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« on: February 13, 2018, 07:13:17 pm »

Commonwealth is in secret talks to decide whether Prince Charles should take over when Queen, 92, dies
-Commonwealth not hereditary and unclear who will take over when Queen dies
-Set up a 'high level group' of top figures to discuss 'governance considerations'
-Queen wants Prince Charles to take over but fears this will not seem democratic
By Rory Tingle For Mailonline and Dan O'donoghue

PUBLISHED: 09:18 GMT, 13 February 2018 | UPDATED: 17:11 GMT, 13 February 2018



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5384999/Commonwealth-secret-talks-decide-successor-Queen.html#ixzz5717xTOXB
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 07:17:18 pm »

Charles would have to be dragged away kicking and screaming if there is any chance of his being passed over.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 08:17:29 pm »

This is hardly 'news'.

The Aussie PM, Julia Gillard, made a statement in 2013 that Charles was the right person to succeed and she was then, and still is, an ardent republican. I doubt that she would have made such a comment to the Australian Parliament without some sort of discussion with other Commonwealth leaders at the time.

I also note that this story has now been denied anyway http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/succession-of-head-of-commonwealth-role-not-part-of-groups-mandate-11364250231280?s_cid=con_cic_aff_affwin_vidAJM_broadband&vendorid=AJM&utm_source=Affwin&utm_medium=Ref&utm_campaign=Affiliate_78888&awc=3041_1518552905_c26c05c01476995bdbe4ffbd19d37147

The Commonwealth Secretariat has denied that a high level group of Commonwealth officials has met in London to consider who might succeed the Queen as its head.
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 03:41:31 am »

They should do themselves a favor and get rid of him, but this is a surprise that he could be replaced. I didn't know he could be. But this shows you that there are forces at work that are trying to minimize Charles and the clutches that the Monarchy holds over people. I predict Wills will be the last monarch.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 04:46:03 am »

The Queen succeeded her father as head of the Commonweath (there were parts of course that were still colonies then,) but to the leaders as to everyone else she has seemed immortal, I guess. It's only in the last few years that the question of who is to succeed her has come up. There is no elective process in place to choose a new Commonwealth Head. There are no formal talks going on, in spite of what the article said.

There may well be some discussion at the London CHOGM that is coming up in London, though IMHO I'd say that Charles will get the role when the Queen hands it on or dies. The Queen is completely neutral as Head. There would be some jealousy and infighting if a person from one of the 54 nations got the gig, especially if it was an ex politician.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2018, 01:51:51 pm »

They should do themselves a favor and get rid of him, but this is a surprise that he could be replaced. I didn't know he could be. But this shows you that there are forces at work that are trying to minimize Charles and the clutches that the Monarchy holds over people. I predict Wills will be the last monarch.
charles will destroy the monarchy... and william will be a fullfilled and happy man when that finally happens
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 09:54:31 am »

dianb how can you can make that statement?

Charles is heir to the throne and all the Commonwealth nations will respect that.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 11:20:03 pm »

Charles should be given Harry's job and the idea of attracting young members shouldn't be the point. This should be about dignity and respect.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 12:50:40 pm »

^i think this new harry's job shows that the queen is feeling threatened re:monarchy's future
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 04:14:53 pm »

^And so she should be worried.  Look at the untold damage bill medd and murky haza have done to the monarchy with the tarts they have in two, couldn´t pick two more unsuitable to the rf.  They have taken the rf into the gutter.  In most ways I think HM deserves it, she has allowed all this to happen.  Instead of guiding the two dorks she allowed them a free hand.  Bill medd should have been offered marriage to council cath or removal from line of successsion and no public funding.  She should also not have let the bill medd/council cath charade to continue over the last 5 years. As for murky haza and murky murkel, that should have been headed off at the pass at the very beginning.  I don´t care about her colouring, I care about the type of person she is, the lies, the ways she flaunts her "wares", the whole kit and kaboodle.  Again, HM ignored it all, when she should have said if you want to marry her then you step down from line of succession and lose taxpayer funding.  If Acts of Parliament are required for any of the above we all know HM can get them passed secretly.  She, and she alone, chose to ignore all signs, burying her head in the sand, deeply, hoping it would all magically disappear, instead it got so many times worse it is as epic proportions.  If she is running scared then she needs to blame herself, nobody else.   If she is suffeirng senile dementia, which I very much doubt, then she should have been removed from decision making.  Why should chucky be bothered if he does not get the Commonwealth position, it is not a God given right, and he most certainly has not earned it.   It is not heriditary.  Look out when HM passes on, I think many are just maintaing the act of paying homage to her, and respecting her, because of her long reign, but many can now see, in this day and age, just how weak she is and how dysfunctional the windsors are, not a normal one amongst them these days it would appear, with HM, daft old bat, letting more and more oddities in through the front door.  Let the Commonweath choose whoever they want, it really is nothing to do with HM. And how long will chucky be around, he is an old man now, they need someone younger, more enthusiastic and more energy for it all.  Nope, HM has herself to blame for the train wreck she calls the windsors, weak as last weeks dishwater she is.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2018, 02:16:24 am »

The Queen had her head in the sand for years. She does not have dementia this is how she always behaved. She stuck her head in the sand when courtiers complained about CHarles sleeping with married Camilla. ANd waited until things get out of control to do anything. She could have gotten the ball rolling by telling Charles he'd have to choose between Camilla and the throne. She also somehow should have sent him off someplace to get out of the influence of mentors like Van Der Post and Mountbatten. But it is not only the Queen, she did not exactly force Charles to go in for his bad behavior he did this all by himself, starting a chain of events that helped the Windsors on a downhill path.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 04:59:44 am »

I don't think the Queen cares. I believe it was the Queen mother who kept people in line. She didn't care about affairs (gave Charles some strange sense of 'entitlement' for being heir), but I don't think she would have allowed Charles to marry his mistress. After the QM passed away, it was anything goes.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2018, 12:36:39 pm »

 If she is suffeirng senile dementia, which I very much doubt, then she should have been removed from decision making.

If she is suffeirng senile dementia, it must have started in early 1990s when she send Charles and Diana to N Korea - after that book and their india mess trip and other tours of them looking miserable together. It's just who she's been and will always be - a remote and completely out of touch woman.

The Queen had her head in the sand for years. She does not have dementia this is how she always behaved. She stuck her head in the sand when courtiers complained about CHarles sleeping with married Camilla.
with due respect but i dont know why you thinks that queen would care her single son is sleeping with a married woman. even if he was married it's not a weird thing to her/them (royal/aristo people). in her view, diana overreacting because of charles's behavior that was a weird thing.  diana was a type different in that circle, she really had a commoner view of life, becasue that she got involved in Aids cause et al... telling after that arragement with charles, she just fell for commoners men.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2018, 01:26:00 pm »

She can be anything she wants, what she is not, in my personal opinion, is utterly useless and weak with her family and the sewage they are now bringing in to the family.  She has whatever is necessary at her disposal to sort things out, and what does she do, allow more and more trailer trash into the family.   Had he taken a firm hand years ago with her dysfunctional family things might better, but right now she is helping the monarchy to fall, because what is marrying in to that family is utter and useless trash IMO.  If she has not got senile dementia then she really is 200% to blame for the British rf in the gutter these days, she and she alone has allowed it to happen.  She coul dhave given the two dorks the offer of marriage to the tarts or told to step down, but no, daft old bat does nothing, might not like it, but does zilch to stop it.  Does she really think the British taxpayer want to fund murky and her trailer trash family, because that is what will happen, as it has with the meddledooms, they have ridden on the rf coat tails for years now, and the costs the taxpayer money.  Nope, this debacle has been allowed to happen because she allowed it to happen, too weak to stand up and take matters in hand.  if, and hopefully when, the royal family are no more then the main blame lies with HM.  Wait until she passes on, many who have kept their mouths closed will open up, and I for one will be delighted for all their lies and shenanigans to make headlines, pity they won´t do it now, their exposure for the lying, greedy family they are is long overdue. Chucky has not earned this position HM wants for him, why should he be foisted on them, whether they want him or not.  Let them vote for their own Head of Commonweatlh, give someone else a chance, someone up to the job, chucky is too busy talking to his plants and bemonaing the fact that he is still not king, added to which he is well past retirement age, and in recent years does not look very well most of the time.
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2018, 02:28:01 pm »

 If she is suffeirng senile dementia, which I very much doubt, then she should have been removed from decision making.

If she is suffeirng senile dementia, it must have started in early 1990s when she send Charles and Diana to N Korea - after that book and their india mess trip and other tours of them looking miserable together. It's just who she's been and will always be - a remote and completely out of touch woman.

The Queen had her head in the sand for years. She does not have dementia this is how she always behaved. She stuck her head in the sand when courtiers complained about CHarles sleeping with married Camilla.
with due respect but i dont know why you thinks that queen would care her single son is sleeping with a married woman. even if he was married it's not a weird thing to her/them (royal/aristo people). in her view, diana overreacting because of charles's behavior that was a weird thing.  diana was a type different in that circle, she really had a commoner view of life, becasue that she got involved in Aids cause et al... telling after that arragement with charles, she just fell for commoners men.

She not only didn't care, she even allowed Charles to have Camilla as his "official escort" to Zimbabwe ca. 1980. A courtier caught them making out and she and Charles caused much embarrassment.  And the courtier in his complaint specified that Charles was committing a military offense (well not to him apparently) in sleeping with a brother officer's wife.
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