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« on: April 23, 2011, 07:52:41 am »

 bignono I'm appalled, yet not so surprised at the below the poverty line'' wages of the Royal Household cleaners. I knew royal servants didn't make that much, but not so low! London is very expensive and how dare the BRF pay them so little. They should not renew the contract with the cleaning company, unless the cleaner wages are resolved! No wonder so many want a republic. Shameful to say the least! Funny how the DM never published anything about this...

"A public service union in Britain is trying to get a little of the millions to be spent on the Royal Wedding for the not-quite-living-wage of Royal Household cleaners.

“These people keep their opulent palaces clean and tidy. They just want to be paid a living wage,” public service union organizer Lizzie Woods told the Star on Thursday.

“It’s quite breathtaking, really, when you consider the cost of the Royal Wedding and what little we’re asking for,” said Woods. “We’re talking about no more than 25 workers.

The 25 mostly immigrant workers who dust and mop Buckingham Palace, the palace mews, Clarence House and St. James Palace get paid £6.45 ($10.11) an hour. That’s over the national minimum wage of £5.93 ($9.29) but well under the £7.85 ($12.31) an hour set for the London Living Wage.

The LLW, which is voluntary but has the weight of the Greater London Authority and Mayor Boris Johnson behind it, recognizes that London is an expensive place to live.

Parliamentary estate cleaners, who keep the Houses of Parliament and its various buildings sparkling, won the London Living Wage after a campaign.

Woods, whose Public and Commercial Services Union represents the cleaners, started campaigning in February 2010, to improve pay and working conditions.

On Thursday, the union launched a petition online.

read more here: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/royalfamily/royalwedding/article/978437--royal-cleaners-petition-for-a-living-wage

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 12:51:38 pm »

Of course DM wouldn´t publish it, it´s about unknown immigrants who clean the castle. If someones name was Middleton, I bet they would publish it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 04:30:13 pm »

I think it's disrespectful and thoughtless to pay them so little! The non union, contracted cleaners around here, working for major businesses, get around $13.97 per hour and some union workers get into the high teens and as much as $21.00 per hour, depending on the work they do. "The Firm" is a major business which should be looking for accolades such as "Best Place to Work" and such. ...

I'm sickened by this minimal amount, especially since The Windsors could make up the difference out of their own pockets. One thing is for sure, they're not following in the footsteps of Carnegie, whom vowed to give away his riches through philanthropy. The Windsors seem like greedy tight wads!  thumbsdown
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 06:22:44 pm »

No wonder that there are so many stories leaked to the press....
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 06:29:08 pm »

No wonder that there are so many stories leaked to the press....



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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 06:58:21 pm »

I once defended it because they do get room and board, but now, it's just obscene to pay them so little.

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The 25 mostly immigrant workers who dust and mop Buckingham Palace, the palace mews, Clarence House and St. James Palace get paid £6.45 ($10.11) an hour. That’s over the national minimum wage of £5.93 ($9.29) but well under the £7.85 ($12.31) an hour set for the London Living Wage.

This is such a cheat; they should be paying the legally required sums and then some! Using newly arrived immigrants is wrong too, taking advantage of them.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 07:00:19 pm »

I've always known/heard that the BRF were cheap over the silliest things, but I never thought they were stupid enough to not pay the people who work for them more than a nosy reporter would.  That's a no-brainer.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 07:01:27 pm »

They still think that they live in the time of Queen Victoria. They don't learn from past lessons, do they?
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 07:29:28 pm »

I once defended it because they do get room and board, but now, it's just obscene to pay them so little.

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The 25 mostly immigrant workers who dust and mop Buckingham Palace, the palace mews, Clarence House and St. James Palace get paid £6.45 ($10.11) an hour. That’s over the national minimum wage of £5.93 ($9.29) but well under the £7.85 ($12.31) an hour set for the London Living Wage.

This is such a cheat; they should be paying the legally required sums and then some! Using newly arrived immigrants is wrong too, taking advantage of them.

My understanding from the article is that this is a contracted cleaning company, providing only 25 of their staff members, not direct staff, thus they would not be given room and board. Oftentimes work is contracted out to save money, but slave wages is unacceptable. To pay less than London's living wage is deplorable! What benefits package do these people have? Probably nothing!
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 07:39:38 pm »

The BRF might not be the richest family in the world, but they are more than able to pay something substantial. This is so ridiculous, they are as bad as the pre-revolutionary French. They need to stop playing at being poor and start actually, for once, start acting like they are, royal and wealthy.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 07:53:50 pm »

Their acting wealthy wouldn't be too smart, especially with the heavy taxatioin problems now, but they really should pay their people well to establish that prestige and leave the immigrants out of it.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2011, 07:56:46 pm »

Oh, well, I wasn't suggesting the flaunt thier wealth, but is it that impossible to pay a substantial wage and basic benefits package?
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 07:41:36 pm »

Link to the ad

What do you think? too much money? Or necessary for the royals?

Queen looking for £80,000 a year pilot

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/8694089/Queen-looking-for-80000-a-year-pilot.html

Trips to Balmoral? That's not an official duty? Who is going to pay for this?
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2011, 07:45:20 pm »

i'll take the job!! damn i'm not a pilot  sly Will and harry can take the position there save money
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2011, 01:45:34 am »

Isn't it FAA rules to have two pilots at all time?  I know that's the US rule for heads of state and most everybody who isn't a private pilot themselves, but I'd think there would have to be two on board for safety.  Just curious.  The $ seems in the normal realm, to me.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 02:33:34 pm »

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A total of 13 equerries from the Armed Forces provide "specialist service knowledge and assistance" to the royals in their military roles and engagements, according to the Ministry of Defence.

MPs and campaigners said the posts, paid for out of the defence budget, were "excessive" when the military is facing deep cuts elsewhere. The £960,000 bill would pay for 55 soldiers on a starting salary of £17,265

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23980434-royal-military-advisers-cost-taxpayer-pound-1m.do

I can understand that the queen needs the advise but the Duke of Kent? And the Duke of Gloucester?  huh
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 04:09:00 am »

Haven't they done this for years? Why need advice?
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 06:24:47 am »

I'm having a difficult time, lately, justifying the expenses of the BRF and am welcome to advisors who can explain the necessities.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 06:30:54 pm »

Some of us might be able to explain royal expenses in principal, but as to justify the necessity and/or use of some.... TCP baking cookies
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2011, 09:43:21 pm »

Queen Elizabeth II searching for chief gardener for Scottish home

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