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« Reply #120 on: June 29, 2017, 10:59:29 am »

^ I tend to agree, though many make the right decision in their twenties, but I would love to raise an age limit to 25 and no younger for getting married, because even more run head-on into sth they absolutely have no clue about; James Stunt though has always come across like a total prat and Bernie never liked him. He must have been like this before she married him, they dated long enough, so why marry a guy who's a total p*ick? Though I admit that men sometimes become abusive and controlling after the wedding, or sometimes after the birth of the first child, so it can come as a surprise.. James though doesn't seem to have changed all that much and looks like he's always been an a*se and no one (not even Bernie) knows or can figure out how he made his money/ billions, it's all a bit bizarre with this guy..

I hope Tamara and Jay make it, they do seem like a nice couple I think  dontknow
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Real Madrid superstar Cristiano Ronaldo confirms the birth of his twin boys via a surrogate mother

    Cristiano Ronaldo has welcomed the birth of twin boys via a surrogate mother
    The 32-year-old confirmed the news just hours after Portugal's defeat to Chile
    Ronaldo will return home from the Confederations Cup to meet his new sons
    He will now miss Portugal's third-place play-off against Germany or Mexico


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4649130/Cristiano-Ronaldo-confirms-birth-twin-boys.html

Anyone any thoughts on this or Ronaldo? I don't follow football stars at all, but whenever I see a video of Ronaldo he just screams "gay" to me. In pics I can put him down as Beckham-like "meterosexual" *shudder*, but in videos he doesn't seem, let's say, masculine at all. I don't mind him using surrogates if he's gay and wants to be a young father, but with his alleged girlfriend being allegedly pregnant and him being supposedly straight it is odd to go about it this way, instead of finding a woman and settling down.
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« Reply #121 on: July 03, 2017, 12:48:59 pm »

^I hope the children grow up healthy and happy and yes, I do think he's gay which is absolutely fine.

On the matter however, I have much to say and no place to say it because people frequently misunderstand my concerns so I hope I can unburden myself because it's a matter that really has me concerned, I'm full of doubts about this matter, I thank you if you chose to read this further and perhaps help me find answers...

I don't think I agree with surrogacy except for the cases in which you prove you can't have children any other way for health reasons and even then, I'm not enterily sure where I stand in this because it transforms women into mere incubators with absolute disregard about the dignity that should be inherent to human beings. It's all very right regarding our own reproductive rights and everybody should have the right to be a parent if they so choose it, but what about the rights of the children born from this, aren't we robbing them of their rights to have  a mother not just a progenitor? Also, people argue that if the women offer to be surrogates, all is fine, but is it really? I'm not sure it is...because there is some connection between a pregnant woman and her baby. Besides, isn't there any limit to what's ethical regarding science? I mean, now surrogates...what is going to be next step? Something close to the disgusting nazi ideology such as genetically choosing the features of our children so we create "the perfect" human being? I mean isn't there a limit? Are human beings another "good" to be bought and transactioned? What about several women in underdeveloped countries (such as India and Thailand)who accept being surrogates in exchange for shelter, food and a bit of medical care, can we really claim they're doing it out of their free will or are they being coerced into it, because they wouldn't have a decent chance at life any other way?  Is all acceptable and morally correct as long as there is Money to pay for it?  dontknow
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« Reply #122 on: July 04, 2017, 12:43:55 am »

I think that surrogacy is kind of disgusting since you're using another human as a brood mare. There are THOUSANDS of kids who don't have families that would LOVE to have parents, why not adopt and make things a lot easier?

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^ I tend to agree, though many make the right decision in their twenties, but I would love to raise an age limit to 25 and no younger for getting married, because even more run head-on into sth they absolutely have no clue about; James Stunt though has always come across like a total prat and Bernie never liked him. He must have been like this before she married him, they dated long enough, so why marry a guy who's a total p*ick? Though I admit that men sometimes become abusive and controlling after the wedding, or sometimes after the birth of the first child, so it can come as a surprise.. James though doesn't seem to have changed all that much and looks like he's always been an a*se and no one (not even Bernie) knows or can figure out how he made his money/ billions, it's all a bit bizarre with this guy..

If you can't find out how they make their money, they're going to be nothing but trouble. Shady knowledge means shady sources of money; it is your business if you get attached to someone and might marry them and I think the daughter didn't listen to that inner warning that he was bad news.
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« Reply #123 on: July 13, 2017, 11:33:49 pm »

^^ I meant to reply ages ago, but forgot!

Well, I think you write soundly about the ethical aspect of surrogacy and I have wondered the same at times. It can (as anything really) become very abusive towards women who have no money and then have to sell their bodies to finance basics. It can be dangerous territory, but that applies to many a thing in life, from medicine, to technology, science in general, trade... It all brings blessings and curses.

I see it as a blessing. Yes, adoption is always there, but if we are honest most people desire for a biological child and that's simply something primal that's ingrained into us. It is so we "live on", leave a "legacy" and spread our genes. And I welcome possibilities that allow people to make their dreams come true to overcome infertility (just as I see adoption as a wonderful thing btw, but in many countries the road to adoption is stonier than escaping to the US or wherever and pay a woman off to carry a kid for you; adoption needs a major overhaul to become easier. A woman I know wanted to adopt and the state was so difficult that it became impossible and they stopped the process, even though they are a loving & financially settled couple and there are plenty kids starved of a good home & love in orphanages).

Also gay couples or single people. The nuclear family is imo without a shadow of a doubt the best way, but it doesn't work out that way always and when not meeting the right partner in time then I see no problem with doing it single-handedly, like Monica Cruz for example.
I have zero objections with Ronaldo going this way, as posted earlier, if he's gay and wants to be a young father. And he totally sets off my gaydar. The whole thing is just so bloody weird. Now his "girlfriend" seems to be pregnant and it's all so jumbled and weird as heck. Why deprive his 3 kids a mother if he's hetero and young, there's still plenty of time to settle down. Instead they tell the boy some confusing stuff like "you have two mothers", "your mother is dead" and whatnot. Disturbing, weird and damaging to the kid(s). And supposedly his gf used to be a nanny to twins, don't know if true, but kind of fits into the whole weirdly disturbing circus.

Some also writing how he's under the thumb of his mother (and sister to an extent) and procreating this way to fulfill her "granny wish", which doesn't make it any better.

If you're gay and want to be a young parent or single hetero and older and don't think you're going to meet the right person in time, then I'm totally on board with surrogacy. But doing it to "preserve" your hot body (like some h'weird doctor claims that many celeb women do surrogacy to not "damage" their bodies and pretend to be pregnant, and Beyonce is guilty as hell of this, except the twins she seems to have carried after the disaster with Blue and guess what, after Blue she was back in a month or 2 for some sexy shoot, with the twins she's hidden away. Amal Clooney I bet everything on has also used a surrogate, she was just too damn skinny throughout and after rumours started she disappeared out of the spotlight) or do it because you're bored or whatever the heck it is, is wrong. Children should ideally have a father and mother, or at least two parents.

Proving that you need surrogacy for health reasons isn't too bad an idea, but might be too restrictive still for some people who'd need it to become bio parents. It sure is a mine field in terms of ethics and there aren't many right (or wrong) answers I'm afraid.

^ Sadly though KF many people abuse others as a brood mare (or stallion) even the natural way. Many women getting pregnant deliberately for all the wrong reasons and men too impregnating women for all the wrong reasons and since we're here on a royal forum I'll just mention the Windsors and Charles & Diana...
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« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2017, 08:11:01 pm »

Beyonce is already back in public a month after "giving birth" in high heels, now I think this was a surrogacy too just much better hidden and prepared
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4697094/Beyonce-steps-date-night-Jay-Z-LA.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/16/42566B4500000578-4697094-Beyonce_looked_sensational_as_she_stepped_out_with_husband_Jay_Z-m-17_1500044663681.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/16/4256795A00000578-4697094-So_glam_The_35_year_old_singer_wore_a_pastel_corset_skirt_with_b-m-20_1500044891094.jpg

She even changed shoes and I don't know which pair is worse.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/19/4258C39200000578-4697094-image-a-54_1500058142029.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/16/4256690A00000578-4697094-image-m-51_1500046334405.jpg

I just don't believe that a woman who's given birth a month ago to twins (with complications apparently, at leas the twins needed after care) would leave the house like this and in shoes like these. With almost (seemingly) no belly. And women still bleed at this stage and she wears a skirt like this.

Maybe I'm alone in thinking like this  dontknow
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« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2017, 04:28:12 am »

^I agree. Something in the milk isn't clean.
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« Reply #126 on: July 15, 2017, 04:48:43 am »

This is why a surrogate is possible:
https://www.whattoexpect.com/first-year/month-by-month/your-body-postpartum-week1.aspx

No way should Beyonce (or a certain someone) be wearing a short skirt and looking very tidy down there.
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