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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2018, 02:24:47 pm »

I think Harry showed sincerity especially on his 18th birthday dedicating himself to charity. He should have gone to University and with tutors I think would have gotten a degree. He was rather neglected during his school years and should have gotten some attention to work on his learning habits.


The real question should be can the queen and Charles reputations be saved because quite a few protocol was broken to allow this marriage, so for their sakes, this has to be an operation and not a legitimate marriage. The public expexts the royals to have boundaries an traditiona and not this insta royal and celebrity crap that Meghan's brought and that Harry's reduced to. Modernization and moving with the times shouldn't mean joining the vapid celebrity crowd who sell their soul and say things to fit the image that their pr firlm laid out for them but basically do nothing.

The problem is prior to harry the royals already got involved with the Hollywood crowd. On birthdays for some senior royals, celebrities (even Joan Rivers) would show up. I think the royals crave being with celebrities. the Hollywood habit should have been curbed ages ago. Once celebrities got through the doors it got hard to turn back.

The marriage is legitimate because the Archbishop married them and can't all of a sudden say no it was a fake marriage and he did not mean it. Credibility among them has to somehow be upheld.

Meghan did not bring this in, the celebrities were already admitted. It also paved the way for royals meeting celebrities and actresses being eligible to be brides.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2018, 02:38:40 pm »

@Sandy you have a point here
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2018, 03:24:14 pm »

What reputation are we talking about?
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2018, 03:57:03 pm »

^ laugh  You took the words out of my mouth.
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2018, 04:17:05 pm »

Bringing murky in has made it a 100 times worse IMO. Who wants that fifth rate tramp in the family.  You only have to check her background to see what she is and where she comes from.  HM should never have allowed her in, it is as simple as that for me.  Trailer trash of the highest order and HM lets her in. Something very wrong somewhere. Dork haza has been shielded from the press, and all escapades he has gotten himself into covered up and media D notices issued, that is why we never got to hear the naughty things he did, the rf covered it all up, as is their usual MO with everything.  He does support charities, but in all honesty he turns up, the rest of it is all done for him.  Meetings with input yes, actually arranging and taking all the stress that comes with it, no.  He goes to Africa, fine, but he loves the country anyway, and any excuse to go there.  For me personally, none of that makes him a good boy.  He lost a lot of street cred when he wore that Nazi uniform, the media must have got that through before the rf had the time to block it.

As said above, reputation, what reputation?  Never had one to start with if the truth was revealed.  Drink, drugs, you name it.  I did read somewhere, a few years ago, he was taken into rehab somewhere in the UK.  Not that the palace every acknowledge that article, bet it was pulled pretty smartish though.

Many on blogs are discussing the marriage to murky. Some are still not convinced re the marriage, I sit on the fence on that front.  I will say I think the whole thing, start to finish was one big disaster.  That was not, in the true sense of the word, a royal wedding, very far from it. Something wrong there somewhere, there is more to all this murky lark than meets the eye.  Sadly for the rf it will come out, too many willing to speak, and the longer the murky debacle continues the more people will spill the beans, look at what has come out so far.  If nothing else lost him his reputation taking up with murky sank him to the sewers.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2018, 05:39:42 pm »

Don't forget, the ever infamous "The Box", that club where some serious perversion was shown on a secret camera. I cannot imagine what Harry got up to behind closed doors at the palace and I am certain that he has done things that would make the Devil blush. Harry was never decent and I am certain that his rep is nonexistent.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2018, 06:01:44 pm »

^Yes!

One has to have a reputation before it can ever be restored.  How can something be restored that never existed to begin with? (Rhetorical Question).

IMHO Murky won’t commit adultery because she won’t let anything stand in the way of her losing her goodies.  But ————— I predict Harry will commit adultery; if he hasn’t already, which I don’t think, but I’m sure he will.  That’s how Harry is.  A male tart.

Murks, arghhh, just common but greedy; so greedy she won’t risk parting of her knees easter-lol
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2018, 06:21:47 pm »

Thanks.

You know, Harry could have really made a huge difference; he could have done volunteer work with the prince's trust during the day and done receptions/banquets in the evenings and partied at night. He could have served in the field, lived on base, and studied his degree online and really LIVED a well rounded life. I am certain that if he had genuinely wanted to be like his untitled peers, he could have learned useful skills and applied them to helping the Prince's Trust and enjoying the ability to bring things to his people that would otherwise have been impossible. He could have spent more time learning business and while he couldn't make his own living that way, he could have done his best to learn and work on getting his people help and otherwise assisting in setting up their own business and helping them thrive and have a way of making a living.

He would have a faultless rep and he would be allowed to indulge in all the vices and perhaps even marry Meg without taking too much of a hit.

Pity he never took that route.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2018, 06:28:20 pm »

Even before he married THOT, his reputation wasn't that bad.  Now? Pfffft.
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2018, 06:51:25 pm »

Well, his rep mainly came from when his mother died prematurely and I do believe that if she were still alive and unable to provide him with the halo of her early death, he would not be well off in terms of PR. His choices are clearly not good and minus the late Princess of Wales, he would in fact end up probably even worse off in the eyes of the press and public.

These days, the DM can write all sorts of good stuff about him and Meg, but the public isn't interested in it and isn't fooled; Harry marrying Meg is the culmination of him spending his twenties being as irresponsible as possible. Meg is in fact the kind of woman who would be willing to put up with him given his choices in life.

He made his reputation in his twenties, with a brief redemption for his military service, where the second tour was largely a PR exercise that had to be cut short.
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2018, 06:23:19 pm »

What little good that was Harry's reputation is now gone, IMO. Squandered. Even if he divorces Murks, I don't think the public will trust him at all. They'll probably wait to see what other narcissistic hag he will foist upon them.

Congrats, Harry. You blew it, and you deserve everything that's coming to you.

I'm not buying the coercion theory in his marriage. If that is the case though, that makes Harry even dumber than I suspected, and I already thought he had an IQ similar to that of a cabbage. He is no hero, but a petulant spoiled tw@t who thinks he can say and do whatever he wants with no consequences.
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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2018, 06:25:18 pm »

I don't think he was pressured into anything; I believe the courtiers and BRF warned him against her, begged him to drop her, and then begged him to cancel the engagement. Instead he selfishly continued on and fancied that he was so powerful and successful that he wouldn't have to listen to anyone. Invictus really went to his head and he ended up making the biggest mess of his life.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2018, 06:42:03 pm »

Harry and Meghan need to work, his ditching her would be a big mistake, IMO. They both need to do serious work and on a regular basis. It is not glitz and glamour it's real dedication.

I am not sure he was advised to "dump" her. For instance,Charles is milking the PR of his escorting her down the aisle for all it's worth.

 I don't think Harry should be "punished" just work at the marriage, both should work on it and do serious work.
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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2018, 06:47:07 pm »

How is he milking it though? 
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2018, 07:23:54 pm »

Harry and Meghan need to work, his ditching her would be a big mistake, IMO. They both need to do serious work and on a regular basis. It is not glitz and glamour it's real dedication.

I am not sure he was advised to "dump" her. For instance,Charles is milking the PR of his escorting her down the aisle for all it's worth.
 I don't think Harry should be "punished" just work at the marriage, both should work on it and do serious work.

Neither want to and that is the problem; the main and most important issue is that neither are qualified for 'serious work' and neither have any skills, or education, or any kind of work history that shows they have established interests and focus. Neither are anything other than ornamental and neither are even useful to their country. At this point, they've lost their chance at building a reputation for hard work.
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« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2018, 07:26:06 pm »

Harry needs to kick Markle to the curb before he can begin to repair his reputation.   And then he might need to take a sabbatical.
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« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2018, 07:43:05 pm »

I don't buy the coercion theory either but I do believe she's a habitual liar and uses the race at every chance she gets. She came about at a very bad time for the royal family and the UK. Wills and Waiy were getting bad press as they were seen as worskshy and remote whilst in public and the UK was being branded racist for wanting to leave the EU and were seen as an ld guard to their colonilsit past. It would've been bad if this trumpt up woman started a race row by saying Harry used her for sex and dumped her because she was black. IMO, Harry may've messed up or not because it's suspect that he just happened to meet a biracial woman at the time the royal family and the UK were being branded out of touch with the changing populace of the UK. It's not ut of the realm to believe that someone placed her in Harry's path so this whole situation can be played out. Charles has benefited because he's being seen as a supportive father and a compassionate man to have stepped in to walk Meghan down the aisle. It's easy now to see that was pr simply because he dad was never invited and Harry's never met him, so there was nointension for him tp be there. Wills has benefitted because the press isn't on his back as uch anymore. Harry can save his reputation if the honest truth comes out about what this wman's about, even if the royal family and the UK government used her to show that they're not racist. Things have been turning in the press to show Meghan as being extremly difficult. In fact, she was seen being rude to the queen on a few occasions by not following protocol.
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« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2018, 09:04:31 pm »

I think Meghan's father was invited, though something happened between Tom and Meghan probably something never to be known. Maybe he got too influenced by Samantha. It all seems to have quieted down now. At least for now.

Meghan just plain has to learn and she needs to get experience and work.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2018, 12:12:58 am »

^ Work at what exactly... showing some class...spending more on clothes....being a better liar.... being a less obvious hypocrite.... and the list goes on...... sigh when that girl at the market commented that there is just something weird about her.... she said it all.
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2018, 12:44:50 am »

Does anyone really believe that the BRF allowed this marriage to take place primarily because Meghan is of mixed race and would, therefore, make them appear more in touch with their subjects? 
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