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« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2016, 09:00:03 pm »

Absolutely. She is Head of State and should be the Head of her own Family, despite what the Duke of Edinburgh wants.

Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden made a good choice it seems in choosing a husband who is ok with being in the background. Prince Philip always has this need to lead, but he is not Sovereign, his wife is. And so they are a family divided. And it shows and will be their undoing.
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« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2016, 09:20:06 pm »

I often think that if the Duke of Edinburgh hadn't been so miserable and selfish about his position, things might have turned out differently. I NEVER understood WHY Prince Philip complained about his subordinate status, when he comes from that world. All he has had to do is be HM's muscle and be her consort and family man, but he basically whined often and perversely used it to justify the adulterous example he set for Charles to follow.

HM needs to stop being a docile wifey and should have started kicking arse and taking names a long time ago, and then siccing the courtiers on the people on said list. Then she would have a much more secure dynasty.

As for Prince Daniel, he is a JEWEL of a man. Loving husband, dedicated consort, and loves his philanthropy. Adores his babies and it's so obvious that Victoria can't get enough of him. He's not just docile as a doormat, but strong since he held on determined to make Victoria his wifey. Oh I could just squeeeee  about it all the time. The gentle giant triumphing against the odds. Their wedding was LOVE in all it's glorious forms.

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« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2016, 09:36:14 pm »

I actually believe there are things going on in the background with HM, even she has to have realised that the current situation cannot continue, for many reasons, not just the reputation of the rf.  There are the two sprogs to take into account.  The younger they are the less they will understand and whatever situation they find themselves in will seem normal to them. Far better than watching/hearing the dorks have terrible rows etc.  And sprogs pick up on the atmosphere around them, they probably have done so already, or at least sprog I will have.  I think also after this vile, disgusting article about her two favourite granddaughters will not have done council cath much good. The worm always turns, and sometimes it can take a long time coming.  This article is just no downright, bottom of the barrel nasty, unpleasant and leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.  A vicious article that the editor should have been ashamed to allow printed. The Yorks have done nothing to council cath, quite the reverse, they bullied her.  She will never understand that she will never, ever be a blood royal, she will always be a commoner, born one and will die one.  We used to wonder why the medds en masse appeared to have no friends, I believe, now, it is blatantly obviously why they have no real friends, they really are such vile people - if they ha any friends they would not keep them for long.

I think this vicious attack on the York girls will have done untold damage. As for the disgusting apology of a journalist who wrote it, she deserves never to work again.  Who would want that vicious viper in their corner.  Obviously a very bitter and twisted, overweight and unattractive woman who wants to make herself feel better by dissing other people. Wonder how much councils cath and caro paid her to write that, because I can´t see the uninitelling, brain dead journo doing something like that off her own back, she must have known, how nasty, mean, spiteful and vicious she has made herself look, and how her reputation would be shredded.  Nobody admires someone who turns out an article like that, nobody, unless of course you are councils cath or caro  -  they say like attracts like  -  100% correct in this case, vicious vipers all three of them.
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« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2016, 10:05:33 pm »


Very true Val.  It is one of the characteristics HM inherited from the QM.  I believe from reports
that this in turn had a detrimental affect on Princess Margaret at the time of the Peter Townsend
affair.  It was said that Margaret looked to her mother and sister for help and got precious little.
Only a courtier delivering a letter outlining her choices and consequences.
One aspect of the most recent diatribe against the Princesses was the photograph not seen for
some time of Waity, flat on her back, legs akimbo at the roller disco.  Hopefully the DM is slowly
but surely showing a few more glimpses of her showing what and who she is to remind people.
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« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2016, 10:35:52 pm »

Interestingly Sarah vine is the wife of Michael gove. He is a cabinet minister and a major brexiteer. He is spoken of as the next leader of the Tory party. I actually think this is a side swipe at willnot and cannot, they are meant to be grand etc. I felt some sympathy for the Yorkers as it was them who tried their best with Dave been friendly and behaving better than the midds of Cambridge.
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« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2016, 08:28:15 am »

  Who uses the DM to promote his wife. ?  Who wants to streamline the RF after HM is gone. huh    eating cookies
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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2016, 12:06:03 pm »


Stephanie - you got the ugly stepsiseter bit right!!
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« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2016, 01:19:00 pm »

Fergie has bad choices refering to dress. She can't help her daughters.
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« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2016, 10:14:34 am »

I love the York girls' style. Sometimes they don't manage to dress for their shape or for the unforgiving lens of the camera, but they have fun with clothes. Their clothes reflect their personalities.

A nice defence of them here: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/beatrice-and-eugenie-arent-frumpy-theyre-fashion-icons-who-are-reinventing-royal-style-a7056446.html

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"Beatrice and Eugenie aren't 'frumpy' – they're fashion icons and they are reinventing royal style
I admire the princesses' fearlessness when it comes to trying out new styles. Like Diana three decades before, they see clothing as something to have fun with"

Some of my favourite Beatrice looks:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1519975/thumbs/o-PRINCESS-BEATRICE-900.jpg?15

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/09/13/09/2C402D7D00000578-3232565-image-a-2_1442131651432.jpg

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/secondary/142093.jpg

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Princess+Beatrice+Princess+Eugenie+York+Launch+6bTYnTzP6Hul.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/28/article-0-1B97A50600000578-120_634x1131.jpg

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/590x/secondary/176304.jpg

And Eugenie:

https://news.artnet.com/wp-content/news-upload/2015/07/Princess-Eugenie-Frieze.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/02/05/23/30DEE23500000578-3434242-image-m-2_1454715715389.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/02/08/article-2554581-1B4A821400000578-276_634x968.jpg

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00005p3lOtWrVbQ/s/600/600/Princess-Eugenie-and-boyfriend-2505.jpg

I feel like these girls are being put in an impossible position. Charles doesn't want them in his new 'slimmed down' vision of the RF, so they're not being asked to participate in engagements - yet the media will still report on their every move, and because they won't be doing any engagements they'll be seen as lazy spongers. They're 26 and 27 but it feels like the media hasn't allowed them to have a young adulthood. As for the Ugly Stepsister comparisons, it's media bullying and whoever incited this nastiness (most likely Waity and the Viper) should be hung out to dry by the RF. Unfortunately it seems as if Waity and Willy have now been given free reign as evidenced by their £5000 helicopter trip from KP to Anmer. HM has failed to put consequences in place for Waity and the Midds' bad behaviour and now members of her own family are being viciously attacked in the media as a result.
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« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2016, 01:20:07 pm »

Charles had better utilize these 2 girls. They do a far superior job than anything The Dukes of Dork could ever do. The Dorks are a complete embarrassment and should not be let out onto the public. The Dorks are really bad news.
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2016, 02:54:11 pm »

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The York girls are genuine, can hold an intelligent conversation and interact with people in a natural and charming way.  They don't need to wave their hands, purse their lips and frantically nod their heads whilst giving staccato responses as council Cath does either.
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« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2016, 09:24:50 pm »

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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2016, 01:07:00 am »

They could work in the offices with the other courtiers and then do appearances with HM during the big stuff. Or when Kate shirks, the princesses could pick up the slack.
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« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2016, 04:23:29 am »

 They won't like that
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« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2016, 10:30:59 pm »

^Being a stand by is one thing. Being a stand-by for that lazy sack of crap is just a slap in the face.

As for style, Eugenie, who is my favorite, works bets in Viviane Westwood. Funny how I found this site and it confirmed my belief.
http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2015/03/royal-closet-raid-of-day-march-26.html
http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2011/08/gold-star-princess-beatrice-in-italy.html They both look very nice here.
http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2011/06/gold-star-beatrice-and-eugenie-at-white.html Love her in this dress.
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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2016, 12:36:58 am »

Hmm, a few year's ago I emailed HM's website, I was wondering about one of Bea's charity events. Anyways they replied that she is a civilian and any charity work  she undertakes is under her own time. Don't know if things are different now. who knows what will happen in future or what was said/promised to them. We do not know things for certain.we can only speculate, for all we know they might be working royals in  the future, but right now they have their freedoms.

I always got the impression that like their position now having the best of both worlds, and are fine with their positions in life. Their jobs seems to allow them to be on stand by for such events, I'm assuming From what we know Bea negotiated her contract very carefully, I  think her contract would have a flexible schedule for royal events.Besides whomever would hire a royal would what them to be seen rather then be hidden , I would think?

 As for the slimmed down monarchy I always thought it would happen organically the older working royals won't last forever.

As far as that horrid article the press has always bullied the York girls since they were teenagers, nothing new.
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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2016, 12:50:05 am »

In the video at the garden party, they are not even looking at kate, just talking to each other. This article has no merit at all.
http://www.gettyimages.com/videos/534789320?excludenudity=false&page=1&phrase=534789320&sort=newest#license
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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2016, 06:28:48 pm »

Eugenie and Peter Philips at a fundraiser.
Unlike Waity she does not get paid to lift a finger for others.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/de938871cbecb7f1e3b2eab8f2861a54/tumblr_o85lt8xdSo1spqo4go2_540.png
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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2016, 04:17:52 am »

Princess Eugenie goes for glamour in a black halterneck gown as she joins friends Natalie Pinkham and Holly Branson at charity fundraiser

She and her sister may be known for their love of social engagements but tonight Princess Eugenie spent the evening with friends and stars for a good cause.
The royal joined a heavily pregnant Natalie Pinkham and Isabella Calthorpe at the Hope and Homes End the Silence fundraiser in London.
And she showcased her sense of chic in a black floor-length halterneck evening gown and chic lace up shoes. 


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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2016, 07:22:29 am »

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At least we were spared the gurning Asian faced pipster and the loser cupcake.  Unusual as they usually manage to gate crash most events but then they are intensely disliked along with Waity by the group photographed.
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