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« Reply #180 on: August 24, 2013, 09:21:54 am »

Just wondering. Say that the CFO at the company where you work has embazzled money and that he was found out and now the IRS (or an equivalent) and the police and customs etc are all looking into the company where you work with a possibility that the illegal actions of the CFO will lead to the bankruptcy of the company and you losing your job.
Would you be stressed?

Because this is what is happening in Spain. Massive unemployment, over 50% of the adolescents are unemployed. And if that isn't enough, the brother-in-law of Félipe has frauded the government out of several million euro's. This is investigated and as a result the popularity of the SRF is diminishing almost by the hour. And it could mean that the monarchy falls...it wouldn't be the first time in the last century in Spain.

Of course Letizia is worried. For her husband who has worked very hard and is one of the best prepared heirs to the throne in Europe, but also for the future of her daughters.
If she wasn't worried and didn't feel some stress because of what is happening in the family she married into, I would have problems with her, because that would tell me she feels detached from her in-laws. The fact that she worries for them and with them, puts her in a favourable light.

And I say this as someone who, like you, would much rather have seen the European Crown Princes marry nice women of noble or royal background but unfortunately that ship has sailed.
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« Reply #181 on: August 24, 2013, 10:58:36 am »

I'll be honest and be frank; since the marriage Letizia has been in need of endless private time and having problems dealing with the pressures related to being crown princess, long before this recent scandal. So what gives? I mean really, she is supposed to be a source of strength and seems unable to handle the cut.

As for marrying an aristocrat, few such women are lily-livered wimps, look at all Diana went through and kept going. Meanwhile Letizia can't handle having a handsome faithful husband who has fought for her at every turn, two daughters (like Diana never had a chance to have) and her only job is to be a gracious hostess.

As for press coverage, it isn't as bad for her as it has been for royal brides in the past. She also had a career and life of her own.
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« Reply #182 on: August 24, 2013, 12:22:31 pm »

When it comes to what the royals call work Letizia does a lot of it. She has audiences at the Palaces with and without Felipe. She does more engagements than the two Mistresses of the BRF.

I see no reason why she must spend her entire holiday glued to Felipe's side.
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« Reply #183 on: August 24, 2013, 03:43:12 pm »

I do more engagements than KM.

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« Reply #184 on: August 24, 2013, 04:45:15 pm »

Every year the holidays in Mallorca create problems one way or another.

However, this year is interesting because the press are focusing on Letizia's quick disappearance and how she is still not adapted to what people expect of the RF.

Letizia only stayed for five days and went back to Madrid without her children. Felipe went to Mallorca before Letizia and children did and stayed back with the children.

Semana which is a gossip mag but in the serious range put this week Letizia in the cover saying "what is happening to Letizia?".

BTW the article mentions that the little infantas stayed because the king wanted Leonor to meet the prime minister and other politicians to educate her for her future role as a queen. However, Leti decided that she had other pressing things to do and left.

The press talks about a marriage crisis but they are focusing more on how Letizia doesn't understand her role and what is expected of her which is way worse.

For ex how she hasn't grown her role in comparison to her husband and how she is doing less and less events on her own.

Mallorca is a hot topic this year because it is where the trial of Iñaki is happening and a politicians wanted to take back Marivent (residence in Mallorca) from the RF . It was the perfect year to show what a happy family they were and again it was a PR fail.

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« Reply #185 on: August 25, 2013, 02:19:42 am »

She should be used to conforming since that was her career after all; conforming to the public and her employer's expectations of her. Career women are very much so adaptable to the expectations of conformity and expectations of roles. She has no business running out on her kids either, frankly.
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« Reply #186 on: August 25, 2013, 12:36:49 pm »

I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

Letizia and Felipe made their plans and if I were Letizia I would not want to spend my entire holiday with a family that never wanted me around. She gets some needed alone time and the children enjoy some time with Grandparents.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.
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« Reply #187 on: August 25, 2013, 08:58:12 pm »

The last 2-3 years the couple only spend 2 weeks on Mallorca before heading off on a family-vacation (one Italy and last year Greece IIRC) with just the Infanta's.
A very healthy situation in my opinion. People try to read too much into things and especially some people in the Spanish press seem to be hoping to catch Letizia on a faux-pas. The same people who are still fuming that the prince didn't marry a nice Archduchess.
Just imagine that you have to function all year long in the knowledge that some people are just waiting for you to make a mistake/ faux-pas and will eat you alive if you do.
Not many people would be able to cope with that.
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« Reply #188 on: August 25, 2013, 09:18:34 pm »

When you get married into one of this families you enter knowing that you will have to accept certain things. This is the same as is expected with the BRF to expend Christmas and even the summer holidays in Balmoral.

Maybe not staying in Mallorca but spending time in another part of Spain would work. Though this solution could only suit if they gave back Marivent to the gov to be used for other functions. 

Or even if in the five days Letizia spent in Mallorca she had a happy behaviour the press wouldn't try to find fault in her.

How the journos speak about her is because they seem to be at the end of their tether.

Is spending the summer holidays in Mallorca the best holidays ever? Maybe not. But it is a tradition with the SRF. They never spent the whole holidays there: king went with mistresses around the mediterranean, queen visited greece/UK... but their behaviour while in Mallorca was ok and the press got what they wanted so all parties were happy. This "contract" has been broken by Letizia and Felipe.

That she had been spending a lot of time in music festivals that would be more suitable for a twenty year old than a woman in her forties with a family doesn't help to promote the idea that all is happy in her marriage.
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« Reply #189 on: August 26, 2013, 01:25:31 am »

How did she spend lots of time at the music festival when she only went to one concert ? She went to another concert with Felipe, but it was not the music festival. Haakon and MM had a music festival for their birthday, nobody in Norway called them doing things only 20s would do.  Leti did a photo session, went to the official dinner, many pictures of her very smiling, what's so bad about her attitude ?
I'm pretty sure Leti would return the residence to the government without blinking her eyes. JC and Sofia are the ones who keep the residence, the press should tell J&S to return the residence, not Letizia if they think JC and Sofia alone are not significant enough.
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« Reply #190 on: August 26, 2013, 01:36:37 am »

I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

AS Crown Princess of Spain, yes it is her job to be 'tied' to her husband and children; she isn't any other woman.
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« Reply #191 on: August 26, 2013, 05:52:28 am »

Then it is also the job of the man to be tied to his wife is it not? So why not blast Prince Felipe for his separate weekends away from his family (with or without an alledged mistress).

As for the press, they had it out for Letizia from day one. I was in Spain at the moment of their engagement and although my Spanish was and remains rusty, I could understand the zest of the articles and the newsitems. The overall opinion after the presentation was that Letizia had been very rude to interupt Felipe (who was answering a question that was posed to Letizia in the first place). And from that moment on she couldn't do anything right.

While as far as I know (and I admit that I am not a weekly follower of the couple, so perhaps I missed a few things), she hasn't put a foot wrong since. Perhaps not all people agree with her sense of style and perhaps she is sometimes under-dressed, but in these Spanish economic times I think it is better to be underdressed as a royal than overdressed.
But unlike Kate, she hasn't taken her top off, she has never showed her behind while standing on a tarmac, she has done more functions, also in her first couple of years, she worked almost right up until the birth of Leonor and Sofia, she hasn't been running to her parents (or either one of them), her family is pretty much in the shadow (except for that one sad moment when her sister committed suicide and that awful cousin who was trying to make a buck using his cousin with an allegded tell-all book) and unlike Kate, Letizia hasn't been hanging around Felipe for years waiting for a ring. She was her own person, with her own career prior to meeting Felipe. And as a result she is a more mature woman than Kate. A woman who realises that in order to have a good marriage, it is healthy to spend some time apart as well.

Because Felipe may be heir to the throne, he and Letizia are first and foremost a married couple who have to make their marriage work, for themselves and for their two daughters. And making a marriage work is hard enough even without the press hounding you at all occasions.
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« Reply #192 on: August 26, 2013, 11:40:04 am »

I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

AS Crown Princess of Spain, yes it is her job to be 'tied' to her husband and children; she isn't any other woman.

It is not a requirement for any woman no matter who she marries to be tied to her husband. It would be extremely bad for a marriage if the partners were tied together and not allowed to have any interests of their own. They would bore each other to death and the marriage would be miserable.
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« Reply #193 on: August 26, 2013, 01:20:39 pm »

When you get married into one of this families you enter knowing that you will have to accept certain things. This is the same as is expected with the BRF to expend Christmas and even the summer holidays in Balmoral.

Maybe not staying in Mallorca but spending time in another part of Spain would work. Though this solution could only suit if they gave back Marivent to the gov to be used for other functions. 

Or even if in the five days Letizia spent in Mallorca she had a happy behaviour the press wouldn't try to find fault in her.

How the journos speak about her is because they seem to be at the end of their tether.

Is spending the summer holidays in Mallorca the best holidays ever? Maybe not. But it is a tradition with the SRF. They never spent the whole holidays there: king went with mistresses around the mediterranean, queen visited greece/UK... but their behaviour while in Mallorca was ok and the press got what they wanted so all parties were happy. This "contract" has been broken by Letizia and Felipe.

That she had been spending a lot of time in music festivals that would be more suitable for a twenty year old than a woman in her forties with a family doesn't help to promote the idea that all is happy in her marriage.

There has been rumours floating in various press for the past two or three years that Letizia was having trouble with Royal life. It's been rumoured that during the past two years she's been out partying with girlfriends around Spain quite more than usual. Not the normal girlfriends do lunch, but nighttime private parties , but her image is protected.

I think there must be something to this current news.
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« Reply #194 on: August 26, 2013, 04:18:00 pm »

Wonderful idea for a thread!

You guys think that she might end up actually breaking away, leaving Felipe via divorce?

No one thought Diana would and I don't think she's someone who will be able to continue as a royal wife if she isn't coping with the pressures and doing her part as princess. She's human, but the thing is, that Felipe fought long and hard for her to become his wife and she should appreciate it and end up doing things like staying on a gorgeous tropical island and enjoy the comforts of a lavish lifestyle, drop dead gorgeous husband, and of course, the status as future Queen Consort of Spain.
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« Reply #195 on: August 26, 2013, 05:14:56 pm »


There has been rumours floating in various press for the past two or three years that Letizia was having trouble with Royal life. It's been rumoured that during the past two years she's been out partying with girlfriends around Spain quite more than usual. Not the normal girlfriends do lunch, but nighttime private parties , but her image is protected.

I think there must be something to this current news.


The Spanish media tends to exaggerate things, if she went out once, they would make it up as if she went 10 times. The whole July, we only heard her going to one concert at a music festival, the media sounds like she was at the festival every single night. All her girlfriends are career women with a full time job, married or with kids, it's impossible they had so much time for her.
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« Reply #196 on: August 26, 2013, 05:24:39 pm »

I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

Letizia and Felipe made their plans and if I were Letizia I would not want to spend my entire holiday with a family that never wanted me around. She gets some needed alone time and the children enjoy some time with Grandparents.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

I completely agree with you. Letizia works with her husband more often than any other princess consorts, she lives a few blocks away from her in-laws, works at Zarzuela with them. It's normal that she prefers not to spending many days of summer holidays again with her in-laws. This time, it was her husband who decided to stay a couple of more days with his parents, why should she get blamed for her husband's sudden change of decision ?
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« Reply #197 on: August 26, 2013, 09:38:16 pm »

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« Reply #198 on: September 03, 2013, 05:08:35 am »

This marriage is nothing more than a turd stain & Felipe looks like a dip... he should of just married a porn star since he's into those type of females.
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« Reply #199 on: September 03, 2013, 06:38:28 am »

was it so hard for Felipe to find someone without baggage? Someone he wouldn't have to fight for or campaign for?
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