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« on: January 11, 2019, 04:49:18 pm »

I keep wondering how in the world does the Queen look so incredible at her age! Other than a life of luxury, nicely established routines, no real stressors and servants at her beck and call. After all, other rich people have that too.
 
I am referring especially to her face. I have never seen such an amazing complexion at the age of 92. This is not fawning - as I could not care less about the Windsors. It's what I see.

At the same time, when she was young - she turned matronly and dowdy very fast. It was probably  because of the style she was sporting, not the physical aspects per se -but still.

In one of her most recent appearances in the car, with that peach coat - she looks breathtaking.
Most women no longer have that fine texture in their complexion by the time they reach 50. Let alone 92.

What are they feeding her? Sun-rays sprinkled with serenity from Planet Paradise?   
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 05:46:38 pm »

^It is amazing.  My mother was the same way.  She drank martinis every day except for the morning she died so I dunno.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 07:38:56 pm »

virgin blood tehe but Yeah on a serious note  that's what good health care gets you eating right, drinking water , moisturize, moisturize, moisturize
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 08:39:20 pm »

I don't think this is all.
Many other rich people have such resources (including great health care and the jazz) and they don't look like this in their 90's.
I think it's one great set of phenomenal genes.

Speaking of which...I recently landed accidentally on a discussion forum which was mostly frequented by people of color.
There was a lot of talk about the terrible Caucasian genes, especially British. How the British age terribly, etc.
Although some of the comments were written in a very mean-spirited way (some call that "reverse racism") ...I think those people were right.
Many Caucasians, especially those of North Western European descent, do seem to age... not so well.
KM is one of them.

And here's the Queen showing all her amazing exception to the rule.
Her and the other Liz (Hurley).       kate-catwalk
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 09:11:22 pm »

She did not overindulge in drink and smoking. Her sister aged dramatically because of her heavy drinking and smoking. The Queen's healthy life keeps her looking well iMO>
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 09:28:08 pm »

^^So true.  Genes play an enormous role.  My mother and grandmother both lived to be near 100.  One drank like a fish, smoked, partied, the other never touched a drop and was a healthy farmer. 

As for me, I don't drink nor smoke and rarely exercise but am in exemplary health *knock, knock*.

It's also stress.  Stress (and sugar intake) kills more than just about any other causal factor.  Been through cancer deaths in a very personal way and each and every specialist I ever talked to said "worry is our biggest enemy and won't add one second to your life." 

So, be lucky, chill out, moderation in all things, use sunscreen and never ever ever jog.  It'll blow your knees or back by your 40s.  Got that tip from an ortho dr.

QE2 is also very active doing what she liked or likes to do, i.e., riding horses, walking, being outdoors.  Best thing to do.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 09:30:21 pm »

The Queen's interest in horses keeps her happy and healthy. She  learned all about bloodlines and pedigrees, she used to travel to Kentucky to see famous thoroughbreds (there is a photo of her with Triple Crown winner Seattle Slew). She looks really animated when she watches races and enjoys riding.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 03:15:37 am »

^^ No jogging?? I suppose it's better than sitting on the couch, no?
Then what form of vigorous exercise should people do?
I know it's off topic but I am curious about what your ortho may have recommended instead. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 11:43:35 am »

^Swimming or water exercises came in at #1 with all drs I’ve worked with.  No discussion, no doubt.  It uses every muscle, hurts nothing and perfect cardio.  Then brisk walking, dancing, and weight bearing exercise followed by jacuzzi time which raises your inner core temp and really raises weight loss plus soothes long muscles.  Any activity you enjoy such as horseback riding or cycling is great. 

But jogging was severely frowned upon and his department is one of the best in the world (Scripps La Jolla).  Not only is jogging bad for your knees and back but it triggers an imbalance in cortisol levels because the fight or flight response is kicked in and the jarring to your skeletal system is immense.  We were built to run from danger only. OTOH, ortho surgeons love it.  They make a killing in tears and repairs.  If you jog regularly and on uneven pavement in your 20s and 30s, they’ll see you in your 40s and beyond with major surgeries or disc issues that are impossible to restore.

The Queen has the perfect regimen of lifestyle and outdoor activities.  Someone to emulate.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 03:40:22 pm »

^Absolutely correct, Yooper.  And yes, sugar is a bigger killer than fats.

My Grandparents both lived to their late 90’s and my Great Grandmother lived one month shy of 100.  All had beautiful skin.  None ran, jogged, smoked, but each had one glass of wine a day.  My Grandmother was pure English rose type and never even went grey, which shocked everyone; she went Swedish blonde.  My Grandfather was half American Indian and Half Indian and he always told me to drink lots of pure water and walk every day.   

The only health issue was my Grandmother had MG, and I, unfortunately inherited it, but both were caught early and treated with thymus gland removal. 

I think it’s all part lifestyle and part genetics. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 06:56:06 pm »

ER has never been a sunworshipper which probably accounts for her skin being so good. Although she's made lits of tours to hot countries she's always worn big brimmed  hats or carried  a parasol.  I think omitting  spf in skincare and too much sunbathing is one reason some Caucasians age so badly.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2019, 06:21:44 pm »

^^^  I read about that perspective before and it looks like it is endorsed by many health professionals.
But then again, I also read the theory of vigorous exercise - ("no pain no gain" type thing) and it sometimes makes me wonder whether I can get any significant results from mere brisk walking, without getting a bit of sweat going. This I can get from jogging.

Oh, well. I doubt the queen ever jogged but I can sure see her taking brisk walks. blink
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 02:49:31 pm »

^A cardiologist told me never jog, just brisk walk as it is sufficient to raise the heart rate.  But personally I love swimming and that’s ok too. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 07:17:19 pm »

Too bad those good genes and habits of hers didn't get passed on to her kids.  tehe
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2019, 10:54:32 am »

Phillip did overindulge and there he is nearly 100. I suppose it is a combination of luck and genes. Also having an easy life with the best doctors around.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 05:36:55 pm »

^I completely agree.

When you have the best doctors available and incredible lifestyle, considering you're not subject to many physicall, straining jobs, and/or extremelly stressful jobs (think of the prime-ministers/presidentes you know, they've all aged incredibly since taking charge), when you have an excellent food (and eat ingredients of supreme quality) and you practice moderate exercise, and don't smoke and drink with moderation, it's no wonder you age incredibly well. Another very important and admirable thing, a woman who knows how to age, I'm not saying we should accept whatever is thrown at us and do nothing to care for ourselves, but I find it admirable to look at ladies such as Queen Elizabeth, Queen Sofia, and Audrey Hepburn, Catherine Deneuve (who has underwent cosmetic procedures but still seems to accept her age better than many of her fellow actresses), Charlotte Rampling, who seem to accept reasonably well their aging and have done so gracefully and look(ed) so beautiful. sigh

Very importantly, food with a high content in saturated fats (coconut oil/sesame oil/palm oil now very fashionable are exemples) and simple sugars when a regular presence in one's diet is terrible, it raises cardiovascular risk! Mediterranean diet is known to be the healthiest, according to WHO, so I'd advise people to follow it.

Also, the sun is skin's worst enemy. We need to be in direct sunlight for 15-30 min a day, no more, no less. We need it to produce melatonin (a key player in the regulation of the circadian rythm , serotonin, vitamin D (as we all know, it's needed to produce the deposit of calcium on our bones). More than the advisable period, it has terrible aging effects on people. I shudder when people get so tanned their skin looks leathery.   Shocked


Swimming is indeed the most complete and advisible exercise one can do! All cardio exercises, like cycling, brisk walking and dancing when practiced without being extrenous, are great as well. Walking extremely fast and/or running/weight lifting/crossfit/high level intensity training, have a severe impact on all the joints, tendons, muscles and nerves. Trauma surgeons (responsible and wise ones at least) advice against it when you're not an athlethe. Even so, I know of many circumstances when they advice sportsmen to take it easy, rest, and do proper physiotherapy and because of the huge amount of Money lost when a player has to stop for a whole season, and what that represents for the sports industry and for the player's career in itself, many sports people turn deaf to their doctors advice.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2019, 06:30:16 pm »

^^ So true. Always a combination. One needs that perfect storm.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2019, 09:56:15 pm »

Love this thread and all your tips & advice!

I could write some more, but many things have been said already...

Just to add though, what I wanted to say when this thread started: British women partly age so terribly because of drink. If you've ever been to the UK you'll likely notice how bloody drunk everyone is all the time. Also in central London (whether you're in the streets or on the tube, and a pub is never further away than a couple of steps no matter where you are!!), people with good jobs, too, when it's drink-o'clock no one seems to drink measured even though it's a work event or drinks with colleagues (incl the boss!) which I've always found very strange. The bingeing on alcohol is out of bounds (men and women) and I think that is likely the greatest factor in why British women seem to have the reputation for ageing so terribly. Add the excess cigarettes to that, and well.. Tanning w/o sunscreen too... And I just enver understood this normalcy of getting so so drunk, I absolutely *despise* it in men, but seeing it in women is almost a smidge worse (and this is coming from someone who's always enjoyed a good drink, but I just never get shyte-faced, seeing my friends absolutely p*ssed out of their mind, vomiting all over the place and their hangovers has always been a very good example and lesson for not ever getting drunk!).

We've all been all over K for how she spent her 20s, but to be fair, that's quite normal for a 20 something Brit... Shocked (and no, not everyone's like that, but a shocking number of people nonetheless. Britain has a serious alcohol issue).

Lizzie has had the best healthcare and all that, she does drink, but basically does everything in moderation: physical activity, drink, food, she never tanned, and she's reputed to take care of her skin (allegedly with Clarins products). She grows her own food, which I bet is grown on good soil and with fewer pesticides than the general population gets, healthy meat (i.e. game, but also reared healthly), likely never ate or very little junk food, and the "junk food" would still be home made, so all the best ingredients... No wonder she looks so good and lived to a good age.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2019, 10:50:14 pm »

Exactly. Especially when we compare her with her sister Margaret who was a sun worshipper and smoked. Although younger than HM, she looked a lot older IMO. I think, though am not sure, that Margaret drank more than HM.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2019, 10:53:16 pm »

What's with this Clarins brand? is it that good? I heard other people talking about it as if it's the Holy Grail.
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