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« on: June 14, 2017, 10:55:01 pm »

Fears that new cladding made Grenfell Tower 'light up like a matchstick': First bodies are removed from building as 12 are confirmed dead and dozens missing amid chilling warning that 'nobody on top three floors survived'

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Last night countless of our capital's poorest burned to death in a man-made Roman Candle in one of Britain's richest boroughs. We can't blame terrorists. It wasn't an act of God. But someone was to blame. And they need to go to jail

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London fire: Twelve confirmed dead but police expect further fatalities after tower block blaze – latest updates
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/14/grenfell-tower-major-fire-london-apartment-block-white-city-latimer-road

An inferno seemingly from another time or place kills 12 in London
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/london-high-rise-fire-leaves-multiple-people-dead-dozens-injured-and-others-missing/2017/06/14/149bc112-50cf-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.6d5e347bad6d
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 12:19:49 pm »

The problem is, it is alleged that a fridge exploded very early yesterday morning and was on fire.  Instead of dialling 999 the numbskull called the council.  He allegedly even went and knocked a neighbour up to tell him what had happened.  That is what I read yesterday.  So if this is correct, why did the fridge explode and why, in Gods name, did he not get dial 999 immediately, mega important especially in a tower block  -  they would have been out of the fire house with 30 seconds.  I am very sad for so many lost lives, and so sorry the whole thing happened full stop.  But so many are ready to jump on anyone they think they can put the blame on.  Probably back tracked on that story re fridge exploding, but he allegedly told someone it was his flat where the fire started.  We know the powers that be and the media all lie and do cover ups.  If down to the council no doubt the world and his wife will be claiming for a huge payout.  No payout if the man in the apartment admits what happened is there.

It is a tragedy, no mistake about it, so many lives lost, families lost loved ones, people throwing themsleves out of windows to escape.  Nightmare on Elm Street for so many people, and the top three floors it would appear were not able to get out.  This will stay with those famlies forever, and could possibly take a toll on their health going forward.  I felt sick when I got up yesterday and saw the news, live at the scene.  Horrific for so many.  I just dislike the way the media manipulate situations and agree to lie to cover up the truth.  If this is not down to the council then why should they be sued for compensation, their resources are low already, without pushing something on to them that was not their fault.  So who would they sue if indeed that fire did start as alleged above?  They can sue him, but he has no money to pay them.  And will he go to jail? For an accident that turned into a tragedy?  Have to confess I have never liked tower blocks for that very reason  -  fire.  I lived on an 11th floor once, three months I lasted, worried me sick about a fire starting and getting out. 

Maybe they could blame terrorists. They could blame anyone, no official truthful line will be put out to the public.  The elite control the media, and they can push out anything they want to to push blame wherever they want.  Meantime, there are many suffering who may never know the truth.

Let us hope they never build another tower block on that site, too many bad, sad memories for so many. Even the people who escaped must be mentally scarred, and learn to live with it and move forward.  My heart goes out to them all, but sadly I no longer believe that whatever the media push out is the truth, they are the puppets of the elite, whether we like it or not.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 01:50:21 pm »

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry donate to fund for Grenfell Tower victims
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/kate-wills-and-harry-donate-to-fund-for-grenfell-tower-victims-a3565531.html?amp

A message from The Queen following the fire in Grenfell Tower yesterday.
https://www.royal.uk/message-queen-following-fire-grenfell-tower-yesterday

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 04:26:08 pm »

The man 'whose faulty fridge started tower inferno': Neighbour reveals how Ethiopian taxi driver raised the alarm when deadly blaze started in his fourth-floor kitchen

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Thousands more lives at risk: Fears for dozens of other buildings refurbished with Grenfell Tower cladding as MP calls for 'corporate manslaughter' arrests

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Grenfell Tower fire: Theresa May orders public inquiry into London blaze – latest updates
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/15/london-fire-17-confirmed-dead-as-police-expect-more-fatalities-after-tower-block-blaze-latest


London fire latest: Grenfell Tower death toll rises to 17 as Theresa May orders public inquiry
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/15/london-fire-latest-death-toll-set-rise-amid-grim-search-grenfell/
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2017, 01:56:16 pm »

My condolences to all those affected.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2017, 10:30:38 pm »

Fury over Grenfell Tower tragedy boils over as protesters storm Kensington Town Hall, boo PM and march on Downing St shouting 'May must go' as they blame Tory cuts for the fire that 'killed 70'

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Why has she only come on Friday?' Angry protestors surround Theresa May's Land Rover as she is snuck out of a church side door to avoid a furious crowd after she FINALLY meets survivors of the Grenfell inferno

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 06:33:50 pm »

Relief at last for Grenfell Tower families as 250 homeless residents are rehoused in a £2billion luxury block in Kensington after authorities buy up 68 flats in £10million deal

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2017, 10:08:23 pm »

BREAKING NEWS: Camden Council forces 800 households out of their homes as it evacuates FIVE tower blocks for urgent fire safety work after they are found to have similar cladding to inferno-hit Grenfell Tower

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2017, 07:28:43 pm »

If the Council signed off on the renovations then they are responsible surely for the fire getting out of control.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEzv26jdfUAhVKLsAKHQKUAkEQFggiMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2017%2F06%2F16%2Fgrenfell-tower-refurbishment-used-cheaper-cladding-tenants-accused%2F&usg=AFQjCNHcuZCbV63LhnFkB4jIhzrBPc4SdA

Kensington Council has stockpiled £274m of usable reserves following years of chronic underspending.

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2017, 01:43:37 pm »

Much on the Internet and other forums along these lines.

Many suspicious re the exploding fridge. Hot point mustn't take the rap. The confirmed story is an Ethiopian taxi driver was seen leaving his burning flat by a neighbour. He had opened the doors and windows and had a bag packed to leave. His wife and daughter had left a few days before. He said to the neighbour his flat was on fire but had not called 999.

Many people's money's also on it being either a) deliberately set fire to flat to get a house in exchange (this is going on all over Germany) and it got out of hand  or it/he was a terrorist.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2017, 03:07:45 pm »

It does not matter. Even if it was an accident or not it does not change the fact the building burned in a way it should not. Also if it was a terrorist attack the gov both local and national would not be responsible. Why lie in that way then? The KP Council would not have go. May would not have made such a mess. The only lie I see here is in the number of people that has died. They still have not said a realistic number.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2017, 08:36:40 am »

I'm surprised there are no sprinklers to put out a fire right away in the event one does happen.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 12:56:26 pm »


From another forum.

The whole thing seems very odd when you think it was alleged to have started with a fridge exploding, then the owner going next door not calling 999 then scarpering.  Something very wrong about it all.  Many not convinced re the fridge either.   Some say 40 bodies found in one flat and real figure for those dead is in the 100's. Media blackout said to be because  the government and council don't want tower block residents to know it was a terrorist attack.  People say Hotpoint should sue to for defamation of  character.

http://www.m2voice.com/british-judge-grenfell-tower-fire-caused-isis-bomb-media-blackout/
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 01:05:21 pm »

More from other forums

 'There was a discussion about this online last night and references to something called TATP which can be created on a domestic cooker yet is desperately unstable. Here's a link to one story about it.'

http://uk.businessinsider.com/paris-attack-tatp-chemical-bombs-2015-11?r=US&IR=T

Further the missing man is said to be an Ethiopian taxi driver - still unaccounted for after he was seen leaving with his bags packed, his wife and daughter having left days earlier.

This was tweeted by Old Holborn a few nights ago. He's not the same man but some Ethiopian so called asylum seeker.


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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2017, 07:46:17 pm »

If it was a terror attack, there should be the truth out.
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 11:48:38 am »

I read somewhere that a judge had said it was a terror attack - can't remember where - has anyone else seen this?
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 02:36:55 pm »

Is this the article you mean Marion?

http://www.m2voice.com/british-judge-grenfell-tower-fire-caused-isis-bomb-media-blackout/
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 04:17:39 pm »

Tycoons, oligarchs and royalty who keep homes empty in the shadow of Grenfell Tower are revealed after list of their names is accidentally leaked

    There are 1,652 unoccupied homes in Kensington and Chelsea borough
    Brompton Road Tube station left vacant since it was bought by oligarch
    Names of the high-profile owners of empty properties were revealed when council accidentally sent list to recipients including The Guardian newspaper
    Jeremy Corbyn and senior Labour MPs called for homes in Kensington and Chelsea left empty by overseas investors to be ‘requisitioned’ for victims fire


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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2017, 10:32:34 am »

^^@GB Yes!! Apologies for taking so long to reply  sorry
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