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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2017, 11:59:28 pm »

Telegraph letter - says it all

Dear Sir,

Cat and fox in Brussels

Since negotiations started in April 2017 the EU has been quick to make demands well in excess of anything envisaged in Section 50. Some demands are spurious, confusing the issues at stake. EU Bureaucrats want to know everything BEFORE trade negotiations start, when so many items can only be resolved DURING trade talks.
The Irish border is one example. Only if the UK is forced into a HARD BREXIT will there be a major problem for Ireland; a generous trade deal could maintain something like the status quo. But the Irish are so scared of losing their present trade advantages that they demand assurances "up front".  Liam Fox is correct in saying that a final outcome can only be resolved in the context of a trade deal. EU demands in support of the Irish government's position are totally unjustified.
Meanwhile the EU continues a strategy of delays, deadlines, red lines and ransoms calculated to humiliate UK negotiators and to inspire widespread demands inside the UK for a quick and HARD BREXIT
Possibly they want to drive us into this position, to demonstrate their power and to punish our bid for freedom, irrespective of the damage to the trade of Ireland and many other of the 27 nations of the EU. Certainly they are going the right way about it.
We need our negotiators to stay cool. For there is no possibility of a return to the fold. The UK has no wish to remain a minor part of an undemocratic power bloc which dictates to its subjected nations on matters of trade, law, currency, tax, borders, people movement, and (next on their list) defense and war. Nor do we wish to inflict trading harm on EU members nor abandon many valuable European connections and standards.The sooner EU negotiators grasp the realities of BREXIT the better, so that trade talks can start as soon as possible.
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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2017, 02:27:29 am »

 Brilliant article
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5134843/TOM-UTLEY-millennials-like-sons-wrong.html
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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2017, 02:46:29 am »

^Wow.  Bravo!
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2017, 11:28:55 am »

https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-eu-says-britain-will-remain-a-member-of-the-single?utm_term=.vil1gQGbx#.ghYWaQOL1

Trying to get my head around this - a remainer leading Brexit discussions. No surprise  dragging the proverbial feet of the nation.

If it's a case of 'we know best not the electorate' what is the point of voting?

Leave means leave it's that simple. The didactic nature of EU legislature may please 49% of the country but 51% voted and their voices should be heard and enacted in these 'talks' which appear more like the British isles pandering to their and the EU whims.

Someone from the leave camp should be in charge of these negotiations. We're an embarrassment on the world stage as a country as usual. What happened to backbone and independent spiritedness?
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2017, 05:18:32 pm »

Theresa May is a weak PM and needs to go...and fast
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2017, 08:43:47 pm »

There are a lot of very angry with Theresa May people n the UK tonight.

Typical responses from other forums

'After reading and trying to make some kind of sense of May's so-called negotiations, I don't think that I will ever vote again.  To be honest, I now don't care if the Tories are toppled and Corbyn takes over because there is nothing to chose between either Party as the UK is going to remain the EU in some shape or form.  May is a quisling, a liar and a traitor to this nation. She deserves nothing but opprobrium and if she had any decency, she would resign,but she will stay at No 10 as the EU's little helper.'


My mother and my grandmother were Conservatives and I joined the YCs at the age of 18.  With two exceptions when I voted Lib Dem as a friend was standing for Parliament, I have been a Tory voter.  No more.  As far as I am concerned, the Tories can rot in Hell; they have betrayed everything that our wonderful nation, for over a thousand years, has embraced.  Unless they get rid of May, the Conservatives will be consigned to the political dustbin and will never form another Government.

- and others
'This is a very dark day for our once-great nation.'

'My mother and my grandmother were Conservatives and I joined the YCs at the age of 18.  With two exceptions when I voted Lib Dem as a friend was standing for Parliament, I have been a Tory voter.  No more.  As far as I am concerned, the Tories can rot in Hell; they have betrayed everything that our wonderful nation, for over a thousand years, has embraced.  Unless they get rid of May, the Conservatives will be consigned to the political dustbin and will never form another Government.'

A very angry Nigel Farage was on TV saying TM had capitulated and we were leaving the UK in name only.
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2017, 08:54:14 pm »

That ruddy woman should be taken forthwith to The Tower and thence to The Block. We did that before to our nation's traitors and we should re-introduce it. 
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The ghost of Frances Winchcombe is finding a new house to haunt.  She has reportedly said: "Carole Middleton scares me to death..."
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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2017, 09:05:54 pm »

Nothing is signed yet so surely we're not bound d by this.  Somebody please tell me, after the backlash, when her treachery has sunk in,  she may still be ousted. There are a lot more negotiations to go so, please God, she will fail at the next hurdle. Is it there no one in the Tory party who is hungry enough for power to want to lead take over as leader
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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2017, 09:19:22 pm »

I wish there were, Marion!  However, I read somewhere that the senior Brexit Tories are keeping quiet about May's so-called negotiations, so I'm hoping that plots and all manner of skullduggery to oust her will be taking place outside Westminster this weekend.  It's the least she deserves...and a lot more for selling out our nation to that vile organisation.  As they (whoever they are!) say, "It ain't over till the fat lady sings..."  I'm looking forward to May's final act, but doubt if she will get a standing ovation...
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The ghost of Frances Winchcombe is finding a new house to haunt.  She has reportedly said: "Carole Middleton scares me to death..."
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