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Title: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on May 21, 2018, 07:30:01 pm
Please discuss anything to do with Meghan's family, such as it is.  Includes Doria's side.  Thank you!  YM


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on May 21, 2018, 07:31:46 pm
Meghan’s pot farmer nephew, 25, hands police a PEPPER SPRAY after being caught with a KNIFE outside a London nightclub following whirlwind tour of the capital’s tourist attractions

    Meghan Markle's family travelled to London ahead of wedding to Prince Harry
    They uploaded photos to social media including cardboard cutouts of the royals
    Megan's nephew Tyler Dooley, 25, busted with a knife at a nightclub on Sunday
    Bouncers confiscated the blade and Dooley fled before cops arrived at the club


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on May 21, 2018, 07:35:12 pm
Thank you for the thread, I was just thinking they need their own as much as the Midds need theirs.. Otherwise the family discussion disrupts the discussion on the Sussexes too much and we know none of them will go away any time soon :sigh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on May 21, 2018, 09:28:49 pm
Gee, somehow we will KNOW if Samantha ends up joining this forum.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on May 21, 2018, 09:31:43 pm
^OMG-can you imagine????


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: SouthernBelle on May 21, 2018, 11:44:49 pm
Meghan’s pot farmer nephew, 25, hands police a PEPPER SPRAY after being caught with a KNIFE outside a London nightclub following whirlwind tour of the capital’s tourist attractions

    Meghan Markle's family travelled to London ahead of wedding to Prince Harry
    They uploaded photos to social media including cardboard cutouts of the royals
    Megan's nephew Tyler Dooley, 25, busted with a knife at a nightclub on Sunday
    Bouncers confiscated the blade and Dooley fled before cops arrived at the club

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html)



SUCH A CLASSY BUNCH! 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on May 22, 2018, 12:08:29 am
'I'll wait to hear from her!': Meghan Markle's sister calls on her to 'do the morally and religiously right thing' and reunite their family following the wedding
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5755363/Meghans-sister-calls-morally-religiously-right-thing-reunite-family.html#ixzz5GBFE7WWc
On an on this will go until the head of the snake, Meghan remains in the royal.  bignono


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on May 22, 2018, 12:24:34 am
^Wow. This is rich Sam of all people dictating what is moral. I can't believe she even says this stuff with a straight face. LOL!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on May 22, 2018, 12:40:08 am
Well we all know she has a trashy family except for her mother. Eventually their Antics will die down because I think people will ignore them at some point.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 01:03:42 am
If the DM stops paying attention to Sam, maybe she'll go away


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 22, 2018, 01:43:44 am
Meghan Markle's father is seen for first time since missing his daughter's marriage to Prince Harry to undergo heart surgery as family members urge her to fly him to UK to visit Buckingham Palace

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5755573/Meghan-Markles-father-seen-Mexico-time-daughters-wedding.html#ixzz5GBeB7tXf
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Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on May 22, 2018, 02:29:18 am
Meghan’s pot farmer nephew, 25, hands police a PEPPER SPRAY after being caught with a KNIFE outside a London nightclub following whirlwind tour of the capital’s tourist attractions

    Meghan Markle's family travelled to London ahead of wedding to Prince Harry
    They uploaded photos to social media including cardboard cutouts of the royals
    Megan's nephew Tyler Dooley, 25, busted with a knife at a nightclub on Sunday
    Bouncers confiscated the blade and Dooley fled before cops arrived at the club


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5751887/Meghan-Markles-nephew-gets-caught-knife-London-club.html)


And so it begins...or continues.  lol

Now, HOW was he even let through customs?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on May 22, 2018, 09:37:14 am
^^^^^

There are many reports around about Doria too, ie that she has a criminal record, is bankrupt and that her parents were half siblings ie same mother, different fathers.   Her proposed interview with Oprah won't go down well with the RF either.  Many comments everywhere on how smiley QE was at the Chelsea Flower Show yesterday but how grumpy and sour looking she was at the wedding which many are saying was more like the Nottinghill Carnival.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on May 22, 2018, 11:18:11 am
^  The difference in the queen's demeanor from Saturday to yesterday is stunning.  She was at her best at the flower show yesterday, looking quite relaxed and happy.   To me, it speaks volumes about what she was thinking and feeling on Saturday.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on May 22, 2018, 01:57:38 pm
^I thought the same thing too. I n most circumstances, a wedding is a joyous event. But the look on QEII's face the entire time did not reflect joy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 02:14:28 pm
^^^^^

There are many reports around about Doria too, ie that she has a criminal record, is bankrupt and that her parents were half siblings ie same mother, different fathers.   Her proposed interview with Oprah won't go down well with the RF either.  Many comments everywhere on how smiley QE was at the Chelsea Flower Show yesterday but how grumpy and sour looking she was at the wedding which many are saying was more like the Nottinghill Carnival.

Oprah denied that she would have an interview with Doria.

I don't think Doria has a criminal record.  It would have been out by now.

If the Queen did not want the marriage she would have told Harry to drop Meghan ages ago. The Queen does not smile at weddings. I don't recall her smiling at Will and Kate's wedding either. She could have been concerned about her husband being out and about again. She probably has a lot of worries related to her husband's health.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on May 22, 2018, 02:36:13 pm
^Wow. Just making my own observations.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 02:46:30 pm
Just expressing the impressions I have. I wonder how nervous the Queen was about her husband attending the wedding after his surgery.He probably does not like to be cooped up. But that's for another thread.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on May 22, 2018, 03:06:10 pm
 putting on a wedding is always nerve-wracking.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on May 22, 2018, 03:48:32 pm
Liz absolutely does smile at weddings, or at least she used to. She had big smiles at Chuck & Di's wedding and even smiled quite broadly when Diana subtly reached out for C's hand during the ceremony. Also at other non-family weddings, but she doesn't really attend weddings anymore (except for her most direct family), so we can't say how she'd act at the next wedding she might attend, that isn't the family. A good comparison will be though Eug's wedding, her granddaughter from her fave son, that might give us some insight. If she's smilier and happier there, then you know what's up!

It depends on how well the palace wants to protect people how much gets in the public domain. Will was way worse than Harry back in the day and there are quite some rumours around, but the palace squashed that swiftly. It is to a degree harder now than when Bill was younger, as the internet with its global reach and social media is harder to control. But in any case, if the palace wants sth swept under the rug, even before plebeians have a chance to catch a whiff, it will be swept under the rug.

Derailing way too much as this is the Markle family thread, but yeah that's the gist, even concerning the Markles (to a degree, they're in the US and harder to control there for the Winds, cause the interviews with the Markle fam members for which they flew in and that were scrapped last minute, you can bet your hat the palace put an end to that, would've been harder to do had they done the same for US TV, with US TV and esp in the US, but stupidly - for them -  they came to the UK for UK TV; also emphasizes the reality that free journalism does not exist and freedom of speech also not or being unbiased, b/c then the Winds wouldn't supress negative stories and end things like these or the sudden positive countless articles on Murkles the day before the wedding).


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 22, 2018, 04:35:33 pm
Oprah can deny anything really, she is known to have told lies over the years, which makes me tend not to believe a lot of what she says  At this point in time we have no idea if telling the truth or she makes a denial as a smoke screen so that the interview is a bombshell when it is released.  Saying Doria has has a criminal record would be wrong if she doesn´t have one, but we have no proof whether she does or she doesn´t.   It may be something some media outlet kept for release post the wedding, maybe for payback for something murky did/said.   HM has never looked, IMO, as miserable and unhappy as she did on Saturday.  What if she tried to stop dork haza from marrying her and he said he was doing it anyway, and would go his own way.  They may well have argued about it for many months. Personally, I think she looked unhappy with a smattering of anger showing through.  Never seen her look like that before, normally puts on a good face.  None of us know what, if anything, is the truth, we do not live or mix with these people, it is all gossip/rumour and speculation, no concrete proof of anything, unfortunately sometimes.

Found some nice photos here of HM at bill medd and council cath wedding, she appears to be smiling in most of them, and a couple where she is smiling at the wedding of Andrew and Fergie, some lovely photos.  Nice one of her and PP at bill medd nuptials.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/be/f5/95bef542fa7e4e53289faf2727e40d25.jpg

Shortened the url, if it does not work can put the longer one in.

goo.gl/778x5p







Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on May 22, 2018, 05:03:06 pm
^ Yes GB she smiled at W and K's wedding. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldhYnMFHKak

3.20 onward when K curtsy's to her and then as she walks past HM says something to K.

HM looked totally different at the Markle wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on May 22, 2018, 05:12:21 pm
^ & ^^ Thanks for the throw back pic and video! It was nice to look back on those. HM sure looked much happier to me.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on May 22, 2018, 05:29:13 pm
Reminder to stay on topic.  There's plenty of fertile ground with these yahoos.  Thanks, YM

Do we have a public denial of the Doria interview from Oprah directly, in writing?  I've missed it. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 05:53:27 pm
about two weeks ago there were some denials reported in the media.

But my main reason for thinking it is not true is that people would say Doria who? Oprah would go for the gold, an interview with Meghan herself. At this stage, I doubt Meghan would be allowed by the RF to give these sorts of interview.

And her mother seemed so thrilled with Meghan marrying Harry, I doubt she'd give an interview and talk about racism and so forth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on May 22, 2018, 05:59:48 pm
^Not a public dismissal, then.  Not what I hear and is written everywhere.  Doria and Oprah wanted to discuss how racism affected their whole family in the run up.  I see no other reason for Oprah's presence.  And the bit published about they're in the same church is false as all get out. 

Nor the Clooney's for that matter.  Why were they there in the media?  Makes for really awkward press.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on May 22, 2018, 06:00:18 pm
Many commenting in the DM about their heartlessness at not visiting her father.  
They have just indulged themselves in one party after another.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on May 22, 2018, 06:29:59 pm
^^ Exactly.

^^^ Oprah can't go for Meg herself, she's not allowed such interviews (anymore). The next best thing is Doria. At a (heavy) push even Jessica Mulroney. And that's it. That's as close as networks can get to the Sussexes.

^ I'll never understand why H&M never vistited him. It makes no sense. Meggles made several trips since Nov to the US, she visitied her mother, she was with H for Easter in LA, why didn't they go and see her dad or have her dad drive up for a bit? It's clear as day that Meggles has shunned and cut off her father in all but name.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 06:32:59 pm
^Not a public dismissal, then.  Not what I hear and is written everywhere.  Doria and Oprah wanted to discuss how racism affected their whole family in the run up.  I see no other reason for Oprah's presence.  And the bit published about they're in the same church is false as all get out.  

Nor the Clooney's for that matter.  Why were they there in the media?  Makes for really awkward press.

Clooneys seem to be everywhere these days. Professional guests so to speak.

Oprah's being there does not mean there will be an interview with Doria about racism. I don't think Doria would want to stir things up after seeing her daughter married off to Harry. No point to it at all.  IMO.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5752413/Doria-Ragland-NOT-filming-interview-Oprah-Winfrey.html



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 22, 2018, 07:02:53 pm
Meghan Markle's half-sister 'insulted' by decision not to give father a coat of arms
Meghan Markle's half sister has said it is a "huge insult" that her father was not given a coat of arms in the same way the Middleton family was.

Michael Middleton was given his own coat of arms after his daughter married Prince William and became the Duchess of Cambridge.

Samantha Markle told The Sun: “To exclude him off a coat of arms is really stripping him of an honour and it’s a huge insult.
After a heart attack that would be cruel and isolating.”

She also said the Royal family had no right to feel superior to the Markle family.

"The royals had generations of scandal in their own family.

“You’ve got inbreeding, you’ve got substance abuse, you’ve got alcohol abuse, you’ve got infidelity.

“On what grounds could the royals feel that the Markles are somehow not worthy?

“That’s the pot calling the kettle black.” 

Meghan Markle’s father has been seen for the first time since his daughter’s wedding, returning home to Mexico to recuperate from heart surgery
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22/meghan-markles-half-sister-insulted-decision-not-give-father/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on May 22, 2018, 07:07:52 pm
^ He doesn't deserve one, none of them do including Murky.  These grifters are getting too full of themselves just like the Meddletons. Disgusting.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2018, 07:33:42 pm
Meghan Markle's half-sister 'insulted' by decision not to give father a coat of arms
Meghan Markle's half sister has said it is a "huge insult" that her father was not given a coat of arms in the same way the Middleton family was.

Michael Middleton was given his own coat of arms after his daughter married Prince William and became the Duchess of Cambridge.

Samantha Markle told The Sun: “To exclude him off a coat of arms is really stripping him of an honour and it’s a huge insult.
After a heart attack that would be cruel and isolating.”

She also said the Royal family had no right to feel superior to the Markle family.

"The royals had generations of scandal in their own family.

“You’ve got inbreeding, you’ve got substance abuse, you’ve got alcohol abuse, you’ve got infidelity.

“On what grounds could the royals feel that the Markles are somehow not worthy?

“That’s the pot calling the kettle black.” 

Meghan Markle’s father has been seen for the first time since his daughter’s wedding, returning home to Mexico to recuperate from heart surgery
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22/meghan-markles-half-sister-insulted-decision-not-give-father/

A roundabout way of saying she is entitled to a coat of arms. IMO anyway


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on May 22, 2018, 08:05:53 pm
"She also said the Royal family had no right to feel superior to the Markle family.

"The royals had generations of scandal in their own family.

“You’ve got inbreeding, you’ve got substance abuse, you’ve got alcohol abuse, you’ve got infidelity.

“On what grounds could the royals feel that the Markles are somehow not worthy?

“That’s the pot calling the kettle black.”  "

Very very right and well said.
That's exactly why monarchies and systems like that have to go. They are dishonorable people who lord over others.
The difference is though that the Midds are UK citizens, and appear on the surface much more polished & wholesome as well as successful than Thomas and his offspring (with the Midds you have to dig deeper to see they are anything but, with the Markles you see instantly what you get, in a way they are a more honest package to purchase - no frills that disguise that the package is in fact 60% hot air!). The problem also with a Markle coat of arms is that if Thom were granted coat of arms, then Sam and his son could use them, and his son's offspring.

And with the blatant unpopularity of M (&H) and disenchantment with the Winds, the last thing they need is hand out arms and titles like confetti.
Same goes with the upcoming wedding of Eug & Jack, plus what Eug gets now as wedding gifts (i.e. Jack: arms, titles) will have to be given to Bea's husband eventually. Though they are Liz's faves and Jack has been "loyal and discreet" for many years & his family hasn't made any trouble, so Liz might want to gift them these things regardless of everything else. We'll see.

Sam has occasionally good points, no one can say otherwise. Even a faulty clock is right twice a day. ;)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on May 23, 2018, 03:55:39 am
Sour Sammy: Meghan Markle's half-sister says Doria Ragland looked like a 'hockey player in the penalty box' at the wedding and accuses her of cashing in with her Oprah interview
Quote
In an interview on Monday, Samantha fired off a false and offensive statement about mother-of-the-bride Doria Ragland, who remains the only member of the Duchess of Sussex's family to not try and cash in on her daughter's new title.
She then followed that up on Tuesday with an unnecessary remark about Ragland at the royal wedding.
When the hosts then pointed out she too cashed in, and question her 'fond memories' claim, Samantha replied: 'Here’s what’s fundamentally wrong if family and friends don’t make money, the journalist and tabloids are going to make money and they have less right.'
She began by denying a claim that she said Doria hogged the limelight before stating: 'She looked more like the hockey player in the penalty box.'
That remark was not nearly as offensive as the next however, when she responded to one tweet by saying of Doria: 'She was probably sitting there crying because she knew that she sold out in cashed in bigger than anyone, and that she isolated our dad. Guilty.'
Meghan poses with Samantha while her half-sister collects a university degree. Photo undated   +4
Meghan poses with Samantha while her half-sister collects a university degree. Photo undated
She kept going to, saying of Doria's look: 'The Givenchy was beautiful but I would have put her in a hockey uniform.'
She claimed the Windsors had no right to feel superior over the Markle family because they have had their own series of scandals. 
'Well the royals had generations of scandal in their own family,' said the woman who is hoping to reconnect with the newest member of the royal family.
'You've got inbreeding, you've got substance abuse, you've got alcohol abuse, you've got infidelity.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5760259/Meghan-Markles-sister-says-Doria-Ragland-looked-like-hockey-player-penalty-box.html#ixzz5GHztRFiI
Ouch.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 26, 2018, 07:34:08 pm
Sam really need shut it cause she flip flop too much

Back to reality! Meghan's mom Doria takes dogs for walk in L.A. one week after attending her daughter's royal wedding

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5774789/Back-reality-Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-takes-dog-walk-L-A.html#ixzz5GdNjImPn
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Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 27, 2018, 12:28:15 am
Sam is a mess.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 31, 2018, 11:28:25 am
DON'T DRIVE DAD Worried Meghan Markle orders dad to quit driving while he recovers from surgery that made him miss wedding


The royal bride has made a series of anxious phone calls to her dad checking on his progress as he recovers from the heart surgery which meant he missed the wedding.

The Sun can also reveal that Harry rang Thomas, 73, to ask for his daughter’s hand in marriage; how Thomas ate jelly and fruit salad alone while watching the ceremony on telly and that it was Meghan’s idea for Prince Charles to walk her down the aisle.

Mum-of-one Lori Davis, 38, who lives in the same gated community as Thomas, said: “He’s spoken to Prince Harry on many occasions and he has spoken to Harry and Meghan since the wedding.

“They’re worried about him and have told him not to drive as he recovers from his heart operation.”

She also said Thomas ate jelly alone while watching the ceremony at a £23-a-night Airbnb in Mexico.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6415820/meghan-markle-orders-dad-to-stop-driving/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on May 31, 2018, 02:33:17 pm
Some of this seems plausible but I don't think it was Meghan's idea to have Charles walk her down the aisle. I think it was Charles'. Just my thoughts on this.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on May 31, 2018, 05:52:46 pm
Megs situation with her dad is one of the reasons why I just cannot warm to her; I think she is cold and heartless in that regard.  :bat:

If she wanted her dad at her wedding, I don't understand why she couldn't fly him out to London to stay with her and Harry for at least a week before. I mean, sugars want to brag that Megs is rich, then why couldn't she put him in a hotel? And if she didn't want to put him in a hotel because she is cheap, then there has to be more than one bedroom at Nott Cottage for him to stay in, and if there isn't a guest bedroom, blow up an air mattress and have him sleep on it in the living room, kitchen, something! Make room!

But she didn't want him there, that's obvious and that's f'd up. It seems that she punished him for that fact that his eldest children were talking trash about her.

If her dad already had a heart procedure scheduled two or three days before the wedding then why not release a statement saying so and that he won't be able to attend.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on May 31, 2018, 06:12:26 pm
Thomas Markle dismisses claims he asked Meghan for money before the Royal Wedding
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He told TMZ reports that he contacted her on at least two occasions but she refused to help him out are wrong, dismissing them as 'just plain b*****t'.
Money has never been a topic of conversation between them but he said Meghan, 36, would help him out if he was in difficulty, he explained.
Since his heart surgery he has been resting and will be going to his two-week follow-up appointment next week, he told TMZ.
Markle Sr is still to meet his new son-in-law Prince Harry but is thought to have spoken to the him over the phone. 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5790653/Thomas-Markle-dismisses-claims-asked-Meghan-money-Royal-Wedding.html



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on May 31, 2018, 10:16:05 pm
The bottom line was that the RF didn't want him there anyway.  Chaz stepping in after all the uncertainty was a PR plan to make him more popular.  Most saw through it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on May 31, 2018, 10:31:53 pm
The bottom line was that the RF didn't want him there anyway. Chaz stepping in after all the uncertainty was a PR plan to make him more popular.  Most saw through it.

Why wouldn't the RF want Megs daddy there?  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on May 31, 2018, 11:02:03 pm
Some say that they weren’t sure how he would act but others saying it was all planned so that chaz could step in and improve his popularity.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on May 31, 2018, 11:55:48 pm
^^Probay Durant cut in wjtther new glamorous lifestyle.  :laundry:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on June 01, 2018, 12:10:45 am
^^ & ^ That's a darn shame  :angry:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 01, 2018, 01:20:43 am
If she was that dang concerned about her father, she would carry her narrow behind down there and see about him. No ifs, ands, nor buts about it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 01, 2018, 01:29:13 am
Duchess Meghan’s Mom Doria Ragland’s ‘Biggest Highlight’ From the Royal Wedding Revealed
There was one moment from the weekend of the royal wedding that Duchess Meghan’s mom, Doria Ragland, will cherish forever.

Duchess Meghan’s Family
“Doria is saying the biggest highlight of the wedding, of course after watching her daughter say ‘I do’ to the man she loves, was meeting the queen,” a source tells Us Weekly exclusively. “It would have been extremely intimidating for anyone, but Meghan and Harry really did a marvelous job of preparing her [with] what to expect.”

Prince Harry, in particular, told his new mother-in-law “numerous stories about the queen as a grandmother and what she [means] to him,” the source adds.

Duchess Meghan Through the Years
The yoga instructor, 61, met Queen Elizabeth II for tea with the prince, 33, and the Suits alum, 36, at Windsor Castle in England on May 18, one day before her daughter’s nuptials.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markles-moms-biggest-highlight-from-royal-wedding/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 01, 2018, 01:33:20 am
^I'm sure it was a highlight of the trip. A girl never forgets signing her first NDA.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 04, 2018, 07:16:05 pm
Meghan Markle's father looks happy and relaxed as he recovers from heart attack which kept him from his daughter's wedding to Prince Harry

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5803695/Thomas-Markle-Sr-gets-haircut-shave-Rosarito-barbershop.html#ixzz5HTvvpT4C
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Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 12, 2018, 05:20:39 pm
Why Oprah Winfrey Gave Meghan Markle’s Mom a Basket of Kumquats
Winfrey says the royal wedding was “transformative.”.


A few weeks before the royal wedding, in the real height of “Meghan mania,” when every paparazzi photo of anyone related to or connected with Meghan Markle in any way was analyzed for days on end, there was an entire news cycle based around a set of photos of Doria Ragland, Meghan’s mother, leaving Oprah Winfrey’s house. Reports at the time suggested Winfrey was trying to woo Ragland for an interview, noting that Ragland—a social worker in Los Angeles—had spent some six hours at Winfrey’s residence, and left with “gifts.” When the wedding itself came around, Winfrey was in attendance, which further fueled speculation about a potential Winfrey-Ragland sit-down (which has still yet to take place).

Well, on Monday night, Winfrey offered (some) clarification. While she did not exactly state whether or not she is in direct talks to interview either Ragland, or Prince Harry and Meghan, she stressed to Entertainment Tonight (on the red carpet of her new series, Love Is) that she was most certainly not trying to shower Ragland with presents, or bribe her in any way. They were just enjoying some kumquats—that’s all!!!!

Yes, Winfrey recounted: “The story was that Meghan’s mom had come to my house and she left laden with gifts. You know what the gifts were? First of all, she’s great at yoga, so I said, ‘Bring your yoga mat and your sneaks in case we just want to do yoga on the lawn.’ So one of the bags was a yoga mat and the other was lunch.” Winfrey explained that the pair ate a kumquat-based dessert, at which point Ragland noted her affection for the fruit: “She said, ‘I love kumquats,’ and I said, ‘I have a kumquat tree! You want some kumquats?’ So it was a basket of kumquats, people. For all of the people who said I am getting her gifts and I'm trying to bribe her for an interview—they were kumquats. If kumquats can get you an interview, I’m all for it!”

Winfrey said she would like to be Harry and Meghan’s first interview as a married couple, and said that the wedding itself felt “transformative.” She continued “It was more than a wedding, I thought. It was a cultural moment. And you could not be there or watching on television . . . and not feel that there was a shift that just happened in the middle of it.” She went on, “I think it’s bigger than them and I think it bodes well for hope for all of us.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/06/oprah-winfrey-doria-ragland-basket-of-kumquats-meghan-markle-royal-wedding?mbid=social_twitter


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 12, 2018, 06:29:01 pm
So, she just randomly called a woman she’d never met to come to her house, do yoga, and eat kumquats? Yeah ok, Oprah. *rolls eyes*


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 12, 2018, 06:53:44 pm
^ lol Seriously! It seems a pathetic way to explain Doria's time at Oprah's and squash the rumours about an interview, however not even Oprah would ultimately deny that an interview was in the making or that she tried to get Doria for an interview, she simply spun the story into some bs and said she'd like to be the 1st to have the interview with them as couple. Ding ding ding!! Just "friendliness" or because they go to the same church my a*se. This is quite an admission actually.

If H&M do an interview with Oprah, then that would be a very very bad move. But they invited a load of slebs, incl the Becks & Clooneys, so I have little hope. The interview with Doria seems to be shelved for now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 12, 2018, 07:16:13 pm
^I think Buck House & Clarence House nipped it in the bud. If they were to allow an interview, it would not be with an American outlet. For all intents and purposes Nutmeg is a Brit now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 12, 2018, 07:44:00 pm
^ I think Oprah was trying to get H&M intitially for an interview, which wasn't (still isn't) possible, so she went for the next best thing: Doria. Doria accepted early talks and prep (hence her visit to Oprah's). There was talk how BP would green light it after seeing it first. I think that was then nipped in the bid, but Oprah is obviously still hoping to get an interview with preferably H&M or Doria. Her not denying and saying she'd love H&M's 1st interview as couple speaks volumes. So for now she's diplomatic about it (in public).

I always have Oprah's early story in mind and her generosity towards her audience, but in truth she's had some failures since quitting her show and she's cutthroat. Better not get in her way.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on June 18, 2018, 08:11:38 am
I cannot believe the father is still talking... he should shut up. But KP are idiots should have protect him and if necessary cash.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 09:06:04 am
@piersmorgan
BREAKING NEWS: Thomas Markle, father of Meghan, reveals exclusively to @GMB that Prince Harry told him he is ‘open to the experiment of Brexit’ and thinks President Donald Trump should be ‘given a chance’. We’ll be speaking again to Thomas live in a few minutes.

really why is he still talking? Meghan just won't talk to him now


Thomas Markle reveals he cried as he watched Duchess of Sussex wed - and claims Prince Harry 'open to Brexit'

Thomas Markle has told how he cried as he watched his daughter’s wedding on television in a small rented hide-out, in a tell-all interview in which he claims Prince Harry was "open" to Brexit.

Mr Markle, who said he was “jealous” as the Prince of Wales walked his daughter down the aisle as he was receiving treatment for a heart attack, has spoken to Good Morning Britain in an extraordinary interview detailing private political conversations.

Claiming Prince Harry had once told him to “give Donald Trump a chance”, the 73-year-old alleged the sixth-in-line to the throne had seemed “open” to the idea of Brexit.

Mr Markle told how his daughter, then actress Meghan Markle, had confided in him that she had a new boyfriend, before eventually revealing he was British, then that he was a Prince they should call “H” for security reasons.

He spoke to the Prince straight afterwards, he said, getting to know him over the telephone before giving his blessing to their marriage following their engagement in November.

“Meghan told me first and then a few times after that Harry got on the phone with her and asked for her hand over the phone,” he said.

“I said you’re a gentleman, promise me you’ll never raise a hand against my daughter and of course I give you my permission.”

Saying his new son-in-law was “great” and an “interesting guy”, Mr Markle said he “made a great pick” in his daughter, who has been a “princess since the day she was born”.

Revealed that he watched the ceremony from a television in a room rented for him by friends in California, Mr Markle said he had been “jealous” that he was left as a “footnote in history”, but felt that “thank God” The Prince of Wales, whom he has never spoken to, was there to step in.

In an interview unlikely to have been sanctioned by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex or Kensington Palace, Mr Markle said he had come to know the “smart” Prince Harry over the phone in a series of “interesting conversations” in which they allegedly discussed his private political views.

“I was complaining I didn’t like Donald Trump,” said Mr Markle. “He said give Donald Trump a chance. I sort of disagreed with that but I still like Harry. That was his politics, I have my politics.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/18/thomas-markle-describes-moment-prince-harry-asked-permission/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 18, 2018, 09:18:10 am
^Oh, that Brexit comment is not going to go over well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 09:25:16 am
Taking those stage pap pics was mistake bad ideas and by the looks of it he still haven't learned cause doing this interview was a mistake also when they asked Thomas should haves no.

This give Meghan even more reasons to deny her dad and the markle side of the family


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sanka on June 18, 2018, 09:50:28 am
I would have thought after the paps error in judgment that he would be overly cautious about any interaction with the media.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 09:52:39 am
All you will hear in the US in response to any criticism of Tom Markle speaking is "so what?"  This is only another example of the cultural divide between the BRF and your average US citizen.  We have, barring threatening or endangering lives, unfettered free speech especially and including politics.  For Harry and KP not to know this is beyond foolish.

Sparkles dad, from our point of view, has not said anything outrageous or unkind or alarming at all.  It's every day conversation.  Almost every single person I know has spoken to the media at some point in their lives and understands that it may not be accurate or what have you but that freedom of the press is also a "holy" institution.  Plus, we have the right of rebuttal.

Why shouldn't her father say what he has said and to whom?  There's no law against it.  The BRF may be an endangered species but they're not some special, protected human beings who need to be kept in an invisible rarefied chamber that controls every living being on the planet to protect their image.  It's ludicrous to believe that anyone from the US would think that.  We have no allegiance to them and no law prevents anyone's from saying whatever they darn well please.

Plus, the BRF are not private citizens who would be able to use libel laws.  They are funded by the taxpayer which, in our culture, allows for complete editorializing and sharing of opinions in regard to any public official who receives even a penny of our tax dollars.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 10:07:31 am
@RoyalReporter
Kensington Palace is refusing to comment on Thomas Markle’s claims that Prince Harry told him to “give Trump a chance” and that the sixth in line to the throne was open to Brexit.


As they shouldn't .what Harry said or didn't say isn't really good or bad .its like those answers people give without really saying much or don't want to get too deep into it keeping it neutral .imo


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on June 18, 2018, 10:14:19 am
The ex worker for the Queen (I dont remember the name) said that it must have been approved by KP. Maybe true considering those comments. Helps stop the image both are against trump and brexit.. maybe they are using him now? Still I dont think it helps them or him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 10:32:13 am
^Could be.  But, I've yet to see any evidence of class or decorum in the Markle family, extended.  Just because you can say anything, and you really can in the US barring a few exceptions, doesn't mean you should. 

It needs to be remembered that MM's family have all worked in the entertainment industry where there's a closer level of relationships with the press and you become much more media savvy.  I'd venture to guess that Tom Markle doesn't think he's done anything wrong at all.  Or maybe he needed the money.  However you look at it, it's not cool but it's nothing extraordinary from our vantage point.

The concept of monarchy is so alien as well that there's no historical training nor built in respect for the institution above our own laws.  The Bill of Rights is our lead. 

This will always be the case with MM's presence.  Always.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 18, 2018, 10:33:45 am
He didn't say anything much. Maybe he blew the pap walk cash and now he needed some fresh money. Meghan is not going to help him out as she's too busy burning taxpayer money on her new clothes. (The more she burns the less she looks good in them  lol )

So, he goes and makes money on his own. Pretty much all Markles' job from now on will be to find new angles to comment on Meghan's life.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on June 18, 2018, 11:29:02 am
https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1008654022876848135?s=19

I dont see him invited to the christening lol


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 11:35:19 am
^^True.  He didn’t say anything much at all nor worth the reaction.  Imagine what he could say...

I just don’t get the surprise or pearl clutching over this.  He’s an American, can say what he likes and not being the most polished family in the world, what did they expect?  Maybe it would have been wise to get to know the family you’re marrying into, Harry?  Just a thought.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 18, 2018, 11:57:49 am
'Promise me you'll never raise your hand to my daughter': Thomas Markle reveals to Piers Morgan his warning to Prince Harry when he asked to marry Meghan - and says a child will be 'in the making soon'

    Thomas Markle has given first TV interview about Meghan, the turmoil before the wedding and Prince Harry
    Father-of-three underwent heart surgery just before daughter's big day in May and watched from US B&B
    He said: 'I cried. I'm a footnote in one of the greatest moments in history instead of a dad walking his daughter down the aisle'
    Mr Markle hasn't met Harry or seen Meghan since they married but says he hoped to come to London soon
    He said: 'I would certainly love to meet the Queen. She's one of the most incredible women in the world'
    Meghan's father has spoken to Harry on the phone but has never met him or spoken to any other British royals
    Private chats also reveal Harry told him he is 'open to Brexit' and said DonaldTrump should be 'given a chance'
    Piers Morgan Mr Markle agreed to GMB interview for a 'few thousand pounds' so he could 'set record straight'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855399/Thomas-Markle-expresses-regret-not-giving-Meghan-away-thanks-handsome-Prince-Charles.html

^ You're right, from a US perspective this is all fine, nothing he said is bad. But from a UK perspective.. boy oh boy.. the political comments were bad (the Trump one less so, that was kinda fine).
I think ^^^^^ Alex is right saying they might be using him for their image, their anti-Trump rhethoric and anti Brexit rhethoric was really really bad (both very current events and they can't go around proclaiming their dislike for a current head of state or any politician). But this isn't helping. In terms of politics, it's best to keep it zipped, end of.

This is really bad.

The tweet is right, I can't imagine it's "KP approved", it can be at best H and/ or M approved, but never by the establishment. The tweet, that claims not approved by KP and esp that this brings up questions on his relationship with M is very astute.

Imo this is even more proof that nothing's alright between M & Thomas and to me further proves tbh that she never intended him to be present at the wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 02:28:03 pm
https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/1008654022876848135?s=19

I dont see him invited to the christening lol



lol true what ever chance Meghan and  Thomas Sr had to forgive each other and move on is no longer in place he screwed that all up now ppl will just feel more sorry for her


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 18, 2018, 02:38:19 pm
I don't think that people will feel sorry for her, if anything it seems that the reaction is even more enforced that dumb Harry married too hastily into a hot mess of a family and a scheming, cold user.

In any case, the fact that Thomas still hasn't met Harry or seen his daughter (when was the last time he saw her?) speaks volumes, and nothing good. It's as laughable as the statement that she has "always cared for her father", that's what you say about someone you don't want anything to do with but can't or won't admit publicly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 18, 2018, 02:51:15 pm
Meghan Markle's father calls staged paparazzi photos a 'serious mistake' as he apologises and reveals his daughter and Prince Harry were 'very forgiving'
Mr Markle this morning opened up about conversations he had with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex about the media attention surrounding him.
He told GMB: 'Most part of it was, 'Don't speak to the press.' The rest of the things were just be careful.
'But they were very emphatic about not giving any information to the press or talking to them, because it just encourages them more. So none the less, that's what I tried to do.'
Despite these conversations however, allegations later surfaced that he had staged photographs with the paparazzi.  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855503/Meghan-Markles-father-calls-staged-paparazzi-photos-mistake.html

'I'm a footnote in one of the greatest moments in history': Thomas Markle's regret at not giving Meghan away and how she cried when he said he couldn't come
Thomas Markle Snr choked back tears as he reflected on the royal wedding and revealed how he had planned to attend the big day until he was forced to pull out at the eleventh hour.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855677/Thomas-Markles-regret-not-giving-Meghan-away.html

Thomas Markle risks diplomatic row over Prince Harry's political beliefs as he reveals his son-in-law told him to 'give Donald Trump a chance' and that Brexit is an 'experiment we have to try'
Kensington Palace this morning refused to comment on the claims, which come two years after the Queen was accused of backing Brexit in the EU referendum.
She was said to have told former Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg during a lunch at Windsor Castle that she thought Europe was going in the wrong direction ahead of the key vote.
Members of the Royal Family do not vote and are expected to remain politically neutral.
On his first phone call with Prince Harry, Mr Markle revealed: 'He said 'Hello Thomas', and I said, 'Hello Harry'.
'It became a conversation back and forth mostly about politics.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5855479/Thomas-Markle-says-Prince-Harry-told-Donald-Trump-chance.html
^true.
Just like the staged pap pictures, this is a staged interview because it seems odd that he claims the first conversation he had with Harry as abot politics ans tha he was all set to go to London to walk his just;er daugher down the aisle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 03:41:44 pm
Way up there, HRHolya.  Good point.  To we Americans, this is small potatoes but in another culture like the highly designed BRF, a fiasco in the making.

But, again, what did they think would happen with this bunch who are clearly not diplomatic and have no understanding of media control, allegiance to the Crown or not being able to say anything to anyone?  This, right here, is one of the many reasons Harry should’ve done his homework and thought it through more carefully. 

As this unfolds, any sympathy for Sparkles will be severely eclipsed by the pr damage to the BRF if more dirt is spilled, and it will be. 

The biggest problem?  It was handled as a rescue mission not a marriage.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 04:07:01 pm
It's 30min

Thomas Markle speaks for first time in tell-all interview

http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/thomas-markle-speaks-for-first-time-in-tell-all-interview


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 04:14:58 pm
^Anyone wanna take one for the team and watch this guy?  I can’t.  I just can’t.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 04:40:20 pm
 Meghan called and told him she has a new BF called him again he's birtish after the 3rd call she told him he's a prince told him it was harry .They call him H

Talked to harry on the phone still have not met him face to face. the first convo harry called him Thomas most of the conversation was about the politics and how they first met  how in love they are .Thomas would't give a date when the first call took place .

Meghan told Thomas first they was getting married.then a few times after that he spoke with Harry ,and thats when Harry asked Thomas for permission.
 
Talked about M&H helping him with fittings for suits.

Talked about M&H told him don't speak to the press becarful.

Yes he wanted to walk Meghan down  everything was set up for him to do that. he was happy PC walked her

Talked about the set up pics wanted to change his image cause the pics before made him look bad example like buying a toilet, buying beer ,taking out trash.
They bought up the whole Diana and the press thing and harry *despise* for them . Talk to Meghan and Harry after the stage pap pics came out he told the he was sorry they was forgiving about him doing the stage pap pics ,Meghan still wanted him to come to the wedding .

Harry told him he had one of his military friends to take care of him when he gets to London everything was set and book for him to come.

Talked about his heart problems he did have a heart attack spent a day in hospital he checked him self out (against doctors wishes) cause he still wanted to go to the wedding
He drove to L.A to takle his ex  Doria flowers drove back home .Got a call from one of Harrys people they told him they was picking him up that night, but he wasn't feeling well had to go back to hospital and the had to get surgery (Sharp Chula Vista Medical Center) a blockage in his aorta.

They wanted to fly over to see him ,but he told them no enjoy they wedding and honeymoon


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on June 18, 2018, 04:55:02 pm
^^I watched it. Couple take aways:

Piers was very pandering and had quite a different demeanor when compared to his interview with Samantha regarding TM's pre-wedding antics. Also, Piers refers to Suits as "a big show in America". not sure about the lol. Piers told TM he felt sorry for him as he was "a regular guy" dealing with the media.

Piers brought up Diana and Harry's hatred of the paparazzi when questioning TM about his decision to collaborate with the paparazzi. TM stuck to the same line about wanting to correct his image.

TM appeared to struggle a bit at several points and left me wondering if he was near tears-maybe it hit him that this interview was only going to cause him further problems?

TM referring to being a footnote in history creates questions about his true motive for wanting to be at the wedding.

TM has never met Prince Charles yet he said he could think of "no better replacement" for him to walk her down the aisle.

Also-TM very rarely makes any eye contact with the camera. Looks down a lot. Sometimes looks beyond the camera. Gave me weird vibes of him trying to remember his story. JMO.

"Meghan cried, I'm sure. Well she did cry." Weird-he wasn't sure at first and then he quickly changed it to yes she did.

GMB needs better ear pieces-TM kept pushing his further into his ear and was having trouble hearing. Samantha did this too so I suppose one could argue that it was a stalling tactic on the part of Samantha or TM.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 18, 2018, 05:07:51 pm
^ and ^^  :thankyou:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on June 18, 2018, 05:10:02 pm
^ :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on June 18, 2018, 05:11:43 pm
I was going to take one for the team but I couldn't make it past 7 minutes of that interview, I got bored.

This is my favorite quote by daddy Markle around the 6 minute mark:

“My daughter is very intelligent, she knows how to choose who she wants to be with, she’s a smart girl and she made a great pick.”

Nothing about Harry picking her or else she wouldn't be where she is.  :laugh:

Also, this quote:

“My daughter is capable of anything, and she will certainly be a compliment to the Royal Family.”

Interesting to say "capable of anything," like weaseling herself into the BRF, with ignorant Harry's help, of course.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 18, 2018, 05:59:38 pm
I’ve changed my mind about Meghan’s dad – he’s just a shy, decent man struggling to deal with the mayhem of his little princess marrying a prince’: PIERS MORGAN reveals the inside story of his incredible scoop
‘The unfortunate thing now is that I’m a footnote in one of the greatest moments in history - instead of a dad walking his daughter down the aisle.


Those were the poignant, regretful words of Meghan Markle’s father Thomas to me on Good Morning Britain this morning.

It would take a heart of stone to hear that admission and not feel sympathy for the world’s most famous absentee father-of-the-bride.

OK, perhaps he’s being a tad hyperbolic over the historical importance of his girl’s marriage to Prince Harry, who is now sixth in line to the throne and likely to drop even further down the ladder if his brother William keeps breeding at his current rate.

But it was a moment watched by over a billion people around the world, and it was a moment that should have featured Thomas centre stage, proudly at his daughter’s side as she married into the British Royal Family.

Instead, he was on his own in a B&B room 6,000 miles away, watching it all unfurl on TV as tears streamed down his face.

‘She was beautiful, I cried a little watching her,’ he said.

As he said this, his face crunched with emotion and my natural journalistic cynicism evaporated.

I was very critical of Thomas Markle in the week leading up to the wedding, believing his shocking decision to collude with a paparazzo photographer over staged photos came very close to wrecking the biggest day of his daughter’s life.

It was a particularly dumb thing to do after Kensington Palace specifically asked the media to leave him alone.

The understandable press frenzy that erupted after the bombshell revelation exacerbated Thomas’s existing heart problems, and meant he couldn’t fly to London.

‘By taking the paparazzi shilling, and now missing the wedding,’ I wrote at the time, ‘Thomas Markle broke his future son-in-law’s trust, and his little girl’s heart.’

I stand by that harsh judgement; it was indefensible behaviour.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5856697/PIERS-MORGAN-reveals-inside-story-scoop-Thomas-Markle.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 18, 2018, 06:13:04 pm
He allegedly received £50,000 for this interview. Earlier articles stated that he received a text from Meghan and hasn’t called since he had the heart issues. So now, he’s changing his tune saying that he’s had conversations with both Harry and her. At the end of the day, it’s what up with Meghan and how she’s where she is that the press is itching to reveal because that’s where their bread and butter lies. I can’t imagine that not happening soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 18, 2018, 07:30:29 pm
Thank you for the summaries! That comment on how "intelligent" M is and how she knows how to pick husbands plays exactly into her user/ climber image. Kinda confirms it.

Also how odd that M phones him to tell him she's getting married (again!), and after several phone calls with M only then does H call and "ask for permission". wtf?

By what you all write and your impressions, to me it looks like he's trying to back pedal and kinda rehab his image (due to the obvious pap walks) and alos his gaffes on blabbing about H&M's political leanings, of course making it all worse, it's best to keep your trap shut. Also again shows how odd the wedding day was. "Harry's people called to pick him up", calling bs on that because he had heart issues/ a heart attack and any *fool* knows he isn't allowed to fly under those circumstances, so this is either spin to make it look like he'd be included or H&M are callous.

And I'd say they are callous indeed, not having him visited ever since they are together and married now, his financial difficulties, his living conditions, not helping/ flouting medical advice on his heart condition.. just wow.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 18, 2018, 11:06:22 pm
The thing is unlike our US politicians running for office, royals are not obligated to disclose financial "gifts" to relatives. Sophie probably gives her father money but she is not required to disclose this. So there is no definitive way of knowing if Harry and/or Meghan sent money to her father as a gift. I would not rule out this happening.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 18, 2018, 11:15:46 pm
^ If that were the case he'd imo live in a better place and not make deals with paps and TV.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 18, 2018, 11:36:19 pm
Meghan Markle's father was paid £7,500 to tell all live on UK television just weeks after he made 'serious mistake' of posing for fake paparazzi photographs
Thomas Markle, 73, was flown by ITV's Good Morning Britain from his home in Mexico to a luxury hotel in California to discuss everything from making Harry promise never to 'raise his hand' to Meghan, to the prince's views on Brexit and Donald Trump.
The resulting furore – and his subsequent decision to pull out of giving his daughter away days before her wedding last month – prompted an unprecedented public statement by Meghan, 36.
In it she described the situation between herself and her father as 'deeply personal'.
Kensington Palace officials were deliberately kept in the dark about yesterday's TV interview so there was no opportunity to dissuade Mr Markle from taking part.
The fact that Mr Markle chose not to discuss the interview beforehand with his daughter is likely to be seen by many as suggesting their relationship is fractured in the extreme.
Royal sources have maintained, however, they have done everything they can to help and guide Mr Markle, and say he is a proud man who finds it difficult to accept assistance from his daughter.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5858345/Meghan-Markles-father-paid-7-500-reveal-details-relationship.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 19, 2018, 12:24:36 am
It's the Markle debacle, part two! For Royal courtiers to be wrong-footed once by the Duchess of Sussex's father may be unfortunate – but twice is careless
Yesterday's Order of the Garter ceremony went like clockwork – as usual.

Even the sun peeped out to bask Windsor Castle in a golden glow as the Queen led members of the Royal Family in velvet capes and plumed hats to celebrate the ancient order of chivalry.

Such spectacular events, of course, are meticulously planned, from the parade ground perfection of the marching Blues and Royals to the crisp salutes of the white-gloved police.

They also rely on one other key ingredient – the absence of any unexpected surprise that might derail the spectacular.

And yet for the second time in little more than a month, Buckingham Palace has been caught out by the domestic whirlwind that surrounds the family of the newest member of 'the firm', the Duchess of Sussex.

homas Markle's bombshell television interview, in which some of his daughter Meghan and Prince Harry's most intimate secrets were exposed, left courtiers reeling.

To be wrong-footed once as they were when the duchess's father announced he would not be giving Meghan away – so late in the day his presence could not be removed from the order of service – may be unfortunate.

To be surprised for a second time, however, might be regarded as careless.

If Mr Markle's remarks about his daughter and Harry trying for a baby – 'there's got to be a child in the making, somewhere soon' – were just cringe-making, his assertions about Harry's views on Donald Trump and Brexit were explosive.

Quite apart from stripping aside his daughter's dignity, he has also exposed his new son-in-law to critics who will complain that members of the Royal Family have no business declaring an interest in the hottest political issues of the day.

And ever since Trump became US President, and more particularly over controversial plans to invite him to Britain, the royals have been scrupulous to avoid revealing any views on the matter.

In his interview on ITV's Good Morning Britain, Mr Markle spoke of his telephone conversations with Harry.

In one, he said: 'I was complaining about not liking Donald Trump. He said 'give Donald Trump a chance'. I sort of disagreed with that.'

When asked about Harry's views on Brexit, Mr Markle, 73, told hosts Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid: 'It was just a loose conversation ... I think he [Harry] was open to the experiment.'

No wonder yesterday at the Palace there were shudders.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5858359/RICHARD-KAY-Markle-debacle-two.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 19, 2018, 04:01:04 am
https://78.media.tumblr.com/136b07f5286c899664e97ece317e5fa7/tumblr_inline_pajr08HfUI1uvtid8_250.png
What a mess.  :o 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 20, 2018, 01:30:42 am
I'm calling BS on them offering to come visit and his telling them to just enjoy the honeymoon and wedding. I don't think that conversation happened at all. I had a parent who was sick (before ultimately passing away) and there was several times when I flew in just to fly back out the next day. The important thing was seeing about my parent and there was no way I wasn't going to go there and check on things myself - even though my siblings were there.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 20, 2018, 08:07:34 am
Meghan Markle’s Dad ‘Banned From Royal Events For Life’ After TV Interview

Meghan Markle’s dad Thomas has been banned from royal events for life after he blindsided the family with his surprise TV interview, RadarOnline.com has learned.

The palace had no idea that Thomas was going to give the tell-all interview to Good Morning Britain, a source told Radar.

The royals were “shocked and blindsided” when Meghan’s reclusive dad, who lives Mexico, opened up to Piers Morgan about his chats with Prince Harry about politics, his staged photo scandal, his heart condition and his biggest regrets after missing his daughter’s wedding day!
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/06/meghan-markles-dad-banned-from-royal-events-for-life/

Like he was ever on the list to attended any royal events in the first place


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 20, 2018, 12:01:11 pm
^^ BS on that one indeed. M (or H) never offered, I think Thomas would be very happy if his daughter (and her new husband) came out to see him and no way would he say "no". That M hasn't seen her dad, esp considering his health issues, makes her for one awful human being and says all you need to know about her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 20, 2018, 12:31:54 pm
Thomas Kept Meghan in Dark About Interview
From ELLE
Thomas Markle surprised many people yesterday-and among those, officials at Kensington Palace-when he gave a nearly 30-minute tell-all interview to Good Morning Britain about everything: his learning about Meghan dating Harry, Harry's political views, and the couple's plans to have children soon. (He also seemingly confirmed Meghan is not pregnant yet to his knowledge, saying, "I don’t think there is a stork in the air yet, but I think it will happen sooner or later.")
Daily Mail reports that Thomas was paid £7,500 ($9,878.82) to do the interview. Thomas also didn't tell Meghan, Harry, or any Kensington Palace official about it, to the detriment of those relationships. Per Daily Mail reporter Rebecca English, "Kensington Palace officials were deliberately kept in the dark about yesterday's TV interview so there was no opportunity to dissuade Mr. Markle from taking part."
Royal sources told English that the Palace and couple have done everything they can to help and guide Thomas, but "he is a proud man who finds it difficult to accept assistance from his daughter."
Thomas himself said during the interview the two had advised him not to speak to the press. Obviously he didn't take that advice. As he put it: "For the most part, it was always ‘don’t speak to the press.’ The rest of the things were just be careful but they were very emphatic about not giving any information to the press or talking to them because it just encourages them more so nonetheless that’s what I tried to do."
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/thomas-kept-meghan-dark-interview-134200580.html




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 20, 2018, 02:20:28 pm
Meghan Markle’s Dad ‘Banned From Royal Events For Life’ After TV Interview

Meghan Markle’s dad Thomas has been banned from royal events for life after he blindsided the family with his surprise TV interview, RadarOnline.com has learned.

The palace had no idea that Thomas was going to give the tell-all interview to Good Morning Britain, a source told Radar.

The royals were “shocked and blindsided” when Meghan’s reclusive dad, who lives Mexico, opened up to Piers Morgan about his chats with Prince Harry about politics, his staged photo scandal, his heart condition and his biggest regrets after missing his daughter’s wedding day!
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/06/meghan-markles-dad-banned-from-royal-events-for-life/

Like he was ever on the list to attended any royal events in the first place

This sounds bogus to me. I think he'll be at the Christenings.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 20, 2018, 02:59:15 pm
I don't believe Thomas Mugshot will ever set foot outside of Mexico. He's there for a reason.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on June 20, 2018, 03:27:14 pm
^^What christenings?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 20, 2018, 03:30:29 pm
^ Meghan and Harrys kids

if they have kids the only person on Meghan side that will be there is Doria her mom


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on June 20, 2018, 03:32:39 pm
^We don't know if she's fertile yet. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 20, 2018, 06:23:35 pm
I am assuming she has been to doctors for check ups. I hope they have children, they  may have just two. they can play with their cousins.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on June 22, 2018, 04:41:28 pm
^ I wouldn't wish it on anyone that they couldn't have children, but I also don't think a couple of years waiting would hurt. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 22, 2018, 06:04:41 pm
I'm thinking that it is highly possible that Meghan is out of eggs due to her lifestyle: lover of spirits and yachting, and if there is pregnancy at best Harry can be a bio father and at worst he can learn from the papers that an art baby is produced in his name but not with his genes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 22, 2018, 06:16:20 pm
Off topic. Thanks, YM


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 22, 2018, 08:54:23 pm
 :sorry:

It is strange that Samantha hasn't made an appearance since the wedding. Could she be with a monthly payout already? We don't hear anything about the book either.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 23, 2018, 04:13:59 am
WISE UP, HARRY It’s not Meghan Markle’s dad Thomas who needs to get savvy about PR — it’s Prince Harry



I’VE read a lot of rubbish being thrown at Meghan Markle's dad as a result of his extraordinary interview with Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain this week.

So let’s clear something up once and for all.


Thomas Markle is a private citizen, a proud American.

If he wants to make a business transaction for £7,500 to give an interview, he damn well has every right to do exactly that.

We live in a capitalist society, after all, and the royals pick and choose when to do ­interviews themselves (some even flog their wedding to Hello! magazine) to get some positive PR.

Morally, Thomas, has done nothing wrong. Not even close.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/6603842/meghan-markle-thomas-markle-good-morning-britain-interview/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 23, 2018, 04:25:12 am
So much wrong with this story ^

Best part? "She begged Prince Harry to arrange a trip for her dad to come to see Buckingham Palace after he’d recovered from his heart attack."

Mmm hmm  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 23, 2018, 05:35:27 am
^Also that Sparkles "loves her father very much."  Baloney.  That's not in her wheelhouse.

Other than that and the begging Harry to let him see Buckimgham Palace, the gist is correct.  Thomas Markle has every right in the world to do this and Harry should've seen it coming and spent more time with her family to guide, get to know them and establish some kind of working relationship.  Did they really think they could just *poof* erase her entire family? 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 23, 2018, 02:03:38 pm
Meghan Markle’s family heartbreak: How relatives turned back on Duchess

Thomas Markle: Meghan cried when I couldn't attend wedding

But what is the reason for Meghan's ongoing family feud?

Meghan is known to have cut ties with many in her complicated family, having only invited her mother, Doria Ragland and her father, Thomas Markle to her Royal Wedding to Prince Harry at St George's chapel in Windsorlast month.

Ms Ragland stunned as she gracefully emerged in the grounds of Windsor Castle, with Prince Charles keeping her company.

But Meghan’s father Thomas was unable to attend after suffering a heart attack prior to the ceremony – following a dramatic few days in the media where he admitted he posed for paparazzi pictures and said he was too embarrassed to walk his daughter down the aisle.

Meghan's half-siblings, Samantha Markle, 52, and Thomas Markle Jr, 51, were not invited to the ceremony, but have not been shy to express their dislike for the Duchess.

Ms Markle launched a series of attacks against the Duchess ever since news of her Meghan's royal ties came to light.

Meghan and Prince Harry have officially been dating since 2016, and tied the knot on May 19 this year in a lavish ceremony viewed by millions all over the world.

On Monday, Ms Markle accused Meghan of ignoring their father on Father's Day, stating she was not concerned about his welfare.

Meghan Markle and her half sister and brotherGETTY

Meghan Markle's family heartbreak has been drawn out in public
Dear Prince Harry, It's not to late, Meghan Markle is obviously not the right woman for you
Mr Markle JR
She said: “Humanitarians do not ignore their fathers... Meg.

“Happy Fathers Day to all of the self-sacrificing fathers who gave us everything that we are.

Maybe a Father’s Day visit after the PR stunt said a visit would happen, would be appropriate. Ya think?

“If you’re so worried about Dad, demonstrate it.”

Mr Markle Jr, has also been outspoken about his dislike for Meghan - last month, writing an explosive open letter to Prince Harry, slamming the wedding as a "fake fairy tale".

The letter said: "Dear Prince Harry, It's not to late, Meghan Markle is obviously not the right woman for you.”

Meghan's half-sister is known to go back and forth on her opinion of the Duchess, showing her support but deviating quickly to speak of her despise towards the former actress.

The Duchess of Sussex has kept her siblings at arms length, making it clear she has little communication with her family.

Meghan's family have claimed the actress refused to help their father with money, as well as treating them like complete "strangers" ever since she became "famous", and that she was a "social-climber".

Ms Markle branded her half-sister as “narcissistic and selfish”, saying that she always wanted to be a princess.

Speaking to the Sun, she said: “Hollywood has changed her. I think her ambition is to become a princess. It was something she dreamed of as a girl when we watched the royals on TV."

Meghan is known to have cut ties with many in her complicated family.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/978308/meghan-markle-news-father-sister-family-royal-news


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on June 23, 2018, 04:46:43 pm
I find the manner in which she discards people extremely disturbing. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 23, 2018, 07:19:18 pm
^ So, the Markles didn't turn their back on her, it is she who didn't invite them. I'm still interested to see what happened to the missing family: the Ragrands.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 24, 2018, 12:44:31 am
Sold, the saddest wedding suit: PR heavyweight wears half-price £2,000 morning suit that was made for Thomas Markle to wear at Royal Wedding
It was a suit designed to be seen by the world – a smartly cut three-piece tailored by Chelsea’s finest craftsmen for Meghan Markle’s father to wear as he accompanied her down the aisle.
But now the suit has surfaced – and in a strange coincidence was worn by a man who sat just yards away from Prince Harry’s new wife at Ascot last week.
Johnno Spence, a PR guru to the horseracing world, picked up the ‘semi-bespoke’ morning suit for a bargain price when he visited Chelsea outfitters Oliver Brown.
Meghan had personally commissioned the company’s owner Kristian Robson to make several men’s summer outfits for her father, not just the suit for the wedding, suggesting that his visit to the UK had been intended to last several days.
Her shopping list included three shirts with size 18 collars and double cuffs, in blue, yellow and white; a navy blue weekend suit; a single-breasted waistcoat; and a set of tails – all in size XL.
Mr Spence’s public relations firm JSC Communications counts Derby sponsors Investec, Chelsea Thoroughbreds and jockey Ryan Moore as clients.
Oliver Brown, established 35 years ago, is the official tailor of Royal Ascot, where a top hat and tails are compulsory for Royal Enclosure guests.
The company declined to comment last night.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5878313/PR-heavyweight-shows-tailcoat-Mr-Markle.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 24, 2018, 04:09:47 pm
Thomas Markle fears he's being 'frozen out' by Kensington Palace since his bombshell GMB interview - and claims Meghan failed to send him a Father's Day card

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5879335/Thomas-Markle-fears-hes-frozen-Kensington-Palace.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on June 24, 2018, 04:12:15 pm
^Well isn't he astute? He assured that would happen with his paid pap strolls, his ongoing communications with TMZ and his interview with Piers. Is he honestly surprised?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 24, 2018, 05:20:17 pm
^^Any humanitarian would rise above it. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 24, 2018, 05:25:57 pm
I hope he never stops speaking to the press. This is fabulous cheap entertainment.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 24, 2018, 05:53:07 pm
Andrew Morton's book about Meghan did say that Thomas is expecting a financial settlement. It looks like he's playing the press game just like his vapid daughter is to make sure he gets somethng out of this. He's going to continue to talk to the media and be a pest to the extent that he thinks that the royal family would get fed up and pay him to keep quiet. IO, it looks like the family's being left to their own devices and Mehgan's going to have to sort this out on her own.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 24, 2018, 06:44:26 pm
Oh, well, Meghan and her family are Harry's problem now, so the longer daddy talks to the press the more we get entertained on brf's back.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on June 25, 2018, 06:53:28 am
Samantha and the half brother have gone quiet.  Have they been paid off or perhaps writing a book?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 25, 2018, 01:20:12 pm
KP isn't freezing Thomas out, Meghan is. It's a classic Murky move: drop people like hot potatoes, even your own parent.
Also a classic move to blame "the palace", staff, aides, handlers, RPOs and everyone else for the bs the Winds do. Everyone but themselves.

I don't entirely blame Meghan for cutting some family off, would love to cut off some of mine, but the diplomat uncle, to cut him off makes no sense whatsoever, and Thomas made clumsy pap walks, but I mostly feel sorry for him and don't see why Murky is cutting her father off. Even whispers of ridding herself off her mother..

That makes for a very very strange individual, who drops respectable family & their parents along with the black sheep, and "friends" when they aren't useful anymore.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on June 25, 2018, 03:04:44 pm
 She supposedly wanted him to walk her down the aisle, so he was important to her before the wedding.  Now she's not even speaking to him, which shows an unwillingness to build/rebuild/improve their relationship.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 25, 2018, 03:40:11 pm
^She'll try playing the 'victim' soon enough.  It will never be her fault.  Watch her blame Harry/PC/HM etc. for forbidding her to contact her father.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 25, 2018, 03:56:40 pm
The trouble with this whole family is that they appear to do an awful lot of lying  -  personally I would not believe a word they said.  Equally, the same can be said about the rf, you never get the truth from that family either. Why tell the truth when a lie will do the truck  -  so they think.  Amazing they get caught out so often.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 25, 2018, 04:01:38 pm
^She'll try playing the 'victim' soon enough.  It will never be her fault.  Watch her blame Harry/PC/HM etc. for forbidding her to contact her father.

I see Daddy Dearest playing victim now. He could have just called up and asked about the Father's Day card. I hope he goes away. He's a real whinger.

How can Harry and Meghan control a loose cannon. Charles whinges himself so maybe he is sympathetic to Tom


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 26, 2018, 12:21:23 pm
If she can meet Trump, she can meet me: Meghan's dad claims he is getting the 'cold shoulder' from the royal family but says he's 'nowhere near as bad' as 'arrogant and insensitive' President
Thomas Markle claims he's been snubbed by the royal family in favour of 'arrogant and insensitive' U.S. President Donald Trump.
The 73-year-old said he hadn't talked to his daughter Meghan or anyone from Kensington Palace since his explosive Good Morning Britain interview.
He accused the royals of giving him the cold shoulder in response to last week's interview and felt he'd been put in the 'penalty box'.
Mr Markle was particularly unhappy President Trump would meet the Queen, Meghan's grandmother-in-law before he did.
'If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant and insensitive president she has no excuse not to meet me, I'm nowhere near as bad.' he told TMZ.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5886875/Meghans-dad-Thomas-Markle-claims-getting-cold-shoulder-royal-family.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on June 26, 2018, 02:28:48 pm
Wow.  He just won't stop.  I can understand being frustrated with a father (and extended family) who does this.  On the other hand, she needs to find a solution to the problem of him airing his feelings to the press.  It's beyond time that she should see him and introduce Harry.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2018, 02:47:43 pm
Tom Sr is a loose cannon. Uncle Gary was all but silenced after his embarrassing comments about William and Kate. I think there will be efforts to keep Tom Sr in check.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 26, 2018, 03:09:11 pm
^^^This one has traction in the US media and all support goes to Thomas Markle.  Almost all of our media is liberal so they're not going to do one solitary thing to downplay this.

^How can the BRF do anything to keep him "in check"?  Give him money?  He'll broadcast that and I don't think Harry has enough money to buy off the Markles.  It's a bottomless well.  Ask him nicely?  He's a free citizen and will say his right to speak is being suppressed which will cause ww3 in the media world and will not help the BRF's mission.

The Fact is, while I or anyone else may not approve of the father's behavior, there are much larger laws protecting everything he does short of threatening anyone.  And with the media's endless thirst for anything resembling a hot topic political voice, the BRF will lose.

The Markles will remain a source of discomfort and entertainment for the duration.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on June 26, 2018, 04:13:59 pm
Seems to me that he is more upset at not being able to meet the queen more than seeing his daughter and meeting his son-in-law for the first time.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 26, 2018, 04:29:36 pm
Oh well, it's the case of letting one cockroach in your home.. they never come alone. If Markle can have a "sweet moment with the queen" then daddy can have that too. I, for one, applaud him for playing the media. After all, where's his Burberry endorsement deal and makeover from Oprah. So far the Markles prove to be more interesting than boring pushing too hard MEghan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2018, 04:30:14 pm
^^^This one has traction in the US media and all support goes to Thomas Markle.  Almost all of our media is liberal so they're not going to do one solitary thing to downplay this.

^How can the BRF do anything to keep him "in check"?  Give him money?  He'll broadcast that and I don't think Harry has enough money to buy off the Markles.  It's a bottomless well.  Ask him nicely?  He's a free citizen and will say his right to speak is being suppressed which will cause ww3 in the media world and will not help the BRF's mission.

The Fact is, while I or anyone else may not approve of the father's behavior, there are much larger laws protecting everything he does short of threatening anyone.  And with the media's endless thirst for anything resembling a hot topic political voice, the BRF will lose.

The Markles will remain a source of discomfort and entertainment for the duration.

I wouldn't say the "US" supports him. I find his rants embarrassing.

I think he will try to milk his 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can but he'll get boring after a while.

Doria has disappeared from the media for now. I doubt she'll want to fan the flames of her ex's complaints to the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 26, 2018, 04:56:09 pm
Doria signed an NDA and complained about it in the press.

Quote
I think he will try to milk his 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can but he'll get boring after a while.

I disagree. Look how far the milking of the 15 min of fame got his daughter. It's not his turn. A knighthood for providing Markle with the royal connection is a good next step for him. Until then - media hype till KP and MM run out of "poor Meghan" angles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 26, 2018, 05:03:59 pm
Thomas Markle is Upset President Trump Will Meet the Queen Before Him
Thomas Markle thinks the Royal Family is putting him in the "penalty box" after his "Good Morning Britain" interview a week ago, especially since President Trump is getting to meet Her Majesty before him.

Thomas tells TMZ, he hasn't spoken with anyone from the palace since last week's interview. Not even his daughter, Meghan ... who, of course, has been busy with royal stuff.

Markle thinks he's getting the cold shoulder, and tells TMZ ... “If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant, ignorant, and insensitive president she has no excuse not to meet me, I’m nowhere near as bad.” Trump's scheduled to meet Elizabeth in the U.K. next month. 

Despite the perceived diss ... Thomas says he still has every intention of crossing the pond to see Meghan, and finally meet Harry. As for QE2 ... fingers crossed!
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/26/thomas-markle-pissed-president-trump-meeting-queen/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 26, 2018, 05:11:43 pm
^^^I didn't say the US supports him, I said the US media will.  And they will.  They'll use him for whatever agenda they have.  This will sell.  His daughter?  Not so much.

This has meat in it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2018, 05:13:08 pm
Doria signed an NDA and complained about it in the press.

Quote
I think he will try to milk his 15 minutes of fame for as long as he can but he'll get boring after a while.

I disagree. Look how far the milking of the 15 min of fame got his daughter. It's not his turn. A knighthood for providing Markle with the royal connection is a good next step for him. Until then - media hype till KP and MM run out of "poor Meghan" angles.

He and Meghan are two different entities. I can't see this guy getting a knighthood.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 26, 2018, 06:18:43 pm
^ They are a father and a daughter and blood is thicker than water.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2018, 06:28:12 pm
Tom Sr. is one of a kind


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on June 26, 2018, 09:27:00 pm
^ They are a father and a daughter and blood is thicker than water.

Sometimes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2018, 12:17:14 am
Thomas Markle is Upset President Trump Will Meet the Queen Before Him
Thomas Markle thinks the Royal Family is putting him in the "penalty box" after his "Good Morning Britain" interview a week ago, especially since President Trump is getting to meet Her Majesty before him.

Thomas tells TMZ, he hasn't spoken with anyone from the palace since last week's interview. Not even his daughter, Meghan ... who, of course, has been busy with royal stuff.

Markle thinks he's getting the cold shoulder, and tells TMZ ... “If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant, ignorant, and insensitive president she has no excuse not to meet me, I’m nowhere near as bad.” Trump's scheduled to meet Elizabeth in the U.K. next month. 

Despite the perceived diss ... Thomas says he still has every intention of crossing the pond to see Meghan, and finally meet Harry. As for QE2 ... fingers crossed!
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/26/thomas-markle-pissed-president-trump-meeting-queen/

As if the Queen would even want to see him after he mouths off that way. He's self sabotaging again.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on June 27, 2018, 12:52:14 am
Anger has a unique way of clouding one's judgement. It's also hard for some people to believe that they are at fault for their own decisions.

Thomas should be angry with himself and not his daughter for getting paid for a pap stroll that looked desperate for attention and money, but he is choosing to ignore that because anger has clouded his judgement that he wasn't allowed to go to a royal wedding because of the paid pap stroll.

:oooh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2018, 01:55:03 pm
He did have the heart condition. No doctor has refuted it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 27, 2018, 03:23:01 pm
To be fair, no doctor has confirmed it either. But let's say he did anyway.  What kind of *fool* is he to go get a bucket of greasy fried chicken right after having a heart attack? Seems pretty odd to me.

 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on June 27, 2018, 03:27:31 pm
^^I don't think he ever had a heart procedure. I believe it was made up to garner sympathy for him, make people forget about the paid pap stroll and to make sure he didn't attend the wedding.

^All the more reason as to why I don't think he had a heart procedure, he ordered fast food right after.  bignono

My mother had a minor heart attack last year, and the cardiologist told her to lay off the processed fats and salt, which are both in fast food.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2018, 03:46:52 pm
I think it was a minor procedure. Apparently he is not going on any sort of healthy diet anytime soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 27, 2018, 05:48:26 pm
I don't believe the heart attack stories either. If anything, he went in complaining of symptoms and they kept him for observation.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 27, 2018, 06:37:18 pm
No doctor will comment anyway, as no doctor is allowed to speak on their patient's state unless the patient okays it and it is unnecessary and far fetched that Thomas would consent.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 27, 2018, 11:54:40 pm
TMZ has a knack for getting medical info on folks. They've got plants everywhere. Have they not said anything?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 28, 2018, 12:27:07 pm
TMZ reported a stent was put in because of blockage. I don't recall if Tom confirmed this or not.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 28, 2018, 01:33:25 pm
TMZ has a knack for getting medical info on folks. They've got plants everywhere. Have they not said anything?

The only info that is out is that he did have surgery and it was a blockage in his aorta Thomas said so himself when he did a interview with GMB.

@ TMZ yeah they have plants everywhere they find out info before anyone else :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 28, 2018, 03:21:09 pm
So where is his daughter, you know, the one who loves him so much, who cried that he won't be at the wedding, who begged her husband to host him as a tourist even though post-surgery he most likely can't fly (the surgery and the real reason that he's in Mexico). Where's the daughter, huh?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 28, 2018, 03:52:41 pm
Smuggy Smirkles is busy healing the Queen.  She brought HM some chicken soup, and is patting her hand and harping on the importance of family as we speak.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on June 28, 2018, 09:37:48 pm
^Made with organic, locally sourced chickens and veggies.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 28, 2018, 10:09:13 pm
^That, or she dipped her toe in vegetable soup to make it all chickeny-like.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 28, 2018, 10:45:32 pm
The Truth About the Complicated Relationship Between Meghan Markle and Her Father Thomas
Plunged into the spotlight for the first time, with no idea how to cope, Thomas Markle turned to a man well-versed in notoriety.
Over a series of chats, his future son-in-law, Prince Harry, along with his daughter Meghan Markle, stressed the importance of not engaging. "For the most part, it was always, 'Don't speak to the press,'" he explained without a single trace of irony while giving his first tell-all interview to Good Morning Britain. "They were very emphatic about not giving any information to the press or talking to them because it just encourages them more. So, nonetheless, that's what I tried to do."
But a year of seeing unflattering images of him buying cans of beer or taking the trash out of his home in Rosarito, Mexico began to wear and soon he put forth his infamous plan to have photographers snap staged pictures of him. "Obviously that all went to hell," he admitted, "and I feel bad about it. I apologized for it and that's all I can do. I can't do much beyond that."
Welllll, he probably could have chosen not to do it again. But there he was, not even a month after the royal wedding and the whole will-he-or-won't-he-walk-her-down-the-aisle debacle, accepting a $10,000 payout for that half-hour long interview with Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid.
Meghan hasn't commented on his decision to riff on everything from Harry's thoughts on Brexit ("I think he was open to the experiment") to his successful heart surgery ("They went up through my groin,") to how he gave his blessing for the pair to wed ("I said, 'You're a gentleman. Promise me you'll never raise your hand against my daughter,'"). But
Kensington Palace insiders have made it clear that neither they, nor the royal couple themselves, were looped in.
So it seems safe to label this another blunder in the father-daughter duo's complicated relationship—one that was tenuous well before Thomas grabbed hold of that Images of Britain book and posed for his first staged photograph.
As with most parental relationships, everything started out well. To hear Meghan tell it, her early days growing up in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley were downright idyllic.

Having crossed paths on a soap opera set in the late 1970s—"I like to think he was drawn to her sweet eyes and her Afro, plus their shared love of antiques," Markle wrote in an essay for Elle UK—her lighting director father and studio temp mother wed, welcomed Meghan and settled into a leafy suburban neighborhood in short order.
The overwhelming white area was far from diverse, but Thomas took strides to shield his youngest daughter from any discrimination. "When I was about seven, I had been fawning over a boxed set of Barbie dolls," Meghan recalled to Elle. "It was called The Heart Family and included a mom doll, a dad doll, and two children. This perfect nuclear family was only sold in sets of white dolls or black dolls. I don't remember coveting one over the other, I just wanted one. On Christmas morning, swathed in glitter-flecked wrapping paper, there I found my Heart Family: a black mom doll, a white dad doll, and a child in each color. My dad had taken the sets apart and customized my family."
So while her mom was fending off stares from the neighbors as she held her light-skinned child, Meghan was blissfully ignorant to the fact that she was somewhat unlike her peers: "They crafted the world around me to make me feel like I wasn't different but special."
Even after they divorced, Meghan's parents took pains not to upend her world. Most of the time, she lived with her mom, yoga teacher and social worker Doria Ragland, their relationship so close Meghan named her one of the "10 Women Who Changed My Life" in a 2017 Glamour article. But afternoons belonged to her father.
By trade he was a lighting director and photographer on Married...with Children, but a 1990 California State Lottery victory (using five numbers including Meghan's Aug. 4 birthday) gave him enough of a nest egg to send his little girl to Immaculate Heart, an upscale private academy. And after the final bell, she'd report to the set of the Fox sitcom, "which is a really funny and perverse place for a little girl in a Catholic school uniform to grow up," she told Esquire in 2013. "There were a lot of times my dad would say, 'Meg, why don't you go and help with the craft services room over there? This is just a little off-color for your 11-year-old eyes.'" (While she wasn't allowed to tune into the provocative sitcom, "I could watch the end credits so I could give the screen a kiss when I saw my dad's name go by.")
His guidance went even deeper when she was faced with a mandatory census form in a seventh grade English class. "You had to check one of the boxes to indicate your ethnicity: white, black, Hispanic or Asian," she recalled to Elle. "There I was (my curly hair, my freckled face, my pale skin, my mixed race) looking down at these boxes, not wanting to mess up, but not knowing what to do. You could only choose one, but that would be to choose one parent over the other—and one half of myself over the other."
She relayed the story to Thomas that night, how her teacher had informed her to "check the box for Caucasian 'because that's how you look," but that she couldn't bring herself to summarily reject her mother, and watched as his face grew red in anger. "He said the words that have always stayed with me," she wrote, "'If that happens again, you draw your own box.'"
He fostered her creativity in other ways, too. When she got into the theater scene at Immaculate Heart, Thomas volunteered to craft sets for their plays, a former classmate revealed to People, "and he would volunteer his time even after Meghan graduated. She was close with her parents. They were affectionate."
Still, as a source told People their relationship could be rollercoaster-like with "ups and downs over the year." And in the months before she left for Northwestern University, where she would double major in theater and international relations, they seemed to be on the decline.
In the clip from a home video Meghan's former pal Ninaki Priddy gave to British newspaper The Sun, the 18-year-old aspiring actress points in the direction of her father's place before asserting, "From Dad's house, you can see the Hollywood sign. But we aren't going to go there because my dad and I aren't on the best of terms."
By the time she landed her breakout role in Suits in 2011, after bit parts on The League and 90210, they were back on the ascent. In her 2017 Vanity Fair profile, Meghan spoke about how both parents offered emotional support as they watched her audition and try "to make ends meet, taking all the odds-and-ends jobs to pay my bills. I was doing calligraphy, and I was a hostess at a restaurant—and all those things that actors do." As a Hollywood vet, she said, her dad was especially chuffed when she landed the USA legal drama. "My father knew how hard it is for an actor to get work," she said, "so he above all people was so proud that I was about to beat the odds."
Though Thomas had moved south of the border (the San Diego Union-Tribune reported he lives in an oceanfront gated community with other American ex-pats) and Meghan was stationed in Toronto, he'd offer his well-honed expertise from afar.
"I will always find my light. No question," she told Esquire. "And if I don't, I'll know, because my dad will be the first person to call me and say like, 'You need to have him bring another 2K in,' and 'Why aren't you using this sort of lighting gel?'"
And in a 2016 Father's Day post on her since-deleted Instagram account she credited him with providing a slew of her best traits, writing, "Thanks for my work ethic, my love of Busby Berkeley films & club sandwiches, for teaching me the importance of handwritten thank you notes, and for giving me that signature Markle nose. I love you."
Their relationship was one of give-and-take, with Meghan offering her own type of assistance over the years. Though the L.A. native's (clearly estranged) half-siblings accused her of abandoning their father when he declared bankruptcy in 2016, that was hardly the case, a source told People. (Samantha Grant is currently penning a memoir, The Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister and Thomas Markle Jr.'s son grew his own strain of cannabis, the "Markle Sparkle" to sell in honor of the vows, so their motives can comfortable be put into question.) Meghan, insisted the source, has "been supportive of him in every way, including financially. She has paid many of her father's bills over the years."
And by Thomas' own account, she was eager to welcome him into her new royal fold. Ahead of his planned role in the May 19 nuptials, she arranged for him to have fittings at Beverly Hills ateliers and none other than the royal cobblers were tasked with making his custom shoes. "I was excited about it and ready for it," he said of walking Meghan down the aisle in his June 18 Good Morning Britain interview. "It was all set in place for me to go."
Even after his misstep with the paparazzi—a move that likely cut deep with Harry's who's long rallied for the privacy of his bride and her family—they embraced him. As he stated his case to both Meghan and Harry and apologized for going rogue, "They were very forgiving," he revealed, and stressed again that they were prepared and excited for him to visit them at Kensington Palace and participate in their vows, Harry having even enlisted a military pal to help look after him should they get distracted by other wedding obligations. It wasn't until he learned he needed to have heart surgery that the duo tapped Harry's dad Prince Charles to serve as replacement.
After all, Thomas' biggest crime was wanting to appear worthy of his little princess. "This was a presentation to me to change my image because for the last year photographs of me were always derogatory," he explained. "They'd take pictures of my hand grabbing a beer. They'd take pictures of me getting in my car, taking the garbage out. They'd take pictures of me buying a toilet and making a big deal out of it. They'd take all kinds of pictures of me, making me look negative. So I thought this would be a nice way of improving my look."
But his latest act may just be his worst look yet. By all accounts Meghan and Harry were blindsided with the interview, which took place not long after they arrived home from their private African honeymoon. "They were not given advanced warning," a source told ET. "They understand he has been harassed by the paparazzi 24/7 but it's hard for them to accept his apology when he's again taking cash."
Good Morning Britain host Morgan tried his best to defend his guest, noting he could have pocketed much more than $10,000 for the chat and was simply interested in "having his say". But beyond the money, worldwide exclusive interviews are the sorts of activities that are generally run by the palace and appropriately vetted. And having the newly minted duchess' father giving an off-the-cuff, my side of the story-type interview with little media training is simply not the done thing.
Thomas seemed to at least consider that the palace wouldn't approve of his actions, musing that he hoped they wouldn't be offended and that they'd "understand my feelings." But the silent treatment he's received the past week from both the royal family—and his daughter—appears to be a solid indication that they don't.
Rather than apologize for, once again, going rogue, Thomas seemed to double down on his decision by speaking to TMZ this week. Opining he's been put in the "penalty box," he went on the offensive, lashing out at Queen Elizabeth II for agreeing to meet with Trump when he visits the UK in July. "If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant, ignorant, and insensitive president she has no excuse not to meet me," he fumed. "I'm nowhere near as bad."
Perhaps not, but Meghan can hardly be thrilled he's speaking out again and this time lashing out at the in-laws she's doubtlessly trying to impress. While it remains to be seen what her next move will be, our money is on The Firm's newest member choosing the most discreet avenue possible.
As for Thomas, he may want to reflect back on Harry's previous words and remember those crucial instructions: Above all, thou shall not speak to reporters.
https://m.eonline.com/news/947147/the-truth-about-the-complicated-relationship-between-meghan-markle-and-her-father-thomas
Mods, I didn’t realize it was so long so please condense if the link works for everyone.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 28, 2018, 11:13:25 pm
Bi racial children and young adults are now not considered "rare." It's not like those old movies like IMitation of Life where the young woman "passed" for white. That world is long out of existence.

I hope he does not have a book ghost written. SOme of it sound like he exaggerates somewhat.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 28, 2018, 11:58:30 pm
We're not going to get the truth from either side- Murky's or Pa Mugshot's.  I'm just sitting back and enjoying this whole shyteshow.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on June 29, 2018, 07:29:31 am
QE is allegedly cringing and furious at this awful family and was said to have been overheard saying that she didn’t think there could have been an even worse family manipulating their way in than the Middletons.  She has had to put on a brave face and look inclusive  as can’t risk the plummet in popularity the Monarchy received after Diana’s death.  Her usual MO is to appear in public with the latest member to offset any rumours of her fury.  As soon she goes though the Monarchy will slide downhill fast in to oblivion as even the staunchest supporters are heartily sick of the OTT spending.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 29, 2018, 11:27:59 pm
The Queen is used to embarrassments by now (she had them from her two firstborn sons) and I think she knows how to deal with it.  The Queen seemed very friendly to Meghan and she did exactly the same thing with Kate (going on a tour with Kate and now with Meghan). Maybe it will be "suggested" to Tom that he just shut up.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 30, 2018, 01:02:20 am
Is Meghan about to cut all ties with her father? The Duchess of Sussex hasn't spoken to Thomas Markle since THAT bombshell interview where he gave up details of private conversations with Prince Harry and now courtiers are at a loss over how to handle him

Of all the problems Meghan Markle anticipated in her transformation from actress to duchess after marrying into the Royal Family, this was surely the one she least expected.

So imagine what must go through her mind when she reaches for the telephone to call her father. Hardly a day goes past without a headline that seemingly emanates from the private thoughts of Thomas Markle.

Just this week we’ve had reports of his sadness at not receiving a Father’s Day card from his daughter and a bizarre outburst about Donald Trump’s meeting with the Queen next month. ‘If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant and insensitive president,’ he was quoted as saying by the U.S. gossip website TMZ, ‘she has no excuse not to meet me, I’m nowhere near as bad.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902447/Is-Meghan-cut-ties-father.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 30, 2018, 01:10:57 am
The media pays too much attention to the rants. If nobody paid attention to him he'd go away.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on June 30, 2018, 01:21:25 am
He's entertaining. That's why the media pays attention to him. I'm sure that his stories sell better than Meghan's clothes. As for the queen, I really wish I could feel sorry for her but I don't. There's no spin and not enough angles to wash up the newest members into a respectable and proper lady. It's the opposite that is happening - royalty with a lot of trash equals cheap z-list reality show where the dad is more interesting than the bride.  8)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on June 30, 2018, 04:43:14 am
Meghan Markle's half sister Samantha Grant is 'being wooed by Celebrity Big Brother bosses' who want her to appear on the next series of the reality show because she will be a 'ratings winner'
But according to TV sources, bosses at Channel 5 want her to move from her Florida home and spend the summer in the UK to take part in Celebrity Big Brother.
An insider told The Daily Star: 'The theme for this summer's CBB series is understood to be 'Scandal' so Sam is ideal for this.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5902993/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-Celebrity-Big-Brother-series.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on June 30, 2018, 05:31:04 am
^

It just gets worse and worse and will all contribute to the end of the Monarchy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 30, 2018, 10:23:12 am
I can see Sam doing Celebrity Big Brother UK if true ,but thought Celebrity Big Brother US would try and get her first for season two and if both want Sam which one will she pick to go on


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on June 30, 2018, 02:51:21 pm
^Maybe because the US isn’t as obsessed with this as the UK.  The only time I’ve seen any full court press about any of this family is when they turn political.  So, higher ratings in UK means more $.  Samantha would do better with a “tell-all” book here that was banned in the UK.  That would really sell and I’m not counting that out yet.  There’s talk of it being pitched around.

Or, why not both?   :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 30, 2018, 03:03:41 pm
^ My thoughts too! Celeb Big Brother in the UK (for sure greater interest and ratings than if she were in CBB in US) and a book deal for the US market, as she could write more freely & best case scenario be banned in the UK. That would drive PR for the book up massively, and in the UK it would still be obtainable via US imports. :June: :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 30, 2018, 03:48:18 pm
I wouldn't buy it. And it would probably end up in the bargain bin. She criticizes her half sister then tries to make money because she's her half sister. SHe could haVe played nice and gotten an invite to the wedding. It's all on Sam.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on June 30, 2018, 04:13:40 pm
Sam could have been as sweet as sugar, she still wouldn't have received an invitation. No one except Doria was invited, even Doria was shipped in last minute and shipped out straight after, not even the diplomat uncle received an invitation. Some say they spotted a sibling or some such of Doria's, but I don't know. In any case that person if family was relegated to the cheap seats and Doria sat on her own with the Suits cast next to her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on June 30, 2018, 04:40:12 pm
Doria was seeing her only child get married. She's set upon by her former step children but just went right back to her life. I think she prefers going back to her life but of course she will be there for her daughter and I don't doubt she will visit her daughter and vice versa. Doria probably decided on the time table. She has a sense of self that I don't think she is one to be "shipped" off like a UPS package.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on June 30, 2018, 04:54:44 pm
@Sandy agree with you on this. From what I know of her she likes her life in LA. She is not going to get on or have the motivation to be an England like her daughter. And as much as she showed what I believed to be the most Grace and class of the whole lot of them at that wedding she still is not going to be taken in by the royal family like her daughter. Nor is she like a Carole Middleton that will push her away in


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 01, 2018, 01:57:06 am
^Maybe because the US isn’t as obsessed with this as the UK.  The only time I’ve seen any full court press about any of this family is when they turn .  So, higher ratings in UK means more $.  Samantha would do better with a “tell-all” book here that was banned in the UK.  That would really sell and I’m not counting that out yet.  There’s talk of it being pitched around.

Or, why not both?   :tehe:

True with CBBUS political spin season 1 did pretty good and only because Omorsa was in the house and they was hoping she would give deets on Trump
With Sam with her half sister being a Duchess they think she might have deets too.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 01, 2018, 02:43:42 am
Don't be mean to your dad, Meghan - Harry won't like it, writes LIZ JONES
First, let me say I loved, loved, loved your two wedding dresses. I think you have the best legs since Cyd Charisse.  :tehe: :tehe: :tehe: :tehe: :tehe: :tehe: :tehe:
And remember that you were the one who foisted notoriety on him. He didn't ask for the limelight. He needed some media training and a minder with the wedding coming up. He got neither.
Never mind that 'courtiers are at a loss what to do with him'. If you are such an independent woman, why don't you take charge; why don't you decide?
Being churlish and vindictive is not a trait Harry would find remotely attractive, given he seems to be gracious with everyone.
So you need to be the bigger person and reach out. Don't be tempted to text: you're not 12. Don't put out an official press release stating 'I have always cared for my father'.
That's passive aggressive. And tell him you love him like you love your beagle; trust me, a father's love is just as unconditional.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5905075/Dont-mean-dad-Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-wont-like-writes-LIZ-JONES.html

Queen's PR chief to leave Palace in dramatic changing of the guard amid ongoing senior courtier reshuffle... as Thomas Markle debacle continues to embarrass Royal family
Ms Osman, 57, previously a communications chief at the BBC, Sony and Sky, was hired on a six-figure salary in 2013 as Communications Secretary for the Prince of Wales at Clarence House and was later given the tricky job of co-ordinating the separate media departments at Clarence House, Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace.
She has faced a difficult time as Kensington Palace tried to manage PR calamities around the marriage of Prince Harry to Meghan Markle.
This newspaper revealed that Meghan’s father Thomas was secretly working with a paparazzi photographer to sell posed pictures despite Palace claims that he wished to preserve his privacy.
There was even more embarrassment when Mr Markle gave a toe-curling television interview to ITV, for which he reportedly received £7,500.
He revealed details of a telephone call he had with Prince Harry in which the prince gave his views on Brexit and Donald Trump.
Ms Osman has had some success, notably the BBC ‘interview’ by the Queen on the 65th anniversary of the Coronation, and managing news of Prince Philp’s retirement. Ms Osman declined to comment last night.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5904735/Queens-PR-chief-leave-Palace-dramatic-changing-guard-amid-senior-courtier-reshuffle.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 01, 2018, 03:51:16 am
What a frickin grenade Harry threw at the BRF.  Wow.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 01, 2018, 03:57:11 am
In the immortal words of Judge Judy:
"You chose HER, Sir!"


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on July 01, 2018, 04:00:33 am
^Please consider the source whenever the Fail publish anything like this. They put their own spin on it. I doubt very much that this is to do with Tom Markle. If it was then Jason Knauf's head would have been long gone at KP. This may well be yet another rearrangement before more taking over of HM's duties by Charles. It's well known that CH staff and BP officials have definitely clashed over the last couple of years, especially over Charles PR and handling of the three offices. Sir Christopher didn't resign over Tom Markle, and this is possibly more of what went on earlier.

^ Liz Jones journalist, knows all the ins and outs of the Markle family does she, including why Tom has been broadcasting his views about his daughter and son in law for money?  Wonder whether Liz's own family realations are so sparkling pure and unruffled in every way that she has room to lecture others in a tabloid article.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 01, 2018, 04:22:56 pm
Harry did throw a grenade  and from the recent photographs I seen not that attractive  of a
grenade. Who is doing her make up?
 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 03, 2018, 01:45:24 am
'Will he do another interview? He just might' - Meghan Markle's father Thomas is struggling to cope after being 'shunned' by daughter
He is said to consider his youngest as his pride and joy, with another source saying: "Tom is well-read and well-travelled, he has been to Europe before, has an encyclopedic knowledge of Hollywood and is knowledgeable about the royals.
"And when he speaks about Meghan his eyes glow with pride. He’s got a 20-year-old Volvo and the back seat is covered with celebrity magazines with Meghan on the cover."
"He is considering what he’ll do next. Will he do another interview? He just might."
https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/will-he-do-another-interview-he-just-might-meghan-markles-father-thomas-is-struggling-to-cope-after-being-shunned-by-daughter-37066400.html
I really hope he does.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 03, 2018, 03:42:42 am
He really needs to do weekly podcasts  :Kate:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 03, 2018, 06:37:54 am
^He really does.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 03, 2018, 01:59:09 pm
I think he shunned his daughter. I would not listen to a podcast of his if someone paid me to do it. I hope his 15 mins are up soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 03, 2018, 02:50:29 pm
Not sure about that.  Smuggy has a habit of ghosting: family, friends, husbands, pets...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 03, 2018, 03:09:40 pm
It looks more like M did & does the shunning than Thomas.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 03, 2018, 03:50:07 pm
I wonder if he's going to go on a better diet. His concern should be protecting his health, did the doctor put him on a diet?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 03, 2018, 03:52:30 pm
Haha he is probably okay to have Original Recipe than Extra Crispy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 03, 2018, 04:26:07 pm
When you leave the hospital, article bag in tow, and go straight to the drive-thru window, it's safe to say you could give two craps about a heart-healthy diet.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 03, 2018, 05:37:08 pm
It looks more like M did & does the shunning than Thomas.

Exactly.  She has a history of quick, clean, discarding of those she "apparently" loves.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 03, 2018, 06:22:20 pm
^ Exactly. But even without her usual M.O. / history of dropping people like hot potatoes (incl respectable family), it looks very much like M has been shunning Thomas, not Thomas Megs. And I'd wager a bet the shunning started right around when H entered M's life.
Thomas seems desperate to have his daughter in his life, and his daughter who's "always cared for her father" doesn't seem to give a rat's a*s, unless it reflects PR-wise badly on her, in which case she'll release a pathetic statement, she has a history in that too. Pathetic statements seem to be her thing as much as dropping people is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 03, 2018, 06:38:03 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle's father and estranged half-brother are reunited near the Mexican border as they try to end seven-year feud which was exacerbated by the royal wedding
Meghan Markle's father and her estranged half-brother have met up for the first time since 2011, DailyMail.com can reveal.
Thomas Markle Sr, 73, and Thomas Markle Jr, 51, have been estranged for several years but spent time together last week in a reunion that a source described as having 'gone better than expected'.
Despite the bad blood, the meeting between the two is understood to have gone well – but a source told DailyMail.com that real reconciliation 'will take time'.
The source said: 'They met up and it went better than expected. This has been going on since before Meghan and Harry started dating.  ???
He also issued a plea for the now Duchess of Sussex to consider a family reunion and insisted that she would never have forgotten him.
'Gosh, I'm not that distant,' he told DailyMail.com. 'But like I said before, when she took off to start her career [in Toronto], everybody becomes distant – even my father got it.
'He probably got a little upset because he wasn't needed so much anymore.'
Tom Jr added: 'She could never forget me. Her and I always got along really good, we spent a lot of time together before she left [Los Angeles in 2011].
'She knows who I am and I'm not distant, I may be distant distance wise, as in 4,000 miles, but that's it.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5913887/Meghan-Markles-father-estranged-half-brother-reunited-near-Mexican-border.html
This makes Meghan look even smaller than she because they now that family’s thicker than whatever squabbles they’ve had. I expect another interview or even Oprah to have them on her tv network to try and heal the family riffs between them and Samantha.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 04, 2018, 12:12:49 am
Something tells me this family is about to join forces and it won't be good for anyone outside of their circle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 04, 2018, 12:16:34 am
They all need to chill out for a while.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 04, 2018, 12:25:18 am
They need an agent, if they don’t already.  And a good one. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 04, 2018, 12:29:56 am
Oh dear. Then they will be on Dancing with the Stars in no time. I can see this happening.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 04, 2018, 01:20:12 am
Meghan Markle Reportedly Hasn’t Talked to Her Dad After His Blabby Interviews
The predictable consequences of Meghan Markle’s father Thomas talking surprisingly, regularly, and openly to the press despite his daughter and her husband Prince Harry’s request he not are starting to be felt by Thomas, Us Weekly is reporting.
A palace insider told the outlet that the new Duchess of Sussex currently isn’t talking to her father and hasn’t for a month. “Meghan hasn’t spoken to Thomas since the day after her wedding,” the palace source told the outlet. The entire royal family, in fact, is "frustrated" with Thomas’s continued Good Morning Britain and TMZ interviews—all of which they weren’t notified of before the interviews happened.
Another source put it more bluntly: Thomas needs to stop, or he’s not going to have a relationship with Meghan or Harry. "Thomas is walking a fine line,” the second source said. “This blabbing needs to stop if he wants to maintain any relationship with Harry and Meghan. This will definitely have an effect on whether Harry meets Thomas or not now."
A source close to Thomas (who may or may not be Thomas himself) told the outlet that “Thomas adores his daughter and swears he never wanted attention from the interviews. All he’s ever cared about is protecting Meghan.” Ok.
https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a22035131/meghan-markle-thomas-markle-not-talking-report/
I love it because they have nothing to lose and money to make so it's good for them that she's not talking to the father and cut him off. She has nerve anyway because she gave her blabby interview to Vanity Fair when she was "dating" Harry. The only way to get the Markles to go away is to have MM booted out of the royal family after she's publicly shamed and signed an iron clad NDA so she won't be able to talk or make money off her scam.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 04, 2018, 01:47:17 am
Sorry for the double post, but tho is related to my previous post.
SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Prince Charles's friend says Meghan Markle's wedding dress 'was made of concrete', describes her father as a 'huge lump' and says the royals don't know how to deal with her 'frightfully common' family
After Kensington Palace confirmed that Prince Harry had started courting Suits actress Meghan Markle, the Prince issued an impassioned statement condemning the Press for its so-called 'abuse' of his girlfriend who is now is wife.
Perhaps Harry should have extended the warning to his father Prince Charles's friends, too.
Last night, Old Etonian interior designer Nicky Haslam, 78, who is a good friend of the royals, launched an astonishing verbal assault on the Duchess of Sussex's family whom he deems 'common' as well as making disobliging remarks about her wedding dress.
Born to one of Queen Victoria's goddaughters, Haslam socialised with Princess Diana, has worked for Prince Charles, and once sang in front of the Queen.
The designer believes the absence of Meghan's siblings and father Thomas Markle from the royal nuptials was a blessing in disguise. Markle senior cancelled his appearance because of a heart operation after selling staged images of himself a week before the wedding.
'They're frightfully common,' says Haslam. 'It would have been awful if that huge lump [Meghan's father] had been there.
'The royals probably don't quite know how to deal with them.'
Haslam makes an exception for Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland. 'One person who wasn't common was her mother,' he concedes.
Haslam also criticised Meghan's £200,000 Givenchy bridal gown by British designer Clare Waight Keller.
'I didn't very much like her dress — it didn't fit, among other things,' he adds. 'It should have been made of thinner stuff, it seemed to be made of concrete.'
Might Haslam,who is also a cabaret singer, be upset that he wasn't booked to perform at the royal wedding?
Harry and Meghan still have a chance to see him — as he's singing tonight at the Pheasantry on Chelsea's King's Road at 8.30pm.  :tehe: :tehe:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5915061/Prince-Charless-friend-describes-Meghan-Markles-father-huge-lump-andfrightfully-common.html
Boot Megs out as she's the head of the snake that keeps this family in the press.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 04, 2018, 04:15:04 pm
Something tells me this is not just coming from Haslam.  He's too friendly with the RF  to want to embarrass them.  Remember the way Charles'  friends leaked bout Diana??!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 04, 2018, 04:24:28 pm
Wonder if Penny Junor is going to get in on this too


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 04, 2018, 08:15:06 pm
I would side with anyone over nasty Penny Junor. She's a crawling sycophant as far as I'm concerned.

Haslem is behaving "commonly."

I don't like these people. Dreadful. IT could backlash if Junor starts her hatchet job on Harry's wife. Big Time. William may side with Harry against their father if this nonsense is pulled.

Poison Penny though will get honors when Charles is king that I am sure of.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 05, 2018, 02:09:24 am
Meghan Markle's mother Doria picks up pastries near her L.A. home as she maintains her dignified silence while the rest of her daughter's family are dubbed 'frightfully common' by a friend of Prince Charles
Doria, who has maintained a dignified silence since long before the royal wedding, was casual for the outing in a pair of patterned trousers and an orange top.
Doria has let the media storm surrounding her daughter's wedding wash over her head.
The closest she has come to the media is when she spent six hours at Oprah's home in Santa Barbara before the wedding.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5918873/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-picks-pastries-near-L-home



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 05, 2018, 03:41:33 am
Sorry for the double post, the DM has a tendancy to change the article s regarding this family, so I'm posting this ne in full as it just got posted on the DM site.
'I think they're shot of me now': Thomas Markle fears he will not see Meghan or Harry again since missing their fairytale wedding, friend claims
Thomas Markle fears he will not see Meghan again since missing her fairytale wedding with Prince Harry, according to reports.
The 73-year-old is said to fear the royal couple are now 'shot' of him and has reportedly told friends:  'I haven't talked with Meghan and Harry in a long time... I think they're shot of me now'.
Markle Snr, who lives in Mexico, had to miss his daughter's wedding after suffering a heart attack and has not seen her since.
But while he has become increasingly distant from Meghan, he met up with his son Tom Jnr for the first time in more than four years at the weekend.
The Mirror quoted a source as saying:  'Thomas is heartbroken. He is at a complete loss as to why he has been excluded.
'I haven't talked to Meghan and Harry for a long time. I think they're shot of me now.
'I don't know if she'll visit. I told her not to come and visit when I was in hospital. I think that relationship is lost now.'    
It comes after Thomas Markle Sr and Thomas Markle Jr, met for the first time since 2011, as revealed by Dailymail.com.
They had been estranged for several years but spent time together last week in a reunion that a source described as having 'gone better than expected'.
The father and son had been at odds in the run-up to May's royal wedding over Tom Jr's decision to write an open letter in the media in which he told Prince Harry not to marry Meghan, 36, and branded her 'jaded, shallow and conceited'.
And when retired lighting director Markle Sr suffered a heart attack days before the nuptials, he pinned the blame for his ill-health on seeing his son and eldest daughter Samantha Grant, 53, publicly sniping about their sister.
Despite the bad blood, the meeting between the two is understood to have gone well – but a source told DailyMail.com that real reconciliation 'will take time'.
But older daughter Samantha, who is estranged from her brother Tom Jr, has already hit out after getting wind of the meeting – appearing to accuse the 53-year-old window fitter of setting up the reconciliation for money.
Thomas Sr was himself paid by paparazzi for staged photos in the run-up to his daughter's wedding.
Writing on Twitter, she said: 'My brother did NOT reunite with my dad – it was a set up. You paid Tom Jr him [sic] go stalk at the border and Jr was turned away.'
Markle Sr is understood to enjoy a warm relationship with both of his daughters, although sources close to the pensioner, who lives in Rosarito, Mexico, say he has not heard from Meghan since his controversial appearance on UK breakfast TV show Good Morning Britain two weeks ago.
Last week, Markle Sr gave an interview to his favored media outlet TMZ in which he complained of having been put in 'the penalty box' by the Royal family and voiced his irritation that President Trump will meet the Queen before he does.
He added: 'If the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant, ignorant, and insensitive president she has no excuse not to meet me, I'm nowhere near as bad.'
Markle's comments are thought to have ruffled feathers at Kensington Palace and come shortly after he revealed Prince Harry's views on Brexit and President Donald Trump during his Good Morning Britain interview.
The 73-year-old also caused controversy after the Mail on Sunday revealed he had been colluding with a Los Angeles-based paparazzi photographer called Jeff Rayner to set up 'candid' photos in the run-up to the Royal wedding in May.
Embarrassingly, the revelation came after Kensington Palace had spent weeks pleading for privacy on his behalf – including a message sent hours before the story was published.
The incident, friends told DailyMail.com, left him 'embarrassed'.
He then revealed, via TMZ, that he had suffered a heart attack – telling the website the coronary had been brought on by his two eldest children squabbling in the Press.
And, with just three days to go before the ceremony, he revealed that he needed an emergency operation to insert three stents and would definitely not be in Windsor for the big day.
Instead, Markle Sr spent the day of the wedding cloistered in a $31-a-night AirBNB in Baja Malibu – a scruffy gated compound less than two miles from his home.
As a result, he is still to meet his new son-in-law Prince Harry but told TMZ last week that he hopes a meeting will take place in the near future.
Sources also revealed that he is hoping to bring his fractured family back together in the wake of the wedding, after both Tom Jr and Samantha were left off the guest list.
Neither is thought to have spoken to Meghan in years, although the 36-year-old is thought to be close to Samantha's eldest daughter Ashleigh Hale, 32.
Despite their falling out, Tom Jr spent the wedding day in Windsor, England, as the paid guest of a tabloid newspaper – although he was not allowed inside St. George's Chapel.
Samantha, meanwhile, spent the day at home in Ocala, Florida, accompanied by her boyfriend Mark Phillips and an Australian news crew.
Other relations, including Tom Jr's mother Roslyn, 72, watched the ceremony at home – although cousin Nick Markle, 37, and his mother Theresa were seen visiting a branch of Burger King near their house in Sanford, Florida, and parading around in free paper crowns obtained inside.
Tom Jr previously told DailyMail.com that he thought his arrest in January 2017 after he drunkenly put a gun to his girlfriend's head might have 'embarrassed' the former actress.
He also issued a plea for the now Duchess of Sussex to consider a family reunion and insisted that she would never have forgotten him.
'Gosh, I'm not that distant,' he told DailyMail.com. 'But like I said before, when she took off to start her career [in Toronto], everybody becomes distant – even my father got it.
'He probably got a little upset because he wasn't needed so much anymore.'
Tom Jr added: 'She could never forget me. Her and I always got along really good, we spent a lot of time together before she left [Los Angeles in 2011].
'She knows who I am and I'm not distant, I may be distant distance wise, as in 4,000 miles, but that's it.'
Sister Samantha last saw Meghan at her 2008 graduation and has repeatedly hit out at the newly minted royal on Twitter, including accusing her of ignoring their father.
Markle Sr, who is thought to be in recovery following his heart attack, has spent the past two weeks at home in Mexico after traveling to San Diego, California, to take part in the Good Morning Britain interview.
He lives in a small expat community called San Antonio del Mar, which sits approximately 16 miles south of the US border crossing at San Ysidro.
Including Rosarito itself, the area is home to approximately 30,000 US expatriates – most drawn to the area by the low cost of living which includes renting a two-bedroom apartment for as little as $500-per-month and $3 taco plates.
But like the rest of Baja California, the area is plagued by violence – all due to an ongoing turf war between the Jalisco and Sonora cartels.
As a result, a recent episode of NBC's Dateline dubbed Tijuana 'the most dangerous city in Mexico' with one local morgue operator likening it to a warzone and revealing he sees up to eight murder victims a day.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5919579/Thomas-Markle-fears-not-Meghan-Harry-friend-claims.html
https://78.media.tumblr.com/f88f8601e6354bf97914745ced61ccd5/tumblr_pbd1p5bHX41vg168fo1_1280.png
It's all about the money for these family including Doria. Megs gets busted smooping through Harry's stuff in the car 3 times and she was MIA at the charity event with Harry, and out comes the father with his sad tales of wo.  :cookie: IMO, the whole lot are saying that if you want us to go away and stay quiet, pay us.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 05, 2018, 04:48:54 am
^Comment from DM article.

This is absolutely true.  An American would never use this phrasing.  And Tom M. sure didn't pick it up in Mexico either.

Quote
VK, The Sprawl, United States, about an hour ago

Americans don't say "they are shot of me now." So, who's the alleged source?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 05, 2018, 05:10:41 am
^Exactly.

And that article from Charles' friend is eerily similar to how his friends said things about Diana in the press back in the day.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 05, 2018, 07:52:56 am
^ I thought so too, also I think that's about the most printable thing "Charles's friends" say (I read that as "Charles himself", just like with Di back in the day when he leaked via "friends", but I don't doubt that his friends and pretty much everyone else in their circle (incl all other Winds as well as the Midds) says the same).

^^ When they want to put words in someone's mouth, they should do their job better and check for colloquialisms etc. Amateurs.

There is truth in that article though. Thomas has always been somewhat delusional with H&M always "just recently skyping/ facetiming/ sending pigeons". They were never really in touch. Like H claimed he asked both M's parents for their "blessing", later it transpired he skyped or whatever in December(!!!) to retroactively ask for his blessing, long after the engagement and interview.

H&M's engagement interview is as full of bs, shyte, lies and made-up cr*p as W&K's is. But that's for another thread.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 05, 2018, 08:32:38 am
^Yup. Not to mention the joint statement from her parents released via KP.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 05, 2018, 12:37:27 pm
They changed the title now to "lost" but in the byline it still says "shot"... Someone tried to cover their tracks but is still half-asleep


'I think that relationship is lost now': Thomas Markle fears he will not see Meghan ever again since missing her fairytale wedding, friend claims

    Thomas Markle Sr is said to have told friends: 'I think they are shot of me now'
    Markle Sr had to miss the royal wedding on May 19 after suffering heart attack
    He recently met up with his son, Thomas Jr, after a long period of estrangement


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 05, 2018, 05:43:47 pm
PIERS MORGAN: If you’re truly a humanitarian, Meghan, then show some damn heart to your loving father before he succumbs to a broken one
Meghan Markle is a humanitarian.
We know this because she never stops telling us.
Indeed, her official Kensington Palace royal website is laced with copious details of her devotion to charitable work.
I had first hand experience of how important this work is to her when we met in my local pub just before she started dating Harry.
‘The thing I am most proud of in my life is my humanitarian work,’ Meghan told me that night.
Her eyes radiated with joy and excitement as she talked about a recent trip she had made to Rwanda for the United Nations. ‘I have never felt as happy as I did on that trip. I was doing something meaningful, to help people less fortunate than me.’
These words were very laudable and came from someone who struck me that night as a very nice, warm, genuine person.
A few weeks after we met, Meghan penned an article for Elle magazine in which she explained that she got her caring side from her mother and father, Doria and Thomas.
‘My parents came from little,’ she wrote, ‘so they made a choice to give a lot: buying turkeys for homeless shelters at Thanksgiving, delivering meals to people at hospices, giving spare change to those asking for it. It’s what I was used to seeing, so it’s what I grew up being: a young adult with a social conscience, to do what I could do and speak up when I knew something was wrong.’
So yes, Meghan sees herself very definitely as a humanitarian, and credits her parents with instilling that virtue in her.
The dictionary definition of ‘humanitarian’ is: ‘Concerned with, or seeking to promote human welfare.’
Humanitarians are further described as ‘compassionate, humane, unselfish, altruistic, generous, magnanimous, benevolent, merciful, kind, good, sympathetic.’
So how, exactly, does all that tally with the way Meghan is now treating her own father?
Thomas Markle is not a well man.
He had heart surgery to fix a blocked aorta, in the week of his daughter Meghan’s wedding to Prince Harry back in May.
And in the past couple of weeks I’m told he has been feeling rough again and is in regular contact with doctors near his home in Mexico.
Thomas has been on blood thinning drugs since his operation that give him persistent nosebleeds.
His poor health has apparently been exacerbated by feelings of extreme loneliness and sadness brought on by what appears to be sudden total estrangement from Meghan.
To put it bluntly, the man is suffering from a broken heart in every sense of that phrase.
Since the furore in the build up to the wedding, he’s had just one brief conversation with her the day after the marriage – and there has been stony silence ever since.
That’s seven weeks of nothing, from a daughter who he loves and adores, and with whom he used to have very regular contact until she married into the British Royal Family.
She didn’t even send him a Father’s Day card or message, which particularly hurt him because she’s always done so in the past.
Indeed, just two weeks before we met in my pub in June 2016, ironically a few hundred yards from Kensington Palace, Meghan posted an Instagram photo of her and Thomas entitled ‘Happy Father’s Day’.
She wrote: ‘Thanks for my work ethic, my love of Busby Berkeley films & club sandwiches, for teaching me the importance of handwritten thank you notes, and for giving me that signature Markle nose. I love you.’
This was a woman who clearly loved her father.
Now she can’t bring herself to even talk to the man, let alone get on a plane to see how he is after his heart surgery.
‘I haven’t talked with Meghan and Harry in a long time, I think they’re shot of me,’ heartbroken Thomas is reported to have told friends.
Three weeks ago, Thomas gave his first ever TV interview to Good Morning Britain, the daily show in England that I co-present with Susanna Reid.
It was plain to me, and most who watched it, that he’s a nice, normal, humble guy who has badly struggled to deal with the stresses and strain of his daughter becoming one of the most famous women on earth.
He’s made some mistakes along the way, notably his decision to collude with paparazzi over photographs, but he’s admitted to them and explained he’s had no help with the media onslaught that hit him.
Thomas wept as he spoke of the agony of missing her wedding, and of how desperate he is to see her again and to finally meet her husband.
Meghan’s response to this emotional outpouring has been to completely blank him.
No calls, no emails, no texts, no Father’s Day card, no nothing.
Meghan is showing every sign of now doing to her own father what she has done to her ex husband, and countless friends and family members – sending them to the ice cold relationship equivalent of Siberia.
This, remember, is a woman who had just one member of her entire family to her wedding.
Of course, families can be difficult. We all know that.
I’m sure Meghan was annoyed by the paparazzi photo scandal, by Thomas’s failure to make the wedding, and by his decision to speak to the media since.
But the poor man’s been left to swing in the wind on his own 6,000 miles away while she’s been embraced and protected by the vast army of Palace staff.
It’s been a busy summer so far for the new Duchess of Sussex.
She’d had lots of glamorous occasions and parties to attend including the polo and doubtless very soon, Wimbledon tennis to see her friend Serena Williams.
Meanwhile, her ailing dad is on his own back in Mexico, suffering – and there’s no sign his ‘humanitarian’ daughter gives a damn about him.
I think it’s absolutely extraordinary Meghan hasn’t been to see him since his surgery seven weeks ago, particularly as he is now having fresh health issues.
I think it’s ridiculous she’s never introduced him to Harry.
And I think it’s bizarre that Thomas has had ZERO contact with Prince Charles, the man who walked his daughter down the aisle.
Meghan Markle is now a very privileged woman who has married into unimaginable wealth.
She prides herself on her charity work, yet seems to have forgotten that old truism: charity begins at home.
It’s time she took off her diamond-studded tiara for a moment and remembered who she is and how she got here.
And Prince Harry should step up too; this is a man who constantly urges us all to take care of loved ones with mental health issues, yet where is now when his own father-in-law is in such dire emotional straits?
If he or the Palace is actively encouraging all or any of this ‘distancing', then Meghan should tell them very firmly her father comes first.
Thomas Markle didn’t ask for any of this, and he doesn’t deserve to be spurned by his daughter in this manner.
Meghan, I urge you to do the right thing and prove you really ARE a humanitarian by helping your dad in his hour of need – before it’s too late.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5921905/PIERS-MORGAN-youre-truly-humanitarian-Meghan-damn-heart-father.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 05, 2018, 06:06:43 pm
^Very rarely do I agree with Piers but we're on the same page with this one.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 05, 2018, 08:38:23 pm
Piers has been saying some intelligent stuff lately.
Murky is only a "humanitarian" when it pays for her own image and furthers her own agenda, beyond that she doesn't give a shyt.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 05, 2018, 09:59:31 pm
IF Piers had a father that went blabbing to the media about him I think he'd change his tune.  Tom Sr. is out for the almighty dollar and has gotten $$$$ out of this.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 06, 2018, 03:27:33 pm
Gap will not be bridged between Meghan and Thomas Markle,' says royal biographer Andrew Morton

Watch the full interview with royal biographer Andrew Morton, on episode three of Yahoo UK’s brand new show ‘The Royal Box’ from Friday 6 July.

The Duchess of Sussex‘s relationship with her father is beyond repair, says royal biographer Andrew Morton.

Speaking to Yahoo UK during episode three of ‘The Royal Box,’ Morton says there is “gap that will not be bridged” between 73-year-old Thomas Markle and Meghan thanks to “his behaviour.”

Morton – who penned royal biographies ‘Diana: Her True Story’ and ‘Meghan: A Hollywood Princess’ – refers to the faked paparazzi shots Thomas was paid for in the lead up to the royal wedding.

“Talk about [a] loose cannon,” says Morton. “He makes a lot of wrong decisions, and he made a big wrong decision shortly before the wedding



Markle reportedly underwent heart surgery just days before the wedding, causing him to pull out. But Morton suggests there was no intention of him attending the nuptials at all.

“Speaking to various friends of the Markle family, there didn’t appear to be anything in place to bring him over to England for the wedding, as though there’d been an agreement that he wasn’t going to go,” the biographer says.

“I find it extraordinary that here we have Thomas Markle Senior having a heart procedure and his daughter not going to see him.”


Morton says there’s a “distance” between the pair now.

“There’s a gap that will not be bridged. You saw the way Doria behaved [at the royal wedding],” he says. “Very dignified, tear in her eye as she watched her glorious daughter walk down the aisle.”


By all accounts, the Duchess had a good relationship with her father when growing up – despite her parents divorcing when she was six.

While Meghan studied drama at Immaculate Heart girls’ school, Thomas Markle would often volunteer to help with the lighting for school plays and the aspiring actress spent time on her father’s sets after classes.

But something in their relationship must have shifted as an 18-year-old Megan confessed in a home video that she and her father weren’t on “the best of terms.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gap-will-not-bridged-meghan-thomas-markle-says-royal-biographer-andrew-morton-125131298.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 06, 2018, 05:38:04 pm
^Interesting how all of this confirmation is coming out now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 06, 2018, 05:55:16 pm
IF Piers had a father that went blabbing to the media about him I think he'd change his tune.  Tom Sr. is out for the almighty dollar and has gotten $$$$ out of this.
if she hadnt cut him from her life will be him talking to media? carole is a nicer woman than meghan can dream to be


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 06, 2018, 06:52:39 pm
Just in from Sussex soap opera!
After the wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, mother of the bride Doria Ragland discreetly disappeared back into her life.
Since then, her lips have been sealed. From her there has not been a peep, a gaffe, a clanger or even careless whisper.
Doria is a class act, who doesn't want to do anything to harm Meghan and her new royal life. Unfortunately, no one could say the same about Thomas Markle.
After his embarrassing TV interview, he is now reported to have told friends he is fretting about his future as a father.
He believes he will never see Meghan again. 'I think that relationship is lost now,' he said.
The 73-year-old fears the couple have dumped him, and revealed he has not spoken to either Meghan or Harry 'for a long while'.
He also complained about the upcoming UK visit of Donald Trump, saying that if 'the Queen is willing to meet our arrogant, ignorant, and insensitive President she has no excuse not to meet me, I'm nowhere near as bad'. Could he be any more embarrassing?
In some ways, one can see why the Sussexes have pulled up the drawbridge. His breaches of protocol, his wedding no-show, his financial arrangements with Press and TV shows. None of this is good.
Yet Mr Markle does not seem motivated by malice or greed. He just seems a little lost. I still don't understand why Harry has yet to meet his father-in-law, nor why Meghan did not visit him after his heart surgery — surely the least a dutiful daughter could do?
Unless they start looking after him things are only going to get worse.  :cookie: - how, by giving him money?
And what happens if they start a family? Are they going to deny him access to his grandchildren?
Harry and Meghan should put aside their great humanitarian projects and their hopes to save the world together for a moment — and go to the aid of this distressed, ill old man instead.  :bored: - He's e dad and she's clearly shown that she's finished with him years ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5923177/JAN-MOIR-despair-fellow-Scots-long-England-lose.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 06, 2018, 09:10:57 pm
^^^^ Yes! Finally! That's exactly it!

"Markle reportedly underwent heart surgery just days before the wedding, causing him to pull out. But Morton suggests there was no intention of him attending the nuptials at all.

“Speaking to various friends of the Markle family, there didn’t appear to be anything in place to bring him over to England for the wedding, as though there’d been an agreement that he wasn’t going to go,” the biographer says.

“I find it extraordinary that here we have Thomas Markle Senior having a heart procedure and his daughter not going to see him.”"

And now she's using his pap walks against him. She's dropped her father I believe when she met Haz, and is now using anything to publicly justify dropping him.

I do feel sorry for Thomas, he seems to me like a man desperate to be in his daughter's life, who's likely totally broke, if he weren't he'd live in a better place in Mexico and not the bad part of town.

Murky is calculated and coldhearted.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 06, 2018, 11:24:14 pm
LORRAINE KELLY Make up with your Dad Thomas Markle now Meghan before it’s too late — and you’ll stay in our hearts
LORRAINE KELLY Make up with your Dad Thomas Markle now Meghan before it’s too late — and you’ll stay in our hearts
I’m glad that the press isn’t letting this go.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 07, 2018, 01:03:47 am
^^^^ Yes! Finally! That's exactly it!

"Markle reportedly underwent heart surgery just days before the wedding, causing him to pull out. But Morton suggests there was no intention of him attending the nuptials at all.

“Speaking to various friends of the Markle family, there didn’t appear to be anything in place to bring him over to England for the wedding, as though there’d been an agreement that he wasn’t going to go,” the biographer says.

“I find it extraordinary that here we have Thomas Markle Senior having a heart procedure and his daughter not going to see him.”"

And now she's using his pap walks against him. She's dropped her father I believe when she met Haz, and is now using anything to publicly justify dropping him.

I do feel sorry for Thomas, he seems to me like a man desperate to be in his daughter's life, who's likely totally broke, if he weren't he'd live in a better place in Mexico and not the bad part of town.

Murky is calculated and coldhearted.

Tom did not have open heart surgery or anything "serious" he had a procedure where a stent was placed in to correct blockage. He had a very short stay in the hospital and was out in a day or two.

Meghan never made any public statements about "dropping her father." This is all press speculation.

I don't feel sorry for Tom he should have not blabbed to the media about his daughter. the two could have privately tried to work things out.

He is not totally broke now. HE is paid by the media to make comments. He sold his daughter out.

I did find some hypocrisy in the DM comments where there was a desperation to "stop the wedding" because some thought she was not "worthy" of Harry. I doubt some of these commentators cared two cents about Tom but just wanted to stop the wedding. This was a theme song in the threads that Harry would as they put it "come to his senses" and marry Cressida or Chelsy or sometimes even Pippa was mentioned. I found that the saddest thing of all.

Meghan is not a saint but then again neither is her father who to me is a big opportunist. ANd if he wanted to get better he needs to go on a diet and avoid foods that could clog his arteries. He seems stubborn and I doubt even a visit by Meghan would have made him change his habits.

If he's Desperate to be in his daughter's life he has a very strange way of showing it, selling out to the media.

He was not in danger of dying nor ever on his "death bed"

It will be "too late" if he continues to eat greasy food and not lose weight.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 07, 2018, 02:14:07 am
Smirky Turkey didn't have to issue any statements about dropping her father.  Her silence and non- action prove it to me. She is the biggest opportunist of the bunch.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 07, 2018, 07:03:10 am
^^Major procedure or minor procedure, there is absolutely no way to justify her not carrying her narrow tail to see about her father! She's got the resources and the time. If she could find a way to manage a filming schedule and 12-hour flights every two weeks or so to see Harry while they were dating, she can find a way to go see about the only father she'll ever have.

It absolutely amazes me how some people will twist themselves into pretzels in an effort to justify the BS this woman puts out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 07, 2018, 07:45:21 am
She was gushing about him in June 2016 for the Tig for here image and now that lie's coe back to haunt her. It's a perfect set up because she looks like a hypercrite and a liar as she touts herself a humanitarian and a leader whilst she's not sorting out her family issues that's playing out in the press because she's part  of the royal family. It's not Harry or the royal family's place to deal with her family. I really think she just wants to continue to ignore them and cozy up to the royals, but that's obviously not going to work. Harry twisting his ring during the last event looked like he just wanted to take it off and be done with the nonsense.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/fd356b619c1f425ef555a521413ea41d/tumblr_inline_pbgrxdxJE41vcvffw_500.jpg

LORRAINE KELLY Make up with your Dad Thomas Markle now Meghan before it’s too late — and you’ll stay in our hearts
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6715070/meghan-markle-make-up-dad-thomas-lorraine-kelly/
Forot to add the link before.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 07, 2018, 12:15:17 pm
^^Major procedure or minor procedure, there is absolutely no way to justify her not carrying her narrow tail to see about her father! She's got the resources and the time. If she could find a way to manage a filming schedule and 12-hour flights every two weeks or so to see Harry while they were dating, she can find a way to go see about the only father she'll ever have.

It absolutely amazes me how some people will twist themselves into pretzels in an effort to justify the BS this woman puts out.

I'm not twisting myself into a pretzel. I don't like the way her father goes to the media. I also think this could have been settled if he had not rushed to the media first. Meghan did not say a word against her father. Her visits to her family should be kept private.

I do think Sam and Tom Jr persuaded him to go to the media and he listened to them

I still think that the ones on the DM calling for her to visit her father days before the wedding wanted it called off. And even before the father got sick they were saying the wedding should be called off and Harry would "come to his senses." I still maintain those posters on DM could not care less about her father they did not want her to marry into the royal family because she was an "American divorcee."

I hope the father sits back and realizes that going to the media was the wrong thing to do.

RIght now he should listen to his doctors or he'll be getting more surgery and his condition will deteriorate.

The family dynamics are known only to them. There are two sides to everything and I don't see her father as any sort of person to be admired.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 07, 2018, 06:06:39 pm
^ Did you like it when she went ti VF for an interview and 'stories to tell'?

In interviews for Suits promos she said that she's tight with her father, there's IG with her mom and her dad's hands for thanksgiving (last year's or the year before), she 'cried on the rehearsal' because her father won't be walking her down the aisle, she begged him to come to UK to walk her down the aisle, she begged Harry to bring her dad to UK as a tourist.

.... Will she ever walk the walk or she'll just keep talking lies... It's a thetoric question. There's no positive spin on her not visiting her dad. The fact she keeps blurting excuses, like: oooh, he went to the media, is abhorrable.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 07, 2018, 06:14:44 pm
A heart problem is a heart problem, regardless of "severity". A blockage is serious enough and he's likely been put on anti-coagulants and absolutely banned from flying (certainly at the time), and besides the other point is that he was quite apparently never planned to attend, which is scandalous in itself. And why should Meg make an announcement that she's dropping her father? I mean everything (esp negative) about the Midds is taken as gospel, but when it's about Meghan then "there no statement or proof". Meghan has shown her real face just as much as the Midds (incl Kate) have over the years. All of them, the Winds incl, we can read like an open book. An announcement that M is dropping her dad would be the worst kind of PR imaginable, for anyone in the public eye. Such a statement is never going to happen.

How much money was he really paid though? The named sums flucutuate quite a lot (except the pap walks if I'm not mistaken), and M has a history of dropping people, maybe her dad is desperate and just doesn't know what else to do, esp if financial difficulties were an added issue.
With "just" a stent thingy he may not have been close to death, but a flight would certainly put him in that place.

Yeah, being "worthy of Harry", I think the bigger issue is that in reality people want someone who is worthy of having millions worth of taxpayer's money spent on them, living in the highest luxury, wishing for someone decent who's unassuming, benevolent and will do good things in their role and be professional, in order to justify the ridiculousness of the titles & privilege. I believe that is what it boils down to, because Harry isn't all that, and not that "worthy".

^^^ Proof that she dropped (embarrassing to her) daddy dearest after meeting Haz. smh.

PS
^ Exactly, such a hypocrite. Dropping her dad but putting out gushing lies, obvs her dad is confused that she suddenly won't take his calls. Still surprised that even her saintly mother wasn't in England for at least 2 weeks.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 07, 2018, 06:29:56 pm
The Midds had stories backed by evidence like transcripts of Gary's remarks. ANd there is evidence for stories about the Markles.

If the blockage is so serious, then why did TOm just gobble down Kentucky Fried chicken filled with grease, and there are pictures to prove it. it is serious and could get worse so did Tom just brush off the medical reports and is maybe not taking medicine he needs?

During that last week before the wedding, Tom was waffling on going or not going. It all came from him.

She never said she dropped her father. Her father is doing all the blabbing. It all depends how people feel about Meghan and always believed she was the "bad one."
 Some of the choices for Harry made by his fans was a blonde, blue eyed Upper Class  and/or Upper Class/Aristo type. I think Cressida would be a disaster even though she checks off the boxes. Chelsy was good but some seemed to intensely dislike her on discussion boards. Now, she is seen as practically a saint.

Yes, Harry is not all that.

Meghan never spoke publicly about her father. I think Tom Sr. got under the influence of mercenary Sam and Tom Jr. Just my impression.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 07, 2018, 08:32:17 pm
Tom could have been laying on the operating table with a two piece and a biscuit in his hand and it still wouldn't justify his trifling daughter's behavior toward him. Tom ignoring doctor's advice to follow a heart-healthy diet (he would not be the first to do this) does not justify her not going to see about him. A statement on KP stationary shouldn't be needed when the proof is in the behavior. Actions speak louder than words and her disregard for her father started long before he ever went to the press.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 07, 2018, 08:42:10 pm
It all depends how people feel about Meghan and always believed she was the "bad one."
and there are people who believes she walks on water because harry likes her - that poor little who makes mistakes because william is too bad and protected, the fact harry is stupid in his own right, never mind...

btw it was pretty clear that meghan didnt want her father at her wedding, destiny helped her but with lots of bad PR involved


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 07, 2018, 09:39:43 pm
I said she was not a saint. But at the same time neither is dear old dad IMO. Dianab, WIlliam was protected more than Harry was. Don't you remember how no cameras were allowed in St. Andrew's and how Dad had to apologize for him and his commander took the blame for Will taking a military copter to a stag party. At least Harry apologized publicly which is nothing to sneeze at.

I don't know the Markle family and I can't say it is "pretty clear" anything. He said he was going a few days before the wedding. He waffled.

And how can Meghan force him to follow his doctor's advice?

It was pretty clear that some wanted the wedding stopped so complained about Meghan not canceling the wedding to see her father.

Dianab, Nobody but Nobody said she walks on water. But I see the Dad is now being cast as the victim. That's the part I don't understand.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 08, 2018, 12:11:31 am
If Harry was invovled in stories like the ones that William did, his image wouldnt have been so bad... harry has (at least used have) a over the top relationsip with alcohol and is wildly impulsive (re:if william was idiot enough to get naked with bunch of strangers closely photographing him with their phones, the palace never would have can protect him, fighting with fellow polo players etc).

Her father must be a very inoffensive man next to his wild son-in-law and cunning social climber daughter.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 08, 2018, 01:42:26 pm
I don't think TOm is an inoffensive man. I thought he was OK just eccentric and living off the grid.  But once he started running to the media I have felt very negative about him. His daughter did not "make him" behave that way. It is the way Tom is and it is unfortunate he can't show the maturity to avoid running to the media for $$$. I also think he neglects his health and did not seem to be "scared" about the stent procedure which would bring sensible people to have a change in lifestyle ASAP and a better diet.

As far as Will and Harry, both pub crawled and both looked worse for wear. WIll was not Mr Clean. But you are right Harry doing the Vegas strip tease was incredibly clueless.

At one point or another, Every woman has been called a Social Climber who marries into that family. One of the Wisteria sisters come to mind.

Harry like Will should settle down once he has a family. I don't think he's a "wild man".

Meghan could be cunning all she wants to but if Harry did not fall in love with her she'd be just another mark on his bedpost.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on July 08, 2018, 03:55:41 pm
The apple never falls far from the tree - the Markles, any of them, are not beyond using anything or anybody to serve their means. They had to go after Harry, because quite frankly, he's too stupid to see how he is being used.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 08, 2018, 05:25:55 pm
^Spot on! She learned all of her ways from someone, be it one parent or both.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: india on July 08, 2018, 05:40:46 pm
Diana sure did produce a pair of stupid easy marks.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 08, 2018, 06:12:54 pm
^Nobody ever gave Harry the gift of knowing the value of money, honest work or a complete commitment to handle his privilege wisely or humbly.  Add in being stupid, you’ve got an easy mark for bad life choices.  All I’ve seen is a constant disdain and resentment that displays itself in acts of petulance or rebellion.

And somewhere in there, is an appalling lack of servitude mindset to the taxpayer that is, frankly, unforgivable.  If they knew that they could be voted out regularly you wouldn’t see this grand expectation without consequences of actions.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on July 08, 2018, 07:34:28 pm
^^^^ I agree Snowpea.  They're more alike than not.  Regarding MM and her father though,  it seems to me that Meghan has far more to lose than her father does.  From that perspective, regardless of her feelings toward her father right now,  she needs, I think, to nip this in the bud before it goes on any longer.  As a member of the BRF she needs to have a better public image than this.  It must be maddening to her for her father to continue going to the press to air his emotions.  However, that is why she needs to talk to him and try to come to an understanding.  It seems unlikely that they will ever be close again, but she can try to peacefully coexist with him and the Markle family.  Certainly whatever she's been doing (or not doing) isn't working very well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 08, 2018, 10:31:42 pm
Samantha Markle attacks half-sister Meghan AGAIN on Twitter

Samantha Markle continued her Twitter attack against her half-sister Meghan this weekend and this time took aim at Prince Harry too.

Rebranding her the 'Duchess of Nonsense', Samantha said it was Meghan and not their father Thomas who had been behaving badly.

In astonishing impropriety, she then accused Prince Harry of bowing down to his new wife and labeled him a 'wuss'.

'Harry is a wuss to allow the Duchess of Nonsense to mistreat everyone who has been close to her, especially her family.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5931405/Samantha-Markle-attacks-half-sister-Meghan-Twitter.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 08, 2018, 11:45:24 pm
LOL. Well there go her chances to go to future Christenings. She shoots herself in the foot.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: LadyLaura on July 09, 2018, 01:01:58 am
this gets better and better  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 09, 2018, 02:31:33 am
^^She wouldn't have been on the guest list either way.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 09, 2018, 02:41:13 am
^ IKR Sam was never going get an invite.they only person that will be there is Doria


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 09, 2018, 04:15:53 am
^Meg's argument for cutting everyone off would have more legs IF she were just cutting off the ones that can't keep their mouths shut. The fact that she didn't invite anybody but her mom says it all. While I don't agree with Sam et al going to the press, I think it's a manifestation of being hurt and angry. If Meghan had acknowledged them in the least, even privately, I don't think we would be witnessing this circus.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 09, 2018, 04:36:00 am
^That’s the point, really.  She cut everybody out whether they were talking publicly or not.  Doria’s presence was odd, too, and came off weird being the only family member there and rushed in/out. Bizarre.  Brutal relationships from all angles.

It’s not a christening that’s the big deal, really, because she’s not going to have any of her own people spending time with any child they bring into this hilarious mess of a marriage..  Just wait until a family member of hers dies, tho.  That’ll be a kerfuffle. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 09, 2018, 06:10:33 am
I like it that the family is talking to the press. Let's not forget that the whole Markles clan has been grasping for fame all their lives, including Meghan. Sam is pretty much saying what everyone is thinking about Meghan's behavior and her 'wuss' / new puppet. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 09, 2018, 06:40:05 am
^Don't get me wrong. I'm enjoying every second of this tea party the Markle's are serving. Honestly, Sam isn't doing anything different than Meghan has and is doing, which is playing the press game. The only difference is Sam is speaking for herself while Meghan is using a PR team as her mouthpiece. All of them learned the game from someone and my money is on Tom.

^^If her father shuts his eyes before she's able to make it right with him, she will never bounce back from it. I don't wish anything bad on anyone but I have a strong feeling that something could happen to Tom. When it does, all hell will break loose.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 09, 2018, 11:30:50 am
I agree with you all. Also, not everything Sam says is unreasonable. Diana would be horrified at both her sons' lives & choices.
"Harry is a wuss to allow the Duchess of Nonsense to mistreat everyone who has been close to her, especially her family." is also an apt statement. Wouldn't call him a wuss per se, but definitely an idiot to not see the forest for the trees.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 02:07:17 pm
I have no admiration for Samantha. She is not reasonable as far as I'm concerned. Siblings can have battles but this one is trying to make money over it. She did not stop the wedding and I doubt will break up the marriage. I think she needs counseling, seriously. No matter how some don't like Meghan, it's no excuse as far as I'm concerned for that sort of behavior. I think Diana would have been horrified but I doubt she'd sympathize with Samantha. I think Samantha is just mean. If I were her relative I'd be very concerned for her acting out and perhaps an intervention could be done for her.

It's the pot calling the Kettle black for Samantha saying Meghan mistreats people. What do you think she's doing herself.

Samantha is in no position to be judgmental.

Ariel "everybody" does not dislike Meghan and think like Samantha.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 09, 2018, 03:31:31 pm
One does not have to admire Sam in order to see that she's telling the truth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 04:21:22 pm
Yes, the truth according to Samantha which involves a big possible payroll for her embarrassing behavior and confessions. IMO.

I cringe when I see her picture in the papers. She's so twisted IMO and full of *despise* for her sister. Such extreme loathing. No matter how much Meghan is disliked, she does not "deserve" or "ask" for her messed up sister to go to the papers. And yes I think Samantha needs an intervention but most likely will not get one.

Samantha is in no position to bash her half sister since she is far from being a 'saint' and can't cast stones.

Maybe Harry and Will are weak willed but they are not babies and decided of their own free wills to choose and marry Meghan and Kate, respectively.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 09, 2018, 04:50:18 pm
The nagging issue, tho, is that Sam knows Smirkles better than all of us, including Harry, put together. 

Her delivery may be indelicate but, again, she’s a citizen of the US and was raised on speaking up.  Also, she’s only saying everything I’ve heard from every avenue already.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 05:03:18 pm
She and Meghan did not spend much time together over the past few years. I don't think Samantha "knows" anything except how she can benefit monetarily by making statements to the press about how "bad" her half sister is and how she "despises" her. I think this is more harmful to Samantha because she seems to have an unhealthy obsession with trashing her sister to the media.

It is not "speaking up" it is just being obsessed and at the same time trying to cash in.

She is just in effect name calling her sister and her brother in law which is like schoolyard taunts. I totally disagree she is an authority on her sister, I think she's an authority on being obsessed, money grubbing and venomous. It is now shrill ranting.

Meghan's no saint but it does not mean her 1/2 sister is acting rationally.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 09, 2018, 06:04:09 pm
She speaks up because she has something to say. Sam is cashing in on her opinion, Tom is cashing in on his sympathy card, the bro is radio silent lately but his open letters were very interesting. By far - the Markles are much more interesting than Meghan would ever be. If they get offered a reality show - it will be a hit.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 06:36:07 pm
It has degenerated into schoolyard taunts and name calling. Samantha says just about the same thing every time. Sam is rather scary and isn't there anybody who can do an intervention. This hurts her more than Meghan, it is sheer obsession.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 09, 2018, 06:48:00 pm
^^That’ll happen.  There’s a radio show in LA that already has an hour call-in show called The Markles and it’s quite popular.  People are enjoying it anyway and get a kick out of the whole mess.  I don’t get the impression that it’s adding any dignity to MM and she gets lumped in with the whole nutfarm family.

Nothing against any laws so let it roll!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 06:50:34 pm
After a while it gets passe. Charlie Sheen was the subject of numerous shows with his rants. But the fifteen minutes of fame ended for him. Sam the Flavor of the Month IMO will be displaced by someone else and soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 09, 2018, 08:23:12 pm
I think that Sam has a few good years of air time until the 15 min of fame run out of its sparkle. Or maybe more. So long as Meghan is in the royal family there will be interest in what Sam and Tom and Tom Jr have to say.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 09, 2018, 08:26:15 pm
I think some get sick of her rants. It's all the same after a while. Maybe it's like watching a trainwreck for some though.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 10, 2018, 05:40:56 pm
Queen's two most senior PR chiefs to leave after Thomas Markle debacle sent Royal Family's media machine into an embarrassing tailspin
Sally Osman, the Director of Royal Communications, and Steve Kingstone, the Queen's Media Secretary, are leaving Buckingham Palace.
Ms Osman, a former director of communications for the BBC, rose to her role after taking charge of PR for the Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall in 2013.
Mr Kingstone, a former BBC journalist, became the Queen's Media Secretary in 2016. He will become Director of Communications at Oxfam
It is understood that Ms Osman won't be replaced and a new position, Communications Secretary for the Queen, will include both roles in a possible cost-cutting move.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5938577/Queens-two-senior-PR-chiefs-leave-Palace.html
So it wasn’t the fact that Harry involved himself with a strumpet/minx who’s made her living basically selling her body in her career as a z lost actress and escort, but it’s her dad’s, harmless in comparison, faux pas that has the palace in a tailspin.  :tehe:
Notice how there’s cost-cutting measureless here but we’re to believe that Meghan’s extravagant cost for her wardrobe is fine and dandy with the royals.
The position needs to be filled with a social media savy person and not someone who only deals with the print press.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 10, 2018, 06:13:31 pm
@ Ariel I think that Sam has a few good years of air time until the 15 min of fame run out of its sparkle. Or maybe more. So long as Meghan is in the royal family there will be interest in what Sam and Tom and Tom Jr have to say

I agree, there will be no holding back with that family, they don´t want 15 minutes of fame, they want years of it, and have already shown just how far they are willing to go.  They also want to make money out of it for themselves.  Their greed for money will keep them going, they will bleed the whole situation dry until, hopefully, dork haza sees the light and gets rid of her out of the rf. That family are going nowhere whilst they can make money out of it, and plenty of money they will be looking for, cashing in on the situation.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 10, 2018, 06:58:32 pm
Wanting is not Getting. Some people just plain wear out their welcome. IMO.  Why would Harry "get rid of her" if the Sam and Company are the ones running to the media for money? If he did that I think he's certifiable with a bad case of misplaced anger. She'd be well rid of him if he had that attitude IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 15, 2018, 01:35:58 am
TALK TO ME, MEGHAN Thomas Markle says he may die soon and fears Meg and Harry shunning him
Does Meg want to leave it like this, asks dad Thomas Markle in desperate plea for Meghan to speak to him after two months of silent treatment

THOMAS Markle is making an extraordinary public plea for his daughter to contact him — because he fears he may not have long to live.

Thomas, 74 next month, believes he has been shunned for almost two months for staging paparazzi snaps and speaking publicly about Meghan.
He told The Sun on Sunday: “I had a heart attack, doesn’t anybody care? I could actually die soon.

Does she want this to be the last thing we’ve said to each other?”

He went on: “It is probably the longest time I have gone without speaking to her ever.

"I just want to clear the air and tell her how proud I am of her.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6781234/thomas-markle-says-he-may-die-soon-and-fears-meg-and-harry-shunning-him/



MEG'S 'SMILE OF PAIN' Thomas Markle believes being in the Royal Family is piling pressure on his daughter and that she looks terrified of her new life
MEGHAN Markle is masking the stresses of royal life with a smile of pain, her worried father has told The Sun on Sunday.

Thomas Markle sat down to talk of how he believes being a royal is piling pressure on his daughter — and branded them “outdated”.

He fears Meghan, 36, is struggling to cope with the switch from bubbly TV actress to “prim” public duties as the Duchess of Sussex.

Thomas, 73, said: “My thing about my daughter right now is that I think she is terrified.

“I see it in her eyes, I see it in her face and I see it in her smile.

“I’ve seen her smile for years. I know her smile. I don’t like the one I’m seeing now.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6781106/thomas-markle-believes-meghan-markle-terrified-of-new-life/




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on July 15, 2018, 04:49:22 am
He really is full of it!  :P


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 15, 2018, 02:41:46 pm
10th July  -  Queen's two most senior PR chiefs to leave after Thomas Markle debacle sent Royal Family's media machine into an embarrassing tailspin  Daily Mail article.

Wonder what kind of a tailspin they are in now after the later murkle senior spout off  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

If HM seriously thinks that the murkles will back off she is in cloud la la land.  The murkles are in the US, and they will not toe the line, and why should they.  Unfortunately for the rf they are unable to control the murkles and what they say to the  press. Tough luck, they let his daughter marry into the family, let them get on with it. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 15, 2018, 03:17:43 pm
^^^Second article you have there, Fly, is front page and a scrolling headline everywhere this morning.  In the States anyway.  "Megan's Smile of Pain!", "Dying Father's Concern".    8)

As long as this gets this level of coverage there will be more.  Much more.  I wonder whose book will drop first of the Markle Clan?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 15, 2018, 07:52:15 pm
The rf must be livid. They went through with an expensive for-show wedding so that they can shut Meghan up. They made Dorito sign an NDA so that she doesn't talk and now MM has signed her father as a mouthpiece and exit strategy to drive the rf through the mud. Whoever is financing this PR war must have very, very deep pockets - one day the DM posts damning but true articles about her, the very next day: daddy speaks up. Coincidence? I think not. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 15, 2018, 10:24:28 pm
^exactly. It seems when Meghan gets criticized as she was for the Ireland trip and her merchandising at Wimbledon, that the family comes out to try and get her sympathy. The obvious question that people should be asking is how she hasn’t gone to see her dad. Him playing games with the media isn’t an offense to warrant her not talking to him to get him to stop doing it.
Thomas Markle begs daughter Meghan to get in touch with him saying 'I could die soon' as he reveals they last spoke just after the wedding
He said this was the longest he has gone without speaking to Meghan and that staff at Kensington Palace had not been responding to his texts.
The last contact he had with his daughter was just after her wedding in May, when he wished her a happy honeymoon over the phone.
He says he told her 'Daddy, he's a prince' when she began dating Prince Harry in 2016.
But he said Meghan 'married the business' and this can ruin relationships.
She lived with him in Hollywood from the age of 11 until she graduated from high school.
'I am her father...I deserve some respect,' he said, adding defiantly: 'Being shunned for the rest of my life? That's not going to happen.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5955831/Thomas-Markle-begs-daughter-Meghan-touch-him.html
I think that she’s in cahoots with her dad because it makes no sense this constant running to the press to air his grievances. He and Meghan expects the royal family to pay him something to shut him up. Now, he’s allegedly saying that the royal family put Doria in the family section of the wedding amongst celebrities. They’re setting up the narrative that the royal family’s cruel and heartless which is dumb given that the family’s given her opportunities that even Waity didn’t get.
Her mouthpiece, Mio, talking nonsense. She’s not a child.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/image/175926613913
Up next, Doria to remind people that Meghan’s black and that’s why the media’s criticizing her.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 15, 2018, 11:30:57 pm
^^^Second article you have there, Fly, is front page and a scrolling headline everywhere this morning.  In the States anyway.  "Megan's Smile of Pain!", "Dying Father's Concern".    8)

As long as this gets this level of coverage there will be more.  Much more.  I wonder whose book will drop first of the Markle Clan?

Her father is not "dying." If he wants to communicate with his daughter he does not have to go to the media and get $$$. THe man if he does not want to die needs to stop eating unhealthy foods that clog the arteries. I lost all sympathy for tom since he goes running to the media. Enough already.

Doria will not go to the media and likes her privacy. Good for her. It is not racial, it is dysfunction.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on July 16, 2018, 03:07:39 am
Interesting question is why do they seem to want to destroy the monarchy? They will gain nothing from its demise.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 16, 2018, 05:11:45 am
^ I think that they just want the money. brf is of no real interest to them.
^^Read the article. His daughter doesn't communicate with him. If she "wasn't allowed" to communicate with her mom too, then it will be the cold brf's fault but Dorito hasn't complained about it so it seems that Meghan is shunning her own father, except for when she needs him to pull a sympathy card. I think that now is the time to send more damning articles in. Tom played his card and he has only one so far.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 16, 2018, 08:01:58 am
And so the fun continues
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5957267/Thomas-Markle-says-considering-trip-UK-repair-relations-daughter-Meghan.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 16, 2018, 12:50:39 pm
^ IMO if Duchess So-sexy is terrified like her father claims she is or shows fear in her eyes it's because the grifter has been caught out or is terrified of being caught out in her scams for $$$ and social status and being sent up the clank. I say Ms Crotchbridge  and Ms So-Sexy have the same backers and they know their house of cards can come tumbling down any minute. As far as dressing like they're in the 1930s as Mr Markle says well if he and/or So-Sexy don't like it they should have stayed away from the BRF in the first place and yes they can leave just walk away and leave the British royal family alone then Mr Markles' little idiot can dress anyway she wants to dress.  I doubt any of the Windsors would chase after her if she left. Just go. Go. This b s is downright offensive.  :bat:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 16, 2018, 02:24:06 pm
Tom is the grifter here. He needs to 1) stop eating greasy food and stop whingeing about "dying"--it's up to him to get healthy after the procedure; 2) stop whining to the media and privately work towards meeting with his daughter. I guess all this attention has gone to his head.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 16, 2018, 06:11:35 pm
^ My father is the same as Tom as regards bad foods (although in science, if we all stopped eating fatty foods our bodies would make cholesterol), but it's my Dad's choice to eat that stuff.  BUT, there's no way I allow my Dad to come chasing me.  bignono bignono bignono bignono I love my Father. I go to see him and it's a darn sight further than Murky has to travel.   :bye:



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 16, 2018, 06:23:23 pm
Whatever is going on is known only to them. There are two sides to the story but Tom is addressing the media not his daughter. Thankfully I think the fathers of posters on this site do not rush to the media to complain. A true blessing for all concerned IMO.

I think if the doctor's warnings are stern enough, the patients do (some patients that is) cooperate but there are people who smoke and don't quit even though they have shortness of breath and other danger signs.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 16, 2018, 06:30:20 pm
MONEY MONEY MONEY
Meghan Markle’s Dad Seeks to Shame Her

Thomas Markle, Meghan’s dad, has said he might come to England and hole up in a hotel room in an attempt to see his daughter, who, he claims, has blanked him following her wedding to Prince Harry.
The new threat is contained in a piece in today’s Sun, the sister paper of the Sun on Sunday, which yesterday ran an extensive interview with Mr. Markle in which he launched a bitter attack on the palace, said his daughter’s vivacious spirit was being crushed by royal life and accused the palace of not returning his calls.
Now, in remarks that appear to have been held back from the main interview, he is threatening to come to the U.K.
He told the Sun: “If I chose in a month, or couple of months, to go to England—I want to see my daughter. I’m thinking about it.
“I don’t care whether she is pissed off at me or not.
“I’m not going to wave flags and make a fool of my­self. I’d find a hotel room and try to reach them.”
While Thomas Markle rocking up at Heathrow Airport is not particularly probable (although many media organizations would likely be willing to foot the air ticket and hotel bills) and would certainly not result in a meeting with Meghan, this new intervention by her dad shows that Kensington Palace has done the right thing in cutting him loose.
Despite Mr. Markle’s constant claims that he is not selling out his daughter, it seems entirely within the bounds of possibility that he was paid by the Sun for this sitdown, much as he was by Good Morning Britain and as he was by the paparazzi photographer with whom he worked to stage fake candid pictures. TMZ has said it did not pay Markle for his interviews.
Mr. Markle’s now-well-established habit of talking to the press at the drop of a hat means that it would be completely irresponsible for Meghan or Harry to agree to meet Markle, as it would keep interest in the story alive and give him new material to sell.
The British press has shown its willingness to shame and embarrass Meghan at every opportunity, and it is tragic that her father now appears to be enabling them to do so by denouncing her as heartless in return for money.
Increasingly, one would have to argue that rather than blowing an opportunity to bring him fully on board ahead of the wedding, his non-appearance at Windsor Castle back in May might have been Meghan and Harry’s luckiest escape.
The only way this situation could really be worse would be if Thomas Markle had lots and lots of juicy insights and information to sell to the highest bidder, such as details of interactions with the queen, how Prince Charles was behaving before the wedding or what he saw Meghan say to Kate Middleton over tea.
What is also becoming clear is that Markle, an award-winning Hollywood lighting director, is clearly not quite the delicate media naif he likes to portray himself as in these interviews.
For instance, his main theme appears to be how unfair it is he has been shunned, but then he also admits that Harry and Meghan did call him after the wedding.
“I spoke to Meghan and Harry briefly after the wedding. It was mostly me and Meghan. They were talking about coming to visit me. I spoke to them both and wished them a happy honeymoon. That was the last call.”
He says he is so very sorry that he worked with a photographer to stage, for profit, pictures of himself that massively embarrassed Meghan and Harry, that he knows what a terrible thing it was to do this, but then took several thousand dollars from a British TV show to do an interview in which he discussed their personal lives.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/now-meghan-markless-dad-seeks-to-shame-her-as-well
Didn’t he claim to have a long chat with both of them and now he’s saying that he spoke mostly with Meghan? So when did Harry allegedly say to give Brexit a chance? So how’s he going to get in touch with her if he claims that the contact details he had before doesn’t work? He’s basically saying that he’s going to continue to give interviews until he gets a payoff to go away (not happening) or he’ll give up.
I believe that he’s in cahoots with Meghan because he pops up in the press every time she gets rightly criticized in the press. Remember there were alleged talks at KP about how to rid themselves of him and a payoff was discussed but dismissed, but him and Meghan will continue this game until they get something out of it. Big mistake going this route.
This reporters a bit of a joke if he believes the media embarrasses Meghan at every chance. She’s a con artist grifter who does her own thing as she believes she knows best.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 16, 2018, 06:32:45 pm
^^I do agree the smoking needs to go, but at his age it's hard to change.  My Dad's 85 now and isn't a smoker, but he says 'yes yes yes' to his stern doctors and does his own thing with foods and Doc Google  :shy:.  No, most posters Dad's wouldn't go to the media, thankfully, and why?  I doubt they'd have a desperate need.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on July 16, 2018, 06:37:41 pm
I am a health care professional and work with mostly cancer patients. It never ceases to amaze me when people refuse to stop smoking and/or drinking even in the face of a life threatening cancer diagnosis. Data show that smoking and/or alcohol cessation improves outcomes even in people with more advanced stages of cancer, yet, people continue. They are addicted and addictions (be that smoking, drinking, eating, etc) are really difficult to overcome. Across the board, people from all walks of life, even for those with a strong resolve and desire to quit, addiction is mentally, physically and emotionally challenging. This is only compounded if the person has underlying mental health challenges.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 16, 2018, 06:51:16 pm
The entire frickin’ family is clinical in my book.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 16, 2018, 08:13:58 pm
Tom is the grifter here. He needs to 1) stop eating greasy food and stop whingeing about "dying"--it's up to him to get healthy after the procedure; 2) stop whining to the media and privately work towards meeting with his daughter. I guess all this attention has gone to his head.

If the father is a bad apple this is still not a good enough excuse for the daughter to shun him. He tries to contact her - she does not respond ... Take a guess if he was really invited to the wedding or of his daughter cares about him.

After a certain age people don't change, especially their habits. That does not relieve their children from the duty of caring or helping. The very least Meghan can do is talk to him. (Which I think she does via her PR company that tries to stir the pot)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 16, 2018, 08:20:27 pm
I think $$$ played a role. He did not go to the media for nothing, he got $$$$ for his efforts. Meghan would not go to the media and respond to him. The royals would IMO not allow it, a public media war brewing between Meghan and Tom, it could get ugly. He claimed he was invited, got fitted for that suit and told all and sundry he looked forward to walking Meghan down the aisle. There were no denials by Palace sources that he was invited so I am assuming he was. If the man refuses any help, there is only so much that can be done. He is not a child or declared incompetent so he can do what he wants when he wants. It would be different if he had been declared incompetent. The family would indeed have an obligation to see that he gets the best care. I don't know if Meghan talked to him or not. I am assuming there was a conversation pre wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 16, 2018, 08:34:38 pm
Meghan Markle’s Dad Is Really Bumming Me Out These Days
Here are some things Thomas Markle, Duchess Meghan’s father, has said in a series of “exclusive” interviews with British tabloid The Sun:
“Anyone who makes a profit off the Royal Family becomes shunned. But I could have made well over $100,000 by just doing a talk show. So if I moved to London and started selling cups with my daughter’s face on, would they shun me?”
“The Royal Family is living by rules that are outdated.”
“The phone number I call... it doesn’t work anymore. There’s no address I can write to... I have no way of contacting [her].”
Enough. This is all too much. I don’t want to tell someone how to live their life/deal with their parents, but Meghan please accept one call because this is really bumming me out.
[The Sun / The Sun]
https://jezebel.com/meghan-markle-s-dad-is-really-bumming-me-out-these-days-1827623578

Meghan Markle’s Dad Thomas Says She Looks ‘Terrified’ And In Pain With Royal Life
The loose cannon dad revealed that his strong daughter is “very controlling” and “likes to be in charge” so being with The Palace is sure to be difficult.
The outraged former Hollywood TV lighting technician stated that he’s been unable to reach Meghan and Harry, and a staff member at Kensington Palace will not answer his texts!
Thomas said the last time he spoke to Meghan was in a brief phone call after her wedding.
“That was the last call. The phone number I had been calling Meghan on is no longer picking up and I don’t have an address for her.”
He sighed, “Being shunned for the rest of my life? That’s not going to ­happen.”


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 16, 2018, 08:48:48 pm
Timed out.
Link to the 2nd article.
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/07/meghan-markles-dad-thomas-says-she-looks-in-pain-with-royal-life/
People are getting fed up with her and her family drama.
Her dad did reiterate that she’s controlling and likes to be in charge.
I still say that Doria will make her appearance soon especially since Harry is going to the Nelson Mandela exhibit tomorrow. Meghan will sure to pour on the racism card as she pretends to know what the people of apartheid went through.  bignono :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 16, 2018, 08:49:47 pm
Maybe if he lights a beige colored candle for nine days, St. Meghan will appear.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 16, 2018, 09:02:12 pm
If the media called a time out and ignored Tom maybe the family would be inspired to work this out without the media being involved. This has nothing to do with race as I said, just good old fashioned dysfunction that the media seems to be encouraging by letting Tom go out trashing his daughter. I think it's something to do with getting the "money" story of Meghan responding to garner more readership in DM and other newspapers.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 16, 2018, 09:03:59 pm
Except the media won't. Their job is to garner clicks and sell newspapers/magazines.  To hell with her family dynamics.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 16, 2018, 09:07:08 pm
And there is someone somewhere sitting in an newspaper office or at his or her computer, hoping to get the Exclusive  "story of the year" Meghan's possible rebuttal to her father.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 16, 2018, 09:14:01 pm
^^^^ lmao and said "Murky Murky Murky" into a mirror very quickly :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 16, 2018, 11:44:25 pm
Samantha signed up to do Big Brother and reached out to Wendy Williams.
http://www.wendyshow.com/2018/07/16/meghan-markle-dad-sun-interview/#.W00e9RYpCEd
All hustlers and con artist grabbing the money.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 16, 2018, 11:53:30 pm
Wendy had PLENTY to say about Smirkles before. No Markle or Markle by-product will ever make it on her show.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 17, 2018, 12:02:43 am
Has this been discussed on the View yet?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 17, 2018, 12:19:45 am
^That show is still on?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 17, 2018, 12:36:47 am
Yes. Although another show (cooking show with guest stars) The Chew got canceled.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 17, 2018, 12:50:02 am
If she actually took the time to address her father or anyone else in private they wouldn't feel the need to continue talking to the press. Thomas won't shut up because this is his only way of reaching out to her. Whatever money he's receiving is the cherry on top of it all. The press makes money off of clicks so I'm not going to sit here and fault them for reporting on something that they know is going to get clicks, help them make payroll at the end of the week, and keep the lights on. Rather than blame the press for the articles existing in the first place, blame the folks that click on them and make stuff like this relevant.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 17, 2018, 12:58:53 am
^I'll gladly take the blame.  I can't resist a trainwreck.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 17, 2018, 02:27:18 am
Is it true Tom Sr is commenting in Daily Fail comments section of (which exactly?) articles? Perhaps this is not the real Markle? Can someone post the comments? What did he say? I know Samantha called Harry a wuss and the brother publicly warned Harry against marrying Meghan because she's a hateful user. Wow. Just wow.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 17, 2018, 02:34:51 am
They are white trash what did you expect


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 17, 2018, 02:57:08 am
^^ I highly doubt it, there's no money involved. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 17, 2018, 03:13:34 am
^^^^If any of us could, we wouldn't have found a home on this forum.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 17, 2018, 03:26:09 am
Thomas Markle’s DM comments:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/175966444953/thomas-markle
I believe it’s him. He’s contributing to the saga continuing with the expectation that the royal family will pay him off to stop him from talking to the press and making a nuisance of himself. Putty the royal family could care less what he and the rest of the Markle’s do. The head of the snake is Meghan and hopefully she’ll be cut off and gone; deported back to the States with the hearty bill that she rang up with this scam.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 17, 2018, 05:18:09 am
I think it's him. He's building Meghan's pity card for her PR. For example, Meghan has cut off her own father right after "crying that he can't walk her down the aisle" and "begging him to leave hospital to come to her bidding" but he insists that the "royal family is weighing down on her". How does he know if she's shut him down? He's her new mouthpiece.. now that Mio leaked that she doesn't live with the husband she latches onto in public.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 17, 2018, 02:18:22 pm
He's his own mouthpiece. IMO. He wants his 15 minutes of fame so badly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 17, 2018, 05:37:06 pm
Daddy’s coming.  :cookie:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/image/175988150353
Umm, better question is will he be allowed into the U.K. given rumors that he is a tax dodger and other things.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 17, 2018, 05:39:18 pm
I wonder if he would expect crowds of reporters greeting him at the airport.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 17, 2018, 05:42:39 pm
Noooo. The reporters will not come to greet him. They will come because he has called in advance to let them know when he'll arrive for the money shot.

As long as he's a tourist and doesn't go through US on the way to UK ... the tax authorities are outside jurisdiction.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 17, 2018, 10:58:14 pm
'All they have to do is speak to me': Meghan Markle's defiant father Thomas says he won't stop talking to the media until he's a part of his daughter's life, a day before his 74th birthday
Meghan Markle's father is not going to stop speaking out about his daughter and the Royal Family - no matter how 'frustrated' they get.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5964159/All-speak-Meghan-Markles-father-says-wont-stop-talking-media.html
It’s her issue not Harry’s.  bignono


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 18, 2018, 12:10:52 am
as the saying goes he didn't lose a daughter he gained a son. Harry is "family" of Tom.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 18, 2018, 02:36:50 am
Says he's not going to stop talking until he hears from the royal family.  :cookie:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176002427518/thomas-markle-tells-royals-hes-not-going-to-stop
What should happen is that KP continues to ignore him and the longer he goes to the press, the public will turn on Megs because it's her dad and se's the one to sort him out, not a bunch of strangers in the royal family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 18, 2018, 03:17:31 am
The public doesn't seem too keen on Smirky Debacle from the looks of it. Is their wedding tat in the clearance bin?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 18, 2018, 12:16:06 pm
'The royals are an embarrassment for being so cold': Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha blasts her duchess sibling for 'ignoring their father', saying if he dies 'Meg is responsible'
Samantha Markle launched into her Twitter tirade on Tuesday night, hours after Thomas told TMZ he wouldn't stop talking to the media until his daughter accepted him back into her life.
The 53-year-old took aim at Meghan and Prince Harry's appearance at the Nelson Mandela centenary exhibition in London earlier that day, telling her: 'How about you pay tribute to your own father?! Enough is enough'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5965085/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-says-father-dies-Meg-responsible.html
This family’s trying to shake down the royal family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 18, 2018, 01:13:27 pm
Before Harry, Meghan always said as she was close to her dad and posted pics with him in her insta... this story dont looks on her


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 18, 2018, 05:39:49 pm
Now murky's leaking to the press to get her side out. Both as bad as each other.
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5934735/Thomas-Markle-xlaimed-heart-surgery-excuse-pull-Meghans-wedding-source-says.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 18, 2018, 06:18:15 pm
Meghan's obsessed with looking good in people's eyes. If course she'll defend herself.
 
It's interesting ho Samantha has been very vocal about what kind of person she thinks Meghan is: cutting people off and all that. Then, all of a sudden: it's brf's fault that MEghan is as bad an apple as the rest of the Markles.

^^^ I know, right. Then it turns out that this closeness was a PR lie since her dad had to send a message to his ex wife as a memo in a flower.

Tom, now Sam - both are part of MEghan's PR strategy to blame the RF for Murky's nastiness... Unfortunately, Harry brought the snake home. Now they have a problem.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 18, 2018, 07:32:44 pm
She'd look more dignified if she'd shut up; never complain, never explain springs to mind. Her father's not going to go away unless he gets a big fat payoff so she might as well get used to this mess


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 18, 2018, 08:40:04 pm
Bombshell Letter! Meghan’s Brother Begs Queen: Don’t Let My Sister Die Like Diana!
In a bombshell letter exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com, Meghan Markle Opens a New Window. ’s brother claims loved ones are terrified she’ll go to an early grave — just like her husband’s mom, Princess Diana Opens a New Window.  — if she refuses to fall in line with the royal family!
Thomas Markle Jr. Opens a New Window.  begs Queen Elizabeth Opens a New Window.  to look after his kid sister in the never-before-seen note.
Meghan’s half brother is paranoid a similar tragedy could await the former Suits star!
In the furious handwritten letter, obtained by Radar, he raged: “Meghan’s dream was to be a princess someday like Diana Opens a New Window.  … It would also be sad to see Meg’s dreams broken if she were to fail in her new position and disappear from the royal family.”
“Diana was like a lamb to the slaughter when she married Prince Charles Opens a New Window.  at age 20,” said a source.
“Diana died because she refused to toe the royal line.
“Meghan is another loose cannon who keeps thumbing her nose at royal protocol.
“We fear this can only end in heartbreak and disaster — just like Diana!”
Meghan has made no secret of her obsession with the late princess, fawning over a video of Diana’s wedding to Charles as a girl and copying Di’s signature fashions.
Copycat Meghan also mirrored her idol with her charitable work and reportedly made a secret visit to Di’s grave to pay her respects before marrying Harry.
“Meghan told a friend, ‘Diana and I are so much alike. I know if she had lived we would have been the best of friends,’” tattled an insider.
“It’s clear Meghan believes, ‘I’m the new Di.’”  :tehe:
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/07/meghan-markle-brother-thomas-letter-queen-elizabeth-die-young-like-princess-diana/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 18, 2018, 08:44:44 pm
I may be mistaken but didn't this grifter et PH issue statements claiming Tom Sr had heart surgery?  I do remembermany of us here on forum questioning the legitimacy of those reports and the timing of said surgery. Hmmm... he said she said... pitiful people... I still believe Meghan is the kookiest of all of this tribe.

Did radaronline get this latest story from this forum?  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 18, 2018, 09:29:10 pm
^^Uh oh! Charles won't like this one bit.

^You are correct about the statement. Her statement was the reason why many who first questioned the heart surgery claims backed off from the idea.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 19, 2018, 02:22:00 am
Bombshell Letter! Meghan’s Brother Begs Queen: Don’t Let My Sister Die Like Diana!
In a bombshell letter exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com, Meghan Markle Opens a New Window. ’s brother claims loved ones are terrified she’ll go to an early grave — just like her husband’s mom, Princess Diana Opens a New Window.  — if she refuses to fall in line with the royal family!
Thomas Markle Jr. Opens a New Window.  begs Queen Elizabeth Opens a New Window.  to look after his kid sister in the never-before-seen note.
Meghan’s half brother is paranoid a similar tragedy could await the former Suits star!
In the furious handwritten letter, obtained by Radar, he raged: “Meghan’s dream was to be a princess someday like Diana Opens a New Window.  … It would also be sad to see Meg’s dreams broken if she were to fail in her new position and disappear from the royal family.”
“Diana was like a lamb to the slaughter when she married Prince Charles Opens a New Window.  at age 20,” said a source.
“Diana died because she refused to toe the royal line.
“Meghan is another loose cannon who keeps thumbing her nose at royal protocol.
“We fear this can only end in heartbreak and disaster — just like Diana!”
Meghan has made no secret of her obsession with the late princess, fawning over a video of Diana’s wedding to Charles as a girl and copying Di’s signature fashions.
Copycat Meghan also mirrored her idol with her charitable work and reportedly made a secret visit to Di’s grave to pay her respects before marrying Harry.
“Meghan told a friend, ‘Diana and I are so much alike. I know if she had lived we would have been the best of friends,’” tattled an insider.
“It’s clear Meghan believes, ‘I’m the new Di.’”  :tehe:
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/07/meghan-markle-brother-thomas-letter-queen-elizabeth-die-young-like-princess-diana/


I doubt Meghan said she was the New Di.

Also Sam and Tom Jr seem to be the ones truly obsessed with Diana.  She certainly does not imitate Diana's style in clothing. Probably Harry took her to DIana's grave.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 19, 2018, 06:11:51 am
^No. The entire Markle clan is hired to build up Meghan's exit sympathy card and of course make money off of the open letters and interviews. How come everyone from the Markles suddenly started to come forward with hoe special Meghan is and how the rf are the big bad wold that don't let their sweet white trash fame hungry member of the family to speak to them or visit them.

^^^Meghan hopes that people have short memories but we don't.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 19, 2018, 12:21:57 pm
'It is so obvious that you have a bad drinking problem': Meghan Markle's dad is 'furious' after Sharon Osbourne tells him to 'get clean and sober' but friends insist he only has an occasional glass of wine with food
Osbourne made the wild allegations on her CBS panel show, The Talk, just one day after Thomas Markle was filmed for a tell-all interview about his broken relationship with his daughter, the Duchess of Sussex.
With her head in her hands, the X Factor judge looked pained as she tried to express how 'humiliated' she thought Meghan would be at his constant media interviews.
'It is so obvious that you have a bad drinking problem,' she said of Thomas, a former Hollywood lighting director.
'And it's obvious that over the last few years, you haven't been close with your daughter.
'Get yourself clean and sober and then come back.'
Friends of the 74-year-old hit back in Thomas' defense, telling The Sun he will only occasionally have a glass of wine with a meal.
One friend said Thomas was 'shocked' by Osbourne's claims about his sobriety. 
'It's totally untrue and he's been through enough with his recent health issues without people making these sorts of allegations.
'He's livid. Utterly furious. Sharon Osbourne doesn't know him at all. How dare she say these things.'
Osbourne had more advice for Thomas, who she believes is 'embarrassing' his daughter.
'Just be happy for your daughter. Let her live her life,' she said.
'She is so dignified - you should try to give a little bit of that dignity for her.'  :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5969059/Meghan-Markles-dad-utterly-furious-Sharon-Osbourne-tells-clean-sober.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 19, 2018, 02:36:15 pm
Tom Sr being criticized by a celebrity probably made his day.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 19, 2018, 02:52:45 pm
 Sharon Osbourne needs up to look up the word dignified


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 19, 2018, 02:57:35 pm
Mr Markles face does not reflect that of a heavy drinker.

I think it's time he realised his daughter is nothing more than a biological daughter; she's not the real deal that a father wants.  I feel for him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on July 19, 2018, 03:02:32 pm
I don't like Meghan at all, but if someone in my family was doing what her family is doing at the moment I can assure you that they will never see my teeth again...
I am someone that when my good opinion is lost, this means that is lost forever!!!
And we can see that her sister behaviour is strange... So at the start, she was mean, then she was amazing, then she realises that she is not getting an invitation she is mean again... criticises everything and trashes everything that is made by BRF and claims that her father must have a coat of arms... now its BRF fault that she behaves like this.... she is mad and an attention sicker...

Can't blame her...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 19, 2018, 03:17:36 pm
Mr Markles face does not reflect that of a heavy drinker.

I think it's time he realised his daughter is nothing more than a biological daughter; she's not the real deal that a father wants.  I feel for him.

If he loved her he would not air dirty linen to the media. He is not the real deal as far as I am concerned. I lost sympathy for him when he rushed to the media. And I think he likes getting $$$$ better than his daughter. this man is no saint. Meghan is no saint but I blame tom for this fiasco.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 19, 2018, 03:26:20 pm
 This man is now pretty creepy why is anyone paying attention to him


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 19, 2018, 05:09:59 pm
^Because everyone loves a good soap opera and this whole bucket of nuts labeled Markle is serving top shelf at the moment.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: michelle0187 on July 19, 2018, 05:33:15 pm
Mr Markles face does not reflect that of a heavy drinker.

I think it's time he realised his daughter is nothing more than a biological daughter; she's not the real deal that a father wants.  I feel for him.

It's messed up for him to continue doing the most to get a phone call. He probably knew that she was nothing but a biological daughter when she ghosted him before ph came along. Why didn't she help him before this relationship began and why didn't he meet Harry. He wasn't bumping the gums back then. It's a little funny how Meg stans thought the Markles were gonna fade out after the wedding. They foolishly believed the press would no longer talk to them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 19, 2018, 05:53:46 pm
It's not not known Pre Harry what she did re: her family.

Tom's a grown man who needs to get his act together. He's  not a baby. He knows darn well what he's doing.

I don't know what Meghan "thought" about her family. I don't know if she thought they would "fade out."


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 19, 2018, 06:19:28 pm
Meghan’s Brother Begs Queen To Give Their Dad A Royal Title In Shocking Letter!
Meghan Markle’s Opens a New Window.  half brother has begged the Queen in a letter to give their father a title—and let him see his daughter before it’s too late!
Incredibly, in a demanding handwritten note exclusively obtained by RadarOnline.com, Thomas Markle Jr. wrote to Queen Elizabeth Opens a New Window.  that his dad—and Meghan’s mother, Doria Ragland, deserve royal titles.
“Possibly you can give Tom SNR and Doria royal titles which would also make my father very proud,” Thomas Jr. wrote to the British monarch on July 8.
“Possibly this could happen if Meghan were to bring Tom SNR to the palace sooner than later because my father deserved to be treated like Royalty like he treated Meghan her whole life. She owes him that,” Thomas Jr. opined.
Thomas Jr. also referred to his dad’s estrangement from Meghan, 36, following her wedding to Prince Harry, 33, in the never-before-seen letter.
Thomas Sr. didn’t attend the nuptials due to heart surgery.
Later, a source told Radar that her dad’s controversial comments to the press got him banned from any contact with the royal family.
The royals were “shocked and blindsided” when Meghan’s reclusive dad, who lives Mexico Opens a New Window. , told journalist Piers Morgan Opens a New Window.  about his chats with Prince Harry about politics and other topics
Thomas Sr. also gave an explosive interview to The Sun Opens a New Window.  in which he said he believes his daughter is smiling through the pain and pressure of being part of the royal family after marrying Harry.
In his letter to the Queen, his son Thomas Jr. doesn’t acknowledge the kerfuffle about his dad’s comments, but writes, “I urge you to convince Meg to bring her father to the palace for him to meet the royal family and spend time with him, I recently went to see him after hearing of his heart surgery and his health is not that good.”
“I fear if Meghan waits too long it will be too late, as Tom SNR feels like he won’t see her again,” he noted.
As Radar previously reported, Thomas Jr.’s letter also claimed that loved ones are terrified that Meghan will go to an early grave just like her husband’s mom, Princess Diana Opens a New Window. —if she refuses to fall in line with the royal family Opens a New Window. .
He wrote to the Queen that it would be “sad to see Meg’s dreams broken if she were to fail in her new position and disappear from the royal family.”
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/07/meghan-markle-brother-begs-queen-in-letter-give-our-dad-royal-title/



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 19, 2018, 06:47:13 pm
WTF?!!?  :- :o :o :o  This is the Middletrash Tribe on warped speed.... these people are truly disgusting and both are white trash families playing the same playbook et script with small differences because of race, age, country of origin, etc but they are the same backed by the same people to cause the same trouble and for the same goal which is, in part, to make a prince miserable and unhappy, lower a sitting queen beneath the grifter and to give the grifters both money and social status... I know people, enemies, who laugh HMQ and ask who would keep KM around? These are violent criminals who laugh in disgust at the BRF. They shake their heads and demand why HMQ  won't put a stop to this shytfest. Seriously, this is truly crazy shyt to allow and in public and on the world stage. Can you only imagine what the fyck goes on away from prying eyes?  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 19, 2018, 06:47:28 pm
^ Oh man, this family is desperate to go back to showbiz.

If he loved her he would not air dirty linen to the media.

Love doesn't work that way. There is no should or obligation for the father to behave in certain way if the daughter is praising how close she is right up until she meets Harry and then ghosts him like he's the plague.

It's not not known Pre Harry what she did re: her family.

We do know. She was boasting how close she is with her family. She was posting pictures on IG. With Sam - could have been estranged but about her father - even in interviews for Suits she was saying how close she is with both her parents.

I do agree - Tom Sr (and Tom Jr) are grownups and they know exactly what they are doing.
Tom Sr is hired to whine, Samantha to contradict herself and appease that side of the public that is not fond of Meghan (like they did with Elvis Presley), Tom Jr is hired to write emphatic letters to the royal family ... now that Meggy can't go to VF for an interview and a story to tell ... her inside man got fired the day the VF interview was printed.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 19, 2018, 07:05:21 pm
^ Just like the Middleton's they are looking to cash in BIG-TIME with $$$, titles, fame, fortune, social status, paid interviews, tv talk shows, correspondent posts... they are alike but the Middleton's have caused more damage than the Markles esp behind the scenes and to the prince being leached onto. It's all part of the plan. Restraining Orders come to mind.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: michelle0187 on July 19, 2018, 07:50:19 pm
It's not not known Pre Harry what she did re: her family.

Tom's a grown man who needs to get his act together. He's  not a baby. He knows darn well what he's doing.

I don't know what Meghan "thought" about her family. I don't know if she thought they would "fade out."

She never introduced him to Harry. What kind of relationship did they have at that time ? He never blabbed back then. And I said her stans thought the family would fade out after the wedding, not mm herself.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 19, 2018, 08:02:17 pm
Supposedly they met on skype or so I heard.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 19, 2018, 08:17:05 pm
So there's no excuse for Meghan to not dial her dad up, made up surgery or not. Just by looking at him I can tell you that he won't last much. Only a cold-hearted person will blame on others that which she herself should do which is pick up the phone and call.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 20, 2018, 01:08:21 am
Fancy a McRoyale? Thomas Markle Sr. celebrates his 74th birthday alone in LA by buying himself a McDonald's Happy Meal just days after revealing he's lost all contact with daughter Meghan
Thomas Markle Sr. has celebrated his 74th birthday alone by eating a McDonald's Happy Meal and shopping in Los Angeles just days after revealing he has lost all contact with his daughter Meghan.
Markle Sr. had left his home in Rosarito, Mexico on Tuesday night, the eve of his birthday, and drove the six hours in heavy traffic to check into a $130-a-night motel in Los Angeles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5972475/Thomas-Markle-Sr-celebrates-74th-birthday-Los-Angeles.html
I'm sure he's in LA to do another interview. These pictures are setup by him again since Backgrid took them and usually celebrities call this company to get papped.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 20, 2018, 01:12:26 am
DeGuernsey, something tells me the Markles will turn out to be far, far worse than the Middletons ever were...and that's frightening. These are no filter, entitled Ameri-trash we're talking about and I say this as an American.

I knew her lobbying for a signet/crest of her own would end up backfiring. I'm just surprised it took this long. If I wasn't convinced before, I am now: All of them were in on it from the beginning but someone decided to go rouge shortly before the wedding. When the rest of the bunch started getting cut out of the spoils is when the crazy (PR) train went off the rails.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 20, 2018, 03:58:20 pm
So there's no excuse for Meghan to not dial her dad up, made up surgery or not. Just by looking at him I can tell you that he won't last much. Only a cold-hearted person will blame on others that which she herself should do which is pick up the phone and call.

That's exactly what a loving daughter would do, but that isn't MeAgain.  No Way.  She's ice through and through - her Father is acting like someone who has been discarded by a Narc - they don't get or comprehend "why".

I think the sister and brother should be quieter, but not the Dad.  She bragged about how loving he was, how caring - marriage to Harry and "sorry Dad, you're no longer needed". 

As for Harry - you'd think he'd encourage a hurting parent to be consoled.  He and his brother have used their Mother's death and pain since the year dot; and I don't see anyone complaining about their Mother airing the laundry.  Harry needs to think back long and hard.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 20, 2018, 04:03:06 pm
I don't think Harry is capable of thinking back at this point


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 20, 2018, 05:47:46 pm
^You are undoubtedly correct.  Keeping the Distracting Drama going doesn’t leave anybody time to think or, like pickpockets, discover their wallet is gone.  It’s classic manipulation.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 20, 2018, 07:43:45 pm
Harry can have a good relationship  with his father, who obviously loathes his dead mother and loves slander her memory at every possible situation (+his close friendship and access to Penny Junor), I dont know why he and/or Meghan see T Markle as so horrible and unsuitable (next to charles, camilla and philip). as he was a very loving and involved dad in her life (according to Meghan herself). it was him who told her to write to then 1rst lady Hilary Clinton, a moment that Meghan herself is very proud of.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 20, 2018, 10:20:27 pm
Murky drops people when she doesn't need them time and time again. Her behavior is par for her course. How could Harry care. He doesn't know or have any relationship with this man. He will do what the Murks says.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 20, 2018, 10:58:10 pm
Fancy a McRoyale? Thomas Markle Sr. celebrates his 74th birthday alone in LA by buying himself a McDonald's Happy Meal just days after revealing he's lost all contact with daughter Meghan
Thomas Markle Sr. has celebrated his 74th birthday alone by eating a McDonald's Happy Meal and shopping in Los Angeles just days after revealing he has lost all contact with his daughter Meghan.
Markle Sr. had left his home in Rosarito, Mexico on Tuesday night, the eve of his birthday, and drove the six hours in heavy traffic to check into a $130-a-night motel in Los Angeles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5972475/Thomas-Markle-Sr-celebrates-74th-birthday-Los-Angeles.html
I'm sure he's in LA to do another interview. These pictures are setup by him again since Backgrid took them and usually celebrities call this company to get papped.


If he really had that heart procedure, he should stay away from McDonalds this story gets more and more weird.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 20, 2018, 11:06:30 pm
Wonder which toy he got in his Happy Meal.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 21, 2018, 12:11:43 am
Is Meghan afraid to reconnect with her father? Sources claim the Duchess of Sussex 'lives in fear' that he will 'leak' conversations if they speak and feels 'she has no choice but to ignore him'
Meghan Markle reportedly hasn't spoken to her father, Thomas Markle, in over two months, and it seems as though their fraught relationship may be beyond repair.
The 36-year-old Duchess of Sussex's estranged father has developed a penchant for speaking to the press about his daughter and the royal family, and Us Weekly reports that she's now terrified to talk to him out of fear that he'll leak their conversation to the media.
'Meghan is so upset over Thomas. She’s upset for a couple of reasons. She doesn’t even know how to communicate with her dad without knowing he won’t exploit her,' a source told the outlet.
'She lives in fear that he’ll leak their communication. If he’s spoken this much already, why wouldn’t he leak their conversation?'

Meghan was close to her father while growing up in Los Angeles, but their relationship was tested by his series of embarrassing gaffes in the months leading up to her royal wedding.
'She would like to speak to him, but there is no trust there anymore,' the source told Us Weekly. 'And it doesn’t seem like it could ever be rebuilt. The damage is done.'
'She has no other choice but to ignore him,' the person added.
The Duchess of Sussex's half-sister Samantha Markle has also been eager to take aim at Meghan in the press, most recently tweeting that if their father dies, it will be her fault.
However, the source told Us Weekly that Meghan isn't concerned about Samantha because she has seen or really spoke to her half-sister since she was a kid.  
Meghan has been leaning on her mother, Doria Ragland, who met Queen Elizabeth in London the day before attending the royal wedding.  
'Her mom has been incredible. She’s encouraging Meghan to ignore any negative press and focus on her new life,' the insider said.
'Doria is amazing. She’s a total bedrock and always takes the high road. She’s a very elegant woman and Meghan really turns to her for everything.'
Unlike her ex-husband, Doria has managed to avoid speaking to the press about their daughter.
Thomas, 74, first made headlines when he was caught staging paparazzi photos ahead of the royal wedding. Just days before his daughter's nuptials, he claimed he needed heart surgery and missed out on walking her down the aisle.  
However, a source told DailyMail.com that he faked the emergency operation as an excuse to not attend the royal wedding and garner sympathy.
The father recently claimed in an interview with the Sun on Sunday that he is worried about his daughter because she 'terrified' and 'under too much pressure.'
''There's a high price to pay to be married to that family,' he said, adding that Meghan is 'very controlling' and 'likes to be in charge' so wouldn't respond well to being kept on a tight leash by the royals.
Thomas said he won't stop speaking to the media until he's allowed to be a part of Meghan's life.
'I was silent for a full year and the press beat me up every day saying I was a hermit hiding in Mexico, so I gave my story,' he told TMZ earlier this week.
'Apparently that interview put the royal family in their silence mode . . . so, I gave another interview to break the silence. All they have to do is speak to me.'

Thomas celebrated his 74th birthday alone with a McDonald's Happy Meal in Los Angeles on Wednesday, just days after revealing he has lost all contact with his daughter.

He left his home in Rosarito, Mexico, on Tuesday night, the eve of his birthday, and drove six hours in heavy traffic to check into a $130-a-night motel in Los Angeles.
Thomas birthday celebrations came the day after Meghan and Prince Harry carried out their royal duties by visiting The Nelson Mandela Centenary Exhibition in London.
The couple's outing prompted Meghan's outspoken half-sister Samantha Markle to lash out at her, saying if their father dies, 'it's on you Meg.'
Samantha launched into her Twitter tirade on Tuesday night, hours after Thomas told TMZ he wouldn't stop talking to the media until his daughter accepted him back into her life.
The 53-year-old took aim at Meghan and Prince Harry's appearance at the Nelson Mandela centenary exhibition in London earlier that day, telling her: 'How about you pay tribute to your own father?! Enough is enough.'
'Act like a humanitarian, act like a woman,' she wrote, adding: 'If our father dies, it's on you Meg.'
Since joining the British royal family, Meghan has deleted all forms of social media, so it is not believed she has seen Samantha's tweets.
Samantha, a mother-of-three who is writing a book about 'living in the shadows of the Duchess,' continued: 'Glad you have so much time to gallivant around paying tribute to others while ignoring your own father!'
'How cold can you be and look in the mirror? Harry? I guess I was right.'
On Thursday, Us Weekly reported that Meghan is taking a solo trip to the U.S. ahead of an official visit with Prince Harry, 33, in 2019.
According to the publication's source, the royal wants to return to her home country before becoming a mother for the first time, and she is looking to visit New York and Los Angeles.  
The solo excursion will reportedly come before she and Harry embark on their first royal tour this fall.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are slated to visit Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, and the Kingdom of Tonga in October.
Meghan recently revealed that she will be joining her new husband at the Invictus Games, which take place in Sydney from October 20 to 27, and the tour coincides with the Paralympic-style competition founded by the prince.
Us Weekly also reported that the newlyweds are planning a trip across the pond in spring of 2019, and Meghan 'is looking forward to introducing Harry to everything she loves about the U.S.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5976179/Meghan-Markle-lives-fear-father-leak-conversations.html
Umm, this will keep the family in the press the longer she ignores them and she’s still attached to the royal family. They’re all cashing in on the association.  :cookie:  This needs to be shut down now as it’s gone too far. Every day it seems this lot’s in the press talking nonsense about the royal family and demanding things from them.
This is gaslighting from Meghan, with her multiple articles a day hyping her trips, fashion and how much she’s an asset and needed by the royal family to her family with their interviews on and dumb letters written to the royal family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 21, 2018, 03:11:47 am
Why wouldn't she come to her hometown to visit. Or is she really coming to gloat over Hollywood.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: leogirl on July 21, 2018, 05:22:25 am
 :-X


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 21, 2018, 10:01:31 am
Samantha now being considered for CBB.  That would certainly restore the audiences and fascinating to watch.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 21, 2018, 02:43:30 pm
And they start doing the LA scene more and more, there will be far more scandals ahead.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 21, 2018, 03:18:36 pm
^I agree and we're already seeing it. Thomas passed up how many McD's in Mexico in order to go to one in Cali for the birthday Happy Meal pap shot? Yakkity sax should be played anytime a Markle shows up anywhere.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 21, 2018, 03:52:27 pm
^ :laugh:

This whole thing is going to completely implode.  Very soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 21, 2018, 05:15:42 pm
^ :laugh:

This whole thing is going to completely implode.  Very soon.
It's going to be a two-fer: The Middletrash and Markletrash tribes will be gone.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 21, 2018, 05:20:21 pm
Sure would be nice


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 21, 2018, 05:30:27 pm
I'm a bit curious how much did McDonalds pay for the product placement. Could DM help us with the digging..


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 21, 2018, 08:10:46 pm
Meghan’s mad at the palace press off.  :cookie: Of course this makes the saga continue on and some people are sympathetic towards her because of her family, however, it’s nothing to do with Harry or the palace as this is her father and family and she had plenty of time to sort them out. They’re all in this together because they’re all making money the longer Meghan’s attached to the royals. The minute she’s cut off and booted out, this nonsense stops.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176131121063/she-is-not-happy
I like that the article’s on the blogs are screen shots instead of the link.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 21, 2018, 08:23:56 pm
^I refuse to click on any links where she is concerned. The screenshotting idea is a good one.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 21, 2018, 08:35:55 pm
^ Not giving the airtime she and her sponsors desperately need ... welcome to tumblr browsing instead of clicking on articles.

The same link:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176131482068/she-is-not-happy


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on July 21, 2018, 08:56:26 pm
Why wouldn't she come to her hometown to visit. Or is she really coming to gloat over Hollywood.

Gloating is what she does best.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 21, 2018, 09:37:45 pm
She would never give up Hollywood at least not without a hard try to work it in her Life Style. She would do a film in a hot flash second if she was able to and she is going to angle for that you wait and see.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 22, 2018, 03:33:20 pm
Meghan Markle's sister Samantha confirms she is doing Celebrity Big Brother 'to cash in'
Meghan Markle's sister has appeared to confirm she will be on CBB to cash in on her limited fame.
Speaking to Inside Edition, Samantha Markle admitted she is open to any opportunities which would arise - but said she wouldn't be in the house to speak about half-sister Meghan.
It isn't clear why Samantha thinks she would be booked for the six week show if not to discuss her sister - the now Duchess of Sussex.
When asked if she was going on Celebrity Big Brother , Sam grinned and said: "Why not. Life is about cashing in, you… take opportunities as they arise and hopefully you enjoy the ride.
"And you can make it as positive as you can, there’s nothing wrong with it. The purpose of that show would not be to discuss [Meghan].”
The Multiple Sclerosis sufferer has already penned abook about her half sister - she shares father Thomas Markle with Meghan.
Samantha previously said: "Hollywood has changed her. I think her ambition is to become a princess."
She added: "It is true that I'm writing a book and the title is accurate whats not true is the swell that's been created that it's a tell all.
"I will recount the beautiful nuances of our lives and family home and the inter-racial evolution of this country through my family and how this intersects with the recent events with my sister and how sad it was going through it all.
Samantha denied ever bad-mouthing her sister in the press and added: "I just have to say don't believe what you say in tabloids if you didn't see me say it then it's not true."
If she does go into the Elstree compound she would be joining rumoured contestants Chloe Ayling and Gabby Allen . For the full list, click here.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/meghan-markles-sister-samantha-confirms-12958032
This is only about money that can be made having an association to royalty through Megs. Megs and her family are in this together for the money.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 22, 2018, 05:39:27 pm
Sorry for the double post, but things just kep getting gutterfied with this family.  :cookie:
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle's future sister-in-law is arrested for assault just months after being taken into custody as the result of a boozy bust up with the Duchess' half-brother Thomas Jr
Meghan Markle's future sister-in-law has been arrested for assault once again and spent yet another night behind bars.
Darlene Blount, 37, the fiancee of Thomas Markle Jr, was arrested in Grants Pass, Oregon, on Friday on a charge of assault.
She was bailed on Saturday, a deputy at Josephine County Jail told DailyMail.com.   
Few details are known about the incident, but a source told DailyMail.com: 'Last night there was a domestic violence call at the home of Thomas Markle [Jr] and Darlene Blount. Darlene was arrested on assault charges.'
It comes just months after a violent and boozy bust up with the Duchess of Sussex's half-brother.
Police were called to the home of Thomas Jr and his fiancee on New Year's Eve.
On that occasion she told the the 911 operator, the 51-year-old was being 'really f***ing weird' and was beating himself up.
Blount said Thomas had been drinking when he became jealous, thinking she was trying to 'f*** some dude' she knew when out at a local bar.
The then 36-year-old claimed to be 'scared' of Thomas because he is 'a big guy', suggesting to the operator that he could be mentally ill.
But when police arrived at the couple's home in Grants Pass, Oregon, they didn't buy Blount's story that Thomas hurt himself and arrested her for assault.
Thomas' bride-to-be was locked up in the Josephine County Jail for two nights until the District Attorney decided not to press charges and released her.
The couple later labeled the incident a wake-up call and said they were seeking relationship and alcohol counseling.
And previously in January 2016, Thomas Jr was arrested for allegedly holding a gun to Blount's head during another drunken row.   
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5979837/Meghan-Markles-future-sister-law-arrested-assault.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 22, 2018, 10:40:05 pm
Of course they are. How is any of this surprising. What I am waiting for is when one of them gets ofted somehow
Which American Law Firm will get the lawsuit that will cross the pond and bring the family down


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 22, 2018, 11:09:35 pm
^I'm so glad I'm not the only one bracing for something like that. It's only a matter of time.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 22, 2018, 11:17:50 pm
I hope the unfortunate fiancee of TOm Jr has enough brains to dump the loser and get sober. So pathetic.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 22, 2018, 11:38:43 pm
Meg's the key to this tacky family staying in the news. Wendy Williams has her number.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeBwlfHF9bF/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=nk4cxvnh9y2x


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 23, 2018, 01:24:11 am
^Wow! Was this right after the engagement?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 23, 2018, 05:19:12 am
^Yes, back then Meghan was calling for performances on a show on her own

I hope the unfortunate fiancee of TOm Jr has enough brains to dump the loser and get sober. So pathetic.

I think the 'unfortunate' fiancee is just like Tom Jr:  arrests, assaults, mug shots, booze, lack of gum control...

 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 23, 2018, 05:47:49 am
Sounds exactly like uncle Gary.  Ma medd allegedly thrilled at the bad press of the Markles. Villagers saying she is positively crowing.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 23, 2018, 05:49:53 am
^

The next thing will be QE driving them around in her Range Rover as she was forced to do with ma medd to show solidarity when ma was getting her usual criticism.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 23, 2018, 05:54:32 am
Samantha going to be on Good Morning Britain this morning at 6 am.  Should be interesting as Piers Morgan a presenter who has a knack of getting people to talk.   Just going to switch on.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 23, 2018, 06:12:39 am
^Please give us an play by play. You never know what will come out of Sam's mouth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 23, 2018, 12:11:57 pm
'Money makes the world go around': Samantha Markle admits 'cashing in' on Meghan's marriage to Prince Harry as she pleads with half-sister to visit father amid fears for his health
The 53-year-old said: 'I've worked in media most of my life and in broadcasting. So because my sister is suddenly royal isn't grounds for me to stop doing all that.
'Let's face it, we all have to survive, money makes the world go round, so if you want to call that cashing in, that's fine. But no one in media would refuse a paycheck for talking about the royals.'
She later added: 'For someone to say, ''Oh you shouldn't take any money, you should turn down a paycheck'', go tell your boss you don't want a paycheck for interviewing me because that's cashing in.'
Samantha said: 'I've worked in media most of my life, why would I not? Why would I stop living because I have a family issue going on?
'Back to the issue of cashing in, the media make billions of dollars off social issues and talking about the Royals. I don't see how we're any different. No one has a copyright on our life experiences.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5981693/Samantha-Markle-admits-cashing-Meghans-marriage-Prince-Harry.html

ood Morning Britain

@GMB
 · 4h
Replying to @GMB
Exclusive: Samantha Markle says there is 'a rift' between Meghan and her father. She believes reaching out publicly will help her father's cause. pic.twitter.com/WCK5Cd8b77

Good Morning Britain

@GMB
Exclusive: Samantha Markle denies she is 'cashing in' on her half-sister's royal connections insisting 'we all have to survive, money makes the world go round'. She later refused to deny rumours about going into Celebrity Big Brother house. pic.twitter.com/tVg5yzlF98
2:56 AM - Jul 23, 2018



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 23, 2018, 03:40:03 pm
I love the Markles. They are the new honey-boo-boos. With them you get what you expected but it's still entertaining to watch it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 23, 2018, 04:23:53 pm
^You're so right!  And it's only just started.  Imagine the thrills and chills (and gossip goldmine) to come.   :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 23, 2018, 05:58:04 pm
QE has all the morning papers spread out at breakfast.  I can just imagine her ‘we are not amused’ face.  Ma midd apparently chortling with delight and unable to contain her glee.  Over in the Caribbean raising umpteen glasses of bubbly to celebrate.   Making Uncle Gaz, his pimping, wife beating and drug snorting look like the angel Gabriel now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 23, 2018, 08:55:50 pm
I would pay good money to hear what Phillip and Anne have to say about all of this.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 23, 2018, 11:51:14 pm
QE has all the morning papers spread out at breakfast.  I can just imagine her ‘we are not amused’ face.  Ma midd apparently chortling with delight and unable to contain her glee.  Over in the Caribbean raising umpteen glasses of bubbly to celebrate.   Making Uncle Gaz, his pimping, wife beating and drug snorting look like the angel Gabriel now.

I doubt that. The Midds being judgmental is a bad joke. IMO. MEg's silly sister Sam is an embarrassment. THe QUeen probably does not even think about Sammie.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 24, 2018, 01:42:42 am
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176210346973/oh-this-is-so-bad
 :o


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 24, 2018, 04:27:17 am
^WOW!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: leogirl on July 24, 2018, 06:35:29 am
Um, no. Harry is 6th in line, will go up a place when HM passes, and will go down further when George, Charlotte and Louis grow up and have children of their own. If Meghan wanted to be queen, she married the wrong brother.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 24, 2018, 02:50:45 pm
I wonder which marble will get oft first.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: india on July 24, 2018, 06:09:50 pm
Meghan may become queen when the truth comes out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 24, 2018, 07:00:24 pm
^If the truth is that bad and goes that deep the whole institution would be tainted and would need to be abolished. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 24, 2018, 07:53:11 pm
Yet another confirmation that the whole family is working as part of Meghan's PR and they keep blabbing what she's not allowed to blab anymore.


From day 1 she was pinning for queen. I hope Chuck deals with her and quickly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 24, 2018, 10:18:00 pm
^Yes! She's been pushing that narrative since day one. Between this and the letters from her brother to the Queen, I really hope someone has the gonads to put her in her place once and for all.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 25, 2018, 02:48:38 pm
In the extremely unlikely event that Meghan gets to the "top" she would only be a consort. Harry and his firstborn child would be the next two monarchs.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 25, 2018, 05:59:46 pm
^Someone might want to let Markle know this.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: MOSAIC on July 25, 2018, 08:25:52 pm
Yet another confirmation that the whole family is working as part of Meghan's PR and they keep blabbing what she's not allowed to blab anymore.


From day 1 she was pinning for queen. I hope Chuck deals with her and quickly.


Chuck needs to deal with both his sons, their wives and families.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on July 25, 2018, 09:09:56 pm
Sadly it's about 15 years too late. They are a lost cause, mainly due to Chucky's pushing and shoving Cams down everybody's throats and ignoring his sons.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on July 25, 2018, 09:23:35 pm
Um, no. Harry is 6th in line, will go up a place when HM passes, and will go down further when George, Charlotte and Louis grow up and have children of their own. If Meghan wanted to be queen, she married the wrong brother.

Uh...never mind.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 26, 2018, 12:19:30 am
Sadly it's about 15 years too late. They are a lost cause, mainly due to Chucky's pushing and shoving Cams down everybody's throats and ignoring his sons.

Charles' priorities were so messed up he can't possibly judge or "deal with" any of them. The sons will just drift on the same way they always have.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 26, 2018, 03:37:46 am
Off topic.  Not the PC and Camilla venting thread.  Gettin old, guys.  YM


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 26, 2018, 02:35:07 pm
I'll put it another way. It's a case of Will and Harry being set in their ways, they are not kids anymore and one is married with children. I doubt things will change significantly for them and their attitudes. For better or for worse they chose the women they wanted to be with. I am not thinking Harry and Meghan will change much, maybe the spending will be curbed and maybe the Markles will quiet down. But t his could go on for a few years and if they have a baby the Markles will begin more media campaigns and they will be intensified.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 27, 2018, 02:24:46 am
Meghan Markle's relatives BANNED from top reality shows by TV chiefs
EXCLUSIVE: ITV and BBC want to shy away from “cashing in” on the potential PR exposure – fearing it could be in bad taste

Meghan Markle need no longer fret about seeing any controversial relatives on top reality shows like I’m a Celebrity, Strictly or Dancing on Ice.

Half-sister Samantha has been tipped for Channel 5’s Celebrity Big Brother but bosses at ITV and the BBC have decided to ban the Markle clan from their shows.


Both broadcasters want to shy away from “cashing in” on the potential PR exposure – fearing it could be in bad taste.

It comes as early pitch meetings for network shows and independent production firms were understood to have discussed the potential of featuring her relatives.

They included dad Thomas, half-brother Thomas Jnr, Samantha and cousin Tyler Dooley, who grows legal cannabis in Oregon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markles-relatives-banned-top-12987000


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 27, 2018, 04:39:08 am
^ :laugh:  US tv production companies are loving this.  Just the word “banned” will warm their cold, dead hearts.  This is perfect.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on July 27, 2018, 05:19:05 am
^^So ITV's Good Morning Britain will no longer interview Thomas & Samantha? No reality shows, but interviews only?  :cookie:

Another case of people bending over backwards for Megs or maybe it's out of respect for Harry? Fear?  :dontknow:

It seems like ITV has already done damage by interviewing them in the first place, no?

 :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 27, 2018, 05:24:47 am
^Fear.  No doubt in my mind.  Since when has any media outlet put good taste and discretion first?  Please.  This is censorship of the highest order.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 27, 2018, 08:57:59 am
It shouldn’t effect the US TV companies and similar shows so perhaps they will keep popping up on those.  QE and her heavies won’t have any influence over them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 27, 2018, 12:11:26 pm
With the internet the RF are powerless to control unlike in the Wallis era. This show will run and run til they visit the trollope out. Hopefully sooner rather than later


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 27, 2018, 12:13:26 pm
^ and ^^You're right.  The US can do whatever it likes.  In fact, this only raises the Markles' stock in America.  They will use the free speech repression angle to the max.  No question about it.  Move over, Kardashians.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 27, 2018, 12:20:15 pm
^^exactly.
I don’t think that it was pressure from the royal family to shut the Markle’s up. I see it as that they don’t have any value to them because Meghan’s not important in the scheme of things. The more she’s seen now, the more people are questioning her character and the odd marriage with Harry.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 27, 2018, 11:17:17 pm
Meghan Markle's relatives BANNED from top reality shows by TV chiefs
EXCLUSIVE: ITV and BBC want to shy away from “cashing in” on the potential PR exposure – fearing it could be in bad taste

Meghan Markle need no longer fret about seeing any controversial relatives on top reality shows like I’m a Celebrity, Strictly or Dancing on Ice.

Half-sister Samantha has been tipped for Channel 5’s Celebrity Big Brother but bosses at ITV and the BBC have decided to ban the Markle clan from their shows.


Both broadcasters want to shy away from “cashing in” on the potential PR exposure – fearing it could be in bad taste.

It comes as early pitch meetings for network shows and independent production firms were understood to have discussed the potential of featuring her relatives.

They included dad Thomas, half-brother Thomas Jnr, Samantha and cousin Tyler Dooley, who grows legal cannabis in Oregon.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markles-relatives-banned-top-12987000

I think they should go on the shows The more people see them the quicker they will get sick of hearing about them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 28, 2018, 10:41:51 pm
'Perhaps it would be easier if I was DEAD': Heartbroken Thomas Markle says his daughter the Duchess of Sussex has cut him off and changed all her numbers since she married Prince Harry... but he won't let the Palace silence him

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6002773/Thomas-Markle-says-Meghan-cut-life.html


INGRID SEWARD: Phone your dad, Meghan ...for his sake and for yours

Yes, his outbursts on these pages about his daughter, Harry, and the rest of the Royals may sound hostile and insensitive.
But who would not have sympathy with a father of the bride who has not even met his new Royal son-in-law?
Is it not a matter of simple duty that his daughter get in touch?

The emotional legacy of Diana is something that her sons, William and Harry, have been at pains to honour, both in their public statements and in their choice of charity to support.
Yet there is nothing warm, supportive or particularly family minded about the position in which Mr Markle now finds himself.
For Meghan’s part, some might imagine that her new-found Royal status is to blame – that she now lives in such a straitjacket of demands, conventions and protocols that communication between father and daughter has become difficult, if not impossible.
Yet this is simply not the case.

No one has been telling Meghan what to do or what not to do when it comes to her personal relationship with her father.
The Queen does not intervene in family matters – although she might wish she had done when it came to the breakdown of her son’s marriage to Diana – so it is up to Meghan how she chooses to deal with her relatives.
In other words, the new Duchess of Sussex is free to repair the damage, and I cannot be alone in hoping she will do so.
Both she and her Prince are suffering from the fallout. It is notable how happy she has been to embrace publicly her demure, yoga-teacher mother, yet her heavy-set father has been less fortunate.

Is she embarrassed by Thomas Markle, the man who, at the very least, was a dutiful father and paid for her to attend a private school?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6002891/INGRID-SEWARD-Thomas-Markle-relationship-Duchess-Sussex-Meghan.html
a well-balanced article by Charles' syncophant!

'Diana would have loathed the way I've been treated': Thomas Markle hits out at Palace for taking 'strained' Meghan away from him... and admits he doesn't care if Prince Harry ever speaks to him again
By Peter Sheridan And Caroline Graham For The Mail On Sunday
Published: 22:00 BST, 28 July 2018 | Updated: 22:33 BST, 28 July 2018
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6002885/Princess-Diana-loathed-Meghan-Harry-treated-Thomas-Markle.html

This man is a angel with halo next to charles, his brothers, old phil and, probably, harry and his own daughter! He defnitely was a better parent to meghan than the old liz and phil ever were to charles and than diana and fergie ever had (especially the mothers!) and than charles was to his sons.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 28, 2018, 11:52:44 pm
Ingrid Seward should can go on and on about this as much as she wants. If Tom were so "heartbroken" he would not collect money from the media with his rants about his daughter. Why does she bring Diana into it? And Markle bringing Diana into it is absurd.Diana is dead and he has no clue how she would react to this. Ironically Charles rails against his own parents through his biographers and Tom rails on about his daughter.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 28, 2018, 11:56:03 pm
'If they're not doing anything for you, why should you do anything for them?': Thomas Markle reveals what Meghan's mother Doria taught her daughter... and says that's where she got her 'wilful streak'
Thomas Markle suggests that Meghan has a wilful streak that she inherited from her mother, Doria.
‘Meghan got her attitude from her mother,’ he said.
‘Doria always told Meghan: “If they’re not doing anything for you, why should you do anything for them?”’
He added: ‘I like to think that a little kindness goes a long way. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
‘A kind word goes a long way. Meghan’s been an actress for long enough: she’s had to deal with fans, to know that treating them with kindness is best.’
Criticising his former wife is unlikely to win Mr Markle support in Britain, where the public was impressed by Doria’s display of quiet dignity at Meghan and Harry’s wedding in May.  
Unlike other members of her family, Doria has declined to speak publicly. According to Mr Markle, Meghan should set aside criticism from her half-sister, Samantha, and respond with compassion.
In one outburst, Samantha criticised Meghan and Harry for paying tribute to Nelson Mandela, writing on Twitter: “How about you pay tribute to your own father?! Enough is enough.
‘Act like a humanitarian. Act like a woman! If our father dies I’m holding you responsible, Meg!’
She later said Prince Harry was ‘a wuss to allow the Duchess of Nonsense to mistreat everyone who has been close to her’.
But Mr Markle insisted: ‘Meghan could have won Samantha over with just a few kind words and Samantha would have praised Meghan for all her days.
'Instead, Meghan turned her back on Samantha and now Samantha won’t stop talking negatively about Meghan.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6002995/Thomas-Markle-says-daughter-Meghan-got-wilful-streak-mother-Doria.html
They were banned from being on entertainment shows in the U.K. but not on news shows such as Good Morning Britain and in the press. Meghan has a perfect excuse to go to America and deal with her family because the palace isn’t going to do anything and nor should they. This will be the course until she visits them or hopefully a bombshell will break about gold digging Meghan that’ll get rid of the whole lot; finally shutting up and live like hermits for sheer embarrassment.   :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 29, 2018, 12:08:18 am
The sad part is that he is making $$$ by running to the media. I think it is more about money than anything else.

Sammy Jo did not want to "win Meghan over" with her ugly rants and her "book" about Meghan.

Meghan knew better than to make public communication with Sammy through the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 29, 2018, 02:01:41 am
I hope they keep it up.  It's extremely entertaining


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sanka on July 29, 2018, 04:56:11 am
This is very entertaining but also sad if it is true. If true MM has used her father and no longer needs him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 29, 2018, 06:20:14 am
Charles and other members of the RF have used the press and books to get their point  across so why shouldn't Murky's Dad. She is a user and is treating her father the same way she treats everyone else when she's done with them . Her mother's no saint, wasn't she going to to give Oprah an interview, I doubt they  spent time together in those meetings  discussing Trump so she might well have been paid off to keep quiet.

Thomas spoke about Murky's sense of superiority, well he got that one right. I would be mortified to be in her position regarding her family but you reap what you sow so she only has herself to blame. She's treated her family with contempt and they're hitting back. Her father's not exactly winning fans but he's an elderly man, not in the best of health to look at and is no doubt feeling very hurt so he lashes out. Not a good way to go about things but it's human nature to react this way sometimes.

This isn't going to go go away a home soon and who knows what else is going great to come out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 29, 2018, 07:33:06 am
It's being reported that Tom was not paid for the latest round of interviews. Interesting...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 29, 2018, 01:43:47 pm
Maybe he was paid in advance. I doubt he'd do it for nothing unless some reward was promised or he already got one.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 29, 2018, 02:26:24 pm
I don't know if TM got paid or not.  Hope he did. 

However, this situation is found everywhere in the entertainment industry.  Markle is like many others who have worked in the business, knows them and is extremely comfortable in speaking with them.  He knows the game, of course, but using the media as a mouthpiece is hardly rare in that world.  In fact, it's more the norm than not and nobody really looks at is as hustling for money exclusively.  It's conversation.

Turn on any radio in the LA area and you will have celebrities calling in with all kinds of stuff.  Seeing or interacting with celebs is a weekly, if not daily, occurrence so no one looks at this as a big deal.

He's just perceived as a member of the group who wants to, American-style, tell his side of the story and talk to his daughter, mend his family be less lonely.  Sparkles is the one getting the short end of the stick here.  In that orb anyway.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 29, 2018, 02:37:50 pm
Smirkles needs to learn that ignoring problems doesn't make them go away. She could have reined this in long ago. But now everyone is all feeling sorry for Smirkles because of this, I can't help but think if her father is in on it somehow.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on July 29, 2018, 02:50:02 pm
They need to shup him up. He is getting ridiculous. The pap photos ok but the interviews are awful.

I dont know maybe he is 1% correct but any decent father wouldnt do this.

Btw is it true she lived with him during 7 years? And her mother?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 29, 2018, 02:55:26 pm
^Yeah, he raised her.  Where the mom was is still a mystery which makes this even more appalling.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 29, 2018, 03:12:00 pm
They need to shup him up. He is getting ridiculous. The pap photos ok but the interviews are awful.

I dont know maybe he is 1% correct but any decent father wouldnt do this.

Btw is it true she lived with him during 7 years? And her mother?
he did. and meghan herself said that and praised him as a father. even harry appears in the picture she loved him very much, according to herself (in several interviews)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on July 29, 2018, 03:25:27 pm
Thank you

More weird than I thought.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 29, 2018, 03:40:27 pm
No way would Tom do this for nothing. He's media savvy having worked in television. The media want the "big story" to get ratings and more of a share and more $$$ so they would pay him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on July 29, 2018, 05:44:41 pm
Apologies if this has been posted.  Please remove mods if duplicate.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5006480/thomas-markle-says-princess-diana-would-have-hated-how-duchess-meghan-treats-him/

They [the Royal Family] have Meghan treating her father in a way that Harry’s mother, Princess Diana, would have loathed. That’s not what Diana stood for. Princess Diana is credited with changing the Royal Family, but she wasn’t perfect. She was still very much one of them.”

Perhaps to soften the blow, Markle suggested that Meghan might be the one to build bridges like Prince Harry’s mother did.

“I think Meghan’s the one who’ll bring them into the 21st Century if they’ll let her.”


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 29, 2018, 05:53:34 pm
 :- :- :o :o :- :- Holey Moley! Tell me he didn't say that! What an idiot!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 29, 2018, 06:01:58 pm
Markle doesn't have that  much power to lead the family into the 21st century. Please! they're going into it anyways because it has arrived and part of the changes is accepting the commoners such as marble and waity into their mist.  they will never be ready for the markels to come in like the mids. But let's be fair who would want the Markles as their in-laws. I would be mortified if my son married into a family like that.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 29, 2018, 06:06:23 pm
Don't be too shocked.  This is how undereducated some people are about how things work. 

I heard a tv announcer state, during the POTUS' visit that, "Meghan Markle should be there at the meeting to bridge the gap to the future!"  Hand to God I swear.

So, daddy Markle is on the same page as some media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 29, 2018, 06:53:52 pm
Well some TV people will say anything won't they?  I can't see Meghan Markle and Trump having a nice meeting on anything serious nor do I think Trump would include her on anything. I'm sure truck knows what she went through in Hollywood and what she really is underneath he is not going to have her and Harry or Prince William for that matter or their idiot father on anything political. But it does not Shock me that some idiot TV person would think that now Meghan Markle has to be Bridging the Gap between London Bridge and the United States White House.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 29, 2018, 07:29:31 pm
I can actually imagine that he wasn't paid, simply so that when word gets out he can't be accused of "cashing in" but look like he's doing what he's doing for exactly the reasons he says: his daughter cut him off but he doesn't understand and wants contact.

There's also no spin at all in terms of payment, either he was paid or he wasn't. Payment in advance or afterwards can no way ever be spun into "he wasn't paid for his latest interviews". Payment either occurred or it didn't, there's no inbetween, no spin.

So she lived with him for 7 years and praised him as father but as soon as some dumb rich idiot came along she dumped her dad faster than anyone can say "tiara".
I enjoy this circus actually and I think this goes well with her character, dropping people after reaching goals. :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 29, 2018, 07:33:12 pm
He is not such a noble character. If he were a sincere person he'd stay away from the media. It is not known which one cut the other one off. It sounds like Tom Jr and Sam persuaded him to go to the media. No way would the man do this without being paid.  I can't imagine this guy as a saintly type. She was living on her own and there was a first husband. SHe did not live with Daddy until she found PRince Harry. She had TV work.

It seems to me that Tom dropped her, he will never tell what he earned from the interviews but I don't think it was a pittance.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 29, 2018, 07:58:23 pm
^^Exactly! There is no amount of verbal gymnastics that can twist this one into something it's not.

Too much of what he's saying makes me think he's gone off the reservation but I did notice he was quick to bring back the central narrative when he was done ranting: Meghan is St. Diana reincarnated.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 29, 2018, 08:04:00 pm
I don't think that anyone sees him as remotely noble or saintly.

I do think Murky dropped her dad like she dropped everyone else from her life.
And regardless what kind of person he is, I don't think that any parent would take too well to their child (with whom they seem to have had a good relationship, by their child's own accord!) cutting contact with no (big) reason.

His blabbing was hardly too bad, esp as contact seems to have been scarce ever since Haz hit the scene. It became only bad once she really cut him off, around engagement/ wedding.
KP may have offered advice as they claim and been there for "media training"; but that hardly makes up for his daughter dropping out of his life.
So what's the deal? "Dad I'm marrying into one of the richest families, don't talk to the press - ever. K bye see ya never!"

And Thom's cringey pap walk must've been a learning experience, because if he reads anywhere or asked a good person (i.e. with some brains for PR) how to proceed, then doing "woe is me/ I love my daughter/ honey please get in touch/ I fear for her life [look at Diana!]/ I might die any minute I just want to talk to my daughter" type of interviews without payment is exactly it. Don't look like you're cashing in and doing it for your own (financial) gain, but for love and a continued relationship.
Cause shutting his gob certainly doesn't seem to be on the menu.

^ Certainly trying to please Murky in some way to make her pick up the damn phone and see him once she flies to the US as she plans to do this summer.

PS Scuttling off into obscurity is exactly what Murky wants, so him blabbing is more likely for her to do sth (i.e. get in touch) than being quiet. If he disappeared into oblivion, she'd have what she wanted. Why would she reach out in that instance? He's doing what's more likely to force her into action.
Of course, she might be trying to "weather it out" and ignore it until the problem eventually goes away. Certainly not in the 1st year when media attention is due to be at its height. So we have at least 9 more months of fun ahead of us.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 29, 2018, 11:04:39 pm
Meghan Markle news: Royals FURIOUS at Meghan's father over Princess Diana comments
Buckingham Palace did not comment on Mr Markle's latest outburst.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/995953/Meghan-Markle-Royal-Family-Princess-Diana-Prince-Harry-latest-news-Thomas-Markle
They'll not get a rise out of the royal famiy as Meg's isn't one of the family, so she and her dad and co might as well give up on this course of action.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 29, 2018, 11:25:39 pm
Meghan Markle's dad Thomas took drugs while raising teenage daughter 'to cope with pressures of Hollywood'
The 74-year-old insisted that he hadn't touched drugs - which were “part and parcel” of the TV industry - in more than two decades


Thomas Markle has admitted he got high while raising his teenage daughter Meghan.

The former lighting director said in an ­interview: “I don’t do drugs, haven’t for more than 20 years.”


A source insisted drugs were “part and parcel” of the TV industry and added: “Tom was no different.”

Markle Snr turned to drugs to cope with the pressures of life in Hollywood and to give daughter Meghan a better life, it is claimed.

The 74-year-old admitted he got high while the future duchess was young, but insisted he has not touched drugs since.

He was asked in an interview about claims he is an alcoholic and replied: “I hardly drink at all, just a little wine with my dinner, nothing much.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/meghan-markles-dad-thomas-took-13001688


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on July 29, 2018, 11:39:35 pm
I can actually imagine that he wasn't paid, simply so that when word gets out he can't be accused of "cashing in" but look like he's doing what he's doing for exactly the reasons he says: his daughter cut him off but he doesn't understand and wants contact.

There's also no spin at all in terms of payment, either he was paid or he wasn't. Payment in advance or afterwards can no way ever be spun into "he wasn't paid for his latest interviews". Payment either occurred or it didn't, there's no inbetween, no spin.

So she lived with him for 7 years and praised him as father but as soon as some dumb rich idiot came along she dumped her dad faster than anyone can say "tiara".
I enjoy this circus actually and I think this goes well with her character, dropping people after reaching goals. :bored:
:gogirl: Agree 100%. If the media is saying he isnt being paid then he plainly is not. the media is always open about interviews based in $$$$


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 12:02:53 am
^  :thankyou: :) Exactly!

PS By payment I mean any type of payment: cash, endorsement, clothes etc etc. We all know that payments can be done in more ways than just good old cash..


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 30, 2018, 01:24:11 am
Tom will never tell. I doubt he does this for nothing. He is no humanitarian IMO. He is now 'famous' as well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 30, 2018, 04:30:23 am
Diana would have backed me, says Meghan’s father
“I think Meghan’s the one who’ll bring them into the 21st century, if they’ll let her.”    ???
Speaking about his son-in- law, he said yesterday: “I don’t care if Harry never speaks to me again. I’ll survive.”
He also criticised the Royal Family, adding: “Who cares these days about a dusty old crown?  bignono  
“Maybe it’s been polished, but it’s an ancient institution, stuck in its ways.
“Still, I think the Queen has worn that crown rather well, and I think Charles will wear it well too, he’ll be a good king.”
He begged his daughter to get back in touch, saying he will always love her.
“If Meghan never speaks to me again, I don’t know how I can go on without my heart breaking.
“I can see the strain Meghan’s under – it’s in her face.
“I’m really hurt that she’s cut me off completely.
“Perhaps it would be easier for Meghan if I died.
“Everybody would be filled with sympathy for her.
“But I hope we reconcile. I’d *despise* to die without speaking to Meghan again.”
The duchess is understood to be making plans to visit her mother, Doria Ragland, in Los Angeles this summer.
But she has no plans to see her father, according to reports.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/996002/meghan-markle-princess-diana-thomas-markle-cut-off-from-royal-family
To me it's obvious they're working together because the more he chats to the press, the more people feel sorry for her which to me is insane because she could just call him/visit him to ask him to keep quite and stop talking to the press. Working with the press isn't a crime that warrents Meg not speaking to her dad, so what's her excuse for not contacting. That's the question that people who feel sorry for her should be asking.
She acts like she's not an embarrassement and is an asset to the royal family. She needs to piss offback to thE us for her birthday because this scam surely has run it's course.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 30, 2018, 05:37:07 am
^The culmination of it all will be when she makes her "Hey, America! I'm back, snitches!" tour and we get grainy pap shots of her embracing him at a random coffee shop or leaving her mother's house following the "reconciliation meeting."


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on July 30, 2018, 07:06:47 am
So much gaslightning. Tom Sr is certainly working for Megan's PR. He doesn't have to get money from the media. Meggi is paying him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 10:16:54 am
^^ lol Yes, nailed it!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 30, 2018, 11:36:10 am
Why would she pay her father to bash her? I think Samantha and Tom Jr are egging him on.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 30, 2018, 12:24:56 pm
Thomas Markle admits he took drugs when Meghan was young, but says he 'hasn't taken any for 20 years' and barely touches a drop of alcohol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6005321/Thomas-Markle-admits-took-drugs-Meghan-young.html
The bashing keeps Meghan being the victim who Harry and the royal family should protect.  :bored: This game will continue on with her family with the royal family staying silent.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 30, 2018, 03:21:28 pm
^I think murky is in on it all, she is a very sly, nasty individual who will walk over anyone to get her own way.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 30, 2018, 03:45:58 pm
Exactly.  Every time the articles released about Murky are less then rosy, Thomas or another family member gets wheeled out in order for people to say what an awful family she has, I feel so sorry for her!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 30, 2018, 03:54:49 pm
IMO the murkles are all in on it.  The worse they make it for the rf the more she can scam them for.  She and her family are all nasty pieces of work and will keep going for as long as it takes, and they will sink lower and lower into the gutter, they are doing themselves no favours.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 30, 2018, 04:52:21 pm
'This guy sucks': Chrissy Teigen blasts Meghan's father Thomas Markle for his 'embarrassing' press interviews - and is promptly branded a 'pudgy airhead' by the Duchess's furious half-sister
The insults began flying on Twitter over the weekend, following the latest comments that Thomas Markle made about his daughter, his health, and the wider royal family to the press.
Chrissy, clearly fed up with his repeated cries for attention, complained about the 74-year-old in a tweet on Saturday — prompting Meghan's half-sister Samantha to go after the 32-year-old actress in return.
Unimpressed, Chrissy tweeted: 'This guy...this guy sucks. what is wrong with him? let your daughter be happy, please. this is embarrassing.'
Many of her followers were clearly in agreement, liking the tweet over 80,000 times and leaving comments.
But if Meghan thought her tweet would go unnoticed by the Markles — and uncommented on by the family's other outspoken member, sister Samantha — she was wrong.
On Sunday, Samantha, 53, took to Twitter to fire off her own response, though she mistakenly tagged the wrong Twitter handle in her tweet.
'So this pudgy airhead @Christinetiegen Who knows nobody in the family is opening her pie hole? "This guy" is our father and deserves a lot of respect,.. you are the one who sucks [sic],' she wrote.
On Monday morning she spoke out again, this time to hit out at another member of the royal family - Lady Gabriella Windsor.
Referring to a Vanity Fair interview with Gabriella's ex-boyfriend Aatish Taseer that was published in April, in which he revealed made scandalous claims about life within the royal family, Samantha wrote: 'Don't disparage the Markle family unless you also print that no family is perfect including this one.'
Highlighting a claim made by Taseer that members of the royal family 'swam naked' in the Queen's swimming pool and 'took MDMA at Windsor Castle', Samantha then branded it 'trailer trash behavior'.
'I would call that trailer trash behavior so don't insult the Markle family unless you are perfect, and by the looks of things I would say it's best you don't sling mud,' she wrote, before finishing off her tweet: 'Back off your PR *fools*.'
She also tweeted: 'Oddly we are in a world where people are terrified of pointing out that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes LOL.
'I will be the first to point it out, that is my nature, and whoever doesn't like it... tsk tsk step aside.'  
Samantha — who has herself retained a PR firm to handle media requests in the wake of her sister's relationship — has not seen Meghan in over a decade, and last spoke to her on the phone in 2015.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6007173/Chrissy-Teigen-slams-Thomas-Markle-Meghans-sister-Samantha-fires-back.html
Trust that bottom feeder Chrissy Teigen to get into the frey. It’s not the father that sucks, it’s Meghan as it’s her speciality in her “trade”.  :cookie:
Notice that Samantha has retained a pr firm for herself. This is indeed a scam to make money and will continue on as long as the dad and the rest of the Markle’s keep attacking people and having talentless people like Chrissy getting into it with them on social media. Isn’t this cyber bullying? What will Samantha’s pr agent suggest they do next to keep the media interested in her and this nonsense?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 30, 2018, 05:26:59 pm
Chrissy Teigen: best friend of Kim Kardashian and trolled her own husband on Twitter or Instagram or whatever.  Says it all really.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 30, 2018, 05:43:43 pm
^Chrissy Teigen: The same grown woman who tweeted insults about a 10-year old child actress that she had never met.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 30, 2018, 05:59:50 pm
^Come to think of it, wasn't she also a Deal or No Deal briefcase girl?  The plot thickens...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 30, 2018, 06:00:39 pm
Why Thomas Markle has left his daughter no choice
THOMAS Markle has failed so spectacularly as a father that he only has himself to blame if Meghan never talks to him again.


THOMAS Markle has left his daughter no choice.

He may be “hurt,” as he claims.

He may feel his daughter is ignoring him.

And he may be genuine — though somewhat melodramatic — when he says she’d be better off if he were to die.

But the father of the newly titled Duchess of Sussex has failed so spectacularly in being the sort of parent she needs that he has only himself to blame if she never sees him again.

Following Markle’s meandering and self-pitying rant in the UK’s Mail on Sunday yesterday, in which he manages to insult not only his daughter, but Prince Harry and the Queen to boot, Meghan’s only option is to give up on the dad she once loved.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/why-thomas-markle-has-left-his-daughter-no-choice/news-story/67b4e7c962b874559303ee0d05528c93


TRUE.he keeps yapping to the press what ever chance he and Meghan had to start talking is long gone now


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 30, 2018, 06:07:59 pm
^^Yes, she was on Deal or No Deal.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on July 30, 2018, 07:09:33 pm
How long before the Markle gig is up?  Given that the BRF cannot legally shut up Americans, I’m wondering how long this marriage lasts.  BRF must privately be saying, “We’re in a tight spot!” (regards to O Brother Where Art Thou)

 :-X


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on July 30, 2018, 07:57:32 pm
^^^^^ What?

Poor PH has another looney imitating him. On twitter PRINCEHEARRYWALES9 claims to be the real deal. He followed me. I asked him who he is supposed to be so he blocked me! Jajaja. Pathetic, really. lol


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on July 30, 2018, 08:49:16 pm
The drama will restart when they have a kid... I can imagine what a mess it will be.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 30, 2018, 09:50:16 pm
Why Thomas Markle has left his daughter no choice
THOMAS Markle has failed so spectacularly as a father that he only has himself to blame if Meghan never talks to him again.


THOMAS Markle has left his daughter no choice.

He may be “hurt,” as he claims.

He may feel his daughter is ignoring him.

And he may be genuine — though somewhat melodramatic — when he says she’d be better off if he were to die.

But the father of the newly titled Duchess of Sussex has failed so spectacularly in being the sort of parent she needs that he has only himself to blame if she never sees him again.

Following Markle’s meandering and self-pitying rant in the UK’s Mail on Sunday yesterday, in which he manages to insult not only his daughter, but Prince Harry and the Queen to boot, Meghan’s only option is to give up on the dad she once loved.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/why-thomas-markle-has-left-his-daughter-no-choice/news-story/67b4e7c962b874559303ee0d05528c93


TRUE.he keeps yapping to the press what ever chance he and Meghan had to start talking is long gone now


He needs to chill out for a while. Think things through before rushing to the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 30, 2018, 10:28:14 pm
A brilliant article by the irrepressible Sarah Whalen

https://www.bayoubuzz.com/bb/donald-trump-news-today/donald-trump-news/item/1063525-trump-and-meghan-s-got-titles-should-thomas-markle-get-one-too


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on July 30, 2018, 10:40:46 pm
^Brilliant indeed!  And soooooo American.  Thank you for posting it.   :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on July 30, 2018, 11:22:54 pm
Well she said it well.  and I understand the Kardashian effect but I'm still in shock that people are talking about white trash.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 11:25:48 pm
^^^ Personal highlights are for me
"England pretends to be a democracy, but it’s really a monarchy wherein the monarchy has far more personal power than is usually openly acknowledged.  The Queen has a lot of secret power that nobody talks about.  Not yet.  Not openly.  But it’s like when POTUS Donald Trump came to visit, and the British got all worked up because supposedly the Queen was supposed to walk first, but then Trump walked first.  And then, there was the whole mish-mash about whether Trump had insulted the Queen by arriving too late or too early. Brits got so agitated! And all the while, Londoners who failed to get up early and vote against Brexit and lost thought they’d be creative and fly a mocking balloon of Trump around."

"Meghan’s half-sister, the irrepressible Samantha (unlike Meghan, Samantha has no need for an identifying last name)" :tehe:

^ Like a car crash, shouldn't look, but can't look away either... It's most unfortunate...

PS also the Doria bits lol great piece, good find Val!

PPS and calling out Murky on her fake humanitarianism and spending!

"Perhaps we can even buy him an aristocratic title.  Yes—English titles CAN be bought! Scottish and Irish ones, too.  Just ask Pippa Middleton’s in-laws." lols


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on July 31, 2018, 12:30:17 pm
Meghan Markle 'is at her wits' end over her father's public outbursts' - but Kate 'has been a pillar of support amid family drama after the pair bonded over tea and tennis
The Duchess of Sussex has maintained a dignified silence around her father's public outbursts, but behind closed doors she is said to be 'at her wits' end'.
Meghan, 36, has been accused of 'cutting off' Thomas Markle in a spate of media interviews and according to royal correspondent Katie Nicholl she has been turning to her sister-in-law for support.
Writing in Vanity Fair, Nicholl revealed that Meghan sees Kate as a 'pillar of support' in her new life behind palace walls - and Harry is said to be 'relieved' that they have forged a close alliance.
The two duchesses' blossoming friendship was evident in pictures of them watching Wimbledon together earlier this month.
One source noted that Kate is 'well aware' of what the newbie royal is going through and has 'made a big effort to be kind to Meghan and look out for her'.
Another insider added: 'Kate’s made a real effort to be kind to Meghan and to include her. They’re quite different characters but they get along well.'
The two women, both 36, are said to have bonded over their love of dogs, tennis and the great outdoors - with Kate recommending the services of British designer Emilia Wickstead to her new sister-in-law.  
The source told how Kate invites Meghan to her apartment at Kensington Palace for tea, with the two women speaking on the phone once a week.
They added: '[Kate] has made an effort with Meghan. She’s been very sympathetic to what’s been going on with Meghan and her dad.'
It comes after retired lighting director Thomas, 74, told the Mail on Sunday he has not spoken to his 'beloved Bean' Meghan for more than ten weeks.
Thomas - who has never met his son-in-law - claims the rift is 'punishment' for him staging fake paparazzi pictures before the wedding.
He said: 'I'm really hurt that she's cut me off completely. I used to have a phone number and text number for her personal aides at the Palace, but after I said a few critical words about the Royal Family changing Meghan, they cut me off.
'Those numbers were disconnected, they no longer work. I have no way of contacting my daughter.
'It's her birthday on August 4 and I want to send her a card. But if I send a birthday card to Kensington Palace, or wherever she's living now, it'll just be one among thousands. She'll probably never see it.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6010131/Meghan-Markle-sees-Kate-Middleton-pillar-support.html
Pure bs. Meghan getting all dramatic over her dad talking to the press when she’s done far worse than him. Her VF interview and photo shoot and everything after that that. Waity only has posh friends so this whole article’s a lie, IMO.




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on July 31, 2018, 12:40:17 pm
It's laughable to me how some journalists claim to "know" how Meghan "thinks" and is at her "wit's end." And using such dramatic prose like "pillar of support" and "bond over tea and tennis." Slow news day I think.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on July 31, 2018, 01:03:07 pm
^^ Yeah I bet those two get along just fine. BFFs. Like water and oil. What bs. :ick: I bet they never see each other except when they have to.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 31, 2018, 04:46:15 pm
^^^More BS hand delivered by her PR team.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on July 31, 2018, 06:55:50 pm
A brilliant article by the irrepressible Sarah Whalen

https://www.bayoubuzz.com/bb/donald-trump-news-today/donald-trump-news/item/1063525-trump-and-meghan-s-got-titles-should-thomas-markle-get-one-too


This was a really good read. I laughed so hard at how Sarah described Meghan's wedding dress: "Meghan wore a dress that looked like a Halloween ghost costume pinned together with sheets that cost something like half a million dollars—an odd choice for a woman who claims to be a professional humanitarian..."

 I can't unsee it now!  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on July 31, 2018, 11:17:04 pm
OMG Not Sarah again.!!! She's an absolute hoot!!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on July 31, 2018, 11:39:06 pm
^^^

Isn’t waity in Mustique on yet another holiday?  So much for being there for Megan!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 01, 2018, 01:02:22 am
^Too funny.  As if she gives a rip about Magnet Meg.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 01:47:34 am
I hope this will be the week that this scammer and her family are done and dusted. :cookie:
Meghan Markle WARNING: Palace must ACT NOW as her desperate dad 'won't stop', says expert
MEGHAN Markle must get Buckingham Palace to act immediately because her desperate father Thomas is unlikely to stop speaking out in the media, an expert claimed.
James Brookes, a Royal commentator and correspondent, speaking exclusively to express.co.uk, believes a line of communication must be opened to halt the interviews.
He said: “I think, for a lot of people, the whole Thomas Markle furore is coming across as self-inflicted. Many are looking at the comments with a sense of disbelief and there’s been a ‘well, obviously’ response to them.
“If what Thomas is saying is true and communication has broken down between the pair, then it’s quite easy to see why.
“While he’s complaining that's hurtful, you can also argue that his persistent desire to talk to the press about her life is very hurtful to Meghan, and that’s why she/the Palace have put up the shutters.
“We have to remember that many of Thomas’ comments in his GMB interview related to very intimate and personal parts of somebody’s life and I can’t think of many people who would want that information airing on such a public platform - especially when it’s a family member who’s airing them and, because of her new royal position, her hands are more tied than others when it comes to responding.
“But, while there’s no response or recourse from the Palace, it seems likely the comments will keep on coming.
"That’s why it boasts an interesting question for the press too. Even if the comments are hurtful to their subject, some editors will argue that with no acknowledgement or evidence of this from the Palace, they’re fair game to publish and use.
“But it puts into perspective why the Markle’s still keep talking; in today’s world inflammatory comments - for better or worse - make people sit up and listen or read.
“People click on the stories because they want the gossip and so there’s an argument that’s why the Markles are doing it; because they know they have a platform and can milk it.
“I think many would say, if reconciliation is what the Markles really want, they wouldn’t have gone down this route.
“They would be trying to sort this privately with Meghan and her aides.
“But, unless the Palace release a statement detailing any help they might have previously offered Thomas Markle that he might have refused plus any rebuke of his comments, we’ll be seeing a lot more of this kind of tittle-tattle.”
Mr Markle has carried out a series of controversial interviews since his daughter Meghan became engaged to Prince Harry last year.
In his latest rant, the retired lighting director accused his daughter of cutting him out of her life and claimed the Royal Family were trying to "silence" him.
He even dragged Princess Diana into the row by saying the late princess would have "loathed" the way he has been treated.
Speaking to the Mail on Sunday, Mr Markle said: "I tell you, I've just about reached my limit with Meghan and the Royal Family.
"They want me to be silent, they want me to just go away. But I won't be silenced. I refuse to stay quiet.
"They have Meghan treating her father in a way that Harry's mother Princess Diana would have loathed.
"That's not what Diana stood for. Princess Diana is credited with changing the Royal Family but she wasn't perfect.
"She was still very much one of them. I think Meghan's the one who'll bring them into the 21st century, if they'll let her."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/996868/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Royal-news-Thomas-Markle-interview-reaction


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Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 01, 2018, 03:23:54 am
No such luck . This awful woman and her family will be around for a while.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 03:55:24 am
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ffe250a0fc1aaa19904bbf81af0a362f/tumblr_inline_pcrcytMIXh1vh0s4w_1280.jpg


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 04:16:57 am
sorry, timed out.
^you're probably right, but I doubt it'll be in the same capacity. This madness with her and her family is making the reporters talk and question what's going on. Doria, her mum, was brought into the mess that had that statement issued. I agree that she built up the narrative to get that statement issued and act like Harry's girlfriend. It was priceless what her agenda was when the next day after the statement was issued, she was seen trapsing around the Four Seasons Hotel with an expensive blue bag and making asene with er friend Markus; ladies doing lunch. She was after the fame and money from day one.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ffe250a0fc1aaa19904bbf81af0a362f/tumblr_inline_pcrcytMIXh1vh0s4w_1280.jpg
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176500326923/skippy-what-is-the-statement-or-complaint-not
 
August, the royal family goes off for their holiday's, so it'd be the perfect time to unavel in the press what's really going on and have an exit happen for this whole lot. Come September, I can't see Megs around because it'd be hard to believe that Harry really picked up this unsuitable chick with all her baggage and innuendoes of being a trick for hire, as his wife and thrusting her into the royal and the public as a representative.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 01, 2018, 05:04:04 am
Something big is about to happen, and it won't  be pretty.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 01, 2018, 11:14:47 am
Insiders are saying the  DM are withholding comments saying that Thomas Markle is a saint compared to pimping, cocaine snorting, wife beating Uncle Gary.  The Middletons are in Mustique chortling with delight and raising their glasses at the latest situation which takes the focus off their trashy family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 01, 2018, 11:42:06 am
A comment from the DM

Supporters of Thomas Markle watch this space as a Go Fund Me page is being set up to buy him a title.  His fan club is almost up and running too.   Keep watching.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 12:17:19 pm
Meghan Markle so ‘DEEPLY HURT’ by father Thomas Markle the Queen might get involved
ight get involved
MEGHAN MARKLE is “deeply hurt” by the explosive accusations her father Thomas Markle has made against her, to the point that her welfare has become top of the agenda in Buckingham Palace, with Her Majesty the Queen considering getting involved, sources have claimed.
The retired TV lighting director, 74, gave an interview to the Mail on Sunday, in which he claimed the Duchess of Sussex has shut him out of her life and accused her of having a “sense of superiority”.
It has now been claimed Royal aides are plotting to silence Thomas Markle and that advisers have held at least three top-level crisis meetings on how to stop him distressing his daughter.
A source close to Buckingham Palace told the Mirror: “Meghan is deeply hurt by what is happening and everything is being done behind the scenes to make sure her welfare is at the top of the agenda.
“It’s an increasingly desperate ­situation and now it’s come down to three options being on the table.
“It’s an increasingly desperate ­situation and now it’s come down to three options being on the table.
“Firstly, Meghan could contact her father straight away and appeal to him directly to ask him to stop hurting her, but right now she’s decided to cut him off.
“There is a possibility an ­intermediary could meet with him and appeal to him to stop making such hurtful ­statements.
“The final option would be for Meghan to cut him off completely in the hope he will stop, but the ­situation is so precarious no one knows when that would be.”
Phil Dampier, who has been writing about the Royal family for 26 years also commented on the situation and claimed that “it is getting out of control”.
He added: “If this carries on I wouldn’t be surprised if the Queen herself gets involved and bangs a few heads together.”
In the wake of her estranged father’s explosive rants to the media, Meghan has been reportedly leaning on her sister-in-law Kate, Duchess of Cambridge, who has been a “pillar of support”.
A royal source said: “Kate’s well aware of what Meghan is going through.
“Her family has been dragged through the tabloids and she knows it’s not nice. She’s made a big effort to be kind to Meghan and look out for her."
Meghan has had to deal with a number of family dramas since her relationship with Prince Harry.
Samantha Markle, Meghan’s half-sister, has also reportedly not spoken to the Duchess in years and continues to lambast her half-sister in TV interviews.
She recently branded the Royal Family an “embarrassment” and warned she would hold Meghan responsible if their father dies.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/997179/Meghan-Markle-hurt-father-thomas-markle-queen-elizabeth-royal-news-queen-interview-latest
All this drama’s unnecessary and can be resolved by her going back to America and talk to him. The queen should suggest that she do that because members of the royal family’s being brought into it like Waity and now the queen. Who next. This is disruptive and people are getting weary of the matter.
Reporters are finally questioning things and it’s now gone to how Harry’s Amsterdam visit was covered.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/image/176511345963
When things are now effecting Harry’s patronage that need press coverage, yeah, this trick’s got to go as well as her drama.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: india on August 01, 2018, 12:50:23 pm
^^^The focus will never be off The Middletons. NEVER. We all know what they did. And we will never forget. When you get down to it nothing The Markles can do will ever be as bad as them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 01:48:42 pm
^exactly, because they’re British and knows what the monarchy stands for and should’ve known better. Meghan and her family’s trash and IMO, has been used by the royal family as distraction, pr and hopefully tightening the laws of how they’re being used by celebrities and hangers-on.
Queen stepping in to the drama is in the DM.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6014097/Palace-aides-hold-crisis-meetings-Thomas-Markles-behaviour.html#comments


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 01, 2018, 03:31:05 pm
This is all getting too weird it almost makes me think the Illuminati put her in for some weird reason that has to do with undoing the monarchy


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 01, 2018, 03:35:23 pm
Or it could be just that Haz is a complete and utter thicko.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 01, 2018, 03:59:02 pm
 :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 04:00:29 pm
All of this outrage towards the dad and people being sympathetic towards Meghan could be a ploy to finally out Meghan cooperating with the press as she’s given tips to Omid Scobie, Mio, about engagements and stuff. Remember that he used to report engagements before KP did. Now he’s talking to Town&Country regarding Meghan being allowed to be a brides made at her Bollywood actress friend. I posted in the Harry/Meghan thread that the press is being kept further away from her during engagements and aren’t happy about that. It’s overdue to have her and her family gone from the scene and as stated before, this is the month to do it. What has she brought to the royal family; expensive clothing bills with rumours of embezzlement, family’ drama, political issues because of her opinionated big mouth, the down market of the monarchy and have Harry live up to him being a dim witted dummy for bringing this trash into the palace.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 01, 2018, 04:21:09 pm
I don't think the Firm will allow Turkey to be a bridesmaid for her actress friend. They already know she has a big mouth, hence royal reporters told to keep their distance so she can't be overheard. Given all the  :BS: she has caused the royals in just a couple of months, I doubt they will allow it.

There really isn't much they can do to keep a lid on Thomas. Not legally, anyway. But very very soon someone will be forced to show his or her hand and it's going to be spectacular.  And I can't wait!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 01, 2018, 04:23:37 pm
This is such a colossal mess. Harry is such a dang fool for bringing this woman into his family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 01, 2018, 05:57:10 pm
The Queen has no power over Thomas.  That’s way out of her jurisdiction and she should have seen it coming before she allowed the wedding.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 06:11:27 pm
^true, but since she’s being built up as having a nice bond with strumpet Meghan, she can suggest that she visit her dad. This fear of her dad telling the press of their conversation makes no sense because all she’ll be doing is to ask him to stop talking to the press about her. If things continue on and Thomas isn’t part of her scam, then he’ll tell if she was married prior to Trevor and other rumours that surrounds her. It’s hard to figure out what’s going on because Thomas is making money otherwise why bother? Meghan blaming the palace also makes no sense since that’s her family’s that’s making trouble.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 01, 2018, 06:20:29 pm
^Oh I agree with you.  MeAgain is the only one HM has any power over in this scummy mess.  She should have MM put on a plane and escorted to her Father.

Lock the gates USA and don’t let her out again. Please!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 01, 2018, 06:25:49 pm
^Are ya nuts?!  We don’t need another greedy fruitcake here but thanks anyway.  See ya don’t wanna be ya, Sparkles! 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 01, 2018, 07:02:26 pm
^^The US doesn't want or need her. Maybe Toronto can welcome her. She already knows the celebrity shefs and the Trudeaus. And Soho house is there.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 01, 2018, 07:33:13 pm
This is all getting too weird it almost makes me think the Illuminati put her in for some weird reason that has to do with undoing the monarchy
Not the illuminati but someone else hiding in the  dark who wouldn't mind if people believed the illuminati did. Misinformation works sometimes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 01, 2018, 08:37:22 pm
EXCLUSIVE: 'There's NO chance now!' Reconciliation between Meghan Markle and her father will never happen, reveals friend who says problems existed BEFORE she met Prince Harry
A reconciliation between Meghan Markle and her father Thomas Markle Sr, 74, has 'no chance' of happening at present, DailyMail.com has learned.
The Duchess of Sussex, who celebrates her 37th birthday on Saturday, is said to have been left 'amazed' by his most recent antics – which include telling the Mail on Sunday that she would be better off 'if I was dead'.
He went on to say that Princess Diana would have 'loathed' the way he is being treated and admitted to taking drugs 20 years ago but said: 'I don't care if Harry never speaks to me again, I'll survive.'
Despite his harsh words for the prince, 33, Markle Sr. said he would be left 'heartbroken' if youngest daughter Meghan never spoke to him again.
Now a source close to the former Suits actress has told DailyMail.com that a reconciliation is unlikely to happen any time soon and said the pair have had problems for years.
'A reconciliation is completely off the table at the moment,' the close friend said. 'There's no chance right now - he's been a complete embarrassment.
'They've had problems for some time – from before she met Prince Harry.'
The source added: 'She's amazed by what's happened but is taking what he says with a grain of salt.
'The Royal Family isn't as upset as you'd think either. Nothing any of them [the Markle family] say has any real consequence and they [Meghan and Harry] have more important things to focus on.'
DailyMail.com has approached Kensington Palace for comment.
In his most recent interview, Markle Sr also complained of being 'cut off' by his daughter and admitted that they haven't spoken for 10 weeks.
He said he wanted to send Meghan a card for her birthday on Saturday but claimed that 'it'll just be on among thousands' and she may 'never see it'.
The former lighting director added: 'I thought about sending it by Priority Mail Express, but the Palace would probably just soak it in water for three days to make sure it doesn't explode.'
Meghan is set to spend her first birthday as a member of the Royal Family at the wedding of one of Harry's closest friends, Charlie Van Straubenzee.
Van Straubenzee, 37, who will wed film maker Daisy Jenks in Surrey, England, on Saturday, has been pals with the prince since they attended prep school in Berkshire together and took on the role of usher at Harry and Meghan's wedding in May.
One man who didn't make it was Markle Sr who pulled out days before the wedding claiming to have suffered a heart attack.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6016101/Meghan-Markle-father-never-reconcile-friend-claims.html
When will this crap end?  Time fr daddy then to confess to her marriage before Trevor and all her other things she wants to stay hidden. Go for broke and wife that smug look off her face as her dirty laundry isaired in public as we the British people have a right to know what she’s about as she’s representing us and the royal family.
I’ll have to research it, but I do remember a politician saying that Harry’s wedding will be a one-off. I believe that was stated in August of last year at which it was scoffed off by me thinking that this trolop will no way marry into the royal family. If he knew then, then this is a set up as Meghan most likely was an escort and had politicians for clients and has to go through this ruse in order to control her ‘from the inside’ and have her shut down from talking about it, IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 01, 2018, 09:51:31 pm
Was this alleged 'close friend' at the wedding?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 02, 2018, 12:16:22 am
Markle invoking Diana is a bit much. IMO. And it's his business if he took drugs, the whole world does not have to know it. His ranting about Meghan will get tiresome after a while IMO. This all needs to quiet down and maybe something can be done without the media being alerted to it with regular bulletins.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 02, 2018, 12:29:02 am
I, for one, will never tire of the miscellaneous ramblings of Thomas Markle.  He doesn't know it, but he's great entertainment. He and ALL his crotchfruit can't seem to keep their lies straight.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 02, 2018, 04:06:46 am
Meghan Markle just waiting for the next bombshell
MEGHAN Markle is putting on a brave face as she is harassed by members of her own family, and is living with the constant threat they will say something destructive about her, says a royal biographer.
The Duchess of Sussex not only has to deal with the pressures of being one of the most famous women in the world, she must do so while deflecting the worsening behaviour of close family.
It seems they will continue to stalk her by speaking out against her — and her royal in-laws — until they get what they want. Things have gotten so bad that palace aides have reportedly had three top-level crisis meetings about how to deal with her family, particularly her father.
In his latest tirade, Thomas Markle claimed Meghan changed her phone number and was sending him “mixed messages”, dismissed the royals as a “Monty Python sketch” and accused his daughter of having a “sense of superiority”.
Veteran royal watcher Phil Dampier, author of Royally Suited: Harry and Meghan in their Own Words, told news.com.au: “Harry and Meghan have tried ignoring the Markles, but it’s not working. Before things get even more embarrassing for the royal family, they must try to build bridges.
“Ideally, they should go out and see Thomas or invite him over to London. It is incredible that Harry still hasn’t met his father-in-law. At the very least, a senior courtier should go out and placate him first.”
Dampier said the problem stemmed from poor Palace judgement from the start. “They should have gone out and befriended Thomas and his children long before the wedding. This is now hurting the monarchy and I wouldn’t be surprised if behind the scenes the Queen is starting to bang a few heads together.”
Sources told Britain’s Daily Mirror Meghan now had three options — speak to him directly and ask him to stop, get an intermediary to meet with him, or cut him off for good in a desperate hope he will stop. “This could be the final straw for Thomas. A line has been crossed.”
Royal commentator Angela Levin, author of new Prince Harry biography Harry: Conversations With The Prince, told news.com.au Meghan would be putting on a brave front, but would be troubled by her father’s antics — and on edge at what could be coming next.
“It must be desperately upsetting to Meghan, who I think is a very good actor at putting on a good face, but she must be very hurt.
“She was very close to her father and she did want him to walk her down the aisle. For him to do that has made her speechless psychologically and physically — she can’t say anything to him now.”
Levin said the Duchess of Sussex would not be able to speak to her dad about plans to have a baby or things she has discussed with Prince Harry.
It is also set to be a massive distraction for Meghan as she works to find her place in the royal family and achieve her goals.  :tehe:
But Levin does not believe the Markles are going to stop.
https://www.couriermail.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/meghan-markle-just-waiting-for-the-next-bombshell/news-story/13f31fbddf0234ef0490c1f5e173972
This is beyond dumb and something has to give to put an end to this and Meg booted back to the states. I think she's scared of leaving the UK because she'll not gain entry back due to visa issues, imo.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 02, 2018, 04:27:26 am
^Oh, all this can be tied up neatly with a 'visa issue'.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 02, 2018, 05:28:21 am
^Or a toe-sucking level scandal.

^^I still think they are all in on it but, in the even that they aren't, ignoring them isn't going to make anything die down. Cutting them off is exactly what got us to this juncture. Besides, I think there is a heck of a lot more that can come out. If there weren't more bombshells there wouldn't be anything for her to wait for, right?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 02, 2018, 06:00:32 pm
So, let me get this right.   She is literally speechless?  Physically left mute?

Pathetic journalism at it’s finest.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 02, 2018, 06:54:12 pm
Article on why Meghan’s remained silent amidst her dad’s rants to the press.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176547422583/you-wont-believe-this-nowshe-doesnt-have
She doesn’t have a publicist? Surely that’s a lie given all the bs articles/gaslighting that’s in the press and social media on a daily basis.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 02, 2018, 08:15:00 pm
^No publicist? That's the funniest thing I've read all day!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 02, 2018, 10:55:04 pm
I decided to watch The Talk today and I had no idea that Piers Morgan was going to be on it as their "top talker" in which he was there to talk about Megs relationship with her dad.

"This is somebody who cuts people dead, bang."  :o I adore Piers!  :thumbsup:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RH7eErB-Q



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 02, 2018, 11:27:56 pm
^  :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup:
Good that he says it as it is :tehe:

I wonder... Will she one day cut Haz loose in that fashion of hers?  :June:

She's literally cut everyone in her life loose!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 02, 2018, 11:31:40 pm
We'll know the deal when we see an Instagram post of a single banana.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 02, 2018, 11:32:10 pm
^ One can only hope ...

Pierce used to be an advocate for Meg and now he flipped like Samantha ... I'm on the fense about him. He might still be part of her PR plan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 02, 2018, 11:37:07 pm
I think Piers is a waffler and flip flopper. He does not appear to have consistent opinions. The Markles would be Larry King Territory if he still had his TV show.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 02, 2018, 11:49:31 pm
Look at Sharon backpedaling like that


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 03, 2018, 12:04:42 am
^Yea, I heard that too. Sharon assumed like an idiot that Thomas has an alcohol problem just because he is publicly asking his daughter to contact him, how else should be go about it if she changed phone numbers.  :dontknow:

The comments on that YouTube video are scathing against Piers, too many Meg sugars on YouTube just like Celebitchy  :ick:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 03, 2018, 12:19:47 am
One of the services of PR companies is to offer troll farms that defend their client no matter what. If youtibe was to close the fake accounts just like twitter did - it would.be amazing.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 03, 2018, 01:10:29 am
I decided to watch The Talk today and I had no idea that Piers Morgan was going to be on it as their "top talker" in which he was there to talk about Megs relationship with her dad.

"This is somebody who cuts people dead, bang."  :o I adore Piers!  :thumbsup:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RH7eErB-Q



Piers is a misogynistic windbag. Meg's relationship with her Dad shows how she treats anybody, really. Her father apparently gave her everything growing up and this is how she repays him? Glad she's being exposed for the low-brow and nasty creature she really is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 03, 2018, 01:26:18 am
Larry King retired. But he surely would have had the Markles on his call in show. They probably would have been seen and heard on his show more than anyone else's.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 03, 2018, 01:26:38 am
I decided to watch The Talk today and I had no idea that Piers Morgan was going to be on it as their "top talker" in which he was there to talk about Megs relationship with her dad.

"This is somebody who cuts people dead, bang."  :o I adore Piers!  :thumbsup:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RH7eErB-Q



Piers is a misogynistic windbag. Meg's relationship with her Dad shows how she treats anybody, really. Her father apparently gave her everything growing up and this is how she repays him? Glad she's being exposed for the low-brow and nasty creature she really is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 03, 2018, 07:36:05 am
I


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 03, 2018, 07:56:29 am
^Wait for an article how she is distressed, misses her dad and can't wait to reunite with him


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 03, 2018, 02:58:03 pm
I, for one, will never tire of the miscellaneous ramblings of Thomas Markle.  He doesn't know it, but he's great entertainment. He and ALL his crotchfruit can't seem to keep their lies straight.

Crotchfruit?!!? Is this another term for saying his children are nutters?  :dontknow: It sounds,um, well... :tehe: but maybe it's just I don't understand?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 03, 2018, 03:07:12 pm
I understand completely the world has gone mad. Americans not have put Trump in the White House and although we didn't put Meghan and the marbles in the Royal Family they are American and represent America on some level it's terrible.... we really have so much better to offer the world than these horrible horrible people


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 04, 2018, 02:13:25 am
^We really do and it's so embarrassing.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 04, 2018, 02:12:15 pm
Samantha Markle continues her bitter feud with half-sister 'Meg', telling the Duchess to spend her birthday sending their father Thomas a 'belated card' two weeks after he turned 74
Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha wished the duchess a happy birthday on Twitter alongside a snide reminder to send a belated birthday card to their father Thomas.  
Meghan's notoriously outspoken half-sister sent her regards on Twitter just a few minutes before midnight in the UK, writing: 'Happy Birthday Meg! It would be so lovely and appropriate of you to send DAD a BELATED birthday card for his July 18th [cake emoji] @KensingtonRoyal Cheers!'
Samantha shared an article on Twitter that claimed the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were 'taking a step away from the media spotlight', writing: 'OK so Cruella de Vil is retreating LOL.
'Let me know how that works out for you.'
For her birthday, Markle is reportedly planning to celebrate in Surrey at the wedding of Daisy Jenks and Charlie Van Straubenzee, one of Prince Harry's best friends who also served as an usher at the Royal Wedding.
Per Royal tradition, birthdays are usually low-key affairs celebrated at home. A notable exception is Queen Elizabeth II, who celebrates two birthdays in April and June.
August 4 is also notable in the Royal Family as its marks what would've been the 118th birthday of the late Queen Mother, who was born on that date in 1900.  
For her birthday, Markle is reportedly planning to celebrate in Surrey at the wedding of Daisy Jenks and Charlie Van Straubenzee, one of Prince Harry's best friends who also served as an usher at the Royal Wedding.
Per Royal tradition, birthdays are usually low-key affairs celebrated at home. A notable exception is Queen Elizabeth II, who celebrates two birthdays in April and June.
August 4 is also notable in the Royal Family as its marks what would've been the 118th birthday of the late Queen Mother, who was born on that date in 1900.  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6025533/Samantha-Markle-wishes-half-sister-Meg-happy-birthday.html
She really wants to be on Celebrity Big Brother and stay in the press with her rants. Hopefully it’s not a lie that Meghan won’t be seen for a while, so Samantha’s wasting her time because this sh*t show should be coming to an end with these grifters back into the shadows.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 04, 2018, 03:03:04 pm
I think during this alleged 'hiding' phase we are going to see more of the Markles. Why? It keeps Murky's name in the papers. If/when this happens, then it's proof to me they are all working together.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 04, 2018, 04:01:27 pm
That makes perfect sense God I can't stand her or her family. And now I'm beginning to dislike the royal family for being such idiots. The British people really deserve better.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 04, 2018, 08:01:01 pm
I understand completely the world has gone mad. Americans not have put Trump in the White House and although we didn't put Meghan and the marbles in the Royal Family they are American and represent America on some level it's terrible.... we really have so much better to offer the world than these horrible horrible people

 :thankyou: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 04, 2018, 08:10:53 pm
The way I understand the latest news is: QE forbid MM to embarrass centuries old institution with her horid taste followed by diplomatic disaaters when she opens her mouth. The official version being: Harry is super protective.

MM's responce: crank up the family feud (the rest of the Markles being in on it for the money).

My question now is: what would QE do?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 04, 2018, 08:38:51 pm
Button her up on many levels.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 04, 2018, 09:21:22 pm
The way I understand the latest news is: QE forbid MM to embarrass centuries old institution with her horid taste followed by diplomatic disaaters when she opens her mouth. The official version being: Harry is super protective.

MM's responce: crank up the family feud (the rest of the Markles being in on it for the money).

My question now is: what would QE do?

It sounds like a game of chicken.  :cookie:  I'm on Team Queen (the real deal and not the drama queen).


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 04, 2018, 09:38:52 pm
When does the cream pie throwing start?  This entire family is horrid but quite entertaining.  If the BRF were either arrogant or stupid enough to think this was manageable, they were dead wrong.  Money won’t stop this.  This is a culture/class war.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 04, 2018, 10:04:04 pm
The BF think they have to cater to Willy and Harry - they don't realize the world is just not that enamoured with them anymore. I hope the RF go to town on the gauche-climbing phonies and embarrassments these two married.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 04, 2018, 10:35:49 pm
When does the cream pie throwing start?  This entire family is horrid but quite entertaining.  If the BRF were either arrogant or stupid enough to think this was manageable, they were dead wrong.  Money won’t stop this.  This is a culture/class war.
Your post made me think of The Three Stooges!  I agree it is class war (amongst other things) and I am thoroughly disgusted with these upstarts lobbying the first shots at QEII and the BRF just to hop onto the royal gravy train. It's not the royals' fault the Markles are poor black trash AND poor white trash.  The Markles are going to leech onto the Winds for as long as they can line tneir pockets.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 05, 2018, 01:02:10 am
Meghan Markle 'is planning to fly to the US and reunite with her estranged father Thomas in secret within weeks' for the pair's first meeting since he missed her wedding
A source claims that Meghan will take a solo trip home to America later this month to see her estranged father Thomas Markle, according to the Mirror.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6027331/Meghan-Markle-reportedly-planning-reunite-estranged-father-Thomas-secret-month.html
She needs an excuse to go to America since she’s apparently on her own this month as Harry usually goes to Africa and the rest of the royals are on holiday. No need or opportunity for her to be in the press.
Royal family’s not responding to the family drama, so she’s trying another tactic for sympathy. Visa and tax issues have to be the real reason she’s on her way back to America too. IMO, she’s in cahoots with her dad and Samantha as money and fam


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 05, 2018, 01:03:48 am
^ How many called a "heart warming reunion between father and daughter"?? lols
We shall see what happens next :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 05, 2018, 05:10:13 am
Apparently, Thomas reached out to her with a birthday card. She's all over the fron pages wearing balck to a summer wedding.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/e955ae0b8ff7cabd27723768de00d976/tumblr_pcyluiWsr01uh38om_500.jpg
https://78.media.tumblr.com/99eb77115d4a5302b72423ebe44cd82b/tumblr_pcylugV7IG1uh38om_640.jpg
https://78.media.tumblr.com/1caa5165502082237d918c7962d7e448/tumblr_pcylulVBYR1uh38om_540.jpg
https://78.media.tumblr.com/bbe6924872cce77d78b57afeb371cf2c/tumblr_pcylud82mf1uh38om_500.jpg

Off to America this trollop should go and have major issues with her visa and tax issues and criminal record if the charging Charles full price for clothing that she received for free via Jessica prves true. Enuh's enough of her being the focus of everything she attends.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 05, 2018, 01:40:53 pm
^ How many times does she need to stick her tongue out?
I've turnt into my granny, but I really *despise* it with a passion when people now constantly stick their tongues out for pics & videos. Revolting. :easter-no: :ick: :stop:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 05, 2018, 05:27:23 pm
The Sunday Express cover was sort of eerie. Not only was it an ugly picture of Meghan with her lace bra/camisole sticking out from  her suit/dress, but it was also next to headlines of a dead woman's body found. Wishful thinking by some of them?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 05, 2018, 05:42:28 pm
^^ Oh the tongue poking rage is utterly revolting.  Talk about ‘look at me me me’.  Problem is, we don’t look at M for reasons of admiration.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 05, 2018, 07:48:32 pm
https://78.media.tumblr.com/4e1b63c0a04a6019309749854984d05d/tumblr_pczq8we82w1xoon3go1_1280.png
KP hasn't commented about the family drama and won't as it's teling that she's not part of the royal family. If she was, the father would've gotten a visit from Harry pror to the engagement. I expect the truth about what's going on to come out because Harry's image has taken a major hit in the negative and the rest of the royal family looks bad and suspicious as they play at being seen with the grifter strumpet. According to Andrew Morton's book, Thomas was expecting money. Why would he be thinking that? 

I've to laugh at people saying that the state of Harry's shoes with the hole in the sole makes the royal family look bad. I think having the merry wives of Windsor; the mistress, the lazy concubine and the narcarcistic attention seeking, loving  wh*re's already made them look weak and ineffectual. They're given reason to the people why the monarchy should be abolished now as theyll be nothing left to respect after the queen dies.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 05, 2018, 07:57:02 pm
Can  you imagine QE ordering her to be nice to her family.  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 05, 2018, 11:53:18 pm
Meghan Markle is "prime mover" in decision to reach out to dad Thomas to arrange meeting
Meghan Markle is the “prime mover” in the ­decision to reach out to her father and arrange a meeting, it is understood.

The Duchess of Sussex is travelling to the US soon and will visit friends and family in New York and LA.


Meghan, 37, has personally instructed palace aides to make contact with Thomas Markle, 74, after almost three months of not speaking to him.

A source said: “A face-to-face meeting could be what is needed to help Meghan and her dad get their relationship on track.

“Both Meghan and Prince Harry have been deeply hurt over the continued comments coming from her father and the manner in which he is conducting himself.”

It emerged today that Meghan has instructed palace aides to “reach out” to her troubled dad to arrange a meeting between them.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-prime-mover-decision-13037689


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 06, 2018, 12:21:37 am
^Too little, too late. The damage is already done.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 06, 2018, 02:35:49 am
https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/image/176673786491
Now Samantha’s saying that Thomas hasn’t been contacted by Meghan. Anything to keep her and the Markle’s in the press.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 06, 2018, 02:59:47 am
Sorry about the double post but it’s hit the DM. The circus continues.
'They can stop trying to make out she’s making an effort — she is not': Meghan Markle's half-sister says the Duchess is NOT flying to the US to reconcile with her father
Meghan Markle's half-sister has vehemently denied reports that the duchess is planning to reunite with their estranged father Thomas later this month.
Over the weekend a source had claimed that Prince Harry's wife would be taking a solo trip home to America to reconcile with Thomas Markle after the pair haven't been speaking for several months.  
Samantha Markle scoffed at that claim, telling the Sun: 'I speak to him every day and it's sad but, no, they have not contacted him. There is no meeting planned, that is PR spin.
'The PR machines can stop trying to make out she's making an effort — she is not.'
Samantha, who has been estranged from the duchess since 2015, has been her father's most ardent defender in the months since Thomas and Meghan stopped speaking.
'This is a heartbreaking time for him and I'm very sad watching my sister ignore him,' she said.
Since his no-show at the Royal Wedding, Thomas has repeatedly complained about being 'cut off' by his daughter in media interviews - vowing that he won't stop speaking to the press until she agrees to get back on speaking terms.
Earlier this week an insider claimed Meghan is 'deeply hurt' by what has happened with her relationship with her father, calling it an 'increasingly desperate situation'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6029711/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-says-Duchess-NOT-flying-reconcile-father.html
Comments:
Shabbytiger, Weston supermare, United Kingdom, moments ago
Had anyone seen any humanitarian hitting the ground running? I¿ve just seen an avaricious older woman spending taxpayers money thousands and thousands on dressing herself in just a few months. Apparently this grifter needed a hairdresser to fly to Ireland with her. Yet she makes a show of herself every time she¿s out. Anyone else in the royal family exposed thier bra in recent history?
Biz26, Horsham, United States, 2 minutes ago
Megan is quite a conniver. The more you know about her the more you see that she's just a climber,. Megan was 36 when she got married and she had one person at her 2nd wedding - her mother. She only met one person that she cared about in 36 years? Megan didn't like that pretty Young Bride getting attention at her own wedding that her dress button suddenly dress button pops open come on folks can't you see what it is

Well she’s going to have to go back to the States at some point, so she should stop with the games.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 06, 2018, 05:26:38 am
Not that I believe any effort has been made but how does ordering palace aids to reach out to your father show compassion or that you want to reconcile? Shouldn't she be contacting her father personally?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: leogirl on August 06, 2018, 06:29:10 am
^ Yes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sanka on August 06, 2018, 09:27:14 am
Looks like people are getting fed up based on some of the comments on the DM and MM and the  Markle family are definitely flavour of the month.

Agree that MM should be doing something about this in conjunction with the aides who would have experience dealing with difficult situations in the press. The aides I would be thinking of would be Buckingham Palace or Clarence House.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 06, 2018, 09:33:04 am
How hard it is to pick up the phone and call. Call and ask your dad: How are you? Do you need anything?
Does anyone need aides to pick up the phone. This whole situation is of her own doing. She cut off her family in the ugliest possible way. Now it's too late to cry wolf.

On a different note - DM had put Megan's and Samantha's pictures one next to each other. They look so much alike. Looking at the bloated, botox gone bad face of Samantha, all I can think of is: this is how Meg will look like in a few years.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 06, 2018, 03:30:27 pm
Dad would make megabucks if he sold the media the transcript of said call. THe meeting needs to be in person with the place swept for wires and security present IMO. I think Dad just got greedy when he saw Sam getting money for talking to the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 06, 2018, 04:34:38 pm
^ All of them are greedy. Not just dad. Tom Jr keeps writing open letters for cash. What is he 12 and writing letters to detergent companies?
MM just needs to pick up the phone and talk to her dad. No need to swipe for bugs. Quick call: Hi, how are you, how're you doing. I can't talk about myself but I'd be happy to meetup some time soon.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 06, 2018, 05:12:01 pm
^Indeed. Nobody here is in the witness protection program or a CIA operative.  Just pick up the phone or Skype or write a note.  She's just not that important for all this lock down behavior.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 06, 2018, 05:17:53 pm
^THIS!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 06, 2018, 05:28:28 pm
^^ yes, her grandiose self of entitlement. I don’t believe that palace aids are doing anything or have ever offered anything towards the Markle’s except silence. It’s her dad and her family that she alone has to deal with.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 06, 2018, 05:32:25 pm
It’s her dad and her family that she alone has to deal with.

Do you think TPTB and the RF are just sitting back and waiting for it all to implode??


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 06, 2018, 05:39:49 pm
^I know if it was one of my dopey kids that's exactly what I would do.  I'd say a lot of "oh, dear" or "what a shame" but let the bricks fall where they may.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 06, 2018, 05:50:55 pm
^^yes because if Meghan was Harry’s choice in a girlfriend/wife, this family would’ve been taken into consideration and perhaps talked to or had something in place to minimize the damage such as Meghan saying something prior to the engagement about her family being estranged. It’s not out of the realm to believe that she’s a distraction and as well as to play the race card, of card and to get the royal family into the social media game. IMO, they know what she’s about as well as her family and will no let her sink because they’ve gotten what they needed off of her. Just look at the odd dynamic again. They’re supposed to be married yet Harry only seems to see her at engagements and is hands off with her family drama. It’s claimed that he wants to shield her from the press. Dumb really when she a narcissistic actress who loved to show off on social media and courted the press any time she could. Meghan and her family will end up exposing and ruining themselves as the royal family and Harry so nothing about the Markle’s.
The situation makes Meghan look like the lying hypocrite she is because like Yooper said, a short phone call to her dad would satisfy her dad. All this talk about her dad will run to the press to tell them what they talked about is rubbish. She’s not that important.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 06, 2018, 11:11:26 pm
It could get picked up by someone remotely and then sold to the press in a transcript. I think a conversation between them would be rather tense to say the least. I am not sure that a short phone call would satisfy her father. To me he seems very high maintenance trying to be low maintenance. He is playing his cards so to speak and might want her to give him a comfortable life in the UK living the high life. There is so much below the surface here. I was all for her father before and I was saying he wouldn't do this or that, but I am disappointed in him. If he did not run to the press, I think the cynicism about him (by some) would not exist.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 07, 2018, 05:47:51 pm
There’s no real reason she can’t call her Father.  Phone conversations can be scrambled so no one can pick up on them nowadays.   :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 07, 2018, 06:28:43 pm
^^ I still sympathize him. He gave everything to her: private schools, top tier university, vacations abroad, entry into the entertainment business. And how is she repaying him? By not even mustering: I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 07, 2018, 07:49:51 pm
If he were a nice guy he might have quietly gotten a mediator (privately perhaps an attorney) to aid in working things out or perhaps she could have gotten one. He lost me when he started going to the media. As I said I think there is a lot below the surface that is not known about the situation. He and Meghan are not flawless individuals but I don't see him as a nice guy anymore. Maybe Meghan did try and the man wanted more. Maybe he wanted to be "repaid" for doing all the things he did. This is what parents should do for their children, support them send them through school. Maybe he was not good at other aspects of parenting. As I said, there is a lot below the surface which perhaps may or may not be revealed.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 07, 2018, 09:03:13 pm
I really don't get why it's so hard to understand why the need for attorneys or courtiers to mediate a simple conversation between father and daughter is so uncalled for. Barring that he's not in on the PR scheme, the situation has turned into the cluster we see now BECAUSE she was using staff as a go-between before eventually ghosting him like she's done others.

She's lucky she's got Tom as a father and not mine. If I had ever made my father go through someone to have a relationship with me or made it so that he didn't have a way of getting in touch with me, he'd use any means necessary to get in touch with me, including rolling up to the palace. I don't care what happened in the past. That's still your father. You only get one. There's a line of respect that should absolutely never be crossed. And I say all of this as someone whose father has many, many faults.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 07, 2018, 10:59:57 pm
For supporters of Tom Markle his Go Fund Me page is up and running.

https://www.gofundme.com/manage/a-royal-title-for-thomas-markle

Very worthwhile too.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 07, 2018, 11:10:34 pm
^^ Exactly. Very well said.

Murky is also only mad because the dropping game seriously backfired, at long last. You can't discard literally everyone over the years and not run into trouble at some point. She's only mad at Thomas because he won't quietly go away like all the others did.

And yeah sending palace lackeys is not the same as being there yourself.
It's akin to saying: "Why are you making such a fuss about missing your parents? You have a nanny ffs!"


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 08, 2018, 01:41:51 am
@val what is worthwhile about funding Thomas Markle?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 08, 2018, 02:47:25 am
^^^Haha! That's funny.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 08, 2018, 03:11:33 am
This must be the refreshing change that the American Markles must bring to the 1000 year old British Monarchy. Like, titles and stuff, you know, cuz it's only fair and all.  :o


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 08, 2018, 03:13:04 am
I'm so happy that was funny and not serious :bouncy:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 08, 2018, 03:59:22 am
^^They could call the Murkey reality show Titles, Tiaras & Stuff.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 08, 2018, 01:43:15 pm
^^^^^

The GFM page is worthwhile as any money left over goes to Oxfam to provide goats for impoverished Africans to make a living.  Many feel that he has been badly treated as he spent years providing the best lifestyle he could for Meghan then he was side lined and dumped.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 08, 2018, 01:44:25 pm
I would not fund Tom Markle for a title for a pair of new shoes for nothing.. I would fund established charities to help the poor. Tom IMO will just pocket that money and use it for himself. He really has disappointed me. People may only have one father but I have heard of cases where the child can prefer a stepfather to the bio father.
Whatever else I hope this is settled and this is all quieted down. They should just get on with it IMO


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 08, 2018, 02:06:00 pm
^^I see no problem with the GFM page.  If Thomas doesn't get a title, the $ goes to Oxfam, a very worthwhile charity.  And it's tax deductible, too.  It's legit.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 09, 2018, 07:33:09 pm
EXCLUSIVE: 'Stop blathering!' Meghan Markle says she isn't falling for her father's 'crocodile tears' or moans that she'd be 'better off if he were dead' because she's been down this road too many times, close friend reveals
Meghan Markle has made it clear that she refuses to be manipulated by her father's 'emotional blackmail' after saying that she has heartlessly cut him off and she would be better off if he were dead.
'Enough already,' Meghan told a close friend.
'For the life of her, she can't understand why he's digging such a deep hole for himself and to say things like, 'It would be easier for her if her dad died.
'She said she  just wishes her dad would "stop blathering" to the press. That's the one birthday gift she wanted from her father.
According to the source close to the 37-year-old duchess, 'Meghan has no immediate plans to contact her father. Firstly, she's deeply hurt and secondly she can't trust him to keep their conversation private.'
'Meghan is big on being true to herself and taking care of herself, and if this means avoiding toxic relationships so be it. It's not like she's never ever going to speak with her dad again, but certainly not now, not in this climate."
Markle spoke to The Mail on Sunday for nearly nine hours over the course of three days to say he has been left reeling by Meghan's 'sense of superiority' since this newspaper first exposed him for staging a set of paparazzi pictures just six days before the May 19 wedding at Windsor.
And he claimed:
1. He fears Meghan will never let him see any future grandchildren;
2. Meghan might be better off if he were to die: 'Everyone would be filled with sympathy for her';
3. Frustration at the 'mixed messages' he has received, with Harry and Meghan telling him not to apologize for the staged paparazzi pictures debacle, just hours before a Palace aide called and offered to help him 'make an apology';
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6044243/Meghan-Markle-says-isnt-falling-fathers-moaning-hed-better-dead.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: LadyLaura on August 09, 2018, 08:06:37 pm
the gift that keeps on.

I hope nutmeg is enjoying her cup that overfloweth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 09, 2018, 10:29:38 pm
The DM is blowing up over this. I'm going to head to the concession stand.  Popcorn, anyone?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 09, 2018, 11:11:20 pm
 ^it does seem like something’s about to break; more stuff from Thomas’ 9 hours of talking to the press or Trevor finally having his say on what Meghan’s about.
I love this comment:
Pookie Jones, Chicago, United States, moments ago
Ten quid says the "exclusive source" is the Baroness of Bathrobes and Bedsheets herself.
The DM isn’t moderating the comments section anymore.  :cookie:
Her supporters are upset and calling this cyber bullying.  :tehe:  They claim that the DM is making her look bad. She’s done that all by herself by being a cold hearted greedy b.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 10, 2018, 12:15:20 am
Just support Thomas Marlies Go Fund Me page.  A worthy cause as any surplus going to buy goats to help impoverished Africans. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 10, 2018, 04:11:52 am
They all make deals, deals and more deals and all behind the royals backs... maybe someone can tell all about that.  :think:

Like Murky making a deal for a princess ring without PH knowing it? Like maybe the Markle's are a part of it and have a one for all and all for one attitude just like KM and the Middletons did?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 10, 2018, 01:01:48 pm
Who knows for sure, both sides contradict themselves at every twist and turn. When is Balmoral happening?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 10, 2018, 03:14:29 pm
It might have happened already. Murky is less in the public eye but imo she's retaliating via the rest of the Markles and possibly Priyanka, unless she is the "close friend" who did didn't give interview to the press.

My curiosity is still around what would QE do?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 10, 2018, 03:57:53 pm
I think Sparkles is playing the Diana card to the max with "how can everyone be so mean to me and I'm just hounded to the ground so protect me from these evil people and my beastly family!".   So, she's getting coddled somewhere and feels misunderstood and is confused and sad that so few see her fabulousness and blah blah blah blah blah.

The Markles are quite the masters of manipulation I see.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 10, 2018, 05:00:10 pm
^Born and bread in Hollyweird. The finest manipulation training one can buy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 10, 2018, 05:01:18 pm
Yes. I believe it is a large part of KM and Murky's con to play at being like Princess Diana.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 10, 2018, 05:12:04 pm
 ^yep, but it’s backfired on her though.
Comments:
John Murdoch, Dark City, United States, 7 minutes ago
Ha i ain't no prince but man wtf even i would never marry this trash as even Snoop Dogg knows y'all can't wife a ho lmao!
ChefsSpecial, Hot Kitchen, United States, 10 minutes ago
MEMEME worked at the US Embassy in Argentina as an INTERN. She was one of several. Also while reading one of her interviews with Marie Claire Magazine, she boasted about her position there but never thanked or mentioned her paternal Uncle for getting her the position. He was a Career Diplomat and is now retired. SHE IS AN AWFUL PERSON; A GREEDY USER!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6046883/Deal-No-Deal-host-reveals-Meghan-slightly-Duchessy.html#comments-6046883
The Markle’s won’t be able to keep yapping to the press because no one really cares about Meghan; their cash cow.
Now she’s being used for cheap pr by other people. Maybe she will be the guest suit girl of honour on the newly launched Deal or No Deal show.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 10, 2018, 05:52:46 pm
Mods, I apologize for double posting, but this is interesting and just came up. Best to post it now than when it’s edited and changed later.
Revealed: Thomas Markle told Prince Harry he DIDN'T collude with paparazzi in phone call just nine days before marrying Meghan, claims royal photographer
Thomas Markle told Prince Harry he had not colluded with the paparazzi in a telephone call just nine days before the royal wedding, it has been claimed.
The Prince personally called his father-in-law at his home in Mexico to ask about reports he had been working with photographers in the run up to the big day, veteran royal photographer Arthur Edwards claims.
But less than 48 hours after the call a newspaper published proof of staged photos.
Speaking on a Radio Kent phone-in show hosted by Prince Harry's biographer Duncan Larcombe, Edwards claims Markle's denial of collusion caused 'embarrassment' to Prince Harry.
He said: 'Harry spoke to the father direct and said have you been cooperating with the paparazzi. He said no.
'The Palace put out a statement on Friday night saying to respect his privacy. Harry had been reassured by the father it was not going on.'
Edwards told the 'On Air with Duncan Larcombe' show it was obvious from the photos appearing in the media that Markle had been colluding with the paparazzi near his home in Rosarito, Mexico.
He said: 'We knew the father was colluding with the paparazzi. Everyone in the business knows that. When he was in the library, looking at the TV screen and they happen to be there. You don't get measured up for a suit in a shop window.'
Radio host Larcombe sounded surprised when Edwards, who has worked for the Sun newspaper for 40 years, claimed Harry had actually called Markle.
Edwards said: 'He told him he had not colluded..I think he (harry) was embarrassed
In the fallout from the expose by the Mail on Sunday Mr Markle did not attend the wedding and has since claimed he has no contact with his daughter, now the Duchess of Sussex.
It is likely Prince Harry made the personal call on Friay May 11th after Kensington Palace officials were made aware of a forthcoming newspaper report claiming Markle had been paid to pose for a series of staged photos.
The following day after Harry's alleged phone call, the press watchdog IPSO issued a warning to the media requesting that photographers respect Mr Markle's privacy and stop from harassing him.
Less than 24 hours later the Mail on Sunday published its bombshell report that showed Markle had been colluding with paparazzi Jeff Rayner who took the staged shots.
Rayner, a Los Angeles based photographer, could clearly be seen in the series of photos directing the shots which included Markle being measured for a wedding suit and looking at photos of the soon to be wed couple on a library computer.
The photos are reported to have sold for over £200,000 worldwide with Markle's share not known.
The former film lighting director later apologised and the Duchess of Sussex's half sister Samantha claimed it was her idea to portray to stage the photos in the hope of portraying her her father in a positive way.
In the fall out from the Mail on Sunday expose Mr Markle cancelled his flight to London the chance to walk his daughter down the aisle.
The day before the story appeared - on Saturday May 12 - Prince Harry's press officer contacted press watchdog IPSO on behalf of Mr Markle.
Markle was concerned for his safety as he had been subject to continual surveillance and harassment by paparazzi.
In the days that followed Mr Markle apologised for colluding with the paparazzi telling the US based celebrity site TMZ that they looked 'stupid and hammy' and he regretted posing for them.
As speculation mounted that Mr Markle would pull out of the wedding Kensington Palace issued a statement from Meghan and Harry pleading for 'understanding and respect'.
The statement said: 'This is a deeply personal moment for Ms. Markle in the days before her wedding. She and Prince Harry ask again for understanding and respect to be extended to Mr. Markle in this difficult situation,'
The next day, Thomas apparently changed his mind, saying he wanted to walk his daughter down the aisle but pulled out altogether due to undergoing heart surgery.
Meghan's mother Dora gave her away during the service with Prince Charles accompanying her down the aisle.
Since the wedding Mr Markle has given a series of explosive interviews and claims he has been cut out of his daughter's life.
He complained that the phone numbers he has for her no longer work and its been reported that their last conversation was the day after the wedding.
A Kensington Palace spokesman refused to comment.  :cookie:  Standard line now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6048179/Thomas-Markle-told-Prince-Harry-DIDNT-collude-paparazzi-phone-call-wedding.html
Comments:
cressie, BOSTON, United States, 10 minutes ago
Meghan and her father are two birds of a feather. Full of lies and PR stunts.
mathilda, Coventry, United Kingdom, 2 minutes ago
Dear Thomas just like your Sparkly daughter, we don't believe a word that either of you say......all smoke and mirrors my dear, but we are getting to know the back story........

I expect the Markle’s are being played as they think they’re playing Harry and the royal family. Harry placed an IPO on Meghan last year and now we’re supposed to believe that he’s head over heels in love with her in marital bliss and taking to protecting a perfect stranger like Thomas.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 10, 2018, 06:10:18 pm
OK. Then Balmoral hasn't happened yet since articles like this are coming out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 10, 2018, 09:46:01 pm
I just love it when Murky's twitter sugar monkeys yell h8ter when you tell the truth... it's actually hysterical esp those who cry racismmmm!!!!! Holey Moley!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That seems to be the operative word here. H8ter. Everyone is bad and awful and picking on Murky (and KM). Esp Samantha. Poor, poor, Murky. Everyone better pucker up and kiss her scrawny arse or the sugars are going to cry racism. This, I believe, was Murky's intention from the het-go. Cripes!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 10, 2018, 10:11:38 pm
Let's just have a Tom-Meg photo op so this whole storm can stop soon. IMO anyway.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 10, 2018, 10:39:55 pm
Why’s the DM putting the articles about her dad and her under the Trump Administration banner?  :cookie:  It’s been like that for a while now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 10, 2018, 11:18:06 pm
^^^And that's also those bozos jump to conclusions in thinking Murky's detractors are all white.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 10, 2018, 11:33:19 pm
@sheridan_is_appalled.   and many support her simply BECAUSE she's "African-American which is nutters and claim it's about time a black person married into that family. :o  :- :- :- :o That b s makes no sense whatsoever. It's disgusting. It doesn't matter how horrible a person she is as long as she is African-American just like they are it's like they all scored a point or some shyt like that. And before anyone claims I'm being racist my maternal grandmum was Irish and African.  :bored:  It's sick I feel the need to clarify that fact....


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 10, 2018, 11:41:38 pm
Why’s the DM putting the articles about her dad and her under the Trump Administration banner?  :cookie:  It’s been like that for a while now.

Anything to distract from the Mueller investigation and also - Meghan is grooming the gullible millennials.. on whose behalf, besides merching, I do not know but something's fishy.

(And her being rumored to be cozy with members of the current administration makes me wonder what team is she playing for. For example, if she wants to go for "first in something" democratic candidate - she's already waaaay behind. There's already first muslim, first black, first from Bronx, youngest. The only "first" she has so far is the oldest royal bride ever ... which if I were her I'd rather never speak of it ... ever.)

Let's just have a Tom-Meg photo op so this whole storm can stop soon. IMO anyway.

This whole operation on a slow news month for the royals is to crank up the photo opp and merching price for both Markles. There's no real feud, imo. Only pretend family feud. If they meet the suspense will be gone and so the interest in their shenanigans. They won't go for that. There'll be: what Harry is worried about, what Kate thinks, what QE thinks, what Sam says, what Tom Jr writes in an open letter. So many angles to explore.

^There's a lot of reverse racism going around.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 10, 2018, 11:43:44 pm
^^&^^^ I've been called racist for criticizing MM and I'm black American. I will never understand why many black women defend her when she only claims her black lineage when it's convenient. She has NEVER used her platform to champion issues that affect PoC!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 10, 2018, 11:47:33 pm
^exavtly. That kind of bs can only last so far. She’s getting ripped in the comments with good reason. She used the race card to get that statement published and to stay around to get Harry. It’s backfiring on her now as she’s being called out for her shady character.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 10, 2018, 11:48:39 pm
^^ it seems common with poor Afr-Amer people...

I'm being obnoxious but I'm surprised she doesn't claim to have inherited the wing gene. I know I sure as heck didn't and no one in my grandmum's did, either!  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 11, 2018, 12:03:26 am
So any complaint about Megs is because of her color, wow, so what is it when Kate is criticized, white-on-white crime?  :dontknow:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 11, 2018, 12:42:15 am
I don't think that people complain about Megan's skin color. I think that the problem is that whenever someone complains about her someone replies with: "But what about" or "You're saying this because she's black or mixed race". Both are not strong arguments.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 11, 2018, 03:00:29 am
I know I was talking about ethnicity and how many people use the race card when defending Murky against criticism.  There is no need whatsoever to bring in her race, ethnicity, skin colour... but many do and then they go from there.  :bat: :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 11, 2018, 03:07:09 am
^It's because they have nothing else to say, so they throw race in there for whatever reason.  It's their go to when they have no other defense.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 11, 2018, 03:16:56 am
It's madness on Twitter. If you want to bash Samantha, Tom Sr, Jr, and anyone who is not Murky than hey, Okay, the sugars will try to swell around you and include you in their ranks but if you criticise the sainted Doria and her little precious than people attack you and call you h8ter. It's hysterical, really. But it is also so sick. I stand down and don't allow the abuse of me. The sugars can piss off.

The story of daddy's little meth daughter seems to have hit a nerve with some of those trolls. Look, Tom Sr wanted into the press, pursues the press, makes deals with photo agencies... we have every right to write about these less than savoury shenanigans. The sugars need to stop trying to make this about protecting the black person from all the mean old nasties and just roll with it. The Markle's all have the option of staying out of the press and not interacting with journos. End of.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 11, 2018, 03:48:58 am
Always the ones who accuse others of being h8ers say the most hateful immature things.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 11, 2018, 01:43:21 pm
From Spengler in the DM

‘DM, your article contains a big error and significant embellishment. Meghan was NEVER a U.S. State Department employee. She took the test but failed it. She did, however, have a brief college internship with the U.S. embassy in Argentina that was obtained for her by her uncle, Thomas Markle's brother. You remember Thomas Markle-- the man whom the DM says did nothing for his daughter? ‘


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 11, 2018, 01:51:42 pm
Doria isn’t allegedly the dignified innocent she is made out to be.   This is from another forum and there is supposed to be more on Bayoubuzz on Monday.  Those tweeters amongst you need to share it on Twitter, the sugars will be shocked.

In that regard, the facts and especially the photos in Andrew Morton's book indicate that Meghan learned about how to use people and then dump them from her mother, Doria.

the photos are startling. In early ones, Doria looks like Tito Jackson! She's got a huge 'fro and a very militant expression on her face. Doria, frankly, is the big actress in the Markle family.

After two years, Doria dumped her husband. A big pot smoker, she then became a "travel agent." She took Meghan on her "travels" to....Jamaica (where there is a LOT of POT) and to places like Oaxaca, Mexico (another big hippie "get high" destination, famous for its hallucinogenic "Magic Mushrooms").  thomas Markle, Jr. and Doria's California neighbors talked about how Doria was a regular pot smoker.

Doria's also from mulatto relatives-- which explains why Meghan is so "white."  And what Morton fails to mention in his book is how, back in the day, slave owners and overseers often fathered children with the female slaves. Although Doria was quite militant-looking (until she met Thomas Markle, Sr.) just the gaga face she made to him at their wedding shows you how manipulative she is.

‘I see it now.  Meghan is fully her mother's creation, and that is what the Markles understand but cannot articulate so clearly. But overall, they understand that both Mother and Daughter are "fake."  They just want the truth out there about their cunning and devious family member.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 11, 2018, 02:00:36 pm
Again, I will say that I went to Northwestern when Meghan allegedly did and NO ONE remembers her, despite the fact that someone here rudely TOLD me who her friends were when she supposedly went there.
The campus isn't that big, you know. And quite a few of us still keep in touch.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 11, 2018, 02:01:37 pm
^

The UK public were mostly sucked in and believed the ‘dignified’ vision of Doria which was presented at the wedding.  The truth is quite different.  One poster said she even had a criminal record but I don’t know how true that is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 11, 2018, 02:14:01 pm
The RF hurried Doria in for that ghastly wedding then reversed the process at lightning speed. I found that very odd.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 11, 2018, 03:55:41 pm
^^That's the poop here. Doria was supposedly arrested for drug possession, jailed and lost custody of Sparkles for quite some time.  Now, it could not have been a minor offense, a la possession of marijuana.  It would had to have been selling it or some other drug or possession of a Class 1 drug.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 11, 2018, 04:49:52 pm
^ Wow! :o There was always the question why Meg lived solely with her dad for a few years, I guess that explains it, until and unless something comes out publicly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 11, 2018, 04:54:10 pm
^ I'm stunned anyway. I believe Mummy and Murky are in on this together but I had no idea of these intimate details surrounding Doria. Do we have confirmation of this? Just. Wow.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 11, 2018, 05:09:30 pm
^No.  I don’t have any police records or docs but it’s always “everybody knows that” when I’ve asked in even the most cautious circles.  It’s, unfortunately, not unusual nor a big secret.  Not in CA anyway.

If she did her time, it’s over but it does answer questions and makes the treatment of her father even more unseemly. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 11, 2018, 07:02:33 pm
^Gotcha.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: quo on August 11, 2018, 10:38:21 pm
Well none of this drama is going away


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6050991/Thomas-Markle-reveals-phone-Harry-heated-call-following-staged-paparazzi-photos.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 11, 2018, 10:43:57 pm
I hung up on the Prince! Thomas Markle reveals he put the phone down on Harry in a heated call following staged paparazzi photos... and admits he LIED to the groom about his role in the deal

    The Duchess of Sussex’s father said he was ‘upset’ by Harry’s tirade in the call
    He said it was 'rude' for the Prince to call while he recovered from a heart attack
    Mr Markle told Harry he was being ‘measured for a hoodie’ in the staged photos

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6050991/Thomas-Markle-reveals-phone-Harry-heated-call-following-staged-paparazzi-photos.html

 :bored: :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 11, 2018, 11:12:24 pm
'I told Harry it would be better if I was dead': What Meghan Markle's father said to the groom while recovering in hospital from a heart attack following the staged paparazzi photos scandal
Thomas Markle was in his hospital bed in the Chula Vista Medical Center, San Diego, recovering from a heart attack when his mobile phone rang.
It was just three days before the Royal Wedding and a familiar voice said to him: ‘If you had listened to me this would never have happened.’
It was Prince Harry, the man who was about to become his son-in-law, and he was understandably furious having learned Mr Markle had cooperated with the paparazzi to stage photos of him apparently preparing for the Royal Wedding.
Though they have never met, after being introduced by Meghan on the phone, Harry and Mr Markle previously enjoyed a series of ‘warm and chatty’ phone calls over a period of months.
They also talked about what to do when news of the Royal romance became public.
‘Harry told me that I should never go to the Press. That it would end in tears. He said: “They will eat you alive.” He was right.’
On Friday May 11, The Mail on Sunday informed Kensington Palace of the bombshell revelations about Mr Markle we were to publish two days later.
That Friday, Harry called Mr Markle to ask if he had co-operated with the shots which showed him, among other things, supposedly being fitted for a wedding suit for the big day. Mr Markle admits lying to his son-in-law to be, telling him: ‘No, I was being measured for a new hoodie.’
Three days after our story was published on May 13, Harry and Meghan called Mr Markle again, though by then he was in hospital recovering from a heart attack. That was when the Prince told him: ‘If you had listened to me this would never have happened.’
Mr Markle said he told Harry: ‘Maybe it would be better for you guys if I was dead… then you could pretend to be sad. Then I hung up.’
In hindsight, he admits Prince Harry was ‘absolutely right’ to criticise him for dealing with the paparazzi for money.
The intense media spotlight trained on Meghan’s romance, engagement and marriage to Harry brought ‘chaos’ to his once-quiet life of retirement in a hilltop home in Rosarito Beach, Mexico, near the US border.
And for now, retired Emmy-award-winning lighting director Mr Markle is ‘royally p***ed off’.
He is fed up of the ‘constant lies’ written about him; he is fed up with his life being ‘ruined’; he is fed up with Royal aides not offering him any help or guidance.

He has been ‘sold out’ by several friends and says his family, including his brother Fred, a retired bishop of an Eastern Orthodox Catholic church in Florida, have been vilified: ‘They took a picture of his little church and put it beside a picture of the Queen’s church. It was insulting and offensive.’ As he talks, it is clear he is an immensely proud man who has been wounded by some of the actions – or rather inaction – of Palace aides.
When news of Meghan’s romance broke, he says he ‘was given no advice whatsoever except not to talk to the press. I was hung out to dry. I was being chased and harassed on a daily basis. I didn’t know who to turn to.
‘They (the Palace) gave me no help at all. I felt utterly isolated.’
Kensington Palace and its army of advisers have been similarly accused of a ‘communications disaster’ by commentators after news broke that Mr Markle wouldn’t be attending his daughter’s wedding.
Royal experts questioned why he was left to cope with the glare of the media spotlight, in contrast to the support given by the Royals to Kate Middleton’s family in the run-up to her wedding with Prince William in 2011.
His interview with The Mail on Sunday is only the third he has ever given to a newspaper – and he says it will be his last. He says many reports about him have been ‘made up, spun around and others are outright lies’.
‘Meghan asked me to tell Samantha to stop talking about her and then asked me to stop talking to Samantha. I have two daughters. I can’t stop talking to one of them,’ he says with a shrug. ‘No father should be asked to turn his back on their children. I love Meghan but I also love Samantha.’
Despite their disagreements, he insists: ‘I love Harry, I love my daughter. I wish them all the love and best wishes for the future.
‘But I am not sitting here crying. I’m not sitting here being self-pitying. I’m not cashing in on the Royal Family. I don’t care about the Royal Family. My daughter is a duchess. I don’t even know what that really means.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6051061/I-told-Harry-better-dead-Meghan-Markles-fathers-call-groom.html
When will the bs end with this lot?   :bored:  The lies and the back and forth crap continues to make Harry look a fool for dragging this nonsense into his family and the nation. Surely there’s a surprise waiting in the wings to make Harry’s involvement make sense; like these greedy grifters led by Meghan’s ensnared  a trap, exposed and booted out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 11, 2018, 11:16:56 pm
The DM needs to shut this down. So sick of seeing photos of this man. IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 11, 2018, 11:20:40 pm
^He sells with his constant "pitty me" card.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 11, 2018, 11:32:05 pm
THOMAS MARKLE: 'I'm no weirdo schlubby dad in a Mexican shack who drinks beers and lives on McDonald's' - Meghan's father hits back at 'bull***t' written about him in most revealing interview yet
Thousands of stories have been written about me, most of them bull***t. I’ve given two interviews. This is my third. Things have been made up, spun around and others are outright lies…
THE FICTION I’m a drunk because I’ve been photographed buying beer.
THE  FACTS I buy beer for the guards at the gatehouse at the compound where I live. Sharon Osbourne accused me of being an alcoholic the other day. How dare she? I drink the occasional glass of red wine with dinner because it’s good for my heart. How can Sharon Osbourne criticise me? My family might be dysfunctional but it’s nothing compared to hers.
THE FICTION I faked my heart attack. When reporters called the Chula Vista Medical Center where I was treated they denied I’d ever been in there.
THE FACTS You have a right to privacy when you go into hospital. I didn’t want my name out there but they [reporters] still found me. I had to escape through a building site at the back of the hospital and then I went to a safe house, a tiny rented flat, which is where I watched the wedding. I have the medical bills to prove I had a heart attack. The insurance bills were $140,000 and I have to pay $20,000 of it as excess.
THE FICTION Meghan lived with her mother after we divorced when she was six and I only had limited contact with her because I was working all the time.
THE FACTS Meghan lived with me from the age of 11 until she went off to college after High School. Before that I saw her all the time. I dropped her off at school every morning when I went to work and arranged for someone to bring her to the set [of TV shows he worked on such as Married, With Children and General Hospital) after school. We were very close. I took her to her dance and drama classes. I would help build sets for her drama classes. I would help stage her shows. I’d always take her to CC Browns. It’s shut now but it was an ice cream parlour on Sunset Boulevard. We also went to Hamburger Hamlet. Then we would rent old dance movies. We watched every Busby Berkeley movie. She loved them. She wanted to be a dancer at first.
THE FICTION I live on McDonald’s meals.
THE FACTS I eat a mostly fish-based diet. I go to McDonald’s because when you’re my age after a two-hour drive it is a good place to pee. I get take-out fish from McDonald’s. I’ve lost 40lb since my heart attack. I eat fish and vegetables and stay on a 2,000 calorie-a-day diet. I’m not ‘the weirdo schlubby dad living in a shack in Mexico drinking beer and eating McDonald’s’.
THE FICTION I’m a loser who mooches off my daughter and the Royal Family.
THE FACTS I have been nominated for eight Emmys [the television equivalent of the Oscars] and won three. I’ve travelled all over the world. I did declare bankruptcy before I went down to Mexico but that was because I was in credit card debt and I wanted to wipe the slate clean. They were trying to charge me 28 per cent on the credit card debt and I refuse to pay that kind of crazy interest. I’ve never taken a penny from Meghan and I’ve never cashed in on the Royal Family. I’ve been offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to do talk shows and I’ve turned everything down.
THE FICTION I’m a self-pitying narcissist who’s been talking constantly to the Press.
THE FACTS This is only the third interview I’ve given. All the other stories are crafted from the three original stories and most of them are lies. I’m not crying or feeling sorry for myself.
THE FICTION I have several illegitimate children.
THE FACTS They are simply close friends. One child is the daughter of my ex-housekeeper and her nice husband who are good friends to me. Every time I try to help someone it gets turned into something tawdry.
THE FICTION I was not involved in Meghan’s life.
THE FACTS Meghan herself has talked about how I was there. I don’t have to say it. She says I was there. The social activism she is so proud of is something I always encouraged.
We bought turkey dinners and took them to the homeless. We would drive up and down Hollywood Boulevard and hand meals out to the needy. She’s talked about that. When she was given a form at school to fill out her race and it was black or white she didn’t know what to mark down because she didn’t want to hurt her mother’s feelings or mine. She came home and said ‘I don’t know what to do.’ I told her: ‘Make your own box.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6051067/THOMAS-MARKLE-Meghans-father-hits-bull-t-written-revealing-interview.html
And on it goes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 11, 2018, 11:56:58 pm
Again, I will say that I went to Northwestern when Meghan allegedly did and NO ONE remembers her, despite the fact that someone here rudely TOLD me who her friends were when she supposedly went there.
The campus isn't that big, you know. And quite a few of us still keep in touch.

I went to college in the same metroplex at the same time. I bet the person that rudely TOLD you about her friends is the same one who rudely TOLD me I didn't know what I was talking about when I pointed out that the cap and gown pictures definitely weren't from NW and that she attended but never graduated. The only photos of record of her attendance are from the sorority house.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 12, 2018, 12:51:20 am
^ :laugh: YES hahahahaha!  Complete nutter, that one.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 12, 2018, 01:08:18 am
^^^I believe him.  All he says backs up what has been the biz chatter.

^^This is not the MM thread so lets watch it but I will say that I have checked and no record of her there and, frankly, she’d be splashing pics of herself graduating from such a prestigious univ everwhere on the planet.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sanka on August 12, 2018, 02:08:19 am
The saga continues day after day with this family. It is getting boring but the media just keep twisting some of the same stories.





Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 12, 2018, 02:41:13 am
^^^^ I couldn't resist to comment on this OT: are we sure that MEghan's only affiliation to NW is going once to a party? I suspect that she enrolled, found out that people actually study for exams and you can't bully your way into an A there. Then her uncle got her the internship during the first semester, if not the first year, and in the 2 weeks in Buenos Aires it downed on her that people actually work on their jobs and don't get paid millions for being divas. Then she met Trevor, the producer, and didn't need to pretend to be interested in study any more.

^^^^^So, the surgery is real, Tom Sr being in bad shape is real... what is his ungrateful daughter doing to do about it... Continue to hide and publicly shame him?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 12, 2018, 03:00:13 am
^That makes sense to me (OT, please and I'll be mindful too).  Attend d for a while but never graduated seems to be the solid answer. 

Maybe, with the Markles' unabashed openness, we'll get some answers.  We may need a translator to figure out what's what but Thomas Markle's record clearing sounds legit.  More of that would be helpful because I think Sparkles exaggerates, to put it kindly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 12, 2018, 03:46:22 am
Meghan Markle's mum Doria 'prepares to MOVE to UK' to be close to duchess daughter
EXCLUSIVE: The Duchess of Sussex’s beloved mother is preparing to move to London to be close to her daughter and Prince Harry, according to friends.
Doria Ragland – the only member of Meghan’s family at her wedding – is said to be “beside herself with excitement” at becoming neighbours of Harry and Meghan.
One friend said yesterday she could make the move as soon as next month, in time to celebrate her 62nd birthday in Britain.
Doria is said to have been deeply impressed by the Royal Family, including the Queen, during and after Meghan’s wedding.
Her unconcealed joy also won her millions of fans. Unlike her ex-husband Thomas Markle, and other relatives who have cashed in on the nuptials with a series of tell-all interviews, she has never publicly uttered a word about her daughter’s fairy tale romance.
Doria has already laid the groundwork for her departure to London. In May, she quit her job as a social worker for the Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services clinic in Culver City, Los Angeles. She has also been spotted with a security guard.
A close friend in LA said last night: “She is getting ready to move to London. I think she will be going as soon as possible. I know that she was eager to live closer to her daughter.
“She hasn’t been staying at her house for a while now. She has only visited the house very occasionally and when she is there she has had a security guard with her. He has been with her since about November.
“She is fiercely loyal to Meghan and would never betray her like the rest of them. They are so close.
“She also fell in love with England and told me when she got back that it’s somewhere she believes she too could happily live.
“I think this has been coming for a while. Even before the wedding she told me how she misses her Megs so much she would do anything to be closer to her, especially now Meghan will be starting a family of her own.”
Another neighbour in the posh and suitably named LA area of Windsor Hills added: “Doria and Meghan have always been inseparable. Doria is beside herself with excitement at the thought of moving to London.
“I’d bet Meghan is just as thrilled at the thought of having her mom close, especially when she and Harry have children. Doria is going to be an absolutely amazing grandma.”
Another friend of Doria said: “She might have looked shy on TV at Windsor Castle, but she’s a real live-wire, full of enthusiasm. I can’t think of anyone who doesn’t like her.”
Meghan, who grew up in Windsor Hills, has raved about her birthplace in interviews, saying she misses the LA lifestyle of “palm trees, the heat of the sun and the ocean breeze.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1002257/Meghan-markle-news-meghan-markle-mum-doria-ragland-move-uk-london
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Drag out mummy to play the race card against the cold royal family who’s not sorting out her family drama for her.  :bored:
Funny thing with this is that Doria has no means of income, possible criminal record and would need a visa to stay in London. Umm, where is she planning on living? At KP with Harry or Soho House with her lying daughter.   Is she planning on living off the royal family and the British people?  :bored:
I hope that the DM picks this story up because the comments would be priceless.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 12, 2018, 04:12:23 am
Mods, this is a fast moving story so sorry for the double post as I want to put it here now before the article gets edited and stuff omitted.
I wanted to give a speech. Harry told me to ask Meghan. She said 'there's no room': THOMAS MARKLE reveals his hurt at being left out of his daughter's big day
Shortly before, he was reduced to scrambling across a building site behind the hospital to evade paparazzi photographers and TV news crews.
The indignity of his situation reflected what he saw as the glaring disparity between the way he had been treated and the Palace's attitude towards his ex-wife Doria Ragland.
And in an astonishing oversight, he says he was never even sent one of the 600 ornate formal wedding invitations.
Mr Markle said: 'I never got a wedding invitation. At first I thought, 'That's OK, because I'm part of the wedding', but I would have loved to have had an invitation to put in a frame.
More upsetting still, he says that when he told Prince Harry on the phone that he would 'like to make a little speech', the Prince responded: 'You will have to talk to Meghan.'
According to Mr Markle, when he spoke to his daughter, she replied there was 'no room' in the ceremony for a speech by her father.
'She was the same with Trevor [Engelson, her first husband]. Meghan is very maternal by nature. She loves to cook and she will mother Harry. He's eating properly now, he's dressing the way she wants him to. All men need that.'  :bored: Really?
He spoke to the media for 9 hours over a 3 day period, so his interview will be dragged out in the press.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6051585/I-wanted-speech-Harry-told-ask-Meghan-said-theres-no-room.html
Cover of the DM newspaper.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/image/176897942443
So no invite and coldly dismisses by Meghan. Odd how he was listed on the order of service when he received no invite or anything else that would include him in the wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on August 12, 2018, 04:13:40 am
Not sure that I believe this article. I'm not so sure that Doria has quit her job in LA. She's been spotted leaving for work recently and near to the clinic. A guest at the wedding asked her whether she would be staying in London long and she replied 'Not long as I have to get back to work'. She's near the age when she can retire though, and get an age pension. If Doria had any serious criminal conviction she would not be able to work as a social worker, and she was certainly able to enter Britain on a visa for the nuptials.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 12, 2018, 04:29:07 am
She can certainly work as a social worker if she's had a conviction and paid her dues.  Happens all the time and many are hired after a certain time because they are experienced in the problems with which many face.  She can also get a visa.  That depends upon the charges.  Misdemeanor or felony can make the difference and could have some limitations especially if she wants to change citizenship status.

As for retirement, unless she's worked for a company with pension benefits for a solid long time, she wouldn't qualify for anything substantial.  She would only get social security which ain't much.  F she's lucky, $1500/month but that's even high.  Social workers salaries are embarrassingly low so it would make sense to have her daughter start kicking in because the added pension would not be more than, maybe $1000/month.  The gov also taxes it all as income and deducts for health insurance.

She needs a wealthy relative.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 12, 2018, 07:32:31 am
Another brilliant article by Sarah Whalen in BayouBuzz

@bayoubuzz wrote:
https://www.bayoubuzz.com/bb/item/1063542-prince-harry-and-the-markles-the-reality-show


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 12, 2018, 01:28:52 pm
I finally read some of these articles of his latest interviews and it strikes me all as true what he says.
It also confirms pretty much everything we've been saying for ages, that he was never planned to be in the wedding and was never in fact even invited.
I really feel sorry for him. And as he says, he does indeed look like he's lost a lot of weight since his heart troubles (acc to him 40lbs).

German media reported straight after the engagement that Doria is to move to London, which I believed and still do, the only thing that makes me doubt this story is the fact that Doria was in England for the wedding for a handful days. I expected her to be there for about a month, with the wedding in the middle of her stay, or towards the end. That's how I'd done it if it were me, have my parents there well in advance so they can rest, be measured for outfits properly and show them around, and then have them for a while there after the wedding too :dontknow: Doria was there for barely a whole week, if even that. Her "dignified" stance at the wedding was I bet just an effort to not fall asleep from jetlag and exhaustion. At her age such travel & action straight after is even more exhausting, and also quite dangerous (longhaul flights & blood clots anyone? young or old, though younger women are more affected than older).

Wouldn't also surprise me if she'd dropped her mother, as it looked all this time, but then again her black mother is good for black Meghan's image.
Boo the old white man! Don't you dare say Murky comes from privilege!

Doria may not have quit her job yet, but whispers of what's to come are still there. She's either planning to quit or has quit so to say, with a great advance notice. Perhaps helping to train her replacement etc.

Either way, Doria is still the unknown for me, in terms of Murky either having ditched her or not. Maybe Doria plans a move and Murky is like "hmmm sure mom" (but actually: no; that's kinda the polite English way of saying "no" anyway and Murky is a Brit in the making :tehe: )


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 12, 2018, 02:24:06 pm
More and more are beginning to realise that Thomas Markle is the one telling the truth ie how he worked hard etc etc to give Meghan the best then was dumped.   Just to remind his supporters to check out his GFM page with surplus going to Africa via Oxfam to help people get a start in life.


https://www.gofundme.com/manage/a-royal-title-for-thomas-markle


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 12, 2018, 02:25:28 pm
Meghan is bi-racial black and white. Today there are many bi-racial people so it is not rare anymore. It's not Imitation of Life era anymore.

I don't feel sorry for Tom. If he were sincere he would not run to the media like his daughter Samantha (for $$$).

I did feel sorry for him before and Yes, I think he was invited to the wedding.

I'm glad Doria is keeping her mouth shut. I think she loves her daughter.

Tom can be funded on Go Fund Me but to me he is no victim. I think Samantha has gotten him under her influence.

What is the truth? His version? Meghan's version? and somewhere in the middle , the Truth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 12, 2018, 03:33:43 pm
The truth is simple.  Meghan drops people including family and dogs when it suits her and the time comes that it suits her to drop the royal family she'll do that to in a heartbeat. But not before she gains personal Fame and Fortune on her own so she doesn't need them and that will take some time


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 12, 2018, 04:08:00 pm
Meghan Markle's mother Doria, 61, 'is preparing to MOVE to Britain as soon as next month' to be closer to her daughter
Meghan Markle’s mother Doria Ragland - the only member of the bride’s family at the royal wedding - is said to be ‘preparing to move to Britain’ to be closer to her daughter.
The 61-year-old is apparently ‘beside herself with excitement’ at soon becoming neighbours of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
One friend has said Doria could be making the move as soon as next month, in time for her 62nd birthday.
Doria was reportedly ‘deeply impressed’ by the Royal Family, especially the Queen, during and after her daughter’s wedding, revealed the Express.
Unlike her ex-husband Thomas Markle, and the many other relatives who seemingly cashed in on the marriage with exclusive interviews, Doria has never publicly said anything about her daughter’s royal journey.
Still much in her daughter's life, Doria has already started to prepare for her departure to London after she quit her job as a social worker for the Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services clinic in Culver City, Los Angeles, in May.
She has also been spotted with a security guard since around November who goes with her whenever she occasionally returns back to her home, a close friend in LA said last night.
‘She is getting ready to move to London. I think she will be going as soon as possible. I know that she was eager to live closer to her daughter.
‘She also fell in love with England and told me when she got back that it’s somewhere she believes she too could happily live,’ the source added.
Another neighbour in the LA area of Windsor Hills added: ‘Doria and Meghan have always been inseparable. Doria is beside herself with excitement at the thought of moving to London.
Meghan, who grew up in Windsor Hills, has previously said in interviews that she misses the LA lifestyle of ‘palm trees, the heat of the sun and the ocean breeze’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6051951/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-61-preparing-Britain-soon-month.html

Revealed: Meghan wants to 'take time out' from her estranged father Thomas Markle after he revealed he hung up on Prince Harry in a heated phone call about his staged paparazzi photos
Meghan wants to 'take a bit of time out' from her father Thomas Markle according to new reports.
And now sources claim that although Meghan, 37, does want to maintain a relationship with her father she feels they need time apart.
Speaking to The Sun a US source said:  'Meghan loves Thomas and does want to maintain a relationship with him in the long run.
'But at the moment she feels he needs and bit of space. She also wants to take a bit of time out.'
Adding that the newly minted Duchess wants to focus on settling into royal life she has reportedly admitted there is no 'quick fix' for her relationship with her father.
MailOnline has contacted Kensington Palace for a comment.  :tehe: why bother when there'll be stone silence.  :cookie:
Mr Markle added: 'I'm not mad at Harry. I'm not mad at Meghan. I love them. I wish them well. But as for the rest of it, f*** it. I'm done.'
Kensington Palace declined to comment last night.  :bored:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6052057/Meghan-wants-time-estranged-father-Thomas-Markle.html

Rinse, repaet.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 12, 2018, 10:51:47 pm
The Royals' handling of the Thomas Markle debacle is turning into an existential crisis: RICHARD KAY on the ruinous price of freezing him out
Over the years August has been the cruellest of months for the royals, from the humiliation of the toe-sucking escapades of the Duchess of York to the embarrassment of the ‘squidgy tape’ which exposed the family to ridicule and confirmed the desperate state of Princess Diana’s marriage to Prince Charles.
But this weekend’s revelations from the Duchess of Sussex’s father in which he claimed he had been berated on the phone by Prince Harry while recovering in hospital from a heart attack, and had been told by his daughter that he would be unable to deliver a father-of-the-bride speech at their wedding, is fast turning into an existential crisis for the Queen’s family.
Even though it is impossible not to have some sympathy for Meghan who is finding adjustment to royal life hard enough, the tragedy of it all is that it is a crisis entirely of the Palace’s making.
I have spoken to past and serving royal aides who believe the response and handling of the whole Thomas Markle affair has been both ‘inept’ and ‘feeble’.
There is even some fellow-feeling for Mr Markle who clearly feels ostracised by his daughter and son in law.
Yesterday one figure said it was ‘probably too late’ to get the retired TV lighting director back on side short of Meghan herself ‘turning up on her father’s doorstep – and even that might not work now.’
Quite how this situation has been allowed to unravel – and so publicly – is certain to dominate conversation at Balmoral where the Queen and other members of the Royal Family are gathering for their summer holiday.
Yesterday’s claims from Markle make disturbing reading. In an interview with the Mail on Sunday, he said he had hung up on Harry during a heated telephone call a few days before the May wedding.
Although he accepted that the prince was right to reprimand him over his collusion with the paparazzi in which he staged photographs of him being fitted for a morning suit, he described the timing of the call as ‘rude’.
While admitting he lied to Harry about it, he added: ‘There is a time and a place to say what he said but not when I’m lying in hospital after a heart attack.’
Perhaps more damaging was his revelation that Meghan told him there would be ‘no room’ for him to make a speech at their Windsor wedding. Yet room was found for speeches from Harry, Meghan herself, Prince Charles and Prince William along with contributions from two friends at a later reception.
For the royals this is dangerous and unfamiliar territory. Even when Diana was provoking detrimental headlines there was rarely the sense that the Palace had completely lost control as there is today.
Markle emerges as a bitter but proud man who feels angry at the way he has been portrayed – ‘I’m no weirdo schlubby dad living in a shack in Mexico,’ he exclaims at one point – but also burning with injustice at how he perceives he has been treated by his daughter and Harry.
Markle, 74, made headlines when he pulled out of the wedding a few days before he was due to walk Meghan down the aisle at St George’s Chapel citing his health problems. (By coincidence, a decision which came 24 hours after his scheming with the paparazzi had been exposed.)
He claimed he even asked Meghan to invite all her half siblings and nieces and nephews – a suggestion she firmly rejected. And in the light of the constant attacks on her by wider members of the Markle clan over the past few months, it is a decision she may now regret.
All in all it is impossible to escape the conclusion that Kensington Palace and other courtiers responsible for the wedding arrangements blundered when it came to dealing with Mr Markle.
Yes, he was invited and Meghan had arranged fittings for a wedding coat and shoes. As I revealed last month, she told him just to get on a plane and everything would be arranged for him in London.
A Palace aide involved in the arrangements for Prince William’s wedding to Kate Middleton in 2011 certainly believes that the handling of Mr Markle has been ‘inept.’
The aide said: ‘The perception is that he was treated very much as an afterthought. No one went to visit him when the answer would have been to have someone fly out from London and explain to him how things were going to happen.
‘Even after he started talking to the media it was not too late. When Kate’s uncle Gary found himself in the newspaper spotlight [Gary Goldsmith was the focus of lurid headlines about alleged drug taking] he was brought into the fold, not excluded.
‘He was told he would be invited to everything but that if he felt inclined to speak out and give interviews, we asked that he let us know in advance so that we would be prepared. No one seems to have thought of that this time.’
At one stage, after Markle gave his interview to TV presenter Piers Morgan in June, it was suggested that a leading public relations figure might act as a go-between. I understand, however, that when senior aides learned that the PR man was a former journalist, the plan was dropped.
‘Prince Harry does not trust the media and he would never have supported that idea,’ says a source. ‘Frankly they should have been prepared to try anything by that stage.
‘The trouble stemmed from well before the wedding when there must have been an opportunity for Harry and Meghan to pay a private visit to her father. This was long before he started giving interviews.’
The aide adds: ‘I also think the Palace should have invited the whole Markle family; they wouldn’t all have come and it would made them feel included and less likely to make the negative comments they have been making.’
Another aide with years of experience at the heart of the Royal Family says: ‘It’s too late now for equerries or go-betweens to get to Mr Markle, it’s up to Meghan. She clearly loves him enough to have wanted him at her wedding so she needs to go and spend time with him.
‘Clearly there is an issue of trust – will he blab about everything to the next microphone put under his nose? But he didn’t talk to the media for a long time earlier on.
‘I would be encouraging her to say to him, “Daddy, you are part of the family, come and meet everyone and we will put something in place for you”.’
For now this latest Markle debacle is nothing short of a disaster for both Harry and Meghan – and for the royals. If, as Markle says, this was his ‘last interview’ then maybe this is just the opportunity for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to take him at his word and get on that plane.
If they don’t, I fear this domestic tragedy will unspool even further.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6053117/RICHARD-KAY-Royals-handling-Thomas-Markle-debacle-turning-existential-crisis.html
KP is clearly saying that it’s nothing to do with them or the royal family otherwise, the Markle’s would’ve been sorted out during the dating prior to the engagement. It’s solely up to Meghan to sort out her family mess.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Little light on August 12, 2018, 11:08:13 pm
This is just my opinion only, but I have a feeling that Meghan stirs all these troubles and/or instigates them for her own purposes.

It seems like she's causing division within her own family just to make it harder to out her (by which I mean get a divorce) because she'll go pleading to Harry that her immediate family is in tatters because of all the media intrusion and there's nothing to go back to, so you'll just have to keep me.

Now I've no idea if they're getting on or not, but it's just a nagging feeling, with nothing to back it up, that Meghan could be stirring up trouble to keep her within the royal fold.

And it's IMHO only.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 12, 2018, 11:15:17 pm
^I’ve got the same feeling.  That she's using and manipulating this to receive pity, protection and keeping things muddied enough to keep things in a state of personal, dramatic distress. 

This created drama is all on Harry and this horrid woman.  It’s not the advisors job to clean up after them.  They can advise but I believe Harry is too stubborn and will go to the wall to keep this going his or their way.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 12, 2018, 11:28:36 pm
The truth is simple.  Meghan drops people including family and dogs when it suits her and the time comes that it suits her to drop the royal family she'll do that to in a heartbeat. But not before she gains personal Fame and Fortune on her own so she doesn't need them and that will take some time

THere is more to it. Her father appears to have dropped her by running to the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on August 12, 2018, 11:38:12 pm
^^^ & ^^ Absolutely.

Key quotes that stuck out to me

"For the royals this is dangerous and unfamiliar territory. Even when Diana was provoking detrimental headlines there was rarely the sense that the Palace had completely lost control as there is today."

"A Palace aide involved in the arrangements for Prince William’s wedding to Kate Middleton in 2011 certainly believes that the handling of Mr Markle has been ‘inept.’

The aide said: ‘The perception is that he was treated very much as an afterthought. No one went to visit him when the answer would have been to have someone fly out from London and explain to him how things were going to happen.

Even after he started talking to the media it was not too late. When Kate’s uncle Gary found himself in the newspaper spotlight [Gary Goldsmith was the focus of lurid headlines about alleged drug taking] he was brought into the fold, not excluded.

He was told he would be invited to everything but that if he felt inclined to speak out and give interviews, we asked that he let us know in advance so that we would be prepared. No one seems to have thought of that this time.’"

"‘Prince Harry does not trust the media and he would never have supported that idea,’ says a source. ‘Frankly they should have been prepared to try anything by that stage.

‘The trouble stemmed from well before the wedding when there must have been an opportunity for Harry and Meghan to pay a private visit to her father. This was long before he started giving interviews.’

The aide adds: ‘I also think the Palace should have invited the whole Markle family; they wouldn’t all have come and it would made them feel included and less likely to make the negative comments they have been making.

Another aide with years of experience at the heart of the Royal Family says: ‘It’s too late now for equerries or go-betweens to get to Mr Markle, it’s up to Meghan."

The Midds & aides were a lot smarter in handling their black sheep (uncle Fester), so I don't know why and how they all let the Markles slip this bad.
I do think Meg is behind all this, ignoring every advice she may have been given and simply decided she'd drop people like she did before, never expecting it would backfire this terribly. But with Haz it might give her full points, but on the "poor me! My terrible family!" act and boom, got the innocent little lamb game going even further. Men are dumb. Sorry, but it's true.
I still don't get why the diplomat uncle was left off the guest list, but hey...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 12, 2018, 11:45:17 pm
 Tom Sr is on a roll and won't keep quiet. I doubt Meghan is encouraging it--she wants to appear "perfect" and scheming with her father to badmouth her IMO would not be a likely scenario. I think Sam got Tom Sr. to get on the Gravy Train. Tom was stable enough to get steady work years ago. I thought he was just an eccentric but I think there is a mean streak.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 13, 2018, 12:15:40 am
Great DM comment

‘I love this guy. He is refusing to bend the knee to an outdated ideology who hung themselves with their own petard when they allowed cash/title-seeking commoners into their little club. When the Queen passes l am done. Would rather die than bend the knee to House of Middleton


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 13, 2018, 01:14:46 am
Meghan is INHUMANE! Duchess's sister blasts Prince Harry's new bride for her 'cruel' treatment of her father – as he reveals fears he will NEVER see her again
Last night Samantha Markle described Meghan's diplomacy skills as 'inhumane' as she savaged her half-sister for 'freezing out' her father.
She said: 'There would be no just reason for her not to want him in her life, as he was good enough to use to make her everything she is.'
Thomas Markle Jr said Meghan was 'abusing' her father's love calling the former actress's behaviour 'selfish, cruel even'.
He said he had wanted to 'say a few words' at the royal wedding, saying it 'hurt' that he was not given the chance to make a speech.
The 51-year-old said: 'It's heartbreaking to see how this has changed her and the devastation it has caused to my family.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6053403/Meghans-sister-blasts-Duchess-inhumane-cruel-treatment-father.html
 :bored: :oooh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 13, 2018, 02:08:59 am
Great DM comment

‘I love this guy. He is refusing to bend the knee to an outdated ideology who hung themselves with their own petard when they allowed cash/title-seeking commoners into their little club. When the Queen passes l am done. Would rather die than bend the knee to House of Middleton


So true!  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 13, 2018, 02:59:27 am
'I'm locked out of Meghan's life… and that's OK by me!': Thomas Markle says he may never see or hear from his royal daughter again after bombshell interviews
Mr Markle said he wanted to go on holiday and leave the furore with the royal family behind, he told The Sun.
He said: 'I want to say good luck and God bless to my daughter. I don't expect to see her or hear back from her — and that's OK.
'All I was doing was saying things I wanted to say. I just want to re-establish the relationship with my daughter.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6053581/Thomas-Markle-says-never-hear-royal-daughter-bombshell-interviews.html
cover of the Sun newspaper:
https://78.media.tumblr.com/c76c0a866fed1c1cfd028a735bccd9a9/tumblr_inline_pddlmlfNMt1uvtid8_500.png
 :oooh: 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 13, 2018, 05:07:22 am
Harry's coming in for a lot of criticism about the phone call he allegedly made to murky's Dad, so much for the caring Harry. He's nothing like his mother despite what some would have us believe.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 13, 2018, 07:14:00 am
Harry has no business demanding that anyone remain quiet; Thomas is an American citizen and he doesn't owe Harry anything, still less any kind of obedience.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 13, 2018, 07:36:00 am
A suggestion on another forum that when Doria ‘arrives’ in London Uncle Gary should escort her about and explain the ways of the Royals as they have so much in common.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 13, 2018, 08:17:22 am
Harry should look at who's at fault here. It ain't the father who acts with a lot more class and decorum than both of the Excesses together.

Doria -I feel that she will soon need a thread on her own. If any of the media can do us the favor and exposes her for cashing in too, then exposes Murky for blabbing and leaking to the press - it would be fantastic.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 13, 2018, 12:40:18 pm
Are Royals paying a ruinous price for freezing out Meghan's dad? RICHARD KAY reveals top aides fear family's 'inept and feeble' handling of Thomas Markle debacle is turning into an existential crisis after his third explosive interview
For now this latest Markle debacle is nothing short of a disaster for both Harry and Meghan – and for the royals. If, as Markle says, this was his ‘last interview’ then maybe this is just the opportunity for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to take him at his word and get on that plane.
If they don’t, I fear this domestic tragedy will unspool even further.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6053117/RICHARD-KAY-Royals-handling-Thomas-Markle-debacle-turning-existential-crisis.html
It’s the same article by Richard Kay, just the headline’s changed.
According to an article yesterday, Meghan’s taking a break from her dad, so she won’t go to see him and Harry’s not interfering as it’s nothing to do with him.
This will continue on with snippets of Thomas long interview being dropped in the press on a daily basis until something happens to stop this such as bad stuff about Meghan and her activities and Doria’s possible criminal record comes to light. I think that Meghan will start to unleash on Harry for not sorting out her family drama.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 02:01:49 pm
^This man is right and I wonder what or if the BRF are going to do for any damage control.  So far, doing nothing seems to be the tactic and I'm not sure it's working out so well. 

But, when I think more about it, it's too late now for much of anything.  It will all look phony baloney.  I still stand by what I said ages ago.  She should invite every single member of her family to her wedding and let the onus of behavior be on their heads.  None of this would be happening now.

Inviting George Clooney and Oprah but not blood relatives says it all about where the Markle family stands in the dreams of glory department.

Did nobody look at the long view?  That's HM's specialty for heaven's sake.  What about if her father dies or she has a baby?  Like it or lump it, he's the grandfather.  This treatment of her father especially will shadow the both of them for a long time. 

They appear cold and uncaring which, more than anything else, affects their charitable muscle.  Whatever the truth is doesn't matter.  Image does.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 13, 2018, 02:51:32 pm
^
I couldn’t agree more and they will have trouble passing themselves off as caring humanitarians now.   Harry seems dumber and dumber by the minute.  He certainly isn’t the charismatic much loved by the public Prince any more.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 13, 2018, 03:33:02 pm
As always it's a matter of opinion who to blame or who is at fault. Of course. But as I see it it's no coincidence that Sam is now double teaming with Dad. I think the two are out for the $$$$. I do think Dad thought he'd be in the money when his daughter married Harry and it did not happen. He got angry and upset. A lot of action behind the scenes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 13, 2018, 03:42:40 pm
I'm with you on that one, sandy. Most likely they all went asking for monthly upkeep, CP said: No, Harry, I will not pay these people because of your choice of a bride.  If you want to pay them, get the money out of your own pocket. Harry said no and now they make their money giving interviews to the press... pretty much what Meghan did with her blog. Samantha should create her own goop blog too. 

IMO HM is sipping her brandy and waiting for Harry's name to be tarnished for life. If he wanted to get married to the Markle family, against the councel of all people around him (per one of the possible versions of what's really happening), then he needs to learn his lesson and the only way to do it is if he loses everything that's dear to him: his name, his reputation, his A+ list status that draws the crowds and the donations to his charitable projects.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 13, 2018, 03:50:44 pm
Harry IMO is very much needed as a royal and he is still not totally unpopular. Since he is in the scaled down vision he and his wife need to work to offset some of the laziness in his immediate family. Meghan is estranged from the father and her half siblings. I don't know what went on behind the scenes. Samantha is the lost cause, Tom Sr. supposedly was the eccentric one who had to be coaxed to attend the wedding in "society." I think Tom Sr. was expecting a big payday from this. I doubt Meghan who wanted to marry into the RF would make promises to give Daddy money. And a lot of it. Harry is close to the Queen by all accounts  and I doubt she wants Harry to "suffer" and I doubt would tell her he wants her to pay for the Markles and house them. I would only imagine the headaches Sam would cause running around outside a royal residence whining. I think the father had "great expectations" about his soft life after his daughter married a Prince.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 04:02:19 pm
There's no shortage of greed in the BRF either.  The Markles should have been included in the dynamic duo's special day.  From that point on, all sympathy would have been with Sparkles and Harry.  They and they alone blew it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 13, 2018, 04:11:03 pm
Even before the invites went out, Sam was going to the media trashing Meghan. If all three Markles had just not rushed to air grievances, I think they would indeed have gotten invitations. Sam could have made a big scene at the wedding with an embarrassing photo of her perhaps having to be escorted out. Lots of loose cannon action. Yes, they should have been included but I don't get all the trashing even before the invites went out. It's like Sam did not want to attend and doing everything she could to ensure she would not be invited. Weird. IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 04:16:43 pm
^It's all very weird but if you're selling the humanitarian schtick, you rise above it.  If she had, the Markles would have zero ammo.

I don't understand how hard this is for these two nimrods to understand.  Very frustrating.

Beware of Beginnings still stands.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 13, 2018, 04:19:31 pm
Meghan never invited Tomas to the wedding. He started acting out after Hollywood started sending blinds that they received invites. This is on Meghan, ad Harry cause he's married to her now and he's a Markle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 13, 2018, 04:20:19 pm
Yooper, I think it's difficult for Harry because he has always had people following him around to clean up whatever mess he made. It's just not happening this time.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 04:25:21 pm
^So true.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 13, 2018, 05:47:14 pm
In my humble opinion, if Harry and Co wanted a wedding without the Markle family, then they should have had a civil ceremony with neither sets of parental figures or family from either side present.  Either that, or what Yooper has said repeatedly.  The Markle’s should all have been invited.  Period.  Then, any poor behavior wouldn’t reflect on H or M.

As it stands, both Excesses have their names tarnished.  :thumbsdown: 

Why Harry married this woman I’ll never know or even figure out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 13, 2018, 06:10:46 pm
I think if they were invited there was fear of their causing scenes. IMO. I think Samantha particularly is a loose cannon. A disruptive wedding would have caused more criticism. It was damned if they did damned if they didn't.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 06:30:21 pm
^So what if they did?  All sympathy would still have gone to Sparkles as long as she maintained her dignity and was kind and silent.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 13, 2018, 06:47:03 pm
 :tehe: Dignity is to be had in the first place in order to be maintained.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 13, 2018, 06:48:20 pm
Hello Canada have - bizarrely and worryingly - refused to print the details of Thomas Markle's interview 'out of respect' for Harry and Meghan. Luckily I can't see the US and UK press falling for this sycophantic BS.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 06:50:15 pm
^ Would someone (Fly?) please post full text of T Markle interview?  Thank you!!!  That’s outrageous censorship, Canada.  I’m disappointed.

^^Yeah, that wasn’t gonna happen.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 13, 2018, 09:01:18 pm
Meghan never invited Tomas to the wedding. He started acting out after Hollywood started sending blinds that they received invites. This is on Meghan, ad Harry cause he's married to her now and he's a Markle.

Yes. And to add to this, Samantha was saying positive things until Harry made that bonehead comment about his family being the one she never had. These two events were catalysts to all heck breaking loose with the Markles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on August 13, 2018, 11:36:13 pm
Hello has always been like that. Even buying photos so they are not released. It is not really censorship but their style. Always pro royals and never talking about controversial issues. In fact it is easy to see when they dont like someone when reading between lines they are kinda low key bitchy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 13, 2018, 11:53:44 pm
^ Would someone (Fly?) please post full text of T Markle interview?  Thank you!!!  That’s outrageous censorship, Canada.  I’m disappointed.

^^Yeah, that wasn’t gonna happen.

Well, thank the UK and the royals who bleat about every invasion of privacy. I don't think the U.S. ought to be ashamed at Canada with how they treat their journalists, etc. Just saying.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 13, 2018, 11:56:11 pm
^Agreed.  I just don’t understand a complete blackout if that’s what this is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 14, 2018, 03:22:50 am
Meg's rating in the UK is dropping like a lead with no chance of ever getting it back up.  :cookie:
https://78.media.tumblr.com/53ae2158e3a45bdf9ec0ea7a18c397a6/tumblr_pdf6vlX6cE1xpn99lo1_1280.jpg

DM comments regarding Doria spending time in jail.  :cookie:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176969014528/httpwwwdailymailcoukfemailarticle-6055419m


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on August 14, 2018, 03:45:55 am
Just gets batter and better!  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 14, 2018, 03:54:39 am
Piers Morgan weighing in on this mess with Thomas. The longer this goes on, the more of her and her family's dirt comes out. Remeber in Andrew Morton's book it said that Thomas expected a payout. I expect Andrew to release and updated book about M and this whole business including Doria's alleged arrest records, M's rumored pay-to-play allegations, etc.
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1029038016537538571

‘Prince Harry will be next’ Meghan’s sister Samantha says relationship WON’T LAST
MEGHAN Markle’s half-sister Samantha argued the Duchess of Sussex’ marriage with Prince Harry won’t last, as she will turn on him like she has her father Thomas.
In a string of tweets addressed directly to Kensington Palace, Samantha issued a warning to the Duke of Sussex, claiming their marriage won’t last.
She wrote: “If you treat your own father like this, Harry is next.”
Samantha also took her father’s side, branding Meghan a “deceitful fake humanitarian”.
She added: “There would be no just reason for her not to want him in her life, as he was good enough to use to make her everything she is.
“She should be grateful. Her diplomacy skills suck and are inhumane.
“Freezing people out is the best way of hiding the truth.
“There is no room for a greedy arrogant, deceitful fake humanitarian on this world stage.
“How dare she? Disgusting.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1002679/meghan-markle-prince-harry-samantha-grant-thomas-markle-royal-family-news
Quite right too. IMO, she's been exposed to the world now and wont be able to do anything after she splits from Harry, or better yet, Harry boots her out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 14, 2018, 03:55:53 am
^WOW! This is bananas.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on August 14, 2018, 07:16:26 am
Doesn't appear that Piers is getting too much support to his statement that he is sorry for Tom Snr on his Twitter. And he's berated Samantha on GMB. I've noticed over the last weeks that even Fail comments are turning away from the Markles in large numbers. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 14, 2018, 07:36:18 am
^I disagree. Just look at the comments on the articles with Thomas. More and more people give the green arrow on comments around what snake Meghan is

^^^I'd like to see in the book about the first husband, the annulled marriage, Doria's character as this is hidden from us so far, and most importantly - on  what grounds this performance in church was not a legally binding ceremony and marriage. Everything on the wedding day smelled  like a "now you see me" con and I just want to know what I missed.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 14, 2018, 09:55:12 am
Meghan is not liked in the UK. The cost of the wedding, the fact she only dated Harry for a few months and pulled the race card almost immediately, her sleazy Deal or No Deal background, her bleating about feminism, and the cost of her clothes have not endeared her to the British public. Kate is getting more popular because she has been on maternity leave (so no one notices her lack of work) and she has had the sense to not wade into politics.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 14, 2018, 12:03:18 pm
Piers Morgan weighing in on this mess with Thomas. The longer this goes on, the more of her and her family's dirt comes out. Remeber in Andrew Morton's book it said that Thomas expected a payout. I expect Andrew to release and updated book about M and this whole business including Doria's alleged arrest records, M's rumored pay-to-play allegations, etc.
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1029038016537538571

‘Prince Harry will be next’ Meghan’s sister Samantha says relationship WON’T LAST
MEGHAN Markle’s half-sister Samantha argued the Duchess of Sussex’ marriage with Prince Harry won’t last, as she will turn on him like she has her father Thomas.
In a string of tweets addressed directly to Kensington Palace, Samantha issued a warning to the Duke of Sussex, claiming their marriage won’t last.
She wrote: “If you treat your own father like this, Harry is next.”
Samantha also took her father’s side, branding Meghan a “deceitful fake humanitarian”.
She added: “There would be no just reason for her not to want him in her life, as he was good enough to use to make her everything she is.
“She should be grateful. Her diplomacy skills suck and are inhumane.
“Freezing people out is the best way of hiding the truth.
“There is no room for a greedy arrogant, deceitful fake humanitarian on this world stage.
“How dare she? Disgusting.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1002679/meghan-markle-prince-harry-samantha-grant-thomas-markle-royal-family-news
Quite right too. IMO, she's been exposed to the world now and wont be able to do anything after she splits from Harry, or better yet, Harry boots her out.

Samantha to me is bitter and spiteful. She is known to detest her sister which does not mean divorce. IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 14, 2018, 12:21:28 pm
It's old news but I just read the 19/01/2018 In Touch (USA) article Samantha gave and in it Samantha claims the rift started in 2016 when Doria tried to close the family off so as not to embarrass Megan and that Doria wants to live in the palace with Mr and Mrs Murky. IMO she makes it sound like Doria is just like Ma Medd but on the down low. That is exactly what I believe. Both mum's pushing, conspiring with their daughters to get a prince down the isle whether the prince wanted that or not (and the answer is usually no, the prince does not). I wouldn't be surprised if that news came out.

I did not come away with the claim that Murky didn't have anything to do with her family since she was a little or young girl. Where did that story come from? Re-writing history, perhaps? :dontknow:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 14, 2018, 12:35:38 pm
Piers Morgan’s right.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/image/176975167303

Palace getting involved? No, pr nonsense. What aggressive strategy can the palace have to deal with Thomas when he’s just exercising his American right of free speech? Dummy needs to get on a plane back to America and stay there.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/176975588868/jadeamberrose-skippyisheretostay-so-now-the


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 14, 2018, 12:57:02 pm
As I said before - I do not believe that Doria is innocent in all of this. She married on General Hospital the lightning director while she was just a temp and less than a year after he's divorced, remarried and with a child that requires the private schools that his other 2 kids did not require. Also, young children dream of becoming princesses as part of the Disney Princess movies. Till about 8 years old they grow out of it. But no, Megan wanted to be queen, to boss people around, to have others bow down to her. How does an 8 years old come up on her own with such desires ..


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 14, 2018, 01:33:58 pm
^Agreed.  I just don’t understand a complete blackout if that’s what this is.

Hello! is useless everywhere. lol  :flower: Trust me that the cries of privacy and preferential treatment get to Canada fast. Middletons were complaining long before THEY became "the British royal family". I could go on, but won't.

Don't you know that Wasty's grandfather served in Canada, dontcha know?  :bored:  :spy:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 14, 2018, 01:37:26 pm
^Amazing.  Scrapping free speech for these two yahoos.  Boggles my mind.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 14, 2018, 02:46:51 pm
What is interesting is that the DM comments about Doria say again that she was arrested a few times, that she was in jail for some years. And most importantly - they say that the Markles know about those skeletons. Maybe that's why Meghan didn't want them anywhere near her new mark: brf.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Alexandrine on August 14, 2018, 02:55:09 pm
I doubt it happened. TMZ could have published that months ago.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 14, 2018, 02:57:45 pm
I can maybe find out if she was in jail if in LA. Not that it matters one way or the other because she seems like a nice enough person and a lot of people do drugs. All but legal now it's hard to go to jail on a drug charge unless you're a dealer.  but I would like to know if it's true or not and if I find out I'll let you know. Doria still seems the best of them to me even if she's trying to be royal herself now


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 14, 2018, 04:24:49 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle will not speak to her father unless he reaches out to her in a 'respectful manner' and finally stops giving interviews, close friend says
Meghan Markle will not speak to her father Thomas until he makes contact in a 'respectful manner' and stops airing his grievances in public, DailyMail.com has learned.
The Duchess of Sussex, 37, has not spoken to Markle Sr since shortly after her wedding to Prince Harry in May when the royal, 33, allegedly berated the retiree for staging a series of fake photos with a Los Angeles-based paparazzi photographer.
Since then, the 74-year-old has gone on to give a series of interviews in which he claimed Meghan would be better off 'if I was dead' and said he had been cut off by Kensington Palace and has no way of contacting his youngest daughter.
But a close friend of the 37-year-old has now told DailyMail.com that Markle Sr does have a means of contacting Meghan – via her mother Doria Ragland, 62.
'The only reason Meghan hasn't spoken to her father yet is because she's yet to hear from him in a respectful manner,' the source told DailyMail.com.
'Thomas is speaking to the press more than he's reached out and spoken to his own daughter.'
The friend added: 'Despite Thomas's claim that he has no way to reach Meghan, he knows that her mother Doria is in touch with her and Thomas knows how to reach Doria.
'If Thomas truly wanted to speak with Meghan, he could easily have sent a letter to her mother and asked her to pass it along.
'Unfortunately that wouldn't sell papers or fit into his fabricated and salacious narrative.'
The pair have a history of rifts, as DailyMail.com has previously revealed, with Markle Sr claiming the latest one began because Meghan asked him to cut off contact with her half-sister Samantha.
Kensington Palace has been approached for comment by DailyMail.com.  :bored: Not the royal family’s problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6056871/Meghan-Markle-spoken-dad-contacted-respectful-manner.html
What nonsense is this? A simple phone call to him from her would nip this so why would she expect her dad writing to write to her and give the letter to her Mum so she could pass it along? How’s getting your mum involved in this operating in a respectable manner?  ???  
Thomas isn’t going to do that and hopefully will continue to exercise his right to free speech and that’s what’s brilliant about this situation is the fact that no one can shut him up. Sleek on Thomas and continue to spill the beans on your trolop of a daughter.
Comments:
isabella f, Manhattan, United States, less than a minute ago
If Doria can reach Meghan by post why can't Tom Sr? Is there some special address to use to ensure the letter is received and Meghan sees it? What would be the harm in her father also having that access? And how would Tom Sr be aware Doria could get a letter to Meghan? The "friend of Meghan's" story doesn't really make sense.
Muiden2018, Portland, United States, moments ago
This is totally ridiculous now. He is talking to the media so he can communicate and send messages to MM and in turn MM is talking to friends who go to the media so that she may communicate and send him messages. A grown up really needs to step in and put an end to this mess.
Bvhgyt, Rio, United Kingdom, moments ago
Nope, MeMe; nope Harry. She cannot pretend she has been waiting to hear from him. He made the point that she CHANGED THE NUMBER SHE HAD GIVEN HIM. As for writing, how many letters are sent to the RF every day? A letter would never reach anyone behind palace walls.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 14, 2018, 04:30:10 pm
So she ditched her family, didn't invite most of them to the wedding, used them to position herself as a vulnerable little lamb, and totally cut off Thomas's access to her, and now she's expecting a radio silence from him and total cooperation before she'll even get in touch? I hope Thomas and Samantha continue exposing everything and showing her up as the grasping, manipulative liar that she is.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 14, 2018, 04:53:09 pm
I really wish they'd spill something juicy. These articles are rehashed over and over and telling us very little. Out with it!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Little light on August 14, 2018, 05:06:47 pm
What caring responsible and loving adult child would expect their own father to disown any other children he has?

Meghan. She of the massive ego, of course. What she is asking is outrageous and insensitive. And all the Me-again is doing is showing her true colours.

And dad and sis have every right to talk. It’s protected in the Constitution.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 14, 2018, 05:40:43 pm
Palace aides are considering a ‘more aggressive’ strategy towards Meghan’s father Thomas Markle following his latest public outbursts
Palace aides are now considering a 'more aggressive' strategy towards Thomas Markle following his latest public outbursts, sources say.
Insiders have suggested Kensington Palace is 're-evaluating its options' when it comes to stopping the stream of comments made by Meghan's father.
A source told Entertainment Tonight the Palace is considering its options when it comes to both Mr Markle and Meghan's half-sister Samantha, who is set to appear in the new series of Celebrity Big Brother.
The insider said: 'The Palace, who normally takes a firm policy of not commenting on personal matters, is now considering a more aggressive strategy to deal with the situation with both her father and her sister. No one wants to see this continue.'
However, the source suggested the Palace is 'less concerned' about Samantha 'because she has never had a real relationship with Meghan'.
MailOnline has contacted Kensington Palace for comment.   :bored:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6059557/Palace-considering-aggressive-strategy-Meghans-father-Thomas-Markle.html
The palace is doing no such thing, IMO. The fact is that Thomas is doing nothing wrong. Funny again how there’s no comment speaks volumes. When they do speak it should be that Meghan’s been booted out because she’s the source feeding the press this nonsense. Also, an announcement should be made that the marriage’s annulled and send her on her way.   :cookie:  That’s the aggressive move that the palace should only consider as it would shut down the Markle’s and Meghan and the royal family as well as the national can get some needed peace from this lot.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: leogirl on August 14, 2018, 10:32:30 pm
Why should Thomas Sr have to go through his ex-wife to send a message to his daughter? And why would he believe Doria would pass the letter to Meghan if he did? That's a bit much.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 14, 2018, 10:38:30 pm
Doria is being treated in a far better way than Thomas yet she gave an interview to Oprah Whinfry although not published.   Word out that she was handsomely paid off to keep quiet but Thomas said no one could buy his silence.  He has much support as a sidelined father.   Doria allegedly has a criminal background related to drugs yet is treated differently.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 14, 2018, 10:53:43 pm
^To use MM's words, Doria is much more "on brand" than Tom is for the image she's trying to establish. That interview definitely happened. No one will convince me that Oprah just invited someone she didn't know to her house for yoga and lemon picking just for poops and giggles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 14, 2018, 11:39:15 pm
I don't recall reading anywhere that Oprah interviewed Doria.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 15, 2018, 12:54:00 am
^You may not have read that Oprah interviewed Doria, but why else would Oprah reach out to Doria?

If it wasn't for an interview then it was definitely for an invite to the "black woman marrying into the white royal family" wedding, which is just pathetic on Oprah's end, that because she is black and Meghan is black that you are supposed to be at that wedding?! Oprah wanted to be the "black American representative" at the wedding.  :ick:

I wish Michelle Obama had been invited instead of Oprah, because at least Harry met Michelle so it would make sense that she would be at his wedding.

I also find it interesting from a racial perspective that the RF was able to silence Meghan's black mother but not her white father. :think: What would happen to Meghan if her mother decided to talk, absolutely nothing, just like her dad.

How come no one is following Doria anymore? Not a single picture.  :-


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 15, 2018, 05:13:44 am
^^There you go:

Meghan Markle's mother 'will open up about the racist abuse her daughter has suffered since her engagement to Prince Harry in a groundbreaking interview with Oprah'
Meghan's mother Doria Ragland visited Oprah's $88m California home last week
The women were reportedly brainstorming ideas for a tell-all interview
Ms Ragland will apparently discuss the racist abuse her daughter has suffered
Meghan Markle, 36, will marry Prince Harry, 33, in Windsor Castle on May 19
By NATALIE CORNER FOR MAILONLINE

Meghan Markle's mother is ready to open up about the racist abuse her daughter has suffered as a result of her royal relationship, it has been reported.

Doria Ragland, 61, is said to be ready to share details of Ms Markle's struggle in a 'groundbreaking' interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Ms Ragland, who will play a key role in her daughter's wedding, was seen leaving the TV mogul's $88million (£70million) California home last week.

While the reason for the six-hour visit has not been confirmed, a US TV source has told the Mirror Online that the pair were discussing ideas for a tell-all interview. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5696291/Meghan-Markles-mother-Oprah-set-discuss-racist-abuse.html



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 15, 2018, 10:49:29 am
Meghan uses her mum to play the race card when in reality she looks nothing like her. https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/eFrVykA51K6qfq9uWo8IdiQRwdA/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2018/05/18/800/n/1922398/ceb636aa8c443c65_GettyImages-959884882/i/Meghan-Markle-Doria-Ragland-Arriving-Cliveden-House.jpg They have the same shape eyes and that's it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 15, 2018, 12:17:46 pm
Her dad doesn’t have to give another interview because the ones he’s already given will get snippets turned into articles like this one.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6997085/thomas-markle-says-meghan-mothers-prince-harry-and-dresses-him-the-way-she-wants/
I’ve had a discussion with an American black woman who was so moved by the wedding but now’s turned off and upset at this drama that Meghan’s brought to the royals. She’s upset because nothing like this has ever happened with other women that married in. She doesn’t understand why Meghan just doesn’t call her dad to end the drama as it’s embarrassing. What I like about this is that other people of colour that supposed her are now turning their back on her and feel shame in that the ‘first biracial’ woman in the royal family’s bringing shame and deceit to the table. So there again, she loses the race card argument.

Does Meghan's rift with her dad date back SEVEN years? Royal watchers point out that Thomas Markle wasn't at her 2011 wedding in Jamaica - when she married in front of 100 guests including her mother Doria
As drama continues to swirl thanks to Thomas' continuous public outbursts, eagle-eyed royal fans have pointed out that Thomas was notably absent from Meghan's wedding to film producer Trevor Engleson in Jamaica in 2011.
A handful of media outlets have previously reported that he wasn't there, but his absence takes on a new significance as his difficulties with Meghan, 37, continue to play out in the public eye and indicates that their current issues are nothing new.
Meghan and Trevor tied the knot at the Jamaica Inn in Ocho Rios in front of 100 guests, including Meghan's mother Doria who was pictured paddling in the sea with her daughter during the festivities.
'Meghan's had to deal with a lot of self esteem issues growing up with a narcissist. She has tools to cope with emotional blackmail. She does pray for him.
Earlier this week, a friend confirmed to DailyMail.com that Meghan's issues with her father are long-standing, after he gave an interview saying he'd be better off dead so people would feel sorry for her.
'Behavior like his doesn't happen overnight. Why do you think her parents got divorced in the first place?,' the source told said.
'That's Meghan. She does not have a bad bone in her body, but she's not falling for her dad's crocodile tears. She's been down that road far too many times before.'
Meghan and Trevor separated two years after their wedding in 2013 and divorced in August that year, citing irreconcilable differences.
She started dating Prince Harry in June 2016, but the royal was never introduced to her father in person and only ever spoke to him over the phone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6062837/Does-Meghans-rift-dad-date-SEVEN-years.html
Timeline overlaps with Corey.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 15, 2018, 01:45:52 pm
^ Of course it does.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Miss Hathaway on August 15, 2018, 02:34:47 pm
Why does anyone care about Meggles' trashy family?   Megs is trash, her family is trash . . . why are people exclaiming over the fact that trash is behaving like trash? 

Oh, and they are Americans.  I think Yooper and I pointed this out when Harry engaged himself to his trashy woman -- Americans are not as easily controlled as the Brits are.   So . . . let it all play out.  They're already repeating themselves over and over again.   Everyone is getting bored with them.  None of them are attractive or interesting.   Let it die a natural death.

Just my opinion.

 :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 15, 2018, 02:36:45 pm
It is sad but she is discrediting Americans by her behavior.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Miss Hathaway on August 15, 2018, 02:39:12 pm
^ No, she isn't.  It's all on her and her family.  Has nothing to do with me and mine.  She's a Hollywood creature.  Nothing in common with the Americans in fly-over country. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 15, 2018, 02:42:49 pm
I hope you are right. I wish she would just go away.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 15, 2018, 04:47:24 pm
^^^^^^
The new DM article on Meghan's Jamaican wedding & Thomas not being there is just b-s-. accordingly to other reports

Meghan was NOT married to Trevor in Jamaica.  They were legally and firstly married in a civil ceremony in Los Angeles, CA. Everything else was just-- get high & party.

But it's in Andrew Morton's book-- very specifically. Their wedding was in LA, before Jamaica. That  marriage ceremony on the beach was just for show.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 15, 2018, 05:46:52 pm
Brilliant article by Sarah Whalen on bayoubuzz

https://www.bayoubuzz.com/bb/item/1063545-is-whacky-royal-family-di-cast-for-thomas-markle


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 15, 2018, 06:09:15 pm
DM comment

Luigi15, Waterlooville, 2 minutes ago
Reports everywhere that Doria has a criminal conviction which has been removed from public records. QE ¿intervening again?!  It also said that maybe Meghan had her fake wedding in Jamaica so that Doria could buy some good ganja there!
New


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 15, 2018, 06:14:16 pm
The comment appears to have been removed - too near the truth?!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: india on August 15, 2018, 07:11:51 pm
The worst thing about the Markles is that it makes the abhorrent Middletons look good. The Middletons are just loving this. Especially The Viper. Oh Yes. That Vile Old Evil B*tch's knife knees will be clacking along with her thin Viper lips smacking against her forked viper tongue furiously flickering in and out in a jubilant frenzy celebrating over the shyte show know as the Markles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 15, 2018, 08:31:11 pm
^Carole is soaking all of this in for sure. Next to the Murkys the Midds look absolutely refined.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 15, 2018, 08:55:34 pm
IMO, the Midds will always look bad simply because they’re British and knows what the the royal family stands for. They’re now on par with American trailer trash opportunist. Having as unclothed as the Markle’s is what’s needed to have people perceive the Midds as a classy family. That’s how bad the Midds are.

Now it's Thomas Armani! Meghan Markle's estranged father is set to launch his own menswear collection, claims daughter Samantha
Meghan Markle's estranged father Thomas is apprently gearing up to release his own menswear collection, according to a private tweet posted by his daughter Samantha.
Samantha, who is the Duchess of Sussex's half sister, posted the tweet on Wednesday morning.
It read: 'So excited about my father's new #clothing line for men! Will keep you posted!'
Samantha's tweet concerning her father's upcoming clothing line has been brushed off as yet another publicity stunt by users.
One user called Trish said: 'Meghan's father launching clothes line. Scam is his clothes going to have a label that says '100% made from money I made belittling my daughter in the media!' Wash with care made of 100% green vile that came from Sam's mouth.'   
The role of Meghan Markle's family has been a destabilising one for the Royal Family, with the former trying to cash in on the wedding and exposure of Harry and Meghan.
Samantha Markle, who also goes by Samantha Grant, told Good Morning Britain in July that 'we all have to survive' when talking about cashing in on her famous sibling.
She said: 'Let's face it, we all have to survive. Money makes the world go round, so if you want to call that cashing in, that's fine, but I think no one in media would refuse a paycheck for talking about the royal and, as a family, we're not subject to royal protocol.
'With all due respect, it's not just Meghan. We're entitled to share that,' Samantha continued. 'I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's not disparaging. It's not harmful.' 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6064269/Meghan-Markles-estranged-father-set-launch-menswear-collection-claims-daughter-Samantha.html
Making a pest of themselves hoping for a payoff to go away?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 15, 2018, 08:56:31 pm


Ma mid  could never look refined in a million years.  She has low rent written all over her.

Villagers say she is just chortling with happiness over the Markle debarkle and has a permanent rictus grin on her face.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 15, 2018, 10:56:11 pm
@ Val...An American lawyer friend ran  a background check on Doria Ragland. It does appear to indicate that there is a criminal record on Doria, and it gives a case number. But it looks like all other details are blocked.

Not sure how you get to do this with a public record, unless she was able to have it expunged.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 16, 2018, 12:19:12 am
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/177036000493
This pr fiasco is allowing the royal family to be a hot topic on all forms of social media; the last frontier that they had not much presence and control over their image prior to Meghan. IMO, apart from her possibly being an escort to politicians (Profumo sex scandal was brought up with Meghan staying at the hotel that was linked to the affair) and the desire of the royal family to control their image on social media as well as deal with the dangers of the platform, we have this crazy situation with a low rent tarty actress with social media presence staring in this reality show co-staring the royal family and the Markle’s.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2018, 04:55:59 am
^^If she's off parole for a number of years and do not have other charges you might have your criminal record sealed.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 16, 2018, 05:24:32 am
Of course ma mid is chortling, murky's fiasco is taking attention from the topic that can only be discussed in MO's section


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 16, 2018, 06:16:55 am
^well she shouldn’t get too comfortable with the Markle’s taking center stage because they’re not going to be around much longer and the problem that’s in the MO section will and can’t be hidden as they age.
'They've not given him a f***ing dime back': Thomas Markle is growing 'increasingly bitter' his generosity to children Meghan, Samantha and Thomas Jr is not being repaid
Thomas Markle is growing bitter that his children Meghan, Samantha and Thomas Jr are not helping pay for his retirement despite his generosity in the past, he reportedly told friend.
'While he was working, Tom supported all his children. He was generous. But he made no secret that he expected in his dotage the money he spent on them would be repaid,' the source told the Mirror.
'He says they have not given him a f***ing dime back. He is growing increasingly bitter about it.'
His resentment has only been compounded by the fact Meghan's mother Doria Ragland has been embraced by the Royal family, it is claimed.
Doria - the only member of the bride’s family at the royal wedding - is said to be ‘preparing to move to Britain’ to be closer to her daughter.
The 61-year-old is apparently ‘beside herself with excitement’ at soon becoming neighbors of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
One friend has said Doria could be making the move as soon as next month, in time for her 62nd birthday.
The Mirror reports that money is what initially caused tension between Thomas and his children after he retired seven years ago.
As drama continues to swirl thanks to Thomas' continuous public outbursts, eagle-eyed royal fans have pointed out that Thomas was notably absent from Meghan's wedding to film producer Trevor Engleson in Jamaica in 2011.
A handful of media outlets have previously reported that he wasn't there, but his absence takes on a new significance as his difficulties with Meghan, 37, continue to play out in the public eye and indicates that their current issues are nothing new.
Meghan and Trevor tied the knot at the Jamaica Inn in Ocho Rios in front of 100 guests, including Meghan's mother Doria who was pictured paddling in the sea with her daughter during the festivities.
However, as well as missing out on her big day with Prince Harry in May after reportedly suffering a heart attack, retired lighting director Thomas was not present for the celebrations in Jamaica either.
Kensington Palace declined to comment when approached by MailOnline.     :bored:
Pictures of the wedding, first published in a US magazine, show Meghan in a yellow polka dot bikini next to a table with bottles of local lager, Red Stripe, and surrounded by guests during the celebrations.
Whatever the state of their relationship now, Meghan has enjoyed a close bond with her father in the past.
He sent her to Hollywood's private Little Red Schoolhouse, whose old students include Elizabeth Taylor.
When Meghan was nine he won $750,000 in a lottery and the money helped send Meghan to the $16,000-a-year Immaculate Heart Catholic School, one of LA's finest.
Every day after school she would visit her father on the set of Married... with Children where he worked as a lighting director.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6065477/Thomas-Markle-growing-increasingly-bitter-generosity-children-not-repaid.html
 :oooh:





Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 16, 2018, 06:28:35 am
^Thats baloney.  They had a civil ceremony in LA before the party wedding in Jamaica with immediate family.

^^^That's true.  Only a judge do that but after a certain time a judge can "lock" the conviction.  That does not preclude an employer from gaining access, however, or the military for an enlistment, fed job, app for passport.  Anything or anyone in government or hr depts could find out.

This may explain Doria's social work.  State run social service programs are much more understanding about hiring someone with a conviction, depending upon what it is of course.  Violent felonies, not so easily if at all.  All depends upon a probation report, length of time since release and so on.  This, from all I've heard was drug related.  Selling it makes it a harder felony.

It's amazing to me that the BRF were not more prepared for this.  Their arrogance seems to have gotten in their own way.  Or, as I believe, they had already made a commitment of sorts that would have been challenged by Harry if they didn't allow a full ceremony in London.

There is no way in my mind that there would've been strong support for waiting, meeting the bride's family and getting things stabilized before the wedding.  Harry pushed everyone and believed a lot that wasn't exactly accurate.  He felt he was rescuing her, the dolt, I believe, and they ran with that angle.  "The family she never had" bollocks tells me that much.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 16, 2018, 08:02:28 am
Jason Knauf’s name is being mentioned re getting it all so wrong.  He did the same when first employed at KP a few years ago with willy and waity.  He was nicknamed juggers here because of his hopeless PR.  It’s still being questioned as to why criminal record Doria is being portrayed as a saint when Thomas did all the running to make meggles what she is.  Many saying it had to be that way or the RF would be accused of racism but now they are being accused in the DM comments of plotting to bump Thomas off and warning him to be careful.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 16, 2018, 08:49:31 am
I don´t think anyone, including the murkys, could make the medds look refined.  You only have to look at them to know they are trailer trash and fame wh*res  -  from the same mould both families.  Even council cath never looks the part, sadly for council caro the council estate origins have not left that family  -  she looks as common as muck, and her offspring well, what can we say  -  flat face orangina hanging on to marry money, council cath being pushed to grab bill medd and "make it" for the family.  As for squirrel beard, you would think they could at least train him not to keep putting his hands down the front of his pants.  Not much better than the murkles, in fact I see little between the two families, just in different ways.  Pa medd is the only one who has ever looked a bit on the refined side, the rest no way.  Murky´s family, well they are all doing a good job of trashing her because she has teed them off, big time.  If that is how they think they can squeeze a big pay out from the rf for keeping their mouths closed they have gone the wrong way about it.  HM also has to realise that if she pays them off to shut that is taxpayer money she is using, and why should we pay to shut the murkles up, they are not our problem, it is a personal problem to do the the rf and how weak they were to allow her in.  If dork harry wanted to marry her then go ahead, she should have given him the choice of marry her and bail out of line of succession, or if you want to stay within rf and take the taxpayers for a ride then no marrying murkle.  And look what their weakness has achieved, a vile low life in law family, dork haza with a wife who appears to want to run the show, thumb her nos up at royal protocol and years old traditions, flash herself, lots more, the list is endless.  I was watching a vid on YouTube, where dork haza and murky were in the carriage from the church after that debacle of a wedding, and the boos they were getting, what did that tell them.  Oops, maybe murkle thought it was the British way of cheering  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  Personally, looking at both families, there basically is not a lot of difference.  Look how dread the medds were at the beginning, couldn*t look at a paper without an article/photo op about them. Council caro was not averse to knock HM/the rf, and try to cause trouble in the media.  No less no more than the murkles are doing, except that the murkles get to have free speech in the US, where here the media can be contained to an extent  -  that is the difference.  It appears that both Diana´s simple minded sons have turned to the gutter for their brides  -  wonder if they planned it together those two, does make me wonder.  If murky thinks she is ever going to be accepted by the rf and the British public then she really is in Cloud La La Land.  As a British taxpayer I begrudge every penny the rf gets, and even if I was only paying 2p a year I would still not want to give it.  As for us having to fund Murky, sorry, nothing against the US or Americans, but why should we fund a two bit tart with posh frocks, cars, you name it.  It is my thinking that the murkles in the US are wanting to try and get taxpayer money, big time, to keep their mouths closed.  HM wants to be careful, it is the type of family that will spend the money, then do the same thing again to get another payout.  If pay murkle won $750,000 dollars on the lottery, surely he could have done something sensible with it.  If that was when murky was under 10, then it was worth a whole lot more the $750k today.  Why didn´t he save some, put it by for his old age, or invest it somehow, he may not be bright but there are people who can advise you on that sort of thing.  Lord alone knows what he did with all that cash, he must have wasted it big time.  And the clap trap about $16k a year for that drama school, fine, how many years was she there.  Say 6 max, so $160k, maybe slightly more.  And, where is the rest of it then. Too much wrong with that lot, devious and scamming just the same as the medds.  As I said, really interesting that  both dorks of Diana are not very intelligent, and end up with bringing trailer trash into the British rf.  The Diana Revenge from above, who knows.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2018, 10:56:34 am
I have another quote stuck in my mind: Is he nice? This stupid, out of touch with reality line was used in a Hallmark romance movie where a struggling actress accidentally lies that she's dating this hot mega star to avoid admitting that she only amounted to waitressing in a diner. The plot goes like this: the star uses her to hide his relationship with his publicist (they announce fake engagement) but end up going to a wedding with her and falling in love with her and marrying her. In the end the heroine gets the guy and gets the roles.

Now, the reality. Megsy whi claims that she didn't know anything about the rf must have known that after the wedding anything and everything ceiminal about he Medds was whitewashed. Maybe she thought: great - I'll get exposure, I'll get the Marvel superhero named adter me (a She princes or something), brf will take care of everything, if I ever don't like what I hear - I'll waive the race card and get my way and all I have to do is get dummy wrapped around my finger. Now, how do I do that....


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2018, 11:14:54 am
Sorry for the double post. Timed out on the cell phone.

Now, there reality is as follows: brf doesn't want to pay off the Markles and they talk. They talk and they can't be stopped from talking because unlike in UK - this is their constitutional right. The race card is getting weaker and weaker because more and more people open their eyes to her real character and they don't like what they see. Anyone, literally anyone, with any, even the slightest of morals and family values will see her for who she is and that means: the race card, so carefully collected, is getting weaker and weaker and soon people will start saying: I don't care even if you're Marcian, you are a rotten apple and I don't like you for it.

P.S. The Medds get to breathe until this drama is sorted (Harry wakes up to the 30mil for wedding and 1 mil for clothes mistake he did in less than a year and goes to daddy to clean up this mess). Then, then, it will be worse for them because they are next.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 16, 2018, 12:04:58 pm
I wonder what would have transpired if Thomas Markle had been a black man.  If I think of that scenario, I have my doubts that the BRF or the media would have treated it the same way.  I don't know that for sure, of course, but it is something to ponder.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 16, 2018, 02:25:32 pm
Prophetic words from Meghan? Unearthed blog post reveals how she vowed to stop wasting time on people who 'lie and manipulate' after her divorce and rift with her best friend
She's had her fair share of drama since joining the royal family including public outbursts from her father and former friends accusing her of freezing out people when they don't agree with her.
But it seems that Meghan Markle has practice at moving on from difficult relationships as a 2104 post from her now defunct lifestyle blog, The Tig, suggests.
The motivational statement by Portuguese author Jose Micard Teixeira was unearthed by the Instagram account harry_meghan_updates and speaks of losing 'patience' with a long list of character flaws including hypocrisy and betrayal.
'I no longer have patience for certain things, not because I’ve become arrogant, but simply because I reached a point in my life where I do not want to waste more time with what displeases me or hurts me,' the post read. '
I do not get along with those who do not know how to give a compliment or a word of encouragement. I no longer spend a single minute on those who lie or want to manipulate.'
The timing of the post was particularly significant as it came not long after Meghan's divorce from producer Trevor Engelson and her falling out with long-term friend Ninaki Priddy, who disapproved with the way she ended the marriage.
The words, perhaps, still hold a certain relevance for Meghan as drama surrounding her relationship with her family continues to swirl.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6066717/Meghan-blogged-toxic-relationships-2014.html
Not really a humanitarian when she just freezes people out for not agreeing with her. She’s not a social justice fighter  :bored: either otherwise she would’ve taken the high road and talked to her dad regardless of if she thinks he’d tell the press what they’ve spoken about. The bigger issue is that she brought embarrassment to the royal family by not dealing with her dad.
IMO, they’re working together to get Meghan sympathy but it’s backfiring and she’s in a hole because she has to deal with her dad not the palace as she’d hope. I think this fiasco was planned to get the palace to settle with money to shut the Markle’s up. Remember Andrew Morton’s book said that Thomas expected a financial settlement. Why and from whom? I’d say from the palace/Harry. Poor chap only has interest from his inheritance and his army money I believe, so he’s hardly rich.
She’s going to turn on Harry and the royal family for not treating her with importantance because it’s their fault that the Markle’s are talking to the press and embarrassing them. Meghan’s too important to bother with dealing with them because they’ll blabber to the press, therefore, the royal family has to intervene.  :cookie:
Comments:
Spengler, New Orleans, 10 minutes ago
Yes-- notice how everyone is to blame EXCEPT Meghan, who is pure perfection!! NOT!
FionaLeaf, Holland, United States, 8 minutes ago
I know people who post this type of junk on social media, in nearly every instance these words could be turned right back around on the one who posts them.
New743
FionaLeaf, Holland, United States, 18 minutes ago
Also, despite proclaiming otherwise, she does sound like a super arrogant B in that post.
Etternal, Cambridge, United States, 12 minutes ago
She's a manipulator, the level of tarnish she has brought to the RF is palpable.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2018, 05:33:02 pm
^ So how can a person of zero accountability (always blaming others for everything and never owning up to what they said or did) going to inspire people to give her their hard earned money for the expensive brands that she merches? With everything that she represents it'll be very difficult to not force people to curtsy...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 16, 2018, 05:35:00 pm
She sounds very immature. I always say you can tell a lot about a person by how many friends/family members they've managed to keep hold of. Meghan's only 'friends' are her Suits co-stars and Jessica Mulroney (hardly a longstanding friendship) and the only family member she cares about is her mum.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 16, 2018, 06:28:53 pm
Re Doria's alleged criminal record, in the U.S., it is possible for criminals to get a "fresh start" by paying a lawyer to expunge their criminal record. This costs money, but it is routinely done. While the case number indicates that there was a criminal charge brought against Doria, when one goes to the actual court, no record comes back. Yet the case (record) number exists! This indicates that the record was expunged-- erased from public view.  The "DR" may indicate "DRUGS."


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 16, 2018, 06:31:11 pm
^I don’t feel MeAgain really loves anyone - at least not after they have served her purpose.

I wonder what would have transpired if Thomas Markle had been a black man.  If I think of that scenario, I have my doubts that the BRF or the media would have treated it the same way.  I don't know that for sure, of course, but it is something to ponder.

I’ve thought the very same.  My deepest intuition tells me it would have been very different.   But...I could be wrong.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 16, 2018, 06:37:54 pm
^^DR means "disciplinary report" during confinement.  So, she was confined.  No doubt about it.   It's helpful for me to have an attorney son. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 16, 2018, 06:57:37 pm
So if she paid to have it expunged it must have been more than a driving offence?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 16, 2018, 07:14:26 pm
This comment pretty much sums her up.  :cookie:
NulIish, BothPartiesSuck, United States, 4 minutes ago
Ah¿so says the posterchild of manipulation. The revision history in the weeks leading to the public announcement that she and Harry were dating, on October 30 2016, is a testament to her master skills of manipulation. SNIP: 22:38, 9 October 2016 (Acting career: take out deal or no deal), 22:48, 9 October 2016 (added Humanitarian work), 18:26, 11 October 2016 (Added external link to Markle's website, "thetig.com"), 18:31, 11 October 2016 (Added honor by Cynopsis Media as one of top women in digital for 2016), 18:33, 11 October 2016, 30 October 2016¿ (Personal life: Added romance with Prince Harry)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6066717/Meghan-blogged-toxic-relationships-2014.html#comments

There's no rehabilitating her image as she's damanged it herself with her lies and deceit. Exposing her to the world on this massive scale makes sense now because she wouls've constanly live off of being Harry's ex. I expect this situation to be resolved with her going back to the States, if she's not already there now, and be embroiled with visa and tax issues. Her ruputation and image's ruined to the point that she's a blight to any charitable work or ambassadorship opportunities she could get on her current position and post Harry.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Little light on August 16, 2018, 07:39:53 pm
Sorry MODs if this is in the wrong place.

But Tom is meant to be broke. And one poster asked where his lottery win of $750k went to. He paid for Meghans fancy education. And helped her get an internship in Argentina with his brother. (Would he have funded Meg’s trip there?)

But what about the rest?

IF it is true Doria has a criminal record AND had to pay a lawyer to have her record expunged, where would that money come from? Tom? Perhaps.

It is logical but his money may well have been misinvested. Who knows?  :cookie:

I’ve no idea. But just thinking out loud.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 16, 2018, 07:54:02 pm
^You’re fine.  Speculation and thinking out loud is what a gossip site is for.  I’d have no problem believing any monies were inhaled by Sparkles whenever possible.  She was treated like his princess and spoiled rotten.

This whole mess has moved from ridiculous to outrage for me.  Somebody dropped the ball somewhere with this invasion.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 16, 2018, 08:05:06 pm
I've to believe this was a planned one. Remeber Camilla gushing that Meg's the star? Hy would she say that numerous times right after the engagement? I also remeber ot strange in an article saying that everything was cheorgraphed after Phillip's retirement. Harry's behavior around her isn't that of a loving and supportive husband, but someone tolerating her and going along with a plan. Right now, Meg's the face of the monarchy in that she's in the papers on a daily basis with her famiy's drama. This mess can't continue, so this hass to end somhow befre the royal family returns from their holidays. The press and the British public's demanding this fiasco end as well as other wanting her gone back to the States as she's been proven a liar and deceitful over and over.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2018, 08:26:08 pm
Per one of the CDAN blinds she wants to get an invitation for a superhero series. The problem with that is, just like the Bond girl hoax and the Emmy invitation hoax - you've got to be actually good at acting in order to get that invite.

I think the lottery was probably a lie to cover up for where the money came for the expensive schools and overseas vacations. I'm inclined to think that Tom and the first wife were working hard to provide for the 3 kids. Tom was a lightning director. Had an Emmy. He was not wealthy but he had some pretty decent income.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 17, 2018, 05:56:06 am
I wonder what would have transpired if Thomas Markle had been a black man.  If I think of that scenario, I have my doubts that the BRF or the media would have treated it the same way.  I don't know that for sure, of course, but it is something to ponder.

IMO, if Tom was black and Doria was white, the approach would have been different from the very beginning. They would have factored Tom into the overall plan because he would be the key to selling the "inclusive royals" schtick. Since Tom would have been included, there would be no reason to talk to the press and end up with the mess we are witnessing. Doria would still be included but she wouldn't be getting the saintly edit that we see now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 17, 2018, 06:01:35 am
In such scenario Doria's interview with Oprah would have aired by now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 17, 2018, 06:13:32 am
^,^^That, unfortunately, seems most likely to me, too.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 17, 2018, 07:52:15 am
Comment on the B.B. article in the DM

‘What happened to Samantha Markle? Oh I expect the Queen intervened as she always does when she thinks something might mock or harm her family. It’s about time that this over privileged outdated institution went. Using tax payers money to buy off people just isn’t on.’


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 17, 2018, 01:10:00 pm
^The're at the point of no return now.  Even if they try something with the Markles it will look staged, contrived and phony.   Their only hope is that the Markle clan will die down on their own and never speak another word.  (That's funny.)

The BRF almost seem to be shooting themselves in the foot on purpose.  A self-inflicted demise.  Is that possible?  Is it possible that HM wants this to end with her and doesn't care if it goes down in flames?  I find that hard to believe but I also find it surprising that no public overture or comment has come out to try and, well, at this point what can they do?

The American angle makes this impossible to control in the same way they have before.  Kind of refreshing, tho.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 17, 2018, 01:52:09 pm
'Harry could have done something': Diana's former bodyguard blames the PRINCE for not protecting Meghan's father from the press - and insists Thomas Markle shouldn't be seen as an 'ogre'
EXCLUSIVE: Ken Wharfe, 69, said prince understands press intrusion
Should have used that knowledge to help father-in-law early on
Said he could have 'insisted' on palace aides intervening to advise Mr Markle
Insisted that despite making mistakes, Meghan's dad deserves sympathy
Nobody to blame but Harry for negative media coverage
In 2012, while on leave from duty, Harry was snapped playing naked billiards in a Las Vegas hotel room.
He conceded that Harry's protection officers should have intervened and advised him better, but said the buck ultimately stops with the prince. 
'He invited people to his room in LA with their mobile phones. These things gave him the negative publicity. I don't think he can blame anyone for that other than himself,' he said.
'That generated a lot of publicity and I'm sure he was very upset by it, but that was his fault.'   
'He's not an unintelligent guy. He's been through the mill himself, he knows what press intrusion is like. He has a drawbridge and a portcullis to hide behind when they pursue him. Thomas Markle doesn't.
'Nobody's looking after him. They're going to bend his arm, there'll be the offers money, there'll be the pursuing paparazzi, the invasion and the negative reporting that we've seen.
'Harry could have done something about that. He may have advised palace officials, maybe he did, but he could have insisted on that. He could well have done, but for some reason it hasn't happened
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6070709/Dianas-former-bodyguard-blames-Prince-Harry-Thomas-Markle-saga.html
Makes you wonder if he’s supposedly so in love with Meghan that he didn’t meet Thomas and that no protection/advice on how to deal with the press was given prior to the engagement. Nothing adds up only that this is going to get good if it’s true that trevor’s going to talk. He could easily pass on the bad stuff via Samantha or Thomas if he doesn’t want to do it directly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 17, 2018, 02:24:48 pm
^ That's Megan's PR trying to blame it on Harry. See, it's not the palace's fault that she's sucks as a daugher. It is not Harry's job to restrain and control the movements of an in-law. It is certainly not HM's job to police over Megan's lack of heart for her family. She's a grown up, not a child... according to her ID.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 17, 2018, 03:34:34 pm
I don't think it's Meghan I think it's strictly Wharfe trying to keep himself relevant (ala Burrell) with "revelations." He may be gearing up for another book. Lots of "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" as the saying goes with these writers who want to "figure it out" and "solve the problem." Imagine they may be wanting the scoop of a lifetime "settling" the dispute between Meghan and Family. Then they can go on all those talk shows.

It's also a way of Wharfe getting even. Maybe Harry as a child used to tease Ken. Just speculating.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 17, 2018, 04:40:09 pm
^ Interesting intake. One thing is for sure - waaaayy too many people want to cash in on the royals and HM and PC will be smart to start trimming the gold diggers. The worst that could happen is people thinking that both PC's sons are morrrrons and ... people already do think that, more and more of them. The question now is - will they save what's left of centuries old institution or just stay and watch how everything falls down in front of HM's eyes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 17, 2018, 05:46:45 pm
^that’s what needs to be done. The Midds really brought to light that hangers on take advantage of their association to the royal family and expect to have special protection as they fleece off the royals.
The public has Meghan’s number regarding her using the race card via her mum.
Mrs Know-All, Somewhere, United States, 6 minutes ago
Can someone tell me the difference between her father running to the press and Meghan running to the press prior to the marriage??
Middle Kingdom, The Old Vic, United Kingdom, 8 minutes ago
Exactly. The Vanity Fair spread would not have been done if it had been a British girl.
Mrs Know-All, Somewhere, United States, 15 minutes ago
I honestly think Harry and Meghan are as toxic as each other. Co-dependency comes to mind.
Skerryvore, Bismarck, Canada, 5 minutes ago
Saw some pretty big pupils at some events.
Bvhgyt, Rio, United Kingdom, 1 hour ago
Pop was never going to get a look in. Old, white, male... Not on messsge. MeMe, a Hillary supporter, knows mom fits the PC narrative. And Harry¿s hustler is all about her own public image, cash & fame.  :thumbsup:
Andy Taylor, London, United Kingdom, 16 minutes ago
Since marrying Harry, Meghan looks more like Wallace Simpson every day, spindly, and over dyed hair
jacijo, cardiff, United Kingdom, 21 minutes ago
Very plain woman, nothing like the pics from her time in Suits. Amazing what good makeup and lighting can do.
Perdax, London, United Kingdom, 1 hour ago
Doria went to the Invictus games in September last year. Q). Was Mr. Markle invited? If yes, then why didn't he attend? I find incomprehensible that Harry would not want to use that last opportunity, before the engagement, to meet Meghan's dad. Harry had already asked dad on the phone for her hand in marriage and he said yes. All that was needed was an air ticket and book a hotel room for a few days. Harry going to Mexico after the games would have raised security costs due to certain local 'issues'.  :cookie:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6070709/Dianas-former-bodyguard-blames-Prince-Harry-Thomas-Markle-saga.html#comments-6070709


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 17, 2018, 06:22:26 pm
From another forum

Thomas Markle made good money and he won the lottery, which gave him a lot of cash. He spread the cash around, and always did things for all three children. According to Morton, Thomas Jr. was helped to buy into a florist shop where he'd been previously working; Samantha was helped financially; and Meghan, well, she was treated like a young queen in training-- given the best schools, foreign trips, and likely gifted a Jeep. I think all three kids received cars.

Morton indicates that the first wife went to live with Thomas's brother in Florida for a period. He is a priest in some offshoot of the Roman Catholic church, and he had a nice home. The first wife then had a baby with her boyfriend, before marrying either him or someone else, Morton left it rather vague.

You can tell that Meghan hooked up with Trevor while she was still in college. She is said to have met him in a bar in LA-- which is such a glamorous way to meet someone! LOL!

They lived together almost seven years before marrying. So even though Morton tries to minimize Meghan's first marriage, in fact she was in a LONG relationship. No kids. Then, a two year marriage. During that time, Meghan got her Suits role, and Trevor, then a producer, had a few film bombs. One was called "Amber Alert."  If you go into YouTube, you can see the trailer.  It was a cheaply-made film but had some good acting in it.  But Trevor is a man who perseveres.  Meghan then did what Meghan does best-- she jettisoned her husband.

She then moved on to the chef.

then, on to Harry.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 17, 2018, 06:30:22 pm
I'm fed up with how Wharfe and other ex-staff think they have some right to mouth off about Harry's business. Wharfe quit working for Diana and really, who is Wharfe to say anything to anyone?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 17, 2018, 06:32:16 pm
I guess people just needed another opinion from someone who wasn't 'source', 'close friend', or a Markle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 17, 2018, 06:51:44 pm
^true, as he was an insider and knows how things are usually done regarding dealing with potential in-laws.
Now’s the time to drop any bad stuff that Meghan’s done, the stuff that she paid and begged Trevor not to divulge. The fact that the palace can’t control the situation of the Markle’s talking to the press is perfect for others to jump on the bandwagon and unleash on Meghan as she has plenty of people she’s discarded after she’s used them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 17, 2018, 06:54:41 pm
^^ I think we get the picture all right.
^^^ In a different situation, for a woman of integrity, I would have agreed but to me all this blame shifting between Thomas, Samantha, Megan and now trying to pin it to Harry - that seems not like a family feud to me but a hype of the upkeep hush price for the Markles and that includes Megan too.

Right now I think that Harry and brf should stay out of it and leave the Markles eat each other if they want to. They are all the same and defending one is unfair to the others because they all use exactly the same tactics.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 17, 2018, 07:06:16 pm
^exactly as in reality it has nothing to do with Harry anyway because it’s down to Meghan to sort out her lot.
The Markle’s and Meghan are making are definitely doing this to get hush money as it’s embarrassing to the royals to have this continue to go on in the press. IMO though, the palace is letting this play out because Meghan’s lies keeps coming out with each article so we’re bound to get to why that statement was issued and what happened at the Toronto IG where Harry was surrounded by Meghan and her crew that included her mother.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 17, 2018, 10:37:43 pm
This is all so ridiculous to me that anyone is even paying attention to the trashy Markles let alone the BRF. paying attention.  All this shows is that Harry chose an inappropriate wife for the position, and he was allowed to do it. And of course this is playing out from the trashy relatives to the topless photos to the abandoned people in her life. A long time ago, George IV chose a trashy wife as well for his times. It happens. But why give any weight to the Markles?  I am sure Trevor has an ongoing deal with Meghan to keep quiet and funny how Doria didn't move to Canada to be close to her daughter, but now feels the need or the greed. England is very cold compared to Los Angeles and winters will not be fun for her at all. The whole lot is on the bandwagon now. No dignity whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 17, 2018, 11:18:04 pm
People pay attention to two things:  the train wrecks and/or the magnificent.  For example, Diana was both so she went off the charts, Super Star. 

Harry and Sparkles + The Markles are in no way magnificent.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 18, 2018, 01:12:34 am
Thomas Markle is Definitely Not Starting His Own Clothing Line
Thomas Markle No Ace Up His Sleeve ... Clothing Line News is Phony

Thomas Markle certainly has his own style, but the idea of him starting his own clothing line is "ridiculous" ... so say sources close to Meghan's dad.

Rumors of Tom M. trying to become the next Tom Ford began Wednesday when the Duchess of Sussex's half-sister, Samantha Markle, tweeted it out ... saying she was excited about her dad's new clothing line for men.
http://www.tmz.com/2018/08/16/thomas-markle-not-starting-own-clothing-line/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 18, 2018, 02:41:55 am
Thomas Markle likens the royals to a 'secretive Scientology cult' as he attacks 'wall of silence' from family since daughter Meghan wed Prince Harry
Meghan Marlke's father has said the Royal Family are 'like Scientologists' because of their secrecy, in an extraordinary outburst.
The ex lighting director told the Sun that the Royal's have to become more modern and open to scrutiny.
Speaking from his home in  Rosarito, Mexico, he said 'They are either like Scientologists or the Stepford family.
'If they hear anybody say anything they just lock the doors. They need to speak up!
'They are cult-like — like Scientology — because they are secretive.
'They close the door, pull the shades down and put their fingers in their ears so they don't have to hear.'
Markle's public discourse with Kensington Palace continues after his sleuth of well-publicised bust ups with the Royals and his daughter, the Duchess of Sussex Meghan Markle.
Markle has been met with a 'wall of silence' from the palace since his daughter's wedding to Prince Harry in May.    
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6072627/Thomas-Markle-likens-royals-secretive-Scientology-cult-attacks-wall-silence.html
What does he expect from KP? Even Meghan had the nerve to criticize KP’s press office at their hands off approach. There seems to be desperation in the air from all the Markles now. Thomas keeps talking to the press to attack the royal family when it’s his nasty daughter that he has issues with. Samantha lied about the clothing line. Meghan’s pr is pushing beauty and signs to look for when she becomes pregnant.  :bored:  Harry’s being criticized for not protecting the Markle’s which is nuts considering Thomas knows how to work the press as he’s a Hollywood veteran who worked on a soap opera and such as well as Samantha and definitely Meghan. This is all about the money that they think the royal family will give them to make them go away. They must’ve done this scam before but on a smaller scale.
The obvious answer is to boot Meghan out as she’s the head the the Markle’s snake. As long as she’s there, this will continue until the queen’s criticized for allowing shut trash in the door; approving and attending that tacky wedding/blessing service.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 18, 2018, 06:04:28 am
^Thomas is getting more and more desperate and ridiculous with each interview. :laugh:

I guess he doesn't want to ever meet the royals since he is now calling them a cult, so why would Meg want to introduce him to any of them  ???

The fact that he is struggling financially and not able to fist-bump the Queen whenever he wants to is killing his privileged ego, shame. Didn't he say that if the Queen can meet with Trump then she can meet with him? Delusional. It's very entertaining to watch him lose his mind because he can't hob-nob with the royals or get money from Meghan.

I say that Meg shouldn't reach out until he stops his press tour. We all know by now that Meg is a cold piece who drops people and so I wouldn't come down on her if she never reaches out to her dad because her dad won't stop talking.

As Olivia Pope would ask Thomas, what is your endgame?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 18, 2018, 07:36:50 am
She's inappropriate alright but is she incompatible with PH. Or, better yet, is He of the same trashy caliber as her and her family.

Doria has zero business moving in to London. IF she didn't move to Canada, she has no business moving in to UK.

The end game for Thomas seems obvious: either get brf to open their wallets in monthly installments (as a beginning demand, then there's bestie photos with the queen, a title, a "humble" abode on Beverly Hills for his retirement) or, or - trash brf and blame Them for His daughter's lack of heart and love for anyone but herself (something I would presume is the result of His upbringing of said daughter but maybe Doria with her vast experience in social work would know all about it).


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 18, 2018, 12:19:45 pm
This has all the methodology of controlled media release, to me.  All of these articles come from one interview and the media drip, drip, drip it out to appear as if he's talking to the press every day.  Not sure who's commandeering that. 

And I don't see that he's all that wrong.  The BRF play with people in solid smoke and mirrors fashion as well as rewarding those who side with their methods and shun anyone who questions them.  On that, he is absolutely right. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 19, 2018, 01:56:40 am
Doria and I walked Meghan down the beach together’: Furious Thomas Markle hits back at ‘outright lies’ that he is a ‘drug addict or alcoholic who did not attend his daughter's first wedding
 Thomas Markle has hit back at a stream of ‘slurs’ levelled against him since revealing details of his rift with daughter Meghan and son-in-law Prince Harry.

The 74-year-old retired Hollywood lighting director had intended his exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday last weekend to be his last – but now says he feels compelled to correct ‘outright lies’ in other media.

In particular, he said he has been wounded by claims that he is a prescription pill addict, did not attend his daughter’s first wedding, and is ‘bitter’ that Meghan did not repay thousands of dollars he says he spent on her private education.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6074541/Thomas-Markle-denies-hes-prescription-pill-addict-missed-Meghans-wedding.html

Meghan's uncle, 78, says he was deeply hurt by being excluded from her wedding and would have walked her down the aisle despite battle with Parkinson's disease
Another one of Meghan Markle's family members is voicing their disappointment at not being invited to the royal wedding - this time her father's older brother Michael.

The former US diplomat claimed that despite his health woes, he would have made the journey across the pond from his home in Palm Bay, Florida, to walk his niece down the aisle.

Michael Markle shared that his battle with Parkison's disease would not have prevented him from going to Windsor Castle in May, the Sunday Mirror reports.

Meghan's uncle claimed that he supported his niece and 'done more for her' over the years than anyone else.

The 78-year-old admitted that his disease was 'getting me now' but when asked if able to go to the wedding, he added:  'Sure, I could have, if it was coordinated. Yes, I would have done it.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6074687/Meghans-uncle-78-says-deeply-hurt-excluded-wedding.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 19, 2018, 02:27:47 am
I was wondering when we would hear from this particular uncle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 19, 2018, 03:26:47 am
The Absurdity of her dissing her  family at that wedding is too much. I have no respect for Harry anymore whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 19, 2018, 04:30:58 am
^Of all the reasons there are to dislike her and question her motives, this is the one I've never understood how people can excuse it. There is no reasoning this one away. It's one thing to not invite Sam and Tom, Jr. But everyone else?? Doria was literally the ONLY family member at the wedding. If ever there was a red flag - and there were MANY - this one came with neon lights and sound effects.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 19, 2018, 04:38:19 am
Amazing how EVERYONE on both sides of her family (excluding her mother I guess) are these horrible cave-dwellers and Murky is the only sane, decent one?  Her fangirls (aka the Turklettes) seem to think so!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 19, 2018, 01:30:16 pm
Exasperated Harry and Meghan put up a wall of silence over her father's outbursts: Royal couple fear 'setting the record straight' will provoke Thomas Markle... but The Queen is 'rolling her eyes'
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are 'not going to engage' with the Duchess of Sussex's father despite his outbursts claiming he has been 'cut off' by the couple.
The newlyweds, who are said to be waiting for the 74 year old to approach them in a 'respectful manner', will not try to 'set the record straight', reports the Sunday Times.
The duchess is believed to be reluctant to talk to her father in case he leaks anything to the press. Earlier this month he gave his 'final interview' with the Mail On Sunday - before talking to the Sun a day later.
A source told the Sunday Times: 'Meghan doesn't think it's a fair game between her father and the media so she's not going to engage in it or instruct anyone on her behalf to set the record straight.
'There have always been fears over his vulnerability. Now he's got himself into a cycle of talking publicly. It's very sad.'
Prince Charles is said to be sympathetic towards Meghan's difficult situation, but a source has claimed the Queen will be 'rolling her eyes' over the state of affairs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6075539/Prince-Harry-Meghan-not-going-engage-war-words-father.html
Please. The royal family’s on holiday and isn’t concerning themselves with Meghan’s trash. Funny how Harry, Charles and the queen’s being added to this when before, it was Meghan waiting for her dad to contact her.
Samantha Markle is said to be in talks with US TV channel Bravo for new show
Bosses of the show are said to be keen to get Thomas Markle, 74, on the show
Bosses want 'something that is similar to Keeping Up With The Kardashians'
Keeping up with the Markles: Meghan's half-sister Samantha ‘has been offered a “bumper pay deal” to form her own family reality show’ just like the Kardashians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6074439/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-offered-reality-TV-deal.html
No go without Meghan in it, IMO. The fact is the the Meghan and Markle’s are seen on the same line as the Kardashian’s- trash!  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 19, 2018, 01:53:36 pm
Tommy and Sammy make the Kardashs look "classy" IMO. At least the Kardashs have interesting in-laws.

The Queen must have headaches from the eye rolling after all those years of being surrounded by dysfunction.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 19, 2018, 02:40:57 pm
^^I agr.  HM won't give two shakes about this because she's made all the right moves and for now it's all on MM and Harry.  Once it starts seeping into the main branch, different story.  But, for now, I'd bet she's just sitting back and watching what was the inevitable.  She's not stupid.  She saw this coming.  Anybody with a working brain cell did so she must have.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 19, 2018, 02:58:02 pm
^She's definitely letting them crash and burn. They have no one to blame but themselves. Charles & William won't say anything because they're both getting a boost from this trainwreck.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 19, 2018, 03:22:06 pm
^All true.  At last I think so. 

I have no doubt that HM was troubled by many things but the unstable relationship between all the Markles was way up there. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: michelle0187 on August 19, 2018, 05:06:02 pm
^^I agr.  HM won't give two shakes about this because she's made all the right moves and for now it's all on MM and Harry.  Once it starts seeping into the main branch, different story.  But, for now, I'd bet she's just sitting back and watching what was the inevitable.  She's not stupid.  She saw this coming.  Anybody with a working brain cell did so she must have.

Had hm stepped in, this would've been dealt with in a mature fashion. Mm probably hoped so but hm got better things to do and thought a grown *butt* woman should handle this by herself.





Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 19, 2018, 05:11:41 pm
It's a great pity ER let trash like the mids and murky into the Rf in the first place. If she had ore bottle none of this would be happenng. She's probably hoping Eugenie's wedding will take the focus of murky (as if !!) and ma is happy because she thinks murky's problems are taking the focus of her grandchildren and the topic that can only be discussed in the MO section


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 19, 2018, 05:54:22 pm
HM has to be listened to first!  Harry ignored every single warning sign, advice and used zero common sense.  I think people who love him spoke up and showed concerns especially moving so fast, not knowing her family but Harry was going to have his own way. 

He’s a grown a$$ man and the whole mess is on him.  HM and Co wisely slapped on smiles, gave uber support and let the Markle chips fall.

There was no other choice.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 19, 2018, 06:10:41 pm
And that's the best course of action - let him fall and break his arms and legs if he can't listen to reason. Now it's time to fall. H & M may think it's great idea to keep silent but the Markles are capable of putting on a show of their own. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 19, 2018, 06:26:29 pm
It’s hard to believe that Harry brought this low level trashy woman with her greedy family to the royals on purpose though. Al through out this bizarre courtship and odd wedding, he’s not treated her like a loving boyfriend/husband would except the odd hand holding, there seems to be no connection to her. If anything, she’s still a nasty booty call to be kept in the shadows. All this stuff about the Markle’s going for cash and talking to the press could’ve been dealt with in a rational fashion long before the wedding. The wedding was a pr event that allows everyone who attended to talk about it as it’ll help their name recognition worldwide; to use Meghan as she used others. Unless Meghan’s gone, booted Barack to America and the how and why this situation with Meghan got to marriage/blessing, then this will be the course from now on; the Markle’s fromt and center and Meghan being classless and clueless as she tries to do engagements whilst wearing ill fitting expensive clothes and attire and makes money scamming Charles. It’s too much to think about and makes no sense that Harry’s so dumb that he definitely brought this trick chick to the royal family on purpose.
I don’t get all levels of security and someone like Meghan can easily get in and cause the situation like this as well as damage the image of the monarchy as they look inept as this is going on. Time to stop wasting tax payers money on security for the royals if they don’t listen to their wise council. I’m pretty sure that Harry and the royals saw the dossier on Meghan and knows what she’s about, but her we are. Until KP officially puts out a statement saying that this farce of a marriage’s done, she’ll be around to continue the crazy tacky affair.
Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha 'is in talks' to replace porn star Stormy Daniels in the Celebrity Big Brother after she pulled out at the last minute
Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha to join Celebrity Big Brother, source says
Channel 5 producers need to find a replacement following Stormy Daniels' exit
Samantha hinted she had been approached and has no qualms about 'cashing in'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6075431/Meghan-Markles-half-sister-Samantha-talks-replace-porn-star-Stormy-Daniels-CBB.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 19, 2018, 06:42:37 pm
I wonder, though, how the Markles will handle the press if a divorce is ordered by TPTB.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 19, 2018, 07:00:34 pm
^^The one time I was waiting for Big Brother to start and they pull out Stormy for ... :Kate:
Sam better bring it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: michelle0187 on August 19, 2018, 07:20:10 pm
mm has been drowning in pity over her shameless family. But to give them their own show or appear on bb will embarrass her more because they can mention stuff about her that'd crush her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 19, 2018, 07:32:59 pm
Well, I still remember when back in 2011 and 2012 a lot of people in this forum said that was impossible to get someone worst than Kate or the Middletons!! Well despite everything they never put the royal family in such bad press...

I have to say that the Markles are quite trashy, however, Meghan's past relations all say the same thing about her... now her uncle that was able to put her working in Argentina... so she got a place there (and a privilege one because is hard to be able to go for an embassy) because she used her uncle and then she just drops everything... the only person that is protected is Doria... but Doria does not speak to anyone in her family? Isn't this weird... and by the way, Doria just did not open her mouth to show that she was different from then but she was expected to give an interview to Oprah!

Well from that awful wedding to this big mess... I think that if they divorce it will be a thousand time worst than Charles and Diana!!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 19, 2018, 07:44:35 pm
^yep, ain’t it great. It’ll serve her right for cutting people off after she’s used them.  :cookie: That’d be cool if Harry has done the same as he’s MIA hopefully in Africa.
See what I’m saying about the ‘royal wedding’ attendees using it for their own gain. Idris declined to say how he and Harry were friends which is odd if he brought it up in the interview. His dj side job’s being highlighted as it’s said that he was the dj for the reception. I’m wondering if there was even a reception because lies have been told about the event. Idris gets to use it for his pr as a calling card to line up future lucrative djing jobs as well as keep his name in the press.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6075485/Idris-Elba-jokes-friend-Prince-Harry-neighbourhood-lad.html

The Markle’s are really going for broke with this opportunity to leach if of Meghan and it serves her right. There’s nothing that really can be done to stop them being opportunist as they’re American and has no allegiance to the British monarchy. It’s a situation of grabbing the iron when it’s hot. I expect this all to come crashing down and Meghan the one with no money and a pariah who’ll owe money to Charles and the IRS as well as face visa fraud as that whole engagement interview was a lie.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 19, 2018, 07:50:09 pm
^Meghan is the only one to blame.... she was advised to invite people... she didn't maybe because she thought that press will not listen to them or she was far more important than then... so everything was controlled... (in the last wish she thought that BRF could control and make the press don't give any attention to them...)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 19, 2018, 08:03:12 pm
^^^I agree though I think the Firm learned a thing or two from the War of the Wales. I doubt she'll have the chance to drag them the way Diana did. She more than likely had to sign NDAs on her way in and will have to sign more on her way out. She'll try to drag them via "sources close to" as we are seeing now but we'll never get anything as in-depth as the Panorama interview.

^Yup. That guest list is all on Meghan. She invited who she did and left others out because she thought those people weren't good enough for the new life she was creating for herself. She invited the people who fit the narrative she's trying to adopt. And yes, she thought simply marrying in would insulate her from the fall out of her choices. She didn't bank on the Firm not buying what she was selling, instead letting her blow in the wind that is bad press.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 19, 2018, 10:07:20 pm
I think that in a possible divorce she will try to make it like the battle of the Waleses but she ain't gonna win. Diana's leverage was that she had good work ethic, two heirs to the throne and she was loved by the public for her big heart, not just the daring outfits. Meghan is just blowing off money like there's no tomorrow, has a family that, as trashy as they are, show her true colors with such ease that even the blind and the deaf can see through MM's charades.

As for Sam having her own show - I'd say, let's see how she does in Brig Brother first.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 20, 2018, 03:27:41 am
^I think that the 'wedding' was only a blessing ceromony and that no official ceremony that includes signing the register was done. The queen didn't attend Charles and Camilla's official wedding, just the blessing in the church at Windsor.
Meghan Markle will be just 150 miles from father Thomas during upcoming California trip to see her mother - but it remains unknown if they'll reunite following three months of silence
Meghan Markle will soon be California-bound but it remains to be seen if her personal getaway from Kensington Palace will include a reunion with her father.
The Duchess of Sussex is flying to Los Angeles to see her mother Doria Ragland, putting her just 150 miles away from Thomas Markle in Rosarito, Mexico.
Father and daughter have not spoken to each other for three months after it was revealed he staged paparazzi photos in the lead-up to the royal wedding in May.
But royal sources said it is not yet known if Meghan, 37, will use this trip as a chance to reunite and attempt to repair their frayed relationship.
One source said that the trip is exactly what Meghan needs after Thomas' continuous barrage of embarrassing interviews to the press.
'The past few weeks will no doubt have been incredibly stressful for Meghan and no one wants this saga to continue for her,' they told The Mirror.
'Hopefully she can find some way of seeking resolution with her father, but going back to her roots for a few days is exactly what she needs right now.'
'Time will tell what the process for any type of relationship may be, but as long as they keep hurting her, it becomes more and more unlikely they will be able to have any type of relationship.'
The news comes just a day after it was revealed that Meghan and Prince Harry will not engage with Thomas despite his outbursts.   
A source told the Sunday Times: 'Meghan doesn't think it's a fair game between her father and the media so she's not going to engage in it or instruct anyone on her behalf to set the record straight.'
'There have always been fears over his vulnerability. Now he's got himself into a cycle of talking publicly. It's very sad.'
The Los Angeles trip will be the first time Meghan has seen her mother since her May wedding, and she may even make a trip to Canada as well.
It has been reported that Meghan could pay a visit to friends in Toronto, including her former Suits co-stars and best friend Jessica Mulroney.
Mulroney, as well as Ragland, have been constant sources of support for the Duchess as she continues to battle her father's embarrassing public outburst.
Prince Harry is not expected to accompany Meghan to California but the couple are reportedly planning a trip back to her native state during their American tour in 2019.  :bored:  no real value and would be a waste of money.
The couple are currently gearing up for an international tour of Australia, Fiji, Tonga, and New Zealand in October.  :bored: this should be cancelled/postponed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6077277/Meghan-Markle-just-150-miles-father-Thomas-California-trip.html
So according to this article, it's say that she's expected to go to LA and Toronto, so they don't know where she is.




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 20, 2018, 05:19:23 am
^See, that's something that has always stood out like a sore thumb to me. The divorce issue was always given as the reason why the Queen didn't attend Chuck and Cam's deal because of her position as the head of the church yet she was front and center for H&M. Considering the nature of M's last marriage not being a CoE marriage, you would think to be present at theirs would be even more of an issue than the wedding of her first born child.

Back on topic. If M does meet up with daddy dearest, I would be highly surprised if there weren't pictures of the reunion. If there aren't, the meeting didn't happen. Honestly, I think she's still in the UK.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 20, 2018, 03:10:37 pm
^ Another interesting point is that on the wedding there were no family members yet Diana's divorce lawyer was in the church. I mean, was he working? Supposedly Andrew didn't want to go but it was thanks to granny who geared up the whole family that we saw a united front from brf on the wedding. Of course ,they all showed exactly how excited they are to be there. The groom including.

IMO MEghan should meet with all of her family members - left and right, black and white, close and distant ... and open up the apology gift$$$$$ checkbook. She didn't do right not only by her own father but by a whole bunch of people.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 21, 2018, 08:15:35 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle's brother pleads with her to heal the rift with their father 'before it's too late' saying: 'Why can't we be treated like the Middletons?'
Meghan Markle's brother has hit out at the royal family and its aides over the way his family has been treated - and said he hopes she can make peace with her father 'before its too late'.
He also asked why the Markle clan can't be looked after like the Middleton family, saying that Kate Middleton's uncle Gary Goldsmith had been welcomed into the fold despite four marriages and a conviction for domestic assault.
Thomas Markle Jr. spoke to DailyMail.com amid reports that his sister is expected to arrive in California to see her mother Doria.
She is not expected to contact her father or other family members during the trip, which comes after a series of explosive comments by Thomas Markle Sr., who suggested he would be better off dead and compared the royal family to Scientologists.
His son Thomas Jr. questioned why his family has been frozen out while the Duchess of Cambridge's relations - including Goldsmith - have been brought into the royal fold.
He also revealed that he has been left heartbroken by the breakdown in his father's relationship with Meghan and says he would like the Duchess of Sussex to 'make amends' before it's too late.
Thomas Jr. told DailyMail.com: 'They have [brought outsiders in] before in the past like with the Middletons. I don't see why our family is any different.
'Kensington Palace could have got involved a long time ago – as soon as they announced their engagement.
'They've dealt with this kind of stuff for a long time and why they did it this way, that's the big question? Why? They could have looked after my dad and he would have been happy.'
He highlighted Kate Middleton's uncle , whose colorful conduct before their wedding - he was caught chopping lines of cocaine in a newspaper sting at his Mediterranean home, La Maison de Bang Bang -  did not stop him from being invited to Westminister Abbey.  
Thomas Jr. said: 'I think Uncle Gary and I would get along just fine. It would have been nice to at least get an invite to the wedding like he was.
'I don't need to be brought into all the events or whatever but it would have been nice to be brought into that.'
Meghan, Thomas Jr. told DailyMail.com, could have handled her family tribulations 'differently from the start' and avoided the rift with her father that has seen him speak out repeatedly and even tell one newspaper that 'they would be better off if I died'.
'I think Meghan should have handled this differently,' he said. 'I think Meghan should have handled this from the beginning and I think it got ignored and swept under the carpet for so long, it's a shame where it's ended up, especially between her and my father.
'She's capable of doing anything, she's just got to want to do it. If she wants to make amends, by all means, she can do that. But she's got to want to do it.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6079731/Meghan-Markles-brother-Heal-rift-father-late.html
Good question. The Midds are more tacky and trashy than this American lot who knows nothing about the royal family, yet has been taken in by the royal family. Love the reminder of how classless Gary. I’m sure now coma Midd, Carol’s fuming.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 21, 2018, 08:26:09 pm
The jokes write themselves, they really do!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 21, 2018, 08:43:50 pm
'Since Hollywood and being on that show - being a celebrity has changed her. Maybe she feels she is above everybody, maybe even more now.
'But if she wasn't with Prince Harry right now – even if she was still on Suits right now - she would have stopped what she was doing to go and visit him and make sure he's ok.'
He added: 'I think a lot of this probably has to do with Meghan. Who knows what she told them?  :cookie:
'It's very obvious that she does have a family. That's probably another issue for my father. I'm sure that upsets him.'
Nevertheless, Thomas Jr. would still like to see his father and sister reconcile – despite his repeated media outbursts – and says he would also like to meet the Middletons eventually.
'That would be kind of interesting,' he told DailyMail.com. 'But for now, I think just to be recognized as her family would be nice.'     
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6079731/Meghan-Markles-brother-Heal-rift-father-late.html         
The comments are dumb defending the Midds claiming that they keep their mouths shut. They’re classes and tacky by profiting off of their association tobthe royal family, social climbers and lazy as seen in Waity’s case. They’re pretty much embarrassing and useless. The Markle’s aren’t important because they’re not in line to the throne as Waity is as well as her family being an influence to her. The Midds should be the ones to be booted out as again, the Markle’s have no real threat to anything only making Harry look dumb for marrying one of them.
Maybe the answer to Thomas question is that the marriage isn’t legal. I’d hope so for the royals sake because this drama won’t end. It’ll be one tacky family against the other.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 21, 2018, 08:56:17 pm
If their marriage isn't legal, that will cause more hostility and anger; it will mean that all that money and BS hype was wasted and a lot of people will be humiliated after putting through all that hype and trouble. All the movies, documentaries, all the columns and other doltish antics. I am certain that neither press or public will take kindly to being revealed to having another wedding, more expense. It would be funny to Harry, but that is because he isn't paying for all of it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 21, 2018, 09:33:04 pm
^I think the public would welcome that. The press would make money by reporting why and what happened to get to that point. Right now, she has no one to come to her defense as she’s shown how fake and ingenious she is as well as cold by her treatment of her dad. She’s a trashy, nasty woman who uses and discards people.
Remember though that the press was called to a meeting at the palace prior to the wedding. I’ve seen coverage prior to the wedding where the reporter was quite snarky towards Meghan and the whole thing. There were complaints also from some of the press that they couldn’t get close to the venue like they did at prior events. The whole thing seemed more a movie production complete with extras outside the church who were gifted with goodie bags. The cost of the event was exagerated as there’s a major fuss over Eugenie’s wedding cost of security for £2 million; same venue, same carriage ride route as theirs. Since the event, the celebrities in attendance have used it for their pr as seen by Tom Hardy, Idris Elba, the Beckham’s, Oprah, etc. It was a celebrity event that was perfect for social media and nothing to do with an actual royal wedding. Nothing good will and has come of it with Meghan ‘married in’ and with this never ending family drama going on. The Midds and the Markle’s; such trash associated with the royal family that it’s a joke to hear and read about the royal family’s security measures when all it takes is for these dumb princes to hook up with these low life women and here we are.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 21, 2018, 10:54:43 pm

Good question. The Midds are more tacky and trashy than this American lot who knows nothing about the royal family, yet has been taken in by the royal family. Love the reminder of how classless Gary. I’m sure now coma Midd, Carol’s fuming.
I don't agree with this... the Middletons never washed their laundry in public, so yes this Americans can be from far tackier than the Middletons... Gary gave interviews but never to this extent... and they never said anything so offensive like the Markles, and at least in public, they behave!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 12:26:44 am
The Middletons were more subtle but not in a good way. Like Carole counseling her daughter to go and show Will what he was missing. With the embarrassing photo ops of her seeing other men at the clubs. There is a different sort of dysfunction going on with the Midds. Still social climbers.

Meg's Dad and step siblings seem to be asking what's in it for them. And rather coarsely and unsubtly waging their own campaign. IT would be interesting if Uncle Gary meets Meg's dad or half sister. When he was not under some sort of control, Gary made very indiscreet comments about Kate and William.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 22, 2018, 05:22:27 am
^exactly.
The Markle’s saga’s the same with each article. It’s not worth the time really to keep posting their nonsense because they’re a joke along with Meghan. Meghan’s a low tier actress trying to play duchess and Harry’s reduced to the dim prince celebrity. The nonsense will go on as long as Meghan’s attached to the royal family. The only interesting thing will be Meghan leaving and this lot goes back to living their lives in obscurity.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 22, 2018, 07:48:34 am
True but they are a joke that Megan didn't want to invite to her wedding and for that they have all the right to talk back at her. The one who throws the first stone is to blame for the the fight. In this case it's Megan. This is all on her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 22, 2018, 08:29:41 am
The Middletons were more subtle but not in a good way. Like Carole counseling her daughter to go and show Will what he was missing. With the embarrassing photo ops of her seeing other men at the clubs. There is a different sort of dysfunction going on with the Midds. Still social climbers.
Kate wanted William and she lost at the time... Carole, told Kate that she should live life... She was supposed to be at home crying because he dumped her? This could be seen in 2 ways, she was trying to make her daughter up because nothing is more painful for a parent than to see his children suffering... Carole was just practical, told her daughter to have fun, and that was the best she could do... Well. if she was able to get him back, it was only because he wanted...
And I am sorry don't see anything wrong with that... And I can say by experience that split up with someone and be at home all the time, it will take you to sadness and even depression... and it will not help to turn the page... so being outside with friends having fun was the best that she could do...

Meg's Dad and step siblings seem to be asking what's in it for them. And rather coarsely and unsubtly waging their own campaign. IT would be interesting if Uncle Gary meets Meg's dad or half sister. When he was not under some sort of control, Gary made very indiscreet comments about Kate and William.
First of all, people should have dignity... these family does not have! It's also quite weird that Samantha and her brother only cared for Meghan after 10 years... so never said anything never helped or congratulate for anything and now all this fuss? Did they go to the magazines when she got married in Jamaica? No. Did the make a big fuss at the time? No... So why now? Because they want to be seen as part o royalty and be able to cash in... It's incredible that all of them try to get advantages from this circus.... all of them can get money easily from this! They will not stop because of an invitation... and I believe Meghan knew that...
And doing all this fuss is even worse... but this is actually destroying their reputation both in Britain as in America... and everyone knows that in America someone being related to royalty is something big... for example all the people that work for royals if they go to America they have a very high salary...

^exactly.
The Markle’s saga’s the same with each article. It’s not worth the time really to keep posting their nonsense because they’re a joke along with Meghan.
Indeed, but from all of this, we will be able to see what will happen next... it's better the palace have a close eye on Meghan and start to collect evidence about her faults every time since the beginning so in the future it will be easier to do control damage...

Meghan’s a low tier actress trying to play duchess and Harry’s reduced to the dim prince celebrity. The nonsense will go on as long as Meghan’s attached to the royal family. The only interesting thing will be Meghan leaving and this lot goes back to living their lives in obscurity.
It's true... Meghan was never a big actress, her career was falling apart when she meets Harry. is not money that she wants(despite she is spending a lot) she wants fame... and she has now what she never had... it's incredible that she wants to be connected to the successful like Amal and George Cloney! and why that story came out... to try to clean an image that is damaged by her family, to try to distance herself from this circus...
Meghan will leave when the glitter disappears, and they (siblings) will be able to beat Harry side if she continues like this...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 22, 2018, 12:13:53 pm
'The apple doesn't fall far from the tree': Paul Burrell says Prince Harry is 'taking a leaf out of his mother Princess Diana's book' by freezing out Meghan's father Thomas Markle
Paul Burrell said Diana would have been 'furious' if someone betrayed her trust
Ex-butler added Meghan has 'something Diana never had' in Harry by her side
Comes after Burrell, 60, said 'someone has to fix' situation with Meghan's father
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6086071/Paul-Burrell-says-Prince-Harry-taking-leaf-Dianas-book-freezing-Thomas-Markle.html
This guy’s an idiot who just blabs on about nonsense. The only person to fix it is Meghan.  :bored:
Carol beg Wills to get back with Waity and the weak fool did after seeing her out in the press at clubs he used to go to and her at some party dressed as a slutty nurse. She encouraged her daughter to show Wills what he’s missing; an easy mattress with glossy hair and a vapid personality.  :bored:  The Midds are classless trash who use sex to manipulate their way to certain circles.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 22, 2018, 12:33:23 pm
^ So he's basically saying that Harry's a "furious" and "punishing by freezing out" kind of guy. In other words - emotionally unstable and the angry outburst can come any time when things  don't go his way... was this guy hired to help the Sucks' agenda or further dig the pit in which PH is in since Megan introduced herself into the world as his gf via DM and strategic instagrams.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 22, 2018, 01:02:27 pm
I used to like Paul but he’s just jumping on the bandwagon to keep his face in the public to get further commentary jobs like he did for the celebrity/networking/social media wedding. He wants to keep his image of a royal expert. He hasn’t seen Harry in over 20 years and I doubt if he’s in touch with anyone currently working in the royal household, so he basically knows nothing that’s currently going on. Meghan betrayed Harry’s trust with her games. She was only a fling/booty call per KP’s early statement when he was on the Caribbean tour as well as Dickie Arbitar. She definitely used the race card on him to make him feel guilty. The tables should be turned on her with whatever’s going on now. There’s no way that Harry can continue to drag her around at engagements without the Markle’s continuing their press games and Meghan playing victim. The plug has to be pulled now as it’s gotten way out of hand and dumb.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 01:09:11 pm
Harry dumped women before. LIke a typical Windsor man he becomes infatuated --she was more than a fling. His great Uncle loved them and left them until he met Wallis...Burrell is just trying to stay relevant. He probably wants to make more $$$ from another book but maybe nobody is buying. He has no real material for one anymore. The royals dealt with embarrassing episodes before with in-laws. The royals will keep up appearances and I think Harry and Meghan will continue their engagements.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on August 22, 2018, 01:14:52 pm
Harry is one of these desperate, not very swift guys who are bullied and lied to by their self-confident partners and believe all the lies they have been fed. I have seen this happen so close to home. These guys are known for being outwardly friendly, but they are the ones who feel it's their obligation to go after the in-laws and freeze them out. They do it all on their partner's word because after all they won't be lied to and played, right? Wrong - big time wrong. And then the truth comes out because some people know the full truth about the partners, and the partners fight back with even more ridiculous claims and lies. I could wager that Meghan went the "daddy abused me, etc, etc" route with Harry. Playing the eternal victim - we know how she plays the race card, eh? Mommy could be easily shut up because she has a record, etc, but more has to be used about Daddy. Meghan Markle is about as pathetic, low and cheap as they come. A true narc.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 01:27:04 pm
Most in-laws don't run to the media and complain. And most in-laws would be ignored by the media. The media wants the "big story" so they listen to the complaints of royal in laws and pay them for their troubles. Tom Sr does not just go and say what he really wants--there is IMO a hidden agenda. If he wanted a reunion with his daughter he could have done so privately. ANd I don't buy that is the only way he could get her to "listen."  Meghan and Harry have said nothing although I think the media want them to respond so a daily "battleground" in the media with headlines could take place.  Tom Sr must have a record too he seems to be in trouble with creditors and admitted drug use. Doria still is working so the  alleged "record" did not make her a pariah. I think Samantha is the worst of the lot, she probably told dad that she got some $$$ from going to the media and he wanted to join the gravy train. I think he expected to be housed at KP and set for life by his daughter marrying a Prince.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 22, 2018, 02:50:35 pm
There is a funny comedy called the Windsors which I can't wait to see what they do when they do an episode on the marklles. They have Harry as the dumbest drunken *butt* there is and Megan is actually portrayed as an ugly narcissistic idiot L A girl but not evil.  That is reserved for Cami.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 22, 2018, 03:50:13 pm
The interviews of Thomas Markle are completely innocent next to Diana & Charles interviews & books in 1990s. Harry looks like a total hypocrite and Meghan, well better not start about her... and all her gushing about the wonderful dad she was brought up by.... right before she met harry...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 03:55:08 pm
I think THomas Markle wants to be "famous" which is one motive for the interviews.He has his picture in the DM just about every single day. Unfortunately I think he also got greedy. Thomas Markle seems to be very stubborn he will keep this going until or if the press gets bored and ignores him. I think the Media want to stir things up so royals will respond to him (which I doubt will happen). Markle did not bother doing this when the relatively unknown  Trevor was married to Meghan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 22, 2018, 04:55:00 pm
^ I disagree. He has an Emmy - actual recognition for job well done. He has been on the red carpet. Unlike Megan who's famous for ... yachting. He worked on some of the biggest shows in my childhood. He took care of his kids and now he's old and broke and they repay him with ungratefulness. All 3 of them, but Megan has the biggest means to help him out. She forgets herself and where she came from so .. he goes to make money on his own. If anything, I feel pity for this 74 years old man.

Between Tom, Sam and Megan, I wouldn't call Sam the worst either. I always keep in mind that she is battling MS and needs money to cover medical bills while fighting a losing battle. If you have some time, read about MS. The way these people suffer is sad. 

Also, wouldn't you agree that Tom and Doria are incomparable. Yes, they both declared bankruptcy but only one of them was in jail. As was discussed uptread, social worker is right up an ex convict's alley as there's not that many places where they'll hire you. I'm not saying that Tom is an angel, there's most certainly something smelly there too, but only one of them wore an orange suit and it's the one who donned dreadlocks and nose ring on the wedding.

^^^^^ Snowpea, you and me both. This relationship, marriage, situation is so obvious that I can't comprehend why isn't everyone seeing it for what it is. One correction though, I'm starting to think that Megs is not a narc but a sociopath. Too little information about her childhood to go the psychopath route but definitely she's bigger evil than a narc.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 05:05:52 pm
I must confess I never heard of him before MEghan got engaged to Harry. I watched Married with CHildren too. It was not as if he were Tom Selleck or other Prime Time actors who are household names.

Meghan did have acting work in Suits. It was and is not a famous show and does not have high ratings.

Tom's finances were somewhat mysterious and allegedly he moved to Mexico to avoid debt problems. I don't think the royals are obligated to discuss family finances publicly. Or those marrying into the royal family. It was only when there are debt problems (like Sophie and Fergie had) that some inkling of financial trouble is revealed.

Having MS does not excuse bad behavior of Samantha IMO. Many people have the illness and they don't go out of their way to say ugly things to the media about family. Meghan is still part of her family no matter what. I still think Sam is the worst of them all. She IS healthy enough to try out for a reality show which does take some exertion (if she gets to go on the show). I think Sam is just mean and people who have MS do not need to be mean to others.

Nothing was ever revealed about how or why or if Doria was in prison. It was not bad enough that she could not work for a living and was barred from places where she wanted to work. She has a steady job. She could go to the media too and argue with her ex. But thankfully she does not.

I have no idea the motives for Harry and Meghan marrying. The reality is that only they know. I would not call Meghan a sociopath. She was not labeled that by any professionals. I think there was an effort by some Tumblr accounts to stop the wedding and it did not work out. I don't think favoring Tom and Sam would end the marriage. It might even bring Harry and Meghan closer together.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 22, 2018, 05:49:10 pm
Tom was a lightning director. We don't see the crew on set. Now, as for the cable show in Toronto. Basically, this is where actors who can't make it in Hollywood any longer go for a restart of whatever career is left. The other place is Hallmark. Extremely rarely an actress can go from a show in Canada to a Hollywood stardom. I'd say the only close up to a blockbuster for Megan was Bad bosses where she had a one liner and her acting skills were blah.

About MS, the bills are through the roof. Whatever disability is Sam on - for sure it doesn't cover the bills. I do't know if her children chip in on the help but a progressive disease where you just cough up money to keep going but will never be ok and will never be cured is a huge toll on the person suffering from it. The family too but the person - they change. They become snappy, nervous and dissatisfied with everything. For that I have sympathy for Sam. She doesn't have it easy.  

As for Doria - I don't know what her benefit is yet but for her to be silent I'd think it's not a coincidence and there's probably a monthly bonus for her silence.

As for Megan - I don't need tumblr to make my own conclusions. There are signs - h8ting on Kate, stirring up drama on blindgossip and lainey's gossip site, very sensitive to how good she looks in other people's eyes, mimicking Corey's gf in clothes, makeup, hairstyle, hobbies so that she can replace her, getting even with people she has perceived as treat, it's never her fault for anything - including the mess she is in with her family, there's constantly alternative facts presented by her PR and the PR is obvious (like Diana, independent american princess that comes to modernize the monarchy, anyone who disagrees with her is a misogynist, or jealous, or both), there is no, zero remorse in breaking up a marriage with a letter or for hooking up with the next guy while living with you boyfriend while telling the next guy that it's the other guy's fault, she's aggressive - we have multiple articles pointing how how she reacts to things not going her way, PC even had a nickname for her ... To me there is a clinical case here. The root of this problem is the parent who raised her to go to other people's birthdays so that she boss them around and self-proclaim herself to be a queen. I'm undecided which one of the two parents molded her this way but one thing is for sure - she's power hungry and playing second fiddle to "Princess Kate" will drive her bananas.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 22, 2018, 05:59:02 pm
Thing is, Hollywood stardom comes from building, not climbing; you can only go so far on posturing, but without real work, no one goes anywhere. As for Sam, I would be bitter too if I had a progressive disease and couldn't enjoy life to the full. People like this do become bitter and filled with hurt.

Meg MIGHT have had more, if she had spent more time working and not climbing. There is a difference and I am certain that Meg should have been less of an asinine activist and more of a worker bee.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 22, 2018, 06:05:47 pm
KF, the one thing I’d question about Murky ever doing anything truly serious with her acting was her simulation of s*x scenes.  It barely looks simulated.  Most big actresses are exceedingly careful in what they elect to do sexually in front of the camera, particularly when starting out. IMO Murky lacked the ‘it’ factor from the get go.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 06:07:52 pm
I read someplace that bitterness only hurts the person who is sick. She could have reached out and worked for MS charities. Going to the media and being vitriolic about her sister  is no way to earn money IMO anyway. There is no reason for her to lash out at Meghan--she appears to be doing it to get on reality shows for one thing. Sometimes reality shows will select relatives of the famous without the relative going to the media trashing the famous relative.

Going back to Ariel's post, Hallmark keeps on churning out movies and have marathons. IT does give some steady income to actors and actresses who don't quite get to the top rung of stardom. If Meghan had moved on to that it would have given her steady income.

I don't know what happened with Meghan and prior relationships. I will say that it takes two to make or break a relationship. I don't think only one of the parties was to blame. I doubt Meghan wants to be Queen or even thinks herself as such. She did get into the RF.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 22, 2018, 07:22:56 pm
I think THomas Markle wants to be "famous" which is one motive for the interviews.He has his picture in the DM just about every single day. Unfortunately I think he also got greedy. Thomas Markle seems to be very stubborn he will keep this going until or if the press gets bored and ignores him. I think the Media want to stir things up so royals will respond to him (which I doubt will happen). Markle did not bother doing this when the relatively unknown  Trevor was married to Meghan.
i dont get what your point here. according to Thomas, he attended to her 1st wedding. According to Meghan heself, he was very much part of her life back then. I dont think he'll be talking to press if Meghan hadnt cut him of her life because she sees him as unfit in her new life and because her royal in-laws disapprove of him. I remember it was a big surprise when they released he'll walk her during the wedding. i thought she and harry had been told off/pressured by someone (the queen or top coutier) that her father had to be there and Doria walk her will be a big no no. As Thomas himself, for 1 year he was quiet and press said what they liked about him. now he's bad because he wants defend himself.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 07:59:17 pm
Missing ingredient: Did Tom even try to reach Meghan or said he tried so he could get media attention?

Tom kept waffling about whether or not he'd be there during the week before the wedding.

He made things confusing and told conflicting things about his plans.

Trevor is far different than a Prince. If Tom had gone to the media and complained about his daughter not being nice to him while married to Trevor nobody would care. With the Prince he can get an audience and $$$ for his efforts.

What does he have to defend himself from? He has a platform and his picture appears in the DM every single day. I think he likes attention. Harry and Meghan have not gotten on the band wagon to say anything publicly to him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 22, 2018, 08:01:54 pm
EXCLUSIVE: 'If anyone can talk some sense into her father, it's Doria.' Meghan Markle is counting on her mom to sort out her drama with her spiteful dad during her upcoming visit to the US, friend reveals
The former Suits actress is preparing for a solo visit to her native California later this summer to spend time with close friends and family, ahead of her official visit with Prince Harry.
The source has revealed that Meghan may also use this time to do some damage control over the drama with Thomas Markle Sr, who has continued to 'embarrass' his daughter by slamming the royal family and airing his grievances to the press.
'It has just become so embarrassing for Meghan. Like the elephant in the room when she's with people she doesn't know very well,' the source said.
'What frustrates Meghan the most is that her father doesn't seem to take responsibility for any his actions, as if he can do no harm, and everyone else is to blame.  ???
'Well, he is harming her by putting down the royal family. He's harming her by making everything public. And the more he speaks with the media, the more she wants to stay away. The more he blasts the royal family, the more she wants to stay away.'  :tehe:
Meghan has been reluctant to get her mom Doria, 62, thrown into the mess, but things may change when they are reunited in Los Angeles, the source added.
'So far, Meghan's mom hasn't gotten involved, but that may all change when they see each other in person. Meghan has been adamant that her mom not get dragged into all the drama.
'But if anyone can talk some sense into her dad, it's Doria. Meghan is now open to the possibility of her mom working some magic behind the scenes.  ???
'In a perfect world, Meghan would have a reunion with her dad and he would not say one word about it.
'It's tricky because her dad will most likely tell his other children about it, and one of them will go blab about it to the world.
'When Meghan was younger she was the family people-pleaser, always trying to make others happy, including her dad. She's not the same person anymore. Of course she feels hurt.
'From the get-go, she made it crystal clear that speaking to the press was absolutely prohibited. That out of respect for Harry, this was completely taboo. Yet, time and again her dad continues to do the complete opposite. The last thing she ever wanted was a media circus starring her dad.'  :bored:
She is expected to travel to New York first and then to her hometown of Los Angeles.
The solo excursion will reportedly come before she and Harry embark on their first royal tour this fall.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6084427/Meghan-Markle-counting-mom-sort-drama-spiteful-dad.html
Poor Meghan, always the victim. The whole thing’s ridiculous that she again is bringing her Mum into it. They’re all in this together and want the royal family to offer some reaction, hence the attacking Harry and the royals. She’s either the source or she’s spoken to someone to have this article printed. I look forward to when it’s revealed that she’s been cooperating with the press and bad mouthing Harry and the royals.  :cookie:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/44f4f475df38813e3bb87a1a5b99a89a/tumblr_pdv75qG1dg1uh38om_540.png
True except that they’re in it together and want money to go away.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 08:26:47 pm
I thought Doria and TOm's divorce was acrimonious. How can she talk "sense" into him? Just who is this "friend" with these revelations? Harry's her meal ticket I doubt Meghan would arrange his being bad mouthed.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 22, 2018, 08:41:45 pm
I thought Doria and TOm's divorce was acrimonious. How can she talk "sense" into him? Just who is this "friend" with these revelations? Harry's her meal ticket I doubt Meghan would arrange his being bad mouthed.
don't have that idea... actually, they were amazing together... Meghan said that she did not feel that they break up...

Sandy, the way that you explain things or the way that you speak about Meghan and the Markles, makes me think that you are a Meghan fan, nothing against that but, don't you think that is limiting your vision towards the situation?
 - Do you really think that is normal someone breaks up a marriage by letter and send a wedding band by post? You are able to criticise kate, that was single to go to nightclubs to show William what he was missing... but you are not able to see that she was a coward  by doing this saying that its not her fault and need to be two to break a marriage, if its that, you will agree that someone that has the husband with a mistress is her fault... because she dedicated herself to a job children and home... it's not always like we need two to break a marriage!!!

Actually, MS is a disease that can make someone go really down and people can rail against the world... if I think that they are ok doing this? No of course not, but any of them has a respectful manner! With this family, we can see that Meghan is a social climber that does not have an education or pedigree to be where she is... And for me, she is a thousand times worse than Kate, because she is able to use people and is not even able to say thanks, to your own blood, like she did with her uncle!!! You never saw Uncle Gary rail against any member of the family, or even about BRF, you only listen him saying that we will have privileges, and look at the moment he does not have access to any of them... And what about this family?

Like I said... I think the better thing to the palace to do is to save all the clues and things so one day when she does to harry the same thing that she did to Trevor, to have everything against her because she will be a *female dog* and use all the cards and lies against them... the circus that you see now it will be the circus that will happen when they break up.... she will want the money, the celebrity and the status!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 09:05:53 pm
 I don't understand. I am called a "fan" simply because I don't blame Meghan for it all. I think her father and half siblings are very wrong running to the media and badmouthing. There are two sides to everything.

As far as Trevor and Meghan I doubt the story will be told. She did not keep the ring but sent it back. Both share the blame for the divorce IMO.  Trevor is human and flawed just like Meghan is.

Meghan could not have "climbed" without Harry's participation and cooperation. The blind date could have been a disaster. LIke many of them are.

I did read that bitterness is unhealthy and can cause health issues like ulcers. MS is a disease but it does not give Samantha carte blanche to be nasty and run to the press and audition for reality shows to "get" her half sister. I don't get all the hostility from her . I think she would have been invited had she kept her mouth shut and not indicated she was writing a "Princess Pushy" book.

Meghan does have a University degree and the royals don't seem to go by "pedigree" anymore judging from those marrying into the family of late.

What did she "do" to Trevor? Both sides of the story have not come out. Why is it assumed SHE was the guilty one? I think both are culpable. In all fairness. And no it does not make me a "fan" because I don't put all the onus on Meghan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 22, 2018, 09:23:13 pm
Sending the rings back via post instead of facing him like any decent person normally would doesn't make her look like she can handle anything herself. Now it's being reported that Momma is being asked to clean up her mess.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 22, 2018, 09:26:14 pm
The circumstances are not known. She did not keep the ring and that would have been a whole lot worse IMO. Maybe there was just too much acrimony going on for them to meet in person. I don't think it a requirement for her to personally give him back the rings. The marriage was over and done. There was no hope for a reconciliation apparently. Holding out some hope for the marriage would have been a motive if they decided to meet in person. I've heard of many cases of divorced couples where they don't want to see each other and each visits the marital home separately to take possessions they were allotted in the divorce.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 22, 2018, 09:30:23 pm
I don't understand. I am called a "fan" simply because I don't blame Meghan for it all. I think her father and half siblings are very wrong running to the media and badmouthing. There are two sides to everything.

But for you the blame of it all belongs with Thomas, no?. No comment about Meghan's comments for years about her having a good father... or the fact everyone else thought Thomas wouldnt attend to the wedding during the engagement days. I'm not talking about Thomas interviews - which confirmed what everyone else thought of the situation



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 22, 2018, 09:34:23 pm
^^ Yes, the circumstances are known. Trevor was completely blindsided.

At first I was rooting for Smirky. That lasted a hot minute. :-


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 22, 2018, 09:36:32 pm
Could be wrong that this thread’s getting a little hot but I am respectfully asking everyone to take a step back from this for a few minutes, relax and try not to get emotionally invested in these people.  They aren’t worth it.  Thank you!   :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on August 23, 2018, 12:39:45 pm
I don't understand. I am called a "fan" simply because I don't blame Meghan for it all.

You don't blame Meghan for any of it! Every single post you have made about Meghan has been defending her corner.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 23, 2018, 01:33:17 pm
^she can see her point, and of course, it's not only her fault... but the problem is the things that we are using to justify...
The idea that Middletons are worse than this family is so wrong... Did the Middletons come to the public to do this? This family is an embracement not only for BRF as the Americans as well...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 23, 2018, 02:12:42 pm
On the promo for the 100th episode of Suits Megan said that she's such a fraud for claiming on her casting that she's not married and not in a committed relationship while in fact she was married. The issue I have with Megsy is that she lies. She's a compulsive liar and master manipulator. Of course, the truth comes out ("I didn't know anything about brf or Harry" turned out to be: "I've been a fan of Di all my life", "I've been blabbing how important is Di to everyone and how I admire her", "I have copied Di in the pictures down to the posture", "I have written about Princess Kate"). I'm sure she already has a new angle, a new explanation, etc etc as to why the lie was told and inexperienced people with antisocial personality disorders will not see the red flags until it's too late and they are broke and with a broken heart and soul.

If you're habitually in the company of such manipulative liar over time you'll start questioning what is real. That's their goal. They WILL try to convince you that whatever they say as real is real and everything else is "alternative facts" or "not really what's happening". Going back to my assessment that Meg is not a narc but a sociopath - in the articles about her we've had zero articles about her being amiable and every article is either about how awesome she things she is or how she's pissed at somebody for something. That rage, most probably internalized misogyny (pure h8 on any woman who is more than her or has achieved more than her - Gal Gadot for sure, Kate, Zara for displaying publicly her loving relationship with her husband, ... ) is to me an indication that there's a mental health problem at stake and it's the kind where everyone around them suffers at the end, everyone but them because they've moved on quickly to the next victim. It's just a matter of time until Harry draws the short straw.

As for comparisons between the Medds and the Sparkles - I don't see them as appropriate because some key things are forgotten like: they are from different class, different cultures, different countries. If there's one thing that is comparable to me is that Kate with her 15 years in the brf (that includes the gf days) she's always shown loyalty to the crown. Something that either Markles not Meghan show or ever intend to have. Just looking at Meghan - she doesn't stick for the long haul. What kind of man is ok to be used as a car on a lease ..?

As for Hallmark - I don't miss an episode. I have my favorite actresses and I follow them religiously. What I can say is - yes, Hallmark is a great way to have a steady income. But, you have to have good acting skills and be memorable and sweet. Megan is none. If I was to compare Megan's acting skills - it would be to what Stormy showed on an SNL sketch: in her own words: We are not known for good acting skills.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 02:13:20 pm
As I said I think Meghan is a flawed person and "human" not a saint. I never said she was.

I disagree that she is a sociopath. She never committed a crime. I'd like to point out I doubt there are people in the world who "never" tell lies. I can write quite a few told by the "perfect" family she married into.

Meghan's kin trash the royals. I have not heard Meghan say a single thing against the Crown. If she had she'd have been tossed out by the Queen. pronto.


I don't understand. I am called a "fan" simply because I don't blame Meghan for it all.

You don't blame Meghan for any of it! Every single post you have made about Meghan has been defending her corner.

I said there was a lot of dysfunction to go around,.

I said she was a flawed person in a few posts.

I did disagree with her being blamed for it all. I disagree that Tom and Sam are doing the right thing running to the media. And I do think it is for money.

I stand by my opinion.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 23, 2018, 02:17:31 pm
^ OF course they do it for the money. I have no doubt about it. All 3 of them are raised in H'wood and they are a product of this H'weird culture where badmouthing relatives for money in the press is "normal".


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 23, 2018, 02:20:59 pm
I really do think Murkel is an embarrassment for Americans. People all over the world are probably thinking typical plebeian American. The days of Jackie O are over. And as an American I know they're many more of us that are far more respectable. but none of them are the one that was chosen to be paraded to the public.
Perhaps Perhaps it is true that some on this thread say nobody respectable would want to be in that family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 02:23:43 pm
As an American, I have the impression that many just don't care one way or the other. I don't see any "anger" against her here but then again no real great interest. I said in another thread the royalty issue of People did not exactly jump off the newsstands. I saw many left over copies. I do think the royal family declined in status. I did watch the documentary on ABC and found it mostly propaganda for the royals and a lot of "spin."


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 23, 2018, 02:28:12 pm
There is a lot of support out there for Thomas and his GoFundMe Page is now up and running. Extra monies will be going to Oxfam.  Watch this space for his fan club too.  He is naturally angry at being sidelined after a everything he did for Murkles.  In many ways he isn’t as bad as the Midds who were far more cunning with their mooching and reeling in of dumb naive willy.  Their ghastly smug gurning faces kept popping up everywhere for years.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 02:33:17 pm
The Markle clan are barely mentioned on the news shows here. I think once in about the last three weeks. I think there is more indifference than great interest. I think Tom appreciates attention but I would not join a fan club for him. I think he did some self sabotaging of his "chances" to mingle with royalty. Somehow I think this will be all patched up (how? I can't say).


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 23, 2018, 02:33:43 pm
it's obvious her father just started to talk because he was cut off contact, it'll be convenient to her, he just disappeared but he doesnt want to be convenient to her. she made her bed, after all according to HERSELF he was a wonderful father who taught her work ethic etc her insta and tig blog were full of stuff about him, but now she wants nothing to do with him.  the fact that meghan fans likes make up stuff about this man, dont changes what was a fact according to meghan herself for about 30 years and so...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 02:46:55 pm
At this point IMO nothing is obvious. What triggered this perhaps took place the week before the wedding, so many conflicting stories. I think one would have to live with the families to know what is really going on or be the proverbial fly on the wall.

It is not "known" she wants nothing to do with him because she never said this publicly. It's a he said she said sort of situation now. He speaks she doesn't but there are "sources" allegedly "speaking for her."

Maybe he was a wonderful father to her, she said so but something happened to trigger this rift. Whether the full story will come out or not is difficult to say.

Nothing is 'made up' about Tom he says what he says to the media and he is who he is. And as I said there is his side, her side and the truth somewhere in between.

I think there will be a reconciliation behind the scenes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 23, 2018, 02:54:03 pm
Perhaps they'll be a reconciliacion behind-the-scenes or perhaps he'll just have a heart attack and died suddenly ala a Diana


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 23, 2018, 02:54:21 pm
“Happy Father’s Day, daddy. I’m still your buckaroo, and to this day your hugs are still the very best in the whole wide world,” the star wrote on Instagram in 2016 — sharing a throwback snap of her with her father when she was a baby. “Thanks for my work ethic, my love of Busby Berkeley films & club sandwiches, for teaching me the importance of handwritten thank you notes, and for giving me that signature Markle nose. I love you xo -Bean,” she added.

'It was the late Seventies when my parents met, my dad was a lighting director for a soap opera and my mom was a temp at the studio,' she wrote. 'I like to think he was drawn to her sweet eyes and her Afro, plus their shared love of antiques. Whatever it was, they married and had me,' she added.

On The Tig, the 36-year-old wrote: 'My father was the lighting director on two television shows as I was growing up.

'And there I was, behind the scenes of a glossy soap opera and a TV sitcom, surrounded by famous actors and their glam teams, multi-million dollar budgets, and crew lunches that always included filet mignon and enough sweets to make you think you were at Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory.'

Meghan once told Vanity Fair her father Thomas was proud of achievements as an actress 'above all people'. 'My father knew how hard it is for an actor to get work,' she said.

3. He taught his daughter to define her own identity
Following a devastating moment at school when her teacher told her to check the box for Caucasian on a mandatory census, leaving her to leave the box blank in confusion, Markle wrote in ELLE UK that her father told her: 'If that happens again, you draw your own box.' 'I never saw my father angry, but in that moment I could see the blotchiness of his skin crawling from pink to red. It made the green of his eyes pop and his brow was weighted at the thought of his daughter being prey to ignorance. Growing up in a homogeneous community in Pennsylvania, the concept of marrying an African-American woman was not on the cards for my dad.'



Obviously everything that Meghan said about her dad is a 'maybe'... who knows IF ANY OF THAT IS TRUE :rolleyes:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 02:55:06 pm
He won't die if he watches his diet and listens to his doctors. Did he have a stent put in? In all the confusion was this ever confirmed?

I am predicting a reconciliation around the holidays later in the year.

As I said dianab, her praising her father is out there. But families sometimes DO have disputes and rifts even members of the closest of families. Unfortunately, disputes and friction happen. Something happened the week before the wedding Up until then all reports said Tom was going and would give her away. The press had tracked him down sometime well before the wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 23, 2018, 03:08:36 pm
@ Sandy he won't have a choice about his heart attack if dies a la Diana. And now that I see what is posted about how she complimented her father a few years ago I have really started to dislike her immensely. What a Hypocritical vile creature she is. Thanks for enlightening me with your posts.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 23, 2018, 03:24:00 pm
You know, no one has any right to tell Meg's family to shut up; this is the US and we're citizens, not subjects. See, this is why princes have got to think like the sons of prominent politicians. I do know that it's time to drop the fairy-tale BS and basically smarten up; no one owes Harry or Meg anything and it's clear that Meg hasn't treated her family well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 23, 2018, 03:35:43 pm
@ Sandy he won't have a choice about his heart attack if dies a la Diana. And now that I see what is posted about how she complimented her father a few years ago I have really started to dislike her immensely. What a Hypocritical vile creature she is. Thanks for enlightening me with your posts.

As I said, the ultimate responsibility for staying well is Tom's. If he is not taking the proper medicine or going on a strict diet, he is doing himself in. he is a grown up not a child. I hope he listens to his doctors and has no danger of getting a heart attack. Diana died in an auto accident but did not get to the hospital in time, she was doomed. Tom fortunately has a second chance to live a healthier lifestyle. The attack (did he get a stent put in?) should be a wake up call for him. This should be Tom's main goal, to get better and  healthy.

I hope there is a reconciliation. I think there is dysfunction. And they don't treat each other well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 23, 2018, 03:45:02 pm
@ Sandy he won't have a choice about his heart attack if dies a la Diana. And now that I see what is posted about how she complimented her father a few years ago I have really started to dislike her immensely. What a Hypocritical vile creature she is. Thanks for enlightening me with your posts.
welcome  :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 23, 2018, 08:13:05 pm
Another hilarious article in BayouBuzz by Sarah Whalen.  I haven’t stopped laughing!https://www.bayoubuzz.com/bb/item/1063559-are-meghan-and-the-markles-in-same-league-as-kate-and-the-middletons


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 23, 2018, 08:35:11 pm
There is a lot of support out there for Thomas and his GoFundMe Page is now up and running. Extra monies will be going to Oxfam.  Watch this space for his fan club too.  He is naturally angry at being sidelined after a everything he did for Murkles.  In many ways he isn’t as bad as the Midds who were far more cunning with their mooching and reeling in of dumb naive willy.  Their ghastly smug gurning faces kept popping up everywhere for years.  


You forget Uncle Gary and his pimping and drugs. I don't mean to be unkind but Thomas is not exactly a good looking  guy and I  think she's ashamed of her family.  However just marrying a royal and wearing expensive clothes doesn't change who she is as a person. She wants to ditch everything that reminds people where she really came from


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on August 23, 2018, 08:39:28 pm
^^Highly entertaining indeed!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on August 23, 2018, 08:48:18 pm
Sarah's piece brilliant as always. Hope she keeps them coming


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 24, 2018, 04:07:04 pm
The Markle clan are barely mentioned on the news shows here. I think once in about the last three weeks. I think there is more indifference than great interest. I think Tom appreciates attention but I would not join a fan club for him. I think he did some self sabotaging of his "chances" to mingle with royalty. Somehow I think this will be all patched up (how? I can't say).
Sandy, I don't want to be rude.... but the world is not the USA only! Here in Europe, and I can say Germany, Spain France and a lot of other countries people watch what it happens... not that this will be major things in their lives but people start to make questions how he end up with an American... just by looking to certain behaviour that is not acceptable!!! In fact that are people starting to say: well she is American... and all this press makes people remember the Diana and Charles saga!
This is looking bad to the BRF, and people are blaming the American citizen!!! for a lot of spending, for bad press, and apparently people are saying that the queen is rolling her eyes and fuming because she never wanted her father there, that she lies, and she are putting a PR there to save her *butt* and make people believing that she is the victim... she is not and anyone is buying that BS


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 24, 2018, 04:18:06 pm
I know that. I was responding to a post about her subject to opinion assessment by Americans.


Since Harry married her why not blame him for proposing and he's not an American? She could not propose to him.
I do think in those other countries there is indifference as well. I think people have other things to worry about like the economy and politics. Harry has no power really and neither does Meghan.

Her relatives are hardly the first to go to the media to "make a case." This is old hat now IMO.
I don't get why the American citizen is blamed.  They could not have a referendum to keep Meghan from marrying Harry. It was out of their hands totally.
Meghan did not run for office where "Americans" could be blamed for voting her in. Harry and Meghan are a mere radar blip now with the political drama going on in the US now. The only effort was the overhyped ABC show about her 'changing the world' which I don't buy into and I doubt all Americans do.

I don't know how the Queen feels and I think the eye rolling is just putting some drama into an article. She's not going to refute it because she probably never reads the articles and would not bother in any case.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 24, 2018, 05:14:06 pm
At this point, no one has any right to tell the Markles to shut up and let Meg get on with her life scot-free from her past. She has no business putting on airs despite being exposed as having lived a lie for the most of her life and I am certain that no one in the US owes the Windsors anything.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 24, 2018, 05:38:16 pm
This is in response to Dianab and Sandy and my comments about Murky's post  on Father's Day June 2016. She just started dating Harry then or was about to. She has this wonderful post about her father at that time. Now things have crumbled since she got Harry. Or was the post a lie back then? I forgot that my 29 year old niece who is one of the PR persons for Amazon TV series and who graduated USC (which my whole family has including me) and is very in the know about things Hollywood through her college, high school and work connections. This is her third PR job and she keeps getting recruited to higher positions. I say this because she knows the scoop and knows people.  Her comment about Murky when the news of her and Harry's engagement became known was Murky is the one with a blog that she doesn't even write. My niece's friend was actually hired to write it and the articles. And my niece was smirking about that. I believe she knows that is true and Murky is a typical,l fake actress type. But when I realized that "Buckeroo is a California term and her dad is from Pennsylvania and that he most likely did not call her that nor has she ever said that in interviews of her background, it was untrue. Most likely her father did not teach her to write "thank you" notes and most likely did not tell her to draw her own race box on applications as it doesn't sound like her father. He is  a blue, blue collar man. That the blog was written by my nieces friend and drew on her experiences not Murky's. But Murks wanted a good Father's Day blog to show how considerate she is. Clearly the best hugs were not from her dad. She hardly saw him as an adult. So either way it is bad. Because either she is a liar and fake or she did write that blog and dissed her father when she got an in with Harry. Either way, what a piece of trash.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 24, 2018, 05:50:31 pm



Since Harry married her why not blame him for proposing and he's not an American? She could not propose to him.

Sandy, I was under the impression that true feminists can propose to a man.  Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I did think that could be done now days.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 24, 2018, 07:08:56 pm
I think she coerced her way into a proposal. Her being in Europe is making her the ambassador of Americans in Europe, apart from Trump. She's so nouveau riche flashy that if people were not obliged to talk to her or serve her she'll get a lot of backs turned at her. Like, for real.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 24, 2018, 08:16:08 pm
Her being my representative in Europe is frightening.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 24, 2018, 08:40:00 pm



Since Harry married her why not blame him for proposing and he's not an American? She could not propose to him.

Sandy, I was under the impression that true feminists can propose to a man.  Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I did think that could be done now days.

The fly in the ointment is that Harry is a senior royal. THey are the ones to propose. I'm not talking about "ordinary" people I am talking Harry here. Kate could not propose to WIll either and had to wait it out. That's the way they operate

I think she coerced her way into a proposal. Her being in Europe is making her the ambassador of Americans in Europe, apart from Trump. She's so nouveau riche flashy that if people were not obliged to talk to her or serve her she'll get a lot of backs turned at her. Like, for real.

She couldn't coerce her way into it. Harry had to do it as a royal. Unless she was Queen she had no power to propose to him. He made the choice to do this.

She can't be the ambassador of AMericans unless she is appointed by the President. Due to her being an HRH now that is impossible. As I said she really does not have much of a say in things and neither does Harry (except when it comes to proposing)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Bella on August 24, 2018, 10:34:43 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if Mucky Murky was sent to the UK for other reasons by some strong people & had info on PH & felt it was an easy way to get into the RF for reasons that I think will surface soon. There's more to this than we know & might be why HM kept looking back in the church, IMO.  I don't trust any of her family & her Mom coming to live in the UK is part of the plan.

When all of this goes down, they're all going to be running for cover but am hoping it happens sooner than later, including the truth about the 3 sports & hope there's not a 4th popping up anywhere!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Little light on August 25, 2018, 12:32:46 am
Who are the three sports please? Thanks.  :thankyou:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 25, 2018, 12:43:37 am
Sandy, when I say American citizen, the American citizen is Meghan!

Off course that in all the countries people have more to do, and care about this circus will not pay their bills.. only the Markles bills, not even ours to be here... but people read because there is always news about it... I have been in the last 3 months in 3 different countries in Europe. and the news about this saga was on tv, newspapers... I have a friend that came to visit me and other friends she is from Switzerland, in Europe you have all the news at the minute, so anything that happens in the world you know, and she said: again Meghan Markle and her family... I had enough of this vulgar American family! So yes, she is bringing bad publicity to the states...

Regarding the QEII, everyone knows that QE likes/loves good publicity, that why she has a big Pr team and spin doctors for that! People are not putting drama, everyone knows that Meghan just got bad light about all this... apparently lies and all other stuff, we have on the news that QEII forbids Meghan to go near the press and put more PR playing the victim that anyone believes! And the Queen reads the newspaper, even Sarah Ferguson told that when she was in Balmoral when the scandal of her toe broke the queen left all the newspapers in her place so she could see all of them!!

By the way, the last blast from Meghan via daily mail was that she will put her mum speaking with dad to sort issues, well in the past she was able to send the message straight away via social media, she did not ask anyone to do it... why now when she is 37!!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 25, 2018, 12:51:23 am
I think Meg's family explains her climbing; usually if someone is climbing, it means that they're trying to escape something in their past. Meg not wanting her father to walk her down the aisle basically shows that she wishes she had been born into a posher family set and wealthier background. Her family didn't provide her with the ability to spend like she does now and clearly Meg isn't interested in being a wife, so much as an adoptee into the BRF.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 25, 2018, 01:03:37 am
Who are the three sports please? Thanks.  :thankyou:
I think Bella meant the three sprogs. :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 25, 2018, 06:37:17 am
I think Meg's family explains her climbing; usually if someone is climbing, it means that they're trying to escape something in their past. Meg not wanting her father to walk her down the aisle basically shows that she wishes she had been born into a posher family set and wealthier background. Her family didn't provide her with the ability to spend like she does now and clearly Meg isn't interested in being a wife, so much as an adoptee into the BRF.

IMO this line of thinking is so wrong on so many levels that I don't know where to begin with. Megan's family: the Markles, put her through expensive private schools, European trips, job at a foreign embassy. It's not like they didn't give her anything or enough. She was raised as a spoiled brat and she proved to be one, expecting that someone else will foot the bill.

Family is not there to provide a mooch of a member with no spending limit for stupid things like the rumored recreational substances. Family is there to love and care for each other and from what they did for her - I'd say that they cared and loved her enough. Still, she stabbed them in the back anyways.

IMO, Doria going to KP to help is really leveraging the experience she got from behind the bars. BRF are in deep, deep trouble imo. Some very deep sweeping should happen soon.
  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 25, 2018, 02:21:29 pm
 Completely agree with you Ariel. :D

In fact, the person that gave her less was her mum... and she is close to her...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 25, 2018, 03:19:14 pm
What is the crime Doria committed? She has no felony history in Los Angeles County and no misdemeanors in unincorporated areas of Los Angeles County. If she committed a misdemeanor in Los Angeles city, it would be at most a year in county jail and unlikely any jail time the first time around misdemeanor short of a drunk driving with injuries or involuntary manslaughter that was some accident really. Where was this so called crime committed that she did serious jail time that Murks had to go to daddy to live? Or is she mental and was committed for awhile?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Bella on August 25, 2018, 03:46:39 pm
@Little Light @DeGuernsey
TY DeGuernsey for posting “sprogs” It’s that spell check that likes to print what it likes @ times & I’ve been lucky for over a year til now. I better keep an eye on it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 25, 2018, 04:05:51 pm
^^ We don't know. Someone had checked her background and there were sealed records but the way they were sealed lead us to believe that it was a report that can be written only if you've been behind bars. What is it exactly, we do not know. For a while now there has been rumors about Doria missing many years from the upbringing of her daughter, which could explain why Megan was constantly saying that she grew up on the set of Married with Children (leveraging her father for her own claim to fame much). We also don't know what Doria did for a living all these years. We know all about Tom's career - it's on imdb. Doria's silence makes me thing that she's hiding something. She went to talk to Oprah. I don't think that she had said the truth, only what's convenient to Megan, but that story was killed and we may never know what it was all about.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Little light on August 25, 2018, 04:22:37 pm
Thanks for the replies to my queries about her 3 sports.

I actually thought I’d speed read it too fast and missed an important fact! Not like me, right? lol

So thanks guys for keeping me right.  :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 25, 2018, 04:45:03 pm
'It's a disaster, really': How Meghan Markle's dad became a headache for the Royals
Rift between Prince Harry’s wife and her father may not have significant impact on perception of Royals
"It's all very sad. It's a disaster, really," said U.K.-based author and royal biographer Penny Junor.
The Markle debacle — as it's been dubbed in some British tabloids — ramped up in earnest with the whole shemozzle over whether the retired TV lighting director would walk his daughter down the aisle for the May 19 wedding at Windsor Castle. In the end, he didn't and Harry's dad, Prince Charles, stepped in.
Each time Markle speaks, it just seems to add to the negative narrative developing around him.
"I have been watching with a certain amount of interest and it does seem like a bad episode ... of Coronation Street, a soap opera," said British public relations expert Mark Borkowski, who has worked with everyone from Michael Jackson to Mikhail Gorbachev.
Meghan's father "will say exactly what he likes and so will the rest of them," said Junor, who sees one of the main problems lying in Meghan's American heritage, and how her family won't have "the sort of inbred respect" for the Royal Family that is held by the British and people in Commonwealth countries.
"They don't have that innate respect, and why should they? From their perspective, this is just a family with a lot of money and a lot of power, soft power, who … they would argue are behaving badly."
And maybe the Royal Family hasn't had its finest hour trying to sort out this mess.
"First of all, Harry should have met her father … before the wedding," said Junor, who knows Harry and speaks highly of him as a man who is kind, thoughtful, genuine and has "won hearts all over the place."
She also sees a lapse in judgment, possibly on the part of Harry and Meghan, in not sending somebody from Kensington Palace to explain to Meghan's father what might happen with the media onslaught he was likely to face in the wake of the engagement.
Beyond that, Junor questions why Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland, was the only member of her family at the wedding.
"We all have relatives that perhaps we are not so keen to see. Being in that position and having a wedding with that sort of profile, I think you just have to bite the bullet and invite your relatives," said Junor.
"Maybe they are terrible, there is no relationship," said Junor, "but it … just opens up the possibility of the media getting in and causing havoc, which is exactly what happened."
PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
Still, for an organization like the House of Windsor, which is so concerned about its public image — and which has had some success boosting that image in recent years — how did everything go so far off the rails?
"I think it's crept up on them," said Borkowski. "Everybody makes mistakes and I think it was a mistake that was made, and it's a very difficult one to recover from. Maybe they tried."
From Borkowski's perspective, the palace needs to keep Meghan's father at "arm's length because anything they're likely to try and do he's going to use for his own income."
Borkowski expects there have been numerous attempts through intermediaries to sort this out, "but really it's between a daughter and her father."  :thumbsup:
For all the tabloid attention the Markle debacle has foisted on the Royal Family, there isn't a sense it is having a significant negative impact on the public perception of Meghan and Harry and the House of Windsor right now.
"It seems like a bad narrative going on, but I think people want to see Harry and Meghan succeed in terms of a relationship," Borkowski said.  :thumbsdown: Very wrong as they want her gone and Harry's image has taken a bad hit. He's seen as a weak, mama's boy fool letting his older slapper run thr roost.
"There's so much negativity around at the moment here, the Brexit and all the other bits and pieces. They want good news stories. They aren't looking for bad news stories. They don't want something else being destroyed by this rather strange character living out of a trailer park on the Mexico-California border, wherever it is."
Junor said there's a "huge amount of affection" for Harry in the U.K. "I think there is a lot of affection for Meghan as well."  ??? Umm, no there isn't.
Still, the Markle debacle has been something of a downer after the joy and happiness that surrounded the couple at the time of their marriage in May.
"There was that magical wedding," said Junor. "They set off with fantastic good will, and this [is] really sad."  :bored:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thomas-markle-rift-royal-family-harry-meghan-1.4793172
This has to be manufactored dama and concern because it makes the royal famly look totally inept. I agree hat Meg will have to sort out her family because as long as she's there, so wll the Markle's and the press.
^using Harry to hide the issue of the 3 "sprigs" will definitely backfire as it'll coe out anyway especially a time goes by and their looks change.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 25, 2018, 04:58:21 pm
Someone should tell Junor that there wasn't any real goodwill; Harry's wedding would have attracted crowds and press because of who he is, not because he himself as a person is so wonderful that he has set off on a great new era and it's not because of Meg as a person, but anyone who married Harry would have gotten good coverage. The majority of the comments surrounding the wedding have been negative in the extreme and I am certain that people are tired adn want real leadership.

As for the Markles, there's nothing to sort out; no one owes the BRF silence and considering how Meg was pampered by her family, I am certain that she should have had her father there, walking her down the aisle. He gave her EVERYTHING and the best he could afford, she has no business being ungrateful.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 25, 2018, 05:10:28 pm
@ Ariel A sealed record could mean juvenile history which is way before the Murks was born. Other than that, it might be a mental health issue. Not many things are sealed and adult criminal records are expunged but not sealed unless there is some high confidentiality issue such as a government informant or something. I understood Doria to be a make-up artist and no job of significance until she got a degree and worked as a social worker and she teaches yoga which many people do as a side. Murks childhood friend who Murks dumped talks about Doria as a free spirit type but she seemed around.  Do we know for sure that she lived with her father only during any period from the biographies. They may have had joint split custody as an agreement. That is big here in Los Angeles, a week with one, a week with another or split weeks. That is more likely what happened unless Doria took off with some man for awhile. I don't think the criminal angle is true about Doria. the Markles have rap sheets at least the siblings of Murks.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 25, 2018, 05:31:57 pm
This is in response to Dianab and Sandy and my comments about Murky's post  on Father's Day June 2016. She just started dating Harry then or was about to. She has this wonderful post about her father at that time. Now things have crumbled since she got Harry. Or was the post a lie back then? I forgot that my 29 year old niece who is one of the PR persons for Amazon TV series and who graduated USC (which my whole family has including me) and is very in the know about things Hollywood through her college, high school and work connections. This is her third PR job and she keeps getting recruited to higher positions. I say this because she knows the scoop and knows people.  Her comment about Murky when the news of her and Harry's engagement became known was Murky is the one with a blog that she doesn't even write. My niece's friend was actually hired to write it and the articles. And my niece was smirking about that. I believe she knows that is true and Murky is a typical,l fake actress type. But when I realized that "Buckeroo is a California term and her dad is from Pennsylvania and that he most likely did not call her that nor has she ever said that in interviews of her background, it was untrue. Most likely her father did not teach her to write "thank you" notes and most likely did not tell her to draw her own race box on applications as it doesn't sound like her father. He is  a blue, blue collar man. That the blog was written by my nieces friend and drew on her experiences not Murky's. But Murks wanted a good Father's Day blog to show how considerate she is. Clearly the best hugs were not from her dad. She hardly saw him as an adult. So either way it is bad. Because either she is a liar and fake or she did write that blog and dissed her father when she got an in with Harry. Either way, what a piece of trash.
i understand meghan said in interviews it was her father who told her to write to Hillary Clinton as a girl at school (i was surprised it wasnt doria). i believe the stuff she said he taught her and he was her big influence growing up. she spend time with him in in sets etc. it's interesting meghan didnt say doria (her black mother) taught her things like work ethic, to write thank you notes. as for thomas i think he is pretty much settled in LA life and made his life there, i dont doubt he used/s California expressions.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 25, 2018, 05:59:00 pm
^ You could be right but it doesn't seem likely he told her to write thank you notes. He raised a lot of tacky children and doesn't seem the type schooled in etiquette. Now the nuns at Immaculate Heart are schooled in etiquette. And I don't think she was his buckaroo. He didn't work on western sets. He worked on Married with Children, a off beat comedy, and a soap opera. People who come here still keep their upbringing terms, such as the New Yorkers for example. They talk different than we natives. On the other hand it is small differences as we are pretty homogeneous as Americans these days. But all of this is irrelevant to what I was saying. She didn't write the Tig, she approved was written by her employee.  She most likely didn't write that Father's Day blog. Soap Operas and Married with Children were not glamourous, multi million dollar sets. I've been on both. The food is pretty good I must admit on most sets, that is true. Filet Mignon is a bit of a stretch.  What I am saying that if she wrote that blog and it is true, I find her abhorrent in her treatment of her father after dating/marrying Harry. If it was a glammed up PR for her blog, it is just as bad as it is misleading, lies about her real relationship and experiences with her father and done to make Harry and others think what a wonderful daughter she is.  I was just so appalled to read it given what transpired. And I do not understand how people can stand her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 25, 2018, 06:06:23 pm
Expunged, not sealed. My bad.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 25, 2018, 06:27:22 pm
Then she has a record but from what state or what county in what state.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 25, 2018, 07:04:52 pm
I wish we knew.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 25, 2018, 08:25:59 pm
Markle debacle rocks the royals
Prince Harry is said to be protective, Prince Charles understanding — and the Queen just rolls her eyes as if to say ‘here we go again’. We’re talking about Meghan and the endless lurid headlines about her troublesome father and dysfunctional family.
It’s barely 100 days since her wedding to Harry and already Her Maj senses trouble.
What a difference compared with Wills and Kate. He married a young woman from a stable background and found the security he longed for after his mother’s death.
The Middleton clan, meanwhile, has behaved impeccably.
Not so the Markles, and the resulting tension is spreading through the Royal Household. Let’s hope Harry and Megs find a way to deal with it — Diana always said it was her youngest she was most worried about.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6096653/PLATELLS-PEOPLE-Strictlys-judge-Shirley-Ballas-victim-Cougar-Club-Curs.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 25, 2018, 11:03:47 pm
I really doubt the QUeen goes around rolling her eyes. She ostriches.THe fallout of this that bothers me is the overpraise of the Middletons who are not exactly people to write home about.




Someone should tell Junor that there wasn't any real goodwill; Harry's wedding would have attracted crowds and press because of who he is, not because he himself as a person is so wonderful that he has set off on a great new era and it's not because of Meg as a person, but anyone who married Harry would have gotten good coverage. The majority of the comments surrounding the wedding have been negative in the extreme and I am certain that people are tired adn want real leadership.

As for the Markles, there's nothing to sort out; no one owes the BRF silence and considering how Meg was pampered by her family, I am certain that she should have had her father there, walking her down the aisle. He gave her EVERYTHING and the best he could afford, she has no business being ungrateful.

If Junor is praising Meghan she must be in good with C and C because Junor is their mouthpiece. Junor as a royal commentator should be retired. Meghan is not married to a future King. Harry's not even Duke of York. THat title may go to Prince Louis eventually. So the wedding is being overhyped thought there are royal wedding "junkies" who will undoubtedly be thrilled with Eugenie and Jack's wedding and duly wait to see the bride.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 25, 2018, 11:24:54 pm
^agreed.
It boggles the mind that the Midds have been discrete and are a credit to the crown. Remember that they’re British and have showed their crassness by how they helped Waity by supporting her as she layed around waiting for Wills and  collectively used their connections to royalty by pushing for jobs in entertainment like Pippa did with her book and the NBC job that she thankfully didn’t get, not to mention her brother doing interviews for his failure of a business and of course the parents with Party Pieces. Waity’s shown over and over her disrespect for the crown by showing off her body parts whilst on publi engagements and not caring or preparing for engagements that aren’t red carpet or other fun ones.
Penny Junior’s a joke of a reporter and praising of a woman like Meghan is even more odd than her slagging off Diana. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 26, 2018, 09:32:30 am
Any protection of nutmeg in purely for the self preservation of the Monarchy.   As we keep saying QE will do anything whatever it takes and whatever it costs to do so.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 26, 2018, 09:37:43 am
More pics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEk3v78B3ho


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 26, 2018, 03:26:41 pm
'It's a disaster, really': How Meghan Markle's dad became a headache for the Royals
Rift between Prince Harry’s wife and her father may not have significant impact on perception of Royals
"It's all very sad. It's a disaster, really," said U.K.-based author and royal biographer Penny Junor.
The Markle debacle — as it's been dubbed in some British tabloids — ramped up in earnest with the whole shemozzle over whether the retired TV lighting director would walk his daughter down the aisle for the May 19 wedding at Windsor Castle. In the end, he didn't and Harry's dad, Prince Charles, stepped in.
Each time Markle speaks, it just seems to add to the negative narrative developing around him.
"I have been watching with a certain amount of interest and it does seem like a bad episode ... of Coronation Street, a soap opera," said British public relations expert Mark Borkowski, who has worked with everyone from Michael Jackson to Mikhail Gorbachev.
Meghan's father "will say exactly what he likes and so will the rest of them," said Junor, who sees one of the main problems lying in Meghan's American heritage, and how her family won't have "the sort of inbred respect" for the Royal Family that is held by the British and people in Commonwealth countries.
"They don't have that innate respect, and why should they? From their perspective, this is just a family with a lot of money and a lot of power, soft power, who … they would argue are behaving badly."

And maybe the Royal Family hasn't had its finest hour trying to sort out this mess.
"First of all, Harry should have met her father … before the wedding," said Junor, who knows Harry and speaks highly of him as a man who is kind, thoughtful, genuine and has "won hearts all over the place."
She also sees a lapse in judgment, possibly on the part of Harry and Meghan, in not sending somebody from Kensington Palace to explain to Meghan's father what might happen with the media onslaught he was likely to face in the wake of the engagement.
Beyond that, Junor questions why Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland, was the only member of her family at the wedding.
"We all have relatives that perhaps we are not so keen to see. Being in that position and having a wedding with that sort of profile, I think you just have to bite the bullet and invite your relatives," said Junor.
"Maybe they are terrible, there is no relationship," said Junor, "but it … just opens up the possibility of the media getting in and causing havoc, which is exactly what happened."

PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
Still, for an organization like the House of Windsor, which is so concerned about its public image — and which has had some success boosting that image in recent years — how did everything go so far off the rails?
"I think it's crept up on them," said Borkowski. "Everybody makes mistakes and I think it was a mistake that was made, and it's a very difficult one to recover from. Maybe they tried."
From Borkowski's perspective, the palace needs to keep Meghan's father at "arm's length because anything they're likely to try and do he's going to use for his own income."
Borkowski expects there have been numerous attempts through intermediaries to sort this out, "but really it's between a daughter and her father."  :thumbsup:
For all the tabloid attention the Markle debacle has foisted on the Royal Family, there isn't a sense it is having a significant negative impact on the public perception of Meghan and Harry and the House of Windsor right now.
"It seems like a bad narrative going on, but I think people want to see Harry and Meghan succeed in terms of a relationship," Borkowski said.  :thumbsdown: Very wrong as they want her gone and Harry's image has taken a bad hit. He's seen as a weak, mama's boy fool letting his older slapper run thr roost.
"There's so much negativity around at the moment here, the Brexit and all the other bits and pieces. They want good news stories. They aren't looking for bad news stories. They don't want something else being destroyed by this rather strange character living out of a trailer park on the Mexico-California border, wherever it is."
Junor said there's a "huge amount of affection" for Harry in the U.K. "I think there is a lot of affection for Meghan as well."  ??? Umm, no there isn't.
Still, the Markle debacle has been something of a downer after the joy and happiness that surrounded the couple at the time of their marriage in May.
"There was that magical wedding," said Junor. "They set off with fantastic good will, and this [is] really sad."  :bored:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thomas-markle-rift-royal-family-harry-meghan-1.4793172

To me, Penny Junor dont looks even remotely fond of Meghan (that says all as charles feels about her IMO)

The article that Ingrid Seward wrote to DM appeared that top courtiers (were using Ingrid as mouthpiece) werent amused (including the queen herself) and they werent to blame why meghan had cut her father off of her life. it was and is on her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Byechoc on August 26, 2018, 03:44:48 pm
^I also think the same.... and I believe the Queen is rolling her eyes!

Everyone know that they don't like this type of publicity... so I think that when Harry is in Balmoral Meghan will have a lot o explain....

it incredible how many info is out there with where harry and meghan is...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 26, 2018, 03:49:29 pm
'It's a disaster, really': How Meghan Markle's dad became a headache for the Royals
Rift between Prince Harry’s wife and her father may not have significant impact on perception of Royals
"It's all very sad. It's a disaster, really," said U.K.-based author and royal biographer Penny Junor.
The Markle debacle — as it's been dubbed in some British tabloids — ramped up in earnest with the whole shemozzle over whether the retired TV lighting director would walk his daughter down the aisle for the May 19 wedding at Windsor Castle. In the end, he didn't and Harry's dad, Prince Charles, stepped in.
Each time Markle speaks, it just seems to add to the negative narrative developing around him.
"I have been watching with a certain amount of interest and it does seem like a bad episode ... of Coronation Street, a soap opera," said British public relations expert Mark Borkowski, who has worked with everyone from Michael Jackson to Mikhail Gorbachev.
Meghan's father "will say exactly what he likes and so will the rest of them," said Junor, who sees one of the main problems lying in Meghan's American heritage, and how her family won't have "the sort of inbred respect" for the Royal Family that is held by the British and people in Commonwealth countries.
"They don't have that innate respect, and why should they? From their perspective, this is just a family with a lot of money and a lot of power, soft power, who … they would argue are behaving badly."

And maybe the Royal Family hasn't had its finest hour trying to sort out this mess.
"First of all, Harry should have met her father … before the wedding," said Junor, who knows Harry and speaks highly of him as a man who is kind, thoughtful, genuine and has "won hearts all over the place."
She also sees a lapse in judgment, possibly on the part of Harry and Meghan, in not sending somebody from Kensington Palace to explain to Meghan's father what might happen with the media onslaught he was likely to face in the wake of the engagement.
Beyond that, Junor questions why Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland, was the only member of her family at the wedding.
"We all have relatives that perhaps we are not so keen to see. Being in that position and having a wedding with that sort of profile, I think you just have to bite the bullet and invite your relatives," said Junor.
"Maybe they are terrible, there is no relationship," said Junor, "but it … just opens up the possibility of the media getting in and causing havoc, which is exactly what happened."

PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
Still, for an organization like the House of Windsor, which is so concerned about its public image — and which has had some success boosting that image in recent years — how did everything go so far off the rails?
"I think it's crept up on them," said Borkowski. "Everybody makes mistakes and I think it was a mistake that was made, and it's a very difficult one to recover from. Maybe they tried."
From Borkowski's perspective, the palace needs to keep Meghan's father at "arm's length because anything they're likely to try and do he's going to use for his own income."
Borkowski expects there have been numerous attempts through intermediaries to sort this out, "but really it's between a daughter and her father."  :thumbsup:
For all the tabloid attention the Markle debacle has foisted on the Royal Family, there isn't a sense it is having a significant negative impact on the public perception of Meghan and Harry and the House of Windsor right now.
"It seems like a bad narrative going on, but I think people want to see Harry and Meghan succeed in terms of a relationship," Borkowski said.  :thumbsdown: Very wrong as they want her gone and Harry's image has taken a bad hit. He's seen as a weak, mama's boy fool letting his older slapper run thr roost.
"There's so much negativity around at the moment here, the Brexit and all the other bits and pieces. They want good news stories. They aren't looking for bad news stories. They don't want something else being destroyed by this rather strange character living out of a trailer park on the Mexico-California border, wherever it is."
Junor said there's a "huge amount of affection" for Harry in the U.K. "I think there is a lot of affection for Meghan as well."  ??? Umm, no there isn't.
Still, the Markle debacle has been something of a downer after the joy and happiness that surrounded the couple at the time of their marriage in May.
"There was that magical wedding," said Junor. "They set off with fantastic good will, and this [is] really sad."  :bored:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thomas-markle-rift-royal-family-harry-meghan-1.4793172

To me, Penny Junor dont looks even remotely fond of Meghan (that says all as charles feels about her IMO)

The article that Ingrid Seward wrote to DM appeared that top courtiers (were using Ingrid as mouthpiece) werent amused (including the queen herself) and they werent to blame why meghan had cut her father off of her life. it was and is on her.
i forget add to my post it's interesting she says 'i think' there's affection for meghan.... she dont bashes the markles in any moment... as far as she's concerned (read: charles) harry and particularly meghan made their bed in the way they have handled the whole thing...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 26, 2018, 06:46:42 pm
Thomas Markle begs Meghan and Harry for a 'final chance' as a friend reveals he wants to apologise to the couple and tell his daughter 'I'll always love her'
Thomas Markle is begging for a 'final chance' to make peace with his daughter Meghan and Prince Harry before the door closes forever.
The 74-year-old hopes to apologise to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex during a US west coast visit, rumoured to be imminent, according to a confidante.
Mr Markle is desperate for his final years to be happy with the couple and is said to have no way of contacting the couple after private numbers are no longer in service.  :cookie: Odd isn’t it. She knows how to contact her dad though and hasn’t, he seen this unnecessary drama.
A friend told the Sunday Express: 'He wants to hug his daughter and tell her how very proud he is of her and how much he loves her.
He is praying that one of them reaches out to him to arrange a private meeting when they come to America.  
The royal couple are thought to fly over to her homeland following their first official overseas tour of Austrailia, New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga in October.  
It is rumoured the couple will privately meet with friends who attended their wedding in May as well as attending a charity polo event in Los Angeles or Santa Barbara.
During the visit, Harry and Meghan are expected to spend time with her mother, Doria Ragland, 61, who divorced Mr Markle in 1987.  ??? First Meghan was having a private visit to the US prior to the tour and now she’s having one with Harry after the tour in October.
She is not expected to contact her father or other family members during the trip, which comes after a series of explosive comments by Thomas Markle, who suggested he would be better off dead and compared the royal family to Scientologists.  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6099247/Thomas-Markle-begs-Meghan-Harry-final-chance.html
The lies and stupidity just continues. She’s not getting any sympathy because she’s the only one to call off her family. IMO, Meghan’s in on this scam with her family because she wants the sympathy from the public and the royal family who’ve not ushered a word about this and KP has issued no statement; basically leaving it to Meghan to deal with which she’s trying to push into her mum and the royal family. The dumb thing is is if she did call him and he still went to the media to tell them what was said, she’d garner the sympathy that she wants, but the fact that she hasn’t tells me that she’s working with her family on this and wants money to get out of this situation now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 26, 2018, 08:34:18 pm
I am so glad that whatever PR spin is trying Megsy - daddy is one upping her with the truth. Best trashy reality show ever.  One of them looks like white trash to misleadbthe gullible ones as to 'why Megan is ashamed of her own father - same one who put her through private schools and  vacarions abroad'  but it's not him that's trash. Best part is that the truth is out there for everyone to see while the whole situation is embrarrasing for the entire brf. Good job Harry. Good job. :laundry:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 26, 2018, 09:33:39 pm
'It's a disaster, really': How Meghan Markle's dad became a headache for the Royals
Rift between Prince Harry’s wife and her father may not have significant impact on perception of Royals
"It's all very sad. It's a disaster, really," said U.K.-based author and royal biographer Penny Junor.
The Markle debacle — as it's been dubbed in some British tabloids — ramped up in earnest with the whole shemozzle over whether the retired TV lighting director would walk his daughter down the aisle for the May 19 wedding at Windsor Castle. In the end, he didn't and Harry's dad, Prince Charles, stepped in.
Each time Markle speaks, it just seems to add to the negative narrative developing around him.
"I have been watching with a certain amount of interest and it does seem like a bad episode ... of Coronation Street, a soap opera," said British public relations expert Mark Borkowski, who has worked with everyone from Michael Jackson to Mikhail Gorbachev.
Meghan's father "will say exactly what he likes and so will the rest of them," said Junor, who sees one of the main problems lying in Meghan's American heritage, and how her family won't have "the sort of inbred respect" for the Royal Family that is held by the British and people in Commonwealth countries.
"They don't have that innate respect, and why should they? From their perspective, this is just a family with a lot of money and a lot of power, soft power, who … they would argue are behaving badly."

And maybe the Royal Family hasn't had its finest hour trying to sort out this mess.
"First of all, Harry should have met her father … before the wedding," said Junor, who knows Harry and speaks highly of him as a man who is kind, thoughtful, genuine and has "won hearts all over the place."
She also sees a lapse in judgment, possibly on the part of Harry and Meghan, in not sending somebody from Kensington Palace to explain to Meghan's father what might happen with the media onslaught he was likely to face in the wake of the engagement.
Beyond that, Junor questions why Meghan's mother, Doria Ragland, was the only member of her family at the wedding.
"We all have relatives that perhaps we are not so keen to see. Being in that position and having a wedding with that sort of profile, I think you just have to bite the bullet and invite your relatives," said Junor.
"Maybe they are terrible, there is no relationship," said Junor, "but it … just opens up the possibility of the media getting in and causing havoc, which is exactly what happened."

PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
PR expert Borkowski would have "got well ahead of this and dealt with it right at … the outset" during the wedding preparations and brought Markle into the royal camp.
"Clearly they're in a very difficult situation," Borkowski said. "They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. He's proving to be a man who is being paid regularly by some of these … [media] agencies in America. They're feeding him and he is performing like some sort of dancing pony by keeping this narrative going."
Still, for an organization like the House of Windsor, which is so concerned about its public image — and which has had some success boosting that image in recent years — how did everything go so far off the rails?
"I think it's crept up on them," said Borkowski. "Everybody makes mistakes and I think it was a mistake that was made, and it's a very difficult one to recover from. Maybe they tried."
From Borkowski's perspective, the palace needs to keep Meghan's father at "arm's length because anything they're likely to try and do he's going to use for his own income."
Borkowski expects there have been numerous attempts through intermediaries to sort this out, "but really it's between a daughter and her father."  :thumbsup:
For all the tabloid attention the Markle debacle has foisted on the Royal Family, there isn't a sense it is having a significant negative impact on the public perception of Meghan and Harry and the House of Windsor right now.
"It seems like a bad narrative going on, but I think people want to see Harry and Meghan succeed in terms of a relationship," Borkowski said.  :thumbsdown: Very wrong as they want her gone and Harry's image has taken a bad hit. He's seen as a weak, mama's boy fool letting his older slapper run thr roost.
"There's so much negativity around at the moment here, the Brexit and all the other bits and pieces. They want good news stories. They aren't looking for bad news stories. They don't want something else being destroyed by this rather strange character living out of a trailer park on the Mexico-California border, wherever it is."
Junor said there's a "huge amount of affection" for Harry in the U.K. "I think there is a lot of affection for Meghan as well."  ??? Umm, no there isn't.
Still, the Markle debacle has been something of a downer after the joy and happiness that surrounded the couple at the time of their marriage in May.
"There was that magical wedding," said Junor. "They set off with fantastic good will, and this [is] really sad."  :bored:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/thomas-markle-rift-royal-family-harry-meghan-1.4793172

To me, Penny Junor dont looks even remotely fond of Meghan (that says all as charles feels about her IMO)

The article that Ingrid Seward wrote to DM appeared that top courtiers (were using Ingrid as mouthpiece) werent amused (including the queen herself) and they werent to blame why meghan had cut her father off of her life. it was and is on her.

Junor is Charles' and Camilla's mouthpiece. Until C and C change their minds or start having their lackeys leak stories, Junor will write fawning stories about Meghan. FOr one reason or another it suits Charles' purpose to be "kind" to Meghan and if Junor attacks Meghan in print or writes poison pen, the wind has changed and Charles will have Junor turn on her. This is a pattern with Junor. I think Junor has a crush on Charles and she even said she had a soft spot for him. She would follow CHarles directions. ANd apparently he has not turned on Meghan. Maybe he is worried about his own image (as per always).

It remains to be seen if Tom is cut off for life.  As I said Tom and Meghan both have responsibility for this mess. It takes two and his going to the media was more or less a declaration of war. He may be appeased down the road as may Meghan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 26, 2018, 10:46:51 pm
^sorry i dont get your post... where is penny junor fawning about meghan? the way she's using her words about meghan says all... according to her, meghan is no victim... her quotes in article above dont mention charles at all... here she's doing nothing for his image/pr and in fact she is NOT helping meghan's image AT ALL


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 26, 2018, 10:50:16 pm
I watched the ABC special, and yes, Junor was praising Meghan and I call it fawning. She has not yet done the demolition job on Meghan as a person she considers Charles' "enemy.". Whether she does a number on Meghan down the road is subject to speculation. The ABC special did not even feature TOm's and Sam's appearances. It was carefully spun. The last half hour was an ode to Meghan. I go by what I saw and read. ANd I stand by my opinion. Why would Junor mention Charles? SHe has a history of toadying to him. If he likes Meghan she would not dare bash her. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 26, 2018, 10:52:19 pm
That was exactly what I was about to write before it timed out. There will be no turning from fawning to shooting daggers at C's command. She's already pointing fingers at the Mooches, both of them and leaves a very wide open door into Megan's true colors. C does not like what H married into, UK doesn't like what they see, HM rolls her eyes. I hope H is happy that in less than a year - from the engagement in Nov till now, he managed to get people to get so fed up with the new DoLittles that republic is getting echoed louder and louder.... something that Kate with 3 kids could not achieve in 15+ years


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on August 26, 2018, 10:56:29 pm
I watched the ABC special, and yes, Junor was praising Meghan and I call it fawning. She has not yet done the demolition job on Meghan as a person she considers Charles' "enemy.". Whether she does a number on Meghan down the road is subject to speculation. The ABC special did not even feature TOm's and Sam's appearances. It was carefully spun. The last half hour was an ode to Meghan. I go by what I saw and read. ANd I stand by my opinion. Why would Junor mention Charles? SHe has a history of toadying to him. If he likes Meghan she would not dare bash her.  
In doc she said 'I THINK there is a lot of affection for Meghan as well'... it's not fawining in my book...
 in this special they talked about the Markle family debacle? why in this quotes dont shows any support... the fact as penny junor as ingrid seward arent bashing the markles publicly says VOLUMES to me... about charles (& the queen) thoughts

in this quotes and in the articles that junor wrote about meghan and harry she always appeared me cynical than supportive...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 26, 2018, 11:01:30 pm
Quite honestly the ABC special seemed orchestrated as PR/damage control for Harry and Meghan. I was quite astonished at how Meghan and Harry were made to look like saints. The DM says the QUeen "rolls her eyes." I never saw the woman roll her eyes but she does avoid controversy and problems for as long as she can until it becomes a crisis. Then she acts on things and gets "stern" with the person who displeased her. I read her biographies and the authorized one of her mother and this is a pattern with mother and daughter. Charles is in no position to point fingers and he did get a "bounce" in popularity from the media for his "saving" the day and escorting Doria and Meghan. People Magazine royal editor who produced the special   is a Charles and Camilla person and I was surprised at the "love letter" to Meghan in the last 1/2 hour. I was also thinking well MEghan must be in favor now if Junor is in on the praise. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

I read all of Penny's vitriol and I stand by my post that to me it was fawning. Especially after reading how vicious Junor can write.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 27, 2018, 12:41:03 am
^ Maybe Meghan is karma coming back to bite Charles for controlling the narrative with fake news for so many years.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 27, 2018, 02:55:58 pm
@ Sandy let's face it you are very biased in favor of Megan on the other hand I am biased I'm biased against her so I suppose it all evens out. Who knows what penny really thinks she gets paid to write this stuff.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 27, 2018, 03:08:01 pm
I already addressed this further up. Let's stay with the topic please.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 27, 2018, 03:20:48 pm
I am staying on the topic. Everything you write about Megan seems to be very biased in favor of her including your last post about the special. I didn't watch it so I really don't know how the twist was but in reading all of this you have a positive twist and everyone else has a negative one. That's all I have to say.  I don't need to elaborate anymore. you are entitled to your opinion of course.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 27, 2018, 03:27:26 pm


The Special had positive spin about Meghan.  The family rift was not mentioned. Basically I had critical things to say about the special on other threads. I am stating a fact. It could be on Youtube someday so you can watch it online.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 27, 2018, 03:45:44 pm
I must say - I missed the special but even if I had the chance to watch it I'd still do something else. I believe you, sandy, when you say that the special is very flattering to Meg. And maybe at the time of the filming PC wanted to give a glowing review to Meg. However, what happened in the last week or two - how Megan treats her own father might have made him not like her even publicly
 In the article we all read she's directly accusing M and H for this situation. IMO C dislikes M, maybe strongly, and it's starting to show.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 27, 2018, 03:55:38 pm
Charles has to tread carefully though. IMO. He did get a "bounce" in popularity "saving" (!) the day by escorting Meghan and Doria.

Junor's articles are the barometer of how Charles feels. They should be monitored.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 27, 2018, 04:02:01 pm
I need to read these articles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 27, 2018, 04:08:12 pm
I agree. Junor tells us what Charles thinks, Seward tells us what HM thinks.

About him walking MEgan down the isle - I think Megan wanted to originally have her mom walk her, then she demanded to do it all on her own but C stepped in and decided to not allow a complete mockery of the CoE. There was a lot of it: mom with the dreadlocks, all black choir, a super weird sermon by the probably the only black episcopal priest in all of US, whom M didn't know existed until she searched for him .... but with all of this display of her roots - no one from both her sides of the family was invited. See, weddings are a family and friends type of event. There were no family on this occasion. One swallow does not make a spring. IMO C was doing damage control as much as was possible given the demands of M.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 27, 2018, 04:40:24 pm
I don't judge her for her family history, but I do judge on how she has treated her father who did so much for her. As for Meg making demands, I loathe how she brings nothing to the table but trouble, but has the GALL to make demands of the BRF.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 27, 2018, 05:22:22 pm
It never ever occurred to her to be generous and kind to her family.  They were, in her mind, an inconvenient presence that would tarnish her newly minted life. 

Yeah, ok, people would have laughed and the media would have had a go at her family but I guarantee you, that people would have felt sympathy for her and, more importantly, admired her for being open, caring and willing to be vulnerable.  She missed that in her private Diana Study.  It's why the world loved that woman.

What she missed completely is what you said, KF^.  That people would not have judged her on her family's appearance nor antics but they will judge and judge harshly on her seemingly selfish and insincere behavior. 

It has told me everything I need to know about this shallow woman.  Surface matters, the human touch does not.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 27, 2018, 06:12:53 pm
^ Dead on, Yooper.  The one thing I find the most touching aspect of Diana’s wedding was her elderly sick Father walking her down the aisle.  Knowing how sick he’d been, that sight was truly touching.

That’s the bit MeAgainandAgain forgot.  bignono


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on August 27, 2018, 06:16:39 pm
^ I do believe Murky is like KM and Council Carol(e) trying to be someone she isn't. It seems Murky and the Meddletons are trying to rewrite their genealogical history and create new family trees for themselves claiming they are actually bluebloofs didn't you know it? Just be honest. You are both commoners with common ancestry just like most other people on planet Earth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on August 27, 2018, 06:21:36 pm
^True, but most of us are proud of our roots, and if not, we get on with it. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 27, 2018, 07:29:51 pm
She is blatantly so awful to people in her life and what surprises me is how many including Harry seem to overlook it. Agreed many do not overlook it, but I think the press does to sell print or clicks. We will see how it proceeds in the future. One thing narcs do do and I know from my mother who is one, is that when they perceived to be crossed, they let the person have it. So time is just biding until she lets Harry have it. Because he will slip up with her in time. And yes people would have supported her in loving her family even if they are trashy. Not all of them are as it turns out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 27, 2018, 07:58:27 pm
Harry overlooks it because he's viewing life through the lenses of a romantic comedy; he has no clue that Meg isn't an innocent free-spirited unworldly ingenue and his family aren't a bunch of eccentric cranks. His friends are less naive and see her for the trouble she is (same way they accurately viewed Kate) and clearly see that in the real world, someone coming from a seedier way of life isn't some perfect innocent. Meg might be a nice enough person, but she has MAJOR unaddressed issues.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 27, 2018, 08:09:56 pm
^ Nice until not. I agree with lesken - it's only a matter of time until Harry wakes up in a nightmare of constant demands and terror. She's already shown her MO and ... he's next.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 29, 2018, 07:47:47 am
Duchess Meghan Is ‘Still Anxious’ About Her Father Thomas Markle: ‘She’s Wondering If This Will Go on

Duchess Meghan still worries about what her father, Thomas Markle, might do — or say — next.

Everything We Know About Meghan Markle's Family
“She is still anxious wondering if this will go on forever,” a source tells Us Weekly exclusively. “She’s worrying about when it will stop, or if it even will.”

Ever since Thomas, 74, got caught staging photos with the paparazzi ahead of Meghan and Prince Harry’s May nuptials, the former lightning director has made numerous comments bashing the British royal family, including calling his 37-year-old daughter’s relatives “cult-like” and “like Scientologists or the Stepford family” earlier this month. Thomas, who did not attend the royal wedding, also claimed in July that Meghan looked “terrified” and had a “pained smile”
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markle-has-still-anxious-over-her-father-thomas-markle/


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 29, 2018, 12:43:28 pm
^it’ll keep going on as she’s in on it, IMO, to keep her name in the press and try to garner sympathy. Odd that now her tv dad, who wasn’t st the celebrity/pr wedding, is getting into this drama. Why now when this nonsense has been going on for a while? Is he using her like all the others, to promote his latest project?
Meghan’s Screen Dad Wendell Pierce Slams Thomas Markle
“If you care about Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, then that should be the first and foremost in your mind before you say anything,” he tells the Daily Telegraph. “If you love your daughter, just love your daughter. It’s not for public consumption.”
Pierce said of Markle’s wedding to Harry: “I watched it at home.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thedailybeast.com/meghan-markles-screen-dad-wendell-pierce-slams-thomas-markle
 :oooh:  she won’t call for fear of privacy and Thomas can’t call because he doesn’t have her new number after the one he was given got disconnected. So the dreck continues.

Meghan’s brother begs Queen to help heal split with Dad
But Meghan’s brother Thomas Markle Jr claims he has written to the Queen calling on her to intervene and help repair the relationship.
He wrote: “I urge you to convince Meg to bring her father over to the Palace for him to meet the Royal Family and spend time with him.
He added: “My father deserves to be treated like royalty, like he treated Meghan her whole life.”  :tehe:
Meghan’s father says he has no way of leaving messages for his daughter – two private numbers given by Kensington Palace are no longer in service.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1009829/meghan-brother-begs-queen-to-help-heal-split-with-dad


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 29, 2018, 01:49:38 pm
Hmmm. Junior says his father should be treated like "royalty." It makes me think that the clan expected royal treatment and homes in KP and a life of leisure. 




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 29, 2018, 02:02:09 pm
^I doubt it.  Respect?  Yes.  Royalty?  No.  He's not wired that way.  If he was, he'd be toadying and sucking up to these people which he most definitely is not.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 29, 2018, 02:03:22 pm
Well good old Willie gave money to the meds so they could buy a bigger mansion so I suppose the merkel's expect some sort of similar treatment.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 29, 2018, 02:03:52 pm
No he speaks freely and of course it does not hurt that he's not a British citizen and feels less of a constraint. I just wonder what the expectations for the family is. And what happened that week before the wedding. It was constant shifting headlines that week. Something worse must have happened then.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 29, 2018, 02:13:53 pm
 who knows what really happened except that I kind of never thought he'd never show up because I think it would have caused some sort of trouble with how his life is. He's living in Mexico for a reason. In any event he may not be looking for money or to be taken care of but Doria certainly is going to go live there and be taken care of.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 29, 2018, 02:34:06 pm
I somehow doubt Doria will live in a royal residence except for short visits. She may be gifted a nice home there but it's all subject to speculation


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 29, 2018, 02:43:47 pm
^^I agree.  Doria appears to be playing the Long Con and may be usurping Ma Midds as the most ambitious and crafty mother-in-law.  I'd watch her.

With Tom, it's what you see is what you get.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 29, 2018, 03:04:46 pm
My dictation is screwy as usual but in my upper post I meant to say I am not surprised that Thomas did not show up to the wedding because I think he's in some sort of trouble and that's why he's in Mexico. And I say that as a law enforcement person because there's something very suspicious about the whole thing. And I didn't think doreah would actually move in Kensington Palace they're going to buy her a place just like Willy help the meds.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on August 29, 2018, 03:37:29 pm
I don't think Doria is going anywhere.  Too risky for her criminal record to be made public.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on August 29, 2018, 04:18:37 pm
^^ Or a one way ticket back home for M. Seems most feasible..


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on August 29, 2018, 04:31:56 pm
^

Doria hoped her (expunged) criminal record would stay under the radar which of course it didn’t.  

With Thomas it was the usual PR deliberately confusing MO.  They knew he wouldn’t be coming because of his relationship/non relationship with MM.  They didn’t want too much negativity about MM before the wedding but as mentioned above US citizens don’t have the same constraints as UK, hence the family blabbing.  Books revealing catastrophic (and soon to be published) events are therefore able to be published abroad.  Charles was able to score half a Brownie point by stepping in at the last minute too!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on August 30, 2018, 02:39:26 am
I have a strong feeling the Brits will go absolutely bananas if Doria sets up shop in the UK. There's already a lot of talk about MM's visa situation. I believe Doria making that move would open up a huge can of worms.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 30, 2018, 02:47:26 am
Good. One less person in an overcrowded LA. If she comes back from Britain, maybe she can go back to her home state.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on August 30, 2018, 03:42:40 am
@lesken If Thomas Sr. was in trouble and or hiding something, people now know who and where he is, so wouldn't it be easy to get to him? The movie Sicario comes to mind.

IMO Thomas Sr. is living in Mexico because it's very expensive to live in LA and San Diego. I know because I live in San Diego and if you want to rent a studio or one bedroom apartment it'll cost you $1,000, no way could Thomas Sr. afford that because he is not working full-time and earning $20 an hour to make that rent. Every day the local news channels talk about how there isn't any affordable housing in San Diego. I have a cousin that is struggling to live on her own in Compton, LA and she is a Licensed Vocational Nurse.

My brother lives in Mexico, paying $100 rent in some trailer and crosses the border every day to work over here (San Diego). My mother and I gave my brother money to buy the passport (because it's the new law that you need a passport now to cross back and forth from Mex to the U.S.) so that he can live over there.

Most likely Thomas Sr. has a passport because he went to LA to give Doria a flower pot and so he was prepared to fly to London for his daughter's wedding, but he needed a "heart procedure."  ;)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 30, 2018, 04:29:17 am
You are right in the expenses of big cities in CA. But in spite of that many people still move and stay here and survive. There is not an exodus to Mexico and believe me many criminals that are threatened with deportation fight tooth and nails to stay here even though they don't have a lot of money. So it's true that Mexico is easier to live in financial wise but I don't think that's the only reason he's there. He must have some sort of pension from all the work he did. I've read that he has financial problems but I don't know if that's true. The whole thing seems a little bit weird. It is true now people know where he is but I think he has more protection there for some reason whether people know he's there or not. Anyways it's just all speculation. My gut tells me there's something more under the surface and I'm usually not wrong about those things. But I could be.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 30, 2018, 02:48:55 pm
^^Youre right.  After a certain age or reduced retirement income and/or, perhaps an early investment in Baja, people move to Ensenada or Rosarito and commute back and forth all the time.  And, you may be a little generous about the $1k studio or one-bedroom price tag.  Unless you're going way inland.  I live, part-time now, in San Diego after living there for two decades and the housing prices are through the roof.  As are the taxes.

Tom isn't doing anything that unusual is the point.  Most families in SD have two earning people in them or are up to their ears in debt.  Or, super wealthy, of course.

The home I rented even 10 yrs ago was $3k/month.  It is now $9k.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 30, 2018, 03:04:23 pm
 It's even worse in LA well maybe you guys are right about Thomas.
 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on August 31, 2018, 01:27:40 am
He's managed to achieve nothing of note with her around because she's the focus of the press becuse she's so inappropriate as she undermines Harry at every turn. What he attends engagements with her aren't highlighted such as the Hamilton event.  This drama is basic bs and wouldn't be going on if Harry was introduced to him and asked for his trashy daughter's hand in marriage or if he actually had a real romance with her.  :bored:
https://vimeo.com/287518885


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on August 31, 2018, 03:41:46 am
At this juncture, I hope her family and past come roaring down on her and tear her to shreds.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on August 31, 2018, 02:30:30 pm
I am tired of all this and I hope they all make up and keep quiet. There are limits. IMO


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on August 31, 2018, 02:37:28 pm
Not with the Markles.. limits don't apply


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 04, 2018, 10:58:35 pm
DM commenter said that Thomas Markle’s been missing from his home for nearly 3 weeks now. The comments in the article about her attending the Well Child awards. I did see a breaking news item on one of the blogs. Nothing else was reported, so who knows if it’s true.  :dontknow: It’ll get Meghan over to the States as it’ll look bad if she stayed in London if he’s really missing.  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 05, 2018, 12:41:54 am
I doubt he's missing. It took a long time for reporters to find his home a few months ago.. He could have a retreat to go to off the grid. That's the way he operates.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 05, 2018, 12:44:03 am
https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/177530983666/not-verified-this-just-in-something-is-wrong-with
^makes sense.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 05, 2018, 12:45:35 am
I doubt he's in any danger. His "disappearing" does give him attention. I think he goes off the grid every now and then. This is the time. IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 05, 2018, 02:09:36 am
^ A sick and old man should be monitored not left off the grid. His ungrateful daughter should not be dolling herself up to meet sick children for photo opp while not calling her dad to see if he's missing or alive or ok or on a dead bed.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 05, 2018, 02:15:09 am
People beat up the old guy if he talks or keeps quiet.  Must be an intolerable situation. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 05, 2018, 02:00:03 pm
^ A sick and old man should be monitored not left off the grid. His ungrateful daughter should not be dolling herself up to meet sick children for photo opp while not calling her dad to see if he's missing or alive or ok or on a dead bed.

Is he sick? Is he on meds? Nothing is known. I don't think he's missing. And I think he is very stubborn and wants to do as he pleases and does not want people telling him what to do. There are men like that and I think he is one of them. I think he has a very strong will and it shows he does as he pleases when he was eating greasy chicken after he had the alleged heart procedure. Maybe he does not trust doctors.

Maybe she did call? She does not report her every move regarding her family.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 05, 2018, 03:41:35 pm
He's not a very interesting person I don't know why anybody cares he's going to do what he wants he's a free person and he's not married to the Royal Family


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 05, 2018, 03:57:50 pm
I think this is a classic case of the BRF overreaching themselves; they forget that none of Meg's family owe the BRF (or Meg for that matter) silence or discretion or anything at all. All of them are American citizens and I am certain that the BRF should just suck it up and get on with life instead of trying to erase Meg's past.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 05, 2018, 04:07:36 pm
He looks sick and with the McDonalds diet I suppose his health is not the best. I find him fascinating and him not blabbing to the press is disappointing. He shows a lot more family values and morale than his daughter the chicken legs.

^^^ I do agree. He seems like the type of person that will do whatever he wants whenever he wants and the way he wants it... pretty much like Megan. Maybe it's not the mom that she takes after but the dad.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 05, 2018, 04:48:43 pm
Meghan Markle’s mother reveals where Duchess gets her feminist beliefs in graphic t-shirt

MEGHAN MARKLE’s mother Doria Ragland currently resides in LA. She was spotted walking her dogs in the US city, wearing a feminist t-shirt.

Doria was seen wearing an official women’s march t-shirt.

The 2017 Women’s March took place on 21 and 22 January last year.

The enormous movement encouraged women and female allies from across the world to protest.

The topics the protests covered included reproductive rights and workers’ rights - however, many of the marches were also aimed at Donald Trump.

It is not known whether Doria attended the march, but her daughter has been vocal about her feminist politics in the past.

Meghan’s webpage on the royal site quotes the actress at the UN on International Women's Day 2015, when she said: “I am proud to be a woman and a feminist.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1013388/meghan-markle-mother-mum-news-latest-doria-ragland-pictures


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 05, 2018, 04:54:47 pm
^ If Doria is moving to London, are we looking at two more innocent souls dumped because they are no longer convenient  ???


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 05, 2018, 05:15:31 pm
^I think Doria is a dog walker, isn't she?  It's stuck in my 'brain' this morning anyhow.  Big money in that, btw.  People quit their jobs to get a good gig like this, if it's regular.  And it's all cash.  The IRS is never informed anyway.  Unless you're in the public eye.  You know, like here.   :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 05, 2018, 05:45:06 pm
Just like her tacky daughter merchandising stuff. I wonder how much she got paid for promoting this woman’s march.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/c5f562ae6865faaee0336494d9da3399/tumblr_pelbjdz2pq1ud2swf_540.jpg
Source: https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on September 05, 2018, 07:27:56 pm
^Nice catch.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 05, 2018, 07:38:42 pm
Dog walking, marching.. IRS is watching.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on September 05, 2018, 07:41:22 pm
^Well, we know where MM learned how to hustle.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 07, 2018, 12:17:39 pm
Thomas Markle buys takeaway dinner-for-one in Mexico, as Meghan's onscreen father chastises him for speaking about her in public
Thomas Markle was spotted out and about near his Mexican home on Thursday, where he made a quick stop at a local fish shack for some takeout food.
He hopes to apologise to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex during a US west coast visit, rumoured to be imminent, according to a confidante.  :bored:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6141933/Thomas-Markle-buys-dinner-Mexico.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 07, 2018, 01:20:52 pm
Fish shack? I hope the food is not greasy. He may still not be eating a healthy diet.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 07, 2018, 01:59:53 pm
Thomas Markle buys takeaway dinner-for-one in Mexico, as Meghan's onscreen father chastises him for speaking about her in public
Thomas Markle was spotted out and about near his Mexican home on Thursday, where he made a quick stop at a local fish shack for some takeout food.
He hopes to apologise to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex during a US west coast visit, rumoured to be imminent, according to a confidante.  :bored:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6141933/Thomas-Markle-buys-dinner-Mexico.html

He shouldn't have to apologize for anything; he has no business apologizing for calling her out on her BS behavior. Second, SHE snubbed HIM when it came to choosing who would walk her down the aisle on her big day. No way was he so bad off that he wouldn't be able to make that trip, it would have meant the world to him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 07, 2018, 02:37:59 pm
If both apologize and they make peace. That would be a real breakthrough.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 07, 2018, 03:00:51 pm
There's a lot of amends thwt has to go around, not just apologies. Weddings are a family affair and parents and family members deserve to be there simply because if it weren't for them Megan wouldn't be there.

Funny how Megan's PR is creating a fake competition for between her real dad and her fake dad ... both conorting for the title better dad of her royal highness the duchess of self-delusions. I'm also curious if she gets paid to promote Suits.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 07, 2018, 03:05:30 pm
I doubt she'd be allowed to accept pay for promoting Suits after all the difficulties of royals earning money "outside" the Firm.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 08, 2018, 01:59:15 am
Omid Scobie
‏@scobie
Omid Scobie Retweeted Carolyn Durand
ICMI: Sources confirm to @ABC @GMA that Duchess Meghan's mom Doria Ragland visited Prince Harry and her daughter for an extended stay at their Oxfordshire home this summer.
Doria is said to enjoy a close relationship with Harry and continues to be a pillar of strength for Meghan.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 08, 2018, 02:12:07 am
OK and... she may move in there and keep it for them while they are not there


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 08, 2018, 02:20:47 am
yup i can see it happening


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 08, 2018, 04:37:27 pm
John Legend reveals Kanye West IS serious about running for President after being inspired by Donald Trump... and also expresses sympathy for Meghan Markle in candid interview
Meanwhile, in his interview with The Sun, John also discussed having Meghan Markle and her family situation.
'I think everybody’s got family members that they wish would keep quiet. Particularly if you come from a pretty humble background, you don’t grow up expecting to be famous and to be held accountable for every family member that you have,' he explained.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6145807/John-Legend-reveals-Kanye-West-running-President-candid-interview.html
 :bored:   


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 08, 2018, 04:51:54 pm
Meg didn't grow up humble and she certainly expected to become famous when she started working in that industry. She went to a good Catholic school and she did indeed work like a dervish to become famous; she had a great life and she wasn't some shrinking flower, certainly not at a young age (demanding to be the center of attention at someone else's birthday party) and she was eager for the lifestyle that she wanted to enjoy and flaunt and she went after Harry like a heat seeking missile.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 08, 2018, 05:14:46 pm
Solid middle class is what Meghan Markle comes from. if she were upper-middle she would have gone to Marlborough or Marymount girl's school. There's nothing humble about her upbringing and being the only child of her parents she was probably very spoiled. Mr. Markle make good money while he worked.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 09, 2018, 12:00:35 am
Meghan Markle's mother Doria has made secret visits to the UK to comfort her daughter amid damaging and erratic outbursts from her father
Meghan Markle’s mother Doria is reported to have made secret visits to the UK to comfort her daughter in the wake of her father’s damaging outbursts.
Ms Ragland, who lives in Los Angeles, made the trips after repeated criticism from Thomas Markle that he had been ‘cut off’ by his daughter.
The Mail on Sunday understands that on one occasion – in July – the social worker stayed with Harry and Meghan at their Oxfordshire cottage.
A source said: ‘The visit was totally under the radar… Doria supported Meghan throughout a lot of the ordeal with Thomas.’
Harry and Meghan have spent much of the summer at their ‘safe haven’ house on the Great Tew Estate.
The 74-year-old father to the Duchess of Sussex sensationally revealed how he had hung up on Prince Harry during a heated call ahead of the couple's wedding on May 19, leading the Duchess to want 'time off' from their relationship.
It was the latest in a series of very public outbursts from Thomas Markle, this one being the final straw for the Duchess of Sussex.  
Sources claim that although Meghan, 37, does want to maintain a relationship with her father she feels they need time apart.
Speaking to The Sun a US source said: 'Meghan loves Thomas and does want to maintain a relationship with him in the long run.  
'But at the moment she feels he needs and bit of space. She also wants to take a bit of time out.'
Adding that the newly minted Duchess wants to focus on settling into royal life she has reportedly admitted there is no 'quick fix' for her relationship with her father.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6147023/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-secret-visits-UK-comfort-daughter.html
 :bored:  
When was that exactly? Meghan supposedly was in Italy with the Clooney’s, with Charles in Scotland, in Toronto, etc, with Harry and without Harry.
Comment:
fussgravy, Thurberville, U.S. Virgin Islands, 5 minutes ago
Harry and Meghan need a "safe house" to go to because her father made a few comments about her? What a snowflake. She has probably never dealt with any real adversity or pain in her life.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 09, 2018, 01:17:09 am
I encourage posters to file press complaints - they are censoring comments that are negative towards Markle and or from non-Americans.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2018, 03:31:50 am
Meghan Markle's mother Doria has made secret visits to the UK to comfort her daughter amid damaging and erratic outbursts from her father
Meghan Markle’s mother Doria is reported to have made secret visits to the UK to comfort her daughter in the wake of her father’s damaging outbursts.
Ms Ragland, who lives in Los Angeles, made the trips after repeated criticism from Thomas Markle that he had been ‘cut off’ by his daughter.
The Mail on Sunday understands that on one occasion – in July – the social worker stayed with Harry and Meghan at their Oxfordshire cottage.
A source said: ‘The visit was totally under the radar… Doria supported Meghan throughout a lot of the ordeal with Thomas.’
Harry and Meghan have spent much of the summer at their ‘safe haven’ house on the Great Tew Estate.
The 74-year-old father to the Duchess of Sussex sensationally revealed how he had hung up on Prince Harry during a heated call ahead of the couple's wedding on May 19, leading the Duchess to want 'time off' from their relationship.
It was the latest in a series of very public outbursts from Thomas Markle, this one being the final straw for the Duchess of Sussex.  
Sources claim that although Meghan, 37, does want to maintain a relationship with her father she feels they need time apart.
Speaking to The Sun a US source said: 'Meghan loves Thomas and does want to maintain a relationship with him in the long run.  
'But at the moment she feels he needs and bit of space. She also wants to take a bit of time out.'
Adding that the newly minted Duchess wants to focus on settling into royal life she has reportedly admitted there is no 'quick fix' for her relationship with her father.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6147023/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-secret-visits-UK-comfort-daughter.html
 :bored:  
When was that exactly? Meghan supposedly was in Italy with the Clooney’s, with Charles in Scotland, in Toronto, etc, with Harry and without Harry.
Comment:
fussgravy, Thurberville, U.S. Virgin Islands, 5 minutes ago
Harry and Meghan need a "safe house" to go to because her father made a few comments about her? What a snowflake. She has probably never dealt with any real adversity or pain in her life.

I find it intriguing that Windsor men find women who are so panicky and paranoid and weak; they put up a front of being strong women, then they end up becoming emotionally and psychologically fragile flakes.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 09, 2018, 06:15:45 am
If you believe the story. If she is in panic it is because she is afraid he is going  to squeal something.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2018, 06:43:58 am
I'll never understand this concentrated, intense campaign against a man who gave her life and then gave her a great life that laid out a platform for her to run on to success. He paid for her schooling, paid for trips, and then ended up helping her with her career and for some reason she is kicking him so hard in the face.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on September 09, 2018, 07:03:24 am
^His existence reminds her of the truth about herself and the fraudulent narrative she's been broadcasting for a number of years. This is why she attacks him. She is the real-life Sarah Jane from Imitation of Life.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 09, 2018, 01:13:56 pm
And who would be sorry and crying when the parent dies? Sarah-Jane's bellyaching did get to be a little too much - always so angry and self-centred.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 09, 2018, 01:19:30 pm
Exactly and Harry should start waking up because if she can be so vicious and persistent in finding new ways to blame her dad while panicky about what he can spill about her can you imagine what's coming for Harry who is not even related by blood to her... Especially if he tries to takd away Her HRH...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2018, 03:08:20 pm
And who would be sorry and crying when the parent dies? Sarah-Jane's bellyaching did get to be a little too much - always so angry and self-centred.

I think that deep down, she resents how she believes that he could have done more to help her along in Hollywood; I don't think that she understands the real nature of the business she was in, that it takes more than a good education, more than UN humanitarian work, and more than even just talent/constant PR. It takes a lot of risk and takes a lot of initiative and takes so much more than just plain luck.

With the changing nature of film and how the rest of the planet is changing in everything, Meg's entire method of getting work, getting roles is outdated and really not that filled with effort. She wasn't entitled to success and she certainly was not entitled to roles/a break just because she wanted it. She could have gotten in some other way, but instead thought that since her family adored her, she had the right to be adored and feted and given opportunities to turn down.

It didn't go that way and she ended up basically making the mistake of taking a passive route, not building any kind of portfolio of work on her own, and she apparently didn't realize that at her age, Hollywood wouldn't come knocking to present the prime roles.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 09, 2018, 04:52:50 pm
I find it intriguing that Windsor men find women who are so panicky and paranoid and weak; they put up a front of being strong women, then they end up becoming emotionally and psychologically fragile flakes.
Excellent point. It's beyond pathetic now.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 09, 2018, 05:13:13 pm
Timed out.

I find it intriguing that Windsor men find women who are so panicky and paranoid and weak; they put up a front of being strong women, then they end up becoming emotionally and psychologically fragile flakes.
Excellent point. It's beyond pathetic now. Her and Waity have brought nothing but problems and not the strength and understandng of the public position and whatt entails regarding the media as they sold themselves to be.
^His existence reminds her of the truth about herself and the fraudulent narrative she's been broadcasting for a number of years. This is why she attacks him.   
Exactly. Bad for her though is that other people who she's used and walked over know what she's about and will talk anyway. The comments on the DM and other n social media have been soilling the beens. :thumbsup:

Meghan Markle's mother sets tongues wagging 'by taking baby care classes in US'
Doria Ragland, the mother of the Duchess of Sussex, has been taking baby-care classes near her home in California.
Meghan Markle's mother has been learning vital nannying skills, such as first aid from specialist coaches in LA, where she lives.   
It comes amid claims the 62-year-old is planning to cross the Atlantic and move near the royal couple to be closer to her daughter, and any future grandchlidren.
The Ohio-born former social worker is reportedly taking classes as the Cradle Company in Pasadena, Los Angeles, the Daily Star Sunday reported.
'Two of the teachers, Brandi and Hannah, are training Doria at her home half an hour away to avoid attracting unwanted attention.
'Meghan wants to avoid hiring staff if possible once her first child arrives. The thought of having her mum move in with them and take on the role of baby nurse is the best possible solution to that. Even more so because it's something Doria has always wanted to do anyway. She already specialises in prenatal yoga.
'She's learned everything from breastfeeding and lactation consultancy, basic baby care, CPR and first aid. The course also covers sleep training for later on, weaning and helping the new mother with her recovery' a source told the paper.
Ms Ragland, the only member of the bride's family to attend the royal wedding, is 'extremely close' to former Suits actress Meghan, 37, and may even move in with the couple.
The Californian is believed to have visited Harry, 34, and Meghan at their 'safe haven' cottage in Great Tew, Oxfordshire earlier this summer.
Doria has already started to prepare for her departure to London after she quit her job as a social worker for the Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services clinic in Culver City, Los Angeles, in May.
A close friend in LA previously said: ‘She is getting ready to move to London. I think she will be going as soon as possible. I know that she was eager to live closer to her daughter.
‘She also fell in love with England and told me when she got back that it’s somewhere she believes she too could happily live'.
Another neighbour added: ‘Doria and Meghan have always been inseparable. Doria is beside herself with excitement at the thought of moving to London.'
Just days before the royal nuptials,  Gina Nelthorpe-Cowne, Meghan's friend and former agent said Meghan had told her she 'absolutely love to have children' and she 'can't wait to be a mother'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6147747/Meghan-Markles-mother-sets-tongues-wagging-taking-baby-care-classes-US.html
Comments:
sc3993, Back of Beyond, United Kingdom, 11 minutes ago
If it is pregnant, whose is it?
The Unfettered Pen, Baden bei Wien and York, United Kingdom, 25 minutes ago
Give it a rest with the baby talk. With Harry way off inheriting the throne, she's under no pressure to produce asap and will rightly be enjoying some quality time with her husband. She'll have them when she's ready.
Netlet4585, Los Gatos, United Kingdom, 36 minutes ago
These stories, I think, must be leaked by MM which begs the question. - WHY is she allowed a PR team as she is now a member of the RF? Surely someone must be able to reign her in. Nothing about this woman, marriage, excess spending etc makes sense. Come on Tom, dish some more please.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 09, 2018, 05:53:56 pm
They aren't printing my comments.  :easter-sly:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 09, 2018, 06:00:24 pm
^Same here.  Won't publish anything I try to post and I don't do that very often.  Weird.

But, this got through:

Elisabeth 109, Vienna, Austria, 3 minutes ago

Royal Kensington posted on Twitter this awful women is pregnant , deleted the post min later It was their account on Twitter

ReplyNew Comment
14Click to rate

True/not true?  Anybody?  And the whole bit about Doria taking "nanny lessons"?   Will she be on the payroll?   :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 09, 2018, 06:02:52 pm
Good catch! This cannot be ignored - so DM is getting anonymous missive from KP? Very low. VERY low.  :shy:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 09, 2018, 06:13:17 pm
The tweet regarding her being pregnant happened a while ago; early July/August if I'm not mistaken. Since then, we've seen her looking very thin with no hint of tummy or brest heaviness. 2 days prior to the Jason Wu dress, she woe that expensive black outfit that again showed a flat chest and no tummy.
This wmen spends her time playing games with the press. Harry's rightly being pummled in the press for drgging this low leel con artist into the royal family and causing caos and having peiople not believe what's coming out of KP anymore. He continues to look the fool being a part of this charade and it continues toundermine the few engagements that he's done and will continue to do as long as this continues.
The only thng that makes sense to have things go on this long, is to show the royals as not being racist but inclusive and understanding and to show what this woma's really about; a golddigging race baiter who'd use the royal family for the rest of her life if she wasn't 'brought in' and made to shut up. Now people plainly see that she's merchandising still and leaking tidbits to the press. The oral fmily are allowing her this until she's shut down for good legally.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on September 09, 2018, 06:15:22 pm
Looking at the ill fitting dress I can see why people might think she is.  Others are saying she was pregnant at the wedding.

https://twitter.com/magplanet2015/status/1038494674560970752?s=21


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 09, 2018, 06:22:43 pm
And who would be sorry and crying when the parent dies? Sarah-Jane's bellyaching did get to be a little too much - always so angry and self-centred.

I think that deep down, she resents how she believes that he could have done more to help her along in Hollywood; I don't think that she understands the real nature of the business she was in, that it takes more than a good education, more than UN humanitarian work, and more than even just talent/constant PR. It takes a lot of risk and takes a lot of initiative and takes so much more than just plain luck.

With the changing nature of film and how the rest of the planet is changing in everything, Meg's entire method of getting work, getting roles is outdated and really not that filled with effort. She wasn't entitled to success and she certainly was not entitled to roles/a break just because she wanted it. She could have gotten in some other way, but instead thought that since her family adored her, she had the right to be adored and feted and given opportunities to turn down.

It didn't go that way and she ended up basically making the mistake of taking a passive route, not building any kind of portfolio of work on her own, and she apparently didn't realize that at her age, Hollywood wouldn't come knocking to present the prime roles.

 :flower: You nailed exactly what she is about - those who coasted on Mommy/Daddy opening doors for them, getting roles, etc, the easy way because they think are entitled and special now are paying the piper when they near 40. They are not so special, or cute, or experienced and people don't have time to cater to them. Not so adorable now.  :tehe:

And my heart breaks for these types - really, it does.  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 09, 2018, 07:26:11 pm
I think the world is changing, in that coming from privilege doesn't really make a person magical or worthy of automatic deference and respect. In the 80's, Diana coming from wealth  and a title was something that the British nation took pride in and a lot of men preferred to marry an heiress or upper class girl as a sign that they had made it.

Nowadays, if someone comes from privilege, they are in fact expected to work twice as hard to prove themselves to be half as good and get picked at if they don't 'pay their dues' like everyone else. A posh housewife is looked down on, no longer as respected; it's now thankfully considered something to be ashamed of, to be taken care of by a man for the entirety of someone's life.

I feel for those who were raised by their families to think that privilege and success is their due, mainly since it is painful coming to a realization that they are just like everyone else and they are expected to be a team player and pay their dues and basically contribute, not just go along for the ride on everyone else's back. It comes as a jolt I believe, realizing that just existing isn't enough.

I think Meg has a resentment not coming from a title and I do believe she wishes that she had had the title and the money like a born princess. Climbers like Meg want to be titled and rich and not owe anyone anything, not being a wife/mother and have to work to prove her worth.

For them, life starts at the highest level they reach (like Kate as well) and I do believe that Meg would in fact be happier if her father would drop dead and she would be able to rewrite her life without the inconvenience of her real father. I am certain she's loathing the fact that her father wasn't socially prominent.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 09, 2018, 07:44:32 pm
YesLove, NC, United States, 7 minutes ago
No, Meghan Markle has never given the impression that she's interested in kids. But this is her and her mom's playbook now: Give hints that she's pregnant or she's interested in getting pregnant, like that blue Jason Wu dress with pleats at all the "right" places. Befriend Amal Clooney and make her Meghan's new Jessica Mulroney. And in a couple years, have a kid, divorce Harry and make a play for a billionaire in the Middle East. This is exactly what they want to have happen. Trashy, opportunistic. Social climbing to the max.

LadyElle, West Brompton, United Kingdom, 14 minutes ago
I don't believe this nonsense for a moment. I was just reading on Facebook @ Meghan Markle The Charlatan Duchess that criminal records for Doria have been located. Regardless of their rep, the BRF would think twice. Until KP announces this and it STAYS, then I'll believe it. Until then, this is Markle and her PR playing head games with a very gullible public!

bouncer ruby, Canterbury, United Kingdom, 22 minutes ago
The C looneys are the clue. she will soon be wearing a body suit I should imagine.   :cookie:  Yep, Waity, members only section.

https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/177911704183/look-whos-back-skippyisheretostay

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6147747/Meghan-Markles-mother-sets-tongues-wagging-taking-baby-care-classes-US.html#comments

Funny how she didn't do ths whilst Meghan was married to Trevor because if she did, this story wouldn't be in the press.  :cookie:  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 09, 2018, 10:01:53 pm
So, let me get this straight - the feminist meghan who is all about standing for herself and against racism, sexism and misogyny, same one who was "outraged" that her mom was called "the nanny" in school .... same person is training her own mom to be the nanny. What a hypocrite! Is there a low she won't go  8)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 09, 2018, 10:04:12 pm
^OMG, I forgot about the “nanny outrage” from before. Talk about gall! Holy moly.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on September 10, 2018, 05:37:43 am
^^Yup. I'm just waiting on someone to have the gonads to write an op-ed on this hypocrisy.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on September 10, 2018, 08:05:59 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan got pregnant before the wedding. She seems determined to rip up the royal rulebook and make a mockery of it all. That and she's probably desperate for a child (her meal ticket) before anyone can shaft her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 10, 2018, 10:46:32 pm
She would be showing if she had it's been several months now and it's the close to the Fall. And she'd probably like many in the limelight like to show off the "bump".


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 10, 2018, 10:49:07 pm
Cleaning up his act? Thomas Markle gets a haircut and beard trim before stopping by a Subway in Mexico
As he continues to hold out hope for a reunion with his daughter, Thomas Markle is also cleaning up his look.
Markle was spotted getting a haircut at a barbershop near his home in Rosarito, Mexico on Sunday.
The 74-year-old also had his bear trimmed before going by a Subway to pick up a quick lunch as he ran errands around the city.
Markle sported his usual uniform of a black polo shirt and jeans for a day out on the town.  
The Duchess of Sussex's father has been keeping a relatively low-profile after a series of very public outbursts to the press regarding their relationship this summer.  
Last week he was spotted grabbing food near his home in Mexico, stopping at a local fish shack for some takeout.  
It came shortly after Markle received some advice from his daughter's onscreen father Wendell Pierce, who played Robert Zane on the hit series Suits.
'If you care about Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, then that should be first and foremost in your mind before you say anything,' Pierce told The Telegraph.
'If you love your daughter, just love your daughter. It's not for public consumption.'
Markle has attracted criticism in recent months for embarrassing his daughter in a series of media interviews and organizing paparazzi photos to cash in on her fame.
He sensationally revealed how he had hung up on Prince Harry during a heated call ahead of the couple's wedding on May 19, leading the Duchess to want 'time off' from their relationship.
Now Markle is said to be begging for a 'final chance' to make peace with his daughter Meghan and Prince Harry before the door closes forever.
Meanwhile, Meghan's mother Doria Ragland has reportedly been making secret visits to the UK to comfort her daughter in the wake of his outbursts.  
Ragland, who lives in Los Angeles, made the trips after repeated criticism from Markle that he had been 'cut off' by the Duchess of Sussex and the royal family.
The Mail on Sunday understands that on one occasion – in July – the social worker stayed with Harry and Meghan at their Oxfordshire cottage.
A source said: 'The visit was totally under the radar…Doria supported Meghan throughout a lot of the ordeal with Thomas.'
Markle is reportedly holding out hope that he will be able to apologize to his daughter during a rumored trip to her native California.  
The royal couple will reportedly stop at the state following their first official overseas tour of Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, and Tonga in October.
It is rumored the couple will privately meet with friends who attended their wedding, including Oprah Winfrey and Serena Williams, and will attend a charity polo event in Los Angeles or Santa Barbara.
However, the newlyweds will not travel to her father's hilltop retirement home in the ramshackle beach resort town of San Antonio Del Mar due to security reasons.
The home is less than 14 miles away from the drug-ravaged border city of Tijuana, where more than 1,700 murders were recorded last year alone.  
Meghan is not expected to contact her father or other family members, including half-brother Thomas Jr - who wrote a public letter trying to convince Prince Harry to not go through with the royal wedding.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6152837/Thomas-Markle-gets-hair-cut-beard-trip-stopping-Subway-Mexico.html
Papa’s still playing games. According to this article, he just happened to go to the barber shop on Sunday just as the photographer was in the neighborhood.   :bored: Is Meghan trying to get sympathy again after her disastrous few engagements where she was again dressed inappropriately in expensive clothing to charity events and in black to visit ill children.  :cookie: 

Doria’s allegedly going to be on American tv tonight.
Anonymous asked:
Inside Edition will be featuring Dorito. OMG zzz..her fembots working OT, at least they will be paid in t-shirts and yoga mats? Ring, ring! Anon
Source: https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 12, 2018, 03:15:40 am
Inside edition had Doria side of the family .they want Meghan to come to the family reunion

https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/177991993901/meghan-markles-georgia-relatives-hope-shell-come#notes


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 16, 2018, 12:56:40 am
I'm going to kill you, you fat f*****': Meghan's father Thomas Markle is 'receiving death threats' from close female friend's violent criminal ex-boyfriend
Meghan Markle’s father has received ‘death threats’ from a violent criminal, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Thomas Markle, 74, has been subjected to ‘multiple threats to his life’ from Jose Sandoval, the former boyfriend of one of his closest female friends. Sandoval has allegedly conducted ‘a campaign of terror’ against Lori Davis, 38, and her 11-year-old daughter Jocelyn, who refers to Mr Markle as ‘Uncle’.

Last week Sandoval – who was jailed for 30 months in the US for illegally entering the country before being deported in 2000 – allegedly drove past Mr Markle’s house in Rosarito Beach, Mexico, and shouted at the retired Emmy-winning lighting director: ‘I’m going to kill you, you fat f*****.’ Sandoval denies the claims https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6172023/Thomas-Markle-receiving-death-threats-friends-violent-criminal-ex-boyfriend.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 16, 2018, 03:03:26 am
I really feel for this guy; he can't seem to catch a break and he can't seem to actually make some kind of progress in life. His daughter has publicly rejected and dumped on him during her PR campaign of being an eternal victim, he's clearly struggling with his health and finances, now this. He does seem isolated and trying to keep his head above water.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on September 16, 2018, 07:42:22 am
^

I really feel for him too.  He worked hard to give Meghan the best and spent most of his alleged lottery win doing the same.  He has apparently kept on the right side of the law whilst Doria is reported to have been in prison for several years.  Only yesterday Samantha was saying that Doria still smokes cocaine.  Thomas has never been given support or advice and was left to flounder.  Harry showed his true colours by also being unpleasant to him.   Going round as faux humanitarians hasn’t  helped Harry and Meghan one bit.  Charity should begin at home.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 16, 2018, 09:41:14 am
^ He treated her like the golden child. She received all that his other two kids didn't - private schools, backstage on the shows he worked, European trips. And how is she repaying him... shame on her.

^^^ Could this lovely girl be Megan's half-sister ... from a woman who is just a year older than her and who already has an 11 years old child while Meg can't even conceive her first one ...


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 16, 2018, 02:00:13 pm
^

I really feel for him too.  He worked hard to give Meghan the best and spent most of his alleged lottery win doing the same.  He has apparently kept on the right side of the law whilst Doria is reported to have been in prison for several years.  Only yesterday Samantha was saying that Doria still smokes cocaine.  Thomas has never been given support or advice and was left to flounder.  Harry showed his true colours by also being unpleasant to him.   Going round as faux humanitarians hasn’t  helped Harry and Meghan one bit.  Charity should begin at home.

Samantha can say whatever she wants. Doria ignores her. which is as it should be. Thomas is a grown man and if he floundered it's because of the choices he made in life. He should have gotten support about finances and such from professional advisers. IMO. Thomas admitted he used drugs which is not on the right side of the law. What happened between Harry and Thomas is known only to them. Harry never publicly gave his side of the story.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 18, 2018, 12:41:28 am
Doria Ragland, Meghan Markle's Mom, Dresses Casually as She Catches Flight to London

Doria Ragland, Meghan Markle's mother, was spotted at the airport as she embarked on a trip to visit her daughter in London.

Ragland was dressed casually as she was escorted through Los Angeles International Airport.

Inside Edition recently spoke to long-lost relatives of Meghan on her mother's side.

Many of Ragland's family members still live in Georgia, where Meghan’s third great-grandfather, Steve Ragland, was born into slavery in 1848.

Meghan’s third great-grandmother was the first of her mother's family to move to Los Angeles, where Meghan was born in 1981 and where Ragland lives now.

Some of Meghan’s cousins, however, just learned about their bond with Meghan just before the royal wedding in May. They hope Prince Harry and their famous cousin visit Georgia soon.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doria-ragland-meghan-markle-apos-190350267.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 18, 2018, 03:26:09 pm
She is close to her mother so it makes perfect sense her mother and her want to see each other.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on September 18, 2018, 03:36:32 pm
Close enough to use as Press bait.

Meghan is the classic user, her mother included.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 18, 2018, 04:34:32 pm
^ Like mother like daughter.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 24, 2018, 02:09:15 pm
Revealed: Meghan's mother Doria is 'set to get her own place in the UK so she can spend more time with her daughter' – and in preparation for 'grandchildren coming along'
Meghan's mother Doria Ragland is set to get her own place in the UK so she can spend more time with her daughter, sources say.
The yoga instructor, who is based in LA, is now understood to be considering spending part of the year in England, particularly if 'grandchildren come along'.
She and Meghan are said to 'speak on the phone pretty much every day', in stark contrast to Thomas Markle's strained relationship with his daughter.
They speak on the phone pretty much every day and they are talking about Doria getting a place in the UK so that she can spend part of the year over here.'
Doria currently lives in LA, where Meghan grew up as a child, and is not believed to be considering a permanent move to the UK.
The source added: 'I think the idea is that Doria will have a pied-à-terre here so that she has her own space. She wants the ability to be here more often, especially if grandchildren come along.'
The Duchess of Sussex's mother was spotted returning to LA on Friday, just a day after appearing at a Kensington Palace reception celebrating the launch of Together: Our Community Cookbook.
Meghan's mother looked chic in an all-camel ensemble as she attended the event with both her daughter and Prince Harry.
She wore a co-ordianting  jumper and cropped trousers, which she accessorised  with a Pashmina draped around her shoulders and a pair of £340 ($445) Stuart Weitzman heels.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6201369/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-set-place-UK.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on September 24, 2018, 04:58:40 pm
I imagine Doria will move into KP and we will be paying for it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on September 24, 2018, 05:41:11 pm
If Old Sparky had her way her Mother would be sitting on the throne.  This is ridiculous!  :wopedo:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 24, 2018, 05:58:58 pm
Duchess of Sussex's half-sister Samantha Markle 'is on her way to London to meet with Meghan to discuss their father Thomas Markle's health'
Meghan Markle's half-sister Samantha claims she is flying to the UK in a last-ditch attempt to discuss their father's health.
The former model, 53, is currently in Italy and 'just one short flight away' from London.
Ms Markle, who suffers from multiple sclerosis and is restricted to a wheelchair, says she has tried to contact her sister through official lines of communication - but she has been ignored. Kensington Palace have not commented on her claims.
Thomas Markle, 74, told the Mail on Sunday earlier this summer his daughter would 'be better off if he died' and she has cut all contact with him.
He was not in Windsor for her May wedding to Prince Harry as he was recovering from heart surgery.  
His other daughter Samantha's agent and PR manager Rob Cooper, who became known as self-made glamour model Josie Cunningham's manager, announced Ms Markle's imminent arrival on Twitter.
Mr Cooper tweeted today: 'Samantha Markle is coming to the UK. After making numerous attempts in private to arrange a one on one meeting with The Duchess of Sussex to discuss their 74 year old father’s health, Kensington Palace have refused to respond.
'I fear Meghan may not be made aware of these discreet (cont) attempts and therefore making this public is the only option we have left.  I currently have Samantha in Europe with just one short flight away.
'This DOESN’T need to be public, we would prefer to keep this private. Samantha is coming to the UK this week, like it or not.'  :bored:
Ms Markle posted a picture of herself inside an airport terminal today with the words 'new profile pic'.  
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6202181/Samantha-Markle-Meghans-sister-fly-UK-discuss-father-Thomas-Markles-health.html
Unless she has new info on Meghan, then she needn’t come. Regurgitating the same old ((NA with a few insults Harry’s way has become unnecessary and boring.
On a positive note, she looks great with shorter hair.




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 06:36:07 pm
If she wants it private, she sure spoiled it by telling the world about it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 24, 2018, 06:42:41 pm
This person says that Samantha’s a threat to a member of the royal family.   :tehe:  She has a big mouth and is just spinning nonsense to stay in the media and now enjoy overseas trips. She’s cashing in.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/5c15ed92a609a568a356ed290a278baf/tumblr_pfkjf92Wrt1uh38om_1280.jpg


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 06:54:01 pm
I think she's a threat to herself.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 24, 2018, 07:28:55 pm
Finn that now she’s coming to London to discuss her dad’s health when we’ve seen him out and about looking fine. IMO , she’s there to up the stakes for Meghan to get a payoff and leave. By keeping this nonsense with the Markle’s going to the media, she must think that the royal family will get fed up and want to pay them all off. Odd how on the brink of Meghan’s solo engagement she decides to go to London. She herself didn’t go to see her dad.  :bored: 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 07:31:49 pm
I hope its a productive meeting and sincere and not all about her and her grievances (I think it is all about her). Is Doria even speaking to Samantha? And vice versa?



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: buflesse on September 24, 2018, 07:42:26 pm
Samantha is clearly a very troubled woman who, whatever happened in the past, is feeling like she has been used and abandoned by her sister. I don't know why some people take it upon themselves to be nasty to her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2018, 07:47:19 pm
Meg has used and abandoned Samantha; as a low grade actress, she could have spent more time with her sister since she wasn't in high demand as an actress. I don't think Samantha is so horrible a person that Samantha deserves to be shunned and her illness isn't something that is easy to bear.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 07:51:21 pm
I think Samantha should think about the old adage about not trying to change other's behavior but trying to change one's own. It might help her outlook.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 24, 2018, 07:56:54 pm
Samantha may be a wacko but she’s a million times more interesting to watch than her big phony half sister.  Bring on the dirt, Samantha.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 08:03:38 pm
I think she's hurting herself the most.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2018, 08:46:06 pm
I think Samantha should think about the old adage about not trying to change other's behavior but trying to change one's own. It might help her outlook.

Or Meg can start treating her family better; I am certain that being abandoned and then publicly shamed by the press has upset her as well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 24, 2018, 10:22:37 pm
^ She's making a living, and a good one at it, I think. Just like her sister is making a living being part of brf.
(By the way, Sam is a narc too. If you notice, both sisters have their chin up when they talk, like all the time, and especially on pictures. Classic narc telltale. Tom Sr doesn't have it but he looks like a very tall guy so his natural could be to look people down.. just speculating, of course.)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on September 24, 2018, 11:08:12 pm
Rumour has it that Samantha will be sitting in her wheelchair outside KP hoping that Megan will take pity on her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 24, 2018, 11:30:33 pm
Does Sam resemble her mother? Have their been any photographs published of Tom, first wife and family?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 25, 2018, 01:18:59 am
I think Samantha and the rest of Meg's family (whether Meg likes it or not they are her family) have every reason to be angry; while I think her siblings have serious issues, I do believe that Meg is in fact someone who refuses to accept that she didn't just start life all over after she got together with Harry and I do believe that she wishes she could rub out the existence of her family and recreate her past along more genteel lines. Her family is a reminder of where she REALLY comes from.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 25, 2018, 01:41:42 am
Anybody know anything about Sam’s mother or did Thomas raise them all?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on September 25, 2018, 04:02:31 am
Thomas and Roslyn Loveless married when Thomas was 20 and Roslyn was nearly 19. They later divorced (when Tom headed to LA for his career)  and Roslyn then moved with her two children Yvonne, later calling herself Samantha, and Tom Jnr, to Albercurque, New Mexico. She later remarried there and had another son, Bobby.

Samantha is estranged from her mother Roslyn and is still estranged from one of her two daughters, about whom there was court action involving her treatment of them. Instead of lecturing Meghan why doesn't Samantha mend relations with her own mother (whom she called 'an old drunk' in one Twitter rampage) and her daughter?

This is a long article on Meghan's ancestry which stretches way back into American history. If you scroll way down there are photos of Thomas and of Samantha and Tom Jnr when he was young.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5012931/DailyMailTV-reveals-Meghan-Markle-s-family-roots.html



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 25, 2018, 06:07:28 am
^ Yvonne is such a beautiful name. Sam is an entertainer, just like Meg. This trip is not about exposing Meg and her lack of heart, lack of compassion and lack of love for her family. It's not about Sam making amends with her own family. Sam is cut out of the life of only two family members. Meg had cut out everyone. Who's less callous here?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on September 25, 2018, 06:27:33 am
How do we know that Samantha isn't estranged from other members of her family? We don't. Tom Snr quarrelled with all the members of his family some years ago, according to Tom Jnr.. Which side did Samantha take in that argument? Tom snr several months ago asserted that he had told Sam to shut up about her half sister. IMO all this closeness and worry Samantha is supposedly feeling towards her father is very recent, since it proved to be a weapon she could use in her war against Meghan. A war fuelled by envy and resentment, IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 25, 2018, 07:24:55 am
We don't know if Sam is estranged from everyone in the world or not but she's disabled, in a wheel chair, and anyone with the tiniest bit of decency would look past the flaws and at least keep in touch with her. However, even if we buy the "Sam, Tom Sr and Tom jr are the worst" rhetoric, this still doesn't explain why the uncle who helped her with a job at the embassy didn't get an invite, or the whole Ragrand side of the family where she has an uncle who is her age. What did they "do to her" so that she didn't have the decency to invite them to her own wedding or keep in touch.

I am on Sam's side on this one because she picked up a just fight. Whatever words can be attributed to her motivations, she is fighting for family values, for caring about your old, flawed dad who also raised M in luxury, with European trips and private schools, who gave her a better start in life than, quite frankly, M deserves. She's fighting for gratitude, for respect of your origins. These are all just fights. I don't care if she's envious or resentful of M or anyone who can walk.

Meghan has showed to have zero family values, zero gratitude, zero decency. If it inconveniences her that Sam is pointing that out without really working too hard to show it, that's her problem not Sam's.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on September 25, 2018, 07:51:12 am
We don't know who paid for the trip to Britain Meghan took as a teenager. Doria was working too, so she may well have contributed. Ditto with her university fees. And Tom Snr wasn't just addressing Meghan when he spoke about money given and loaned to his children in the past that he expected to be paid back to him in his old age. It was his other two children as well.

There were rumours in fact that Ragland relatives were at the wedding and were recognised by a Royal reporter on the ITV coverage. 'Family values', decency, gratitude! Where are Sam's family values where her mother and daughters are concerned? Where is the gratitude to her own mother who raised her?

And where were family values and decency when Samantha started ranting about Meghan, her half-sister, in October 2016. It was vile stuff (and her father wasn't mentioned in those rants then.) It only really levelled off when Samantha thought she might get an invite to the wedding. She only started complaining about her father's treatment shortly before he himself began. It wasn't so in 2016/17.

This is Samantha's half sister. If she considers she has treated her half-sister well in the things she's said about her publicly in the over two years she's been online, then she has a different idea of decency than I do. And if any half-sibling had said half the things about me that she has said about Meghan I would never speak to them again either!
  ( If she thinks so little of Meghan too, why change her name to Markle only when her sister became famous? She was Grant before that. She's admitted to piers Morgan that she's cashing in on her half sibling. Yes, that's real family values working there!)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 25, 2018, 07:57:32 am
I think Meg's 'problem' with her family is the belief that she might think that they should have been 'better,' aka more illustrious, more prominent; basically she has probably thirsted to be American royalty and resents her family for not being what she thinks they should have been. This happens in a lot of families where someone might have looks and talent and the ability to make a great life for themselves and yet, they resent not coming from a family that is 'society' and upper crust. As if that will somehow make everything all right, or that someone of their vaunted stature deserved a 'better' family. Her family isn't from money, she got the trappings, but she keeps resenting her family as if they've committed some crime in not being born on the social register. Her determination to have Charles walk her to the altar told the world what she thought of the father who gave her everything and it was a horrible slap in the face. Meg clearly didn't want her 'shabby' origins taking center stage.

When you throw in the guest list at her wedding, it was mainly celebs and socialites, many of who never knew she existed until the relationship and engagement. She wanted to indulge in a fantasy that she had come to Harry as an equal and had had an illustrious career in  Hollywood and humanitarianism and was making some huge sacrifice in giving it all up for him. I don't think she wanted to come as a house girl at Soho and was a D-list supporting character in a low tier television series. The reality of her family isn't part of that narrative, that fantasy she's been living her life by and I do believe she is angry how her family refuses to just be quiet and take PR abuse.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on September 25, 2018, 08:24:10 am
If you look at the guest list for Harry/Meghan's wedding it wasn't 'mainly celebrities'. They had about 100 celebrity guests. The other 520 were made up of royals, Harry's extended family, other close friends, military figures from the Blues and Royals and Marines and representatives of charity groups associated with the Royal Foundation and other charities.

Charles walked Meghan part of the way down the Quire, not all the way down the aisle. She took herself down there, and that was because Tom, her father was in hospital just before, getting a stent put in. If he had had a stent put in months before and maybe looked after his health then he could have walked his daughter down the aisle, as he said he wanted to do. The only 'PR abuse' is coming from the two Toms and Samantha. Meghan hasn't said a thing publicly. Neither has Harry.

There is no evidence whatsoever that I have ever read except here and on certain other sites that Meghan was ever a 'house girl' for Soho House, which I maintain is a perfectly respectable business.Nor is there any evidence that Meghan has desired to be 'upper register' that I can see. She wrote very lovingly of her father in the past, and if she was snobbish enough to have wanted to be in the upper social register Meghan wouldn't have taken her much-loved mother, to whom she is close, on a Royal engagement, IMO. I think Doria is lovely.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on September 25, 2018, 12:01:29 pm
Let's see where is Sam's decency ... right up thr alley where M's is .. MIA.

Has anyone actually been to that perfectly respectable establishment Soho or it is just soeculation that a gentleman's club is perfectly respectable?

Also, trying to outdo which of the two Markles is worse is not a good strategy. Both are the same - golddigging, money grabbing, social climbers with zero shame or decency. However, only one of them has family values and it isn't M. Sam has to do very little to expose that.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on September 25, 2018, 12:11:21 pm
Soho House isn't a gentlemen's club. It was first founded in 1995 for people (including women) in the creative industries.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on September 25, 2018, 09:15:24 pm
Doria is much more lovely than Megs. But she does need to learn how to get out of a car now.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: LadyLaura on September 25, 2018, 10:43:56 pm
just a thought, if Thomas Markle were black, would Meagain treat him better? I can't help but think she sure would.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on September 25, 2018, 11:22:27 pm
^Green is the only color she worships.  As long as he had it, she was his “princess”.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on September 25, 2018, 11:24:40 pm
^^Do you mean if both Megs' parents were African-American? imo dad would be treated much better because she uses her "blackness" for PR in the BRF.

If her mother were white and dad black? Hmm, tough one. To treat your mother wrong would really look bad for Megs regardless of the mother's race and she would need her black dad for the "blackness PR" so again imo dad would be treated better and her white mother would be around even if she treated Meg wrong.I

We haven't heard from Daddy Markle, was he paid off during the summer break?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: LadyLaura on September 26, 2018, 12:25:32 am
^ yes, if they were both Africaan American, after all she does use her "black"status when it suits her. she was awfully close to her dad when he was putting her through school and giving her vacations and what not. But poor ol fat cracker doesnt make her look so good now, and got nothing to offer.

^^ and yes she does worship the green!!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2018, 02:35:25 am
^Green is the only color she worships.  As long as he had it, she was his “princess”.

Exactly; I think her narcissism is inbred and I believe that she is only 'nice' to those who treat her in the style she thinks she deserves. I also think she was close to him since she thought he was going to be the one to launch her into the life of fame and fortune that she believed she was destined for, therefore deserving of it. However, once she started doing auditions and started to really struggle, I think she blamed her father for not making something magical happen so she would get a better career.

I also think that she also experienced the reality that her father wasn't going to hold her hand, support her in style while she struggled to make herself a star. Her stories of living in a car and not living poshly was probably an experience that embittered her, especially when in that industry the gulf between the haves and the have nots is VERY much on display. On one hand you have the established celebs who are merrily moving from one project to another and enjoying the luxurious life and on the other, the nobodies who are trying hard to get their break and living in bad areas in crappy apartments.

I do not think for one minute that she was unaffected by all of it and I am certain that she felt angry that she wasn't allowed to live a maxed out lifestyle while trying to make it in that industry. Perhaps her greatest yearning was to be a society heiress and be able to live in a huge mansion and shop at the top stores and therefore be able to enjoy a leisurely pursuit, treating work in Hollywood as a hobby, not a real career. I think that is when she began to turn on her father and resented that he wasn't footing her bills so she could live in a poshy place and wouldn't somehow provide a lifestyle of unlimited money.

As for her uncle who got her that embassy internship, I wager she didn't like the thought of being just like everyone else and so quit thinking that she 'deserved' better than having to work at an office job. Harry is clearly the same since he quit his career in the military rather than work at a desk job to move up to the Admiralty. So ti would explain in full WHY she cut her entire loving family out and wouldn't ask them to be there for her big day.

VF: Doria Ragland wants a ‘pied-à-terre’ in London, especially when grandkids come
https://www.celebitchy.com/593362/vf_doria_ragland_wants_a_pied-a-terre_in_london_especially_when_grandkids_come/

This won't go over well with the public or even BRF; this is unfair to the public, who won't have a chance to live half as well.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on September 26, 2018, 10:49:09 am
^Green is the only color she worships.  As long as he had it, she was his “princess”.

Well said.

^ Possibly the diplomat uncle was shunned because she wanted to show that she is the best of her family, the diamond amongst lumps of coal, and because it wouldn't fit into her overall narrative.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 26, 2018, 09:41:40 pm
Meghan Markle's friend reveals Duchess will not meet with half-sister
Meghan Markle has no intention of meeting with her half-sister Samantha when she comes to the UK, her friend has revealed to DailyMailTV.

Samantha's manager announced the 53-year-old would be travelling to the UK this week in hopes of having a talk with Meghan to discuss the health of their father Thomas Markle.

But the has no plans to see her 'very jealous' older sister, especially given Samantha's frequent tirades against her and her new royal family members.

A friend of Meghan's told DailyMailTV: 'There is not a chance in hell that Meghan is going to lower herself and meet with her half sister.

'Samantha is kidding herself if she thinks there is any possibility of getting together with Meghan, or anyone from the Royal family for that matter.'

She added: 'Meghan and Samantha are not close in the slightest. They never have been and it's doubtful they ever will be, especially after all of Samantha's name-calling and bullying.'

Samantha frequently lashes out at Meghan and her husband Prince Harry, insulting her with petty names, calling her a 'ducha**', and going as far as saying if their father Thomas dies, it will be because of her.

Earlier this month, Samantha went on an extraordinary Twitter rant, proclaiming Meghan 'wasn't much different than Trump'.

She wrote: '[He] thinks he can shoot someone and still get votes. She can dump an entire family both sides and a best friend of 30 years and ignore it and be popular. Sad.'

The friend explained  that Meghan has long been dealing with Samantha who is 'very jealous' and 'always kept tabs on how much their father spent on her'.

She said: 'Samantha has always tried to drive a wedge between Meghan and her father, and this is no exception. It's no surprise that Meghan doesn't have a relationship with her.

'And as far as her dad's health is concerned, Meghan is not worried.

'Her mom would be the first to know if there was some serious health issue with her dad, and she would tell Meghan.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6207109/Theres-not-chance-hell-Meghan-Markle-Duchess-meet-half-sister-Samantha.html

Sam just needs to go away


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on September 29, 2018, 04:11:27 pm
Meghan's outspoken half-sister Samantha threatens more embarrassment for the Royal Family as she arrives in London after vowing to have a 'showdown with the Duchess over their father's failing health'
Samantha tweeted the news of her arrival and said she is having a 'wonderful time in London'.
The 53-year-old, who hasn't seen Meghan in more than a decade, wrote: 'Having a wonderful time in London! British people have been so lovely and helpful! If I can survive the roundabouts it will be a miracle LOL!'
The length of Samantha's stay in the UK is unknown, but it is thought that she intends to confront Meghan over their father’s ill-health.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6221689/Meghans-outspoken-half-sister-Samantha-arrives-London-vowing-showdown-Duchess.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on September 29, 2018, 04:20:25 pm
Let's see how far she gets. She should just enjoy the trip.

Now she's bringing Trump into it.LOL. Meghan had some harsh words about Trump so I don't think she's "like him."


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 01, 2018, 03:03:07 am
IMO, they're all in this together to make money. She was very quiet whilst Meghan had her solo engagement and book launch. Now she's acting up again just in time for Waity's return from her very long maternity leave. She'sgoing to be on channel 5 on Monday, I believe.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/1350e30b1cdfea55cae2372a97d7d0f8/tumblr_pfw9seIPUo1uh38om_540.jpg

Duchess of Sussex's half-sister Samantha Markle lashes out at the media as she says their father Thomas 'might be a bit shy but has a huge heart'  :bored:
But now she has posted online to lash out at the media, who she claims 'just regurgitate rumours' about her and her family, which are 'a joke'.
She also appeared to hit out at negative comments about her father, Thomas Markle, 74 who is at the centre of the siblings' tensions.
Ms Markle wrote: 'I guarantee that 99% of you if you could meet my dad he would love him and want to give them a big hug he is a sweetheart and might be a little shy but he has a huge heart so it is very wrong to misinterpret him.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6224279/Samantha-Markle-goes-Twitter-rant-against-media-London-says-father-Thomas-big-heart.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on October 01, 2018, 03:40:15 am
Let murky's mother have her pied a terre in London , Harry's got plenty of money but my guess is the largess of the British taxpayers will somehow be involved


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 01, 2018, 03:09:13 pm
She is not a royal and taxpayers are not going to pay for her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 01, 2018, 03:52:44 pm
Oh but they will; the BRF clearly no longer cares about the feelings of the taxpayers and so therefore the taxpayers will one way or another.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 01, 2018, 05:43:56 pm
How can they pay for one relatives expenses if they don't pay for the others? Unless they already have arrangements with Carole et al?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 01, 2018, 06:47:37 pm
The BRF is loaded; their landholdings are worth trillions and I'm sure that the BRF will instead use taxpayers because the BRF prefer to freeload off of everyone around them.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 01, 2018, 09:39:49 pm
Samantha’s apparently left London.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178644426848/samantha-said-in-the-interview-with-jeremythree

Samantha threatened or an excuse why she left London.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/e79327c0ff2dca3c3067c4961b799827/tumblr_inline_pfxszgXCoJ1vh0s4w_1280.jpg



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 02, 2018, 01:50:29 am
why did sam even come London ? Sam and Meghan bridge will never happen her rants are so  :sigh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: dianab on October 02, 2018, 02:14:39 am
The BRF is loaded; their landholdings are worth trillions and I'm sure that the BRF will instead use taxpayers because the BRF prefer to freeload off of everyone around them.
true. think otherwise is naive... at best

How can they pay for one relatives expenses if they don't pay for the others? Unless they already have arrangements with Carole et al?
diference the middletons, like fergusons, spencers, sophie's family ARE BRITISH citzens who have all their lives supported themselves (most of them well-off/wealthy in their own right). meghan's mom definitely isnt  wealthy in her own right and cant support herself in London/England.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on October 02, 2018, 03:02:31 am
^Green is the only color she worships.  As long as he had it, she was his “princess”.

Exactly; I think her narcissism is inbred and I believe that she is only 'nice' to those who treat her in the style she thinks she deserves. I also think she was close to him since she thought he was going to be the one to launch her into the life of fame and fortune that she believed she was destined for, therefore deserving of it. However, once she started doing auditions and started to really struggle, I think she blamed her father for not making something magical happen so she would get a better career.

I also think that she also experienced the reality that her father wasn't going to hold her hand, support her in style while she struggled to make herself a star. Her stories of living in a car and not living poshly was probably an experience that embittered her, especially when in that industry the gulf between the haves and the have nots is VERY much on display. On one hand you have the established celebs who are merrily moving from one project to another and enjoying the luxurious life and on the other, the nobodies who are trying hard to get their break and living in bad areas in crappy apartments.

I do not think for one minute that she was unaffected by all of it and I am certain that she felt angry that she wasn't allowed to live a maxed out lifestyle while trying to make it in that industry. Perhaps her greatest yearning was to be a society heiress and be able to live in a huge mansion and shop at the top stores and therefore be able to enjoy a leisurely pursuit, treating work in Hollywood as a hobby, not a real career. I think that is when she began to turn on her father and resented that he wasn't footing her bills so she could live in a poshy place and wouldn't somehow provide a lifestyle of unlimited money.

As for her uncle who got her that embassy internship, I wager she didn't like the thought of being just like everyone else and so quit thinking that she 'deserved' better than having to work at an office job. Harry is clearly the same since he quit his career in the military rather than work at a desk job to move up to the Admiralty. So ti would explain in full WHY she cut her entire loving family out and wouldn't ask them to be there for her big day.

VF: Doria Ragland wants a ‘pied-à-terre’ in London, especially when grandkids come
https://www.celebitchy.com/593362/vf_doria_ragland_wants_a_pied-a-terre_in_london_especially_when_grandkids_come/

This won't go over well with the public or even BRF; this is unfair to the public, who won't have a chance to live half as well.

The fact that she's said that her mother advised her to only have people in her life that can do something for her only adds validity to your argument.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 04, 2018, 03:34:09 pm
Now Samantha Markle takes aim at DORIA: Meghan's half-sister claims the Duchess' mother 'wasn't around much' when she was growing up – and says the royal owes 'everything' to their father
Following her ongoing criticism of her half-sister, Samantha Markle has now turned her attentions to the Duchess of Sussex's mother, Doria Ragland, in a new social media tirade.
The 53-year-old took to Twitter to enlighten her followers on her version of Meghan's childhood, saying Ms Ragland 'wasn't around much' for the Duchess as she was growing up.
Markle arrived in London last week claiming that she hoped to move 'forward with peaceful resolve' after her frequent outbursts against her sister - but the latest comments are unlikely to enhance any chances of reconciliation.
On Twitter last night, Markle told her 7,000 followers that Meghan owed 'everything' to her father Thomas Markle.
She wrote, replying to a tweet praising Doria and Meghan: 'Glad you love people you don’t even know. But everything that you think you know from tabloids is a lie. Dad pretty much raised her most of her life on his own and Doria was not around very much.'
She followed up later praising Thomas Markle as the 'best father in the world' and reiterating the influence she feels the 74-year-old had on the Duchess' early years.
Ms Markle penned: 'The world does not know that our dad raised her most of the time without the input of her mother especially from age 12 through high school and he gave her everything she had and is.
'She was never raised as an only child. Truth kids! He is amazing and successful. And Mags lie.'
Neither Mr Markle or Samantha Markle attended Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex's wedding in Windsor on May 18th this year.
There was anger too reserved for Meghan, with Ms Markle accusing her half-sister of 'ghosting' her family, saying she only began speaking to the press about family relationships when Meghan stopped talking to them after becoming involved with Prince Harry.
The 53-year-old wrote: 'She has ghosted both sides of the family she needs to earn our trust it is the other way around. You don’t crap on an entire family and then run around crying that you cannot trust everyone.'
In another 'ghosting' tweet, she suggested that Doria and Meghan were close because the Duchess had shunned friends, writing: 'Doria might be her best friend now because she ghosted her best friend of 30 years. Nikki Priddy.'
Samantha Markle's message for Meghan on Channel 5 show Jeremy Vine
Samantha Markle was asked on Channel 5 today if she had a message for Meghan. This is what she said:
'There is so much water under the bridge and so much has spun out of control that was never intended to.
'I think everybody was hurt by not being included or invited to the wedding.
'But I felt as though it could have all been nipped in the bud had everyone been included and we all just agreed to move forward with positive resolve, and the hurt feelings wouldn't have snowballed.
'But, believe it or not, it doesn't mean that we love you any less.
'I just think that families can be this way when there's confusion and when people are hurt.
'So, moving forward, I apologise and I wish things could be different.'
And she added that Meghan had 'ignored' their father while he was ill in hospital after suffering a heart attack, penning to another critic: 'You have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.
'She ignored my father through a heart attack there is no excuse for it. You would be mentally ill to think that is OK. Maybe you were the one who needs the counseling.'
Speaking about how Thomas posed for the staged photographs, she said: 'The logic behind that really is that I became so tired of him being purposely photographed in such a hurtful way, in a disparaging way.
'I said "you know, you have a right like a business card to defend yourself and have the world and the British royal family see you as you accurately are – don't lay down and let them disparage you like that".
'So with regards to the money and this idea of cashing in, he was turning down $50,000 (£38,000) interviews.
'So clearly money was not the goal, and the small amount of money that he received, £1,500, photographers made the money – not my father. It was never a goal.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6239693/Samantha-Markle-launches-vitriolic-rant-against-Meghans-mother-Doria-Ragland.html
 :bored:  say why Doria was absent a lot, otherwise stop talking.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 04, 2018, 03:46:35 pm
I would say to Sam Just Stop talking.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on October 04, 2018, 03:54:23 pm
^Although I see a lot of anger in  Samantha-Markle, I also feel the hurt oozing out of her.  Old Sparky has done some nasty discarding and IMO Doria has a wild past.  I’ve read some things that are kind of surprising and I think mother and daughter are not too dissimilar.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 04, 2018, 03:59:22 pm
Doria has had a steady job and keeps her mouth shut to the media. She may be seething at Sam but does keep her mouth shut. I say the less public squabbling the better. I don't feel sorry for Sam. If she is hurt, she can go to a qualified counselor instead of this self destructive behavior. It goes nowhere.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 04, 2018, 04:28:30 pm
It’s revealing how I don’t see any evidence of parenting going on with these people.  Where’s the unconditional love and support without reward?  They all, and that includes Smirkle, are quite clear that they are mercenary with each other.  As soon as the money runs out, they bolt.  Doria would, too.  On that I don’t kid myself.  She didn’t even bother to stick around as a mother.

But, as sicko as they all are, I do have sympathy for Tom Sr.  He at least fed and clothed the ungrateful brat.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 04, 2018, 04:33:32 pm
If they didn't take care of the upkeep of Meghan, child protective services would have come to call.

I do like that Tom has stopped the media campaign and maybe they can all apologize and be done with it.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on October 04, 2018, 04:38:16 pm
So what exactly does Doria do? I've heard she's a social worker, yoga studio owner/instructor, then has no job at all.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 04, 2018, 04:58:33 pm
She did have a steady job I read nothing about her quitting or the status of the jobs. One report said she'd work in the UK but nothing after that.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 04, 2018, 09:45:31 pm
It's my understanding that she no longer has full time employment. Would she even qualify for a work permit in the UK?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 04, 2018, 09:48:17 pm
She'll get one because of who he daughter is; I do think Meg wants to put her mother up in KP. IF Meg manages that, Carole will be able to get in citing that Meg's mother got a place at KP, so she, Carole should have one.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 05, 2018, 03:31:56 pm
So, essentially if she gets in or not may come down to their willingness to tolerate MILs across the board. In that case, I don't think she'll manage it. I think CM would have moved in long ago if it had been allowed, and were it going to be allowed, I think it likely would have happened on the back of her efforts, irrespective of Meghan's arrival. However, they're not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 05, 2018, 04:15:33 pm
A new trend. In the past many royal men could not stand their mothers in law.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 05, 2018, 04:43:41 pm
They never had to; usually a royal bride came from across the oceans and even Diana and Fergie's mothers left them well alone when they were married women. People blast Frances, but Frances had her own life and usually it would be considered inappropriate for a MIL to live with her son in law unless the circumstances were unusual (like illness or resulting in extreme isolation) and the whole point of this kind of marriage is to find a bride with family that already has their own lives.

So, essentially if she gets in or not may come down to their willingness to tolerate MILs across the board. In that case, I don't think she'll manage it. I think CM would have moved in long ago if it had been allowed, and were it going to be allowed, I think it likely would have happened on the back of her efforts, irrespective of Meghan's arrival. However, they're not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

I think with Meg and Doria being in control of Harry, it will happen and Kate will use the precedent set by Meg to get Carole in. It is interesting how Meg and Kate are inadvertently helping each other get what they want for themselves and their families. Carole will get in, she has an indomitable will for favors that are bestowed by Will and I do think that after some initial friction, Meg and Kate will in fact start to get along famously once they drop their facades created by PR.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 05, 2018, 05:11:57 pm
It is interesting that, being similar types of women, they are each scoring points off of the other one.

Regarding other Royal MILs, half of the time, most people don't even give a thought to their parents. Do we see Jack's parents around? The Tindalls? I was thinking myself, and I don't think it can be termed a generational shift, merely the preferences of the most prominent members of that generation of the Firm.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 05, 2018, 07:35:17 pm
This is bizarre but the difference with Doria is she is the only family and the Murks has no one in the UK since she is foreign. Peter's wife is at least from a Commonwealth country so there may be more ties. I don't know. But to stabilize her they may let Doria move in with them. My guess is Doria is not a controlling person and stays in the background so she may be fine. I don't know. It is setting precedent they may not want. And true all the in-laws can move in or get a place. I don't see Murks and Kate having much in common as friends but they could get along as relatives.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 06, 2018, 01:49:36 am
Personally, I think Doria is something of an unknown, & I wouldn't put anything past her. I suspect the apple didn't fall too far from the tree in some respects. Then again, I'm an old cynic.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on October 06, 2018, 08:20:51 am
^

Most are astonished that Doria has wriggled in so far considering her (now expunged!) custodial sentence.  In private those close say that QE isn’t at all happy about this but is terrified she will be called racist.  She had therefore had to adopt her default position and bury her head in the sand.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2018, 03:29:11 pm
Wh yis HM so worried about being called bad names? She's Queen of Britain and the Commonwealth and she's afraid of being called bad names in the press?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on October 06, 2018, 04:55:11 pm
I think the ‘being called a rascist’ could make HM feel intimidated.  However, imho I think the term is starting to become overused if someone doesn’t like Old Sparky.  Color doesn’t make most normal people like to dislike someone.  HM needs to take a name calling that might come with her big girl panties on.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2018, 09:53:28 pm
You know, being accused of racism doesn't result in the destruction of one's career as it used to and it takes a LOT to prove racist intent and even that is getting harder. It's not like anyone can yank HM off of her throne over a comment or accusation and HM is letting herself look weak, which is fatal for a monarch/world leader. If I'd been HM and either William or Harry had challenged my authority, I would have downgraded their rank and made sure the public knew why. HM has GOT to stop letting her family run her over all the time and I do think that both princes should have been asked at age eighteen "do you or do you not want to continue as an official member of the royal family?" and presented them with choices:

Either commit to the royal role and sign a contract vowing to do a specified number of engagements per week and put in hours at the other charities that are already established like the Red Cross or Prince's Trust (or any other charities run by senior royals) and adhere to an established code of conduct. Plus no more public whining. They would also have to get an education based on their future role, not their interests.

Or........

Sign a document renouncing one's place in the succession and take an ample settlement and get out and stay out. No more living at the official residences and no more official trips on behalf of established organizations and no more getting into messes and having the palace bail them out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 06, 2018, 10:07:30 pm
^ I totally agree. There should be actual working going on, and all firms should have a) active on the job training b) a system of checks and balances and c) transparency and consequences regarding expectation.

Further, I think that HM could cement her role as The Queen in the memory of the people if she did something to put her foot down in her family. I know her default is position is hands-off, but seriously, can you imagine the shockwaves if she decided to call her family to the carpet and made sure EVERYONE knew it? I think it'd reflect positively upon her.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2018, 10:31:11 pm
HM is hands off on all the wrong things; she wants to meddle in affairs of state in the area of politics and diplomacy (despite not having ANY actual education) and she lets her family cause trouble that will only cause damage in international trade and with her family a mess, it makes her look bad as well. If HM did in fact take control of her family, real control, she would re-earn a lot of respect.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 06, 2018, 11:29:34 pm
The whole family, Harry included, would have been done a great service if more value and emphasis had been placed upon education. No matter what difficulties in the area of learning Harry had or did not have, instilling an expectation and love of learning transcends those difficulties. And anyway, more time in the classroom or learning IRL would have left less time to meet people like his wife, and would have helped him to develop. Still, I'm sure he had millions of opportunities, and at some point, you can only take advantage of them if you choose to.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2018, 11:56:16 pm
If the Queen Mother had been raised to be less of an airhead and more of a realist, she would have done the same with her daughter and I do believe HM failed herself and failed to ensure that Charles was learning what he needed to. For some reason the entire BRF have behaved like lower level gentry instead of royals. Charles II was a fiend when it came to learning and if Harry has learning issues, he could have taken online university courses and studied with tutors inside the palace. If William had taken online coursework plus serving in embassies around the world, I am certain he would be better prepped and more on track. Same with Harry, he should have been educated and trained and forced to stay on some kind of a track.

As for the Markles, I think they're a lot like a lot of lower class families, eager to tear down any one of theirs that rises up and refuses to carry their lazy asses.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 07, 2018, 12:53:49 am
^ Online learning would have opened a whole world up to those boys. In online classes, they could be anybody. They could have gotten into and through a program on the back of their own merit, engaged with people without some of the barriers their position creates, and so many other things. As you say, it would have given them the context to address the unique requirements of educating modern princes to engage on the world stage, and allowed them the flexibility to attend to duties, had they been insisted upon.

But instead, they needed the 'school experience' that was then used to excuse them from any expectation that could prepared them for their duties.

I, too, think Meghan could do with a bit more education before she blathers on about complex sociological issues.

In this, perhaps MM/H are well suited.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on October 07, 2018, 02:37:13 am
Surely educational courses of any kind, whether online or not, if linked to any reputable university or college, would require that the person concerned gave their correct name, address and other details to the authorities? That information would inevitably leak out, IMO, and, knowing what the British tabloids are like, they would be digging and finding out details. Fellow pupils on the course could be harassed.

Going to school and mixing with other pupils and living in a boarding school environment, where to a certain extent, pupils are all subject to the same discipline and routines, is considered very important for young royals and has been since the experiment was first tried with the younger sons of George V.

 Charles and William both went to university and William shared lodgings with friends who were fellow undergraduates. He lived the same kind of lifestyle as his contemporaries, as did Harry at Sandhurst.  If William and Harry had been closeted away at St James during their teens/early 20s doing online courses they would have missed all that interaction with others.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 07, 2018, 03:13:20 am
^ I can only speak to my experiences, both as a graduate student and as staff.

There, students were given user IDs to log onto the online platforms where live classes were held via web conferencing or forums were held, whatever the class required. Typically, sections were capped at a certain number of students but frequently had less.

Theoretically, a student could look up the user ID in the database and see that JB012345 is Mr. Joseph Bloggs of 221C Baker Street, but in the case of students with security risks, their names were left out of the searchable database or a different name was used.

Within the courses, students posted under the assigned user ID, and didn't have to reveal their legal name unless they chose to do so. You are correct, however, that there were always a few people in the administration who knew that Joe Bloggs was Important Whoever. Of course, this only works in online courses that don't require webcam presence. But it has been done by others.

I suppose my point was predicated upon the professionalism of the administration, and was speaking to the actual students in the various classes.

I would also posit that online coursework does not require one to be a hermit. For many people, it is undertaken in connection with interaction with peers and professional engagement. Again, as with all things in life, opportunities are what people make of them.

I also think that they could have been well served by missing some of their chosen interactions with others, especially since a great deal seemed to include hanging around in nightclubs at the expense of their schoolwork and engaging with everything on offer.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 07, 2018, 03:27:46 am
Meghan Markle's sister Samantha kicked out by palace security after arriving unannounced in latest humiliating episode in family feud  :cookie:

After failing to get to speak to her half-sister, Samantha Markle bought masks of Harry and Meghan at a tourist stand
 
Meghan Markle ’s family feud has hit humiliating new heights after her furious sister clashed with security on her doorstep.

Samantha Markle flew to the UK determined to confront her younger sibling after a bitter fall out.

These exclusive pictures show how she arrived uninvited at the home the Duchess of Sussex shares with Prince Harry – but was turned away.

Demanding to see Meghan, the outspoken 53-year-old was then locked in an embarrassing stand off with police guarding the gates of Kensington Palace.

Fuming, she eventually left after handing over a note to an officer.

It was the culmination of a lengthy row, which has been played out in an excruciatingly public way.

Samantha flew in two weeks after palace officials received a letter saying her behaviour would “escalate” if they did not arrange a meeting.

Meghan has been attending an increasing number of public ­engagements and security around her has been beefed up since the row.

Royal aides are now believed to be considering how to respond to the latest in a string of embarrassments which have left Meghan red faced.

The source said: “The ongoing feud between Meghan, her sister and her father has so far been played out in public interviews and communication across the Atlantic via aides and ­representatives.

“This was a huge move on the part of Meghan’s sister to try to see her face to face and the fact she was turned away speaks volumes.

“This is the closest Meghan has come physically to that side of her family since she married into the royal family but palace staff had clearly been instructed not to allow her access.”

In a bizarre moment during her visit 10 days ago, Samantha refused to leave the palace area and instead went on to buy royal merchandise – including Meghan and Harry masks – from a souvenir stand to take back to America.  ??? This happened 10 days ago?  PR stunt as she called Splash News to take the pictures just lize celebrities do who want press attention.

Samantha, who suffers from MS, was accompanied by her partner, who pushed her wheelchair up to the entrance.

But while the guards kept her out, it seems nothing can protect the Royals from the further embarrassment.

But Samantha’s visit brings a new level of embarrassment to the former Suits star. The source added: “It was a scene that will bring huge humiliation for the newlyweds who have not seen Meghan’s father or her siblings since they wed in May.”

Our source told how palace officials received a letter from Samantha’s representatives more than a fortnight ago demanding a meeting.

She gave them an ultimatum – arrange a face to face with Meghan or she would show up at her home.

The source added: “She said words to the effect that if the Palace didn’t do something to help mend the rift now, something may happen to their dad, who is in ill health. The ­suggestion was that if the rift was left unhealed it would be their fault.

“She went to the gates and tried to reason with them. She explained she had been in touch with palace ­officials and claimed they had ignored her advances, leaving her no choice but to arrive uninvited.

“She fully hoped they would let her in but she was turned away. She handed a letter to one of the guards in the hope they would pass it on. It was a sad sight.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markles-sister-samantha-kicked-13374268


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on October 07, 2018, 03:31:14 am
Coursework is very different to living with others in a boarding school and later university/military college environment. Learning how to give and take with other students and with teachers/tutors is part of that process. Being born Royal is to experience life in  a very unique way and the more experience of everyday life that is gained the better. Going to the pub and/or to nightspots in the evenings and especially weekends is part of what many young people in the UK do as a matter of course in their late teens and twenties.

Charles didn't and that wasn't considered particularly unusual by fellow undergraduates in his day. By the time his sons went on to university/Sandhurst however, life was a great deal less formal and refusing to go out to nightclubs and pubs with friends to eat and drink in their leisure time would have been regarded as strange by their contemporaries.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 07, 2018, 03:42:51 am
 I don't know if I agree that having more experiences of everyday life is better on their parts, largely because they seemed to seek out some idealized version of normal at the expense of facing their realities as they progressed through their twenties, but I do agree anyone who didn't socialize would be given the side eye. What is considered weird, at least in my circles, is that they didn't grow up and leave the pub crawls behind. Then again, that's a whole different topic and I don't mean to keep going on. I also agree that I think boarding school was a good thing for them. Anyway, the whole online course discussion is entirely theoretical, even if the 'could have beens' are interesting fodder for good discussions.  I'm sorry I had a big part in dragging things off topic here.

^^That sounds like quite the episode! Whose PR does it best serve to bring the photographers along? It seems...off.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on October 07, 2018, 03:53:26 am
Why would this obvious PR stunt cause 'enormous embarrassment' to Harry and Meghan? It was Samantha who made an idiot out of herself. Gaining entry to the private quarters of members of the BRF by just demanding it? Gimme a break! And I doubt that the Sussexes knew she had even been there until later.

 Samantha took a photographer with her and bought merchandise including marks from a stand! Wow that's very adult of her! She probably hoped that this PR stunt would get into the media before she left the UK, but it didn't. And if this woman thinks that she is ever going to be able to get access anywhere near Meghan in the future without her half-sister's permission then she's even more stupid than I thought she was. She'll probably be banned from entry to  the UK in future on the orders of the Home Office if she keeps this up.  


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2018, 03:59:37 am
Back then, it was considered natural that royals were not like their peer group and it was considered natural that Charles might in fact be a lot more formal and given his nature, reserved and so people just accepted it. These days royals are under a LOT of pressure to be just like everyone, even though they're not.

Charles and William both went to university and William shared lodgings with friends who were fellow undergraduates. He lived the same kind of lifestyle as his contemporaries, as did Harry at Sandhurst.  If William and Harry had been closeted away at St James during their teens/early 20s doing online courses they would have missed all that interaction with others.

They wouldn't be closeted away, they would be on the track their birth set them up for and there's nothing on a uni campus that benefited William. William got caught up in jet setting and partying instead of prepping for a career (duties and military service) and William's degree in geography was a waste since he clearly did not use it and I do believe that uni provided the perfect way for Kate to worm her way into his life. Not all so called 'socialization' is beneficial. It's not like William participated in campus activities, he spent senior year living in a house and with a handful of freeloaders and as for Harry, considering the mess he made of himself, uni would have been best.

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There, students were given user IDs to log onto the online platforms where live classes were held via web conferencing or forums were held, whatever the class required. Typically, sections were capped at a certain number of students but frequently had less.

Theoretically, a student could look up the user ID in the database and see that JB012345 is Mr. Joseph Bloggs of 221C Baker Street, but in the case of students with security risks, their names were left out of the searchable database or a different name was used.

Within the courses, students posted under the assigned user ID, and didn't have to reveal their legal name unless they chose to do so. You are correct, however, that there were always a few people in the administration who knew that Joe Bloggs was Important Whoever. Of course, this only works in online courses that don't require webcam presence. But it has been done by others.

Given that I had to keep quiet about much of my life, I do believe that details of one's address and genuine identity can in fact be concealed at the behest for reasons of security and frankly I do believe that William would have largely been able to live a better, more on track life. He could have done coursework while traveling on tours and between engagements and basically it would have been more realistic.

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I would also posit that online coursework does not require one to be a hermit. For many people, it is undertaken in connection with interaction with peers and professional engagement. Again, as with all things in life, opportunities are what people make of them.

It would have in fact made him more modern and more in touch; it would have encouraged people to both work and go to school and he never would have run into Kate and gotten roped in during a time of transition. He owuild have been on track and life would have gone on and he would have been prepped and seasoned by the time he earned his degree.

Meghan Markle's sister Samantha kicked out by palace security after arriving unannounced in latest humiliating episode in family feud  :cookie:

After failing to get to speak to her half-sister, Samantha Markle bought masks of Harry and Meghan at a tourist stand
 
Meghan Markle ’s family feud has hit humiliating new heights after her furious sister clashed with security on her doorstep.
Samantha Markle flew to the UK determined to confront her younger sibling after a bitter fall out.

These exclusive pictures show how she arrived uninvited at the home the Duchess of Sussex shares with Prince Harry – but was turned away.
Demanding to see Meghan, the outspoken 53-year-old was then locked in an embarrassing stand off with police guarding the gates of Kensington Palace.

Fuming, she eventually left after handing over a note to an officer.

It was the culmination of a lengthy row, which has been played out in an excruciatingly public way.
Samantha flew in two weeks after palace officials received a letter saying her behaviour would “escalate” if they did not arrange a meeting.

Meghan has been attending an increasing number of public ­engagements and security around her has been beefed up since the row.
Royal aides are now believed to be considering how to respond to the latest in a string of embarrassments which have left Meghan red faced.

The source said: “The ongoing feud between Meghan, her sister and her father has so far been played out in public interviews and communication across the Atlantic via aides and ­representatives.
“This was a huge move on the part of Meghan’s sister to try to see her face to face and the fact she was turned away speaks volumes.

“This is the closest Meghan has come physically to that side of her family since she married into the royal family but palace staff had clearly been instructed not to allow her access.”

In a bizarre moment during her visit 10 days ago, Samantha refused to leave the palace area and instead went on to buy royal merchandise – including Meghan and Harry masks – from a souvenir stand to take back to America.  ??? This happened 10 days ago?  PR stunt as she called Splash News to take the pictures just lize celebrities do who want press attention.

Samantha, who suffers from MS, was accompanied by her partner, who pushed her wheelchair up to the entrance.
But while the guards kept her out, it seems nothing can protect the Royals from the further embarrassment.

But Samantha’s visit brings a new level of embarrassment to the former Suits star. The source added: “It was a scene that will bring huge humiliation for the newlyweds who have not seen Meghan’s father or her siblings since they wed in May.”

Our source told how palace officials received a letter from Samantha’s representatives more than a fortnight ago demanding a meeting.
She gave them an ultimatum – arrange a face to face with Meghan or she would show up at her home.

The source added: “She said words to the effect that if the Palace didn’t do something to help mend the rift now, something may happen to their dad, who is in ill health. The ­suggestion was that if the rift was left unhealed it would be their fault.

“She went to the gates and tried to reason with them. She explained she had been in touch with palace ­officials and claimed they had ignored her advances, leaving her no choice but to arrive uninvited.

“She fully hoped they would let her in but she was turned away. She handed a letter to one of the guards in the hope they would pass it on. It was a sad sight.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markles-sister-samantha-kicked-13374268

Ouch; you know, I wonder if something else went down that would cause Samantha to go this far. I mean really, this is taking it to a whole new level.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 07, 2018, 04:04:51 am
^ I almost thought that article was satire. Buying masks?  :laugh: :laugh:

KF, thanks for quoting my posts. You helped to better clarify points I was trying to rather ineffectually make.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on October 07, 2018, 02:45:28 pm
I think Scarole already has a place at KP, wasn't it said that a "granny flat" has been built into 1A? (a small 1-2 bedroom flat withing a flat/ house for visitors, like friends, family, but usually used by parents of the owners, hence "granny flat", sometimes sprogs of those rich people also live in these smaller flats so they have their "own place" but live actually still at home; normal people have this too, usually in the basement, but in huge houses like 1A the "granny flat" can be located anywhere). At least one such flat is built in Clarence House, which is where Harry & Will used to live and later briefly Will & K.

The Midds I believe also still own the London flat all 3 Midd kids used to live in (by now James only, though he's currently working at/ for the Matthews's Glen Affric estate up north), which is likely where Scarole also stays, though Reading is a stone's throw from London.

Should Doria move to London, I have no doubt she'll live in 1 of these 3 possibilities:
1. granny flat within their supposedly alloted apartment at KP (n° 1),
2. a cottage on the KP grounds (Nott Cott once H&M move out?),
3. a flat nearby in Ken
or maybe even
4. another royal residence (St James's?)

After all, if you have pockets deep enough and are insane enough to line the Winds's pockets further, you too can apply to rent a place at KP or another residence!
Apartments there are inhabited by the Winds, staff, and outsiders. So the possibilty of Doria living there is a very good possibility and as I said I think it was said ages ago that the Cambs have a "granny flat" in 1A.

On Sam, her travelling to London and going to KP where she was turned away by police is just a joke and publicity stunt. What was she thinking, that she'd be let in? Haz & Murky are likely at Soho H/ in the Cotswolds anyway, they likely weren't even home!
It would have been spectacular though if she'd camped outside with press(!! for full effect, makes no sense not having press with her in this instance) when everyone knows the dolts are home: the day of an engagement they have, preferably in Ldn so it's sure they are at KP, yelling after them as the cars pass by.

Now there's an idea for you Sam!

I think Thom was paid off, hence the sudden radio silence since ca August.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 07, 2018, 04:00:31 pm
Megan Markle's sister 'is turned away by security at Kensington Palace after arriving uninvited to visit the Duchess of Sussex'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6248931/Megan-Markles-sister-turned-away-security-Kensington-Palace-arriving-uninvited.html
Quick glance at the comments in the DM are sympathetic towards Meghan, siting Samantha as being jelous and mean.  :bored: 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 07, 2018, 09:37:15 pm
Sorry for the double post, but this stunt took place last week Monday when she went on tv to give her groveling interview. She’s in the same clothes that she wore on tv and at the palace.

Meghan Markle’s half-sister Samantha TURNED AWAY from Kensington Palace - 'This was HUGE'
But last Monday during her trip to the UK, Meghan’s half-sister sensationally apologised to the Duchess live on television.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1028151/meghan-markle-news-samantha-markle-kensington-palace

Meghan Markle reveals travel secret about her mother Doria Ragland
Doria once worked as a travel agent, which could be where Meghan picked up her love of travel.
She revealed it during an interview with Allure back in 2014.
“My mom was a travel agent, so off-the-beaten-path travel has always been a big part of my life,” she said.
Meghan also described her as a “free spirit” with “dreadlocks and a nose ring”.
Her mother has had a number of different jobs; she worked as a make-up artist, where she met Meghan’s father Thomas Markle, as well as a mental health social worker.
Doria is currently a yoga instructor living in Los Angeles, although rumours suggest she could soon move to the UK to join her daughter.
https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1026879/meghan-markle-news-doria-ragland-travel-agent
Grifter.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sanka on October 08, 2018, 11:35:21 am
Samantha looks to be in it for the money and publicity. It doesn't take Einstein to realise that she would not be allowed past the gate without formal invitation.

Windsor 2 - thanks for picking up the same clothes she wore on TV and at the palace :)



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on October 08, 2018, 02:48:18 pm
9K comments is too much for this PR stunt and non story especially since M and Tom and Sam and Doria use the same photographer.  Coincidence, I think not.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on October 08, 2018, 02:51:52 pm
^^ Very true, Sam knows full well it's just publicity and she won't get in.

^ That is curious indeed. Too much to be a mere coincidence.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 08, 2018, 03:49:54 pm
I don't think this is the end of Sam by any me means. But they knew Murks was attached to a trash family at least on one side. So they will take it with a grain of salt. Does the British public really care?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 08, 2018, 03:52:12 pm
Sam said it!
“Let’s face it — we all have to survive. Money makes the world go round, so if you want to call that cashing in, that’s fine, but I think no one in media would refuse a paycheck for talking about the royal and, as a family, we’re not subject to royal protocol,” she told Good Morning Britain in July.

It was a pure bs pr stunt as she's not a the palace gates. Te whole family's in on the money making gravy train and I hope that they all get in trouble with the IRS as I'm sure that they're breaking the law doing this as it involves the royal family.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/c0d12025282fdbbeec1fc9dae0fbbc86/tumblr_inline_pg9onlj6MN1vh0s4w_1280.jpg

Source for both: https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com

It's all about the money, nothing more.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2018, 04:00:37 pm
Sorry for the double post, but this stunt took place last week Monday when she went on tv to give her groveling interview. She’s in the same clothes that she wore on tv and at the palace.

Meghan Markle’s half-sister Samantha TURNED AWAY from Kensington Palace - 'This was HUGE'
But last Monday during her trip to the UK, Meghan’s half-sister sensationally apologised to the Duchess live on television.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1028151/meghan-markle-news-samantha-markle-kensington-palace

Meghan Markle reveals travel secret about her mother Doria Ragland
Doria once worked as a travel agent, which could be where Meghan picked up her love of travel.
She revealed it during an interview with Allure back in 2014.
“My mom was a travel agent, so off-the-beaten-path travel has always been a big part of my life,” she said.
Meghan also described her as a “free spirit” with “dreadlocks and a nose ring”.
Her mother has had a number of different jobs; she worked as a make-up artist, where she met Meghan’s father Thomas Markle, as well as a mental health social worker.
Doria is currently a yoga instructor living in Los Angeles, although rumours suggest she could soon move to the UK to join her daughter.
https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1026879/meghan-markle-news-doria-ragland-travel-agent
Grifter.

This really is not fair to the public; already struggling and the BRF just keeps letting in the freeloaders for the public to may even more. It's not fair that so many are doing without the needed essentials while Harry and William marry women who have families that are full blown grifters.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 08, 2018, 04:08:09 pm
On Rememberance Day, 2016, trashy Meg started this mess by going to KP and standing outside the wrong entrance of the palace as she wanted people to believe that she was going back to Notts Cottage with her Whole Foods shopping whilst carrying a bag regarding alieviating poverty.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/db7e25b7c01cdddd3711a5d0d073a7ad/tumblr_inline_pg9oc0neq21vh0s4w_1280.jpg

Source: https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com

Proof again that this chick has never lied with Harry at KP.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: HRHOlya on October 08, 2018, 04:36:07 pm
^ It's been a while since I've been there, but I don't think that's the wrong entrance, it's the one that connects Ken P Gardens Street & KP Gardens, civilians and KP inhabitants alike walk past that gate, only KP inhabitants enter this gate though, the rest who want to go to KP Gardens/ Hyde Park walk past this. This road also leads down to Ken High Street, straight past what was once Bodo's Schloss and is now another party venue, where H used to be a regular.

They are married now, I think it's pretty clear that she was indeed visiting Haz and not just pretending back then. I never believed she pretended that visit. She wouldn't be married to that idiot now had she pulled such a crazy irrational stunt.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 08, 2018, 04:46:13 pm
Sam is all over cashing in on her sister. I know it's about money, but it's weird. This PR cyclone has to die, and at the end of the day, she'll be staring at the ashes of any decency/positive reputation she had and any potential for ongoing dialogue with her sister, which would include rubbing elbows with the BRF.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on October 08, 2018, 05:25:41 pm
^What about the press too? They keep giving Samantha attention and that let's everyone know that they don't have standards anymore either, maybe they never did, but the press is just eager for a story nowadays, no matter how ridiculous, even though they have the moral obligation to ignore such ignorance and move on to other stories.

Its time for the press to focus their attention on the politicians who are hiding in their offices and not doing a darn thing for its citizens both in the United States and United Kingdom, however, I can only speak to the US though.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 08, 2018, 07:24:27 pm
That's a very good point. While they're all lathered up about Sam, are they focusing on the big issues? No.

Further, I can't imagine spending years developing as a journalist to be assigned a story writing about this family drama.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on October 08, 2018, 07:37:49 pm
^ Sam doesn't need dignity to get paid in Big Brother and with MS she's pretty much hooked to the doctor's appointment-exams-pills vicious cycle and whatever she makes it is highly likely going down the medical bills pit.

I do pity the journos who don't get to do real journo work and instead write about cray people doing cray things.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2018, 08:03:34 pm
Sam is all over cashing in on her sister. I know it's about money, but it's weird. This PR cyclone has to die, and at the end of the day, she'll be staring at the ashes of any decency/positive reputation she had and any potential for ongoing dialogue with her sister, which would include rubbing elbows with the BRF.

I think any chance of that is over; Meg has cut her family out in a very cold way and clearly Samantha is aware that she has nothing to lose or gain by doing this. Meg isn't going to give Samantha or her father or her Uncle any chance at renewing ties and she is clearly feeling some kind of perverse anger at her family for not giving her the luxurious upbringing that she felt she deserved while she was struggling as an actress.

It is clear that she blames her family for not keeping her in luxury while she struggled and didn't help her become an A-list star and clearly she views her sister as some kind of 'failure' for not being able to help her in ways that she (Meg) thinks that Samantha should have helped her in. Samantha also is handicapped and that doesn't fit the image of faultless glamor that Meg promotes for herself and feels entitled to. I know there are rotten families out there, but it sounds like Sam has a legitimate reason. Meg has done nothing but bash her family and bash everyone around her who she thinks should have somehow made more of a career for herself happen.

She seems to think that just because she has had a pampered upbringing, that she deserved to have a pampered adulthood while she tried to take herself to a new Hollywood level. Her father doesn't fit her ideal image of an ideal father figure for the level she wants to achieve.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 08, 2018, 08:17:16 pm
Sam did not have to do this. She has everything to lose--she is making herself look certifiable IMO. Or an attention freak.

This is the sledgehammer method of Sam getting in touch with meghan.

I disagree there is no legitimate reason for this. Her disability IMO does offer no excuses.

She may just be a money grubber and maybe she approached Meghan for a hand out (a big handout) and was refused.

I think unfortunately Mr Markle started listening to Sam.

Meghan never publicly bashed her family. If Sam had kept her mouth shut I think she would have been front and center at the wedding. Maybe Meghan was rebuffed.

Sam is not just slamming Meghan but Harry and his family. I notice they did not go out publicly slamming Sam either.

Sam is shooting herself in the foot by the name calling and so on. IMO.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 09, 2018, 03:36:42 am
Meghan Markle’s sister tells DailyMailTV handing a letter to guards at the palace was ‘mission accomplished’ and reveals she used it to plead with Harry’s bride to ‘do the right thing’ and heal rift with their dad
Meghan Markle’s estranged older sister has told DailyMailTV that her trip to London was mission accomplished and that she is sure the Duchess of Sussex has now seen the letter she handed over ‘to set the record straight’.
In an exclusive interview with DailyMailTV, the outspoken former actress denied attempting to demand to see her sister and described the visit to the UK as ‘a wonderful experience’.
She said: ‘I wasn’t trying to crash anything, I’m very polite and respectful. I was not turned away from Kensington Palace. I’m pretty mature, I’m pretty composed, I’m not the kind of person that’s turned away.
‘I was very respectful and I went there to deliver a letter. Nobody was turned away, nobody was disrespectful and it was a wonderful experience. It was a nice experience and nobody was mean to me at all, I was quite surprised.’
Of the letter, she added: ‘I can’t tell you what I wrote in the letter but I think I accomplished my goal and we’ll just have to wait and see how it was received.
‘I wanted to express some sentiments and set some records straight. I can’t give the details of that but I really wanted the world and really my sister and the British Royal family to know what happened and know the truth about a lot of things.’
Although Samantha wouldn’t reveal exactly what was in the note, she did say that much of it concerned their father Thomas Markle Sr. and she says she now hopes it will lead to the pair being reconciled.
‘If she’s not allowed to speak about it because of royal protocol, she has to make it private and she knows where the respect has to come from. She knows the truth and only Meg can make this better.’  :cookie: Shakedown or telling Meghan to call off the scam?
‘With all due respect, I think the next move is not mine, the ball is in my sister’s court and it’s kind of cheesy to minimize it to a tennis game when really, this is life, we’re real people, human beings, real family, real love.
‘It’s not a game but she needs to do the right thing now and she knows how much my dad loves her and has given her.
‘It’s a real family and life is very short so I just hope, for her sake as well, that Meg doesn’t let this go.
‘I was concerned about my father passing away without resolve here because that would be awful for everybody and I really doubt she could live with that. She needs to do the right thing.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6254399/Meghan-Markles-sister-says-handing-letter-guards-palace-gates-mission-accomplished.html
This isn't about her dad as he's had pictures showing that he's fine. This is about the scam that they're all involved in, imo. Meghan's most likely running scared of the tour that she wants to get out of it, so expect this family crap to escalate and to "cause her stress" so, to minimize the distraction, she'll stay away and Harry will do the tour solo, or just stay at the IG. IMO, Mghan has to still be living on her visitor's visa that' due for renewal this month, hence her having articles claiming that she's pregnant and the Marke's acting up again. She knows she'll not be able to get the visa in order to go on this tour that I still think is bogus anyway.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 09, 2018, 03:52:10 am
Sam did not have to do this. She has everything to lose--she is making herself look certifiable IMO. Or an attention freak.
This is the sledgehammer method of Sam getting in touch with meghan.
I disagree there is no legitimate reason for this. Her disability IMO does offer no excuses.
She may just be a money grubber and maybe she approached Meghan for a hand out (a big handout) and was refused.
I think unfortunately Mr Markle started listening to Sam.
Meghan never publicly bashed her family. If Sam had kept her mouth shut I think she would have been front and center at the wedding. Maybe Meghan was rebuffed.
Sam is not just slamming Meghan but Harry and his family. I notice they did not go out publicly slamming Sam either.
Sam is shooting herself in the foot by the name calling and so on. IMO.

I think Sam should be hospitalized, this is crossing a line and now I kind of understand why Meg cut her out.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 09, 2018, 08:18:48 am
This all smells like a whole lot of sympathy PR for Sparkles, and it’s working on one level.  On another, for me, she’s got a lonnng history of cutting people and all of this could have been avoided if she’d been kind to her father in the first place.  Then and only then could I have found a reason to defend her.

I also would like to know a lot more about Doria’s mothering history.  They sure didn’t mind it when Tom Sr was footing the bill and raising an ungrateful child.  Grifters, most of them. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on October 09, 2018, 10:13:33 am
Meghan invited her father Ro her wedding. He was going to give her away. Meghan didn't force him to pose for silly photos for money with a book on England, at a computer, being 'fitted' for a suit etc. Those were Samantha's suggestions. She admitted she set her father up with the photographer.

Tom could have lost a bit of weight for his health's sake and booked himself into hospital for a stent operation a couple of months before the wedding. Instead he waffled and worked himself up into a state. He was first going to the wedding to give his daughter away then he wasn't then he was. There was apparently a heart attack in there, somewhere. None of that was Meghan's doing.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: marion on October 09, 2018, 11:01:12 am
^^ITA The bottom line is murky is an ungrateful user.  Her father probably doesn't fit the iae she wishes to portray now she is a Duchess but despite the title she is still the same underneath the expensive clothes etc.  You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on October 09, 2018, 02:31:00 pm
^Very true.  She will always be the "Ms Bunting" of goodness knows where.  Why doesn’t she fix things up those whom she’s related to?  I can’t work out her stubbornness on this issue.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 09, 2018, 04:51:13 pm
This all smells like a whole lot of sympathy PR for Sparkles, and it’s working on one level.  On another, for me, she’s got a lonnng history of cutting people and all of this could have been avoided if she’d been kind to her father in the first place.  Then and only then could I have found a reason to defend her.

I also would like to know a lot more about Doria’s mothering history.  They sure didn’t mind it when Tom Sr was footing the bill and raising an ungrateful child.  Grifters, most of them. 

That's my thinking on the subject, too. I could also find a reason to defend her actions if there had been some reason--some stated history of abuse, or neglect, or something like that that would explain why she cut her father out. He paid for her education, he worked, he doesn't seem to be to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but that doesn't automatically mean you're a bad parent.

I can understand that sibling dynamics are tough where there is more than a decade between the two. I think Sam needs help. I also think she needs to stop advocating for her father. She doesn't need to be a go-between. Sit down, and let their father and Meghan sort out their own drama. I'm sure none of the dynamics in that family are healthy.

But to me, this looks like a mix of PR and Meghan making sure everyone knows that she's perfectly valid in cutting those people out, even if the whole story is not so clear cut. Relationships are messy. She doesn't have to interact with her family. She's a grown adult. I just think that there's more to the story, and that Meghan always has to be 'the victim' in a situation. Anyway, that mentality is common with people who routinely cut people out of their lives. To try to dialogue or anything, in their minds, would be giving up her status as the wronged party, and it'll snow in Hades before that happens.

I sometimes wonder, one day, if she'll say "The BRF didn't support me in trying to reconcile with my family! They kept us apart! Family comes first, and that's when I knew my marriage to Harry would never last." I've probably been reading too many novels, but I can't help but think no matter what happens, she'll spin all of this how she likes in the end.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 09, 2018, 04:52:28 pm
I think Sam is keeping them apart. She not only calls Meghan names but now the entire royal family is trashed. A stupid move IMO on her part.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 10, 2018, 03:48:26 pm
MM doesn't care about her family now. She has a new fabulous life and they don't fit in except her mom. It is that simple.  I am sure the BRF doesn't want them around either.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 10, 2018, 03:55:55 pm
Sam has made it clear how she feels about Meghan. And now about the royals. I think if she kept her mouth shut she'd have been at that wedding.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 11, 2018, 04:08:35 am
Right on cue, Thomas Markle's in the press talking about something embarrassing.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178926206483/right-on-schedule-tom-markle-the-father
 

No kidding.  :bored:
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/178924222598/ohputting-pieces-together-now


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 11, 2018, 02:54:27 pm
I had a thought maybe Megan is really happy about this since now they get to make money and she doesn't have to pay them any money kind of works out well for all of them


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: CathyJane on October 12, 2018, 03:37:04 am
Sam is all over cashing in on her sister. I know it's about money, but it's weird. This PR cyclone has to die, and at the end of the day, she'll be staring at the ashes of any decency/positive reputation she had and any potential for ongoing dialogue with her sister, which would include rubbing elbows with the BRF.

I think any chance of that is over; Meg has cut her family out in a very cold way and clearly Samantha is aware that she has nothing to lose or gain by doing this. Meg isn't going to give Samantha or her father or her Uncle any chance at renewing ties and she is clearly feeling some kind of perverse anger at her family for not giving her the luxurious upbringing that she felt she deserved while she was struggling as an actress.

It is clear that she blames her family for not keeping her in luxury while she struggled and didn't help her become an A-list star and clearly she views her sister as some kind of 'failure' for not being able to help her in ways that she (Meg) thinks that Samantha should have helped her in. Samantha also is handicapped and that doesn't fit the image of faultless glamor that Meg promotes for herself and feels entitled to. I know there are rotten families out there, but it sounds like Sam has a legitimate reason. Meg has done nothing but bash her family and bash everyone around her who she thinks should have somehow made more of a career for herself happen.

She seems to think that just because she has had a pampered upbringing, that she deserved to have a pampered adulthood while she tried to take herself to a new Hollywood level. Her father doesn't fit her ideal image of an ideal father figure for the level she wants to achieve.

privilege
Who's to say Tom didn't support MEggles when she was a struggling actress? She lies so much it's hard to keep track of everything. She certainly had more chances and privileges than most; it's not her family's fault she's a bad actress.  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 12, 2018, 02:36:40 pm
She does like to keep changing her narrative to suit herself and her aims, that's true. I imagine that alone would be hard on her family. Wouldn't they start questioning their own memories to recall what happened and worry they remembered it incorrectly when she switched it up, again and again? I think I would. I don't mean the ones we know about, I just mean some aunt on the sidelines.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 12, 2018, 05:26:50 pm
'I'm sure that I had an occasional sniff of cocaine': Thomas Markle 'admits dabbling in drugs as he brought Meghan up'
Meghan Markle's father has allegedly admitted he had the 'occasional sniff of cocaine' as he raised the Duchess of Sussex.
According to the National Enquirer, he said: 'In the industry I worked in back in the '70s and '80s there (was) cocaine around a lot.
'And I'm sure that I had an occasional sniff of cocaine.'
A source seemed to back up the alleged admission, telling The Mirror: 'Cocaine was rife in the industry.
'It was a tough business, very tough. Tom endured long unsociable hours. He was at the very top of his game, and the demands on him were great.
'A lot of people on set took coke not just for recreational purposes but to keep them alert and allow them to work long hours.
'Tom was no different. Him saying he took the occasional sniff is conservative at best.
'What I will say though is it never affected his care and love of Meghan.
'She was the most powerful drug he knew. He was addicted to her. Every hour he could spend with away from work he did.'
The alleged admission is sure to heap further embarrassment upon Meghan who has not spoken to her father since before her wedding to Prince Harry in May.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6267631/Thomas-Markle-admits-dabbling-drugs-brought-Meghan-up.html
Comment:
tape, New York, United States, 13 minutes ago
This is reworked news from the old old interview. There hasn't been anything new.

What’s the point of publishing this now unless it gets to Meghan’s drug use.  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 12, 2018, 05:30:05 pm
"'She was the most powerful drug he knew. He was addicted to her.'"

What does that even mean? That's a weird thing to say about somebody's daughter.

Is it just me, or is that creepy? Is it supposed to be commentary on Harry and Meghan?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Rosella on October 12, 2018, 05:54:30 pm
Isn't that a quote from the reading that Beatrice did at the wedding today, a passage from The Great Gatsby by F Scott Fitzgerald? If so I think Eugenie chose it because the narrator speaks in terms of the man of mystery in the novel, Jay Gatsby, having a great air of reassurance in his smile, something that drew people to him. Eugenie felt that about Jack when they first met.  It also describes the addiction Daisy Pickering had for Gatsby. Of course the novel does not end happily!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 12, 2018, 06:09:07 pm
No, I was commenting on the Tom article that Windsor2 shared, not Gatsby. It's comparing MM to cocaine. I could understand it slightly more in romantic relationship, but the article was talking about a father/daughter dynamic and I just thought it strange.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 14, 2018, 06:15:38 pm
The reasoming didn't make sense to begin with, so why post this now and not soon after their leaving was reported.
https://skippyisheretostay.tumblr.com/post/179046966043/i-wonder-how-many-more-clarifications-will-come


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 14, 2018, 07:51:10 pm
Apologize for the double post but I just saw this with Samantha talking to the press again. She's now in Dublin, Ireland Who's paying for her to fly around like this only to tell lies and half truths.  :cookie:

Duchess of Sussex's half-sister Samantha Markle insists their father HAS enjoyed a secret meeting with 'gentlemanly' Prince Harry as she defends his staged paparazzi photos

Samantha Markle has claimed her father Thomas did meet with Prince Harry before the royal wedding despite his insistence they have never spoken face-to-face.

Speaking in a fiery interview with Irish television network RTE, Meghan Markle's half sister said Thomas, 73, who was unable to attend the royal wedding because of an illness, met his son-in-law in the run up to the big day in June.  ??? The wedding was on May 19th though.

However, Thomas Markle himself previously told Good Morning Britain a month after the royal wedding that he had never met the Prince, saying: 'We’ve had interesting conversations on the phone. He’s a smart guy.'

When asked by Ray D'Arcy during Saturday's interview if her father had met Harry, Samantha said: 'Yes he did and I'm not at liberty to discuss the details of that, but they did.'

She claimed that the chat between the pair had been 'Respectful' and 'positive' for both of them and that Harry was 'quite gentlemanly'.

'They did the right thing. When you're going to marry someone's daughter you want to ask appropriately and be respectful, and they both were,' Samantha continued.  :bored:

'The public knew nothing about the meeting.'

Ms Markle did not say where or when the meeting had taken place.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6274941/Duchess-Sussexs-half-sister-Samantha-Markle-insists-father-met-Prince-Harry.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 14, 2018, 08:03:37 pm
^ Why is she not backing her dad? He's said that there was no meeting, and now she's saying there has been one. Strange.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on October 15, 2018, 02:36:49 pm
^  "Strange"  Yes, that sums up the Markle family (including me again) perfectly!


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 15, 2018, 10:01:07 pm
Does it matter? She has no relationship with her family except mom.  One day maybe she will. Right now, she has blown them off.  I guess Harry's comment that they are family she never had is true as hers are erased.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 16, 2018, 04:41:05 pm
Beaming Doria Ragland is spotted in Los Angeles as daughter Meghan Markle and Prince Harry confirm they are expecting a baby
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6280773/Beaming-Doria-Ragland-spotted-Los-Angeles.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 18, 2018, 01:40:46 am
EXCLUSIVE: 'I'm sorry for past misunderstandings - I'm letting everything go.' Samantha Markle tells DailyMailTV she is ending rift with pregnant Meghan and wants her family to do the same
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6287269/Samantha-Markle-says-jumping-joy-Meghan-pregnancy-announcement.html
Meg calling off her family becase she doesn't need them anymore to get her sympathy since she's now 'with child?'  :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 20, 2018, 11:10:47 pm
Thomas Markle: When I heard my daughter Meghan's baby news on the radio, the first thing I thought about was holding her in my arms as a newborn
In his first interview since the pregnancy was announced, Mr Markle, speaking exclusively to The Mail on Sunday, said: ‘I was sitting in line waiting to cross the border when I heard the baby announcement on the car radio.
‘It was in the middle of the night when Meghan was born by caesarean section. Doria [Meghan’s mother] was sleeping [anaesthetised] and so I was the first person in the world to hold Meghan.
‘She’s always been wonderful with children and most of her friends have families so she’s used to being around kids. She will make a fantastic mother.’  :tehe: ignoring them
He and Doria, who is 12 years his junior, raised their daughter in the affluent Los Angeles suburb of Woodland Hills.
Although Mr Markle split with Ms Ragland when Meghan was three, he remained closely involved in his daughter’s upbringing.
‘I would see her all the time. I had her every weekend. We lived close and Meghan went between the two homes very happily.’
Meghan lived full-time with her father from the age of 12 until she was 18.

Mr Markle neither asked for nor received any payment for this interview

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298559/Thomas-Markle-reminisces-holding-newborn-Meghan-arms.html
So much for him not talking to the press.
Will he go into why she was living with him full time from the age of 12-18 and why they had a rift as she said they had in that long video of her in the car with her friend driving around a Hollywood neighborhood?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on October 21, 2018, 12:07:46 am
Wasn’t that the period ie when she was 12-18 when her mother was in prison?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 21, 2018, 01:03:30 am
^it'd be great if that was explained instead of the usually nonsense this family spouts. Hofefully, with Meghan's tour going on in Oz, this family will finally come clean and spill the beans. They will if they're not part of Meghan's scheme.
'Our father's health can't bear this isolation': Meghan's sister Samantha pleads in letter for a reconciliation
Meghan Markle’s half-sister has revealed that the letter she hand-delivered to Kensington Palace begs the Duchess of Sussex to reconcile with their ailing father ‘before it’s too late’.

In the letter, Samantha Markle admits that the family has said some unfavourable things ‘clumsily’, but she adds that she believes the Duchess is ‘gracious and compassionate enough to do the right thing’.

Samantha 53, who suffers from multiple sclerosis and is in a wheelchair, delivered the letter to a gatekeeper at Kensington Palace two weeks ago during a trip to the UK.

Revealing the contents of the letter exclusively to The Mail on Sunday last night, Samantha explained: ‘I know Meghan and I know she has a kind heart.  :cookie:

‘Her rift with our father makes no sense at all.

‘The Palace spin doctors have put out that Meghan feels she can’t trust Dad because of all the stories that have been written about him but Meghan should know better.

While Meghan’s mother Doria was given support – at one point representatives from the British Consulate in LA were photographed visiting her house – Samantha says their father was ‘hung out to dry’ and given no guidance, security protection or advice on how to deal with the ‘deluge’ of attention.  ???

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6298651/Our-fathers-health-bear-isolation-Meghans-sister-Samantha-pleads-letter.html
This family won't shut u. Like Meghan, they love the attention. Maybe they're not taking money for interviews but they're taking free trips to Europe though. Sam hasn't even visited her dad, bu she expects selfish Meghan. :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 21, 2018, 01:08:32 am
oh shut up Samantha and Thomas


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on October 21, 2018, 02:49:40 am
No, they are just reflecting how small, low, and truly ugly MeAgain is as a human being. Pass the popcorn.  :prokates: :interview: :judge:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 21, 2018, 02:09:29 pm
Interesting caveat. 

Quote
Mr Markle neither asked for nor received any payment for this interview.

With those restrictions in play, he can say whatever he likes.  I would really like to know just where Doria was during those teen years.  I’ve never seen a picture of them together then.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2018, 02:55:05 pm
Samantha should help her father by doing an intervention and stopping him from eating greasy food.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 21, 2018, 03:19:23 pm
Maybe they have, maybe he’s watching his health now.  The fact is, we don’t know.  How on earth is this Samantha’s fault? 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on October 21, 2018, 03:27:40 pm
Yeah, men like him are set in their ways. Guess he needs some comfort food - not like his awful excuse of a daughter (MeAgain) brings him any happiness.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 21, 2018, 04:48:26 pm
oh shut up Samantha and Thomas

Why? They have the right to freedom of speech; neither owe silence to the BRF and neither actually owe Meg anything. Thomas did EVERYTHING to make sure Meg had a good start in life and Thomas did EVERYTHING to show love and support as adults should. Just because Meg didn't make it to Hollywood stardom, it does not mean that he loved her less. Just because he wouldn't pay the bills for a luxury lifestyle doesn't mean that she's somehow less loved by him. As for Samantha, I think she's deeply disturbed and unhappy (who wouldn't be because of her chronic illness) and I just believe she is unhappy with much of her life.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Demeter on October 21, 2018, 06:49:42 pm
^ I don't blame her antics on her health. There are many people with MS who don't go absolutely bananas on the world stage. I think there's more to it, though it is entirely possible for SM to resent MM for being abled. 

I think her unhappiness stems largely on how it must have been in the family. Meghan certainly was a coddled child, offered things and opportunities that it does not appear Sam had herself. I think there is no small amount of resentment on her part that her father loved MM 'more.' I think a lot of this, aside from the obvious money-grubbing and attention-seeking, is the attempt to prove herself to be the 'better' daughter. The average person, disabled or not disabled, would have eventually grown up and realized she can't make MM be a better daughter, or have more value to her father herself through reconciling MM to TM.




Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Snowpea on October 21, 2018, 06:56:48 pm
^ I don't blame her antics on her health. There are many people with MS who don't go absolutely bananas on the world stage. I think there's more to it, though it is entirely possible for SM to resent MM for being abled. 

I think her unhappiness stems largely on how it must have been in the family. Meghan certainly was a coddled child, offered things and opportunities that it does not appear Sam had herself. I think there is no small amount of resentment on her part that her father loved MM 'more.' I think a lot of this, aside from the obvious money-grubbing and attention-seeking, is the attempt to prove herself to be the 'better' daughter. The average person, disabled or not disabled, would have eventually grown up and realized she can't make MM be a better daughter, or have more value to her father herself through reconciling MM to TM.




Yet look at the daughter who is "there". Think she was the very pampered, spoiled baby who never got over herself. Rotten to the core.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 21, 2018, 10:08:00 pm
Maybe they have, maybe he’s watching his health now.  The fact is, we don’t know.  How on earth is this Samantha’s fault? 

Not saying it's her fault. Her father is stubborn.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on October 22, 2018, 08:52:53 am
^ Stubborn for not shutting up forever after the child he pampered from the craddle discarded him like a bag of old potatoes? Yeah, seems pretty unfair to M that she paid off her exes but not her dad to shut up so that she can try to gaslight people in social media age that she's a decent woman with qualities.

Good for papa Markle. Let him show how the oh so self-important daughter of his can wear 10K clothes per day but can't spend $500 to go see him or fly him in, or $0 to call on whatsapp.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2018, 01:47:24 pm
Stubborn because he is still eating greasy food despite the health issues.

He seems hostile to Meghan and is getting paid by the media.

By stubborn I did mean about eating healthy diet and taking care of himself.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 22, 2018, 02:11:50 pm
It states, very clearly, that Tom Sr was not being paid nor received anything to speak to the media, which he is completely allowed to do.  As a new grandfather-to-be, who is excited at the prospect yet treated like he doesn’t exist, I don’t blame him.   And we really don’t know what the man is eating which is his own and his physician’s dang business.

He has really, among all these goofballs, been treated horribly.  I can only imagine the sob story Sparkles has laid out for sympathy.  He may not be perfect but he is her father and deserves respect.  She really showed her true colors with this, I believe, with that “family I never had” remark that must have stung.  Some humanitarian.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2018, 02:41:39 pm
I think there is money involved. But that's my take on it. Who states this? He has gone to different places and was on television. Different media outlets have their own policies.

If he did not go to the media and say unpleasant things, I think this would not have been an issue.

I think family members would care about him if was clogging his arteries with bad food.

Meghan had not commented publicly on this. It is not known how she thinks or feels.

There is much dysfunction and I don't think it all should be blamed on Meghan. I think her family contributed to this awful situation by going to the media.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 22, 2018, 02:52:40 pm
The article in question states it right there, at the end that no money or anything was exchanged for this interview.  Check it out. 

Sparkles actions speak much louder than words and it's not loving, kind nor generous (and I don't mean money).  Harry didn't dream up the "family she never had" cruel remark.  She said it.

Who says the family doesn't care what he eats?  That's his business anyway.

Tom Markle is, again, an American citizen who is protected by the Bill of Rights to say, do or be whatever he wants to and owes no allegiance to the Crown in any way, shape or form.  He is her father.  And one who worked hard to support this spoiled ungrateful and ambitious brat the best he could


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on October 22, 2018, 03:02:04 pm
^ I missed the link with PH and the line "the BRF is the family she never had". Does anyone happen to have it handy?  :flower:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2018, 03:12:23 pm
The article in question states it right there, at the end that no money or anything was exchanged for this interview.  Check it out. 

Sparkles actions speak much louder than words and it's not loving, kind nor generous (and I don't mean money).  Harry didn't dream up the "family she never had" cruel remark.  She said it.

Who says the family doesn't care what he eats?  That's his business anyway.

Tom Markle is, again, an American citizen who is protected by the Bill of Rights to say, do or be whatever he wants to and owes no allegiance to the Crown in any way, shape or form.  He is her father.  And one who worked hard to support this spoiled ungrateful and ambitious brat the best he could

Did they swear in court no money was exchanged. Maybe it was more barter--giving him perks like free trips and gifts without it being technically money. There are loopholes.

Tom Markle can talk now until doomsday but I think it is not productive, just creates more dissension.

There are two sides to everything. I still don't blame it all on Meghan.

Parents are obligated to support their children. If he didn't Meghan would have been taken away from him.

The food may be his business but family members don't like to watch someone doing something to ruin his health.

Harry made that remark publicly not Meghan.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes and below the surface of all this.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 22, 2018, 03:14:35 pm
It never ceases to amaze me that anybody cares about that Markle family


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2018, 03:15:37 pm
I think down the road everybody will apologize and hopefully this can move on.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 22, 2018, 03:26:04 pm
^ I missed the link with PH and the line "the BRF is the family she never had". Does anyone happen to have it handy?  :flower:

Here ya go.  Sandy's correct that Harry broadcast it to the whole world but he clearly says, "y'know, she said, the family she's never had".  There's no way he's clever enough to dream it up and, if I recall, she included it in her Christmas toast or speech or whatever she did to draw attention to herself.

https://youtu.be/NXgwsaQiz1w (https://youtu.be/NXgwsaQiz1w)


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 22, 2018, 03:27:59 pm
^ Everything is designed to draw attention to the rapidly, unattractively aging Hollywood Z-lister.

Pass the popcorn.

 :James:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: AnaBolena on October 22, 2018, 04:35:24 pm
She was the Golden Child.  Google what happens to the Golden Child in a dysfunctional family, if you don’t already know  :cookie:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: deGuernsey on October 22, 2018, 04:51:17 pm
^^^  :thankyou:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 22, 2018, 05:05:38 pm
Thomas Markle steps out in Mexico after revealing he heard about his grandchild on the radio during Meghan's tour of Australia
Mr Markle, 74, was snapped at his home in the beach town of Rosarito, Mexico over the weekend as the Duchess of Sussex carried out royal duties half the world away in Australia.

He was spotted getting out of a battered Volvo saloon car and entering his cliff-top residence in the coastal resort on Saturday wearing black jeans and a grey shirt.

Mr Markle is yet to meet his son-in-law.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6303195/Thomas-Markle-steps-Mexico-revealing-heard-granddaughter-radio.html
 :bored:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Cali San D on October 22, 2018, 06:19:46 pm
I hope their son looks just like grandpa Thomas!  :laugh: Just like Prince George looks like Michael Middleton!  :laugh:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 22, 2018, 06:24:05 pm
What if it's a girl?


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: BostonLibby on October 22, 2018, 06:26:52 pm
She could look like Grandpa Thomas. 


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Kins on October 22, 2018, 06:29:56 pm
Or Samantha  :tehe:


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on October 22, 2018, 09:05:38 pm
A mashup between Samantha and Doria's nose, the one M changed to start passing. That would be a lovely lesson in karma.



Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 23, 2018, 01:23:08 am
Thomas Markle is spotted running errands in his Mexican hometown after revealing his elation at daughter Meghan's pregnancy news
Thomas Markle was seen in Rosarito, Mexico, running errands Monday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6304929/PICTURED-Thomas-Markle-runs-errands-Mexico-following-news-Meghans-pregnancy.html
Same old crap. The DM must be expecting some breaking news and that’s why they keep Thomas in the press.
There’s a video of Meghan, in that horrible see through dress, and Harry walking along the pier on Fraser Island. She really is an attention seeking......


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on October 23, 2018, 07:53:56 am
^^^^^

Samantha also knows the real MM and must feel very frustrated and resentful at what she has achieved by sheer cunning and determination plus using her acting skills.  She has been trying to show this to the world.  Their father has done so much for MM especially taking on the role of mother and father whilst Doria was in prison for several years.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 23, 2018, 02:11:17 pm
Sammy is way older than Meghan. they were not sisters close in age. I wonder what the root cause of this feud is?

I read nothing of Doria being in prison. Certainly there would be records of this and parole records, et al.

Tom had to take care of his daughter. That is what parents are supposed to do. If he didn't she'd be taken away from him.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Ariel on October 23, 2018, 04:59:11 pm
^ There are records. People who have background checked Doria have seen that there's expunged record of her being in prison.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 23, 2018, 05:54:39 pm
I bet she was in the nick because of Thomas raising Meghan when she was 12-18. Those a very vulnerable years that a mother needs to be with her daughter, but Doria wasn’t.

The family’s using the same photo agency now; Backgrid.
While Meghan's away! Doria Ragland is spotted in Los Angeles again as her pregnant daughter continues a 16-day tour with Prince Harry and touches down in Fiji
Meghan Markle's mother was seen out and about on Monday as she headed to a business meeting.
Speculation regarding the couple's first child has been rampant since Ragland was seen taking baby care classes in Pasadena last month.
And it has also been reported that Ragland is considering moving to London because Meghan may not want to hire a nanny.   
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6305945/Doria-Ragland-spotted-Los-Angeles-amid-Meghan-Markles-tour-Prince-Harry.html


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 23, 2018, 06:05:26 pm
I said the mom will end up taking care of the kid.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 23, 2018, 06:20:50 pm
They have nannies. I think there will be one for the baby.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 23, 2018, 07:40:00 pm
Okay the mom will end up taking care of the child with the help of the nanny. Same thing really. MM will need step in people and mom's are the best.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Val on October 24, 2018, 10:10:04 am
The years in prison were allegedly due to cocaine which were  said to be documented on the expunged records.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 24, 2018, 03:36:34 pm
 I don't know when she came to LA County but she has no felony record in Los Angeles county. So unless this is some other county or state that she was convicted of felony cocaine use or sales-this is all hearsay and very well may not be true.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 24, 2018, 03:52:26 pm
^ But what is true is that Doria was gone from Megsy's life for six years.   Six years.  A loving mother does not disappear from her child's life for such a long period of time [or any time] without there being some extenuating circumstances.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 24, 2018, 04:04:59 pm
That is true but it could be shewas ill or mental and in some hospital. I don't know how everybody knows she was gone for six years


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: windsor2 on October 24, 2018, 08:24:32 pm
'Dad paid for her tuition!': Samantha Markle calls her sister 'delusional' and 'lying' after Meghan described her struggles to pay for university education in Fiji speech
Samantha Markle has branded her sister a 'liar' after she gave a speech about the difficulties of paying to go to university - saying their father paid for her tuition.
Meghan, 37, gave her first speech as a member of the royal family at the University of the South Pacific's Suva campus in Fiji today.
She discussed the challenges of funding further education, saying she relied on 'scholarships and financial aid programmes' to get through her university degree.
But her half-sister, 53, quickly took to Twitter to brand her 'delusional' and a 'liar', saying she 'missed out a very important detail' in her speech.
She wrote: 'Dad paid her college tuition! She forgot the most important part of her speech and there are receipts to prove it.
'I love my sister but this is ridiculous. You can't lie like this, Meg! Delusionally absurd.'
The Duchess of Sussex said to students and staff: 'I am also fully aware of the challenges of being able to afford this level of schooling for many people around the world – myself included.
'It was through scholarships, financial aid programmes and work-study where my earnings from a job on campus went directly towards my tuition - that I was able to attend university. And, without question, it was worth every effort.'
But Samantha is adamant their father Thomas Markle, 74, paid for Meghan to go to university.
In an interview with the Mail on Sunday, he told of how Meghan was sent to exclusive private schools from kindergarten onwards and he paid for her $30,000 (£23,000)-a-year tuition at Northwestern University, Illinois, with $750,000 winnings from a lottery.
He claims he funded a teenage Meghan's expensive holidays abroad, including a visit to Britain, where she was photographed outside Buckingham Palace.
Mr Markle described himself as a a proud man, who has never asked his daughter for a penny, despite suffering financial setbacks over the years and losing the vast majority of his lottery winnings in a bad business deal.
But Meghan gave a different impression in her speech: ''As a university graduate, I know the personal feeling of pride and excitement that comes with attending university.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6312723/Samantha-Markle-accuses-Meghan-lying-speech-university-saying-father-paid-tuition.html
Meghan’s lies are catching up with her. She claims to have paid her own way through college and that she graduated. In this instance, Samantha has every right to complain on social media because Meghan’s a liar and a kept woman who relies on a man to pay her way in some form or another.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2018, 09:19:57 pm
Meghan's finances have not been revealed.

That said. I think this is hurting Samantha the most. she should let go of the bitterness, she got her message through. She needs to resume her own life and take care of herself.

Many parents pay tuitions or help out. If Meghan repaid some of the expenses it may or may not be revealed.

If she were running for office here in the US it would be a requirement for her to release her finances. She's in a different situation than a US politician is.

If Sam loved her sister she would not run to the media. Meg is a lot younger than Sam and I don't know how much she really knows.

If she worked on campus, there are work study arrangements which reduce the tuition amount.

Sam can do whatever she pleases but I think if she keeps this up she will be ignored and her 15 mins will be up..

Meghan did earn her own money. She was not a "kept woman" but a wife and later a live in partner. But she did work for a living.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: lesken on October 24, 2018, 09:37:24 pm
It is probably a little bit of both if she worked at school that can help pay for part of your tuition because that happened with my niece at USC. My brother paid her full tuition but when my sister started working there they gave all the money back for that year and she had it free on words but my brother could afford to pay for her. So maybe Merkel paid some of it and because she work there and got part of the tuition off and maybe because she always plays the race card she got a minority grant. Again it may be partly true that she got some help other than her dad I mean


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: YooperModerator on October 24, 2018, 10:00:14 pm
There isn’t a chance on earth that MM paid or worked for anything at NW.  Samantha’s right.  Her dad funded everything.  As a matter of fact, MM even bragged that she was a Trust Fund baby in LA.  Everybody there knows what she is and are having quite the laugh at her “performances”.  Liar.  Pure and simple.


Title: Re: The Markles
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2018, 10:05:34 pm
Samantha I doubt stuck her nose into her much younger 1/2 sister's tuition bills. I don't know of any families whose siblings pored through the Uni statements. Also there is work study, I know of people who got a reduced tuition because they did work study and as graduate students got assistantships and had lower tuition costs. These assistantships and work study are very sought after. Students get experience and some lower tuition costs. It is win win situation.

I don't think anything Samantha says can be taken as gospel. I doubt Meghan will dig out the receipts to "prove" things. Sam is making herself look worse than Meghan.

IMO.

How is it assumed Meghan is a "liar". If she paid her dad back, how on earth would Sam get  hold of the records? NO way would Meghan share them with her vindictive sister.

 Samantha is