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« on: September 29, 2012, 05:19:47 pm »

Chastened King Seeks Redemption, for Spain and His Monarchy

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/world/europe/juan-carlos-i-seeks-redemption-for-spain-and-monarchy.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha22_20120929&

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 06:26:00 pm »

Good to see that he's deciding (I hope) to slow down and stop seeking pleasure constantly.

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Some allies also consider him a crucial resource in advancing Spain’s economic interests outside the country. The Saudi high-speed train is their case in point.

“Without the king, this contract would not have gone ahead,” said a former Spanish foreign minister, Miguel Ángel Moratinos. “This kind of contract comes down to a personal decision by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.”


This is where royalty should come into play, to benefit their country via interpersonal relationships with the royals who still actually rule.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 06:49:31 pm »

The lonesome king of Spain: how Juan Carlos fell from grace
His popularity has crumbled, his relationship with his "companion" has cooled, his staff are striking and his son-in-law has disgraced the Royal family. Fiona Govan reports on why Spain is openly discussing the abdication of King Juan Carlos.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/9949809/The-lonesome-king-of-Spain-how-Juan-Carlos-fell-from-grace.html
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 07:45:15 pm »

 thankyou Alexandrine and Berlin for posting the links. I freely admit I don't know much about the King of Spain, however he won me over when at the 2007 Ibero-American Summit in Santiago he said in an angry voice to Hugo Chávez : ¿Por qué no te callas?

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Chávez was repeatedly interrupting Prime Minister of Spain José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero's speech. The phrase became an overnight sensation, gaining cult status as a mobile-phone ringtone, spawning a domain name, a contest, T-shirt sales, and YouTube videos.
At the meeting on 10 November 2007, Chávez repeatedly interrupted the speech of the Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, to call the Prime Minister's predecessor, José María Aznar, a "fascist" and "less human than snakes", and accuse Aznar of having supported a failed coup d'état aimed at removing Chávez from power. Zapatero had earlier irritated Chávez by suggesting that Latin America needed to attract more foreign capital to combat its chronic deepening poverty but that Chávez' socialist politics scared investors out of Latin America.

Although organizers switched off Chávez's microphone, he continued to interrupt as Zapatero defended Aznar. While the interruption and defence were taking place, Juan Carlos leaned forward, turned towards his fellow head of state, and said "¿Por qué no te callas?" ("Why don't you shut up?"). I loved the King then for his verbal slap to Chávez whom was always ready to ditch out his usual boorish lack of etiquette. Vive l'Espagne !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Kzbo7tNLg

The Spaniard's King words went all over the world and became famous:

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 10:07:43 pm »


He maybe needs to urgently seek it for himself.

"When 18-years-old, he murdered his 14-year-old brother, Alfonso, by shooting him at point-blank range up through the nose and brain with a .22 caliber handgun."

He likes nothing better than murdering helpless animals on safaris.

Nothing that is, except bedding other men's wives, arms trafficking, etc. A nasty old man, but par for a "royal."
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 07:13:50 am »

So he murdered his brother!

Oh man, get that monster off of that throne!
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 05:58:50 pm »

yeah, that is no secret. that's been around for years, they say it was an accident though those royal apologist.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 08:38:56 pm »

this is very old, however is something it has been discussed over and over again because no one knows what happened.

The official story is that it was an accident. It's hard to think that it wasn't  Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 09:17:22 pm »

With me I just think it's odd that he didn't empty the gun out & he had his finger in the trigger pointing at his brother.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 09:19:47 pm »

^it is a weird accident and it is the reason people speculate about it but to believe that he decided to kill his little brother like that...
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 09:24:43 pm »

I don't think he intentionally killed his brother either but that did happened... was he goofing around acting like a cowboy or something?
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 09:30:38 pm »

There are so many versions.... most says that they were playing and thought that the gun had no bullets.

Don Juan asked JC if it was an accident or not and told him to swear it. Then Don Juan threw the pistol to the sea. I've also read that the pistol was a present from Franco.

There wasn't a good investigation on this so we will never know the real details.

It was convenient for JC that his brother died but to kill him?
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2013, 09:34:20 pm »

ugh god Franco, I despise that man & his family.
He literally harassed the hell out of my family till the day he died & his fucking daughter married into my side of the family.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 02:28:37 am »

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It was convenient for JC that his brother died but ...

I'm curious as to what you mean. How was it "convenient"? Alfonso was 4 years younger, so Juan Carlos was the first in line.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 04:48:33 pm »

ugh god Franco, I despise that man & his family.
He literally harassed the hell out of my family till the day he died & his fucking daughter married into my side of the family.

wow can you tell if the rumours are true about the daughter? Is she his real daughter?


I'm curious as to what you mean. How was it "convenient"? Alfonso was 4 years younger, so Juan Carlos was the first in line.


Because the father and son didn't have a good relationship and Don Juan didn't take well that Franco wanted to pass him over and choose as heir JC.

Don Juan could have said that his heir was Alfonso and not JC. It would have made his position as next king more complicated, making the monarchists divided between two groups.
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2013, 12:10:56 am »

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I'm curious as to what you mean. How was it "convenient"? Alfonso was 4 years younger, so Juan Carlos was the first in line.


Because the father and son didn't have a good relationship and Don Juan didn't take well that Franco wanted to pass him over and choose as heir JC.

Don Juan could have said that his heir was Alfonso and not JC. It would have made his position as next king more complicated, making the monarchists divided between two groups.


That's really interesting. I didn't know that. Thank you.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2013, 02:40:21 pm »

Another interesting slant is that Juan Carlos since the age of 10 had been trained since 1948 in Francoist thoughts and principles.

Juan once said, this regarding Franco "An exceptional figure has entered history .Remembering Franco will constitute for me a demand for good behaviour and loyalty."
Everything changes".


Franco actually believed that Juan Carlos would continue them after his death, even saying "all is tied down and well tied down" in regards to the King succeeding him".
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