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 on: Today at 08:13:01 pm 
Started by Earl Grey - Last post by Alexandrine
^ LOL I'm a mod too. So I think we are safe  tehe

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 on: Today at 08:10:39 pm 
Started by sandy - Last post by AnaBolena
Legally Cammila would be George's Step Grandmother, but no one bothers with writing or saying the 'step' part because as in most families the deceased are just that - deceased.  It doesn't mean the children don't learn all about a natural Grandparent, but that's my point, they 'get to know about them, they do not actually get to know them and in my opinion it's who the children come to love that will decide who is the love grandparent.

It's not really about who's right and who's wrong or anything so complicated.  It's just children - and if they see someone's bad wolf as loving, they will love despite what anyone thinks.  It's nature.

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 on: Today at 07:50:59 pm 
Started by Earl Grey - Last post by Countess of Holland
Thanks. I didn't know nationalism was already strong prior to the Franco years. But fact remained that Franco suppressed it rather ruthlesly; forbidding even Catalunian names.
When Dutch soccer player John Cruijff played in Barcelona, he used the nationalism quite well. His wife gave birth to a son while she was in The Netherlands. They named him Jordy, a Catalunian name. And since he was born in The Netherlands and registered with a name that was acceptable in The Netherlands, the Spanish state could not prevent this. It is one of the reasons why Johan Cruijff is popular in Cataluniauntil this very moment (that and his success as a player and a coach obviously).

As for seeking independence while remaining in the EU, I don't entirely agree with you. Although the reason why I disagree is more monetary/ financial than cultural. As a separate country, Catalonia would receive their own funds and not be dependent on Spain.

But we are getting very OT now. Sorry Yooper!

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 on: Today at 07:40:52 pm 
Started by Alexandrine - Last post by Alexandrine
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Benjamin Herman, now 79, was the personal assistant or “equerry” to the 93-year-old husband of Queen Elizabeth from 1971 to 1974.

A spokesman for the UK Crown Prosecution Service said Herman would appear in court on Monday.

“He is charged with three counts of indecent assault between 1972 and 1974 on a girl aged around 12,” the spokesman said.

Herman’s role was to attend to Philip’s engagements and personal matters, and he later became the head of the household of Philip’s daughter Princess Anne.

The Daily Mirror reported that police had examined Philip’s official diaries from the time and taken statements from former palace staff.

A police spokesman would not comment on whether former palace staff had been interviewed and a spokesman for Buckingham Palace declined to comment.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/31/prince-philip-ex-aide-on-sex-charges

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 on: Today at 07:39:01 pm 
Started by sandy - Last post by Alexandrine
I separated this lot of comments from the news thread and merged it with a very similar thread that already existed. If someone has a better idea for the title please tell me.

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 on: Today at 07:38:31 pm 
Started by sandy - Last post by Stephanie
http://www.textfiles.com/phreak/camilla.txt ick stop nervous

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 on: Today at 07:30:55 pm 
Started by sandy - Last post by Stephanie
^
 YouGoGirlsign
Camzilla is a ruthless greedy homewrecker who has Chuck by the balls completely.
The Tampon Tapes revealed everything there is to know about their "relationship".

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 on: Today at 07:30:43 pm 
Started by Anne-Elliot - Last post by i used to be a monarchist
Anmer Hall is nearly ready.  I wonder when the Middletons will be selling The Manor and moving in with their daughter and grandson?  I feel any friction between KM and QEII is because of CM constantly pushing her agenda.  Then, another 25 years and the Goldsmith wing in Buckingham Palace will become a reality.  Can you picture Czar Nicholas Middleton haunting the place?  And his tattooed uncle belching while summonsing another beer?

Ugh!  The death-knell of the monarchy as we know it.

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 on: Today at 07:04:01 pm 
Started by Earl Grey - Last post by Alexandrine


As for Catalonia and their wish for independence, this is less artificial than you think. Spain is essentially a gathering of former Kingdoms, Dukedoms and principalities; Navarre, Léon, Castilia, Aragon, Asturia. Catalonia was government by the Count of Barcelona and the Kings of Aragon. Because of a marriage between Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabel of Castilia, the two countries became part of a personal union. But Catalonia kept their own laws and their own language. The independence of the country from Castilia ended in 1700 when the Borbons became Kings of Spain. But the different language remained and was recognized as one of the official languages of Spain.

Only under Franco (1936-1975) the different languages within Spain were not allowed and the people in Catalonia were forced to learn the main Spanish language, Castilian (the Spanish version of 'the Queen's English so to speak). As you might understand, this caused a lot of bad blood in Catalonia, but also in the Basque Country (ETA) that also had to give up their own identity, culture and language. Any attempt to get acception and recognition for their own culture was answered with more and more opporession from Madrid. So when Franco died, and democracy was installed, the long-oppressed want for more independence was like a volcano ready to erupt. As it did in Yugoslavia after the death of Tito who had also oppressed the different culture of Montenegro, Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia.



Not really getting into the argument but a just a note  flower

However, after the nova planta decrees (1714) the main language was spanish/castilian. They even closed the catalan universities and created a new one to stop people studying in that language.

This shows on that for ex the language didn't have a proper grammar until the 20th century.

The bad blood started on 1714 when they considered that they lost the war and that they were a conquered state. The national day commemorates the day they lost the war.

IMO independence is also not a reaction to the dictatorship of Franco. Nationalism feeling started in the end of the 19th/start of the 20th century.

During the second republic they tried getting their independence though it didn't well.

It's a good read the book by Ortega y Gasset (Invertabrate Spain) about this topic. He says that while Spain was an empire it grew and then after losing the colonies Spain would start dividing itself. And well more or less it is working that way.

My personal opinion is that unless you are also getting out of the EU it doesn't make sense to be separate. Be it Cataluña or the Flemish region.

Sorry for the long off topic.

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 on: Today at 06:45:08 pm 
Started by ohmy - Last post by Pense
She keeps two diaries.
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