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« Reply #80 on: August 07, 2018, 02:36:33 am »

Why was the date of Catherine Howard's birth not recorded?
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« Reply #81 on: August 07, 2018, 06:57:52 am »

^ Most people's dates of birth weren't recorded back then.
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« Reply #82 on: October 26, 2018, 01:19:07 am »

Choir records double agent's music given to King Henry VIII   
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« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2018, 12:20:47 am »

The private marriage of Anne Boleyn and King Henry VIII   
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-private-marriage-of-anne-bolyn-and-king-henry-viii-of-england-25144171.html
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« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2018, 11:40:34 pm »

Before Anne Boleyn's fall from grace, in early September 1535, Henry VIII and Anne stayed at Wolf Hall in Savernake. This was the home of Sir John Seymour.
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« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2018, 10:36:46 pm »

Catherine Howard was the one I pity the most; she was not raised as a lady and she was not protected from people who took advantage of her before and after she became Queen. Her old acquaintances blackmailed her into hiring them into her household and she really never stood a chance as a child.
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« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2018, 11:20:58 pm »

With his second and third marriages, King Henry VIII had not made a marriage for political advantages with a foreign princess.
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« Reply #87 on: November 27, 2018, 12:02:50 am »

After how he treated Katherine of Aragon, it's no wonder. He mistreated and abused a Princess of Spain and Aunt of the Holy Roman Emperor. You know, I sometimes wish that Katherine had had the courage to leave England after the death of Prince Arthur and just get out of there. I am disgusted at how Henry VII had the nerve to keep Katherine in humiliating poverty and it was rumored that when he was Prince of Wales, Henry VIII secretly renounced his engagement to Katherine and Henry was engaged to marry a member of the Imperial Family (during the time when Maximilian was Emperor). After all that misery and poverty and humiliation, she then gets married to Henry and after eighteen years of marriage (after being anointed and crowned in Westminster) her husband (admittedly in need of  a male heir) ends up deciding to not just end the marriage, but claim that it was never legitimate in the first place and so all along Katherine was just an unwitting harlot (who was cheated on by Henry throughout all those years) and that her daughter Mary, Princess of Wales was just an illegitimate child with no legitimate claim to the throne.

Then he flaunts Anne Boleyn in front of Katherine and has the GALL to demand that everyone defer to Anne (even before marriage) and basically pretend that Katherine was unimportant and then Katherine is subjected to one round of material degradation after another. It's like going from mansion to apartment to homeless shelter/rooming house. There was nowhere for Katherine to go to live better and Henry just kept up the abuse and mistreatment like she had personally offended him by refusing to say that she was never his true wife and that Mary was not and never his legitimate daughter and heir.
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« Reply #88 on: November 27, 2018, 04:42:19 pm »

Henry VIII could have named Mary as his heir, she could have married someone from the Plantagenet family and a grandson could have been the next in line. Mary would have liked to have a husband and family, according to various accounts. She was too old (back then) to have  children when she married Philip of Spain and the years of abuse may have made her sick so she could not have children.
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« Reply #89 on: November 27, 2018, 07:24:37 pm »

I'll never get over how Henry took such a wrecking ball to so many lives, all because he wanted sex from Anne Boleyn and then wanted to marry her. Anne did a horrible amount of damage that can never be undone and I will never forgive her for all she did just because she became some kind of feminist icon. The abuse she subjected Mary and Katherine to, plus the deaths of Sir Thomas More and Cardinal Wolsey and Cardinal Fisher (among so many other good men) and all that abusiveness was NEVER necessary. There was no need to declare Mary illegitimate and there was no need to strip Katherine of her comforts and even elementary dignity. Anne held a party to celebrate the destruction of a man who did nothing but serve Henry tirelessly (Wolsey) and Sir Thomas More's death was a judicial execution, as was Fisher's. I am dead sure that it was not needed to have Mary get slapped and hit and verbally abused and threatened with poison or a low marriage. Henry is rightly blamed, but Anne was all for all the abuse that could be laid on a teenager who was struggling to cope with a world turned upside down. Anne is documented as URGING Henry to execute Mary and Katherine using any pretext possible and for that alone, my sympathy becomes dead. Anne had no excuse and there is no justification for urging Henry to murder his own daughter. Katherine and Mary were already helpless and were cut off from any kind of effective military network and Anne, during her entire time as Henry's mistress and wife, presided over some kind of nonstop bloodbath that Henry continued, but Anne kept urging him to be more and more ruthless with everyone around him. Anne was a monster who just never let up until she was executed.

Henry admittedly gave the orders, but Anne was the one who encouraged him to think that he was someone who should rule without limits and created the tyrant that turned on her in the end.
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« Reply #90 on: December 27, 2018, 09:17:13 pm »

Anne of Cleves' coronation as queen had been set for February 1540. King Henry VIII called it off without giving a reason.
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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2019, 11:27:59 pm »

In some of his love letters to Anne Boleyn, King Henry VIII referred to himself as Anne's servant. When she responded that she should actually be considered Henry's servant, this delighted Henry.     
 
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« Reply #92 on: March 08, 2019, 10:15:22 pm »

Catherine of Aragon pleading her case against divorce from King Henry VIII.   
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« Reply #93 on: April 15, 2019, 11:27:58 pm »

Henry VIII's longest marriage was to Catherine of Aragon, lasting nearly 24 years. This is longer than all five of his other marriages combined.
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