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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2012, 12:11:45 am »

Prince Charles may have to create a diversion to put press attention elsewhere. Hmmmmm   Kate-Horror-Queen
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2012, 12:24:58 am »

Too late; anyhting that tops the Cambrdiges would have to be Camilla photographed in all her naked glory.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2012, 12:28:58 am »

That's what I'm thinking he will use, a continuation of the Cambridge scandal. I'm wondering if a US Hustler type porn publisher will try something with the photos and risk the fallout regardless?

I am not sure of the exact details of the lawsuit but I think if Charles wanted to use more of the story to cover what's coming out about him in the news, he might do it.
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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2012, 01:25:16 am »

Look, there is no way that a US court will bow (I hope) to a UK Royal Family and I am glad this is being done mainly because since he is in a position where bad choices don't cost him anything personally, but can damage others, he has no business meddling in anything or ordering anyone around.
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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2012, 02:37:21 am »

So SG you're saying that charles will use this topless scandal to cover up his own little issue with the letters coming out?
It would be a classic magicians trick: distract with on hand and do 'magic' with the other.. easter-think

You know....do you think he or one of his entourage perhaps...told the pap's where to find them.  sly
After ensuring the youngsters that the place was completely isolated and no way could anyone take any picture of them... shifty
That one picture that showed the spot from wich they took the pic's shows a very convinient opening in the bushes looking right at the house
I was surprised that there were no cipresses or olive tree's surrounding the house it would give some shade and visual protection to the compound.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/14/article-2202895-15046777000005DC-546_634x460.jpgno?

I said it before: this man is a sly fox who knows all the rules and the cheatcodes that come with the game! Cool
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2012, 09:19:14 pm »

Akasha--they've pulled it already?? It says--File not found.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2012, 09:56:19 pm »

ah crap! I'll see if i can find it again,
it's nothing special really, it's just the spot where it is assumed the initial pic's were taken
it shows the huge distance from with the image was shot: the bloody villa is tiny from that viewpoint
but it's clear to see that that side of the villa has no bushes obstructing view.

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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2012, 10:05:16 pm »

So SG you're saying that charles will use this topless scandal to cover up his own little issue with the letters coming out?
It would be a classic magicians trick: distract with on hand and do 'magic' with the other.. easter-think

I said it before: this man is a sly fox who knows all the rules and the cheatcodes that come with the game! Cool

Yup, each day they write about his letters I'll bet more Countries release new photos of Kate.  laugh
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2012, 01:43:26 am »

Oh how I wish there was a way to prove that theory! tehe
We should keep track of stuff like that..
I mean Andy's little issue happened right after the engagement, and was virtually lost in all the wedding mania.
Charly pulled a fast one regarding the royal finances while they were in Canada, I think?
I'm guessing you could say Harry's antic's were a coincidence, but what if not?  easter-think
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2012, 02:36:59 am »

Questions:
Do you thinks this story could damage future of Charles as King?

I meant when he be close be king more stories came out of Charles exceeding limits of his position ... I see in some others forums some people thinks William wouldnt have a monarchy for he be king ... with this stories caming, do you thinks even worse stories could came out when Charles is close be king?

Do you thinks this sort of behavior by Charles (abuse of power/his position) could bring the monarchy down definitely (read:the country became a republic)?
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2012, 02:57:22 am »

Frankly I don't think that most Brit's are gonna go for the idea of republic any time soon. (not in my lifetime and I'm in my twenty's)
The RF has such a looooong standing tradition and if there's something I seem to feel from "the British psyche" after all those years speaking to them, it's a huge unwillingness to let go of tradition just because it's the fancy thing to do (I mean they still drive on the 'wrong side' even if 80% of the world doesn't!)  easter-lol
Why repair something if you don't know if the replacement is going to be better...

So no I don't think Charles or William will bring it down, the RF is too interwoven in "being British"   king
Ask a stranger to name five typical things about Britain and I'm pretty sure tea, rain, and queen will be somewhere in that list easter-wink

Again I'm no Brit, and I'm just saying what I sense from talking to regular British ppl in London and Brussels flower
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2012, 05:08:27 am »

I think the politicos are using the Kate scnadal to go after what they want out of the RF.
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2012, 04:22:36 pm »

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For what I read and heard the monarchy in UK isn't this popular and they arent there all of this years because the people loves & hero-worship them or give much thought to them – I indeed heard one of reasons they’re there all of this years is because the people dont gives much thought to them. In others forums I'm joined have people lives in Britain who says the people of others countries who follows royalty may have a wrong idea than the british population as a whole see the royal family, who are older people is who cares more about the family and for younger generation have the royals or havent really dont makes a difference. They aren't popular and/or always cover of papers or are high topic (in daily basis) there. The people in itself is indifferent and that the comparation more viable in this case will be as that corrupt politician who keeps reelecting because the people, really, became indifferent.

PS. I hope no one jumped in me because I write it, particularly who’s from countries with no links with the monarchy and only because likes follow royalty want made generalizations about what her/his country thinks about the royalty.

PS.I already see royal reporters, editors of mags, newspapers saying it no one give much a thought for/to royals that's one of reasons Charles can marry Camilla. Because the people is indiferent to them when Diana was alive the things were the opposite.

PS.I also read or heard the same thing on others countries with royalty is because it they (the royals) never challenge the PMs et al. Because this I'm asking this question about Charles & the future of monarchy...


But for the country became republic isnt Parliament would decide? I see others forums people commenting William have such dislike/*despise* for his position that could one day decide abdicate and someone else said this could initiate an discussion about royalty is needed or not...


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Dick Arbiter is a true royalist and I dont think he would tell it for nothing ....
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2012, 09:21:57 pm »

I think one or more of the commonwealth "realms" eg Jamaica, Australia, NZ, will become a republic within, say, 20-30 years.

This timeframe will be sped up if the BRF behave sufficiently badly, and one of the biggest risks is PC's political interference.  It will only get worse once he is King.  I can't see HM living past 95, which is a mere 9 years away.

I support the republican movement in the UK but I agree the monarchy is so woven into the national consciousness that it will take longer than it will for the other realms.  In the meantime, the policies of Republic UK can be used to draw attention to the many scandals-in-waiting such as the misuse of money and power.  Short of throwing out the monarchy, there is scope for parliament to make adjustments to the system.  It will be very hard to do, because the monarchy wields so much power in political life.  That is why Republic UK policy is to replace the monarchy entirely rather than push for adjustments.

As PW and WK's stars fade over the next 2 years (as a result of their foolish behaviour causing scandals and making them worse by suing) the UK media might come out of their shells a bit more and start exposing PC's political interference and money wastage more. I think the media is trying to lay off too much criticism of HM in the jubilee year.
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2012, 05:00:17 pm »

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I do think Charles is his own WORST enemy ... I dont doubt he would have problems in accept the limitations & irrelevance (read:he will be only a figure-head) of his role.


Why you thinks the Queen wouldnt live past 95?
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2012, 10:13:25 pm »

^Because while her mother lived to 101, that is extremely rare, and so I've picked a number that I think is more probable.  HM has her father's genes, and none of his siblings lived beyond their 70s.  HM seems very healthy and obviously has the best medical care and lifestyle money can buy, so I think she should last a few more years at least.  PP is nearing the end and his death will be hard on HM.

So in summary, factors suggesting a long life:
-QM's genes
-Good health (she's made it this far)

Factors working against that:
-George VI's genes
-PP's illnesses and death will cause stress
-Most people don't make it to 86, let alone older.

Obviously I'd love it if she lived beyond 95 (as long as she has good quality of life) but I'm trying to be realistic, especially as the politics of the BRF and the UK itself will be dramatically affected when she is gone :(
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2012, 11:25:10 pm »

Charles, if he wants a bigger role, should certainly publish his letters and get used to transparency. Any politician in the US understands this and there is nothing that any politician can get away with half the secrecy that Charles has. The people have a right ot know.
 
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Factors working against that:
-George VI's genes
-PP's illnesses and death will cause stress
-Most people don't make it to 86, let alone older

I don't think that HM can get too far since after all, she's possibly dealing with a horrendous amount of stress and I don't think she can keep herself going.
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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2012, 01:10:00 pm »

How convenient for Pr.Charles and the Queen with the release of letters, that Kate's TOPLESS now Bottomless photos are still the main news story for Royals.

I still think Kate's Topless photos were a great opportunity to divert eyes from news stories someone probably knew were coming.

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2012, 08:44:19 pm »

Indeed  easter-wink
What a coincidence huh? tehe
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2012, 06:10:59 pm »

Prince Charles letters: bid to keep parts of missives to ministers secret

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/12/prince-charles-letters-legal-attempt
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