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 on: August 15, 2017, 03:39:32 pm 
Started by Stephanie - Last post by sandy
Stephen Barry, Charles valet recalled Charles called Camilla "several times" during his honeymoon with Diana.  Camilla was always "there" and I think she coveted what Diana had even though the spin said she never wanted anything.  Camilla knew that Charles was self centered so she catered to him and probably put down Diana to him as much as she could when he complained.  The Queen knew about Camilla and Charles and should have sent APB and Camilla on assignment overseas or given Charles an ultimatum early on. The spin is sickening making Camilla "saintly" and Diana "mad and bad". I don't know how people believe the nasty stuff that Junor writes. Camilla was the other woman and Diana was the wife which is something Junor conveniently glosses over. Charles and Diana should have had maybe one or two more children and settled in to a marriage. Allegedly Camilla advised that he have no more than two children with Diana. I would not put it past her.

I don't think Philip "pushed" Charles to do anything. I think Charles wanted to marry then and have children. What Philip just told him to try to make up his mind and the option was on the table to drop Diana. If Charles felt he did not love Diana yes he should have dropped her. Camilla was said to be encouraging the match so she could have the "mouse" of a wife she could manipulate.

 on: August 15, 2017, 03:16:22 pm 
Started by YooperModerator - Last post by Miss Hathaway
^^   Yes, Carl Gustaf is an awful man.   Obvious favoritism toward his son and distant relationships with his daughters.  The best thing that could happen, in my opinion, is for CG to step down and let Victoria take over.

BECAUSE, despite Victoria's eating disorder and Madeleine's party girl ways, both young women found good men to marry who [appear to] love and support them.  They are [appear to be] happy, loving mothers to their children and represent the Crown well -- Victoria, of course, more so than Madeleine who is moving to a private life. 

Sofia, of course, is horrible.  Horrible.  But Victoria can handle her, I think.

The Swedish Royal Family has seemingly pulled it all together and the women [with the exception of Sofia] can rock the jewels/tiaras like no other royal woman since Diana.  But they have had their problems.

 on: August 15, 2017, 02:26:09 pm 
Started by Stephanie - Last post by dianab
I think it's a abnormal behavior a man in his honeymoon to be calling his mistress (that was going on according to diana and others... not the other way around).

He loved and respected Diana and yes, Diana's lineage was a huge boost in that direction.

I dont think he saw anything about Diana as a huge boost more like a threat... since early 1980s he liked remember her everything she had became was because of him not because of her as a person

Look what she said Paul Johnson:
She told me: 'He [Charles] said to me: they're not cheering you, you know, because you're you. They're cheering you because you are married to me. Get that into your thick head.'
She added, 'I thought at first he was right and tried to be humble. But I'm not married to him any more, and they still cheer me.
So I must have something.'

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 on: August 15, 2017, 02:13:18 pm 
Started by Stephanie - Last post by LadyLaura
I was always under the impression that Charles did love Camilla, but she was already married to the Parker bowles guy....and HM and Phil forbade it, and pushed Diana at him, pressuring him.
thats not to say Camilla was not jealous, Im sure she was and did everything to keep her relationship with Charles going on the side.

 on: August 15, 2017, 01:43:39 pm 
Started by YooperModerator - Last post by HRHOlya
^ Very good summary.

The Swedes put on a good show though for the most part at least, in public; esp to the casual observer. And the younger generation (ie Vic & Madeleine) are, as it looks, raising their kids well/ much better than previous generations; though we'll know that only in the decades to come for sure.

 on: August 15, 2017, 10:34:08 am 
Started by Stephanie - Last post by Stephanie
Campon's PR machine keeps ramming down our throats that Chuck and Diana had nothing in common but they did: both wanted a proper family life and be as hands on as possible.
Both were fun loving and loved an active lifestyle.
Here we see Chuck welcoming Diana on their honeymoon and he obviously wants to show her a good time.
Soooo, Campon keeps calling constantly to make sure the mood turns sour.
At that time her calls would have been "innocent" so Chuck wouldn't recognize it as something improper to do.
But come on, calling a man during his honeymoon is abnormal stalking behavior as any woman knows.

 on: August 15, 2017, 08:53:06 am 
Started by YooperModerator - Last post by Rosella
I don't know that all the Swedish royals are that 'unaffected' and 'nice'. King Carl Gustav has caused a scandal in the not too distant past with regard to nightclub activities and other women. It's been rumoured for years that Queen Sylvia underwent some pretty drastic cosmetic surgery to keep her husband interested as she grew older. She now has, according to many observers, a Joker look when she smiles.

Sylvia was a beautiful woman who enjoyed her good looks. It's been said that she put pressure on her daughter Victoria (who has a pleasant face but is not stunning) to keep slender. As a consequence young Victoria developed issues with food for which she eventually had to get treatment.

When Victoria fell in love with Daniel (her future husband) her parents weren't impressed and they kept the couple waiting for years before permission was given. Sylvia, it's been reported, is quite formal and demands respect, proper titles etc being given on engagements.

Carl Gustav has harboured resentment for years that his son Carl Philip (his second child) was demoted from Crown Prince as a baby by order of Parliament, and has often spoken about it quite openly. There have been tensions between Daniel and his father in law for years, which resulted just lately in observers seeing Daniel turning his back abruptly on the King.

Carl Philip's now wife, Sofie, had an interesting career as a photographic model to say the least when she was younger, that is still spoken about in Sweden. The couple aren't very respected, and it was probably only Carl Philip's status as his parents' Golden Boy that allowed the marriage to take place. Princess Madeleine's husband Chris O' Neill is constantly criticised by the Swedish press and the couple married very abruptly and produced a baby very very soon, something that if it had happened to, say Kate, would have caused the British tabloids to go into overdrive.

The Swedish Royal Family may look very carefree in some photos and Victoria and Daniel are reportedly very pleasant people to meet. However that doesn't mean that every Swedish Royal is fantastic in comparison to the BRF. It's not so. They have plenty of skeletons in their closet, as does every other Royal family in the world.

We only don't hear about it because very little gets printed about foreign royals in the English language press, and because those royals aren't under constant scrutiny by a voracious media like British royals are.

 on: August 15, 2017, 07:26:46 am 
Started by YooperModerator - Last post by kolkomilko
^^, ^ I agree with you. They are very nice people and they are not affected.

 on: August 15, 2017, 02:09:45 am 
Started by Contessa - Last post by FrederickLouis
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 on: August 15, 2017, 12:33:28 am 
Started by Stephanie - Last post by Kuei Fei
I think he did love her, but the pressures of the position caused some cracks and then Camilla wormed her way in. Charles didn't care enough about Camilla to make her a wife and if he truly wanted her, he would have moved heaven and earth to be her husband even if it meant a huge scandal. He loved and respected Diana and yes, Diana's lineage was a huge boost in that direction. I think with Diana he was a lot more straightforward and basically would have lived a more matter-of-fact life and dealt with his problems. However, Camilla was unable to handle the rejection and being left behind and in the shadows (who does handle that kind of mistreatment?).

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