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« on: July 26, 2017, 09:51:16 am »

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40717424
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2017, 11:27:30 am »

Well, I don't particularly like Earl Spencer, but I do think he was lied to about his nephews wanting to walk behind their mother's coffin after he protested it. I don't know who wanted those boys to walk but I think it's pretty clear that neither William or Harry wanted to. This remark by Earl Spencer puts Harry's recent remark about no child should have to be put through that in some context.

The podcast, in which Charles Spencer talks about his sister, the eulogy and the funeral arrangements.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p059prcm
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 01:14:10 pm »

When I saw this topic I first thought something happened to him!

Some assume that Charles wanted the boys as "buffer" and "protection" because he feared the wrath of the public directed at him.
I guess we will eventually find out why they were made to walk behind..

Diana's brother says royal officials LIED to him that William and Harry wanted to walk behind their mother's coffin as he claims there have been four break-in attempts at her grave

    Earl Spencer 'was lied to' about William and Harry wanting to walk behind coffin
    He said he raised objections with officials but was told the pair wanted to do it
    The Earl also said there have been four attempted break-ins where she is buried


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4731620/Princess-Diana-s-brother-speaks-attempted-break-ins.html
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 01:38:11 pm »

And Phil, the Greek, was portrayed as a hero grandfather.... William and Harry are tired of Establishment lies ... ooops spin... Years ago, Charles S said he was against put the  boys through that walk... and Diana would have been totally against that
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 04:12:28 am »

Exactly. The boys kept Chucky and Phil from being pelted with worse than bread rolls.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 06:07:12 am »

I believe him. I think the fact that he was against it and knew Diana wouldn't want it is why he chose to walk with them. The way he checked on Harry when they were supposed to be out of the line of site from onlookers speaks volumes.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 01:11:31 pm »

I also believe the boys were used by the palace to prevent violence, verbal or otherwise, against Charles. At least PC had the decency not to wear black.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 08:37:33 pm »

For a very brief time, Charles was trying to play "widower." That spin ended really fast.  Some buy into that Charles had really really cared about Diana to do this. But that was a joke because Charles treated her horribly when she was alive.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 09:18:58 pm »

^They tried to play on this theory in the film "The Queen." They portrayed Charles as crying over Di and fighting with his mother to allow him to go to Paris and escort Diana's body back.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 09:28:05 pm »

^^ Charles supposedly wore that dark blue suit because Diana bought it and/ or liked it most.. Don't know if it's true or spin.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 01:00:34 am »

I have read in one or two books, one was called The day Diana Died (but I have since realized that's just a PR damage control book), that Charles was distraught when he arrived in France after standing up to the queen and telling Fellows to impale himself on his staff, and also that C. freaked out when he allegedly saw Dianas body and realized that she was only wearing one earring... so he had the the other earring found and lovingly put it on her ear. Who knows though....I feel when it comes to the after math of her death, we wont ever get the truth.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 01:12:55 am »

Indeed. On top of that it was a huge shock to everyone, people act strangely in grief and sometimes need medication to get through it, who knows whether people remember everything as it really was. It is possible that Charles reacted heavily when she died, for many reasons.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 05:33:55 am »

Christopher Andersen's books (like the Day Diana Died) tend to be fanciful and he relates "conversations" that never took place or makes them up (like what Camilla told Charles over the phone when Diana died). I think Charles was just worried about himself.  It did not take him long (less than a year after Diana died) to push his own agenda with Camilla and he resumed the spin (and Junor and Smith began the Diana bashing). I don't think "lovingly" ever described how Charles perceived Diana. I don't believe the earring story.
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