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« Reply #120 on: August 01, 2014, 02:15:15 pm »

If the monarchy is restored in Russia, Putin will declare himself the Tsar. Just like the first Romanov-tsar did in 1613.

As for uncontestant candidate...not going to happen. All lines are clear, all descendants are known. If someone would not come out and claims to be the descendant of this or that Grandduke, that person would not be uncontested for the simple reason that even if that Grandduke married long ago, that marriage would have been invalid because the Tsar did not give his consent to the marriage.

Maria Romanov...contested because 1. She is a woman and after a ruling of Paul I who detested his own mother Catherine (the Great) a woman can not be Tsarina in her own right and can not pass claims to her descendants and 2. The marriage of her own father to a Bagration-princess would have been unequal under the Tsar.

All the others come from even more unequal marriages so are out as well. People like Rotislav are essentially morganatic branches, like the Battenbergs/ Mountbattens are a morganatic branch of the House of Hessen und bei Rhein, which is now extinct.
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« Reply #121 on: August 01, 2014, 04:08:16 pm »

don't think that the russians secretly wish to become kingdom again. especially when they have Putin, jmho
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« Reply #122 on: August 01, 2014, 09:10:51 pm »

Ive read somewhere that Putin is a reinkarnation of a previous tsar
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« Reply #123 on: August 01, 2014, 10:27:13 pm »

^LOL it wouldn't be surprising if he consulted astrologers
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« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2014, 10:35:58 pm »

not entirely sure that these come from actual astrologers. some have posted that he is the reincarnated Tsar Nicolas II (the last ruling Romanov). a russian "psychic" said that she saw that Putin is the reincarnated St. Paul. additionnally, there's an ongoing campaign that builds his image as The real man - riding bare chested, fishing, doing other manly man things. so, imo, he doesn't need to become tsar - he's already ruling the country and doing whatever he pleases and people follow his every word like it's the law.
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« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2014, 10:44:25 pm »

got it, it's like more of his personal campaign to sell his image

But the russians have a yearning for a new dynasty? It's not like the Romanovs were good monarchs.
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« Reply #126 on: August 01, 2014, 11:08:09 pm »

I think the only reason there were discussions about restoring the monarchy (during the Yeltsin regime) was because there was a belief they had to find something to bring Russians together after the collapse of the former "bring Russian together" - the worship of the state.  The collapse of the state left a void.  Now it looks like Putin is using the Russian Church for that purpose.  So they may not need the Tsars..

The thing is re: the convoluted rules about who can be Tsar - they are irrelevant.  Once the Russia of the Tsars ceased to exist so did all of its laws including succession laws.  A new state - the soviet Russia was created - that ended and now another state has been created with new laws again - the Russian Federation.  So the state can create what ever laws they want regarding succession or identifying who the next Tsar might be.  It is like saying the UK needs to bring back electing Kings through the Witenmagot cause that was the rule 1,000 years ago.  The Romanovs can fuss over their rules all they want - they no longer make rules for Russia and if there was a restoration - all would be on the state's terms not archaic rules that are irrelevant now.
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« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2014, 10:52:47 am »

I wonder, what is it about the Headship of the House of Romanov and "Throne" (I use that very loosely) that is so attractive? It's like the Romanovs are going crazy over this, at least Vladimirovna did.

I don't know how else to say this, but if a reality television series were done about the Romanovs and their drama surrounding the claiming of the Headship of the House of Romanov and of course, the "Throne," I am certain that it would get massive ratings. Sheer, pure, entertainment.
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« Reply #128 on: August 21, 2014, 05:42:51 pm »

^ Not as much as the BRF would.  Their reality TV would be rated R and not for royal.
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« Reply #129 on: August 24, 2014, 04:47:33 pm »

Just watch game of thrones.
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« Reply #130 on: September 15, 2014, 01:34:37 pm »

Prince Nicholas Dead

Prince Nikolai Romanovich,son of Roman Petrovitch,Godson of the last Tsar,and Prascovia Dimitrievna Scheremetev,passed away in Tuscany aged 92 thus the announcement by his younger brother,Prince Dmitri Romanovitch.

Prince Nikolai was President of the Romanov Family Association since 1989

R.I.P.

Romanov Family Association:
http://romanovfamily.org/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Family_Association

This means that Prince Rostislav is now the Head of the Association and considered by all (except Maria Vladimirovna and Georgi) to be a rightful successor in the event that the Romanovs would be welcomed back into the Russian monarchical fold. It also means that Maria will now disparage him since Rostislav is her rival.
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« Reply #131 on: September 15, 2014, 07:37:11 pm »

thanks for posting that info KF
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« Reply #132 on: September 15, 2014, 07:48:37 pm »

I contacted them and have the news that they'll be posting the obituary in a while; the Russian Nobility Association, not the Romanov Family Association. I do think that there'll be a lot of Romanovs in attendance. I'll post the link to the obituary that the Russian Nobility Association posts when it's up and running.
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« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2014, 09:35:15 pm »

David Chavchavadze, CIA spy with Russian royal roots, dies at 90

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/david-chavchavadze-cia-spy-with-russian-royal-roots-dies-at-90/2014/11/08/ddd65f86-5ec6-11e4-9f3a-7e28799e0549_story.html
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« Reply #134 on: January 11, 2015, 05:10:53 pm »

The Romanovs as you've never seen them before: Amazing photo album captures the intimate moments of Russia's last royal family just one year before they were exiled and executed

This intimate collection of photos capture Russia's imperial Romanov family like you've never seen them before.

Huddled together on a day out at the beach or around the beds of soldiers wounded in the Great War, the pictures were taken shortly before their 300-year dynasty came to a tragic and abrupt end.

Within a year of the album's latest photos, the Russian revolution swept across the country, Tsar Nicholas II abdicated and he and his family were exiled, before being murdered on Lenin's orders
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2904753/The-Romanovs-ve-never-seen-Amazing-photo-album-captures-intimate-moments-Russia-s-royal-family-just-one-year-exiled-executed.html

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« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2015, 02:45:58 am »

Tragic.
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« Reply #136 on: June 26, 2015, 03:15:34 am »

Local MPs want Tsar’s family back in Russia, suggest Crimean palace as residence

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A regional lawmaker has addressed the heirs of the Romanov imperial house with a request to return to Russia promising them a special legal status and one of historic palaces in Crimea or St. Petersburg.

Vladimir Petrov of the legislative assembly of the Leningrad Region wrote letters to Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and Prince Dimitri Romanovich asking them to become symbols of national culture and maintaining traditions, like in many European nations that retained their monarchies to this day.

“For the whole length of its reign the Romanov imperial dynasty remained a foundation of the Russian statehood. At present Russia is undergoing a complicated process of regaining its glory and worldwide influence. I am sure that in this historical moment the Romanovs would not stay away from all processes that are taking place in Russia,” Petrov writes in his letter.

The politician suggested that this move would help to smooth political controversies within Russia and help to restore the “spiritual power” of the nation.

Petrov added that he and his colleagues from the Leningrad regional legislature would very soon develop and draft a bill “On the special status of representatives of the Tsars’ family” that would give some guarantees to the returning Romanovs. He also said that the royals could use one of the palaces that belonged to them before the revolution and that now remain vacant or are misused.

“To this day a lot of wonderful Tsar’s palaces near St. Petersburg are either empty or used not according to their destination. I think if one of these palaces is used as an official residence of the Romanov family it would only be for everyone’s benefit,” the lawmaker said in comments to Izvestia daily. He noted that another option was to settle the royals in the Livadia Palaces in Crimea.


http://rt.com/politics/269029-russia-imperial-house-back/
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« Reply #137 on: June 26, 2015, 05:13:10 am »

wow - don't know what to think of this - should they do it??
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« Reply #138 on: June 26, 2015, 05:33:19 am »

Once bitten twice shy
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« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2015, 05:51:00 am »

It's only a few politicians from a regional legislature suggesting this at the moment. It may have something to do with internal Crimean politics. If the Romanovs ever got a serious offer it would have to come from someone like Putin, I think, and even then whichever branch is approached would have to think about it very carefully, examining all angles. I wouldn't go back, but then I'm not a Romanov!
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