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« Reply #260 on: January 01, 2016, 05:59:10 pm »

So between 3 allegedly "senior royals", the best they did between them for the whole year was 292 engagements. And why on earth the DM has bill medd down for 35 overseas tours is beyond me.  He went to China and then his what I consider to be private engagement re the wildlife conservation, as it sure isn´t for the benefit of the British taxpayer is it. Why are we bothered about conservation in Africa when bill medd and his family blast birds, deer, etc for fun at Balmoral or wherever they can go to hunt.  Let us not mention the fox hunting they still do which is illegal.  Shooting wild boar in Spain.

The alleged heir to the heir of the throne appears to have carried out 87 UK engagements  plus his alleged "35 overseas tours".  Last time I used my brain China and Switzerland amounted to 2 overseas tours, no matter how many meet and greets he did.  Which in the DM gives a total of 122 engagements.

Cath medd managed 62 UK engagements, but if you look on the thread on here for the Uk engagements for her they total 23 solo and 19 with bill medd  = 42 engagements so what were the other 20 in the tally  -  toilet breaks, crotch presses.

Bill medd, from the same thread on here, appears to have managed 29 engagements solo (including the 2 "overseas tours") one 1-4 March), plus the 19 with cath medd making a total of 48 engagements.  Again, what makes up the figures, toilet breaks, crotch pressing, jaw clenching, shaking hands, having lunch  -  because to me all that is part and parcel of the one tour.

Therefore, in the thread on here, the total between the two is 90 engagements.

Now we can see why the rf pad it all out, because if you look at the true figure between the two it is appalling  -  90 engagements for the whole of 2015.  Can we remind ourselves of how much this odious couple and their two sprogs cost us taxpayers  -  upkeep for AH and KP, the cars they drive, the helicopter granny gave bill medd to use, and the whole army of office staff, garden staff, car mainentance, fuel etc., clothing for them all, hair does, face lifts, tombstone teeth, you name it, right down to the last nappy we pay for that lot.  And all we get in return is that lazy, useless duo for 90 engagements for the whole of one year.  Unbelievable.

They really must be laughing all the way to the bank on our money mustn´t they.
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« Reply #261 on: January 01, 2016, 06:36:04 pm »

The way the UK counts the engagements is just weird. And 35 seems about right.
William arriving in Beijing, welcomed by the UK ambassador: 1 engagement
William being greeted by the Chinese PM: 1 engagement
William laying a wreath: 1 engagement
William having dinner with the president: 1 engagement

Fir the Dutch royals it would be just one engagement: first day of the official visit/ state visit.
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« Reply #262 on: January 01, 2016, 09:52:29 pm »

It is so wrong though.  One overseas tour is just that. To cound a hand shake here and there as an engagement is laughable.  The British rf are so undated it is untrue.  Can we assume then that Princess Anne, with her top score of engagements, did an awful lot of hand shaking to get her numbers up  easter-lol easter-lol
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« Reply #263 on: January 02, 2016, 12:43:27 am »

The Windsors have become the most try-hard dynasty among royalty today. Ironic since they used to be top of the heap and didn't have to try at all.

The way the UK counts the engagements is just weird. And 35 seems about right.
William arriving in Beijing, welcomed by the UK ambassador: 1 engagement
William being greeted by the Chinese PM: 1 engagement
William laying a wreath: 1 engagement
William having dinner with the president: 1 engagement

Fir the Dutch royals it would be just one engagement: first day of the official visit/ state visit.

If this is how they tally engagements, no wonder the numbers are so vast. Each little thing is counted as work.
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« Reply #264 on: January 02, 2016, 01:41:32 am »

This tally is not done by the royals themselves but by a retired gentleman named Mr O'Donovan. He started doing his tally while working back in the early 1980s and his way has become the norm.

The way the CC is recorded is the same way it has been recorded since it was created in the reign of George III.

Counting each individual event on one day makes sense in one way e.g.

William is received by the Chinese PM, attends a dinner, attends a reception and attends a presentation all on one day. Is that the same as Andrew attending a meeting on the same day. All Andrew did was attend a meeting while William did four different things that probably took place at four different places as well. Should both be credited with one engagement or should there be a way of saying that William did more on that day?

As for days worked - William undertook engagements on 53 days to Harry's 59 but Harry often did one thing on a day while William did two or three.

The 'overseas tours' comment by Mr O'Donovan isn't the number of actual tours but the number of engagements on that tour - counted the same way as he did with engagements at home.
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« Reply #265 on: January 03, 2016, 08:07:39 pm »

There is a difference between doing a visit for ex to Cambridge and doing a couple of things there which for the CC counts as various events.

In your example for William it makes sense to count different jobs done in mine it doesn't.
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« Reply #266 on: January 03, 2016, 11:20:51 pm »

If I am understanding you correctly then all you want to really count is days on which they undertake engagements and not how many different things they do each day when they do engagements.

So Harry going to the football is the same as Charles attending three meetings, a reception, a lunch and a dinner. To me Charles did way more than Harry but if only days worked is counted then they have done the same amount.

The CC has always listed all the events -  but also does them differently e.g. if they attend the events in different places they are listed separately but if there are three or four things done at the one place e.g. visited a hospital, met staff and patients, toured a new facility and then opened the new facility - that is all detailed but counted as one engagement by Mr O'Donovan. One place although multiple things done there = one engagement. If it is visited a hospital and then went to a school and met staff and students and then went to the church to open the new hall - that is three engagements as they moved around.

I think we have to agree to disagree on days on which they worked as the only criteria.

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« Reply #267 on: January 04, 2016, 05:04:16 pm »

Duchess Kate had the fewest public events of the ‘working royals’ in 2015

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As predicted, the Duchess of Cambridge had the fewest number of royal events for 2015. The 2015 tally came out a few days ago, and of course Kate was the least-working member of the limited “working royals,” which consist of Charles, Camilla, the Queen, Philip, Anne, Kate, William and Harry. Out of that group, guess who had the most events in 2015? No, not the Queen, although Ol’ Liz did work one’s royal bum off, so much so that her tally is more than Will, Kate and Harry’s tallies combined. No, the most-active royals were Anne, the Princess Royal, and the Prince of Wales, in that order. Anne did 456 engagements in 2015!! My God. The Princess Royal is such a workhorse.

http://www.celebitchy.com/463389/duchess_kate_had_the_fewest_public_events_of_the_working_royals_in_2015/
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