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« Reply #180 on: July 23, 2018, 02:59:41 pm »

Bea should inherit her father's title and Anne should have had a titlr liker her brothers...
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« Reply #181 on: July 23, 2018, 03:12:26 pm »

^ Agreed. The only problem is, the toffs in parliament would rather drop dead than to give their daughters the same rights as their sons. What do you expect from a society that still gives special treatment to people with titles? Some restaurants still seat the daughters of dukes and other "nobles" in another area than the rest of the common folk!! It's still nuts in Britain. If you want to time travel, just book a holiday to the UK. sigh
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« Reply #182 on: July 23, 2018, 03:30:07 pm »

^Are you serious?? That's bananas!
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« Reply #183 on: July 23, 2018, 03:41:50 pm »

^ Yeah, I am. There's also some members club and they only admit people with "pedigree". You can be a gazillionaire, if you don't have the "breeding", you're not getting in. The segregation at the restaurant is really barf inducing. Other countries that are still monarchies (and some also still have "nobles") aren't like this at all, eg the Swedes and the Dutch have a strong sense and value of "everyone is equal", in the UK it is not so. There's a lot of 18th century style snobbery in the UK, it's quite rampant. People also climbing the career ladder who are less qualified than many others who are more intelligent, apt & qualified but unfortunately the lack of "breeding" holds you back (nepotism has a whole new shade in the UK). It's surreal, but it's true unfortunately.

PS In the UK the class system is everything. Everyone is labelled as their particular class and they never let you forget it. No matter how rich you are, you'll still be (condescendingly called) working class if that's your roots, and never have I encountered anywhere else sayings like "don't get above your station" or "know your station" and be dead serious, meaning don't even think you're in a different class now and don't behave or pretend like you are. It's crazy.

eg the Midds, Carole is actually forever working class, Mike & the kids middle class (and Kate will technically & in reality never be anything else but middle class in spite of her marriage and lifestyle and title) and only the sprogs are really "upper class".
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« Reply #184 on: July 23, 2018, 05:31:36 pm »

^ thank you. There were parts I didnt know.

Also the Beckhams... they are self made but they are always told they are inferior to old money people.

Though we are off topic here...
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« Reply #185 on: July 23, 2018, 08:01:17 pm »

^ Yep, I thought of the Becks but didn't want to bring them up (I think I do that too often!). They live an upper class lifestyle, have the friends, can acc to UK standards never be upper class because of the lack of title but should therefore be deeply entrenched as middle class. But nope! They're working class and when people don't like sth about them, they constantly bring it up (I don't like them either, but I don't see them as working class, far from it). The kids are now "middle class" though, because the parents were born working class, but the kids were born middle class easter-no What a system! In that sense, "social climbing" is technically impossible.

This can be easily brought back on topic!  easter-wink : Andy must be fuming that his line, or at least a part of it is now becoming middle class!!! ick

Oh and I just had a thought! There's that pic of Eug in a red dress, a Vivienne Westwood, Eug looks absolutely smashing in that dress, Westwood might be the one as wedding dress designer? I'm sure she'd design sth that would knock everyone off their socks!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/35/30/2a35307c1aa5407f00363094535546ac.jpg

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qVlxuk6bdEQ/Tb1zZqiJksI/AAAAAAAAADQ/LmiA2MZdDVA/s1600/tatler_princess_eugenie_04.jpg
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« Reply #186 on: July 23, 2018, 10:44:58 pm »

They're a lovely couple. But why IS Princess Eugenie having such a preposterously lavish wedding? JAN MOIR on the lowly royal given a wedding just like Harry and Meghan whose hunger for glitz and glamour is every bit as monstrous as Mother
Princess, 28, and her 32-year-old fiance Jack Brooksbank will marry in October
Wedding will be held at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, just like Harry and Meghan
It will be open to the public and they'll also have a carriage ride through Windsor after the ceremony

Eugenie who? She’s doing what? How many tickets? Are you having a laugh? A flock of eyebrows were raised when Princess Eugenie’s grandiose wedding plans were announced last week.

Despite being ninth in line to the throne and about as constitutionally important as one of the Queen’s corgis, the 28-year old princess clearly has her heart set on a full-throttle, trumpet- tootling extravaganza, complete with all the royal trimmings.

Instead of shuffling off to tie the knot discreetly in parts unknown — as perhaps befits her relatively lowly royal status — the princess and her 32-year-old fiance Jack Brooksbank will marry on October 12 in St George’s Chapel, Windsor.

And it is not just the location that has embarrassing echoes of the recent nuptials of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5983989/Who-hell-does-Princess-Eugenie-think-JAN-MOIR-royal-copying-Harry-Meghan-wedding.html


Princess Eugenie’s wedding budget revealed - the amount may surprise you

PRINCESS EUGENIE is getting married in the same location as Meghan Markle, 36, and Prince Harry, 33. With a procession now announced and 1,200 members of the public invited, how much will it cost?
Princess Eugenie, 28, is marrying her long-term partner Jack Brooksbank on 12th October.

Being ninth-in-line to the throne and the daughter of Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson, both 58, Eugenie’s wedding is expected to be a lavish affair.

The two are getting married at St George’s Chapel, the same location as Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.

In another move made by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the couple is also inviting 1,200 members of the public to watch their nuptials.

It has also been announced that Eugenie and Jack will embark on a carriage procession around the town of Windsor, an unusual move by a non-working such as Eugenie.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/993123/princess-eugenie-wedding-cost-meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding

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« Reply #187 on: July 23, 2018, 10:58:59 pm »

Who the hell does Princess Eugenie think she is? JAN MOIR on the lowly royal given a wedding just like Harry and Meghan whose hunger for glitz and glamour is every bit as monstrous as Mother Fergie's
Eugenie who? She’s doing what? How many tickets? Are you having a laugh? A flock of eyebrows were raised when Princess Eugenie’s grandiose wedding plans
Despite being ninth in line to the throne and about as constitutionally important as one of the Queen’s corgis, the 28-year old princess clearly has her heart set on a full-throttle, trumpet- tootling extravaganza, complete with all the royal trimmings.
Instead of shuffling off to tie the knot discreetly in parts unknown — as perhaps befits her relatively lowly royal status — the princess and her 32-year-old fiance Jack Brooksbank will marry on October 12 in St George’s Chapel, Windsor.
And it is not just the location that has embarrassing echoes of the recent nuptials of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
Just like Harry and Meghan, Eugenie and Jack will also have a carriage ride through Windsor after the ceremony.
And just like Harry and Meghan, they have invited members of the public and representatives of their favourite charities inside the grounds of Windsor Castle to goggle appreciatively at all the royal swells. These lucky ‘golden ticket’ holders will have the best views of the bride and groom and all their celebrity pals, whether they like it or not.
This announcement was made by Buckingham Palace, who decreed that the couple were ‘delighted to announce an opportunity for 1,200 people from across the UK to share the experience of their special day’.
That number will include members of the Windsor community, residents of the castle and some royal household staff, along with children from the local schools.
On her Instagram account, the princess herself wrote that: ‘Jack and I are excited to be able to invite people to watch our wedding inside the Precinct of Windsor Castle.’
Very magnanimous of her, I’m sure. However, it does beg the question — who the hell does Princess Eugenie think she is?
She’s not exactly a huge star within the Royal Family firmament, and over the years she has done absolutely nothing to distinguish herself or to encourage public affection. Indeed, she is most famous for her ridiculous fashion faux pas, including an irrational fondness for wearing teapot-shaped skirts, a trait that is hardly likely to get them out cheering on the streets of Berkshire.
Her husband-to-be seems a lovely bloke, but is unknown to the great unwashed. Brooksbank is a former bar manager, whose great-grandfather was an equerry to Queen Mary. He may be a commoner — and he will not take a title after the wedding — but his distinguished family have pots of money. He now works as a tequila brand ambassador for George Clooney’s Casamigos company, the kind of glamorous, untaxing job that only posh boys can land.
Meanwhile, like her big sister Princess Beatrice, Eugenie is considered by Buckingham Palace to be a private individual; her name does not appear in the court circular and she gets no income from the Privy Purse.
In this vein, her parents the Duke and Duchess of York have always scrupulously maintained the conceit that their daughters are just another pair of typically modern, independent women, making their own way in the world with no special privileges attached.
Of course, no one outside the Yorks inner circle has ever been fooled by that. If the girls really want to be ordinary, why don’t they follow the example of the Queen’s adored niece, Lady Sarah Chatto? For years she has quietly just got on with her own life, living in her own house and doing her own job, without any palace-decreed fanfare.
In comparison, Eugenie’s upcoming wedding plans strip away that we’re-so-normal facade even further, revealing a hunger for glitz and royal glamour that is every bit as monstrous as Mother Fergie’s. The wedding even has some elements that make it seem like a state occasion, a turn of events which certainly feeds into the senior Yorks’ endless delusions of grandeur.
Princess Eugenie is not even the second royal after Harry to have a big wedding like this at St George’s. The Duke and Duchess of Wessex did it first, back in 1999. However, Prince Edward was fifth in line to the throne at the time, and there was still a huge amount of interest in him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5983989/Who-hell-does-Princess-Eugenie-think-JAN-MOIR-royal-copying-Harry-Meghan-wedding.html
It’s a very long article. This is nuts. If anything, Harry’s the one who should’be taken his tacky divorced z-list actress to the side and had a quiet wedding not Eugenie who’s actually a first time bride blood royal who deserves to enjoy the perks on her wedding day.
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« Reply #188 on: July 23, 2018, 11:56:56 pm »

These writers don't realize that royal weddings don't come cheap. And they should leave Eugenie alone and talk about her wedding without bringing Meghan into it. Let Eugenie have her big wedding with Jack.
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« Reply #189 on: July 24, 2018, 02:41:47 am »

If Jack was given a title, would it be easier to give him a vacant title or to create a brand new title?
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« Reply #190 on: July 24, 2018, 07:25:46 am »

Why should the divorced American get a big second wedding but the blood princess can't have a big first wedding?
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« Reply #191 on: July 24, 2018, 08:38:19 am »

^That's my question as well. I'm glad people aren't letting her get away with this article.
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« Reply #192 on: July 24, 2018, 03:20:39 pm »

^^I know!  She's the Queen's granddaughter so, regardless of status in line, is absolutely entitled to an equal, or better, wedding because this is, as stated, both of the parties' first wedding.  Ridiculous article.
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« Reply #193 on: July 24, 2018, 05:52:34 pm »

IMHO Eugenie is entitled to an equal or bigger wedding than Turkey had.  loveshower This is Eugenie's first wedding; not her second or third.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #194 on: July 24, 2018, 06:03:40 pm »

Eugenie will have a magnificent wedding. She's a great girl. I am sick of everyone making over the two low rent *sleeze*$ The Potato Head and Me Again. Total Lying Spin about both. Ugh and Sick to the Heinous Pair.
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« Reply #195 on: July 24, 2018, 06:18:10 pm »

I can understand why people complain. Eugenie is a princess but she does not work for the RF. So she is getting perks without duty. Also it is not like the best moment in the UK to have two big weddings. Is it really clear who is paying for everthing.

Imo she should have a smallish wedding for PR purposes. Neither Andrew or Fergie are well liked. She is not from the main line... if it is too ostentatious she will get backlash if only to make the main line look better which is just starting.
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« Reply #196 on: July 24, 2018, 07:02:55 pm »

^ Well said.

Though I also I agree very much that it is both their 1st wedding and not like someone else their 2nd or 3rd..

Looks very bad though due to taxpayer cost.

I think it may have boiled down to title vs bigger wedding.... dontknow
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« Reply #197 on: July 24, 2018, 07:22:40 pm »

HM is her grandmother, andy allegedly her favourite son.  Have a wedding like this if she wants to, but let her father and grandmother foot the bill, and foot the bill for the security as well.  If they want her to have this kind of wedding fine, but pay for it all.  As said, she is not a working royal, she just happens to have HM as her grandmother.  Let´s face it, HM has billions in reserve, let her foot the bill, in total including security, herself.  It will not affect her wealth one bit, a mere tiny pebble in the ocean.  Let her have her wedding, just don´t look at the taxpayer for the financial cost.  Done one wedding debacle at an astronomic cost they year, why should we fund a second one.  I also feel that it matters not which slot the grandchildren are in line to the throne, they are all the grandchildren of HM and should be treated equally.  That article from Jan Moir was vicious and nasty, if she thought that a good article to write then they should sack her, and why did the DM let it through.   Tells you a lot of Jan Moir, rotten to the core.
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« Reply #198 on: July 24, 2018, 08:51:02 pm »

Princess Anne could have allowed the Queen to give Zara and Peter royal titles. But didn't. They both had beautiful weddings as befitting the grandchildren of QE II. Like Anne's children, Eugenie and Bea are not working royals.
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« Reply #199 on: July 24, 2018, 09:11:32 pm »

IMHO Eugenie is entitled to an equal or bigger wedding than Turkey had.  loveshower This is Eugenie's first wedding; not her second or third.  Lips Sealed

My thoughts exactly!
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