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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 03:56:57 pm »

 thankyou  Mods I knew there was a thread somewhere but I couldn't locate it.   thankyou
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2014, 02:17:31 pm »

The Chris Spivey blog has some interesting articles on this case but beware of the language!

The rantings of a foul mouthed holocaust denier doesn't have much validity
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2015, 07:40:53 am »

Maybe one day we will know whether this is the truth or not.

According to her parents, Madeleine McCann was abducted on May 3rd 2007.

According to the article below it wasn't like that at all.
Madeleine was allegedly not abducted.

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/rip-madeleine-mccann/

The public have always hoped she was alive, well and being cared for people who wanted her and loved her.  If there is any truth in the above it is beyond comprehension.
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2015, 08:19:21 am »

Maybe one day we will know whether this is the truth or not.

According to her parents, Madeleine McCann was abducted on May 3rd 2007.

According to the article below it wasn't like that at all.
Madeleine was allegedly not abducted.

https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/rip-madeleine-mccann/

The public have always hoped she was alive, well and being cared for people who wanted her and loved her.  If there is any truth in the above it is beyond comprehension.

I think the McCann parents and their legal representatives should read that article. And act.
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2015, 11:09:13 am »

As you know (or some of you), i am portuguese. I've followed this case very closely and all that was strange.

Wheh they found out theur girl missed, they went to a church (portuguese police was never allowed to investigate this place) and called to England to make a conference next morning. Her mother went to take sun bath and even made her own make up to the conference. What a strange way to react to a kidnapping ....
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2015, 11:34:50 am »

As you know (or some of you), i am portuguese. I've followed this case very closely and all that was strange.

Wheh they found out theur girl missed, they went to a church (portuguese police was never allowed to investigate this place) and called to England to make a conference next morning. Her mother went to take sun bath and even made her own make up to the conference. What a strange way to react to a kidnapping ....

I have no opinion about Mrs McCann's behaviour. What I am upset, disgusted and revolted by are accusations by an anonymous person that Madeleine's parents were involved in satanist activities and sacrifice of their daughter, without any particle of  proof offered, whatsover. In my view that article is libelous in the extreme, and I hope something is done.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2015, 08:01:10 pm »

^^  Yes, a lot odd from start to finish. Strange the papers have not come up with a story saying the McCanns are outraged, lawyer is on the case etc.  Coleman is not a fool, he knows the law, and would be well aware that if it was all lies he has laid himself wide open to libel action against him.  What he says could be true, 50/50 either way, and as all we know is what the newspapers and McCanns chose to tell us is what they wanted to put out there in the public domain  -  how do we know that is true.  How do we know they were not involved in sordid rituals.  The rf are, and we never get told about them in the press.  A lot of people covering up for the McCanns in high places, and that pr man was rushed down to Portugal at great speed to be their spokesperson.  How many other people with an abducted child get the government sending down a pr guru for them?

Too many things don´t add up, and it would not surprise me one bit if Coleman is telling the truth.  One way to find out, write to him and ask him.   If I wanted further information I would write to Coleman direct and ask him how he knows all this and does he have proof/evidence.  As Coleman writing and posting it is none of my business and has nothing to do with me I shall not be communicating with him.  I am with you memyselfandroyals, too many odd events and many, many things that do not add up  -  and that photofit that was released, well, what can we say, not even a nose on it, just a face shape and some hair, very descriptive and helpful - not.   Also the little matter of Kate not answering the questions the Portuguese police wanted to ask her.  If they were totally innocent and their daughter was abducted they had nothing to hide, not a thing, so why not just answer the questions. And so it went on.  And here we are, 8 years later, and no further forward as to where Madeliene is or might be.

Is the Coleman article the truth?  Who knows, but if he is telling great big fat lies then the McCanns will soon be on his tail, and so they should be.  I would be on him like a flash in their position and sue the a$$ off him if he is lying.

memyselfandroyals, I found this site on the internet a while back, it is quite an interesting read if you care to click into it.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id191.html

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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2015, 08:08:19 pm »

Still haven't read the controversial article posted here, but haven't the parents already being suspected from the start?
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2015, 08:15:45 pm »

Pretty much so.  The link I posted is pretty good, I found it well worth a read and quite interesting, especially after the distance between the kidnapping and now.  Many were clouded by emotion at the time, including me. As with a lot of situations, many things can become a lot clearer and we can see what was in front of our eyes all the time with hindsight.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2015, 08:22:46 pm »

Ok I read it.

And I can see how it can be controversial for the UK members but this was spoken about when the kidnapping happened in the spanish press and I'm sure that in the portuguese too.

Not exactly like that though. One theory is that the parents killed her. Probably due to an accident (they supposedly used drugs to help them sleep). And another said that a alleged pedophile ring got her.
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2015, 08:33:27 pm »

It is my personal opinion that unless Madeleine (or her remains) are ever found then we will never know the truth. The only people right now who know the real truth about the abduction of Madeleine are the family. Who knows what Coleman researched and found, but if it is all lies then I feel pretty sure the McCanns will sue the a$$ off him, and rightly so.  I have no problem with Coleman or his articles, but he is a silly man if he is putting a load of lies out there, he will lose all credibility for his other stories.  I would really like to think that he has more sense than to post such lies and get himself into very hot water.

I know the link I posted was from when it all started, but from what I have read along the way I don´t think the opinions of many who believe she was killed have changed that much, there is not evidence to prove otherwise is there.

I would love to think she is alive, well, loved and cared for, but that is maybe a fairy tale dream I have.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2015, 11:12:05 am »

^ Thank you for the site. It was interesting to read. I have not known a lot of things.
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2015, 02:00:17 pm »

Rosela,

This is a forum, everyone is allowed to speak. What i said is well said (investigate if you want to). I never talked in satanist activities. What was said was they to to church.

Yes, gingerboy, we will never know. Poor girl. BTW, thanks for the link easter-egg-basket


Alex, theis parents were interrogated. When they realized their position was very frigile, they flew to UK.

Sad case this one, Sad Case.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2015, 02:26:41 pm »

Rosela,

This is a forum, everyone is allowed to speak. What i said is well said (investigate if you want to). I never talked in satanist activities. What was said was they to to church.

Yes, gingerboy, we will never know. Poor girl. BTW, thanks for the link easter-egg-basket


Alex, theis parents were interrogated. When they realized their position was very frigile, they flew to UK.

Sad case this one, Sad Case.
I was speaking about the disgusting Coleman article not attacking you or anyone else but The writer. The parents spent a lot of time in Portugal.
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2015, 10:23:20 am »

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/

This is a very interesting site, a lot of anomalies are investigated in depth. I don't think I know anybody whi believes the parents or a parent were not involved. And there's a lot of confusion and anger as to why the police are wasting money chasing ridiculous leads but don't seem to be following the obvious ones.
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2015, 11:28:28 am »

I find the site very messy and all over the place, does not inspire me at all to believe what they say.  None of us know the truth, and maybe never will, but that site is just all over the place. Would not inspire me to visit again, very amateur.

If she is dead, and cameroon approved all these millions for an investigation, then it asks the question is the Establishment involved, and if that is the case it could take many, many years for the truth to come out.  We could die waiting.

I know many, many  people who believe she is still alive, and are adamant the parents had nothing to do with it.
 and will not be persuaded otherwise.  Forums/supporters  out there dedicated to the innocence of the McCanns.  There will always be the believers and non-believers, and no amount of forums/blogs can alter that.

Nobody will ever agree on this.  I sit on the fence, 50/50 either way.  But sites like jillhavern do not convince me that she is dead.  When you have a site all over the place and messy like that one then it tends to lead to lack of credibility IMO.  Without wishing to sound cold-hearted, the outcome is irrelevant to me and therefore I can see both sides and understand what they are saying, doesn´t mean I believe it all.  I would love her to be alive, but it is out of my hands.

One day we might get the truth, but maybe not.   One  could say the smell of blood could have been put on clothes etc for the cadaver dogs to smell.  Not impossible.  So much corruption, so many smoke screens and lies everywhere these days, all we can do is wait for when/if the truth is revealed.  
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2017, 05:18:00 am »

More coming out about the investigation into MM's disappearance. Allegations s that it was not so much an investigation but an attempt to prove her parents innocence. Why? I smell a very big nasty rat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4467832/Met-interested-proving-McCann-parents-innocent.html
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« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2017, 05:22:52 pm »

More coming out about the investigation into MM's disappearance. Allegations s that it was not so much an investigation but an attempt to prove her parents innocence. Why? I smell a very big nasty rat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4467832/Met-interested-proving-McCann-parents-innocent.html

Indeeed, this case is strange, from start to finish... What makes me angry is this interest in finding McCann's innocent instead of being interested in finding out the truth!  At the very least  these parents left their children alone at their accomodations after giving them medicines so they could "sleep better", both of these consitute crimes according to portuguese law... now all the strange incidents talked about... some seem to have some truth to them, like the one that claims it could've been a simple accident overdosis, the parents panicked and disposed of the body, others seem ludicrous such as one claiming Madeline wasn't Mr.McCann's daughter and was Mr.Gordon Brown's child and that's why she was kidnapped (no matter how far fetched they sound I wouldn't put it past certain people)... I don't know the truth and I'm sitting on the fence regarding this matter.
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« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2017, 05:49:50 pm »

If they were working class, then they probably would have been prosecuted for abandoning their children in the evenings. Yes evenings. More than one. And they are professional people who owe a duty of care to their patients, but not it seems, to their own children. They gaily abandoned them to go out drinking, socialising on subsequent evenings. Some parents!

That aside, what about Kate's lies about the broken shutter, for the supposed abductor to secrete Madeleine from the apartment when it was proven there was no damage? And no DNA either.

And what about the cadaver dogs, dogs cannot lie, that found scents of a corpse behind the sofa, in Kate and Gerry's
wardrobe plus in the car they rented that year.? The scents had 13 out of 18 markers (markers are like DNA) that were was shown to belong to MM. And it was the same scent from all 3 places. When Gerry was asked about the British dogs' findings, he stormed off saying "Ask the dogs". Now any bereft parent would be desperate, utterly desperate for any leads or help in finding their child especially in those circumstances. Not Gerry. He stormed off in a huff.

No I don't think they killed her. The previous evening Madeleine was heard by a credible witness, a neighbour, that she  had cried out for her dad for 45 minutes. But no one came. So much for taking turns every 15/20 minutes to check on the children of the Tapas 9.

I think she was given Calpol or another mild sedative to make her sleep so they could enjoy themselves without the encumbrance of their children. (I remember reading that Kate and Gerry had asked social services if another family member could be Madeleine's legal guardian as they could not cope). I think Madeleine woke up on hearing her dad outside when he did check on the children, ran to the window to see him and slipped behind the sofa accidentally killing herself.

With their jobs as medical doctors, they could not admit neglect for fear of losing their jobs, so the story became that their daughter had been abducted. And they had to hide the body. Traces of smells of Madeleine's cadaver were found around the apartment and in the boot of the car too. These dogs are extremely highly trained, and dogs cannot lie.

I think it was a tragic accident and they are still paying for it today. I don't believe she was abducted.

Tragic all round.

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« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2017, 06:42:00 pm »

^Really nice post Little Light! It seems very plausible. Yes, it must've been an accident, they'd did the wrong dosis or Maddie woke up and went searching for her parents and hit her head somewhere...
Without a shadow of a doubt, if they were portuguese and especially working class, justice would've followed another path, they'd lose the custody of their children and perhaps have either some time in jail because of the medicine they've given the little ones. Of course, as medical doctors they should know all the things that could happen regarding the medicines, all the things that could go wrong, so it makes it even more plausible what you said, they couldn't possibly admit to what they'd been doing, right?

Yes, the dogs can't be wrong, they never are, they never wore. It's just aggravating that the McCann's try to manipulate the facts and oh, the way they've treated the judicial portuguese police, which in 2009 and 2010 had a success rate of 100% in finding missing children as if they were idiots is appalling...
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