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Title: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 29, 2017, 01:38:54 pm
Happy posting  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 29, 2017, 02:21:28 pm
^That'll be the day with these two.  But, the first thread is locked, please continue here.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 29, 2017, 02:33:50 pm
https://twitter.com/GeoffRobinson49/status/945354427258560513

Meggles looks so bad, she makes Kate look good.  What a look on Megs' face . . . .the ridiculous hat, the messy hair, the bulky coat, hanging on to Harry as if the wind will lift him off if she doesn't hold him down . . . .  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on December 29, 2017, 02:40:20 pm
Meghan is a private citizen, and will be until May 19th 2018. Sophie worked through her engagement. She ran RJH Public Relations, a firm she began with a partner in 1996. That ended in 2002. (Sophie married in June 1999.) She lived with Edward in his rooms at BP for at least part of the time and had a Royal protection officer. So did Fergie, who worked for BCK Graphic Art publications in London for part of her engagement, a job she'd had since 1984.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 29, 2017, 02:52:07 pm
Sophie and Sarah worked for businesses in London.  Meggles was an actress in a lightweight role.   What could she possible continue to do along those lines that would not bring embarrassment to the queen?  I doubt the Royal Shakespeare Theatre would be interested in giving her an audition.  They -- unlike Harry -- have standards.   


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on December 29, 2017, 04:00:32 pm
As long as she’s being funded by the British public in any capacity while being unelected she is NOT a private citizen.

^ Exactly. She’s not actually qualified to do anything. She has no real experience, outside of acting, that anyone with half a brain would take seriously and even the acting is bottom of the barrel. Her “working” would lead to nonsense. In fact, even Sophie took a left turn.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 29, 2017, 04:28:05 pm
M isn't entirely a private citizen anymore. Diana's first RPO told her the evening before the official engagement interview (and when the news broke) that this is her last evening in private, after that it's over with the private life (and to enjoy it because from tomorrow on there'd be no freedom anymore ever, sth along these lines). I guess you can say the engagement time is being inbetween private citizen and official rf member. She has her taxpayer funded RPOs, as every royal bride-to-be has had, and has stopped working or would be phasing out of work at this point.
M has stopped working, had her first engagement, did Xmas with the Winds, and as said has her RPOs, so at this point I don't consider her a private citizen anymore.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 06:33:34 pm
Is MM a private citizen or not? Is she in the twilight zone of this? Probably. BUT WAIT ALL....  She is not a British citizen on any level now. She is a American citizen trying to get a visa so she can marry a British citizen who is related to the Monarch. (Is the Queen considered a citizen or above that in the UK.) Oh now we got it. So the question is ... Is she a private person or not. Well in the US, she can't sue for any Invasion of Privacy that goes under the category public personality as opposed to me who is not one. I can sue for release of photos, etc. that interfere with my privacy. I imagine it is similar in the UK. But she has U.S. Constitutional Rights as an American citizen and I assume she has whatever rights the UK affords to its visa seeking residence persons who intend to become UK citizens. She will never be a "private" person again nor does she want to be.  So, where does that leave her? She has the right to leave the UK to do films or whatever. Will Harry stay by her side if she does, yes. Will the Queen be amused..No. Will  "the Firm" put pressure to stop... I'd say yes for now. But things change and she is keeping her door open.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 29, 2017, 06:38:34 pm
Liz is above everyone else in Britain, as she's the only person in Britain who officially doesn't need (and likely doesn't have) a passport to travel the world. Very strange to me. She also doesn't have a driver's license and I don't know whether she needs one officially. She drives on private roads mostly where no one needs a license, but beyond that I wonder....
I could well imagine that Phil, Liz's kids and grandkids have diplomatic passports. Would love to know that one...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 06:59:54 pm
MM was raised in a country where no one is above the law and we all have equal rights. ( I know money buys some people out of things) But in theory, this is what we stand for. The fact the Queen doesn't need a passport or driver's license is strange to me. She is just a human. But when the novelty and glitz wears off and MM is used to being royal, she will want her rights and her way. She may be educated now on the monarchy in the UK, but she doesn't really hold it in her heart or she would not be such a bleeding heart liberal. So when she gets comfortable and secure in her position, she will consider herself equal as a person, at least in her pursuing her endeavors.  And she will try to do them. This is not true for those spouses raised in the UK or Europe and the Commonwealth countries which is everyone else in the family. I believe that they understand and accept the monarchy rules as they were raised that way.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on December 29, 2017, 07:09:52 pm
MM has intentionally sought out the press for interviews etc, has endorsed products, starred in a tv series, claimed, in public, a famous VIP is her boyfriend and has made herself available to the media for personal and professional advancement. She also stood in the sunken garden and showed off an engagement ring from the famous VIP. And then there are her blogs, IG, social media all geared to make her more money and more fame. She is not a private citizen and hasn't been one for years by her own choice. Who is saying she is a private citizen? I am confused.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 29, 2017, 07:34:43 pm
^The only people saying she's a private citizen are those defending her every move. The second she hitched her wagon to Harry's she became the property of the people. Just as she's been quick to accept the perks of that choice, she must accept the bad and ugly that come along with it too. No crying privacy when the crap hits the fan and the criticism comes calling.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 08:03:48 pm
MM does not want to be a private person. She wants her cake and eat it too. She wants to be public the way, American celebrities are public. They do what they want as long as they don't break the law in the US. (Can't say if that is true in other countries because I don't know. I know here because my Office has prosecuted many celebrities and some get convicted.) When she gets itchy for more freedom down the line, that is when you will see the roller coaster in full speed. And the thing is now that she is trying to tow the line, I think to make sure she gets in, there is semi-scandals going on or negativity from the various comments I've seen on the articles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on December 29, 2017, 08:40:52 pm
^The only people saying she's a private citizen are those defending her every move. The second she hitched her wagon to Harry's she became the property of the people. Just as she's been quick to accept the perks of that choice, she must accept the bad and ugly that come along with it too. No crying privacy when the crap hits the fan and the criticism comes calling.
 I can just smell the desperation.   :ick:   Usually when someone has to try this hard to make someone acceptable or to happen they are usually not. Weak.  :thumbsdown: :bored: Ans I'm still not drinking the kool-aid.

PS I don't know where to find this on the forum but has anyone else read Archduchess Gabriella just gave birth to a child and became engaged to the father of her child in October?  Jajaja... congrats but I bet MMarkle couldn't pull THAT ONE off!!! Although she could always try if things go south rather sooner than later.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 29, 2017, 08:48:54 pm
Gossip Cop says No Way was Meggles every in the running to be a Bond girl . . .

https://www.gossipcop.com/meghan-markle-bond-girl-james-007-role/



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 29, 2017, 09:01:04 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle's father is 'extremely hurt' by Prince Harry's claim the royals are 'the family she never had,' reveals her brother who says: 'We were as close as could be'

    Thomas Markle Jr, 51, of Grants Pass, Oregon has slammed Prince Harry's claim that the Royals are 'the family Meghan never had'
    Meghan's half-brother told DailyMail.com: 'Obviously, she had a family. She was very privileged. She got everything she ever wanted.'
    Harry made the statement on the BBC on Wednesday when he dished about the couple's Christmas holiday together in Sandringham, Norfolk
    His comments, however, sparked controversy causing members of Markle's family to speak out, including her estranged half-sister Samantha Markle
    Markle Jr added that Harry's comments were sure to upset their father, Thomas, 73, who he says 'made sure she had what she needed to be successful'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5221279/Meghan-Markles-dad-extremely-hurt-Harrys-comments.html

Harry will be very popular at the Markles family reunions. :bored:

PS A comment from the above article:
"harry blew it the minute he met her- his image has imploded ever since they got involved"
Can't say I disagree with this. He does seem to have turned a new leaf since meeting her..  ???


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on December 29, 2017, 09:09:06 pm
The impending nuptials are going to be such fun


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 29, 2017, 10:00:25 pm
Well, well, well, isn’t all this just so lovely. 

How many idiotic and embarrassing or outright falsehoods are we up to now?  Quite a few since that cringeworthy engagement interview.

From the “I just wanted to know if he was kind” to not knowing “much” about tabloid journalism or PH to broochgate to the dogs to her dumped friends, ex live-in boyfriend, husband, uncertain religious commitments, and now her own family who sacrificed to put her through private schools, college, acting classes?

She’s a peach, she is.

Btw, heard from CA and the Bond movie role is quite the laugh among former colleagues and employers.  Completely untrue, never happened.  In fact, there is hope that she will finally be exposed for the grasping, heartless user everyone knows all too well.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 29, 2017, 10:18:47 pm
 her family is the gift that keeps on giving. more and more her family side of the wedding will be filled with just friends +mom. don't know who is worse sam or tom


Meghan's New Year's resolutions: Prince Harry's fiancée reveals her vow to become more 'ladylike' by giving up bad habits such as SWEARING after a few drinks and nail-biting

As well as planning the wedding of the year, Meghan Markle is busily preparing for life as a working royal - so it's no surprise that the bride-to-be has some New Year's resolutions to help her slide seamlessly into her new official role.

Writing on her now defunct lifestyle blog, The Tig, in 2016, the former Suits star revealed that she makes the same resolutions every year, including becoming more 'ladylike'.  

Listing her intentions, the 36-year-old wrote: 'Stop biting my nails. Stop swearing. These make my New Year's resolution list nearly (AKA actually every) single year.

'The swearing comes in lulls triggered by being overworked or feeling mighty cheeky after a couple drinks.

'And when it comes to the biting of the nails – well, it still happens with a turbulent flight or a stressful day.

'It's unladylike. But then again, so is the swearing. Dammit.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5220247/Meghan-Markle-reveals-New-Years-resolutions.html


UM the BRF swears a lot and harry bites his nails so she will fit right in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 10:21:32 pm
Like I said earlier he sure bought one. I stand corrected on my past comments that this isn't such a big deal that Harry said the royal family was the family she never had.  It is insulting to them. I think she has dissed that family a long time ago and so she really hasn't had a family but that is her own choosing. She's not a little orphan Sparkles. Hey Little Orphan Sparkles and Hollywood Harry we could start a comic strip.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 29, 2017, 10:34:50 pm
The thing is, it not only insults his proposed new in-laws, it insults every working family that’s not a royal one.  It implies that his privileged family is somehow superior to everyone’s. 

But!  I would’ve let that go because he’s an idiot and kept eye rolling over this disaster. He really stepped in it with me by doubling down with that odious KP statement.  That was a no turning back point because he tantrummed right on instead of qualifying it with a kind understanding of her family. 

I’ve heard mention that he parroted MM’s statement at the Christmas party which makes it even worse.  He believes this crapola because he doesn’t know her family which is the stupidest thing ever.

What she meant was, “This is the richest family I never had.” 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 11:06:37 pm
Ditto


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 30, 2017, 12:00:13 am
Whenever Sam says anything, I usually take it with a grain of salt. We're pretty aware that she has an agenda. On the other hand, I believe Tom, Jr.'s statement is as authentic as it gets. From looking at the video, it looks like they caught the poor guy while he was taking the trash out or something. It's not like he was looking for attention.

Sparkles is the baby of the family. There's a good 15-20 year age gap between her and the older siblings. Having a sibling that's 20 years younger than me, I can tell you that my parents were in a much better position financially and were in a much different mindset (read: spoil the kid on the same level a grandparent would) when the youngest came along. I'm not saying anything is wrong with that and there's absolutely no resentment but, having lived it myself, my money is on Tom telling the truth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on December 30, 2017, 01:43:37 am
It's noticeable that Tom Jnr says 'WOULD be shocked' when speaking about his father's possible reaction to Harry's statement. That's because it's clear from other family members disclosures that it was a huge row between Tom Snr and himself several years ago that split this fractured family wide apart.

Has Tom Jnr spoken to his father in the last 24 hours about his 'shock'? It wouldn't appear so, and the only people who have said anything about what Harry said in the last day or so have been Meghan's unstable sister and this half brother.

Look, I don't doubt that many years ago, there was contact and there were get togethers between the various family members. But that was many years ago obviously, as the only photos we have seen that were given/sold to the Fail and others show a very young Meghan. There's been very minimal contact since. Samantha herself has admitted that she has not spoken face to face with Meghan for many years. 

We don't know what has been said between Harry, Meghan and her parents in the last day or so. There have probably been phone calls. We don't know because the parents don't talk publicly. And every time the estranged members come out and say anything it just exposes a little more just how fractured the Markle side of the family is.

And what business is it of British tabloids anyway? We know they love dirt, and Tom jnrs mild response must have been a huge disappointment really. They were probably hoping for a rant, Samantha style.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 30, 2017, 02:20:56 am
Harry made it everyone’s business.  And in the most damaging way possible.  He made it personal and hurt people needlessly. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on December 30, 2017, 02:52:14 am
But Yooper, that doesn't make it OK surely for British tabloids to go sniffing around those relatives that can be found, looking for a reaction, preferably a dramatic one. It's pretty clear that the Markles are a clan riven by hurts and old quarrels and divorces. All of that happened long before Harry met Meghan.

And if Tom Snr is hurt, and we don't know whether he is and we don't know whether he's spoken to Meghan and Harry, that's surely for Tom and Doria and their daughter to sort out, not for Samantha (who hasn't spoken to Meghan for years) to come rushing in giving her point of view, or for newspapers to try and inflame things even more.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 30, 2017, 03:06:28 am
The entire Markle family who are US citizens can say whatever the blazes they like.  It is Harry, fed by Meghan, who let this cat out of the bag.  No one else.  If a brother or sister is hurt they have every right in the world to come to the defense of their parents and if the media is how they choose to do it, that is their right.

Harry and Meghan have this coming to them.  It's disrespectful, immature, delusional, hurtful and shows a clear lack of knowing diddly squat about the family of the manipulative female he is about to join with for life.  He's shown he is only listening to her and that makes him an utter fool.

Expect a lot more of this to come because I guarantee you full-scale drama and victimized is Sparkles stock in trade.  She's loving this and couldn't care who gets damaged in the process.  Harry, I must say, is somewhat of a willing victim here but that's his problem.

What exactly is the media supposed to do?  Live in a world where the BRF are protected and that this isn't news? Go back to the turn of the century?  It is news.  And, again, it's Harry's fault, not the media, not the sister, not the brother, nobody else's.  They have every right in the world to call bs on her fairy tales.

If nothing else, the taxpayer has a right to know what they're funding.  Any political figure who pulled this stunt would be treated the same way.  A careless, heartless person should be expose before taking one dime of the public's money or representation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on December 30, 2017, 04:16:19 am
^ITA. She'll end up alone though since this wont go to a marriage, imo. Harry's throwing her under the bus and she's stupid enough not to see what she's loosing in the process. Someone who has this much negativity form the people and even the press would be detrimental to to the monarchy. Something's not right about the engagement and everything that's come out afterwards and I think Harry wasn't talking about a surprise during the radio interview that has nothing to do with if Obama's invited or not, imo. Now Meghan's being played off against her family and I exspect her scheming friends, Jess, her so called stylist, and Markus should be next. She's ruined her life for nothing because Harry will be ok at the end of this mess. Since he looks like he's truly stressed out, I hope that this gets resolved, her booted, very soon.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Stargazer on December 30, 2017, 05:55:42 am
Meg’s step mum is making a bit more sense. I have a friend from divorced parents and I know she finds it difficult navigating the family dynamics at Christmas even though they live in the same city. It’s a shame that Harry didn’t think before blurting about her family. He’s probably trying to counter the frosty image of the royals without thinking of the consequences of what he said.

I wonder if HM has broken tradition and invited Meg to give her a taste of what it is like dealing with press, gossip and family before they get married. Baptism of fire if you like. Gives her time to back out before the wedding!

Roslyn Markle — who was married to Meghan’s dad Tom Sr. in the 1960s before marrying her mom Doria — told Radardistance was the reason for Meghan’s estrangement from her children (Meghan’s half-siblings) Samantha and Tom Jr.

As readers know, drama of a family rift unfolded after Prince Harry told Radio 4listeners that the royals were like the family Meghan never had.

“The aunts and uncles and the cousins in the Markle family were hundreds and thousands of miles apart,” Roslyn revealed. “So there wasn’t a lot of the Markle family presence all the time.”

https://radaronline.com/videos/meghan-markle-family-estranged-harry-stepmom-truth-sister/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Val on December 30, 2017, 08:32:16 am
Spot on response re Sparkle the soup kitchen saint

WHATAMESSWEREIN, Abridge, United Kingdom, 23 minutes ago
First we had loud & proud, the over confident but they didn't endear her to the masses. So, shy & clingy was wheeled out next which still didn't work so now I give you ...... St Sparkles of the Soup Kitchen.
New451


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Joanna on December 30, 2017, 10:57:11 am
I think it very interesting on how both Kate and Meghan try to emulate Diana, although they do it in different ways and it apparently works like a charm. Meghan is turning into shy and dependant on affection Diana. It's either that or I'm seeing too much into this, which I'd like to say it's the case but I don't think it is.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on December 30, 2017, 01:04:50 pm
But the brother has no contact with the father, does he?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Joanna on December 30, 2017, 01:16:16 pm
^According to reports, they haven't been in touch in a long time, Thomas Sr lives in Mexico I think. I guess that could've changed with the news of the engagement but I doubt it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on December 30, 2017, 02:42:32 pm
@Val...is this the article you were referring to?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5222321/Meghan-Markle-volunteered-Skid-Row-13.html#comments-5222321


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Val on December 30, 2017, 03:28:52 pm
Yes, that's the one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 30, 2017, 03:31:15 pm
^^I love the smell of desperation from Camp Sparkles in the morning.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 30, 2017, 03:51:07 pm
Ok it's great that she did that at 13  :thumbsup: so what did she do from age 14 to age 30 in her college years she was in buena vista working in the embassy let's hear more about that .I know she joined the UN and world vision two  three years ago so what was she doing before she joined those groups dig that up press talk about that.

The press bringing this all out to show people Meghan was/ is a feminist princess in the making since she was a fetus  ,and she will not be just a clothes horse like the other one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on December 30, 2017, 03:54:05 pm
^Every Catholic school does this.  It's outreach planned and driven by the Church.  She had to go.  Zero brownie points.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 30, 2017, 04:32:15 pm
It strikes me that her PR firm put that out to counter the negative stuff going on about her family that she is estranged from. As I said before she has no traditional family that she celebrates Christmas with so that's why they invited her to theirs. Having gone to Catholic school for a few years I was always doing charity work through the nuns programs


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 30, 2017, 04:51:39 pm
The comment Val posted is spot on. Her tactics aren't quite working, so she keeps changing the narrative to hit the sweet (Diana) spot. Only it's not going to happen, ever. Mostly because people aren't that dumb not to realize that she is changng the narative and becoming desperate, which makes her look exactly like she is: disingenuous. The fact that the soup kitchen thing was another school assignment she claims as her own grand idea makes it all the worse. Her only charity effort was basically since meeting H going on photoshoots, and before meeting him a couple of photoshoots with the poor. That's it.

"How is Meghan Markle settling in to the UK? Morwenna Ferrier has a snoop

Dear Diary

Moving into Harry’s cottage next week. Can’t wait. It’s too cute! Need to get a juicer asap.

I love it here. Everyone is so friendly! People back home kept on telling me that the royals are racist but I asked Har and he said Philip adores his trips to the colonies. Really, really love it here.

So turns out the house used to be Kate and Wills’. And theirs is bigger. WTF. Still need to get a juicer.
Guardian Today: the headlines, the analysis, the debate - sent direct to you
Read more

Wow I used to love the Daily Mail but they are SUPER mean! It’s like they have a whole team of people dedicated to digging through my past!

So it turns out the Daily Mail have a whole team of people dedicated to digging through my past! Har said we could totally sue them if they keep publishing old pics.

Love my man!

Totally bonding with Kate. She’s, like, always pregnant, which is a bit worrying!? But super fun. I met Pippa, too. Seems kind of moody. Pretty though! In the States we’ve only ever seen her from behind.

Quit Suits but I’m totally going to quit Twitter, too. Everyone is being so mean about my divorce. Harry says divorcees are hot and that I’m like Wallis Simpson in WE. I love that film! She had the cutest hats. Hope I get to meet Madonna soon.

So yeah they already deleted my Twitter for me. Apparently I’m too “outspoken” about Hillary and Trump and Brexit. My lady in waiting has taken the wifi code until I agree to “stay neutral”. *poo* here’s like The Circle.

Met Harry’s grammy today! She’s super sweet and short, but keeps calling me Miss Merkel by mistake. Like, I get it, she’s old and stuff but like I told Mom, I’m not the German here. They also told me not to call her Grammy. We’ll see :) Really hope I get to meet Madonna.

Filmed my last episode of Suits today. Squeal! Can’t wait to be a wifey.

I’m so bored.

Today I decided to familiarise myself with British culture, because we’ll be travelling around a lot (um that wasn’t in the brochure, Harry!), so I’m watching King Ralph, Grand Designs and something called Currie, which is a show about a street. I also downloaded Monarch Of The Glen, which looked cute, but Harry thinks that it’ll be kind of pointless soon.

Should really go to sleep but I’m 368 pictures deep into Cressida’s Instagram and I can’t stop. God she’s pretty. Stupid name though. Harry said he’s going to roast a chicken, but think I’m going to go vegan. Need to tell Har. Brits are so weird. I miss Suits."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/dec/30/meghan-markle-dating-diary-priti-patels-flight-satirists-news

Quite apt.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on December 31, 2017, 01:31:52 am
^Wow, a fake diary entry, some people, not you HRHOlya, have too much time on their hands. But it was a funny thing to read :tehe:

I went over to Meghan Markle Review and someone posted a link to the dress that Meghan wore under her coat during the Xmas walk:

https://whatkatewore.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Meghan-Sentaler-Harry-Philip-Kate-Miu-Miu-Christmas-Day-Walk-to-Church-C-Jack-Getty-777-x-600.jpg

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Club-Monaco-Tay-Short-Sleeve-Velvet-Wrap-Dress/prod206410093/p.prod?ecid=NMAF__rewardStylerewardStyle&CS_003=5630585&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=NMAF__rewardStyle&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=NMAF__rewardStyle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on December 31, 2017, 01:46:49 pm
^ haha indeed, but when you have to churn out an article anyway to get paid, why not?  lol

https://fashion.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/fashion-news/201712307842/meghan-markle-christmas-day-dress-revealed/0-55-484/club-monaco-tay-dress-a.jpg
This is the dress from above Murkles wore to church for the Xmas walk. Wtf! This woman is becoming fast a worse flasher than Waity. With Waity it's at least "ooops forgot my knickers and the wind and weighing my hemline and a slipper! total accident!" With Murkles it's straight out "Looky what I got! Look! Look! Decorum? Can I eat that?"

I just cannot believe what she's been wearing 95% of the time so far!!! ffs!  :sly: :ick: :thumbsdown:

PS The dress has a touch of Little Smutty Fauntleroy Little Lord Fauntleroy.
Or Victorian Maid Lost Her Way and Went Upstairs by Accident.
Or some sort of Victorian cosplay gone wrong, originally it was a nightie but Murkles saw the ratty old drapes at KP and thought "I'll make a dress instead of the same pattern!"
Regardless, good Gawd someone send help to this dumb woman!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on December 31, 2017, 02:08:56 pm
That's strange. I saw that model velvet dress in the fashion thread in TRF and it had ties up to the neckline.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 31, 2017, 04:22:14 pm
Even with the extra ties, a velvet burgandy wrap dress is not appropriate for morning church. The color and dress style clashes with her tan casual coat. Cocktail attire in the morning. PLEASE.  I don't believe she is that dress code blind and she is a smart cookie (as we say here). So again the dressy with casual look is her signature. Maybe it will take off. My actress friend (was little Gretel on the SOUND OF MUSIC film) thinks MM is a fashion icon and my friend is known to overdress for everything. She is also had a traditional white wedding gown for her second marriage in her late 50s. So this is Hollywood and that is exactly what MM is bringing to the marriage and Brf when they participate.Harry is the opposite. Unless they dress him in a tux, he has a very causual look even in a suit and he wears light blue in suits which is casual. I never see men in light blue suits in court where one has to look more proper. This is MM style. The problem is when she goes to formal affairs, what will she wear, more of the same or neon lighted gowns....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on December 31, 2017, 04:45:55 pm
^ Are you sure that anyone with fashion sense or in Hollywood finds the obvious and complete lack of taste, class and appropriateness in Meghan's 'fashion' choices.

I get it - she's been dreaming of the red carpet her whole life and hasn't gone to church enough to know that nighty is probably distasteful and disrespectful but still. Instead of trolling tumblr, twitter and bkind gossip sites she coukd have googled 'how to dress for church'.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 31, 2017, 05:07:26 pm
People in business and regular social functions dress appropriate although, I imagine we are more casual than back East or in London. For Hollywood things, it goes all over depending on the event. Music parties are very arty.  I personally have never seen cocktail attire for morning church or brunch. But my friend might.  We don't do Christmas morning church or brunch together. I for one think she is doing this on purpose for some reason whether it is too shock or she is setting some new fashion standard. It is hard to beat Kate who does know how to dress at all occasions. So did Diana. I don't know what her problem is.  I do know no one with any taste wears medium tan boots and sporty hat with a light tan trench coat and a burgandy velvet cocktail dress underneath. Maybe she is color blind. Mabye she is just obnoxious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on December 31, 2017, 05:09:33 pm
'It doesn't look good': Psychic predicts Meghan Markle and Prince Harry WON'T last and claims William and Kate are expecting another baby GIRL
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5223691/Psychic-predicts-Meghan-Markle-Harry-wont-last.html#ixzz52rJu6dQY
One doesn't need t be or believe in psychic's to know that this is a disaster.
IMO, Meghan's fashion's tacky when she's led on her own or has Jessica send stuff to her. When she "borrows" stuff from her Suits character's wardrobe, it's not bad becasue the Suits stylist knows how to hide her flaws.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on December 31, 2017, 05:22:51 pm
Mabye she is a Russian, CIA, MI6 spy set out to ruin the BRF or parts of it, maybe Diana is reaching through the grave to further the downfall of the monarchy, (Harry will be fine himself in the end) or this is just a cruel twist of fate. In any event, watching MM is like hearing someone run their nails down a chalkboard. But PH is smitten and determined to have her be his wife. So grin and bear it, I guess. Prince Phillip insulted yet another innocent person at the Christmas walk. Maybe this is just karma to the Brf.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on December 31, 2017, 06:28:45 pm
'It doesn't look good': Psychic predicts Meghan Markle and Prince Harry WON'T last and claims William and Kate are expecting another baby GIRL
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5223691/Psychic-predicts-Meghan-Markle-Harry-wont-last.html#ixzz52rJu6dQY
One doesn't need t be or believe in psychic's to know that this is a disaster.
IMO, Meghan's fashion's tacky when she's led on her own or has Jessica send stuff to her. When she "borrows" stuff from her Suits character's wardrobe, it's not bad becasue the Suits stylist knows how to hide her flaws.


Please keep this kind of articles to the royal prediction thread.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on December 31, 2017, 06:34:55 pm
^^IMO, MI5/grey men/Spooks set her up with Harry because there was rumblings about how the monarchy is seen as colonial and that they didn't want the queen as head of state. Harry was due to go to the Carribean tour on behalf of the queen in a few months time, and things kicked into higher gear with #notmyprince movement. Things started to quiet down when it was known that Harry was dating Mehgan. Why, because she's of mixed-race.  IMO, because she's so unsuitable, she was used and now's been discarded like she's done to people after she's gotten what she wanted off them.
IMO, Harry's doing what he's directed to do and not going off on the rails and against his family in favor of this narc. Hopefully this bad soap opera will come to an end very soon.
^sorry Alexandrine.
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on December 31, 2017, 06:49:42 pm
No problem. Happy new year!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 01, 2018, 04:32:01 pm
Happy New Year to my fellow posters. My day is just beginning and I imagine a lot of yours are at the end. All I have to say about the Christmas dress is what I said before that she likes to do this casual dressiy mix to events that are neither casual nor dressy but they're sort of in the middle. So don't be surprised to see her go to a dressy event in a gown with neon lights advertising product placement on her skirt part you know the neon thing that goes around in a circle with the name of the product. And she will be wearing sandals or flip-flops with rhinestones. Or yet a rhinestone studded baseball cap. Then on the beach she will wear shorts with a diamond tiara. I think she's making a statement fashion-wise. And this gets her attention and people talking about her like we are. You know she's going to have to do a lot to upstage Kate. And this chick needs the attention she really does ...that is why this marriage will not last. Because eventually Harry is not going to be able to give her enough and he will be holding her back unless she has a total turn around when she's married but I doubt it. Interesting Lee enough like Diana she will go on her own and be bigger or at least independent from The Firm dictates. Unless of course the firm changes themselves and just lets her do what she wants to keep her happy in this marriage. But they let for you go so I doubt they're going to let her get too outrageous.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 01, 2018, 11:01:47 pm
This is in regards to holiday to France that was posted whilst I was making an edit to the same article.
Why would KP source talk about security but not about the hiring of Table Talk? Glad to see people not buying this trip.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 01, 2018, 11:05:44 pm
Prince Harry whisks Meghan Markle off to the French Riviera for a romantic New Year break... and they fly economy on British Airways next to the toilets!

    Harry and Meghan flew out of Heathrow on New Year's Eve on BA flight to Nice.
    Pair boarded before other passengers and headed straight to back of the plane
    Sat near toilets and took up three rows of economy seats either side of the aisle
    Harry apparently slumped down next to the window in jeans and baseball cap


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5226867/Prince-Harry-whisks-Meghan-Markle-Riviera.html

"In an attempt to remain incognito, the pair boarded their 9.55am flight before any other passengers and headed straight to the back of the plane, next to the rear toilets.

They also took up three rows of economy seats, either side of the aisle, even though there were only themselves and three 'edgy and nervous' bodyguards in their party.
"

<<Just "themselves", taking up 3 rows on either side of the aisle... That's pretty normal. Have they become morbidly obese since Xmas to need this much space "by themselves"?

"According to one fellow traveller, the aircraft actually took off several minutes early, much to the surprise of other passengers, and shaved 20 minutes off its two-hour flight time."

<<What good luck these "royal" passengers bring to the plebeians!
One paragraph they are "by themselves"; the next they are "a group".. Can't they decide?

"Other sources have told the Mail that several members of France's elite Service de la Protection – the police unit responsible for the protection of foreign dignitaries – have flown down from Paris to guard the couple during their stay.

Asked if Kensington Palace had requested them, they said: 'No, it would have been offered and would have been non-negotiable.

'After what happened to his mother in this country and the issue of terrorism, it would be insisted on even for a private trip such as this.'

All officers within the force are armed with a Beretta M9, while at least one of them would also have a machine gun.
"

<<Oh please! And also: May the St Diana card favour her sons and their ridiculous wives forever. :ick:

Also this little tidbit:

"One decision that has already been made is the catering firm they will use for their May nuptials.

While royal household staff will man and cater the main event – and will be paid for by the Queen and Prince Charles privately – the couple have also employed society favourite Table Talk, most probably for the evening reception.

The firm has royal pedigree – it was used by Prince William and the Duchess of Cambridge for their 2011 wedding and by Kate's sister, Pippa Middleton, when she married last year. Kensington Palace declined to comment last night.
"

<<Pippy used to "work" for them for a while, right?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 01, 2018, 11:21:35 pm
I think so. I cqnnot believe they are so stupid they are going to have a double wedding like Will and Kate.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 01, 2018, 11:27:05 pm
Their little PR exercise trying to make them look frugal (whilst taking up 3 bloody rows of seats!) by flying "economy" (boohoo cry me a river) not only failed, but Ldn - Nic is a very short flight and 1st class likely isn't even offered. Not familiar with this particular route via BA, but 1st class on short flights makes no sense and is a ridiculous waste of money.

PS Not going to pat them on the back for not booking what makes no sense; or not booking what wasn't even available to book.
I guess we should be grateful he didn't scrounge a flight on his friends' private jet?! Is that what this "frugal" praise is all about?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 02, 2018, 03:29:56 am
Nothing praiseworthy about two people taking up three rows of seats.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 02, 2018, 04:40:39 am
Out of all the places to go on NYE Nice is the stupidest. It's not even warm at this time of the year.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 02, 2018, 04:52:02 am
They have each other too keep warm . Or can Nice be a stopover for somewhere else ?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 02, 2018, 05:09:51 am
^ It was speculated on at the time the Twitter came out about Nice that they might have been going skiing (apparently Fergie is at her Swiss chalet a lot of the time now,) or to Africa, but someone else suggested that it's only going to be a few days away and it might be at Nice to celebrate Charlie Van Straubenzee's engagement, which was announced only a little while ago.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 02, 2018, 02:45:00 pm

Revealed: How Harry and Meghan saw in New Year in Monaco after jetting to the millionaires' playground for romantic break (but are already on their way home)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5228561/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-New-Year-Monaco.html#ixzz532RqSWOj
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: logically on January 02, 2018, 03:04:05 pm
Did Harry pay for all the seas in the 3 rows - cause that doesn't scream economical or do they wist the arm of the airline to get free seats.  He must have been pouting that he didn't get a private jet and she might have been annoyed but she relished int eh fuss on regular flight and that she could be seen!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 02, 2018, 03:50:18 pm
Well I'm sure it's his own money that he spent or else this money he gets from Charles which I still say part belongs to the taxpayers cuz he doesn't pay his full share of taxes on that income. He gets breaks other people don't get. But in any event the money he got from Diana no matter what the source is his so he can spend it like he likes and she's probably got expensive taste and needs like most anyone would developing put in that lucrative position. It comes with the territory though in all fairness I think a lot of people would be spending money like that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Val on January 02, 2018, 04:00:11 pm
Typical DM and other forums' comments re UK tax payers coughing up for the security and extra seats for the Nice jolly.

JS wrote:
'How many seats is that? Four either side? Times three? Possibly 24 seats. Wouldn't first class have been cheaper? Bit daft after the £60k engagement dress. Yep this one us going to be the mother of all gold diggers.'


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 02, 2018, 04:08:21 pm
You know a lot of starlets are gold diggers in the making. They struggle for a while and then when they make it the really spend like there's no tomorrow because they can. She had a pretty good income from Suits at 50000 an episode I read. And I bet she was more frugal with her own money then she's going to be spending Britain and Harry's money. Kate is no spendthrift either. I'm one of the few people I know that would not spend a bunch of money in that position because I *despise* spending money whether I have it or not just the way I was raised. I think most people nowadays especially younger ones when you get the opportunity are going to spend spend spend.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 02, 2018, 04:21:14 pm
The so called 'normal humanitarian couple' partying 'like tycoons' in Monaco....so it begins  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 02, 2018, 07:20:09 pm
^^Meghan is 36. She's past young for a long long time and if they partied like tycoons I'll bet that Meghan didn't pay a thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 02, 2018, 07:42:27 pm
^ But she thinks she's young!!  Didn't you catch that wide-eyed, I'm-a-scared-little-girl-hanging-on-her-big-man act she was pulling on Christmas Day?    lol

She's a fine feminist!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 02, 2018, 08:51:03 pm
That was just disgusting. Harry sure picked a winner, didn't he?  :angry:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 02, 2018, 09:57:29 pm
^Are you referring to the burgandy velvet dress on the model? It was a lovely dress except for the plunging neckline. Thr colour on my mobile looked superb. I LOVE velvet for winter esp velvet capes with gold chain lace-up hoods and pearl buttons. But yes the neckline is inappropriate for the day out. That is something worn in private without thw paps getting an eyeful...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 02, 2018, 10:11:01 pm
after Nottingham....
then Harry traveled to Germany, to hunt.
Meghan traveled to the United States.
Now Monaco.

This is because she is a foreign bride, :sigh:   who wants to know and learn about England.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Little light on January 02, 2018, 11:59:19 pm
 :laugh:

If it was a British person wanting to marry an American and apply for US visa, they would have to pass a test.

She should have to sit one too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 04, 2018, 05:43:12 pm
As Prince Harry Shines, Meghan Markle Sinks Into His Shadow
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/as-prince-harry-shines-meghan-markle-sinks-into-his-shadow_uk_5a462597e4b0df0de8b069ad
Some of it's bs but the main part is that she's beig shut down and it has nothing to do with being a royal fiancé, imo. She claims to be passionate about so many things but hs no problem dumping people, causes and animals when another opportunity comes along like a big fish Prince Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 04, 2018, 05:53:41 pm
^Easily predicted stance from the liberal’s voice aka HuffPo.  Sparkles’ fabulousness and feminism will be portrayed as being victimized, silenced, and diminished by the old boy institution/BRF.  If she isn’t “allowed” to outshine everyone they will never let up in their disdain of the monarchy.  Anybody in the US could see this coming.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 04, 2018, 07:18:23 pm
She's choosing it; she could walk at any time and basically try to live a better life. She isn't without options and she has money of her own.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 04, 2018, 07:49:09 pm
^she won't step away as now she thinks Harry's her meal ticket. I believe her crap got shut down because she's being audited by the IRS.
Reporters are being attacked now. IMO, she's gotten this far by using the race card; accusing people of being racist. It wouldn't surprise me if she's leaving nasty posts on the press websites and social media sites. She seems to not care about the black part of her ethnicity and Harry's showing her what some black people have to go through and overcome. First it was the trip to the Aids event in notingham and now the other event in Brixton.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/948651835589627904


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 04, 2018, 09:50:36 pm
^^We’ll see, KF.  This is a once in a century opportunity for her to be really big news and reject the whole monarchy setup.  They’d pratically throw her a ticker tape parade in NYC for her standing against patriarchal tyranny and for women’s freedom everywhere.  Maybe even President!   8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 04, 2018, 10:33:27 pm
If she started defying Harry instead of subtly controlling him, he'd drop her. She must be silent now to get him. Then in time, her real colors will come out.   By the way in the photos in the above post, she is just not that attractive especially with her tied back. She must have other qualities to hook men in like she does.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 04, 2018, 11:27:35 pm
Meghan Markle nominated for Oscar for her portrayal of woman in love with Prince Harry
Quote
Some critics are saying that her performance is so good that sometimes you can almost forget that she’s acting the part of a woman prepared to marry a ginger squaddie for money.
“It’s an astonishing performance.” Jonathan Woss, film critic for Zoo Magazine told The Rochdale Herald. “If you’re bit stoned and pissed when you watch the footage of her and Harry’s first interview as a couple, and you watch it with your fingers in your ears whilst humming, and you squint really hard you can just about suspend disbelief long enough to believe that she’s being sincere.”
https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/12/21/meghan-markle-nominated-for-oscar-for-her-portrayal-of-a-woman-who-is-in-love-with-prince-harry/
:thumbsup: 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 05, 2018, 01:26:32 am
I think I understand how Meg got that ring: she eggs him on in the area of having a 'me against the world' complex and it is evident in that statement he issued so quickly to the media, despite the fact that the media hasn't been harassing her. By keeping a siege mentality he isolates himself from others who would be able to help him, which is how Meg likes to have him. Hence the recent 'little girl intimidated' act at the church service.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 05, 2018, 01:28:32 am
^And the lack of New Years/Winter ski break with his set of friends.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 05, 2018, 01:37:59 am
Exactly; he is abandoning his support system, those who actually do care about him.

That anti-Meg petition is gaining traction and I am certain that it might actually end up debated in Parliament.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 05, 2018, 02:12:17 am
Is it just me or was Kate photographed out and about way more during her engagement? It just seems like MM is on lockdown.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 05, 2018, 02:15:38 am
Harry and Meg are going to places where the press can't really operate freely and right now there are more important stories out there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 05, 2018, 03:29:13 am
Exactly; he is abandoning his support system, those who actually do care about him.

That anti-Meg petition is gaining traction and I am certain that it might actually end up debated in Parliament.

It needs 100,000 signatures and what would debating it in parliament achieve? Nothing.

Who the members of the BRF marry is nothing to do with the parliament at all so long as they meet the requirements of the existing law and Meghan does. Harry is also obeying the law of the land - he will have HM's permission granted via the Privy Council - who don't have the right to say 'no' only to be informed. That is all Harry needs and that law is very recent as the previous law required that and for his spouse to not be Roman Catholic (which Meghan isn't anyway).


The parliament is not going to change the law of the land to deprive one woman of the same rights as every other woman and thus she will take her husband's titles and styles. Either she will be 'HRH Princess Henry of Wales' and once Charles if King HRH The Princess Henry' or Harry will be promoted from Prince to a peerage title and she will hold the feminine of that title just as Camilla, Kate, Sophie etc do.

The entire petition is a joke - poorly written and based on no actual facts or reasons.

The petition was started 9 months ago - and only reached 1000 signatures 6 days ago. At that rate she will be married, a mother etc before they get the required number of signatures as they have just over 1% of the number required.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: LadyLaura on January 05, 2018, 03:37:15 am
Wonder if she told him he's not going skiing this year.
This thing is already a mess  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 05, 2018, 03:52:09 am
^I'm wondering if maybe she doesn't mix well with his friends. I've got a relative who married a woman that has rubbed everyone in the family the wrong way. She's such a nasty person that many family members who were very close to him (myself included) barely have a relationship with him now. I recently learned from a mutual friend of ours that he's asked his guy friends not to bring their wives when they have functions at their house because she tends to cause issues with the women. Harry's deal is kind of reminding me of that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: LadyLaura on January 05, 2018, 04:01:59 am
^Yes, I think that could be what's going on here. Meghan is certainly controlling and abrasive, she probably has a safe set of girlfriends or just JM, who knows, but I can't see many ladies being able to get on with meghan. She's out looking for reasons to cry racism and anti feminist. such nonsense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: logically on January 05, 2018, 04:39:29 am
IT seems that Sparky is behaving in very similar ways that WK and her mom used on PW.  Isolate from friends, saying only i understand you, protect me form you family & media, the shy retiring fragile girl.  Ma Midds saw this and Sparky learned from her.  Harry and his brother are very.......


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 05, 2018, 04:50:42 am
^ Reports stated that Harry and Meghan were in Monaco for New Years Eve 'with friends'. They're more likely, numbers-wise, to be his friends than hers, as most of hers are on the North American continent.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 05, 2018, 04:51:46 am
^^All you have to do is look at her Instagram account to see who her real circle of friends are (minus Serena. I honestly think that's more of an association than a friendship).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 05, 2018, 05:22:39 am
^ Yes, but if they were with friends then Harry's friends, living in Britain would be more likely to be able to skip over to Britain for a night or two in Monaco than anybody living the US. The Straubenzee brothers for a start, with Charlie only just engaged himself. Guy Pelly (married to an American) might well have wanted to go, and perhaps Skip and wife.

There's no evidence to suggest that Harry is isolated from his friends, either by himself or Meghan's wish. Practically everybody in his circle is now either married or engaged/in a serious relationship. They're all more like to do their entertaining domestically ie inviting friends to dinner, than to go out clubbing as they once did, especially as several have young children. Therefore we aren't likely to see much of any of them. They are out of the public eye.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 05, 2018, 03:33:57 pm
Mm is not being as photographed as Kate was or is now because I think she's just not as pretty or fashion savvy. So like Fergie she's not going to be the hit like Diana. That doesn't mean she's not going to get photographed it's just she doesn't carry that Charisma in the same way that her predecessors have. The Press only care about what they perceive sells magazines and unless she starts being really scandalous I doubt she's going to be covered as much as Wait.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 05, 2018, 04:18:49 pm
Meghan is far prettier than Waity.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on January 05, 2018, 05:09:17 pm
She sounds like a real control freak


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 05, 2018, 06:28:02 pm
Kate didn't have to have a nose job plus other things to be pretty. And she is far prettier than Pipa or MM will ever dream to be. But I admit MM is better than Pipa by far. They are both on some style cover in the States and no way is MM close to Kate's looks. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Little light on January 05, 2018, 06:43:44 pm
She has had a nose job but don’t know if it was pre or post wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 05, 2018, 07:33:08 pm
Hers nose looks different in college and in her tv appearences so I'd say pre first wedding. And to whoever started that petition, where is it? Nine months ago they were not engaged. So was it a petition they not date? Strange. But it goes to show that she is getting her fair share of negative publicity. I have never seen this happen before. I remember everyone loving Kate Diana and Fergie when they were engaged. At least I didn't see any negative publicity and I looked for it with Kate but it wasn't there. It is not too hard to find MM haters.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 05, 2018, 08:08:33 pm
Some though are looking forward to the wedding. Not everybody "hates" her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 05, 2018, 08:15:22 pm
^^The date is strange.  I don’t know how that works unless it has been recently updated.  Here is the link per your request:

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-prevent-meghan-markle-having-an-official-title-or-role-in-the-royal-family (https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-prevent-meghan-markle-having-an-official-title-or-role-in-the-royal-family)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 05, 2018, 08:21:46 pm
^^^ Meghan is not liked at all even before the wedding. DM adds article about the 'villain' Yorks who try to sabotage the engagement and they are cheered instead of vilified. That should speak volumes about the public opinion for her especially because the 'meddling' Yorks is a well known negative PR for them.

^^ Justified and well-argued criticism is different from h8. She tried to provoke, to show controversy, to garner h8ters so that she can collect the race and the victim card. It hasn't worked so far but if she and her PR so desperately need approval: A for effort.

^Sounds like fake outrage and a PR move.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: LadyLaura on January 05, 2018, 08:33:32 pm
^^ I enjoyed signing that  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 05, 2018, 10:22:35 pm
Why Kate can wear tiaras but Meghan will have to wait: Bride-to-be will only be loaned the Queen's jewels AFTER the royal wedding (but she still might get to borrow one for the big day)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5239647/Meghan-wont-wear-royal-jewels-shes-married.html
I wonder when the press will get around to her needing a visa and how she'll change religion again in order to get married. Needless to say, people are ticked off and saying Harry should be ashamed to embarrass Britain like this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 05, 2018, 10:27:57 pm
^^^ Meghan is not liked at all even before the wedding. DM adds article about the 'villain' Yorks who try to sabotage the engagement and they are cheered instead of vilified. That should speak volumes about the public opinion for her especially because the 'meddling' Yorks is a well known negative PR for them.

^^ Justified and well-argued criticism is different from h8. She tried to provoke, to show controversy, to garner h8ters so that she can collect the race and the victim card. It hasn't worked so far but if she and her PR so desperately need approval: A for effort.

^Sounds like fake outrage and a PR move.

I don't think the Yorks are trying to sabotage anything.  And I don't know how they would have any power to do anything.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 06, 2018, 01:29:12 am
Nothing but bad news and negativity regarding anything around Meghan, her family, her with Harry, etc. On and on the mess goes on.
Not a very royal way to ring in the New Year! Meghan Markle's soon to be sister-in-law is arrested for assaulting the actress' brother during booze-fueled fight
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Prince Harry's soon to be sister-in-law was arrested just before the clock struck midnight on New Year, and was booked around 4:20am, after a boozed-up altercation with Tom.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5240653/Meghan-Markles-sister-law-arrested-assaulted-brother.html#ixzz53MbZfEok
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 06, 2018, 02:20:29 am
Good grief! I've never seen so much negative press surrounding a royal fiance so soon after the engagement. This is not good at all!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 06, 2018, 03:19:00 am
You mean the half brother Meghan hasn't even spoken to since 2011 and his defacto who she probably hasn't even met ever got into a blue, DM ? People aren't responsible for their relatives but Harry was probably right when he said that the BRF was the family she never had, in comparison to her half-sister and half-brother. The Fail enjoys these sorts of headlines.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 06, 2018, 03:43:36 am
It's not the DM's fault that her family's trash. It doesn't matter that Meghan's not spoken to them. The fact that Harry's involved with this mess of a woman, because she's made headlines all her own with her tacky acting roles, lies about being a humanitarian, femenist and so on, these are the types of headlines that Harry and the royal family have to get used to. It looks like Harry could care less about her image anyway or maybe that there's no amount of bleach in the world to whitewash her background. Trash is trash and the press will report on it especially since she's potentially going to represent the UK and have tax payer's money spent for her protection.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 06, 2018, 05:33:42 am
It's not Meghan's fault either that she has a trashy family who keep getting into mischief, and actually it's only Samantha the half-sister and the half-brother Tom Jnr (and his defacto) who keep causing trouble. The others have given/sold videos and photos of a much younger Meghan, but haven't got into strife. And actually, none of them except Samantha have ever criticised her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 09:24:59 am
THe DM and the media stir up trouble some with click bait articles and comments. Meghan has been criticized for: clinging to Harry during appearances, wearing a hat that some don't like, the dresses, and projections about her attitude. Her half sister is also there stirring things up. It is not that she has done anything so horrific to deserve petitions against her. After all the Queen did approve of the engagement.  She had a role on a TV series not some local cable show someplace that nobody ever heard of.  She is going to need to work and learn the ropes but I think she should be given a chance. Samantha should not be given so much attention, I think Samantha likes attention on her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 06, 2018, 11:44:46 am
I disagree. The mugshot is pretty much self explanatory and not a DM click bait or fan fiction on a slow news day. If Meghan grew up in house full of trash people and criminals one can only assume that she's not far from that family tradition.

Second, people are annoyed at her bad attempt at reality show acting and on making money off of official appearances with Harry, not at imagined or unreal things.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 06, 2018, 12:38:58 pm
The problem with all of this is that she is apparently, through Harry and the BRF, reinventing herself yet again and rejecting her family in an effort to flee or find refuge from a "bad upbringing".  Nowhere in this scenario does she exhibit any compassion.

Everybody has family issues, everybody has relatives that are troubled or troublesome.  The question is, do you still care, do you take those issues and, wisely, accept them and work on either highlighting a universal challenge or throw them away as beneath your dignity?

This would be a prime opportunity to embrace spousal and/or alcohol/drug abuse and use your humanitarian gene to raise awareness.  She may.  But she hasn't yet in her whole "activist" life.  She's just escaped from one relationship to another to enhance herself.

It shows a definite lack of character, family involvement and a true heart.  Iow, a user with a whole lot of emotional issues that will eventually cause her to fall away from another commitment if it becomes unattractive or damaging to her perceived image.

This should matter to a taxpayer.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 06, 2018, 12:46:25 pm
I saw while at the grocery last night that Meggles' tongue photo made the cover of National Enquirer with an inside story of the queen demanding she be given lessons on appropriate behavior.  So even the NE is mocking Meggles. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 06, 2018, 01:18:15 pm
Good grief! I've never seen so much negative press surrounding a royal fiance so soon after the engagement. This is not good at all!
  This is what should have happened to KM instead of the sychophantic bs that was.... :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 01:19:55 pm
I saw while at the grocery last night that Meggles' tongue photo made the cover of National Enquirer with an inside story of the queen demanding she be given lessons on appropriate behavior.  So even the NE is mocking Meggles. 

The NE is a tab that dishes the dirt on people.  NE is the one that should be mocked. IMO. They get the dirt on people real or imagined and if all they have on Meghan is that, it is relatively tame.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 06, 2018, 01:55:12 pm
I disagree. The problem is not in the 'dirt' the problem is that the dirt is real and is getting close to the fan by the minute.
The tabs don't have a choice - either tell the truth jokingly or suffer the wrath of the blind to the truth prince who can't connect the dots.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 06, 2018, 04:01:36 pm
Thanks for the petition link. I signed it and donated. I, for one, don't want to see her on the cover of anything while I'm buying stuff in the market. She's too annoying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 06, 2018, 04:52:36 pm
When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Maya Angelou
This applies to Waity and Meghan. Waity showed that she's a lazy limpet who waited around and at Wills beck and call for years and nothings changed ater marriage. Meghan's about herself and having men take care of her and and after using them and seeing another opportunity, sh dumps and coldly moves on. She doesn't care about anyone else and her actions show it. I'm not one to say lets gee her the benefit of the doubt when she's showing you what she's about.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 06, 2018, 07:49:58 pm
^speaking of true colors, this blind item is very interesting

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-3_6.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 06, 2018, 08:58:23 pm
^Did we call it or did we call it?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 09:29:14 pm
It looks like gossip which has not yet been proven or unproven IMO anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 06, 2018, 09:32:55 pm
I'd say about 9/10th of blind items on those sites are rubbish and/or pot stirring.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 06, 2018, 10:43:58 pm
Trump would resent not being invited to Harry and Meghan's wedding, could put a post-Brexit deal at risk - and will treat The Queen like a 'reality contestant' if he gets a state visit, claims Wolff
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Theresa May's hopes of a Brexit trade deal with the US could be wrecked if Donald Trump is not invited to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding, the author of a blockbuster book on the President has warned.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5242385/Brexit-deal-doubt-Harry-Meghan-wedding.html
Please, this is too funny. Why would he care about a wedding when Meghan insulted him numerous times on tv and in the press. I'd love it if he did tweet about not caring about her and the wedding.
He's not getting a state visit as he'll be opening the new US embassy next month.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 10:57:55 pm
Trump is busy tweeting about that new book. I think the wedding is on the backburner for him now IMO anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 06, 2018, 11:01:08 pm
Thats what they want Trump to do tweet about not caring cause people are already saying watch trump tweet about how he didn't care about the wedding and he wasn't going anyway .. so what he should do is not tweet at all . Trump was never going get an invite anyway the press really need to drop this


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 11:03:34 pm
Some American rep will probably be sent, TBA. In my opinion. Not Trump though. Maybe Melania to promote her as First Lady. Maybe even Tiffany Trump?!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 06, 2018, 11:08:25 pm
Has any POTUS attended a royal wedding at this level?  It’s a ludicrous expectation with just the security alone not to mention the small size of the venue.  There’d be more Secret Service personnel and RPOs than guests.  This is silly.   Any sitting President has other things to do. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 06, 2018, 11:10:46 pm
Meghan Markle's half brother vows to 'seek help' after a drunken New Year's Eve brawl with his fiancee led to her being thrown in jail for assault
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5242529/Fiancee-Meghan-Markles-brother-thrown-jail.html
^^^the author's really goading Trump about the queen and him wanting to be the centre of attention. He'll tweet not necessarily about the dumb wedding, but about the queen. Him and Meghan have a few things in common.
^^it's not a state wedding to have a sitting president attend. Wills is future king and his wedding wasn't attended by an American president so it makes no sense for Harry's to be.
^exactly.   


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 06, 2018, 11:11:13 pm
  ^ the press really reaching with this harry is 6th in line.they know he would never get an invite but the story sticks so go with it


i dont think none of the trumps.more then likely it will be the US ambassador  to the uk woody Johnson




Will Never Believe How This 'Strange-Smelling' Harry and Meghan Portrait Was Made
It’s Prince Harry  and Meghan Markle like you’ve never seen them: “painted” out of carpet cleaner.

Welsh artist Nathan Wyburn, who has created previous royal portraits out of everything from pizza to onesies, crafted his latest work out of a dirty 20-ft. carpet.

“I’m a huge fan of the royals and had been thinking of a way of celebrating Harry and Meghan’s engagement for a while,” Wyburn, 28 — who was commissioned to create the portrait by stain remover Dr. Beckmann — tells PEOPLE. “I basically just thought, ‘This is my golden opportunity.’
http://people.com/royals/you-will-never-believe-how-this-strange-smelling-harry-and-meghan-portrait-was-made/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 06, 2018, 11:19:27 pm
The media likes controversy IMO.  Trump's probable absence will be pointedly noticed by the media. IMO anyway. One of the local news sites here even had a segment on it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 06, 2018, 11:57:21 pm
Whoa what happened to Queen that she gave permission to this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 01:18:59 am
GIRL ABOUT TOWN: Meghan Markle hosts a 'bride-to-be breakfast' to catch up with friends before the big day
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Meghan Markle has asked top party planners Table Talk to help her host a special ‘bride-to-be breakfast’.
Such events are common in the United States, especially when guests have flown in from far-flung places to attend the big day.
The bride-to-be wears a white outfit and catches up with friends over breakfast the day before the ceremony.
Table Talk also masterminded the catering at Pippa Middleton’s wedding to hedge fund millionaire James Matthews last year.
Meanwhile, I’m told that Meghan has jetted back to LA since announcing her engagement to Prince Harry, and my spies say she has been spotted at the Rodeo Drive boutique of renowned wedding gown designer Vera Wang.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5242143/Meghan-Markle-hosts-bride-breakfast.html#ixzz53SObnjF4
Back to LA since the engagement announcement, o at least since after the Christmas service/photo op.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 07, 2018, 01:29:16 am
I hope she does wear Vera Wang, though I think she'll pick a British or Canadian designer for her wedding gown. Vera Wang has some fabulous outfits.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 07, 2018, 03:34:53 am
If you want an everybody’s-done-it dress with Made In America labels for a British royal event, then, yes, Wang fits the bill.  Super merchy, flashy, showbizzy, so played, pricey, easily recognizable.  Sounds perfect.

Never heard of a bride-to-be-lunch in my life.  Is that the cut rate version of the bridal luncheon with bridesmaids, friends and family that takes place shortly before the wedding? 

She had lunch.  With maybe friends in LA. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 07, 2018, 03:41:09 am
^Yeah, I've never heard of a bride-to-be lunch either and I've got some very old money, society centered friends. None of them ever had one.

If she goes with an American designer the likes of Wang, it's because she's merching and getting it for free.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 07, 2018, 03:45:42 am
I've never heard of the bride-to-be breakfast either and I'm from the United States. At least not here in LA. Hi


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 07, 2018, 04:13:25 am
^I've heard of and been to many bridal showers and bridal teas but these typically happen in the months leading up to the wedding, not the day before. Let's just say for the sake of argument the press got this wrong and this is actually more along the lines of a bridal tea/shower. It's not a good look because one should NEVER throw her own shower/tea. These type of things are hosted by members of the bridal party, close friends or family members like aunts you have a special relationship with. Down south, a bride hosting this type of event is an indication that she doesn't really have friends.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 07, 2018, 04:19:46 am
^Correct.  At least here in the States, the Maid or Matron of Honor throws a breakfast before the wedding.  A month or less prior.  A bridal shower is thrown by the bridal party and friends, family a few months out but not five months out.  No events are organized by the bride other than guest list suggestions.

This sounds like something she organized or something.  Just breakfast.  To show off?  I don’t know.  Just sounds like a callup.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 07, 2018, 04:26:47 am
I just went to a round of weddings and nobody threw a breakfast other than the parents threw one after the wedding. Of course there are bridal showers which are more typically lunch or tea. Then there's an engagement party and then there's the bachelorette party. So I agree to press probably got this wrong she's just throwing herself a lunch?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 07, 2018, 05:27:56 am
^As someone said, throwing yourself your own bridal party means that there are no friends. Usually I will go with sad emoji but in this case it's a blah.

According to this article: https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainment/celebrity/why-meghan-markle-wont-be-touching-prince-harrys-money/ar-BBHVk4N
Meghan and her lawyers can breathe easily because PC and PW trusted their respective wives enough to not ask for prenup. But, Meghan won't be able to touch PH's money anyway, or so the article claims. She ain't winning in the money game 8)

And according to this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-5229335/Why-Im-proud-Meghanomaniac.html
Meghan has already started a popularity and who's better competition with PH, Kate, Diana. I have no doubt that these words are coming from MM herself, hoping to coin a meghanomania movement while making it even more apparent how delusional megalomaniac she is. Some of the comparisons in her favor:

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She makes Kate seem awfully prim and provincial
Nope, she doesn't. She make her seem regal.

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Harry got to where he is due to accident of birth. She got there through willpower and charm
B* please. PH is not undeserving because he is born prince and MM is not deserving because she was born in a ghetto. PH's charities achieved a lot until MM came and started ruining his star quality. Besides, putting down your own fiance ..it's a no-no.

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Though Meghan has Diana's luminous star quality, she has none of her neuroses or fragility
My teeth hurt from all that sugar. First, Diana was not fragile. She married at 18 and was a star at 18. Meghan is twice her age and still unable to book a role. What star and what quality? Can I have some of what MM's smoking? Must be really good if she can come up with such an article.






Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 07, 2018, 05:34:19 am
Yeah I'm going go with Meghan just had lunch with friends ,but that's too boring so the DM had to spice it up a it .



Meghan Markle Is ‘Super Exhausted’ After First Christmas With Prince Harry And The Other Royals – Here’s Why!

Apparently, even though Meghan Markle seemed to do really well during the royal Christmas celebrations alongside her fiancé Prince Harry, she is now really exhausted and is hopeful that she’ll be able to get a breather really soon. The American actress carried on with a smile but she was tired nevertheless, a palace source told us.
Markle managed to carry her first ever royal duties with a lot of grace, but following the busy holiday season, she is already exhausted!
Ever since she and Harry confirmed their engagement back in November, the pair has been attending many events, and she’s been non-stop meeting members of Harry’s family.
‘Meghan’s feeling utterly exhausted right now. Spending Christmas with the Queen of England is as daunting as you’d expect, despite the Queen going out of her way to make Meghan feel comfortable and accepted, as she always does. Meghan has never had to be this mindful of every single thing before, and it’s incredibly draining,’ the insider dished.
http://celebrityinsider.org/meghan-markle-is-super-exhausted-after-first-christmas-with-prince-harry-and-the-other-royals-heres-why-99648/?tag=meghan-markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 07, 2018, 05:34:43 am
My sister-in-law organised her bridal lunch the day before her wedding, back in 1982, because her family lived in Queensland while she and her husband to be lived in Sydney and his family lived in rural NSW. As a result the only time both families could do anything 'pre-weddingish' was the day before the wedding and the only person who could organise it was my sister-in-law as she was the one 'on the spot' while everyone else in the wedding party wasn't arriving in town until the Friday morning with the wedding on the Saturday.

As Meghan, no doubt, will want family and/or friends to attend from the US but she will be the one on the ground in the UK it makes sense for her to organise it - she will know the places to go etc and can be the 'go-to' person.

I have friends who had to do the same thing when family members had to come from overseas for the wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 06:25:05 am
MEDIA ADVISORY: Will the IRS Know What Gifts Prince Harry Gives Meghan Markle for Christmas?
http://www.capdale.com/media-advisory-will-the-irs-know-what-gifts-prince-harry-gives-meghan-markle-for-christmas
The royal family/Harry has to deal with the IRS.
 
It seems all of this wedding planning is all from her. KP did say that only her and Harry are doing the planning, and we know Harry's not going to talk to the press, so..The artcles are still very sarcastic though even though she seems to be paying for the pr push.

Meghan Markle Was Reportedly Totally On Board With Nude Scene, Claims Director Who Was ‘Pressured’ Into Writing It
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Meghan Markle dodged a bullet that could have been a major embarrassment for the royal family. In the 2015 film, Anti-Social, director Reg Traviss was pressured to write a nude scene for the Suits star. While Traviss rejected the push to get Markle naked for the cameras, he believes she would have signed off for the nude scene if asked.
http://celebrityinsider.org/meghan-markle-was-reportedly-totally-on-board-with-nude-scene-claims-director-who-was-pressured-into-writing-it-101759/?tag=meghan-markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 07, 2018, 07:48:07 am
For sure, especially if she's already under audit for fraudulent expense claims and it's easy to raise suspicions because the articles were stating that PH is taking her out to dinner, to the theater,etc. and it's not her and her Tig exploring London. Any gift ...like let's say a $75K engagement dress is not a free gift in the eyes of the law.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 07, 2018, 12:37:30 pm
The DM never said that full price was paid, they did say there was a possibility the dress was sold at discount. I believe MEghan will honor her debts to the IRS regarding dress and other possible gifts. She probably has a CPA on call. Generally, the actual price paid rather than assessed value is what needs to be declared.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Little light on January 07, 2018, 01:32:04 pm
^^^^^^Ariel

Diana married on 29th July 1981. She was born on 1st July 1961, so that made her 20 years old when she was married. Still very young.

 And she was a star then too. Some say even before she married when she was dating Charles.

That aside, I agree with your comments.  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 07, 2018, 01:37:37 pm
^^She has no choice.  It's either pay up or a boat load of trouble with the IRS.  Nobody gets a trophy for following tax guidelines.  They'll find out exactly how much everything cost, was gifted, or wasn't reported.  Including tax.

The thing with that dress is, Sparkles is used to having anything she wears fall under a business expense or promotion.  This is not.  This is personal income or outlay.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 04:02:28 pm
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 'DENIED' their choice of reception venue as royal aides opt for a more 'practical' option
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But the pair have reportedly been denied their chosen venue for the wedding reception - the 'dreamy' Frogmore House.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5243595/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-denied-choice-venue.html#ixzz53VzE4jym
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A source said: 'They would have loved Frogmore for the party, particularly Meghan who has called it 'dreamy', but they have been told St George's Hall is far more practical.
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'One person who would have readily approved of their choice was the Queen, for whom Frogmore is a very special place.
:thumbsup:
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5243595/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-denied-choice-venue.html#ixzz53VxuUoAz
Nice one, keep smacking this mess down and downgrading until the whole sicke wedding's denied; not oficaially approved.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 07, 2018, 04:18:21 pm
We have a new tax law starting this year which Megan's enemy Trump got passed and will help her make even more money as her tax bracket will go down.  But a lot of her deductions are going to get taken away here. However people making a lot of money are supposed to doing better with this new tax law. So maybe she should invite him to the wedding. He won't go for many reasons but one of them is I don't think Britain wants him there and I think he's sensitive to that since he cancelled the State trip.  In any event I still can't believe this is really happening and how Harry can make such a bad choice.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 05:40:28 pm
Revealed: The Christmas present Meghan Markle gave the Queen that left her in 'HYSTERICS' (and it was almost stolen by the corgis)
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According to the Daily Star Online, Meghan, 36, bought Her Majesty a singing toy hamster which, according to the paper, left the the monarch in 'hysterics'.   
A source said: 'Meghan bought a little hamster that sings with a little rope for Her Majesty.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5243909/Meghan-Markles-Christmas-present-Queen-revealed.html#ixzz53WMTOZym
Rubbish. IMO, Christmas was only about the pr photo op.

‘It hasn’t been easy. Meghan’s relationship with Harry has shone a spotlight on our family’: Meghan Markle's half brother blames drunken New Year's Eve brawl with his fiancee on scrutiny from his sister’s engagement
‘We’ve been under a lot of stress because of all the attention. At some point you find yourself drinking too much to escape the pressure.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5243881/Meghan-Markles-half-brother-blames-brawl-scrutiny.html#ixzz53WNNAATq
 :tehe: maybe he just likes to drink and brawl.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 07, 2018, 05:52:13 pm
Yeah blame it on the alcohol .maybe just maybe if they stop going to the press or giving the press what  they want they will be left alone .

Singer hamster,cute


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 07, 2018, 06:07:51 pm
^^^^iF this report is true (of Frogmore being denied for a reception) the reason is far more likely to be for security. Things have changed since 2008 when the Phillips had their after-wedding celebrations there.

 St George's Hall is no downgrade. It's actually part of Windsor Castle, which is far more prestigious than Frogmore, lovely though Frogmore is. St George's is a magnificent setting for any reception.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 06:20:02 pm
^true. He should learn the words; no comment.
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For the gravest threat the Crown faces today isn't republicanism but Hello!-ification: the excruciating way in which the younger Royals have joined in the appalling commercialised celebrity culture which dominates our benighted age.
"The Firm", as our monarch likes to say, turned out mob-handed, led by the Queen herself and Prince Philip.
Did they know that 60 pages of photographs of the wedding would immediately appear in Hello! magazine?
They can scarcely have failed to notice the cameras inside the chapel and then at the reception at Frogmore House, all for a reported £500,000 as a nice little wedding present.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1021316/Peter-Phillipss-Hello-wedding-Autumn-grasping-vulgar-damaging-Queen.html#ixzz53WVnrW1j
Gossip is that Meghan's been denied the carriage ride like Autom and Peter had at their wedding. Peter got int trouble because he sold the right to the wedding to Hello magazine. Don't be surprised if therre's an article regarding Mehgan wanting exclusive press coverage from the same magazine. The artice's really critical of the House of Windsor being dragged down to celebrity types. It did ook bad to see the whole affair spread accross the pages of Hello magazine though. Hard to believe that was a mere 10 years ago and the cost for the reception was £500,000. That couldn't be right unless they had to pay for the rental and the company to kit it out. Anyway, the royal family will get creamed the longer this farcegoes on and Mehgan seemingly demanding expensive things like the brides have gotten before her.
http://people.com/royals/you-will-never-believe-how-this-strange-smelling-harry-and-meghan-portrait-was-made/
This is a very dirty innuendo regarding skid marks on the carpet. It seems like every article regarding her alludes to sex or something crass.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 07, 2018, 06:50:03 pm
^ Gossip from whom? From Tumblr and Twitter, other online gossip sites? Autumn and Peter just had a carriage ride to Frogmore from St George's Chapel. They didn't go around the streets of Windsor, (in another direction) which is what will follow Harry and Meghan's church ceremony, and which followed Ed and Sophie's. As, according to this article, (and we don't know whether it's true) the reception is to be held within the Castle complex, then there'll be no need for a carriage ride to Frogmore.

As with other Royal weddings pub hours are likely to be extended on that weekend. The Home Office is beginning a four week consultation on various planning measures for this wedding including security arrangements.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42595480


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 07, 2018, 07:04:15 pm
I would like someone to answer my question either Pro or anti Meghan as to why the royal family is accepting her given all the junk and baggage she has compared to other people. The fact that she found the Royal Christmas exhausting is telling. I think she was on her good behavior obviously and that took a lot of effort to try and please that many people. Actresses are not used to having to please people they're used to being pleased unless it's a director or producer and depending on the weight of the actor they may not listen to them either. This is going to be a big lesson to Megan because when she goes out on Royal assignments she has to be humble to the public whether she likes it or not and that goes for any state functions excetera. This is something she's not used to now having been on Suits. And she is not going to like being dictated to. But that doesn't mean she won't  get used to it And tow the line.  Anything is Possible. Just explain to me why the royal family doesn't seem to see all of this or maybe they do and just don't care but why don't they care is my question. Is it because they're scared Harry's going to bolt. Thank you for listening.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 07:30:10 pm
^IMO, it's been about race from her from the beginning. That idiculous statement regarding her being attacked by social media and press trolls and basically calling people in the UK racists is why she's seemingly getting "accepted". It's smoke and mirrors thugh becuse I believe the royal family's playing the race card right back at her and when this farce comes to an end, she'll not be able to accuse anyone of racism. or anyone else as it seems like the world's gone pc and diversity mad. 
**the Home office should be using their time with sorting out the failed asylum criminals that need to be booted out of the UK. Besides, she'll not be able to get a spuse visa and it'll cause a justified riot if she's passed over the usual demands for a foreigner to marry a British person. Also, she'll need to again convert to COE, not to mention the IRS pocking around.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 07, 2018, 07:33:31 pm
If we're going with the theory that the Firm really isn't for this union, they can't show public disapproval without running the risk of being accused of racism. Add to that the stigma of Diana and it's pretty obvious why they would walk around on egg shells.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 07:50:46 pm
She might be a sociopath narc who threatened to harm herself if Harry dumps her. She reminds me of Amber Heard and Jodi Arias; crazy scary, cold.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 07, 2018, 09:01:31 pm
Harry is popular among members of the Royal Family, including Charles's siblings. They aren't afraid he's going to bolt. If he was going to do that he would have done it before now. IMO Meghan has been on her best behavior when meeting them and exhibited some charm and politeness, and interest in them all.

Charles smiled at her on the church steps. Waity and William were talking to her. I don't believe the BRF, especially the older members, read online gossip, or the Fail. Charles certainly doesn't, nor can I imagine the Queen doing so.

IMO they've welcomed Meghan because they believe she and Harry are happy together and will be happy together in future years, but I don't expect my explanation of why she's been accepted to be believed here on the forum.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 07, 2018, 09:51:02 pm
Despite all the naysayers, the royals might actually like Meghan. What goes on behind closed doors is known only to them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 07, 2018, 11:17:57 pm
Thanks for all the posts. I guess we'll never know what they really think. And like many families they probably don't tell each other what they really think. But whatever the reason Megan is being accepted at this point.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Byechoc on January 07, 2018, 11:21:22 pm
I believe like all you in the previous post that they like her, at least Charles, William, and Kate... and this is the ones that matter to Meghan!!!

I don't believe that Kate was fake during that walk on Christmas I believe that she was honest and happy.. she might take the show about clothes but she will take bad press and pressure from her


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 07, 2018, 11:41:59 pm
SEAL OF APPROVAL Meghan Markle’s dad hailed Prince Harry as ‘a gentleman’ as he dismissed rumours of family rift ahead of Royal Wedding
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5288925/meghan-markles-dad-hailed-prince-harry-as-a-gentleman-as-he-dismissed-rumours-of-family-rift-ahead-of-royal-wedding/

WOMAN WANTED TO MEG HER SAFE Royals seeking bodyguard to protect Meghan Markle would ‘prefer female’ like Kate Middleton’s
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ROYAL officials are seeking a highly-skilled female bodyguard to shadow Meghan Markle.
The recruit would join a team employed to protect Prince Harry and his fiancée.
Harry, 33, is thought to be among royals who would prefer Meghan, 36, to have a female guard — like her future sister-in-law Kate.
A source revealed: “Those in charge of security are hunting for an appropriate person.”
The Duchess of Cambridge, 35, was assigned a female police bodyguard, Sergeant Emma Probert, after she became engaged to Prince William in 2010.
Emma, 45 — a member of Scotland Yard’s Protection Squad — is trained in martial arts. She carries a 9mm Glock pistol and a Taser stun gun at all times.
The arrangement was said to have been suggested by Prince Charles.
It is thought Meghan’s bodyguard will start work with Sgt Prober.
The source continued: “Kate has grown very close to Emma over the years.
“They hit it off from the start and have gone on to build up a great relationship.
“So it is expected that a new female bodyguard would learn the necessary ropes with Emma first.
“It would be a trial period to make sure she is the right woman for the job.
“And if so, she would then be transferred to Meghan and Harry’s team.
“The difficulty the team face is there are far fewer female bodyguards available with the necessary skill-set than male bodyguards.
“But they are confident they can find someone to fit the bill.”
It is believed the new recruit would be the fourth female protection officer to be hired to guard the royal family.
The first was said to have been employed to protect Princess Diana and the second guarded Prince Edward.
A spokesman for Kensington Palace declined to comment last night.
Scotland Yard said: “We never comment on personal security.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5284747/meghan-markle-female-bodyguard-kate-middleton/
I've posted the entire article because I've read s few times that this article was posted before in the Express newspaper and disappeared. So she doesn't have a RPO. Just like Waity prior, she can't be trusted with a male RPO should the time comes.  :tehe:
Sickening thought, but Wills is the future and would be protected readily than Harry, so as mad as it'll be for the monarchy on a whole, harry could end up marrying this strumpet to keep his image at a rotten level as it is now as Wills and his Waity are seen as the regal royal couple that the monarchy should be about. Harry's always seemed to outshine Wills even when he has his mistakes and scandals but not with this lying woman at his side.
M


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 08, 2018, 01:17:58 am
She looks so much better in the suits photos then she doe in these other ones since she's left suits. Maybe she should hire those makeup people. In any event are they having female body guards because they don't trust the women to not sleep with them? I mean come on it can't be that hard to resist a bodyguard. But anyways I imagine there are many bodyguards at all times. My cousin was it a horsing event with Princess Anne and she was laughing about how before Princess Anne arrived the bodyguards were there. So there's more than one unless we're talking about one that lives with her and does everything with her except maybe toilet privileges. I have to admit I'm a bit uneducated on this aspect. By the way Princess Anne talked about sausages the whole time with my cousin. I know that's off-topic but I had to throw it in as I will never go on her thread even though she's my favorite.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 08, 2018, 04:35:16 pm
'Incredibly touched’: Harry and Meghan send fans into a frenzy with thank you cards (which are almost the SAME as Kate's birthday message)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5245957/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-send-thank-notes.html#ixzz53bzH3Piy
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 08, 2018, 04:54:50 pm
they really use the same words over and over Keen ,thrilled ,exciting ,touched  missing any?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 08, 2018, 05:01:01 pm
"It really was most thoughtful of you" or whatever it is - sounds dreadfully poncy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Grey Mare on January 08, 2018, 05:12:15 pm
I would like someone to answer my question either Pro or anti Meghan as to why the royal family is accepting her given all the junk and baggage she has compared to other people. The fact that she found the Royal Christmas exhausting is telling. I think she was on her good behavior obviously and that took a lot of effort to try and please that many people. Actresses are not used to having to please people they're used to being pleased unless it's a director or producer and depending on the weight of the actor they may not listen to them either. This is going to be a big lesson to Megan because when she goes out on Royal assignments she has to be humble to the public whether she likes it or not and that goes for any state functions excetera. This is something she's not used to now having been on Suits. And she is not going to like being dictated to. But that doesn't mean she won't  get used to it And tow the line.  Anything is Possible. Just explain to me why the royal family doesn't seem to see all of this or maybe they do and just don't care but why don't they care is my question. Is it because they're scared Harry's going to bolt. Thank you for listening.

What choice does the Royal Family have?  Unfortunately, they have to let Harry make this huge mistake and put a good face on it.  

Inviting Meghan for Christmas was a really smart move, and I give the Royal Family a lot of credit for inviting her. The Royal Family knows that Meghan is an inappropriate pick on a number of levels that have nothing to do with her race and that this marriage is not going to last.  But, by inviting her for Christmas, they covered themselves, so that when this marriage ends in a year or two Meghan won't be able to pull out the race card and say that she was never accepted.  In addition, the purpose of the Christmas invite was to give Meghan a glimpse into her future as to what her life is going to be like as a royal.  That glimpse was a wake up call in order to give her five months to decide if she really wants to go through with this marriage.  Because once she goes through with it, she will never be able to claim that she did not know or understand what she was in for, which once again takes the blame off of the Royal Family should this marriage end and end badly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 08, 2018, 05:33:22 pm
I believe like all you in the previous post that they like her, at least Charles, William, and Kate... and this is the ones that matter to Meghan!!!

I don't believe that Kate was fake during that walk on Christmas I believe that she was honest and happy.. she might take the show about clothes but she will take bad press and pressure from her

Does anyone like Meghan?  Does she have friends?  Real friends, not celebrity collector items.  The BRF is working an agenda.   I don't know what Harry is working, but he is the most miserable "groom in love" that I've ever seen.   Time will tell. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 08, 2018, 06:29:26 pm
If Harry did not love her or was miserable IMO he would have dumped her ages ago IMO. I think Harry wears his heart on his sleeve. I do think he loves her though. And I don't t hink he's the type to go into a marriage where he can't stand his bride to be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 08, 2018, 06:34:06 pm
Meghan's estranged sister says only a DISASTER would prevent their father walking the royal bride-to-be down the aisle in May
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5247145/Meghan-Markles-estranged-sister-confirms-wedding-details.html
^^ita with your entire post. Comments on the fan mail article keeps saying that this will be her 3rd marriage and for people to check out the Men's Health video where she's acting sleepy when cooking the burger.
There's so much negativity around this couple and wedding that will only get worse as time goes on.
It's gotten political and serious weather this is true or not. There's nothing wrong with having this train wreck postponed until after a Brexit or trade deal's struck thus avoiding all of this turmoil because this now effects people of the U.K., Harry's fellow citizens.
Donald Trump could demand an invitation to the royal wedding in return for a trade deal with the UK
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-could-demand-invitation-11813617


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 08, 2018, 07:18:42 pm
That video of them walking out of the church, I can't stop watching it. I don't know what it is: Meghan's lack of eye contact with Harry, she kept looking at William instead and Harry looked awkward trying to get her attention, and I didn't like Harry pointing towards the crowd  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 08, 2018, 07:28:33 pm
If Harry did not love her or was miserable IMO he would have dumped her ages ago IMO. I think Harry wears his heart on his sleeve. I do think he loves her though. And I don't t hink he's the type to go into a marriage where he can't stand his bride to be.

He doesn't look like a happy groom to be, imo. He looks increasingly sad and worried which is why I do hope Meggles loves him and not just the title, money and free publicity she will be getting. She's a hard one to like, because she has a hard nasty look about her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 08, 2018, 07:53:51 pm
^^^ I dunno, but I have a hard time believing that Trump really cares about Harry's wedding.   I don't know why this story has legs other than just the left's continuous anti-Trump push.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 08, 2018, 07:55:15 pm
I think the wedding story re: Trump will be put on the back burner until the feeding frenzy over the new book lessens.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 08, 2018, 11:16:53 pm
Her family is a menace but will the UK take even pay attention to them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on January 09, 2018, 06:37:45 am
In all honesty, every person who opts to marry into this lifestyle is a narcissist. There's no way around it. Regardless of how much charity "work" is performed the rewards are greater for all of all them. Right?

about DJT and that wedding, if he's not invited he will care and it will not be good. believe me. :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

My dear husband  just started reading this blog ( he's been deployed for a year & trying to wind down) and he has one  question; Did Meghan step on Harry's neck and put a gun to his head  to make him propose? and Who would be your choice for Harry now that everyone knows his type?(He's been asking everyone)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 09, 2018, 12:25:35 pm
A lot of it is superficial like what is she wearing, what about her hair, how does she photograph and so on. This happens to people who marry a royal especially a high profile one like Prince Harry. And even though she was on television, Meghan will have obviously more visibility and name recognition once she marries Harry (and being engaged to Harry gives her more name recognition).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Grey Mare on January 09, 2018, 02:14:09 pm
That video of them walking out of the church, I can't stop watching it. I don't know what it is: Meghan's lack of eye contact with Harry, she kept looking at William instead and Harry looked awkward trying to get her attention, and I didn't like Harry pointing towards the crowd  :laugh:

I noticed her doing that as well, even at Christmas.  I wasn't surprised by it.  Meghan has been married possibly twice and lived with at least two men that we know of and in all cases they were a means to an end to give her a step up.  It would not surprise me if she put herself in Harry's way in order to ultimately get to William.  William is the bigger prize and looking for the bigger better deal seems to be in her nature.  Even if she truly believes that she is in love with Harry at the moment and has no interest in William, she can not help what is second nature to her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 09, 2018, 02:57:07 pm
It is very difficult to cover up an "extra marriage." It is the age of the Internet and records do exist.  Certainly the royals staff went over her background with a fine tooth comb. If there was an extra husband they would have found him. She is recorded as living with only one man and married to another.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 09, 2018, 05:32:20 pm
I agree with Sandy on this. She was with her ex for a long long time, almost as long as K and W were together before they married. She married him while on Suits or just prior. She was a celebrity of sorts while on Suits before H. After she divorced her husband, it would be known if she married again. Before ex husband, she was pretty young, in her early 20s. Unless she snuck in a quickie and annulment, I don't see how she has a hidden marriage. Although she was in another State that may have strict record checks as opposed to California where she could have had a quick marriage and annulment, I don't see it. I had two friends who married and were annulled in a few months. Neither consider that a marriage and never say it was legitimate. So who knows, but I doubt there is a hidden second marriage around. There are live ins around, however. Fergie was a live in prior to Andrew as well. But there was only one I think. MM has been around living with men her whole adulthood. And she is no spring chicken by any means.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 09, 2018, 05:56:05 pm
Thought this fits here better:

The same TV report I just saw also said that H&M will move into "Diana's old apartment at KP" after marriage.

Which is a good possibility, considering that Charles used it after her death as his art studio or sth like that and inbetween was a charity in there? But anyway, since W&K&H have used it as their "offices" and it was said ages ago that H has "ear marked" an apartment for himself for the future, and taking an apartment and using it as office space sure as heck is a good way to ear mark it, would be awful if someone had moved in and would have to move out in favour of some poncy pretentious prince (and his wife), like people did for W&K at Anmer (the van Straubenzees or the van Cutsems? - and frankly the charity that was evicted at 1A at KP for them).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 09, 2018, 06:08:25 pm
^^No, I don't believe there's a hidden marriage and I don't think husband number one (or two) is that stupid.  It's entirely possible she got her annulment during her live in years with hubby one.  Takes 5 minutes for each in Mexico.  Baja is the only place in that part of the world it could have happened.  People in their 20s can do some stupid things. 

There's no law against it nor does it change anything but I can't count the number of people I know who got juiced up and did just that.  They actually pull you in in Mexico to get married or divorced.  It's encouraged and I've, personally, said no twice.  In Ensenada.  It's a great money maker for them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 09, 2018, 06:18:53 pm
 I knew a guy in law school that did just that with a stranger. And we were trying to figure out how to find her and get him divorced or annulled. So MM could easily have had that happen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 09, 2018, 06:28:57 pm
Meghan Markle closes social media accounts
Meghan Markle has chosen to close down her Instagram and Twitter accounts, Kensington Palace has confirmed.
Prince Harry's fiancee took the decision because the accounts "haven't been used for some time".
The move came after the royal couple made their first official visit in the capital.
They were greeted by crowds of well-wishers at community radio station Reprezent, in Brixton, which trains youngsters in media skills.
The organisation's CEO Shane Carey welcomed the visit saying: "We're having the spotlight shone on us from all the world's media."
Harry and Ms Markle also visited Pop Brixton, a community project housing local start-ups and restaurants.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42619509?ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter

those accounts should have been closed in November. what was she keeping them open for? she wasn't posting no more


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 09, 2018, 06:33:13 pm
^So she could close them dramatically?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 09, 2018, 06:38:21 pm
^ ahh yes  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 09, 2018, 06:56:58 pm
Why should it matter that she closes them down one way or another.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 09, 2018, 07:04:53 pm
^Well, one way would've been quietly, dignified and with no fuss, the other, announced and implying that she won't be a private person, her kazillion fans will be left bereft and how important she is now.  See the difference?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 09, 2018, 07:08:27 pm
^ ahh yes  :o

Yep.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 09, 2018, 07:10:22 pm
I just wish I didn't dislike her more with each day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 09, 2018, 08:42:11 pm
I swear this is like watching a train wreck.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 10, 2018, 03:46:41 pm
Never-before-seen image captures Meghan Markle as an awkward child - as her estranged sister says their dad needs financial help from future royal, but insists he won't let his 'bad leg' stop him walking her down the aisle
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Samantha also hit out at Meghan's mother Doria Ragland, claiming that she is to blame for the actress's lack of contact with her father, Thomas Markle, 73
She also noted that Thomas should be given plenty of credit for Meghan's success, and suggested the star should acknowledge this with financial support
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5254589/Never-seen-childhood-image-Meghan-Markle.html
Things keep getting tacky by the minute. Lets see how Meghan’s going to get out of this one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 10, 2018, 03:54:07 pm
Samantha to me sounds very bitter. It is the family's business about helping their father and Samantha could help him out without blasting her grievances to the media. IMO. If she did not get along with her stepmother it's a family matter. Doria keeps her mouth shut which is a good thing.  She is her half sister not sister.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 10, 2018, 08:10:13 pm
Why does Kensington Palace have to confirm every single move she makes? She's such an unbearable attention hog.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 10, 2018, 08:29:45 pm
^ It is in line with the age old Windsor motto "never complain, never explain" and KP complies with that! ... Oh hang on a minute... :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 10, 2018, 09:00:43 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4868720/amp/How-Meghan-appear-Harry-ahead-engagement.html
This article’s worth another read because it did say things about her will come out via America. This must be it because this woman and the rest of the half relatives can’t shut up. This has to be a game that started in earnestness with the statement last year. This nonsense plus Meghan getting the boot has to have an expiration date because this long going nonsense is making Harry and the royal family look like amateur fools being taken for a ride by the grifter and the test of her tacky family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 10, 2018, 10:30:48 pm
^Grifter is an apt word here. 

As for her relatives, not liking what they say or whether they speak is irrelevant.  They are not subjects, they are US citizens who are free to talk all they like, publish in any form, and say anything they like.  It's only libelous or wrong if it's nottrue.  This is yet another reason for the BRF to not have thought this was such a super duper idea.  Somebody really dropped the ball in looking at the massive amount of consequences, or they fell on deaf ears (my bet).

Is it classy?  No, but is that really expected?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 10, 2018, 10:37:26 pm
 The one I feel sorry for is Doria. Now with Samantha sniping at her. Doria does not deal with the media. Good for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 10, 2018, 10:47:36 pm
ROYAL APPROVAL Meghan Markle follows Harry Kane and Thibaut Courtois on Twitter – despite fiancee Prince Harry supporting Arsenal
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Royal bride-to-be followed Tottenham star and Chelsea keeper on social media before Kensington Palace closed down her account last night.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5307667/meghan-markle-follows-harry-kane-thibaut-courtois-twitter/
Her role model must be Victoria Beckham-a WAG.
My night with Meghan's boozy brother... and the fiancee who beat HIM up: an extraordinary encounter with the couple whose New Year's Eve ended with a police visit
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5256197/My-night-Meghans-boozy-brother.html
The tack fest continues.
I’m on the fence regarding her mum.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 10, 2018, 10:49:30 pm
^^ I feel sorry for her, too.  She's blown off at Christmas and not defended or praised when Harry opened his big mouth about the BRF being the family she never had.  That hurts.  She has to live with that in the news so her daughter can play the victim and be saved.  It's the worst thing you can do to a mother.  Or family.  They've all given that kid a lot so she could be where she is today.  Doria didn't do it all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 11, 2018, 01:54:11 am
^^ Why would she follow someone and then close down her account the next day, when she's "not used her social media in months"??


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 11, 2018, 03:48:57 am
^It was in the past prior to Harry it seems she was going after football players back then as she was fishing around Ashley Cole too. She wants to be like Victoria beckham a AG, imo. A WAG is a girlfriends/wife who basically lives a vapid lifestyle living off the success of their partner. Victoria did that for years off the success of David Beckham after the Spice Girls disbanded. Actually she still does today because her design business looses money each year and she relies on David to bail her out. I don't know if KP shut them down or she did because the press would go through her accounts and pull up conflicting information from the narrative she's painting with Harry now. IMO, she's way over exposed now becuase of her own pr push, her family constantly giving press interviews and articles focus on her even when Harry's around. As she considers herself a brand, she's useless because she's way overexposed to the point there's no mystery like other celebrities have.
This affair's such an ick factor that i can't see Wills and Waity going on tour at the end of the month and this nonsense is still in the press. The article about the rings she had on was nonsesne but I believe the point of it was to say what Mehgan is and what it's like to deal with someone like her. At the end of the day she's all fake Hollywood bs and harry's a "servant" of the people who has to ride a thin line between being a royal to use his position to bring awareess to causes and help out to being in the public eye. These are two different opposing positions, so that alone would cause any marriage between a celebrity and royalty major issues. In her case, she's got a suitcase of other reasons why she needs to get lost.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on January 11, 2018, 05:18:24 am
Samantha to me sounds very bitter. It is the family's business about helping their father and Samantha could help him out without blasting her grievances to the media. IMO. If she did not get along with her stepmother it's a family matter. Doria keeps her mouth shut which is a good thing.  She is her half sister not sister.

From what I've read that Samantha & her mom are quite the duo. It has been reported (also well known)that once Thomas Markle & Doria were married. Those two called Doria "the maid" or "the help", even after Meghan's birth. I don't care who you are, where you came from things like that demonstrate the character of a person. So regardless of what we see on the outside, what we read from gossip magazines and speculation from news sources. Those hard life lessons were instilled into Meghan. It's important to remember her love of food & cooking didn't begin with GOOP but from the fact that she took care of her Grandmother after she had a stroke.  Her Grandmother was her caretaker while her mom attended college. 
I'm willing to give her a chance not only because everyone deserves one. Because yesterday a DJ was surprised that Meghan came prepared. She knew names & backgrounds and they felt appreciated. (Hence the nervousness).

....now about these race war rhetoric  :stop: it please. anyone who lived in the US heard this in 2008 & 2012. there are really serious & scary things going on across this world but Meghan Markle isn't  it. Harry is about to be #6 in line to the throne.So again please  :stop: it & enjoy 2018  :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 11, 2018, 09:33:34 am
^ I disagree. I understand that MM needs to keep fabricating enemies so that she can appear like a damsel in distress that Harry must save and what better enemy than your own family - the family that she knows better than PH, and can lie through her teeth about. If she was to venture creating enemy from within PH's family, it would have backfired. She did try with the Yorkies and look at the comments.

I'm all for 2nd and 3rd and 4th chances but no need to give a chance to a snake to bite you. IMO, she's already shown her true colors, her attitudes, her aspirations for fame. The fact that not only the UK but from all over the world don't like her for a reason.  :bored: Time to accept that. No amount of tolerance and understanding can reform her fame hungry ways or her shady character. The world is not her mom, the world does not need to or have to understand her, pity her or give her anything. The world does not owe her anything. BRF does not owe her anything.

I'll also use this thread to answer to some of your other posts. No, marrying a royal does not mean that you have to be a narc. Narc is not a good thing, it's a mental health illness that is a burden to everyone who has and is burned by the narc's attention.

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But as my Grandmother would say, "They talked (spoke ill/ bad  about Jesus Christ. What makes you so special?"  
I especially wanted to answer this quote. There's a saying that my grandmother used to say: Some people read the new testament like the devil reads the Bible. I'm bad with quoting verses but there was somewhere a quote that there will always be someone who doesn't like you. What matters is that the good ones like you and the bad ones dislike you. Gosh, if someone can help with the verse, I'd appreciate it.

Anyway, I find it highly clingy to the white side of the family that Meghan is pictured with the same people that are said to be bad, not bowing down to her enough, not appreciating her for the amazing beauty and talent that she thinks she is, BUT there 's no pictures or meetings with Doria's side of the family. There's no black friends, there's no teenage photos of MM being happy with her darker skinned relatives.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 11, 2018, 10:31:07 am
Harry, I believe, is going to regret not taking the time to get to know The Sparkles Family much more intimately.  At least, in some cases, face to face.  Have a dinner or two or three first.  Same goes in reverse.  Do your research at least a little. 

Just believing stories or what MM says is not nearly enough.  Meeting a faction of the BRF isn't nearly enough either to make any judgment call.  These two are going headlong into this without any even a little below-the-surface understanding of how the other was raised nor the extended family dynamics.

I swear that if Harry wasn't in the position he's in and was, say, a multi-millionaire corporate King, this would've ended up a quickie Vegas wedding.  It has all the elements of that to it but with a patina of tradition, ancient buildings and attendees of stature only because those are the Rules in PH's life.  That's it.  The substance of the thing still feels hastily and cheaply constructed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 11, 2018, 11:00:58 am
^^There are no pictures of meetings and events with Doria's side of the family because, (with the exception of one divorced uncle),no Ragland cousins or other relatives, and certainly not her mother, have gone to the media and sold their stories or photos. Therefore there  are no photos of Meghan with darker skinned relatives/friends because they haven't chosen to behave like the Markle side of the family.

^^There's a great danger IMHO in taking the attitudes of people who comment in the DM and on certain Forums and Tumblr and Twitter sites as gospel.

There are over 64 million people in the UK, millions more in the Commonwealth and billions more overseas. I certainly don't believe that it is true that every single one of those individuals dislike Meghan Markle. That's just unrealistic.

When Harry and Meghan get married on May 19th this year there will be thousands at Windsor turning out to see the wedding and millions more watching it on TV in Britain and overseas. That's just the reality.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: annecros on January 11, 2018, 11:51:51 am
I think it is a case of the Raglands being much more dignified than the Markles. I think Meghan's Dad just wants to be alone, if truth be told. To be fair, the ONLY Markle we are hearing from is a step sister. And as a member of a combined family, things do get strange with ex wives, etc, in the mix. Consider the times as well. Interracial marriages were not as common at the time, and were not as universally accepted as they are now. There would not have been big, happy, unified Christmases, in most of these situations. After all, the Brady Bunch was never real.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5140059/Meghan-Markles-parents-Tom-Dorias-wedding-revealed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5140059/Meghan-Markles-parents-Tom-Dorias-wedding-revealed.html)

This marriage is not going to spark off a race war in my opinion. Or at least I would hope that the social fabric in the UK would hold together in spite of a white guy marrying a biracial girl he was in love with.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 11, 2018, 12:57:04 pm
 A very MEGHAN makeover? How Prince Harry has swapped uniform of staid suits and off-duty polo shirts for stylish layering since falling for the star (and they even colour co-ordinate)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5251705/Prince-Harrys-style-makeover-Meghan-Markle.html
Except when he’s not around her he reverts back to himself. IMO, it’s like he’s playing a role when he’s with her hence his demeanor changes as well as his wardrobe.

Gone, but not forgotten! As Meghan Markle deletes social media, FEMAIL reveals her best, and final, posts - from poignant quotes and bikini snaps to the first hints at a romance with Prince Harry
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5256731/Meghan-Markles-final-Instagram-posts-revealed.html
It shows her narcissism, hypocrisy, etc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 11, 2018, 01:46:43 pm
^^Maybe not a race war although I've yet to see any signs of a complete cease fire there, but I am fairly certain that most media surrounding this couple will be about race, racism, betterment, stagnation, change, not change, driven by the US media.  It is the subject du jour every single day and this is a bullseye for their narrative.

It's hard to blame them.  The BRF are the most visible advert group on Planet Earth for the so-termed "White Privilege".  The press can't believe their luck with this union and will have a field day.  Every day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 11, 2018, 02:06:42 pm
Gone, but not forgotten! As Meghan Markle deletes social media, FEMAIL reveals her best, and final, posts - from poignant quotes and bikini snaps to the first hints at a romance with Prince Harry

    Meghan, 36, shut down her Twitter, Facebook and Instagram accounts this week — nine months after she shuttered her website, The Tig
    Her decision to close her social media accounts is in line with her changing status, as she will soon become Prince Harry's wife 
    Senior members of the monarchy do have official Twitter and Instagram accounts, but they are run by the social media teams of their households
    Meghan's former Instagram page was filled with inspiring quotations, stunning travel photos, and plenty of selfies


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5256731/Meghan-Markles-final-Instagram-posts-revealed.html

Somehow they seem to have forgotten that what was once online, it is forever online.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on January 11, 2018, 02:59:07 pm
^ I disagree. I understand that MM needs to keep fabricating enemies so that she can appear like a damsel in distress that Harry must save and what better enemy than your own family - the family that she knows better than PH, and can lie through her teeth about. If she was to venture creating enemy from within PH's family, it would have backfired. She did try with the Yorkies and look at the comments.

I'm all for 2nd and 3rd and 4th chances but no need to give a chance to a snake to bite you. IMO, she's already shown her true colors, her attitudes, her aspirations for fame. The fact that not only the UK but from all over the world don't like her for a reason.  :bored: Time to accept that. No amount of tolerance and understanding can reform her fame hungry ways or her shady character. The world is not her mom, the world does not need to or have to understand her, pity her or give her anything. The world does not owe her anything. BRF does not owe her anything.

I'll also use this thread to answer to some of your other posts. No, marrying a royal does not mean that you have to be a narc. Narc is not a good thing, it's a mental health illness that is a burden to everyone who has and is burned by the narc's attention.

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But as my Grandmother would say, "They talked (spoke ill/ bad  about Jesus Christ. What makes you so special?"  
I especially wanted to answer this quote. There's a saying that my grandmother used to say: Some people read the new testament like the devil reads the Bible. I'm bad with quoting verses but there was somewhere a quote that there will always be someone who doesn't like you. What matters is that the good ones like you and the bad ones dislike you. Gosh, if someone can help with the verse, I'd appreciate it.

Anyway, I find it highly clingy to the white side of the family that Meghan is pictured with the same people that are said to be bad, not bowing down to her enough, not appreciating her for the amazing beauty and talent that she thinks she is, BUT there 's no pictures or meetings with Doria's side of the family. There's no black friends, there's no teenage photos of MM being happy with her darker skinned relatives.


1. WTH? ???  Creating enemies? ???   Race Wars?  ???
  -  I just believe that it was and still is disgusting that her mom was called "the help" or "the maid".
   - On the topic of family . . . it is for good reasons family reunions aren't yearly events. Everyone has family members we wish could disown. :shy: :shy: :shy:
2. First things first, it isn't wise to be in the presence of snakes (legless, carnivorous reptiles or humans).
   -  In Real Life THERE IS NOTHING TO ACCEPT, relax there is no need to be so invested dishing is supposed to be fun :bouncy:
  
3. My apologies, I shouldn't have used narcissist . The correct term is  Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) -wants to be the center of attention in any group of people, and they feel uncomfortable when they are not.

4. The reason you see pictures of the Markles and very few of the Raglands is probably Doria is the ultimate decider of how, what, and when they will be released.
   She appears to be a private person.

I've always believed that you can think positive just as well as you can think negative. James A. Baldwin



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on January 11, 2018, 03:20:14 pm

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But as my Grandmother would say, "They talked (spoke ill/ bad  about Jesus Christ. What makes you so special?" 
I especially wanted to answer this quote. There's a saying that my grandmother used to say: Some people read the new testament like the devil reads the Bible. I'm bad with quoting verses but there was somewhere a quote that there will always be someone who doesn't like you. What matters is that the good ones like you and the bad ones dislike you. Gosh, if someone can help with the verse, I'd appreciate it.[/quote]

Unsure if you're being shady or just plain nasty but I'm definitely sure you picked the wrong day to do it. The verse I mentioned was the one that my Grandmother instilled into all of her children as they marched for the right to vote, equal education, better living conditions, better pay, and the list goes on and on. Not only was it uttered she demonstrated in actions. She not only believed, she lived it. The meaning of the quote is simple Jesus Christ was the Son of God and people cursed him, beat him, betrayed him and eventually killed him...and HE WAS JESUS. So whatever Tina, Donna, Lisa and Marie are saying about you doesn't matter focus on the matter at hand, those same people will doing the same thing tomorrow at the same time at the same place.

Well today I lost her at the age of 98 and I am deep in my feelings because she was more than a Grandmother, she truly was my everything.
My sincere apologies for going off topic but my heart is full.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 11, 2018, 03:24:45 pm
^ I'm so sorry for your loss, ohmy. Your grandmother sounds a wonderful person and she spoke the truth. There will always be negativity and naysayers about others, whether they're in public life or not, and IMO it is just so much better to try and see the good in people. Sending you my prayers and best wishes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 11, 2018, 03:55:32 pm
^^My sincere condolences and I wish that you would feel that you could come to me (or Alex) in a private message if you have any concerns or are deeply offended by another poster's remarks.  i cannot speak for Ariel but I cannot imagine that the intent was to cause harm.  If I have read this wrong, kindly correct me.  With warmest affection.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 11, 2018, 05:37:17 pm
I have a question:   Why do so many posters here and in other forums think that Doria is all that and a bag of chips?   Anybody know anything about her?  Does she have any kind of a personality?  Has she made an impact on anyone's life other than giving birth to and raising Meggles?  And since Meggles has turned out to be such an attention-hungry, social-climbing, people-using, gold digger, isn't that a negative against Doria's mothering skills?



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 11, 2018, 05:53:36 pm
^ I don't agree that Meghan has been any more attention-hungry than any other actress (and that's the nature of their business, to a large extent.) If you climb above your beginnings in the US that's considered social climbing? I thought getting ahead in life was admired! Her sister Samantha certainly uses people, namely her sister, and has done so since last November. If Meghan was such a gold digger she would have applied for alimony when she and Trevor divorced. She asked for nothing in her petition except the restoration of her maiden name.

Doria works as a social worker for Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services in California, (has done so for several years) so, IMHO, I'd say she has had an impact on many people's lives. This particular organisation is not a not-for-profit one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 11, 2018, 06:02:06 pm
^^I guess people can respect Doria and her side of the family because she is not in the news or seeking attention because her daughter is marrying a famous, rich man.

When are parents no longer responsible for their offspring's actions? Is it Doria's fault that her daughter is an "attention-hungry, social-climbing, people-using, gold digger" as you say she is? I don't think so; Meghan developed those straits all on her own or she may not even be like that - the social-climbing, people-using and gold digger part. :tehe:

We can see with our own eyes that she is definitely attention-hungry, just by how she acts when visiting a charity with Harry. I knew it with the Vanity Fair article.  :sob:

This the woman Harry chose and I don't think the wedding is going to be called off. He is enamored with Megs because she is attractive, in his eyes, and she boosts his ego which makes him feel loved.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 11, 2018, 06:10:54 pm
^ Doria's lack of information can be 1) dignified; or 2) the sign of a boring personality.   That's what I'm trying to determine.

^^ Yes, Wikipedia tells us that Doria is a social worker and a yoga instructor.  You would think she has impacted some lives; wouldn't you?  Where are the stories of that impact?

I remember when Diana came on the scene and stories came out about how good she was with children (at the kindergarten and the American lady she nannyed for).   Her father told some stories about her childhood.   Her teachers told some stories.  In other words, we got a snapshot into her life.   When Sarah came on the scene, we heard about all her boyfriends including the one she lived with, and her horsemanship, and her boisterous, colorful personality -- the other side of the coin to Diana, in other words.

Doria's staying mute while allowing the half-sister to put whatever out there really isn't doing Meggles any favors.  Where are the good stories?   Perhaps even mom can't come up with any?   Now's the time to talk, mom.  So, I wonder if Doria is simply a quiet, even boring personality who can't be bothered.   How will she deal with a royal wedding? 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 11, 2018, 06:19:46 pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/stories-42460315
This is what’s going on with Harry and Meghan’s relationship, IMO. This is why he looks stressed out and again my opinion is that this is allowed to play out for a bigger reason. Yooper’s post is spot on regarding “white privilege” but in this case I feel that Meghan’s not the right fit at the end game because she uses her white side to push a lifestyle of success and entitlement and only acknowledges her black side to play victim. She didn’t get the black people in Brixton out to see her because they see her as fake and “white passing” so she’s a failure. People see what she’s about and it’s all self serving for her.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/902315/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Royal-family-engagement-London-radio-station-today
She’s very controlling as she’s always hanging onto Harry and we’ve seen how she was during the engagement interview and how she interrupted him during the Brixton interview.
They’re visiting Wales on January 18th. Why continue on with this when she’s not liked and acts like she’s a major star and Harry’s her side kick.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-42648032
People of Wales are tough and straight talking so they’ll not put up with her fake nonsense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 11, 2018, 06:22:00 pm
I'm also curious about Doria because according to Meghan's rise to fame story she grew up at her dad's workplace. Where was Doria at this time.

ohmy, I sent you an apology in private message. I was never ever trying to offend you or your family member - not in my post, not in my thoughts and not in my heart. If my message offended you in any way, please accept my apologies and my condolences for your grandmother. I am also not offended at your suggestions in your message to me. I understand that at such times the emotions are on high and I'd like to extend my kindest invite to be forum friends, regardless of who we favor today or tomorrow.

As for Doria being called "the help", I did not see or read this anywhere and there's lots of information leaked about Meghan on tumblr. Where did you read / hear that? The ex will always, always find ways to demean the new woman in a man's life and if she can use the kids to send offences to the new woman, she will. If Doria was white, she would have found another demeaning words to use to describe her. Not an excuse at all, but - where did you hear how Samantha's mom used to call Doria?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 11, 2018, 06:28:59 pm
^Thank you. 

And, yes, Sparkle’s dad was the one who was the funding source of support.  Doria’s starting to raise red flags for me, too. 

^^^^Ambition is extremely admired and encouraged in the US.  Through hard work which is what we do, perhaps to excess.  But, not by using other people or their influence and then discarding them to step higher.  In fact, it’s despised because the honest, hard worker with talent represents the good in us so we admire and aspire to be like them.  There is nothing to admire in Meghan Markle.  She is the worst of us.

Even in the entertainment industry it can be found.  Quite rare, though, which is another reason to be very wary of the machinations built into the whole business.  Everything, including personal integrity and decency, is for sale.  All the time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 11, 2018, 06:37:10 pm
IMO Doria and the rest of the family that been trotted out into the media are all shady and greedy for money.
She’s not liked or is popular and Harry’s been dragged down by his associating with her and is seen complicit in her celebrity ways. She’s quite nauseating to watch even for a few minutes and the British people are really getting ticked off to have this woman shoved down their throats on a daily basis. This celebrity push is not the British or royal way, so she’s not being rolled out to be a future royal bride. In comparison, Waity seems more regal and royal and what the monarchy should stand for even though she’s really not, but is better and tolerable than this mess, Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 11, 2018, 07:17:44 pm
Here is a piece of advice Meggles told Glamour Doria gave her:

She told Markle "never give the milk away for free" with regards to men.  The Suits actress said that she doesn't wear revealing clothes because of the advice that her mother shared when she was a teenager.

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/culture/culture-news/a44123/doria-ragland-meghan-markles-mum/

Nooooo. . . . ??  Unbelieveable!   Meggles has not only given away the milk, but she sold the heifer, too!    :laugh:

Here's another farradiddle, Meggles told the media:

Meghan stated recently that because her mother is black with dreadlocks and Meghan passes for white, there was always people rudely questioning whether Doria was actually Meghan’s biological mum.


http://meghanmarklemother.com/

Well, that's just nonsense.  There have been plenty of pictures of Meggles as a child, and she was quite obviously mixed race.  It wasn't until she had surgery and straightened her hair, etc. as an adult that she "passed for white" . . . as Meggles puts it.  This, in my opinion, shows that Meggles is consumed with race.  Why dwell on this?  I know many bi-racial couples and their children, as I'm sure all of you do.  This is more made up nonsense by Meggles to make it seem that people were rudely coming up to her on the street making remarks.  Nobody does that in our society today and certainly not in California, for Pete's sake.

And somewhere in all of the above, Meggles remarks that her mother is a "free spirit" because she wears dreadlocks and a nose ring.  Oh. . . wow.  'Cause NOBODY wears dreadlocks and nose rings.   

And, still, we have no real information regarding Doria -- this is all very telling re Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 11, 2018, 07:35:19 pm
@Yooper. I definitely don't admire her.  :thumbsdown: I would admire her if she wasn't attention-hungry with that Vanity Fair article and it really shows now with how she acts in public with Harry. I don't even care that she is divorced or was an actress. Someone got upset with me on the DM because I counted how many times she waved. Waving like an idiot is excessive especially if people are trying to talk to you and you keep turning around to wave, rude.

@windsor2, in a way, the constant articles about Meghan on the DM are a way of getting people to dislike her because the public are being bombarded by this Meghan Mania and they don't see her as special, which I say good on the DM.  :thumbsup:

In comparison, Waity seems more regal and royal and what the monarchy should stand for even though she’s really not, but is better and tolerable than this mess, Meghan.

I loved this ^. Even though we know Kate is a low bar to set yourself for anyway, she looks so much better than Meghan and that is very telling.  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 12:28:35 am
What is Meghan Markle’s net worth?
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Before her engagement to Prince Harry, Meghan was best known for her role as Rachel Zane on the television showSuits.
Meghan was making more than $50,000 (£37,000) per Suits episode and her annual salary totalled $450,000 (£333,000), which included money gained from acting and sponsorship opportunities.
Meghan net worth is currently at $5 million (£3.7m), according to Celebrity Net Worth.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5258341/What-Meghan-Markles-net-worth.html
This is very bad if she has all of that money but can’t help out her mum and dad because she tries to paint herself a humanitarian but seems to forget that charity starts at home.
Is this a prelude to how she supplements her income at Soho House because her money might be tied up/not readily available.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 12, 2018, 02:02:58 am
What Meghan's rings really say about her: How the art of 'ring palmistry' can decode the stars' insecurities and desires by the bling on their fingers

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5260879/What-Meghans-rings-really-say-her.html

I guess the verdict is she's controlling and seeks power and recognition - and is like Vic Beckh in that regard! :sigh:
It's science! :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 02:52:05 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5260453/Donald-Trump-cancels-visit-Britain.html
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The President was not due to meet the Queen until a full state visit at a later date, and a second source said the lack of ‘bells and whistles’ and royal involvement next month visit may have discouraged him.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5260453/Donald-Trump-cancels-visit-Britain.html#ixzz53w12ToLL
It's a shame that Mehgan doesn't stay in the States too.
^that's the 2nd article that states she's a control freak and would be a controlling wife.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 12, 2018, 03:28:48 am
She certainly is a grasping conceited greedy camera hog.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 12, 2018, 03:50:01 am
OMG I am so sick of this woman.   :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Snowpea on January 12, 2018, 03:54:52 am
Everyone is sick and tired of her.  :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on January 12, 2018, 04:20:29 am
It’s not a shame at all that she doesn’t stay in America. Take her Britain! From our hearts to yours. :loveshower: :loveshower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 12, 2018, 05:11:46 am
I am not surprised at the comments about Doria's mother, if the rumors are true. A lot of kids don't like their step-parent, blame them for making it so their parents don't get back together, etc. And of course their mom is their dad's ex, and a lot of times people say stuff about the new partner in their ex's life. Not that it's a good thing--I am no fan of talking badly about your child's other parent in front of them--but it happens all too often. And much-younger siblings can also be a source of resentment, because the older siblings watch them grow up in an intact home with both of their parents, wishing they could have that in their own lives. I know Meghan's parents ended up divorcing when she was young, but those first few years of her life, I can see how that stuff would happen in a lot of families.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 12, 2018, 08:55:50 am
A day or so after telling Meghan off about their father Tom Samantha is begging Meghan to forgive the nasty remarks she's publicly given her in the last months. Boy someone wants a wedding invitation really really badly!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5261551/Meghan-Markles-sis-Samantha-asks-forgive-nasty-comments.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 12, 2018, 10:40:59 am
^ Yes, she's clearly low on dignity and morals but she used to be in the entertainment business before she got tied to the chair with a mental illness. I'd expect her to flip flop on her opinions about Meghan so that she can get some interest in her, her book, and of course, get some income.

I'd also like to comment on Doria being called "the help". If she worked as maid in her youth then bad luck offending her with her job title cause that's what she did, not who she is. Personally, if an ex of my man called me "the maid" I'd simply say that I was born to be a housewife, I'm natural at it and that's what attracted X to me. Then I'll follow up with: Did youuuu want me to help you with tips about keeping your house clean? 8)

As for what kind of woman would enter BRF, we have a thread about it and I'll post something interesting that I found on the internet there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 12, 2018, 12:26:00 pm
I hope someone does an intervention on Samantha. She is being very self destructive with her media comments.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 03:40:13 pm
Prince Harry ‘blackmailed over Meghan’

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If the prince wants to protect Meghan’s secrets, it’s going to cost him!
Just days after they stepped out for their first public engagement of 2018, reports have emerged that Prince Harry is allegedly the target of a cunning blackmail plot by a relative of his fiancée, Meghan Markle.


The mystery member of the Markle clan is claimed to be threatening to reveal some of the Suits actress’s most embarrassing secrets, along with intimate photos and home videos of the star unless the royal family cough up some serious cash. That’s according to a report out of the US today.

The crooked relative is said to be demanding US$1.5 million a year in hush money…for life, according to National Enquirer.

“The message was very clear: Harry, if you want to protect Meghan’s privacy, it’ll cost you a pretty penny,” an insider claiming to have seen emails sent to Buckingham Palace reveals.

“Otherwise, this disgraceful person promised to release damaging information on Meghan until they were financially set for life.”

A source close to the British monarchy stated: “Harry is incredibly protective and will defend his bride at all costs, but these intimidation tactics just won’t fly with the palace.”

The same alleged relative is also believed to have brokered a five figure deal with British investigators in exchange for the location of the Mexican village where Meghan’s father, Thomas Markle has been hiding out.

“It’s disgraceful,” a source told the publication.

“How low does someone have to be to blackmail a prince and betray your own flesh and blood?”

The sinister blackmail plot throws a spanner in the works into the plans of Britain’s MI5 to wipe clean any trace of Meghan’s hard-partying past.

In a mission dubbed ‘Operation Clean Up,’ the British Intelligence Service is alleged by the Enquirer to have been scouring America and Canada for months, silencing anyone who could potentially reveal the actresses not so squeaky clean past with cash and nondisclosure agreements.

“It’s extremely troubling for Harry that so much has already come out about Meghan.

“It doesn’t bear thinking about what’s still to unfold.”
The Palace has yet to respond to the Enquirer’s claims.

Not so confident after all! Body language expert reveals how Meghan touches her hair in public to stay calm under pressure - as it's the adult version of 'clutching a mother's skirt'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5262921/Body-language-expert-reveals-Meghan-touches-hair.html
Such bs.
The National Enquirer has the blackmail story on the newsstands. It’s an American tabloid that has broken scandals that seemed rubbish but turned out to be true such as John Edward’s affair when he was running for president a while back.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 12, 2018, 03:49:40 pm
My gut about Doria is she is a simple woman that is very people and help oriented. She did work in the entertainment industry that is where she met her husband. But she was at the Blue Collar part of it. So she doesn't have aspirations herself of being Grand  She is some sort of a social worker and yoga teacher. Both of those are the helping fields or the make you feel good professions. She is described by Megan's friends as a free spirit. My guess is she's a typical New Age type woman who has helped a lot of people simply. She is never going to throw her only child under the bus of course she's quiet. And she may have had a job as a maid but so what Diana had a job as a maid. She may be the help because she actually helps people and she's sincere unlike her daughter. I don't know if she's from LA or from some other state. But if she is from some other states she came to La Looking For Freedom and I may be a little excitement in the entertainment industry and found it in the helping  careers. Meghan was raised in La where it is encourage to Aspire to be in the entertainment industry in the center of attention. many young women are like that here and certainly come from all over the world for that reason.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 12, 2018, 04:23:24 pm
^ I think she was said to be from the south or her family is from the south.

^^With her family's questionable morals it's a mystery which one of them is ready to sell even more information on MM

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The sinister blackmail plot throws a spanner in the works into the plans of Britain’s MI5 to wipe clean any trace of Meghan’s hard-partying past.

In a mission dubbed ‘Operation Clean Up,’ the British Intelligence Service is alleged by the Enquirer to have been scouring America and Canada for months, silencing anyone who could potentially reveal the actresses not so squeaky clean past with cash and nondisclosure agreements.

It's interesting how MI5 is turned into Santa Claus with money in an envelope.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 04:33:53 pm
^ Send them my way. I'll take  the cash and run my mouth still...  :laugh: 8) How does The National Enquirer know the name of the operation?  It could well be called Operation Conjob for all we know...jeepers, if MI5 came to me I'd go straight to the press and claim I need a witness... wouldn't you? :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 12, 2018, 04:40:18 pm
So basically this article is confirming that Meggles has a dirty past that needs serious clean up.

Good to know.

Stupid, stupid Harry.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 04:48:11 pm
And why aren't MI5/6 sending people to silence us talking about KM being con artists esp with what we put on the Members Only Board? If  :James: could threaten The Chocolate Princess by claiming to be a barrister why can't/won't the real authorities? They can easily find out who I am... easily. :o I'm not sure I believe this story even though it is believable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 05:06:19 pm
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'The expectations for an actress are different than for those of a member of the royal family,' she said.

'The former are assumed and expected to seek the limelight while royalty is expected to demonstrate a lower and more subdued profile while staying true to their true character.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5262921/Body-language-expert-reveals-Meghan-touches-hair.html
This is the point of the article because it’s very true.
The blackmail story could be true because women like Meghan who chase rich and connected guys would’ve done  some nasty things to climb the social ladder. The DM basically called her a Soho House girl and Marcus her pimp. Why hasn’t she made a complaint if that wasn’t true. Harry could get out of this by saying he'strying to protect her and doesn’t know the full details about what she did because he’d have said that that was in the past. Also, during the engagement interview, didn’t he say that whatever comes their way they’re a team. IMO, it seems like this is a setup to out her nasty self and to stop from playing her games in the press and dragging high profile people into it.
MI5/6 are not to be played with and wouldn’t pay anyone off with money. They mess you up in bigger ways. I hope Meghan will be a guest of Mr Trump’s holding facilities in the US known as a jail cell because I’m sure she’s doing/done some criminal things.
^true, but we’re not a threat to the royal family and are just voicing our opinions because we care about Harry and the monarchy and *despise* to see a grifter like Meghan damage him and his family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 12, 2018, 05:13:44 pm
^ Well, if the tumblr rumors are correct her mom was 12 years behind bars and that's why Samantha is claiming that she raised her. Trevor is a former client of Meghan. Her father is on a no-fly list to US and is hiding in Mexico for trafficking.  If any of this is true, her being mixed race or a divorcee or an actress is the least of her problems.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 05:15:40 pm
^^Are you saying they are INVESTIGATING sparkles? Because if they did/do they would have found quite a lot of dirt by now. There is no way they can find ALL of it as some people on this forum claim, but they would have found out a lot. And wouldn't they present such evidence to PH?  To PC and the Queen?

^ I'm sorry, I missed this info... Her mum was behind bars? I thought she is a hippie guru/social worker? Do you have a link please?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 12, 2018, 05:25:35 pm
http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-items-revealed-1_12.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 05:36:37 pm
^^imo, who says that they haven’t and will use it to finally get this chick exposed and to get lost. IMO, it’s still not clear how she met Harry and what the true nature of their relationship is. The only connection is Soho House and if he was a client of hers, it would’ve been a bit bad but not too much because he’s a single man. Was she deliberately place in Harry’s path to have this scenario play out? Quite possibly because this odd relationship has gotten people to talk about a lot of issues such as race, class, dealing with divorce and the Church of England, diversity, acceptance, class system, foreign born person marrying into the royal family, modernizing of the monarchy, social media, pushing boundaries, etc.
The ultimate ending is her being booted back to the States and into obscurity.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 05:43:14 pm
^ That is  what I said many months ago. She and KM have benefactors if you will... your words to 'place her in his path' can apply to both M Markle and KM. The third party. I believe I know exactly who the third party is and why it's being done. The question is who do others think would go through the trouble of plotting against PH by placing MMarkle in his path? And why?    :cookie:

Although we probably have difference of opinions on his matter, these are mine. I am not trying to put words in your mouth if it sounded that way. :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 12, 2018, 05:43:44 pm
@BlinditemCDAN
Spencer tiara was my guess too, but now i'm thinking she will have one made from one of Di jewles


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: D.I.R. on January 12, 2018, 06:07:29 pm
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Meghan Markle just proved her dominance over Kate Middleton, to the tune of $677 million

Tanza Loudenback


meghan markle kate middleton The "Meghan Effect" is in full force. Chris Jackson/Getty Images

    Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are to be married in May.
    Their wedding is expected to give an estimated $677 million boost to the British economy.
    Kate Middleton's fashion-icon status contributed an estimated $205 million to the economy in 2015.


We're still four months away from the May 19 wedding of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry, but the "Meghan Effect" is already in full force.

Like Kate Middleton before her, Markle's entrée into the royal family is expected to bring a huge boost to the British economy, this time to the tune of $677 million (£500 million).

That's according to an estimation by Brand Finance, reported by Forbes, which calculated the expected profits from a surge in tourism, travel, restaurants, hotels, parties and celebrations, and the sales of T-shirts, hats, banners, and other commemorative merchandise related to the royal wedding.

Around the time of the last royal wedding, in 2011, the phenomenon was deemed the "Duchess Effect" or the "Kate Effect": Anything worn by Middleton, and now her children, flies off the shelves. Middleton effectively became a trendsetter overnight.

But the royal reverberations continue far beyond the months surrounding the nuptials.

In 2015, the Kate Effect brought more than $205 million (£152 million) to the British economy, while the "Charlotte Effect" and the "George Effect" translated to over $239 million (£177 million) combined, Brand Finance estimates.

kate and meghan 1 Markle wore this Diane von Furstenberg dress to a charity gala five years before Middleton wore it. Getty Images Entertainment/Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images

But Markle, a fixture on red carpets in the US and recently described as "a singular mover of product" by The New York Times, could have even wider influence and fiscal effect than her future sister-in-law.

The 36-year-old actress led a surprisingly relatable life — which included sharing photos of her friends and family, clothes, and travels on her now deleted Instagram and blog — before recently rocketing to global fame. And Markle's American citizenship, along with the few years she spent living in Canada while shooting television drama "Suits," could expand her global fan base. Her style is also decidedly trendier and less traditional than Middleton's.

After Markle and Prince Harry's engagement was announced, the couple posed for photos at Kensington Palace in London. She wore a coat by the Canadian fashion brand Line, a brand beloved by Canadians, but fairly obscure outside the country. Soon after the brand was identified, its site slowed or crashed for many visitors.

All things considered, 2018 is set to be a banner year for the British royal family as they're expected to drum up more than $2.4 billion (£1.8 billion) for the country's economy, according to Brand Finance.

http://www.businessinsider.com/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-bring-millions-to-the-british-economy-2018-1

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Inside Meghan Markle & Kate Middleton's Wild Night Out
December 27, 2017 14:29PM
They snuck out to have a girls’ night at Soho House in London.

Kate Middleton and Prince Harry‘s fiancée Meghan Markle are already getting close! According to a source, the Dutchess has taken the Suits star “under her wing.” Click through for details about their close friendship!
https://okmagazine.com/photos/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-friends/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 06:20:21 pm
deGuernsey, as long as she doesn’t marry in but is used to discredit what I believe she used against Harry and the royal family, then I don’t care, but to have this end in marriage would end the monarchy. Waity at least was British and was around Wills for years before she married him. That was a mistake but at least it’s not as bad as this cheap narcissistic foreigner marrying in. She’s not liked and isn’t getting advice or anything else from the palace and Harry looks like a man going along with whatever she wants. At least with Waity there was some sort of love there unlike hers 2 where there’s none. I do believe that some brides who marry into royalty are put there by powerful people who’ll benefit from the union, so it’s a very valid point of view. Andrew won’t benefit or his kids at this union like I once thought, so only the republican movement will.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 06:26:40 pm
^ Do you rhink sge blackmailed her way in? It's always possible that was a part of how she got this far... unfortunately, I believe it was more sinister... it was in part an effort to end the monarchy.  I said it before and i will say it again, I will be shocked if this marriage goes through... I do feel it is not kosher but rather another conjob against the Winds boys/men... are we allowed to write these things here on thoos thread? 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 12, 2018, 06:30:24 pm
D.I.R. I don't believe they will make the UK that much money by their wedding. Nor do I believe it will cost more than waity's. Nor do I believe Waity and MM are close. They are very different types.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 12, 2018, 06:33:25 pm
Not sure she can even wear Diana's Spencer tiara, they have several tiaras and that particular one is likely for the Earl's wife and daughters(-in-law) only. Diana at the time was the daughter of the then current Earl, so had every right to wear it.

^ Agree. Bill and Waity's wedding didn't really make any money either (it is said it actually caused a big fat minus, no plus in sight) and the viewing numbers from people watching it on TV (worldwide) were grossly exaggerated as well.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 06:41:39 pm
 Hope they don't also try to push for a princess title in her own right or create a new ducal title for PH such as the Duke of Brixton so she can be different, special. ... esp if it is Welsh or Northern Eire. Something non traditional... if they do I know someone is behind her...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 06:50:56 pm
Prince Harry Blackmailed Over Marriage To Meghan Markle — Royals' Reputations At Risk! bit.ly/2qYyYA2
That’s regarding the National Enquirer blackmail article.
The big football match is on May 19th so money will come solely from that and not the wedding which should happen.
^there could be someone behind her but why would Harry go along with it especially as she’s a foreigner who’ll need a visa and that’ll raise the further anger of the people if she’s waived through the process. Also, since Waity’s of higher rank I don’t know how she’d get a title in her own right especially since she’s an American citizen still. It’s intriguing though because I imagine that quite a few people would scheme to get Harry married off to someone that would benefit whoever put the match together and pulled strings behind the scenes for it to work. If anything, I thought that would’ve been the case with Cressida, with Meghan there’s quite a few hurdles that would have to be cleared and can’t be done in private like her getting a spouse visa and converting to the Church of England as well as becoming a British citizen to get a title and serve the people who by the way can’t stand her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 12, 2018, 07:01:41 pm
Thanks for the link. I understand what you are saying. I think we are looking at it from a different perspective. Although many different avenues can be used to attain the ultimate goal. I am going to think about your post....

I was shocked to read sparkles mum was sent up the clank... what did she do to get a 12-year sentence? That seems a rather long time to have been in jail. I do hope she was really guilty.  :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 12, 2018, 07:20:36 pm
MM will help to lower the monarchy's usefulness. This may be fate. All governments end eventually.  I do believe people are being paid to shut up but I believe MM has been doing that from the beginning just not enough to Sam at first. Now Sam has changed her tune and I imagine her bank account balance. Whether the MI6 is paying off people or just killing them is uncertain to me. I know what the the CIA does. Anyway, as to the Meghan effect, I haven't seen women with hair falling on their face from a unsecured bun yet. But I myself looked like her at the end of my work day yesterday which was horribly busy, not to mention all the errands I did at lunch and after work. So I have the effect. Would never have it if I were public speaking or in front of a jury or in a meeting with anyone.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 12, 2018, 07:20:56 pm
Well, these are all rumors. The only one that made it past the tumblr sites and into the blind gossip sites is her alleged yachting past.

As for the third man. Do you have someone in mind? It seems to me that Harry is just not so bright or blinded by whatever was promised by her. It's possible though that someone is helping her. No way can a small cable show actress afford such a massive PR campaign for so long.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 12, 2018, 07:28:29 pm
The stories about Doria getting a long prison sentence for welfare fraud emanate from one source and one only, Tumblr, and two tumblr sites in particular that have spread it around the Internet.

Doria's life has been well documented since she married Tom Markle in her early twenties. She worked as a makeup artist then. Later she worked as a flight attendant, which meant Meghan lived with her father and other relatives for a while as she worked interstate. That didn't last more than a few years however. She learned yoga and New Age techniques and became a qualified yoga instructor. Later on she went to university and graduated in social work. There's never been a twelve year gap in Doria's employment.

Don't you think that if one sniff of Doria having served a prison sentence was true that the British tabloids, especially the Daily Fail, would have been on to it in a flash since last November? There can be no wiping of prison records and the State authorities would still have had it on file. The Fail would have been so gleeful there would have been headlines a foot high.

Nor can convicted felons work in trusted positions as social workers with that kind of a record, especially for fraud, and Doria has worked for a mental health organisation for a number of years. So, I'm calling BS on that lie, actually!



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 12, 2018, 07:50:52 pm
I'm not sure I believe that she'll get to wear the Spencer tiara. If it were an option, you would think that Kate would have lobbied to wear it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 12, 2018, 10:26:54 pm
^very true.
IMO, Wills is going to stop this mess. As we see, he’s being built up as a sensible leader and family man since Catherine Quinn came onto the scene. He came off actually nice and caring during his talk with the guys where he said that Harry hasn’t asked him to be best man yet. IMO, I believe that part of this mess has been to elevate Wills/Waity as young leader of the monarchy and to some extent it’s working. Both have been doing more engagements and actually looking like they’re enjoying them and connecting with the public. These are words I didn’t think i’d say about them. I’m sure that there ratings have gone up too. If my theory’s correct, then either she drops this and goes back to the States or something shocking will come out in the press about her that will squash all talk about marriage just like Koo Stark years ago. There’s plenty of things that she could hide from Harry and lie about, so people would believe when Harry’s viewed as the innocent party to her lies and machinations. I hope that things come to a smashing halt this weekend/next week the latest so there’s a clean slate for the tour that Wills/Waity have to go on at the end of the month. No sense in building them up only to still have Meghan around cheapening and stressing out Harry and his staff.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 12, 2018, 10:43:54 pm
Will was just being Will  IMO he always makes those jokey comments about Harry and I think the best man question was already settled with Will being chosen.. Kate is still workshy and her numbers have always been low. . I hope Meghan does well and Harry does not have to be the third wheel anymore which is a good thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 13, 2018, 01:02:46 am
Prince Harry and 'hands-on' Meghan Markle are planning a fairy-tale wedding with a 'white and classic' theme
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But Harry and Meghan are also bringing in a team of their own wedding planners, as well as the society caterers Table Talk.

One source told how Miss Markle was taking a ‘very hands-on role with the organising process’, adding: ‘In fact, Harry insisted on it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264655/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-quirky-wedding-plans.html
Well she has been married once before, or 2 times if gossip is to be believed, so she’s a pro at wedding preparations.
Nice of her to tip the press about her wedding wishes especially when this union’s not popular and the British people have vast more important things to deal with. It must be nice to have big, expensive plans when you’re not paying for it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 13, 2018, 01:11:55 am
I just hope they don't decide to write their own vows. Please no!!!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 13, 2018, 03:34:21 am
Oh, Lord, I might have to stop posting here because of all these bs articles that are coming out.  :bored:
Emotional fan pictured embracing Meghan Markle in Brixton reveals her 'special relationship' with the Royal Family that goes back over 100 years
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264587/Meghan-Markle-fans-special-relationship-Royals.html#ixzz541zAh2in
IMO, the "fans" were rent a crod with the over the top fawning over her. I loved how Harry ignored the question of what his first dance will be.  :tehe: This must be the 3rd article about this woman. Why would people have the same white roses to give to her if hey were just random people waiting to meet her and Harry?

What do Meghan and Prince Harry get up to all day? After attending their second public engagement in two months in Brixton, we reveal the couple's daytime routine
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264533/Meghan-Prince-Harrys-daytime-routine.html#ixzz5420eX1f2
Basically bs. It's a compilation of her pr articles of the beauty services she's used and restaurants she's eaten at and how she's basically a home body with Harry at notts Cottage. Funny how the article has this tidbit though:
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Having spent much of the past 18 months apart, she and Harry love nights in, cooking together
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264533/Meghan-Prince-Harrys-daytime-routine.html#ixzz5422Idd10
Quite vapid and boring.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 13, 2018, 07:56:13 am
I'm not sure I believe that she'll get to wear the Spencer tiara. If it were an option, you would think that Kate would have lobbied to wear it.

She's doing the same thing she did that got her the Christmas invitation: posting her own blinds. Pretty pathetic. Her fascination with Diana and the ambition to one up Kate in everything is unhealthy.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 14, 2018, 03:19:43 am
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/169670341796/hope-you-can-read-this-the-author-is-amanda
Well said.  :thumbsup:
I wonder who she'll be at the next engagement in Wales. With any luck, they'll be no crowds or better yet, only harry goes. There's no need to have her continue to make a fool of herself and Harry to continue to look uncomfortable around this energy drainer. hy drag this touture out?

https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com/post/169674153536/felix2001a-thanks-the-60s
Someone archived Meghan's IG account so all of her vapid post can still be found.  :tehe:

The Female Narcissist - leads men to their demise
http://acrackletsthelightin.info/2017/02/10/The-Female-Narcissist/
Meghan's defenately a narc.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 14, 2018, 03:27:12 am
^It really does come across as disingenuous.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 14, 2018, 04:10:08 am
Now Trump will miss out on the Royal Wedding: US President faces embarrassment of not being invited to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's big day
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Royal Household sources made clear that Prince Harry’s nuptials were not a state occasion and would be, by royal standards at least, a more low-key, family affair than the wedding of his parents or brother. ‘Although the wedding is being attended by the Queen, it isn’t an official, state occasion. It is a family event,’ the source said.
Downing Street said it was a matter for the Royal Household. Previous royal weddings of those low down the succession list have not been attended by US presidents.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264657/Donald-Trump-faces-Royal-Wedding-snub.html#ixzz5480bIsp0
All smoke and mirrors and game playing. All of these leaks to the press is celebrity pr and nothing to do with an actual royal wedding. The queen attending is laughable when she didn't attend Charles' second wedding. All this is to make Mehgan seem more important than she is since she's the one doing all of the wedding preparations. She's wasting her time but I guess she has to fill her day with something whilst she stays at Soho House or in LA where she hides out until she's ready for the next public debacle. This maddness can't come to an end soon enough. :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 14, 2018, 05:07:54 am
The Queen will attend Harry's wedding as he is getting married in a full Church of England service in an official Church of England Chapel which the Queen herself controls - like the Abbey, St Georges is a 'royal peculiar' meaning the Queen herself has to give permission for various things to happen there and decides who will fill the various positions such as Dean of St George's. The Queen didn't attend Charles and Camilla's civil ceremony but was there for the religious blessing which was conducted by the Archbishop of Canterbury and was virtually a wedding ceremony except that they were already married. Of course she will be at her grandson's wedding.

She didn't attend the civil service because as Supreme Governor of the Church of England she was advised that she shouldn't be seen at a civil wedding service but should only be seen at the religious service and so she was and so she will be when Harry marries Meghan at St George's - where her parents, grandparents and great-grandparents are buried and where she herself will eventually be buried.

Charles and Camilla had to have a Civil Ceremony because people believed that Camilla played a part in the failure of Charles' first marriage. As Camilla's first marriage had taken place in a Roman Catholic church it had nothing to do with the breakdown of her marriage. Harry played no part in the breakdown of Meghan's first marriage and she wasn't originally married in a CoE service so in the eyes of the CoE she will be marrying for the first time (and no this isn't making up new rules for her - this has been CoE practice for decades - I have had a couple of friends who married in RC services in the 70s, divorced in the 80s and remarried in the CoE in the later 80s or 90s.) The CoE changed its rules, in 2002, for couples who had previously married in the CoE and allows remarriage in the CoE for these people so long as they weren't involved in the breakdown of the previous marriage. As Harry had no part in the breakdown of Meghan's marriage that isn't an issue. As Meghan didn't marry in the CoE that isn't an issue so they are entitled to a full CoE service and the Supreme Governor of the CoE will be in attendance.

Trump - along with most of the rest of the world's Heads of State - was never going to get an invite to this wedding as it isn't a State or even semi-State occasion. Charles and Diana had a full State Wedding with many Heads of State attending. Mrs Reagan was there to represent her husband if memory serves correctly as the President was still recovering from the assassination attempt. William and Kate had a semi-state occasions with the Heads of Government from the Commonwealth all invited but Harry's is a private affair so no need for any foreign politicians, although I would be surprised if the GG and/or Heads of Government and/or High Commissioners of the other realms weren't invited.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 14, 2018, 06:38:53 am
^^^Indeed. What happened with the feminist,with the glass ceiling shuttering "role model". Why is she getting in a blind what tiara she wants to wear so that her sugars start talking about it, it makes it to a DM article and it becomes uncomfortable for the Spencers to say no, the tradition says no, you are a go, you've got to let it go. I'm glad that H'wood shut down her aspirations for a bond girl the same day  she started campaigning.

If MM was marrying for love, not money, she would have wanted to modernize the monarchy by not wearing any tiara, instead of pining for another family's heirloom.

^ The Bible doesn't say that. The Bible says that if you have another wife after the first one, you're an adulterer. I'll continue to go by that rule regarding of how inclusive or modern CoE wants to be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: camilapitanga on January 14, 2018, 06:53:32 am
It chocks me how in denial some people still are about this whole wedding thing i mean still :there:
I understand people not liking this women but being in such denial state of not accepting this wedding will happen is just silly seriouslly.

Anyway just readed this and im just sad and in chock seriouslly.Not surprised any forum had posted it yet as its been on front page for over 24 hours at least but as it puts her as a victim obviouslly many are refusing to discuss it.Others dont want to talk about racism as its a poleic thing and leads to serious discussions.Still i though it was important to post.
Anyway just sad that things got to this point honestlly but whathever.

"Meghan's seed will taint our Royal Family": UKIP chief's glamour model lover, 25, is suspended from the party over racist texts about Prince Harry's wife-to-be

Ukip leader Henry Bolton's girlfriend made racist remarks about Meghan Markle
Mr Bolton is already mired in scandal after he left his wife for the glamour model  
Jo Marney, 25, said ‘black American’ Meghan will ‘taint’ the British Royal Family
She also says that she wouldn't have sex with ‘a negro’ because they are ‘ugly’
Marney was immediately suspended from Ukip when the messages emerged

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266657/Ukip-leaders-girlfriends-racist-Meghan-Markle-messages.html#ixzz542loN17d

I dont know if im chocked more by what happened and what this women has done or with people disdain about the issue coz of theyre *despise* against MM.Ive been a forum poster for years and i never saw such *despise* and disdain against someone in my life.And i dont think it has anything to deal with deslike especially after seeing how people react to this issue its purelly racism.

I mean if this was an article about her outfit costing a lot or vacation somewhere, something  nasty about her or her familly as usual, u know the usual negative crap, people would be salivating on this.There would be the usual 5.000 to 10.000 comments from the same ones hating on her now shes being atacked with racist offenses and there are like 100 posts. Thats just ridiculous  and only serves to show how people are hipocrites and treat the issue of racism as it means nothing.Seriouslly just sad to see the stated of the world and how people can be dispicable honestlly :-X :stop:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 14, 2018, 08:14:49 am
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I dont know if im chocked more by what happened and what this women has done or with people disdain about the issue coz of theyre *despise* against MM.Ive been a forum poster for years and i never saw such *despise* and disdain against someone in my life.And i dont think it has anything to deal with deslike especially after seeing how people react to this issue its purelly racism.

Please don't be quick to jump on the racism against poor saint Meghan train. Read the comments, really read them and see all the millions of things that are wrong with this Diana stan and then try to see the point of literally everyone on the forum about her ingenuity and social climbing.

The article you posted is from less than an hour ago. HOW do you expect 5000 comments in 1 hour on a Sunday morning. This texting exchange seems like a setup or paid gig that is to "show" that there's a lot of racism against saint Meghan while all the comments on social climbing, lying, cheating, dog neglecting and lack of morals are swept under the rug cause you know, there's the race card.

I calculated it - she's 12.5% african american at best. Exactly what is she representing beside her ambitions with 12.5%?
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: camilapitanga on January 14, 2018, 11:23:15 am
Thats exactlly what im saying.Instead of focusing on whats going on - the fact that "a person" is suffering racism - u prefer to calculate how much african american she has on her dna to try to prove that shea catually white and she never suffered racism  :there:

As this is an excuse for racism or invalidate what has just happened.Do u realize what just happened and how serious it is or ure still thinking racism dont exist and this women is playing a part in a play as a poor thing that people need to feel sorry for? I mean what diference does it makes??She can have german blood mixed with danish on her veins she still looks half black and shes being a victim of racism,EXPLICTLLY, OPENLLY but u guys prefer to close ure eyes to it simply coz well u dont like her so lets pretend racism dont exist, or anyone from now on who complains about racism is just whining and were not even giving u attention.In the end shes not even black she only have 1% of black blood.Are u serious?

Maybe the timing is diferent for each country coz when i posted the article it had been there on front page for over 12 hours or more.I only posted anyway coz i saw noone did and as i was revolted with this i decided to post.And no im not jumping on anything.This is not the first time the topic is avoided and people refuse to talk about it.I see it everyday people refusing to comment certain issues.The post now has almost a thousand views and theyre quite divided if u want to know also the positive comments have a lot of red arrows wich shows clearlly that theres a real issue regarding racism and this women is suffering from it.In fact i dont know what can be said to people about racism after such article.If this is not racism i dont know what it is.And seriouslly trying to make MM become white wont make it disapear.

Whenever theres some article criticizing someone or saying that a non white person or imigrant has done something there are thousands of comments when its a local person there are only a few.With MM is the same.If this is an article about how much her clothes costs, how her past is awfull, etc something negative thousands of comments.If its something positive or that puts her in a victim position then only a few.Ive said this on first post actually.Thats why in my view people are being unfair to this women.Believe me i know shes not a saint and has many flaws but there are serious things envolved in here that are being neglected simply coz of personal deslike or pure prejudice, racism itself.Not cool.Not nice.Revolting if u ask me.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 14, 2018, 12:02:13 pm
Let me try to clarify. I don't care about Meghan. I don't like the public position she tries to go into. I don't like her for that position because of the scheming and the lying and the social climbing that she's been doing all her life, including, if tumblr rumors are true, sleeping with one of Harry's friends so that she can get close to him. I dislike people like her in public positions because of who they are as a person and what they do to get ahead in life.

I don't want to be in a position to one day have a daughter and try to explain her how it's not a good thing to sleep your way up until you find a big fish that's dumb enough to marry you without a prenup. I want to see, for the sake of my own children, people in public places who are good examples, good role models.

There is a right way to succeed in life - through hard work and entrepreneurship, and there's a wrong way - with sleeping your way up. I do not approve of Meghan and women like Meghan's way of succeeding in life.

MM was using and discarding people on her way up. She's a fake humanitarian, dog neglector, adulterer to her husband and live-in boyfriend. That's on Her, not her race. IMO it's not worth it to defend MM for her race. It is was Oprah, then yes- that IS a woman with real accomplishments, morale and real impact into the world. But so far MM's claim to fame is that she slept her way up and that's really not worth defending. IMO.

It's insulting to my intelligence and upbringing that when I don't like princess Sophia for the same reasons that I don't like MM it's ok, but when I say these exact things about Meghan all of a sudden it's about her race. No, it is not. Meghan is a bad egg because of herself, not because of her race. As for the percentages - MM is not black, she's not even half black. Anyone who claims otherwise is incorrect, including Meghan. She has black heritage and it's ok to be proud of your heritage but not flaunt it as an excuse for your bad deeds in life. She also has Irish heritage. Why is she not proud of that part of her heritage? Isn't that reverse racism on her part?

Also, camila, I'm sorry to hear that you were treated like that in Russia or on all kinds of borders. If I was in your shoes I'll just let it go as these were pretty ignorant people. Many parts of Europe are not globalized yet. These things take time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 14, 2018, 12:39:22 pm
Prince Harry and 'hands-on' Meghan Markle are planning a fairy-tale wedding with a 'white and classic' theme
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But Harry and Meghan are also bringing in a team of their own wedding planners, as well as the society caterers Table Talk.

One source told how Miss Markle was taking a ‘very hands-on role with the organising process’, adding: ‘In fact, Harry insisted on it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5264655/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markles-quirky-wedding-plans.html
Well she has been married once before, or 2 times if gossip is to be believed, so she’s a pro at wedding preparations.
Nice of her to tip the press about her wedding wishes especially when this union’s not popular and the British people have vast more important things to deal with. It must be nice to have big, expensive plans when you’re not paying for it.

Of *course* they're having a big white wedding. For goodness sake, she's a 30 something year old American divorcee. The whole affair will be a dreadful mess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 14, 2018, 02:04:28 pm
We don't know that Meghan 'schemed and lied her way to the top'.
We don't know that she slept with one of Harry's friends.
We don't know that she and Harry won't have some sort of pre-nup.
We don't know that Meghan committed adultery on her ex husband or her ex boyfriend.
We don't know that she neglected her dogs, or that she is a fake humanitarian.
Meghan has been an actress. She's worked on a series on TV and in small parts in films. Princess Sofia was a porn star, a regular in men's magazines, and was given the title Miss Slitz for her 'work'. World of difference.

It's good that people teach their children to revere good role models. However, IMO it might be also valuable to teach them that everything on Twitter isn't always the truth about a person in public life. Nor are rumours peddled on Tumblr, I'm afraid.

I'm a fan of Harry's and I am going to withhold my verdict on Meghan until her second year of her marriage. If she performs well as a member of the BRF, works hard, does plenty of worthwhile charity work and is authentic in that work then that will be for the good of the British Royal Family and Britain in general.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 14, 2018, 02:25:54 pm
I read a few times about prenups and supposedly the royals don't "do" prenups. I was told that on several royal boards as well. If there had been one, it would not have been made public. Royals have dealt with divorces (several) so there is some plan in place.

I too, Rosella, want to wait and see with Meghan. What I am looking for is how she takes to royal life, if she has a good work ethic and does not need excuses for not working, and she learns the ropes and follows protocol and fits in with the new life.

Meghan did work and she got a role on a TV show, not top notch, but it was steady and the show had fans.

And it could have led to better roles had she not chosen the royal life. This is known to happen with some stars of TV and film.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 14, 2018, 03:18:05 pm
General message:  It is inevitable, I realize, that race will be an issue in our discussions with MM.  All I ask is that we please be considerate of other people's points of view and that, believe it or not, RGF will not be the place where these subjects will be decided universally.  We're a gossip site, not a government sanctioned think tank on solving the world's problems. 

So:  Cool off, take a breath before posting, be considerate, or this or any other thread gets locked down.  Thank you. YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 14, 2018, 03:30:06 pm
I don't think her Race Matters when it comes to Meghan Markle. La is a pretty liberal place. I am a district attorney for Los Angeles County and our elected District Attorney is a wonderful beautiful black woman. We have a beautiful Black Asian mixed woman as one of our US senators. And I think I have not seen racism for a long long time. Megan certainly had opportunities and was brought up in schools where she was not treated in a discriminatory manner I'm sure. The issue isn't Megan's race. The issue is whether she's using that to manipulate people or get special privileges or to avoid valid criticism because people are scared to say it because she's part black. That is what is unsavory. But I don't know if she's really playing that card or not. She is somebody that does not appear to be genuine in her statements or her actions. That is somebody that concerns me her race means nothing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 14, 2018, 03:39:43 pm
Oh racism in the world is still there .you might not see it personally ,but it's there


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 14, 2018, 03:52:50 pm
Thanks Rosella for relentlessly pointing out when something is not an ironclad fact.
I personally get evil vibe from her and maybe tend to get carried away with the tumblr scoops.

Sticking to the fact - there are the obvious lies about her not knowing anything about BRF or Prince Harry.
There is instagram photo of her with the royal carriage in the background. There's the picture with her and her old friend in front of BP. Clearly she did know who and what Harry is.

If we compare her and her Suits colleagues' imdb - Meghan had not been booking many roles in between unlike the rest of the crew and that is for the past 6 years.

If we look at Tom Markle's imdb - since 1991 he did not book any work. How did he afford the upbringing of his 3 kids, one of which went to private schools and Europe trips.

Multiple people say that Meghan was and is obsessed with Diana. One is the high school friend, the other one is a woman who just met her at a gala or something. Two independent sources say the same thing. Maybe it's not just a coincidence.

Maybe she's a dog lover but dog lovers treat their dogs like children and will not abandon a child on a different continent with a different family, accidentally the abandoned dog is the one who was not potty trained when she took him and is not so docile as the other one (I've watched Suits from pilot on).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 14, 2018, 04:29:14 pm
And the other dog she took is in the hospital with  broken legs that I still want to know how he got. If she's out and about she's obviously not staying home to help him get well which is what I do when my animals get sick. Oh by the way to fly on the wall I am lucky that I don't see a lot of racism I really don't where I work and where I live and who my friends are. I have raised my son that way. So I guess I'm really lucky because it infuriates me if I see people discriminate against others.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 14, 2018, 07:14:30 pm
Is Harry planning a stag do on the slopes? Royal protection officers are 'spotted scoping out locations' in exclusive Swiss ski resort - and they could stay in Prince Andrew's £13m chalet
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It is also thought that Harry and Meghan, 36, will throw a second more civilised 'stag-hen' party together at a polo match.
A source told the Daily Star that Harry's royal protection officers had been spotted in Verbier.
Kensington Palace has declined to comment.
Comment:
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Harriet, Toronto, Canada, 8 minutes ago
Brobri :I don't blame you...it's not often the bride can use her professional skills AND save a bob by str1pping at her fiance's stag party. I'll tell Harry to put you on the guest list, H. x

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5267433/Prince-Harrys-Verbier-stag-Royal-Wedding.html#ixzz54BgyHABm
 :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 14, 2018, 09:00:44 pm
Meghan never ever said in her engagement interview that she never knew who Harry was before they met. The interview is on YouTube and it can be checked. What she said was (and paraphrasing here because it's not in front of me) that unlike people in the UK she didn't grow up with a lot of knowledge of the Royal family. She would have known, as a US citizen, the outlines of Diana's life and that of her sons.

 However, and she's quite right, Americans often don't get the relentless spread of news about William and Harry and the rest of them day after day. Therefore, it would be quite natural that she would ask the person who introduced them, who knew Harry personally, what he was like. The 'she lied in the interview and of course she knew who Harry was' is straight from Tumblr/Twitter and isn't what Meghan said at all.

Tom Markle's entire CV throughout his working life has never, as far as is known, been put up on the Internet. We know he worked on the set of Married with Children in the 1990s (as well as General Hospital) because he won an Emmy for both shows. One of his family stated that he won a large sum of money on a lottery when Meghan was a child. Don't know if that was true, but he may have, or may have won it gambling on something else.

Meghan had the Tig and later the contract with Reitman's clothing store in her breaks from Suits. Both earned her money. She also did some advertisements/promotions. There were bit parts in films.

Again, we do not know what happened per Meghan's dogs. Bogart may have an underlying health condition preventing him from flying. His health may have deteriorated in the past year. Cory may have wanted the dog with him. We don't know what the situation is or was. Nor do we know what happened to Guy. He could have been mishandled on the transport across the Atlantic. Again we don't know. To accuse Meghan, as has happened with some Tumblr/Twitter followers, of deliberately breaking her dog's legs herself is just beyond the pale.

If we are talking evil, misinformation and an irrational twisting of facts then there are three main Conduits on the Internet that are following party lines, iamstillskippy, Felix and Jerseydeanne. In some cases, when pronouncing on what the Royal family do and their churches and procedures etc., they are so wrong it's completely laughable. They've also been wrong all along about what's happened with this romance, predicting breakups all the way for months, and they will probably be predicting a breakup as Meghan goes down the aisle on May 19th!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: annecros on January 14, 2018, 09:40:35 pm
Right on Rosella! It is downright over the top, in my opinion. They will probably be predicting the break up when they are expecting their third child! Weddings and pregnancies are always silly season in the royal gossip world!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 14, 2018, 09:45:56 pm
I'd say that it's pretty much predictable what has happened to her dog's paws. I have a small dog and I kniw exactly how one or both legs can be broken and I predict and stop accidents before they happen. Meghan should have known better.

When a small dog breaks their leg it's because they are in new place and have not learned where they can safely jump from and where it's not safe and more importantly - small dogs will do dangerous jumps so that the owner comes and saves them in order to get their attention. If they break their legs and have their owner's attention for thenselves they will suffer but they will fill an emotional void and that's what matters for them.

Speaking from experience - the dog owner, the Alfa for the dog has to ensure the dog's safety and the dog's physical and emotional needs to be met. That's why I point a finger at Meghan for the dog and I'm pointing it not because it happened but because she was upset about it. To me that shows that someone else was taking care of her dog hwncw her dog was neglected by the Alfa and did something stupid to attract attention like dogs do. The normal reaction is worried not upset.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 14, 2018, 10:24:43 pm
The thing is what happened with the dog is known only by people involved IMO. The rest is speculation. I don't think Meghan was deliberately cruel to that dog and I think there are facts about this not known. She seems to be have tried and convicted in some circles without the full story coming out. Maybe she holds some responsibility, maybe she doesn't.  Maybe it all will come out maybe it won't but I am willing to give Meghan the benefit of the doubt. It is not something that would be very apparent like her locking the dog in a car in too cold or too hot weather. I saw a dog today being walked by her owner, and limping wearing a cast. I can't say the owner was responsible unless I know all the facts.  I do hope the dogs are OK and recover and heal and get over the trauma too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 14, 2018, 10:41:42 pm
Right, we don't know what happened to the dog. The point was she abandons one and the other goes to England and gets seriously injured. I understand if the one dog couldn't travel because of age or health.  However the other dog got injured, two broken legs takes time to heal and re-train. She is not around that much now with her traveling. So the dog is left healing with a stranger. I do think that they can pay a good sitter, but her animals have been placed aside. In all fairness, anyone with animals in a foreign country would have this trouble. It is just one more thing about her that is unsavory for someone like me to hear. But this is PH choice and I don't have to like it and it won't matter to him one bit. That is the bottom line.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 15, 2018, 12:35:13 am
I heard that pre-nups don't matter in the UK, the judge usually ignores it even if there is one (I don't think royals would have one anyway).

Yes, racism is horrible and the offending parties should be dealt with accordingly (being fired, arrested, banned/posts removed, etc. depending on the situation), but constantly posting news items about it just seems to make things worse. Lots of attention-seeking racists are getting the attention they crave. I feel like things have gotten worse since 2009 when they were supposed to get better because we had a half-black president. Not only stuff against black people, I've seen a huge increase in anti-white sentiments, making people feel bad because they're white, etc. Why not just help each other out and stop harassing people because of the color of their skin?  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 15, 2018, 01:26:18 am
I work in a very multi-cultural school with over 50 different nationalities represented and every skin colour imaginable. One of our teachers had a very large sign put up in her classroom which said 'there is only ONE race - the human race'. I think if we were all able to adhere to that idea the world would be a much better and friendlier place.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 15, 2018, 01:37:56 am


@damianholbrook
.@lifetimetv has a movie in the works about the upcoming Royal wedding of Harry and Meghan. #TCA18 #LifetimeTV


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 15, 2018, 04:17:35 am
Harry bans Charles's trusted aide Michael Fawcett from organising his wedding reception after suggestion by the Prince of Wales 'creates tensions'
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Although Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s nuptials are four months away, tensions are already surfacing.

I hear that Prince Charles has suggested his controversial former valet, Michael Fawcett, should organise the wedding reception at Windsor Castle.
The idea has, however, gone down like a lead balloon with Harry and Meghan, who are said to want nothing to do with Fawcett, the aide so indispensable to Charles that he reportedly squeezed the royal toothpaste on to HRH’s toothbrush.

‘The Prince of Wales thinks Michael is a wonderful events organiser,’ a royal source tells me. ‘But the suggestion has created tensions.’

The disagreement comes as Charles has handed major new powers to Fawcett, 55, who earlier resigned not once but twice from the Royal Household.

Fawcett is paid £85,000 a year as executive director of Dumfries House, the Scottish stately home Charles ‘saved for the nation’ in 2007.
Now, I can reveal, Fawcett is also to gain control of the Prince’s Foundation, Charles’s architectural charity, which boasts an income of £2.46 million, according to the latest accounts. The foundation’s annual report states that it is to be merged with the charity which runs Dumfries House, with the stately home’s management team initially taking control.

‘The finance function has already been transferred to Dumfries House Trust,’ confirms the report.

Earlier this month, I disclosed that Fawcett’s company, Premier Mode Ltd, received just over £276,000 from the Prince’s charities last year.

A spokesman for Dumfries House Trust said a ‘significant portion’ of the payments went to ‘third-party suppliers of services’.

When a number of the Prince’s staff complained to Charles about Fawcett’s bullying attitude in 1998, he duly resigned. Within a week, however, he was not only reinstated but promoted.

Then, in 2003, he was forced out as a senior valet when an inquiry found he had sold off gifts on Charles’s orders.

However, he was retained as a highly paid ‘consultant’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5269363/Harry-bans-Charles-aide-organising-reception.html
This wedding’s causing nothing but tension, anger and disagreements.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 15, 2018, 05:58:15 am
This entire engagement has generated hatred and comments I have NEVER thought to see on the DM comments section.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: camilapitanga on January 15, 2018, 09:28:56 am
Let me try to clarify. I don't care about Meghan.

The point is not about MM or what u think about her the point here is what people think about a HUMAN BEING who could be black white asian whathever famous or anynomious rich or poor it doesnt mattter a HUMAN BEING suffering racism!Its not about liking or desliking this women but about acting correctlly and with decency about someone who just suffered a severe and cruel atack of racism isntead  of turning a blind eye for RACISM simply coz they deslike her.Coz thats very serious and just awfull if u ask me.

Im not here to defend her or try to change peoples opinions on her all im saying is that when it comes to racism it doesnt matter if she looks more black or white if there is this or that percentage on her blood..Fact is she was just atacked AGAIN for her skin color and thats RACISM and instead of defending someone suffering it or condemn whoever did it ure all turning a blind eye for this simply coz the one who suffered it was MM. Worst creating excuses to minimize or even invalidate this women suffering racism simply coz u have bad feelings or deslike for her and thats just absurd and cruel coz millions of people suffers this everyday all the time and by turning a blind eyey for this issue simply for ure deslike for her people are disrespecting millions of others who passed through the same.Its just wrong and very sad!

If people think this way,that racism only apllys to people they like or have simpathy for, then they definatelly should reavaliate theyre ideas about the issue coz seriouslly racism is bad in any case for anyone black, white,asian,indian whathever.It can happen to her to me or to anyone and its nothing to be treated with disdain or disrespect or made less important than other issues. If people think that in her case is ok to happen or dont make sense coz they deslike her in a certain way people are also using it for "convenience" as they tack her of doing too and worst just reinforcing this mentality that racism is ok as long as its not with someone i like or care or even it doesnt exist coz it never happened to me or someone close to so its a joke a lie and people who claim this are liers and whiners.Thats just not right sorry  bignono

Again noone is obliged to like this women but when u have such judgements about racism depending on the person suffering it i think ure also using it for ure convenience and thats not only wrong is also a huge hipocrisy especially when ure all so judgemental about all this women does wrong but when she does something good u pretend it never happened or invent something to criticize her anyway.It seems some rather agree with racism acts than say something nice or pósitive about this women and thats just ridiculous in my view.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 15, 2018, 10:33:11 am
^ Camila we are here to discuss Meghan not to discuss what other think or why. If you feel a post is against the rules then please communicate this to a mod.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 15, 2018, 11:54:19 am
Prince Seeiso of Lesotho has been invited to the wedding. He talks about Harry, Meghan and the engagement/wedding in the latter part of this video. These two princes are close, and have been since Harry's teens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZM1SaqQ34M


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 15, 2018, 12:11:46 pm
^^^ Maybe I was misunderstood. I'll try  to clarify again :) I do not have any personal involvement or feelings towards Meghan. That said, I do notice her behavior and due to the fact that:
- she's gunning for the Spencer tiara through a blind instead of being above the toddlers with tiaras dreams and go without a tiara to the alter (she is a commoner and does not have any heirloom to put on her head and if she was marrying for love it wouldn't matter what or if any diamonds are on her head while saying I do),
- had a fortune spent on her tacky engagement dress
- is still making money off of what she wears for personal gain
I do not like her for that role. I do not think she's entering this matrimony with love in her heart and her behavior speaks volumes about what she is after.
My attitude towards MM has nothing to do with her color. To claim otherwise is odd.

As for percentages, they do matter in my opinion and I hope that they start mattering even more but maybe not for the reasons you supposed, camila. As long as someone thinks that a certain race or faith for that matter is superior, there will be fights in the world. In reality, it is the right thing to do to honor your heritage but the wrong thing to do to point out your heritage as a don't-you-dare-say-anything-negative-about-me card. If there is something negative, not right, shady about this woman no ill-suited KP statement, no race card and no personal attacks on posters should stop it from coming to light.

Rosella, I do get what you say. However, to me if you are not that interested in the royal family you wouldn't pick of the royal carriage on your instagram.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 15, 2018, 12:18:58 pm
This entire engagement has generated hatred and comments I have NEVER thought to see on the DM comments section.

My thoughts: it's the commentators that have the issues here. Not Meghan. Some are so horrendous they are scary and are removed.  Sometimes the DM has "click bait" headlines which attracts the comments.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 15, 2018, 01:59:43 pm
Here is an article that captures what I think the majority of Meggles' critics have seen all along:   the body language for an "in love" couple is way, way off . . . . .

http://www.amyspagnola.com/2018/01/hes-just-not-that-into-you-part-2.html

http://www.amyspagnola.com/2017/11/meghan-markle-and-prince-harrys-awkward.html



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 15, 2018, 02:19:26 pm
I'd say it's fairly plain that Amy Spagnola isn't a fan of Harry and Meghan's. Why does she suggest he proposed to her, plans to marry her, then? As for praising Kate and William's playfulness and fondness for and with each other, by contrast! Lol! She's obviously both a fan of the Cambridges and needs Specsavers!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 15, 2018, 02:28:51 pm
^ That's what many of us have been asking all along, Rosella.   Why is Harry -- who looks so miserable in Meggles' company -- marrying her?  They do not give off the vibe of the average engaged couple.

As to Will and Kate -- at least on their engagement day Kate seemed deliriously happy and William looked at least happy if not overjoyed.  And they appeared that way for at least the first year of marriage.   Not any longer, of course, but at least in the beginning.  Harry is the most somber in love man I've ever seen.   There is definitely something not right with this situation.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 15, 2018, 02:40:17 pm
I don't think that Harry looks that miserable in all the pictures. In some of the pictures he looks irritated but I don't know if that's just the instant. Being engaged and being married is going to be very different than having an overseas relationship and I don't know how mature Harry really is. Again I don't think Harry's that smart so I don't think he sees all this junk that Meghan does nor does it compute in his brain.  If he's not in love he's in lust and that is a very strong hold. But in lust and in love can fade. I stand by this is a limited relationship just based on the way these two people are and I don't see them growing together. But mainly what I do see in Meghan Markle is a person that abandons things with seemingly ease. When she gets what she wants out of this Royal marriage she will dump him take the money and start her own Mega world. The royal family is not the end goal of all people because look at Fergie and Diana. I don't think Kate Middleton or Sophie have the imagination or hootspa to want to be separate from it. But Marble's does mark my words. This will take the royal family down a notch but maybe something needs to.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 15, 2018, 02:43:14 pm
They both have to work on the marriage. The difficult part comes after the wedding.  Harry is not flawless himself and the onus IMO is not only on Meghan but both should be prepared to have a give and take relationship and work together so the marriage works. She also has to be prepared to say goodbye to her old life and Harry needs to work to be a successful married man, the bachelor days are over.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 15, 2018, 02:55:59 pm
That's true Sandy marriage is a very difficult Institution.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 15, 2018, 02:56:16 pm
 One shouldn't have to work at looking happy and in love when announcing the engagement.   Work and compromise during the life of the marriage, yes.  But the radiance and happiness at the beginning of the engagement should not be such hard work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 15, 2018, 03:23:35 pm
Regardless of anti-Meghan and Harry blogs there are many photos and bits of videos in which Harry is smiling at Meghan and looking fondly at her, and that includes the engagement interview. The fact that some are determined to believe that there is no love there or that somehow Meghan has got her claws into him for some nefarious reason doesn't alter that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: annecros on January 15, 2018, 03:25:55 pm
It is refreshing to see Harry be a little more respectful of his partner. Some of the "hands on" in public demonstrations Harry pulled with Chelsea and even the young actress, looked a little hormone driven to me. He seems more serious now, somehow. Just my opinion though, and they do seem much more "in love" than Kate and Wills ever did.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 15, 2018, 03:47:51 pm
In all fairness William and Kate they have known each other since they were 20. In the first couple of years of college they may have been very in love and all over each other we just don't have any photos of that because they were kept private. Wait till 10 years from now if these two are still married and you are not going to see a so in love couple either.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 15, 2018, 03:49:33 pm
^ Neither couple seems to be in love.  Not William and Kate nor Harry and Meggles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 15, 2018, 04:00:31 pm
I don't think Kate Middleton or Sophie have the imagination or hootspa to want to be separate from it. But Marble's does mark my words. This will take the royal family down a notch but maybe something needs to.

Maybe not just a notch. She already has interviews in VF, merching deals like the Kardashians, Trevor is said to have a comedy about her life together and her dating PH. There's also the book and the lifetime movie made for them. She's already creating serious cash with her dating a prince.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 15, 2018, 04:02:37 pm
 Game show network will be doing a cover story The Prince and the Game show model Meghan Markle  Sunday 21 Jan



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 15, 2018, 04:21:14 pm
^ Neither couple seems to be in love.  Not William and Kate nor Harry and Meggles.
In all fairness William and Kate they have known each other since they were 20. In the first couple of years of college they may have been very in love and all over each other we just don't have any photos of that because they were kept private. Wait till 10 years from now if these two are still married and you are not going to see a so in love couple either.
And yet in 2001, 2003, 2004 PW was still denying KM was his girlfriend,  etc, and he was seen, photographed, etc going after other women. KM has always ever been a booty call and nothing more. When did he ever say he was in love with her?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 15, 2018, 04:23:24 pm
Books and films would be inevitable on whoever Prince Harry married. Now The Game Show Network to do a cover story is very strange. I suppose Immaculate Heart can do a cover story when she was in high school or her sorority can too if everybody's going to jump on the bandwagon in the United States. People will get tired of this pretty fast I think because she's not that interesting except for the fact she managed to grab Harry with all her faults. Although they never got tired of Kate but at least she dresses well and her hair is combed whether you like the style or not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 15, 2018, 05:53:13 pm
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The issue isn't Megan's race. The issue is whether she's using that to manipulate people or get special privileges or to avoid valid criticism because people are scared to say it because she's part black.

Thank you for summing up the bulk of my issue with her. Considering I grew up in the deep, deep south and was often the only black person in situations thanks to where I was educated, I know what racism is and don't take kindly to people who play the melanin card in order to avoid valid criticism. There are some out there giving her crap and it's legit racist but the bulk of the criticism is due to her behavior. As a WoC, I rooted for her when it was first rumored they were involved. I thought she'd be a breath of fresh air to what's seen as the stiff RF. As time has gone on and I've witnessed how she operates, my opinion has changed completely. The merching, the playing shy ingenue with the crowds at engagements, etc open my eyes more and more every day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 15, 2018, 09:03:09 pm
^ :thumbsup:
It’s Harry and Meghan… the movie! Lifetime is turning their royal romance into a film – and it could air in time for their wedding in May
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Now the real-life love story of Prince Harry, 35, and Meghan Markle, 36, will be given the full movie star treatment when it is reimagined as a Lifetime TV film.

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Shshshshsh, Dallas, United States, 10 minutes ago
It's a trick to get people to think there's not such an age gap, she's a very mature 'worldly' older woman he's a silly boy who needs to grow up....too right this comment! She¿s at least 40-and the palace knows that looks bad so yeah she shaved off a few years!
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Hawk and Handsaw, Dark City, United States, 7 minutes ago
Yes. The DM also did that for awhile with her nationality. "Mistakenly" identifying her as Canadian and from the Commonwealth instead of America. No one bought that either.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5272049/Harry-Meghan-Royal-Love-Story-Movie-made.html#ixzz54HzesQVw

https://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2017120244462/meghan-markle-righthand-woman-nottingham/
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Though Heather was front and centre with Meghan, it is said that Harry’s right-hand woman is working for both of them until Meghan gets her very own team.
Heather doesn't work for her, only Harry, yest there's gossip that she has her own staff. I think people are gatting mixed up because of Heather looking like she's assisting/woring for Mehgan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 15, 2018, 09:56:36 pm
The Hallmark Channel will probably follow suit.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 15, 2018, 10:23:02 pm
 :wopedo: There's already mentions of the two of them in the shows that I'm watching. If they ruin Hallmark movies for me too I'll have to give up watching shows.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 16, 2018, 01:28:05 am
^ Neither couple seems to be in love.  Not William and Kate nor Harry and Meggles.


Nope. Both women saw a needy *fool* and a chance at the golden arches of life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 16, 2018, 02:37:58 am
^ Neither couple seems to be in love.  Not William and Kate nor Harry and Meggles.
In all fairness William and Kate they have known each other since they were 20. In the first couple of years of college they may have been very in love and all over each other we just don't have any photos of that because they were kept private. Wait till 10 years from now if these two are still married and you are not going to see a so in love couple either.
And yet in 2001, 2003, 2004 PW was still denying KM was his girlfriend,  etc, and he was seen, photographed, etc going after other women. KM has always ever been a booty call and nothing more. When did he ever say he was in love with her?

Not really ever; even in his engagement interview he was fairly lukewarm and not half as gushing as Harry. I've been in Kate's shoes, but unlike her, when I was dumped, I didn't go all over the place to try to get the guy back. Kate is also not some inexperienced ingenue; she clearly had plenty of experience as a yacht girl and the only female of an all male club. She was out all the time clubbing and boozing it up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 16, 2018, 02:42:59 am
^So far only Wills did the dumb thing and married his gold digger. There's too may odd things regarding Harry and Mehgan's relationship to fully write him off as being another dumb Windsor. It's a crying shame though that rich powerful men do end up marrying women that they know are just interested in them soley for their power and money. It'd be better if they remained single than to marry and be misserable with a WAG who'll spend your money and exploit your position and power.
^^KF, he still treats her like the crap she is but has no self ride she allows it and goes along with anything to keep her position. It seem a woman has to have n self pride and be very sexually experienced to deal with the Windosr men now as Charles, Wills and now Harry's married and is "engaged" towomen like that..  :dontknow: :nervous:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/royal-family/
Mehgan's rating's 33 and Harry's 69 positivity.

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Watching the NAACP awards. Jokes about Meg. Says she's part Jewish and Harry has jungle fever. All the flights from Compton to London are booked. -Wendy Watcher anon.
https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com
If this isn't just gossip, that's another nail in Mehgans "coffin" regarding her playing the race card because this is black people making jokes about her because they see she's black when it suits her as well as a religion jumper; a fake mess.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/27/the-guardian-view-on-prince-harry-the-monarchys-best-insurance-policy
Are the royals that deperate to attract those Britons that are brown and black skinned, because why would this article say that people identify with Mehgan. In what way? She''s foe and lies about her past and family and background. She's a major turn off from the royals/Harry and people are making fun not sying how wonderful and inclusive the royals are.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 16, 2018, 05:39:55 am
Those Lifetime movies about the royal family are so lame really. Don't waste your time watching it. I saw a little clip of mm addressing United Nations a few years back and she was so differently behaved. She was actually professional. This just goes to show this whole gutting thing is such an act. Regardless of whether she's in love with this guy or using him she shouldn't be gushing like some teenager it's ridiculous and it's not really who she is.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 16, 2018, 06:34:54 am
I actually love those movies, SO smarmy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: camilapitanga on January 16, 2018, 12:03:02 pm
^ Camila we are here to discuss Meghan not to discuss what other think or why. If you feel a post is against the rules then please communicate this to a mod.

I wasnt offended by anyone or any comment.Still i would keep an eye on peoples posting about racism since its a very sensitive issue and some people tend to get offended quite easilly.One thing is to deslike MM another is to treat this women suffering racism with disdain and disrespect coz when people does this theyre not only being disrespectfull to her but to millions of people suffering the same.Its like saying i *despise* all people from Japan!Ure not offending one or two but all japanese people.Same goes for all people who suffered/suffers racism when u say it dont exist or people who claim it does are liers, shady, opportunists and whiners ure invalidating this issue and disrespecting millions of people who suffered this.So yes it may need some attention to such things as they are quite heavy and may end up in ugly discussions.

Also noticed that in almost all discussions and topics about MM theres the mention of this "RACE CARD".By saying this u can also be saying that all people who say something about racism who are black or have some link to black person is using this race card for theyre convenience.In another words being a shady, lier person using racism to make others feel sorry for u.Not cool at all.Again racism exist and people whould talk about it if they want without being acused of using if simply for convenience.

MM is a black women who had suffered explicit racist atacks if she wants she can wear the so called race card whenever she wants and im still to see this women talk about racism.Its actually the people who are acusing her of using this "race card" that are bringing such issue on every topic constantlly.People who say they dont even believe in racism and that her color dont matter at all but all they do is talk about it!

Also lets be logical here Britain as a multicultural nation it seems and she  as a royal to be will meet and deal with lots of people from lots of places and colors and is nonsense to say that whenever shes close to a black person or attend some event with black people or related to racism shes is using the race card.Especially coming from people who say they dont even believe in racism!Thats just absurd!

It seems the posters are the ones using the race card whenever they want to atack the women.The thing is they dont realise how serious the issue is and that it should not be used in vain just coz they deslike this women as it affects a LOT of other people not only her.Racism is a very serious issue  and it affects too many people in this wolrd to be distorced and used in vain by people who dont even know what it is, never suffered it and clearlly dont cares about it or who suffers from it and decided to use it  as a tool to criticize and trash prince harrys half black fiancée.


My attitude towards MM has nothing to do with her color. To claim otherwise is odd.

I understood all ure posts Ariel and i know ure opinions on her are not based on her color and i respect ure opinions and reasons to like/deslike her.But one thing is to deslike her and another is to say u dont believe in racism and the next second acuses this women of using racism to benefit herself when shes the one suffering public and explicit racist atacks.

Or u believe in racism or u dont.U cant say the women is using racism for her benefit and convenience and then when shes atacked for racism say it dont even exist or worst say that racism dont exist and everyone who complains about it only does it for attention, benefits or simply for whinning!!!!Thats wrong and i think u should be more carefull about ure opinions on racism as i know it may not be ure intention but some people are quite serious and sensitive about it and not everyone will take such opinions nicelly especially those who deal with such issues every day of theyre lifes.

If there is something negative, not right, shady about this woman no ill-suited KP statement, no race card and no personal attacks on posters should stop it from coming to light.

If shes lying about anything it will eventually come to light.People will get it and she will suffer the consequences.Im not sugesting anyone to change opinions on her coz she suffered an racist atack.U can keep desliking her for whathever reasons u have but still admitt that she suffered racism and thats horrible thats all im saying.But instead u prefer to ignore it or worst try to invent some excuse to invalidate what just happened and twist things in a way that in the end shes the one to blame.Again i dont think is right at all.One thing is to deslike her another tis to ivalidate such a serious thing happenning.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 16, 2018, 01:03:54 pm
Meghan and Harry due to upstage Wills in royal diary clash: Couple will visit Wales on same day Duke of Cambridge carries out engagements elsewhere
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Meghan’s trip to Cardiff will be only her third public visit with Harry since they announced their engagement last November.
On her previous two visits, to Brixton and Nottingham, she attracted crowds of hundreds and media coverage around the world.
William is usually met just by a few polite onlookers.
‘Mark my words, William will be furious,’ a source tells me.
‘He is carrying out these visits because he really believes in the projects.
‘Inevitably, Meghan will attract all the media attention. William understands that, so he will be very frustrated that the engagements were arranged for the same day.’
The clash seems unnecessary, as Harry has no other official engagements this week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5273111/Harry-Meghans-Wales-trip-clashes-Prince-William.html
Celebrity vs royalty. Meghan goes out to
get her pictures taken and to great her very few fans  :whilst Wills goes out to use his position to highlight the cause. Ouch.
IMO, it’s a game to highlight that the royals aren’t celebrities and don’t necessarily need to be modernized to attract the click bait culture that Meghan lives in with her mindless social media accounts and her faux speeches and writings about gender equality and the rest of her nonsense.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5274539/Pregnant-Duchess-Cambridge-Coventry-William.html
Wills and Waity drawing a crowd today.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 16, 2018, 02:33:20 pm
^^I'll continue to stick to my opinion about MM using her mom's skin color to instill sympathy or to get out of being questioned about her dubious past and obvious lies. She only has white friends, dated only white dudes. Anyone who points out the obvious about the lies in her poor me, I'm a victim, I struggled so much (... now give me that Tiara that I want) plot is dubbed as racist. Sorry but in my most humble opinion, if there's a racist in the room that is MM, not the people who point out that she uses the race card as a bargaining chip (bargaining chip that got her the Christmas walk, the MO being: post on blind gossip what she wants, send anon asks to the sugar blogs, they blow out of proportion the excitement for how modernizing to the brf she is, the mainstream media picks up that chatter and prints an article, the people who don't like MM start commenting and to avoid allegations of discrimination, brf invites her)

Another thing I don't have to do is feel sorry for, make excuse of, sympathize or deliver apologies for Meghan's 'suffering'. That's exactly what a narc wants - people to feel sorry for them so that they can play them like a violin. Sorry but I am not sorry for not feeling sorry for a narc like Meghan. IMO Meghan lacks in the talent department and tries to compensate with "pitty me" stories. Guess what - everyone, including the 1%ters have had certain hardships in life. This is not a cause for sympathy trophy. How you deal with what has happened to you is what matters, imo.

I admire and support people who don't stay stuck in the victim mentality (example:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epi7USIi-po (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epi7USIi-po) ), I admire people who make it because of their hard work and talent, beauty and principles. I don't have sympathy or tolerance for people who
- turn their back on their race
Imo Meghan does that with her african-american heritage like at least 90% of the time.
 
- turn their back on their their religion
Meghan was raised catholic, then became jewish so that she can get into the movie industry and marry the wealthy producer, turning now CoE for even more convenience and benefits.

- or they turn their back on their nationality
People are thinking about how Meghan would represent UK and the Commonwealth, I'm dreading that in 3 years we can choose another president but if Meghan marries in, we are stuck in that type of person representing US all over the world and all over the news, regardless if she stays married for a long time or they divorce or annul the marriage right away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 16, 2018, 03:00:20 pm
^ I have to agree.  I have been astounded to read things attributed to Meggles such as that her mother Doria was mistaken for her nanny when she was growing up and how that hurt her because it was racist.  That is incredible.  Here is a photo of Meggles as a child:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-z32ptlvy4Gw/WjA3fgVbrXI/AAAAAAAAGAI/Vi5qtWF3uVcpwiqS0p-3ZTxOM01rVADsQCLcBGAs/s1600/nintchdbpict000370441939.jpg

Meggles is on the left, and she looks very much like a child of Doria, i.e., a girl of color.   Why would she say such things about her mother, and thereby make race an issue in her life.  She grew up in Hollywood for Pete's sake.  Liberal, diverse Hollywood.

These are issues in Meggles' own mind -- no one else's.  And, yes, racism exists and it is deplorable.  But so is sexual abuse, spousal abuse, age discrimination, etc., etc.  Racism is bad, but not the only and most bad, ever, especially in the 21st century.   And if Meggles should be aware that members of the royal family -- into which she so desperately wants to marry -- are called vile names daily and disrespected.   That is part of the package that she is taking on -- voluntarily.

And I agree ^ that Meggles is not a normal, average American.  Again, she grew up in Hollywood with a father in the television industry.  She went to a private school.  She began working in the television industry.  There is nothing normal or average about her.   And she's a whack-a-doo, to boot. 

She's a mess. She brings nothing of substance to the BRF.   Too bad.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 16, 2018, 03:24:56 pm
^^^^Camilapitanga - your post is under Mod review.  You have been asked to not presume to know what others on this forum think nor is it your job to judge how people feel or think or what they believe.  Please be considerate and post only on the thread subject in the interim.  I will make a decision as to whether a cooling off period is required soon.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: LadyLaura on January 16, 2018, 03:46:35 pm
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with people who are stating that meghan markles is a black woman...the truth is, she is no more black than pippa middleton, without the orange. meghan markle is only black when it suits her to be so. when she needs to play the victim, the race card comes out and suddenly she's a long suffering black woman.
this mess just keeps getting more and more nauseating.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 16, 2018, 04:31:56 pm
Someone tell me again, when and how Meghan has used the race card? Thanks  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 16, 2018, 05:47:29 pm
Meghan Markle news: Is Prince William ‘furious’ with Prince Harry’s fiancee over this?
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/905283/Meghan-markle-prince-harry-news-prince-william
The comments are interesting referring this fiasco to get the thoughts of those who voted to remain in the EU because of the places they’ve visited voted remain, her being part black and very unsuitable. One person sounds like Meghan with the bs of her being rich and successful prior to Harry and using the race card to go after those who don’t think Meghan’s great.
^imo, how she used the race card was explained in a few post right here.  :flower: 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 16, 2018, 06:12:39 pm
If she’s so filthy rich, she can pony up for her own wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 16, 2018, 06:28:31 pm
^ The security cost alone would bankrupt her. Roughly about $4mill, no? (And that's for police overtime, etc) The real question is whether she will contribute anything towards the wedding. Yeah, I find it hard to believe she is worth as much as is said by some... but, maybe... then again, maybe not...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 16, 2018, 07:54:16 pm
Traditionally, the bride and/or family contributes something to the wedding. I think what Meghan contributes will be reported.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 16, 2018, 08:12:13 pm
And the rumblings continue to rumble . . . .

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-item-9_16.html



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 16, 2018, 08:22:39 pm
Prince Harry planning a ‘stag do’ in the elite ski resort town of Verbier, apparently
http://www.celebitchy.com/562873/prince_harry_planning_a_stag_do_in_the_elite_ski_resort_town_of_verbier_apparently/

Is Harry planning a stag do on the slopes? Royal protection officers are 'spotted scoping out locations' in exclusive Swiss ski resort - and they could stay in Prince Andrew's £13m chalet
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5267433/Prince-Harrys-Verbier-stag-Royal-Wedding.html#ixzz54NgfWyeb


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 16, 2018, 08:40:17 pm
So true about her wanting all of the attention. He’ll look stupid going through with it.
People seem too embroidered in their own lives to really concern themselves with this crap as they feel that the royals will do as they please anyway. This slipper needs her visa to be able to stay in the Uk. Some people are resigned to the fact that she might be fast tracked to get that or bypass that all together simply because the feeling that what the royals want, they get. IMO, that attitude’s why they’re having a hard time getting people to care about them after the queen. Wills and Waity wasted years doing nothing after marriage, so people got fed up with them. Harry had his ups and downs but people liked him because he seemed caring and down to earth and cared about the people. Now with this, it’s not the same because he’s acting like a celebrity with his z list Hollywood starlet who loves the camera and her “fans” and very little about the causes or the people in general. Unless this is a plan and it’ll end soon, how could he explain being engaged to someone who’s very opposite his views and what he’s been saying about helping the younger generation? Cardiff should be a disaster like all of their other engagements so what’s the point of dragging this out any longer? She has no star power as her public image’s a joke and Harry’s going that same way. Time to unleash the dirt if the gossip’s true. IMO, it should be now and not after the Cambridge’s tour ends.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: D.I.R. on January 16, 2018, 08:41:04 pm
Quote
lefthandscissors said...

http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-item-9_16.html

    A neighbour's brother works at KP and always has good gossip when he comes to visit every other weekend or so. The vetting done on anyone that will be in the public eye is insane.. we're talking MI-5/6 level stuff. If something "narsty" would have cropped up I doubt she'd be where she is now. However there were long deliberations (from what I've been told) over the fact that she's a divorcee. But since Harry really isn't "in-line" as much as he was before (and nearly everyone in the family is divorced at this point..) the decision was made that if it keeps "them" (royal "them".. LOL) from going through another public divorce, all the better. The bonus is that she's an American and could bring even more tourists in solely due to being "the American princess".

    What hasn't been said is what hasn't been printed about Harry's "pre-Meghan" shenanigans that were wiped and paid off before they could become even the tiniest bit of news. If I go by what my neighbour's brother has to say... he'd not be the least bit surprised if there were a few ginger babies out there whose father isn't really their father.
    11:53 AM

I wouldn't be surprised.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 16, 2018, 08:49:55 pm
I am just addressing the comment that Marbles made about her mother being mistaken for a nanny, which some feel was made so she would get people to sympathize about her having had a black looking mother and the struggles that brought in Los Angeles. (Her mother is a lighter tone so she is mixed blood I imagine) This is nonsense if it happened in L.A. and I am explaining why. I have lived here for all of my 60 years. When I was little, we had a black cleaning lady in the early early 60s. Civil Rights Movement was strong and affirmative action programs were put in place, and as a result black persons were entering the middle and upper classes. I never saw nannys or housekeepers that were black after I was 10 years old. Illegal hispanics were entering here right and left for those jobs if they were women. And from then on for myself when I was young and for my kid(cos I worked) I had hispanic nannies. In addition, by the time my son was born, (in MMs generation) all the nannies in my neighborhood and schools,(regardless of the race or ethnics of the child) were hispanic, legal or illegal. In fact hispanics are the majority of people here now. I had one friend who had aux pairs instead of immigrating hispanics, and she had a woman from Nigeria for one year, but after all were from European countries. Now she has resident hispanics for her special needs child.  If MM's mother was mistaken for a nanny, she was not in L.A., or she was dressed very slovenly (as I've seen her from time to time and it is comfortable dressing and I do it for errands) and maybe running after MM who I imagine was a handful and outspoken and perhaps someone thought she was a nanny. But not merely for the color of her skin. Now if she was in the Deep South visiting relatives, that may have happened. I have never been there myself so I couldn't say. But if it were here, then Marbels is making up or exaggerating the race card experience and trying to get sympathy so people will like her, hire her and feel sorry for her struggles as a privileged kid in private schools or on the liberal sets of Los Angeles. I don't know where that was said to her mother. So again if it were somehwere else, I am sorry she went through that. If it were here, she is so fake.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 16, 2018, 08:52:24 pm
No married-in British royals (or for that matter foreign brides or grooms either) pay the vast majority of the cost of their weddings, that is the Church/Chapel, security, reception, any carriage or boat rides (as in Sweden.)

Kate didn't, though her family are reputedly wealthy, Tony Armstrong Jones didn't when he married Margaret, Daniel didn't when he married Crown Princess Victoria, Sophie Wessex didn't (and her father was retired from selling car tyres) Queen Mathilde, none of Princess Beatrix's daughters in law, Sofia didn't when she married Prince Carl Philip, nor did Chris O' Neil when he married Princess Madeline. None of them.

Yet out of every married in, Meghan is supposed to pay half or more for hers?

My guess is that Meghan will probably pay for her gown and the bridesmaids gowns, the flowers, if Harry has a ring, and any hen party beforehand. Harry will probably pony up for the wedding ring, the after-party and any stag do. Both will help pay for any relatives of the bride's accommodation and flights. That's about normal expenditure for every BRF wedding in modern times as far as we know. No more, no less.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 16, 2018, 08:58:28 pm
^^^funny gossip especially since Meghan’s quick to divorce and allegedly have affairs. If she meets the Duke of Westminster, the billionaire young man that’s friends of Wills and George’s godfather, then it’s bye bye Harry. The security services can with hold the nasty stuff from the public and use it to get Harry out of this situation or maybe they used it to get him into this situation to deflect or get info from the public like how they really feel about the monarchy and those that’ll take the helm after the queen’s gone. A crazy scenario like this gets people talking. I’d ask myself where the gossip came from about Harry’s love life and his possibly being a father of a few kids. I know he’s no saint but I don’t believe that he’s this crazy playboy sticking his wick into all sorts either. I feel like the nation’s getting punked with this train wreck. A z list celebrity who’s a divisive figure isn’t going to increase Americans going to the UK.
KF, he could have Meghan as the entertainment as she seems to do that sort of thing at Soho House.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 16, 2018, 09:50:12 pm
It came from here. It also came from here that Doria was called the nanny. In Meghan's article about her being both she said that she had people approach her and insult her mom, but it did not talk how Samantha's mom used to call her.

^The best friend of an ex bf of mine is a narc. Very competitive, always wants to win, goes ballistic if things don't go his way, very sensitive to criticism. Knowing what a narc does to the people they are in relationships, knowing how used, violated and discarded like garbage they feel when the narc decides to move on to the next target, I wouldn't recommend MM to meet nor end up with any man be it Harry or his duke friend or any man in the world, and that includes the men that have gone to the blue bear adult dancing club where she allegedly learned the stipping skills in her acting resume that we dismissed so quickly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 16, 2018, 09:53:35 pm
^^ That'd depend on how dumb and blind Hugh could potentially be, but it is said that his father raised him to be cautious and that he has a lioness for a mother who'll protect her children, and a bunch of sisters! I think it's harder to get to or rather into Hugh's head than dumb Harry's and silly Billy's  :)
When I read "duke of W" I first thought of Gerald! Kinda weird that Hugh's the duke now...

Apart from the above quoted comments, I also find this one interesting, amongst some others:
"I think Meghan has a hard time connecting with people because she's just put on so many masks in the last few years. When she was with the first husband, she was a party girl doing wheelbarrow races on the beach at her wedding. With the chef boyfriend, she was a foodie travel blogger who wanted to have a show on the Food Network. With Harry, she's a globetrotting humanitarian. They've even tried several personas since the engagement. First it was confident, brash American who was going to take the world by storm. Now, after the $75,000 dress debacle, they're trying on the "shy Meghan" look. It's confusing."

^ What dancing club is the blue bear and where is it? Never heard of it!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 16, 2018, 09:57:12 pm
It started with a DM comment that tumblr picked up pretty soon afterwards. This is supposedly a stip club in LA where Meghan was working.

https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com/image/169785358976


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 16, 2018, 10:01:54 pm
^ I see, thank you!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 16, 2018, 10:06:49 pm
Quote
immy Fondren, Atlanta, United States, 1 day ago
At some point, the goods will need some repair, a hymeneal restoration.

Quote
On being told Meghan was accompanying Harry on his school trip to Cardiff Castle on Thursday she asked why on earth did they build it below a flight path?



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 16, 2018, 10:08:28 pm
It was tongue in cheek.  As if Sparkles would pay out of pocket for anything.  That’s a laugh.  That’s what other people are for and how it’s done in showbiz to make yourself look wealthy.  All show, no go.  Just wish they’d stop downplaying any overt displays of wealth as if she’s paid for it herself but can’t pay for anything else.  It can’t be both ways.

The great humanitarian also has a poor track record of supporting all these causes of hers.  She’s quite the piece of work.  Grifter still covers it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 17, 2018, 01:30:42 am
^ The security cost alone would bankrupt her. Roughly about $4mill, no? (And that's for police overtime, etc) The real question is whether she will contribute anything towards the wedding. Yeah, I find it hard to believe she is worth as much as is said by some... but, maybe... then again, maybe not...

It has been stated several times in the press that, between her per episode salary and endorsements, she made roughly $400K/year BEFORE TAXES during the latter years of Suits. Her take home drops down a good bit considering she would have been required to pay taxes in two countries and she doesn't seem to have to tax buffers (dependents, real estate) that most in that tax bracket would put in place for themselves. Decent money? Yeah. Independent millionaire she's being portrayed as in the press? Not even close by a long shot.

Ariel & Lady Laura, if I could thank you for your posts a million times, I would.  :worship:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 17, 2018, 02:40:44 am
How long have Prince Harry and Meghan Markle been together? Couple’s romance began in 2016
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/905574/prince-harry-meghan-markle-how-long-relationship
Back to the time line and her cringworthy VF interview. The DM usually pick up articles from the Express, so unless someone's going to come out, Corey, and clarify the actual timeline I don't know why the press would bring this up again.  ???


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on January 17, 2018, 08:47:21 am
I know I'm waaaaay off topic but last week was a rough week for me with the loss of my Grandmother. But my sincere apologies to all I have offended or taken any joy away from "dishng"/ gossiping. Again, my deepest apogolgies  :sorry:  

We must learn to live together as brothers(sisters) or perish together as fools. Martin Luther King, Jr.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 17, 2018, 10:34:30 am
^ How are you, ohmy? Were you able to take at least a couple days off to grieve? They say that grannies love their grandchildren more than their children and I believe that the opposite is also true.
No need to apologize at all. If there had been something - it was nothing as a german friend of mine says. I don't know if it makes sense when translated badly in English. I can't speak for others but when it comes to disliking someone, I don't have a need or joy to dish someone. In the H&M relationship I am more on the indignant side.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 17, 2018, 04:36:17 pm
What is an okapi? Endangered animal born at London Zoo named after Meghan Markle
The exotic African creature is an endangered species, meaning the birth of baby Meghan is particularly joyous. Here we look at the cute creature's natural habitat, and the dangers it faces in the wild.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5355306/okapi-meghan-markle-london-zoo/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: logically on January 17, 2018, 05:29:53 pm
^ Absolutely spot on!!!!!!!! :worship: :worship:

The ladies are the same for all intent and purpose and the boys are cut from the same cloth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 17, 2018, 06:12:09 pm
Guess who? Designer releases 'Harry and Meghan wedding dolls' that look NOTHING like them … and she wants $181 for the pair

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5279471/Harry-Meghan-wedding-dolls-look-like-them.html#ixzz54T0HERSm
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 17, 2018, 06:36:42 pm
It looks like she only dressed them and used dolls already manufactured . Not worth anywhere near that price.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 18, 2018, 12:25:22 am
Modified because of posting article link error.  It was about the UKIP member girlfriend's remarks about MM.  Thanks, YM


Here is another version.  If this isn't the right one, there are a zillion of them out there for anybody to look up but I can't locate Huffpo's now.

What I found troubling, other than everything obvious, is how quickly this mushroomed and was used by various outlets to attack other groups, politicians, individuals.  This is about one person being extremely either cruel or stupid or both, or should be.

Anyway, here's one without all the drama:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukip-henry-bolton-dumps-girlfriend-jo-marney-racist-meghan-markle-messages/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukip-henry-bolton-dumps-girlfriend-jo-marney-racist-meghan-markle-messages/)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 18, 2018, 05:16:06 am
^ That is a looooooooooooong post!

^^ Yes, but some people love their dolls and pay high prices for them. They really should move the clothes over to a doll with red hair and blue eyes for Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 18, 2018, 06:05:08 am
Apologies to everyone I was trying to do a hyperlink and I totally messed up I am so sorry and I will never do it again it was a Huffington Post link about Harry Bolton who broke up with his girlfriend because of a comment she made on Facebook about Meghan Markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 18, 2018, 07:29:02 am
^There was an article with screenshots of the comments in dm. As windsor2 said - this woman is hardly a good example of an educated opinion. Dumping her is just saving face for the racist remarks, not because she's a social climber or has a questionable past.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 18, 2018, 02:16:05 pm
A handful of fans are anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Happy Couple !!!   

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5283675/Meghan-Markle-Cardiff-Harry-trip-Wales.html

 :loveshower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 18, 2018, 02:24:14 pm
^Oh, God, is that today already?   :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 18, 2018, 02:30:11 pm
^ Yes, Yooper!   Didn't you have that marked down on your Markle Memo Pad?     :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 18, 2018, 02:48:57 pm
^I was too busy reading her Daily Affirmation memes all night and forgot.  It's all layers and organic.   :stop:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 18, 2018, 05:50:20 pm
https://felix2001a.tumblr.com/post/169834945330/jerseydeanne-iamstillskippy-iamstillskippy
I've ticked either Mehgan or someone close to her off. She's highlighted me in her rants.  It must be true that she looks through various forums to see what people are saying about her. Well she’s not going to like what’s being said about her regarding that over the top display of her “fans” going wild for her. The crowd looked like extras for the tv shows that filmed around Cardiff than regular people out waiting to see Harry and her.  :tehe: This is all cheapening the monarchy and turning into Hollywood. I’m sure the queen and other senior royals aren’t pleased at all today. She’s in charge and Harry’s her assistant it seems as she walks the red carpet today.
She’s got plenty to hide but won’t be able to because I do believe that she’s got nudes and videos of her doing very nasty things and they will come out.  :cookie:
I bet Wills will be ticked off at what little coverage his events got as Harry and Meghan play Hollywood couple in Cardiff.  :cookie: One could say it’s not their fault what the press covers, but Wills event benefits the veterans and Harry’s trip only boosted Meghan’s ego. But as Kate said, enjoy the moment because what Harry’s doing has nothing to do with being a royal and everything to get him booted out of his position.
Meghan is boring and transparent and being made a fool of. You’re not winning over the royals or the British people. What she’s experiencing is all smoke and mirrors, fake just like she is. Your past will be exposed and theirs nothing that can be done about it, so she and her minions should stop ranting and bringing me into their crap. The blogs wouldn’t bother with her if she was decent and had a clean background. She’s acting like a hood rat with her rants and accusations. Straight back to President Trump’s America is what’s going to happen to her very soon, IMO.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 18, 2018, 05:58:24 pm
Well, fer shame, Windsor2 . . . . you bein' all mean and stuff to poor Meggles . . . . .       lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 18, 2018, 06:01:32 pm
^I know, straight to the Tower for me.  : :tehe: 
Poor thing can’t handle the truth.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 18, 2018, 06:45:30 pm
^Windsor2, you must be doing something right if what you're saying is pushing their buttons.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 18, 2018, 07:00:21 pm
^I must be for me to be singled out like that.  Maybe I’ll be on the queen’s honor list this year to get an honor after doing my bit to see this strumpet off back to America.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 18, 2018, 07:11:46 pm
^That's actually untrue what was said about your posts, windsor.  It's my job to read what everyone writes about Sparkles and you have never said anything of the kind, especially the animal reference.  Good grief. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 18, 2018, 07:19:24 pm
^^ Perhaps she was referring to a female dog? Did you ever call her one?  :dontknow:  I feel like this is taking a turn into the twilight zone. Do you know who your accuser is?  :there:  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 18, 2018, 07:20:15 pm
@ Windors2 they really like to going after you they did with Cressida now with Meghan . yes i haven't seeing anyone calling Meghan any kind of animal on here or Royal dish.  ^ ah maybe they could be referring to animal as B

one thing i can agree with anyone can submit anything to Enty . on other gossip blogs posters say they will submit stories which are lies to see if it gets posted and it does . Enty is not like it was a while back when it had legit soruces


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 18, 2018, 08:44:52 pm
Still, if what was said in the blind was utter lies, MM's defender wouldn't be so worked up about it.  :akasha: What is she afraid of ... that people will dig up the truth and will find a loophole in the NDAs which MI5 supposedly has handed out together with hush money envelopes?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 18, 2018, 09:05:37 pm
^I must be for me to be singled out like that.  Maybe I’ll be on the queen’s honor list this year to get an honor after doing my bit to see this strumpet off back to America.  :cookie:

That would be awesome, Windsor!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 18, 2018, 10:48:28 pm
I'll defend you Windsor2. You go girl!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 18, 2018, 10:53:12 pm
An endangered animal in the London zoo was named after her. I’ve used this  :akasha: in place of a word I was banned to use here; the word starts with h and then an o. Quite right that her and her minions are concerned about something coming out. I believe she’s done a nude scenes and posed for nudes and thinks that Harry and the royal family will cover that up. IMO, since she seemed to have been a pain that wouldn’t get lost last year, they’ll get released now that she’s a known name in tabloids and gossip shows; the perfect place for her sleeve to be displayed and discussed.
I remember about being singled out also for Cressida. Funny how I was right about her too. At the end of the day, she played games with the press on a smaller scale than Meghan, but IMO, Meghan’s a pro. IMO, Harry’s acting like her agent/walker on the red carpet also known as public engagements that are meant to highlight causes. This is Hollywood behavior not royal.
^ and ^^  :hi:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 18, 2018, 10:54:29 pm
Rebecca English "Oh, and one more thing of interest to royal watchers: #MeghanMarkle is being helped by a new assistant private secretary, Amy Pickerill. She was a press officer but has been sequestered by Harry for his private office and will be helping #Meghan on engagements and with her diary. "
https://mobile.twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/954109598922956800
https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/954109598922956800

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT1TlK2W4AAYo06.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 18, 2018, 10:55:08 pm
Harry should know better.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 18, 2018, 11:00:33 pm
^I think a lot of people got it right before I did way back when.  This is Harry’s speed, behavior and he just doesn’t attract any better.  I was surprised just how old and rough Sparkles looks up close today.  This will take a toll on everyone.  It has before!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 18, 2018, 11:31:40 pm
Don't royal brides get assigned Ladies in Waiting to teach them the ropes? I haven't heard anything along those lines so far about Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 19, 2018, 12:52:50 am
^yes, but she's not really a royal bride. She's more of a showbiz one. Mehgan's concern is to continue to get headlines in the press, not learning about protocol, the royal family, Harry's role or the UK and the Commonwealth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2018, 05:57:48 am
^ Exactly, her MO is breaking protocol so that people talk about her hair, and the boots, and the outfit, and how she walks, the makeup she uses, the over the top facial expressions she's practiced, the copying of Diana, the one upping of Kate. It's all about the me-me-me. Good ol' distraction from digging into or exposing her past.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 19, 2018, 10:08:06 am
I don't see how see is copying Diana. Kate also had some way over exaggerated facial expressions.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 19, 2018, 11:27:14 am
THe trend seems to be for royals mugging on appearances, even the elder ones do it sometimes.  Is some PR adviser telling them it "humanizes" them when they make faces and so on. Sometimes it is just too much. It seems like Meghan will follow suit.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 19, 2018, 12:26:10 pm
Don't think M will ever have a "lady-in-waiting", K doesn't either. They now have assistants, secretaries, staff. Tbh it's one of the things that are "modernized" where I think it's a good idea. Firstly I don't think that any (aristocratic) women are lining the streets for that job, secondly they'd have to do it for free, and thirdly a "lady-in-waiting" just has no place in today's world, what is said lady even "waiting" for? Is it "waiting to get married" or "waiting on the sponger royal"? Doesn't even matter, it's simply out-dated. And as K doesn't have one, it'd look very bad if M had one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 19, 2018, 12:40:50 pm
Unlikely style sisters! Rocker Courtney Love wears the same Stella McCartney coat as Meghan Markle - hours after the royal bride-to-be visited Cardiff
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5287875/Meghan-Markle-Courtney-Love-wear-coat-hours-apart.html
I wonder if she’ll continue to be linked and compared with people who’s considered unladylike like this woman.
Her getting an assistant frees Harry and his staff from begging to be invited to places, thereby wasting time that could be spent elsewhere. IMO, Meghan’s not going to get invited to places and most likely won’t be getting mail so she won’t be busy because Meghan will spend her days attacking the blogs and trying to stop the blind items coming out. I agree that there’s no joy around her and Harry as a couple like there was for other royal unions. There’s more dread than happiness with people wondering what’s really going on because Harry’s not acting like his usual self when he’s around her, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 19, 2018, 01:26:32 pm
Meghan & Harry: dresses and kids

"[...]

They weren’t together much last weekend. The reason: my sources tell me Meghan’s first wedding dress fitting was this past weekend! I’m told she’s not yet decided on a specific dress but the options were definitely narrowed down.

[...]"

http://www.laineygossip.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-visit-children-at-star-hub-community-centre-in-wales/48928

Why would they have been apart over the weekend if she had her 1st fitting? Did she have to fly to Rome for it? :- Doesn't make sense. A fitting doesn't take up that much time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2018, 02:13:36 pm
^Maybe she went to different designers. I might be wrong but don't you go on a fitting when you already chose the dress and they are custom tailoring it for you. If you're undecided you go shopping, not fitting.I feel sorry for the lainey chick. She's on the wrong side of the fence and is a good example why the Windsors don't like to be associated with snitches like MM. Calling Samantha opportunistic is rich coming from lainey who shares inside scoops given to her from the horse's mouth who is I'd say opportunistic on steroids. I's a bit annoying that people forget that Sam and MM share the same father and the same upbringing and are much more alike than not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 19, 2018, 02:26:15 pm
Samantha has issues IMO. Why the need to run to the media for example? Is it $$$?  I doubt she will "stop the wedding" in any case. Maybe she wants an invite but is going about it in the wrong way. IMO because they have the same father does not mean they are "alike." Even identical twins can have extremely different personalities and outlooks on life.  Samantha IMO is shooting herself in the foot and I think it is self destructive behavior. I think she's really hurting herself. At least this did not disintegrate into a Dr. Phil situation where the two go back and forth. Meghan has not spoken out publicly against her half sister.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 19, 2018, 04:26:38 pm
^imo, she’s definitely a grifter con artist and the rest of her family seems money grabbers and unsavory, dishonest people with bankruptcies and possible criminal records.
Avoid the high street, ditch the black, and NEVER wear denim again: Etiquette expert William Hanson’s royal style advice for Meghan Markle following her debut engagements
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5287803/William-Hanson-says-Meghan-master-royal-fashion-rules.html

The article referring Harry being a feminist is quite funny because it’s so contrary to being a royal bride to be/future member of the royal family. IMO, he either doesn’t care what she does or she couldn’t care to listen. She’s the boss or as equal to him in all things in this relationship.  :bored: She really delusional and could care less about the UK or the royal family. The comments are brutal speaking of her profession in between acting jobs where she uses her body as trade.  :cookie:   


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2018, 04:51:19 pm
I was waiting for the right time to make a comment on tge funeral attire. Maybe MM can be a feminist and wear black dress for the wedding and dress her puppet  in white.

IMO Sam is doing exactly what MM is doing - making a buck out of a royal ... association. And making a name fir herself in an attempt for a comback in the industry.

Let's face it - MM can't do yachting now because too many people know. Her acting skills don't make her bookable especially with her pushing 40. She's listed herself as a speaker but she's famous for the same thing that Monica Lewinski was and with Monica it was a scandal with MM it's a meh.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 19, 2018, 05:00:21 pm
She and Monica are light years apart IMO. For a variety of reasons. But this is not a Monica thread (interestingly I heard reports about her on the radio this morning--it's the 20th anniversary of the Monica-Clinton saga).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 19, 2018, 05:02:41 pm
^^yes, so her “engagement” to Harry has shut down her yachting activities so that leaves her making a bit of change merchandising.
She can have this version of Harry. The Harry that the public likes is the one prior to getting mixed up with this minx. She wants the Harry that looks at her the way he did Chelsey. All she has is him acting like he likes and respects her.
I’m sure she’ll be back on the blogs ranting about the DM comments and the blogs bringing up articles about her love life prior to Harry that she’d rather have white washed. Harry can’t get her a job in Hollywood or any where else, so she’s toast even if by some remote chance that there is a marriage. The public doesn’t like this union and aren’t feeling this odd prince Harry either, hence the small crowds.
https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2137663/prince-harrys-girl-meghan-markle-split-from-hubby-after-getting-close-to-canadian-ice-hockey-star-michael-del-zotto/
Her ridiculous statement was a waste of time because these rumors are more truth than fiction. She can’t rube her dirt off of her no matter what happens with her and Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2018, 05:30:23 pm
^^ The stories are different but the prospects are similar. If Harry figures out that he's MM's claim to fame, she may not continue top be the boss of him, calling him feminist and all that


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 19, 2018, 05:46:45 pm
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Chatting to the crowds who had waited patiently in the cold outside Cardiff Castle, she was lauded by Jessica Phillips, 23, for her outspoken feminist views.

Miss Markle, 36, replied: 'He [Harry] is a feminist too, so there's that.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5286379/Harrys-feminist-like-Meghan-tells-Welsh-fans.html
 :tehe: dumb comment by her.

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sadandtired, Pittsburgh, United States, 1 hour ago
Sigh. She gave up everything to tag along behind a rich man. He gives her money for her shopping needs, he tells her when and where to show up. Now, she can't even walk without clinging to his arm, she even has to walk behind him. Exactly WHAT indicates a feminist thought process there?
Comment from article above.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 19, 2018, 06:35:40 pm
^Maybe she went to different designers. I might be wrong but don't you go on a fitting when you already chose the dress and they are custom tailoring it for you. If you're undecided you go shopping, not fitting. I feel sorry for the lainey chick. She's on the wrong side of the fence and is a good example why the Windsors don't like to be associated with snitches like MM. Calling Samantha opportunistic is rich coming from lainey who shares inside scoops given to her from the horse's mouth who is I'd say opportunistic on steroids. I's a bit annoying that people forget that Sam and MM share the same father and the same upbringing and are much more alike than not.

Exactly. Fittings also shouldn't take up "Most of the weekend". Shopping around on the other hand.. Which isn't a "fitting", but, well, shopping.
Maybe she tried on dresses to decide on a silhouette, but then again she's done this before, so there shouldn't be news/ surprises for her, plus the red carpet outfits, so she should know by now what kind of dress shape she likes and suits her.

The Lainey "scoop" just imo doesn't make too much sense, and considering that Lainey gets her news straight from the horse's mouth, I wonder what is up. :dontknow:

I also agree re: Samantha. Sam indeed does the same what Lainey does, and what Murkles has been doing since shacking up with H.
A case of the pot calling the kettle black, no?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 19, 2018, 07:05:24 pm
^ Maybe she's digging in deep to make it harder to unload her? Maybe PH is getting cold feet, having second thoughts or is just beginning to see the real Sparkle now they are spending more time together and he doesn't like what he sees?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 19, 2018, 10:22:15 pm
I don't think PH is going to unload her at this point. It would have to be now before major money is spent on this wedding and it doesn't look like he's unloading her in any way. It would have to be some act of God the closer the wedding approaches. So the world is stuck with her face in their faces at the markets at least and on the news here and there for awhile.  That is the thing with those two of Diana's. What they choose we live with whether we like it or not. This one of PH was a bad choice for a wife of his as opposed to other Americans he could have dated. His friend Pelly married a socialite or heiress from the South. The Southerners are more compatible with the lifestyle of the Royals from what I have seen when visiting the UK. I *despise* to say this, but the women from my hometown are not the best choices because of how we are brought up which is very free style.  That's MHO. But she got to him and hooked him in. This is what he was looking for in a mate. I still say they will get divorced.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 20, 2018, 12:34:45 am
 :hello:  I'm late, but let's comment,   :flower:

Never has one outfit been designed to send so many messages!  :laugh:
From her mismatched earrings to her Sloaney boots, how every item Meghan wore was intended to make a statement
http://www.dailymail.co.u...ficial-visit-Cardiff.html
Meghan  :June:  she's really fascinating.   
with the right ear helps - the cause of the empowering women.
and with the left ear helps - the cause of the environment.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/18/22/48473EF600000578-5284771-image-a-37_1516314562384.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/18/22/48473EF600000578-5284771-image-m-36_1516314554222.jpg
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A pair of trendy mismatched earrings: Meghan picked an arrow shaped stud by Zofia Day (£415) that she’s worn before in October’s Vanity Fair (left). The brand believes in ‘giving back to the community by empowering women to follow their own passion and journey to self-love’. The other earring is a Gabriela Artigas triple star climber (right), sold at Saks Fifth Avenue, now in the sale for £114.21. These are apparently made with a ‘conscious and respectful outlook toward the environment’.
How did no other woman,of royalty ,not thought of this before?  :wopedo:  I've never seen anything like it, I'm impressed .  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 20, 2018, 12:53:57 am
^ Maybe she's digging in deep to make it harder to unload her? Maybe PH is getting cold feet, having second thoughts or is just beginning to see the real Sparkle now they are spending more time together and he doesn't like what he sees?
She can do that if she wants, but imo, she's played all of her cards. She can't claim victim of anything when she gets unloaded.
Now wouldn't it make sense to use the money that'll be wasted on this wedding, if by some remote chance it does happen, to spend it on the homeless and other causes that Mehgan claims to champion? It would make people like her a little bit if she decided to go to the registry office for the wedding/blessing and then have a small intimate reception soemwhere nearby. But since she's a narc, she causes nothing but stress and chaos in her wake. I'm just singling her out since Harry's her bit player in her drama an her preperations for a wedding.
Homeless ‘threatened with jail’ during Prince Harry, Meghan Markle’s Wales visit
https://www.rt.com/uk/416435-homeless-cardiff-jail-royal/

IMO, it's pretty bad as taste, but then it's Hollywood Meghan and her stylist Jessica, so no surprise there.
Meghan Markle Has Officially Picked Her Wedding Dress Designer
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A royal insider confirmed to E! News that Meghan enlisted the help of her bestie and Canadian bridal stylist Jessica Mulroney to help her with the process of picking the right gown.

"This was Meghan's first fitting with the designer and a chance for her and Jessica to look through a number of different designs," the insider tells us, noting the fitting was top-secret and the designer is only known by about five people.
In fact, royal reporter Omid Scobie told Good Morning America, "Meghan expressed the desire to wear something simple and classy and very elegant. They've tried on a number of different designs and are currently whittling it down to pick the best design for the day."
http://www.eonline.com/news/907506/meghan-markle-has-officially-picked-her-wedding-dress-designer


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 20, 2018, 01:50:54 am
Deleted per member request. YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 20, 2018, 02:06:51 am
^IMO, she looked like she was bored and ticked off at times and Harry rubbed it in when he encouraged the kids to hug her.
The royals are not the Kardashians, Miss Markle: AMANDA PLATELL says the young royals must move with the times but be careful what they wish for
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After visiting Cardiff with Harry for her third official public engagement, Meghan Markle must have been delighted with the wall-to-wall media coverage.
She was doing selfies with the crowd, signing autographs, kissing hands, throwing high-fives, encouraging group hugs — and the cameras loved it. Harry even invited a crowd of youngsters to mob his fiancée, saying: 'Everyone give Meghan a hug — go!'
The Prince was pictured surrounded by young girls thrilled at being allowed to put their arms round him.
It was certainly change for the monarchy. But was it a change for the better?
Of course, Meghan is a welcome breath of fresh air for the institution — her glamour, confidence and youthful sense of fun have injected it with vim and popularity.
And yet to see a royal of Harry's rank — not very long ago, remember, he was spare to the heir — being mobbed in this way just wasn't very British or regal. Indeed, centuries of tradition were being washed away.
I don't want to be po-faced, and quite understand that the monarchy needs to adapt and modernise. But what next? Should we all be hugging Camilla and Charles on their next walk-about. Or, God forbid, the Queen?
It is clear Meghan is endearingly desperate to please. Joining The Firm is a daunting prospect even for a sophisticated 36-year-old TV celebrity. Yet every item of her £3,300 outfit in Cardiff was sending out a blatant message. The women-empowering earrings, the £1,350 cruelty-free Stella McCartney coat, the £295 handbag whose purchase provides money to abandoned and orphaned children.
There's a thin line between doing good and signalling how virtuous you are. We may live in an age of social media, but the Windsors are not the Kardashians.
Times have moved on since the Victorian constitutional historian Walter Bagehot wrote of the Royal Family: 'Its mystery is its life, we must not let in daylight upon magic.'
But to a great extent, his words still hold true. The monarchy survives on respect and restraint, on mystery and, yes, magic.
It is precisely because of her dignity and refusal to play to the cameras — to drum up that Hollywood, red-carpet fever we saw in Cardiff — that the Queen is one of the most successful monarchs in our history.
Yes, the young royals must move with the times — but they should be careful what they wish for.
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DrainThe Media Swamp, End Cworrupt Media Sensorship, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
The Windsors have become objects of disgust for me. It's time to abolish this medievaI deity worship and repossess their property for the country.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5290985/The-royals-not-Kardashians-Miss-Markle.html#ixzz54gbhZICP
Quite right.  :thumbsup:  People are increasingly disgusted that the Windsor's are on par with the trashy Kardashians.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 20, 2018, 06:12:49 am
^^She's 36 and she's bragged on her ig that JM's kids love her. She even taught the girl to dance, per her ig, but now, when she's at a real kids dancing school and they hug her and all she has to do is accept that hug in a motherly way she's stiff and unaccepting. Where's the motherly instinct she's been bragging about? If she does not like kids, why is she stringing along PH? Does she think that a kid needs a nanny not a mommy?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 20, 2018, 12:38:44 pm
 :hello: Yopper or Alexandra ,please Can you delete my message before/above?


 :sorry: sorry, I wrote in the wrong Topic,   :shy: and had no more time to edit.

I'll put it here : Prince Harry & Meghan will visit Cardiff January 18th  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 20, 2018, 12:48:37 pm
^Ok.  I’ll delete the post above and understand you will repost in Cardiff visit thread.  No problem!

^^Accepting hugs or affection is a world apart from giving it.  She is supposed to be there for them, being the adult in the room.  Looks desperate.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 20, 2018, 01:16:22 pm
^  :thankyou:  kisss  :BFF:

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Yes, the young royals must move with the times — but they should be careful what they wish for.

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There's a thin line between doing good and signalling how virtuous you are. We may live in an age of social media, but the Windsors are not the Kardashians

exactly  :wopedo: for William and Harry principally.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 20, 2018, 05:32:26 pm
She and he better watch it. The way they act is inviting problems and I don't know if security can protect them from everyone unless you have metal detectors in every pathway. Now that it is officially Hollywood red carpet with the autographs and group photos, Harry has brought down the monarchy through MM to the American way, which is ironic because our way is to get rid of the BRF. And that's what will happen down the line. It is the beginning of the end of it. Or, maybe that happened with Kate or with Diana who was determined to undermine it. She didn't agree with how they treated her or how they did things. In any event, I knew when Diana had the first boy, I knew he would be William because I knew it was circular, the first real King of England ( to be UK )was William and so would the last one be named. I don't see George being King by that time and we can thank Harry for speeding down the process with his ludicrous choice for a royal bride. I am glad my Grandpa is not alive to see this. On a positive note, it is nice the RF is accepting the less stuffy way of public engagements.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 20, 2018, 05:41:02 pm
https://felix2001a.tumblr.com/post/169916014580
It looks like Meghan's being pitted against Wills. It's a loosing battle since one is aa blood born royal and future king and the other one's actually beneath the likes of the Kardashians wch is saying a lot.  :cookie:  
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They want to rent a villa round the corner from the celeb couple in Great Tew near Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire, it has been rumoured by locals in the fashionable area an hour from London that's home to David Cameron, the Beckhams and Jeremy Clarkson.
The Roman villa is also just round the corner from the glamorous Soho Farmhouse hotel that's often frequented by celebrities.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5291627/Harry-Meghan-want-rent-Roman-villa-Oxfordshire.html#ixzz54kP03CIY
^people seem to want the monarchy to change and get with the times. What that equates to is trashy celebrity culture like Megan represents. In the end, people want tradition that the queen represents and not reality trash.
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 20, 2018, 05:55:15 pm
I doubt W&K care about MM and PH. They get plenty of attention themselves and always will. In fact, I bet they like the break from all it at once.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 20, 2018, 06:20:26 pm
I think that Wills would be concerned because her behavior underminds everything what royalty's supposed to be about. Royalty highlihts causes like Wills does and cheap celebrities like her shows up for pr only; to get her mug in the papers and highlight her paid sponsor attire. Just look at the press coverage for the Cardiff visit. I think this has to do with preserving and controlling the narrative of royal brand in the age of social media where anything fake can be presented as real.
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But since social media has now become prominent, as a star who's life is constantly in the spotlight, she wants to control the narrative.  
'Social media is empowering in many ways, but the part that is concerning for me, especially with my personal brand, is that that power can be misused, she began, in a previous interview with The Hollywood Reporter. 'It can be a brand killer.'
'If I am having dinner with a friend, and a man comes up and asks to take a picture, most times I will always say, "Of course!" But then that person posts the picture on the social media as if I am dating that person, and suddenly I am dating, like, 100 people.'
'People actually have the power to affect your brand in this day and age, and I have little control over it. And that's the frustrating part.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5291105/Halle-Berry-encourages-fans-workout-Instagram-post.html#ixzz54kYjtrnp [/quote]
It's hard to believe that stunning Hallie's older than Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 20, 2018, 07:01:53 pm
^ I think that PW doesn't care that someone else gets publicity but how the publicity is viewed is what he might not like. I don't know that he would care as much as he is from a younger generation and did marry a commoner like Kate. It would be Charles that I think would be more concerned with the type of hype MM is bringing. But I thought Wills didn't really want to be King so I wonder how much he cares without the Meds making him care. I think they care more than PC. But I don't like it so maybe he doesn't either. I am sure Kate does not like it or maybe she does as she can look down on her secretly. However, this sets a pace for his kids and he very well may not want them running out in the crowds and press to get attention as he still views the press as killing his mom. So for that reason, he may not like this stuff MM is bringing into their lives.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 20, 2018, 11:18:12 pm
^it's about what's royal and what's not. People don't understand why royalty still exist. People groan about Wills being boring but he's a royal who's not an attention craving person like that woman MM is and wants to bring her ideas into how the monarchy should be; Hollywood, over-the-top touchy feely, celebrity image. Wills is showing what real royalty's about and MM is showing how the monarchy will be cheapened if her way is followed. The press and the people have been griping about how the monarchy needs to be modernized, but MM is showing how ineffective it'll be if it's brought down to the celebrity reality tacky level where the focus will only be on her. When she's around Harry, Harry fades into the background as she takes over and does her merchandising and an loving the attention of the crowd and the press. The purpose of the visit gets lost in the narrative.
Pop round to Kensington Palace to watch the Big Match on my wedding day, Prince Harry tells charity friends (but he doesn't mean the FA Cup final!)
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Supporters of Sentebale, the charity founded by Prince Harry in 2006 to help vulnerable children in Lesotho and Botswana, have received emails alerting them to the exclusive celebration, which will feature a reception and a ‘viewing party’, an American term for a big-screen gathering popular for events such as the Oscars.
‘Guests will be able to watch events unfold on giant screens, while mingling with an exclusive crowd.
‘They can say they went to Kensington Palace for the wedding. To Americans, that’s a big deal.’
A spokesman for Kensington Palace declined to comment.
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Yandell, Chicago, United States, 20 minutes ago
Are the invited charity friends aware that Meghan is a nearly 40-year-old woman, not the presenting coy young orphan from America ? But a professional actress with prior husbands, and a very large, extensive, and existing family ? Their charity and taxed payments include the big screen TV, food, clothing, music, security, honeymoon trip and more ?
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Pam, PHL, 11 minutes ago
How tacky and arrogant. Not good enough to be invited to the service, so pay your own way to come to London and watch me on my big TV. I am seriously starting to lose respect for Harry.
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Londontaxpayer, London, United Kingdom, 12 minutes ago
If these invited guests aren't actually at the main event, what's the point of them flying half way across the world to watch the wedding on a large TV in London. Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier for them to stay at home and watch it on their own TVs seeing as it will most probably be televised around the world anyway.
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DH, Sydney, 15 minutes ago
What on earth??!! Watch as Commonwealth countries like Australia and Canada now start having referendums on becoming republics. William and Kate aren't particularly respected as they are work-shy, but Harry and Meghan will destroy the British Monarchy. It will happen. Awful couple.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5292751/Harry-tells-pals-watch-wedding-Kensington-Palace.html#ixzz54lm57CmM
 ???  If there's any big screens around KP, it's to watch the FA Cup.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 20, 2018, 11:45:51 pm
I see the younger ones as liking the perks but they should be doing more work. William complains about the "weight of duty" when he does little. He's reluctant to do the work but I don't think he minds the perks of being a future King. Harry should be doing more as well. I think both should avoid the "fun" things like getting cameo roles in Star Wars The Last Jedi and people guessing were they or weren't they in it. With the emphasis on "fun" it is not so good. These two should get serious now they are in their thirties. Harry and Meghan should take on serious charities and don't sail on excuses for doing little work.

Isn't the FA cup on later than the wedding?  So tourists can see both?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 20, 2018, 11:58:03 pm
The beers start to be poured at lunch time on FA cup day, if the boys have not bought tickets, they gather together and if it is at someone's house, the women get there too. It's like a Thanksgiving gathering of the family for them. It's their national holiday and although technically there is no time overlap the fathering of the groups of friends starts at lunch on that day and an event to compete with their biggest day of the year is not liked. This is the one day of the year in which all the boys (for which soccer is religion) can play the "do you love me enough" card with their gfs and wives and get us to sit and watch how awesome they are at discussing soccer. MM trying to take that away from them is ... I'd say not polite and I'd imagine that this is one very, very good reason to not be liked.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 12:01:59 am
^^No, just like the American's Super Bowl, there're pre-game activies.
^eaxactly.
IMO, since Catherine Quinn came on board, I see a bit of an improvement with both Wills and Waity. The Meghan and Harry show is pure vapid Hollywood stuff and cements them in the celebrity world. They can't represent serious work or charaties because they're not interested in that; only the perks. Actually, Harry's just following arrogant dumb Meghan's lead. She knows nothing of the UK's obsession with football. That's going to be a big day with people out an about preparing themselves for the game. Nothing else will matter on that day surely not a tacky marriage that'll end in divorce. Anyway, this seems like a desperate move fro MM. She seems to be desperate now with each article.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 21, 2018, 12:09:25 am
I'm curious as to how that date was chosen. Was the wedding supposed to be have been "gotten in" before the Queen's official birthday or something? I don't think Meghan has the influence to choose the date? I am wondering why that date was chosen, could Harry have selected it or some courtier of the Queen? Or couldn't it have been a weekday. Nothing was said about this. Maybe some future book author will have some insights about it. As a related topic, I wonder if couples in the US deliberately choose Super Sunday to get married. Just curious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 21, 2018, 01:08:30 am
^I think that you can if you want to but nobody will want to come to the wedding and if they do they'll hold a grudge for ruining super bowl. Super Bowl Sunday is like Thanksgiving. You don't ruin it for your family and friends. It's good for proposals but not good for wedding day. For example, I love Christmas and for me the "theme" of the wedding for a Christmas wedding comes with the date but again, this day is for the family and not ok for a wedding.

I thought the same about the date. Who picked such a bad date - a double whammy: Anne Boleyn execution and FA cup and in May - the worst month of the year for weddings. Astrologically is almost ok - no major planets in retrograde and the moon is waxing which means the new union is set to be fruitful. However,  the wedding is on a Saturday and Saturday weddings end up in divorce, a bitter one at it, most of the time. I believe they were told to not pick a date during the week so that no bank holiday will be given to the UK people. I'm curious at to why they didn't go for May 26th.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 21, 2018, 01:15:57 am
I guess the Super Bowl could be also a honeymoon site after the wedding for couples who like football.

Charles and Camilla were supposed to marry on a Friday but John Paul II's death forced the postponement to Saturday, as I recall.William and Kate married on a weekday, curious as to why H and M did not marry on a weekday.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: danifaul on January 21, 2018, 02:22:04 am
I think they want a popular wedding, and has to be great / perfect and and people should believe that too.
so nothing better than '' mixing '' with another big event.
who's going to say that people are there just because of the FA cup or or just because of Wedding!?
:sigh: big ego here.
and they did not care with the police (overloaded) and William/event FA.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 21, 2018, 02:45:59 am
Victoria Day 2018 is celebrated on Monday 21st May this year. It's a Federal holiday in six out of the ten Federal provinces and the two Territories of Canada, in honour of Queen Victoria's birthday. As such this makes it a long weekend with no work. Friends of Meghan, such as the cast and crew of Suits do not have to report for work at Toronto, giving them time to fly out in time for the Saturday wedding and back again in time for Tuesday morning.

The British government said very early on when the May date was announced that there would be no public holiday given on the date, so marrying on a Saturday makes sense. Comparitively few members of the public work on Saturdays.

As for not being able to see which members of the public are there for the wedding and which for the FA Cup, that might be likely if the wedding took place in central London. However, Windsor is located out of London and nowhere near where the FA Cup will be played later on the date of the 19th of May. Therefore the crowds and Windsor certainly won't be mistaken for FA Cup crowds, though some may go back to London to watch the football later in the day.

The fact that all the hotels and bed and breakfast places in and near Windsor are  booked for that weekend or shortly will be, therefore has nothing whatsoever to do with the FA Cup. If people are going to go to the Cup they'd book hotels in the part of London that's near Wembley stadium.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 05:17:37 am
I like the nickname MM7 for Meghan because she’s really killing her self to sell this waste of time wedding. She looks manic and stressed out. Her skin looks rough even with all of the makeup trolled on.  Maybe she was up all night at the Soho relaunch in London the night before her red carpet, I mean the Cardiff visit. She didn’t look like a happy camper.
The article’s are getting weird and desperate and quite silly.  :cookie:
WHAT'S SHE GOWN TO WEAR? Why Meghan Markle’s wedding dress will be more Pippa than Kate Middleton
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5390054/meghan-markle-wedding-dress-prediction/

REGAL LOOKS The one big difference between Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton when it comes to posing for photos
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5388457/the-one-big-difference-between-meghan-markle-and-kate-middleton-when-it-comes-to-posing-for-photos/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5293419/Prince-Harry-revealed-fan-recycled-underwear.html
Since he’s more a celebrity than a prince, this drivel is in the tv show business section.  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2018, 05:59:53 am
Harry really has downed himself; talking about his underpants and this is how far he's fallen in the esteem of the media. He's now effectively at a point where he's put in the entertainment section and now the press talks about his underpants as if he's some actor or actress. What a waste he's made of himself; during Invictus he was front page/center and clearly touted as King material, but now this is what he's done to himself.

I think they want a popular wedding, and has to be great / perfect and and people should believe that too.
so nothing better than '' mixing '' with another big event.
who's going to say that people are there just because of the FA cup or or just because of Wedding!?
:sigh: big ego here.
and they did not care with the police (overloaded) and William/event FA.

I think Meg secretly yearns to be an unmarried lady without much of a blemished past; she's desperate to be new again and I'm not talking virginity, I'm talking about a fresh start and she's tried to go to a higher level, minus hard work and honing her craft and even trying to take a risk. She's someone who clearly has serious issues about taking responsibility and making better choices as a result of it. A huge wedding with fawning crowds is her secret dream.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 06:56:02 am
Now that Harry’s officially relegated to the show business section of the press, he should step down from his position and the queen should withdraw Windsor palace location because this isn’t a royal wedding. MM7 is making a fool of herself with leaking dumb articles about wedding preparations for a 2nd wedding. This is as tacky as Kim K’s wedding to her 2nd husband that lasted 70 something days.
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The actress is still way cooler than Kate or Pippa, in a slick, red carpet, Hollywood sort of way that Brits just can’t seem to do.
But her wedding dress is likely to be more Pippa than Kate.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5390054/meghan-markle-wedding-dress-prediciton/
The continuing to insult the British people  :bored: :bat: :-X :nervous:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: camilapitanga on January 21, 2018, 07:11:56 am
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All i said was that racism is a very serious topic and shouldnt be used in vain.Allowing people to talk disrespectfully about it can be understood as telling people it is ok to do such things  bignono

As for the ban no need for it as i rarelly post in her and after the discussions about racism and some posters views on it and how mods deal with the issue i have no intention on discussing here anymore so cancel the account if u can pls  :thankyou:





Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2018, 09:06:01 am
You know, Harry really did take the public for a ride, didn't he? Everyone thought he was something special, but he's just as vapid as his brother.

Now that Harry’s officially relegated to the show business section of the press, he should step down from his position and the queen should withdraw Windsor palace location because this isn’t a royal wedding. MM7 is making a fool of herself with leaking dumb articles about wedding preparations for a 2nd wedding. This is as tacky as Kim K’s wedding to her 2nd husband that lasted 70 something days.
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The actress is still way cooler than Kate or Pippa, in a slick, red carpet, Hollywood sort of way that Brits just can’t seem to do.
But her wedding dress is likely to be more Pippa than Kate.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5390054/meghan-markle-wedding-dress-prediciton/
The continuing to insult the British people  :bored: :bat: :-X :nervous:

I do think that he is finis and won't be able to push the media around demanding privacy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 21, 2018, 01:21:50 pm
Harry and Meghan are hiring! Royals launch search for an 'exceptional' candidate to help with garden parties and overseas tours (and they'll be based in Buckingham Palace)

    Royal family is advertising for a communications assistant on Linkedin
    The 12-month fixed term contract involves producing content for social media
    Salary is not specified but job comes with 'comprehensive' benefits package


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5293883/Royal-family-hiring-communications-assistant.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 21, 2018, 02:05:10 pm
My niece should apply but she would never leave California.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 21, 2018, 02:24:43 pm
Well, who's in London could give it a shot, otherwise I don't recommend moving there, esp not for this bunch of odious spongers, haven't encountered filthier air in my whole life than London "air". :ick: A couple of hours out & about and you can literally wipe the smog off your forehead or cheek and out of your nose. Never experienced that anywhere else. Dread to think what it does to lungs. I think your niece is better off in Cali, lesken, if for nothing else than the air quality and not having to deal with the famously damp English houses ;) :thumbsup:

Bearing this in mind, I am always amazed at super old people who've always lived in London, no idea how they managed to get to their 80s, 90s or even 100. I remember the story of a woman, she lived to be nearly 100 and was supposedly all her life in London, went to the theatre in the West End (so was very fit!) and was then after the show run over by a bus. That this woman, in spite of the dreadful London air, came to that age and was so fit mentally and physically to attend shows and be socially active, wow!  :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 07:00:54 pm
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01.21.2018
 
royal-confessions:

“HM’s team met up with media moguls months ago in order to bring MM down and ruin her reputation, hence the “fleeing” attached to many of these extraordinarily detailed [her fam-member$;)]anti-MM articles. The senior royals want MM to end the engagement herself and leave. Meanwhile, Harry is trying to keep it together but mentally he is standing in the corner, facing the wall, because he can’t cancel the engagement on his own. There are legalities to this once fun and happy relationship.“ - Submitted by Anonymous

yep-true, NYC , WEagency
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At this point, i'd love to believe that this is true, but I'll take it as gossip for now. She's a pain in the neck narc who thinks she deserves to be a princess and live the life of luxury being a wife of a prince. The wedding's shaping up to be a tacky celebrity wedding not a royal one, so she must be going up the all to see that things are going her way.  :cookie:  
MM7 is statying at Soho House in the countryside most likely seething as she reads the comments on articles about her in the press and on the blogs and ranting. She needs to look in the mirror and see that she's looking old and haggard and realize that continuing on this game will only end up in tears for her.  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2018, 07:27:29 pm
She's never going to leave him.


Us Weekly: Is Meghan Markle vetoing Harry’s exes from the wedding guest list?

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Whether Harry’s exes will be invited: “Both [Meghan & Harry] will be going through the list carefully. Don’t expect to see Cressida Bonas invited —the two didn’t remain friends— but do not be surprised if Chelsy [Davy] shows up with a date. The two have remained friends long after ending their relationship and still keep in touch to this day,” a source told Us. “She congratulated him the minute the engagement news was announced. Meghan would have no problem with her being there and Chelsy was on the preliminary list of friends to invite.”

http://www.celebitchy.com/563186/us_weekly_is_meghan_markle_vetoing_harrys_exes_from_the_wedding_guest_list/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 21, 2018, 08:32:58 pm
Don't underestimate her ego. At this time, I agree she is not going to leave. She will dig in until she is secure in her place after the wedding. Then when she weaves her personal empire in Hollyweird complete with a settlement, her title, and business enterprises in place, then she will feel suffocated and leave. Harry will be cheating by then.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 08:34:39 pm
^^I blieve she'll have no choir. Either her or her supporters went crazy over the blinds at CDN that said that there arer nudes of her. The minute those nudes get released, it's finito for this cow. The dumb thing is that the most importnt one in this relationship's Harry. harry's image's getting bashed right and centre not only with the British people but others in the Commonwealth. What does she think will happen now that people aren't keen on Harry any longer? It's in her best interest to drop this nonsense and go back to the States before the press or "the men in grey" as Diana used to say bring out the big guns.  
^she wont get that far.  :cookie:  All this talk about wedding preparations but none of her visa to alow her to live in the UK and none of her converting to the CofE. All I see is mndless articles that are just ticking the UK people off; the same people  she expects to be watching the wedding and going out to see her on public engagements.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 21, 2018, 09:18:00 pm
 I agree that Meggles' is such a fame, um, seeker, that she will hang on to this princess dream with all fours and her teeth.   It will take something really big from her past or a threat of some kind of the monarchy minders to get her to unclench her fingers from that dream.

However, I think that Harry will begin to see a different side of his fiancee as tensions are bound to increase as the wedding date approaches.   He will look even more miserable than he has thus far.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 21, 2018, 10:33:20 pm
Harry is a willing participant. Nobody IMO forced him to propose.She could see Harry differently too. IT goes both ways in a relationship IMO. After the wedding they will see a lot of things differently. The real work begins.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 21, 2018, 10:47:14 pm
^ I think with Harry, what you see is what you get.   Meggles is playing a part.   There's more to uncover about the true Meg than the true Harry who has been written about and followed since his birth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 21, 2018, 11:06:18 pm
^true, except whenever he's with her he has to act like he likes her. Look at how he's always comforting himself wth putting his hand on his chest or belly. He's never done that with anoy other woman he' been seen with sucha as his past grfriends or public figures like Mrs Trump or Michelle Obama.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle WON'T invite 'good friend' Obama to the royal wedding in a bid to avoid a 'diplomatic row' over snub to Donald Trump
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The forthcoming royal wedding between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle was branded a 'diplomatic timebomb' if Barack Obama was invited, but not Donald Trump.
And now, courtiers are doing their best to defuse the explosive.
I hear that Prince Harry, who counts Obama as a friend, won't ask the former Democrat U.S. President to his nuptials at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, on May 19.
'President Trump will not be invited because the wedding will be for friends and family only,' a source tells me.
No doubt, Meghan will have her own views. The U.S. former actress previously described Trump as 'misogynistic' and 'divisive'.
A spokesman for Kensington Palace tells me: 'At this stage, we are not commenting on aspects of the wedding.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5295379/Obama-isnt-going-Harry-Meghans-wedding.html#ixzz54rXlHm76
She's dumped most of her family and seems only to be in contact with her mum and Harry's family's over the moon about her and his friends seem to be MIA, so who will attend this wedding?
MM7 isn't smart because although she'll hang on tooth and nail to Harry and her dream of being a princess, she's chasing an empty dream. She's nothing without Harry and he eems to be distancing himself from her by giving her a junior member of staff to assist her and buffer her from the main staff that support him. IMO, he "proposed" to her to expose her to the world as to how a pain she is as she believes she's a big celebrity with adoring fans and she'll be good for Harry and the monarchy. She can no longer say that she's a private American citizen who should't be subjected to scrutiny. She should get lost now before the nudes get relaeased and they will especially if by a very remote chance there is a wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 22, 2018, 12:23:21 am
I think they'll get married. Harry isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, he probably doesn't even realize how unsuitable Meghan is, and really does love her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 03:26:52 am
Meghan Markle's hen do: Party plans REVEALED as wedding to Prince Harry edges closer
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"Her best friends Markus Anderson, Lindsay Jill Roth and Jessica Mulroney will be taking top seats at the table."

Mr Anderson, who works for private members' club Soho House, is rumoured to have set up Prince Harry and Ms Markle on a blind date in 2016.

Ms Roth is a television producer and author, while Mrs Mulroney is a fashion stylist.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/907891/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-royal-wedding-hen-do-party-Windsor-Castle-bachelorette
I can only hope that the squeeze is in and the press is ready to unleash.
^Thank goodness it’s not that easy for Harry to marry. Per the marriage act, the 6 people in line to the throne has to get official approval from the privy council. That hasn’t happened yet. I doubt if it will because this is more of a celebrity wedding than a royal one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 22, 2018, 03:53:54 am
The Privy Council consent is a formality.

There would only be five or six members there plus the Queen. Most meetings last no more than half an hour and all they do is read the name of legislation to which HM gives her consent and that is all that will happen here.

It is HM giving consent at the Privy Council - not the Privy Council actually giving consent.

HM has already given the consent informally and publicly shown that consent by having Meghan attend the Christmas service. There is no reason why HM won't give consent. Consent would be withheld if there was a major criminal background or this would be a bigamous marriage - but otherwise there is no reason to refuse it. If there was a reason to deny consent then Harry would not be allowed to take Meghan on engagements and her name would no be appearing in the Future Engagements for Harry although she isn't in the CC when it comes out after the events have happened.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 22, 2018, 04:54:25 am
Harry doesn't have a Machiavelli plan to basically throw Meg out; he's far too stupid and blind. He's shown that time and time again; he'll marry her come anything and he'll get it because HM and Charles never raised him to respect them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 22, 2018, 06:28:58 am
For MM who has no acting talent and no job prospects PH is her meal ticket for life and she'll milk it over and over again. It's not about suitability with her, it's about real motives for being so desperate to marry PH. She will never ever backtrack from her cash cow. If PH can't see it, well, he can't claim the Diana card for sympathy when things go south. The situation and the players are as clear as day and if he can't see it - it's on him. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 11:37:22 am
She had enough acting talent to be in a TV series.It was not as if she never worked as an actress.

Harry has motives for marrying too, he's not some object, he's a grown up and in his thirties. The relationship went along with his full participation in it.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 12:25:58 pm
I don’t see it so cut and dry that others here do; that Harry’s hard set to marry this aged trollop. She’s a nasty grasping desperate thing with a nasty past that will come out fully to bite her. Her nudes are the killer of her dreams. The press had an article about the website that CDN being credible and that site says that she has nude pictures. They should just be released now as this circus has ticked people off.
I just read that Eugene and her boyfriend are engaged. That’s a nice couple, at least they don’t have the element of sleeziness around them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 12:40:59 pm
36 is not 'aged'. . WOmen her age have babies. She's not 76.

I think the royals would have found  nude pictures by now. People are greedy and would have tried to peddle the photos by now  for megabucks and win the "lottery" so to speak.

I think Meghan was inspected with a fine tooth comb by royal detectives.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 02:01:30 pm
It's a question of timing and strategy when the rest of her dirt will be released. I'm not a fan of Eugenie but at least we'll get a nice royal wedding at Windsor Castle. Just comparing the announcements and the official engagement pictures, the difference is so evident. It's going to be fun to read about Eugenie's edding preparations, the little that will be released that is.  :cookie:
MM7 isn't old by regular standards, but for what she is, a golddigger on the make, she's old and used up. What's a shame with her is that she'd built up a decent life for herself before she over reached with Harry. For those who believe that they'll marry, what's the point of it if Harry's reputations ruined and people are disgusted at the time money and resources wasted on a marriage that'll end in divorce. This is a celebrity wedding unlike Eugenie's which will be a royal one. Eugenie's news should now put MM7 in the shade. I'm sure the press will be rubbing in the difference between the two couple's engagement and wedding preparations.  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 02:08:46 pm
I don't think there will be as much interest in Eugenie as there will be for Harry. But there will be some "fun" logistics with Fergie and the royals. But this should be for a Eugenie thread. They most likely will "space" the weddings so the immediate preparations will be months later for the other couple.

Nobody is used up at 36. Some say life begins at 40 and so on.

Harry is a willing participant in all this and was not forced to be with her. He has a will of his own as they both do. And both are over 30.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 02:13:34 pm
I agree to disagree. Sometimes things don't look as they seem. It's Harry's "funeral" if he wants this kind of a wife. Personally i don't see him hell bent on ruining himself with this broad. Anyway, it's not worth the time to "argue" about on my part.  :flower:  I applaud the timing of the other couple's news.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 02:14:51 pm
It's on him too, he made up his mind to do the proposing and so forth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 22, 2018, 02:24:39 pm
^ I question how willingly Harry went into this situation considering how miserable he has looked in Meggles' presence from the beginning.  Not that I'm saying anyone has held a gun to his head, but this relationship is quite odd.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 22, 2018, 02:28:26 pm
^Now that the trigger has been pulled, I think some of the euphoria is wearing off.  That’s normal.  What isn’t normal is to allow yourself to get swept up so fast, without solid, lengthy time together, and this far down the aisle if your head’s on straight.

Her age matters in show business.  A lot.  She’s no Dame Mirren.  It’s also tick tock tick for becoming a mother a couple of times so this is the next step for her and well planned.  What, exactly, was her other plan?  Suits wasn’t going to last forever.  Oh, that’s right, she could’ve run for President.   :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 02:39:34 pm
Older actresses tend to play "character" roles. And some become matriarch types on soap operas after beginning on the soap as an ingenue. So many case histories of this. Meghan could have "aged out" on a daytime drama.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 22, 2018, 02:45:27 pm
^^^^ He is in it for the aftermath of his airhead decision whether he likes it or not. However, I wouldn't put it past MM to have manipulated yhe situation so thay he feels he has to propose and that this is the best decision "he" has ever made. I do know a couple of people who are in "what was I thinking" kind of situation now.

^Yes, that's the obvious next step but you need talent for that.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 03:36:00 pm
^very true. You can see how old she is without the lighting filters and tv lighting. She's too old for the hot sexy girl roles and quite agree that she's a subpar actress.
One thing I see with this sick union is that the Cambs and now even the Yorks have been a bit rehabilitated as being seen a traditional royal as opposed to Hollywood Harry and MM7. MM7 will be pushed back out of the spotlight because of a real princess getting engaged and the Cambs tour next week. Her acting career's finished as well as her humanitarian and sponsorship. She's ruined period.
This guy's a producer and writer in Hollywood. He's totally making fn off MM7. Funny because it looks like George's leveling his distaste towards her and the whole affair.  :tehe:
https://www.instagram.com/garyjanetti/?hl=en



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 22, 2018, 03:44:46 pm
 mm won't like having competition of another wedding of a true princess the same year. GOOD.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 03:55:55 pm
I don't think Harry's wedding will match the intrigue of the York wedding but I think his will get more viewers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 04:11:56 pm
Harry's wedding should've been the highlight of the year if the bride was suitable.
http://observer.com/2018/01/meghan-markle-messy-bun-signature-royal-style/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 22, 2018, 04:19:05 pm
36 is not 'aged'. . WOmen her age have babies. She's not 76.

I think the royals would have found  nude pictures by now. People are greedy and would have tried to peddle the photos by now  for megabucks and win the "lottery" so to speak.

I think Meghan was inspected with a fine tooth comb by royal detectives.

I doubt the RF would have stopped Harry from marrying Markle if they'd found nudes. Kate has been flashing her bum/crotch/breasts with some regularity since becoming the duchess and she was allowed to get away with that for years. If they'd said no, realistically Harry probably would've thrown a tantrum and threatened to quit the RF, thus massively undermining HM and especially Charles, the future King.

I think Harry is in love with Meghan but I think he's been seduced by the excitement of an American activity TV star type, and he's failed to see reality.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 22, 2018, 04:47:20 pm
^ They just don't have the moral ground to forbid H to marry basically anyone if we're honest. I'd flip a lid too if my family were to forbid me whatever and looking at them they've done all the same and worse and continue to do so. When you forbid someone something, you absolutely must be on the higher moral ground, otherwise it's a farce. With Camz and Waity in.. And what Chuck, Andy et al have done over the years....  :nervous: :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 22, 2018, 05:13:43 pm
^very true. You can see how old she is without the lighting filters and tv lighting. She's too old for the hot sexy girl roles and quite agree that she's a subpar actress.
One thing I see with this sick union is that the Cambs and now even the Yorks have been a bit rehabilitated as being seen a traditional royal as opposed to Hollywood Harry and MM7. MM7 will be pushed back out of the spotlight because of a real princess getting engaged and the Cambs tour next week. Her acting career's finished as well as her humanitarian and sponsorship. She's ruined period.
This guy's a producer and writer in Hollywood. He's totally making fn off MM7. Funny because it looks like George's leveling his distaste towards her and the whole affair.  :tehe:
https://www.instagram.com/garyjanetti/?hl=en

This one was hilarious . . .

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdQXZ3qhI69/?hl=en&taken-by=garyjanetti


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 05:21:18 pm
Why Princess Eugenie's wedding could be extremely awkward for Meghan Markle
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/princess-eugenies-wedding-could-extremely-11894502?service=responsive
It's hard to believe how yung Harry looked 4 years ago. IMO, he started to aged when MM7 became known as his "girlfriend" after the statement came out. This scubas sucked the life out of the poor man. I don't see her going on another waste of time public engagement for a photo op now that she's been trumped by a real princess. Hopefully her time's up because she "hung" herself with all of her Hollywood bs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 22, 2018, 05:55:23 pm
I'd say the chances of Cressida B being in the wedding party for Eugenie's wedding are practically zero. Too many other options IMO, and even if she's a guest she and Harry and Meghan will be cordial. Cresdida and Harry followed each other on IG for months after the breakup, so it won't be awkward at all. What are the tabs hoping for, a scrag fight in Windsor Castle, lol.

Harry put on years when he grew a beard and that was years ago in the Cressida years. It's well known that bearded men look older than their age.  Losing a bit of hair hasn't helped, either. Harry doesn't look stressed out at all since this engagement IMO. There are tons of photos of him with Meghan looking alert, happy, engaged, giving her loving looks, saying to the kids in Wales who were hugging her 'Release! She's mine!' Sorry, but there's absolutely no evidence that he's an unhappy man and plenty to show he's in love.

There's no way that Harry's wedding is going to be trumped in any way by Eugenie's (to whom I wish all the best, by the way.) The Press will be there, but Eugenie's wedding won't be televised, nor is there likely to be a carriage ride through Windsor.

Also, Eugenie might be a 'real princess' but the Yorks (Andy and Fergie) are as popular as mud in Britain and their reputation has unfortunately tainted their girls. The tabloids lose no opportunity to point out Beatrice's non career, and what they call the York princesses party lifestyle. Both girls have extremely low approval ratings in polls over the last decade and they aren't working or senior royals. IMO the public are likely to wish the 'real Princess' Eugenie good luck with her future life and that will be it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 05:57:31 pm
It should not be awkward even if she is a bridesmaid, Cressida and Harry were history some years before. Exes do go to royal weddings and there are examples I will not mention here.

Harry is not passive, he made his choice of his own free will.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 22, 2018, 06:17:00 pm
Please keep this thread on Harry engagement. Thank you


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 22, 2018, 06:34:23 pm
Yes it will be awkward. Eugenie's ring is better than hers, Eugenie's engagement announcement and photo are better than hers, Eugenie's announcement is from The Queen's twitter, hers is from her fiance's twitter, if Cressida is a bridesmaid which I think she will be, she'll be more important than her during that wedding where there'll be Kate more important than her, Cressida more important than her, if Eugenie or her bridesmaids wear Aya jewelry, like Eugenie did on the christmas luncheon, then even Chelsy is more important than MM.

I can't imagine why the H&M twitter has not congratulated the happy couple. Especially that now MM has even real competition for the wedding dress and she can't copy Eugenie because her wedding is before Eugenie's. Kudos to BP and the queen. Perfect, perfect timing. The tumblr sites were expecting a big announcement on 15 to 19th. And here we go.  :flower:

Gosh, a scag fight - I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 06:55:50 pm
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Sandy, New York City, United States, less than a minute ago
Why is it assumed that "everybody" dislikes Meghan. Meghan's negative publicity is generated by the same group who thought she did not really date Harry and her photos were airbrushed. And I find it hilarious that all this praise from Meghan bashers goes to the York girls when they were derided by the same people for years for being lazy.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5298961/Princess-Eugenie-tells-complete-surprise.html#ixzz54wOikr7x
I wonder if this is the same Sandy that defends MM7 here.  :cookie: MM7 s all about the celebrity life that inludes self promotion. Look at how she thinks she more important than Harry when they're in public together. She's a danger to the image of the royal family. Eugenie has her faults but I don't believe that she's ever been seen as a danger to her family and an insult to the British people.
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Chri44, Surrey, United Kingdom, moments ago
I can hear it now , disillusioned Andrew thinking his daughter (s) is loved by the GBP , and Meghan and Harry are hated ( if he reads these comments ) and using it as leverage to get his daughters involved in the ¿firm ¿ .
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5298961/Princess-Eugenie-tells-complete-surprise.html#ixzz54wQS8RnS
Good comment except that Andrew knows that MM7 isn't liked and it's not by reading the comments in the DM. This does bring up the topic of a reduced working royal. MM7 is a spender and her fake persona but very rude and pushy behavior is very off putting, so how can she be good for inclusion into the slimmed down monarchy. That and other reasons are why I still believe that they'll be no wedding between Harry and her; that Harry's been playing a role and it kicked into high gear because of her IG appearance at the opening that showed her complete lack of care and her selfishness. Time to really get rid of old rubbish and her nasty past behvior should finalyy get released. She's attacking the blogs and the blinds for a reason.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 22, 2018, 07:03:21 pm
Could be and it's true. I'm happy for Eug, even though I'm not a fan of her and her engagement dress is a bit too dark for my taste but she was very genuine, she almost cried in this short video, she was elegant and the story of the ring is romantic and homey.

There's no fakeness, there's no tackiness, there's no over the top inappropriateness. I like Eug for being a really happy, blushing bride-to-be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 22, 2018, 07:11:34 pm
^ Yes!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Megs got a beautiful engagement ring though too, the only thing she's got so far going for her imo. The rest was very hit-and-miss.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 22, 2018, 07:13:25 pm
^^ With the rings, it depends on what you call 'better'. Eugenie's ring is very pretty but has been priced by jewellers in the past few hours as worth 'a modest £7,000', while Meghan's was valued at the time of the engagement at over £122,000 by Grant Mobley, Director at Plyczeniak, one of the world's leading diamond dealers.

Prince Andrew's engagements, announcements on Twitter and to the media etc are handled by BP, as are Anne's, the Wessexes, the Kents and the Gloucesters.

The only people who have separate offices in the BRF are the Prince of Wales, who handles his family's announcements, (and did so for the betrothals of both his sons) at Clarence House, and William and Harry. They and Kate have their own Press Office at KP, which is why the Twitter came from there about Harry's engagement. The fact of the announcement coming from BP for Eugenie's engagement highlight's Andrew's minor status as a Royal, in fact, not the reverse. It has nothing to do with the importance of Eugenie.

At every wedding the bride is the main figure and the most important, along with the groom of course. I seriously doubt that Meghan and Eugenie consider themselves in some sort of competition for their nuptials or their wedding dresses!

Moreover, in what universe will Meghan, who will be an HRH Princess Harry and likely the Duchess of Sussex when she goes to Eugenie's wedding in the autumn, be of less 'importance' than Miss Cressida Bonas, who may or may not be in the bridal party? And why should the wearing of Chelsy Davy's jewellery at that wedding diminish Meghan? Cressida's not a Royal. Chelsy's not a married-in Royal either, but one of Harry's exes, still friendly with him and IMO will probably be a guest at his wedding.

 However, in 2018 Chelsy is a half-forgotten socialite who dabbles with a jewellery line. I seriously doubt that Meghan will be worried at all about Chelsy or Cressida B. Anyway, I think Cressida is unlikely to be a bridesmaid for Eugenie, who has her sister and much closer friends to choose from and may well have all child attendants as is the custom in the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 22, 2018, 07:15:15 pm
Where will they live after the wedding? KP? Or another residence?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 07:15:46 pm
^very true.
Everything with Harry and MM7 is a secrete. Why's is that if they're supposed to be a couple? Why would there be a need to keep her hdden away like a nasty shameful secrete. The whole business is nauseating. Even now with their so called engagement, she's still being hidden away. Why again should be the question. All i see are pr games being played, not a true genuine couple about to get married. I've to laugh at her being called a private person who doesn't go out or bring attention to herself.  :tehe: 
Prince Harry SECRETLY introduces Meghan Markle to ‘very significant person’ in his life
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/907978/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Tiggy-Legge-Bourke-Cardiff-Royal-Family-The-Queen



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 22, 2018, 07:21:42 pm
@ windsor2   why do you call her MM7?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 22, 2018, 07:23:07 pm
Yeah but Meg's ring is also only valued so high because two of the three diamonds were once Diana's. Same reason why Kate's Diana's is valued so highly.

And it's questionable they got the price for Eug's ring right. It looks quite big, a padparadscha sapphire can cost easily a fortune (yeah the jeweller thinks it was heat treated, hence not quite as valuable as an untreated one) and the diamonds alone in the ring could cost more than 7000. Don't know how much money Jack's got, or his family, could be that was "the best he could afford" (fine enough for anyone really, hardly a shame), but I have a suspicion that the ring cost more than that.

The values are only based on an imaginary market with fantasy pricing anyway and as I said M's & K's rings are only so expensive because of the heavy Diana links.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 07:28:15 pm
^^I can't take credit for coming up with that for her, but it fits because her greed and ambition has killed everything she had built up prior to Harry. She's killed friendships, family relationships and Harry's image since being linked to him. The MM7 is a take on James Bond's 007 license to kill.  :cookie:
The DM and other press outlets are going heavy with the comparrisons between MM7 celebrity/Hollywood engagement to Eugenie's royal one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 22, 2018, 07:32:02 pm
^ And they should. Eug's ring is spectacular, while MM's is blah.
^^^^^^ If you pay attention, in every article about MM there's a comparison with someone else in attempt to elevate MM's imaginary virtues or status. Just in the one which windsor2 posted there's a comparison about MM and Kate - how MM is shaking hands like QE, even giving autographs, while Kate is holding a clutch with both hands to not shake anyone's hand. Snubbing much.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 22, 2018, 07:39:24 pm
^^  :thumbsup: 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 22, 2018, 07:41:06 pm
MM does not having the breeding to be a royal which is why her engagement is not being handled in the royal, tasteful manner like Eugenie's. MM is a second timer down the isle, Eugene is a more true traditional bride as she and her fiancee are the first spouses and I bet only for each other.
A prince father walking his princess daughter down the isle is far more fetching than Markles "in hiding" dad she never sees. Her ex should really walk her down.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 22, 2018, 08:35:45 pm
^Maybe Markus will do it.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 22, 2018, 09:01:28 pm
Crack me up . I meant aisle not isle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 22, 2018, 09:14:10 pm
 :sly:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 22, 2018, 09:33:56 pm
Will Meghan Markle meet Cressida Bonas at Eugenie's wedding? Prince Harry's ex-girlfriend is expected to attend the autumn ceremony
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5299355/Will-Meghan-meet-Cressida-Bonas-Eugenies-wedding.html#ixzz54x3R5MK6
No she won't.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 23, 2018, 12:07:39 am
All I can say is "oh the drama." But I don't think there will be any confrontations between Meghan and Cressida.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 23, 2018, 12:40:20 am
IMO, it doesn't matter what she does, she's competing in a sense with a real live blood princess of the realm, one that she'd have to curtsy to when she's not with Harry. I hope Eugenie gets to use Frogmore House for the reception and has a carriage ride too. MM7 looks quite stupid now because she's a 2nd time bride acting like this will be her first time at marriage. She's now seen as an aging former actress who can't give up the spotlight and anything she'll do from now on will be seen as a desperate move against a younger, first time engaged royal member of the monarchy. No matter what happens, she's going to be a laughing stock.
https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
The KP account hasn't been updated since 18 January. I wonder if it's being revamped. It's odd that there's no congratulations to the newly engaged couple.
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Indeed, so close are he and his fiancee Eugenie to her cousin Harry that the pair of them flew out to Toronto at the end of 2016 to celebrate the Prince's relationship with Meghan Markle.
The foursome danced the night away at Soho House, a private members' club in the Canadian city which Los Angeles-born Meghan made her home.
Not long before, both couples had enjoyed another private rendezvous, this time in London, where they went out on a double dinner date. Since Prince Harry lost his big brother William to domestic bliss, Eugenie and Jack have become his go-to playmates.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5299931/Princess-Eugenies-fiance-bit-posh-is.html#ixzz54xpqqWOP
I've read somewhere that Eugenie's never met MM.  ??? :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 23, 2018, 12:52:51 am
They are all marrying older now, none of them are "kids." Which could be a good thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 23, 2018, 01:17:11 am
^^Yeah, I'm not believing the Eugenie/MM dancing the night away story either. No way if they were all buddy buddy she wouldn't have found a way to use it to her advantage in the press long ago.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 23, 2018, 02:00:52 am
^Who knows but I don’t believe Sparkles would’ve let that coattail empty. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 23, 2018, 03:15:23 pm
That story has to be false because in 2016 they had just met that summer so there wouldn't be enough time for Harry to be celebrating with Eugene. Eugene has been in America so she may like Americans and not mine Meghan Markle I know she didn't like Kate too much at least from what I've read.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 23, 2018, 06:48:57 pm
I must say that it’s refreshing not seeing her smug mug along with her dumb pr articles in the DM today. Rumor has it that MM is back in America. I hope it’s true and this celebrity engagement’s broken this week. I say that because Eugenie’s engagement has knocked her from the news and the Cambridge’s tour starts next week. Since that tour’s requested by the Foreign Office, that’s the main thing that the press and the royals should be concentrating on. There should be no news about or from the narc MM trying to overshadow or compete with the tour.
Since this “engagement”, we have the Cambridge’s and now the York’s fromt and centre which in this case I really don’t mind. Let the silly celebrity scarf off back to the States with her gener equally and “Harry’s a feminist” crap. Whatever’ she’ll do from now on will pale in comparison to a real princess getting married and knows what real royal life’s about and most of all let’s the man be the man and doesn’t belittle him like she does Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 23, 2018, 08:31:40 pm
I hope there is some coverage of the Wessexes visit to Sri Lanka next week, as the official representatives of The Queen at the 70th anniversary of independence celebrations along with some coverage of the Cambridge's visit but I suspect it will be wall to wall Cambridge's and Sri Lanka will be ignored - just as Anne's visit to South Korea in early Feb will also be ignored by the media.

I do think we will have about two weeks before Meghan and Harry are front and centre again as I am sure they are working on another away day to sell Meghan to the British public.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 24, 2018, 03:31:59 pm
Countdown to the Royal Wedding: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Secret Matchmaker Finally Revealed | E! News

She's the best friend anyone would wish for—the mystery matchmaker who set Meghan Markle up on the ultimate blind date with a real-life prince.

Her identity has remained a secret ever since Meghan and Harry admitted their first meeting in 2016 was not by chance, but rather thanks to a mutual friend who played cupid.

In their first joint interview together that aired directly following their engagement announcement, Harry admitted: "We were introduced by a secret friend, who we will protect her privacy."

The exact identity of the newly engaged couple's pal has led to feverish speculation. Many have presumed it is Meghan's best friend, stylist Jessica Mulroney (who works with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's wife, Sophie, as well as many other clients in high places). Others have suspected fashion designer Misha Nonoo, who used to be married to one of Harry's best friends. Another obvious frontrunner has been Markus Anderson, the mate who accompanied Meghan and Harry during one of their first official outings at the Invictus Games last September.



Now E! News can confirm for the first time that the real heroine of this love story is actually Harry's childhood friend Violet von Westenholz. Her dad is a baron and very close to Prince Charles and she's been in Harry's trusted inner circle of friends for years. Her younger sister, Victoria, was once even touted as a possible girlfriend for Harry among the society elite in London, but Violet had become a confidante for Harry when it came to matters of the heart.

"Harry was having a really hard time finding anyone," admits our well-placed source. "It's hard enough finding someone new to date. He can hardly go on Tinder or a dating app like normal people, but to meet someone that you actually connect with, that was proving to be almost impossible.

"It was something he had confided in his closest friends about; he was ready to meet someone but it was so hard to actually find the right person."

That is until Violet and Meghan's paths crossed. The girls became friends through Violet's PR work with the fashion house Ralph Lauren. Our source explains, "Meghan had been a part of the London social scene for a while and had slotted into the high society set really easily. And so when Harry told Violet he was having trouble finding someone, Violet said she might just have the perfect girl for him."

The rest, as they say, is history. (And expect to see this ripped-from-a-rom-com blind date played out if they get around to making season 7 of The Crown!)

Their first date in early summer 2016 was something Meghan recounted in the couple's engagement interview. "It was definitely a set-up. It was a blind date. I didn't know much about him and so the only thing I had asked her when she said she wanted to set us up was, I had one question, I said 'Was he nice?'"

Harry added, "I'd never, never even heard about her until this friend said 'Meghan Markle.' I was like, 'Right okay, give me, give me a bit of background, like what's going on here?' When I walked into that room and saw her and there she was sitting there, I was like 'Okay, well I'm going to have to really up my game here.'"

Violet's instinct, of course, was spot on. As we now know, the pair immediately clicked and after two London dates they jetted off to Botswana for a magical week-long vacation under the African stars.

"Even with Chelsy [Davy], Harry didn't feel this kind of spark. And they were together for years! Harry just knew immediately, from the moment he spent time with Meghan, that he wanted to be with her. It's a simple case of meeting the right girl at the right time."

Violet has not yet returned E! News' request for comment.

http://www.eonline.com/news/908595/countdown-to-the-royal-wedding-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-s-secret-matchmaker-finally-revealed


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 24, 2018, 04:37:47 pm
^Oy. So can we expect Violet von Westenholz to be a bridesmaid or bridal attendant?  :tehe:

Do you think Violet told Meghan that she would be meeting a guy named "Harry" or "Prince Harry?"  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 24, 2018, 04:53:24 pm
 Meggles was part of the London social set???   When/how did that happen?

And Harry didn't feel that kind of spark with Chelsy?   C'mon now!   There is photographic evidence of the way Harry looked at Chelsy versus how he doesn't even look at Meggles!!

Tell us another one!!    :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 24, 2018, 05:14:15 pm
^No kidding.  I’m so tired of feeling pimped by these two.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on January 24, 2018, 05:21:23 pm
^ It becomes clearer every day that Meggles is so delusional that she believes she can "create" the life she envisions for herself.   That she can make the public buy into to whatever she puts out there.   She's nuts.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 25, 2018, 02:04:18 am
Cupid, unmasked! Baron's daughter and long-time friend of Prince Harry is 'confirmed as the matchmaker' who first set him up with Meghan Markle
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According to the Telegraph, Miss von Westenholz refused to take all the credit for bringing the pair together, with rumblings that other mutual friends played their part.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5309313/Violet-von-Westenholz-introduced-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html
Smart lady to distance herself from this mess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 25, 2018, 03:47:02 pm
I have to say if it is true that this was several mutual friends putting them together, there must be a reason they did it. Either MM was campaigning for a set up which I believe could be very true (despite her feigning ignorance of PH existence prior to their dating) or on their own, mutual friends thought it was a match. So IMO Harry was a difficult man for many women or he would not have complained to his friends about being lonely and wanting a mate as I read. I mean come on, he shouldn't have a problem meeting women being who he is. He did a good job in Vegas and in CA when he was training. He was chatting up a waitress as I remember in San Diego. And after Vegas in Venice CA parking lots, he was hugging and kissing a couple of blonde women goodbye. He knows women.  So there must be issues over and above the Royal attention and protocol that causes problems for him. Maybe MM is good for him if his friends thought so. I don't know what his non mutual friends think. But I don't know the real PH so who am I to judge.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 26, 2018, 03:01:24 am
^ It becomes clearer every day that Meggles is so delusional that she believes she can "create" the life she envisions for herself.   That she can make the public buy into to whatever she puts out there.   She's nuts.


Nuttier than Waity and that's hard to imagine.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 26, 2018, 06:12:48 am
^^I'm just curious, if the press dig enough will there be an MM PI with file on who's who in PH's life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 26, 2018, 06:18:38 am
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Already Have a Signature Pose - and It's Royally Adorable
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-already-have-a-signature-pose-and-its-royally-adorable/ss-AAvb4eT?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Grey Mare on January 26, 2018, 05:20:05 pm
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"Harry was having a really hard time finding anyone," admits our well-placed source. "It's hard enough finding someone new to date. He can hardly go on Tinder or a dating app like normal people, but to meet someone that you actually connect with, that was proving to be almost impossible.

So, basically...

Harry only dated Meghan and asked her to marry him because he could not find anyone else, so he feels as though he has to settle.  Wow...  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on January 26, 2018, 05:44:19 pm
Why does she act like a kid in front of crowds??

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ebebee4b8282162744fffa4fa576064c/tumblr_p2aq9bzRZ71vkr48xo3_400.gif


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 26, 2018, 06:05:17 pm
Immitates shy Diana. She's been practicing the shy Diana look her whole life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 26, 2018, 08:13:14 pm
^ Feel the same, imo she's trying out her "shy Di look", seems 100% like it; like Kate used to at the beginning, too. I think Kate's stopped that a long time ago, she always looked creepy, old and haggard. Murkles isn't coming off any better with her bs impersonation, hopefully she drops this shyte soon.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 26, 2018, 08:59:06 pm
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"Harry was having a really hard time finding anyone," admits our well-placed source. "It's hard enough finding someone new to date. He can hardly go on Tinder or a dating app like normal people, but to meet someone that you actually connect with, that was proving to be almost impossible.

So, basically...

Harry only dated Meghan and asked her to marry him because he could not find anyone else, so he feels as though he has to settle.  Wow...  :laugh:

Who is the 'well-placed source'? One of the Kitchen staff at BP? More likely a made up 'source' via the imagination of the writer of the article!

 As a follower of Harry I read that sort of thing for years in the DM and other tabloids as he reached thirty. (It was mostly the Fail.) Harry has had two long standing relationships before Meghan. Chelsy was free spirited, liked going back to Africa whenever she wanted, couldn't stand the idea of Royal life. She and Harry were very young when she started the romance, which was turbulent for years anyway.

Cressida Bonas dated Harry for two years but according to her mum's best friend Ingrid Sewell, (the editor of the glossy mag 'Majesty') Cressida couldn't stand walking about London streets and having people comment in her hearing on her hair, shoes, clothes etc. She just couldn't hack it.

It's not that Harry can't get a girlfriend. That's plainly ridiculous. He's shown tons of times over the years that he has had brief relationships and flirtations.

It is getting someone who he loves and wants to marry and who loves and wants to marry him, someone who is also prepared to run the barrage of practically 24/7 publicity as well as fit into Royal life and the BRF, that is the difficult part.

Kate is an exception. She was prepared to hang around, prepared to put up with the publicity, and the two of them had privacy in their Uni years. Harry and Chelsy for instance never had that.

Harry is a high profile man, the British tabs and Twitter love him, he has international recognition and practically everything he does and says is commented on, and has been for years. The woman that he marries will have to face that barrage. Every article of clothing and accessories dissected online and in the Press, every remark, every facial expression, every hairstyle discussed and all of it torn to pieces sometimes in the tabloid Press and online in forums, Twitter, Tumblr.

Would any of us like that sort of life in spite of the enormous privileges? I sure as heck wouldn't. I like dressing as I please, going where I please, acting silly in public on occasions. That doesn't happen for full time royals or their longtime significant others. That's why someone has to be found who they can not only love and live with but who knows that for the rest of their lives there will be virtually no private time to be had without being photographed by someone.

Harry has found Meghan. I know people on the forum dislike her and mistrust her motives. However, I don't believe that Harry felt he had to settle. I believe they are both in love and that Meghan is prepared to live in another country, join the BRF (itself can be an ordeal as Diana and Sarah found) and is OK with publicity because of her previous career.

She's received a lot of hatred online and I guess I may be found to be wrong about her, but I wish them well, and I hope Meghan is happy in the BRF and they have a long contented marriage with children. As I've said, marrying a high profile prince means giving up many things as well as gaining other things. Time will tell, I guess, but I don't think Harry 'had to settle'.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 26, 2018, 09:58:45 pm
Prince Harry abandoned Meghan… to play with rhinos in Botswana for a few days

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Bellagio DuPont says:   
January 26, 2018 at 10:00 am   

@ Mostly Meghan:

There once was a duchess of Sussex,
Who caught her Prince with a love hex,
She had so many tricks,
She outwitted the poor d*ck
And now she swims in big, fat cheques

http://www.celebitchy.com/564439/prince_harry_abandoned_meghan_to_play_with_rhinos_in_botswana_for_a_few_days/#comments


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 26, 2018, 10:12:33 pm
Celebitchy knows as much about Royal engagements and how they are run than I do about playing poker or sky diving, that is, precisely nothing! As for the doggerel, don't give up your day job, Bellagio. You're not likely to make Poet Laureate any time soon.

Re the 'playing with rhinos' stupidity, engagements for Harry have been posted in the print CC of 26th Jan. He met with the appropriate local politician in Botswana and then visited the HQs in Botswana and in South Africa that are connected with his two fairly recent African patronages, Save the Rhinos and National Parks Africa. No sign of 'playing' with any animals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 26, 2018, 10:20:01 pm
His playing with rhinos is fine, as long as he doesn't shoot them like he does other animals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 26, 2018, 10:29:16 pm
Meghan's glossy posse: From the woman who massages the inside of her mouth to the blonde with a colourful love-life, the team turning her into a princess

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5318095/Meet-Meghan-Markles-team-turning-princess.html#ixzz55KfhrQGC


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 26, 2018, 10:32:49 pm
^^^^^I'll be a bit cynical here but this situation seems like a Charlie Sheen one - he liked his adult movies and married his adult movie actress. If Harry "couldn't find anyone" and instead of finding someone on his own, he chose soho then it's not far fetched to suppose that this type of women are his "dating pool".


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 26, 2018, 11:19:42 pm
Meghan Markle has allegedly been going through ‘royal boot camp’ to make sure she’s ready to be married to Prince Harry! So will she actually do these bizarre things?!

Prince Harry, 33, and Meghan Markle, 36, are getting ready to walk down the aisle, but first Queen Elizabeth, 91, has some demands, according to the Feb. 5 issue of Star. “Meghan understands she must have a different public persona now, [but] she was shocked at some of the restrictions,” an insider tells the mag of the list of “royal rules” that Meghan received from Kensington Palace. “They just seem too antiquated and ridiculous!” the source adds.

According to Star’s “special report,” Meghan is expected to adhere to some pretty ridiculous rules. “Don’t speak unless spoken to, and always let Harry respond first,” one of the supposed rules says. “Also, let him walk in front of you — no one likes a henpecked prince!” Yikes. We can’t really see Meghan standing for that, can you?

Other rules include no cell phone use in public because it’s “vulgar,” no conversations “in public that last more than two minutes,” no getting mad at Harry or anyone else in public, no talking about beauty, diet or fitness, no flashy dressing, and no complaining about feeling ill. “Do gaze adoringly at Harry,” one of the rules allows. “Your job is to make him look good!” Ew. See more photos of Meghan and Prince Harry here.

“She’s told friends she finds the rules hilarious — but no one in the royal family is laughing,” the source shares. Well, if the Suits star doesn’t follow them, her wedding to Harry is as good as canceled, claims the report! Yeah, okay.

HollywoodLifers, what do you think of this report? Tell us if you believe Meghan is really going to live by all of these rules!
http://hollywoodlife.com/2018/01/24/meghan-markle-royal-boot-camp-walk-behind-prince-harry/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 26, 2018, 11:54:56 pm
It might be a similar case to Charlie Sheen if Harry had a known history as he did of dating porn actresses. But he didn't. His girlfriends from his teens came from all sorts of backgrounds, mostly BBB. Chelsy for instance was a law student and Cress a student of dance for most of their romance.

Ive followed Harry for years and he hasn't been a known habitue of Soho House. He is a member of the Arts Club for example. Same thing, private members, no paps hanging about inside, wine, dine, dance. He and mates have often been there. Harry often used to go to the pub, The Blue Cow that Mark Dyer owned in Chelsea. Harry took Meghan there for lunch. He and mates would often club at places owned by Guy Pelly and other friends. If Jack Brookshank ever starts his chain of boutique clubs where you can get a roast dinner then Harry will probably dine there too.

Anyway, Soho House isn't a brothel. It's a private members club, one of dozens in London where people with money and their guests can wine, dine and dance. It doesn't have a bad reputation at all.

Lots of single people have friends setting themselves up on blind dates if they're single. It doesn't mean they can't 'find' someone.

 As I said before in my previous post Harry wouldn't find difficulty in finding girlfriends it is in finding someone he loves who will love him but also be able to cope with Royal engagements, the BRF and their lifestyle, the tabloid press and the relentless publicity from them and social media 24/7 for the rest of their days, or at least until George and Charlotte grow up and take some of the pressure off! 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 27, 2018, 12:58:47 am
Richard Palmer's questioning the nature of Harry's recent trip to Africa.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter

Meghan's glossy posse: From the woman who massages the inside of her mouth to the blonde with a colourful love-life, the team turning her into a princess
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5318095/Meet-Meghan-Markles-team-turning-princess.html#ixzz55LFqQwM2
Very high maintenance but still manages to look bad up close without the tv lighting and IG filters. This list reads more fantasy than reality though. She did have to sell a certain lifestyle to fill her blog and to attract other high cost/luxury sponsors.  :cookie:
Why Harry's still so close to Tiggy Legge-Bourke, the Sloaney nanny who drove Diana half-mad with jealousy
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5317915/Why-Harrys-close-Tiggy-Legge-Bourke.html#ixzz55LGUeXjk


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 27, 2018, 01:10:54 am
^^^^^I'll be a bit cynical here but this situation seems like a Charlie Sheen one - he liked his adult movies and married his adult movie actress. If Harry "couldn't find anyone" and instead of finding someone on his own, he chose soho then it's not far fetched to suppose that this type of women are his "dating pool".

I do know that Harry has lost all his goodwill and he's clearly shown his preference and who he is.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 27, 2018, 01:20:03 am
^^ I don't know that Richard is questioning the actual nature of the visit to Africa, (it's obviously a working trip), as whether the three engagements should be in the CC or not. Harry has been to each of the HQs of his two African patronages.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CepeSmith/status/956679399113416704

^ If Harry has 'sacrificed all his goodwill' it's remarkable that he got 81% approval ratings in the last opinion poll taken only a little while ago, and was 76% in the one before it which was also recent. Both were taken by respected pollster companies.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 27, 2018, 01:24:24 am
William pulls that same crap with "working trip" he will run off to Africa to get away/vacay then have a day of meeting an official then it gets turn into a working trip

as for the CC the KP staff adding this trip then delete it then add it again just shows that whole KP team need the ax


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 27, 2018, 01:34:38 am
Times have changed. In the old days, a senior royal generally married a Princess from another royal house or an aristo.  Never were these women called opportunistic or gold digging because they were sought after and various European royal houses would wish to marry their sons off to the princesses. Aristos were also "prizes" on the marriage market and their families were wealthy and titled. Now the princes marry "commoners" and there have been charges of "opportunism" in recent years. MM is the latest one. Rules have been relaxed so divorcees are admitted to royal families. It's different now. I don't know if the next generation will marry royals and/or aristos. But right now the royal princes and princesses of the UK have been marrying commoners. So Meghan is going to be criticized.  At some point it was thought that Harry may "better" William's choice of bride and even William might have married Isabelle Calthorpe (the breakup in 2007 was said to be because William wanted to try to court Isabelle Calthorpe, but  she did not want him).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on January 27, 2018, 01:59:10 am
I don’t ever criticize Sparkles because she’s a ‘commoner’.  In fact, I find that term beyond insulting and degrading.  She gets criticism from me because of how she has behaved, the people who have been used by her, how many versions of her there are and the hunt to find the genuine article is about as successful as tripping over a unicorn. 

I, personally, am repelled by her on many levels but mostly because she’s a fraud and I’m sick of her whole dog and pony show that relentlessly insults my intelligence and I refuse to buy into it. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 27, 2018, 02:01:22 am
That's the terminology used. I don't like it much either. Even the Queen Mum as Lady Elizabeth was called a "commoner".

No, I was just saying that royals don't have the same "matches" from other European houses. Or aristos. And divorced people are allowed to marry in. So the demographics of royal wives has changed. I suspect there will be more "Meghans" in future.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 27, 2018, 02:55:45 am
SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Meghan Markle's matchmaking pal larks about in the loo
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She is said to be the secret matchmaker who set up Prince Harry on a blind date with Meghan Markle in 2016.
This week Violet von Westenholz, a 33-year-old fashion PR executive for Ralph Lauren and daughter of former Olympic skier Baron Piers von Westenholz — a pal of Prince Charles — showed she knows how to have a good time.
She is seen in this snap (far left) larking around in the loos at a party wearing a very short black dress. The image was posted by Amanda Sheppard, 35 (centre), the ex wife of Bryan Ferry, to mark the 33rd birthday of her party organising business partner India Langton (far right). Sheppard captioned the image; ‘Happy Birthday to my absolute bestie and work wife. I hope you have the best day.’[/b]
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Harriet, Toronto, Canada, 22 minutes ago
Nice try D M, the public knows Violet was not the Match Maker in this farce of a romance. There are far to many missing pieces of the puzzle, and the time line of this romance, which do not make sense. It is only a matter of time before it all becomes clear, and it will not be pretty. Come on Harry, snap out of it !
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Harriet, Toronto, Canada, 26 minutes ago
The fact Violet has not admitted to setting NutMeg and Ginger up speaks volumes.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5318717/Meghan-Markles-matchmaker-enjoys-party-black-dress.html#ixzz55Li5Ylqh
^^Her presence and the continuation of this farce has tainted the royal family on a whole. Her dubious past and present behavior is too murky and not respectful that people are getting to the point of wanting the royals out because they're a waste of time and money and sense allowing such a slapper to get engaged to Harry and Harry continues to be called a fool and other things.
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RomyS, New Jersey, United States, 6 minutes ago
I have to admit that I got about one-third of the way through this article when I started to feel physically nauseous. It makes me wonder how long it would take a person like this to come right out and say it: Let them eat cake!
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5318095/Meet-Meghan-Markles-team-turning-princess.html#ixzz55LknnFz3


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 27, 2018, 03:03:50 am
The Queen Mum, as Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyons, was a commoner. She was a commoner until the day she died. She never meet the requirements to be anything else. Same as Diana - a commoner - from birth until death even as the wife of the Prince of Wales she was still a 'commoner'.

The only people who are not 'commoners' in the UK are:

The Monarch

The Peers of the Realm.

In the Royal Family those who are NOT commoners are: Philip, Charles, William, Andrew, Edward, Richard and Edward.

Harry will probably cease being a commoner on his wedding day assuming he is given a title. Currently he is eligible to stand for election to the House of Commons and as such is a commoner.

There is a difference between the term 'commoner' and 'common'. The first simply identifies the 99.9%+ of the British population who are not peers of the realm or the monarch while the latter is used as a derogatory term to describe the nature of a person.

In some countries the entire family of the noble was regarded as noble with the rights etc but not in Britain - which is why many times a politician had to give up their seat in the House of Commons in order to enter the House of Lords when their father died. It is why Winston Churchill refused a title - so his son and future descendants could have a political career if they so wanted because as a peer of the realm there are many positions that by convention they can't ever hold - PM and Chancellor of the Exchequer are the two most obvious ones these days (convention not law mind). Of course when Churchill made that decision the idea that a peer could 'put aside' their title and stay in the Commons hadn't come into being.

Queen Victoria even objected to having to give her younger sons Dukedoms until it was pointed out that as mere princes they could stand for election to the House of Commons and the damage that could do - if they stood and lost, or they were in the opposition party to the government etc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 27, 2018, 04:07:46 am
So Harriet of Toronto is still pretending to be an insider to MM and her circle, I see. Repeat and repeat again in the Fail's comments, Harrirt! She'll probably still be at it when Meghan and Harry are at the altar!

She's another one that's been at it since last October. Funny how, if she knows so much about Meghan as she sometimes hints in her comments, she wasn't telling the world about this relationship earlier than October!

It's not going to matter after May 19th, (less than four months to go now to the wedding) Harriet, or whoever you call yourself!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 28, 2018, 12:39:32 am
Meghan Markle could replace KATE: Harry’s fiancee has Brexit test at Commonwealth event

MEGHAN Markle will face her toughest royal test yet when the Queen hosts the biggest gathering of heads of state ever to be held in the UK during a Commonwealth summit - and Meghan and Prince Harry are poised to take on roles usually reserved for Prince William and Kate.

The Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, known as CHOGM, takes place in London in April and will have added significance this year because of Brexit.

The Government is hoping to use the summit of 52 Commonwealth countries, which is being held at venues including Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle, as a platform to kick-start free trade talks with non EU countries in preparation for Britain’s exit from the bloc on March 29, 2019.

The Royal Family will be central to the week-long event, with the Queen, Prince Charles, Camilla and younger royals including the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry all expected to take part.

Meghan, 36, expressed a desire to find out more about the Commonwealth during an interview with Harry following their engagement last November. It is thought she will accompany Harry, 33, on a number of appointments - with speculation the couple may even need to step in for William and Kate because their third baby is due around the time of the conference, which starts on April 16.

This could see Harry and Meghan attend a glittering state banquet at Buckingham Palace, where the American actress could be asked to don a royal tiara for the very first time - just weeks before her wedding on May 19.
A royal insider said: “A huge amount of planning has gone into making CHOGM a success and members of the Royal Family will have a significant presence throughout the summit. Prince Harry will definitely have a role to play, and now he is engaged to Meghan Markle, CHOGM would provide the perfect opportunity for her to find out more about the Commonwealth.”

In previous years not all 52 heads of state have been able to attend the bi-annual conference, but Government sources say they expect an unprecedented attendance, making it the biggest summit ever held in Britain.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/910842/meghan-markle-news-prince-harry-kate-middleton-queen-royal-family-state-banquet


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on January 28, 2018, 01:21:39 am
The Queen usually attends two events at CHOGM - the initial meeting and the dinner. She has often left the event before the formal talks begin e.g Perth in 2011 she was on a  plane home on Day 2 having meet with the leaders, decided to change the succession to the crown with the 16 relevant heads of government and hosted the dinner.

As this event is in London I would expect most of the royals to show a number of the visiting Heads of Government around.

A State Dinner for 54 would be massive but I am not sure that The Queen would change protocol to the extent of allowing Meghan to attend such an event before she becomes a royal - maybe, maybe not.

William has never attended a CHOGM event and as such it would actually surprise me is Harry was asked to attend such an event before the future King and possible Head of the Commonwealth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on January 28, 2018, 01:58:03 am
Meghan Markle has allegedly been going through ‘royal boot camp’ to make sure she’s ready to be married to Prince Harry! So will she actually do these bizarre things?!

Prince Harry, 33, and Meghan Markle, 36, are getting ready to walk down the aisle, but first Queen Elizabeth, 91, has some demands, according to the Feb. 5 issue of Star. “Meghan understands she must have a different public persona now, [but] she was shocked at some of the restrictions,” an insider tells the mag of the list of “royal rules” that Meghan received from Kensington Palace. “They just seem too antiquated and ridiculous!” the source adds.

According to Star’s “special report,” Meghan is expected to adhere to some pretty ridiculous rules. “Don’t speak unless spoken to, and always let Harry respond first,” one of the supposed rules says. “Also, let him walk in front of you — no one likes a henpecked prince!” Yikes. We can’t really see Meghan standing for that, can you?

Other rules include no cell phone use in public because it’s “vulgar,” no conversations “in public that last more than two minutes,” no getting mad at Harry or anyone else in public, no talking about beauty, diet or fitness, no flashy dressing, and no complaining about feeling ill. “Do gaze adoringly at Harry,” one of the rules allows. “Your job is to make him look good!” Ew. See more photos of Meghan and Prince Harry here.

“She’s told friends she finds the rules hilarious — but no one in the royal family is laughing,” the source shares. Well, if the Suits star doesn’t follow them, her wedding to Harry is as good as canceled, claims the report! Yeah, okay.

HollywoodLifers, what do you think of this report? Tell us if you believe Meghan is really going to live by all of these rules!
http://hollywoodlife.com/2018/01/24/meghan-markle-royal-boot-camp-walk-behind-prince-harry/

Yeah like MEggles is going to listen to anybody. She will do what she wants when she wants, just like Waity.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 28, 2018, 01:58:59 am
I'm not sure that the CHOGM dinner is classed as a State dinner, though it is certainly a very grand and formal affair. A tiara event for royals for sure. It's doubtful that Kate will attend, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see William and Harry there, though William might be a no-show if the Cambridge baby arrives on that date.

Meghan I'm unsure about. If she does attend I don't believe she will wear a tiara. Nowadays tiaras are restricted to members of the Royal Family at these sorts of events so IF she attends she could do so on a more informal footing I suppose. There will of course be female attendees without tiaras at the dinner and so she wouldn't stand out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on January 28, 2018, 02:18:34 am
I thought tiara's were only loaned to those who are officially married in. If this is true, could it be confirmation that Harry will purchase one for her?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 28, 2018, 03:33:12 am
They won't be married yet, so Meghan shouldn't wear a tiara. Although she may throw a fit if they tell her no, and end up wearing one anyway. We'll see what happens.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 28, 2018, 03:45:02 am
Battle of the Windsor brides: TWO royal engagements, ONE shared venue...and a whole lot of competition ahead. So who will carry off the crown for the wedding of the year?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5320845/Meghan-Eugenie-battle-Windsor-bride.html#ixzz55RkcO6VE
No competion since he only royal wedding will be Eugenie's.

Ewh, so much talk about Soho House connection regarding how Harry met her. The air of skeekiness hangs around her and continues to taint the whole royal family.

No royal invite for Trump: US President has not been asked to attend wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
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Asked if he would like to go to the royal wedding in May at Windsor Castle's St George's Chapel, Mr Trump simply said: 'I want them to be happy. I really want them to be happy.
'They look like a lovely couple.'
When Morgan pointed out she had labelled the billionaire 'divisive' and a 'misogynist', he said: 'Well, I still hope they're happy.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5320943/Trump-says-not-invited-royal-wedding.html#ixzz55RnNJCxE
Funny when Trump comes off more classier than MM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 28, 2018, 04:09:50 am
It's almost certain that competing against each other in any way hasn't even crossed either woman's mind. The Fail always goes in for this rivalry and competition stuff in its clickbait online articles. It's pathetic.

I don't see how the wedding of a senior Royal like Harry, the son of the Prince of Wales and much higher in terms of rank and profile than Eugenie, and who is a working Royal, can be said to be having a non royal wedding and Eugenie's a 'Royal' one. Both are marrying commoners, Harry's mother was an aristo, Sarah was well connected but the Ferguson family had no cash. The BRF and a few spare royals, Greek, African, and German will probably be at Harry's nuptials, Eugenie may have some of those but more celebs as she has friends in that set, and Harry will get the carriage ride around town and the wedding televised. I'm sure both weddings will be absolutely superb.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 28, 2018, 04:43:46 am
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Could Victoria Beckham’s saviour be in the form of a Princess?
She and Meghan Markle have struck up a close friendship after being introduced by Becks and Prince Harry.
Meghan even wore a VB cashmere jumper for her engagement, pictured below.
That is despite the firm getting a boost from Meghan Markle, who wore a Victoria Beckham cashmere sweater in the official photoshoot to celebrate her engagement to Prince Harry. The £690 garment sold out.
But Victoria herself no longer has the same ability to drive sales.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5320455/Victoria-Beckham-slashing-prices-fashion-label.html#ixzz55S11ObVN
VB is all about her image of being a successful designer, so she's going o be ticked off at this revelation. Her association with MM spelt poison to her business as well as mismanagement. Some of her cloths are nice but way too expensive.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 28, 2018, 11:21:33 am
It's almost certain that competing against each other in any way hasn't even crossed either woman's mind. The Fail always goes in for this rivalry and competition stuff in its clickbait online articles. It's pathetic.

I don't see how the wedding of a senior Royal like Harry, the son of the Prince of Wales and much higher in terms of rank and profile than Eugenie, and who is a working Royal, can be said to be having a non royal wedding and Eugenie's a 'Royal' one. Both are marrying commoners, Harry's mother was an aristo, Sarah was well connected but the Ferguson family had no cash. The BRF and a few spare royals, Greek, African, and German will probably be at Harry's nuptials, Eugenie may have some of those but more celebs as she has friends in that set, and Harry will get the carriage ride around town and the wedding televised. I'm sure both weddings will be absolutely superb.

It's well known that Charles does not want Eugenie and Beatrice in the model of the scaled down monarchy. Harry is indeed higher in rank and profile.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 28, 2018, 05:07:51 pm
I am not a fan of Andrew but this is the first time since Anne married i believe that a prince will walk a princess down the aisle. I don't know that Anne was walked down the aisle her second time. It is tacy of MM to do that at all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 28, 2018, 06:19:43 pm
Letizia of Spain wore a white dress and veil, had bridesmaids, the whole thing, when she married for the second time, to Felipe in a cathedral setting with a full mass. No-one thought that was tacky. It was Felipe's first wedding just as it will be Harry's and those two men quite obviously wanted/want to see their brides come down the aisle like any other bride.
 In a world where there are thousands of second and even third marriages people do what suits them nowadays instead of keeping to some arcane rule. How many first time brides today are virgins when they wear that white gown and veil, because after all, that's what the white is supposed to signify?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 28, 2018, 06:35:36 pm
One should check if this is only her second marriage. Could be third, possibly fourth. How many white dresses does she really need. Also, they should check if MM has a daughter already. Just so they cover their bases and don't spend a fortune while MM comea with a whole entourage of money hungry power hungry dame hungry friends and family. My guess is that brf doesn't want to turn into the hunger games brf edition.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on January 28, 2018, 07:22:57 pm
Marriages and a child her best friend for thirty two years knew nothing about! The only people who are speculating that MM has had a second marriage (or more) and a child are the increasingly desperate anti-Meghan Tumblr sites who still feed baseless rumours about her to Twitter. Thank God the main three have very few posters now. Their latest is that Doria had two daughters, fed to them by an anon that still haunts a couple of the sites! Perleeze! How about a reality check!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 28, 2018, 08:14:25 pm
I'm with you on that but I can't shake off the hunch that there's something fishy about MM and the palace better leave no stone unturned.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 28, 2018, 09:32:28 pm
One should check if this is only her second marriage. Could be third, possibly fourth. How many white dresses does she really need. Also, they should check if MM has a daughter already. Just so they cover their bases and don't spend a fortune while MM comea with a whole entourage of money hungry power hungry dame hungry friends and family. My guess is that brf doesn't want to turn into the hunger games brf edition.

Marriages can't be hidden especially for someone whose past has gone through a fine tooth comb of inspection. She is no Zsa Zsa Gabor. And as for having a daughter, I find that very hard to believe. I think Meghan would have raised the child. I  think royal men are a lot more likely to have love children (think Prince Albert of MOnaco).

As for the multiple marriages, this would have been uncovered ages and ages ago and she would have been Gone with a capital G


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 28, 2018, 10:06:31 pm
Why do you think she would have been gone if she had a third marriage or a child? Harry can marry whomever he chooses. I think they did check up on Meghan, but it's not as extensive as some people would like to believe. I don't believe she had another husband or a daughter, but there are no standards for Harry's wife, other than perhaps someone with a criminal record would be discouraged.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 28, 2018, 10:27:38 pm
As far as I recall in recent times no senior royal got to marry someone with 3 or more ex husbands. And I think the criticism re: MEghan would be that she fibbed about the number of past marriages and lied and also lied about the child.  I think that was the allegation against Meghan in Tumblr that she lied about her past.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 29, 2018, 01:22:15 am
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Sparkles keeps Harry¿s test/ticles in a designer jewelry box on her nightstand. She takes them out every morning & with a solid gold pair of royal tweezers, she plucks a single ginger hair from the withering sac. If it¿s curly, she grandstands & bloviates about her feminism & humble roots for the cameras. If it¿s straight, she just stares straight ahead & pretends to mysterious. Once the ba/lls have been plucked clean, she¿ll cash in on her prenup & jump on a plane back to LA, where she¿ll begin writing her tell-all.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5321547/Meghan-Markle-plans-SPEECH-wedding-reception.html#ixzz55X3GD3OK


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 29, 2018, 01:28:21 am
I am looking forward to William's wedding speech with jokes about the FA Cup.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: LadyLaura on January 29, 2018, 04:13:40 am
^^  lmao


I personally go with the theory that she's blackmailing, and her connection with soho seems fishy to me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 29, 2018, 12:13:23 pm
My theory is that there's been a secret filmmaking when PH was visiting her and now there's a 1.5 mil blackmail on the tape (by MM). That's not a tumblr rumor or read somewhere else. My personal opinion based on what I could expect from MM. I also read about a story of a h who was doing a bj on a billionaire and then saved the "material" artificially inseminated herself and then sued him for alimony. If given the chance, I don't think that MM wouldn't go that rout of extra insurance for herself if given the chance.

With the tig being over, the Suits being over and the merching being extremely limited to the mutual engagements only which is once a month, I am not sure if she's making good money, especially not good enough for the PR push that is still going on. So, I'd bet that she's owing favors to a lot of people like JM, MA, Soho investors. Problem is - Victoria Beckam got burned by the publicity of the engagement photos. I'm sure that people in business talk amongst each other about the MEghan effect and how a short boost in sales may not be the best celebrity association.

I think that it will be harder and harder for MM to find new sponsors and soon we'll be asking: who's paying for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 29, 2018, 01:54:09 pm
^ lol if it was so easy Harry would have married years ago. If he didnt want to marry her he wouldnt. He is protected by one of the best security services of the world.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Grey Mare on January 29, 2018, 03:12:01 pm
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"Harry was having a really hard time finding anyone," admits our well-placed source. "It's hard enough finding someone new to date. He can hardly go on Tinder or a dating app like normal people, but to meet someone that you actually connect with, that was proving to be almost impossible.

So, basically...

Harry only dated Meghan and asked her to marry him because he could not find anyone else, so he feels as though he has to settle.  Wow...  :laugh:

Who is the 'well-placed source'? One of the Kitchen staff at BP? More likely a made up 'source' via the imagination of the writer of the article!

 As a follower of Harry I read that sort of thing for years in the DM and other tabloids as he reached thirty. (It was mostly the Fail.) Harry has had two long standing relationships before Meghan. Chelsy was free spirited, liked going back to Africa whenever she wanted, couldn't stand the idea of Royal life. She and Harry were very young when she started the romance, which was turbulent for years anyway.

Cressida Bonas dated Harry for two years but according to her mum's best friend Ingrid Sewell, (the editor of the glossy mag 'Majesty') Cressida couldn't stand walking about London streets and having people comment in her hearing on her hair, shoes, clothes etc. She just couldn't hack it.

It's not that Harry can't get a girlfriend. That's plainly ridiculous. He's shown tons of times over the years that he has had brief relationships and flirtations.

It is getting someone who he loves and wants to marry and who loves and wants to marry him, someone who is also prepared to run the barrage of practically 24/7 publicity as well as fit into Royal life and the BRF, that is the difficult part.

Kate is an exception. She was prepared to hang around, prepared to put up with the publicity, and the two of them had privacy in their Uni years. Harry and Chelsy for instance never had that.

Harry is a high profile man, the British tabs and Twitter love him, he has international recognition and practically everything he does and says is commented on, and has been for years. The woman that he marries will have to face that barrage. Every article of clothing and accessories dissected online and in the Press, every remark, every facial expression, every hairstyle discussed and all of it torn to pieces sometimes in the tabloid Press and online in forums, Twitter, Tumblr.

Would any of us like that sort of life in spite of the enormous privileges? I sure as heck wouldn't. I like dressing as I please, going where I please, acting silly in public on occasions. That doesn't happen for full time royals or their longtime significant others. That's why someone has to be found who they can not only love and live with but who knows that for the rest of their lives there will be virtually no private time to be had without being photographed by someone.

Harry has found Meghan. I know people on the forum dislike her and mistrust her motives. However, I don't believe that Harry felt he had to settle. I believe they are both in love and that Meghan is prepared to live in another country, join the BRF (itself can be an ordeal as Diana and Sarah found) and is OK with publicity because of her previous career.

She's received a lot of hatred online and I guess I may be found to be wrong about her, but I wish them well, and I hope Meghan is happy in the BRF and they have a long contented marriage with children. As I've said, marrying a high profile prince means giving up many things as well as gaining other things. Time will tell, I guess, but I don't think Harry 'had to settle'.

It sure sounds like Harry was desperate and feels as though he has to settle to me.  I don't believe his trouble in finding someone has anything to do with Harry being a Prince or that he is rich, etc., I think he is a dope.  Harry does not have to get married at all.  He is still young and his brother is married with two kids and a third one the way, so there is no rush for him to connect with anyone.  I think the real reason why Chelsy and those other women ran away from Harry is because he is a dope.  There is not a woman alive (unless she is from another planet), who does not know who Prince Harry is and Meghan is a liar for saying she did not.  She knew who Harry was and she put herself in his way.  Harry being the dope figured, "Well, I am tried of looking around and this woman is willing to put with me, so what the heck."   This is not a romantic love story.  This is about a dopey and desperate Prince, who is settling for the first woman who came along willing to take advantage of him.  

Being a celebrity and being a royal are two very difference things.  Just because Meghan is a celebrity and use to publicity does not mean that she qualified to be a royal.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 29, 2018, 03:23:04 pm
I think he is better off getting married. Otherwise the UK will have another Prince Albert of Monaco situation. Harry would have some Love Children before settling down at 56.

Lots of women put themselves in his way. But Harry is a willing participant here and decided to marry her. The man has to be willing...

Meghan worked as an actress and probably has better public speaking skills than most of them who er um and ah their way through talks. IMO anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 29, 2018, 05:13:11 pm
Maybe not so much. He's better off looking for the woman with whom he will be happy but getting married to someone just because they took acting classes is not a good idea. Anyone with a little bit of intelligence can learn how to do public speaking. He's not old yet. He's not 56 yet. Plenty of time to find a woman he genuinely likes and who likes him back.

Marrying is not a solution to his love problem. It adds more problems to the problem.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 29, 2018, 05:27:29 pm
In regard to the Queen of Spain, her first marriage was a civil ceremony where no one was walking her down the aisle in a white dress. Now it's true that Megan did not marry in a Christian ceremony and had some sort of civil ceremony with Jewish traditions but she did walk down with a big white dress and a big white wedding and I think it's tacky that she does it twice. The royal family supposed to be traditional. And and Charles did not marry in any big white wedding dress ceremonies the second time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 29, 2018, 05:55:53 pm
Maybe not so much. He's better off looking for the woman with whom he will be happy but getting married to someone just because they took acting classes is not a good idea. Anyone with a little bit of intelligence can learn how to do public speaking. He's not old yet. He's not 56 yet. Plenty of time to find a woman he genuinely likes and who likes him back.

Marrying is not a solution to his love problem. It adds more problems to the problem.

Sometimes it helps matters. If he decides to play the field it would be bad too. He would be seen dating more actresses and models ala Leo Di Caprio, and the ladies getting younger and younger. And perhaps a love child or two would be in the mix.

The trouble with the royals and those who marry into it that they feel they don't need any 'improvements' in public speaking or other things.

I don't think either Meghan or Harry would marry if they did not at least like and love each other too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 29, 2018, 06:20:30 pm
Harry's checklist for his future wife:

No children: check
No criminal background: check
Divorced? Yes, but only once: check
Can handle media/press attention: check
Public speaking: check
Involved in charity: check

Country of origin, education and race can be ignored if the woman is beautiful and thin, right?  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on January 29, 2018, 06:32:59 pm
^ lol :thumbsup:
Also: Willing to take me (H) and my crazy family on: check!

^^ Leo DiCap has turned into a creep imo :nervous:

^^^ Did Letizia really not wear a white dress to her 1st wedding? Don't think I ever saw pics, but that might be just me. Many wear to civil ceremonies the whole lot, esp those who don't go for a religious ceremony.

And the white wedding dress doesn't signify purity, but is a trend started by queen Vic, who was kind of the first to wear a white wedding dress, which was novel at the time, because back then women just wore the best dress they had, or had a new one made, but of pretty much any colour, so that it could be re-worn. Poorer people either couldn't afford a white wedding dress at all (too impractical, would get dirty in 5 mins and can't be re-worn) or had it dyed in a colour of their choice for re-wearing purposes, which btw also rich women did: dye the dress after the wedding to be re-worn. A white wedding dress was nonetheless also a status symbol, esp if the bride didn't have to or chose not to dye it after the wedding.

If going for the "pure" and "virginal" colour, then traditionally the dress should either feature or be entirely in the colour of baby/ powder blue.
So wearing a white dress is really a fashion, though the modern understanding seems to be that it signifies purity and virginity.

To be fair, traditions and conventions change, incl the meaning of colour (eg until fairly recently blue was a girl's colour and pink a boy's, now it's the opposite, since ca. the 1950s, after a marketing campaign; or, well, the "meaining" of a white wedding dress..).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 29, 2018, 10:21:16 pm
Letizia first marriage was a civil ceremony which is not recognized as valid in the Catholic church and that is why she was allowed to marry in the Catholic church in a big ceremony. That is a big change from my days when if you had been civilly married you were allowed to marry in the Catholic church but you had to Marianna brown dress and be ashamed. So ridiculous. And any of them I don't know whether the Anglican Church recognizes civil marriages or Jewish marriage is for that matter. Therefore maybe she's never been married and that's okay now to be married in pomp in the Anglican Church. Times have changed too much for my taste. I still think they're tacky.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 30, 2018, 02:52:14 am
Has this been posted yet? Sorry, I can't post link so maybe someone else can if not already done. Go to IG site meghanharrydaily. There are a lot of pics of meghan et mum.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on January 30, 2018, 04:55:58 am
^ these are old and already seen pics with her mom.
They have the dress from MM's first wedding though... same day we discussed it. How creepy of her and her pr to "not" read our every word.

^^^^Outspoken political views: check, shady past: check, fake humanitarian: check, cheating on husband and on live in boyfriend: check, lying in her articles about herself: check, lying on her engagement interview: check,  hypocritical and race exploiter: check, inappropriate attire every time: check, that stoned look on IG opening: check, using her relationship to PH to make money off of his status: check,

... with MM there's a lot more boxes that are checked than it should be acceptable. There's difference between real love and being blinded by the ticking clock or by lust.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 30, 2018, 02:33:32 pm
What about check boxes for Harry? It takes two to make a relationship. I don't get why the woman is always blamed and the man is not.

Are the people in that Tumblr account Harry fans?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 30, 2018, 03:36:26 pm
 MM is trying for him to better her life beyond just love. She is not bettering his life other than companionship as he is in the Brf as a senior for now. His life is privileged and good. She is the one gaining as so was Kate. So they are held to a greater scrutinty.  Plus people liked Diana so they want better for her sons than they chose. There are many women who could do the job. They just didn't get the opportunity to meet the men. So, many want the women who marry them into the life to be really the best in character, ethics, etc. Obviously MM fails in these qualities to many and she has baggage beyond Kate. She has some good qualities, but her looks are not the best and that is with the help of plastic surgery. She is a fake and all the other things that have been said here. Sure Harry has many faults, but he is the prize not her, so she is going to be scrutinized.  To be equal to the sexes, I think Princess Victoria could have done much better. So the commoners, especially the likes of MM, are scrutinized. Before this time, they would not have been allowed to get near the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on January 30, 2018, 04:02:57 pm
^ these are old and already seen pics with her mom.
They have the dress from MM's first wedding though... same day we discussed it. How creepy of her and her pr to "not" read our every word.

^^^^Outspoken political views: check, shady past: check, fake humanitarian: check, cheating on husband and on live in boyfriend: check, lying in her articles about herself: check, lying on her engagement interview: check,  hypocritical and race exploiter: check, inappropriate attire every time: check, that stoned look on IG opening: check, using her relationship to PH to make money off of his status: check,

... with MM there's a lot more boxes that are checked than it should be acceptable. There's difference between real love and being blinded by the ticking clock or by lust.
Thanks. The pic appeared on my IG feed so I thought I'd share with you all.... I was expecting they had been posted but didn't know for certain. .. :thumbsup:

As far as the white wedding dress... meh, I don't care about colour and not everyone accepts so-called traditions or has their own, created or otherwise, but I do understand the smirking, I really do esp if the bride-to-be sluttedd her way to the position. .. personally, I want to wear pink and pearls with 20s style dress. But that's just me. To each her own.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 30, 2018, 04:31:58 pm
^^^
Sandy got me thinking about a "Harry as a future husband checklist":  :thumbsup:

No children: check
No criminal background: check
Divorced? Never married: check
Can handle media/press attention: check
Public speaking: check
Involved in charity: check
Career? Prince of the United Kingdom, military?: check
Money? Inherited money from granny, mommy and daddy: check
Nice personality: check
Physically fit (I forgot to add this to the future wife checklist): check
Well endowed?: not sure, future bride will find out on the wedding night  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on January 31, 2018, 05:23:38 am
He hasn't worked in years, so no career. Although moving into full-time royal duties would be a good step in the right direction, he is a son of the next King and brother to the one after that.
Not sure about his personality in private, although he does seem to do well with public speaking and meeting people at events.
Physically fit? Not really, he used to be but gained some weight. Let's hope he starts working out again if he hasn't already, it's always nice to stay in shape/attractive for one's spouse, and he's getting married soon.
We've already seen the size of Harry's "package" due to his going commando in tight jeans getting into a car several years back.  :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on January 31, 2018, 03:22:57 pm
I'm sure Marbles knows exactly how well endowed Harry is and how uncircumcised he is. Not to mention that everyone has seen his naked pictures in Vegas although his thing a ling was blanked out in the photos I saw. I don't think any Brides in the western world wait till the wedding night anymore and especially the ones that are living with their fiances. Harry has twice as many checks in his favor then marbles although I think she beats him in intelligence.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on January 31, 2018, 03:46:31 pm
 :hide:

Lets not continue this conversation


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on January 31, 2018, 04:25:45 pm
^ :laugh: No problem.  :thumbsup:

We know men don't care about gaining weight themselves, i.e. the Duke of York. He isn't called the "Duke of Pork" and the press were relentless with his ex-wife calling her the "Duchess of Pork." :sob: I pay for a gym membership and I am barely losing weight, the Duke of York can swim for free a few hours at the Buck Palace pool like Kate to get in shape, just plain lazy.  :angry:

I can't imagine Megs and Harry being intimate before they marry because "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" :tehe:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on January 31, 2018, 08:14:32 pm
'She's more than just Prince Harry's girlfriend': Priyanka Chopra praises best friend Meghan Markle for modernising the monarchy as she hints she'll be part of the bridal party
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The 35-year-old told Harper's Bazaar Arabia: 'It’s natural for people to be like, "Oh that’s Prince Harry’s girlfriend, but she’s a lot more as well”.'
Priyanka believes that her friend will modernise the royal institution, saying: 'I don’t think anybody else would be able to do it the way she will. She’s just right for it.'
'She’s an icon, truly, that girls can look up to, that women can look up to. She’s normal, she’s sweet, she’s nice, she thinks about the world, wants to change it and this was even before any of this happened.'
'So I do think Meghan being a part of the royal family is a big step in the direction of so many things; of women, of feminism, of diversity, of race, of the monarchy versus everyone else. It’s a beautiful step in the right direction.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5334715/Priyanka-Chopra-praises-best-friend-Meghan-Markle.html
What is this woman talking about? MM is a cautionary tale not someone to look up to. I hope Priyanka gets backlash for her dumb comments.
MM is getting it in the comments though. Who does she think she is trying to modernize anything. I’m fact, what is she really trying to do here? Does she have any concept at how dumb she looks and sounds? The British royal family doesn’t need a silly aging marginal American actress telling them how to modernize or anything else. It’s insulting to keep reading about how this foreigner with zero ties to Britain or the commonwealth feels the need to push her lefty hippy California nonsense on an old established institution like the British royal family.
It seems she might be fretting over why she’s being scrutinized.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on January 31, 2018, 11:00:09 pm
I don't think Meghan has much influence. Probably not even for the date set for the wedding.  Her "influence" is very much overemphasized, to say the least.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 01, 2018, 04:14:51 am
The wedding date was chosen after looking at the senior royals' diaries. What spring dates were open, and which things could be moved around to a different weekend if need be. Eugenie and Jack's wedding date will also be chosen that way for the fall/autumn.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 01, 2018, 01:25:29 pm
Then how did they miss Will's big day at the FA cup and double booked that day. It's not like the whole royal family are working every day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 02, 2018, 04:36:49 am
I have no idea how that date was chosen, I only heard some of them mention in interviews about checking everyone's diaries. Maybe there won't be a scheduling conflict (different times of day), or maybe William can skip the game this year.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 02, 2018, 04:24:59 pm
I thought for sure they would've chosen May 26th.

I didn't think it would be May 12th, since someone mentioned the Queen attending the Chelsea Flower Show.

But they probably chose May 19th because they have a week and half to be on honeymoon and then return in time for the Trooping on June 9th.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 02, 2018, 06:08:38 pm
As a Brit who actually believes the royal family has a unique place in the world, I’m finding this situation sickening and sad as it continues to rumble on. An approved wedding between these two would forever ruin the monarchy. IMO, the date was chosen because the senior members will all be busy doing other things; the wedding’s of no importance and can easily be canceled. Look at how diminished Harry’s become because of his involvement with her. Look at how old, haggard and thin she’s become since the “engagement” and public events to places that aren’t chic and expensive as she most likely would imagine being taken to as a fiancé of a prince. IMO, Harry could be covering up for someone more senior that had something with MM. This so called romance has a lot of red flags and shady people involved that it has to be more than meets the eye. Each public event brings out more comments on her bad character and Harry getting bashed for bringing this type of woman to the royal family.
I see comments trying to pitch MM and Waity against each other where Waity’s seen as regal and classy. How pathetic is that if this is why MM is still in. The bottom of the barrel didn’t need to be scrapped to make Waity look good. A lot of years were wasted by her doing nothing of note after her marriage that now she’s trying to be a working royal, people can’t get pass that she’s still merely Kate Middleton, Waity who waited around for Wills to marry her and had the people wait a very long time for her to actually do something in her new position; hence she’s still seen as Waity.
So how will this farce end and how will the monarchy be viewed after this mess is finished with?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 02, 2018, 06:53:54 pm
Unless under truly dire circumstances, the royals do not cancel weddings. However, The C and C wedding was postponed for one day because of the funeral of Pope John Paul II.

As a side note I think Harry's appearance would perk up if he gave up that beard. He looks so scruffy.

I still don't get why Meghan is the only one criticized by some commentators (DM board et al)  since Harry's no saint himself. I can't see either Meghan OR Kate as regal or classy. But one got in and the other is on the way in.

I still think it's the lesser of two evils, Harry settling down to me is better than him degenerating into a Leonardo Di Caprio with his girlfriends getting younger and younger. Just my take on it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 02, 2018, 07:44:12 pm
^ Harry isn't taken to task because he's already in the Royal Family.  He was born into it.  He grew up in it.  He is One Of Them.   Meggles is not.  She's not already there, and why pick someone just as unsavory as an addition to the family?  Why not get someone better?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 02, 2018, 09:24:51 pm
^exactly!!! Choosing MM with her shady background and her habit of using and discarding people withoout a care in the world also causes questioning his character. Up until this woman got linked to him, he was seen as a likable flawed chap who didn’t like celebrities using him and would quickly discard them. I don’t think that was a lie, so it leads me to think that this so called romance is a sham. Since she’s come along, people have been more vocal about how they feel about the royal family like never before and it’s not good for the royal family.
^^Since the romance, engagement and everything after it wasn’t done in the normal way the royals do things, I do expect this wedding not to go ahead.
All I can say at this point is long live the queen because she’s the only one getting respect from the people as they see that after she’s gone, so goes the monarchy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 02, 2018, 11:18:06 pm
Harry took quite the bashing in the media. He was the "bad prince" as opposed to his "saintly" brother. Harry did stupid things but he had to wear sackcloth and ashes and atone..

Harry's entrenched in this relationship. He wears his heart on his sleeve. I think he would not have "settled" for a sham of a marriage. But time will tell.

I think people  have always been vocal about the RF well before Meghan came along. The royals made their own scandals but that's for another thread.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 02, 2018, 11:23:07 pm
:  after the queen goes the monarchy will take a shift.  it will be the beginning of the end. And Herring marrying mm is bound to help it along.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 02, 2018, 11:28:44 pm
^exactly!!! Choosing MM with her shady background and her habit of using and discarding people withoout a care in the world also causes questioning his character. Up until this woman got linked to him, he was seen as a likable flawed chap who didn’t like celebrities using him and would quickly discard them. I don’t think that was a lie, so it leads me to think that this so called romance is a sham. Since she’s come along, people have been more vocal about how they feel about the royal family like never before and it’s not good for the royal family.
^^Since the romance, engagement and everything after it wasn’t done in the normal way the royals do things, I do expect this wedding not to go ahead.
All I can say at this point is long live the queen because she’s the only one getting respect from the people as they see that after she’s gone, so goes the monarchy.

Maybe no one wants him and he settled for MM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 03, 2018, 02:15:49 am
Here are the results of a very new poll commissioned by the Evening Standard, not the Spectator as I mistakenly said in another thread. The Cambridges and Harry lead this poll in popularity, as you can see by the graphs within the article, at 87%, William is 83%. That shows a remarkable surge in popularity for the young royals. Meghan is not included in the polling as she is not yet a Royal but the graph shows over 50% positive feelings for her as against 8% against. Ipsos Mori is a respected polling company, left leaning and not inclined to inflate approval ratings. As the article above shows these are remarkable approval ratings for Harry, and a good platform for Meghan after marriage.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/william-and-harry-are-the-most-liked-royals-since-records-began-a3756191.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Bella on February 03, 2018, 03:33:42 am
@Windsor2 I think you might be on to something about what this charade taking place. I've lost respect for PH since he hooked up with MM. For a soon to be a married man as he wanted to be cuz his friends have moved on & have families, he certainly doesn't appear to be happy as he should. There's something wrong with this picture. I've seen some pix of PH facial expressions that appear as if he's royally pis*ed @ MM & she s a thorn in his side. Could this so-called engagement be a diversion as to what s really going on & who he might be covering for & also someone's being blackmailed in the RF? There's something going on in the inside & it wouldn't surprise me @ all due to the reactions, expressions, by all & for MM to be allowed to break protocol as she's been doing & HM allowing this to continue, speaks volumes. Lets not ? that MM family, I put nothing past them & her. We know PH isn't an altar boy & we know a couple male members relationship with certain people involment with much younger & then there's silence.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 03, 2018, 04:15:50 am
^^I work with British people. No, they do not like her and the constant lies and leaks that represent her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 03, 2018, 04:52:41 am
I appreciate that you work with British people Ariel, and that they probably do not like her. However, even if you work with a half adozen Britishers, a dozen, two dozen, I'm sure that you would agree that that number does not represent the over 63 million people who live in the British Isles.

The polling company below that I linked, Optis Mori, has been in operation in Britain for years and all their results are carefully weighted. Meghan is not yet in the BRF and is not therefore counted for popularity reasons. However, the figures shown for her are clear: 52% favourable response against 8% unfavourable. Also, Harry gets a response in approval in the high 80's and higher than his brother.

I get that Harry is regarded on this forum (which has several posters of different nationalities, mostly US citizens posting here) as having lost all his popularity because he's bringing Meghan into the BRF.

However, unfortunately for that theory, three highly regarded different British polling companies have produced data in the last few months that show that far from that being the case, it's in fact directly opposite. He's the most popular member of the British royals according to this latest one and Optis Mori are not pro monarchy in any way shape or form so they aren't exaggerating anything.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 03, 2018, 07:31:37 am
I think it's because most people are ignorant and don't do any digging as to what their royal family is up to. Or too busy with their own lives to care much.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 03, 2018, 09:38:45 am
I used to believe in polls but since the last elections I do not trust what the polls say. Even with the low ratings of Trump sound about right. Someone, ahem - PH and MM, needed the polling ego stroke and they got it. Good for them for blissfully ignoring the 10K comments on DM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 03, 2018, 09:56:55 am
YouGov polling company, one of the three companies I quoted as having published their data over the last few months got the result of Brexit and of the last general election correct to within a quarter point. They also published the high poll results for Harry late last year.

 IPSO Moroi were not inaccurate in election results either. The other company is a university think tank and did not publish those results. The publication of high approval ratings for the Cambridges and Harry by these three companies, and more in Britain, are in line with approval ratings that have been published several times a year for at least five years and before that for the Wales brothers for nearly ten years. Very little variation and none going below 70% approval for either man.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 03, 2018, 02:05:15 pm
@leogirl first I hope the full moon supermoon Blue Moon eclipse was good for you as it was in Leo and I agree with you that people don't know who mm is and that is why they don't care or think she's all right. Here in the US at least where I'm at people are so so about her I don't think they really care one way or the other. But the few who I have told about her abandonment issues and how she treats her friends and her ex change their mind and think she's not that great and easily could get divorced from Harry. But overall people don't know who she is so therefore why not approve


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on February 03, 2018, 02:49:36 pm
There's an increasing number of people in the UK who just don't give a damn one way or another about the RF anymore and that could be why they don't bother questioning  things. On the other hand there are plenty who do  question and they don't like what they discover. Waity's only looking  better by comparison to MM so that's not saying much.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 03, 2018, 05:29:38 pm
^agreed.
I've to laugh when a tacky reality show person gives a better ring to his fiance than Harry gave to MM. Spencer Mathews, Pippa's husband's brother and Made in Chelsea reality show, gave Vogue Williams a ring worth over £150,000 and it fits too.  :tehe:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5346317/What-Carole-make-daughters-new-sister-law.html

The leak about their next public engagement in Scotland nest week hasn't been approved from KP as far as I know.
@byEmilyAndrews
New diary date for #Meghanmarkle & #princeharry. Continuing their tour of UK, they’ll go to Edinburgh, Scotland on Tuesday 13 February. Visits include Edinburgh castle, a youth cafe & Social Bite which tackles homelessness.
This woman's a danger to Harry's security as she can't keep her mouth closed. Her leaking to the press is ridiculous and is another sign amungst many others that turns the British people off her.
^It's bad when people are indifferent to the royal family. I suspect that more people will get like that who used to like the royal family. Right now, I think that people only hold any kind of respect for the queen and Phillip.
As far as this train wreck of a situation, I'm glad now that she was seen as fake and uninterested during the Endevor awards show because imo, that was a prelude to how she'd be at the IG later this year in Austrailia. She's not interested in the common man and especialy injured soldiers. At least we saw the old Harry in action. The vets will tell those who weren't there what MM was like and things aren't what they seem in the press. Her interests likes only in the press attention an getting paid to merch her crappy clothes and accessories. IMO, Harry's not as dumb as people think and I expect that this situation hs a logical explanation to it as this isn't any sort of a relationship that would lead to marriage.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 03, 2018, 07:10:53 pm
^^^ I don't know about Leo girl but I'm a Leo and I'm loving it.
^^Did you notice that because of MM Waity is now actually working unlike the pregnancy with George when she was in hiding most of it.
^ Well, she's inviting people to become her crowd fans so that she can up the price for the merching imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 03, 2018, 09:15:21 pm
^^Don't think it all her leaking Harry is in on it too


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 03, 2018, 11:03:12 pm
I agree. Harry is in on this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 04, 2018, 01:19:11 am
^ & ^^ I agree but why is he allowing her to do as she pleases? Why didn't the so called romance and engagement roll out like the other royal ones? Why did he say he was hiding her from his family? The whole thing's just very odd, so that's where I have my suspicions about Harr's part in all this. Remember he's tossed out women in the past who even hinted at dating him such as Mollie King who in actuality bare revealed anything about her and Harry.
MM is the 2nd coming of Wallace Simpson.  :nervous: The comments on the Wallace Simpson DM article stated that as well. Waity looks like her and MM acts like her.  :ick:
GIRL ABOUT TOWN: Ouch! As Palace prepares to send out invites for Harry and Meghan's wedding, Fergie gets snubbed... AGAIN!
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Kensington Palace is ready to send out invitations to Prince Harry’s wedding on May 19 any day now, but one person who won’t find a coveted envelope on her doormat is the Duchess of York.
She wasn’t expected to be asked – she didn’t go to Prince William’s wedding – but ever-optimistic Sarah, right, was quietly hoping to be there, not least to experience a dry run of sorts ahead of daughter Eugenie’s wedding, also at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, in October.
Fergie went skiing with Harry and Cressida Bonas in 2013, and the Prince is close to Eugenie whom he considers to be a party-pal and kindred spirit, but not close enough apparently to swing her mum an invitation.  
Guests will be asked not to buy Harry and Meghan presents, but to donate to a charitable fund instead. William’s wedding fund raised £1 million for 26 charities in 2011.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5348765/GIRL-TOWN-Fergie-gets-snubbed-AGAIN.html#ixzz5664V0WdS
We seem to be reading more about who's not invited than actually who is.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 04, 2018, 03:42:17 am
^We know who is invited from MM's  side: Priyanka, JM and kids (maybe without the husband as there were rumors of separation), MA. The Trudeaus may not be invited or may be invited ad a snub to chef Cory. Selena Williams will be invited as MM bestie even though she barely remembers her. S

amanta and her father won't "make" it, as well as her brother. Maybe Sam's daughter who praised her in an interview. Her mom will be there, of course, but not her mom's side of the family... they don't have the right shade of color for an invite to her royal wedding  :bat:

The Suits cast maybe - they all h8 her guts and especially Patrick is not happy that he got the sack because of her. So friends and family - 10 people max, that includes the dogs too. All else will be imo - auctioned seats to whomever want to be seen at the wedding and some actual billionaires that MM want to be seen amongst so that she can get a head start on flirting her way into husband number 2.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 04, 2018, 04:03:53 am
Ed and Sophie had the same numbers for their wedding at St George's, between five and six hundred guests. Do you know what relatives were invited from Sophie's side (besides mutual friends)? Sophie's father, her brother and his wife, and her uncle who was also her godfather. And that was it. It's on the published guest list.

For Kate and William's wedding there were about twenty Middleton/Goldsmith relatives (discounting mutual friends) out of the well over a thousand seating in Westminster Abbey. There were Kate's parents, her sister and brother, Mike's three brothers and wives and Uncle Gary and wife and a smattering of cousins.

It's always the case with Royal weddings, especially if the married-in's family is small, that there is a huge disparity between the BRF contingent and the married-ins' guests.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 04, 2018, 04:26:48 am
^ I'm sure that MM wants to be a modern bride and turn the wedding into a Hollywood event in exchange of invites to the red carpet


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 04, 2018, 04:43:18 am
The Royal Family is paying for most of this wedding, ie Charles and the Queen. Meghan is not in complete charge of the guest list and everybody the groom and bride invite will be checked off by Clarence House and BP.

That guest list (by protocol) would be gone over with a fine tooth comb before the invitations were sent out as happens with all Royal weddings. Happened with Ed and Sophie's, happened with Will and Kate, happened with Anne and Mark and so on. Even if Meghan wished to auction seating off to the highest bidder, (which I don't believe for a minute she does) that would not get past the gatekeepers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 04, 2018, 05:24:58 pm
Meghan Markle's half-brother insists his children should NOT be invited to her wedding to Prince Harry because his son's 'haven't seen her since they were children'
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Tom told the Sunday Mirror: 'Tracy [Thomas and Tyler's mother] and me stopped living as man and wife three months into the marriage because the relationship was such a disaster. She never wanted the Markle name when we were married and now suddenly she acts like she's still part of the family.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5349561/Meghan-Markles-half-brother-says-sons-wedding.html#ixzz56A3DA6jz
The never ending dreck.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 04, 2018, 05:58:45 pm
Tom has nothing to worry about none of the Markles getting an invite to the wedding .the only person and that's a BIG maybe is Meghans dad will get an invite


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 04, 2018, 06:37:44 pm
This family is a hot mess!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 04, 2018, 06:39:36 pm
Hot mess doesn't begin to describe it


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 04, 2018, 06:56:25 pm
If Tom is even allowed to go on a plane. I still think that it is very strange that he abandoned everyone in his family to hide away in Mexico.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 04, 2018, 10:20:47 pm
Royal wedding: Harry ‘to invite’ Aunt Sarah to heal family rift - despite snub reports
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The Prince’s aunt will be on the guest list for the wedding at St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle, on May 19, the Daily Express understands – in spite of claims yesterday that she has been snubbed.
Harry, 33, is understood to be keen to avoid causing her further pain.
A source said: “She has been told that Meghan was a big fan of the Spice Girls.”
Kensington Palace declined to comment.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/914417/royal-wedding-2018-prince-harry-sarah-auntie-meghan-markle
They’re not in sync are they? MM seemingly running her mouth to the press and Harry has to turn around and try and keep the peace within his family. This isn’t a royal wedding anyway or even a celebrity one as she’s still a nobody despise all of this press.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 05, 2018, 12:08:59 am
Samantha is the one running off her mouth.  It would take some effort to rein her in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on February 05, 2018, 02:33:50 am
WARNING
As I've said before that Sammantha & Company are a mess.The closer to May 19th, the more outlandish the outburst. This group make Fergie's antics petty & juvenile  because this bunch  bignono  bignono  bignono bignono.
There has to be a very, very, very, very special  pair of wings for Doria & her family for dealing with this bunch for sooooooooooooooo loooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng without crossing lines  :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:(if you notice in interviews they'll tal about MM like  a dog but no one else but 2 weeks later they love her again.)
 Lord knows if this batch of people were my family, I wouldn't be looking back either :shy: :shy: :shy: :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on February 05, 2018, 02:59:00 am
I'm sorry but I think they are ALL crazy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 05, 2018, 03:45:53 am
^ Exactly and that includes Doria and MM too. From DM comment that sums up my opinion of  the whole lot:

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"Harry is engaged to a divorced ex stripper who has a family like something out of the Jerry Springer show...dad living south of the border avoiding bill collectors, mom bankrupt doing laundry in public, siblings on welfare, brother charged with spousal abuse. Sister and ex husband writing tell-all books. BUT Fergie isnt good enough. lol lol lol .. what an absolute joke. Harry is one seriously arrogant fool...."

Apparently MM is also leaking to Emily Andres where her appearances will be. Does she really want to put a target on her meal ticket's back so badly?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 05, 2018, 04:42:46 am
If Tom is even allowed to go on a plane. I still think that it is very strange that he abandoned everyone in his family to hide away in Mexico.

It's strange to you because you're most likely a law abiding citizen. But if you think in terms of someone who has evaded taxes, has accumulated a large amount of debt, has committed a crime or crossed an organized crime group (ie. the mafia), it begins to make complete sense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 05, 2018, 03:12:37 pm
Omid Scobie
@_mio
Claims to want privacy, the best for her half-sister and not to be cashing in, yet (I’m told) has signed a $40k deal to be a “wedding correspondent” on a morning TV show and accepted a $3k-per-week newspaper retainer


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 05, 2018, 11:04:55 pm
Meghan Markle's Lifetime Movie Casting Choice Looks So Much Like Her (But Harry's Does Not!)

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle‘s small screen counterparts have been revealed!

The engaged couple’s whirlwind love story is officially getting the Hollywood treatment with a Lifetime movie, set to air this spring. Harry & Meghan: The Royal Love Story will start with the couple’s first date, which was set up by a mutual friend, and continue through their engagement.

Playing the title roles are Parisa Fitz-Henley, who is best known for her role in Marvel’s Jessica Jones on Netflix, and Murray Fraser, who starred on the British mini-series The Loch. He also appeared on another royal series: Victoria.

Parisa Fitz-Henley (left) and Meghan Markle
A+E Networks; Max Mumby/Indigo/Getty
With her dark locks, sparkling brown eyes and Audrey-approved brows, Fitz-Henley, 41, definitely resembles Meghan, while Fraser (although British-born and boasting a beard!) doesn’t look much like his royal red-headed counterpart.

Like Meghan, Fitz-Henley has opened up about her experience as a bi-racial actress in Hollywood.

“My mother is white, my father is black. Growing up, I never saw interracial relationships,” she told the Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder in September. “I didn’t even get to see my own parents together (they divorced when she was very young), so I was always super-excited when I saw an interracial family anywhere. So to be on a show (NBC’s Midnight, Texas) where interracial relationships are the norm, is incredible to me.”

Meghan, whose parents also divorced when she was young, has been candid about her family’s history with racism and the discrimination she has experienced being biracial.

In a moving essay in honor of Martin Luther King Jr. Day for her former lifestyle site, The Tig, she wrote about an experience she had with her mother and the “countless black jokes” told in front of her by people who don’t realize she is “mixed” — those unaware of her status as “the ethnically ambiguous fly on the wall.”

“It makes me wonder what my parents experienced as a mixed race couple,” she wrote. “It echoes the time my mom and I were leaving a concert at The Hollywood Bowl, and a woman called her the ‘N’ word because she was taking too long to pull out of the parking spot. I remember how hot my skin felt. How it scorched the air around me.”
http://people.com/royals/meghan-markles-lifetime-movie-casting-choice/


The guy playing harry is WAY better looking then Prince Harry


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 06, 2018, 12:42:41 am
He's so handsome and "hot". Much better looking than Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 06, 2018, 03:45:16 am
^^^I'm beginning to think this account is one of MM's go to places to leak to.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 06, 2018, 06:13:33 am
It's not the only one. There's the @royal_circular where she leaks the future engagements with Harry. She used to do it via Emily Andrews but now has her own twitter leak account. I'm sure that the palace are thrilled to have her on their security payroll.  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 06, 2018, 12:27:13 pm
Meghan Markle's on-screen dad reveals they used to speak in CODE about Prince Harry on the Suits set - and says he'll always be her 'loving fake father'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5357439/Meghan-Markles-screen-dad-reveals-Suits-secrets.html
Her audience of one because the main cast members didn’t bother with her lies.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 06, 2018, 05:03:22 pm
That or the rest are too self absorbed  to care if it doesn't affect them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on February 06, 2018, 08:37:27 pm
^ Exactly and that includes Doria and MM too.
Wow. Crazy? Doria? Really? :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: :stop: I believe the last time we heard from her was the letter on the day of the engagement. The last time we actually saw her was the day after the engagement beginning her day at work. Of course, there were family pictures in the Daily Mail. Has anyone seen or heard from her (I cannot recall if even said anything whenever "Familygate" was ongoing).
No one is perfect. We are all flawed. I may be wrong but I didn't / don't see any indicators of her being crazy. 
If anything she is the sane one in this group.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 06, 2018, 08:40:12 pm
Samantha trashes Doria also. And Doria just ignores it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 07, 2018, 03:14:22 am
It's no Sacrifice! Sir Elton John 'cancels two gigs to make sure he can attend Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding'
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The 70-year-old singing icon has reportedly pulled the plug on two Las Vegas concerts of his Million Dollar Piano residency at Caesars Palace on May 18 and 19 so that he can attend or even perform at the glittering nuptials on May 19 - should he be invited.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5360755/Sir-Elton-John-cancels-two-gigs-make-Royal-Wedding.html#ixzz56O3AoZBa
Elton's a huge football fan who'll be at the stadium watching the FA Cup in person, imo.

I think that MM wanted to become a brand ambassador like Millie Makintosh, Kittie Spencer, etc, those who attend high end fashion shows and have collaberations with fashion brands. Latching onto Harry, she thought, would give her the high profile that'll attract high brow brands to her. All she's gotten, is mid-brow brands and events that deal with vunerable youth organizations. Being involved with a prince hasn't gotten her the elite private dinner parties, hob nobbing with the aristocrats and attending exclusive parties covered in Tatler magazine. She must really be ticked off now that she's not getting what she wants or expects in her position only more of the same kind of events. There's also the fact that her past is being brought up during each article that comes out. There's still talk about her nudes. Harry wont be able to keep the press from printing them. It's a guarantee that they'll see the light of day. Just look at what happened to Kate and even Harry during his Vegas mess. Her nudes though would be from that movie she made in the UK where she played a model (Anti Social), and her just posing for them in a photoshoot; both scenarios she would've signed away her rights to control what happens to the images.
Kate has the life she wants. She gets the red carpet movie premiers, tours, high end  events and now fashion week duties in London.
I'm so glad the Olymics are a few days away to take this mess off the papers for a while unless it's done and dusted and her mess comes out within the next 2 days.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 07, 2018, 06:19:15 am
^  Red carpet and glitzy events are for the future queen - Kate. Mingling with plebs, vets, troubled youth and marginals is for whomever PH married. It's a surprise that MM didn't think of that in her calculations. :laugh:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 07, 2018, 07:08:50 am
Not a fan of red carpet and glitzy events, as it seems to attract narcissistic personality types. Overly self-important people, self-congratulatory, like to pat themselves on the back and tell other people how they should live.

Vets, troubled youths and marginals are much more interesting. Vets spent some time serving their country. Troubled youths need someone to reach out to them, to inspire them to do better even if they don't have the best life circumstances at the moment. And of course marginals need to feel like they matter, so it's important to visit them, too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 07, 2018, 07:39:50 am
Harry would have talked about his work with vets and the charities that were important to him with Meghan from the beginning. In their engagement interview they said they talked about those issues. People I know who served with Harry in the Army and when he was on air bases said even then he was keen to talk about vets and youth and health issues including Sentabale. One of them described him as intense about things.

So it's very very unlikely that anyone talking to or dating Harry for more than a couple of days would be left in any doubt about their importance to him. I can't imagine that he chatted about swanky parties and people schmoozing him. So I guess that Meghan knew from the start, certainly from the time they were serious, what the life would entail.

 Harry stated in the interview that they had had long talks, that he gave her warnings about the life she would enter into (the dull routine, the meetings with charities, engagements meeting youth and AIDS workers etc.) Things that every married in Royal has to know. I don't believe Meghan is under any illusions whatsoever.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: ohmy on February 07, 2018, 07:56:04 am
^^ I agree. they'll be fine. This time there isn't the "Princess School" narrative. I'm pretty sure it will not take a year for her to pick & commit to four charities :dontknow:. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 07, 2018, 08:54:47 am
Reports say that 8 min into the vets ceremony she already looked bored to death so I'm pretty sure that when PH talked about his charities she was envisioning R&R, Erdem and McQueen gowns on a red carpet and headlines in DM that she's better than Kate.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 07, 2018, 10:39:41 am
^ Reports that Meghan looked bored from whom? Tumblr sites perhaps but not mainstream media, and there are videos of her looking involved and interested. Plus Meghan wouldn't have envisioned red carpets to do with Sentabale in Lesotho, one of the poorest countries on earth and one that Harry would certainly have talked about. She was at the Invictus Games. No gala evenings  there either. Meghan will go to gala events in the future. That's part of the Royal role. However I don't believe Harry would have spoken about that side of Royal engagements much at all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 07, 2018, 03:30:42 pm
Doria is the sane one. And of course MM wants glamour events. Harry goes to them. But it would take a cruel hearted person to not be touched by the poor and vets, etc. when around them. She goes back to the Palace afterward. So she will play ball for those things but will be vying to get into the glamourous events. I think that is par for the course.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 07, 2018, 04:00:57 pm
All the royals are like that when you get right down to it. Harry and Meghan have limos and Palaces like the rest of them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 07, 2018, 04:16:08 pm
Meghan Markle ordered to pay a huge amount to move to the UK with Harry - this is why

MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry and set to wed in May, when Meghan will become a UK citizen. The Suits actress already lives in London - but it has been revealed the royal-to-be will have to pay a huge sum to move to the UK permanently.

Meghan Markle, 36, and Prince Harry, 33, may be two of the most famous faces in Britain, but they still have to abide by tax law like everybody else.

And the Suits actress will have to pay more than her other royal counterparts, thanks to the citizenship process.

Meghan, who has accumulated a net worth of $5 million or around £3.5m, will be charged two lots of taxes.

She currently resides in the UK on a family visa, however, the rules of this visa state she must marry within six months - according to the BBC.
Those who hope to move to the UK can only apply for permanent citizenship after five years.

After Meghan marries Harry she will have to renew the visa once every two a half years, so once if she intends to become a full UK citizen after five years is up.

Therefore, Meghan will pay taxes in the UK and to the American tax agency the IRS, even if she is earning in the UK.

Meghan earns royalties each time a show airs, meaning she could make money from her one big time TV role for years to come - however, she will be taxed on this income in the UK and US.

If she chooses to appear in any more magazines, like the Vanity Fair profile in which she publically addressed her romance with Harry for the first time, she will also be charged tax on her fee from the publication.

The Duchy of Cornwall, a private estate which Prince Charles controls, paid out £9.5 million to Harry in 2016 alone, an income Meghan will now likely share.

This, and other payouts from the royal purse, lined by taxpayer cash, are all taxed.

Meghan Markle’s sister has recently spoken out about her relationship with the former actress.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/915540/meghan-markle-prince-harry-news-uk-visa


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 07, 2018, 04:20:28 pm
^ So Harry get 9.5 million a year?    Or was this a one-off?    This is crazy money.     :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 07, 2018, 04:25:49 pm
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She currently resides in the UK on a family visa, however, the rules of this visa state she must marry within six months - according to the BBC.
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If she chooses to appear in any more magazines, like the Vanity Fair profile in which she publically addressed her romance with Harry for the first time, she will also be charged tax on her fee from the publication.
So she did get paid for her VF photoshoot and interview according to this article.
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The Duchy of Cornwall, a private estate which Prince Charles controls, paid out £9.5 million to Harry in 2016 alone, an income Meghan will now likely share.
WTF for?  ???
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/915540/meghan-markle-prince-harry-news-uk-visa
IMO, the tumblr blogs shouldn't be dismissed. They have videos and articles that won't necessarily be found in the mainstream UK press. She did look bored and fake and slightly rude during the Endevor awards to me. I laughed when Harry was more interested in taking the umbrella than assisting her up the stairs. Harry looked disinterested and annoyed with her.  
^^Fly beat me to it, but check out the two interesting tidbits.  :cookie:
I've never heard of a family visa, so she's most likely just using her passport to enter the uk where she can stay for 90 days without a visa. At least the press is now taking about meatier stuff like visa and tax issues. I'd be curious if she's getting paid for her merchandising because each appearance, the press has what she's wearing the minute she comes not view.
^it's mad money. Will there be an account as to how it's spent; why he was given such a large sum?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 07, 2018, 05:04:06 pm
^ According to tumblr sites MM is paid for those pap stolls but through a third party - JM. Apparently JM opened a PR company that helps companies go to new markets - mainly US, Canada and UK. JM signs the brands, MM merches them and PH holds the hand of his beloved innocent lamb  :king:

@Rosella, I did see videos where MM was booed on the first engagement, where MM disregarded the black dj on the second engagement but Harry stopped her, where she looked bored out of her mind on the third one when the main cameras were not on her. These things, whether deserved or not will not make it to the mainstream media because the knight in shining armor will jump to defend his damsel in distress who is not treated with the utmost fawning by the media.

@lesken, I'm on the fence about Doria.  If MM grew up on the set of Married with Children (I love the show) where was she when MM was growing up and who raised such a self-absorbed and ungrateful woman. She apparently has millions yet didn't bail her mommy, her daddy or her sister. If MM was really proud to be both she would have bought a house to her mom in a nice neighborhood like all the rappers do. But she didn't so - who raised her so ungrateful. On the other hand she was poised and dignified - on IG for display but not participating in the show and she's quiet which apparently for some is a virtue, and I agree but as they say - everyone loves peace and quiet but if you have a toddler in the house quiet is suspicious.

^^^ Now that we all know how much PH makes a year the blackmailing party can begin.  :akasha:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on February 07, 2018, 05:17:02 pm
^^Hm.  Interesting.  It sounds like the 9.5m is a cya one-off to prevent future US taxation if dispersed once vs they’re married, to me.  If not, and that money is given to PH each year, which I doubt, she’d be taxed by the IRS on either the whole thing if they file jointly or 50% at a higher rate if filed singly.  It will be a lot either way.  The IRS will lop off 35+% right off the bat and then she still has State Taxes on any residuals and California is about 30%.  So, a hosing, as we say.  An audit seems likely in 2019.  It would be a lack of due diligence on the IRS’ part not to.

What’s true is that upon marriage, the IRS will have full access to all monies including Harry’s.  There’s no way around it until she becomes a full citizen of the UK and even then the US tax code can hit every dime in residuals, worldwide, because those earned dollars originated in the US. 

And that doesn’t even include the high cost of tax attorneys that have to be US citizens and answerable to the US Treasury as long as she is a citizen.

Good luck with all that, Sparkles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 07, 2018, 05:20:29 pm
'I don't know these people': Meghan Markle 'denied knowing her own half-brother when he asked for help dealing with media'
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Tom Markle said he reached out to his half-sister in a touching letter, to congratulate her on her engagement to Prince Harry, 33, and apologize if his personal had 'caused you any embarrassment'.
But Markle says Meghan, 36, never responded to his heartfelt note.
And when her half-brother attempted to reach her by contacting the palace of her soon-to-be-in-laws, he learned she wanted nothing to do with him.
He told InTouch that his lawyer, who had been communicating with the palace to ask for assistance with dealing with the press, had forwarded him Meghan's reply.
'My lawyer had a phone meeting with her lawyer, and he emailed me some of her direct words. She said, 'That's distant family and I don't know those people.' That's pretty harsh,' he said.
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It appears a palace spokesperson put him in touch with a lawyer, but Markle told him that he could not afford their recommended legal representation after moving house so many times.
Tom Markle's own lawyer had previously warned him in October that: 'I don't think there will be any improvement with the media unless you talk to your sister.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5363311/Meghan-Markle-denied-knowing-half-brother.html#ixzz56RWIJ9dC
So much for her being a humanitarian. Charity starts at home.  :cookie:  One could say that he's a grown man that shouldn't have his hand out, bt it's sad when she dismisses him outright like that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 07, 2018, 05:40:35 pm
Looks pretty bored to me or sedated  :tehe:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/06/16/48CDE0E900000578-5358729-image-m-8_1517934552559.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 07, 2018, 05:53:44 pm
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'That's distant family and I don't know those people.' That's pretty harsh,' he said.

That explains harry "the family she never had" comments  :tehe:

The markle family should leave things be Meghan wants nothing to do with them .the dad side of her family are crap who all have family we don't mess with.all of them just need to shut it and go away
 she don't mess with the mom side either cause the uncle said she dropped them when she got on suits


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 07, 2018, 06:11:47 pm
^And whose fault is that she dropped her family on both sides.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 07, 2018, 06:51:07 pm
It proves that she's a social climber who's willing to drop family, friends, boyfriends, colleagues, husbands, etc, who's not beneficial to her anymore. I looks bad that he's asking for a handout, but it equally looks bad that she's denying knowing him, actually "these people."
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yellow spiderbite, Yoddles, New Zealand, less than a minute ago
How can someone deny knowing their half siblings?? With photo proof to the contrary? That¿s cold.

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Annie, Cardiff, about a minute ago
These people, how patronising

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Barbara, Monterey, United States, 2 minutes ago
I am not surprised. She can't help him because she might have to let go of Harrys arm to do anything. She would dump her mother if need be too.

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Just moi, London, 6 minutes ago
Don¿t like her and never will. I have a sister I¿ve not spoken with in about 12 years (we did not grow up together and she was a tear away) but I still include her in my sibling count, I could never be so cruel to deny her full stop.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5363311/Meghan-Markle-denied-knowing-half-brother.html#ixzz56RukoV1a
This family isn't going away. It looks like this whole thing went on in October last year, so why is this being realeased now? I hope that this is the begining of the end because no matter what, she denied knowing her own family and that's the bad part no matter how hillbillie they are. It seems sice she got Suits, she distanced herself from her family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 07, 2018, 06:52:55 pm
Countdown to the Royal Wedding: A Guide to Meghan Markle's New Life in London
Two years ago, Meghan Markle was living a pretty ordinary life…for an actress, at least.

She had settled into a cozy house in a quiet neighborhood of Toronto, where Suits is filmed, and when she wasn't on set she was able to go about her life with relative anonymity.

Unless you are a devoted watcher of the USA drama, you'd be forgiven for not recognizing her as she walked down the street. Which is exactly what she often did, whether it was to pop over to her local juice store, Revitasize, her favorite restaurant, Bar Isabel, or to walk her dogs in Bickford Park. She was the kind of celebrity who only occasionally was stopped by fans asking for a quick selfie or to say hello.
http://www.eonline.com/news/912131/countdown-to-the-royal-wedding-a-guide-to-meghan-markle-s-new-life-in-london


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 07, 2018, 07:08:49 pm
No one is coming out a winner in the Markle Family Debacle.   Meggles doesn't owe her siblings a pay out.  Nor does she owe them help with dealing with the media.   However, the way it seems she has cut all members of her family off with such speed and resolution does not say much for her character, either.  They are all cut from the same cloth, imo.

Doria?  I still don't know why people think that Doria is all that.  Maybe we can get more of a feel of what makes her tick if she is invited to the wedding.   



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 07, 2018, 07:12:31 pm
^^^Exactly. We all have family members we'd rather not associate with but it's cold and heartless to cut off ties with family members because one thinks they are superior.
^* i.e. largely unknown


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 07, 2018, 07:48:38 pm
Lastofthesummerwine., Oldham, United Kingdom, 13 minutes ago

I wonder how many people commenting on this article have actually read it . They are insulting this poor man when all he is asking for is for help dealing with the press that appear to be camping on his doorstep. She has refused to help by saying she doesn't know who he is which is untrue. She didn't like it when she was being hounded by the press ( That is if she was) because she got Harry to put out that statement telling the press to leave her alone. Yet here she is refusing to help her half brother who didn't ask for the press to hound him like they have. I know you sycophants don't like any comments that criticize her but you can't deny that what I have said is true. If she was a true humanitarian then she would help her half brother no matter how how long ago it was since she last saw him and no matter what has gone on in the past.

Cindy, Houston TEXAS, United States, 18 minutes ago

We all have that one relative....or two or three. I have one very awful sister whom I've completely cut off ties with. She got a POA and proceeded to sell my mother's home and then bought one for herself while my mother was in the hospital. It doesn't get trashier or more evil than that. But, I couldn't very well say I don't know who she is. I do - and MeAgain knows who her half-brother is. Doesn't mean she has to associate with him but don't claim you have no idea who it is. That is pretty wrong if you ask me. Tell the truth - that you can't stand the person - but don't outright lie.



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Fergie is a class act AND Carole a dignified woman - next to Meghan... She spent her teenage years and early 20s around her father and half-siblings - in fact she LIVED with them


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 07, 2018, 08:12:03 pm
Meghan Markle's Half-Brother Tom Said "She Ignored My Plea For Help" (EXCLUSIVE)
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"My lawyer had a phone meeting with her lawyer, and he emailed me some of [Meghan’s] direct words. She said, ‘That’s distant family and I don’t know those people.’ That’s pretty harsh," Tom tells In Touch, calling it "a slap in the face" and "below the belt."
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"My attorney was reaching out to her people and the palace to basically [help us] try to get a retraction for all these false stories in [countries] where there are different laws," he tells In Touch. But despite his lawyer’s pleas for the palace to “take some action to protect him,” emails show that a rep from Harry’s office simply told him, “I am so sorry to hear you have been having a tough time with the media."
http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/meghan-markle-half-brother-tom-markle-153334
There're picures of the emails dating 31 October, 2017 and 10 December, 2017. KP distanced themselves from this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 07, 2018, 08:20:44 pm
 There's not much to say about this other than she's an awful woman she really is. Maybe I'm misspoke on another thread when I said she can't be that cool hearted that she ignore poor people or vets in front of her. If Harry is not around or the press she probably does.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 08, 2018, 05:12:20 am
Sorry, but siblings/half-siblings are not "distant" family. You could say you're not close or had a falling out or something, but distant family would be a distant cousin (2nd cousin, 3rd cousin) or something like that. Nothing "distant" about sharing a parent.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 08, 2018, 06:56:55 am
That supposed statement from Meghan in regard to Tom and whoever else was complaining with him -defacto wife, I suppose-- is like a version of Chinese whispers, conveyed to his lawyer through hers and who knows how many other people as well.

Meghan has tried ignoring Tom, through all the well-meaning statements, through the artless selling of photos and info on their father's address given to the media, through the extraordinarily embarrassing front pages of British tabloids regarding guns and drink and spats with his girlfriend. It hasn't worked. Having happily worked with the media in the weeks before the engagement he's found, as many have before him, that the British tabloids are relentless and can't be ignored and dropped when you want.

Now, if I were Meghan I would get Tom's phone number from my father or whoever, and phone him. Thrash things out in a civilised way, tell him he has been embarrassing to her and unfortunately he won't be coming to the wedding, nor can she help financially. Meghan could explain, as a good will gesture, that she and her lawyers will do their best to get the British editors off his back. She will have to explain however that Britain has a free Press and there is a limit to whatever appeals they can make to editors. After all, even married ins haven't been protected from running the gauntlet in Britain.

Vague statements through third parties of whatever nature doesn't look good. The Markle family is poor and will continue on as it has done if something isn't done. If a phone call isn't made then a short and dignified statement could be made from Meghan via KP stating that unfortunately family circumstances have been such that she hasn't been in touch with Tom or Samantha (or her father's family) for many years, and therefore any comments they may make about her are valueless.

He appears to be a rather good natured individual on the whole and if things are directly explained the begging bowl might be put away and he just might keep quiet, unlike his viperish sister, Samantha.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 08, 2018, 07:23:25 am
This article came out after an article that MM has been dropping people in her circle by sending messages via third parties. Sounds legit.

And unfortunately MM can't have it both ways. She can't claim that she's with noble heritage through her father and disregard the very family members that share with her this royal lineage. She can't pretend her siblings don't exist yet demand from them via personal call, lawyers' messages, or KP statement that they do her bidding. She is not the boss of them. In fact, she's so much like them that the embarrassed people should the PH and the brf, not MM.

If MM can leak her engagements, her dress designer, what tiara she wants for the wedding, where she want to be on Christmas well... her family can do the same. If she can make money off of sleeping with a royal like merching and now a movie role, so can her siblings sell pictures and write books and what not. Looking at Sam's money appetites and Tom's dysfunctional behaviors, doing the math that MM was not around her family for only 6 years out of 36 (the 6 years of filming in Toronto), it makes the saying "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" ring home imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 08, 2018, 08:15:28 am
Most of this is tabloid garbage! When did Meghan ever claim 'noble heritage' or state that she is going to drop people? Have you heard her do so?  That rubbish was in tabloid articles. What proof is there that she has leaked anything, about her wedding attire, dress designer, (that proved to be false anyway) or merching? (The Daily Fail has put the price of clothing worn by Kate, Pippa and countless other celebrities in article segments for years. That has nothing to do with the people concerned in the article.)

What movie role has Meghan gained? The film being made about her and Harry's romance is being made by the same people that made the film just before Kate and William's marriage. The Cambridges didn't commission that film and Harry and Meghan haven't commissioned this one. It won't star Meghan nor will she be making money from it.

Making money from sleeping with a Royal? When? Meghan is Harry's fiancee and soon to be wife. Many people soon to be married sleep together as do those dating seriously. There is a difference between a casual girlfriend and a fiancee.

There seems to be an assumption on this forum that every rumour printed by online sites and the tabloid press in Britain about celebs and royals is the truth and nothing but the truth, and comes straight from the person involved themselves. Well it doesn't!

9/10th of the time it's either made up by the so-called journalist concerned or has a tiny grain of truth that's been expanded. Tumblr sites are worse, much worse as often what appears on them is pure fiction and vindictive lies. What's more, unlike newspapers, they can't be hauled before the Press Commission and be forced to retract.

Tom Markle left home early, in his teens. So did Samantha. There were irregular family get togethers which they have talked about. The last time Samantha saw Meghan was at Samantha's graduation. Tom Markle hasn't seen Meghan on a regular basis  since she was a young teenager, as the photos that he so gladly shared with the media show.

 There was irregular contact, a phone call or two, a family get together every now and again until there was a big bust up between Tom Markle Snr and his son about seven years ago. Meghan saw them irregularly if at all through her twenties and into her thirties, so it's quite untrue that the Markles were a close and loving family until Meghan got Suits. From all I've read, and it's been considerable, nothing could be further from the truth!

If it isn't the truth then why did Tom Jnr come out just recently and say (words from his own mouth) that his sons didn't 'deserve to go to Meghan's wedding' because 'they hadn't seen her since they were children.' End quote. As they are now grown men where were all the supposed happy Markle family meetings?   

The trouble with making money from your relatives whom you haven't seen for years, sometimes decades, is that sooner or later you run out of photos, videos, memories, material. And then it has to stop.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 08, 2018, 01:37:49 pm
On MM's wiki you can see that she's claiming royal heritage through her father. She's been very thorough in documenting all public displays of her status with PH on her wiki page so it's safe to suppose that she is making that claim.

Since the beginning of her relationship with PH she's been dropping hints. First on instagram, then on blind gossip, now on specific twitter accounts. Just because she didn't go out and make an interview about it you can tell that she's been sending messages. EA for example knows her itinerary before the CC announces it. That should speak volumes about leaking info that shouldn't be leaked. Maybe PH is in on this, maybe he's not but if CC's job is to announce things for BRF, then EA is not the best person to leak beforehand so that the american tourists can go and make a crowd.

The only reason MM is interesting in any way is because of PH. Unfortunately she does not have star power and whatever money she makes by promoting certain brands - she's making them because of her association with PH, not because people are interested in her. If, hypothetically, PH was dating Riri people will continue to buy whatever she wears because of Her, not because of who she is with.

I have zero doubt that MM is making money off of wearing certain brands during official events with PH. The legality of it and the morality of it are completely different from the fact that she had a website dedicated to making money off of writing articles for brands, the clothing line she was promoting - these are all stepping stones to what she's doing now. She is a hustler - if she sees opportunity to take money she'll take them.

I also have zero doubt that she's obsessed with status. If she wasn't it wouldn't matter at all if she attended the Christmas walk or not regardless if she was in UK or not. If she was in it for the long haul one Christmas more or less wouldn't matter at all but to her it did. It wouldn't even matter if she wears 75K dress or a simple dress for her engagement as long as she's standing next to the man of her life. But to her it did. What I'm questioning here is MM's motives for marrying into the brf.

One more thing - it doesn't matter if you keep in touch with your family every day or once in a blue moon - at important events like weddings and funerals you invite them all not because they are deserving - because these events are not about whoever is at the center of them. They are about showing respect to the ones that come before you. I have not spoken to my mother for 15 years. I literally want to punch my step father in the face when I see him. Still they got invitations to my wedding so speaking from personal experience. The wedding is not about the bride or bridezilla. It's about honoring the ones that meant something for you, who were there when you needed them and especially the family whether you like them today or not.

MM not inviting her family is ungrateful at least.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 08, 2018, 01:57:57 pm
Anyone at all can edit someone's Wikki page.

We don't know that Meghan's half brother and half sister were there for her 'when she needed them'. In fact the opposite seems to be true as far as Samantha is concerned. She has alternately trashed her and praised her every since the news broke of Meghan's romance with Prince Harry. As for the rest of the family, Samantha's younger daughter (Samantha is estranged from all her children) has stated in the article below that Tom Snr gave/lent Samantha sums of money which she squandered and did not pay back. So perhaps Samantha should start taking her own advice about family obligations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4384654/My-mom-Meghan-Markle-s-sister-hates-Harry-s-girl.html

It's almost certain that Meghan's parents will be attending her wedding, as well as maybe a niece and other relatives. So her parents, who 'were there for her' unlike her absent half-siblings, will be present to see her married in 100 days time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 08, 2018, 02:18:31 pm
 You can try and make all the excuses for her you want but the fact is her father's family is white trash and she acts like that too.  Trash in the royal family is what the end result is. But Harry wants this and the rest of the Royal family is looking the other way or embracing it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 08, 2018, 02:27:54 pm
Harry and the members of the BRF have met Meghan including the Queen. We haven't. I do not believe that Meghan has behaved in a trashy way. Her half-siblings certainly have. Believing everything about a person that appears in the Fail or on Tumblr sites isn't necessarily the way to discover the truth about someone.

Anyway, Samantha is at it again, attacking her brother Tom. She says Tom hasn't seen Meghan since childhood.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/02/08/13/15/samantha-markle-slams-brother-thomas-markle

And if Meghan proves to be a useful and hardworking member of the BRF and she and Harry have a long, fruitful and happy marriage? What do you say then?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 08, 2018, 02:36:59 pm
^^ Yep, yep, down to the gun shots at a NYE party

^^^ Sam has a progressive mental health issue. Good or bad she needs help and that includes financial help. If Tom Jr helped her financially it should have been because he can and because she's family not because he's a loan shark or a bank. A lot of people put money first and family second and that's wrong. Sam just as M is product of H'wood and if there's opportunity for easy money by selling information she will do it just like her sister used the press to campaign for Christmas walk invitation and a ring. Sam, unlike M has probably lost at least partially her health care coverage and needs money. Deteriorating mental and physical health is a huge strain and financial pit for any family. Instead of judging her for selling info on M, I choose to support her in that. She's just trying to survive on her own while her family abandoned her as a burden, not only M but also Tom Jr. And don't get me started on Sam's daughter. Becoming born is not a given. At least for that she needs to be grateful for her mom and not drop her like unwanted baggage, whether she's perfect or not.

^ I said it already - to me the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I read tumblr because it's entertaining. There's a new spin on things every few hours. But I created my opinion about M based on her playing games behavior, obvious lies in the engagement interview, the carefully curated inappropriate attires. I do not wish unhappiness to anyone but I don't think they'll be happy with each other for long.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 08, 2018, 03:04:40 pm
Sometimes it is not the illness, it is someone being just plain mean and nasty.  I don't think Samantha is a nice person.

Harry is a willing participant and he chose her to marry. All the scheming in the world can not force a man to marry someone.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 08, 2018, 03:12:35 pm
Meggles will not be a useful or hardworking member of the BRF, and she and Harry will not be a compatible pair.   Meggles' track record with regard to work and how she has made her money and career moves speak to the one.  Meggles' narcissism and Harry's immaturity speak to the other.

This is not a compatible match.  They are not soul mates.  It is a disaster for both of them.  I could almost feel sorry for them, but they kinda deserve what's going to happen, so . . . bring on the popcorn.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 08, 2018, 03:20:20 pm
Although I try to respect different points of views, I just find it very difficult to believe that people are so blindly loyal to MM. She’s proven herself to be contradictory and manipulative. It’s not wishing I’ll will to know that they won’t be happy should they actually get married. I’ve been giving Harry and the royal the benefit of the doubt and expect this two bit strumpet to get booted out of the UK with regret at going on this course with Harry.
I find it odd that her half brother had to get a lawyer to speak with her lawyer. Why are lawyers being brought into this?
Now there are more gossip sights hinting to her past that’s not flattering and more gossip shows talking about how she’s a pro. It’s like the press is gearing up for her unsavory past/present will be unleashed and all her smut splashed across the world. She’s got something she wants to hide. Too bad she’s under the dilution that Harry can stop that from coming out.
^ :thumbsup: 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 08, 2018, 03:40:05 pm
 Well the press maybe hinting about something but I think if there was something really bad it would have been out by now.  That is not to say there are not enough bad things out already  She is awful. The more the more I read the more I think that. Harry is the willing participant but that's because she has them under some sexual spell that will not last forever.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 08, 2018, 05:44:58 pm
I can't imagine what bad would come out about Megs, I don't think she has a sex tape. Nudes? Maybe, but her naked body is no different than any other woman so nothing special there. If nudes were to come out, people would go look and the would last for two days tops and then onto the next thing in life.  :dontknow:

I just love what Ariel said about Megs and status. Although, I think Harry asked the Queen if Megs could be at the Xmas luncheon and church walk.

Harry is the ultimate status symbol, what else could be higher, unless Megs became a U.S. President. Megs will forever be in the history books as a BRF princess by marriage, and I doubt she would want to be a divorced royal in those history books. The press will always photograph her and talk about her merched frocks, which she enjoys now. Megs will pop out two children and be content with her offspring's titles.  :thumbsup:

I also have zero doubt that she's obsessed with status. If she wasn't it wouldn't matter at all if she attended the Christmas walk or not regardless if she was in UK or not. If she was in it for the long haul one Christmas more or less wouldn't matter at all but to her it did. It wouldn't even matter if she wears 75K dress or a simple dress for her engagement as long as she's standing next to the man of her life. But to her it did. What I'm questioning here is MM's motives for marrying into the brf.

I don't like her behavior in public. She acts as if people are there to see her, which they are, but only because of her being engaged to Harry. Show some humility and just be yourself, Megs, you already got the job. Whatever she or Kate wears will always be talked about, but why not stump the press and wear a dress that's 50 to 100 pounds and bought at Debenhams or Marks & Spencer.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 08, 2018, 07:42:21 pm
^ The bad that could come out about Meggles is what she had to do to get her spot on the suitcase game show and on Suits.   With the daily reports coming out of Hollywood on the sexual pervision/immorality/assaults, I think it stands to reason that Meggles had to "play ball" in the sordid pit of show business.   


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 08, 2018, 09:23:54 pm
Of course she paid the bill but why would the other party say anything. That could get them prosecuted.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: FrederickLouis on February 08, 2018, 10:27:01 pm
Did Prince Harry truly ask Tom Markle for Meghan's hand in marriage?   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z5EU1ClzdI


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 09, 2018, 05:30:07 am
So sick of these 2 already and they're not even married yet. Although I do think they deserve each other. But the people deserve better. BRF isn't even trying to choose admirable spouses anymore


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 09, 2018, 02:45:33 pm
It's a tradition when the girl is living with the parents and still under their care. To do it when a girl is 36 divorced and clearly beyond the care of her parents is just being traditional for the sake of being traditional. Rather he should have asked her ex-husband although he's no longer her provider either.  for a guy that's breaking tradition right and left it is ridiculous that he needs to be so traditional on this especially when no one's going to tell him no


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: AnaBolena on February 09, 2018, 03:47:38 pm
Not sure what I think of Meghan yet, but it appears her entire family are seriously messed up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 09, 2018, 04:02:55 pm
^so are the Windsors (including harry)... and meghan herself being so crazy to marry into this family... also not says much good about her


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 09, 2018, 04:15:30 pm
Tbh I don't like this whole "asking the father for his daughter's hand" thing. It's quite pointless... Firstly, it stems from a time when women were literally men's property (not too long ago! that was still true in the 19th and part of the 20th century!), hence the asking (as marriage was then a "transfer" of property and you can't steal someone's property, can you?); secondly, what if the father says "no"? He doesn't like his daughter's boyfriend (perhaps with very very good reason, not trying to make this hypothetical father seem like a mean guy), and declines. What then?

I like the Swedish tradition of bride and groom walking down the aisle together (this is an old tradition, since the 17th or so century, perhaps even much older than that!), because this is supposed to signal to the community that it is the bride and groom's decision to get married and start a life together, and no one forced them (hence the somewhat "scandal" when Vic & Madde chose to be walked down by their father, it was was seen as reverting to the old understanding of "property" and not modern, so a compromise was made, CG walked them down half the aisle and their grooms walked the remainder with their brides).
As opposed to the father walking down his daughter, which again, was to ensure and show that the transfer of property is in accordance with what the men decided.. (though I think the walking down the aisle thing is sweet, whereas the asking for the hand is imo truly pointless, not even as much backwards as it is -simply- pointless!).

Also I find that if someone wants to ask (to be respectful or traditional or whatever their reasoning), they should ask mum & dad, not just dad. It's not a transfer of property anymore, so neither parent has a greater claim on their child; it's both their child, they both raised it (her) and love their child; and not to step on any man's toes, but often the mother did more work than the father, so if anything it should be the mother who's asked, if we ask only one parent.

And in H&M's case, I'd say no, H did not ask M's father. He's never met the man and seems like father and daughter aren't on the best of terms anyway. Supposedly the skyped, but still. Besides, it's M's second marriage, so asking for permission is really really pointless, even pointlessier than usual!

^ Both families seem very dysfunctional! Should make for fun holidays and a fun life! :James:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 09, 2018, 04:55:18 pm
Wendy Williams dubs Meghan Markle a 'random princess' as she reveals Prince Harry's bride-to-be once applied for a job on her talk show

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5372561/Wendy-Williams-dubs-Meghan-Markle-random-princess.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 09, 2018, 05:08:56 pm
I read PH asked both parents. And nowadays in the USA both parents walk the bride down the aisle or a brother or son or even a daughter if the parents are dead and the child is older. A nine or ten year old Prince Henry walked Catherine of Aragon down the aisle when she married Prince Arthur. Don't know who walked her when she married him later on. But being such a feminist MM doesn't need her parents permission to marry him nor anyone to walk her down the aisle. They use tradition when it suits them and discards it when it doesn't which I guess is their prerogative. But the permission thing is a property right tradition and she should have told him not to ask on principal. I wonder if her first husband bothered to ask. I doubt it since they were living together for so long. Parents were probably relieved if they even care that she marry or not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 09, 2018, 05:26:22 pm
There’s talk on the blogs that she’s not wearing her ring. It does look like that in the video posted within the DM article and screencap from the Endeavour Awards.  It doesn’t look like she has it on or when she briefly held onto him going up the stairs. She had it in when they left the venue though. I know it doesn’t fit her, but I don’t expect her to ever take it off.
https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/170679829816/here-is-another-screen-grab-no-ring



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 09, 2018, 05:37:27 pm
That is odd it doesn't fit her except if she has lost weight and now has to have it adjusted. She was pretty thin as most actresses are. Can't see where she could lose weight.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 09, 2018, 06:10:31 pm
I wasn't sure where to post this, maybe there could be a Princess Sparkles: Press Articles and Random Chat before the wedding.  :tehe:

OMG everyone
Why would Meghan try to work on Wendy Williams at the time when she was engaged? Maybe the article meant December 2016?
But watch the video clip of Megs on an episode of 90210.  :nervous:  :ick:

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/wendy-williams-meghan-markle-applied-to-work-on-my-show/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 09, 2018, 06:23:48 pm
^it was prior to Harry that she tried to get on the WW show. Yeah, a pro at work there in that bj video.  :ick:
https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com

https://jerseydeanne.tumblr.com/post/170689584521/this-is-very-bad-for-her-these-are-two-different
This could be true.  ???

This craziness has to come to an end. Is it too much to ask for that to happen before Monday?
WW article is still high up on the DM site that I’m wondering if this is the preview before the main event. Whatever’s going to break about MM, I think WW will be front and centre discussing it full detail on her show and the DM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 09, 2018, 06:56:44 pm
Well, Catherine of Aragon was her son's property :) A female was always the property of the closest male to her. The husband, if he was dead then her son's, or if no son then back to being her father's; if unmarried, then the father, or married and dad's dead, huband's dead and son's dead or never had a son, the brother, if no brother then her paternal uncle and on and on and on.... In some cases women were "emancipated"; I think mostly widows.... This changes in the course of history somewhat, women were always emancipated, or partly, then shackled back, then somewhat emancipated... Also all depending not only on which era we talk about, but also which country... Can't say that women ever had it easy :(


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 09, 2018, 07:27:06 pm
^^I didn't even know that the Wendy Williams bit was on the DM today.  :tehe: The DM article didn't give a time frame as to when Megs was trying to apply to be on Wendy's show like the US Weekly article did. December 2017 doesn't seem accurate. I just can't imagine what Megs could do on the Wendy Williams show, did she just want an interview?  :- There aren't any suitcases on Wendy  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 09, 2018, 07:44:54 pm
There was talk that MM called WW sometime before the news broke of her dating H that she wanted to be interviewed by WW, or some story like that. Tbh I didn't follow all that closely. Could be that MM applied for a job at WW before she landed on Suits.

^^^ The rings look the same to me!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 09, 2018, 08:17:29 pm
WW said it herself in one of her shows that before M started dating PH she herself called her to try and get on her show as a guest but didn't.

After the engagement WW talked about MM a few times but in a dismiasive way - not a bad dismissive just not really interresting to talk about kind of dismissive.

John Oliver yesterday was a guest at Stephen Colbert (comedians with M's type of political bias so maybe M is watching them too) and instead of gushing over M becoming part of brf he advised her to back away from the wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 09, 2018, 08:45:44 pm
^ That's it!

Curious that "her kind of people" are all like "don't do this!" :think:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 09, 2018, 10:29:19 pm
Most celebrities of a left leaning political persuasion, at least in the UK, are republican not monarchists so of course they're going to advise against marrying into the Royal Family in interviews etc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 09, 2018, 11:20:29 pm
I don't know that is true. Most entertainers/actresses are liberal and many would think it is wonderful to marry into the BRF. I know Reese Witherspoon was gushing when waity got married and wanted an invite. She did get to a polo game they attended when out here. I imagine Reese is not conservative. She probably thinks it is fantastic for MM. Some people might get that it will not be a cake walk for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 09, 2018, 11:53:03 pm
From my experience of living in Britain for decades on and off I think there's a difference between many liberal lefties in Hollywood who have a Hollywood type view of the British royals, and actors/entertainers/commentators in Britain who vote Labour and are not monarchist, though they sometimes keep quiet about their political views.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: AnaBolena on February 10, 2018, 03:23:53 pm
^so are the Windsors (including harry)... and meghan herself being so crazy to marry into this family... also not says much good about her
True, true!  She should fit in well, but I'm finding it hard to view Harry as being happy long term - I hope I'm wrong.

HRHOlya, I agree with you - both walking down the aisle together in Swedish tradition would be a pleasant change.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 10, 2018, 05:05:03 pm
@rosella I was thinking Hollywood not UK entertainers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 10, 2018, 06:46:23 pm
Harry is foolish to think that Meg is going to take him places.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 10, 2018, 06:59:03 pm
^She can only take him to the gutter.  :ick:
IMO, she’s definitely being used. We may never know how or why this woman’s still around, but I still maintain that Harry’s covering up for someone more senior than him and making her look bad in the press. The article regarding her not knowing her brother indicated that KP isn’t involved and he continuation of unflattering press continues with the Wendy Williams and Millie Mackintosh being her wedding planner.
Perhaps this farce has been dragged out because of this?
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5371027/amp/Daily-Mirror-owner-buys-Daily-Star-Daily-Express.html
The DM and Express has been playing up this “romance” since the beginning and has made a killing off of the advertisin. Also, they’d lift articles from the Express, Daily Star and OK make an article in the DM. This has gotten more people to visit their site and boost revenue. Less reporters digging into the rich and the royal family’s business now.
At the end of the day, she has no royal support and is no future royal bride, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 10, 2018, 07:52:46 pm
As I said before Harry himself is no saint, and an HRH does not automatically confer sainthood on any of them. The Queen approved of the marriage and the date set. If there was not going to be a marriage, the engagement would never have happened IMO. I think Meghan is another royal bride to be with her kin going to the media and trying to become "famous."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 10, 2018, 11:03:02 pm
Only kin I can think of is Waity's uncle and he was not trying to  get in the media with his drug deals. MM family is the white trash that is vying for media attention and have since she was dating PH. Interesting enough, although MM pretended she didn't know much about PH before dating him, the family she doesn't talk to knew enough without her to start getting press off of him at the onset of their going public. So again her feigning ignorance is ridiculous and shows what a phony she really is. She is doing the same. And yes anyone that PH dated or married would get attention, but she seems to deliberately attract it more with her marketing and all. She is awful awful awful. And PH is under a spell but will wake up one day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 11, 2018, 04:33:52 am
Re: The Wendy Williams thing...

Back when news of them dating broke, Wendy said on her show that a few weeks before the statement from KP was released MM contacted her show to try getting booked. She told Wendy's producers something to the affect of "I'm going to be the hottest ticket in town in a few weeks" but they didn't bite. Recently, Wendy made the comment about her trying to get a job on the show. If this is true, I'm guessing at one time MM tried to get booked as a lifestyle/fashion/cooking segment expert. It would make sense considering she did the same thing with the Today show and her blog.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 11, 2018, 09:58:46 am
Republican businessman is branded a ‘sick creep’ after posting a picture of Cheddar Man superimposed onto Meghan Markle's face
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Republican businessman Paul Nehlen was branded 'sick' and a 'creep' after superimposing a picture of Cheddar Man onto Meghan Markle's face.
The tweet sparked an online backlash, with Meghan's Suits co-star Patrick J. Adams calling him 'a sad and sick man with no sense of shame or class'. 
'Get a life,' he said. 'And don’t go anywhere near MM – she’s got more power, strength, honour and compassion in her fingernail than you’ll ever know in this lifetime. Way above your weight class.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5377641/Paul-Nehlen-slammed-racist-Meghan-Markle-tweet.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 11, 2018, 11:11:36 am
IMO A very sweet and supportive tweet for Meghan from Patrick Adams about that very ignorant and unfunny Cheddar Man jibe from the US businessman and would-be politician Paul Nehlen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 11, 2018, 02:13:11 pm
Here is a gossip blind about Meggles.  Certainly sounds like her.

http://blindgossip.com/?p=89821#more-89821



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kins on February 11, 2018, 02:17:03 pm
^ Funny how she has become paranoid about people using her when using people is how she got to where she is now. What goes around comes around I guess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 11, 2018, 03:14:39 pm
Meghan Markle 'undergoing lessons in etiquette and elocution at finishing school' ahead of wedding to Prince Harry - Mirror Online

With just four months to go until the Royal Wedding, it's thought that bride-to-be Meghan Markle has been preparing for her life as a royal with 'finishing lessons'.

It's been claimed the US actress, 36, is undergoing lessons in etiquette and elocution, and covering everything from table manners to how to dress.

She's also being taught techniques for how to properly get out of a car and how to socialise with foreign diplomats, according to the Daily Star.

A royal source reportedly told the newspaper: “There’ll be no stone unturned as in less than 12 weeks all eyes will be on her – there is no room for error.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-undergoing-lessons-etiquette-12006594


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 11, 2018, 04:47:20 pm
Good they realized she needs lessons, lots of them!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 11, 2018, 04:55:00 pm
Are these the lesson Kate had? Lol I hope not cause please don't let Meghan starting talking in a fake British accent like maddona or like that accent Lindsay Lohan  had going . I know over some she will pick up some words,but I think her voice and the way she speaks is fine .she speaks better then those in the BRF already


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 11, 2018, 06:26:06 pm
^^^^ She's polishing up her past, washing her dirty laundry and wants Harry to make an honest woman out of her and of course no one who really knows her and can talk is going to be invited. Too big of a risk for slip of the tongue. I can see why she's paranoid and quick to be afraid that her birds of a feather will talk. Let's see if chatty Priyanka will be happy to not receive an invite.

^ She already sported a uber fake British accent on the 2nd event.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 11, 2018, 07:41:11 pm
WOT??!!   Giving her lessons???   I thought Meggles informed the world that she was going to Frank Sinatra her way through royal life by Doing It Her Way ???

She spoke at the UN, dag nab it!   She don't need no lessons!!

 :James:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 11, 2018, 08:33:51 pm
Re: The Wendy Williams thing...

Back when news of them dating broke, Wendy said on her show that a few weeks before the statement from KP was released MM contacted her show to try getting booked. She told Wendy's producers something to the affect of "I'm going to be the hottest ticket in town in a few weeks" but they didn't bite. Recently, Wendy made the comment about her trying to get a job on the show. If this is true, I'm guessing at one time MM tried to get booked as a lifestyle/fashion/cooking segment expert. It would make sense considering she did the same thing with the Today show and her blog.

That sounds quite plausible.

^ Funny how she has become paranoid about people using her when using people is how she got to where she is now. What goes around comes around I guess.

 :thumbsup:

Re the lessons: good, etiquette lessons are only fair. Eloqution, I think she speaks well enough, but might be just called that but is actually additional training on how to get on with people when talking to them and really that's not so bad, even seasoned actors have those and Diana had also lessons for giving speeches and at the times she was at it for years (W&H were small children then, we all saw the tapes!).

If this is even true, but I guess it's more than a good possibility.

I bloody well hope Waity joins Murkles. She needs these lessons too, stat!!

I also hope Murkles doesn't come out of these lessons like Waity came out of her "princess lessons" before marriage: terrible behaviour, no decorum, flashing to this day, and unintelligible speech with an accent from fck knows where!

PS re the blind item: also exactly what not to do. "This is just to keep people at bay and keep them quiet. Ninety percent of them are going to be shocked when she does not invite them to the wedding. You would think that she would be trying to draw the people she knows closer to her so that they will feel more loyal to her. It is the opposite. She is actually pushing them away. She has become paranoid about everyone is using he"
The irony on her not wanting to be used, but my hunch (if this is true) is more that she considers herself above these people and sees herself as "royal" and will want to be exclusively with aristos and gazillionaires (likely not even other "royals", she'd then be on the same footing and not "above"!).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 11, 2018, 11:48:53 pm
Meghan Markle citizenship: Will Prince Harry’s bride lose American passport when she weds?
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Harry’s communications secretary has spoken about Meghan’s immigration status, and said she would be "compliant with immigration requirements at all times”.
He continued: “I can also say she intends to become a UK citizen and will go through the process of that, which some of you may know takes a number of years.”
At the moment, it is assumed Meghan is in the UK on a family visa, which lasts up to two and a half years.
If someone comes to the country as the fiancee of a British citizen, they must marry within six months.
Meghan would then have to apply for the visa again after the two and a half years is up, as individuals must wait five years before permanent residency is granted, also known as "indefinite leave to remain".
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/917355/meghan-markle-prince-harry-wedding-citizenship-uk-passport-british-american


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 12, 2018, 03:33:21 pm
 laws are very tight there about marriage.  my English cousin is having all sorts of trouble getting married to an American there although they plan to live in LA where they live now. But I didn't know what the big deal is about her becoming a British citizen because I would too in addition to keeping my American citizenship if I were Marrying an Englishman  let alone one in the Royal Family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 12, 2018, 05:28:18 pm
Marrying into the brf and keepign her american passport will mean 5 years of irs knowing all the ins and outs of PH's income. I can't imagine PC happy about that.

If upon marriage she's granted citizenahip while she renounves the US citizenship it will be a big scandal especially if irs are auditing her right now due to the expensive engagement dresses she wears despite having a job and because of the double standard for immigration for brf and everyone else...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 12, 2018, 05:51:29 pm
why would she renounce her US citizenship? If things don't work out, she will want it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on February 12, 2018, 06:57:30 pm
^Nobody gets it all.  My guess is it will take a while to attain full citizenship, or should, in her adopted country but there is no way that the BRF are going to want to have to allow unfettered IRS scrutiny of any part of their income and the US taxes, fed and State, are hefty.  Plus, the US and California will consider Harry and anything he’s associated with, responsible as well. 

Besides, if she’s so committed to leaving all behind and so crazy in love with her new role, a full citizenship is required or she’ll never belong.

If and when she wants back into the US, she’ll have to get in line.  For now?  Good riddance, I say.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 12, 2018, 07:22:34 pm
^^^^ She's polishing up her past, washing her dirty laundry and wants Harry to make an honest woman out of her and of course no one who really knows her and can talk is going to be invited. Too big of a risk for slip of the tongue. I can see why she's paranoid and quick to be afraid that her birds of a feather will talk. Let's see if chatty Priyanka will be happy to not receive an invite.

^ She already sported a uber fake British accent on the 2nd event.

Harry is no Mr Clean himself. His past is nothing to brag about. He's being made an "honest man" instead of slipping into a life of decadence like Prince Albert of Monaco had before he settled down.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 12, 2018, 07:31:05 pm
 either they will both make honest people out of each other as MM certainly needs that too based on her track record or they will be in an arranged decadent marriage or somewhere in between. However, based on their broken family backgrounds and she is already divorced from a long term beau they need therapy to make that marriage work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 12, 2018, 07:37:41 pm
i think marriage is more about the right person in right moment than family background


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 12, 2018, 09:20:36 pm
Yes and no. If you are raised in a broken home that affects you with or without the right person. Harry saw a lot of contention and so did she apparently. Her marriage did not work out even though her friends say she was head over heals in love with that husband. So the acorn does not fall far from the tree. Waity came from a solid background in terms of family togetherness and Wills liked that a lot and it settled him more so than just being with Waity. So I am not talking about cultural differences in terms of background. They need therapy. They may be getting it already.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 12, 2018, 10:12:49 pm
The Mirror reports that Meghan has made a couple of private visits to the Grenfell Tower victims.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-echoes-princess-diana-12015483


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 12, 2018, 10:44:08 pm
^I don't believe it. M is all for show off. She wouldn't do a thing without having a publicity.

^^ I see what you are saying and I agree.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 12, 2018, 10:45:22 pm
That is a positive thing she is doing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 12, 2018, 10:48:14 pm
Meghan Markle conducts secret visits to the site of the Grenfell Tower fire to comfort victims

Meghan Markle has visited the site of the Grenfell Tower fire secretly on a couple of occasions to comfort the victims of the tragedy.

According to an exclusive article in the Daily Mirror, Meghan has visited the site on her own on two occasions.

Speaking to The Mirror, one resident said: One ­resident said: “Meghan’s visits mean so much to us. She has a special place in our hearts.”

It is understood that the bride-to-be had been making numerous private visits to charity sectors around the UK to get to understand their work before marrying into The Royal Family in little under 100 days time.

On a visit to Grenfell, she went to the Al Manaar Community Mosque which is located a short distance away from the charred remains of the tower.

She made the visits alone, with only a security officer and royal aide for company.

The Al-Manaar Muslim Cultural Heritage Centre was one of the first places to offer help to those left homeless after the fire. Al-Manaar has been providing food, water and shelter as well as counselling to those in need, ever since the incident occurred.

71-people were killed in the Grenfell Tower fire last year in the borough of Kensington – Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s home.

In the days after the disaster, many members of the Royal family visited rest centres and first responders.

The Queen visited volunteers and rescuers to hear personal accounts of the disaster. At the time, she was joined by The Duke of Cambridge.

The Queen paid her respects to both the “bravery” of the firefighters, as well as meeting those affected by the blaze face-to-face.

Princes William and Harry have also been involved in comforting those people whose lives have been torn apart by the inferno.

Last year, the brothers met with a group of therapists who are helping people to talk about what they have been through, as well as the Grenfell women’s group who offer support to one and other as well as cooking meals for people left without a home.
http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/meghan-markle-conducts-secret-visits-to-the-site-of-the-grenfell-tower-fire-to-comfort-victims-96192


Meghan Markle has visited the Grenfell Tower site alone to ­comfort ­victims of the inferno.

In an echo of Princess Diana’s charity work, she made the trips in secret. One ­resident said: “It means so much.”


Prince Harry ’s fiancee has twice been to comfort those affected by the inferno that left 71 people dead and a community shattered.

The actress appeared at the Al Manaar community mosque, which lies in the shadow of the charred shell of Grenfell Tower at North Kensington, West London.

It is understood the US actress arrived without Harry but was flanked by a royal protection officer and one of the prince’s aides.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-echoes-princess-diana-12015483


Good for her on doing so


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 12, 2018, 11:36:49 pm
^^^ Indeed, but it gets her potential brownie points and shows her in a positive light still, to H, the Winds, the public.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 12, 2018, 11:39:18 pm
@RoyalReporter
Meghan’s visits have been part of a series of meetings she has held to get to know the UK charity sector.
Meghan Markle had been making private visits to Grenfell Tower fire victims at a West London mosque, sources have confirmed tonight.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 13, 2018, 12:39:42 am
Obviously she's being told to do that for brownie points but at least she's doing it and it helps those people so I can't say I'm against this you know whether she's doing it because she would do it on her own anyway or because she's being told


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on February 13, 2018, 12:52:05 am
Not so secret anymore, is it?  Good timing before her visuals tomorrow.  This is all too blatantly scripted to be taken as anything other than heavily orchestrated pr.  No sale.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 13, 2018, 01:23:27 am
^exactly!!!
Meghan’s 'secret visits to Grenfell': Prince Harry’s fiancée met inferno survivors during two undercover trips to mosque that is helping families who lost everything
Comment:
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LadyHam, Chicago, United States, about an hour ago
So where is her and Harry¿s secret visit to her father so he can¿t meet him for the first time? Also, why doesn¿t she try to help the fractured relationships in her own family before helping other families through a tragedy? There is just something so phony and disingenuous about someone who claims to be a humanitarian who wants to help people, when she has left a path of destruction of failed relationships behind her - friends, family, husbands, boyfriends, dogs, etc. her PR team is trying to paint her as ¿Saint Meghan¿. They¿re trying too hard. Her true colors are very evident.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5383597/Meghan-Markle-secret-visits-Grenfell-victims-twice.html#comments-5383597
The comments are being moderated, so this must’ve been one of the nicer ones.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2018, 02:02:41 am
It's funny how the moderating comments works. Sometimes it stays on sometimes after a day they remove the moderating.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 13, 2018, 02:21:46 am
^ Yeah... I think that maybe it's a case of "rush hour control"? Meaning, they know when the most comments will be submitted to articles regarding XY and then stop moderating later because fewer people comment and they have more time to copy & paste "articles" knocked off from buzzfeed, reddit et al and whatever else they do, like burn grammar books and find reasons to put out articles on Brexit  :shy: :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 13, 2018, 05:23:33 am
All the passport/IRS stuff is such a mess. It's too bad Harry couldn't have found a nice English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish young woman to marry. Someone who is already a citizen and doesn't need a passport to enter the country, or to have a foreign government stick its nose into the BRF finances.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 13, 2018, 03:05:08 pm
IMO, there are 2 things that make perfect sense to this mess; having the royal family appeal and seen as inclusive of all people and situations that reflect the common man and deflection from Andrew’s sex scandal with Espsteins young girls. The trial was to go on in December, 2017 but is now delayed until March, 2018. The royal family’s in a pickle because they used MM to play the race card to their advantage but are now stuck what to do with her now. She’s not the toast of the town and I read that Victoria Beckham’s distancing herself from her by denying being the designer on her wedding dress. Her image is that of a narc social climber who lies and manipulated to get what she wants, but as time goes by and she’s still around, the whole royal family looks weak and suspect. I don’t believe that her dirty past will be fully revealed but she’s got to go soon before people turn off from the whole monarchy altogether. A visa issue will do that, but Harry will always be attached to her as a former fiancé or if things are really bad, Harry might have to end up marrying the freak to keep the press on them instead of seedy Andrew.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 13, 2018, 04:31:14 pm
^ all may be true but the short end of it is PH picked a *sleeze*. The BRF is accepting it and that's it.  *sleeze* princess. This is the end in time because there is no divine right of rule with the likes of her and Waity. They need to give up the duchies and the tax payers money. They have enough without it. There is no divine right to the money of the masses anymore. That is the bottom line.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2018, 04:52:24 pm
I'm waiting to see how she does as a royal. And she may do well with her royal duties and have a genuine work ethic which is sorely needed within the younger generation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on February 13, 2018, 05:22:25 pm
Sparkles may very well have a strong work ethic.  In fact, I believe she does.  She certainly has ambition.  But, no one is going to be allowed to outshine Waity and PW so MM’s screwed.  I’m inclined to believe that’s starting to sink in with her at last and her dreams of glory are substantially diminishing.

Once the wedding hoohaw is over, it’ll really hit home how limiting her life choice was and is.

Unless she’s in it for the frills, financials and erasing of her past alone.  That’s a distinct possibility. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 13, 2018, 05:31:12 pm
She is in it for whatever she can get.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2018, 05:47:55 pm
Sparkles may very well have a strong work ethic.  In fact, I believe she does.  She certainly has ambition.  But, no one is going to be allowed to outshine Waity and PW so MM’s screwed.  I’m inclined to believe that’s starting to sink in with her at last and her dreams of glory are substantially diminishing.

Once the wedding hoohaw is over, it’ll really hit home how limiting her life choice was and is.

Unless she’s in it for the frills, financials and erasing of her past alone.  That’s a distinct possibility. 

Unfortunately that would mean two lazy duchesses . I don't see Kate increasing her numbers until the children are older (even though they are plenty of nannies).If Meghan is not allowed to work more, then it would be two workshy royals for the price of one. IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on February 13, 2018, 08:48:35 pm
^Um, well, you may mean two workshy duchesses for the price of two.   :bat:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2018, 08:58:18 pm
Yes. A second lazy duchess with perks and privileges galore.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 13, 2018, 09:22:20 pm
It makes no sense for Harry to have gone from dumping women that barely do anything and at most was a bit of harmless nonsense to keep their names in the press to advance/jumpstart their careers like Mollie King and Cressida Bonus to MM, a divorced social climber user who’s seen more ceilings due to her profession; a hideho prince. This royal thing’s a big joke that a nasty lying tart can become a member of the royal family and the people just have to deal with it and give her respect.  :thumbsdown:  Not bloody likely.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 14, 2018, 06:43:54 am
^ I hope that this doesn't go to the altar. Meghan is already making $$$$$ with Meghan's Mirror. There were rumors in tumblr that she has read all the predictions for FD and she tries to usurp a place that is not hers. The latest DM article shows her goals for joining the royal family. I'd say if she joins - Will and Kate should be very worried about accidents. I wouldn't be surprised if she stages something to help her advancement to the crown. Just look at the comments she's making:

https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com/post/170859657251/will-prince-harry-ever-be-king-meghan-markle (https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com/post/170859657251/will-prince-harry-ever-be-king-meghan-markle)

and the article:
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PRINCE HARRY and Meghan Markle are set to marry in May. This will make the LA-actress a member of the Royal Family, but will she be in-line to the throne?
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/913739/prince-harry-meghan-markle-news-king-queen (https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/913739/prince-harry-meghan-markle-news-king-queen)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 14, 2018, 01:04:22 pm
^it shouldn’t because she’s definitely using the royal family to make money and if this is indeed proved that she’s the owner with no doubt and it’s made to be known in the media, she’s toast. I’d like something like this instead of her dirt to be her downfall because it’s something she’s currently doing whilst still attached to Harry that’s a definite deal breaker for the royal family and the people.
'She's not as outwardly dark as some African Americans': Journalist claims British people are more 'comfortable' with Meghan Markle joining the royal family because of her light skin
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5389685/Meghan-Markle-pulled-colourism-debate.html
I brought this up a while ago as to why I don’t like MM because she’s used this to cry racism when she wasn’t to play victim. She uses what’s happened to women darker than her, women who can’t play the ambiguous card, to make it seem that she’s struggled and been such a victim of racism. She uses her own mum to play the race card. In the UK though, that kind of crap’s not tolerated in the way it is in the US. It’s the character more so than colour as that’s been proved a few times throughout this so called romance.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 14, 2018, 01:57:57 pm
^It's across borders. In ANTM right now there is a woman - Christina who is braggy, arrogant and plays the victim all the time and no one likes her in the house - she's so much like MM. But that's besides the point. Right now the ruin of M is best to come through the media that she loves so much.

What we need now is just a single journalist who can prove that M is making money off of her appearances with H, regardless of where the money go to - JM's PR company in Canada, M's star co Frim Fram which is, I think, registered in US (and owns Meghan's Mirror, per rumors), any "charity" registered in UK, or any IBC (international business company) registered in an offshore locations for tax dogging purposes (you know, the kind of locations that if IRS is after you you can safely hide in Mexico as a retirement option)

What will happen is - if she is on a family visa, she cannot work. She can pass on the events with PH as "free work" but if she receives money on it - she's violating her visa status and if the UK immigration officers do their work properly she should be banned from entering the country for ever... maybe sent on a red carpet to the airport for deportation while PH cries 1 tear for the cameras  :laugh:

I am not sure if there is such thing in UK or it is just a US thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 14, 2018, 03:40:06 pm
The only way this wedding isn't happening is if a comet drops on London, one of them drops dead, Harry strays and falls in love with another and leaves her at the alter or some other catastrophe. So it will happen in May. If she is making money against UK laws, she may have to face consequences but the BRF will get some law passed so I doubt it.  She is going to be on best behavior until she settles in. Then you will see if she keeps in line or becomes a Fergie.  I have always thought she would do her own thing and eventually leave with a good settlement, but I could be wrong. She may be just fine. So time will tell. I cannot imagine for the life of me that she will fit in well with that family given her background. However, I realize that this family may be accepting and warm now. Harry is a bad boy and likes that. He is marrying a bad girl and likes that. And if they are mature enough, (she certainly is) they may settle into boredom. They have done good things for society, whatever MM motivations are, so they may fade into duties. Then again, they may keep the gossip columns rolling. I don't know what QE really thinks, but she is old and may not care anymore as long as people seem happy in her family. PC is an idiot so who cares what he thinks. PW will support his brother and Waity doesn't care one way or the other about MM. She cares about her own family.  And the rest, they don't matter. We are the ones that care. And sometimes I wonder why I do. It is not my country although I am very fond of the UK.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 14, 2018, 06:09:13 pm
This isn’t a royal engagement and will not be a royal wedding. She’s using Harry and the royal family to make money. She’s conducting herself like the stupid Hollywood fake humanitarian she is and is such a narc that she’s caught up in her own bs narrative. Harry has now taken her to a charity that deals with AIDS and others that deals with underprivileged youths and now the homeless. All she seems concerned with is how she comes off on camera with her over-the-top facial expressions to act like she’s concerned st what’s being said to her. She had on expensive Birks jewelry and other attire to visit Scotland that mainly centered around the homeless issues. All she does and continues to do is show that she could care less about what Harry’s bringing her to as long as she gets to merch and great her adoring fans.
Harry’s not the one in need of a mother type figure because Chelsea never did that crap to him and neither did Cressida. IMO, MM’s doing things that would tic him off like rubbing his back and grabbing his hand and being so bloody clingy all the time.
A strong sense of duty with a love of opulence: How Meghan's new jewellery arrangement suggests ‘high expectations’ (and what those stacked rings REALLY mean)
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For her first official visit to Scotland, Meghan wore two thin gold bands, with the addition of two diamond-studded rings from Birks worth an eye-watering £5,800 alone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5390267/Johnny-Fincham-decodes-Meghans-new-ring-arrangement.html
Money’s her true love. The main point of the article for me is the cost of the rings that she’s merchandising for Birks.  There has to be tax and visa implications here as she doesn’t have a working visa to make money legally in the UK and US. Harry setting her up would be in line with the Harry that’d toss women off when she’s using him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 14, 2018, 07:23:52 pm
^An article as to where and why she has placed the rings on her fingers?  :shy: "Palmistry expert"?! Does that require a college degree  ??? What in the world?  :-

As always its a thrill to read the comments  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Little light on February 14, 2018, 08:31:30 pm
^Ariel

What I said ANTM mean please?

If I were any sharper, I'd be a blunt pencil. Sorry for being so dim.

Thank you.   :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 15, 2018, 01:21:00 am
This isn’t a royal engagement and will not be a royal wedding. She’s using Harry and the royal family to make money. She’s conducting herself like the stupid Hollywood fake humanitarian she is and is such a narc that she’s caught up in her own bs narrative. Harry has now taken her to a charity that deals with AIDS and others that deals with underprivileged youths and now the homeless. All she seems concerned with is how she comes off on camera with her over-the-top facial expressions to act like she’s concerned st what’s being said to her. She had on expensive Birks jewelry and other attire to visit Scotland that mainly centered around the homeless issues. All she does and continues to do is show that she could care less about what Harry’s bringing her to as long as she gets to merch and great her adoring fans.
Harry’s not the one in need of a mother type figure because Chelsea never did that crap to him and neither did Cressida. IMO, MM’s doing things that would tic him off like rubbing his back and grabbing his hand and being so bloody clingy all the time.
A strong sense of duty with a love of opulence: How Meghan's new jewellery arrangement suggests ‘high expectations’ (and what those stacked rings REALLY mean)
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For her first official visit to Scotland, Meghan wore two thin gold bands, with the addition of two diamond-studded rings from Birks worth an eye-watering £5,800 alone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5390267/Johnny-Fincham-decodes-Meghans-new-ring-arrangement.html
Money’s her true love. The main point of the article for me is the cost of the rings that she’s merchandising for Birks.  There has to be tax and visa implications here as she doesn’t have a working visa to make money legally in the UK and US. Harry setting her up would be in line with the Harry that’d toss women off when she’s using him.

The ironic part was that Chelsy was accused of being "clingy." She had some people who called her that. Sad really.
Harry though is probably providing wall to wall lawyers and tax professionals for Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 15, 2018, 02:19:52 am
MM is not on the covers as much as Waity even now. But on the new OK at the check stands, MM is with PH and caption is she saved PH life by stopping him from drinking, partying, smoking and by keeping him home with home made dinners. I don't know if this is sort of true. But if it is, she is his mother. And I bet that will not last long and H will go back to his old ways.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 15, 2018, 05:38:11 am
^^ Complete waste of money imo

ANTM means America's next top model. I keep promising myself to stop watching it but just like the brf - the drama is too intense. lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2018, 03:50:44 pm
This isn’t a royal engagement and will not be a royal wedding. She’s using Harry and the royal family to make money. She’s conducting herself like the stupid Hollywood fake humanitarian she is and is such a narc that she’s caught up in her own bs narrative. Harry has now taken her to a charity that deals with AIDS and others that deals with underprivileged youths and now the homeless. All she seems concerned with is how she comes off on camera with her over-the-top facial expressions to act like she’s concerned st what’s being said to her. She had on expensive Birks jewelry and other attire to visit Scotland that mainly centered around the homeless issues. All she does and continues to do is show that she could care less about what Harry’s bringing her to as long as she gets to merch and great her adoring fans.
Harry’s not the one in need of a mother type figure because Chelsea never did that crap to him and neither did Cressida. IMO, MM’s doing things that would tic him off like rubbing his back and grabbing his hand and being so bloody clingy all the time.
A strong sense of duty with a love of opulence: How Meghan's new jewellery arrangement suggests ‘high expectations’ (and what those stacked rings REALLY mean)
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For her first official visit to Scotland, Meghan wore two thin gold bands, with the addition of two diamond-studded rings from Birks worth an eye-watering £5,800 alone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5390267/Johnny-Fincham-decodes-Meghans-new-ring-arrangement.html
Money’s her true love. The main point of the article for me is the cost of the rings that she’s merchandising for Birks.  There has to be tax and visa implications here as she doesn’t have a working visa to make money legally in the UK and US. Harry setting her up would be in line with the Harry that’d toss women off when she’s using him.
The ironic part was that Chelsy was accused of being "clingy." She had some people who called her that. Sad really.
Harry though is probably providing wall to wall lawyers and tax professionals for Meghan.

Just think, people thought Cressida was bad news; now she comes along and go figure, this is what happens. I am impressed with her ridiculously good luck.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 15, 2018, 06:04:24 pm
I don’t think it’s anything to do with luck. IMO, it looks like this has to do with the “lesser” commonwealth countries and who’s going to be the head of state when the queen dies. MM’s ethnicity would appeal to the Caribbean and African countries as she’s part black. What won’t appeal to the people is her blatant using Harry and the royal family for her merchandising and making everything about her. It’s an out for Harry and the royal family to discard her without anyone being upset and thinking it’s a race thing. The royal family shouldn’t be used for financial gain. There’s talk that Meghan Mirror blog that has now very expertly covered her fashion that can of course be purchased via the blog, Meghan either owns it or has a stake in it and is making a profit off of it. You’ll also notice that the press covers her fashion as if it’s a sponsored advertisement like the article about her expensive Birks rings. IMO, she serves a purpose but has to be booted out of the U.K. for being a blatant greedy uncaring liberal Hollywood flake only interested in herself and what she can get out of her association with Harry.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2018, 06:17:45 pm
Despite her past that is coming out, Harry remains besotted and the Palace is protecting her; she hasn't been broomed out and she has remained firmly in the palace's periphery. So far a lot of people are silenced and I do think she is lucky. Harry is clearly not seeing reason and he's the one who is choosing this for his life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 15, 2018, 06:22:14 pm
As I said, IMO what is "coming out" seems to be from Tumblr. The men in grey certainly would have gone over her past with a fine tooth comb. If there were anything "coming out" she'd be history. IMO. And her half sister seems to be on the spiteful side. She does have to get used to scrutiny and at times her every move criticized by those who don't like her. Maybe she's not seeing reason, since Harry is no prize IMO and is not perfect. It takes two as I said.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 15, 2018, 06:31:50 pm
It’s not beyond reason to believe that the “grey men” know what skeletons she has in her closet and are using her to play the race card right back; royal family being inclusive and abhor any racism, the talk of race relations going more mainstream in the media, the commonwealth issue of the all white, elitist out of touch royal family being head of state (#notmyprince issue prior to Harry’s tour of the Caribbean), now her dirt can come out without issue because it won’t be vowed as people being racist, sexist, etc towards her given that over this time, all of her victimization excuses have been debunked by herself.
The tumblr blogs aren’t the only one talking about her dirty self. The DM and Express as well as other press and her former co-star have been hinting that she’s not a nice clean person. The DM basically called her a Soho House girl and a cheater. At the end of the day, she’s a fall girl used and discarded and was chosen because she’s a narc with no real career or importance who’s easily forgotten after she’s booted back to the States.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2018, 06:37:16 pm
As I said, IMO what is "coming out" seems to be from Tumblr. The men in grey certainly would have gone over her past with a fine tooth comb. If there were anything "coming out" she'd be history. IMO. And her half sister seems to be on the spiteful side. She does have to get used to scrutiny and at times her every move criticized by those who don't like her. Maybe she's not seeing reason, since Harry is no prize IMO and is not perfect. It takes two as I said.

Harry is protecting her and now as a result, the RF have to protect Meg for Harry's sake; that is why she's securely in. Harry is her protection until she gets that ring on her finger.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 15, 2018, 06:39:43 pm
Neither of them are perfect. Neither Will nor Harry found an aristo woman to marry. Harry's choice is more or less par for the course. Meghan needs to pull her weight and follow the rules to the letter.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 15, 2018, 06:45:12 pm
Waity’s rubbish as a choice of Wills wife bit MM is on another low level along with her tax, visa and religion issues that the royal family will be embroiled with as she’s an American citizen.
KF, Harry can’t protect himself so there’s no way he’s protecting this mess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 15, 2018, 06:50:51 pm
Meghan's marrying a royal so does not have the same tax and visa and religious issues of the average citizen. Doors will be kicked upon for her so to speak. In olden times, royal princes would marry princesses from other countries. There were issues with that also (e.g. how loyal the princess would be to England if her country of origin became involved in a war with England).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 15, 2018, 07:12:11 pm
In old days the foreign princesses were princesses, not an unsuccessful actress with shady family, shady business ventures and dishonest and manipulating character that brings the meaning of phony to the next level.

At this point I question the grey men - what were they doing. I mean, forget all the baggage, she's not a decent person.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 15, 2018, 08:10:29 pm
^I say the other RFs in Europe said hell no to their daughters, female cousins, and nieces marrying into the BRF after what happened with Diana. Maybe the RFs in Europe think that the BRF "bumped off" Diana.  :nervous: My mom refuses to believe that it was just a "car crash."

The grey men can't tell a grown man what he can and cannot do, only thing they can do is handle the card that they have been dealt with whomever Harry decided to marry. The grey men know Megs is sketchy, but what can they do, really? They can only pretend to defend her honor to not make Harry look like he made a bad choice, even though we know he is.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 15, 2018, 10:02:21 pm
IMO, it makes sense that the “grey men” would use her to tamper the feeling of the royal family being elitist who brings up negative feelings about colonialism. Since she’s been on the scene, the issue of her being bi-racial is brought up. An article also said that the people have more in common with her than with Harry and the royal family; they can relate to her. It makes sense to the casual viewer as she’s seen as she’s a commoner too. In reality, she’s too messed up with too much skankiness attached to her to be taken seriously as a contender for a member of the royal family and that’s why she should be gone. Harry didn’t change overnight from discarding women that use him for fame and money to being engaged to a big user like MM who’s being using him since day one. The royal family would be finished if she’s allowed to marry in.
I think the aristocratic family’s daughters are too busy swanning around the world being brand ambassadors and attending fancy fashion shows and parties to be bothered with marrying into the BRF. Seeing what Wills married doesn’t help either as whoever Harry married will be 2nd fiddle to Waity. Not a bright prospect but not so bad that the only taker would be a failed supporting actress with a narc personality from America.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 15, 2018, 10:52:10 pm
Prince Harry & Meghan Markle Lifetime Movie Begins Filming (Photos)
http://www.justjared.com/2018/02/14/prince-harry-meghan-markle-lifetime-movie-begins-filming-photos/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 15, 2018, 11:10:07 pm
Meghan's day off! Miss Markle's doppelgänger Parisa Fitz-Henley takes a pause from filming on the set of the movie based on her romance with Harry
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5397205/Actor-playing-role-Prince-Harry-without-Meghan.html
Pure fantasy as we have Harry in black tuck/bow tie at a red carpet affair. This will be more Disney princess crap with no resemblance to reality.
The fact is that MM is outwardly being made fun of in Hollywood via that IG account with Prince George, shunned by the fashion world and her faux bestie Victoria Beckham and the general public.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 15, 2018, 11:43:51 pm
Does the documentary include her Soho House girl days? She wasn't so famous that she could afford to pay for the membership.

IMO, it makes sense that the “grey men” would use her to tamper the feeling of the royal family being elitist who brings up negative feelings about colonialism. Since she’s been on the scene, the issue of her being bi-racial is brought up. An article also said that the people have more in common with her than with Harry and the royal family; they can relate to her. It makes sense to the casual viewer as she’s seen as she’s a commoner too. In reality, she’s too messed up with too much skankiness attached to her to be taken seriously as a contender for a member of the royal family and that’s why she should be gone. Harry didn’t change overnight from discarding women that use him for fame and money to being engaged to a big user like MM who’s being using him since day one. The royal family would be finished if she’s allowed to marry in.
I think the aristocratic family’s daughters are too busy swanning around the world being brand ambassadors and attending fancy fashion shows and parties to be bothered with marrying into the BRF. Seeing what Wills married doesn’t help either as whoever Harry married will be 2nd fiddle to Waity. Not a bright prospect but not so bad that the only taker would be a failed supporting actress with a narc personality from America.

No one wanted William or HArry and since neither prince wanted to make an effort, well, no one bothered with them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 16, 2018, 12:19:03 am
what this LMN will have

It will start with her as a lil girl in school watching that soap dish ad
Then you might have a lil clip of her getting bullied
It will gloss over her 1st marriage
Then we will have harry acting wild then we will have the Orlando IG (hero harry)
Harry and Meghan will meet their glamping trip in Africa
The reason why he made that statement  ( so they will have Meghan being chased by paps someone breaking into her house racist remarks her crying )
Harry doing his layover in Toronto after his tour
of course we will have a fade to black which means they about to have sex
Toronto IG
Them cooking roast chicken in NC
Its LMN so its going be OTT cheesy disney

will,kate and HM will be in the movie also
we might also get some jealous ugly BBB trash talking Meghan cause they want harry
IMO


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 16, 2018, 02:54:02 am
^It is LMN, it will be worse than that


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 16, 2018, 03:15:33 am
JAN MOIR: Why does Meghan Markle need to be so huggy wuggy?
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If only she could dial down the full beam of worried sympathy that strobes from her lovely eyes at every opportunity and give it a rest with the endless Lady Bountiful arm-pats, I think people would like her more.
Let us discover for ourselves how caring and kind she is, instead of her spreading it on so thickly that we can hardly see past the sugary glaze. Too many layers of the custard of compassion on this particular royal trifle is going to make us all feel a little bit sick.
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Meghan's biggest gesture to date has been giving up her acting career so that she and her prince can save the planet together — or whatever it is that they want to do.
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And having said previously that Meghan can't wear £56,000 dresses and expect people to love her as she doles out broth in a soup kitchen, I now wonder if she and Harry shouldn't smarten up, just a bit. In her urban-girl uniform of black trousers and coats, straggly-haired Meghan turns up on official royal business as if she were on her way to get coffees for the office. Joined by a tieless Harry, they crash around, high-fiving, cuddling, rapping to order and generally getting down with the kidz. One wonders who is advising this headstrong young couple and where their unconventional approach will lead.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5398179/Why-does-Meghan-Markle-need-huggy-wuggy.html#ixzz57EjqU8MK
She's a grifter who's tries to morth into whatever she thinks will garner her attention and money. Hugging the charity organizer was likely a move to keep the press on her and not Harry who was chatting to someone a few steps away from her. Unfortunately for her, the more people see of her the more they see her fakeness andknow that she's bad for the royal family and the UK. Whilst she's out and about playing the good humanitarian, she's using the press attention to merchandise her attire and accessories to make money for herself.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Val on February 16, 2018, 09:06:31 am
^

Typical DM comment too.

Blue Plantagenet, London, United Kingdom, 2 minutes ago
'I find it incredulous that a two bit nobody from the wrong side of the tracks, with a rather appalling track record herself, can suddenly be elevated to such a position, not by merit in my opinion but purely because she has expertly seduced a lonely and dim witted prince. She should NOT be foisted on us all.'
ReplyNew811Rated

Many also saying that she should be caring for her family, not ignoring them and doing her 'good works' wih them?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 16, 2018, 09:44:10 am
It's embarrassing. $6K for rings to meet up with charity about feeding the homeless but not meeting any of them, getting rid of the homeless who live on the streets around Windsor, cause she'll be getting married there, not helping her mom but being so proud to be rich in her own right.

I mean, only the blind can't see at this point that M is the kind of person who is undeserving to be made an honest woman.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 16, 2018, 12:23:05 pm
EXCLUSIVE - 'We'll have front row seats for Harry and Meghan's wedding!' Homeless say they won't be budged for the big day as they pitch TENTS next to Windsor Castle
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Tory councillor Simon Dudley moaned that rough sleepers living around the castle should be moved on in time for the royal wedding in May.
But the street dwellers say they won't budge and have started putting up tents near the royal residence as they boast that they will have 'front row seats' for the big day.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5394709/Homeless-pitch-TENTS-Windsor-Castle.html

No taxpayer funding for the Royal Wedding
https://www.republic.org.uk/petition/royal-wedding

^excellent post Ariel. She’s tacky, tawdry and could care less about anything but herself.
Harry has said that instead of using a # on social media about things like MM does, he’s going to do something about it. So far, since he’s been “engaged” to her, he’s been highlighting the plight of the youth and homeless people.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 16, 2018, 12:28:38 pm
^ Good for the homeless. They should not allow for some snobby self-entitled socialites to treat them like garbage that can be tossed away.  :bat:

They should bring their dogs too. Lets put to the test if QE's dogs loved Meghan so much that they sat on her lap while she's genuinely afraid of kids and horses and they can smell from a mile away if you have love in your heart or not.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 16, 2018, 12:36:46 pm
Since she’s playing humanitarian, she should cancel the church wedding and the carriage ride so the homeless people aren’t disturbed, but we all know that’s not going to happen. The comments should be scathing especially towards her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 16, 2018, 02:28:14 pm
Naw, don't cancel the wedding!!! After the wedding, Meggles should rush out in her gown and messy hair do and clasp the peasants to her breast and stare sympathetically into their eyes in the manner that Jan Moir so accurately described!!    lol

Oh, my.  This is going to be so fun.  And after all the mouthing off that Charles and Harry are doing about politics, they so deserve to have Meggles brought into their midst to bring them down.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 16, 2018, 02:37:17 pm
Since she’s playing humanitarian, she should cancel the church wedding and the carriage ride so the homeless people aren’t disturbed, but we all know that’s not going to happen. The comments should be scathing especially towards her.


It would be a drop in the bucket if one couple did it. So if it applies to H and M maybe Eugenie should do the same thing with their wedding and help out the poor by saving wedding expenses and helping the homeless. IMO the rules of sacrificing should apply to all royals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2018, 02:42:47 pm
^ Good for the homeless. They should not allow for some snobby self-entitled socialites to treat them like garbage that can be tossed away.  :bat:
They should bring their dogs too. Lets put to the test if QE's dogs loved Meghan so much that they sat on her lap while she's genuinely afraid of kids and horses and they can smell from a mile away if you have love in your heart or not.

Just for the cost of the wedding, a dozen shelters could be created for the homeless. Or even small inexpensive homes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 16, 2018, 02:44:39 pm
My point: why would Harry and Meghan be the only ones who needed to do this. Why not both couples who are marrying this year? Eugenie is not exactly a pauper. A lot more could be done if all royals had scaled down weddings.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 16, 2018, 03:39:33 pm
Okay, for all the movie star humanitarians, none of them are giving up their riches for the poor. No one does that. So none of these royals are giving up a big wedding whether they will help the poor or not. There should be a simple wedding for Harry because he is marrying an older divorced woman. I don't care what Spain did, this is the UK with tradition and is watched by the world. This is completely tacky of them. But tradition is going slowly away and MM will help that along. Look at her older interviews before Harry. She is a bubble gum personality which is typical for my home town girls whether we become professionals or not. And she is somewhat intelligent, but not overly so as evident by some of her stupid answers or inability to answer intelligent spontaneous questions. Anything she gets now is scripted so it doesn't count. She is cutesy with some guts and Harry likes that Californian thing. I just think looking at who she was in her previous adult years, she will not adjust down the line. I would not either nor would any of my friends or my nieces friends. We are too different. So they need to break from tradition more and more or they will end. It is still amazing that MM claimed to be a feminist while milking the sex thing. Maybe that is okay and should be part of feminism. I listen to her tell a young girl at some conference or panel that just because you look pretty and dress cute that you can still be a feminist. I cannot believe that conversation as it belonged back in the 70's. Many professional women for decades have looked beautiful, sexy and everything. I know. You should see some of the Los Angeles County District Attorney women. And the funny thing is we dress more for women than men. But MM is not quite that bright to get everything with her views. But to her credit she majored in theater and international relations and she has gotten both careers in her life. So she has great goal achieving abilities . And her calligraphy is gorgeous. I saw an example on Larry King Live where he didn't let her say a word so she drew. So she has some good qualities, but she is wrong for the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2018, 03:56:33 pm
Movie stars are not paid to represent the nation and the interests of the nation.

My point: why would Harry and Meghan be the only ones who needed to do this. Why not both couples who are marrying this year? Eugenie is not exactly a pauper. A lot more could be done if all royals had scaled down weddings.

Exactly; there is no need for such obscene pomp since it's not like the marriages are bringing anything.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 16, 2018, 04:14:15 pm
^ I understand the difference between movie stars and the BRF. My point is no matter who, people with lots of money usually live well with it and have posh weddings, etc. They may donate some to the poor, but by far they spend it on themselves whether they promote charity or not. They are not going to by pass a big wedding to give it to the poor. It would be great if rich people did that.  But they don't as a rule.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 16, 2018, 04:22:50 pm
Since she’s playing humanitarian, she should cancel the church wedding and the carriage ride so the homeless people aren’t disturbed, but we all know that’s not going to happen. The comments should be scathing especially towards her.


It would be a drop in the bucket if one couple did it. So if it applies to H and M maybe Eugenie should do the same thing with their wedding and help out the poor by saving wedding expenses and helping the homeless. IMO the rules of sacrificing should apply to all royals.

Is Eugenie holding herself out as some great humanitarian as Meggles is?   It isn't really the money spent on the wedding that's being argued here; it's the hypocrisy of Meggles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 16, 2018, 04:48:50 pm
I don't think that really matters. Eugenie did charity work. And yes of course there is hypocrisy among royals about preaching and not doing much about it. I could list many examples of this. But it would seem that "helping" by having a smaller wedding does not come across as more than "punishing Meghan" for speaking out and not doing anything about it. I think it is a case of all or none. And yes, it's a great idea for all of them to scale down their lavish lifestyles. And then none of them would speak out about poverty and not be penalized by putting money where there mouth is. I think all of them should scale down whether they speak out about issues or not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 16, 2018, 05:51:37 pm
It's easy to deprive her!  She's American and already been down the aisle.  She's not missing out!  Eugenie is granddaughter of a monarch....big difference.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 16, 2018, 06:07:37 pm
Whether they are born into the Firm or not, they are classified as royals. Should Harry and Meghan have children, she would be the mother of  great grandchildren of the Queen. So people marrying into the family should have an inferior wedding to one "born into" the Firm even though she is down in line of succession? And also be the only royal to have a scaled down wedding while Prince X or Princess X have one 10X as expensive? why not have all of them have scaled down weddings?  She will be Harry's first wife not second wife in any case. And that seems to be what matters here. Harry is a part of the equation too. So if she gets the scaled down one her fiance the grandchild of the Queen will have to "sacrifice" also?

I think the Charles and Camilla type wedding would apply if this were Harry's second time around. It is his first and hopefully only marriage. So it won't be scaled down. But that said, C and C's wedding was not "poverty row" and cost $$$$ too. they did not just go into that registry office, they had a blessing and a large reception. And the security costs money too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2018, 07:00:05 pm
The BRF has never been about being fair or just.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 16, 2018, 07:26:19 pm
^^ Prince Michael of Kent, grandson of a monarch, had a scaled down wedding when he married a divorced Catholic foreigner.  It is done when the circumstances call for it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 16, 2018, 07:42:08 pm
Yes, but Prince Michael had no chance of being a monarch and is the son of King George VI's brother. They did not exactly rent out a "hall" with cut rate chicken dinners. And it is forgotten how Harry was sent threatening messages by terrorist organizations because he served in Afghanistan. That alone would call for $$$$ on security no matter where the wedding was held.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 16, 2018, 08:08:53 pm
^^ Yes, but back then being a "divorcé/e" was a much bigger issue, and worse yet, him marrying a Catholic meant being excluded from the line of succession. So his wedding absolutely had to be scaled down. Murkles could be Catholic (or Jewish even, i.e. non-Christian) and him marrying her would make no difference to the line of succession. Things have changed considerably, so it's not realistic to have the same wedding and consequences for Harry as for Michael back in the day when the then "princess Pushy" came in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 16, 2018, 08:24:54 pm
^^ Prince Michael of Kent, grandson of a monarch, had a scaled down wedding when he married a divorced Catholic foreigner.  It is done when the circumstances call for it.
well said... marry a divorcée is a big no-no in monarchies, particularly in BRF... harry and meghan dont deserves any special treatment... everyone knows why the son of a future king is getting married at Windsor


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 16, 2018, 10:24:17 pm
So Harry, the son of the Prince of Wales, the future King Charles III, should have a cut price wedding because he's marrying a divorcee, even though this is his first wedding, while Eugenie, who will be ninth in succession and whose father has no chance of becoming King, gets a lavish wedding with all the trimmings? Why didn't the then Heir to the Spanish throne, Felipe, think of that when he married the divorced Letizia?

And Charles's supposed 'downscale' wedding cost £5 million apart from security when he married Camilla. Some downsizing! The Queen and Charles will be paying for much of Harry's wedding as they did William and Kate's much more lavish affair.

And the security details are there for all weddings were royals are gathered together, RPOs etc are on duty even when royals are snoring away at home. Police details are there when royals attend memorial services and services of dedication, jubilee celebrations and hundreds of other occasions, private and public when they gather together.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 16, 2018, 10:56:38 pm
^  No . . . what I am saying -- although not vehemently, as I think the posh wedding will provides loads of snarking -- is that because Meghan Markle makes such a big deal out of her charity/humanitarian/UN persona [all fake as far as I can tell -- but I digress] . . . and because she "dresses down" to be "one of the people"   with slopping coats, ill-fitting pants, and jeans with holes on them. . . that it would be consistent with her fake persona to have a scaled down event so she could be consistent with the fake persona.

I don't know that Harry gives a rip about what kind of wedding he has -- he certainly isn't giving a rip about what kind of bride he's selecting, so . . .  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 12:22:11 am
It's Harry's wedding too. Why would Harry have to have a scaled down wedding because of that? ALL the royals make big issues of things and try to act like the "rest of us". William hunts like mad but has tried to craft an image of himself as a "friend to animals." When you get right down to it many senior royals are fakes. So why would Meghan be the only one singled out? Who when you get right down to it is "genuine" in that family? Possibly the Queen but the others (some even born into the Firm) seem like phonies.They also don't all dress like Queen Victoria and have dressed as informally as Meghan at times. I think Harry cares very much about the wedding he has.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 17, 2018, 12:23:59 am
I think Harry is a little bitter that he isn't getting a major venue, but this is a disaster and has had nothing but bad vibes from the public since day one. Kind of like how Charles wants Camilla as Princess of Wales, but Camilla has to accept Duchess of Cornwall as her title and style. Meg brings nothing to the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 12:31:02 am
Camilla helped break up a marriage and undermined an extremely popular royal.

Meghan did not do anything like Camilla did. Harry did not have a wife much less a popular one.

Not everybody thinks badly about Meghan. The Tumblr people even denied they were dating! They don't represent the world.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 17, 2018, 12:53:38 am
Meghan is a divorced woman who's marrying a HRH Prince of England. Harry knows very well why he's a getting Windsor wedding not at London. Everyone who read about BRF knows very well why he's not getting a London wedding. As Charles knows very well why he and camilla got married at Windsor

Eugenie is someone that's NOT important in present let alone in future of the monarchy - no matters how her father feels about that - to her, it was never in cards a Westminster Abbey wedding - no mystery

Their wedding isnt even considered a semi-State affair -no presidents, 1rst ladies, foreign royals - all very obvious


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 01:07:14 am
Nobody involved said "why" he was getting married there. It is purely speculation as to "why". It's not like they are "making him" marry at Craithie Church and have a reception of cheese and crackers.Windsor is not exactly a "dump" in any case.  I agree that Eugenie is not important in future of the monarchy.

William and Kate did not seem to appreciate the London wedding, putting in those trees.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 17, 2018, 01:16:24 am
pure speculation? yeah, god knows why william and kate werent allowed marry in amazing St George's Chapel... and why Charles not picked Westminster Abbey for his 2nd wedding to a divorced woman... why he chose the amazing St George's Chapel ? all pure speculation... comprehension of the obvious?... never mind!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 01:24:38 am
It is speculation since there are no direct quotes from any of the parties as to why. Charles and Camilla had to have the actual ceremony in a registry office--he was a divorced man and she a divorcee (and the other woman in the first wedding). They got married in any case and it took nearly 9 years after his divorce from Diana for them to do so.

Maybe some find St. George's Chapel amazing. For a mere chapel it holds many people.

The St. George's Chapel may look fabulous compared to the Westminster with the indoor trees thought decorative by Kate and/or Will.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 17, 2018, 03:03:55 am
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In an open letter published in the Daily Mail before their engagement was announced, she wrote: 'She’ll have to think very carefully about how she presents herself in public What she does, what she wears, how she behaves and what she’s seen doing with whom.
'Her behaviour to a certain extent, now reflects upon Prince Harry.' 
Koo added: 'I hope she’s a nice girl and doesn’t break his heart. My main concern is for him. He’s the one taking the big leap of faith. He doesn’t know if she’s going to be a loyal friend or not; whether she can stand the pressures or not. She needs to be able to put up, and shut up.
'If they are both invested in this relationship, it can work. Times have changed, and the world is more generous. Look at Prince Charles, now married to a divorcée, and Prince William married a commoner.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5399459/Prince-Andrews-ex-Koo-Stark-attends-book-launch-London.html#ixzz57KVhSFMc

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hobbittoes, crustyfeet, United States, 7 hours ago
LOL!!! Thats a cheap looking walmart ring. Get real. I love that Nutmeg has to pretend to like it. She must have been beside herself when Harry gave her that cheap thing, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Harry is a tool.
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WolfQueen, Upper Great Lakes, United States, 5 hours ago
Thank you! Nice to see someone agrees. It looks like a Costco special & we all know those aren't Diana's jewels flopping around on there unsecured.
  :tehe:
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5397101/What-American-women-think-big-diamond-looks-like.html#ixzz57KYLfZFw


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 17, 2018, 08:08:39 am
"cheap looking walmart ring" :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on February 17, 2018, 02:51:53 pm
pure speculation? yeah, god knows why william and kate werent allowed marry in amazing St George's Chapel... and why Charles not picked Westminster Abbey for his 2nd wedding to a divorced woman... why he chose the amazing St George's Chapel ? all pure speculation... comprehension of the obvious?... never mind!

It's always all speculation when what's being said has common sense backing it but goes against what someone else wants to believe.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 17, 2018, 03:41:15 pm
^Amen  :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: ^


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 17, 2018, 03:55:31 pm
Andrew was the last to have a huge wedding in his generation. Then again he was the last to marry from a royal circle person. Then the next generation all are having smaller weddings except for Wills the future King (if he makes it). And I thought his wedding was smaller than his father's but I don't remember for sure.  Maybe unless it is Prince George or someone finally lands a prince or princess again, there won't be the huge lavish weddings. But let us face it, even small it is lavish. And totally inappropriate for MM as a divorced woman. Anne, Camilla and my three cousins who married a second time did it in white dresses and smaller affairs. And my cousins all married men the second time who had not been married before. The first time was of course the big typical wedding. I think PH is getting a big privilege for his used goods choice of a wife. But if PC is paying from his minimally taxed duchies, then he can do what he wants for PH ^the articles on the DM online talking about the Chelsey crowd was informative. MM was hanging and infiltrating PH friend base, or at least the girlfriends of his friends, around the time she started dating him. That shows me she was gunning to meet him and most likely knew quite a bit of information before she landed her first date through these friends. The one that set her up said it was more people involved than just her. The date worked out obviously but her "I didn't know anything about him routine" is so typical of her twisting the truth to her advantage.  Just such a bad choice in so many ways. It astounds me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 17, 2018, 04:29:54 pm
^ Will's wedding was smaller than Charles's, a new term was invented for Bill's: "semi-state", meaning the taxpayer pays and dignitaries are invited but Bill gets to control more than usual & simply doesn't invite everyone (diplomats, dignitaries etc) he should, or something like that.

With them a small wedding is really circumstance and the size of guest list and the guests who are invited and make it, plus location. Even their "smallest" and most "down to earth" wedding would be a gigantic lavish affair with a huge price tag attached compared to regular people.

Charles's 2nd wedding was definitely "small" (whilst his 1st was the biggest and most lavish in recent history) and Harry's will be "small" too, esp compared to Will's "semi-state" London do. Windsor and St George's may be big and important and whatnot & heirs may have married there, but it's really Buck P and Westminster Abbey/ St Paul's that the world knows and the average Brit frankly too. And a foreigener like Meg was most definitely gunning for a London do and not Windsor, which to her is likely "in the boons" compared to London, that type of prestige attached, and let's not forget the Diana connection. Also especially considering that M seems certainly to have circled around certain people to get to a certain place. And when you land what you set out for, reality can be even more disappointing (I bet you anything that she was definitely not banking on a Winds wedding and was let down when told that London isn't happening). The fact that this isn't even "semi-state" but apparently entirely "private" speaks imo volumes.

The guest list will be "poor", barely any dignitaries and officials and royals from the "lower end of the spectrum". Even if some big gun royals could attend I doubt they would, the younger generation seems to have a pitiful and barely there connection and relationship with any other royals. Bill, Waity & Harry ignoring the Bernadottes at the Olympics; and worse yet, Bill & Waity not knowing who the king of Spain is, ignoring him and elbowing their way past him speaks volumes.

But, we'll see who'll be invited and come!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 17, 2018, 05:15:00 pm
William's wedding was a tackfest and Charles' wedding was the only dignified one in our time. Harry's wedding will be a horror show of tack and I wonder how much gin HM is going to have to ingest to get through the entire blasphemous parody of a wedding that this will be. The reason for the downgrade is that there isn't anything worth celebrating in this union. Thankfully Westminster is not an option this time around and I cannot fathom the reaction of royalists to Harry's disastrous choice. When Charles married Diana, it was aristocrats getting a legitimate link in, the public was getting a fairy-tale, and the best and top were invited. Diana was also making a huge sacrifice.

Harry isn't making any sacrifice, Meg isn't making any sacrifices, and the public is being milked while being cut out of the main event. This wedding isn't a national bonding, this is Harry and Meg and the BRF partying with the elite and making the public pay and at the same time, making it clear to the public that THEY (Meg and Harry and their guests) are the center of it all, not the nation. The nation isn't invited to the party, they're supposed to remain in the gutter.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 17, 2018, 07:28:01 pm
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/682497/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Wedding-fake-sex-video

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5401777/Links-young-royals-Chelsea-cast.html#ixzz57L29KJiq

Meghan Markle's four favourite jewellery brands
https://www.standard.co.uk/fashion/news/meghan-markle-jewellery-a3741001.html

It's a catch-22 because although they're vapid and crass, the royals would be deemed snobs if they didn't associate with them in some capacity since they travel in the same social circles.
I think that MM has done something involving sex and that Camilla has seen it because she kept going on about her being such a star when reacting to the engagement announcement. Why would she say that with such a knowing smirk? The press can buy the rights to MM's dirt and sit on it and then release it at the right moment. IMO, the "grey men" played the long game with her, used her regarding her ethnicity to push the diversity issue and to calm the commonwealth countries regarding them looking at the royal family as being elitist and out of touch with them and now that Charles will most likely succeeed the queen as becoming head of state to the commonwealth, MM can be discarded now. The whole "romance" and "engagement" has been so very odd that to me it would make sense for her to get the boot as they'll be no benefit for anyone if this does go to marriage.
Not good to blantanly merchandise crap like she does. Hopefully Scotland was the last time we see her with Harry as he did seem distant from her. He's probaly fed up with her nonsense and was trying to focus on the homeless issues. She seemed to be only concerned with showing off her clothes and accessories whilst she put on an act of caring with the founder of the cafe that she hugged.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 10:19:11 pm
I have to laugh at the idea of Camilla being judgmental over Meghan. A Bad Joke. IMO. Camilla always smirks in any case, that's her idea of smiling.

I don't see Harry as being distant with her. If he were "distant" he would have dropped her ages ago. And as I said, Harry is no prize himself. To me the idea of his being judgmental is absurd.
 
Carrying On and dianab, re: common sense. Yes it is what people want to believe. And it goes for both opinions. The royals still did not "explain" why Harry was going to be married at Windsor. Of course, some want to believe what they want to believe.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on February 17, 2018, 10:49:46 pm
Charles' wedding was a full 'state- wedding' as was The Queen's. The term 'semi-state' wasn't invented for William's but was used for other royal weddings.

Of course William had to have the grander affair as he is the future King.

St George's Chapel isn't all that small - larger than many churches and even some cathedrals - and the site of a number of royal weddings in the past, including the then Prince of Wales, Edward VII to Queen Alexandra. George V had a smaller venue (and he was in the same position as William) married in the Chapel Royal at St James' Palace.

Harry marrying at St George's reflects his place in the line of succession and his relationship to the monarch - by his wedding he will be 6th (and if Kate has twins 7th meaning he won't even need the Queen's permission to marry - as Andrew won't after the baby is born) and only a grandchild of the reigning monarch who is moving more and more into surplus to requirements - as happened to Andrew and Margaret before him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 17, 2018, 11:00:01 pm
Harry will be working and not be diminished until the older tots reach their twenties and when the yet to be born child (or twins) come of age.  Charles made it clear Harry would be part of the scaled down monarchy. George or Charlotte will be going to school and George probably to Sandhurst and very likely both will go to University. Giving them to ca. 23 when they start doing royal duties.  George as future King and Charlotte as Princess Royal (down the road) will probably be active. The younger one or ones will probably do less.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Little light on February 17, 2018, 11:33:50 pm
^^

I was under the impression that the reason PC had a full state wedding was because he is the Heir to the Throne.

And because PW is the heir to the heir, his was not a full state wedding. But seasoned posters will probably know more than I. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 18, 2018, 12:11:46 am
^ That was the reason given I think, yes. Charles's & Diana's wedding was huge though, doubtful another wedding on that insane scale will happen again...  :dontknow:

Whilst H's line in the succession is dropping further down and the number seems high, he's still the second most important person after the heir (Charles). The succession is set, of course, but you can't really count the children into anything, incl. the scale of H's wedding being as such because he's dropped so low in the succession. In the order of importance is still the adults only, really, so: Charles, Will, Harry. Harry is still pretty high up and will stay pretty high up until his nephew(s?) and niece(s?) can step up. Esp. considering the plan for the scaled down monarchy for the future... His wedding is bound to be the last big one until the next generation grows up (i.e. George, Charlotte and Cambs3 become adults), so that's the last big royal wedding until at least a good 20 years' time (assuming the Winds/ monarchy will prevail and be still intact), and it turns out to be a scaled down affair in Windsor, apparently not even televized..


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 18, 2018, 01:00:44 am
There will be of course small scale weddings in future for: Beatrice and later, Louise and James.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 18, 2018, 01:04:24 am
^ Yes that definitely, and likely before G or his siblings walk down the aisle, but the next bigshot big gun wedding will be a Camb sprog one's!
And count possibly Andy and Fergie, the second act, into "small scale" too lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 18, 2018, 01:12:15 am
“She fits into a black woman’s narrative, but not a British black woman’s narrative.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/961555140795863046
 
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 18, 2018, 04:04:40 am
^She doesn't fit into a black woman's narrative. She doesn't represent black women at all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on February 18, 2018, 07:41:12 am
Harry will be working and not be diminished until the older tots reach their twenties and when the yet to be born child (or twins) come of age.  Charles made it clear Harry would be part of the scaled down monarchy. George or Charlotte will be going to school and George probably to Sandhurst and very likely both will go to University. Giving them to ca. 23 when they start doing royal duties.  George as future King and Charlotte as Princess Royal (down the road) will probably be active. The younger one or ones will probably do less.

Harry will become less important as the years go by - not next week of course but even now he is so far from the throne as to be largely irrelevant to the future of the family - not the work but the future.

Andrew is only one place lower in the line of succession and has been regarded as largely irrelevant since William was born in 1982. By that criteria Harry is also largely irrelevant. He isn't going to be King. His children aren't going to be needed as working royals.

The balcony scene from 2012 that some people use to show what Charles sees as the future of the monarchy is putting too much onto that scene - which was simply a re-creation of the balcony from Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee which was only Victoria, her son and his family and nothing to do with making the royal family smaller. There is absolutely no actual evidence of that idea at all. There was a throw away line from a minor staffer in 1992 that he had heard Charles make that suggestion at the now defunct Way Ahead Group meeting - one comment and it has been repeated over and over and over to the point where many people take it as gospel. I have even seen some people suggest Charles intends on stopping his siblings working and only having himself, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry and Meghan when there is no evidence at all that he would stop his siblings or his mother's cousins from working. What is being made clear is that the children of younger children of the monarch will be expected to make their own way in the world and not expect to live on the hand-outs from the monarch from the Duchy of Lancaster.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 18, 2018, 11:58:50 am
Harry and Meghan have an evening out together!

https://mobile.twitter.com/lesliegbowman/status/965003393545703424


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 18, 2018, 12:06:25 pm
Harry will be working and not be diminished until the older tots reach their twenties and when the yet to be born child (or twins) come of age.  Charles made it clear Harry would be part of the scaled down monarchy. George or Charlotte will be going to school and George probably to Sandhurst and very likely both will go to University. Giving them to ca. 23 when they start doing royal duties.  George as future King and Charlotte as Princess Royal (down the road) will probably be active. The younger one or ones will probably do less.

Harry will become less important as the years go by - not next week of course but even now he is so far from the throne as to be largely irrelevant to the future of the family - not the work but the future.

Andrew is only one place lower in the line of succession and has been regarded as largely irrelevant since William was born in 1982. By that criteria Harry is also largely irrelevant. He isn't going to be King. His children aren't going to be needed as working royals.

The balcony scene from 2012 that some people use to show what Charles sees as the future of the monarchy is putting too much onto that scene - which was simply a re-creation of the balcony from Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee which was only Victoria, her son and his family and nothing to do with making the royal family smaller. There is absolutely no actual evidence of that idea at all. There was a throw away line from a minor staffer in 1992 that he had heard Charles make that suggestion at the now defunct Way Ahead Group meeting - one comment and it has been repeated over and over and over to the point where many people take it as gospel. I have even seen some people suggest Charles intends on stopping his siblings working and only having himself, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry and Meghan when there is no evidence at all that he would stop his siblings or his mother's cousins from working. What is being made clear is that the children of younger children of the monarch will be expected to make their own way in the world and not expect to live on the hand-outs from the monarch from the Duchy of Lancaster.

Andrew (and later paired with Fergie) still did royal duties and was not "irrelevant" when WIlliam was a baby. He was still quite prominent and even had the grand wedding at Westminster four years after WIlliam came along.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 18, 2018, 12:27:57 pm
and harry is even more prominent than andrew was then and he's getting married at windsor... very obvious why...

There will be of course small scale weddings in future for: Beatrice and later, Louise and James.
who knows what'll be the state of monarchy then? better question: will there be a monarchy in 10/15 years?



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 18, 2018, 12:32:26 pm
Different times back then. ANd Andrew was and is allegedly the Queen's favorite. I also think they are scaling back today.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 18, 2018, 04:27:08 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5405331/Prince-wins-Commonwealth-role-bid-younger-people.html
I remeber reading about this last year. IMO, this is why MM wasn't dealt with last year and is "engaged" to him now. The easing of some commonwealth countries had to be done and perhaps Harry had to remain in the news too. Now I believe that Charles will also get the position of head of state upon the queens passing, MM can no be discarded. She brings nothing to the role of Harry's wife and what she'd need to be to assist him in his job. People are very muh turned off by MM's fake persona and her constant lies and exaggeration.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 18, 2018, 05:34:51 pm
@Rosella  Why do you like MM? Or is it you dislike Harry and he deserves her. I'm serious...WHY???????


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 18, 2018, 08:06:58 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5405331/Prince-wins-Commonwealth-role-bid-younger-people.html
I remeber reading about this last year. IMO, this is why MM wasn't dealt with last year and is "engaged" to him now. The easing of some commonwealth countries had to be done and perhaps Harry had to remain in the news too. Now I believe that Charles will also get the position of head of state upon the queens passing, MM can no be discarded. She brings nothing to the role of Harry's wife and what she'd need to be to assist him in his job. People are very muh turned off by MM's fake persona and her constant lies and exaggeration.

This is something that should have gone to Charles, since Charles has proven his worth more than one time over the course of his time as Prince of Wales. This would be perfect training for Prince Charles and I am sure Harry will mess this up. Harry did well with Invictus, but he hasn't sustained that successful momentum and as we know now, he'll be dropping Invictus. Then of course, Meg will queen herself as Harry's consort and I am sure there'll be some drama there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on February 18, 2018, 08:24:15 pm
^Maybe they're getting the message that the majority think they're irrelevant


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 18, 2018, 09:01:31 pm
KF, Harry's dealing with the youth and Charles will be the head of state like the queen is now. I don't expect anyone else to succeed the queen upon her death. Harry's not dropping the IG as he said during the games in Torronto that he's going to continue being involved. IMO, I can't help but think that Wills is the mess-up and Harry's taking the fall for it having to deal with MM. What I'm very glad to see though is that the public sees her as being fake and only about the money and could care less about Harry or any issues that he's involved with.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 18, 2018, 09:02:26 pm
Harry has toured the Commonwealth Caribbean twice and quite obviously did very well, as the Commonwealth Secretariat and the Queen would not have agreed to this new role otherwise. He never messed up one duty! This will be a roving Ambassador type role not one that Charles, who is increasingly deputising for his mother in Britain, could take on at all. Plus, Charles will take a leading role meeting and greeting CHOGM leaders. Harry will help in this and will speak at Youth Forums etc, a quite different position. I hope he and Meghan do tour Australia as well as coming for Invictus. It would be an excellent idea. William may well be there too, meeting and greeting.

Charles is seeking the role of symbolic Head of the Commonwealth, not Head of State. The only head of state is the Queen, of Britain. He could hardly combine that with an ambassadorial type role for youth of the organisation. Whether Charles gets to be Head after the Queen's passing is debatable, but I hope so. No country has said that it wishes to leave the Commonwealth. There are some countries which are waiting to join so it's not going to fall to bits!!

As for Harry's popularity, he received in the last three polls conducted by three different respected polling companies in Britain, an 81% approval rating on the latest, a 76% on the second and a 74% on the earliest, which was late last year. In the latest Meghan was included in a review not in the actual survey and got a 53% positive response to 8% against.

I posted all of those results here. So there is nothing wrong with Harry's popularity and Meghan's isn't too bad either. As a long term follower of his since he was 19, it's something I'm glad to see.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 18, 2018, 09:07:13 pm
'When she wakes up she has nowhere to go' - Meghan Markle is 'overwhelmed' by confines of royal life

Meghan Markle is reportedly struggling to ingratiate herself into royal life as she prepares to wed Britain's Prince Harry in May.

The American actress (36) moved to London last year before announcing her engagement to the 33-year-old royal and has been slowly inching her way into public life with carefully choreographed appearances alongside her fiancé around the UK. While royal watchers have praised her natural confidence at such engagements, Markle is said to be slow in adjusting to her new way of life.

She no longer enjoys the anonymity of her former life in Toronto, where she filmed hit US show Suits, and is instead relatively confined within the gates of Kensington Palace, where she and Harry live in a two-bedroom property Nottingham Cottage.

Prior to him popping the question, she could be pictured shopping around London in low-key fashion, without the glare of the world's media following her every move. And she has turned to Harry's stepmother Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, for practical advice.

"Meghan may appear confident when on royal walkabouts, but she does have some pre-wedding butterflies – not about Harry, but about her new life," a source told the Mail on Sunday.

"As Diana once famously said, 'there is no manual', so Camilla is the best thing Meghan has. Camilla is happy to help."

The tv star is also reportedly turning to her future sister-in-law Kate Middleton, who had 10 years to adjust to the realities of public scrutiny before marrying Prince Wililam in 2011, but the couple are busy with their children Prince George and Princess Charlotte, and preparing for another new arrival in April.

"KP [Kensington Palace] is beautiful, but when Meghan wakes up she has nowhere to go, really," the insider added.

"She can’t potter about on the High Street, attend gym classes, or jog around Hyde Park. Instead she is confined to yoga at home or visits to Kate and William in Apartment 1A."

Last month, a body language expert suggested that Meghan is nervous at official engagements, crediting her habit of fidgeting with her hair a telltale sign.

Elizabeth Kuhnke, author of Body Language for Dummies, told Femail that fidgeting with hair is a tactic women often use to settle themselves when they feel under pressure or uncomfortable.

“It’s the adult version of a child clutching favourite toy, mother’s skirt or father’s hand when feeling anxious and not knowing what to do or say,” she said.

"When feeling nervous - knowing millions of people are watching and judging - tilting one’s head down and playing with hair is a tell of the psychological state of the need to shield or protect herself."

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/when-she-wakes-up-she-has-nowhere-to-go-meghan-markle-is-overwhelmed-by-confines-of-royal-life-36616017.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 18, 2018, 09:52:32 pm
^The hair fidgeting may be nervousness but she wouldn't have to touch her hair it if she would wear it in a half up, ponytail or bun, the latter is what she favors. And even with the messy bun, she has a few whisps hanging in front and then she puts them behind her ears.  :Kate:

Poor Megs, trapped in a palace, please.  :there: I'm sure she can still go places. Rosella posted up thread that Harry and Megs went to see Hamilton.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 18, 2018, 10:46:10 pm
Sorry, I don't feel sorry for her. She chose to date Harry and to accept his proposal. Nobody forced this on her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on February 19, 2018, 12:12:33 am
Nowhere to go? Could it be because she has no life? Yes, by jolly I think so!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 19, 2018, 01:13:58 am
'When she wakes up she has nowhere to go' - Meghan Markle is 'overwhelmed' by confines of royal life

Meghan Markle is reportedly struggling to ingratiate herself into royal life as she prepares to wed Britain's Prince Harry in May.

The American actress (36) moved to London last year before announcing her engagement to the 33-year-old royal and has been slowly inching her way into public life with carefully choreographed appearances alongside her fiancé around the UK. While royal watchers have praised her natural confidence at such engagements, Markle is said to be slow in adjusting to her new way of life.

She no longer enjoys the anonymity of her former life in Toronto, where she filmed hit US show Suits, and is instead relatively confined within the gates of Kensington Palace, where she and Harry live in a two-bedroom property Nottingham Cottage.

Prior to him popping the question, she could be pictured shopping around London in low-key fashion, without the glare of the world's media following her every move. And she has turned to Harry's stepmother Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, for practical advice.

"Meghan may appear confident when on royal walkabouts, but she does have some pre-wedding butterflies – not about Harry, but about her new life," a source told the Mail on Sunday.

"As Diana once famously said, 'there is no manual', so Camilla is the best thing Meghan has. Camilla is happy to help."

The tv star is also reportedly turning to her future sister-in-law Kate Middleton, who had 10 years to adjust to the realities of public scrutiny before marrying Prince Wililam in 2011, but the couple are busy with their children Prince George and Princess Charlotte, and preparing for another new arrival in April.

"KP [Kensington Palace] is beautiful, but when Meghan wakes up she has nowhere to go, really," the insider added.

"She can’t potter about on the High Street, attend gym classes, or jog around Hyde Park. Instead she is confined to yoga at home or visits to Kate and William in Apartment 1A."

Last month, a body language expert suggested that Meghan is nervous at official engagements, crediting her habit of fidgeting with her hair a telltale sign.

Elizabeth Kuhnke, author of Body Language for Dummies, told Femail that fidgeting with hair is a tactic women often use to settle themselves when they feel under pressure or uncomfortable.

“It’s the adult version of a child clutching favourite toy, mother’s skirt or father’s hand when feeling anxious and not knowing what to do or say,” she said.

"When feeling nervous - knowing millions of people are watching and judging - tilting one’s head down and playing with hair is a tell of the psychological state of the need to shield or protect herself."

https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/when-she-wakes-up-she-has-nowhere-to-go-meghan-markle-is-overwhelmed-by-confines-of-royal-life-36616017.html

I think she's so infantile; she chased fame for much of her life, is getting the role of a lifetime, and is basically suddenly finding royal life confining? BS. She's hardly been getting swamped by the media and no one is trying to chase her car down. It's not like she's someone who is in great demand.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 19, 2018, 01:33:13 am
If she's so serious about causes, she can use the time to find out about the ones she is most interested in (with Palace approval) and start meeting with reps from the charities. She would have all her charities/patronages sorted out by the wedding day. Plenty of opportunities if she decides to pursue this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 19, 2018, 01:45:41 am
^ That would be a good use of her time while she's waiting around to get married and can't work a normal day job.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 19, 2018, 02:06:32 am
 :king:SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: By George! Meghan Markle and Prince Harry attend a West End show that mocks his ancestor
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A spokesman for the hit show at London’s Victoria Palace Theatre confirms the royal ‘private visit’, and a fellow audience member tells me: ‘They seemed to love it and were applauding enthusiastically.’
It was, however, too dark to record Harry’s reaction to the scene in which his ancestor, George III, is mocked mercilessly. The English king (played by Michael Jibson, pictured) is portrayed as a ‘puddingish, catty’ figure who stamps his foot on the floor cartoonishly, saying he is feeling blue at the loss of his colony.
A Kensington Palace spokesman declines to comment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5406947/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-musical-Hamilton.html
 :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 19, 2018, 02:47:27 am
@Sandy - That would make complete sense if she were actually serious about the work. All this tells me is that her impression of this life was the celebrity aspect seen in magazines rather than the mundane aspects that make up 95% of royal life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on February 19, 2018, 03:12:38 am
^ But, but, but....she is poised to nurture the world, one camera sight line at a time!  You know, just like she’s nurtured her family.

I wanted to like her....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 19, 2018, 03:49:00 am
^I did as well but there are way too many red flags for me to reason away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 19, 2018, 04:42:46 am
She is not going to like the confinement. That is why she will eventually bolt when she gets enough out of it. It is so obvious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on February 19, 2018, 05:33:58 am
Sorry I read that wrong.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on February 19, 2018, 06:13:00 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5405331/Prince-wins-Commonwealth-role-bid-younger-people.html
I remeber reading about this last year. IMO, this is why MM wasn't dealt with last year and is "engaged" to him now. The easing of some commonwealth countries had to be done and perhaps Harry had to remain in the news too. Now I believe that Charles will also get the position of head of state upon the queens passing, MM can no be discarded. She brings nothing to the role of Harry's wife and what she'd need to be to assist him in his job. People are very muh turned off by MM's fake persona and her constant lies and exaggeration.


There has never been any discussion about Charles not becoming Head of State when his mother dies. That is automatic. The only way to stop it for him to have predecease his mother. There are some people who would prefer William as the next King but there has been no discussions to attempt to by-pass Charles as King of the UK and thus its Head of State.

The question is will he become Head of the Commonwealth. That position isn't automatic but will probably go to Charles anyway for the simple reason that the British monarch is the least controversial way of choosing the Head of the Commonwealth if the Commonwealth is to remain a force at all into the future. Keeping the 53 very different countries of the Commonwealth together isn't easy and a non-partisan Head of the Commonwealth makes sense. Head of the Commonwealth is not a Head of State though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 19, 2018, 06:29:53 am
^ I always thought it would automatically go to Charles, as he's the heir. William is Charles's heir, he wouldn't be next. I don't know how people think it can skip Charles and go to William, that's not how it works.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 19, 2018, 07:26:11 am
She is not going to like the confinement. That is why she will eventually bolt when she gets enough out of it. It is so obvious.

Yes it is. Whoever thought that a superficial and calculatingly ambitious Cali woman like M will be a good idea for the brf, a breath of fresh air, modernization for brf  must have been out of their mind.

She's not liked because of the kind of perso  she is, not because of external factors like divorcee, american or mixed race. The only way she can walk away now is with a bag of cash.

Independent.ie by the way is MM's PR outlet so this article imo is testing the ground to see how quickly she can claim the victim 'royal confinements' card like Princess Diana.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 19, 2018, 12:03:11 pm
It's nothing like Diana who was confined to Buckingham Palace during the engagement. MEghan is free to come and go as she pleases and is not confined to a suite of rooms, isolated for a few months.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 19, 2018, 01:16:49 pm
diana felt isolated too during her 1rst years in marriage, especially during her pregnancy with William... she complained to a lot of people she had nothing to do whole time. She wasnt always with Charles in engagements. Then people around her said with the time she'll have a routine as going to the  trooping the colour etc.

As Diana, I think Meghan also will be bored out of her mind with the royal life, being around people who she has to nothing to do with, no affinities etc  (for diana the issue was they were much older, they had nothing in common, to talk about). Meghan isnt a country person too. All that protocol, rules. Her life isnt only going to premieres and galas... there's whole boringness she'll have put up with. As Diana, she'll be around people who the loyalties are to Harry/Windsor husband.

As I've always said the ambitions of Meghan are going to bite her back...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 19, 2018, 04:06:43 pm
Deleted at poster’s request.  Wrong thread.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 19, 2018, 04:08:51 pm
Sorry please erase my last post it is on the wrong thread.

Done!   :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 19, 2018, 05:54:18 pm
By George! Meghan Markle and Prince Harry attend Hamilton, the West End show that mocks his ancestor

Meghan Markle declared that she would give up acting after becoming engaged to Prince Harry, but she’s still thrilled by the smell of the greasepaint and the roar of the crowd.

This weekend, the former star of legal drama Suits took her fiance to see hip-hop musical Hamilton, which tells the story of Alexander Hamilton, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States.

A spokesman for the hit show at London’s Victoria Palace Theatre confirms the royal ‘private visit’, and a fellow audience member tells me: ‘They seemed to love it and were applauding enthusiastically.’

It was, however, too dark to record Harry’s reaction to the scene in which his ancestor, George III, is mocked mercilessly. The English king (played by Michael Jibson, pictured) is portrayed as a ‘puddingish, catty’ figure who stamps his foot on the floor cartoonishly, saying he is feeling blue at the loss of his colony.

Although George III is remembered mainly for losing both the American colonies and his sanity, he is said to be the monarch that Harry’s father, Prince Charles, respects most.

During a visit to a school in London’s Pimlico in 2012, Charles described the king as a good man who was simply misunderstood.

Previously, he told a television documentary that George — who, like him, loved the countryside and had a strong interest in architecture — was one of Britain’s most dutiful, cultured and misunderstood rulers.

‘George III led Britain through 60 years of enormous social upheaval, industrial revolution and terrible hardships inflicted by war with Napoleon,’ the Prince said in 2004. ‘Yet history remembered him above all as the “mad king” or the “king who lost America”. This is a travesty.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5406947/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-musical-Hamilton.html#ixzz57ZtEbjSV
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 19, 2018, 10:07:46 pm
Amazingly, Harry, William and Charles all have three lines of descent from George III.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 19, 2018, 10:57:24 pm
This is kind of impolitic; his ancestor is being mocked and derided and this would hit a nerve if I ended up watching one of my ancestors being insulted on stage.

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Meghan Markle declared that she would give up acting after becoming engaged to Prince Harry, but she’s still thrilled by the smell of the greasepaint and the roar of the crowd.

Say what? She's not someone who was on the stage of a saloon or tawdry acting house. She was an actress in a television series and certainly she was not much in front of a live television audience.

diana felt isolated too during her 1rst years in marriage, especially during her pregnancy with William... she complained to a lot of people she had nothing to do whole time. She wasnt always with Charles in engagements. Then people around her said with the time she'll have a routine as going to the  trooping the colour etc.

As Diana, I think Meghan also will be bored out of her mind with the royal life, being around people who she has to nothing to do with, no affinities etc  (for diana the issue was they were much older, they had nothing in common, to talk about). Meghan isnt a country person too. All that protocol, rules. Her life isnt only going to premieres and galas... there's whole boringness she'll have put up with. As Diana, she'll be around people who the loyalties are to Harry/Windsor husband.

As I've always said the ambitions of Meghan are going to bite her back...

I think the isolation will take it's toll, which will send her into the arms of the wrong people. She might take up with Victoria Beckham and might take up with the many bad news types she will feel most comfortable around who will feed her angst. Unlike Diana, she will be in a situation where she will have no allies; Diana was a courtier and was surrounded by courtiers who did want her to do well and I don't think all the courtiers are all straight up evil. Diana had the public, the media, her charity workers, so many who cared about her and clearly Meg doesn't even have the public's goodwill. I am certain that the life of humdrum day to day respectable routine will in fact bore her to tears and clearly Meg will manage to find a stable milieu, but she'll blow it through her more 'bohemian' preferences. Life if puzzles and chats with courtiers and staid dinner parties won't satisfy her ambitions.

Check how fierce she looks here: https://youtu.be/tfaGleA4qYo

There is no way she's going to end up being shy or demure or make the jobs of the courtiers easy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 19, 2018, 11:55:00 pm
Meghan gets an official aide to help with her Calendar in the months to come.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5408863/Meghan-Markle-gets-official-help-form-royal-aide.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 20, 2018, 12:33:27 am
^that was announced during the Cardiff trip, so it's od that it's in the papers again today when Kate and Sophie's enjoying hosting a fashion event at Buckingham Palace. This woman's not going to be busy as thankfully MM seems to go missing for weeks after each pr/public engagement and articles saying that she has no where to go and is nervous about royal life.

https://felix2001a.tumblr.com/post/171069324060/iamstillskippy-these-are-her-top-stories-slim

Chrissy Teigen remembered being a briefcase model with Meghan Markle on "Deal or No Deal," and joked that she could be "Princess Harry"
https://hellogiggles.com/news/chrissy-teigen-briefcase-model-meghan-markle-deal-or-no-deal/
I find CT a bit crass and doesn't give too hoots what she says or does as long as her name's spelt right. I don't get her with John Legend at all as he comes across classy.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 20, 2018, 07:49:57 am
^ Yeah.. CT should be ignored, she's only happy when she's in any kind of paper, by hook or crook, incl publicity stunts (eg being [near] naked on the red carpet and posting her own naked pics on social media). It's always best to ignore her :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 21, 2018, 12:08:24 pm
Australians unswayed by royal engagement as support for monarchy hits record low
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The engagement of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle has not turned young Australians into royalists, with a new poll showing support for the monarchy is at a record low and is weakest among those aged 18 to 34.
The survey of 1,000 people conducted by market research company Research Now found 52% of Australians support a shift to a republic, while 25% are unsure and 22% prefer the monarchy.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/21/australians-unswayed-by-royal-nuptials-as-support-for-monarchy-hits-record-low
This is great in terms of another reason why this union’s poison. The next IG is in Australia in October and sponsors are required to help pay for the games.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/84ca8457cf8e822ab35b5ef993e59816/tumblr_p4hhfolrwm1w3nsrbo1_1280.pngCelebrities are following this chap. I like that it’s the entertainment community that’s taking gabs at her and agreeing that she’s a social climber and a user instead of having dirt about her come out and she can play the victim. Her own character and actions are bringing her down.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 21, 2018, 03:16:37 pm
He should have stuck to the commonwealth countries like Canada and Australia to pick a bride if he had to stray from the UK. I'm sure there's someone out there that's right for him in addition to Megan who will be a disaster down the line. Well he will live and hopefully learn


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 21, 2018, 03:42:28 pm
Australians unswayed by royal engagement as support for monarchy hits record low
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The engagement of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle has not turned young Australians into royalists, with a new poll showing support for the monarchy is at a record low and is weakest among those aged 18 to 34.
The survey of 1,000 people conducted by market research company Research Now found 52% of Australians support a shift to a republic, while 25% are unsure and 22% prefer the monarchy.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/21/australians-unswayed-by-royal-nuptials-as-support-for-monarchy-hits-record-low
This is great in terms of another reason why this union’s poison. The next IG is in Australia in October and sponsors are required to help pay for the games.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/84ca8457cf8e822ab35b5ef993e59816/tumblr_p4hhfolrwm1w3nsrbo1_1280.pngCelebrities are following this chap. I like that it’s the entertainment community that’s taking gabs at her and agreeing that she’s a social climber and a user instead of having dirt about her come out and she can play the victim. Her own character and actions are bringing her down.
about the time canada and australia left commonwealth... even charles said in early 1980s he didnt understand why the queen was head of state of  such a far-away county...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 21, 2018, 04:08:51 pm
Salamat po! Filipino fans left delighted after Meghan Markle thanked them in their native language during her recent visit to Edinburgh

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5416835/Filipino-fans-delighted-Meghan-Markle-spoke-Tagalog.html#ixzz57l9hrYNW
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 21, 2018, 04:15:43 pm
Not difficult to learn a thank you sentence in any language is it. Give me a break, she is hardly Mother Theresa, far from it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 21, 2018, 04:59:51 pm
^Seriously! Its not like she had a whole conversation in their native tongue. This is the definition of fishing for something to write about.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 21, 2018, 07:10:37 pm
Countdown to the Royal Wedding: Why Meghan Markle Could Become the Next Princess Diana
There's something a little bit different about the British royal family nowadays. Sure, 2018 is going to bring us some extra family members: Prince George and Princess Charlotte will be getting a new sibling and we have a wedding to look forward to. But with Meghan Markle in the mix, it feels like we may also be gaining a new People's Princess.

Meghan Markle's influence has jokingly been referred to as the "Markle Sparkle," a phrase that seems particularly fitting considering her glamourous past. But as we edge closer to her May wedding date, it's becoming clear she's having a much bigger impact on the House of Windsor than any of us could have possibly predicted.

It's been less than three months since Prince Harry got down on one knee and yet already his bride-to-be is winning over public hearts and evoking memories of another former Kensington Palace resident, Harry's mom, Princess Diana.
The comparisons became glaringly obvious last week when it emerged Meghan has been making a number of top-secret visits to comfort victims of the Grenfell Tower fire. Undercover charity operations such as this are highly unusual considering Royal schedules are planned weeks, if not months, in advance. "Meghan's visits mean so much to us. She has a special place in our hearts," said one community member who was lucky enough to meet her. Her actions are reminiscent of the days when Diana would sneak out of Kensington Palace to visit hospital patients and the homeless, unannounced. She even took a then 12-year-old Prince William on one of her trips to visit a shelter so he could understand how different life really was on the other side of the palace gates.
http://www.eonline.com/news/915159/countdown-to-the-royal-wedding-why-meghan-markle-could-become-the-next-princess-diana

First it was Kate the next Diana now its Meghan why cant the the press just stop with the next ,and let these women be


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 21, 2018, 07:42:12 pm
Having the Queen as Head of State as Canada, Australia and New Zealand have and being in the Commonwealth are two very different things.

Even if these countries become republics (not a certainty by any means as far as Australia is concerned. This was a survey commissioned by the Australian Republican Movement, with a skewed question asked) they won't leave the Commonwealth. Most countries in the Commonwealth are republics anyway. They didn't break away when they became republics and they aren't exactly begging to leave. In fact there are some countries that are waiting to join.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 21, 2018, 07:48:50 pm
Countdown to the Royal Wedding: Why Meghan Markle Could Become the Next Princess Diana
There's something a little bit different about the British royal family nowadays. Sure, 2018 is going to bring us some extra family members: Prince George and Princess Charlotte will be getting a new sibling and we have a wedding to look forward to. But with Meghan Markle in the mix, it feels like we may also be gaining a new People's Princess.

Meghan Markle's influence has jokingly been referred to as the "Markle Sparkle," a phrase that seems particularly fitting considering her glamourous past. But as we edge closer to her May wedding date, it's becoming clear she's having a much bigger impact on the House of Windsor than any of us could have possibly predicted.
It's been less than three months since Prince Harry got down on one knee and yet already his bride-to-be is winning over public hearts and evoking memories of another former Kensington Palace resident, Harry's mom, Princess Diana.
The comparisons became glaringly obvious last week when it emerged Meghan has been making a number of top-secret visits to comfort victims of the Grenfell Tower fire. Undercover charity operations such as this are highly unusual considering Royal schedules are planned weeks, if not months, in advance. "Meghan's visits mean so much to us. She has a special place in our hearts," said one community member who was lucky enough to meet her. Her actions are reminiscent of the days when Diana would sneak out of Kensington Palace to visit hospital patients and the homeless, unannounced. She even took a then 12-year-old Prince William on one of her trips to visit a shelter so he could understand how different life really was on the other side of the palace gates.
http://www.eonline.com/news/915159/countdown-to-the-royal-wedding-why-meghan-markle-could-become-the-next-princess-diana
First it was Kate the next Diana now its Meghan why cant the the press just stop with the next ,and let these women be

Because the press wants someone to make easy money off of. They want the old days of frenzy and drama and big checks for pictures; that kind of thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 21, 2018, 08:24:59 pm
true



Meghan Markle’s heart is in the right place and she is completely authentic… so lay off
THIS being Britain, it comes as no surprise that people have wasted no time in criticising Meghan Markle.

Who does she think she is for trying to be Princess Diana with her secret visits to survivors of the Grenfell fire tragedy? And how dare she dress in casual attire?
I guess there will always be mean-spirited moaners.

But what I see is a young woman in love who wants to share her joy and good fortune, and to do good.

Her heart is in the right place and she is completely authentic. Meghan is just what the Royal Family needs.

When she was trying to break into Hollywood, she worked as a calligrapher and briefly wrote wedding invitations for a living.
So I wasn’t surprised when she told a volunteer in Edinburgh last week that she actually wanted to write her own.

She also revealed, of course, that she’d been advised not to because she is too busy doing royal duties.

But it’s a reminder that, like all women, Meghan wants her wedding to be a personal occasion.

I am sure everyone — from her future in-laws to their advisors — is being “helpful” with suggestions about what needs to happen and when. Just what every bride needs!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5602631/karren-brady-meghan-markles-heart-is-in-the-right-place/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 21, 2018, 08:45:06 pm
^yeah, right.  :tehe: The only thing she’s authentic with is social climbing. She’s a fake who’ll do and say anything to get ahead. It’s so ridiculous as she’s a 36 year old woman who’s been married before but year the press wants to throw in the Diana angle. Funny how she said she’d like to write her own invites. She should be able to do that surely.  :cookie:




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 21, 2018, 09:00:59 pm
^ Indeed, she has more than enough time to write her own invites, I don't know what the bs part of "she’d been advised not to because she is too busy doing royal duties" is supposed to be, what royal duties? The odd appearance across the UK to "get to know" the UK and "royal duties"? They make her sound like she's busier than Vic of Sweden, ridiculous. This piece reads like it came hot off the keyboard from Meg's computer frankly. It's definitely her camp's work. :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on February 21, 2018, 09:26:12 pm
No one is Diana, Princess of Wales as she had a unique circumstance. Her romance life did not work out and she diverted her energies and love into charities. And she had emotional problems too.  None of the new ones are her. So it is ridiculous to write that and it is true, people are just trying for an angle to sell magazines, etc. Any one of us in the position of being either Harry's or William's wife are going to do charity work. It is their job along with glitzy parties. Now MM is breaking in and the only way to get support is to do charity and show she is selfless. Whether she is or isn't on her own is irrelevant. Because now she has to be. Nothing special about that.  If she has kids, she will also be less available. Now is a good time and she needs good publicity. Many people just plain don't like her. So of course she is doing secret visits that are being published for some calculated reason.  She didn't do them when she was on Suits. She didn't need to. So enough of her selfless nonsense. It behooves her to do this. Now she may like it. I would as I like to help people. If it were my job, I'd do a lot more of it. Not a bad job to have especially with her benefits.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 22, 2018, 02:20:35 am
Anybody would have had "emotional problems" being married to someone as dysfunctional as Prince Charles. I don't know how she stood being in his proximity let along married to him.  The "emotional problems" spin is to try to whitewash the nasty behavior of C and C. ANd I don't buy it.

That said. The young royals seem to sail along doing a lot of "fun" patronages like movies and sports.  I think Meghan and Kate should both do more serious duties and not just the fun things. And William and Harry too.

There's also no reason why having children would or should keep them from working. It's not like they are professionals who are married and raising children. Working women do manage. The royal women like Kate and perhaps Meghan are treated like glass because they give birth to and have children. It's not as if they work 35 hours a week like the rest of us.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 22, 2018, 12:23:22 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Meghan Markle and Prince Harry in anthrax terror scare as letter containing white powder is sent to royal couple at Kensington Palace
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Miss Markle will become an official member of the Royal Family following her wedding but she has already been given round the clock protection.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421781/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-anthrax-terror-scare.html
Sad that people don’t care per some DM comments. This is the level of disgust people have towards them now. People are jokingly saying it’s het stas; drugs. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 22, 2018, 02:31:19 pm
I think people have every right to express their views but when a few "extremists" and "fanatics" go into the mix it gets downright scary. Threatening people that way is sick. People are free to be disgusted with them but when it gets to sending white powder that is totally and extremely unacceptable and criminal. Nobody should be threatened that way.  People's indifference does not make it any better. If people don't like them fine, but when it gets to the twisted level it's downright dangerous. What if one or both were injured or killed? Harry or Meghan should not have their lives threatened that way. I have seen a few comments where people wish Meghan dead or sterile. Fortunately they were removed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 22, 2018, 04:21:05 pm
No longer the third wheel! Meghan will accompany Harry on a joint engagement with Kate and William for the first time - as the foursome launch the first Royal Foundation Forum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5422457/Prince-William-Kate-Harry-Meghan-joint-engagement.html
This just goes on and on doesn’t it. This is unforgivable having this fake attend this event. The event seems like something that’s not been done before as they’re explaining why it was set up and the projects that they’re working on. They’re going to be onstage in front of people that support the foundation. It’s a forum hosted by a BBC presenter. She can talk of her fake humanitarian efforts.
Now there was a “racist” comment in the letter/package. I love it that people are saying it’s fake news and others are saying it’s her pr that sent it to garner sympathy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 22, 2018, 04:37:03 pm
One of the comments said: "Nothing regal about Smeghal."  :laugh: That's the best new nickname!

And some commenter keeps bringing up Meg's dog that broke its legs  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 22, 2018, 04:42:09 pm
Yes, one can see that the ranters on the Fail always reach the height of wit and sophisticated comment. So noticeable!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 22, 2018, 04:42:39 pm
I don't think these are nice comments. Name calling is not "sophisticated" it wounds like a pre teen trying to be "funny."They enable the ones (haters or fanatics) to send powder to the couple IMO anyway. I hope Meghan or Harry are not stalked or hurt by people who may take the comments all too seriously. Some are hoping the powder will help break them up. I find that very twisted thinking and really scary.

Hinting that Meghan helped break her dog's legs is just mean. the poster forgets how royals tortured animals at fox hunts and blast animals leaving them to die painful deaths. Why is Harry not called out for that? Some fairness here please.

Windsor if Meghan did not appear she'd be blasted. Damned if she does damned if she doesn't. I don't see her as "fake." If she does a decent amount of work it's a plus for the royals. At least she does not sit out work and have excuses galore made for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 22, 2018, 05:02:59 pm
PEOPLE :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 22, 2018, 05:06:53 pm
The DM does not help matters with click bait article headlines. Very unsubtle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on February 22, 2018, 05:12:05 pm
No longer the third wheel! Meghan will accompany Harry on a joint engagement with Kate and William for the first time - as the foursome launch the first Royal Foundation Forum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5422457/Prince-William-Kate-Harry-Meghan-joint-engagement.html
This just goes on and on doesn’t it. This is unforgivable having this fake attend this event. The event seems like something that’s not been done before as they’re explaining why it was set up and the projects that they’re working on. They’re going to be onstage in front of people that support the foundation. It’s a forum hosted by a BBC presenter. She can talk of her fake humanitarian efforts.
Now there was a “racist” comment in the letter/package. I love it that people are saying it’s fake news and others are saying it’s her pr that sent it to garner sympathy.

It takes four of them for one engagement?  This is ridiculous.  It will be wonderful, snark-making fun but ridiculous nonetheless. 

Are the Royals thinking that sending all four of the next generation is going to turn the tide of public opinion?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 22, 2018, 05:16:58 pm
they going for the fantastic four

when it comes to clickbait articles the DM is no better or worse then any other news out there they will always go for the dramatic headlines to get what?..... clicks  



 
@RE_DailyMail
Breaking: The Metropolitan Police are now investigating the package of white powder and malicious letter sent to #PrinceHarry and #MeghanMarkle last week as a racist *despise* crime.
The matter is being investigated by officers from the Met's Counter Terrorism Command


People  :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 22, 2018, 06:23:11 pm
Apparently this incident happened 10 days ago, prior to their trip to Scotland. So why all the fuss now if it wasn’t a security issue then? No matter what, people are still not buying the bs. Look at how she was in Scotland hugging people and such, so what threat warning could she have received if this actually happened.
This foundation is a massive joke. The fact that the 3 of them would go on engagements was bad enough. It looked stupid because Waity and Wills could’ve done separate engagements from Harry that supported the foundation. Now with MM taking part in the foundation discussion, I don’t know what to say. I hope that she gets a grilling from the foundation supporters regarding her her bad track record regarding charaties, her merchandising when out with Harry when the visit should be about the organization that they’re visiting, her lies and deceit from day one of this farce. She has a bad image and a careless nature as well as the love of the press. I wonder if the former BBC producer’s still involved with the foundation because if so, the questions and topics should be very interesting.  :cookie:  The foundation can’t be taken seriously with MM being part of it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 22, 2018, 06:33:21 pm
At least she's doing something. And is not taking months to "research" what work she does.

I agree. the two couples should be split up when it comes to royal duties. More work would get done instead of having four people do the work of two.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: dianab on February 22, 2018, 06:37:58 pm
No longer the third wheel! Meghan will accompany Harry on a joint engagement with Kate and William for the first time - as the foursome launch the first Royal Foundation Forum
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5422457/Prince-William-Kate-Harry-Meghan-joint-engagement.html
This just goes on and on doesn’t it. This is unforgivable having this fake attend this event. The event seems like something that’s not been done before as they’re explaining why it was set up and the projects that they’re working on. They’re going to be onstage in front of people that support the foundation. It’s a forum hosted by a BBC presenter. She can talk of her fake humanitarian efforts.
Now there was a “racist” comment in the letter/package. I love it that people are saying it’s fake news and others are saying it’s her pr that sent it to garner sympathy.
here hoping kate go well-dressed in this engagement


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 22, 2018, 06:53:00 pm
I can see Megs staring at Prince William like she did on Christmas Day. And Kate looking at Harry.  :tehe: Wife swap? Ew  :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 22, 2018, 08:02:53 pm
sounds fun  :tehe:^


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 22, 2018, 11:42:59 pm
I can see Megs staring at Prince William like she did on Christmas Day. And Kate looking at Harry.  :tehe: Wife swap? Ew  :ick:

Oh dear, the drama; Kate isn't going to like losing the attention of Harry and I am certain Kate isn't going to like how the attention will be on Meg primarily since Meg is the newest on the scene. Meg will dislike being second all the time, but really, I am certain that Kate will be giving Meg dirty looks.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 23, 2018, 12:34:30 am
Kate limits the death stares to those she perceives as threats to her marriage. She is well practiced in death stares. I don't think Meghan is a threat to her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 23, 2018, 12:46:59 am
Kate will not give Harry up easily; I wager she will determinedly end up doing what she can to maintain being the center of attention. Remember the death stares she gave to Roger Federer's girlfriend/wife and she has been all over Ben Ainslie. If Meg gains more attention and coverage, she will dislike it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on February 23, 2018, 01:35:39 am
This "Fab Four' thing is stupid. Four people on one engagement is a waste.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 23, 2018, 06:54:34 pm
Royal appointment! Lifetime reveals its Prince William and Kate Middleton for the Harry & Meghan: A Royal Romance movie

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5424479/Lifetime-reveals-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton.html#ixzz57xVzyyv0
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This movie is going to be so bad, just like the other one about WK; I'm going to watch this, I just know it.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 23, 2018, 09:07:10 pm
^ Please do tell all about it when you watch it cause I do not intend to waste two hours of my precious life on garbage.

By the way does anyone else think that M could have sent serself this suspicious letter, just like she did, allegedly, claom the photographers broke into her home so that the infamous statement can be issued.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 24, 2018, 02:02:46 am
I don't think she did it herself.

William, Kate and family look far more attractive as played by those actors.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 24, 2018, 02:31:21 am
I dont think Meghan will do something like that.

just goes to show you have some racist sick people out there


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 24, 2018, 02:49:57 am
I don't think Meghan would do that. Suppose the news encouraged some nutter in the crowd when she went out on engagements with Harry?

I probably won't watch this film. Most of these sort of movies are really trashy and the people in them usually don't resemble those they are portraying. I did see one that I enjoyed back in the day, 'Whatever Love Means' I think it was, and it was about Charles and Camilla and young Diana.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 24, 2018, 03:07:31 am
'Come and read about the girl with the magical boobs': Meghan Markle's secret diary revealed as she is exposed as the anonymous author of a soul-baring blog in which she described herself as a struggling actress 'hustling' to reach stardom
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428533/Meghan-Markles-secret-diary-soul-baring-blog.html
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 24, 2018, 03:08:56 am
IS it her diary? Really? Any definitive proof. The DM seems to like to stir up the comments section.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2018, 03:12:53 am
I don't think Meghan would do that. Suppose the news encouraged some nutter in the crowd when she went out on engagements with Harry?

I probably won't watch this film. Most of these sort of movies are really trashy and the people in them usually don't resemble those they are portraying. I did see one that I enjoyed back in the day, 'Whatever Love Means' I think it was, and it was about Charles and Camilla and young Diana.

These trashy movies are a guilty pleasure of mine; I liked "Whatever Love Means" and I do like the way they portray a fairly straightforward relationship between WK as some big martyrdom.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 24, 2018, 05:54:45 am
This is a British journalist's fake diary. (Meghan curling up crying with 'biscuits'. Really, no Orio's, then?) It was mocked up from this article which appeared in Darling Magazine in early 2016, before Meghan met Harry. So much for the vaunted credibility of The Daily Fail, the newspaper even Wikki rejects!

http://darlingmagazine.org/meghan-markle-career/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 24, 2018, 04:08:36 pm
^then she should sue/fil a complaint against the press then. There are more blogs that were written by her after she got the Suits job. She's about to be come a men=mber of the BRF and part of a charitable foundation, so if she's hidding something, then the people and the foundation supporters need to know. IMO, she's nothing but a grifter and a hustler who's dirty laundry is now being exposed. She was in the UK trying to hook up with football players; trying to be a cheap WAG, so it's not out of the realm if she used a few British terms in the blog. The article in the DM has nearly 5,600 comments and growing.  :cookie:
Comments:
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Ilokid, Stanhope, Canada, moments ago
In North America, many websites are posting a series of 'glamour photos' of Miss Markle. Pride of place goes to one with her tottering along in downtown Toronto, wear a pair of old jeans, with a hand-made patch on the back pocket proclaiming 'Touch my butt, and buy me a pizza'. The lady is certainly in a class all of her own.
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Bear2, Every City, Bermuda, 5 minutes ago
At this point MM in charge. She is very powerful. Any complaints from the Brits/royals she will pull the R card. You are officially screwed.
-that's what she has been doing since day one. Umm, backfired on her big time. She's not powerful and most likely wished she's never started on this course.

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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 24, 2018, 05:53:00 pm
The blog may well have been hers, does seem like it reading the article, and actually the bits cited and posted are quite good, as in enlightening and interesting to read, esp about an industry that is in many people's minds so very glamorized, being unaware of the daily shyte grind these people go through. Fame-hunger aside.

If I read correctly, the original blog wrote crying with wine and "cookies", and the attention grabbing headline/ byline british-ized it to "biscuits". Besides, it's not unheard of that an American says "biscuit/s", it just in that case doesn't mean "cookie" like in Britain, but basically "scone". So the use of "biscuit" (and I think it's kind of "mis-cited" and was really "cookie" in the original blogpost) doesn't immediately negate the possibility that an (US) American wrote this, or even Meg herself.

If this blog really existed and was as popular as this article says, then this blog would have made a hell of a book!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 24, 2018, 09:35:12 pm
yeah the OG post said wine and cookies and  talking about the perfect roast chicken.

Yup she would have made a killing if she turned that blog into a book .

the site still up but it has a nasty virus if you click the links


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 24, 2018, 10:17:11 pm
^ Yikes, rather not! I read that a blog with that name is online, but someone different is behind it and it's not at all the same blog.. I didn't go look for it though. The original blog was supposedly deleted, the only thing is, that once sth is online, it'll never ever be truly offline and deleted. Who knows how to, can find the original blog fully intact on the interwebs. I think it's even fairly easy to do, and with the computers and things at the dm's and other papers' disposal, they should be able to dig the whole thing up. The article makes for a good and convincing case that this was M.
I wonder what else is out there and whether M is worried..
Their short engagement certainly does M some good, as the press has much less time to dig up dirt. Though, the worst kind of dirt could be dug up, when someone's blind with love/ lust/ infatuation, the truth could hit them in the face and yell and it would do nothing. Now, if this were the Japanese Imperial Household Agency, wow wow wow, Kate and Meg and Camilla wouldn't have even made it to tea at a local pub with a Windsor in sight, they would have been booted off!!!

I also find it interesting that a "forum" was mentioned in the article, in the article it says that since the engagement members of a forum have been rifely speculating that this blog - the working actress - was M's, and they even mention two or so members' names, anyone know which forum it might be? Have I majorly missed sth?

In any case, the press (dm?) has basically admitted to reading at least one forum!!

Going by that article though, there was nothing particularly inflammatory though and as I said, a very well write up on the truths of being a actor in H'weird.

Well, another talk about the perfect roast chicken... Hmmmmm.... :think: :cookie: :akasha:

I wonder whether the writer was ever approached about a book deal, as it's said the writer was approached for interviews etc....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 24, 2018, 11:06:18 pm
 I don't think it is the real deal. Ironically I remember how Chelsy's Facebook account was broken into and people started slamming her. Now she is considered someone Harry should have married.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 24, 2018, 11:13:08 pm
^ That's seriously in a way the worst of it imo, people having been so awful to Chels and also Cressida and now suddenly they're like "he should have married Chels or Cress!" Wtf! Besides, neither of these women seem to have shed a single tear over their ex's upcoming wedding (rightly so and good on them), so why do people dream pair them with a man neither of them wanted? It's "arranged marriage on drugs".


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2018, 11:18:56 pm
Painting Chelsy and Cressida as upper class users or being paired with Harry fits the BS 'fairy-tale' narrative that surrounds the BRF. It's not enough that both Chelsy and Cressida were bashed during their relationship, but the issue is that it has to continue under the guise of painting Meg as holy and down to earth in comparison to the upper class 'witches,' that surround Harry. Remember, the entire narrative of WK fairy tale is that Kate triumphed over the 'glossy posse' of the landed gentry and aristos. There can't be a fairy-tale without a witch or evil one person or another. Every fairy-tale needs a victim and Meg is (in the eyes of a currently fawning press) the perfect victim. The entire narrative of the relationships of Harry and William with their girlfriends is about victimization.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 24, 2018, 11:26:47 pm
^ Very true.
Striking is also that this is all a bunch of sobbery. Lower classes being snobs towards the upper classes, whilst the upper classes being snobs towards the lower classes. Instead of taking the person as is. Kate certainly didn't magic any change in at all, to "bring the classes closer together and close teh gap" as the fantasies back then were, if anything the Cambs have turnt out to be greater snobs and fuller of self- importance than the Walses or even Liz & Phil ever were. Astonishing.
As if Margaret Armstrong-Jones or ex-king David tutored them. This behaviour certainly runs in the family.
Well, they say that those from the provinces behave in cities worse than those born in cities, and I have seen that myself so often. Those who convert to religions are often stricter than those born into them and in the same way, those not to the manor born behave like uppity witches once they get into the manor as the manor's "lady". Strange, that. :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2018, 11:41:36 pm
I've been on the receiving end of snobbery myself and I am certain that Kate has done more than her fair share of snobbery towards those around her. Kate was never some innocent who just stumbled haplessly into William's set and I am certain she didn't get there by already being accomplished. In that set, in the system, you get to the top by accomplishment, birth, or just sleeping to that set. With Kate's attitude and persecution complex I am certain Kate had no problems having the press bash the upper crust even as she and her family hankered to be accepted. At the risk of being flamed, I think Meg cleverly played on Harry's determination to give the middle finger to the very establishment that keeps him from being on the street. The whole 'us against the world' BS that Diana drilled into her son's heads that alienated them from the very people who always fall on their swords for the princes. Meg will use the aristocracy to protect her, but will refuse to be a team player and at least try to be a functional duchess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 25, 2018, 12:37:32 am
Diana wanted her sons to be successful royals and participating in charity work in a significant way. She did not want them to be layabouts or "rebels" or "us against them." I think if she had lived, they would not be concentrating on "fun" charities and might well have had different partners. Meghan needs to be a team player and be a success. But no matter what those who did not like her since Harry started dating her will never turn around, except the more die hard royalists where once someone gets the HRH, they kowtow to these people. I don't blame the parents for Harry and William's behavior--they are not babies anymore, it's all on them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2018, 01:02:57 am
I wager their ancestors are disgusted; both had it all and threw it away in full. Harry will never recover once he's married to her and he'll be firmly relegated to the celebrity sidelines. At least this engagement has been entertaining in showing Harry for who he really is, not what his PR paints him to be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 25, 2018, 01:39:45 am
TO CATCH A PRINCE: MEGHAN MARKLE'S PLOT TO MARRY HARRY
http://www.amyspagnola.com/2018/02/to-catch-prince-meghan-markles-plot-to.html
 :thumbsup:

Meghan Markle Modeled Chic Looks in 2012 Fashion Photo Shoot
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Never-before-seen behind-the-scenes pics from a fashion photo shoot she took part in for Regard magazine's December 2012 issue, shot during a break in filming of second season of the USA Network's Suits, were released this weekend.
http://www.eonline.com/news/916192/meghan-markle-modeled-chic-looks-in-2012-fashion-photo-shoot
Where the pictures on her hidden blog article came from. She's really full of herself it's a bit comical.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 25, 2018, 01:42:21 am
Harry was very much involved in this. She could have wanted him but he did not have to reciprocate.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 25, 2018, 01:54:41 am
http://www.eonline.com/news/916192/meghan-markle-modeled-chic-looks-in-2012-fashion-photo-shoot
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The force is still expected to fund the initial one per cent itself.

This would mean a bill for the Met of £30million, with Thames Valley paying £3million.
Thames would also face the cost of Princess Eugenie’s wedding later this year, which is also being held at St George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle.
A well-placed police source said there were “tensions” between the two forces over the issue.
Officers are also said to be questioning the need for the couple to have a procession when, by then, Harry will be only sixth-in-line to the throne.
Princess Diana’s former bodyguard Ken Wharfe said: “No stone will be left unturned to keep the royal couple safe. Trust me on this occasion, finance has nothing to do with this. For Scotland Yard, together with Thames Valley, which will be policing this event, money is not an object and they will make sure the very best of security is put on display so security is not compromised.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/923584/Royal-wedding-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-police-bill-Windsor


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2018, 02:08:13 am
So the police is footing the bill for security, not the BRF? This is going to be offloaded onto the taxpayers either way.

Harry was very much involved in this.
She could have wanted him but he did not have to reciprocate.

Harry knows her for who she is, I am sure of that much. He's no dupe and he knows that she's not liked; he might think Meg will take him places, but I am certain that the only place she'll take him is right into a crash.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 25, 2018, 04:14:16 am
Royal wedding: Windsor hotels are charging up to $17,750 for rooms with a view
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal wedding is proving to be a huge opportunity for hotels in Windsor, where prices are spiking for bookings in mid-May. HELLO! has learned that for the weekend of May 19 some room rates are soaring to the thousands. Harte & Garter, a four-star hotel located directly opposite Windsor Castle - Harry and Meghan's wedding venue - has a going rate of $14,183 (with a minimum three-night stay) for its rooms overlooking the castle.

Macdonald Windsor hotel has had TV crews pay a whopping $17,750 for suites with balconies overlooking the High Street, which will provide the best view of the newlyweds as they take part in a carriage procession down the main road. The route will take Harry and Meghan from St George's Chapel down Castle Hill, along the High Street and through Windsor Town, returning to Windsor Castle along the Long Walk.
https://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/02018022343069/royal-wedding-windsor-hotels-charging-thousands/
Who cares abut the homelss sleeping rough in the streets of Windsor; it's all about making money off this farce.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 25, 2018, 04:39:32 am
^Seriously?! This is shameful, considering all that's been reported about the homeless situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 25, 2018, 05:11:19 am
Why Royal Family accepts divorcee Meghan Markle but shunned King Edward's ABSURD marriage
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/923006/Meghan-Markle-news-Prince-Harry-royal-wedding-news-US-divorcee-Wallis-Simpson-King-Edward
They should have the same tye of wedding; small and out of the UK with no royals or aristrocratic families attending.
This still feels like a massive joke in a sense that it's a coverup for something else because it's too much to expect the royal family and the old guard aristro families would accept a an attention seeking, shady character like MM. Times have changed for the worse. At least the royal family had the sense to have Edward kicked out the country with his very unsuitable wife and never gave her the HRH title or much of anything else.  :cookie:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry set for Belfast visit on Queen’s birthday, insider says
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The couple have already made official visits in London, Edinburgh and Cardiff since announcing their engagement, leaving just the Northern Ireland capital to tick off the list.
Rehearsals have already been taking place at the Queen’s Northern Ireland residence Hillsborough Castle, 12 miles outside the city centre, for a royal salute on the Queen’s 92nd birthday.
An Hillsborough Castle source told Express.co.uk: “We think the Meghan and Harry could be visiting Northern Ireland on the Queen’s birthday on April 21.
"Soldiers are already rehearsing for a gun salute that day and preparations are underway for a big event.
The source added personnel are only officially told about events at very short notice.
Kensington Palace refused to comment on a potential visit to Northern Ireland or upcoming engagements for the newly engaged couple.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/922889/meghan-markle-prince-harry-latest-royal-visit-wedding-belfast-northern-ireland


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Grey Mare on February 25, 2018, 06:17:43 pm
'Come and read about the girl with the magical boobs': Meghan Markle's secret diary revealed as she is exposed as the anonymous author of a soul-baring blog in which she described herself as a struggling actress 'hustling' to reach stardom
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428533/Meghan-Markles-secret-diary-soul-baring-blog.html
 :-

This is only the beginning.  :sigh:  She'll no doubt be writing a book soon.

Besides, neither of these women seem to have shed a single tear over their ex's upcoming wedding (rightly so and good on them)

Chelsy and Cressida are probably thankful everyday that they didn't just walk away from Harry, they ran away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2018, 06:26:22 pm
Why Royal Family accepts divorcee Meghan Markle but shunned King Edward's ABSURD marriage
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/923006/Meghan-Markle-news-Prince-Harry-royal-wedding-news-US-divorcee-Wallis-Simpson-King-Edward
They should have the same tye of wedding; small and out of the UK with no royals or aristrocratic families attending.
This still feels like a massive joke in a sense that it's a coverup for something else because it's too much to expect the royal family and the old guard aristro families would accept a an attention seeking, shady character like MM. Times have changed for the worse. At least the royal family had the sense to have Edward kicked out the country with his very unsuitable wife and never gave her the HRH title or much of anything else.  :cookie:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry set for Belfast visit on Queen’s birthday, insider says
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The couple have already made official visits in London, Edinburgh and Cardiff since announcing their engagement, leaving just the Northern Ireland capital to tick off the list.
Rehearsals have already been taking place at the Queen’s Northern Ireland residence Hillsborough Castle, 12 miles outside the city centre, for a royal salute on the Queen’s 92nd birthday.
An Hillsborough Castle source told Express.co.uk: “We think the Meghan and Harry could be visiting Northern Ireland on the Queen’s birthday on April 21.
"Soldiers are already rehearsing for a gun salute that day and preparations are underway for a big event.
The source added personnel are only officially told about events at very short notice.
Kensington Palace refused to comment on a potential visit to Northern Ireland or upcoming engagements for the newly engaged couple.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/922889/meghan-markle-prince-harry-latest-royal-visit-wedding-belfast-northern-ireland

You know, Wallis is owed a major apology; in the past, she wasn't raised to be career oriented and as a member of society, there was that stricture that practically forbade her from getting a career to make money. It was considered common and ill-bred. Her own family looked down on her and her first husband abused her nonstop until she had to break away for her very survival. Then her next husband was nice and hard working, but then Edward came along and basically couldn't and wouldn't let go. She was a survivor, not someone who was motivated solely by greed; anyone who had gone through what she did would end up being pragmatic. Wallis' only means of doing well was to marry as best she could, as it was for almost all women back then.

Now as for Meg, she has no excuse to be like this, climbing and trying to land an advance via a man. There are more ways for women rather than the bedroom.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Alexandrine on February 25, 2018, 07:44:42 pm
Wallis was a nazi apologist.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 25, 2018, 09:18:04 pm
'Come and read about the girl with the magical boobs': Meghan Markle's secret diary revealed as she is exposed as the anonymous author of a soul-baring blog in which she described herself as a struggling actress 'hustling' to reach stardom
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5428533/Meghan-Markles-secret-diary-soul-baring-blog.html
 :-

This is only the beginning.  :sigh:  She'll no doubt be writing a book soon.

Besides, neither of these women seem to have shed a single tear over their ex's upcoming wedding (rightly so and good on them)

Chelsy and Cressida are probably thankful everyday that they didn't just walk away from Harry, they ran away.


I don't think Cressida would have said no had he proposed. The body language shows he was not that interested in her. She would give him "loving looks" and he would look ahead then he'd run ahead from her on dates.

Chelsy probably enjoys her independence. IMO. I always hoped he and Cressida would get together.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2018, 09:21:25 pm
I think Cressida had a lucky escape; he never would have appreciated her and imagine if he had married her, she would have been vilified one way or another. Harry, by marrying Meg, is adhering to the fairy-tale narrative that the press mapped out for him since the death of his mother. Marrying someone like Cressida would have not been a fairy tale, that would have been a bignono. Besides, Cressida would have to defer to Kate's wishes on a lot, like staff and whether or not she (Cressida) would be allowed to hire anyone. Imagine being under the Duchess' thumb like that!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 25, 2018, 09:25:21 pm
I think Cressida is an attention seeker--she's had many photo ops and she's not shy about them.  And she had the misfortune of posing with Weinstein after doing her bit part for him in Tulip Fever.

I think some considered Cressida the fairy tale narrative. I remember some really wanted her to marry Harry because she was a 1/2 sister of Isabelle Calthorpe. And the marriage would have put Isabelle more in proximity of Will (not everybody liked or likes Kate).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2018, 09:26:54 pm
True, but getting attention is part of Cressida's job so she gets noticed for roles; in Kate's case, her PR was for her campaign to get William.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 26, 2018, 12:13:12 am
Meghan Markle reveals eye-opening details about her mother Doria in a now-deleted blog
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/923337/meghan-markle-parents-mother-news
Rubbish, just he crap she has spouted about her mum being a free spirit and her inspiration.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 26, 2018, 12:21:04 am
True, but getting attention is part of Cressida's job so she gets noticed for roles; in Kate's case, her PR was for her campaign to get William.

Cressida is essentially a socialite. She appeared as more or less an extra (unbilled) in Tulip Fever, having one line (a blink and you'll miss her role), grade z Bye Bye Man, and plays (what would be Off Off Broadway in the USA) She also has dabbled in modeling. Cressida went into acting after she and Harry broke up. She was going to those music festivals during the time she dated Harry and that "dance" video appeared. She does not have to support herself and she has well to do parents like Kate did. She knew the cameras were on her when she dated Harry and she put on the 'loving looks.' But he did not look back at her and ran ahead. I think the Yorks thought it would be a good match but it did not work out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: leogirl on February 26, 2018, 01:35:13 am
I think it could have been a good match, but Harry didn't seem interested, so it's best that they both moved on and found other people.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on February 26, 2018, 01:50:51 am
In the end, I think Harry got bored with Cressida.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on February 26, 2018, 02:07:13 am
Cressy was lovely but too young for Harry. IMO Chelsey was the one he should be marrying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 26, 2018, 02:10:00 am
In the end, I think Harry got bored with Cressida.

I think Cressida did bore him, mainly since she wasn't all that ambitious and wasn't interested in world affairs or politics. Like most idiots, Harry clearly thinks that Meg and he will become global players with royal titles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 26, 2018, 02:14:38 am
In the end, I think Harry got bored with Cressida.

True she wasn't giving him the drama that he likes .

Cressida moved on she back with Henry WS  they look happy ,and chelsy looks happy they both moved on too bad some royal watchers haven't cause people like to act like harry is the end all be all in dating /marrying .IMO


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 26, 2018, 02:22:17 am
I think there was drama behind the scene. I think Cressida is  high maintenance, being the youngest child of her mother. She does like attention also.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 26, 2018, 02:25:09 am
Most people in their early twenties are high maintenance and like attention.

I do think however that if Harry finds Meg exciting, it means he doesn't know the difference between exciting and unstable. Meg will at first seem exciting and amazing, but when it becomes a struggle to get taken seriously, I am certain that he'll become exhausted and not really know why. I went through the exact same thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 26, 2018, 07:46:06 am
Too much to repeat but this tweet directly contradicts what the Express and DM have been saying about this being Meghan's blog. Until 2010 the website used to be Workingactress UK. There are some British expressions in it left that seem to have been altered to American ones at some points, IMO. Apparently this woman also talks about acting on stage. Meghan has never had a stage career.

Having said that, I see nothing wrong in what I've read of the blog. Whoever the author was, and I don't believe it was Meghan, was probably just being very raw and honest about the industry. But as I say, I don't believe the author was Meghan and in my opinion she and Harry should sue for the imputations that the Fail has put on her.




https://mobile.twitter.com/king_carys/status/967819439231025152#




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 26, 2018, 05:50:00 pm
Harry and Meghan to visit Birmingham to support young women taking Stem subjects
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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will travel to Birmingham next month to attend an event encouraging young women to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering and maths (Stem) subjects.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5436959/Harry-Meghan-visit-Birmingham-support-young-women-taking-Stem-subjects.html
The sh*t show just continues to roll on.  :bored:  
I’m more than certain that this is a farce to cover up something else or to appease parts of the commonwealth and unfortunately, the longer this goes on, the worse it looks that they’ll be a wedding, most likely in a registry office. The royal family looks dumb and weak having this woman associated with them and more of her skanky past is revealed.
Everyone seems to be giving her what she wants and giving her special treatment, at least on the surface. It’s just extremely bizarre.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on February 26, 2018, 06:48:39 pm
How can she talk with women about taking a job in STEM when she chose to have a job in the entertainment business  ???  :-

Megs simulated sex on a tv show (soft porn), opened up briefcases on a game show and constantly took selfies for Instagram to brag about her life. The total opposite of a STEM woman.  :Kate:

And let’s face it, if she were a woman in STEM, she never would have met Harry. STEM women don’t make millions of dollars and can pay to be at Soho clubs in order to catch/stalk a prince.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 26, 2018, 07:08:50 pm
A listers have done bedroom scenes and simulated sex. I would not call it "soft porn." Actresses such as Kate Winslet did nude scenes and got an Academy Award for the performance. It's not that mainstream films do not have simulated sex or nude scenes.

Opening up briefcases on a game show is something perhaps aspiring actors/actresses would covet. Most don't get that far. Lots of women post things on Instagram and brag.

Harry would never meet an average person who does not have millions of dollars. It's no Lifetime Movie scenario here.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 26, 2018, 08:42:54 pm
^ On the "soft p*rn" thing: indeed, that's why I put that term into quotation marks in regards to my post on the other thread about Koo, because the press and some people still go crazy (just like back then) and make it out to be as if Koo starred in a "soft p*rn"  piece, when in reality it was harmless and not all that noteworthy, but she was shamed and cast aside. And yet she still came forwarda couple of years ago to defend Andy. Nonetheless, seems that acting gig was too much for the Winds, and now they have Meg, who's done far racier stuff on camera for film & TV. Karma! 8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 26, 2018, 09:10:29 pm
Wrong thread.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 26, 2018, 09:15:30 pm
^ On the "soft p*rn" thing: indeed, that's why I put that term into quotation marks in regards to my post on the other thread about Koo, because the press and some people still go crazy (just like back then) and make it out to be as if Koo starred in a "soft p*rn"  piece, when in reality it was harmless and not all that noteworthy, but she was shamed and cast aside. And yet she still came forwarda couple of years ago to defend Andy. Nonetheless, seems that acting gig was too much for the Winds, and now they have Meg, who's done far racier stuff on camera for film & TV. Karma! 8)

Koo had a brief topless scene that was part of the movie narrative and it was not at all something that torrid compared to the worse stuff actresses have done.

Meanwhile Meg:
Simulated 'head' onscreen
Simulated having intercourse
Has done risque photo-shoots
Did a risque video clip of her barbecuing

Realistically there might be worse out there that we don't know about. Koo was treated abominably (just cut out and basically left in silence) and go figure, Fergie was considered more suitable. Frankly I don't believe that anyone in the HOW can see people for who they are.

Realistically I am certain there is more out there than we can even fathom.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 26, 2018, 10:34:36 pm
^yep, and I believe that she thought that Harry would be her knight in shining armor and make sure that her nastiness won’t be revealed in the press. Harry couldn’t stop his own dumb behavior (Vegas) from being exposed in the press.  :tehe:
Meghan Markle 'not happy' with royal life
https://au.be.yahoo.com/lifestyle/a/39332798/meghan-markle-struggling-with-royal-life-with-prince-harry/
She’s not able to merch/pap walk like she used to.

https://au.be.yahoo.com/lifestyle/real-life/a/37715019/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-living-in-the-royal-bubble/
Misses celebrity life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 26, 2018, 11:27:37 pm
I think Samantha is  the one with the nasty behavior.

She never said publicly  she was "not happy" with royal life. This is hearsay.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 26, 2018, 11:43:56 pm
Meg never had much of a celebrity life to begin with; she wasn't on the major red carpets and she was never that in demand.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 27, 2018, 12:21:55 am
I guess it could be said she had a steady acting job on a TV show that had some fans.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 27, 2018, 05:27:26 pm
Right.

She had a steady career that did well, but wasn't as popular or famous as it's being made out to be by the press. I don't think this is going to result in some grand alliance and I don't believe that there's going to be any major Diana-esque blooming of fame and amazement. As it is she renounced her charities and UN position and so it's not like anything will happen there. I do think however  that Meg is going to try to mingle with the top Hollywood elite like Kate did and I am certain that she'll want to do some kind of "I'm victorious" tour throughout the US and try to hammer her way into US high society.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 27, 2018, 06:36:53 pm
Mel B appears to CONFIRM the Spice Girls will perform at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding and reveals the invitations HAVE been sent out
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5441631/Spice-Girls-perform-Prince-Harrys-wedding.html
PR crap for attention for te Spice Girls. Notice it’s in the show biz section.
I’d expect that the royal family have learnt their lesson and have a way to have MM not be able to talk about them or Harry on any chat shows or books. IMO, I don’t think that she’s in with Harry and the royal family as she’s only seen with Harry on official engagements and never just out and about like we see with Eugenie and Jack.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on February 27, 2018, 07:00:32 pm
It sounds very bogus. I think they will be guests and maybe sing at the reception (wedding breakfast?). Unless they sing hymns at the weddings, it's not going to be a rock concert at a royal wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 27, 2018, 07:02:10 pm
Why would the Spice Girls be guests to Harry's wedding? Christ this just gets worse and worse; what next?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on February 27, 2018, 07:50:06 pm
Sarah and Andy doing a drunk strip tease Electric Slide?  :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 27, 2018, 07:51:36 pm
DOn't give Fergie any ideas! I do know that Fergie will be doing her gurning and her merry asinine BS.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kins on February 27, 2018, 08:03:20 pm
This train wreck just keeps on getting better and better.... :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 27, 2018, 08:15:40 pm
I can see the spice girls going to the wedding why would Mel B lie about that? as for a preformnce at the recpition they can perform a few hit songs cause it will be  just one big party with friends and family where they can let loose and drink have fun


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 27, 2018, 08:20:43 pm
This is why it is quite likely the Spice Girls will be there and perform
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/prince-harry14.jpg

I loved them as most did then and also their impact is undeniable and quite great, but why is everyone so hung up over "reunions" and the like? It was glorious, but leave it in the past with good memories, no one needs to see botoxed, emaciated, stuck up Spice Matrons... Their past reunions weren't all that great, why do it again? Oh well...  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 27, 2018, 08:29:35 pm
I can see the spice girls going to the wedding why would Mel B lie about that? as for a preformnce at the recpition they can perform a few hit songs cause it will be  just one big party with friends and family where they can let loose and drink have fun

Have fun?

Harry's life has been one round of fun after another and it's not like Meg works so hard that she never enjoys herself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 27, 2018, 08:31:12 pm
yes have fun thats what wedding reception all about dancing and drinking..well for me it is ,and yes they can do all that 24/7 ,but its a wedding
This is why it is quite likely the Spice Girls will be there and perform
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/prince-harry14.jpg

I loved them as most did then and also their impact is undeniable and quite great, but why is everyone so hung up over "reunions" and the like? It was glorious, but leave it in the past with good memories, no one needs to see botoxed, emaciated, stuck up Spice Matrons... Their past reunions weren't all that great, why do it again? Oh well...  :wopedo:


I was so into the GIRL POWER with spice girls .Didn't Harry have a crush on one of them ?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 27, 2018, 08:35:31 pm
^ Yes, me too! Have to say, Posh Spice was my favourite  :shy:
And yes I think he was into one of them, so Charles organized a meeting. I think he was into Baby Spice (Emma), not sure though.
Charles and Diana organized actually quite many celebrity meetings for their sons, when they were into someone....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 27, 2018, 10:33:33 pm
How old is Meghan Markle? Is she older than Kate Middleton AND Prince Harry?
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Meghan, 36, is the oldest member of the so-called “Fab Four”.

The actress, who was born and raised in Hollywood, Los Angeles is three years older than her beau, who is only.

Meghan and Kate Middleton are both 36, however the actress was born in the summer before Kate’s birth.

Meghan’s birthday is 4 August 1981 while Kate was born six months later in 9 January 1982.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/924830/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-news-latest



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 27, 2018, 10:53:58 pm
Charles arranged a meeting with the Spice Girls for 13 year old Harry very soon after Diana died. They went to St James's Palace and Baby Spice jumped on Harry's bed apparently. Harry loved meeting them and described it to his father as 'the best day of my life!'

However, I think Harry's musical tastes have moved on since then! He reportedly likes Ed Sheeran, and the Killers, amongst others. There were rumours that Ed Sheeran was going to be asked to play at the reception but I read somewhere that he will be on tour in May and is scheduled to play Dublin on the 19th. Of course it could be cancelled.

I don't think either Harry or Meghan are sweating for a Spice Girls reunion. However, if someone like Victoria Beckham intimated to Harry that she and the others would really love to sing at his wedding reception, it would be incredibly awkward IMO to say 'Thanks, but don't bother'. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRHOlya on February 27, 2018, 11:14:57 pm
^ Quite true, though my reunion rant was general, not because of the wedding. If the reunion weren't happening, they also wouldn't be performing at the wedding, definitely not. Even though the Beckhams and Bill & Harry continue to suck up to each other...

I think if Ed were to cancel his gig in favour of the wedding, he'd have done so already or at least it's high time he does, looks very bad to leave it for too long when people likely travel etc to come to his concert. Oh well.

I think all our tastes evolve, but when something from our youth comes up, I think we all still go a bit gaga and it takes us right back, so nothing wrong with being excited when, as example, "Wannabe" comes on  :spy: :shy: :) :tehe:

^^ Shocker, Meg is older than the other 3 dolts! Has that "reporter" been living under a rock? :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 27, 2018, 11:34:17 pm
^LOL IKR was that reporter just born yesterday i mean (this is brand new information gif) . yeah Meghan is older big deal  ~kanye shrug~

so true when something from our youth pops up you get a good feeling like yesterday i was cheesing so hard cause the Lion king was on. when song come on from when i was in school takes you back .

If the spice girls perform i'm sure some of the guest will have a walk down memory lane

i will geek out if the backstreet boys ,Nsync and (Britney spears 97-2000)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 27, 2018, 11:46:40 pm
At the risk of being flamed, this is why I don't buy the whole 'suffering prince' BS mantra; Charles always went out of his way in a lot of areas and I am certain that if they had had their precious normalcy, that neither would have been able to meet celebs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 28, 2018, 02:28:19 am
Meghan Markle won't ever be like 'bitter' Wallis Simpson, says Princess Diana's biographer
Meghan Markle won’t be the first American divorcee to marry into the House of Windsor.


Before the “Suits” actress became engaged to England’s Prince Harry, Edward VIII abdicated the English throne in 1936 to marry twice-divorced American socialite Wallis Simpson.

ROYAL WEDDING COUNTDOWN: MEGHAN MARKLE PREPARING FOR HER BIG DAY WITH THE HELP OF DESIGNER AND AIDE

And while the declaration of love has been the subject of several films and documentaries over the years, Princess Diana’s biographer is shedding new light on a story that was far from a fairy tale.

British journalist Andrew Morton recently published a new biography, titled “Wallis in Love,” which claims Simpson’s true love was not the man who gave up the throne for her, but rather her good friend Herman Rogers, who gave Simpson away at her wedding to the Duke of Windsor.

Morton told Fox News he befriended Rogers’ family, and he said he uncovered secret letters that revealed the shocking story.

“It was fascinating, just the amount of material that I uncovered, especially in America,” Morton told Fox News. “Especially on the east coast in Columbia University, the Boston Public Library, Yale, Harvard – all over the place. I even had people looking in their barns in Maine for letters and information about Wallis and Edward. So I found a cornucopia of fresh, startling information.”

Morton claimed Simpson’s great love was the former businessman and WWI officer, who was previously married to her friend Katherine Rogers before she died in 1948.

However, Herman Rogers quickly remarried, prompting Simpson to allegedly tell his next wife, “I’ll hold you responsible if anything ever happens to Herman. He’s the only man I’ve ever loved.”
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/02/27/meghan-markle-wont-ever-be-like-bitter-wallis-simpson-says-princess-dianas-biographer.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 28, 2018, 02:44:23 am
Although they WERE friends, I think Wallis only loved Herman because he was unobtainable as a spouse. She seemed to have a certain contempt for men who were easy conquests and did things her way, and that includes two of her husbands.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 28, 2018, 03:38:12 am
Mods, please move this to the event thread that's currently closed. Thanks.
And Meghan makes a VERY Fab Four! Harry’s fiancée will join the Prince plus William and Kate TODAY for their first joint official engagement at a charity foundation in London
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Miss Markle, 36, is even expected to answer questions about projects currently supported by the foundation and of its ambitions for the future, a test for which she will no doubt draw on her experience as a working actress.
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Today’s audience will be made up of invited guests, supporters of The Royal Foundation, organisations it is partnered with, beneficiaries – and, of course, the worldwide media.
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Their question and answer session will be hosted by BBC presenter and Radio 1 newsreader Tina Daheley.
Their question and answer session will be hosted by BBC presenter and Radio 1 newsreader Tina Daheley.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443203/Meghan-join-Prince-plus-William-Kate-TODAY.html
I wonder if she'll be like the American presenter, Megyn Kelly, who takes no prisoners with her questions. She's going to act like a know-it-all and try to keep the focus on her just like she does during her Suits q/a foru in the past. Get the popcorn for this show.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on February 28, 2018, 03:40:28 am
I think I read somewhere that Wallis had a genetic problem and couldn't have children. She found that out qirh hisband number 1 who was also beating her. Husband number two got abandoned because a friend of hers invited her as a plus one to a meeting with her new lover - the future king of England and Wallis made sure that she stole the price from her. Exactly like the Meghan wr have learned to know but in MM's case she was plus one to her live in boyfriend who was cooking for the Trudeau's


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 28, 2018, 03:41:09 am
I look forward to reading the ongoing commentary. Kate won't like sharing the spotlight; Meg will be the main focus, of that I am sure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 28, 2018, 04:11:10 am
'There is only one Diana and sadly, she has passed': Andrew Morton claims Meghan Markle will never become the 'People's Princess' despite her charm and popularity
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5443007/Andrew-Morton-compares-Princess-Diana-Meghhan-Markle.html#ixzz58N9bzV1u
Finally talking sense. Diana was a unique one-off.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 28, 2018, 04:23:35 am
Yes the press really need to get over looking  for a Diana 2.0 they can get headlines and sell mags with Kate and Meghan if the press puts in the work .let these women be


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on February 28, 2018, 08:09:28 pm
'She met Prince Harry and cut me off!' Baffled Piers Morgan reveals his 'former friend' Meghan Markle GHOSTED him after falling in love
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5445915/Piers-Morgan-reveals-Meghan-Markle-GHOSTED-him.html
No surprise there. Hopefully now that she’s shown the world what she is and black history month has come to an end in America, (February celebrates black Americans’ contribution to the country) the gloves can come off. Piers Morgan doesn’t pull punches in his articles so I expect more articles about this hypercritical user who’s bs at the forum was all about herself and showing little understanding about the foundation or the royal of the monarchy.
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan Markle will have to tell U.S. tax authorities the cash secrets of her romance with Prince Harry - including whether she has a royal allowance and the cost of her ring
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5442861/Meghan-Markle-tell-tax-authorities-cash-secrets.html
She better tell the truth because the IRS is one government agency you don’t want to mess with.  :cookie:  This will be a very interesting read indeed as she’ll have to present receipts and detailed documentation about everything.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on February 28, 2018, 11:01:36 pm
This is an Australian news report in which several Royal reporters state that they have been shocked at the amount of abuse, racial and otherwise, levelled at Meghan. They themselves have come under attack from these loonies, both on their Twitter Pages and when they file stories, and they have been threatened. One poster threatened to throw acid on a female reporter's  work. This is pretty revolting stuff.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/royal-reporters-lift-lid-on-abuse-levelled-at-meghan-markle/9496132


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 28, 2018, 11:24:25 pm
I think the internet loonies are easily ignored and they should not pay attention to it and as for the rest, yes, the police should be involved. I think this is just an excuse to dredge up some 'fairytale' narrative drama since really, no real nutcase will get to them. Security will deal with it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 01, 2018, 12:04:22 am
RME at those people who are oh so shocked at the racism what world they living in Aus or Europe don't have racism why would they think it will be some Utopia?
At that Acid attack tweet was towards  Rebecca E  that person thought Rebecca was talking bad about Meghan so they went on the attack
Rebecca cant  tweet or retweet anything about Meghan her "stans" will go on the attack calling her racist cause RE works for the DM.
Both sides have trash people her "stans" can be trash and the people who don't like her can be trash.

@ Piers Morgan thats good for him  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 01, 2018, 12:41:03 am
Calling them the fab four is an insult to the Beatles. What were they before MM...the terrific trio? Besides that obnoxious and undeserved naming by the press, I surprised by the racial hatred. I wonder where the majority of it is coming from? I have had issues with MM. I don't think she is that pretty, I think she is somewhat fake and social climbing and totally inappropriate for PH. But her race is just fine. And I am even a little surprised he didn't date a full African heritage women considering his calling and fondness for Africa. Whenever I see him with the African children in videos, he is always hugging and kissing them when playing with and holding them. I think he would have liked to have had half-African(black) children. Well the racial haters only push him to cling to her more. So they are futile in their pursuits. Since the forum has been mentioned here,  u MM's advice to just use one's voice before finding the purpose behind what one wants to say and accomplish I think  is unwise. There are many angry/frustrated people who will accomplish nothing by just venting or using their voice. They need to find it to really make a difference by using it.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on March 01, 2018, 01:04:57 am
^^^^^ The ring is cheap and not worth going after for taxes but her engagement photoshoot outfits on the other hand - I'm sure they've noticed that the press was very evasive on thw topic of who paid for it.

^^ I don't want to invalidate the pain people go through due to their race but I wouldn't be surprises if M bought two trill farms - one to become stans and to keep blogging how great she is and one to send threads to anyone who says that she's not the beat and most wonderdul thing that ever hapoened to PH. She alreasy has a history of crying wolf and I'm not believing any of this to be true.

If PH wants to beliwve that M's in danger and her needs to protect her as seems to be her plot from the beginning, he needs to remember that his 'himanitarian' fiance disowned her own family, slept aith him while still in a very committed relationship with chef Cory and "saves" african lives with a picture and spends 75K for R&R while they starve. And he needs to seriously ask himself - what ia he saving?

And if the 'threads' are real - maybe they shouldn't marry. Let them live together for a month, two, five and then lets see where the threads are really coming from


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on March 01, 2018, 01:23:34 am
THe couples need to be separated instead of the fabulous four nonsense. They need to do different causes.

The nature of Meghan's and Cory's relationship at the time she met Harry is not known. Cory and Meghan did not get engaged. COuples do live together and can do so without commitment to marry. It happens all the time.

I think Samantha disowned Meghan by running to the media to bash her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on March 01, 2018, 01:37:23 am
I was talking about her brother who got dumped just like M's black side of the family got dumped when she got the Suits role ... cause they inconvenience her new image.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CarryingOn on March 01, 2018, 02:07:09 am
RME at those people who are oh so shocked at the racism what world they living in Aus or Europe don't have racism why would they think it will be some Utopia?
At that Acid attack tweet was towards  Rebecca E  that person thought Rebecca was talking bad about Meghan so they went on the attack
Rebecca cant  tweet or retweet anything about Meghan her "stans" will go on the attack calling her racist cause RE works for the DM.
Both sides have trash people her "stans" can be trash and the people who don't like her can be trash.

@ Piers Morgan thats good for him  :tehe:

They’re not actually surprised. They just never cared about racism until it was towards Meghan who could care less about her AA side because for XYZ stupid reason they like her and anyway to victimize her is alright by them. So, now they pretend to be faux-shocked and faux-outraged on her behalf.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 01, 2018, 03:02:01 am
Perhaps the Royal links are making this up to get sympathy for her. She is not that liked really. I am surprised at how little she gets press here now. At her wedding time she will, but no one seems to care here and I imagine a lot do not like her there in UK or Commonwealth. But who knows. The press is bought by certain persons and they know why.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 01, 2018, 01:04:28 pm
The story behind Meghan Markle's engagement ring
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It was to Cleave & Co that Prince Harry entrusted to make the ring. I can imagine the Prince, with characteristic determination, heading to 1 Buckingham Place - better known for making medals and decorative silver horse heads - to share his design ideas. Stephen Connelly, Director at Cleave & Co, tells us in its Britain is Great video: “Cleave are predominantly suppliers of orders, decorations and medals and all types of insignia.”
http://www.thejewelleryeditor.com/jewellery/article/meghan-markle-engagement-ring-story-get-the-look/
I was going to say something rude but.......
 :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: CathyJane on March 02, 2018, 02:20:44 am
You aren't the only one, Windsor2.  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: deGuernsey on March 02, 2018, 02:51:32 am
Has anyone heard the rumours of Meghan and Matt Lauer having an affair? It has even made the tabs. I didn't read it so I can't give info on the articles. Perhaps someone else will scan. If this has already been posted  :sorry:.

PS I just caught a glimpse of the MOB andd it seems a discussion is being had on this very subject! Good grief!  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 02, 2018, 03:19:48 am
Meghan Markle copies this royal habit from Kate Middleton, the Queen and Princess Diana
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Meghan is sitting in the “duchess slant”. This is a seating position named after Kate Middleton, but it has been in the Royal Family for much longer and has been used by the Queen and Princess Diana.
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All Ladies sit in this way when wearing anything but trousers.
IlashSpocksBeard1h
Depends whether you'd consider Murky M to be a lady.  She's an actress (3rd rate), playing a role, not because she's necessarily in love with the RF, but mainly because she knows what side of the bread is buttered.  She'll do whatever she has to, to make sure she becomes a duchess, or whatever, and never will have to put in a day of REAL work again, in her life.  Providing her marriage lasts, that is.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/925974/meghan-markle-news-latest-kate-middleton-princess-diana-the-queen

https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com
Other high profile people being linked to Soho House and MM. Of course without proof, this should be taken with a grain of salt but, as I've said before, whatever's going on, it involves people with more to lose than Harry. Harry's already painted as a playboy prince who's has being linked to actresses, so why would him dating MM be any different that would cause all of this fuss and bs for almost 2 years; a high profile married and such would. Hopefully were're seeing the exit plan because Wills didn't look too happy having to deal with her at the foundation event and Harry looked less professional than he usually does when dealing with foundation business. Having MM linked to Harry protects the men/women (who knows wih her  :tehe:) from public scandal and when this sham comes to an end, she shouldn't be able to profit from what this is with Harry or prior to him. Hopefully, she'll be in trouble with the IRS and violating her visa as she stews in her misery in LA. As long as she's attached to Harry, the royal family's still looked at as a joke for allowing this strumpet to be around dictating terms and emasculaing Harry, although I beieve he's allowing her to do so to make her own actions and words be her downfall.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 02, 2018, 03:08:27 pm
Will and Kate did not look happy at that event. And they admitted to having arguments with the other two and each other I guess. I do think it is weird that they are allowing a non married person to engage in these political forums. They should wait until after the marriage. I don't believe Kate did any talking before her marriage, just showing up at some events with Wills. But whatever.. the rules are disappearing. So we will see how the IRS does things with her. They brought down the Italian mafia. But is she were smart and well advised, just pay them off  like everyone else she does. They will go away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 02, 2018, 05:19:13 pm
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on March 02, 2018, 05:27:55 pm
Will and Kate did not look happy at that event. And they admitted to having arguments with the other two and each other I guess. I do think it is weird that they are allowing a non married person to engage in these political forums. They should wait until after the marriage. I don't believe Kate did any talking before her marriage, just showing up at some events with Wills. But whatever.. the rules are disappearing. So we will see how the IRS does things with her. They brought down the Italian mafia. But is she were smart and well advised, just pay them off  like everyone else she does. They will go away.

Maybe they just don't like working. Kate and Will should be happy that an extra person is there to take on the work.

Meghan is not Al Capone who was brought down by the IRS. She probably has wall to wall accountants at her disposal.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 02, 2018, 05:33:04 pm
Meghan joins the firm: Prince Harry's fiancee will undertake her first public engagement with the Queen this month at annual Commonwealth Service in Westminster Abbey
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5455167/Meghan-undertake-public-engagement-Queen.html
Great.  :bored:  I believe this is to appeal to certain commonwealth countries to have a “black” woman amongst the royals. I’ve read that she’d be at the service but not st the main event in the evening. It was also said that after that event, she’ll be gone. I would hope so but not holding my breath as it was said that she would’ve been gone since last year. The only way for this train wreck to end is if the rumors of her being married before Trevor’s true and she didn’t have her first marriage annulled rendering this so called engagement null and void or the IRS and or visa department cracks down on her. The few commonwealth countries that this farce might appeal to isn’t worth having a grifter amongst them. Will the royal family bend to their will to have this freak join them in marriage and ship them off to be the monarchy’s representative of the commonwealth?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Cali San D on March 02, 2018, 06:55:18 pm
I guess the Christmas Church Walk was not Megs first public engagement with the Queen  ??? :- Was it because its not listed in the Court Circular?  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 02, 2018, 09:17:07 pm
If mm wall has  wall to wall accountants which she probably does, she will definitely pay off the IRS. She doesn't have to be mafia to owe money or have hidden away taxes behind questionable deductions. Get with it, many people do it and have to atone to the IRS. She may very well be one of them. I would think so given her propensity for dishonesty or at the very least, fudging things. That is who she is. But then again, the Royal family are masters at tax fraud IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on March 02, 2018, 11:21:44 pm
Charles tax issues seem to have been swept under the rug. Royals can indeed make things go away. IMO anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 02, 2018, 11:23:18 pm
I'm sure the BRF is helping out and smoothing things along; that is why they attract such grifters and troublemakers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 03, 2018, 01:45:06 am
^so very true.  :thumbsup:  
The Meghan Markle effect! Future royal proves her selling power again as budget-friendly $42 ring she wore ONCE sells out repeatedly - leaving the brand scrambling to restock
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5454881/This-42-ring-keeps-selling-Meghan-Markle-wore-once.html
Is the DM trying to tell us something?  :cookie:

Platell's People: Don't use monarchy as a MeToo soapbox, Meghan
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Turning her back on Kate and William to get the most advantageous camera angle, she recited, in her best actressy dictum, lines that come straight out of the #MeToo sisterhood handbook.
But using this platform to indulge in #MeToo feminist propaganda was not only unedifying, but also worrying.

The constitutional Monarchy will only survive if it keeps out of politics, and stands above fashion.

Movements like MeToo are, by their very nature, both political and controversial.

If the monarchy is to last, it cannot be used as a soapbox by a former soap star.

Meghan should understand that she need look no further than Harry’s grandmother for a remarkable role model in female power.
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Honestlywhatwereyou, Sydney, Australia, 19 minutes ago
The Monarchy doesn't mean much anymore, sad but true.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5456655/Platells-People-Dont-use-monarchy-MeToo-soapbox-Meghan.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: meememe on March 03, 2018, 01:51:51 am
I guess the Christmas Church Walk was not Megs first public engagement with the Queen  ??? :- Was it because its not listed in the Court Circular?  :tehe:

None of Meghan's 'engagements' have been recorded in the CC. There was one occasion when she was listed as going with Harry in the FE but when that event came up in the CC Harry was listed as being there alone. Even the forum the other day had only William, Kate and Harry as attending. I would expect the same with this event - she will be there but not in the CC as officially attending.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on March 03, 2018, 02:06:23 am
^ No fiancee attending an official function or engagement with their fiancé or the Royal family is recorded in the CC until marriage. The same thing happened to Kate's seven engagements with William before their wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 03, 2018, 07:36:04 pm
IMO, this is what people like MM are doing; using social media to sell her fake fabulous lifestyle. This is one of the dangers of social media that Wills was taking about and Harry was telling young people to put down their phones and do something with their lives. This woman isn't a teenager and felt the pressure never mind girls younger than her.  :cookie:  MM continues to use SM via her merchandising that shows up on Mehgan's Mirror and other fashion blogs as she's pushing her fab life with Harry.  :tehe:  I really hope that she gets into trouble with the IRS as well as her shady ways are exposed.
'I wanted to be an Instagram star... but I ended up a financial wreck': Woman, 26, reveals how her debts spiraled as she paid for luxury holidays, the best clothes and amazing restaurants on her quest to be a social media star
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'I was shopping . . . for clothes to take 'the perfect gram.''
She says that despite moving back to Miami and getting a full-time job as a publicist Calveiro was $10,000 in debt trying to keep up on Instagram.
'I was living above my means,' she said.
Her expenditures trying to cultivate the perfect looking life were enormous, with $200 monthly shopping sprees so she'd never show the same outfit, and a monthly splurge on a designer item like a $1,000 Louis Vuitton purse or an accessory from Kate Spade.
On top of that, she had to show she traveled.
She says her biggest travel item was a $700 round-trip ticket to Austin, Texas, for a Sia concert in 2016.
Calveiro felt the pressure to travel somewhere every month like Las Vegas, the Bahamas and Los Angeles in her social media quest to appear the jet-setter.  
'Snapchat had these [geo-] filters [like digital passport stamps] and I wanted to collect at least 12,' Calveiro said.    
While she did some travel for work, Calveiro said, 'If you break it down, a lot of the travel I was doing in 2016 was strictly for Instagram.'
According to Fashionista, you would need to spend about $31,400 a year to 'to maintain the standards of physical beauty represented daily in our Instagram feeds.'
'I was living a lie,' she said. 'Debt was looming over my head.'
While she still has the desire to look like she has a fresh wardrobe, she says she now does a Rent The Runway with their monthly membership at $130, so she can sport something different for social media.  
'Nobody talks about [his or her] finances on Instagram,' she said. 'It worries me how much I see girls care about image.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5458315/Woman-26-says-debt-spiraled-trying-social-media-star.html#ixzz58iNCpBWo


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 03, 2018, 10:40:42 pm
Everbody looking for validation on social media


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 04, 2018, 01:14:32 am
^that’s the sad part of it because they should get validation from people that truly know them, not from strangers.
RACHEL JOHNSON: The Royal Fab Four? I fear Meghan's a bit out of tune already!
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Wow. I’m all for women being empowered and using their voices and people (ie men) ‘hearing’ them. But this was risky on a couple of fronts. Over here, we secretly don’t like women who speak out too loudly and often (I should know), let alone women who order other women to speak out and men to listen.

Actually, that’s true over in America too (remember what happened to Hillary). And as a nation, we certainly prefer Royal women who don’t really speak, like the Queen, or the Duchess of Cambridge, as demonstrated by that No 1 hit about a perfect girlfriend with the lyric ‘you say it best when you say nothing at all’.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5459067/RACHEL-JOHNSON-Royal-Fab-Four-fear-Meghans-bit-tune.html
What’s bad is that she won’t take her own advice as she just mouths off her own bs no matter what the question is or the situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on March 04, 2018, 01:17:13 am
The fab four nonsense has got to stop. The media should stop now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on March 04, 2018, 01:33:36 am
Ah, yes, Rachel Johnson, sister of Boris, who got a lot of flak from people, including fellow journos, for her 'exotic blood' remarks about Meghan at the start of the romance, if I remember.   


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 04, 2018, 01:41:25 am
 ^^^ true thats the world we live in now when people feel good by the amount of likes and followers they get ,and some young kids look up to these social media people #couplegoals  going OT but right not this NBAYOUNGBOY  who was seeing on hotel camera beating the crap out of his gf ,and they have tons of young girls looking up to them as #couplegoals .the gf is in total denial that he did that

this fab four blah. i always hoping when ever harry gets married they will stop this trio/foursome event ,but i guess they wont .harry, meghan  ,William and Kate are the new royals the future


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 04, 2018, 01:56:20 am
^geeze; no sense, no self worth or self-esteem it seems.
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Reports suggest that Andrew covers the £20,000 a year rent for the apartment. Only full-time working Royals get to live in palaces for free.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5458239/Busy-Bea-set-pack-bags.html
Harry’s a full time royal so that means he’s living rent free at Notts Cottage. The press wants us to believe that she’s living there with him, so since she’s not a royal, she’s receiving a gift (free living) that the values subjected to taxed by the IRS.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on March 04, 2018, 05:46:37 am
There's even more coming  to light about murky Megan's background.
DM article by Amanda Platell only had 2 comments in 24 hours so someone's protecting murky big time as comments on other sites generally scathing. ....check out this site for more on Harry's little tart...
https://blindgossip.com/?p=89137

ER has tarnished her legacy forever  if she allows this wedding to go ahead..


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on March 04, 2018, 06:00:26 am
^ And this person who collates blind gossip items knows Meghan and Harry personally, does he/she? Heard the conversations herself and can verify every one! More likely, combing the Tumblr and Twitter sites for some dirt to grub!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: YooperModerator on March 04, 2018, 06:10:24 am
^^Makes perfect sense to me if anyone's been paying attention.  She has been seen clinging and playing the overwhelmed lost child in public with Harry.  She's portrayed her family life as one she'd rather reject because it was so full of self denial and yet, somehow, she was given many advantages to private schools, a good education and financial support.  Somebody sacrificed for that because I don't see her family living in luxury.  She can't have it both ways. 

No one held a gun to her head to get married the first time.  No one forced her to get divorced.  All of her questionable life choices were her own, not foisted on her from which to be rescued as some victim and yet that is the exact game she plays.  And Harry does behave as a "rescuer", protecting her from all the meanies out there.  How nauseating.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 06:12:12 am
Meg, er, Rosella, no one is fooled by Meg's act and there's just so much out there that adds up. A lot of people can be accused of anything these days and I am certain that while innocents do get slandered, the palace is hiding Meg's real messes and no one sane or decent has ever really married into that family.

There's even more coming  to light about murky Megan's background.
DM article by Amanda Platell only had 2 comments in 24 hours so someone's protecting murky big time as comments on other sites generally scathing. ....check out this site for more on Harry's little tart...
https://blindgossip.com/?p=89137
ER has tarnished her legacy forever  if she allows this wedding to go ahead..

HM will lose all the respect that she's accumulated throughout her reign. Her heirs running wild makes her look weak and ineffective.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Rosella on March 04, 2018, 06:28:25 am
I'm a retired social worker from Australia. I'm not Meg, not a Meg troll, (have been on RG for years) have been been a Harry follower for 14 years. I trust Harry's judgement. I don't believe in blind items, Tumblr or Twitter rubbish, just verifiable facts. And I wish them both well in their married life together until I see evidence otherwise.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on March 04, 2018, 06:31:55 am
^ in truth I think ER's already lost a lot of resoect

Mods please could you delete this. Thank you


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on March 04, 2018, 06:35:44 am
I think she's already lost a lot if resoect. The older generation. were mainly monarchists but not so much the younger ones who see monarchy as outdated and anachronistic. Add to which the UK has had a huge influence of immigrants, both legal and illegal, who don't give a not for the RF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 06:59:09 am
There might be monarchists among the young if Harry and William would stop trying to be like the celebs and actually accomplished something other than racking up a bar bill. For example, actually setting themselves apart by getting something on their resume that would be a turning point for the nation. It's not like they don't have the resources. They don't want their princes to be their friend, they want William and Harry to be leaders, or leaders in training.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on March 04, 2018, 07:41:59 am
^Exactly!! Well said


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Val on March 04, 2018, 07:45:10 am
^^

That's definitely contributing to killing the Monarchy ie lack of respect.  People don't want them to be just like them, what's the point of them then.  PC had a phase of acting like the village idiot which everyone really disliked.  The so called 'fab four' are causing its popularity to slide faster than ever.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Ariel on March 04, 2018, 12:12:59 pm
^The outspoken misappropriating H'wood causes Meggie does that faster.

Her speech did feel off from the beginning and Amanda Patel explains it very well why it's off. The only 2 comments in 24 hours just shows how right on the point this article is.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: sandy on March 04, 2018, 02:35:18 pm
There's even more coming  to light about murky Megan's background.
DM article by Amanda Platell only had 2 comments in 24 hours so someone's protecting murky big time as comments on other sites generally scathing. ....check out this site for more on Harry's little tart...
https://blindgossip.com/?p=89137

ER has tarnished her legacy forever  if she allows this wedding to go ahead..

The Queen welcomed the woman who broke up her son's first marriage, a divorcee to marry her divorced son.  And "letting Harry and Meg get married" will ruin tarnish her legacy. To be honest, with letting Charles marry Camilla, she did have some tarnish on her legacy. What is Meghan to be protected from? Unsubstantiated gossip. There are no real facts to back up the innuendos. Like her breaking her dog's legs. The same people literally wished her dead. To be honest, some of the vitriol is scary.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Miss Hathaway on March 04, 2018, 02:49:44 pm
^ The Queen did not "let" Charles marry Camilla.  Charles forced her hand.  It was a non-negotiable.   And in order to prevent an even bigger scandal, the Queen was forced to go along.   Her body language at the Chapel gave away her disapproval, and I remember she jumped in a car and left pronto, leaving Charles and his honey on the steps of the Chapel.    :tehe:

It seems that both William and Harry have followed their father's footsteps in this regard.   And the racist card would be pulled out if the Queen's Men tried to keep Meggles out.   So here it is. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 04, 2018, 03:31:36 pm
Retired Social Workers can be paid to comment. Not saying that anyone is being paid, but sometimes the constant rah rah even in the face of opposite facts is suspicious. But true it doesn't necessarily mean someone is a plant. There is a plant on another website that is from Australia coincidentally. But that doesn't necessarily mean anyone here.  Per the above remarks about MM mouthing off about politics, she needs to understand what she is saying before saying it. I am surprised that she isn't more careful about what she says given she likes to speak out to make herself appear intellectually important. Her advice to "Don't try and find your voice, just use your voice" is faulty advice. For example, many people get angry and go riot, using their voice, without thinking first (finding it) and that cause more destruction. Had I been the interviewer, I would have called her on that, embarrassed her(as I'm sure she didn't have an off the cuff response) and never been invited back to interview her. She is not a person to speak out on things based on her past performance. I heard her on a panel discussion with young girls about empowerment and she was lame really in what she passed on. "You can look good and still be empowered." What nonsense for modern times and women. Being successful often goes with a nice appearance. What she was being asked is can you still dress like a sex kitten and be empowered and not a man toy." Sure you can, but she didn't get that and didn't answer correctly for the question. Maybe at the UN speech, (I haven't heard yet) she had it together but the again that is written out, not an interview which one has to think on the cuff. She does not as a political/social spokesperson, but I imagine she does better than Harry on political issues. But then again Harry doesn't really comment on politics. Encouraging people along with W and K to be aware of mental health issues is not exactly political. Oh and of course don't shoot animals even though I do it. He does say that in his words and actions. ( He and big brother Will should just shut up sometimes)

Problem is that She has an ego that will grow out of proportion and if she doesn't put a lid on it, I predict she will look more and more foolish or lame. It would be a blast to be able to conduct an interview with MM and be allowed to ask all the questions without sanitation. That would shut her up but good and show how much she lacks in intelligence. She is intelligent, but I am finding that she is not THAT intelligent. Getting into Immaculate Heart is not that difficult nor is it considered a hard school, and who knows how she got into North Western. But I am sure on that application, she didn't have a problem checking the African box. There is still some affirmative action being practiced in the U.S. And realize, she paid people to write her blogs and articles, ask my nieces friend.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on March 04, 2018, 03:34:28 pm
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: marion on March 04, 2018, 06:47:51 pm
I really find it hard to believe the RF really want this trash marrying in. Most of them are such terrible snobs and she even managed to make waity look good so that says a lot .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbn0xFtWUaU


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 06:53:41 pm
The BRF is loaded with terrible snobs, which is why I kind of get off on how they have two grossly unsuitable women as new consorts.

Retired Social Workers can be paid to comment. Not saying that anyone is being paid, but sometimes the constant rah rah even in the face of opposite facts is suspicious. But true it doesn't necessarily mean someone is a plant. There is a plant on another website that is from Australia coincidentally. But that doesn't necessarily mean anyone here.  Per the above remarks about MM mouthing off about politics, she needs to understand what she is saying before saying it. I am surprised that she isn't more careful about what she says given she likes to speak out to make herself appear intellectually important. Her advice to "Don't try and find your voice, just use your voice" is faulty advice. For example, many people get angry and go riot, using their voice, without thinking first (finding it) and that cause more destruction. Had I been the interviewer, I would have called her on that, embarrassed her(as I'm sure she didn't have an off the cuff response) and never been invited back to interview her. She is not a person to speak out on things based on her past performance. I heard her on a panel discussion with young girls about empowerment and she was lame really in what she passed on. "You can look good and still be empowered." What nonsense for modern times and women. Being successful often goes with a nice appearance. What she was being asked is can you still dress like a sex kitten and be empowered and not a man toy." Sure you can, but she didn't get that and didn't answer correctly for the question. Maybe at the UN speech, (I haven't heard yet) she had it together but the again that is written out, not an interview which one has to think on the cuff. She does not as a political/social spokesperson, but I imagine she does better than Harry on political issues. But then again Harry doesn't really comment on politics. Encouraging people along with W and K to be aware of mental health issues is not exactly political. Oh and of course don't shoot animals even though I do it. He does say that in his words and actions. ( He and big brother Will should just shut up sometimes)

Problem is that She has an ego that will grow out of proportion and if she doesn't put a lid on it, I predict she will look more and more foolish or lame. It would be a blast to be able to conduct an interview with MM and be allowed to ask all the questions without sanitation. That would shut her up but good and show how much she lacks in intelligence. She is intelligent, but I am finding that she is not THAT intelligent. Getting into Immaculate Heart is not that difficult nor is it considered a hard school, and who knows how she got into North Western. But I am sure on that application, she didn't have a problem checking the African box. There is still some affirmative action being practiced in the U.S. And realize, she paid people to write her blogs and articles, ask my nieces friend.

Brilliant comment.

I watched that clip of her speech to the UN about giving women a place at the table and her speech was asinine in the extreme. She expressed major attitude and I am certain that she'll make a fool of herself during other speeches as well. Women have been building their own table time and time again and I am certain that women in the West at least do not struggle too much to be heard.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 04, 2018, 07:03:42 pm
Catholic-raised Meghan Markle will be baptised in Kensington Palace by Archbishop Justin Welby this month before marrying Prince Harry
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While she did not take his faith, their wedding - in Jamaica in 2011 - was conducted with many Jewish traditions, with the couple being lifted on chairs.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5459779/Catholic-raised-Meghan-Markle-baptised-Kensington-Palace.html#ixzz58o93hZ00
Why Protestantism reigns in England
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King Henry VIII's reign saw England turn in favour of Protestantism and split from the Catholic Church.
The split came about after the Pope refused to annul the King's first marriage to Catherine of Aragon, which he wanted because she could not give him a male heir.
The King in turn declared himself head of the Church of England.
From then on, only Protestant worship was permitted and Roman Catholics were ousted.
He also started to close down monasteries, taking their land and money.
Britain swayed between Protestantism and Catholicism during the tenures of Henry's successors, Edward and Mary, but Protestantism was ultimately victorious with the elevation of William III to the throne.
In 1701, the Act of Settlement barred Catholics from the throne.
Meghan's decision to be baptised is not strictly necessary for her to be married in the Church of England, but is believed to desire it out of respect to the Queen's strong faith and the traditions of Protestantism in the monarchy.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5459779/Catholic-raised-Meghan-Markle-baptised-Kensington-Palace.html#ixzz58oArNvYf
I see a patern where click bait articles have historical fact article imbedded as this explains why the Church of England was established.
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 07:14:31 pm
I do believe that baptism is one of convenience since after all, it's not like Meg has had any fervor for anything other than one round of validation for her asinine ramblings after another.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: buflesse on March 04, 2018, 07:33:19 pm
Meghan is one of the least Christian women I know of. No doubt the baptism by the Archbishop at KP will be very glitzy and glamorous, with a designer dress and towering heels and lots of simpering and a diamond cross necklace to mark the occasion....



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 07:46:50 pm
I honestly have begun ot think that Meg's view of women being oppressed in the West and not being taken seriously does in fact come more from her experiences as an actress and therefore she's been surely condescended to and brushed aside each time she wants to be part of the power player set. I do think that she's going to become even more involved in areas where she's forbidden (due to her position as Harry's consort) and will cause a ton of trouble in that area.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: lesken on March 04, 2018, 08:34:32 pm
^ Good point. In Hollywoodland the straight men are awful towards the women, but there are more and more female producers, directors, executives, etc. gaining status, not to mention female stars. But that is not true in other areas out here, quite the opposite. We have a ton of women in professions, politics, etc. So Meghan is quite off the mark of the majority in the West. But I don't know if she is speaking of the West or other parts of the US or other countries. She probably doesn't know herself, she just mouths off what she thinks is topical. Thank God, other women, not MM, have come forward about Hollywood lechers. So that may slowly be put to rest at last. MM will get in trouble if not kept under control. I am not sure how much control the Royal powers that be really have anymore. Diana got political and she ended up dead. But people took her more seriously than they will Marbles. So Marbles is safe. They may just have to figure out how to shut her up if she lasts any significant length of time. Who knows, if she becomes a mother, she may shut up on her own for awhile and relish motherhood.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: windsor2 on March 04, 2018, 09:00:56 pm
^there's no way to shut this broad up.  :tehe:
Millie making sure she's not attending MM's hen do. She's distancing herself away from MM and the whole train wreck it seems.
https://iamstillskippy.tumblr.com/post/171528575601/millie-had-lunch-at-farmacy-in-nottinghill-today

[bMeghan Markle reveals the £1 travel essential she never boards the plane without (but admits it can make her look 'a little odd')[/b]
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In an article from her former lifestyle blog The Tig, which has resurfaced online, Prince Harry's bride-to-be revealed that she never travels anywhere without a bottle of sanitiser spray or antibacterial wipes.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5459847/Meghan-Markes-one-travel-essential-revealed-hand-sanitiser.html#ixzz58oee8xfu
The comments are scathing for both articles.
MM's higher profile seems to be captuting the atention of the tax and immigration people in 3 countries; USA, Canada and the UK. ow can these enities ask her questions if she's not filed her taxes yet or going for the spouse visa. She could file an extension for her US tax and she could dog the immigration laws by getting a visa after, God forbid, this awful wedding takes place.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged II
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 04, 2018, 09:08:03 pm
 Meg strikes me as one of those women who would prefer to be treated like a delicate flower or lady of the manor, but doesn't want to get her hands dirty or work in a way that would in fact enable her to be treated with the respect she yearns for. Kate was the same; Kate put up a front of basically being too delicate to handle seeing bare breasts, but the entire courtship she was sleeping with William, was in the habit of flashing the Marlborough campus, and drank like a sailor. I do think that Kate resents that other women seem to be treated with more chivalry, but basically Kate never saw that women who respect themselves, get respect. Respect comes from work and honest labor, not being too good to put in an effort and basically sleeping to the top doesn't make a woman a lady.

I think Meg believes that it's just luck that other women got better jobs than her in Hollywood, but a HUGE part of it comes from not being taken care of, but taking the same risks as everyone else who wants to make it to the top. Meg might have gone to a good school, gotten good grades, but it does not mean that she was exempt from having to take the same risks or basically put in a huge effort and make each role her own and work just as hard and diligently. I don't think Meg got it into her head that trying to get a guy to make it work for her was not going to fly.

Like Kate with the aristocrats, Meg was treated with condescension and indifference at best and probably told to back off if she tried to use her sexuality to manipulate a celeb or someone with power. Or worse she was used and then discarded without getting a part or perk. It would explain the chip on her shoulder, yet the yearning to rub her new impending status in everyone's faces. Perhaps she thinks (and hopes) that the celebs will then suck up to her, but I think she will just end up disappointed since none of the top players in Hollywood even are all that impressed with the Windsors.