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« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2015, 02:47:32 pm »

^On top of everyone else, including the medds en masse these days.  An article in the DM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184541/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Queen-counts-cost-Kate-effect-evaporates.html

Comments are so scathing.
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« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2015, 04:02:43 pm »

^ Haha, I like the article and some comments.  easter-lol
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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2015, 04:47:57 pm »

it's the queen's fault, she wanted poor little sweet Katey to fail (sarcasm). That's why she didn't give her any royal engagements wit ball room dresses (sarcasm). she didnt want her to shine like the star she is (we know that Fergi likes to wear lace throngs and suspenders, but Kate outshines her in the sexy department with bare feet and no panties ). she's jealous of this sweet lovely pretty future queen (sarcasm). and she forbade he to show her kids to the public. and now the public doesn't see her any more and doesn't adore her any more...all because of the evil plan of the evil queen to kick her out of her rightful place. 
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« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2017, 09:54:18 pm »

Before he married her, did Prince Andrew know what Sarah's spending habits were like?
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« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2017, 11:09:07 pm »

Did she have a big spending habit then?

I was always under the impression she was much poorer than Diana or her flat mates, living in a cheaper part of London.

Probalbly wrong, again, but I thought she lived in Clapham.



What a good point you've raised there FrederickLouis. When did her spending habits change, if at all. Or was she always a spendthrift?
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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2017, 11:34:14 pm »

Little light, I am glad that I was observant. Was not Sarah living with her father when Prince Andrew proposed? If Yes, was Mr. Ferguson paying for most of her expenses?
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« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2017, 04:33:52 am »

^ Sarah Ferguson was living with a female flat mate in London at the time of her engagement. She was working, after the Spring of 1984, at BCK Graphic Arts publishing house in London. The fine arts firm was based in Geneva but Sarah was the office manager and an editor at the London HQ which was in Mayfair, next to Sotheby's art house. The firm was headed by an ex racing driver named Richard Burton and Sarah got the job through links with Paddy McNally, her sometime racing car driver former boyfriend. She earned £20,000 a year at her job, an excellent salary in the mid 1980s.

Nothing has ever been written about who paid for Sarah's gown, veil and bouquet, shoes etc, but I would imagine it would have been a combination of Sarah's own money, her father's, (neither of them were wealthy) and deals made with the dressmaker, florist and other retailers for herself and the bridesmaids, pageboys, etc. After all, unlike ordinary brides, Sarah and Andrew didn't have to worry about paying for a church, reception, transport or anything of that nature.
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« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2017, 06:37:44 am »

Little light, I am glad that I was observant. Was not Sarah living with her father when Prince Andrew proposed? If Yes, was Mr. Ferguson paying for most of her expenses?

She had a good salary, lived with a roommate, but also when she went on trips her boyfriends paid her way and she also did chores to stay. She also had a huge overdraft at the bank where she did business at the time of her engagement.
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« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2017, 07:32:10 am »

^ When did Sarah ever not have a large overdraft/debts? I cannot believe how much money that woman must have gone through in her adult life!
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« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2017, 01:16:09 pm »

This is what I love about this forum.  loveshower

I learn so much here. 
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« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2017, 06:28:48 pm »

^ When did Sarah ever not have a large overdraft/debts? I cannot believe how much
money that woman must have gone through in her adult life!

I wonder why Fergie never at all ended up being mature enough to basically function on the day to day basis. She seems unwilling and unable to handle money responsibly and I wonder just whether or not HM would ever be willing to issue an LP that will sever Fergie permanently from the RF somehow.
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« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2017, 06:49:24 pm »

^ If only that were possible Kuei Fei, but so long as her daughters want her around she will always be on the periphery of the Royal family, clinging for dear life.
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« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2017, 07:46:01 pm »

 All HM has to do is state that in order to streamline the RF and remove any confusion, that ex-wives of princes and royals are no longer be allowed to retain any title gained through marriage as a surname and that from the date the LP is issued, no ex-wives are to be known by any other surname except as "Windsor." Then Fergie will be known as Ms. Sarah Windsor. Cut out and off of the royal train for good. Fergie would have cachet, but not a title to use. HM could also send the Yorkies on a nice long tour somewhere where Fergie won't be able to go. It's so simple, but HM refuses to do it.
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« Reply #73 on: June 16, 2017, 08:53:06 pm »

That's a great plan re stripping her of the title, but HM has a weakness when it comes to Andrew. All Fergie has to do is cry to her daughters, who then would cry to Andrew, who then would plead with Mummy to spare Fergie. You're right about the solution being with HM, but she seems to want to please Andrew more than get rid of the Fergie problem.
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« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2017, 02:26:37 am »

Has Prince Andrew ever made a speech in the House of Lords?
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« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2017, 06:27:08 am »

  He's not a Lord... NO
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« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2018, 06:00:01 pm »

It’s pretty much guaranteed that Prince Andrew & Sarah Ferguson will remarry

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    The manner in which Andrew and Fergie have lived virtually together almost as man and wife for many years is proof enough for most of their circle that one factor, and one factor alone, has stood between them remarrying — Prince Philip. He has never forgiven the Duchess for humiliating his second son and embarrassing the family when pictures were published of her ‘financial adviser’ John Bryan kissing her toes by a swimming pool in the South of France.

    The Queen, it must be said, likes the Duchess. Despite her errors, extravagance and extraordinary ability to put her foot in it, she sees in Fergie a lively woman who has never lost her ability to make her favourite son happy. And she is proud of the way Sarah has raised her daughters. Indeed, of all the royals, the Queen is the most relaxed about Andrew sharing Royal Lodge — the Queen Mother’s old home in Windsor Great Park — with his former wife. More significantly, she is unlikely to raise any serious objections should they decide to remarry.

    In the past, Andrew disdained the idea, saying that their untypical domestic arrangements for a divorced couple were intended to make life easier for their two daughters. No doubt that is true. But their lives under the same roof over the past 12 years have drawn them closer than either expected, and if Andrew or Sarah did — separately or together — harbour thoughts of remarriage, it is hardly something that would be talked about in front of Prince Philip. In fact, with the birth in April of William and Kate’s third child, Prince Louis, Prince Andrew dropped to seventh in line to the throne, freeing him from requiring the Queen’s permission to marry.

    As a senior courtier observes: ‘It isn’t as though they are young people jumping from one mistake to another. Prince Andrew and the Duchess are moving into their 60s, mature and experienced. But, of course, they seem very happy as they are and no one can say that they ever will want to remarry.’ It is generally accepted, however — despite their proximity in the wedding photographs — that if they did, no such decision could be taken while Philip is alive.

https://www.celebitchy.com/596051/its_pretty_much_guaranteed_that_prince_andrew_sarah_ferguson_will_remarry/#comments

You know, if this does happen, I think it won't even matter much; the courtiers must be immune from being shocked anymore and I think they've given up on trying to successfully carry the monarchy to the new era. Fergie being back in will not do much by way of damage since the institution is outdated and trying to get the Windsors on some kind of track is now a lost cause.

Fact is, if Andrew and Fergie are eagerly awaiting the death of Philip, it means that all he did as a father and prince was all unappreciated, wasted on ingrates. Goes to show how low the Duke of York has sunk and it shows that HM has no appreciation of her husband's sacrifices made on her behalf as consort. For reasons I do not know, HM blindly thinks that Fergie is just an eccentric ex-wife and not the exploitative user that she in fact is. I wonder if HM even cares about the monarchy or about the damage it will do to the prestige of her nation's reputation to have her back on the taxpayer dole.

As for Prince Philip; I kind of feel sorry for him since his life's work and sacrifice has been a waste and clearly on one around him (certainly not HM even) appreciates all the work he put into the nation and BRF and essentially agreed to an arranged match made by his parents and mainly because HM as a princess took a fancy to him. I do wonder if whether or not he had much by way of a choice in whether or not he even WANTED to marry HM. Back then HM was in fact the most powerful and eligible heiress in the world and no family would actually even LET a son refuse to marry her, even if he wanted to.
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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2018, 06:17:48 pm »

Elizabeth's parents were not all that keen on Philip. They got unofficially engaged in 1946 but her parents told her to wait a year. In the hopes she might change her mind

If Fergie marries Andrew after Philip passes on, she will get "above herself" and behave like she's a Queen Mum and spend money like water (she will never learn)
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« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2018, 02:50:37 am »

I would almost feel a bit sorry for Chucky if Andy and Fergie got married again since it would probably be after Liz and Phil are gone. Chucky will have to deal with Andy and Fergie as well as Ma and MEg.  laugh
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« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2018, 02:54:53 am »

I don't think either Andy and Fergie has the slightest intention of marrying again. Fergie was a disaster as a Royal and nobody would want to go through that again. I think they're quite happy as they are, just close friends and parents.
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