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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2017, 04:10:17 pm »

Diana admitted throwing herself downstairs
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/princess-diana-threw-herself-down-10613530
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2017, 09:40:26 pm »

But she fell a few steps on a landing. Not the entire staircase. She would have had broken bones and had been hospitalized if she fell down an entire staircase.. One does not have to fall down an entire flight of stairs in falling.

This episode does still  not excuse the behavior of Charles and Camilla. Or whitewash it. Junor's and other's methods of "helping" C and C is to trash Diana.

She and Charles had a row over Camilla at the time. If she wanted to kill herself she would have done so. A fall down a few steps would not even break a bone.


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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2017, 02:10:25 am »

^CathyJane, What if Charles had married a foreign lady who was born a Princess?
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2017, 12:01:49 am »

It speaks volumes about the marriage if it's true that he felt upstaged. sly What sort of husband would feel upstaged instead of really proud and more in love with his wife? All this family needs longs therapy sessions.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2017, 12:34:04 am »

^^ That wouldn't have changed one thing, because even if he had married a princess, it'd be held against her that she wasn't English and even if she were, still, she'd be a mere princess, not heiress to any throne and therefore still of less importance. No one could in the mind of the prince of Wales be more importand than him, ever; he, the direct heir to the throne! And not to be the only one not to have a mistress! Heavens forbid! Any wife would have lost that battle with him, save for one with a mind like his and Camz's, the old fashioned aristocratic one: spouses are free to bed anyone willing, her too, once the business of heir and spare is done. Unless Charles had a different set of code, many had (have) those: he can dip his wick in anything, whilst she better stay faithful...
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2017, 10:34:27 pm »

^Indeed. I agree with you.

 Disgusting double standards society seems to have, but to me the worse thing isn't only about the code Charles would have, it's what the whole society and especially the aristocratic circles they moved in crucifying Diana for her actions. Some people like Penny Junor forgive Charles everything and villify Diana for giving as good as she got. How would any of us have managed such a situation? dontknow She was always going to be a bit on the side because she would never really belong to the BRF, not good enough for a husband who wanted to be coddled and worshiped, then the her self-esteem issues, her emotional issues, her age and emotional immatury...it's not like any girl her age in the same circumstances would've fared better.  I think many of the hardships Diana faced and yes she made a lot of mistakes but it's not like the odds were in her favour, in my opinion.
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2017, 10:15:51 pm »

Did Prince Charles remark about having two Dianas for the crowd?
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2017, 11:48:27 pm »

Yes, in Canada in 1983 at a banquet he said he needed two wives. Diana looked uncomfortable which I think something that Charles wanted. His jealousy was an issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI9n1h94lTU
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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2017, 12:47:39 pm »

Charles' ego is the single-most reason the monarchy is going down the tubes, in my opinion.   He married a young girl who became a popular face of the British monarchy.   Instead of recognizing that this benefited him and his future and treating her with respect, he whined that she did not fulfill his needs and buried himself in the bosom of another man's wife who was only too happy to manipulate him for her own ambitions.

Diana was not perfect.  She did things she should not have.  But overall, considering her age and the obstacles and stresses she faced, she rose magnificently to the challenges of being a royal princess.   The entire royal family, not just Charles, were angry that the peasants chose her over them.   

So, she was hounded out; he went against the Church and Tradition and married his mistress and is trying to turn her into a beloved figure; the public ain't buying it; there is no other person of interest in the royal family to engage the minds and hearts and interest of the public; therefore, the monarchy is going down the tubes due to lack of interest.

Way to go, Charles.  So glad you got your way, you stupid little man.       bored3
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2017, 12:59:18 pm »

^Correct.  Plus, his actions and everything that happened later created two bitter, immature and mad at the world dysfunctional sons who expect pity breaks on everything they do.
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« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2017, 07:37:55 pm »

Charles' ego is the single-most reason the monarchy is going down the tubes, in my opinion.   He married a young girl who became a popular face of the British monarchy.   Instead of recognizing that this benefited him and his future and treating her with respect, he whined that she did not fulfill his needs and buried himself in the bosom of another man's wife who was only too happy to manipulate him for her own ambitions.

How Camilla manipulated Charles? His cheating on Diana and his own jealousy issues were his own choices. And Charles himself cheated on Diana (and Camilla) with others women (in 1980s) like Janet Jenking, Eva o'neill??? (mother-in-law of Princess Madelaine) etc
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