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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2018, 02:40:40 am »

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If the text of the various reports of the return of the Duchess of Cambridge had been read carefully, it would have been obvious that she is not coming back full time until the new year.  Best example is from The Daily Telegraph (UK).  “The Duchess will have a few engagements throughout the rest of the year as she gradually adapts back to life as a working royal whilst juggling the various demands of her young brood.
Prince George has just returned to Thomas’s Battersea for his second school year, while Princess Charlotte attends Willcocks Nursery School in Kensington.
The Duchess will be working full time again from the New Year, the Telegraph understands.”
This report is dated 2 October.
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Her patronage's dropped her and now she's going to basically do nothing for the rest of the year. She has basically taken the year off.  sauer What's the point of her? Funny how prior to the wedding, people saw what she was about. It's apitty Wills didn't and dumped her again now matter what her family or the press would've said.  eating cookies Now she's just a very dull boring limpet living off the royal family and offering nothing in return. I think with the Harry/Meghan show, the press won't ask questions as to why she's not doing her fare share that her position requires. Citing her being a mum of 3 is laughable in more ways than one as she has a bunch of servants and nurses to look after them.
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2018, 02:59:57 am »

Which patronages have dropped her?

Looking at the British Monarchy website she has 16:

100 Women in Finance
Action for Children
All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club (aka Wimbledon)
Anna Freud National Centre for Children and Families
East Anglia's Children's Hospices
National Portrait Gallery
National History Museum
Nursing Now campaign
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SportsAid
The 1851 Trust
The Air Cadet Organisation
The Lawn Tennis Association
The Royal Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
The Victoria and Albert Museum


The Art Room doesn't appear on the list created by the British Monarchy website but she is listed as a patron on the website for The Art Room itself.
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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2018, 03:13:41 am »

The better question woud be how many of her patronage's has she visited, done anything for throughout the year? 
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2018, 03:47:59 am »

I think she has done nothing for them; her job is to be seen doing her duties and clearly she isn't. No one really believes she's going to be dutiful anymore and clearly her antics of making the world wait on her has backfired. No one is waiting around, the press has Harry and Meg, the BRF is crumbling in terms of goodwill of the public, and William has made it clear that yet again, Jecca comes first in his life and always will.

I think at this point, give it a handful of years and there will be a divorce. In that family if you marry in, you're only as good as the amount of work you put in and it's a cruel thing, but it's the truth. She's just an odd addendum to their lives, whose place in that family has never been meant to be. She'll be paid off via a small sum (not much since she will have no leverage or status to bargain and get anything substantial) and relegated to the social backwater that is the place of ex-consorts.

She won't get a place at KP, she won't get a huge amount of money, and she will not at all have an office since she doesn't work so there won't be money for office expenses. The kids will be quietly shunted aside and some excuse will be made as to why they won't be in the succession any longer. I think she is truly unaware of just how utterly close she is to losing everything she ever gained via that relationship with William that started when she sashayed down that catwalk in her undies.

It's a real shame since she would have had it so much better if she had just remained his friend and enjoyed the kudos from that. It will take time, but soon all her patronages will come out and say they ended their association with her and she'll be moved out and there'll be some kind of excuse. I'm certain that the palace will say that the duchess simply hasn't done her duties, they'll cite infidelity, they'll find something and she'll be broomed out just as she was in 2007, only this time for good.

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If the text of the various reports of the return of the Duchess of Cambridge had been read carefully, it would have been obvious that she is not coming back full time until the new year.  Best example is from The Daily Telegraph (UK).  “The Duchess will have a few engagements throughout the rest of the year as she gradually adapts back to life as a working royal whilst juggling the various demands of her young brood.
Prince George has just returned to Thomas’s Battersea for his second school year, while Princess Charlotte attends Willcocks Nursery School in Kensington.
The Duchess will be working full time again from the New Year, the Telegraph understands.”
This report is dated 2 October.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com
Her patronage's dropped her and now she's going to basically do nothing for the rest of the year. She has basically taken the year off.  sauer What's the point of her? Funny how prior to the wedding, people saw what she was about. It's apitty Wills didn't and dumped her again now matter what her family or the press would've said. eating cookies Now she's just a very dull boring limpet living off the royal family and offering nothing in return. I think with the Harry/Meghan show, the press won't ask questions as to why she's not doing her fare share that her position requires. Citing her being a mum of 3 is laughable in more ways than one as she has a bunch of servants and nurses to look after them.

I cannot imagine just how ticked off HM and Charles and the courtiers; getting dropped by a patronage is a signal that she's not doing anything with them and I do not think she's patron of any of the other charities. I believe she's actually lost all of them and the courtiers have given up on trying to help her, to try to get her to help themselves. If she were a celeb, she would no longer have a career and I think her 'career' as a 'working royal' is basically over as well. The press has Harry and Meg now and it is clear that Charles favors Meg if he's spending all this money on her. Meg is doing more and I do believe she could very well end up losing her marriage. As life has shown, marriage is not set in stone and the BRF did not let her in to be a simple country housewife and be a soccer mom member of the gentry.
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2018, 04:11:54 am »

The Meghan Harry show is definitely a disraction against Wills and Waity but eventually, the press has to focus on them because they're the future king and queen consort. The press, government and the royal family needs to deal with what's at hand; the breakdown of Wills and Waity's marriage as they're nw just keeping up appearances but won't be able to do that for much longer as Waity's public engagement's have dwindled. Pull the side show that's Meghan and Harry and get to the actual important matter before it's too late. Boot lazy Wity out along with Meghan now!
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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2018, 11:04:39 am »

^Amen to that
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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2018, 04:34:41 pm »

^^ Yes. I think also that H/M are a distraction, for now, but won't be for long. They don't exactly exude stability, and as we all know, there's more there than the PR/press narrative. Both couples seem to be on a fast track to disaster.
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2018, 04:51:22 pm »

People don't forget how Lazy Will and Kate have been. I notice this in the comments sections and boards. Kate especially got plenty of "from what?" comments when her returning from maternity leave stories came out. Some found it offensive.
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2018, 05:09:56 pm »

The Meghan Harry show is definitely a disraction against Wills and Waity but eventually, the press has to focus on them because they're the future king and queen consort. The press, government and the royal family needs to deal with what's at hand; the breakdown of Wills and Waity's marriage as they're nw just keeping up appearances but won't be able to do that for much longer as Waity's public engagement's have dwindled. Pull the side show that's Meghan and Harry and get to the actual important matter before it's too late. Boot lazy Wity out along with Meghan now!

WK might be getting good press now, but I do wonder if whether or not WK realize that this is only a short term respite and all the good press in the world isn't going to build ties that the UK government needs them to build. Good press will not translate into trade deals and will not translate into alliances (diplomatic or political or both) and good press doesn't mean that WK are entitled to do anything or have anything that their people need. Neither are even in a position to dictate to the press since the press itself could easily turn on them and ruin them. Kate especially should be more conciliatory since if not for the press, she wouldn't be where she is.
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2018, 06:11:14 pm »

True. The press helped walk Kate down the aisle in WA. One would think they would know enough to treat the press with kid gloves. Time and time again, though, they've proved that wrong. The press is not their enemy. They need the press, especially given their life choices.
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« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2018, 12:08:38 am »

Kate still hasn't learnt to keep her mouth closed.  A large gaping guffawing mouth is so unladylike and unRoyal.
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« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2018, 01:18:24 am »

Yes, but how else is she supposed to show off those teeth made allegedly by Dr. Fillion? The whole world has to know that she has £10k teeth.

This is old, but details her choppers. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/kate-middleton/8917484/French-dental-pioneer-created-naturally-perfect-smile-for-Kate-Middleton-it-is-claimed.html

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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2018, 04:09:15 am »

The Meghan Harry show is definitely a disraction against Wills and Waity but eventually, the press has to focus on them because they're the future king and queen consort. The press, government and the royal family needs to deal with what's at hand; the breakdown of Wills and Waity's marriage as they're nw just keeping up appearances but won't be able to do that for much longer as Waity's public engagement's have dwindled. Pull the side show that's Meghan and Harry and get to the actual important matter before it's too late. Boot lazy Wity out along with Meghan now!

WK might be getting good press now, but I do wonder if whether or not WK realize that this is only a short term respite and all the good press in the world isn't going to build ties that the UK government needs them to build. Good press will not translate into trade deals and will not translate into alliances (diplomatic or political or both) and good press doesn't mean that WK are entitled to do anything or have anything that their people need. Neither are even in a position to dictate to the press since the press itself could easily turn on them and ruin them. Kate especially should be more conciliatory since if not for the press, she wouldn't be where she is.

No member of the BRF is there to do trade deals or for diplomatic alliances. Their job is purely ceremonial and goodwill - nothing more.

If the politicians want trade deals they have to do it. The politicians do know, however, that sending a popular young royal couple can assist in setting up the situation where trade talks etc can follow but that is not the role of the royals. If a trade deal doesn't follow it isn't down to the royal couple but to the failure of the politicians and diplomats whose job it is to do these things - just as when they do happen the politicians and diplomats get the credit.

The BRF are there to simply look good, make people feel good, take people's minds of the bad things in the world. They are not politicians or diplomats and do not get involved in political or diplomatic situations. It is actually not permitted for them to be involved in political matters at all.
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« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2018, 04:53:35 am »

Neither set of newly married royals are 'young' in the context that they would be exciting to be around and as for trade, true enough, but royals are supposed to grease the wheels.

As for alliances, the only reason that royal consorts get any kind of respect, it's through the allies they make via their charity work. Leverage is leverage and it can make a HUGE difference in how a royal wife ends up if the marriage is dissolved. One way for a royal ex to survive via support is to have a huge amount of established work that would create a huge void if said royal ex were to leave their charity work and that is how they manage to continue to live a comfortable life.

True. The press helped walk Kate down the aisle in WA. One would think they would know enough to treat the press with kid gloves. Time and time again, though, they've proved that wrong. The press is not their enemy. They need the press, especially given their life choices.

After all the press did for her, you would think that the press would be Kate's best friends and she would be engaging with them more often via appearances and schmoozing herself. One day however the press will move on to the latest addition to the world stage and I am sure that Kate will want the press to pay attention to her, but the press will ignore her and choose to focus on the latest addition. She will miss that attention and clearly it will be pathetic that a royal will have to work to get attention and just one day the press will bite back at her and tell her they're no longer interested in her. The press made her and the press can ruin her image and her image is all she has left.

In the event that William does find some pretext to end his marriage (given that he's openly seen with Jecca just recently should be enough of a warning sign), with so little work experience, she has no way to leverage even a slender hold on her current posh life. Every empty day is just another mark in the negative side of the ledger of her position and since she does no work, the BRF will not feel her absence keenly and neither will the patronages she has left. I am certain that in the event of the end of her marriage, the BRF will not feel obligated to pay for her to have an office, or put her up in KP for the rest of her life, or even send her off with a decent settlement. Really, just because Diana was well treated, it does not mean that Kate will.

If she thinks she's entitled to anything because of the dating years, she will experience a nasty shock mainly since that will not count for anything in the eyes of anyone who will rule on the amount that William will have to give. She has literally no leverage to speak of and she has no idea just how disposable she really is. HM might forbid a divorce, but a King Charles might in fact reassure William that he will give his blessing in dissolving the marriage and Kate will be left with nearly nothing.
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