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« on: November 03, 2015, 02:56:03 pm »


"In November, 2015, 100 Women in Hedge Funds announced that HRH The Countess of Wessex will serve as Global Ambassador of 100WHF’s Next Generation initiatives. Launched in January 2015, the goal of 100WHF’s most recent initiative is to inspire, mentor and provide access and peer network support to young women looking to start their careers in finance and investments."

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 03:00:29 pm »

Wasnt this something the Cambs/Harry did?

Wonder if they asked them and refused or not.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 03:10:45 pm »

Way to go, 100 Women in Hedge Funds!   What a sterling ambassador you have chosen for your group!  A woman who, in order to get a much needed cash infusion for her business sold her royal access and was then forced in a public and humiliating manner to quit.  But, come to find out, she didn't really quit (as she promised the queen) but stayed involved with the company until it finally went into bankruptcy leaving behind huge debts.   

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-countess-firm-goes-bankrupt-1039465

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1200621/Sophie-Wessex-1-7m-business-debt--won-t-pay.html

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 03:51:28 pm »

100WHF chose the ambassador they wanted, whether you like her or not. Her Majesty listened to the tapes from the sting operation, where Sophie was deliberately targeted, and forgave Sophie.  Since HM got all the facts, and we only received snippets, she had far more information to base her decision on than we do.  Sophie tried to run a business and be a working royal (working more than 130 engagement a year while running her own business) and ended up having to quit the business. She couldn't work two full-time jobs and be a wife and a mother to two young children?  How DARE she TRY , how DARE she fail?

Women in business face incredible hurdles. Are we supposed to sit here, safely anonymous behind our keyboards in judgement, and tell them that if they fail at one business they're never allowed to try again?  Do you think being successful means making mistakes and never trying again?  No wonder so many children have anxiety disorders these days, if we insist that life involves being perfect every step of the way and never learning through errors. One of the reasons why Kate Middleton is so mocked is because she refuses to TRY.

I think it is clear that Sophie has learned from her very public errors and does a great job as Perfect Royal Wife.  It takes a lot to dust yourself off so publicly, and clearly Sophie succeeded.

There was a West Wing episode about a space expedition that didn't go as planned. The President kept looking for "the broader theme" while they were going to cancel the classroom event because the mission had "failed".  CJ gave one of those great West Wing speeches in response.

"We have, at our disposal, a captive audience of schoolchildren. Some of them don't go to the black board and raise their hand 'cause they think they're gonna be wrong. I think you should say to these kids you think you get it wrong sometimes, you should come down here and see how the big boys do it. I think you should tell them you haven't given up hope, and that it may turn up, but in the meantime, you want NASA to put its best people in the room, and you want them to start building Galileo VI. Some of them will laugh, and most of them won't care, but for some, they might honestly see that it's about going to the blackboard and raising your hand. And that's the broader theme."

 
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 04:31:29 pm »

It is a myth that Sophie was intentionally targeted in the undercover sting.  Her partner was the target and no one was more surprised than Mahmood to see Sophie showing up at a meeting with Harkin:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1315057/How-the-Countess-was-caught-out-by-mistake.html

". . . In fact, The Telegraph understands, Mr Mahmood's intended prey was Mr Harkin. Several weeks previously, the News of the World had been approached by Kishan Athulathmudali, 32, a Sri Lankan-born account manager at R-JH. He worked closely with the Countess organising a number of her trips abroad to promote clients' businesses. During his 18 months at R-JH's Mayfair offices he was a valued and trusted member of staff. But he made a series of allegations about the firm and Mr Harkin. Mr Mahmood's stated intention was to confront the Countess's partner, not her. However, he is said to have been more than surprised when Mr Harkin turned up for the bogus meeting accompanied by the Countess and her personal protection officer. . . ."

 Furthermore, when she first married, up until some time after she was forced to resign from her PR company, Sophie was NOT a working royal. She emphasized the point during her engagement that she would be a career woman. And not turning up at hospitals like Diana.   She accompanied Edward to dinners, theater, lunches, etc. (fun stuff) which was good for her PR business as it raised her profile and was free advertising.  It didn't require any work on her part and dovetailed nicely with her PR work.

Sophie is very much like Sarah Ferguson.  But because the Queen decided to protect her, no matter what she did [as she has Andrew], Sophie has managed to stay afloat.  She is more luck than accomplishment, in my opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 04:55:54 pm »

Someone targeted her firm for a sting operation. That amounts to the same thing in my mind.  They tried to be private citizens, and when the firm needed them and ASKED for their helped, they agreed. They are prime assets of the British Royal Family and will be for years to come.

Sophie has been named an ambassador for an inventive, forward-thinking association of accomplished business women. They know who she is, they know her past, and they have selected her as their global ambassador for the next three years. They have selected her to be a role model and advocate for the next generation of young business women. That speaks volumes about how they see her and her history, missteps and all.  I think Sophie will, as usual, perform an excellent job in her role for them.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 07:46:39 pm »

Sophie hasn't been an independent business woman for a long time and briefly, she had the best of both worlds. She blew it by selling royal info like Fergie and she's the best the charities have since the RF isn't loaded with royal women who have professional pasts and a high profile.

Way to go, 100 Women in Hedge Funds!   What a sterling ambassador you have chosen for your group!  A woman who, in order to get a much needed cash infusion for her business sold her royal access and was then forced in a public and humiliating manner to quit.  But, come to find out, she didn't really quit (as she promised the queen) but stayed involved with the company until it finally went into bankruptcy leaving behind huge debts.   

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-countess-firm-goes-bankrupt-1039465
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1200621/Sophie-Wessex-1-7m-business-debt--won-t-pay.html

It is a myth that Sophie was intentionally targeted in the undercover sting.  Her partner was the target and no one was more surprised than Mahmood to see Sophie showing up at a meeting with Harkin:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1315057/How-the-Countess-was-caught-out-by-mistake.html

". . . In fact, The Telegraph understands, Mr Mahmood's intended prey was Mr Harkin. Several weeks previously, the News of the World had been approached by Kishan Athulathmudali, 32, a Sri Lankan-born account manager at R-JH. He worked closely with the Countess organising a number of her trips abroad to promote clients' businesses. During his 18 months at R-JH's Mayfair offices he was a valued and trusted member of staff. But he made a series of allegations about the firm and Mr Harkin. Mr Mahmood's stated intention was to confront the Countess's partner, not her. However, he is said to have been more than surprised when Mr Harkin turned up for the bogus meeting accompanied by the Countess and her personal protection officer. . . ."

 Furthermore, when she first married, up until some time after she was forced to resign from her PR company, Sophie was NOT a working royal. She emphasized the point during her engagement that she would be a career woman. And not turning up at hospitals like Diana.   She accompanied Edward to dinners, theater, lunches, etc. (fun stuff) which was good for her PR business as it raised her profile and was free advertising.  It didn't require any work on her part and dovetailed nicely with her PR work.

Sophie is very much like Sarah Ferguson.  But because the Queen decided to protect her, no matter what she did [as she has Andrew], Sophie has managed to stay afloat.  She is more luck than accomplishment, in my opinion.

I think Sophie enjoyed having the best of both worlds and basically had to quit her work after that mess she made. She enjoys HM's protection, but I wonder how on earth Sophie has HM's eternal indulgence.
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 08:05:30 pm »

I don't agree that Sophie did the same thing as Sarah. Sarah willingly and knowingly sold access to her ex-husband. Sophie (or her company) was targetted by a sleazy journalist (wasn't it someone from the Rupert Murdoch empire?) and she fell for it. Not smart, definitely not smart. But not in the same category as Sarah in my opinion.

As for her position with the 100 women in hedgefunds...I think she is a better match than Kate. And unlike Kate, she will most likely pay attention to the organisation throughout the year and not just once a year during a gala.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 08:14:44 pm »

Is it not rather a slap in the face for waity that she hasn't been chosen given her past connections with WHF?
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 08:22:53 pm »

The 'fake Sheikh' who stung both Sophie and Fergie (and Princess Michael as well) was the same person from the News of the World. Used a different name each time of course but did claim to be a sheikh and it worked three times. Fergie, by the time she fell for it was outside the protection of the royal family while both Sophie and Princess Michael were inside it giving them greater protection and support. It was the trigger, however, for Sophie and Edward being convinced to become full time royals in time for the Golden Jubilee in 2002. As far as I remember Sophie, nor Princess Michael, were actually paid as they really thought they were having a private conversation with a foreign royal while Sarah, again not paid directly, appears to have offered to access to Andrew for money during the interview.

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2015, 09:57:28 pm »

Sophie, just like Sarah, sold royal access in return for money.  In Sarah's case, it was cash; in Sophie's case it was to gain new clients' fees for her business.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/apr/08/monarchy.focus

". . . Believing she had 'sealed a deal', Sophie then went back to her South Audley Street offices prior to a lunch engagement. She thought she had secured £20,000 a month for two years from the sheikh, almost half a million pounds in business from a morning's work. . ."


". . . Kishen Athulathmudali, an employee of the Countess of Wessex's Mayfair PR firm R-JH, telephoned Max Clifford, the veteran public relations expert. The account director claimed that R-JH was using Sophie's royal connections to boost its client list.  Clifford approached the Mail on Sunday with the story but when the paper's chief reporter Fiona Barton met Athulathmudali she decided that his claims were not interesting enough to pursue. So Clifford went to the News of the World. Athulathmudali was introduced to Mazher Mahmood, the paper's veteran investigations editor who specialises in 'sting' operations, often dressing as an Arab sheikh in order to entrap criminals.  Mahmood became convinced that R-JH was offering 'coronets-for-cash', pledges of meetings with members of the royal family or invitations to state events in return for business. It was also suggested that potential new clients were being cold-called with invitations to dinner at Bagshot Park, the country home of Edward and Sophie. . . "

Kate is not a good ambassador for 100 women in hedgefunds because she has never held a job.  Sophie is not a good ambassador for 100 women in hedgefunds because while she did work as a young woman, the business she started once she became known as the queen's son's girlfriend, went bankrupt, and was rumored to be quite mediocre, riding on the association of Sophie's royal connections.

The best ambassador for 100 women in hedgefunds -- if they are wanting a royal connection -- would be Anne or Zara.  Both worked hard at Olympic equestrianne careers and Anne is running a working farm.  Zara is still competing and developing other businesses.   Either would be better than Kate/Sophie, in my opinion.   And there's always Victoria Beckham. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2015, 10:16:21 pm »

discuss this topic on the other thread because this one is mostly off topic.
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