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Title: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Alexandrine on December 31, 2018, 01:48:04 pm
 :flower: :flower:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on January 03, 2019, 03:13:53 am
'She couldn't breathe and was in an incubator': Duchess of Cambridge's old school friend, famous for her 'elite sex parties' nearly lost her five-month-old baby to a lung infection on Christmas Day
Emma hit the headlines with her business Killing Kittens, which organises ‘elite’ sex parties, but she is a practising Christian.
Her prayers appear to have been answered, because her daughter is now on the mend.
‘I couldn’t help thinking about my old friend over Christmas because we now both have three children of similar ages.’
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/02/21/8064164-6549081-While_the_Duchess_of_Cambridge_left_has_been_relaxing_with_the_r-m-34_1546465871072.jpg
Waity's old acquantance she'd rather not be associated with I imagine.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on January 03, 2019, 01:08:39 pm
I'm glad she's practicing Christianity, she's praying, reading the bible, and I hope God blesses her and her daughter's life, because life here is a light tale, and in everything we depend on the goodness of God.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 03, 2019, 01:30:29 pm
'She couldn't breathe and was in an incubator': Duchess of Cambridge's old school friend, famous for her 'elite sex parties' nearly lost her five-month-old baby to a lung infection on Christmas Day
Emma hit the headlines with her business Killing Kittens, which organises ‘elite’ sex parties, but she is a practising Christian.
Her prayers appear to have been answered, because her daughter is now on the mend.
‘I couldn’t help thinking about my old friend over Christmas because we now both have three children of similar ages.’
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/02/21/8064164-6549081-While_the_Duchess_of_Cambridge_left_has_been_relaxing_with_the_r-m-34_1546465871072.jpg
Waity's old acquantance she'd rather not be associated with I imagine.

I hope she drops organizing sex parties and chooses to live a better life. She has a daughter and that daughter needs a mother who sets a good example and needs to be properly guided without any kind of contradictions or possibility of being maneuvered into that kind of life.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on January 03, 2019, 02:08:33 pm
^^ We don't know whether she's practicing or even believes to begin with.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Alexandrine on January 03, 2019, 04:41:02 pm
Thankfully it went well with Emma.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 13, 2019, 03:11:09 am
Kate Middleton Had a Second Birthday Party Outside of London
Kate Middleton celebrated her 37th birthday on January 9 at her home (Kensington Palace, casual) with husband Prince William and their three children—Prince George, Prince Louis, and Princess Charlotte. But it turns out that when you're a royal, one birthday bash just doesn't cut it. The Duchess of Cambridge apparently had a SECOND birthday party outside of London.

According to royal correspondents Emily Andrews and Omid Scobie—who host royal celebrity podcast On Heir—Kate got to celebrating a little bit early this year. Aside from her Kensington Palace celebration on the day of her actual birthday, Kate reportedly had a private party last Sunday at her and Prince William's country home (Anmer Hall) in Norfolk, England.
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a25867666/kate-middleton-second-birthday-party-2019/


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on January 13, 2019, 11:22:00 am
Oh my, she's getting like Charles who had all those birthday parties. She's getting above herself if she tries to compete with Charles.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on January 13, 2019, 12:30:39 pm
Oh please this is hardly 2 bday parties, it's only 1 and the bday itself it was apparently just her Bill and the kids.

"Normal" people celebrate like this too, because of work, school holidays etc etc. Hardly worth noting and hardly a "competition" with Chuck or anyone else.

I know someone who celebrated their 80th recently and had a 3 day party, that person is as "normal" as it gets (not wealthy or famous).


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on January 13, 2019, 12:34:31 pm
There was never such a fuss over Kate's birthday, I think this year is different because the DM and other sources are trying to push a "feud" scenario.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on January 13, 2019, 12:43:19 pm
Not quite, there have been reports in previous years too of the Cambs hosting friends at Anmer for K's bday. This year is no different, except indeed the stories on the feud. Not sure H attended K's bday at Anmer before, if so he wasn't a regular, I think.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on January 13, 2019, 01:23:45 pm
ISIS fanatics plot to murder the Duchess of Cambridge by poisoning food she buys at the supermarket
* ISIS have encouraged supporters to tamper with Kate Middleton's food
* They have also shared locations where Duchess of Cambridge goes shopping
* In one image, the 37-year-old is shown with a red X on a shopping trolley with the caption: 'We know what she eats – poison it!'
Kensington Palace has been been approached for comment.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6586367/ISIS-fanatics-plot-murder-Duchess-Cambridge-poisoning-food-buys-supermarket.html



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on January 13, 2019, 02:15:17 pm
^Thats freaking freaky!


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on January 13, 2019, 04:13:58 pm
^^Very scary, but why now after all these years?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Ariel on January 13, 2019, 08:39:01 pm
If we knew which mosque they went to it would be  8) revealing, imo.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadyVi on January 15, 2019, 10:23:15 am
from twitter: 'Kate has co-designed the RHS Back to Nature Garden at this year’s #RHSChelsea with landscape architects Andree Davies and Adam White. The garden will be a Woodland setting for families and communities to connect with nature'


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 30, 2019, 04:54:51 pm
How Kate Middleton finally found her voice after 15 years in royal life

It's easy to see why Kate Middleton has always been embraced by royal traditionalists: over the last 15 years, she has perfected the of practice of being seen and not heard.
Sure, on occasion we would get a glimpse into her personality - the infamous eye roll at an overzealous department store employee who yelled at her to wrap faster in New York in 2014 which went viral in gif form, the fist bump with a sick child at a children's hospice in 2013 or any of the many moments between her and Prince William captured off guard over the years - but when it came to her official duties, she rarely speaks publicly. Her job as Britain's Duchess of Cambridge is an ambassadorial role which requires she show up to the right events, shake hands, speak to well-wishers and look picture perfect doing so. In theory, it's a cinch, especially with access to unimaginable wealth, a team of experts guiding you and a supportive partner who knows the ropes better than anyone.

In practice, it can be tougher to master the balancing act, especially in a career which requires you to be an adept public speaker while also keeping your political alliances to yourself. And in an industry that will never forgive you for taking a step wrong. Over the years, Kate's work model has been characterised as the supportive wife, she is often pictured beaming as she watches her husband Prince William speak about any of the myriad issues they hold dear to their hearts, but there are only a handful of occasions when she has stood behind the mic herself.

In fact, she has delivered less than 10 public speeches since her 2011 wedding, which makes her newfound desire to express herself all the more notable. In the last two months alone, we have heard more from her than we have in a decade
https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-features/how-kate-middleton-finally-found-her-voice-after-15-years-in-royal-life-37764587.html


so far so good when it comes to kate, but for the past years this how she always starts every New year with a bunch of engagements then come spring she's MIA


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on January 30, 2019, 09:51:24 pm
I am skeptical. I think it's time for a vacation and there are usually a flurry of appearances before then.

So the writer says consorts should be seen and not heard. SOunds very sexist. Even queen consorts in the early 20th century were seen and heard.

She's been characterized as the lazy wife.

I think the writer likes stepford wives. And much was made of her going to University and for what" To grin inanely?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadySnowWhite on January 30, 2019, 10:47:06 pm
Yep. Though I would hardly call this a flurry of engagements. She is still only getting out to 1-2 engagements a week. I feel January has been quiet even for her.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on January 31, 2019, 05:11:17 am
Am I the only one who thinks that article above's quite pathetic?
^eactly, all that talk about her going to uni and being the normal girl when in truth she seemed to have gone to uni to be Wills lapdog and limpet.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on January 31, 2019, 12:32:06 pm
Right so the University education equipped her to be seen and not heard. So pathetic.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CathyJane on January 31, 2019, 04:43:26 pm
Ma is the the one who gave her that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 05, 2019, 08:09:29 pm
Why the Queen disapproved of Kate’s ‘frivolous displays of wealth’ before she married Will

KATE MIDDLETON, 37, married Prince William, 36, in 2011. According to reports the Queen disapproved of Kate’s behaviour before she married her grandson.
Kate Middleton shows family photo during school visit

Kate Middleton is now the Duchess of Cambridge. She is married to the heir to the British throne and has three royal children. As a young woman she could not have guessed at the royal future that lay in wait for her. Now a royal expert has claimed the Queen took issue with some of Kate’s behaviour before she married the prince.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1082138/kate-middleton-news-latest-queen


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 05, 2019, 08:10:24 pm
Well she is lazy and obviously was sitting around waiting for the ring.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: deGuernsey on February 05, 2019, 08:16:42 pm
^ I believe the press has been allowed to expose both Murky and Waity. Let's see if this continues and if so, expect a lot more to come. We'll see....


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on February 05, 2019, 08:59:50 pm
^^^What is the point of this?  Has war broken out between the two offices?   This is so absurd otherwise.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: deGuernsey on February 05, 2019, 09:24:35 pm
It's not pointless if you want to out the truth or to even just allow it to come out without protecting either Murky or Waity. No more lies and b s for their benefit.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on February 05, 2019, 09:42:11 pm
^Ok. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: deGuernsey on February 05, 2019, 09:47:11 pm
I am wondering who (all) is behind it. Was she expecting this article or something like it during Ma Medds bday bash?

Wow. If this outing continues just think of all the people who can run with it


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CarryingOn on February 06, 2019, 03:22:26 am
^^^^ @Yooper That's my guess. It makes no other sense lol.

Yes the article is true (and I'm one who does believes the Queen took issue with it) but the fact that Kate sat around doing nothing isn't a secret and never was and it was big headlines when it was reported that the Queen didn't like it. Plus, while Kate's a parasite, William was the "beau" (beau lol, what overkill. he had to settle for her) I doubt the Queen or anyone else that high up would draw attention to the fact that he was doing f&ck all also, when that was so long ago.

Besides frivolous displays of wealth? :laugh: Again, not only was William right along and this would be drawing attention to him over something that happened long ago - which I doubt they'd want because like it or not he's the heir - but frivolous displays of wealth is a strong statement for what they then listed. Don't get me wrong, I think all of the vacations were unnecessary and frivolous but at the same time when a statement like that is used, you get the impression that someone is about to tell you stories of how someone dropped $50K in Chanel, $2M on a Lamborghini, and then had a $2K bottle of wine at lunch while sitting in the window of the restaurant so that the paps could get a good shot of the bottle's label. You know, the good stuff. Kate and her family don't have enough money to fit the bill of 'frivolous displays of wealth.' Telling stories of how lazy someone is and all they did was vacation and mooch with their boyfriend is just laziness. This article feels like weak deflection.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on February 06, 2019, 07:42:29 pm
^ My thoughts exactly.
It is also of interest for the Winds to scrub this part of their youth clean, so I wonder why this is in the press.
If K & the Midds showed off "frivolous spending wealth" then what about the Winds? All those socialites etc in media? What is that called then?
Setting the bar very very low here for "frivolous spending wealth"..


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Alexandrine on February 06, 2019, 08:02:05 pm
 The press is also playing a bit trying to look fair. But imo Kate has been criticised forever and papped all her twenties. Now if they had a go at Will....


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 07, 2019, 09:16:36 pm
Kate Middleton Is Ready to Use Her Royal Resources for Her New Charity Campaign
There was no Palace announcement or photo-call, but on Wednesday night, Kate, Duchess of Cambridge hosted a very grown-up dinner party at Buckingham Palace.

The guest list comprised a number of experts who have been working with her on her latest campaign focused on the well-being and mental health of schoolchildren in Great Britain. Kate personally secured permission from the Queen to use the monarch’s London residence.

Behind the scenes, Kate has spent the past year working closely with experts and academics to investigate the correlation between vulnerable young children and those who experience mental-health problems, addiction, and anti-social issues in later life. The duchess launched the campaign in September and has since formed a steering group of health-care experts, charity officials, and academics. They are working together to research whether earlier childhood intervention could make a difference to the lives of the population Kate cares about the most. The findings of the study will be revealed later this year.
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/02/kate-middleton-private-dinner-charity-campaign


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 07, 2019, 10:06:46 pm
^ Yikes!  Yooper!   I was dutifully trotting off to post in the K/M Relationship thread only to find it locked.   

And I have something profound to say. . . . so if this is the wrong place, please move it.
   
Note the sentence in the above article:    Kate personally secured permission from the Queen to use the monarch’s London residence.

Kaboom.  A message from the Queen.  Kate is allowed to use the Monarch's residence for charity events.  The other duchess had her cookbook meeting outside under a tent.   


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on February 07, 2019, 10:12:05 pm
The Queen with her ostrich tactics had better watch out how she promotes and supports this treacherous woman.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on February 07, 2019, 10:54:21 pm
^^Major ‘tell’ from HM.  (I’ll re-open the K/M thread within 48 hrs.)


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 07, 2019, 11:07:08 pm
^ Yikes!  Yooper!   I was dutifully trotting off to post in the K/M Relationship thread only to find it locked.   

And I have something profound to say. . . . so if this is the wrong place, please move it.
   
Note the sentence in the above article:    Kate personally secured permission from the Queen to use the monarch’s London residence.

Kaboom.  A message from the Queen.  Kate is allowed to use the Monarch's residence for charity events.  The other duchess had her cookbook meeting outside under a tent.   


I think it's meaningless. If it's open for charity events it's open to all royals who do charity work. Meghan still outworks Kate.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 07, 2019, 11:27:43 pm
^ . . . under a tent . . . .  lol


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CathyJane on February 08, 2019, 03:05:01 am
 :P :P


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 10, 2019, 12:31:33 am
@KensingtonRoyal
The Duchess of Cambridge’s woodland wilderness garden at #RHSChelsea aims to get people back to nature, and highlight the benefits of the natural world on our mental and physical wellbeing.
The Duchess’s #RHSChelsea garden aims to trigger memories of time spent in nature, and encourage others to go out and create new experiences in the great outdoors.
The Duchess of Cambridge, Andrée Davies and Adam White and @The_RHS are proud to reveal plans for their #RHSChelsea ‘Back to Nature Garden’.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzAKBiqWoAA9dm8.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzAKCO0X0AAi7HU.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzAKABAX0AAoTjp.jpg


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on February 10, 2019, 09:02:35 pm
^ Second picture: The Potato Head gesticulating as usual with her big old man hands.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 10, 2019, 10:25:25 pm
Amanda Platell has officially rewritten history about Lazy Kate. Who made quite the spectacle campaigning in clubs for the media--to show Will what he was missing.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on February 18, 2019, 01:56:19 pm
Queen Elizabeth Helped Kate Middleton Stop Publication of Private Pictures Before She Married Prince William
The photos in question were apparently taken when Kate was on Christmas holiday with her family at Resormel Manor in Cornwall. The future royal and her relatives were photographed playing tennis on Prince Charles’ courts. The Queen's legal team went to work and, um, persuaded all UK press outlets not to buy or run the pictures (which still ran in Germany, where threats of legal action from the Queen's lawyers apparently don't carry as much weight).
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a26377805/queen-stopped-publication-of-private-pictures-of-kate-middleton/
I wonder why this is coming up again now?  ???


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 18, 2019, 02:55:16 pm
^ Perhaps a message that the Queen will protect those whom she deems important enough to protect??  There are rumors that something from Meggles' past will be made public . . .


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 18, 2019, 02:58:10 pm
Queen Elizabeth Helped Kate Middleton Stop Publication of Private Pictures Before She Married Prince William
The photos in question were apparently taken when Kate was on Christmas holiday with her family at Resormel Manor in Cornwall. The future royal and her relatives were photographed playing tennis on Prince Charles’ courts. The Queen's legal team went to work and, um, persuaded all UK press outlets not to buy or run the pictures (which still ran in Germany, where threats of legal action from the Queen's lawyers apparently don't carry as much weight).
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a26377805/queen-stopped-publication-of-private-pictures-of-kate-middleton/
I wonder why this is coming up again now?  ???

I remember all involved got criticized for that stunt. Kate was not a royal then  and she used the team.

I don't think the publication of this shows the Queen won't protect Meghan. It is just a filler.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on February 25, 2019, 09:34:10 am
Kate splashes out on a half-term treat: Duchess takes George and Charlotte swimming at a luxury spa near the family's Anmer Hall mansion

    Duchess of Cambridge spotted wearing full makeup and pearl earrings at pool
    The youngest of the royal siblings, Louis, had seemingly been left at home
    Kate ran swimming races for Prince George, five, and Princess Charlotte, three

The Duchess of Cambridge treated her children to a half term swimming treat at a luxury spa last week.

But ever glamorous, Kate was spotted in the pool wearing ‘full makeup, pearl earrings and her iconic engagement ring’, one onlooker has revealed.

Despite claims that they family had gone skiing during the week-long break, the duchess, along with her two eldest children, Prince George, five, and Princess Charlotte, three, actually slipped into a luxury Norfolk hotel complex - which the Mail is not naming for security reasons - on Tuesday afternoon.

Both children would have been enjoying their half term holiday at Anmer Hall, the Cambridge’s mansion on the Queen’s Sandringham estate.

Her youngest child, Prince Louis, was seemingly left at home either with her husband, Prince William, or their nanny.

Wearing a maroon swimsuit, she tried to blend in amongst relaxing couples but onlookers quickly spotted the family during their half-hour splash about.

Kate, 37, apparently organised swimming races for the children and afterwards they practised little dives off the side. The royal trio then all went into the sauna and steam room.

One onlooker told the Mail: ‘Kate looked stunning. She had full make up one while she was in the pool. And she had drop pearl earrings and her engagement ring. ‘Her hair up in a butterfly type hair clip and looked extremely elegant.’

The royal fan said that both George and Charlotte were impeccably behaved. ‘The children were very well behaved and both were practising their diving from the side,’ they said.

‘Kate was organising little races for them and they did it around four or five times. She said "ready, steady go" and did a downward chopping action in the water to indicate the start of the race.’

Apparently George, naturally, won all the races. They said: ‘He was swimming front like a dog paddle style and jumping in from a squatting position the side.

'Charlotte was doing sitting dives. She was squatting on the side with her arms up in dive position, she kept saying "Look mummy I’m diving in".

‘Kate was very encouraging. At one point George went under and Kate had to grab him, he became a bit tearful and clung to her but then he soon went off again.’

Neither the little prince and princess had arm bands on and were ‘super confidant’ in the water.

Both William and Kate are good swimmers themselves and are clearly keen to pass on confidence in the water to their children.

‘Both the children swam unaided and were super confident,’ the source said. ‘They went under the quite forceful jets in the water. Kate politely asked us if it was ok for them to switch it on.

‘They were doing little jumps off the side into her arms. Kate did not move from their sides. George did ask to go outside to use the hot tub but she said "No".

‘When the children tried to jump in the water , Kate frequently indicated "No" and shook her finger and then she pointed out the no diving signs to both children who then seemed appeased.

‘They went into the steam room and sauna for a four or five minutes each. ‘From my experience, both are usually out of bounds to children under 14.’

George and Charlotte are back in London today for the start of the school term.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6742033/Kate-splashes-half-term-treat-Duchess-takes-George-Charlotte-swimming.html


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Rosella on February 25, 2019, 11:46:52 am
Who goes to a swimming pool and swimming under the water wearing full makeup?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on February 25, 2019, 11:58:32 am
^ And pearl earrings??!! Not just the swimming pool, but also the sauna and steam room!! Those are not places for (full) makeup and pearls.
Also children shouldn't use steam room and sauna, what is up with that as well??!!
 :sly: :Kate: :- ???


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 25, 2019, 01:37:18 pm
Quote
One onlooker told the Mail: ‘Kate looked stunning. She had full make up one while she was in the pool. And she had drop pearl earrings and her engagement ring. ‘Her hair up in a butterfly type hair clip and looked extremely elegant.’

Sounds pretty vain and like those women who go to the gym with a full face on


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 25, 2019, 02:57:29 pm
Was she trying to channel Esther Williams with her makeup and hair intact while swimming? I can imagine the fawning comments for this article.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CathyJane on February 25, 2019, 04:40:50 pm
I doubt she's ever been seen without full makeup; she wouldn't start now. And pearl earrings?!  :shy:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on February 25, 2019, 06:01:47 pm
Making sure everyone recognised her with that "big blue". 

Maybe stories of the ski trip was murkys' friends doing after she was criticised for taking private jet both  ways on her NY jaunt - making ut willy ad waity are just as bad but it turns out they didn't go skiing


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 25, 2019, 07:33:10 pm
She doesn't have full makeup on in the photo in this article where she and the kids are watching polo.  Somehow I think this story [with no photo] is the result of someone else's PR. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on February 26, 2019, 05:35:23 am
Waity needs full make up as she has ma’s nark eye which is very evident without it.  She also has poor skin and a pock marked forehead.  Swimming with earrings and the big blue is laughable.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on February 26, 2019, 12:18:48 pm
She ladles it on with a  trowel so I doubt it would wash off even of not waterproof


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on February 26, 2019, 03:33:56 pm
She doesn't have full makeup on in the photo in this article where she and the kids are watching polo.  Somehow I think this story [with no photo] is the result of someone else's PR
You have a (good) point. It looks more likely they went to ski - it's what posh people does during this time.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 26, 2019, 04:04:39 pm
And another thing fishy about this article, and, therefore -- in my opinion -- the result of a certain person's PR trying to cast shade on Kate, why in the Sam Hill would Kate take her kids, along with security, to a spa full of other people?  She has the Palace pool at her disposal at all other times.  I don't think she'd be so desperate for a swim that she would opt to go to a place with other people like that.  Odd article.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on February 26, 2019, 05:16:41 pm
^I’m not convinced either.  It doesn’t add up. Neither does the skiing thing.  We always get photos of that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on February 26, 2019, 05:47:24 pm
^^ Yeah that's what I also thought. They have their own pools. And K doesn't usually wear full makeup when out & about, esp when doing sporty stuff.

^ We don't actually, they sneak off on holiday all the time. Since marriage we don't get the pap pics when they ski like when they used to date. So far they've only released one pic when they were skiing (last year? The one before that? Before Louis).

It's clear there's a PR war as one story came out and this is a counter-story, but the thing is that the skiing story made sense and wasn't bad and neither garnered bad reactions (quite the opposite), so I can't logically make out whose camp is spinning what...
 ??? :- :dontknow:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 26, 2019, 06:46:29 pm
I don't think either camp is winning. Neither couple is anything to write home about.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on February 26, 2019, 09:18:37 pm
^^Good point about the skiing.  It just seemed to come out to drown some of the outrage over the NYC fiasco.  Wouldn’t surprise me if the media would promote inner conflict.  Sells ink.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: meememe on February 27, 2019, 12:13:17 am
The palace pool is in London. This event, if it happened, was in Norfolk. She isn't going to take the kids back to London from Norfolk for a swim. She takes them to BP for swimming when they are in London but elsewhere when they are in Norfolk.



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 27, 2019, 12:47:40 am
^ Yes, that's why I said they have the Palace pool all other times -- why the need to swim during the week of school break.  Doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadySnowWhite on February 27, 2019, 08:53:27 am
I think even Kate is bright enough not to wear her engagement ring while swimming in a chlorine-filled pool and going into a sauna, with make up that would melt and run and possibly have her photo taken like that.

I don't think this is a true story.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on February 27, 2019, 11:27:53 am
I would not call Kate bright.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 11, 2019, 09:34:34 am
Does anyone remember the wonderful astute blog Enclave 24?
Miss 24’s articles were spot on yet fair but it shut down suddenly.
Here is an article I came across recently.

‘Who is Kate Middleton? After nearly 10 years of seeing Kate’s recorded behavior, this is my impression: Kate Middleton doesn’t care about any causes, charities or anything outside of living for pleasure. I doubt her ability to handle royal responsibilities – beyond dealing with privileges and paparazzi – because in the ten years the world has watched her, she hasn’t demonstrated she can take on anything but a royal c*ck and a jolly good time. While true, she isn’t married to William and isn’t in fact a royal she grabs all the priviledges.’

If you key in Enclave 24 many of the articles are still available.  Miss24 was a brilliant writer.
It would be good to know why she suddenly disappeared - some thought she was threatened.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 11, 2019, 09:48:20 am
^
More of that article

Kate’s perseverance implies she’s in it for the long haul and plans to become the Princess of Wales. As such, she should have taken these years to demonstrate to the world that, although she’s a common-bred, middle-class girl, she’s an exceptional lady who rises above the rest. But Kate has failed profoundly in that respect. The last thing the women of the public should be thinking when they see William’s marital choice is, “What on earth makes her so special? I could have done that/been in her place – and done it better! -Maybe I should have gone to St. Andrews!” But that’s what women, including myself, are lead to think of her. Coming from her background, as a common, everyday girl, it shows her complete lack of humility, and is borderline arrogant, for her to assume she can live like a spoiled brat who doesn’t need to prove herself. She enjoys a privileged life that she wasn’t born into – and for the life of many, we can’t understand why. Why was she chosen? Why not someone else? Why not a woman the vast majority can respect and admire? Let’s be honest here: William can have nearly anyone he wants – and he’s settling for this average circus monkey?’


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 11, 2019, 09:53:09 am
- some more but do look it up - a really good read and if anyone knows what happened to Enclave24 and Miss 24 we would love to know.

‘Those who know Kate often describe her as ambitious; and in the beginning, that’s the side of her the public got to see. Kate worked hard on her academics so she could attend the prestigious St. Andrews University, where William was also set to attend. While there, she met William and completed the same degree as him, in Art History.  Following their graduations, William began the demanding military career he still pursues today. However, surprisingly, the once ambitious-seeming Kate did nothing: She remained jobless for nearly two years, living off of her parents (and William, I’m sure). Kate finally got a part-time job as an accessories buyer at the fashion chain, Jigsaw, but quit after only 11 months. Notably, rumors suggest Kate only got the job to passify Her Majesty, The Queen, who took notice that her grandson’s significant-other was a lazy freeloader. After that, she worked for her parent’s internet business, Party Pieces (which to many read like an unemployment cover-up). Apparently, Kate made updates to their website and took photos for it. That sounds pathetic and hardly full-time. Not to mention, Kate’s monthly getaways to exotic locations with William attest that her parents gave her an overwhelming amount of time off whenever she wanted it. That’s hardly a real job. And if that’s not disappointing enough, Kate quit the job all together in October of 2009 and has officially been doing nothing but shacking up with William while he pursues his career ever since. I’m sorry Katie dear, but for any 28 year old – especially a potential Queen of England – that’s absolutely not good enough.

There are several obvious problems with the reality of Kate’s ambitions (or lack thereof). She was ambitious about her education, but clearly didn’t want or need it for a career – So, what was she even at St. Andrews for, and why was she ambitious about getting there? She graduated from a top notch university, only to settle for unemployment and a job her parents provided? Logically, it’s mismatching for someone to aggressively pursue a top-tier education only to fall flat as a lazy, career-underachiever immediately and permanently thereafter. The fact that Kate did just that leads me, and countless others to believe she was only academically driven so she could put herself in William’s way and try to form a relationship with him. Also telling are the numerous reports by those close to Kate’s mother that Mrs. Middleton pushed her daughter’s attendance to St. Andrews in hopes of her becoming royalty.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 16, 2019, 02:27:53 pm
EDEN CONFIDENTIAL: Does Kate have a rural rival? Friends claim Duchess of Cambridge is battling to be queen bee of the 'Turnip toffs' of Sandringham against Marquess of Cholmondeley's ex-model wife Rose
    Kate fears there is a rival to her rural crown in Rose, the ex-model wife of their friend and neighbour the Marquess of Cholmondeley
    Rose Hanbury, 35, married the film-making Marquess David, in 2009
    They live at Houghton Hall, one of the country's finest Palladian houses

Friends claim there is, however, a rival to her rural crown: she is Rose, the ex-model married to their neighbour, the Marquess of Cholmondeley.

'On the face of it, it's bizarre, but Kate seems to see Rose as a rival,' claims one of their aristocratic set in East Anglia.
The reasons for the alleged competition remain unclear, but there is no doubt the two couples have become close friends since the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were given Anmer Hall by the Queen as a wedding present.

While Kate and William stay at ten-bedroom Anmer, which was previously rented out to a kitchen timber boss, the Marquess and Marchioness of Cholmondeley live in splendour two miles away at Houghton Hall, one of the country's finest Palladian houses, surrounded by 1,000 acres of parkland.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6815681/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-Kate-vying-queen-bee-against-Marquess-Cholmondeleys-ex-model-wife.html

Who wants to be bothered with a lazy limpet, an unacomplished social cllimber faking a psosh accent. She's beyond ridiculous so it's no surprise hat the toffs want to be friends with Rose.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: logically on March 16, 2019, 09:45:23 pm
interesting article.  so the toffs and aristos still aren't placing her on a pedestal.  seems WK name keeps being mentioned with words like rival & competitor.  Maybe she was being active in dismissing MM and fueling hte fire.  Old dating habits die hard


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 16, 2019, 10:56:14 pm
If that rumor of her crying is true, it does not make Kate look good more like a trouble making drama queen. I am not sold on Kate being "perfect." She did not get where she is today by being sweet and nice with all those death stares and all that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 16, 2019, 11:09:11 pm
Eh, this story is planted by Meggles' pr.  She has been shut away while William had an appearance and he and Kate will have the St. Patrick's appearance tomorrow.  Megs is seething. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 16, 2019, 11:10:54 pm
MEghan has not been shut away she is on maternity leave. Why would she be seething? It's an exciting time for her and Kate did not think it so important one year she skipped out of it.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadyVi on March 17, 2019, 10:48:00 am
War of the roses! How Kate's Chelsea Flower Show design is at risk of being overshadowed by a 'vibrant' eco-garden created by a charity backed by Meghan

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6818767/Kate-Middletons-Chelsea-Flower-design-against-Meghan-Markles.html


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 23, 2019, 03:53:36 pm
Kate's 'clash with best friend': Duchess of Cambridge has 'terrible falling out' with ex-model and tells Prince William to 'phase her out of their inner circle'
* Rose Hanbury was hailed the best dressed person at Kate and William's wedding
* However, her and the Duchess of Cambridge's friendship is said to be in tatters
* Kate has told Prince William that Rose should be removed from their inner circle
Kate, 37, views Rose Hanbury, 35, as a 'rural rival' while at home in Sandringham, Norfolk, and their once close friendship is said to be in tatters, according to royal insiders.

Prince William has even tried to play mediator between the two women, as he and Kate have gone on several double dates with Rose and her husband David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley.

However, the Duchess has ignored all attempts to mend fences, and insists that Rose, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, needs to be removed from their circle of confidantes.   :cookie:

'William wants to play peacemaker so the two couples can remain friends, given they live so close to each other and share many mutual friends.

'But Kate has been clear that she doesn't want to see them any more and wants William to phase them out, despite their social status.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6841919/Duchess-Cambridge-terrible-falling-ex-model-best-friend.html

I totally believe this story. Rose is everything Waity’s not so it stands to reason that a tacky poser like Waity wouldn’t want a woman like Rose around as she outshines the commoner every time. Wills must be regretting everyday that he had anything to do with her and married her as she’s just been a lump of lazy troublesome limpet who continues to make him look stupid. Wills will freeze his dumb wife out before he freezes out Rose.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on March 23, 2019, 04:41:02 pm
While I'm sure former Kate would have been jealous of Rose, why would she envy her now? She won. She has the better looking husband, the family, the crown within her reach. This story doesn't make sense and I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan's new PR woman is pushing this stuff out and fabricating rifts to discredit Kate. IMO W&K's marriage is stronger than it has ever been before, and it shows in their public appearances.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 23, 2019, 07:01:10 pm
Kate does it because she is petty and asinine and selfish.

Kate's 'clash with best friend': Duchess of Cambridge has 'terrible falling out' with ex-model and tells Prince William to 'phase her out of their inner circle'
* Rose Hanbury was hailed the best dressed person at Kate and William's wedding
* However, her and the Duchess of Cambridge's friendship is said to be in tatters
* Kate has told Prince William that Rose should be removed from their inner circle
Kate, 37, views Rose Hanbury, 35, as a 'rural rival' while at home in Sandringham, Norfolk, and their once close friendship is said to be in tatters, according to royal insiders.

Prince William has even tried to play mediator between the two women, as he and Kate have gone on several double dates with Rose and her husband David Rocksavage, the Marquess of Cholmondeley.
However, the Duchess has ignored all attempts to mend fences, and insists that Rose, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, needs to be removed from their circle of confidantes.   :cookie:

'William wants to play peacemaker so the two couples can remain friends, given they live so close to each other and share many mutual friends.
'But Kate has been clear that she doesn't want to see them any more and wants William to phase them out, despite their social status.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6841919/Duchess-Cambridge-terrible-falling-ex-model-best-friend.html
I totally believe this story. Rose is everything Waity’s not so it stands to reason that a tacky poser like Waity wouldn’t want a woman like Rose around as she outshines the commoner every time. Wills must be regretting everyday that he had anything to do with her and married her as she’s just been a lump of lazy troublesome limpet who continues to make him look stupid. Wills will freeze his dumb wife out before he freezes out Rose.  :cookie:

Why is she so determined to make enemies? Rose has every right to be friends with William.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on March 23, 2019, 07:35:43 pm
^Kate is not a nice person. She doesn't like other women. Only her Programmer The Viper and her Flat Face Sister. That's why


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on March 23, 2019, 08:22:36 pm
She's obviously extremely insecure


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 23, 2019, 10:30:06 pm
^

That’s what happens when you pretend to be something you are not but ma must take a lot of blame for that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 23, 2019, 10:47:09 pm
Kate had choices; she could have given Carole the middle finger and then gone off to be happy.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: MOSAIC on March 24, 2019, 12:38:14 am

IMO KM has every reason to be very insecure indeed.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 24, 2019, 12:44:53 am
^then mummy would’ve cut her off financially and I don’t think she would’ve been capable of managing on her own.

The story just keeps getting bigger and bigger making Waity look the fool as she’s an unremarkable commoner disrupting things for the Goff’s. Her behavior’s not going down well for them, I imagine, and no doubt she’ll get the boot from the set.  :cookie: They could care less if she future queen consort, she’s a stupid pain in the arse now.
The 'beguiling beauty' Marchioness whose suitors is said to have included Prince William and is now reportedly being shut out from the Cambridge's Norfolk circle on Kate's orders
* Rose Hanbury, 35, has ‘always liked to defy convention’, according to her friends
* She is married to David Rocksavage, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, aged 58
* A former model, she was once rumoured to be a suitor to a young Prince William
* Once worked as an aide to Michael Gove, at the time Shadow Schools Secretary
* Has family including nine-year-old twins Alexander and Oliver, and Iris, three
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6843083/The-beguiling-beauty-reportedly-shut-Royals-Norfolk-circle-Kates-orders.html
The only comment:
stephenjjj2, Tampa, United States, about 3 hours ago
Rose is finished.

Rubbish. Waity’s finished as she looks like the troublemaker. Rose doesn’t need her in her life, so she wins this nonsense of a falling out.
Another thing to distract from Brexit because I’ve no idea why this is front page on the U.K. section of the DM.
She went to a fancy event with Harry. Funny if Waity’s jealous over that even though it happened a while ago.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/d5baee91a222190c9e51170fcc00a94e/tumblr_inline_pougo416HG1wxvcyn_540.jpg


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 24, 2019, 12:49:11 am
Kate has no close women friends. She's used to giving death stairs. I don't think Kate "won" anything, William is not good looking anymore just another balding Windsor and she seems worried about other women around her. This may all backfire on Kate in the long run if she "sees off" friends of William.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 24, 2019, 02:33:13 am
This is a fake story from a really angry narcissist.  Things are getting nasty as things move to the end.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Stargazer on March 24, 2019, 05:00:42 am
^I’ve written it off as a fake story to discredit Kate in the public’s eyes. There is only one person who would be the source of this, no one from the Cambridges circle would gossip about them, nor staff as they would be finished. A very jealous narcissist indeed.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Rosella on March 24, 2019, 05:28:15 am
This is unspecified gossip though, and if it had been someone who wished ill on the Cambridges and the Cholmondeleys a reason for the quarrel would have come out. Meghan does not live in Norfolk.

 Rose C and her husband have been at  the top of the Turnip Toffs that live in that particular part of Norfolk for several years, and there are landed gentry families nearby in that set who are mutual friends of both women that this story could have come from. Rose C is very closely aligned with two of Kate's children's charities and has been very vigorous in holding profitable charity and social events for various causes Kate is involved in, held at the huge stately home in which she and the Marquis live.  Perhaps Kate doesn't wish to follow the Marchioness's social and charitable lead any more.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 24, 2019, 06:26:47 am
The point is...the story isn't true...it's part of a detraction.  There was another unflattering article about W&K today, and a couple of laughably good ones about an angry narcissist.  Sir Geild will reign it in.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Rosella on March 24, 2019, 06:43:57 am
How do we know the story isn't true? We shan't know until somebody speaks about it. I come from North Norfolk and it's common knowledge that the turnip toffs that live there know all each orhers' business.

Meghan isn't responsible for every negative story that appears in the press about the Cambridges. The tabloids make up their own mind as to what stories to print.

Lord Geildt is being appointed as a Permanent Lord in Waiting. It's an unpaid ceremonial position at Court, the equivalent of a lady in waiting. It's often given to retired officials who've served the Crown well, and the Queen wants to reward Lord Geidt for having to be pushed out in 2017 on Charles's insistence. He is HM's Permanent Lord in Waiting, not Meghan's.

The main duties of a Lord in Waiting is to meet and greet dignitaries that come to Britain and BP  to see the Queen. That doesn't make him Meghan's boss. That is  something the Fail has made up and has been followed by the other tabloids.

 The only time Lord Geidt will be seeing Meghan after her maternity leave is when she and/or Harry have an engagement at the Commonwealth Trust. Lord Geidt serves as Chairman there and they may meet sometimes.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 24, 2019, 11:13:30 am
I don't believe the stories about Meghan masterminding unpleasant stories about Kate. And I don't think Meghan is a narcissist.

Kate had negative stories when Meghan was not around so Meghan is not responsible for Kate's bad press.

Sisters in law do not have to be "close." And often they are not. Kate has not had any close women friends so perhaps the story has some credence. Kate is not a perfect saint herself.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 24, 2019, 02:09:32 pm
^then mummy would’ve cut her off financially and I don’t think she would’ve been capable of managing on her own.
The story just keeps getting bigger and bigger making Waity look the fool as she’s an unremarkable commoner disrupting things for the Goff’s. Her behavior’s not going down well for them, I imagine, and no doubt she’ll get the boot from the set.  :cookie: They could care less if she future queen consort, she’s a stupid pain in the arse now.
The 'beguiling beauty' Marchioness whose suitors is said to have included Prince William and is now reportedly being shut out from the Cambridge's Norfolk circle on Kate's orders
* Rose Hanbury, 35, has ‘always liked to defy convention’, according to her friends
* She is married to David Rocksavage, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, aged 58
* A former model, she was once rumoured to be a suitor to a young Prince William
* Once worked as an aide to Michael Gove, at the time Shadow Schools Secretary
* Has family including nine-year-old twins Alexander and Oliver, and Iris, three
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6843083/The-beguiling-beauty-reportedly-shut-Royals-Norfolk-circle-Kates-orders.html
The only comment:
stephenjjj2, Tampa, United States, about 3 hours ago
Rose is finished.
Rubbish. Waity’s finished as she looks like the troublemaker. Rose doesn’t need her in her life, so she wins this nonsense of a falling out.
Another thing to distract from Brexit because I’ve no idea why this is front page on the U.K. section of the DM.
She went to a fancy event with Harry. Funny if Waity’s jealous over that even though it happened a while ago.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/d5baee91a222190c9e51170fcc00a94e/tumblr_inline_pougo416HG1wxvcyn_540.jpg

Duchess Kate is trying to ‘phase out’ her ‘rural rival,’ a local marchioness
https://www.celebitchy.com/614695/duchess_kate_is_trying_to_phase_out_her_rural_rival_a_local_marchioness/#comments

Big red flag that she is always falling out with everyone around her. William has every right to be friends with the Turnip Toffs and she has no leverage to get him to do what she wants. She has no idea just how on thin ice she is.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: michelle0187 on March 24, 2019, 02:14:55 pm
There are so many meg stans are on their knees praying for this to be true. Their disappointment will fade away as time goes by without proof. Then they’ll go back to talking about old news about will and Jecca.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 24, 2019, 03:33:12 pm
The beguiling beauty Kate has 'banished' from 'Turnip toffs': Duchess's rural rival who was once rumoured to be a match for William, loves to defy convention and is a model married to film-maker Marquess 23 years her senior
    Rose Hanbury, 35, has ‘always liked to defy convention’, according to her friends
    She is married to David Rocksavage, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, aged 58
    A former model, she was once rumoured to be a suitor to a young Prince William
    Once worked as an aide to Michael Gove, at the time Shadow Schools Secretary
    Has family including nine-year-old twins Alexander and Oliver, and Iris, three

The first hint that frost might be forming over relations between the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and some of their high-born friends in Norfolk, came when friends of the Duchess said a former model believed herself to be ‘a rival to her rural crown’.

Then yesterday it was reported the Duchess had instructed her husband to banish the offending female friend from their social circle - following a ‘terrible’ falling out.  :bored:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6843083/The-beguiling-beauty-reportedly-shut-Royals-Norfolk-circle-Kates-orders.html

Rose is the real deal having grown up in that environment. Waity's just a common poser who's causing trouble for the set. She can't tell Wills to drop people from his set.
 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Venus De Milo on March 24, 2019, 05:10:00 pm
Well, if the story is true, then we certainly know why Kate has prematurely aged and is so painfully thin.
She still feels has to constantly fight for her position, against women who are more accomplished, eligible and better looking. That is must be incredible exhausting.
Perhaps she thought things would change so long after the marriage, and she is settled in with an heir and a spare. However, the aristo set still doesn’t respect her, they have no reason to, and William still treats her like trash.
Sad situation.

 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on March 24, 2019, 05:17:43 pm
Sorry but I don't see what the big deal about Rose is. She's married to a man old enough to be her father, and she's hardly a knockout beauty.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: MOSAIC on March 24, 2019, 05:25:22 pm

IMO she might just be Willy's non-negotiable, regardless.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 24, 2019, 06:37:03 pm
A certain angry person is hitting out at everyone with this story...W&K of course cause she wants to be them...the Queen cause of the restraints the queen has now put on her...Rose cause she accompanied Harry into a State Dinner with Harry last April in a Tiara!!!... thus making an angry person even angrier cause she hasn't had a tiara event...and poor hapless Harry cause he isn't making all her dreams come true
 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadySnowWhite on March 24, 2019, 08:14:02 pm
So do we know who was behind all the mean, nasty stories about WK before "the narc", then?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 24, 2019, 08:19:27 pm
...and Harry and Rose and the Queen??  Then has nothing to do now.  It's all about the timing vis a vis the events surrounding a very angry woman right now.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 24, 2019, 09:27:25 pm
Parents of the model marchioness Kate has banished from the Turnip Toffs express their surprise at news of the rift between the former friends
    Rose Hanbury's parents Tim and Emma were tight lipped about the fall out
    The 35-year-old has ‘always liked to defy convention’, according to her friends
    She is married to David Rocksavage, the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, aged 58
    A former model, she was once rumoured to be a suitor to a young Prince William
    Once worked as an aide to Michael Gove, at the time Shadow Schools Secretary
    Has family including nine-year-old twins Alexander and Oliver, and Iris, three
Rumours of a rift gained further momentum yesterday with a report that the Duchess wants Rose ‘phased out’ as one of her confidantes, though the cause of the apparent friction remains a mystery.

A member of staff answering the intercom at the Marquess and Marchioness of Cholmondeley's Houghton Hall said: ‘They are not available today.’

And when asked if the couple knew of the allegations reported in The Sun, the employee said: ‘We are fully aware.’    

The report in The Sun newspaper claimed that the alleged rift is ‘much worse’ than has previously been suggested. And it said attempts by William to try to effect a reconciliation between the two women have been cooly rebuffed.  :cookie:

The first inkling that something was awry came when Daily Mail diarist Richard Eden reported that friends of the Duchess claimed ex-model Rose was ‘a rival to her rural crown’.  :bored:

Among their Norfolk set – affectionately nicknamed the ‘Turnip Toffs’ – it was Kate who was always presumed queen bee. ‘On the face of it, it’s bizarre, but Kate seems to see Rose as a rival,’ one source was quoted as saying.

‘William wants to play peacemaker so that the two couples can remain friends, given they live so close to each other and share many mutual friends.

‘But Kate has been clear that she doesn’t want to see them any more and wants William to phase them out, despite their social status.’  bignono   said Waity the commoner

Last night a Royal source said the rumours of a rift were untrue and upsetting. Kensington Palace declined to comment.  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6845033/Parents-model-marchioness-Kate-banished-Turnip-Toffs-surprised-news-rift.html

They seem to have the same horsey look, very thin and constipated look about the; Rose, Jeccca, Waity after the engagement interview. This story and the possible source for it is much intreging than the tacky actress and Harry as this puts Waity in a very bad light with her pettiness and demands.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Venus De Milo on March 24, 2019, 10:44:24 pm
A certain angry person is hitting out at everyone with this story...W&K of course cause she wants to be them...the Queen cause of the restraints the queen has now put on her...Rose cause she accompanied Harry into a State Dinner with Harry last April in a Tiara!!!... thus making an angry person even angrier cause she hasn't had a tiara event...and poor hapless Harry cause he isn't making all her dreams come true
 

It’s quite invincible that Meghan is behind the story.
She has faced non-stop negative press from a united tabloid front for a year.
She doesn’t have that kind of influence in the media, if she did the media would write nothing but sugary pieces, yet she can barely get a foothold.
However, it is interesting who indeed is the source of this story?
If it is true, then it can only be someone from, or close to, the set.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 24, 2019, 10:52:40 pm
Even if it pains her to do so, Kate needs to be civil with William's friends. Other wise down the road it will come back to bite her. IMO anyway


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on March 24, 2019, 10:55:30 pm
A right royal storm in a bone china teacup! RICHARD KAY reveals how rumours of a 'rural rivalry' between Kate and this Norfolk beauty have been the gossip of dinner parties and could be a plot to damage the duchess

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6845443/Rumours-rivalry-Duchess-Cambridge-Rose-Hanbury-storm-teacup.html


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on March 24, 2019, 11:11:11 pm
A right royal storm in a bone china teacup! RICHARD KAY reveals how rumours of a 'rural rivalry' between Kate and this Norfolk beauty have been the gossip of dinner parties and could be a plot to damage the duchess

[...]

I am told the rumours of a falling out between these two attractive young women are false. I can also reveal both sides have considered legal action but, because none of the reports have been able to offer any evidence about what the so-called dispute is about, they have chosen to ignore it.

In fact, gossip started doing the rounds at smart dinner parties late last year. Quite why is still a mystery, but there have been some malevolent undertones to it.

There has been talk that the rumours were got up to damage Kate. So what is going on?

[...]

So does all that add up to a close friendship? According to an authoritative family source, the two couples have been to each other’s homes only three times.

‘They see each other occasionally and like each other,’ a figure close to Rose tells me.

‘They are not part of each other’s close circle. It isn’t even remotely a bosom-close friendship.’

[...]

At first, William and David laughed the rumours off — I am told they even reached the ears of the wider Royal Family. But the latest reporting has changed the atmosphere.

I understand both men are baffled by the rumours and insist there is no rift between them or their wives.

A family source told me: ‘These hurtful rumours of a fall-out are simply false. William and David were in touch with each other over the weekend, not knowing whether to laugh or complain. Both wives are hurt by the suggestion that there is any argument or even a coolness between them. They have plans for future events involving their charity.

‘This is a question of a lie going round the world before the truth has even had time to take its boots off.’ Another family figure said: ‘A whisper which had no basis or truth has turned into a roar.

[...]

‘David and Rose have been to Sandringham and shot with William and Kate, but they have been to each other’s houses fewer than three times each — some rift!’

For William and Kate the developments are especially troubling. They have always been enormously careful about friendships and they have placed a premium on trust.

They have eschewed the celebrity friends that Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex appear to like to surround themselves with.

No friends of Kate have gone chatting to gossipy magazines as Meghan’s have done to People and Vanity Fair.

As a royal wife and mother, Kate has never put a foot wrong, her family are loyal and discreet. She carries out her official duties with enthusiasm.

She and William have not been photographed exchanging so much as a cross word in public.

But while William has never indulged in the kind of ‘what Meghan wants, Meghan gets’ foot-stamping as Prince Harry is said to have done, he knows how important she is as a mother and a future queen.

And if this whole sorry episode turns out to be some cack-handed attempt to dent Kate’s unshakeable standing with the public, it has almost certainly backfired.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6845443/Rumours-rivalry-Duchess-Cambridge-Rose-Hanbury-storm-teacup.html



Actually, this does smell like a smear campaign.

K is notorious for being (or having been in the past) difficult with women (seeing every woman as competitor for Bill's affections).

In the past though, there was also always a reason given for rumours. Not so this time, and that's what's bothered me about this the whole time. That makes this a bogus story to me.

Also, in spite of K's reputation towards other women, it has to be said that the same people have been in the Cambs's circle since absolute eons. That includes women, some of which were actually K's friends if I'm not mistaken, and not Will's.

^^ That's not true. Murky has been slammed more in papers than Waity, as she had a shorter gracing period, but not all reported was negative and sometimes a negative story would come out and a little later a very positive one, either spinning the original story into a positive or a straight up counter story. Has to be said that this is a trend you can see with all Winds.

Murky might not have clout, but any reporter would rub their hands to have a leak, someone who gives them stories, like in the good old days. I would not dismiss Murky leaking. Waity used to have journos on speed dial as well.


IMO she might just be Willy's non-negotiable, regardless.

No, and it makes sub-zero sense why Rose of all people would be Bill's "non-negotiable". The two have never been connected (except briefly many moons ago) and it just makes no sense. Now Jecca on the other hand.... But a Bill & Jecca story/ happening/ rumour hasn't occurred in years, so even there it's like.. meh. If Bill had a "non-negotiable" it would be Jecca, but even that seems to have gone up in smoke years ago, so there's that...

[Sorry for the double post, I edited the above and got an error message, I think likely because I timed out! Feel free to delete the above post]


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 24, 2019, 11:20:39 pm
I think Jecca is the one who is closer to Will than Rose.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 25, 2019, 01:08:16 am
Good to see that there is a push back on this gossip.  The gloves are off and Sir Christopher is back.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CathyJane on March 25, 2019, 01:47:25 am
I think Jecca is the one who is closer to Will than Rose.

I agree. If Willy is going to cheat it would be with Jecca.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: michelle0187 on March 25, 2019, 03:34:17 am
This story is going nowhere and I’m starting to wonder why it resurfaced right after the real difficult duchess had another falling out.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 25, 2019, 08:15:05 am
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Richard Kay is a known RF brown noser. The root of the problem is two people from completely different backgrounds, Kate from a working class council house background trying to be something she is not. It is well known that she and her mother relentlessly stalked PW who was young and naive at the time. Rose is genuine and can clearly see the fake accent, airs and graces and knows about the alleged deceiving of the nation with the s————s.  (Full word in DM which isn’t the first time)
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6845443/Rumours-rivalry-Duchess-Cambridge-Rose-Hanbury-storm-teacup.html






Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on March 25, 2019, 08:38:48 am
I wondered about Kay. Seems too much if a coincidence that this article suddenly appeared. He's being used to put the kibosh on this story. This way the RF seen to be  ignoring the rumours but I bet waity is incensed. I still think a certain duchess is behind the leak to discredit waity. This is turning into quite a cat fight


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 25, 2019, 12:24:02 pm
I'll bet Wiiliam and his scarf are incensed.  The comments in the DM are highly suspicious of a certain angry person....


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 25, 2019, 01:40:28 pm
Will sounds like a real prat with that scarf. I doubt Meghan wastes time on "leaking" any stories about Kate. Kate causes her own problems on her own.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on March 25, 2019, 01:47:54 pm
^^ "I'll bet Wiiliam and his scarf are incensed." lol :laugh: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on March 25, 2019, 02:08:07 pm
In the pictures of Rose and Kate interacting their body language says they like each other.  They aren’t rivals.

To put Jecca, now a married woman into W’s life would be very insulting to Jecca.  bignono


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: michelle0187 on March 25, 2019, 02:13:21 pm
Whoever leaked this rumor to the press is the cause of her problem. Who’s notorious for tabloid leaks and willing to gain or take pleasure in Kate looking bad is obviously you know who. It didn’t change anything unfortunately for her.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 25, 2019, 02:48:21 pm
In the pictures of Rose and Kate interacting their body language says they like each other.  They aren’t rivals.

To put Jecca, now a married woman into W’s life would be very insulting to Jecca.  bignono

Wedding rings from other men sometimes don't count with some royals. Just saying. Not necessarily in Will's case but history proves this.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on March 25, 2019, 08:29:11 pm
^ this sort of history appears very suitable with another pair of royals... where there's much more evidence of this sort of history in their recent past and as they got together...

Jecca is quite a mystery for now. Unfair imply this sort of stuff to her imo
 
I'll bet Wiiliam and his scarf are incensed.  The comments in the DM are highly suspicious of a certain angry person....
Agree. the whole story is odd.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Venus De Milo on March 25, 2019, 10:24:43 pm
Meghan is not behind the story. I don’t think Meghan is as petty and vindictive as others here do. 
Richard Kay actually attacks Harry and Meghan in his article, to make William and Kate look better. That has been the MO of the MSM for a long time now.
However, the situation that arises with this story is to be expected. In 1-2 years time there will be many more negative articles about W&K and other members of the RF.
Once you set a standard of a member of the RF being so viciously attacked, with lies and innuendo, as Meghan has been, it changes the entire tone and decorum surrounding the RF. It will have huge consequences for the monarchy in Britain.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 25, 2019, 10:38:49 pm
Yes, it does set a bad precedent. And it has lowered the bar. Suppose George marries an American divorcee or someone from another country  and so much venom is directed at her. The Queen did accept Meghan as Harry's wife. It's not as if he eloped and brought her back as his wife without telling anyone.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: MOSAIC on March 26, 2019, 10:23:09 am

Personally I think its much more likely to be a courtier in the know.  I don't believe its Meghan.  Maybe they are preparing the ground, laying the clues.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 26, 2019, 04:03:56 pm
^

Courtiers and those in the know leaking all sorts now.  There doesn’t seem to be loyalty anywhere these days.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on March 26, 2019, 04:05:43 pm
it's 1980s and 1990s all over again


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 26, 2019, 04:10:34 pm
Funny how the leaks ramped up when an angry woman married in.    lol lol lol

Let's see if they trickle to a halt now that Sir Chris is back.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 26, 2019, 05:30:46 pm
I think Meghan has better things to do than go to gossip rags. DM cannot stand her I cannot imagine her going near anybody that works there. Why should she be angry she's married now and expecting a baby.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on March 26, 2019, 07:27:20 pm
Once you set a standard of a member of the RF being so viciously attacked, with lies and innuendo, as Meghan has been, it changes the entire tone and decorum surrounding the RF. It will have huge consequences for the monarchy in Britain.

The only person lowering the tone and decorum in the RF is Meghan. She's not a victim.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 26, 2019, 07:52:09 pm
No she's not a victim but some of the criticism is truly over the top with the name calling. I disagree she's the only one to lower the decorum of the royals. The decorum was lowered decades ago. Even before she was born.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadySnowWhite on March 28, 2019, 09:25:13 am
There were negative articles about Kate prior to Meghan even dating Harry.

I mean, just looking back on these 2016 Articles and Random News threads http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,8739.0.html and http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,8916.0.html

Plus the 32 pages of threads about Kate in this section of the Forum will show that.

Why is it that Meghan must suddenly be behind the recent ones?  Who was behind the others before, for the last 15 or so years?







Kate Middleton PREGNANT? The Duchess of Cambridge FINALLY addresses the rumours

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1105755/kate-middleton-pregnant-fourth-baby-duchess-of-cambridge-prince-william-pregnancy-rumours

"There were signs along the way that perhaps she might be expecting.   She would comment sweetly about people’s babies when she was out in public, and bookies slashed all odds than an announcement was imminent.
But then, she was seen out with William at a St Patrick’s Day parade, and she celebrated with a half pint of Guinness."

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


Okay but she downed a bottle of wine just before announcing she was pregnant with Charlotte, so.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 29, 2019, 07:20:42 am
Re the article saying Willy is having an affair with Rose, there is one thing sure and that is that like this comment and similar everywhere -

‘Whatever he does Kate will hang on in there - ma would never let her leave and give up her most lucrative ‘pension’.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: logically on March 29, 2019, 10:58:53 am
^ totally agree


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Ariel on March 29, 2019, 12:19:29 pm
Yes, Kate will be the perfect front of a wife. Sad that this is the goal in life for Ma Mid, the other MM, but I don't think that Will will ever be able to divorce Kate, unless there is a public problem with Will's heirs and they are cut off of the line. Then that will be an issue and with years Kate will be more and more fearful of wife number two.

As for the leaks .. Meggy is a Marke. All Markles live off inside scoops to the press. I doubt it if Meg haven't tapped into that already. How else will we know that PC and C don't sleep in the same room or that Kate shops in Harrods but does not want to carpool with Kate.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CarryingOn on March 30, 2019, 02:56:07 am
There were negative articles about Kate prior to Meghan even dating Harry.

I mean, just looking back on these 2016 Articles and Random News threads http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,8739.0.html and http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,8916.0.html

Plus the 32 pages of threads about Kate in this section of the Forum will show that.

Why is it that Meghan must suddenly be behind the recent ones?  Who was behind the others before, for the last 15 or so years?







Kate Middleton PREGNANT? The Duchess of Cambridge FINALLY addresses the rumours

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1105755/kate-middleton-pregnant-fourth-baby-duchess-of-cambridge-prince-william-pregnancy-rumours

"There were signs along the way that perhaps she might be expecting.   She would comment sweetly about people’s babies when she was out in public, and bookies slashed all odds than an announcement was imminent.
But then, she was seen out with William at a St Patrick’s Day parade, and she celebrated with a half pint of Guinness."

______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


Okay but she downed a bottle of wine just before announcing she was pregnant with Charlotte, so.

Casper the Not So Friendly Ghost :tehe: It’s just a continuance of a very hypocritical MO some people are feigning because Murky’s so deplorable. Now all of a sudden anything negative said about Kate is some conspiracy because she’s such a nice person and has so many redeeming qualities. But the reality is that two useless idiots is just two useless idiots. The other

Murky’s definitely been leaking stuff but that doesn’t mean that every rumor released about Kate stems from her. Plus, I highly doubt she spends enough time around Kate to know that she’s fallen out with another woman that I also doubt she knows very well.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: LadyVi on March 30, 2019, 10:06:39 am
Duchess of Cambridge drafts in former Vogue editor as her secret weapon in battle to stay stylish

Her new adviser is Virginia Chadwyck-Healey, an aristocratic 36-year-old former editor at Vogue magazine.

Known as Ginnie, she is an old friend of Prince William and Kate, and attended their wedding at Westminster Abbey in 2011.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6866705/EDEN-CONFIDENTIAL-Duchess-Cambridge-drafts-former-Vogue-editor-secret-weapon.html


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 30, 2019, 11:14:28 am
I don't think Kate is that pleasant to be around. She probably puts on airs and now is thrilled because she gets fake flattery even though she's not all that and lazy. SHe seems very affected on those tours and appearances and I don't think she's remotely Thrifty. At least Meghan did go out and do the appearances unlike Kate who at the beginning of her role as Duchess sailed on excuses like she was taking time to "research and choose patronages."


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: rosielinks on March 30, 2019, 11:14:49 am
I think she is dressing better nowadays.



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 30, 2019, 11:17:32 am
I don't. She gets outfits together but still resorts to the fugly shoes and tight pants on that scout appearance, she had on a nice sweater look but wrecked it with usual stretch pants and ugly shoes. She is really not all that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 30, 2019, 11:21:17 am
She really is upping her game and coming into her own.  Good for her...and good for the BRF.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: logically on March 30, 2019, 01:37:33 pm
Yes there have been some better outfits lately.  And she has sown up a few more times.  However, isn't it about time ? She was 29 when she married, educated, and been with Willie long enough.  Now we all say she is upping her game.  But what is she upping it from???  compared to what?  Yes Im glad the BRF is getting another part-time worker but she ain't all that.

Why not hire this lady years ago of they knew her?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 30, 2019, 01:45:19 pm
She was upping it from a non-royal to a royal.  And evidently it was with the Queen's approval -- and probably Charles' famous jealousy -- that she and William were not immediately full time royals.  Yes, it's about time, but so far so good. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on March 30, 2019, 03:30:35 pm
I don't. She gets outfits together but still resorts to the fugly shoes and tight pants on that scout appearance, she had on a nice sweater look but wrecked it with usual stretch pants and ugly shoes. She is really not all that.

Careful, careful.  Someone else wore extremely tight pants.  :o

IMHO Kate has upped her game, and I think HM has deliberately drawn out the emergence of W and K. 

 :bored:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CarryingOn on March 30, 2019, 08:48:19 pm
Yes there have been some better outfits lately.  And she has sown up a few more times.  However, isn't it about time ? She was 29 when she married, educated, and been with Willie long enough.  Now we all say she is upping her game.  But what is she upping it from???  compared to what?  Yes Im glad the BRF is getting another part-time worker but she ain't all that.

Why not hire this lady years ago of they knew her?

From doing absolutely nothing, which is not upping one’s game. It’s just actually doing engagements for once. Saying she’s upping her game is a way for some to feel as though she’s somehow outshining Murky, which she actually isn’t. After what, 9 years of doing nothing - and we’re just talking of the years after being married - wearing a few outfits that some deem cute and being seen more than twice cannot logically be considered upping one’s game in any reality. A bunch of straw grasping and even that is being generous.

Could you imagine any of us being 29, neither us nor our spouses having done $hit in life but party and vacation, proceed to pop out several children all being taken care of on the back’s of someone else, then one day show up in a continuance of bland outfits? We certainly wouldn’t be labeled as upping or game and anyone suggesting it would be laughed at for suggesting it.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: YooperModerator on March 30, 2019, 10:38:05 pm
I think it’s fair to say that, with few exceptions, no one takes the BRF as anything but very expensive entertainment.  Kate just seems more polished now.  Will it matter?  Who knows.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on March 30, 2019, 10:57:15 pm
At this juncture, her so called fashion statues shouldn’t be the focus. It should be what she’s about as a so called royal. She’s still very lightweight after all these years married in and unfortunately for her, I don’t see her getting any better although she seems more animated than before.
Kate’s Vogue makeover: ALEXANDRA SHULMAN on how the Duchess of Cambridge has got her fashion mojo back thanks to subtle style tweaks from her chic university friend and former magazine editor
At Vogue, Ginnie was retail editor, a role that involved hosting reader events and industry trend talks.

Her skill was in translating fashion information for real people rather than edgy fashion shoots.

You can see how all of this would be invaluable to the Duchess, whose every hiking boot and clutch bag is analysed and scrutinised.

While Catherine has a very distinct sense of her own style, she is not interested in spending hours poring over fashion pages and reading designer profiles.

Her stylist will be responsible for sourcing clothes for her to choose from, trying to balance the tried and tested with the new and trendy and making sure that her wardrobe can cope with an ever-growing list of public engagements – as well as making those all-important tweaks that can make the old look new.

To this end we have already seen the Duchess in slightly more fashion forward styles in recent months, demonstrating a new confidence in playing with her clothes.

This may partially be thanks to Ginnie, but might also be the result of having seen her sister-in-law, the Duchess of Sussex, seemingly less hidebound by established Royal style and definitely not feeling the need to court favourable public opinion by dressing inexpensively.

While Catherine is not remotely interested in being a clothes horse, she knows that it’s a huge part of the job and will want to be seen as being at the top of her game.

She is an ambassador of Smart Works, the charity – where Meghan is the new Royal Patron – which cleverly helps less privileged women get jobs through mentoring and dressing them for interviews.

Ginnie also runs her own successful styling consultancy, VCHStyle, which has at its core an understanding of how real women of different shapes and ages can make the best of themselves.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6868631/ALEXANDRA-SHULMAN-says-Duchess-Cambridge-got-fashion-mojo-thanks-style-tweaks.html

Trying to distract from the drama of Waity banning Rose from the posh set and Wills because why all these articles about her new stylist helping her?  :bored:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on March 30, 2019, 11:50:47 pm
I don't. She gets outfits together but still resorts to the fugly shoes and tight pants on that scout appearance, she had on a nice sweater look but wrecked it with usual stretch pants and ugly shoes. She is really not all that.

Careful, careful.  Someone else wore extremely tight pants.  :o

IMHO Kate has upped her game, and I think HM has deliberately drawn out the emergence of W and K.  

 :bored:
i liked her whole look during scout engagement. her boots were beautiful and nothing wrong with stretch pants... yup another royal loves extremely tight pants, in any case, what kate wore wasnt that tight neither remotely vulgar

I think it’s fair to say that, with few exceptions, no one takes the BRF as anything but very expensive entertainment.  Kate just seems more polished now.  Will it matter?  Who knows.ahead
true. the fight between charles and william already was bad enough... now with the 2 brothers and their respective wags fighting the monarchy have a very bad future ahead


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on March 31, 2019, 01:15:56 am
There is such fake praise of her in DM comments almost like bots using the same comments 50 times. I don't see her upping her game. she is out a little bit more but her numbers are still comparatively low not much more than when she was not allegedly upping her game.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: CathyJane on March 31, 2019, 03:37:32 am
Totally agree Sandy. Waity hasn't changed; she's the gurning, open mouthed, lazy woman she's always been


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on March 31, 2019, 06:16:44 am
I find nothing impressive about The Potato Head. NOTHING. She has a huge team of people supporting her in all areas: makeup, hair, couture, dealing with her children and whatever else  the hell she wants. This woman is the most unimpressive specimen I have ever seen. She would be a total ineffectual queen consort.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on March 31, 2019, 08:05:36 am
^ She is totally out of her depth, ie inarticulate, lacking in charm, charisma or warmth.  Her ‘trying to look intelligent’ pursed lips, head on the side, pointing and man hand flapping give her away.  Her gurning and mouth gaping are so very unladylike too.  No amount of support behind the scenes can help her as she just hasn’t got it.  This is the result of ma midd pushing her totally unsuitable daughter in to a position she isn’t able to cope with.  Ma midd spotted a naive, unhappy Willy and reeled him in with every trick in the book.  Ma Midd now has to spend a fortune on her paid astroturphers to push their computer buttons and generate hundreds and thousands of gushing one liners whilst KP sits waiting to pounce on anything negative and instantly get them removed or not printed ‘due to complaints’.   Time to report the DM to IPSO again for contravening the Freedom of Speech Act.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on March 31, 2019, 05:25:12 pm
Ma's efforts are in vain though as most intelligent people see through them. She's as dumb as a box of frogs , if she had a brain she'd have taught them the social graces as well as the bedroom ones


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on March 31, 2019, 10:23:36 pm
I find nothing impressive about The Potato Head. NOTHING. She has a huge team of people supporting her in all areas: makeup, hair, couture, dealing with her children and whatever else  the hell she wants. This woman is the most unimpressive specimen I have ever seen. She would be a total ineffectual queen consort.
Agree there's nothing impressive about Kate. But I've the same opinion about every Windsor out there. Old, Liz, old Phil, Anne and Charles arent impressive because they cut several ribbons and read several speeches written by their particluar secretaries through the year.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 01, 2019, 03:20:09 pm
Well, the people Kate meets seem happy to do so and drawn to her.  Children run to her and she is connected to them. [unlike some who children shrink from].  People are smiling and taking snaps and she seems to take more time and be more confident and relaxed with people.



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on April 01, 2019, 03:45:27 pm
^Thats what I now see as well.

Am I the only woman who’s thrown her head back and laughed with my mouth open?  :dontknow: :dontknow:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 01, 2019, 08:46:40 pm
Well, the people Kate meets seem happy to do so and drawn to her.  Children run to her and she is connected to them. [unlike some who children shrink from].  People are smiling and taking snaps and she seems to take more time and be more confident and relaxed with people.



I don't see Kate as all that. Children would seem happy to get a day off from school. I don't see her as a saint. Kate should have been developing a work ethic before the marriage.  She has not yet begun to prove herself, she has had low appearance numbers for years.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 01, 2019, 09:35:13 pm
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I don't see Kate as all that.


We know.

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Children would seem happy to get a day off from school.

Yes.  But these children are happy to get a day off from school AND are drawn to her.  They don't have to be pushed or prodded to talk to her or hug her.  [as with some others]

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I don't see her as a saint.


I'd be surprised if anyone did.

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Kate should have been developing a work ethic before the marriage.

Yes; but thank goodness she is showing one now.

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She has not yet begun to prove herself, she has had low appearance numbers for years.


Many are noticing that she is, indeed, proving herself.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 01, 2019, 09:55:08 pm
She seems to be improving, at long last, so that's a step towards proving herself as well.
Took ages, but we seem to be there. Better late than never.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 02, 2019, 12:32:13 am
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I don't see Kate as all that.


We know.

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Children would seem happy to get a day off from school.

Yes.  But these children are happy to get a day off from school AND are drawn to her.  They don't have to be pushed or prodded to talk to her or hug her.  [as with some others]

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I don't see her as a saint.


I'd be surprised if anyone did.

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Kate should have been developing a work ethic before the marriage.

Yes; but thank goodness she is showing one now.

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She has not yet begun to prove herself, she has had low appearance numbers for years.


Many are noticing that she is, indeed, proving herself.

Miss Hathaway, who is "we"? Speak for yourself and let's have our own conversation.

Now? Really Miss Hathaway. SHe is working more than almost nothing and her numbers are low. Who are these "many" that are noticing. I see no great step up from her.

She needs to polish her appearance etiquette the face making and open mouth laughing could be toned down.

All I know some of the DM comments praise is way over the top, like they are faxed in with over used terms.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: marion on April 02, 2019, 04:28:36 am
I don't really think this is a great surprise but at last it's being openly discussed. It's been said for a long time  that ma plotted and schemed to get her daughter to marry willy.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1108247/kate-middleton-news-prince-william-st-andrews-university-carole-middleton-spt

It's a pity her plans didn't include preparing waity for the  role of wife of a senior royal.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 02, 2019, 01:56:27 pm
At this point, Kate should not be just beginning to do more work. So many excuses were made for her for all those years as to why she "could not" work. And she did not have children when she was allegedly given a "grace period" to avoid work and only appeared now and then. She's pushing 40 and is not a 20 something anymore. Time to do more than grin at children and be scrutinized for her outfits. She needs more serious charities and patronages. And work consistently. Ma Middleton was in there pitching giving William "comfort food" like cheese toast so he could be with a "normal" family.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 02, 2019, 03:47:44 pm
Is Duchess Kate a ‘vaporiser-in-chief’ who ‘eliminates’ all of her rivals?
https://www.celebitchy.com/615859/is_duchess_kate_a_vaporiser-in-chief_who_eliminates_all_of_her_rivals/#comments

I can believe this and at her age, that is petty and unhealthily controlling.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Rosella on April 02, 2019, 03:59:27 pm
The death ray stares she used to give to the girls that used to dare speak to William when they were single have been upgraded to vaporising status, it seems. How pathetic!


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 02, 2019, 04:21:44 pm
I do not think William had an affair with Rose, but frankly, Kate sounds like she's on the rampage and frankly I think she has caused yet another mess.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 02, 2019, 07:41:50 pm
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I don't see Kate as all that.


We know.


Miss Hathaway, who is "we"? Speak for yourself and let's have our own conversation.


The "we" is all the readers of this forum, as you state quite frequently that you do not believe that Kate is all that.

^^ So, Kate Middleton is the only girl in the world who gave dirty looks to other girls hitting on her boyfriend?  I'd say that's pretty much standard procedure.  I remember back in the golden days of ice skating when one Russian ice dancer banged another Russian ice dancer's head against a bar because she {Pasha} was after her {Maia's} husband:

You can't print what Maia Usova, another Russian ice dancer, called me at Spago in 1992, when she grabbed me by the hair while I was drinking a margarita and beat my head against the bar.
She was angry because her husband and partner, Alexandr Zhulin, would rather have been with me than her.


https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1998-02-16-9802150115-story.html

That was a hoot.   :tehe:

^ I doubt that William had an affair with Rose, either.  Nor do I think Kate is on a rampage, but if she is, I hope it's about shutting down the bad press coming their way from a certain short, square angry person.

I think this story is so much  :BS: . . . but it just shows you how damaging narcissists are. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 02, 2019, 07:52:30 pm
I prefer talking to you directly instead of to "all readers" of the Forum. Not everybody has the same opinion.

I don't think it out of the realm of possibilities for Kate to be spreading stories herself. I don't think she is the saintly person some project her as being.

Meghan would not waste her time bothering "spreading stories" about Kate IMO.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on April 02, 2019, 10:01:25 pm
IMO, Meghan would definitely spread  unflattering rumors about Waity because she being portrayed as a perfect royal wife and mother which she’s definitely not, and Meghan the pushy American.

What’s interesting is that Sophie, Edward’s wife, has been taking on serious causes maybe Waity should have if she was a woman of substance instead of a stupid WAG. She’s still doing and taking on dumb lightweight projects that should’ve gone to lower ranking royals.

Kate's 'secret weapon' stylist reveals her tips for buying the PERFECT pair of jeans - including why you should always bring heels AND trainers into a changing room
Virginia Chadwyck-Healey, 36, a former editor at British Vogue, was revealed as Kate's new wardrobe adviser over the weekend and has been credited with imbuing the royal with a renewed sense of confidence in her sartorial choices.

Fortunately for royal fans, Virginia, known as Ginnie, also offers up advice for free on her Instagram account.

In a recent post the stylist, who runs her own business, shared her denim buying guide.

She advised buying a smaller size 'as denim gives' and suggested taking both heels and trainers into the training room to 'ascertain the difference between "smart" and "casual".'

Ginnie, who now works as a fashion consultant and presenter, is working with the royal while her regular stylist Natasha Archer is on maternity leave.

She has been credited with bringing more style to Kate's wardrobe without making her look like a slave to trends. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6876649/Kates-new-stylist-reveals-tips-buying-PERFECT-pair-jeans.html

Perhaps Natash should stay on maternity leave as she’s not a good as Ginnie.  :cookie:  Waity’s clothes has gotten better and less stiff.
She’s been getting a lot of press for her business because of Waity. Is this a form of payment?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 02, 2019, 11:19:56 pm
NOt everybody buys into Kate being the perfect wife and mother. Ma MIdd probably works the boards and PR. I doubt either Kate or Meghan spread rumors.

Kate did not get where she is today by being demure. She posed in her underthings to get William to notice her. Her mother is super pushy.

I agree about Sophie.

Kate seems very superficial to me. NOthing "exciting" about her wardrobe. As I said the woman is pushing 40 and I don't see her doing much more work and it's the same old same old.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on April 02, 2019, 11:40:44 pm
At least she seems to have given up her crotch and butt flashing athough pics still everywhere.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Snowpea on April 03, 2019, 03:08:50 am
^She's worse in a lot of ways. It's all pretense with Kate - way too little, way too late. She's not Queen material.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on April 03, 2019, 04:09:27 am
^

Exactly and when ma midd constructed her ‘business plan’ to ensnare poor dumb Willy she didn’t think about the after effects of achieving her objective ie Kate being totally unsuitable and way out of her depth.  The York girls are far more suitable for that type of role despite their ghastly parents.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on April 03, 2019, 03:03:58 pm
I prefer talking to you directly instead of to "all readers" of the Forum. Not everybody has the same opinion.

I don't think it out of the realm of possibilities for Kate to be spreading stories herself. I don't think she is the saintly person some project her as being.

Meghan would not waste her time bothering "spreading stories" about Kate IMO.

So Kate would bother but Markle wouldn’t?  Markle, the woman who alienated people left right and center?  At least Kate has her family, whether anyone likes them or not; she’s not a woman who alienates people or ghosts them.  That’s a hallmark of Markles.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 03, 2019, 03:13:18 pm
I always have a good laugh whenever Sophie is brought up as an example.    :bouncy:   Sophie's bosoms were photographed and hung up on bulletin boards before she managed to catch the eye of an is-he-gay-or not prince.  Then, she put Ma Middleton to shame in her years of a campaign to get this prince to the altar.  It took what. . . six, seven years?   Finally, the wedding came off.  Then, she put Markle to shame with her using her royal title to attract clients for her PR firm so that she could earn money because Eddy didn't get much and as she sniped at Charles "We don't all have a Duchy".  When she was caught out on that one, she was given a choice of being a private citizen or a full-time royal.  Naturally, she took the full-time royal because that was the whole point.

She then brown-nosed the Queen and became her most-favorite-evah and minded her steps and did what the firm wanted her to do.  And now she is held up as an example.

My point being -- if someone such as Sophie Rhys-Jones can change her spots, then so can Kate.  And it appears that Kate is/has.      kisss


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: AnaBolena on April 03, 2019, 03:15:23 pm
^ :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on April 03, 2019, 03:37:29 pm
The Potato Head's spots are still there and they are the same. This woman does not have the intellectual capacity to change. She may have quit flashing which she did hundreds of times and she may have quit doing the omnipresent crotch press; however, she is still doing the insane gurning, she cannot speak intelligently, and she's still doing the hand flapping with her big old man hands. She just doesn't have it. No Way, No How.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 03, 2019, 03:48:08 pm
I always have a good laugh whenever Sophie is brought up as an example.    :bouncy:   Sophie's bosoms were photographed and hung up on bulletin boards before she managed to catch the eye of an is-he-gay-or not prince.  Then, she put Ma Middleton to shame in her years of a campaign to get this prince to the altar.  It took what. . . six, seven years?   Finally, the wedding came off.  Then, she put Markle to shame with her using her royal title to attract clients for her PR firm so that she could earn money because Eddy didn't get much and as she sniped at Charles "We don't all have a Duchy".  When she was caught out on that one, she was given a choice of being a private citizen or a full-time royal.  Naturally, she took the full-time royal because that was the whole point.

She then brown-nosed the Queen and became her most-favorite-evah and minded her steps and did what the firm wanted her to do.  And now she is held up as an example.

My point being -- if someone such as Sophie Rhys-Jones can change her spots, then so can Kate.  And it appears that Kate is/has.      kisss

Kate though is in line to be Queen Consort and I think more is expected of her than someone married to the youngest child of the Queen. Kate is pushing 40 and should be more polished by this time. And doing more serious things


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Snowpea on April 03, 2019, 07:17:03 pm
^She hasn't done anything for the Monarchy to date. Nothing at all - she's not worthy to be a Queen Consort - she's hardly a decent, functioning and useful adult.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 03, 2019, 07:25:32 pm
^ and ^^ . . . what do you think she should do that she has not done, as compared to previous consorts, both male and female? 



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 03, 2019, 07:43:25 pm
^^^^^^ Miss Hathaway, I agree with you.

I also think that the best Queen Consorts should be a little boring and dull, otherwise she will eclipse her husband in terms of popularity. If said husband is like George VI then it's probably fine, but if he's like Charles then we will have another "War of the Waleses".


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 03, 2019, 08:27:45 pm
^She hasn't done anything for the Monarchy to date. Nothing at all - she's not worthy to be a Queen Consort - she's hardly a decent, functioning and useful adult.
i see your point, but being fair no windsor is that either... including old liz and anne

I prefer talking to you directly instead of to "all readers" of the Forum. Not everybody has the same opinion.

I don't think it out of the realm of possibilities for Kate to be spreading stories herself. I don't think she is the saintly person some project her as being.

Meghan would not waste her time bothering "spreading stories" about Kate IMO.

So Kate would bother but Markle wouldn’t?  Markle, the woman who alienated people left right and center?  At least Kate has her family, whether anyone likes them or not; she’s not a woman who alienates people or ghosts them.  That’s a hallmark of Markles.

100% agree.
And,
From last year until now Kate hasnt been lazy, her numbers arent compared to Anne and Charles but no young royal has those numbers, still some are said 'work' more than Kate, i dont see that.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 03, 2019, 08:49:59 pm
^ I agree.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 03, 2019, 09:17:25 pm
^^^^^^ Miss Hathaway, I agree with you.

I also think that the best Queen Consorts should be a little boring and dull, otherwise she will eclipse her husband in terms of popularity. If said husband is like George VI then it's probably fine, but if he's like Charles then we will have another "War of the Waleses".

I don't think the best Queen Consorts were boring and dull. There were Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra, and Queen Elizabeth. All very popular. Not every monarch had Charles' hangups. A good counseling session or sessions about the jealousy issue would have been of some help to Charles. A dull consort makes the monarch look dull. Charles had this jealousy issue years before the war started.

Kate as a stepford wife would do William not one bit of good.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 03, 2019, 10:01:27 pm
^ Dullness for monarchs/ the Winds is better than excitement. Because to be so exciting and interesting one has to be mostly scandalous. A blushing, charming and exciting virginal lady won't do, esp not in today's times. Also excitement and being interesting invites more and harsher criticism than being dull.

Also it was easier to craft a good image when a camera wasn't everywhere and every move reported. Just today I read a bit about queen Alexandra and she was popular, but her spending was even then criticized, which was partly because she sent money to any stranger who'd ask for some.
Would Alex have been so popular if she lived in a world like today's? (with media ever-present?)

Liz the queen mum's image was also very carefully crafted, based on "being seen, not heard" (impossible today and sth Waity is criticized for, rightly so, though when she opens her gob it's not like intelligent stuff flows out...) and later on "being the nation's granny figure", though she was cunning, controlling and less than kind behind the scenes. What exactly was so exciting about her public image? What she did may have been fine then, but wouldn't look so well today (no speeches, excessive spending, drinking, rumoured favouritism towards great- & grandchildren based on rank and closeness to the throne etc etc). And on top of that she was a rumoured social climber, had her eyes set on the then-p of Wales but settled for his brother (who then became king, so if she was social climbing it worked out fantastically taking the 2nd prize at the time).

I don't entirely get some criticism aimed at Kate, like when she dresses classy (yeah it happens)/ or she's never "fashionable" enough for some (who cares, tastes differ, should she wear catwalk monstrosities and look like a clown to be deemed fashionable?) or when she's "dull".

She must train her public speaking abilities and try to gain some grey matter, along with doing more appearances. And burn all the jeggings, wedges and "nude" shoes. Those are her main problems she doesn't seem to work on.

Same with Camz. Like or dislike her, but she dresses very well, always, and looks the part, pulling off jewels and clothes very well. There's no reason to deny that or criticize for the sake of htred or criticism. There was plenty of excitement around her in past decades...

Another problem with K is what some cousin of hers said when the engagement was announced: if sth doesn't concern her directly, she's not interested. Now that is a humungous character flaw, esp for someone supposed to work with charities and having empathy. But it seems true, as her rapport with kids and interest in them seems to have only grown after she's had kids herself. She's less awkward with them now than she was, and is also interested in issues concering kids (mental health) the age of... yep, her kids' age. Once they're teens, she'll only care about teens and their (mental health) issues and so on.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 03, 2019, 11:55:16 pm
The Queen Mum surely was seen and heard. During WW II she and her husband appeared at the East End and she was very sociable and friendly. Writer Anne Morrow Lindbergh wrote about her in her diary, and said that The Queen Mum was charming and outgoing( she and the Queen COnsort Elizabeth met ca. 1938). In all the newreels she was outgoing next to her more introverted husband. She was nothing like Kate. Ever.  Camilla does not dress well she is passable and her problem is the baggage she has (breaking up the first marriage).

Kate's problem is not what she wears it's she's not shown any sign of growth particularly in her charity work and speaking skills. Being interesting does not necessarily have to include being scandalous.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Snowpea on April 04, 2019, 01:19:05 am
^ and ^^ . . . what do you think she should do that she has not done, as compared to previous consorts, both male and female? 



She's never worked - she only did her mother's bidding - she got into university to be a mattress - other consorts didn't use their children as another excuse not to work - they did their duty and soldiered on through hardships/family tragedies/wars - Waity girl needs a vacation for a chipped nail or a burnt pizza crust. And I can probably say with certainty no other consort ran around displaying their unwashed haunches to the world. Surprised she hasn't sprayed anything and marked her territory yet.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 01:31:04 am
I remember she had that almost no show job at Jigsaw. Her colleagues said she was not there much and Belle Robinson her boss admitted she had to have flexible hours for William. Then she and Will broke up and Kate could not possibly work so she got compassionate leave and never came back. Then after promising to 'work hard' she showed little work ethic and it was even spun that she got a grace period from the QUeen where she did not 'have to' work. Lazy as all get out.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: michelle0187 on April 04, 2019, 06:27:10 am
I always have a good laugh whenever Sophie is brought up as an example.    :bouncy:   Sophie's bosoms were photographed and hung up on bulletin boards before she managed to catch the eye of an is-he-gay-or not prince.  Then, she put Ma Middleton to shame in her years of a campaign to get this prince to the altar.  It took what. . . six, seven years?   Finally, the wedding came off.  Then, she put Markle to shame with her using her royal title to attract clients for her PR firm so that she could earn money because Eddy didn't get much and as she sniped at Charles "We don't all have a Duchy".  When she was caught out on that one, she was given a choice of being a private citizen or a full-time royal.  Naturally, she took the full-time royal because that was the whole point.

She then brown-nosed the Queen and became her most-favorite-evah and minded her steps and did what the firm wanted her to do.  And now she is held up as an example.

My point being -- if someone such as Sophie Rhys-Jones can change her spots, then so can Kate.  And it appears that Kate is/has.      kisss

Couldn’t agree more about Kate.

I didn’t know Sophie messed up that bad.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 04, 2019, 08:40:06 am
The Queen Mum surely was seen and heard. During WW II she and her husband appeared at the East End and she was very sociable and friendly. Writer Anne Morrow Lindbergh wrote about her in her diary, and said that The Queen Mum was charming and outgoing( she and the Queen COnsort Elizabeth met ca. 1938). In all the newreels she was outgoing next to her more introverted husband. She was nothing like Kate. Ever.  Camilla does not dress well she is passable and her problem is the baggage she has (breaking up the first marriage).

Kate's problem is not what she wears it's she's not shown any sign of growth particularly in her charity work and speaking skills. Being interesting does not necessarily have to include being scandalous.

I agree with Kate needing to improve her speaking skills, but so does other royals, even the Queen and Prince Charles look on their notes from time to time, and Harry even mumbles sometimes.

As for QEQM, yes, she was seen and heard, but she didn't cling to her husband in public, she didn't make an event to be all about herself, and she certainly wasn't political.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 04, 2019, 01:53:29 pm
Queen Mary and QM definitely were dull and boring (+cold+cunning), and were respected for those qualities. Exciting one was Wallis Duchess of Windosr. QM was never described as exciting but 'sweet with duty sense' as well as being a 2 faced b i tch. I think Alexandra must have been a sensitive and kind woman but not a revolutionary princess like Diana or Sisi. And Yes charles wasnt the only or 1rst cheater in this family like some wants make that


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 04, 2019, 03:20:02 pm
My response to the comparisons of Mary, Alexandra and the QM to Kate is this:

I am sure some of you are familiar with how Mary came to bag George.  Her mother -- Fat Mary -- would put Ma Middleton and Sophie Rhys-Jones to shame in the Bagging A Prince category.   Mary (then May), you know, was engaged to Eddie who was the Heir to the Throne.  Eddie was so disobliging as to die, and so Mama and Papa Teck, panicking that their good fortune was snatched from them -- immediately threw themselves into all-out stalking to tout May as the wife for younger brother George.  Because Victoria was fond of May and thought she would be a good queen, it came off.  Mary was a formidable queen, but she was known to take items from shops or even homes she visited if she like it.  Stealing, actually. 

The Queen Mother married Bertie -- not because she wanted to -- but she was the one who put the backbone in poor stuttering knock-kneed Bertie.  She really didn't do that much according to those who want extensive education and careers.  She would put on a flowery hat and a smile and pretend that she was following Bertie, but she was actually the one who was pushing him to be kingly.   Oh, and also the one at the head of the Never-Let-David-And-Wallis-Back-In-Britain and no HRH for her!  She did not want her girls formally educated.

Kate went to college.  She did not have a career.  I think she should have.  But she didn't and so here we are now.  The past is over and what matters is now and going forward.  Right now she is doing well.  Her popularity is growing.  Not here with some in this forum, but in the public.  She is friendly and chatty, just like the QM.  Children and dogs like her.   She knows her place in the ranking and is fine with that.   A BIG plus for the royals!!   

Keep in mind -- the Royal Family was never going to let another Diana happen again.  Diana did not try to overshadow Charles or anyone else until the end when she felt disrespected by her husband and his cronies.  She just had that charisma that made her stand out above everyone.    No one else has that "it", nor will there ever be another one.    Remember that when Eddy started dating Sophie Rhys-Jones, the Queen commented that 'No one would notice her in a crowd."     Hahahhaha.   Well, I'm sure that made Sophie unhappy, but that was exactly what the Royals were looking for in future wives.

In my opinion, Kate was not and is not put out a lot because that was the wish of the Royals.  They wanted her introduction into public life to be slow and steady, so there would be no more Diana-type hijacks.  And Kate is steadily upping her game.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 03:35:38 pm
^^ I also think Alexandra was the warmest of the women. Definitely in the mother-department she was different, being around her kids and suffering when they were sent away for their education and training.

^ Excellent summary. There's always this "be like XY", but when looking at these people closely and really looking at them, turns out they were all social climbers, opportunists, and bad people. Mary was indeed a big thief, even in big posh houses of friends. "oh I like that painting" and bam! it was gone.

I watched a documentary the other day and it is astounding how the aristocracy was in Victorian times (not only then, but the focus was that period) and they were all social climbers. They bankrupted themselves hosting royalty in hopes of further advancement. Which then brought on travel to be en vogue and not hosting, as that was cheaper and involved fewer people..

And no, Liz the queen mum was not heard. She went about chatting, yes, just like any Windsor on an engagement, but she was not heard! She didn't give speeches, she didn't talk to the press, nothing.

Kate also chats and has given a handful of terribly recited/ read speeches. She has been heard a lot more than Liz the qm.

The Midds are really not that different from other inlaws or aristos even.

Katiekins has still to improve a lot, but she seems to somewhat inch there, at a snail's pace. (the thing that baffles me the most is that she's not interested in anything that doesn't directly concern her! wtf how ignorant can one person be? and that she isn't taking lessons in public speaking)


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 04, 2019, 03:55:28 pm
^ Thank you, and good points yourself.  I would add to your comment that Alexandra was a loving mother -- yes, but, unfortunately, to the point of being a wee bit smothering.   Oh, well.  We all have our faults!   :hi:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 03:59:45 pm
^^ Oh and to add Liz the qm was not heard as she never ever gave her opinion publicly on anything.

^  :thankyou:
Indeed, can't be perfect :sigh: But Alex was I think as good as it could ever be.... And props to Mary for forcing Liz the qm to give her daughters at least somewhat of an education!!!


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 04:38:40 pm
^^ I also think Alexandra was the warmest of the women. Definitely in the mother-department she was different, being around her kids and suffering when they were sent away for their education and training.

^ Excellent summary. There's always this "be like XY", but when looking at these people closely and really looking at them, turns out they were all social climbers, opportunists, and bad people. Mary was indeed a big thief, even in big posh houses of friends. "oh I like that painting" and bam! it was gone.

I watched a documentary the other day and it is astounding how the aristocracy was in Victorian times (not only then, but the focus was that period) and they were all social climbers. They bankrupted themselves hosting royalty in hopes of further advancement. Which then brought on travel to be en vogue and not hosting, as that was cheaper and involved fewer people..

And no, Liz the queen mum was not heard. She went about chatting, yes, just like any Windsor on an engagement, but she was not heard! She didn't give speeches, she didn't talk to the press, nothing.

Kate also chats and has given a handful of terribly recited/ read speeches. She has been heard a lot more than Liz the qm.

The Midds are really not that different from other inlaws or aristos even.

Katiekins has still to improve a lot, but she seems to somewhat inch there, at a snail's pace. (the thing that baffles me the most is that she's not interested in anything that doesn't directly concern her! wtf how ignorant can one person be? and that she isn't taking lessons in public speaking)

What I meant was she was heard speaking to people and not just quietly following her husband around. She spoke to the people directly and she did make public statements like she could now look the East End in the Face. She was articulate and her comments got out there.

Kate's parents were working class and her mother had super ambitions for all her children. I see them as very different.

The Queen Mum did a lot more than 'chat.' I have seen newsreels and she clearly seems to me that she was a force to be reckoned with.

I think charles had the hang up of being 'overshadowed." George VI genuinely appreciated his wife's popularity.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 05:04:29 pm
^ Kate chats as well and doesn't just follow Bill mutely around.
Comments get out there made by anyone (incl. Liz, just remember the very well placed and publicized comment before the Scottish independence vote).

Kate's mum is working class (at least she was born as such, she's mostly lived as middle class though), but her dad was middle class and K grew up middle class thanks to Mike and his family.
I don't see them as different at all. Anyone in history you look at had either ambitions for themselves, their offspring or both themselves and their offspring.
What makes aristos' social climbing better than working/ middle class is beyond me, as the aristos already have it very cushy, whereas the other classes don't.

Yes, Chucky doesn't like being overshadowed and Geroge with his low self-esteem (due to stuttering and the fear of his position as king) certainly appreciated someone who would take the spotlight off of him and act as his backbone.

Even historians (incl those who worked with the Winds!) say Liz qm was all about being seen but not heard, which is quite obvious looking back, so I don't know why that is now disputed so much here.

It was even put into the public to gauge mood how Waity wants to model herself after Liz qm as being seen but not heard, because her speaking performance is somewhat lacking, to put it mildly.

If she were interested in more than just what concerns her directly, she could have learnt and grown so much by now, making for very intelligent conversation, but nope...


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 05:45:57 pm
Kate's chatty comments are nothing compared to the Queen Mum's very quotable comments during a time of War.

They are different. At the same time, they supported their daughter as she waited for the ring and through various cooling off periods and breakups. They were working class who wanted to social climb. And still do, Ma Midds appears to wants James to marry well.

Aristos from prominent families are sought after by royals. The daughters don't need to go to the same school to find the royal, the royals find them. William allegedly was interested in women from aristo families and during the breakup with Kate in 2007 was pursuing Isabella Calthorpe who did not reciprocate his interest.

I think Charles was and is the one with poor self esteem. George VI was confident in himself not to be petty and jealous like his grandson.

Hitler called the Queen Mum (then Queen Elizabeth) as the most dangerous woman in Europe. Kate could hardly rise to that level.

http://elinorflorence.com/blog/117662

I don't get where the image of her came as not seen and heard. The woman was most definitely heard. She was a very strong speaker and she indeed spoke.

Kate will never come even close to the Queen Mum in influence.



Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 04, 2019, 05:47:13 pm
agree 100% with HRHOlya and Miss Hathaway

Disagree qm being 'a force to be reckoned with'... she had her 'grand moment' during the war... during engagements she wasnt any different than was expected from royals back then. she had no outstanding charity or chagend things as royals should to be from which i remember reading about her time. she in fact was ambitious, manipulative and cunning behind the scenes in this way she was a force ...but as a public royal? disagree

well known George VI was never a confident man (in fact he was quite weak) and qm wore pants in that marriage


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 05:48:34 pm
There is plenty of evidence to dispute that claim What I posted earlier is just one example.

She had negative traits of course. A radio broadcast and quotable statements are nothing to sneeze at. She and George were great partners and being War time royals is not an enviable position.

If Kate wants to emulate her she is going about it in the wrong way.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 04, 2019, 05:50:32 pm
he was a very obedient husband... it's never been moot

qm was one anti-education, frumpy and dull woman who disliked to be contraried


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 05:51:31 pm
He was secure enough not to get jealous of his own wife. I think his character has been underestimated.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 04, 2019, 05:55:13 pm
this isnt about confidence, in his case he disliked public attention like william... charles is like philip disliked the woman being important one

qm during the war time she hardly was some sort of churchill... she did what looked well to her and BRF thats that

sort of royal she was back then will be badly criticized now... sweet, dull, frumpy and uneducated... they still needs to be without opinions...

she was smarter than kate (& meghan)... was lucky enough to marry a weak prince... william's far more stubborn


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 06:01:49 pm
^^^^^  :thankyou:
Indeed.

I always wondered how true it really was that Hitler supposedly called her "the most dangerous woman". Frankly I doubt that. Because I also wonder how much of it was the British PR war machine at work, to raise people's spirits and give them hope. How much of that was Liz, how much PR and how much planted or entirely made up?

And then the "influence" of Liz qm always cirlces back to WWII.

I stand by all I said and have not changed my opinion one bit.

Also of course royals sought out aristo girls, because they came from the "right pedigree/ breeding", can't take filthy working/ middle class girls from families that have achieved nothing (in their eyes).

And royals and aristos never minded marrying these filthy unworthy girls when they ran out of money and needed more wealth to sustain themselves (eg Consuelo Vanderbilt and the Spencer-Churhchills, as just one example).

I think every parents wants their kid to marry well. The Midds have the last laugh.

^ Exactly.

And yeah I forgot they technically can't even have an opinion....


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 04, 2019, 06:08:21 pm
Allegedly, Bertie had a trigger temper and he and Liz would get into it.   

And let's not forget that the QM loved her drinkie-poos.  A heavy drinker, in fact.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Snowpea on April 04, 2019, 06:09:11 pm
Kate's chatty comments are nothing compared to the Queen Mum's very quotable comments during a time of War.

They are different. At the same time, they supported their daughter as she waited for the ring and through various cooling off periods and breakups. They were working class who wanted to social climb. And still do, Ma Midds appears to wants James to marry well.

Aristos from prominent families are sought after by royals. The daughters don't need to go to the same school to find the royal, the royals find them. William allegedly was interested in women from aristo families and during the breakup with Kate in 2007 was pursuing Isabella Calthorpe who did not reciprocate his interest.

I think Charles was and is the one with poor self esteem. George VI was confident in himself not to be petty and jealous like his grandson.

Hitler called the Queen Mum (then Queen Elizabeth) as the most dangerous woman in Europe. Kate could hardly rise to that level.

http://elinorflorence.com/blog/117662

I don't get where the image of her came as not seen and heard. The woman was most definitely heard. She was a very strong speaker and she indeed spoke.

Kate will never come even close to the Queen Mum in influence.



But could probably drink Cookie under the table.

Ma Council has got to be one of the most ridiculous idea of a mother anywhere. No good mother uses her child as a stepping stone. True middle-class people don't have the time to use their worthless, uninspiring and talentless offspring like CC obviously did.

Good points, all - this is a hoot.  :flower:

Not to take this more off topic, but was it really Cookie that Hitler was referring to? There was another QE who actually was of German heritage, QE of the Belgians. She actually was on the Continent through both world wars.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 06:18:12 pm
^^ And she left a huge amount of debt behind, the old drunken spendthrift.

^ Not sure Waity could drink Cookie under the table, I think it would be quite a close match!! 8)


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 04, 2019, 06:25:35 pm
^ Ah, yes, I was about to bring up the Queen Mum's enormous overdrafts!   lol   The QM was raised to iconic level because of the Abdication and WWII.  Otherwise, she liked to sit with her gin, her dogs and blow through her budget knowing that her daughter, the queen, would pay her debts.  She just was a home loving, family loving, country woman. 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 04, 2019, 06:32:19 pm
^ Exactly, and like with Liz, it is her amazing age that cemented her as what she was seen as then and now. (and never forget: clever PR).

I mean, why do so many people feel like or think they respect Liz?
It is because she too is seen but not heard (you can basically project anything on her), appears like a sweet ole granny, and is as old as this earth.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 04, 2019, 06:50:04 pm
Ma Midds is hard at work getting James moving up in the world.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 04, 2019, 06:51:37 pm
^ Exactly, and like with Liz, it is her amazing age that cemented her as what she was seen as then and now. (and never forget: clever PR).

I mean, why do so many people feel like or think they respect Liz?
It is because she too is seen but not heard (you can basically project anything on her), appears like a sweet ole granny, and is as old as this earth.
and as her mummy and granny she's as hard as nails


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 04, 2019, 08:05:45 pm
^^ So? Isn't it normal for a good parent to want their children to succeed in the world?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 05, 2019, 05:25:36 pm
Succeed by marrying up?. I would think children should be taught to develop their own gifts and skills to do well in the world not necessarily have to "marry up." I think it the exception for parents to push children to find rich spouses. People have been known to become successes without marrying up.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on April 05, 2019, 05:40:03 pm
^^ So? Isn't it normal for a good parent to want their children to succeed in the world?

Success is subjective, but I think you'll struggle to find people who would class Kate's trajectory as successful in any area but social climbing.

She has never held down a proper job. She spent years as Will's doormat, including when he cheated on her. She has run her life through him - even her decision to study at St Andrews was influenced by her/Ma Midd's desire to snag a prince. She followed him around on charity projects abroad. She made nothing of herself, and since the wedding she has worked very little. Everything she has had in life was bought for her by someone else. She's not a role model for women and girls.

If Ma Midd had wanted Kate to succeed  in any respectable way, she would have pushed her to get a job instead of engineering her future so that she came into contact with William as much as possible.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 05, 2019, 06:23:50 pm
^ and ^^   Welll . . . Lord Mountbatten moved heaven and earth to make sure that Philip became Elizabeth's husband.  He seemed to think that was a step up in life for his nephew.  Also, he was in the process of moving heaven and earth to marry off his granddaughter to Charles, but he died and that was not accomplished. 

Do you think the queen was a doormat when Philip cheated on her?

I think Sophie Rhys-Jones felt like she won the lottery when she managed to wrestle her Is-He-Gay-Or-Not prince down the aisle.  Having a job was not enough for ol' Soph.  Nope. She wanted to marry up.  Then she willingly gave up her job and company.
 
If Sophie thought that being a countess was better than having a career, then how much more would Carole Middleton think being a queen consort an aspiration? 


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Snowpea on April 05, 2019, 06:35:13 pm
^^ So? Isn't it normal for a good parent to want their children to succeed in the world?

To use and misuse other human beings? To succeed on hard work and merit? No and then yes.

These are AWFUL excuses for parents. Pathetically bad and awful.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: HRHOlya on April 05, 2019, 07:46:29 pm
^^ Excellent points, I can't believe I forgot about Mountbatten!


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 05, 2019, 08:16:23 pm
^^ So? Isn't it normal for a good parent to want their children to succeed in the world?

Success is subjective, but I think you'll struggle to find people who would class Kate's trajectory as successful in any area but social climbing.

She has never held down a proper job. She spent years as Will's doormat, including when he cheated on her. She has run her life through him - even her decision to study at St Andrews was influenced by her/Ma Midd's desire to snag a prince. She followed him around on charity projects abroad. She made nothing of herself, and since the wedding she has worked very little. Everything she has had in life was bought for her by someone else. She's not a role model for women and girls.

If Ma Midd had wanted Kate to succeed  in any respectable way, she would have pushed her to get a job instead of engineering her future so that she came into contact with William as much as possible.

True, but the thing is, even if the monarchy got magically abolished tomorrow, her name will be on history books, and considering Wallis Simpson who also got married to another royal and has been dead for decades are still talked about in documentaries, articles, and forums online, I imagine so will Kate, and to a lot of people that is considered a success.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on April 05, 2019, 08:25:42 pm
You'd be a pretty dreadful parent if you only wanted your daughter to grow up to be famous for marrying someone.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 05, 2019, 08:38:51 pm
^ I agree, and I dislike those kind of people.

Unfortunately, there are quite a lot of them in recorded history, the Woodvilles, the Borgias, and the Medici family to name a few.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 05, 2019, 08:46:03 pm
^^ There is a difference, though, between marrying to be famous and marrying to become the next Queen Consort of Great Britain.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: buflesse on April 05, 2019, 09:18:25 pm
There would be if Kate actually took her role seriously.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Val on April 06, 2019, 12:14:17 am
^

Exactly.  As the whole world knows, Ma just machinated for the title, the money and sycophancy.
They were never church goers either, hence Kate’s rushed confirmation a few days before the wedding.  Giving back and duty never came in to ma’s ‘business plan’ to push her totally unsuitable and inept daughter in to William’s path, then play happy families to reel him in.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 06, 2019, 12:19:42 am
^ and ^^   Welll . . . Lord Mountbatten moved heaven and earth to make sure that Philip became Elizabeth's husband.  He seemed to think that was a step up in life for his nephew.  Also, he was in the process of moving heaven and earth to marry off his granddaughter to Charles, but he died and that was not accomplished. 

Do you think the queen was a doormat when Philip cheated on her?

I think Sophie Rhys-Jones felt like she won the lottery when she managed to wrestle her Is-He-Gay-Or-Not prince down the aisle.  Having a job was not enough for ol' Soph.  Nope. She wanted to marry up.  Then she willingly gave up her job and company.
 
If Sophie thought that being a countess was better than having a career, then how much more would Carole Middleton think being a queen consort an aspiration? 


The thing is that when 14 year old Princess Elizabeth saw Philip she was smitten and would not consider another man.  The queen though always had the upper hand, she was in charge and could not be ousted.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 06, 2019, 02:22:10 pm
^ She might be in charge, but she still kowtowed to Phillip and QM.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: india on April 08, 2019, 06:06:05 pm
All of the rags in the States are proclaiming that The Potato Head is pregnant as a result of the alleged affair between Prince Petulant and the oh so superior in every way Rose. Is there any truth to this?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 08, 2019, 06:16:34 pm
I think at some point, Rose might have to file a suit against the press; until there's evidence, I'm leery about coming to too many judgements. I just hope someone isn't getting mud thrown at her just because of some silly tiff or argument. Kate has let people slander Downe House (alleged bullying by aristocratic kids) and other women have gotten smeared just by being in the wrong place and wrong time. There have been a lot of cases of women getting slandered just by looking at her the wrong way.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 08, 2019, 08:06:07 pm
^ She might be in charge, but she still kowtowed to Phillip and QM.

I meant he could never dump her because he was the consort not the monarch


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: RandyDrx on April 09, 2019, 06:36:23 am
He definitely could, it might create a huge scandal but technically, he could.

Monarchs aren't immune to break-ups and divorces after all, just look at King Mohammed VI and Lalla Salma of Morocco.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 09, 2019, 02:49:58 pm
However, she would not lose her title and continue to be Queen Regnant. and he would be ousted, perhaps in a divorce settlement losing a title theoretically. The public would not accept him as King if he divorced her.

She would not be able to be ditched by the royals as Monarch and is far far less vulnerable than a married in consort.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: dianab on April 10, 2019, 02:07:55 am
All of the rags in the States are proclaiming that The Potato Head is pregnant as a result of the alleged affair between Prince Petulant and the oh so superior in every way Rose. Is there any truth to this?
now i doubt that... when louis is around 2, i think very likely

I think at some point, Rose might have to file a suit against the press; until there's evidence, I'm leery about coming to too many judgements. I just hope someone isn't getting mud thrown at her just because of some silly tiff or argument. Kate has let people slander Downe House (alleged bullying by aristocratic kids) and other women have gotten smeared just by being in the wrong place and wrong time. There have been a lot of cases of women getting slandered just by looking at her the wrong way.
as far i dont believe rose wants to be part of windsor saga... not believing in this affair


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 12, 2019, 01:01:58 am
Us Weekly: Duchess Kate is ‘ready’ to be the Queen Consort right now
https://www.celebitchy.com/616858/us_weekly_duchess_kate_is_ready_to_be_the_queen_consort_right_now/


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 12, 2019, 03:07:16 am
PR machine in overdrive. Charles must be livid after all of HIS PR


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Rosella on April 12, 2019, 03:13:33 am
That cover picture, (photoshopped to death, btw) and the article inside reminds me a lot of New Idea and its constant repetition of 'Queen Mary of Denmark about to be crowned immediately' articles!


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: sandy on April 12, 2019, 03:47:31 am
The QUeen already had taken her on another appearance a few years ago. This also is nothing new.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: windsor2 on April 16, 2019, 03:54:53 pm
Kate's faithful aide Natasha Archer has NOT been ousted by a glamorous former Vogue editor - and is still co-ordinating the Duchess' wardrobe on her maternity leave, Tatler claims
* Kate, 37, has been showcasing a new wardrobe recently, leading to speculation
* Loyal aide Natasha Archer has been her stylist/personal assistant since 2014
* She went on maternity leave to have her son Theo with husband Chris Jackson
* Many believed former Vogue stylist Ginnie Chadwyck-Healey had taken over role
And the reality behind Kate's edgier style is more to do with the Duchess, rather than the switch up of staff.
Kate's confidence has grown thanks to Natasha's continued support, and this is reflected in her more bold and daring designer outfits, the publication claims.

It's believed that Natasha had carefully planned the royal's wardrobe prior to taking maternity leave to have her son Theo with her Royal Photographer husband Chris Jackson, late last year.

But with the eyes of the nation transfixed on the royal's style, dressing Kate is no mean feat - so she still seeks advice from various brands and stylists including Ginnie Chadwyck-Healey.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6927683/Kates-faithful-aide-Natasha-Archer-NOT-ousted-shiny-ex-Vogue-stylist.html#comments-6927683


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 16, 2019, 04:06:43 pm
How much more maternity leave does Kate need?


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 16, 2019, 04:37:23 pm
^ She's not on maternity leave.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 16, 2019, 10:35:32 pm
Ooops, my bad.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Miss Hathaway on April 16, 2019, 11:38:48 pm
 :hi:


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 17, 2019, 12:12:57 am
Thanks MH; it's just so pointless that she does nothing with herself.


Title: Re: Kate: Press Articles & Random I Chat 2019
Post by: logically on April 22, 2019, 07:29:04 pm
Didn't know where to put this but...
Regarding this gossip about Willie cheating and yet WK looking relaxed.  I think her demeanor is due to putting the kabosh on someone or something that was developing so she feels in control of him again.  Also, no matter what she does the papers look at it as better than MM.  So she does whatever she wants and spends whatever she wants behind closed doors.  The cat who has fresh cream.  She expects cheating and will put up with it so long as she has her lifestyle on her terms.