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« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2017, 07:33:41 am »

^^

Those close said it was a diversionary tactic and were very surprised at how something which could have been announced in a far less dramatic 'urgent' way was covered.   It's not as if he is retiring now but some months away in the Autumn.  As often reported QE's main objective is 'to keep the Monarchy up and running whatever it costs and whatever has to be done'.
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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2017, 07:57:05 am »

Makes complete sense  Val...for the staff to be called from all the royal estates like this is ridiculous.  This decision wouldn't have been taken at short notice so plenty of time to plan properly without a load of drama. Anyway if PP still undertaking some engagements,  as some say,  then he's not really retiring !!

The judgment from the French court case is imminent so shove out some news that will keep people's attention diverted for a while... unfortunately for ER and TPTB we can see through the BS.

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« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2017, 09:13:48 am »

^^ and ^ Totally agree.  Smoke screens and mirrors as usual.  Sadly for the rf too many of the public now see right through their tactics and there is no going back.  The whole family appear to lie through their back teeth, doubt any of them would know the truth if it bopped them on the nose.

The announcement said he was retiring in the autumn  -  which begs the question  -  why the urgency of the meeting now, early May, and especially when he still has some engagements in the diary that he wants to fulfill.  It does not make sense  Also, why get all the staff down to London.  I doubt he knows that many of them in person, they would be beneath his notice.  They call it "The Firm".  If that is the case then why did they not brief the most senior person in each mansion/palace and they could then arrange for a staff meeting, all happening around the UK at 10 a.m. and tell them PP was retiring.  No surprise at all  -  at nearly 96 he would have been expected to retire earlier, and with his ill health in recent years many are surprised he is even still doing engagements.  Or, they could have arranged a confererence call for 10 a.m. with all staff gathered at their own location to be informed.  And to be honest, it was not even the queen announcing it, it was one of her lackeys.

I would think, possibly, that he had a funny turn, hence the "urgent" announcement, but as the old boy shot up to the north to spend time with friends then we can rule that one out.

Bill and cath medd took such a bashing in the press the other day, and then suddenly, oops, PP is retiring  -  yeah right, and then taxayers forking out for all this getting them down to London  -  amazing how they can be so generous when it is not their money they are wasting.  In this day and age video conference meetings take place world wide, this was only the UK for goodness sake.

Of course he is going to die, and of course they want to lead up to it, but he has been an old man for quite a few years now, so again, why the sudden urgency.  My first thought was a smoke screen for bill medd and council cath, and nothing has occurred to make me think otherwise.  Yes, phasing out, urgent meeting to announce it  -  ridiculous.  Especially when basically, from the look of him these days, it is expected that he would not be able to continue engagements for much longer.
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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2017, 10:49:29 am »

There was no 'urgent' or 'emergency' meeting. There was a meeting, which happens a few times a year and the DM got wind of that meeting and blew it out of all proportions sending everyone into a frenzy.

Had the DM not made such a fuss the meeting would still have happened - so that the staff were told in person and not via some other means - but without all the carry-on that resulted from the use of words such as 'emergency meeting' and it being called at 3.00 a.m. - which it wasn't. It had been called earlier than that and most of the staff were already either in place or well on the way by the time the DM made their 'emergency meeting' story.

There is nothing sinister in this. There was no conspiracy. There was simply a regular meeting taking place for a specified reason/s - we actually don't know what else was discussed at the meeting and there was (from my sources I believe) more than just Philip's retirement.
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« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2017, 01:54:36 pm »

^^As you say autumn's several months off so why all the fuss and urgency. Maybe this has been announced this way is to force Willy to step up and do some real work.  Trouble is even when he dies turn up he looks do bored as if he'd feat rather be somewhere else ....not an asset to the RF in any shape or form.  None of us know what was it wasn't discussed at the meeting but it was very conveniently timed to reflect from the French court case.
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« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2017, 03:37:41 pm »

Makes complete sense  Val...for the staff to be called from all the royal estates like this is ridiculous.  This decision wouldn't have been taken at short notice so plenty of time to plan properly without a load of drama. Anyway if PP still undertaking some engagements,  as some say,  then he's not really retiring !!

The judgment from the French court case is imminent so shove out some news that will keep people's attention diverted for a while... unfortunately for ER and TPTB we can see through the BS.



^^ and ^ Totally agree.  Smoke screens and mirrors as usual.  Sadly for the rf too many of the public now see right through their tactics and there is no going back.  The whole family appear to lie through their back teeth, doubt any of them would know the truth if it bopped them on the nose.

The announcement said he was retiring in the autumn  -  which begs the question  -  why the urgency of the meeting now, early May, and especially when he still has some engagements in the diary that he wants to fulfill.  It does not make sense  Also, why get all the staff down to London.  I doubt he knows that many of them in person, they would be beneath his notice.  They call it "The Firm".  If that is the case then why did they not brief the most senior person in each mansion/palace and they could then arrange for a staff meeting, all happening around the UK at 10 a.m. and tell them PP was retiring.  No surprise at all  -  at nearly 96 he would have been expected to retire earlier, and with his ill health in recent years many are surprised he is even still doing engagements.  Or, they could have arranged a confererence call for 10 a.m. with all staff gathered at their own location to be informed.  And to be honest, it was not even the queen announcing it, it was one of her lackeys.

I would think, possibly, that he had a funny turn, hence the "urgent" announcement, but as the old boy shot up to the north to spend time with friends then we can rule that one out.

Bill and cath medd took such a bashing in the press the other day, and then suddenly, oops, PP is retiring  -  yeah right, and then taxayers forking out for all this getting them down to London  -  amazing how they can be so generous when it is not their money they are wasting.  In this day and age video conference meetings take place world wide, this was only the UK for goodness sake.

Of course he is going to die, and of course they want to lead up to it, but he has been an old man for quite a few years now, so again, why the sudden urgency.  My first thought was a smoke screen for bill medd and council cath, and nothing has occurred to make me think otherwise.  Yes, phasing out, urgent meeting to announce it  -  ridiculous.  Especially when basically, from the look of him these days, it is expected that he would not be able to continue engagements for much longer.

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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2017, 03:51:54 pm »

It would be great if the smokescreen did not work and William and Kate lose the case and have to pony up money to pay for the lawsuit from HIS own money.
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2017, 07:59:54 pm »

Willy Woo Woo The Petulant Prince and his Exhibitionist Slattern Wife should pay for their own lawsuits period.
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« Reply #68 on: May 07, 2017, 08:26:22 am »

The Lord Chamberlain called staff to the emergency meeting on Thursday morning  by email. So bad were the arrangements  of this that some staff missed it altogether as they were stuck in traffic on the M4 motorway. This was definitely not a well thought out announcement planned in advance but, as more and more are saying, a  last minute idea. Hardly a ringing  endorsement of his competence. Added to which, the cack-handed way this announcement was made has upset many including  the Australians... isn't  the Commonwealth going to become even more when we leave the EU  yet the RF can't even get this right and upset the very people whose goodwill will be vital in government negotiations. Heaven help us if there is a real emergency. Thisot couldn't arrange a knees-up in a brewery.

One palace insider said it was "unprecedented to call a mass rally of staff merely to say a man £1 years above the normal pension age was you g to take it easier in the autumn"

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/aussie-monarchists-take-earl-to-task/news-story/cd86359c7edab484cf5d17a9289570e5

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4480626/On-Majesty-s-secret-service.html
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« Reply #69 on: May 07, 2017, 08:30:27 am »

As of late it's as if the BRF has had problems pulling itself together and running as smoothly as they used to; a mix-up in regards to getting them through traffic while hyping up an upcoming announcement, only for it to be that Prince Philip is retiring and not dying.
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« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2017, 08:36:11 am »

If the announcement had been planned ahead, as some assert,  then noone would have been  stuck in traffic as journeys would have been planned ahead and everyone would have made sure they were at BP on time. Anyone living in the UK knows motorways are busy during the rush hour
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« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2017, 08:49:08 am »

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Just confirms what everyone is now saying ie that it was an obvious damage limitation move to drag the media to BP and away from the French court and reportings over there of Waity's topless display.   Some foreign rags even daring to say it was a shame it wasn't a sniper.
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« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2017, 10:09:37 am »

My information is that staff were told on the Wednesday to be at BP for a 10.00 a.m. meeting.

That some left it late too leave their homes is down to them as all were given plenty of time to get there - at least 17 hours.

It wasn't some 'emergency meeting' called at 3.00 a.m. that is implied in the DM's article.

The meeting also covered more than Philip's retirement (or so I have been told - not what else was discussed but simply that other things were discussed). I have also been told that this happens 2 - 3 times every year with the same time frame - given a time and place within about 24 hours to be at BP.

The whole issue is that the DM got wind of the meeting and made it into something where there was nothing all that urgent. They don't usually get wind of these meetings and they do happen more often than we are told.

Had the DM not got wind of this meeting then we would have been none the wiser.

As for Britain worrying about trade with the Commonwealth after Brexit - they already know they need good deals for any Commonwealth territories having turned their back on the Commonwealth/Empire to enter the EU in the first place.

The press speculation will happen over and over again as any whisper is going to get out and yet we have been told that any death between 10.00 p.m. and 8.00 a.m. will be made at 8.00 a.m. Sadly this means that there will very likely be more of these sorts of speculations as they aren't going to make the announcement during the night but they do inform the other realms PM - as our Acting PM made clear on Thursday when he said before 5.00 our time (8.00 a.m. London) that there was nothing to worry about and he had already been informed of the news as is the protocol.
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« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2017, 10:51:34 am »

^^^^^

Interesting article marion, thanks for posting.  Apparently it's only one of many and the palace are being asked many questions.
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« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2017, 11:52:45 am »

Exact Val. It's one thing trying to deflect from bad news is french case but quite another upsetting countries our government is trying to negotiate witb
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« Reply #75 on: May 07, 2017, 01:45:51 pm »

^and ^^  I agree.  All very odd.   For me the thing that makes it even more odd is that he is fulfilling engagements until the autumn, when he retires, which is 5 months away. So what was the overnight rush to call all staff to London. As I said previously, as they so like to call themselves "The Firm", then firms do not behave like that.  It is not state secret that the old boy is 96 this year, looks frail and ill, and is overdue to retire, so no great shock to anyone, let alone the staff.  A firm with office around the UK would get the staff gathered in large rooms and there would be a conference call, they do not bus in their staff to say their President, or whatever, is stepping down because he is nearly 96 and frail.  Not even as if HM made the announcement, it was one of her minions.  It could all have been done via conference call and nobody would have been inconvenienced.  The taxpayer money spent on their transportation could have gone to beter use, can think of the struggling NHS for one, and there are hundreds of other uses for that money.  Well seen they did not use their own money for it, they never do.  If they think they can cover up the disgusting French debacle then they are sadly mistaken, that is not going away, no matter who retires.  Let him retire in peace for what time he has left, suit himself and get on with it.  No need for all ther urgency and fanfare.  I also find it incredible that they expect us to think that they suddenly decided he was going to retire in 5 months and and boom, immediately call an urgent meeting to let the staff and public know.  Utterly ridiculous from start to finish.
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« Reply #76 on: May 07, 2017, 02:30:15 pm »

^ Prince Philip will be retiring from the time he and the Queen go to Balmoral for their summer holidays in August. That is about three months from now. Five months would make it October before he retired.
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« Reply #77 on: May 07, 2017, 02:43:17 pm »

What if the question was about other announcement and his retiring was only the official one for the publicity? Just asking.
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« Reply #78 on: May 07, 2017, 03:54:33 pm »

It was announced that he would be retiring/stepping down in the autumn, as told by The Telegraph  -  maybe they got it wrong, but I also heard it on the news as well, several times thankyou.  Based on that it would appear that his official retirement commences in the autumn, which is 5 months away.

Prince Philip retires: Queen's husband to step down from public life in autumn, Buckingham Palace announces

Prince Philip, who is 95, will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this year, Buckingham Palace has announced.

Prince Philip will attend previously scheduled engagements between now and August, both individually and accompanying The Queen.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/04/buckingham-palace-summons-entire-royal-household-emergency-meeting/
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« Reply #79 on: May 07, 2017, 11:10:39 pm »

If the announcement had been planned ahead, as some assert,  then noone would have been  stuck in traffic as journeys would have been planned ahead and everyone would have made sure they were at BP on time. Anyone living in the UK knows motorways are busy during the rush hour


It also wouldn't have sent the press on both sides of the pond into a frenzy.
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