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Author Topic: Proclamation of King Felipe 18-19th June 2014  (Read 3505 times)
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2014, 06:33:00 pm »

She should be dressed a lot more conservatively, lower hemline and so should the little princesses, bluntly put.

Her hemline is well below the knee, just as low as that of Queen Sofia. How much conservative do you need?

As for 9-5 Queen, Queen Maxima only has had one after-5 royal function these two weeks; attending the football game against Australia yesterday. So I guess that in your point of view, Queen Maxima is a 9-5 Queen as well.
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2014, 08:28:37 pm »

simple ceremony done with much dignity - very good.  They look like a very loving and close family - the girls were so well behaved although looked a bit awed by all the attention.

Reflects well on the Spanish nation -
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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2014, 09:11:08 pm »

Mrs Plastic face got what she wanted. Careful what you wish for, they say. Enjoy it while you can, Letizia. You still don't know what you signed yourself up for.
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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 10:01:11 pm »

Forgive my ignorance but is being sworn-in the same as being crowned? Will there be a coronation at a later date or is this the only ceremony that will take place? Thank you!

I think the Infantas look absolutely adorable no matter what they wear aww - I'll have to watch a video before I pass judgement on their behaviour though, but they're both still very young - I'm sure they'll learn as they get older.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2014, 03:21:30 am »

No, this is it; because of economy and the trend of a 'streamlined' monarchy that eschews the genuine grandeur of a genuinely regal coronation. Of course, considering her past I think it's just as well really.

Mrs Plastic face got what she wanted. Careful what you wish for, they say. Enjoy it while you can, Letizia. You still don't know what you signed yourself up for.

Any bets that she's going to fail at being there for her husband? The monarchy is in a fragile state and certainly, she should (better) make it a point to be there as much as she possibly can for her husband and kids and make sure she's there for all of them.
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2014, 07:16:33 am »

No, this is it; because of economy and the trend of a 'streamlined' monarchy that eschews the genuine grandeur of a genuinely regal coronation.

Already in the Spanish Constitution of 1978 a coronation was no longer a possibility. So it has nothing to do with streamlining the monarchy or with the present economic situation.
A Coronation automatically means a political role (crowning the Head of State) for members of the clergy. Since Spain knows a full separation of church and state, a coronation was not longer a possibility.

The only crowned monarch in Europe (and probably the world, I don't think the Japanese Emperor is crowned) is Queen Elizabeth II and as we know, the UK has no separation of church and state.

As for grandeur, if you have paid attention to the Dutch enthronement ceremony, you would know that the absence of a coronation doesn't automatically mean the absence of grandeur. In this respect the economic situation does play a role, had the Spanish economy been better, there might have been a bit more grandeur. At the same time, the form and shape of the passing of the throne in The Netherlands is very much different from that in Spain when it comes to location, the amount of time in which everything had to be arranged. But also in the guests invited.
In that respect, the Spanish ceremony resembles the Belgian ceremony of last July much more; no foreign royal guests, taking place within the House of Parliament and being arranged in a short(er) period of time.
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2014, 09:13:47 am »

It's true though, isn't it, that long before the Spanish Constitution of 1978, there was no crowning of Spanish monarchs? Few, if any, since medieval times, that is? I believe Charles wants a Coronation stripped of some of the pomp and ritual, when he is crowned. No State Coach, for example.
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2014, 09:19:14 am »

I thought Juan Carlos was the first not to be crowned, but according to Wikipedia the last formal crowning of a Spanish monarch was Eleanor of Navarra in 1479.
After that, Spanish monarchs have been proclaimed, at first in a religious ceremony but since the 18th century in the Cortes, the Spanish parliament.

So indeed...the crowning of Spanish monarchs is something from way, way back.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2014, 10:30:52 am »

I love the history lessons I get on this forum.
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2016, 06:50:35 pm »

The speaker of the lower house of Parliament, Jesus Posada, proclaimed Felipe VI king by declaring: "Long live Spain! Long live the king!"   
"Long live the king!" has been used in countries like England and France. With the proclamation in Spain, this is the first time I have known that a country's name is announced before "Long live the king!" is uttered.
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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2017, 10:34:42 pm »

I doubt any in parliament have any decent knowledge of protocol, well maybe not even the royal staff know considering all their fails.
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