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« Reply #80 on: September 17, 2018, 01:39:35 am »

This seems to be a tradition of late sending senior royal newlyweds on tours
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« Reply #81 on: September 17, 2018, 04:25:29 am »

They think they can revive the old Charles and Diana/Fergie and Andrew dynamic. I am certain that they do not realize that the 80's and 90's were a kind of magical time and I do believe that neither princes have the 'it' factor their mother had and I am certain that neither princes are able to accept that they are not interesting because of their own selves as inherent personalities, but because of the rapidly decreasing residual magic of their mother and their father's accomplishments. I do believe that at this point in time, the real pressure is to actually make people interested and it's not really succeeding. For all his faults, Charles had an established charitable record via founding the Prince's Trust while Diana was a fresh young ingenue who didn't have anything that had to be hidden or covered up. I believe that added to the mystique.

Regrettably Harry had a chance with Invictus, but Invictus was not something that was too established by the time he married. If Harry had done this in his early twenties, I do believe that he would in fact end up with better PR as his looks fade and I am certain that he would have been on a better track. As for Meg, she has not had a sterling record of professional accomplishments and I do not believe she has led a tidy life and people are disgusted with her lack of self respect.
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« Reply #82 on: September 17, 2018, 10:47:51 am »

Harry did not lead a tidy life himself. I don't get when I read in DM comments how he is presented as "virginal." Far from it. Though in the seventies eighties his dad was considered "manly"  by his inner circle because he had an untidy life (which was not well known by the public.). The women Harry attracted were not sheltered virgins and it was doubtful he would have married one.

Meghan was no Meryl Streep and not an a lister. What she has going for her is that she supported herself with the TV work pre marriage and did not sit back waiting around to get proposed to. I hope she does have an actual work ethic as a royal.

I do think though there is nostalgia and for some Harry being "Diana's son" gives him an audience. But he and his brother wasted their twenties and could have done so much more.
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« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2018, 05:05:55 am »

This article was published on Aug 16, 2018. I sets the tne for when the tour's cancelled and only Harry goes to IG. Why send this mess of a circus as representatives of the UK and the royal family, it's an embarrassing situation that's being played out in the UK as displayd by the pr crap in Sussex yesterday.
Why Meghan Markle May Pull Out of Australian Royal Tour
Not only does the Duchess have her new royal responsibilities to contend with, the pressure from her estranged family members speaking with the press continues to mount - and according to royal insiders, it’s all becoming too much for the former Suits actress to handle.
Plans have reportedly been put in place to ease Meghan back from public appearances for a while to try and reduce the hysteria and help her to deal with the stress – and try and put a stop to the family drama once and for all.
One upcoming event that is in serious doubt is the royal tour of Australia and New Zealand with Prince Harry for the Invictus Games.
“Meghan may not even attend the games at all or visit Australia," a Kensington Palace source tells New Idea. "There is serious talk about that and contingency plans have now been put in place.”
“And the duke and duchess’ arrival date keeps moving closer and closer to the day of the opening ceremony, which is sending panic signals to the Invictus organisers here.”
33-year-old Harry is reportedly growing increasingly concerned over the hysteria surrounding his new wife, and the pair has reportedly been spending most of their time at a country home in the Cotswolds.  tehe
“Harry didn’t used to care that much about what was written, he just said it was a load of shite, but he’s very protective of Meghan and defensive these days,” a source told Vanity Fair’s royal correspondent Katie Nicholl.
“He worries there is too much hysteria around Meghan and he wants to row back a bit.”
There has been no official word from the Palace on any changes to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal tour.
https://www.instylemag.com.au/meghan-markle-australian-tour-might-cancel
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« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2018, 05:15:28 am »

If they cancel the tour, then that means all that planning will have been a waste of time for those who made the arrangements and worked with security. So despite all that Harry will throw all that work and planning away with both hands. Bluntly put, royals should be the ones working on these tour arrangements and see how easily they upend all the plans they make. I really am surprised the courtiers haven't revolted and walked off en masse.

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33-year-old Harry is reportedly growing increasingly concerned over the hysteria surrounding his new wife, and the pair has reportedly been spending most of their time at a country home in the Cotswolds.  tehe
“Harry didn’t used to care that much about what was written, he just said it was a load of shite, but he’s very protective of Meghan and defensive these days,” a source told Vanity Fair’s royal correspondent Katie Nicholl.
“He worries there is too much hysteria around Meghan and he wants to row back a bit.”

There isn't any hysteria at all; no one actually cares and the majority of the press has gone towards the economic issues and the recent political dramas.
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« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2018, 05:22:23 am »

I'm not surprised there's been no announcement of cancellation. The tour has been arranged for months. Royals don't drop out of tours short of death, usually!  And this article is not only from August but Lifestyle, a magazine that wouldn't know the truth if it dropped on the journalists there from a great height! Plus, it's original source was the Australian magazine New Idea, which specialises in announcing the pregnancies several times a year of Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Kidman. When it's not picturing the immediate Coronation of Queen Mary of Denmark, that is!
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« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2018, 05:48:16 am »

Royal tours have been cancelled before. IMO, a tour involving these two will be a waste of time disaster with the Austrailians wanting a republic. No one will benefit excet Meghan with her merchandising con and seeing her mug in the press everyday. Harry will look like a complete loser for being with this manic, dominant woman who acts like the blood born royal leading the way.  bored3
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/913016/Kate-Middleton-Prince-William-royal-tour-why-cancel-Sweden-tour-Norway-snow
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/2651553/Prince-Andrew-cancels-royal-visit-to-Thailand.html

I believe that cancelation plans should be part of the planning of the tours.

This is a passage about Wills trip to Israel, but it applies to Harry also. The UK and the royal family's in trouble if they're relying on the younger royals to do anything to bolster relationships with the world. Harry pre Meghan was doing well, but that's out the door now.
First Royal Visit to Israel Is Sign of Britain’s Diminished Status in the World
For a start, the United Kingdom – on what seems an irreversible course to leave the European Union following its Brexit vote – is trying to carve out a new niche for itself in international diplomacy.
With diminished clout on the world stage, it must utilize whatever assets it has. And the one unique thing Britain has is a young generation of royals who are instantly recognizable across the globe.
If the price the British government has to pay for gaining some goodwill in the Trump White House is giving Netanyahu the PR coup of being the first Israeli prime minister to host a 35-year-old unemployed helicopter pilot living off generous state benefits, then so be it.  eating cookies  ouch.  tehe
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/first-royal-visit-to-israel-shows-britain-s-diminished-status-in-world-1.5866326
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« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2018, 06:15:11 am »

We will see whether Aussies want a republic when and if the next one is called. The last one was held in the 1990s and was soundly defeated, in all States and Territories and overall. There's been no call for a referndum from the Aus public.

And if the royals were so outstandingly unpopular in Australia the TV channels here wouldn't have been so delighted by millions watching the Sussexes May wedding. It was excellent ratings results that swung Channel 7 here into showing Eugenie's wedding.

Harry is popular here. His larrikin style appeals to many Australians. And it was the Australian and State Governments who invited him and his wife. Even the Victorian premier invited the Sussexes to come to Melbourne, something that hasn't happened for a while with other royals.
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« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2018, 07:20:47 am »

^ I don't  want to go overly political but I think that Brexit happened because of the patriotism of many and the belief in the once mighty empire where the sun never sets. These times are long gone, imo. Merkel, from what I read, is not giving an inch to Theresa May . ^^It's a very nice article. Parading the royals around ex-colonies in hope to be important in the world is a very nice place to start. The real question is - when the rubber meets the road, will Australia and Canada be loyal to the queen or go with wherever their interests are.
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« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2018, 07:48:59 am »

But Britain is an important trading and financial centre. Decades before Brexit Britain operated an Empire Preference market for goods going to Britain from the old Empire. Brexit doesn't really impact on places like Australia because trade with EU countries isn't vital to this country's prosperity.

China is a huge trading partner here in Australia. Yet we don't have a Chinese head of state! If anything a Britain outside Brexit will be good news for our primary produce markets. They were pretty well flattened when Britain went into the EU in the 1960s, actually. Our fruit, beef, butter markets suffered considerably as a result of Britain's decision to join the EU then.

 However, the Queen remained our Head of State just as she is today, and Royal visits continued. I'm not a Canadian but I would suggest the same thing happened to Canada as a result of Britain's EU entry. Markets suffered. Again, the EUs loss into British markets may well be Canada's gain.

  I would guess that Canada's major trading partner is the US, but President Trump isn't Head of State in Canada. The Queen is, and was. And Royal visits continue to Canada, as well as other parts of the Commonwealth. (Canada hasn't been a colony for well over a hundred years. Neither has Australia.) 
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« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2018, 08:07:12 am »

We're getting on the same page here. Australia, like most of the countries in East Asia are with China. Russia and China are together, economically and if need be military. With EU cuffing UK and it's demands which by the way is the same for all European countries which are not part of EU, UK needs to show some power, some influence on the world stage so that they don't look like fools for feeling better than the EU at a time where all countries are looking for alliances and common markets or markets with preferential terms for domestic products with other countries. UK cutting itself from EU is, imo, desperate to be important.

That's why UK was with US for the ridiculous air strikes last year. That's why the royals are more visible with international tours, trying to court alliances. Apart from PR spin cycles - I don't see it happening. Maybe some millennials can be brainwashed into the mighty British empire and will go visit the magical land of Harry Potter (much better sale for visiting UK than the royals) but other than that I don't see it. Sorry. 200 years ago the power was in the ships and having the pirates loyal to the king or queen but now it's a whole new ball game. Not even nuclear power or submarines are cutting it now. Now it's satelites (US, Russia) and infrastructure (China) ... still to some extent oil (US, Latin America, arab countries) which is a pretty messy business. But, but UK doesn't have the bandwidth to be influential.

Going back to topic. H & M visiting Australia is important for UK. They are not going there to play wannabe celeb and look at me - I'm wearing $10K of ugly clothes. They are there to be liked so much that the countries stand by QE. That said - I expect it to be an epic fail. My personal opinion.
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« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2018, 08:16:18 am »

Well, Britons, ordinary Britons, voted by quite a percentage to leave the EU, for various reasons. (If I had been living in Britain I think I would have voted to 'remain' for ease of travel and work.However, that is not the way it works. In a democracy what citizens want they get.)  I'm not so sure that Russian and China are so together on a lot of things any more. And I think you discount too much the ties of blood, history and sentiment between Britain, the realms (Aus, NZ, Canada etc) and the Queen. Anyway, this is way off topic, so I'll shut up!
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« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2018, 05:31:52 pm »

The shyte show continues down under.  thumbsdown bignono bored3
https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/1047859116625018880
https://www.royal.uk/duke-and-duchess-sussexs-visit-australia-fiji-tonga-and-new-zealand

It's really gone bad when a chic from Soho House can be called a Duchess and is going to represent the UK and the royal family overseas. People have been comenting about Harry looking high or dopped up n meds during the trip to Sussex, so I expect more of the same during this ill fated trip. She's deffinetly getting help from the royal family an the UK/US governmment if she does indeed go on this trip instead of having tax and visa issues, so it'll be another lie told to the UK people as they carry on bolstering up a h*.  bored3   Over 76 engagements during this tour? Really?  dontknow Shocked  Will Meghan have 76 new outfits?  bored3
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« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2018, 06:29:52 pm »

Sorry for the double post, but it continues on from my previous one.

Details of Harry and Meghan's royal tour REVEALED: Couple will meet koalas, take part in a 'welly-wanging' contest and recreate the Queen and Prince Philip's 1953 welcome to Fiji
The itinerary for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's upcoming royal tour has been revealed.
The couple will depart London on 15 October and will spend 16 days carrying out a packed schedule of engagements in Australia, Fiji, Tonga and New Zealand.
A major focus of the tour is the Invictus Games Sydney 2018, the Paralympics-style sports event Prince Harry spearheads for wounded, sick and injured service personnel.
The couple will also visit projects championing youth leadership and environmental and conservation efforts.
Among the highlights will be a visit to the world-renowned Taronga Zoo, in Sydney, where they will meet two koalas and their joeys. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited the zoo with Prince George during their royal tour in 2014.
Elsewhere the couple will visit Australian farmers struck by drought, meet the King of Tonga and will join a group of children in a 'welly-wanging' contest in Auckland.
On their arrival in Fiji they will be treated to a traditional welcome that will mirror the one received by the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh on their own royal tour in 1953.  huh Why?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6240465/Details-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-royal-tour-Australia-New-Zealand-REVEALED.html
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Sarah, New York City, United States, about a minute ago
This will be a spectacle of epic proportions, chalk-full of gaffs, tacky fawning and manic giggling. One day we will read about it, the behind the scenes truth and scandals of what is truly going on. Though we can all guess...In the mean time we'll be treated to it in real time. The conned man-child Prince and his social-climbing, bourgeoise, scheming wife. The truth is stranger than fiction.

Alonzo Quijana, Miami Beach, United States, 2 minutes ago
Aside from the games, what exactly is the PURPOSE of the trip? Are they promoting British goods? Like British fashion or tourism?

rainyday10, UK, United Kingdom, moments ago
Hazza would be better off helping former soldiers who are sleeping rough on the street and forgotten about then jetting off around the world at the taxpayers expense.

Sparkly Gal, Old London Town, United Kingdom, 7 minutes ago
Whilst everyday folk work till they are almost 70 just to get by. Ginger and the stripper continue to mug us off.

Rach777, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 10 minutes ago
MM should not be representing the Royals or the UK... what an insult..

matilda2018, Sussex, United Kingdom, 8 minutes ago
I wonder how many thousands her clothes will cost

serena shaw, Swindon, United Kingdom, 5 minutes ago
Hundreds of thousands.... and not even British fashion.

JosieJones, Middle England, United Kingdom, 17 minutes ago
This woman does NOT and never will represent me.Her and her husband¿s antics in Sussex yesterday were disgraceful.They are fit for nothing and both look as if they need rehab.  thumbsup eating cookies

paul, dublin, Ireland, 24 minutes ago
Markles, the middle aged z list actress won a veritable lottery, an endless holiday where people treat her and her husband with respect and even veneration, for what exactly?  thumbsup

Jacob Be Good, London, United Kingdom, 33 minutes ago
Interesting that you make this a top story... and not that it has been OFFICIALLY confirmed that they spent £32 MILLION OF OUR TAXES on their wedding. Think about what £32 million could have done for our hospitals, schools and police. Instead, it was wasted on an American showgirl who has NEVER paid taxes in this country and her second (third?) shot at marriage.  thumbsup eating cookies eating cookies

serena shaw, Swindon, United Kingdom, 10 minutes ago
Third, I believe. I support the monarchy, but not these two superficial people.
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« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2018, 07:24:45 pm »

I suppose all this info means they will be going. There goes my theory of a last minute cancellation.
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« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2018, 08:06:04 pm »

I doubt they would have canceled unless a pregnancy announcement came along and there would be the risk of Zika virus.
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« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2018, 08:08:27 pm »

According to Mio Scobie, Meghan's mouthpiece, this is the staff that'll be going with them.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/d5705470dff6b5635133ddd19fa06687/tumblr_pg34ddV7tm1ud2swf_540.jpg

^^this trip seems to be a waste of time and the Austrailians and the other countries that they'll be visiting will be required to pay for part of it. I see no point in it except Harry attending the IG.
People are wondering if she'll bail out of it as it'll be too much work and she hsn't had time to line up her merchandising gigs.  The IRS and immigration department should now step in and get this trash back to America where she belongs. I can't imagine the countries involved being happy to pay for these two to visit them and to have to bow and scrap to a slapper like Meghan.  bignono
^they're not doing anything of signifigance that it can't be cancelled though.
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« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2018, 08:10:14 pm »

BTW the dates are incorrect on this forum, the tour is from Oct 16th to 31st!

I say that by the end of the tour, her wardrobe will cost 2 million!  Shocked

I will take one for the team and post what they are doing each day which is more concise than the article, unless someone beats me to it.  easter-wink

I noticed that while reading that Megs is giving a speech on Oct 24th and 27th, ugh.
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« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2018, 10:01:53 pm »

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« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2018, 10:31:57 pm »

Sorry, timed out.

I guess the guy who’s married to Waity’s stylist.
The Australian press will not be silenced or controlled or social media, so it makes no sense to try and control the narrative. This tour will be a disaster as well as the IG like it was for Toronto.

https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178738689338/aus-tour-diary

https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178738404303/are-you-ready-for-this

Waity didn’t and doesn’t shine. I *despise* the building up of Waity on the back of the Soho escort.  bored3
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178738863998/this-tour-is-never-going-to-end-i-feel-like-this
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