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« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2012, 07:22:09 am »

Yes he was having an "emotional affair" if you call talking to your confident about your mess of a marriage that...

She was not a confidante, she was a mistress... a woman he'd slept with in the past who was married to another man and had an agenda of her own. He should have gone to a marital counselor, someone who had no stake in what happened who wanted to actually HELP C&D work through their problems. Not someone who delighted in problems and gleefully reported them to the press.
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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2012, 08:32:22 am »


        Leo Girl just Roared The Truth    goodpost

 

            Camilla is not a nice little old lady, she wasnt even a nice younger lady.
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« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2012, 08:58:37 am »

Yes he was having an "emotional affair" if you call talking to your confident about your mess of a marriage that...

She was not a confidante, she was a mistress... a woman he'd slept with in the past who was married to another man and had an agenda of her own. He should have gone to a marital counselor, someone who had no stake in what happened who wanted to actually HELP C&D work through their problems. Not someone who delighted in problems and gleefully reported them to the press.
How do we know all of this?  bored3
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« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2012, 09:14:36 am »



    Sorry Jane... we are all out of horses to beat .. but jolly good try though.

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« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2012, 01:59:16 pm »

Camilla had a lot to lose if Charles and Diana were able to work on their marriage and strengthen their relationship as the years went by. She was married to APB but I think enjoyed the excitement, the perks, and status of being the Prince of Wales' mistress. If Charles totally ditched her she'd be stuck with APB there would be no other man that she might take a s a lover who would be as powerful and influential as Charles. I think she was thinking of herself when she interfered in the marriage. Charles asking Camilla for marital help is like Clinton asking Monica Lewinsky about marital advice.
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« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2012, 04:58:27 pm »


All it got her is eternal  *despise*  sly and HE was the one to keep her in his life HE was the one to cheat on his wife but I forgot it is all Camilla's fault (roll eyes) of course Diana's husband had nothing to do with the cheating Camilla sated him to take advantage of him  Tongue that is how it went down.

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« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2012, 06:09:41 pm »

Charles wasn't exactly held at gunpoint and forced to cheat. He did it of his own free will. I think that if Camilla wanted a suitable wife for Charles she should have picked out someone from the Highgrove set willing to share and be "civilized" about it all.
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« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2012, 07:20:08 pm »


Point is she didn't "pick" his wife she was supportive of the idea of him marrying Diana who from the beginning showed she wasn't keen on Camilla that tells me Camilla had no horse in that race nothing tolled her Diana would be "OK" with her being in Prince Charles's life (in any capacity) all signs pointed to the contrary so why would she be stupid enough to "pick" Diana? We know she is not stupid.

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« Reply #88 on: February 10, 2012, 07:27:56 pm »

Diana had little experience dating was not worldly wise like Charles and Camilla were (they were over 30 at the time). I do think Camilla wanted someone who would  not be a threat and someone who would be  a "mouse" and accepting of her relationship with Charles. At first, Diana would spend much time with Camilla at her home and be escorted by Camilla to various events where Charles was participating (equestrian sports, etc). Charles took her for weekends to the Parker Bowleses all of which were duly recorded by the media.  After Diana's engagement to Charles Camilla apparently made Diana suspicious when she would ask Diana if she would go to the hunts or not. Diana said no. It also was known that Diana did not like to ride so it would be unlikely that Diana would accompany Charles to the hunts, a place where Camilla was known to be. Plus there was the purchase of Highgrove by Charles which was a stone's throw from the PBs. I think Camilla wanted to be in the drivers seat and more or less directed the courtship by inviting Diana to her home and trying to "befriend her."  If Camilla was not interfering she would have stayed out of the courtship and did not make the little visits to her home by C and D part of the courtship.
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« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2012, 08:12:04 pm »



   Sandy

                You and I both know this, why don't others?

                        I am amazed at how much PR from Clarence House people have swallowed.

                            I have close friends who were there at the time, it's fact.
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« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2012, 09:38:33 pm »

I am not swallowing anything  sly I am just saying there is no proof to when Prince Charles and The Duchess started being intimate we can't accuse them of things I personally never saw them do yes he was cheating emotionally from day one but Diana knew it and she choose to marry him anyway not that I am blaming her for it she probably thought things would change once they married and was confident enough and young enough to think she could make Prince Charles forget all about Camilla but you can't say she was stupid enough to not know how Prince Charles felled about The Duchess she was 19 not stupid ...
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« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2012, 12:55:41 am »



 ..... then cut the poor lass some slack!

          We've all been 19 years old, and I for one am very glad I didnt make a life changing decision like she did, at that age.

          She did think marriage would mean Camilla would go away ... listen to her own words.. they are on Youtube.. in the Morton books.

           Camilla should have gone away and not continued to whisper in Charles' ear . nor should he have encouraged her, they were much older than Diana and should have known better.. a thoroughly selfish pair.. putting their affair above their families and their duties.

            No matter how much one tries to santize this. it still STINKS.
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« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2012, 09:04:24 am »

Charles is the one who, when asked how long he was faithful, said, "about a month". I remember the interview from a documentary that aired on TV around the time William started university. It was either before or after that movie they made about William dealing with his mother's death. I think the original interview was taken around the time he outed Camilla as his mistress, but I don't remember the exact date that the tape said because it was too long ago.

And it's well-known that Camilla reported the Wales' marital problems to the press; both sides admitted it, and so did the tabs she gave the information to. In fact, they said they were surprised about how open Camilla was about everything, especially her sleeping with Charles.

These are not speculations, but come from "the horse's mouth" so to speak.
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« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2012, 04:09:54 pm »

That is so horribly. He was able to be faithfull one month. He is truly a very mentally sick person to imprison another human being like that.
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« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2012, 07:02:39 pm »


        Charles is a very selfish person, he was raised to feel he was entitled to anything he wanted, and has lived his life accordingly  eating cookies
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« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2012, 06:20:32 pm »

I find it very difficult to believe that PC never loved PD.

After watching video after video the body language towards her was to my eye, genuine.

When he said "whatever "in love" means" - I took that as a remark that said "no one can define "in love".

http://youtu.be/wg_fib2gQaU

Look at the way her caresses her hand/hands - especially almost to the end.

I have never seen this or anything like it between his son and WK.

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« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2012, 06:31:23 pm »

Charles was attracted to Diana IMO. He was very flattered by her devotion to him and obviously to her the sun rose and set on him back then. She was a lovely young lady and from a suitable family, with no past, and fertile to provide him with heirs. That being said. If he had truly loved her he would have totally dropped Camilla out of his life especially since Diana after the wedding made it clear that she was upset by his wearing a gift Camilla sent him on the honeymoon, and keeping C's photograph. I think he felt well that he did her the extreme honor or marrying her and felt that why should she mind if he kept in touch with his ex. Charles also later told his biographer that he was "forced" or "pressured" to marry Diana, statements that don't speak love.
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« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2012, 06:39:56 pm »

I agree about the 'whatever love means' remark - Charles meant it philosophically - too much has been read into this remark IMO.  He certainly looked besotted with her in the beginning, such a shame that it all went wrong  sob
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« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2012, 07:10:34 pm »

I think if the marriage had worked out nobody would have scrutinized the whatever in love means remark. But Charles himself indicated to his biographer how he felt about Diana (that he was "forced"). I t hink if Charles  had dropped Camilla and she had stopped seeing him or contacting him, I think C and D would have had a chance. Even if Charles was not in love with her they perhaps could have worked on the marriage and the relationship. It's hard to have a marriage with a third party lurking about and "there" for the husband.
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« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2012, 08:27:21 pm »

I think he did love her I wish people didn't take as gospel things we never heard him say on camera there is no proof he said those things and even if he did he obviously said it when things had gone soar and he he probably didn't like her anymore people say a lot of hurtful things when they are angry just saying...Diana did too...
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