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« on: September 23, 2012, 10:59:34 pm »

This is from the Royal Forums site written by a poster named Claire in 2007:

"In 1993 Prince Edward arranged a date with Sophie Rhys-Jones. He had forgotten that he was due to have a late lunch with his parents. the Princess Royal and Tim Laurence at the same time, after the centarph service. Realising the mistake on the day he asked the Queen if he could bring Sophie to the lunch.
In the weeks that followed the Queen had related to the Queen Mother about Edward's girlfriend, famously refering to her as "unnoticable in a crowd,". She also spoke to his ladies in waiting and other famly members and friends. The Queen Mother desperately wanted to met Sophie and arranged a family lunch after Sunday service with the exact purpose.
After the lunch the Windsor men retired outside with their refreshment to overlook Prince Andrew's new car. When Diana arrived early returning William and Harry to their father and to spend time with the Queen. Leaving the boys by the men, Diana went inside, asking one of the couriers on the way if Sophie was with the Queen at the time, when they replied yes, she replied that she wanted to see who was replacing her.
By some accounts of the story Diana arrived when the Queen was going over the family album and in the middle of Princess Anne's story of something that happened while she was in Australia, while others note that Anne has already excused herself and was already on her way out.
Diana apparently say down besides Sophie and began what Princess Maragaret described as and interogation.

Diana commented about Sophie's skirt, saying it was nice for Marks and Spencers anyway and that must be expensive on her wages. She then stopped and asked with Sophie earned a salary rather. She then asked what Sophie's father did, when Sophie answered that he was retired, Diana replied that he must how be hard up for money. Apparently this is how it continued for almost half and hour, most of the questions revolved around how pooor and common Sophie was. Sophie then asked the Queen if she could leave and left the room. The Queen Mother apparantly told Diana off and when Diana tried to explain her behaviour, Princess Maragret remaked she had been a common b--ch, at which Diana left the room.

Upon leaving she ran into Andrew, Philip and Edward who were going upstairs, Diana told them that Sophie was not longer there. When the Duke of Edinburgh asked why she had left early, she answered that she was complaining of women problems and decided to leave. Edward went up to his apartment to find Sophie crying packing her things. He must have conviced her to stay as she didn't leave. The next day, the Queen and the Queen Mother apolgised for Diana's behavour.
Diana went home and phone Andrew Morton whom had already been told that Prince Edward had a new girlfriend and was eager for more information. She told him that Sophie was a carbon copy of her and that the monarchy were also grooming her to replace her.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 11:09:04 pm »

hey you are giving the source and everything so I would say it's ok unless the author disagrees  Hi
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 11:09:39 pm »

I'm sorry, but Diana seems like a right snob and it's pretty clear to see where William gets his narcissim from  thumbsdown
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 11:10:01 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 11:16:37 pm »

Yeah not very impressive, Diana... and what a shame that HM let her do it.  Poor Sophie.

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 11:17:03 pm »

Do we know where Claire got such detailed information?

William is just exactly like Charles in his behavior. IMO Harry is the one that is like Diana.

Did Diana dislike the fact that the royals were acting as if she didn't exist or were trying to replace her probably not. I don't know many who would appreciate being treated the way she was.
They are still trying to find a replacement for her in Kate.

Everyone has their faults and Diana did too but the empathy and caring that she felt for people was real.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 11:23:10 pm »

Why did the Queen allow the "interrogation" to go on for so long?  Perhaps she was ok with it, if it happened.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 11:25:31 pm »

As I said before this entire scene is also in one of the books written about Sophie.

When Sophie married Ed she was being touted as the new Diana for awhile and she had a couple of books written about her life and relationship with Edward. The lunch story was also touched on in Majesty magazine or Royalty magazine, it's a classic Diana story IMO. Even when Diana's being naughty I still find her intriguing, I love Diana,she was such a complex personality, but I have to admit, the stories I heard about how she treated Sophie made me want to see Sophie succeed. I really like Sophie.

There are also stories of Diana's treatment of JFK Jr's wife , Diana supposedly played a game of one-up-manship at Gianni Versace's funeral w Caroline and then said things about her, it's not repeated now since both sadly died and tradically, but Diana was already seeing Caroline Bessette Kennedy as competition. Diana could be sweet as pie ,but then she could turn on a dime and become very very jealous or insecure.

I have to read the book again, but I think the Queen was involved in the books they were looking at and basically not letting Diana suck the energy out of the room by causing a scene and perhaps the Queen was ignoring Diana, waiting for her to leave?
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 11:28:09 pm »

@berlin  Very good question   thumbsup

The Queen, The Queen Mother and Princess Margaret allowed her to attack Sophie without any of them stopping it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 11:30:28 pm »

Maybe the Queen knew that if Sophie married into the family she would put up with a lot worse and wanted to see how she would handle herself?
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 11:35:19 pm »

If you read the scene in the book, I think the Qu and Qu Mum were basically ignoring Diana, waiting for her to leave. They had basically already written Diana off, it was almost as if Fergie showing up after separating from Andrew. That is why Diana kept digging, she wanted a rise. Diana wanted to bring the entire mood of the room down to her level. She was feeling left out because of her marriage failing. She also said to someone later, everyone was being so nice to Sophie and she kind of resented it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 11:49:07 pm »

@Snokitty, IMO, William got the worst traits of his parents, and Harry got the best.  Diana and Charles were/are both snobbish and narcissistic.  However, Diana was also compassionate, Charles has shown himself to be self-depricating, and both were/are hard working. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 11:55:27 pm »

i'm skeptical, only because the brf liked to discredit diana
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 12:00:07 am »

When Fergie entered the RF Diana was also supposed to not be very happy with the idea as it meant that she had to compete in popularity with another woman so I can see that happening again between Diana and Sophie. But I cannot believe that they let Diana question Sophie without interrupting her and giving her a let down.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 12:02:42 am »

@alexandrine - i read the opposite, that Diana set up Fergie & Andrew because she wanted Fergie in.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 12:06:59 am »

Really? I've always read that at the start she didn't like at all the idea to share the limelight.
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 12:11:12 am »

I think the Di/Fergie stories are prime examples of how the truth gets twisted depending on who is telling the tale.

Apparently, Fergie was a LIW for Diana, and she set up Fergie after the Koo debacle.

Diana wanted Fergie, but I think after Fergie became a member of the BRF & Fergie started to compete with Diana & complain about how Diana was treated better, then Diana cooled to Fergie.
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 12:16:20 am »

Given this I'm convinced waity would have been beaten to shreds .
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 12:17:20 am »

Wow, since I've started reading books about Diana, I've got the impression that she could come across as a real b!tch at times - I certainly don't doubt that her compassion for the man on the street was genuine... but with those that mixed with her in her social circle, I bet she was mean when crossed.  I also agree with whoever said that Diana was a complex character and William has certainly inherited some of her meaner traits along with Charles arrogance etc.  Alexandrine, I don't think Diana liked sharing the limelight either...she would have put Kate through Hell, that's if she even let her get that far with William.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 12:22:40 am »

Also Diana used to call that women who worked at Hello for awhile (forget her name) and tell her stuff about Sophie, it was so mean. She would tell her that Sophie would go for a weekend with Edward in clothes that looked like they came from (name a cheap store in London?) anyway this woman joked that Diana thought of Sophie as KMart Diana...not sure which store name she used but that was the gist.

I'm a big Diana fan, I adore the woman, her fits of jealousy just make me laugh because it's so childish, like throwing a fit because someone is getting attention. Charles is like that too, but more cunning, he holds it then gets back at the person later.
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