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« on: October 15, 2012, 08:06:05 pm »

Mountbatten is the family name originally adopted by a branch of the Battenberg family during World War I because of rising anti-German sentiment among the British public. On 14 July 1917, Prince Louis of Battenberg ("Prince Louis I") assumed the surname Mountbatten (having rejected an alternative translation, "Battenhill")[1][verification needed] for himself and his descendants and was created Marquess of Milford Haven.[2] The name is an Anglicisation of the German Battenberg, a small town in Hesse. The title of count of Battenberg, later prince of Battenberg, was granted to a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt in the mid 19th century.
Current holder of the marquessate
The current head of the Mountbatten family is the great-grandson of Prince Louis I, George Mountbatten, 4th Marquess of Milford Haven, who was born in London on 6 June 1961.[3] He has a son named Henry, born in 1991.[4]
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July 18, 1922

Lord Louis Mountbatten, younger son of the late Prince Louis of Battenberg, married the Hon. Edwina Ashley earlier today at St. Margaret's, Westminster, reports the New York Times.

King George V, the groom's second cousin, Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, Princess Mary, and most members of the British royal family were present for the ceremony.

The wedding "attracted an enormous amount of popular interest," as many people began to arrive near the church as early as 5 a.m.

The Prince of Wales was best man, and he seemed to "enjoy the proceedings as best men generally do."  Lord, Louis, the "sailor bridegroom," also appeared more at ease that "bridegrooms  are traditionally supposed to be."

The bride was attended by seven bridesmaids, including four Greek princesses, Margarita, Theodora, Cecile and Sophie, who are the daughters of Lord Louis's eldest sister, Princess Alice, the wife of Prince Andrew of Greece. 

As the bride is not yet 21, she needed her father's permission to marry before the marriage license could be obtained.
Miss Ashley is said to be "England's richest heiress."   The reception was held at Brook House, in Park Lane, which is a part of the bride's inheritance, reported to be in the range of £5,000,000.

The newly married Lord and Lady Louis Mountbatten will be spending their honeymoon in Spain, as the guests of King Alfonso XIII and Queen Ena, who can say that she is the groom's first cousin, as well as the groom's mother's first cousin.  However, the first few weeks of the honeymoon will be spent at the bride's home, Broadlands, in Romsey.

[Queen Ena is the daughter of Prince Henry of Battenberg and Princess Beatrice.  Henry of Battenberg was Prince Louis's younger brother.  Princess Beatrice's sister, Alice, married Grand Duke Ludwig IV of Hesse and by Rhine, and their eldest daughter, Victoria, married Prince Louis of Battenberg, the parents of the groom.]

The newlyweds also plan to travel to America. 

Lord Louis's father, Prince Louis, relinquished his German titles in July 1917, and was created Marquess of Milford Haven by George V.  He died in 1921, and was succeeded by his elder son, George, as the 2nd Marquess of Milford Haven.

Lord Louis, a naval officer, recently acted as aide to the Prince of Wales, when he traveled to Australia and Japan.
http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com.br/2012/07/mountbatten-ashley-nuptials-today.html
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 08:10:00 pm »

what the bride wore:
Lady Louis Mountbatten's wedding gown was  a "simple ankle-length Reville gown of soft-silver tissue," with a low waistline,
where "two narrow panels dropped at the sides.  Her train was the "conventional four-yard court rain, draped with 15th century point Devenise lace.   
The bridal veil was made of silk tulle, "surmounted with a silver lattice coronet, surrounded by orange flowers, which were centered with diamonds."

Edwina's bridesmaids:
Miss Edwina Ashley was attended by seven bridesmaids, all of whom were dressed, according to The Times, in "delphinium blue with silver caps
and bouquets of delphiniums."
The bridesmaids were Princesses Margarita, Theodora, Cecile and Sophie of Greece and Denmark, the bridegroom's nieces; the bride's younger
sister, the Hon. Mary Ashley, and the Lady Mary Ashley-Cooper and Miss Joan Pakenham.
The bride is the daughter of Colonel Wilfrid William Ashley, MP.  She is through her late mother the granddaughter of the late Sir Ernest Cassel,
who "left her a large part of his enormous wealth.
Shortly before the wedding, King George V promoted his cousin, Lord Louis, to Knight Commander in the Royal Victorian Order.

Guests at the Mountbatten-Ashley nuptials:
King George V and Queen Mary were present for the wedding of Lord Louis Mountbatten and Miss Edwina Ashley at St. Margaret's, Westminster. 
They also attended the wedding reception at Brook House, Park Lane.  Other members of the Royal Family at the wedding included Queen Alexandra, 
Princess Mary and Lord Lascelles, the Duke of York, and Prince George.
Other prominent guests included the groom's sister, Princess Alice and her husband Prince Andrew of Greece, Grand Duke Michael of Russia
and his wife, Countess Sophie Torby, and members of their family.  Their younger daughter, Nada, is married to Lord Louis's older brother,
Lord Milford Haven.  They have two young children, Lady Tatiana Mountbatten, and Lord Medina.
1500 wedding invitations were sent out.
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2012, 08:21:34 pm »

The Mountbatten Connection
Following the death of Eliza Brightwen The Grove estate was put up for auction by Farebrother, Ellis, Egerton, Breach & Co., on Thursday, 12th of July 1906.It was to be sold in two or three lots comprising of in total nearly 94 acres. Visit the Sale Brochure.The entire Grove estate was purchased by Sir Ernest Cassel , for £17,000, as a gift for his daughter Maudie and her husband Wilfrid Ashley.Maudie and Wilfrid had a daughter, Edwina, aged 5 and Maudie was pregnant with their second child at the time of The Grove's purchase......


Researching The Mountbatten Connection lead me to the Hartley Library at Southampton University , where the Mountbattern family have placed
many of their photographs for safe keeping.With great help from the archives staff I was able to locate many of the photographs for this section of The Grove's history.
This includes the following photographs from the The Grove's Visitors Book, and Edwina Ashley's own photograph album.
read more: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thegrove/Mount.html

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 08:24:23 pm »

Edwina Ashley
Wilfrid was re-elected to Parliament and joined Maudie in London for Christmas, but the children stayed at Moulton Paddocks until the end of January, and then went onto a hotel in Bournemouth. Maudie died on the 5th of February 1911 and the children did not attend the funeral which was held at Romsey Abbey.

Sir Ernest gave £50,000 in Maudie's memory, to be shared between King Edward Vll's Hospital Fund and hospitals in Hampshire and Blackpool. In memory of the late King, he also set up a foundation to help distressed British people in Germany and Germans in Britain, launching it with a gift of £210,000. A further £30,000 was given to a fund for workman in Swedish mines. Further donations were £10,000 in 1912 to the Deaconesses' Hospital in Alexandria , £50,000 in 1913 for the relief of the sick and needy in his birthplace, Cologne, with another £20,000 in 1902 for the King Edward Vll Sanatorium Sir Ernest had founded.

Feeling more settled and living for most of her time at Broadlands with her sister, Edwina took it upon herself to be her sisters guardian. A governess, Laura Deveria, was appointed in September 1912 for the girls, and they met her, at Branksome, after a holiday cruise with Wilfrid and Sir Ernest.

Wilfrid married Molly Forbes-Sempill on the 28th of August 1914, Molly had been divorced from her first husband Commander Lionel Forbes-Sempill earlier in that year. She asked the children to call her 'Madre' and they both took an instant dislike to their new stepmother. According to Janet Morgan in her book `Edwina Mountbatten, A Life of Her Own',``Molly was a dragon, breathing fire and smoke upon the staff, family and guests. Visitors were warned that, on arrival, they should ring the bell no more than once as the servants are well trained.'' Laura Deveria as sacked as governess by Molly, and Miss Attwood was employed in her place. Wilfrid was away a lot of the time doing his bit for the war effort and so the children stayed at Broadlands throughout most of 1915 .

Mary was sent away to school in 1916, which left Edwina on her own being taught at Broadlands by Miss Attwood. Also in 1916, she went into a London nursing home to have an operation on her toe and Sir Ernest bought her needlework, grapes and chocolates when he came to see her. She was allowed to leave after three days with her foot bandaged in cotton wool, but she was not able to walk. After this, Edwina and Miss Attwood went to stay at The Grove instead of going back to Broadlands, where Sir Ernest, Auntie-Grannie, Uncle Felix and Aunt Helen tried to make things enjoyable by taking Edwina to tea at Fuller's or Gorringe's after her appointments with the doctor. It was some time before Edwina in her surgical boots, was able to hobble about, or begin to walk properly.

Mary went to The Grove in April, straight from school and according to Edwina, they had a marvellous time, although apparently Mary had far too many cakes and often made herself sick. After great shopping trips to Swears and Wells, Harrods, Debenham and Freebody, lunch at Brook House with Granpapa and in South Audley Street with Mrs Bisch, and more tea outings to Gorringe's, Edwina and Mary managed to get away to Branksome for Auntie-Grannie's Easter party. This was most likely the very last time that The Grove was used by any of the family for any length of time. From then onwards, except for the servants, the house remained empty for long periods, except for being used over the years by friends and acquaintances of the family. According to Mrs Windmill it was not unusual for friends of the Ashley or Cassel families just to `drop in' often unannounced to stay at The Grove or even just to come and change their clothes on their way to somewhere else.

Edwina and Mary were both sent away to The Links school at Eastbourne in September of 1916 where there were 37 girls in the school. The school was run by Miss Jane Potts, who had been the governess to Queen Victoria's grand-daughter, Princess Alice. Mary returned to The Links alone, in 1919 whilst Edwina attended Alde House, a domestic science training college in Suffolk. After this in 1920, Edwina went to work for her grandfather at Brook House. While at Cowes she was introduced to Dickie Mountbatten for the first time which was the same year as she 'came out'.

Both Dickie Mountbatten's father and Sir Ernest Cassel died in 1921, within two weeks of each other. Sir Ernest, who had made his will in 1920, had an estate which was estimated to be seven and a half million pounds. This he divided into sixty-four parts leaving Edwina twenty-five sixty-forths, and Villa Cassel left jointly with her sister, Mary. Mrs Cassel's was left all the furniture, glass, pictures, fixtures and fittings, Brook House, Moulton Paddocks and Branksome Dean to enjoy which were all passed to Edwina after her death. During that same year Dickie Mountbatten had already made plans to go to India, with his cousin, The Prince of Wales. He and Edwina exchanged letters every day, so there were always letters from her awaiting him in every port. Edwina went out to meet Dickie in 1921 in India, where he proposed to her, and the couple were married on the 18th July 1922 after his return.

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 02:45:36 pm »

LOL! I found this very amusing it means that no-one will be able to see what he is doing, where and with whom. Must be Mr Lo-Pi who directed him in this way.

After this he's to spend a year with the Foreign Office and to be tutored by various privy councillors.  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/2479299/Prince-William-joins-the-SAS.html

P.S. I take it they mean the security services and not Swedish Air Services.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 02:47:15 pm »

But the article is from 2008  huh
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 02:50:25 pm »

Oh well spotted Alexandrine. I saw it on Not Windsor's tweet and went from there.

This makes it even more interesting as none of this happened. None of it.  huh  huh  huh

So what went wrong?
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 02:52:55 pm »

I saw it there too but after seeing the date I didn't post it.

No idea. Maybe he did work for the SAS or had private engagements with them. But it's obvious he hasn't worked for FO. At least not in a day to day basis.

Though it's interesting all the connections Charles and William are making with the SAS isn't it? Charles being patron of the SAS is very weird.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 02:57:40 pm »

Yes and there was that very strange meeting Charles had with the security services at Clarence House a week or so ago - MI5/MI6 and GCHQ and the announcement of those awards you know Spook of the Year and Best Covert Attack on a Failed State etc. Risible utterly risible. People who undertake this sort of work don't expect silly awards - the odd gong perhaps but not this silly stuff.

Are they expecting trouble? After all when Harold Wilson was PM there was an attempted coup on him and Mountbatten was asked to lead the military but he refused. It was always said it was an urban myth but it turned out to be true.
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 03:37:29 pm »

^ I don't get the Mountbatten thing, can you pass a link please?  thankyou
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 05:21:51 pm »

^ There's lots about it if you google Harold Wilson coup d'etat but here's a link from the Guardian as a trusted source. There were even troop movements at Heathrow Airport and it was planned that Mountbatten would take the lead and (not mentioned here) Hughie Greene the TV presenter and father of Paula Yates would be the propaganda minister.

Sounds quite bonkers but it's all true and there was a BBC docudrama about it all.

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As Peter Wright confirmed in his book Spycatcher, Wilson was the victim of a protracted, illegal campaign of destabilisation by a rogue element in the security services. Prompted by CIA fears that Wilson was a Soviet agent - put in place after the KGB had, the spooks believed, poisoned Hugh Gaitskell, the previous Labour leader - these MI5 men burgled the homes of the prime minister's aides, bugged their phones and spread black, anti-Wilson propaganda throughout the media. They tried to pin all kinds of nonsense on him: that his devoted political secretary, Marcia Williams, posed a threat to national security; that he was a closet IRA sympathiser.

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The great and the good feared that the country was out of control, and that Wilson lacked either the will or the desire to stand firm. Retired intelligence officers gathered with military brass and plotted a coup d'etat. They would seize Heathrow airport, the BBC and Buckingham Palace. Lord Mountbatten would be the strongman, acting as interim prime minister. The Queen would read a statement urging the public to support the armed forces, because the government was no longer able to keep order.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/mar/15/comment.labour1

This is an interesting link implicating the Israelis and Mossad in the event.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/plot-against-harold-wilson-what-they.html
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 05:31:09 pm »

wow fascinating. Never heard of it before.

Interesting that no one mentions the real role of the Queen in the supposed coup. Is she as politically neutral as they sell to the public? 
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 05:45:29 pm »

It's funny you should say that as this got me looking around for some information on just that aspect of it and it seems there is no hard evidence of such collusion by her but the concensus seems to be that she knew and approved. Of course they would be careful to keep her directly out of this but I doubt Mountbatten refused the role too - he was a very canny operator and could see which way the wind was blowing.

Under our constitution the monarch does have the right to dismiss a prime minister so I'm not sure why she couldn't have just said ...right then Wilson off you trot and let's have someone else.

They thought Wilson was a Soviet plant and also Jack Jones the leader of the Trade Union Congress with others here and there. However it turned out it was the Queen's own art historian Sir Anthony Blunt who really was working for the Soviets.

And yes you are correct I also think this is a prime illustration of how the RF really does have real power behind the scenes. This is why all the men go into the armed forces - if there was a revolution the armed forces would be onside. Let's also not forget that armed forces, police MPs etc also swear an oath of office to the Queen not to the nation or the people, but to the Queen.

It might be a good idea to make this a separate thread as I did come across something else quite interesting that is loosley connected to this but I'll have to find it again.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 06:09:41 pm »

There is a very interesting book called the Crabb Enigma by Mike and Jacqui Welham which has a chapter claiming that Mountbatten was a Soviet spy and was in cahoots with Sir Anthony Blunt. Russian Colonel Golenewski referred to Mountbatten's friendship with Blunt and called them the Soviets Agent Club at Buckingham Palace. So were Mountbatten and Blunt lovers?

The War of the Windsors also states that Mountbatten actually detested the British because of the way his father was treated by George V who stripped him of his royal status and made him change his name from Battenburg to Mountbatten.

The CIA raised serious concerns as to how Mountbatten became such a senior and influential figure when his homosexuality alone in those days made him a great security risk.

This is the Amazon synopsis of the book. I haven't read it myself but it's on my list.

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Commander ‘Buster’ Crabb, a British naval frogman, disappeared whilst undertaking an underwater ‘spying mission’ involving the Soviet cruiser Ordzhonikidze in 1956. Just over a year after he disappeared, a body washed up headless and handless near Portsmouth. The establishment took charge of the body and, at an inquest, declared it to be Crabb. However, vital evidence was omitted and key witnesses not called.

It’s now known that it was not Crabb who was buried in Portsmouth. The problem for the establishment was that Crabb worked for the then head of the Royal Navy, Lord Mountbatten. At the time, US government security agencies had alleged that Mountbatten was doing ‘unofficial’ business with the Soviet Union. This, UK officials believed, was a valid reason for Crabb’s story to be held secret until 2056 – an unprecedented 100 years. The FBI and CIA state that it is in the interests of US National Security not to make available any documentation or information, and applications to the KGB by the authors remain unanswered. However, for thirty years Admiral Gennadiy Zakharov trained Spetsnaz troops in Naval sabotage and states that Crabb was in the Eastern Bloc at that time. Sir Percy Silitoe, former head of MI5 also states that the department had a file that proved Crabb was in the Soviet Union.

The story also involves the British ruling class and Royalty. It is a tale of illegal activities, art and currency smuggling, Nazi looted gold and treasure, homosexual blackmail, threats and mysterious deaths. The authors and witnesses have been subjected to government surveillance, mail interception and telephone tapping both by the UK authorities and INTERPOL. Following publication of the authors’ previous book Frogman Spy, attempts were made to kill both a researcher and a vital witness. This is the murky world of what the establishment does not want you to know.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Crabb-Enigma-Mike-Welham/dp/1848763824/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369760938&sr=8-1&keywords=the+crabb+enigma
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 06:37:54 pm »

Doesn't make (IMO) sense that Mountbatten used Blunt to go against the RF because the QM was a known friend of Blunt.

Icke mentions he worked for them and that he may even be a royal bastard.

http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/79139-the-british-establishment--paedophiles-everywhere

If Mountbatten detested the british for his new lower rank then he should hated the russians because of his family murder.
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   Lord Louis was all about Lord Louis, and his family's advancement.

    Not the nicest man, but neither was the Queen Mother  easter-lol
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 09:26:03 pm »

^ There was a story about him wanting to lead out the Queen on her way to her coronation and she resisted him with great force but he even turned up on the morning of the coronation demanding to be allowed to do so but she gave him short shrift. He was extremely pushy and as Tatiana says MB was all about MB.

^^ Alexandrine I know it seems unlikely but read the extract from the ebook on the Buster Crabbe affair - page 270 or thereabouts as there are letters and documents referring to his attempts to cosy up to the Soviet Union and even Churchill took him to task for his "left wing leanings".

In 1956, at the height of the Cold War,  he is quoted as saying: "If I were Prime Minister I'd go to Moscow tomorrow to meet Kruschev. I know they killed all my family but that mustn't stand in the way of getting on with them now."

George V didn't allow the Romanovs to seek asylum in the UK and that also hastened their demise which may have added to any animosity.
 
We also have to remember that the Soviet spy group - Philby, Maclean, Blunt etc were all establishment types too.

Anyway read this extract it's very detailed. Incidentally I have read (not in this) that MI5 broke with protocol and dealt directly with HM over this issue as the security services were trying to lay a trap for Mountbatten and it had to be kept as closed as possible.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=gNVcfJLeGnkC&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=mountbatten+soviet+spy&source=bl&ots=SB0FFhIu-K&sig=1B4UMnqnlkgUr27px2kwPCg3kNs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hA-lUZ6tM-mo0QXA4oCgCA&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=mountbatten%20soviet%20spy&f=false
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 09:58:15 pm »

^^ Will do.

But if this is all true, why let the heir to the crown get attached to him? Sure he was family but someone must have thought he would be a good mentor.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 10:43:12 pm »

^ I have no answer for that but PP was close to his uncle too perhaps Philip wasn't told? Or they thought associating the heir to a British war hero would be great PR. I don't know.

I guess we need to read and dig around to see what can b surmised but the papers have 100 year embargo on them so I doubt I'll be around to finally read them.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 11:01:45 pm »

^ So Crabb was supposed to loot nazi art and Blunt was an art historian.

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Blunt served as surveyor of the King’s pictures until George VI’s death in 1952 and continued as surveyor of the Queen’s pictures when Elizabeth II took the throne.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3579660.ece

But it's all very weird.  spy Let's see even the QM suspected that Blunt was a spy and the americans told the british that Mountbatten was also a spy, but no one did anything? Then we have Mountbatten acting as Charles mentor. Maybe PP thought it would be a good idea but the Q could have said no way. Would be PP or more in the RF agreeing with Mountbatten?  huh

Thanks for the link! It even had something about Sirkorsky and this book mentions that he was murdered by the british agents  bye So sad, his allies killed him.
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