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« on: March 31, 2014, 12:11:28 am »

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/30/prince-charles-westminster-campaign-strip-special-legal-privileges
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Bill to propose removing privileges such as tax exemptions, powers of veto and immunity from planning and other legislation

Prince Charles is facing a Westminster campaign to strip him and his estate of special privileges including tax exemptions, a power of veto over new laws and immunity from legislation covering everything from squatting to planning.

A radical bill is to be put before the House of Lords proposing to remove special treatment of the prince and the Duchy of Cornwall, his inherited £800m estate that provides him with a £19m a year private income.

The move, by the old-Etonian Labour peer Lord Berkeley, also exposes little-known exemptions from laws enforced on everyone else by at least eight acts of parliament.

In his capacity as the Duke of Cornwall, the prince cannot be prosecuted for breaches of planning laws such as building without permission or breaking the terms of planning consents, which would normally attract fines of up to £50,000. The prince's estate also enjoys an exemption from people registering land under squatters' rights or other forms of "adverse possession" until they have occupied it for 60 years, compared with 10 years for other landowners. Neither is it obliged to allow Duchy leaseholders to buy their freeholds.

"It is time for parliament to consider the increasingly urgent matter of the Prince of Wales's status and to modernise this medieval situation," Berkeley said. "The government and duchy both say the duchy is in the private sector yet it pays voluntary tax, gets free advice from government lawyers and has exemptions from legislation that applies to other private sector bodies."
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 01:45:32 am »

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If the House of Lords is going after him, led by a titled Lord, Charles has obviously lost the support of the aristocracy, the very people who normally support him. I sincerely believe that the aristocracy is being smart about all of this; Charles is out of control and has to be reined in and this is the best way to do it.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 01:51:34 am »

he is a Lord who is a member of the Labor party so the Tory Lords may have the ability to stop this bill from passing - one Lord does not the loss of the aristocracy make - but it is a telling moment.  And about time.

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 02:13:44 am »

Yet, the House of Lords is supposed to be the first place for the RF to rely on, not the place where such bills originate. There must be a lot of ticked off Lords who are loathing the way teh monarchy is being run right into the ground and their heritage is being threatened. If the monarchy keeps this up, there will be a republic and who knows where it will end. One thing if things end and the aristocrats keep their ancestral lands, but if a radical group gets into control, then all ti takes is the right type of fanatic to suggest that the aristocrats lose their estates through radicalized confiscation. It has happened in the past in other nations and it can happen again.

I see the Lords acting together to get the monarchy under genuine control and curb them before the RF goes clear over the cliff and goes too far. It's obvious that they think Charles has gone utterly mad and as a result, see him antagonizing everyone around him and want to act now before a more radical PM gets into office. I really admire how the aristocrats are acting in such a forward manner and how they are sending a message to the RF that they're not going to let the RF trash the country that they (Windsors) barely pay attention to. Charles has shown he can't be trusted with his privileges.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 02:56:45 am »

going after people's lands undermines all property rights so I doubt this will happen anyway most of the guys in the House of Lords lost their "ancestral lands" generations ago -
but it is true that the down fall of the monarchy will be orchestrated by a dissatisfied upper class - and if the sort of shenanigans PC is doing with the Duchy are a theat - they will chastise him - here is hoping the bill has a chance
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 10:00:52 am »

He must have done something really outlandish to end up triggering this act against him, but the very aristocrats of his class.

Maybe the peers are irate about the very real possibility of the RF losing Scotland; if Scotland breaks away, that means that the English peers will lose their Scottish titles. Might well be that the aristocrats are irate that the RF isn't pulling their weight and genuinely working to preserve the Union.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 03:41:54 pm »

If something happens to come from this: good.

The Monarchy needs to be put in their place.  And the tax situation is ridiculous.  You can't claim corporate exemptions as a private person, which Chuck does.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2014, 11:46:45 pm »

The Monarchy needs to be put in their place.

thankyou I completely agree; let the Windsors face actual boundaries and be expected to abide by them. Charles has been double dipping and he has no business having it both ways anymore. The RF tells people their place with no hesitation, let them learn theirs.
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