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« Reply #760 on: February 16, 2018, 04:22:50 pm »

Since she’s playing humanitarian, she should cancel the church wedding and the carriage ride so the homeless people aren’t disturbed, but we all know that’s not going to happen. The comments should be scathing especially towards her.


It would be a drop in the bucket if one couple did it. So if it applies to H and M maybe Eugenie should do the same thing with their wedding and help out the poor by saving wedding expenses and helping the homeless. IMO the rules of sacrificing should apply to all royals.

Is Eugenie holding herself out as some great humanitarian as Meggles is?   It isn't really the money spent on the wedding that's being argued here; it's the hypocrisy of Meggles.
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« Reply #761 on: February 16, 2018, 04:48:50 pm »

I don't think that really matters. Eugenie did charity work. And yes of course there is hypocrisy among royals about preaching and not doing much about it. I could list many examples of this. But it would seem that "helping" by having a smaller wedding does not come across as more than "punishing Meghan" for speaking out and not doing anything about it. I think it is a case of all or none. And yes, it's a great idea for all of them to scale down their lavish lifestyles. And then none of them would speak out about poverty and not be penalized by putting money where there mouth is. I think all of them should scale down whether they speak out about issues or not.
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« Reply #762 on: February 16, 2018, 05:51:37 pm »

It's easy to deprive her!  She's American and already been down the aisle.  She's not missing out!  Eugenie is granddaughter of a monarch....big difference.
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« Reply #763 on: February 16, 2018, 06:07:37 pm »

Whether they are born into the Firm or not, they are classified as royals. Should Harry and Meghan have children, she would be the mother of  great grandchildren of the Queen. So people marrying into the family should have an inferior wedding to one "born into" the Firm even though she is down in line of succession? And also be the only royal to have a scaled down wedding while Prince X or Princess X have one 10X as expensive? why not have all of them have scaled down weddings?  She will be Harry's first wife not second wife in any case. And that seems to be what matters here. Harry is a part of the equation too. So if she gets the scaled down one her fiance the grandchild of the Queen will have to "sacrifice" also?

I think the Charles and Camilla type wedding would apply if this were Harry's second time around. It is his first and hopefully only marriage. So it won't be scaled down. But that said, C and C's wedding was not "poverty row" and cost $$$$ too. they did not just go into that registry office, they had a blessing and a large reception. And the security costs money too.
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« Reply #764 on: February 16, 2018, 07:00:05 pm »

The BRF has never been about being fair or just.
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« Reply #765 on: February 16, 2018, 07:26:19 pm »

^^ Prince Michael of Kent, grandson of a monarch, had a scaled down wedding when he married a divorced Catholic foreigner.  It is done when the circumstances call for it.
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« Reply #766 on: February 16, 2018, 07:42:08 pm »

Yes, but Prince Michael had no chance of being a monarch and is the son of King George VI's brother. They did not exactly rent out a "hall" with cut rate chicken dinners. And it is forgotten how Harry was sent threatening messages by terrorist organizations because he served in Afghanistan. That alone would call for $$$$ on security no matter where the wedding was held.
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« Reply #767 on: February 16, 2018, 08:08:53 pm »

^^ Yes, but back then being a "divorcé/e" was a much bigger issue, and worse yet, him marrying a Catholic meant being excluded from the line of succession. So his wedding absolutely had to be scaled down. Murkles could be Catholic (or Jewish even, i.e. non-Christian) and him marrying her would make no difference to the line of succession. Things have changed considerably, so it's not realistic to have the same wedding and consequences for Harry as for Michael back in the day when the then "princess Pushy" came in.
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« Reply #768 on: February 16, 2018, 08:24:54 pm »

^^ Prince Michael of Kent, grandson of a monarch, had a scaled down wedding when he married a divorced Catholic foreigner.  It is done when the circumstances call for it.
well said... marry a divorcée is a big no-no in monarchies, particularly in BRF... harry and meghan dont deserves any special treatment... everyone knows why the son of a future king is getting married at Windsor
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« Reply #769 on: February 16, 2018, 10:24:17 pm »

So Harry, the son of the Prince of Wales, the future King Charles III, should have a cut price wedding because he's marrying a divorcee, even though this is his first wedding, while Eugenie, who will be ninth in succession and whose father has no chance of becoming King, gets a lavish wedding with all the trimmings? Why didn't the then Heir to the Spanish throne, Felipe, think of that when he married the divorced Letizia?

And Charles's supposed 'downscale' wedding cost £5 million apart from security when he married Camilla. Some downsizing! The Queen and Charles will be paying for much of Harry's wedding as they did William and Kate's much more lavish affair.

And the security details are there for all weddings were royals are gathered together, RPOs etc are on duty even when royals are snoring away at home. Police details are there when royals attend memorial services and services of dedication, jubilee celebrations and hundreds of other occasions, private and public when they gather together.
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« Reply #770 on: February 16, 2018, 10:56:38 pm »

^  No . . . what I am saying -- although not vehemently, as I think the posh wedding will provides loads of snarking -- is that because Meghan Markle makes such a big deal out of her charity/humanitarian/UN persona [all fake as far as I can tell -- but I digress] . . . and because she "dresses down" to be "one of the people"   with slopping coats, ill-fitting pants, and jeans with holes on them. . . that it would be consistent with her fake persona to have a scaled down event so she could be consistent with the fake persona.

I don't know that Harry gives a rip about what kind of wedding he has -- he certainly isn't giving a rip about what kind of bride he's selecting, so . . .  Cool
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« Reply #771 on: February 17, 2018, 12:22:11 am »

It's Harry's wedding too. Why would Harry have to have a scaled down wedding because of that? ALL the royals make big issues of things and try to act like the "rest of us". William hunts like mad but has tried to craft an image of himself as a "friend to animals." When you get right down to it many senior royals are fakes. So why would Meghan be the only one singled out? Who when you get right down to it is "genuine" in that family? Possibly the Queen but the others (some even born into the Firm) seem like phonies.They also don't all dress like Queen Victoria and have dressed as informally as Meghan at times. I think Harry cares very much about the wedding he has.
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« Reply #772 on: February 17, 2018, 12:23:59 am »

I think Harry is a little bitter that he isn't getting a major venue, but this is a disaster and has had nothing but bad vibes from the public since day one. Kind of like how Charles wants Camilla as Princess of Wales, but Camilla has to accept Duchess of Cornwall as her title and style. Meg brings nothing to the BRF.
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« Reply #773 on: February 17, 2018, 12:31:02 am »

Camilla helped break up a marriage and undermined an extremely popular royal.

Meghan did not do anything like Camilla did. Harry did not have a wife much less a popular one.

Not everybody thinks badly about Meghan. The Tumblr people even denied they were dating! They don't represent the world.
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« Reply #774 on: February 17, 2018, 12:53:38 am »

Meghan is a divorced woman who's marrying a HRH Prince of England. Harry knows very well why he's a getting Windsor wedding not at London. Everyone who read about BRF knows very well why he's not getting a London wedding. As Charles knows very well why he and camilla got married at Windsor

Eugenie is someone that's NOT important in present let alone in future of the monarchy - no matters how her father feels about that - to her, it was never in cards a Westminster Abbey wedding - no mystery

Their wedding isnt even considered a semi-State affair -no presidents, 1rst ladies, foreign royals - all very obvious
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« Reply #775 on: February 17, 2018, 01:07:14 am »

Nobody involved said "why" he was getting married there. It is purely speculation as to "why". It's not like they are "making him" marry at Craithie Church and have a reception of cheese and crackers.Windsor is not exactly a "dump" in any case.  I agree that Eugenie is not important in future of the monarchy.

William and Kate did not seem to appreciate the London wedding, putting in those trees.
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« Reply #776 on: February 17, 2018, 01:16:24 am »

pure speculation? yeah, god knows why william and kate werent allowed marry in amazing St George's Chapel... and why Charles not picked Westminster Abbey for his 2nd wedding to a divorced woman... why he chose the amazing St George's Chapel ? all pure speculation... comprehension of the obvious?... never mind!
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« Reply #777 on: February 17, 2018, 01:24:38 am »

It is speculation since there are no direct quotes from any of the parties as to why. Charles and Camilla had to have the actual ceremony in a registry office--he was a divorced man and she a divorcee (and the other woman in the first wedding). They got married in any case and it took nearly 9 years after his divorce from Diana for them to do so.

Maybe some find St. George's Chapel amazing. For a mere chapel it holds many people.

The St. George's Chapel may look fabulous compared to the Westminster with the indoor trees thought decorative by Kate and/or Will.
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« Reply #778 on: February 17, 2018, 03:03:55 am »

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In an open letter published in the Daily Mail before their engagement was announced, she wrote: 'She’ll have to think very carefully about how she presents herself in public What she does, what she wears, how she behaves and what she’s seen doing with whom.
'Her behaviour to a certain extent, now reflects upon Prince Harry.' 
Koo added: 'I hope she’s a nice girl and doesn’t break his heart. My main concern is for him. He’s the one taking the big leap of faith. He doesn’t know if she’s going to be a loyal friend or not; whether she can stand the pressures or not. She needs to be able to put up, and shut up.
'If they are both invested in this relationship, it can work. Times have changed, and the world is more generous. Look at Prince Charles, now married to a divorcée, and Prince William married a commoner.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5399459/Prince-Andrews-ex-Koo-Stark-attends-book-launch-London.html#ixzz57KVhSFMc

It's not just size that matters! Jewelry experts reveal what women REALLY think a 'big diamond' looks like on an engagement ring - and why many see Meghan Markle's as the perfect pick
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hobbittoes, crustyfeet, United States, 7 hours ago
LOL!!! Thats a cheap looking walmart ring. Get real. I love that Nutmeg has to pretend to like it. She must have been beside herself when Harry gave her that cheap thing, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Harry is a tool.
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WolfQueen, Upper Great Lakes, United States, 5 hours ago
Thank you! Nice to see someone agrees. It looks like a Costco special & we all know those aren't Diana's jewels flopping around on there unsecured.
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« Reply #779 on: February 17, 2018, 08:08:39 am »

"cheap looking walmart ring" laugh
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