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Title: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 10:09:40 am
Well it happened  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 27, 2017, 10:11:06 am
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Rebecca English‏
Harry and Meghan became engaged earlier this month. The wedding will take place in the spring
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@RoyalReporter

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged - official

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@phildampier
About time! Harry and Meghan are engaged and will marry in Spring 2018 Palace announces


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 10:11:48 am
Harry and Meghan are ENGAGED: Prince proposed in London 'earlier this month' before asking the Queen to give her blessing for the divorced American actress to join the royal family

    Announcement made a week after his grandmother the Queen celebrated her 70th wedding anniversary
    The couple got engaged in London earlier this month and will marry in Spring 2018, Kensington Palace said
    Harry, 33, and Meghan, 36, revealed they were an item a year ago after a six-month secret relationship
    Meghan could become a princess or be given title Duchess of Sussex when she marries fifth in line to throne
    Pair have not said where they'll wed but it could be Westminster Abbey, St Paul's Cathedral or Windsor Castle


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5111813/Prince-Harry-proposes-Meghan-Markle.html



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 27, 2017, 10:12:00 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5111813/Prince-Harry-proposes-Meghan-Markle.html :loveshower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 10:12:20 am
I feel daja vu but in a bad way....

Lots of gossip awaits us


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 10:13:52 am
^ Oh yes!

I guess we can safely say we know who the major leak was to US magazine, Lainey et al.  :cookie:

I think this will be such a car crash, it's just wow! Endless entertainment, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 10:22:55 am
We need to know, engagement ring, her religion, the wedding, the interview, whatever kate will say, the first event.... we will have at least for 2 years.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 10:25:53 am
Btw I won the poll


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 27, 2017, 10:28:04 am
^^ I agree with what you said about this being a déjà vu. About her religion, it might be messy because she seems to change religion according to what is convenient. I bet that's how she's going to be able to get married on a religious ceremony. Just like Letizia, she'll "see the light". Time to start another sort of poll :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 10:32:08 am
But at least she was catholic but what is Meghan? I hope the interview this evening is late and I can see it live.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 27, 2017, 10:38:38 am
Wasn't Letizia an atheist converted to catholicism? at least that's the rumour I've read in some articles. As far as I know, it's been said that Rachel was a protestant and converted to judaism and then back to being a protestant again :dontknow:
 I'd also like to watch the interview.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 27, 2017, 10:39:33 am
Sorry ...... but, I keep the opinion:
may be good for Henry, but not good for prince Harry and the Monarchy.  :flower: the 'Time' will tell us.
Now they have 'the stamp/seal', they are like celebrities.......  :sigh: This for me ,not to mention other issues

showbunissprince   :wopedo:   or Harry celebrity's Prince  

with Popcorn   :tehe:  here we go !


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 27, 2017, 10:40:06 am
I love it!
I hope they get married asap and try for a family straight away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 10:56:13 am
We need to know, engagement ring, her religion, the wedding, the interview, whatever kate will say, the first event.... we will have at least for 2 years.
oh, and opinion of phil....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 27, 2017, 11:00:26 am
^And HM the Queen's predictions.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 11:22:55 am
IMO the rf have lost the plot, utterly and completely.  Regardless of race, colour or anything else anyone wants to discriminate against, she is not a person fit to be in the rf.  Koo Stark was hauled away from Andrew, and by jingo this one makes Koo look like the Virgin Mary.

So, is HM going to remove tax payer funding for dork haza and murky murkle?  She should, as both have lost the plot, and if you ask me HM has senile dementia, lost her marbles utterly and completely.  She let the medds in and look what happened, and here she is going in for round too with a family even tackier. My God, she needs to abdicate now, she is no longer fit for the job.  Wish it was down to the taxpayers to vote about getting rid of them, they would soon be tossed out of taxpayer funded luxury lives.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on November 27, 2017, 11:34:31 am
It’s all going to end miserably.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 11:45:38 am
I called it too, said end of Nov/ when filming ends  8) :tehe:

The press and everyone knew though, articles on the dm appeared so fast, not even seasoned copy-and-pasters dm "reporters" could have copied and pasted that quickly, which means they had the articles ready and just waiting to publish them.

^^ Doesn't make sense to remove H&M when Camz & Waity got in. The Winds are in the gutter, they're lucky they found someone dumb enough in Markles who wanted "in". No one half sane wants to marry into that family and rightly so. :spy:

An opinion of Phil's, would love to hear his commentary  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 27, 2017, 11:49:38 am
Congratulations to them. I wish them all the happiness in the world. I've waited a long time for Harry to find someone he can be easy and happy with. And after the mess of the last few days with Royal reporters going insane it's going to be twice as crazy! Looking forward to the photocall and interview. Charles is thrilled and the Cambridges said nice things. I love Royal weddings so I'll be in heaven!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 12:03:59 pm
^ The crazy of last week is going to pale to the crazy up until the wedding and first engagements... With tiara/ dress/ Kate's baby bump/ and literally everything speculation, then the frenzy of ca the 1st married year and after that it's going to die down somewhat, unless Kate & Meg keep it alive with btch fights  :tehe:

'It's wonderful to see how happy they are together': Kate and Wills congratulate Meghan and Harry

    Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced their engagement this morning
    William and Kate said in a joint statement they are 'very excited' for the couple
    They added it had been 'wonderful getting to know Meghan' in the last 18 months
    Harry and Meghan will live in Nottingham Cottage next to Kensington Palace


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5120793/Kate-Wills-congratulate-Harry-Meghan-engagement.html

A love nest fit for a Princess! Harry and Meghan will live in Nottingham Cottage - just a stone's throw away from Kate and Wills in the grounds of Kensington Palace

    Newly engaged Meghan Markle to live in Nottingham Cottage with Prince Harry
    The property at Kensington Palace was William and Kate’s first marital home
    It was once the home of Prince Philip’s secretary, Brigadier Sir Miles Hunt-Davis


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5120809/Harry-Meghan-live-Nottingham-Cottage.html

W&K statement was though imo a load of PR nothingness, kind of like H's "can't wait to get to know her [Kate]", even though W&K dated for ages at that point. Don't think W&K really met Megs apart in passing and maybe one or two dinners together and I don't really think Kate is happy or ready to share the spotlight with another woman and cease to be "the only woman in the young royals' threesome".. :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 27, 2017, 12:08:06 pm
^ Yup, we'll have to watch that space.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 12:13:01 pm
"Ms. Markle's parents, Mr. Thomas Markle and Doria Ragland have wished the couple 'a lifetime of happiness.'"

https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/935088438243622912

Pic of the statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPoZBHwW4AAwPlh.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: LadyAva on November 27, 2017, 12:24:11 pm
 will The Father of the bride come. no one has seen him for years he has anxiety issues it was reported. But who knows? Kate was allergic to horses before the wedding and now it seems like that was a lie.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 27, 2017, 12:32:44 pm
I want this for Harry.
She may have some obvious things against her, like her age,a failed marriage behind her and her American ways.
But I like the fact that she is a hard worker, a free spirit and has lots of friends.
Unlike Waity she did not stalk Harry and wasn't his beck and call girl for 10 years.
Meghan imo is a way better choice then any of Harry's previous needy insincere girlfriends(maybe with the exception of Chelsy).
I hope this will work for them.
Gossip Galore for a couple of years ahead, my friends!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 12:42:04 pm
I called it too, said end of Nov/ when filming ends  8) :tehe:

The press and everyone knew though, articles on the dm appeared so fast, not even seasoned copy-and-pasters dm "reporters" could have copied and pasted that quickly, which means they had the articles ready and just waiting to publish them.

^^ Doesn't make sense to remove H&M when Camz & Waity got in. The Winds are in the gutter, they're lucky they found someone dumb enough in Markles who wanted "in". No one half sane wants to marry into that family and rightly so. :spy:

An opinion of Phil's, would love to hear his commentary  :tehe:
well if it is made to US Weekly we're know it's true


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 12:45:24 pm
^LOL but lainey said their sources are bad? And she is also connected to Meghan...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Spitfire on November 27, 2017, 12:47:17 pm
On cynical note, this marriage could help our (the UK's) post-Brexit trade with our cousins across The Pond!!  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 12:51:09 pm
^^meghan's friend obviously continues in US Weekly and she gave him the leak she and harry were engaged... and before this same US Weekly friend got the leak that harry disliked the Trump politics. Lainey isnt a insider IMO if she dont have a clue that US Weekly is the mouthpiece of Meghan. As Richard Kay was to Diana, Junor to Charles and the Sun editor was to Camilla from 1982-1992

By the time Markle flashes her sparkler, she’ll be behind Kensington Palace’s protective walls. Post-filming, says the pal, “she’ll relocate to London for sure.” There, she’ll be on hand to help plan what one insider calls “a detailed media rollout.”

Harry and Markle “will most likely hold a small photo call at Kensington Palace, with just one photographer and journalist invited,” says the insider. “On the same day, they’ll do a TV interview that will be syndicated around the world.”

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-to-announce-engagement-soon-w508139/

It cannot to be more obvious where's the media friend of Meghan


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 27, 2017, 12:58:57 pm
On cynical note, this marriage could help our (the UK's) post-Brexit trade with our cousins across The Pond!!  :tehe:
but she (Meghan) is against the brexit
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/797340/meghan-markle-brexit


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Spitfire on November 27, 2017, 01:05:41 pm
^  I was referring to the possible trade ramifications of this marriage, not Markel's (frankly, irrelevant) view of Brexit...I also said that I was being cynical...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Amanda on November 27, 2017, 01:38:27 pm
I'm very happy, I always cheered for this couple. May they be very happy! :hug: :hug: :hug: kisss kisss kisss :bouncy: :flower: :hi:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 01:45:30 pm
I have no clue about US magazine's/ weekly's (are they the same?) reputation and how spot on they are, but with all the H&M stuff they were pretty spot on  :P

Same as the Sun is always seen as unreliable (for very good reason), but at the same time Camz tattled all to the Sun and even the Winds put stories out to the Sun to gaue public reaction: no one takes the Sun seriously, but people react so they know whereabout they stand with sth (that was said in a very good docu about the Winds's PR tactics). Hence the fail also not always failing and many others.

Megsy anti-Brexit? I'm pretty sure most if not all media people, rich people and well-connected and aristos and the whole set is against it, from what I gather.

PS

Now for the REALLY big question – will we get a day off? Calls grow for a public bank holiday as it emerges Harry and Meghan's Spring wedding will avoid overshadowing the birth of the third royal baby and the couple have synced diaries with the Queen

    Prince Harry and Meghan to avoid April days around Kate's due date next year
    The couple have also synced diaries with the Queen and other senior royals
    Chapel at Windsor Castle is hot favourite for venue above Westminster Abbey
    British workers demand a bank holiday to celebrate their big day in 2018


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5121297/Harry-Meghans-wedding-avoid-royal-baby.html

The ones that got away! As Prince Harry pops the question to Meghan Markle, the pop stars, society girls and lingerie models who missed out

    Prince Harry has popped the question to Suits actress Meghan Markle
    We round up his exes who lost out on the red-headed royal
    Harry's exes include sports presenter Natalie Pinkham and Chelsy Davy


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5111867/Prince-Harrys-exes-got-away.html

I doubt any of them are shedding one single tear tbh.


The photocall should happen soon I think! :akasha:

PPS

The press is ready in Diana's sunken garden *rolls eyes*
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpJXzCXcAEDrFR.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 01:54:55 pm
Wtf they are using the garden.

What a pain Im working not like with Kate engagement.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 02:01:21 pm
Any good live link that can be used on mobile?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 02:04:49 pm
She is already wearing white lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 02:05:50 pm
I have no clue about US magazine's/ weekly's (are they the same?) reputation and how spot on they are, but with all the H&M stuff they were pretty spot on  :P
Yes. usmagazine.com is the site of US Weekly magazine. I'd says it's more unreliable than People mag (but not so much as National Enquirer or The Sun). But obviously Meghan's friend works there


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 02:08:35 pm
^  :thumbsup:

the fail has some live link, but no idea what would work best on mobile.

Beaming Prince Harry and fiancee Meghan announce their engagement in Diana's beloved Sunken Garden

    Announcement made a week after his grandmother the Queen celebrated her 70th wedding anniversary
    Poignantly Harry chose first photocall in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace - loved by his late mother
    Her majesty has given her blessing and she and Prince Philip say they are 'delighted for the couple'
    Harry and Meghan got engaged in London earlier this month and to marry in Spring 2018, Prince Charles said
    Meghan could become a princess or be given title Duchess of Sussex when she marries fifth in line to throne
    Pair have not said where they'll wed but it could be Westminster Abbey, St Paul's Cathedral or Windsor Castle
    Harry, 33, and Meghan, 36, revealed they were an item a year ago after a four to six-month secret relationship
    They will live in Nottingham Cottage in Kensington Palace next door to William, Kate, George and Charlotte
    Meghan has quit the hit show Suits and is shipping all her belongings to Britain including her two dogs


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5111813/Prince-Harry-proposes-Meghan-Markle.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/27/14/46BC9D0900000578-5111813-image-m-36_1511791481535.jpg

The ring
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpPkHYXUAEb-Qh.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpQeDWW0AAefkZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpPr7RW4AA9g91.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpP-SFXcAA4LoC.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 27, 2017, 02:13:43 pm
Looks like one large diamond and two smaller. They were tickled pink with each other, smiling and beaming. Can't wait for the interview later on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 02:17:51 pm
Going by the grainy pics she looked nice, I only dislike the nude shoes.

Can't comment on the ring, the pics are too grainy.

Good to hear they seemed happy, makes for a better overall impression than Waity & Bill of the Jaw-Clenchers.  :spy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 27, 2017, 02:20:18 pm
Can't see the ring in detail, but seriously no tights and summery shoes when it's freezing cold in London?  bignono


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Grey Mare on November 27, 2017, 02:23:09 pm
Well, this is and will be a major mess for the Royal Family down the road.  I am sure the pregnancy announcement will not be far behind, Harry has no doubt knocked Meghan up, which explains the fast engagement and marriage.

I am never afraid to admit when I have been wrong.  I take back everything nasty I ever said about Kate.  This is girl makes Kate look good, which is something I never thought was possible.  Meghan is totally inappropriate on so many levels, such a shame.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 27, 2017, 02:25:54 pm
All about her engagement ring:

https://twitter.com/MaxFosterCNN?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

At least he had an original design for the ring, unique for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 02:30:22 pm
Looks very much like yellow gold, one larger stone and two smaller, "prince harry designed the diamond engagement ring. One stone from Botswana and two diamonds from Diana’s personal collection"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpRj3mWAAAsBxv.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/27/14/46BCAB7D00000578-5111813-image-a-55_1511792094977.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpVBhzWkAEx-w_.jpg
So far it looks quite nice to me. :thumbsup:

https://twitter.com/MaxFosterCNN/status/935150219188162566
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpSKU_X4AAuHjs.jpg
So no Garrard's...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpPr7RW4AA9g91.jpg

PS The two smaller seem like round cuts and the larger like a cushion. I wonder whether the 2 are indeed from a dismantled brooch of Diana's, with the apt leaks my guess is "yes".


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 27, 2017, 02:31:45 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5111813/Prince-Harry-proposes-Meghan-Markle.html
Ring looks nice


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on November 27, 2017, 03:07:56 pm
This will end in loud wailing  :there:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 03:10:02 pm
It's a dazzler! Meghan Markle showcases her stunning diamond ring designed by Prince Harry himself with a stone from Botswana and two from Diana’s personal collection as she wears white to join her fiance at Kensington Palace

    Meghan looked resplendent in a chic belted white coat dress from Line the Label as she joined Harry
    Suits actress showed off dazzling ring, which Prince Harry designed for his bride himself
    One stone is from Botswana, a country that holds special significance for him, and two from Diana’s collection
    Poignantly the royal chose their first photocall in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace, much loved by his late mother Diana


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5121455/Meghan-Markle-stuns-white-Prince-Harry.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 27, 2017, 03:24:49 pm
I think Meghan (if allowed) will outdo Kate as far as work. They looked really happy together.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 03:26:28 pm
Looks very much like yellow gold, one larger stone and two smaller, "prince harry designed the diamond engagement ring. One stone from Botswana and two diamonds from Diana’s personal collection"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpRj3mWAAAsBxv.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/27/14/46BCAB7D00000578-5111813-image-a-55_1511792094977.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpVBhzWkAEx-w_.jpg
So far it looks quite nice to me. :thumbsup:

https://twitter.com/MaxFosterCNN/status/935150219188162566
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpSKU_X4AAuHjs.jpg
So no Garrard's...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpPr7RW4AA9g91.jpg

PS The two smaller seem like round cuts and the larger like a cushion. I wonder whether the 2 are indeed from a dismantled brooch of Diana's, with the apt leaks my guess is "yes".
Meghan Markle’s Engagement Ring From Prince Harry Will Feature Princess Diana’s Diamonds
Prince Harry, 33, designed a ring for the actress using diamonds from a brooch that once belonged to his mother, Princess Diana, a source tells Us

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/meghan-markle-engagement-ring-will-feature-princess-dianas-diamonds/

The ring is nice but not gorgeous IMO... i like this ring style but i've seen much more pretty rings (in that style). I dont find the main diamond that gorgeous. But i thought he'll give her a big diamond that's hollywood style ... no coloured stone

thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5008147/prince-harry-megan-markle-engagement-ring-diana/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 03:28:35 pm
the ring nice seems like that's meghan style from pics she dosen't wear big flasy jewlery


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 03:35:55 pm
^^^ It's not hard to outdo Kate. I think Kate is in serious trouble in that regard. I think Meg will leave her in the dust. Style wise, work wise, I expect better speeches from Meg and I expect her to be better prepared (by that I mean I believe Meg will dig in and actually do some work and prep, sth no Camb ever does). Her acting experience will be of great value as a Windsor/ in that "job" as "royal". I really think Meghan will outdo Kate in every way. Harry's a better charmer than Will. The Cambs I believe have now serious competition, regardless of how we (I) feel about them indvidually and as couples - like or dislike.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 03:52:21 pm
the ring nice seems like that's meghan style from pics she dosen't wear big flasy jewlery
Grace Kelly ring (from Harry Winston) was the best IMO. I also like the engagement diamond ring that Michael Douglas gave to Catherine Zeta-Jones. And the one of Amal Clooney (a very beautiful diamond)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 04:15:20 pm
N° 10 does not want to say how will Meghan stay in Uk in relation to her visa. A bad step here can create lot of anger.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 05:08:56 pm
Vincent McAviney‏
Breaking: Harry and Meghan have selected the BBC’s Michelle Husain to be the #RoyalEngagement interviewer

Jonathan Munro‏
To confirm,  @MishalHusainBBC will interview Prince #Harry & #MeghanMarkle today on behalf of all broadcasters. See it across @BBCNews, 6pm.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 05:41:03 pm
^another thing (detail) that US Weekly got correct...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 05:43:58 pm
Victoria Arbiter‏

Just got a first glimpse at Harry and Meghan’s interview. Wow, this couple is on equal footing. She won’t be walking behind her husband!

 sky live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOacA3RYrXk&feature=youtu.be

https://news.sky.com/watch-live


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Wish on November 27, 2017, 05:46:36 pm
I'm really pleased for them and wish them all the best.  I like that she's had a career, has done charity work and most importantly isn't a Middleton.  I think she might be a lot better at the "job" than some on here might have us believe.  Unlike our future Queen, Meghan is used to the spotlight and I'm hoping Meghan will use her position to highlight some of the causes she's' already affiliated with.

I honestly think this one could work and I'm really hoping that she'll shame Kate into getting off her lazy backside and start doing what we pay her to do.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: marion on November 27, 2017, 05:49:58 pm
On cynical note, this marriage could help our (the UK's) post-Brexit trade with our cousins across The Pond!!  :tehe:
but she (Meghan) is against the brexit
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/797340/meghan-markle-brexit
Well now she's joining the RF she'll have to keep political views to herself


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 05:52:10 pm
This about sums it up for me.  Let h im pay for his own marriage, and lose his taxpayer funding.  He wants to marry her, let him, at his own cost and not that of the taxpayer.

http://breakingdownthenews.blogspot.com.es/2017/11/harry-is-getting-married-i-dont-care.html?m=1


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 27, 2017, 06:06:47 pm
Why? He's a royal and entitled. And not everybody dislikes Meghan as his choice of wife.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 06:29:00 pm
'Meghan said yes straightaway': Harry reveals his romantic proposal to Suits actress as they cooked roast chicken in his cottage in the couple's first joint interview

    Couple said they were roasting chicken on a 'cosy night' at Kensington Palace
    Meghan Markle did not even wait for him to finish proposal before she said 'yes'
    Harry and Miss Markle were interviewed by BBC presenter Mishal Husain today


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5122055/Harry-reveals-romantic-proposal-Meghan-Meghan.html

What is it with her and the nude sandals and the sleeveless dress in England in November??  :- Has the woman no sense for weather or a calendar or anything?

Honestly, she's already put Waity in her place: better spoken, gives more intelligent answers and doesn't look constantly to her fiance for approval/ confirmation.

Apparently they never went for longer than 2 weeks without seeing each other...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 06:29:25 pm
watched the interveiw

a female friend set them up
Meghan met the spencer side of the family
met HM a cople of time ' the corgis loved meghan
One of meghan's dog is in the UK now the other one is with a good friend
met charles a couple of times aslo
met william and kate alot
harry never watched suits so he didnt know who meghan was
Proposed to Meghan during a night in at Nottingham Cottage while they were cooking dinner "roasting a chicken"
they couldn't  take their eys of each during the interveiw

IMO
looking at meghan is the alpha in this romance  she is no push over
harry is very into her and she's into him  


its already up on youtube

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle detail proposal and romance| First post-engagement Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipuU0hHYiF4


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 27, 2017, 06:43:01 pm
I thought it was a lovely interview. They were so happy and at ease with each other. There were little nuggets like the fact that the corgis lay on Meghan's feet during tea with the Queen, that she'd met the Spencer side of the family, all about the proposal, how Harry had fallen very quickly and they had to make time for each other, and how he's looking forward to her joining The Firm.
Meghan wasn't pushy but she was articulate and confident. How many takes did Kate have on her engagement interview? About a dozen, wasn't it? These two were both so comfortable together. Terrific!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 06:56:05 pm
^^ & ^ Agree.

Though she said one of the dogs has been in London for a while  :akasha:

I don't entirely buy everything they said, but it seemed less manufactured than Bill & Waity's codswallop (eg the Kenya proposal), more natural and yeah Megsy sure already did a much better job than Waity in.. ever. Waity's been in for what 6 years now and Meg already performed better than Waity ever did. Meg can already pat herself on the back.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 27, 2017, 07:19:10 pm
^Au contraire.  It was far more manufactured than anything Waity has done.  We have an expert here.  What a performance!  Ha!

She's a full-fledged Hollywood-manufactured phony.  Granted, a Grade A one, but a phony nonetheless.  And an easy liar, to boot!  There is no way on God's green earth that she didn't understand the world of "tabloid journalism" after all her years in LA.  Come on!  And the bit about not really knowing who PH is?  Laughable.  And petting herself with, "all I wanted to know was, is he kind?"

It was good for a laugh.  She's one smooth operator and ol' Harry's sold. 

Time will take care of this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 07:21:25 pm
Exactly Yooper. She looks good and talks well because she is a Hollywood creation.

Kate was a disaster but that was herself or trying to give an image but she couldn't do it.

I dislike how Meghan has to talk always over Harry and how she tries to steer him to where she wants.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 07:21:44 pm
^^ Totally agree, not an actress for nothing.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 07:28:09 pm
Meghan Markle's mom prepared to become a royal mother-in-law with relaxed weekend at her Los Angeles home where security was stepped up after engagement announcement

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5122205/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-Ragland-gets-security-detail.html#ixzz4zf6k4rRP
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5122205/Meghan-Markles-mother-Doria-Ragland-gets-security-detail.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 07:36:10 pm
uh oh Harry about meeting his father and brother... the real story must be awesome  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on November 27, 2017, 07:45:21 pm
To my surprise, I find myself liking Meghan.  kisss


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 07:48:53 pm
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on November 27, 2017, 08:04:08 pm
I could only watch some of the interview. meghan is hard as nails, ironclad, a full on actress, and I didnt really buy much of what they said. harry seemed awkward. what a weird situation.  :cookie:


I dont see this lasting beyond 8 years...5 even


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on November 27, 2017, 08:37:37 pm
I don't think I'll bother to watch the interview. I like the synopsis that Fly on the Wall wrote. Although, I'm sure I'll hear bits and pieces of the interview once I go home and watch the nightly news.

I'm just looking forward to the wedding: wedding/reception gowns, tiara/hairpiece, and clothing/hats of the guests.  :loveshower:

I've been in a coma since my mother called out to me while I was in the bathroom this morning that he was engaged. I don't know why  :dontknow:. I knew this was coming, but I wasn't ready. I guess I'm freakin JEALOUS!  :sob:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2017, 08:41:15 pm
Exactly Yooper. She looks good and talks well because she is a Hollywood creation.

Kate was a disaster but that was herself or trying to give an image but she couldn't do it.

I dislike how Meghan has to talk always over Harry and how she tries to steer him to where she wants.

She treats him like he’s stupid and he is. Thank goodness I don’t have to pay for that fake and unconvincing actress. That family learned nothing from the 90s. I gave up on Harry a long time ago, but they are not worth the money spent on them. Anyway, at least now I have a newfound appreciation for Kate. Who would have thought...

 :hi: everyone. Long time no see!



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on November 27, 2017, 08:43:18 pm
It Meghan is acting this life event, I greatly prefer her skills to Kate’s Fake Posh and lack of self confidence. Is it possible to be in the public eye and NOT be an actor?

 :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on November 27, 2017, 08:45:53 pm
^ not any more it seems


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Byechoc on November 27, 2017, 08:47:16 pm
I could only watch some of the interview. meghan is hard as nails, ironclad, a full on actress, and I didnt really buy much of what they said. harry seemed awkward. what a weird situation.  :cookie:


I dont see this lasting beyond 8 years...5 even
I believe this and cambs wedding will last until QEII is alive, she will never allow them to divorce because it was their choice!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2017, 09:11:18 pm


She treats him like he’s stupid and he is. Thank goodness I don’t have to pay for that fake and unconvincing actress. That family learned nothing from the 90s. I gave up on Harry a long time ago, but they are not worth the money spent on them. Anyway, at least now I have a newfound appreciation for Kate. Who would have thought...

 :hi: everyone. Long time no see!



nice to see you posting  :hug:

good point about Harry  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 27, 2017, 09:17:11 pm
^


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 27, 2017, 09:56:20 pm
^Au contraire.  It was far more manufactured than anything Waity has done.  We have an expert here.  What a performance!  Ha!

She's a full-fledged Hollywood-manufactured phony.  Granted, a Grade A one, but a phony nonetheless.  And an easy liar, to boot!  There is no way on God's green earth that she didn't understand the world of "tabloid journalism" after all her years in LA.  Come on!  And the bit about not really knowing who PH is?  Laughable.  And petting herself with, "all I wanted to know was, is he kind?"

It was good for a laugh.  She's one smooth operator and ol' Harry's sold. 

Time will take care of this.

I do agree, hence the "seemed less manufactured" hehe! Whilst watching it I spotted some lies and things where I am convinced they bent the truth and exaggerated or fudged things to suit them. Meghan though didn't need to be fed lines, she didn't stammer, stutter, was quite well-spoken, didn't have a phoney accent, and didn't seek Harry's constant approval and seemed more natural. Definitely the actress in her, years having spent in that career have prepared her well for this. The question then is: how long and how much will she be able to "keep calm (pretend) and carry on"?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 27, 2017, 10:05:37 pm

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Prince Harry: ... amazing, as has William as well, you know, fantastic support. And then my - my father as well, we had a couple of - no more than that ...
Meghan Markle: We've had ...

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Meghan Markle: It was just - you know it was just obvious that no matter what we were being put through that it was just temporary and that we were going to be able to get through that. So everybody was really happy. And he's talked to my dad a few times, hasn't been able to meet him just yet, but it's all been, it's all been worth every effort.

they barely talked about   :dontknow:  CHarles And the father Meghan


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Int: That has to be a good sign. Speaking of dogs, have you brought yours to the UK?
Meghan Markle: Well I have two dogs that I've had for quite a long time, both my rescue pups. And one is now staying with very close friends and my other little guy is, yes he's in the UK, he's been here for a while.
Int: Okay, let's hope he adjusts well.
Meghan Markle: I think he's doing just fine.
i like this part     :flirt:
hope she does not abandon the older dog.

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Int: And was that quite refreshing for you in the way that you've been brought up, with a lot of people knowing a lot about you, was it refreshing?
Prince Harry: Or thinking they know
Int: Or thinking they know.
Meghan Markle: Exactly
Exactly   :flower:    for Harry's fans and critics


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 10:07:10 pm
Why? He's a royal and entitled. And not everybody dislikes Meghan as his choice of wife.

He is a royal by birth, he has not earned that privilege, and never will based on his recent shallow way of life.  He is also part of a family that is unelected, they were note voted it by the taxpayer, so why should we want to fund them.  The whole family think they are entitled entitled to sponge money from the taxpayer but why should we pay tax to fund them when we don´t want to. A high percentage of people us don´twant to fund the rf in this day and age, but we are not given a choice, unfortunately. There are also many, many Brits who do not like murky murkle.  I certainly would not be proud or happy if my son wanted to marry a female like her, I would be appalled.  As a British taxpayer I should be able to choose who I want to fund, and it sure is not the rf en masse, or a foregin marry in.  Why should she get a luxurious lifestyle at the cost of the British people.  Why should UK taxpayers fund a US person.  Can I go and live in the US and sponge off the taxpayer  - highly unlikely, would be deported fast.  Many of us do not wish to fund haza´s choice of wife, therefore there is no reason on this earth, with the fortune he has already inherited from his mother, that he can´t fund her himself.  He chooses to marry her, he has plenty of money of his own already, if he wants a US wife then let him pay to fund their lifestyle, why push it on to the good old taxpayer.  The UK is in an economic crisis, people losing their homes through no fault of their own, parents,.pesnioners etc queueing at food and clothing banks, living hand to mout.  Why should they suffer for the likes of haza, a man with a fortune he did not even earn,  marrying murky murkle.  The British NHS in crisis, veterans thrown out of their homes for immigrants,  and the list goes on, it is endless, and yet we are expected to fund these people.  They are one huge gift to the Republic.  He wants to marry a non Brit, let him get on with it.  Remember, even the money he inherited came from Diana, it was from her divorce settlement, paid by chucky and his money comes from the taxpayers of the Duchy of Cornwall.    And yes, the Duchy of Cornwall is funded by  - the taxpayer.  All roads with that lot originate from the taxpayer.  The millions spent on the wedding could help an awful lot of people in this economic crisis, not wasted on a lazy prince and his American bride, the people of the UK should come first. If all these people world wide think this is so wonderful, then let them pay for his wedding and his lifestyle, bet they wouldn´t put a hand in their pockets though.  There should be a box on our tax forms asking if we wish to contribute to the rf  -  they won´t do that because not many would tick the box.  So no, I do not think he is entitled to foist a US bride on us and expect us to fund her.  He wants her, let him pay for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Marckle are engaged
Post by: Anastasia on November 27, 2017, 10:08:52 pm
Wasn't Letizia an atheist converted to catholicism? at least that's the rumour I've read in some articles. As far as I know, it's been said that Rachel was a protestant and converted to judaism and then back to being a protestant again :dontknow:
 I'd also like to watch the interview.

Leticia was a Republican too, Charlene was protestant, and Memarbles was a feminist ?¿ These women dont have religion or ideals , their religions in status and money.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 27, 2017, 10:11:54 pm
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int: How did you first meet?
Prince Harry: Ah yes, we first met - we were introduced actually by a mutual friend, who - we will ...

Meghan Markle: We should protect her privacy and not reveal too much of that.
Prince Harry: We'll protect her privacy yeah. And - but it was - it was literally - it was through her and then we met once and then twice back-to-back two dates in London, last July.
Meghan Markle: Yes.

or they do not want to'' assume ''  :wopedo:   that it was Markus Anderson  


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Int: But the friend who introduced you, was she trying to set you up?
Meghan Markle: Yes, it was definitely a set-up. It was a blind date.
Prince Harry: It was definitely a set-up. It was a blind date for sure.
:tehe:  .I can imagine  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4200934/The-famous-faces-went-Blind-Date-looking-love.html

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Int: So how much did you, Prince Harry, know about Meghan? Had you seen her on TV?

Prince Harry: No. I'd never even heard about her until this friend said Meghan Markle. I was like 'right, okay, give me a bit of background ... what's going on here?' So no, I'd never watched Suits, I'd never heard of Meghan before, and I was beautifully surprised when I walked into that room and saw her. And there she was sitting there... I was like okay well I'm going to have to up my game ... sit down and make sure I've got good chat.
:sigh: not surprise

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Int: But do you have that sense of responsibility, Prince Harry, for what you're asking Meghan to do?

Prince Harry: Of course, that sense of responsibility was essentially from day one or maybe a couple of months in, when I suddenly realised actually this is... I feel, I know that I'm in love with this girl, and I hope that she's in love with me, but we still had to sit down on the sofa. I still had to have some pretty frank conversations with her to say, you know what you're letting yourself in for, is ...it's a big deal and it's not...it's not easy for anybody. But I know that at the end of the day she chooses me, and I choose her, and therefore whatever we have to tackle together or individually we'll always be us together as a team, so I think she's capable...
:flower: good vision


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Byechoc on November 27, 2017, 10:16:15 pm
I do agree, hence the "seemed less manufactured" hehe! Whilst watching it I spotted some lies and things where I am convinced they bent the truth and exaggerated or fudged things to suit them. Meghan though didn't need to be fed lines, she didn't stammer, stutter, was quite well-spoken, didn't have a phoney accent, and didn't seek Harry's constant approval and seemed more natural. Definitely the actress in her, years having spent in that career have prepared her well for this. The question then is: how long and how much will she be able to "keep calm (pretend) and carry on"?

While she is happy... and everything is roses ....until the day that fame, official trips, vacations, clothes, jewels, shoes, the premieres are not enough! There will be a day that will be a curse....


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 10:18:50 pm
The takeaway from Prince Harry’s engagement is that the monarchy is a useless institution which needs to go

http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/27/the-takeaway-from-prince-harrys-engagement-is-that-the-monarchy-is-a-useless-institution-which-needs-to-go-7111945/?ito=social.t26


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Anastasia on November 27, 2017, 10:19:16 pm
May I eat my words? Kate is fine, shes just fine!  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2017, 10:23:52 pm
Here is the full transcript of that heartfelt, candid interview:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/full-transcript-prince-harry-meghan-markles-engagement-interview/story?id=51415779

Interviewer: Your Royal Highness, Meghan Markle, congratulations to you both.


Meghan Markle: Thank you.
Int: Can we start with the proposal and the actual moment of your engagement. When did it happen? How did it happen?
Prince Harry: It happened a few weeks ago, earlier this month, here at our cottage; just a standard typical night for us.
Meghan Markle: Just a cosy night, it was - what we were doing just roasting chicken and having ...
Prince Harry: Roasting a chicken, trying to roast a chicken.
Meghan Markle: Trying to roast a chicken and it just - just an amazing surprise, it was so sweet and natural and very romantic. He got on one knee.
Prince Harry: Of course.
Int: Was it an instant yes from you?
Meghan Markle: Yes, as a matter of fact I could barely let you finish proposing. I said, "Can I say 'yes' now?"
Prince Harry: She didn't even let me finish. She said, "Can I say yes? Can I say yes?" and then were was hugs and I had the ring in my finger and I was like, "Can I - can I give you the ring?" She goes, "Oh yes the ring." So no it was - it was a really nice moment, it was just the two of us and I think managed to catch - catch her by surprise as well.
Meghan Markle: Yeah.




Int: And this is how long after you first met?
Meghan Markle: Oh it would be a year and a half, a little bit more than that?
Prince Harry: No just about - it would be about a year and a half yeah.
Meghan Markle: Just about that?
Int: Which for most people would be quite a whirlwind. Is that how it's felt to you?
Meghan Markle: I don't think that I would call it a whirlwind in terms of our relationship. Obviously there have been layers attached to how public it has become after we had a good five, six months almost with just privacy, which was amazing. But no, I think we were able to really have so much time just to connect and we never went longer than two weeks without seeing each other, even though we were obviously doing a long distance relationship. So it's - we made it work.
Int: How did you first meet?
Prince Harry: Ah yes, we first met - we were introduced actually by a mutual friend, who - we will ...
Meghan Markle: We should protect her privacy and not reveal too much of that.
Prince Harry: We'll protect her privacy yeah. And - but it was - it was literally - it was through her and then we met once and then twice back to back two dates in London, last July.
Meghan Markle: Yes.
Prince Harry: The beginning of July. And then it was I think about three, maybe four weeks later that I managed to persuade her to come and join me in Botswana. And we - we camped out with each other under the stars, we spent - she came and joined me for five days out there, which was absolutely fantastic. So then we were really by ourselves. Which I think, which was crucial to me to make sure we had a chance to get to know each other.
Int: But the friend who introduced you, was she trying to set you up?
Meghan Markle: Yes, it was definitely a set up. (laughs) It was a blind date. And it’s so interesting because we talk about it and now and even then, I, you know, because I’m from the States, you don’t grow up with the same understanding of the royal family and so while I now understand very clearly, there’s a global interest there. I didn’t know much about him, and so the only thing that I had asked her when she said that she wanted to set us up, was, I had one question. I said, "Well is he nice?" Cause if he wasn't kind, it just didn’t, it didn’t seem like it would make sense and so, we went and had a, met for a drink, and then I think very quickly into that we said, "Well what are we doing tomorrow? We should meet again."
Prince Harry: "What are we doing tomorrow? Let’s meet again." And then it was like, "Right there is, we need to get the darries out and find out how we’re gonna make this work." Because I was off to Africa for a month, and she was working. And we just sort of right where is, where’s the gap? And, the gap happened to be in the perfect place. So.


Int: How much did you Prince Harry know about Meghan? Had you seen her on TV?
Prince Harry: No, I’d never, never even heard about her until this friend said "Meghan Markle." I was like right, "OK, give me, give me a bit of background."(Meghan Markle laughs). "Like what’s going on here?" So no, I’d never, I’d never watched "Suits," I’d never heard of Meghan before. And I was beautifully surprised when I, when I walked into that room and saw her. There she was sitting there, I was like, "OK, well, I’m really gonna have to up my game!" (laughs) Sit down and have a, and make sure I’ve got good chat.
Meghan Markle: I think for both of us though, it was, it was really refreshing because given that I didn’t know a lot about him. Everything that I’ve learned about him, I learned through him. As opposed to having grown up around different news stories, or tabloids, or whatever else. Anything I learned about him and his family was what he would share with me. And, vice versa. So for both of us, it was just a really authentic and organic way to get to know each other.
Int: And was that quite refreshing for you, in the way that you’ve been brought up, you know, with a lot of people knowing a lot about you?
Prince Harry: Well, thinking they know.
Int: Well, thinking they know.
Meghan Markle: Exactly.
Prince Harry: Yeah, no. It was hugely refreshing to be able to get to know someone who isn’t necessarily within your circle, doesn’t know much about me, I didn’t know much about her, so to be able to start almost fresh, right from the beginning, and getting to know each other step by step, and then taking that huge leap of only two dates, and then (Meghan Markle chuckles), and then going holiday together in the middle of nowhere. And you know, sharing a, sharing a tent together and all that kind of stuff. It was, it was fantastic. It was absolutely amazing to get to know her, as quickly as I did.
Int: Starting a long distance relationship, you were working on "Suits," you had, I imagine, a packed filming schedule, you’ve got lots of commitments of your own, how hard was it, to keep things going?
Prinec Harry: (takes a breath) It was-
Meghan Markle: It was just a choice. Right? I think that very early on, when we realized we were going to commit to each other, that we knew we had to invest in the time and the energy and whatever it took to make that happen. And, so yes. With the filming schedule, (laughs) it was not the easiest, because it of course included a lot of travel. Back and forth, but.
Prince Harry: Other than you had any idea what time zone you’d be... for the last year and a half.
Meghan Markle: No. (laughs)
Prince Harry: Coming over here four days or a week, and then going back and then straight into filming the next day. 4 A.M. wake calls, on a Monday, straight into set, you know.
Meghan Markle: Right off the plane and straight to set. Just coming back into it again.
Prince Harry: And just trying to, just trying to stay as close as possible. But, you know, on two different time zones. And five hours apart does have its challenges. But, but you know, we made it work, and now we’re here. So, we’re thrilled.

Int: But in the case of your relationship, unlike for most people, there’s this whole layer of what it means to get involved with someone from the royal family. How much of a sense did you have, Meghan, of the enormity of what you were getting into? What it might mean for your life?
Meghan Markle: I think I can very safely say as naive as it sounds now, having gone through this learning curve in the past year and a half I did not have any understanding of just what it would be like. I don't think either of us did that we both said that even though we knew that it would be.
Prince Harry: No, I tried to I tried I tried to warn try to warn you as much as possible but I think both of us were totally surprised by the reaction after the first five six months where we had to ourselves of what actually happened from then. So I think you can you can have as many conversations as you want and try and prepare as much as possible. But we were we were totally unprepared for what happened after that.
Int: The scrutiny.
Meghan Markle: I mean I think also because there was a misconception that because I have worked in the entertainment industry that this would be something I would be familiar with. But even though I've been on my show for I guess six years at that point and working before that I've never been part of tabloid culture. I've never been in pop culture to that degree and and lived relatively quiet life even though I focused so much on my job. So that was a really stark difference out of the gate. But, and I think we were just hit so hard at the beginning with a lot of mistruths that I made the choice to not read anything. Positive or negative. It just didn't make sense and instead we focused all of our energies just on nurturing our relationship.
Prince Harry: On us, yeah.
Meghan Markle: On us.
Int: And some of that scrutiny and you ended up making a very public statement about it, some of that scrutiny was centered around your ethnicity, Meghan. When you realized that, what did you think?
Meghan Markle: Of course, it's disheartening. You know it's it's a shame that that is the climate in this world to focus that much on that or that that would be discriminatory in that sense but I think you know at the end of the day I'm really just proud of who I am and where I come from, and we have never put any focus on that. We've just focused on who we are as a couple. And so when you take all those extra layers away and all of that noise, I think it makes it really easy to just enjoy being together and tune all the rest of that out.

Int: But now that it is all official Prince Harry, do you have that sense that the combination of the two of you, you're different backgrounds, that you together represent something new for the royal family.
Prince Harry: For me, it's an added member of the family. It’s another team player as part of the bigger team and you know for all of us, what we want to do is be able to carry out the right engagements, carry out our work and try and encourage others in the younger generation to be able to see the world in the correct sense rather than perhaps being just having a distorted view. So you know, the fact that I fell, the fact that I fell in love with Megan so incredibly quickly was a sort of confirmation to me that everything, all the stars were aligned. Everything was just perfect it was this beautiful woman just sort of that she tripped and fell into my life, I fell into her life (Meghan Markle laughs). The fact that she, I know that the fact that she'll be really unbelievably good at the job part of it as well, is almost is a huge relief to me because she'll be able to deal with everything else that comes with it. But, no, we're a fantastic team. We know we are. And, we hope to over time try and have as much impact for all the things that we care about as much as possible.
Meghan Markle: I am very excited about that, yeah.
Int: And Megan, given your acting in the profile you had, you'd already been involved in various courses. You’ve been an ambassador for U.N. women. What about this new role, I mean, you're going to have a bigger platform, a bigger voice. What do you want to do with it?
Meghan Markle: I think what's been really exciting as we talk about the transition of this out of my career but into the role is that as you said the causes that have been very important to me, I can focus even more energy on. Because very early out of the gate I think you realize once you have access or a voice that people are willing to listen to with that comes a lot of responsibility, which I take seriously. And at the same time I think in these beginning few months and now being boots on the ground in the U.K. I'm excited to just really get to know more about the different communities here, smaller organizations we're working on the same causes that I've always been passionate about under this umbrella. And and also being able to go around the commonwealth I think is just just the beginning of that.
Prince Harry: There's a lot to do, there’s a lot to do.
Int: And it's an immense change: you're getting a new country out of it. A husband obviously, but also giving up your career.
Meghan Markle: Yes, but I don't see it as giving anything up, I just see it as a change.
Prince Harry: It's a new challenge.
Meghan Markle: It’s a new chapter. Right. And also keep in mind I been working on my show for seven years. So we're very very fortunate to be able to have that sort of longevity on a series and for me, once we hit the 100 episode marker I thought you know what I have I have ticked this box and I feel really proud of the work I've done there and now it's time to, as you said work work as a team with you.
Int: But do you have that sense of responsibility Prince Harry, for what you thought you were asking Meghan to do?
Prince Harry: Of course. That sense of responsibility was was essentially from day one or maybe a couple of months in, when I sort of realized actually, this is you know, I feel I know that I'm in love with this girl. And I hope that she is in love with me. We still have to sit down and I still, you know, I still have to have some pretty frank conversations with her to say you know what you're letting yourself in for it is it is it's a big it's a big deal and it's you know it's not it's not it's not easy for anybody. But I know that at the end of the day, she chooses me and I choose her. And therefore you know whatever whatever we have to tackle together or individually, will always be us together as a team. So I think, I think she's capable.
Meghan Markle: So nicely said, isn't it?
Prince Harry: She's capable of she's capable of anything. And together as I said there’s a hell of a lot of stuff, work that needs doing. At the moment for us, it's going to be making sure that our relationship is always put first, but both of us have passions for wanting to make change, change for good. And you know with lots of young people running around the commonwealth, that's where we’ll spend most of our time hopefully.
Meghan Markle: And it was really one of the first things we connected on, it was one of the first things we started talking about when we met was just the different things that we wanted to do in the world and how passionate we were about seeing change. I think that was, that's what got date two (laughs), in the books probably.
Prince Harry: Plenty to talk about.
Int: Children?
Prince Harry: Not, not currently no. No, of course you know. I think you know one step at a time, and hopefully we’ll start a family in the near future.


Int: Have you met each other's families, I imagine?
Meghan Markle: Yes. His family's been so welcoming and.
Prince Harry: You've met quite a few of them actually.
Meghan Markle: I have! On both sides of his family, his mom's side as well which has been really important to me too. But yes the family has been great, and over the past year and a half. We've just had a really nice time getting to know them and progressively helping me feel a part of not just the institution but also part of the family, which has been really really special.
Prince Harry: Trying to track them down and make sure that they're around at the same time that she's popping in without telling too many people (MM laughs). We've managed, we’ve actually done incredibly well, and to make sure you've met all the key people.
Int: So does that mean a lot of the time that you've been together in this last year and a half. You've been, you've been at home a lot.
Prince Harry: Yes.
Meghan Markle: Yes.
Prince Harry: We had to sort of reverse the whole process and cozy nights in, in front of the television, cooking dinner with just the two of us by ourselves, in our little cottage. Rather going out for dinner and being seen in public. So we, we reversed the whole process which is, it's provided different opportunities. And has made us a hell of a lot closer in a short space of time. That's without question. So you know if anybody else,... maybe slow down to date, spend more time at home. But no, it's it's for us it's it's an opportunity to really get to know each other without other people, you know, looking, trying to take photos on the phones and that kind of stuff. That comes comes comes with it comes with the job comes the role.
Meghan Markle: And we were able to really get to know each other that way, but also then to go and have friends over for dinner or to go to his family's tea or any of those things and even you know just to take the - take the time to be able to go on long country walks and just talk.
Prince Harry: We've been - we've been all over the place.
Int: Have you met the Queen?
Meghan Markle: I have, yes.
Prince Harry: A couple of times.
Meghan Markle: Yes, true, a couple of times.
Int: What was that like?
Meghan Markle: It's incredible, I think, you know, a) to be able to meet her through his lens, not just with his honour and respect for her as the monarch, but the love that he has for her as his grandmother, all of those layers have been so important for me so that when I met her I had such a deep understanding and of course incredible respect for being able to have that time with her. And we've had a really - she's - she's an incredible woman.
Prince Harry: And the corgis took to you straight away.
Meghan Markle: That's true.
Prince Harry: I've spent the last 33 years being barked at; this one walks in, absolutely nothing ...
Meghan Markle: Just laying on my feet during tea, it was very sweet.
Prince Harry: ... just wagging tails and I was just like "Argh."
Int: That has to be a good sign. Speaking of dogs, have you brought yours to the UK?
Meghan Markle: Well I have two dogs that I've had for quite a long time, both my rescue pups. And one is now staying with very close friends and my other little guy is - yes he's in the UK, he's been here for a while.
Int: Okay, let's hope he adjusts well.
Meghan Markle: I think he's doing just fine.
Int: What was it like introducing Meghan to your father and your brother?
Prince Harry: What was it like? It was exciting I mean I've - you know I'd been seeing her for a period of time when I - literally didn't tell anybody at all. And then William was longing to meet her and so was Catherine, so you know being our neighbors we managed to get that in a couple of - well quite a few times now and Catherine has been absolutely ...
Meghan Markle: She's been wonderful.
Prince Harry: ... amazing, as has William as well, you know, fantastic support. And then my - my father as well, we had a couple of - no more than that ...
Meghan Markle: We've had ...
Prince Harry: ... A handful of teas and meetings and all sorts of gatherings over at his place as well. So no the family together have been absolutely, you know, a solid support and my grandparents as well have been - have been wonderful throughout this whole process and they've known for quite some time. So how they - how they haven't told anybody is - is again a miracle in itself. But now the whole family have come together and have been a huge amount of support.
Meghan Markle: They've been amazing.
Int: And Meghan your parents, do you think - you know while very happy for you obviously ...
Meghan Markle: Yes.
Int: ... Do you think they have worried at all about the scale of what you're getting into?
Meghan Markle: Well I'm sure the onset, both my parents and my close friends were concerned, because we got very quickly swept up in a media storm that, as I shared, was not part of my life before that, but they also had never seen me so happy. And I think also once my friends - excuse me, were able to - to really meet Harry, and my mom, who we've spent a lot of time with, who is so much fun.
Prince Harry: Her mum's amazing.
Meghan Markle: It was just - you know it was just obvious that no matter what we were being put through that it was just temporary and that we were going to be able to get through that. So everybody was really happy. And he's talked to my dad a few times, hasn't been able to meet him just yet, but it's all been -it's all been worth every effort.
Prince Harry: Yeah, yeah it's been great.
Int: Your ring.
Meghan Markle: Oh yes.
Int: Tell us about your ring.
Prince Harry: The ring is - is obviously yellow gold because that's what - her favorite and the main stone itself I sourced from Botswana and the - the little diamonds either side are from my mother's jewelry collection to make sure that she's with us on this - on this crazy journey together. And ...
Meghan Markle: It's beautiful, and he designed it, it's incredible.
Prince Harry: Yeah, make sure it stays on that finger (laughs)
Meghan Markle: Of course. (laughs)
Int: What does it mean to you Meghan to have those stones on your finger that once belonged to Princess Diana?
Meghan Markle: I think everything about Harry's thoughtfulness is - and the inclusion of that and obviously not being able to meet his mom it's so important to me to - to know that she's a part of this with us. And I think in being able to meet his aunts and - and also like Julia and just different people who were so important to his mom, I'm able to, in some way, know a part of her through them and of course through him. And it's - it's incredibly special. And you know to be able to have this which sort of links where you come from and Botswana which is important to us and it's - it's perfect.
Int: What do you think your mother would have thought of Meghan, or said about Meghan?
Prince Harry: Oh they'd be thick as thieves, without question, I think she would be over the moon, jumping up and down, you know so excited for me, but then, as I said, would have probably been best friends - best friends with Meghan. So no it's - you know it is days like - days like today when - when I really miss having her around and miss being able to share the happy news. But you know with the ring and with everything else that's going on I'm sure she's ...
Meghan Markle: She's with us.
Prince Harry: I'm sure she's with us yeah, you know, jumping up and down somewhere else.
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 10:24:02 pm
^^Not much to choose between the pair of them is there, as bad as one another in different ways.  Neither suitable to be in the rf, not one bit.  The only way she can be better than council cath is with her acting experience and not acting like a blithering idiot on engagements waving her hands like a thing demented.

Certainly looks preggers in this

https://i.imgur.com/F7wFVYg.gif


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2017, 10:36:01 pm
All I can say about this is that Harry presented himself to be a kind and decent bloke who genuinely cared about those less fortunate and used his priveledged position to help them. It seems that the real him just wants to have a good time and be left to his own devices in choosing Meghan as his wife. Over the course of this affair, she's shown herself to be a liar and a phony. Now not only does the royal family look like fools for allowing this after ignoring her and dismissing a marriage between them as nonsense, but Harry looks like he's a desperate old fool for being attached to someone who's about herself. I wonder what's the point of the royal family having heavy security around them and having the services of MI5 at their disposal when they keep hanging around unsavory types like Epstein (Andrew), the Midds (Wills) and now Meghan/Markus and the SoHo trash.
Since she's an American, I think her vetting might be more stringent to get her visa. I don't think the public would be pleased that she'd get an easy pass because quite a few people are already ticked off at what a waste the royal family is. The DM mentioned a while ago about some disturbing news about Meghan that will give the courtiers and Harry concern for years to come. If true, the American press will definitely publish it since now she can't say that she's a private citizen.
Yooper, spit on as usual. She's so manufactured that she can't seem to just be. She seems like she so on all the time.
Harry can't have the nerve to tell anyone one off when he gets ridiculed for playing this game for a year and giving the finger to the British people who forgave him his indiscretions (Vegas, Nazi uniform, playboy image the press often played, etc). He deserves to get it in the neck for choosing such a poor character to be his wife after saying that he wanted the public to be proud of his choice of a wife during an interview a few years ago. Meghan can't take criticism because the first sign of the press calling her out, she went straight to the lawyers and cried racism. As a woman of color myself, women like her who do that make me sick to my stomach.
Her presence doesn't make me appreciate Waity as she's a major joke too.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on November 27, 2017, 11:53:24 pm
^Au contraire.  It was far more manufactured than anything Waity has done.  We have an expert here.  What a performance!  Ha!

She's a full-fledged Hollywood-manufactured phony.  Granted, a Grade A one, but a phony nonetheless.  And an easy liar, to boot!  There is no way on God's green earth that she didn't understand the world of "tabloid journalism" after all her years in LA.  Come on!  And the bit about not really knowing who PH is?  Laughable.  And petting herself with, "all I wanted to know was, is he kind?"

It was good for a laugh.  She's one smooth operator and ol' Harry's sold.  

Time will take care of this.
Watching the interview i have says this woman is as smart as carole and camilla... kate is just a silly and insecure teenager next to those women

it's beyond the obvious who wears the pants in this relationship


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2017, 12:21:24 am
She looked quite demented with her waving and over the top facial expressions in the few pictures I've seen from the garden photo shoot. It seems like the interview was equally awkward with her doing most of the chatting. Harry comes off like a blithering idiot when he can't discribe the circumstances of how they met and how many dates they went on. Didn't they go on dates during the winter season; the theater where they were wearing winter beanies? How come he looked all uncomfortable during Skippy's wedding, her getting booted out at the polo game and her largely ignoring her at the tennis match during the IG. IMO, she comes off unbalanced and most likely threatened to self harm if Harry left her or didn't marry her. Odd all around this so called relationship has. I don't feel Waity will be more appreciated because Harry's scrapped the bottom of the deep sewer with this one. Very low grade type of woman indeed. The actor who plays Mike on Suits, doesn't seem impressed by this development at all. In fact, he's been taking shots at her and the romance since last year.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on November 28, 2017, 12:21:41 am
Windsor, you are right Harry presented himself as a very compassionate caring person...that he has chosen as his wife this hard eyed manufactured insecure grasping diva, is either showing his true colors, or he is acting now. it is truly baffling.

I don't like kate, but meghan makes her look ok by comparison.

and I think the female friend is marcus  :P


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: FrederickLouis on November 28, 2017, 12:23:08 am
Joyful happiness to Prince Henry and Meghan!  kisss kisss


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 12:25:26 am
The Guardian view on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle: they’re engaged. That’s nice

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are getting married. That’s nice. Correction: that’s really, really nice. Even a republican paper smiles with pleasure and wishes the couple every happiness. The younger Harry could often be foolish, but there’s rightly a lot of affection for him these days – and everyone likes a wedding. When the big day comes, some will look in the other direction, but a lot more will tune in. It will be a public celebration. There’s nothing wrong with either response.

In a constitutional sense, this wedding is not really an important event. It isn’t epochal. It shouldn’t be asked to bear too much weight. Prince Harry is only fifth in line to the throne, and about to sink to sixth. He is not going to be head of state. Presidents and premiers need not be invited. Ms Markle’s Americanness, mixed race, acting career and divorce are all interesting. None of them, though, is unprecedented among the royals. The striking thing is that such issues do not matter in the way they might once have done.

This marriage will tell us little about the state of the monarchy or the nation beyond the obvious truth that most people enjoy a glamorous wedding. Most people will also keep it in perspective. The wedding is a happy distraction. Fascinating, yes. Delightful, yes. Significant, not very.https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/the-guardian-view-on-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-theyre-engaged-thats-nice


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: carolmr on November 28, 2017, 12:30:15 am
Is Meghan Catholic or Protestant?  I know she went to Catholic schools.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2017, 12:31:20 am
I think HM owes Princess Margaret an apology and Wallis is owed one as well.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 12:52:18 am
^^ There are claims that she's Jewish as well. I think no one knows for sure, but ultimately it doesn't matter, because marrying a catholic (or non-CoE person) does not exclude one anymore from the line of succession. The children must be raised CoE though to be eligible for the line of succession.

^ Wherever Wallis is, she must be screeching like a banshee. I mean we know good ole Dave had other problems, for which he had to be removed, but still.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 12:53:05 am
I think she will surpass Kate in the work department, if allowed. Kate waited ten years doing very little with her time in her wait for the ring. Meghan worked for a living and earned her own money.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CathyJane on November 28, 2017, 01:00:28 am
I was so hoping this day would never come. MM is as hard as Ma; not a good thing. I think she has swept Harry along and overwhelmed him. She's older, far more mature and seems to be the one in charge. This marriage may not be the train wreck Willy and Waity's is but it's not going to be all love and roses.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2017, 01:13:08 am
Oh, it'll be a train wreck if it actually goes through that is. The answers to the interview sounds like they're not in sync with the answers. It reminds me of couples who are getting married for visa issues and can't get it together regarding how long they've dated and how the met. In this case, Meghan needs a visa to live in the U.K. unless Harry plans on quitting the royal family and lives elsewhere with her.
She comes off cold and calculating like the woman in Gone Girl; the off vibe and her over the top expressions and waves, very odd.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 01:20:12 am
^ I don't take Visa or citizenship issues one bit into account, as those things don't matter for the well connected, which of course includes Markles. She'll be handed whatever she wants, and in all likelihood that means citizenship and she's lucky that Britain and the US allow dual citizenships, so she won't to have to choose.
And I'd wager a bet that her parents (at least her mother) will get a sponsored visitation visa, if you have the money (costs around 10,000) you can buy a "tourist visa" that allows the holder constant visitation rights for 8 years. Has to be renewed (again ca 10,000) after expiration. If Doria were to decide to move to Britain, I'm dead sure she'd get just simply handed her permanent stay visa (forgot the exact name of the Brit version of the US green card) or even citizenship if so desired.

I do wonder whether we will be updated on Meg's citizenship status, but I'd bet anything that I'm right about what I wrote above.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 01:30:09 am
oh that Visa or citizenship is already in the beg meghan didn't have to through all that red tape like us  plebs .if people keep pushing it they will say ,and make it seem  she went about it the normal way,but really she was fast tracked . it happens look who she marrying


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Andrew Morton‏
The Yankees are coming! When #MeghanMarkle and #PrinceHarry have children they will automatically have US citizenship. Who knows we could have an American on the throne one day.

EH it wont happen a whole lot of pople will have to die.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 28, 2017, 01:33:46 am
^It’s what I didn’t hear or see that bothered me the most.  She was “on”.  No doubt about it.  But, because she’s so self-focused she forgot to say that she looks forward to serving the People.  I heard plenty about Her Causes which was off putting.  Secondly, she lacks any regal bearing.  It’s cute to be US casual and yap on and on but that’s not what the job description entails.  She has a lot to adjust to and learn.  “Refreshing” becomes tiresome quickly.

Even the best con artists trip themselves up with their arrogance.  She needs to remember “Fall in love, then fall in line.”  The BRF is not there to adjust their crnturies of tradition for one person.  And Ma Middleton is already on that one.

^Relinquishing one’s US citizenship is a very emotional trip.  Or so I’m told.  Or can she have dual citizenship and get an HRH?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 01:43:23 am
^ Excellent points, esp about "serving the people".

To the best of my knowledge, yes she can have dual citizenship and still be HRH whatever.
Technically, she could even decline Brit citizenship and still be recognized in Britain as HRH Duchess/ whatever, because her husband is the one with the title and she has the proxy title as his wife. She just couldn't have the title added to her US passport, as the US doesn't accept any such titles. A Brit passport however does list titles - if the bearer wishes so, it's not a must.

Also look at the house of Hannover, they still have the right to ducal titles in Britain and are (I think) the dukes of Brunswick (I think it's Brunswick?), even though none of them are eligible for Brit citizenship or have it at all. Also they are in line of succession to the Brit throne, in spite of a lack of a Brit passport.

Markles will take citizenship, I bet, and frankly if she were to ask me for advice, or anyone else for that matter, I'd always recommend to just take any citizenships one can and has a right to.

Giving up a citizenship can be extremely emotional and harrowing and I wish more countries were tolerant of dual citizenships. Speaking from experience  :bye: :sob:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 01:51:05 am
yeah she was on .well we will see how she will hit the ground running. she will go for the dual i would too


@danwootton
With this interview, I have no doubt the British public will have just fallen for Meghan Markle.
That was quite a performance.
They’re such a different kind couple to William and Kate.
Meghan is so refreshingly human.


Prince William and Kate Middleton - Full interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4RcE9G1MhM

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s first TV interview in full
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymovqj73k1Q


meghan talked about a julia is that someone on the spencer side?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: interrobanger on November 28, 2017, 02:17:34 am
I think she was referring to Julia Samuel, a close friend of Princess Diana's:

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a34949/princess-diana-friend-julia-samuel-interview/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 28, 2017, 02:22:19 am
^ Yes, the Hon Julia was one of Diana's closest friends. It's good that Diana's sons remain close to her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2017, 02:37:40 am
The exact things were said about Fergie and at the time she was a refreshing change for the Windsors. Just like Mehgan though, Fergie's to self absorbed and plays the victim card.
It's bad enough with the whole Brexit to have an immagrant getting a fast track to British citizenship.
Is it true that Harry was in tears at some point during the interview? I know people have arranged marriages or one of convenience, but this doesn't seem like any of this. Very bizzare body language and her performing. It still seems like a script from one of her bad romantic movies.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 02:43:13 am
no he wasnt in tears at any point. you didnt watch it yet ? watch its only 20mins ,and its not a long boring 20mins . unless the edit that part out and its on cutting room floor


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2017, 02:49:16 am
To be honest, I'd rather not waste my time looking at anther Windsor lying through his teeth about his tacky fiancé.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: carolmr on November 28, 2017, 03:39:23 am
FOX News this evening said that Meghan was raised Catholic but Wiki says she is Protestant.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on November 28, 2017, 07:22:53 am
I too have heard she was raised Catholic and that she is now protestant. It doesn't matter anymore as the old rule that being married to a Roman Catholic was enough to have someone removed from the line of succession was repealed as part of the recent Succession to the Crown Act. As long as the person isn't themselves Roman Catholic they are in the line of succession (and it does make sense that the person who is Supreme Governor of the Church of England is a communicant member of that church) so Meghan can be any religion or denomination she likes and it won't affect Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on November 28, 2017, 07:36:09 am
Her engagement outfit was certainly tacky. Hopefully she will get a makeover


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 07:43:25 am
Just a couple of extra things I have confirmed today: Meghan is definitely Protestant - her father belongs to the Episcopalian Church in the US. Her mother is also Protestant. She just happened to be educated at a Catholic school. #Meghan #PrinceHarry
By rebecca english


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Val on November 28, 2017, 09:00:15 am
It said somewhere that she converted to Judaism to marry her first husband but don't know how accurate that was.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sanka on November 28, 2017, 09:48:01 am
I think we are in for some interesting times ahead with the RF.

This has been said before but she has been working, her public speaking skills are better, has no hesitation with the charity work and she doesn't have to check whether she is saying the right thing....also no ring of doom.

Historically some marriages have been for specific reasons - relationships with countries etc. I don't think this is such a marriage but the fact that it appears to have support from various members of the Firm may indicate there is a reason why it has been rushed.

I will be interested to see where the wedding will be held. It would be nice to see it in St Georges in Windsor or go the registry and then off to St Georges (unlikely as it will be a big occasion for the UK). Windsor comes across as less likely to be a church for all the Hollywood types to be visible (also smaller and doesn't have to follow the others with large weddings).

Interesting comments about the Commonwealth as there will be a lot of travelling for causes etc. Maybe the plan is for them to be doing a lot of the duties overseas.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 28, 2017, 12:05:44 pm
I also read that Markle went to a Catholic school but she was a protestant. Then she married a jewish man. As far as I know, and according to some books on judaism I have in my posession, for conservative and orthodox judaism, one can't marry a jewish man without being jewish herself. It's simply not allowed, because according to their beliefs, children are born jewish if their mother is jewish and no jewish man can marry a woman who isn't jewish, because it would mean rejecting judaism. Other views on this matter like those of liberal judaism allow interfaith marriages to happen, however they'll try to make future children be raised as jewish. :dontknow:

I watched the interview, Meghan is shrewed, mature (one can absolutely tell she's more mature and experienced than Harry), she's articulated, she speaks reasonably well (if a bit casual) and showed none of the nervousness that Kate showed in the same circumstances but like many have said before me, this is a product of Meghan's study and work field. Perhaps she'll excell in working and supporting certain causes (though she will have to back down on making political affirmations, though I was raised with the belief that all a person's actions are political so I have a hard time believing somebody can be apolitical). However, how much of this is real and how much is manufactured? I'm no fan of Kate whatsoever, but there is some level of autenthicity, some genuine expressions about her, her insecurity, nervousness, shyness, even her sad/bored expressions are there for us to see...

Now excuse me being a bit shallow, I like the colour of the dress, but seriously sleeveless, tightless, in spring/summer shoes in London in late November? :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 12:11:25 pm
Goofing around when the camera stops rolling! Candid behind the scenes shots during Meghan and Harry's engagement interview give an insight into their relationship

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5123801/Shots-Meghan-Harrys-engagement-interview.html#ixzz4zjBHwTCW
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on November 28, 2017, 12:13:57 pm
If Doria were to decide to move to Britain, I'm dead sure she'd get just simply handed her permanent stay visa (forgot the exact name of the Brit version of the US green card) or even citizenship if so desired.

Doria will be used and paraded when it suits her to remind people that Meghan is half black and people should not dare to criticize her cause, ya know, it's racist to say that the emperor has no clothes.

^^ Her father won the lottery when she was little and with these money she was raised to better schools than the ghetto ones in her neighborhood.
^She looks like she's almost ready to pat him on the back and tell him: Good job, son, you said your lines and acted your behind the scenes to my liking.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on November 28, 2017, 12:23:38 pm
How Kate Fans Ignore: posters william - Travel to Chile - Change of University because of William

Meghan fans ignore :  betrayal to Cory Vitiello - blind date in a room - more lies

 :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on November 28, 2017, 12:39:23 pm
oh that Visa or citizenship is already in the beg meghan didn't have to through all that red tape like us  plebs .if people keep pushing it they will say ,and make it seem  she went about it the normal way,but really she was fast tracked . it happens look who she marrying


Quote
Andrew Morton‏
The Yankees are coming! When #MeghanMarkle and #PrinceHarry have children they will automatically have US citizenship. Who knows we could have an American on the throne one day.

EH it wont happen a whole lot of pople will have to die.

That dude is such a cloying ninny it's ridiculous. Just his usual stupid Twitter chatter - have to love these desperate characters so eager for American press attention. Shut up now, Andy - she doesn't channel his mother's spirit, that is just dumb.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 02:49:51 pm
Rebecca English
Ah, sweet: asked about her new step-daughter-in-law #MeghanMarkle today, the Duchess of Cornwall said: 'She's a star'. How nice!

More fantastic quotes from Camilla on #Meghan #Harry #engagement: It’s brilliant (news) and as I said, America’s loss is our gain.
‘We are all absolutely delighted.
‘As you can see, they are so happy.....

Camilla on #Harry #Meghan #engagement continued: 'Sometimes, you know, in a climate where we are surrounded by a lot of bad news, it’s a real joy to have some good news for once.'
Camilla was presented with an engagement card on a visit today by a young girl. She thanked her and assured her ‘I’ll make sure they get it.’ #PrinceHarry #MeganMarkle #engagement

The Duchess of Cambridge talks about her joy at welcoming #MeganMarkle into the family #PrinceHarry
https://twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/935476044819324928

5News‏
Camilla on Meghan Markle​ joining the British royal family.
https://twitter.com/5_News/status/935492166306189313



@Telegraph
After the microphones were turned off, the couple relaxed and joked around
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/935472302002720770


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 02:52:12 pm
I hope Camilla does not get too intrusive. Meghan should be polite but really watch her back--Camilla would have Junor turn on her. I remember the embarrassing photo ops of Camilla taking Kate out to lunch and her talking loudly in the restaurant giving Kate advice. Meghan should not make the same mistake. I don't think Camilla has changed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on November 28, 2017, 03:27:35 pm
Yes, a basic cable tv show low level supporting actress is soooo our “loss.”  :laugh:

Congrats, UK. First Kate and now this ninny and you’re stuck with them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 03:45:15 pm
@KensingtonRoyal
 
The marriage of Prince Harry and Ms. Meghan Markle will take place at St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle in May 2018.



@RE_DailyMail
#Harry and #Meghan will get married in St George's Chapel at Windsor in May. Exact date to be confirmed. Meghan will also apply to become a British citizen but retain her US citizenship while she does. They want their wedding to be 'fun and joyful' and involve the public.

The British Royal Family will pay for #Harry and #Meghan's wedding. Meghan will be getting baptised and confirmed before her wedding. Meghan will spend the next few months travelling around UK and getting to know its people - starting in Nottingham on Friday.

There will be an official engagement portrait taken of #Harry and #Meghan but no details have been finalised.
They are 'totally' in charge of their wedding arrangements, say aides.

Meghan doesn't have her own team yet, but will be supported by Harry's team for the time being.

Meghan's belonging are currently being shipped to the UK. She is going to be doing some travelling and visiting family and friends over the next few months to spend time with them before the wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 04:15:33 pm
America really did not "lose" Meghan. She will always have her American heritage.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 06:24:29 pm
You need to be rebaptised if you are already protestant? Does it matter what branch?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 06:26:47 pm
If someone converts from another religion to Catholicism they need to be baptized in the Catholic Church. I do think it is the other way around also


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 06:39:28 pm
But catholocism is not protestantism. And she is not catholic.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 06:40:57 pm
Just addressing the topic in general and the regulations.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 06:50:21 pm
But it's all Christianity. Silly to have a baptism. A confirmation, fine, but a baptism is too much. Though I don't know how it's handled when someone changes their church, ie Christian branch. But I know people who married in Christian ceremonies in churches, though belonged to different branches of Christianity (eg Protestant & Catholic), and the "other" church always recognized a previous baptism as fully legitimate (eg they married in a Protestant church because one of them as Protestant and wished to marry in their church, but the Catholic baptism of the other person was fully accepted and the person recognized as a Christian who had the right to marry in a Protestant church and have their kids baptized there). So in my opinion a baptism is a load of good old bs and they're doing it to sell her better to the British public, because she's a foreigner and the climate isn't the most accepting & welcoming right now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 28, 2017, 06:56:20 pm
^ They're cleaning her up.  My money's on her never being baptized at all previously and HM can't have that.  If she was an Episcopalian, as I am, baptism is required for full receiving of the Host but not mandatory for membership.  Kind of Catholic-lite.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 07:00:43 pm
But baptism is obligatory for catholics though.... I should go and read about episcopalians.

Anyway she does not need baptism for marriage if she is christian (even if you are not in catholicism) I suppose there are other requirements but not changing your religion. As the queen is the head of thr church maybe thry want to have her anglican to not have problems but imo it should not be necessary.

If it had been Kate then yes but it is not like meghan will be queen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 07:06:28 pm
^^ Didn't even consider that, but it's the only thing that'd make sense: she's never been baptized to begin with.
My cousin-in-law had to be baptized beforehand; and any church wedding I know of, the bride and groom had to provide a certificate that confirms they've been baptized. Certificate was always enough proof/ requirement.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on November 28, 2017, 07:13:12 pm
Probably she was never baptized nor confirmed, I know those are basic requirements to get married and to be someone's godparent in the Catholic church so perhaps it's the same for the anglican church and other protestant churches? Maybe they have to have a religious ceremony otherwise Harry wouldn't remain in line to the throne? And also, if they didn't marry through a religious ceremony perhaps the wedding would be considered morganatic or raise issues on the position in the succession their future children might have? :dontknow:

 I do know that like Alexandrine said, you have to be baptized to get married in a religious ceremony in the Christian faith, I'm not sure all of them require confirmation however. Could somebody please enlighten me? Excuse me for my lack of education on protestantism. :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 07:25:18 pm
My message was confusing sorry I believe you can marry catholic without being christian too but I believe you need to ask. The most important thing is wanting to bring up the kids catholic.

I do not think confirmation is needed my mother says that communion is also necessary XD



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 07:30:01 pm
^ Interesting!

^^ Some Christian branches need only a baptism, and voila you can marry and have your children baptized in said church/ branch. Even though confirmation and such exists, it is not for all seen as necessary or requirement. The baptism counts as the most important part and that's it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 07:54:22 pm
Hitting the gym already! Harry is seen leaving a workout in Chelsea as wedding date is announced

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5125629/Prince-Harry-seen-leaving-workout-Chelsea.html#ixzz4zl3rPDXA
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 28, 2017, 07:58:51 pm
^Gawd.  Are we gonna see this stuff every single day?  Guess so.

^^That's correct and I was confusing as well.  Baptism is mandatory for marriage in the Episcopal church.  And I would guess for all Christian faiths.  Communion is a must for the Catholics.  To marry a Catholic is a huge deal and there are many hoops to go through before you can marry at the main altar.  Divorced people cannot.  At least, last time I checked.  

Just went to a Catholic wedding not long ago and because the bride had a child out of wedlock, no main altar for them!  The chapel sufficed.

I'm still going with Sparkles never being baptized.  They seem rather New Age-y to me and experimental in religion.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 08:06:47 pm
Victoria Arbiter
The Royal Windsor Horse Show is May 9-13 next year and the Queen’s not missing that so I’m guessing May 18th or better yet the 25th for a right royal wedding. #HarryandMeghan


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 08:37:40 pm


http://www.laineygossip.com/princess-kates-formal-stiff-response-to-prince-harry-meghan-markles-engagement/48540


I mentioned yesterday that when the UK media were scrambling around, playing the guessing game of when Prince Charles would announce Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s engagement, after getting it wrong last Thursday and last Friday, they were, on the weekend, thinking it might be today, Tuesday, because of something to do with Theresa May’s schedule. As if the royals give a sh-t about the PM’s schedule. They would, however, give a sh-t about Princess Kate’s schedule. And Kate was out today visiting The Foundling Museum in London. If Harry had made his announcement today, it would have overshadowed her visit.

Being that this was Kate’s first public appearance since Harry and Meghan’s big news though, a reaction was expected and a reaction was arranged. Before you watch the video below, remember that royals aren’t seized upon spontaneously by the press like a celebrity at LAX. Ahead of her arrival, the press would have been told that they could ask her a question about the engagement. And she would have been briefed about being asked a question and having a reaction ready. Here it is:

Can I just say that I F-CKING LOVE this right now? As in the last two days of this? All the royal analysis and speculation and amazingness? I love it so f-cking much. And now we get this. Kate’s very formal, very royal response to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s happy news. Formal and royal also = STIFF. So she’s certainly holding up the family’s comportment standard. We do not speak in exclamation points. We do not squeal. We are measured and consistent, because that is the institution.

OK, fine. But some of them do the measured and consistent thing with a lot more personality. And still, to be fair to Kate, we always knew that this was a role she had to grow in to. It was one that she wanted, no doubt, but it’s not her total comfort zone. Also, we just saw Meghan kill it yesterday in her joint interview with Harry on the BBC – so natural, so relaxed – and by comparison, Kate’s never had that kind of ease. Go back, if you have time, and watch Will and Kate’s first joint interview after their engagement. Poor thing, she was focusing so hard on getting the accent right it almost muted her excitement about the situation.

What’s interesting to me though is that she would have had time in the car at least to prepare her answer. And her answer was pretty much the same as the statement she and William released yesterday. She also didn’t refer to Harry and Meghan by name. I’m not the expert on royal words but … are we not allowed to refer to people by name? We’re so happy for Harry. And it’s lovely to see him so happy with Meghan. Maybe that’s too familiar. Maybe we’re not supposed to sound so familiar so soon. But, seriously, she could have been talking about two remote acquaintances and not her brother-in-law and future sister-in-law. I wonder if that’s what will be expected of Meghan when she gets more immersed in the royal life. To communicate always with polite distance and reserve.  Is it different though for Kate because she’s the one married to the future king? Does Meghan have less restrictions because Harry’s now the spare’s spare’s spare’s spare’s spare? Let me know your thoughts.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on November 28, 2017, 08:39:44 pm
She looks like the cat that got the cream. https://e3.365dm.com/17/11/750x563/skynews-prince-harry-meghan-markle_4167941.jpg?20171127143515


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 08:52:25 pm
'We knew there was something there that was so solid, so powerful - we were willing to have a go': Unseen video reveals Harry and Meghan talking about the moment they knew it was right

    Couple are expected to reveal date of their wedding and the venue in new announcement expected today
    Harry popped question on one knee earlier this month while they were cooking roast chicken at his cottage
    He gave her a ring he designed himself from diamonds belonging to his mother and another from Botswana
    Couple will have a church wedding in spring 2018 – but will probably avoid early April when royal baby is due
    Harry said his mother Princess Diana and his bride-to-be would have been 'thick as thieves' and 'best friends'
    Meghan could become a princess or be given title Duchess of Sussex when she marries fifth in line to throne
    They will live in Nottingham Cottage in Kensington Palace next door to William, Kate, George and Charlotte
    Meghan has quit the hit show Suits and is shipping all her belongings to Britain including her two dogs


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5123801/Shots-Meghan-Harrys-engagement-interview.html


Meghan's heartbreak as she is forced to leave one of her dogs in Canada 'because he is too old to fly the UK'

    Kensington Palace confirms Meghan Markle's dog Bogart will not come to UK
    Spokesman said the labrador-shepherd cross was 'living with friends' of actress
    But her beagle Guy has travelled to the UK and will live with the happy couple
    Miss Markle is well known for showing her love of the pets on Instagram


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5125481/Meghans-heartbreak-forced-leave-dog-behind.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: One of the Peasants on November 28, 2017, 09:02:14 pm
All I can say, through the laughter, is my house has nearly burned down in the last 48 hours from all the hot popcorn machines going non-stop, with lots of butter.  I hope Chuckwagon is happy, the marriages of his two idiot sons are a reflection of his lack of values.  I can't wait to see the future Duchess on her first engagement doing the typical Hollywood pose time after time.  Nothing classy about this generation of Wales. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 09:08:14 pm
We are forgetting Sophie btw. She is going down again in the line and she is not going to be even remembered right now after Kate and Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 28, 2017, 09:11:44 pm
Sophie never had the remotest chance of being Queen Consort much less her husband being anywhere near the top of the line of succession


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2017, 09:17:09 pm
But she was the first after the queen when Charles was single and his kids were not married. Things have changed since then but I'm not even sure that she has a place in the second balcony at the cenotaph anymore. For us it's just a balcony but it means so much more to her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 09:26:30 pm
^ Yeah, Sophie has been seriously demoted since she married in. Must be quite a shocker for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2017, 09:56:23 pm
Bets on wedding day ?

May 26- 28

28 Memorial Day US Holiday


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 28, 2017, 10:54:16 pm
EXCLUSIVE PHOTO: From a Royal family fan to a Princess: Meghan Markle playfully poses like any other tourist outside Buckingham Palace during summer tour of Europe aged 15

    Miss Markle snapped outside Buckingham Palace as a tourist, 21 years before engagement to Prince Harry
    Remarkable image of the actress, from Los Angeles, was taken during a European summer trip back in 1996
    Harry, 33, and Miss Markle, 36, announced engagement on Monday and will marry in May at Windsor Castle


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5126431/To-Palace-born.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: One of the Peasants on November 28, 2017, 10:57:17 pm
^^
I hope so, if only they knew (which I suspect they already do) what Americans do on that holiday, it should be somber for veterans but it is generally barbeque city and the opening day of summer.  No one is going to care, much. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on November 29, 2017, 06:54:24 am
We are forgetting Sophie btw. She is going down again in the line and she is not going to be even remembered right now after Kate and Meghan.
She works harder  and contribute more though

On another note, an interesting comment from acfriebdvbytbhes MM
One person says she saw it coming and has warned the prince to be cautious.

'I'm not shocked at all,' said Miss Markle's childhood best friend Ninaki Priddy. 'It's like she has been planning this all her life.

'She gets exactly what she wants and Harry has fallen for her play. She was always fascinated by the Royal Family. She wants to be Princess Diana 2.0. She will play her role ably, but my advice to him is to tread cautiously.'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5126431/Meghan-Markle-Buckingham-Palace-aged-15.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 29, 2017, 02:21:37 pm
Oh please, she sounds like a bitter person. It's not like Meghan enrolled at St. Andrew's to get acquainted with a Prince. She was a continent away much of the time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on November 29, 2017, 03:01:13 pm
We are forgetting Sophie btw. She is going down again in the line and she is not going to be even remembered right now after Kate and Meghan.  . . . .

But she was the first after the queen when Charles was single and his kids were not married. Things have changed since then but I'm not even sure that she has a place in the second balcony at the cenotaph anymore. For us it's just a balcony but it means so much more to her.

Yes, isn't it delicious, Alexandrine?   What a wake up call for the delusional Sophie!  She thought she was going to be the Second Lady in the Land forever!   Now we know why the DM article praising Sophie appeared a few days ago . . . she knew Harry's and Meggles' engagement announcement was imminent and she wanted to remind people of her Serene Self.    The countdown to Sophie copying Meggles starts now. . . .

 :stars:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 29, 2017, 08:49:48 pm
Unlike William, who only told his family and staff on the day of the announcement, Harry let a small group of advisers into the secret.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/935756311995846656

Older Brits rain on everyone else's parade by saying there shouldn't be a bank holiday for the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/surveys/results#/survey/99efa508-d424-11e7-96ad-7117bf051192/question/b8239474-d424-11e7-b5bc-458f0b866b90/age
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/935564158002712581

A YouGov poll for The Times today finds 39% of Britons pleased by Harry and Meghan's engagement, 4% disappointed, and 52% indifferent.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/935749117489418240

In the same YouGov poll, 49% have a positive view of Meghan, 14% negative, and 37% don't know.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/935749688317313024

It's not clear yet if Meghan will ultimately give up her US citizenship. The process of acquiring UK citizenship can take several years.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/935532881656602624
Years for normal people.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on November 30, 2017, 12:06:22 am
Indifferent means not even on the radar. Still, have to take these polls with a grain of salt.  :June:

Why should there be a bank holiday? To watch an American divorcee get married?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 30, 2017, 01:19:05 am
Three of four of the Queen's children are divorced. It is not the age of Mrs Simpson anymore. I think people will eagerly appreciate a bank holiday. ANd not tsk tsk over the bride being a divorcee. I think people would enjoy the day off and sleep in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 01:43:54 am
That's what people really want is that bank holiday ,but they already said they won't make the day a bank holiday they can plan it to fall  May 7 which is London holiday or  28 if they set the date to  28  US and London  have a holiday that falls on  Monday.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 30, 2017, 01:52:33 am
^Isn't the Windsor Horse Show (which the Queen attends) on a weekend in May. I'm going for later in the month with a Bank Holiday Monday simply because the weather will be better towards June.

The interviewer who conducted the engagement interview, Mishal Husain, spoke to Hello. She said she could see that the couple were 'obviously in love' and committed.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2017112944388/mishal-husain-talks-prince-harry-meghan-markle/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on November 30, 2017, 02:43:14 am
Well Hello! magazine ought to know.  :cookie:  ;)



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 03:00:04 am
 :tehe:

Of course Hello mag wouldn't dare print lies! perish the thought! :snob:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Vesper on November 30, 2017, 03:07:04 am
Meghan has been/is feeding stories to all the publications all over England, US and Canada. They have an  “impeccable source”. That’s a quote from Emily Andrews by the way.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 03:12:59 am
Yeah kinda figured that after reading a few topics in here... 8)

Then again a starlet who doesn't toot her horn in the press from time to time is as rare as snow in hell!  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Vesper on November 30, 2017, 03:28:09 am
Ain’t that the truth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 10:12:33 am
STEPHEN GLOVER: My heart cheers the new royal fairy tale. My head's full of foreboding...

Even the flintiest heart will have been warmed by the sight of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle so palpably in love. He is a fine young man, and she is an attractive, clever and vivacious young woman.

There are so many obvious pluses — the most basic of which is that this will be a glamorous Anglo-American wedding at a time when some in Britain feel down in the dumps over Brexit, and a bit unloved by the world.

The Royal Family, after all, is one of our most successful exports, and millions of Americans will think they are in some way buying into this peculiarly British institution.

Moreover, Meghan’s own ‘back story’ as the child of an African-American mother and white father who was brought up in pinched circumstances may serve to soften the still somewhat fusty and undoubtedly privileged image of the Royal Family.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5130651/STEPHEN-GLOVER-heart-cheers-new-royal-fairy-tale.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 12:29:15 pm
Oh dear, sugar overdose!  :wopedo:
Where is my bucket,?! :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 03:17:22 pm
^ and ^^ That's the first well-crafted and insightful article I've read about the real concerns of this match.  It's a calm, fireside appraisal that, for me, is honest, thoughtful and accurate.  Based on comments, I'm not alone.  It's one of the rare times the DM puts down the sparkly pen of dissention and gets to the root of the thing.   :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 03:23:46 pm
Meghan Markle is Madonna and Prince Harry is naked in this cheeky mobile graffiti

Pegasus is so excited about the engagement of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle that he sprayed the lovebirds on the back of a black van and then drove it across central London.

The artist, who's based in London but was born in the U.S., pictured Markle and Harry during their stag and hen dos (bachelor and bachelorette parties), with the word "party" in big pink letters.

The bride-to-be is dressed in a Madonna outfit while Harry is naked, holding a crown in front of his intimate parts. 

"I wanted to give her a fun hen do outfit and 'Like a Virgin' dress with Boy Toy accessories felt like the right way to go," Pegasus told Mashable.

http://mashable.com/2017/11/30/prince-harry-meghan-markle-madonna-street-art-london/#A.pFoWu5asqj


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 30, 2017, 03:26:58 pm
Enough of the saccharine Harry and Meghan show already! If they want my blessing they need to come off the privileged Royal Love Island and do some good in the real Britain

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5132675/Janet-Street-Porter-Harry-Meghan-show.html


Prince Harry asked Meghan's mother for her daughter's hand in marriage 'when they met at the Invictus Games in September'

    Meghan Markle's mother, Doria Ragland, met Harry in Toronto in September
    He asked Ragland for Miss Markle's hand in marriage at the Invictus Games
    Her father, Thomas Markle will be attending the Windsor Castle ceremony
    Harry has not met his future father-in-law and could go to Mexico to see him
    Meghan's family have admitted they'll come to the UK even if not invited 


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5130257/Harry-asked-Meghans-mother-marriage-September.html



Newly engaged Meghan Markle is the picture of elegance as she poses on the cover of ELLE France - but have her freckles been airbrushed?

    Meghan Markle, 36, is the star of ELLE France's December 2017 issue
    Prince Harry's fiance looks ethereal as she lends her good looks to the cover
    Her freckles appear much less prominent than usual
    Harry and Meghan announced their engagement on Monday morning


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5132769/Meghan-Markle-picture-elegance-ELLE-France.html

The cover
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/11/30/13/46D7481500000578-5132769-image-a-1_1512049801807.jpg



Blast from the past

Revealed: How Meghan Markle's producer ex-husband got over their break-up with the help of Baywatch actress Charlotte McKinney and has found new love with a dietitian

    Meghan was 23 years old when she met her ex-husband Trevor Engelson in 2004, they dated for six years before getting engaged in 2010
    Their marriage did not last, however, and their divorce was finalized in August 2013, two years after the married, citing 'irreconcilable differences'
    About a year after his divorce from Meghan, Trevor dated Baywatch star Charlotte McKinney
    Once things fizzled out for Trevor and McKinney he found new love with a dietitian whom he has dated for about a year
    Trevor was seen arriving at his Los Angeles office on the day of his ex-wife's engagement to Prince Harry on Monday
    The 41-year-old Hollywood producer waved briefly as he made his way into Underground Films, but refused to comment on Meghan's engagement


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5131011/Meghan-Markles-ex-husband-Trevor-Engelson-dating-dietitian.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2017, 03:48:03 pm
^ Wow! This really is overkill. Shouldn't she at least wait until she is married  (not that I believe it will happen and a big IF it does it won't last JMO) to PH before going on this Princess media blitz? It would be tacky if she's presenting/marketing herself as a member of the RF already. I suppose girlfriend is thinking to line her pockets in the long run by making all of the connections she can just in case it all goes south. She must be in marketing heaven. Have they signed a exclusive of some sort with Hello! or People magazine yet? :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 04:19:38 pm
Ok elle either gave her a thick layer of make up or they went heavy on the airbrush wowzers! :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on November 30, 2017, 04:20:09 pm
^^ tacky and totally keeping in character.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 30, 2017, 04:27:43 pm
Gotta get those magazine covers and all that merching in before the doors to the guilded cage get closed. She is in for a rude awakening.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 30, 2017, 04:30:02 pm
The Elle photos are from a 2015 photoshoot. Elle magazine has obviously decided to reprint them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 04:32:20 pm
The Meghan effect strikes again! Surgeon reveals spike in number of women requesting NOSE JOBS to look more like Prince Harry's new fiancée

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Plastic surgeon Stephen T. Greenberg revealed that he has seen a spike in clients asking for Meghan's nose in the past six months, as well as in the days following her engagement announcement to Prince Harry.

In fact, he says that the Suits star has even overtaken the likes of Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner when it comes to celebrity-inspired plastic surgery requests.
Dr Greenberg, who is based in New York, believes that the appeal of a nose like Meghan's is its straight profile and defined tip, as well as the fact it isn't quite perfect.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5129347/Meghan-leads-spike-women-requesting-NOSE-JOBS.html
Basically the plastic surgeon is confirming that she has had plastic surgery on her nose. Meghan 'a dumped in with the Kardashians and called a celebrity.

Since monthly magazines have a few months of lead time, she's been talking about marriage for a while because the headline mentions about a wedding we've all been waiting for. She look awful on the cover as the picture's so overly photoshopped. It'll be interesting as to what she said in the interview as I don't think she'd be in the cover without a fresh interview.

It seems each day articles come out to debunk the lies that she's put out over the year.

I've read again that her legal name is still that of her ex husband, so technically she's not engaged to Harry. She'll need to go to get that sorted out in America along with getting her visa. So the name change and getting a visa will take time and expense and she isn't getting any special treatment from the royal family not with people getting ticked of with the Brexit situation. At the end of the day, the British people are tired of being treated like 2nd class citizen who watch as immigrants demanding special treatment to live off the state and if anyone objects they're called racist and all sorts of other nonsense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 04:33:55 pm
^Yuck.  Just, yuck.

Elle owns the photos so they have a right to do with them as they see fit.  Good way to use already paid for merch and test the waters.

Very unflattering cover imo.  She looks hard and mask-like.  Appropriate!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 30, 2017, 04:47:29 pm
^^ If you are divorced (and Meghan obtained a legal divorce) then she is able to get married again and become engaged. Divorced women often don't revert back to their maiden names but keep the surname of their former husband until they marry again. It happens all the time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2017, 04:48:46 pm
^^^ Do they want the new nose or the old nose? I refuse to read the article. lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 30, 2017, 04:48:57 pm
The Meghan effect strikes again! Surgeon reveals spike in number of women requesting NOSE JOBS to look more like Prince Harry's new fiancée

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Plastic surgeon Stephen T. Greenberg revealed that he has seen a spike in clients asking for Meghan's nose in the past six months, as well as in the days following her engagement announcement to Prince Harry.

In fact, he says that the Suits star has even overtaken the likes of Kim Kardashian and Kylie Jenner when it comes to celebrity-inspired plastic surgery requests.
Dr Greenberg, who is based in New York, believes that the appeal of a nose like Meghan's is its straight profile and defined tip, as well as the fact it isn't quite perfect.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5129347/Meghan-leads-spike-women-requesting-NOSE-JOBS.html
Basically the plastic surgeon is confirming that she has had plastic surgery on her nose. Meghan 'a dumped in with the Kardashians and called a celebrity.

Since monthly magazines have a few months of lead time, she's been talking about marriage for a while because the headline mentions about a wedding we've all been waiting for. She look awful on the cover as the picture's so overly photoshopped. It'll be interesting as to what she said in the interview as I don't think she'd be in the cover without a fresh interview.

It seems each day articles come out to debunk the lies that she's put out over the year.

I've read again that her legal name is still that of her ex husband, so technically she's not engaged to Harry. She'll need to go to get that sorted out in America along with getting her visa. So the name change and getting a visa will take time and expense and she isn't getting any special treatment from the royal family not with people getting ticked of with the Brexit situation. At the end of the day, the British people are tired of being treated like 2nd class citizen who watch as immigrants demanding special treatment to live off the state and if anyone objects they're called racist and all sorts of other nonsense.

She may well have done the name changing already. I know someone who divorced after a 10 year marriage and she is now going by her maiden name. She applied for change of name. It is done all the time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 04:56:42 pm
There's a huge difference between a stage name and a legal name.  In the US, only a judge can change your name usually requested as part of the divorce decree.  With our immigration and passport laws being as strict as they are, she would not be able to use Markle for anything official unless she legally changed it and it's a hassle. 

She may have.  I don't know that.  Is it in her divorce decree?

When I got married it became a problem because I had assumed my step father's name all my life but it was not my legal name.  Took months to straighten it out and finally I had to use my baptism certificate to get our license to marry in the church. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 30, 2017, 05:03:07 pm
I know someone who was divorced very recently and she is using her maiden name and this after a very long marriage! There are some legal steps to take for this to happen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 05:05:07 pm
The college years before the crown! Meghan Markle's sorority sisters share photo of the fresh-faced student at the age of 19

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5132311/Meghan-Markles-sorority-share-photos-student.html#ixzz4zw4Cqyi5
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on November 30, 2017, 05:10:22 pm
The name which Meghan Markle was born with is Rachel Meghan Markle. Her stage name is the same as her birth name.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 05:17:19 pm
^Then she should, legally, use Rachel.  Meghan Markle is her stage name.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 05:30:28 pm
Meghan Markle may reveal royal secrets to foreign power by paying taxes to the US

MEGHAN Markle will carry on paying taxes to the United States after marrying Prince Harry, opening up the possibility of a foreign power scrutinising the Royal Family’s secretive finances.

The American actress, whose application to become a British citizen is expected to take years unless she is given special treatment, has vowed to comply with the tax laws of Britain, the US and Canada, where she has lived for the past seven years while working for a US TV company.

As a US citizen she will have to continue paying taxes to her home country.

Financial experts have warned that means the US Internal Revenue Service may get access to information about royal trust funds and other details that could prove embarrassing if they ever leaked.

Royal finances expert David McClure, author of the book Royal Legacy, said: “What could possibly go wrong with an American divorcee marrying an heir to the British throne?  
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/886021/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-engagement-latest-news-US-taxes-scrutinise-UK-royals


Why Meghan Markle WILL spend Christmas with Queen even though Kate didn’t while engaged


Meghan is likely to take a seat at the table for traditional festivities with the Royal Family because her family live across the pond in the United States, according to royal expert Richard Fitzwilliams.

The unprecedented move will raise eyebrows as Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge, was not invited to join Prince William for the three-day celebrations in 2010 despite announcing their engagement a month before.

Mr Fitzwilliams told Express.co.uk: “It is expected Meghan will join Harry and the rest of the Royal Family for Christmas on the Queen's estate in Sandringham in Norfolk this year.

“In 2010 Kate was not invited to do so after her engagement to William nor was Mike Tindall after his to the Princess Royal's daughter Zara Phillips and only spouses and close family are usually invited.

“However Harry and Meghan will be living together at Nottingham Cottage at Kensington Palace and her family are in the United States.

“The monarchy relies heavily on precedent and tradition but it also makes its own.”

Mr Fitzwilliams said it is now “pivotal” the US actress is integrated into the family before she marries her prince at Windsor Castle in May.

He said Kate and other members of the monarchy would help her to get into the swing of royal life.

Mr Fitzwilliams added: “Now they are engaged and she will shortly be a senior member of the royal family it is pivotal that she feels an integral part of it as soon as possible.

“Kate and the younger members will help her through the strict protocol of the royal festive celebrations which take place over three days and which can be daunting.”

The royal commentator also predicted the Queen would “undoubtedly” refer to her grandson’s engagement to the US actress during her Christmas broadcast.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/886338/Meghan-Markle-prince-harry-engaged-Queen-christmas-Sandringham-Estate-Kate-middleton


Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to start family in future - what will children look like?

PRINCE Harry and Meghan Markle have officially announced their engagement and revealed their plans to start a family - but what will their children look like?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/885313/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-engaged-royal-wedding-children-family-portrait-first-picture


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2017, 05:32:49 pm
^ Is it just me or does this all sound so overthetop and staged like someone is trying much too hard to push her into acceptance? They need to dial it down a tad...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 05:44:20 pm
it was the same with william and kate .it's going to be a  long ride until may then after that it will be an even longer ride cause you will first tour then baby


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 05:48:30 pm
Yooper, there's talk in the article in today's DM regarding her ex husband that she didn't legally change her name. She's still legally Rachel Meghan Engelson. indeed a stage name's quite different to your legal name. Now she has to deal with the Trump administration to sort out her name and visa.  :laugh: This is why she's stupid with her big mouth stating that she dislikes Trump.
The daily articles are letting people unleash in the comments. The affair with the hockey player is making the rounds again as well as her living with Corey whilst allegedly being with Harry in Botswana. The interview exposed the lies that she's told but more importantly, released Harry and the royal family from being racist as she said herself that Harry never had a problem with her mixed heritage and neither does the royal family hence the over the top reaction and press that we've seen from the family members and the press.
^chick has to go to her home country to get her name and visa sorted out. She can't swan around in the U.K. on tour if she expects to stay and get married. Best she leave now instead of make a twit of herself tomorrow during the 3 engagements set up for her and Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2017, 05:50:51 pm
^^ Well, then I'm boycotting the Sparkle articles and maybe if I close my eyes and make a wish they'll all go away. I have my opinions on this chick and let's just say she and her "great luck at being a HH" don't come across to me as kosher. Nope. Not one bit.  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on November 30, 2017, 06:10:22 pm
Yooper, there's talk in the article in today's DM regarding her ex husband that she didn't legally change her name. She's still legally Rachel Meghan Engelson. indeed a stage name's quite different to your legal name. Now she has to deal with the Trump administration to sort out her name and visa.  :laugh: This is why she's stupid with her big mouth stating that she dislikes Trump.
The daily articles are letting people unleash in the comments. The affair with the hockey player is making the rounds again as well as her living with Corey whilst allegedly being with Harry in Botswana. The interview exposed the lies that she's told but more importantly, released Harry and the royal family from being racist as she said herself that Harry never had a problem with her mixed heritage and neither does the royal family hence the over the top reaction and press that we've seen from the family members and the press.
^chick has to go to her home country to get her name and visa sorted out. She can't swan around in the U.K. on tour if she expects to stay and get married. Best she leave now instead of make a twit of herself tomorrow during the 3 engagements set up for her and Harry.

I don't think MEghan is exactly high on Trump's priority list. I don't think he cares what name she uses.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on November 30, 2017, 06:25:18 pm
^ Maybe on Melania's. She did publish her White house pics on the day of the engagement and made it to first page instead of the 80+ articles on Meghan on that day.
^^^Can you imagine DM's headline: Why did you put your legal name HRH Prince Henry of Whale and not Rachel Meghan Engelson's? Ashamed to admit on KP paper that she's still with the ex's last name?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 06:36:41 pm
I wonder if we'll have the same issue with this one as with the whole Kate/Catherine thing back then?
Press calling her 'Princess Kate'al the time and palace reply 'nonono, its duchess Catherine!' :king:

Press: 'mylady Meg' palace: nonono its 'Madam Meghane'  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 06:42:19 pm
yes it will the whole princess kate thing. it will be princess meghan


Britain's commemorate china industry has moved quickly to create souvenirs of the royal engagement. Here's one from Emma Bridgewater.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPtQJB3X4AAD3bb.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 07:14:55 pm
The Trump administration couldn’t give a hoot less.  The IRS is another matter entirely.  The BRF will have to have an expert on US tax laws which is another expense.  Her business(es), future percentage income from advertising, and Suits if it syndicates will be highly scrutinized.  Plus, the tax filer (accounting firm who signs and submits in your behalf) has to be licensed and sanctioned only in the US or there is a conflict of interest problem.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 07:16:22 pm
^^Thats the best china deco they could come up with in 3 days? Oh boy... :o

Gosh i just rememberd those awful mugs from china when W&K married! They had the wrong picture on them  :laugh:
If I'm not mistaken yooper got one of those back then for a laugh and collectioners item!  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 07:17:11 pm
It's about using the legal name on announcements and documents that is the key, not using a stage name that's not legally recognized. I'm sure her passport's in her legal name and all other documents such a visas, tax records and such have to match. So she'll still have to deal with the Trump administration to get a visa and might have a issue since she has bad mouthed him after he got elected president. I'm sure she's on a list somewhere and won't be invited to anything White House events. Remember her and her cohorts put out that article saying that Harry hates Trump.
The college years article has a picture with her old nose and talk about race, but there wasn't any date of when she graduated. The article's are dumb, but remember that each one drops information that dispels her lies.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 07:22:15 pm
^^Yep, I did!  Still have the Harry and Kate wedding mug.   :tehe:  These new ones are fugly.

^It’s true.  There will be no engraved invites from the current White House for her.  Not that she cares (although she should now) but the administration will not.  She’s been far too vocal and supportive of the now disgraced Clintons. Whatever her real name is, it’s on her Passport.  The US insists.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on November 30, 2017, 07:39:15 pm
Disgraced Clintons?  Think the current occupants are the disgraces. ☺


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on November 30, 2017, 07:39:54 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5132675/Janet-Street-Porter-Harry-Meghan-show.html
Totally agree with this article.
If they, unlike Wimpo and Waity, want to do something useful with their lives they need to get going-starting tomorrow.
Not only awareness but also money needs to be raised:a lot.
That's where Meghan's Hollywood expertise comes in handy.
I'm thinking major charity fundraisers, events etc.
Also the Prince's trust comes to mind, Chuck wanted Wimpo to take over but he refused. It's a solid charity bringing in a lot of revenue but it can be way more if H&M spice things up a bit.
Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 30, 2017, 08:02:36 pm
Totally agree with miss janet porter there! :sigh:

And I hope Harry has the gonads to tackel those topics like sextraffiking (the whole andrew/epstein thing came way to close for my taste) and first world poverty.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on November 30, 2017, 08:05:02 pm
My information is that both William and Harry have refused to take over the Prince's Trust as they aren't interested in the sort of good work it does. They want to take on 'causes' for a relatively short period of time - 3 - 5 years - and then move onto a new cause/s through their own Foundation.

Why would the Americans, and the President at that, be involved in a visa application for someone to enter the UK? I have applied for visas to a number of countries and have only ever had to deal with the country I was visiting, other then sending them my passport. As long as I have had a valid passport there has been no involvement by the Australian government in granting me a visa to enter another country (leaving or entering Australia yes but entering another country having legally left Australia is nothing to do with them).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 08:18:51 pm
^^That would be grat if they got more involved.  I unfortunately foresee the same old thing with a burst of PR-driven enthusiasm that is all too short-lived.

^Passports and visas have nothing to do with the Prez or Executive Office.  The State Department does and it does pay attention to incoming.  But, it has no interest in a US citizen’s visa to another country.  That’s where the IRS kicks in.  PREs (residency and tax bracket status) matter to them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 09:59:53 pm
Will Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Sign a Prenup?
First comes love, then comes … a prenup? Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are set to be wed next spring and despite his royal worth, it’s unlikely there will be a prenuptial agreement in place, U.K.-based family law attorney Julian Hawkhead told Us Weekly.
No I don’t think they will,” Hawkhead told Us. “If there was any drive to do so it would have come from the senior members of the royal family. There has been absolutely no such direction to do this and in fact, I’m reminded of when Prince William and Kate Middleton were engaged to be married, the Palace made it quite clear that they had no expectation that there should be any such prenuptial arrangement made. The precedent has therefore been set by Harry’s father and brother, neither having entered in prenuptial agreements before they married.”

Hawkhead further explained that prenups are not as common in England as they are in the United States: “They do not have the same weight as the Hollywood prenups and divorces you may read about all the time nor will they include penalty clauses for bad behavior. The English courts rarely consider the behavior of the parties as relevant when dividing up assets.”
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/will-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-sign-a-prenup/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 10:04:27 pm
^^thanks Yooper. I was thinking along the lines of the president changing the rules and making it harder with more restrictions on getting a visa to move to another country like he's done with the travel ban from certain countries. He's getting tough on visas period.  Funny now he's in a fight with the British prime minister and his state visit seems to be in jeopardy.  :cookie:
It seems like such a massive headache; pre-nup, immagration issues and likely tax ones too, not to mention her legal name/stage name debate; all this for a woman who'll not be of any benefit to the U.K. and the Commonwealth at all, and least of all the royal family who look to be on their last legs as the queen's demise draws near with every passing year.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 10:15:21 pm
^No.  it’s only incoming immigration that is an issue right now in the US admin/public debate.  Leave if you want.  But, she will have to be very cautious with the much more powerful folks at the IRS.  They can, literally, ruin your life and the Treasury Dept holds the cards everywhere.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 10:44:27 pm
The one before The One? American socialite and rumoured ex of Prince Harry Juliette Labelle is snapped out and about in LA
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And Juliette Labelle, 23, smiled but remained silent on news of the royal engagement when she was spotted out and about in LA on Wednesday, in the week that news of Harry's impending marriage broke. 

The fashion PR declined to comment when she was asked if she approved of the match.
A source told The Sun at the time: 'The Prince enjoyed hanging out with Juliette. She's very much his type and they hooked up.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5131857/Prince-Harry-ex-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-steps-out.html
This tacky girl called the media to get her few minutes of attention. The photo agency, Shady Backgrid, is a celebrity news agency. She and other Harry chaser have no shame for being an alleged hookup of his as long as it gets them a few moments of press clippings. Sad.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2017, 10:48:26 pm
Cressida looks better all the time.  Chelsy, too!  Oy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2017, 11:14:17 pm
PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE ‘STILL ENGAGED’ REVEALS DAILY MAIL
Two days on from the official announcement, the Daily Mail has officially confirmed that Prince Harry and American actress Meghan Markle are still engaged and still planning to get married in May. The front page confirmed that the 36-year-old actress had failed to storm out of Kensington Palace at 3am in tears shunning reporters and shielding her eyes from the paparazzi.

The shocking exclusive follows hot on the heels of yesterday’s front page exclusive that the couple were said to be greatly looking forward to the honeymoon due to take place somewhere or other shortly afterwards. The Mail apparently beat both The Telegraph and The Daily Express to this latest revelation. ‘We too had received a tip-off that the wedding was still on’, admitted Thaddeus Gormley, the Telegraph’s Royal Correspondent. ‘However we were still desperately trying to confirm the story with our sources as we went to press.’

‘Frankly, in the search for royal exclusives, we have been utterly trounced by the Mail,’ added a dejected-looking Mr Gormley.  ‘They beat us to it with news that the engagement ring is worth £50,000 or possibly £199,475. They were first with news that the bride-to-be is ‘a bit modern’ by royal standards. And they left us all in the starting blocks with the revelation that Diana, Princess of Wales would probably have really liked Ms Markle. Now with this morning’s exclusive… it’s as good as game over for the other royal correspondents on the block.’

The Mail is remaining tight-lipped about any forthcoming revelations. However, rumours are circulating within Fleet Street that a series of no photographs have been leaked to the paper. These non-existent pictures are said not to show Ms Markle in compromising positions with high ranking Saudi officials, suggesting that the wedding is unlikely be cancelled in a blaze of negative publicity for the Palace

‘If that one’s true, they’ll pull off the scoop of the decade, speculated Alan Frankl, Times correspondent for royals lower than fourth and higher than sixtieth in line for the throne. ‘Let’s hope for their sakes their sources are right about this one!’
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2017/11/29/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-still-engaged-reveals-daily-mail/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2017, 11:15:22 pm
PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE ‘STILL ENGAGED’ REVEALS DAILY MAIL
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2017/11/29/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-still-engaged-reveals-daily-mail/

Prince Harry and Meghan ‘have NOT set a date for the royal wedding’ despite reports saying it’s on for May 26
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Reports that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's wedding will take place on May 26 have been rubbished - with the happy couple yet to set a date themselves.
Earlier this week, Kensington Palace said the wedding will take place at St George's Chapel in the grounds of Windsor Castle sometime in May.

Tonight it refused to comment on the proposed date of May 26.
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The prince and Miss Markle's reception could be held in the castle's 180ft (55m) long St George's Hall, traditionally used for glittering state banquets.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5134443/Prince-Harry-Meghan-NOT-set-date-wedding.html
That's good because I'd imagine that the date would have to be set by now because of the queen's schedule which is usually done far in advance of events.
Odd that the press is calling her Miss Markle when she's a divorce.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on November 30, 2017, 11:26:52 pm
What?!  :o

I think everyone knows who the "source" (for the dm and soem others) is, who's been called "an impeccable source" by royal reporters, I think Emily Andrews said "impeccable source", you can guess.. Here's a hint: name begins with an "M" and ends with "eghan"....

We now have also "the Meghan effect"  :wopedo:
https://twitter.com/WhatMeghanWore/status/935566237031165954

"Official engagement portraits have not been scheduled or taken yet. Hopefully just before or after Christmas say KP #RoyalEngagement @royalspotlight"
https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/status/935578403033501699

Also
https://twitter.com/byEmilyAndrews/status/935546539472244737


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on November 30, 2017, 11:42:48 pm
I don't why there is a Meghan effect. The coat was tacky and the dress so so. It didn't fit her right and looked awful underneath that oversized coat.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 12:08:37 am
@KensingtonRoyal
Prince Harry will attend the London Fire Brigade Carol Service at Westminster Cathedral on Monday 4th December.
At the annual service, there will be festive readings and traditional Christmas carols for London Fire Brigade’s uniformed and non-uniformed members of staff and their families.
I believe it's true that Meghan will have to leave London to go back to America because she has to do the visa in her home country. The joint engagements around the U.K. with hard wouldn't make sense if the wedding's in May and she's not authorized to stay in the U.K. past 6 months. Notice only Harry's mentioned to attend the Christmas carols on Monday. Although I'd love to see her act the fool on Friday, it'd make sense if that event was cancelled and she legs it back to the USA to sort out her paper work.
PICTURE EXCLUSIVE: A long way from Windsor Castle! Meghan Markle poses in a yellow bikini and trilby hat with her mum just hours before marrying (her first husband)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5134421/Meghan-Markle-poses-yellow-bikini-trilby-hat.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 01, 2017, 01:06:16 am
the newsbiscuit one is a spoof/sarcastic article right?  :- (I'm cross reading the topic to get caught up soo..)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 01, 2017, 01:13:02 am
So who DOES Meghan remind you of, Harry? From her brunette locks to her fashion sense, how the prince's fiancée bears a resemblance to Pippa Middleton... even from behind

    Prince Harry's fiancee Meghan Markle bears a resemblance to Pippa Middleton
    Pippa is sister to Markle's soon-to-be sister-in-law, the Duchess of Cambridge
    They share brunette locks, yoga-toned physiques and a similar fashion sense
    Harry and Meghan will be married at Windsor Castle's St George's Chapel in May


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5134447/Meghan-Markle-bears-resemblance-Pippa-Middleton.html

Amazingly, they do look alike! Not always, the angle and all has to be right, but when it's right, they look like long lost sisters  :-

^ The newsbiscuit bit must be a joke :-

Except what I wrote about dm's (and others') "impeccable source", that's definitely M. Don't know if you've been reading here, but many have for a long while speculated that M leaks to the media like a sieve and it can really only be her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 01:17:24 am
How Meghan Markle Shook the Advertising World as a Young Girl With Letter Challenging Gender Roles

Before she was a royal-to-be, Meghan Markle penned a letter that would have a lasting impact in the advertising world and drew national attention — when she was only in grade school.

As a young girl, Markle was watching television in a classroom with other students when a commercial for Ivory dishwasher soap proclaimed that "women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans."

She took issue with the 'sexist' phrasing, and ultimately decided to do something about it, especially after two male classmates at the time joked about how women “belong” in the kitchen.

"I remember feeling shocked and angry and also just feeling so hurt," Markle said in a 2015 speech at the UN on International Women's Day. "It just wasn't right and something needed to be done."

Her father inspired her to let her voice be heard.

"He encouraged me to write letters, so I did — to the most powerful people I could think of,” she said in the speech.

Inspired by a poster in her bedroom of Rosie the Riveter and the "We can do it!" mantra, the young Markle wrote a letter to the soap's manufacturer, Procter & Gamble; civil rights lawyer Gloria Allred; then-first lady Hillary Clinton and Nick News anchor Linda Ellerbee.

After receiving the letter, Ellerbee sent a camera crew to meet her. And later the commercial was changed to say "people" and not “women.”

“People all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans,” the ad said in its updated version.

Markle spoke about her activism on Nick News in 1993.
http://www.insideedition.com/how-meghan-markle-shook-advertising-world-young-girl-letter-challenging-gender-roles-38542



WOW how nice of them to "find" this tape now . good for her


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 01:18:23 am
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Today’s picture of Miss Markle is part of a series of exclusive images which will appear in tomorrow’s Daily Mail.

The photos chart the woman who will soon become part of the Royal Family from a young child to recent years, when she became known for playing Rachel Zane in US legal drama Suits.  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5134421/Meghan-Markle-poses-yellow-bikini-trilby-hat.html
We've been hearing gossip about sex tapes and nude pictures since she became linked to Harry. If those pictures exist, I'm sure they'll be featured tomorrow.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on December 01, 2017, 02:12:13 am
^ I don't think they look alike. They have very similar styles but they look nothing alike. Did one copy the other in fashion and appearance?

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if she suddenly becomes a glamourpus*y and starts dressing totally different with long dresses and diamonds with blue and gold gems and smart suits with proper pumps and overcoats. Yes, a totally different persona. She may even cut er hair with bangs... in other words try to pull off what KM can't. .. :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 01, 2017, 02:25:08 am
^^^Wow. So a video has turned up confirming that 11 year old Meghan did write a letter complaining about their sexist ads to the detergent company after all, and was interviewed about it. For nearly a year Meghan was attacked on the Internet, forums, Twitter, for being a fantasist and outright liar about that childhood incident. And she told the truth. Thanks Fly for posting this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 02:28:05 am
^No.

That soap story again?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/159721104186/meghan-markles-ivory-soap-controversy-is-totes/amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/159721104186/meghan-markles-ivory-soap-controversy-is-totes/amp)

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Meghan Markle’s Ivory Soap Controversy is Totes Fake

This is in response to one of last night’s ads. An anon asked me if I’d ever looked into Meghan’s claims that she single-handedly killed a Procter & Gamble ad campaign when she was only eleven years old.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 01, 2017, 02:33:10 am
My information is that both William and Harry have refused to take over the Prince's Trust as they aren't interested in the sort of good work it does. They want to take on 'causes' for a relatively short period of time - 3 - 5 years - and then move onto a new cause/s through their own Foundation.

Those 2 don't have the "staying power" to stick around for the long haul.  They just want to pick a cause that's fashionable at the time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2017, 03:14:57 am
My information is that both William and Harry have refused to take over the Prince's Trust as they aren't interested in the sort of good work it does. They want to take on 'causes' for a relatively short period of time - 3 - 5 years - and then move onto a new cause/s through their own Foundation.

You know, that is horrible; the Prince's Trust has done so much and these two want to throw it all away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 01, 2017, 03:37:31 am
^ But that link, pronouncing everything as a big fat Meghan lie is from April 2017 Yooper, (see the date on notes at the bottom of the post) and the video of eleven year old Meghan talking about it on TV has only just turned up now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 03:58:28 am
How will Meghan Markle become a British citizen?
How do you become a British royal? Well, you could be proposed to by a prince - and Meghan Markle already has that covered. But what about the British bit?
When it comes to becoming a citizen, Kensington Palace says Ms Markle will be treated like anyone else.
Prince Harry's communication's secretary, Jason Knauf, said Ms Markle would be "compliant with immigration requirements at all times".
"I can also say she intends to become a UK citizen and will go through the process of that, which some of you may know takes a number of years," he added.

It is not currently known whether she will retain her US citizenship and take dual nationality.

Bringing Meghan into the country
First, she will have to apply for a family visa in order to remain in the country.
Since 2012, UK citizens have had to meet a minimum income threshold of £18,600 a year, or have cash savings above £16,000, to bring a partner into the country.
We don't know precisely how much Prince Harry earns, but he shouldn't have any trouble with that.
It's understood that he receives an income via his father. Prince Charles's estate, the Duchy of Cornwall, made him £20.7m profit last year.
And Prince Harry also has access to a large inheritance from his mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, which had been placed in a trust until he turned 30.
Non-EU partners of British citizens coming into the country on a family visa also have to pass an English speaking test - unless they come from one of a list of countries where English is an official language, including the United States.
So US-born Ms Markle will be fine on this front.
If someone comes to the country as the fiancee of a British citizen, they must marry within six months.
With their engagement this month and the wedding planned for May 2018, they should just tie the knot in time.

Generally, before someone comes into the country as the partner of a British citizen on a family visa, they must submit a range of evidence proving their relationship is real.
This might include:
records of email, text and phone conversations
holiday photos
flight tickets
leases on shared apartments
mortgage documents
We simply don't know if Ms Markle has begun this process already.

Will they have to go to Croydon?
The initial visa granted will last up to two and a half years, after which time it must be renewed.
Home Office staff can ask couples to come to the Croydon headquarters of the UK Visa and Immigration service or one of six other immigration centres around the country for an interview, although not everyone will have to do this.
After coming in on a family visa, individuals must wait five years before permanent residency is granted, also known as "indefinite leave to remain".

Life in the UK
Only then can they apply for citizenship, provided they have spent no more than 270 days outside the UK in the past three years.
At this point, Ms Markle will have to take a test with questions on life in the UK, costing £50.
According to the website Life in the UK Test Web, this could include multiple-choice questions such as "Who is married to the Queen of England?" and "What is the relationship between the monarch and the government?"
In case Ms Markle needs any help, the Home Office produces an official handbook with everything she will need to know for the test.
The citizenship application costs £1,464 or £1,583 for a fast-track premium service.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42169602
Oh boy, what a dumb a*se Mehgan is. The engagement interview will be used as part of her immigration application!! The visa officials will have to verify that this relationship's real andrequire proof as to avoid immagration fraud like they would do to any other couple as she's not getting special treatment. Harry will have to be her sponsor to get her the family visa.  :tehe:  She's toast.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 04:02:58 am
^^The facts haven't changed.  It's just another version of her story even if as a child she was exaggerating.  Every single link in the debunking story is one big tall tale after another exposed from Hillary not being First Lady to the riots to no such ad ever being aired.

If this glory story was truly true, it would be all over the place and praised to the skies but it's been fact checked to death.  And it's simply not true.

At that time in history, it would have been a matter of fact-based record within the Women's Rights Advocacy group in California.  Heck, even Californians know this is a lot of fantasy from her childhood.  She may have been fed it and believes it, which is sad, but the story itself has been glossed up so much by her that it fails the Pinocchio Test.

ETA

[url][http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/meghan-markle-advocated-women-age-11-51424099/url]

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Meghan Markle has advocated for women since the age of 11

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Markle recalled that around the time of the 1995 Beijing conference she was in school in Los Angeles watching television and saw a commercial for a dishwashing liquid with the tagline: "Women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans."

"Two boys from my class said, 'Yeah. That's where women belong — in the kitchen,'" she said.

"I remember feeling shocked and angry and also just feeling so hurt. It just wasn't right, and something needed to be done," Markle said.

When she went home, she told her dad, who encouraged her to write letters.

"My 11-year-old self worked out that if I really wanted someone to hear, well then I should write a letter to the first lady. So off I went scribbling away to our first lady at the time, Hillary Clinton," Markle said.

She also wrote to her main news source, Linda Ellerbee, who hosted a kids news program, as well as to "powerhouse attorney" Gloria Allred and to the manufacturer of the dishwashing soap.

To her surprise, she said, after a few weeks she received letters of encouragement from Clinton, Allred and Ellerbee, who even sent a camera crew to her house to cover the story.

"It was roughly a month later when the soap manufacturer, Proctor and Gamble, changed the commercial for their Ivory Clear Dishwashing Liquid ... from 'Women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans' to "People all over America ...'," Markle said.

"It was at that moment that I realized the magnitude of my actions," she said. "At the age of 11, I had created my small level of impact by standing up for equality."

Impossible.  In 1995, she wasn't 11 years old.  She was born in 1981.  She was 13 or 14 but she conveniently changed the date from 1992 to make the HRC and Allred thing add up.  The less said about this the better because it's embarrassing how embellished she's made this for reasons known only to her.

I can guarantee one thing.  If Allred had made a major company like Proctor & Gamble change a television ad, she'd have made it known.  Same goes for HRC.  And the ad would exist! 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 05:11:48 am
Pornhub reveal unbelievable rise in Meghan Markle porn searches
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Porn website Pornhub has revealed porn searches containing the words 'Meghan Markle' have rocketed since news of the royal engagement broke on Monday.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-porn-pornhub-search-13971771.amp
If pictures exist, they'll be dumped there. I saw this on the DM today, but it seems to have been removed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 05:16:56 am
^People don't normally use their real names on those sites do they?  I don't know why but I don't think they'll find anything.  She either didn't do porn or they're scrubbed.  Not sure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on December 01, 2017, 06:09:39 am
So, anyone thinking Meghan wrapped up more than an engagement in her white coat?  :baby:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 01, 2017, 07:14:45 am
I think it's just an ill suited coat. On the engagement interview the same day she was looking just flat, same with the pictures after her facial for the big day the week before the engagwment announcement.

For sure, she will try to get pregnant by any means possible. And I'm sure she will never run away in tears as one of the DM articles said today. She'll cling to Harry and never let go of that tiara with peonies she surely fancies. She may act out with "I have doubts" just to reel in Harry even more but will nevet ever let go of the coveted HRH and tiara and if course - vanity projects rhat serve her and nit necessarily the people of UK or the commonwealth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 01, 2017, 09:20:24 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5135049/Meghan-Markle-got-soap-maker-change-sexist-commercial.html
It seems the soap commercial is true.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 12:10:40 pm
Unfortunately it does. I guess it would look weird for today not to happen. She's not listed to attend the concert with him on Monday, so it might be true that she leaves for America afterwards to get her paperwork for the visas and name change started. I actually like what she has on. I think Harry looks weird with that beige scarf on because it doesn't go with his coloring. The only good thing I can see is that people are treating her nicely. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd was bused in or told to act happy for them and to pour it on thick.
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ByTheWay, Shropshire, United Kingdom, moments ago
She will have been briefed, very well briefed on Royal Etiquette. Clearly, she has no intention of adhering. Touching his back, rubbing his arm as if to say "You're OK, you're doing well" is something we've never seen before. That's what you do when you want to give someone reassurance. Prince Harry needing reassurance? Holding hands on a public engagement another.I take it that this, their first Royal Engagement is her showing that she's going to do it her way. Let's see what happens as time passes.
New00
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5135897/Crowds-gather-Harry-Meghans-walkabout.html#comments-5135897
Harry' been doing this most of his life and doesn't need her all over him; trying to reassure him. Having attention is her oxygen. She's lapping this up. The comments aren't positive so that's good that people aren't buying into this crap.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 12:20:22 pm
Meghan Markle shows effortless style as she and Prince Harry thrill thousands of well-wishers in new royal couple's 30-minute first official walkabout
Harry and Meghan are on their first official engagement together to Nottingham to youth project in city
They were greeted by more than a thousand cheering people outside the city's Contemporary Arts Ce


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5135897/Crowds-gather-Harry-Meghans-walkabout.html#ixzz500klE72z
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How nice of them to Match his scarf matching her skirt


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 01, 2017, 12:36:42 pm
I watched it live and I'm glad I did. Some of the people had been waiting there since 8am that morning, and it was freezing! However, there were people shouting her name and his, taking photos, calling out Congratulations, cheering. On the video the people were happy, enthusiastic, smiling. It was good to see. Meghan was the ultimate professional, picked up a woman's glove, took flowers, cards, thanked people, kept on smiling. Sometimes they were together, working the crowd on both sides of the street, sometimes apart. The crowd loved them both.

The ranters of the Fail never like anything anyone does so I take no notice. As for 'unprofessionally' holding hands, touching each other's back and sleeve, just because William and Kate don't touch each other doesn't mean other royals don't. I've seen photos of Philippe and Mathilde of Belgium holding hands and touching each other's shoulders, also Willem Alexander of the Netherlands, Victoria and Daniel of Sweden, and Haakon and Mette Marit of Norway do exactly the same on Royal engagements.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 02:44:14 pm
The DM is really pouring it on calling this Meghan Mania and her greeting her fans. I heard that she keeps walking in front of him and acting like the crowds are there for her only and that Harry's her co-star in this drama as she takes the lead. There should be videos that support this view if true. She should now push off to get her papers sorted as she has to stay in the States for 12 consecutive weeks from what I've read.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: camilapitanga on December 01, 2017, 02:47:41 pm
Long time i dont post but just heard the news about this engagement and had to come to say how happy i am for Harry.As an old fan i couldnt be happier for him seeing him marry someone he seems to genuinelly love :loveshower:

Since day one i liked her and though she would be perfect for the role so i couldnt be happier with this announcement.It really brough something for people to talk about and judging how happy harry looks i couldnt be happier for him!!Seeing her today just proved to me why i really think shes a star on the making.Shes beautiful, elegant, well mannered, articulate and knows how to deal with public and attention! It seems to me this ones i a winner and has it all and will be very popular.Shell be a great princess and a prize to this familly.Shes not perfect and has a lot to learn but i think shell do a great job and bring a lot of good things for the RF and Britain and why not say the wolrd as were living in caos right now.Its always good to have nice people trying to help and use theyre image for the good.She may be ambitious but as long as she uses it for the good i dont have an issue with it.

I was positivelly surprised with how many people there were in the crowd and how they seemed so excited to see them.I totally got new princess mania vibes.I know i was very surprised and happy with what i saw i though they were amazing as a couple  and she didnt disapointed at all.She didnt looked her best at the engagement announcement but today she looked fantastic!!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 02:50:04 pm
The touching and clinging looks unprofessional in any setting.  And that's not just Royal Stuff.  Celebs do it on the Red Carpet like the attention freaks they are but in a work environment it's childlike. I wouldn't do it at any public function with my late husband.  Especially when it's his job.  I'd look ridiculous as does she, to me.  Grow up.

^^Not sure about the 12 weeks requirement on our side here.  It's a process, tho.  Our Gov makes nothing easy, smooth or without a mountain of paperwork.  SOP.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 01, 2017, 02:52:24 pm
^The tax issue is what will be interesting, in the long run.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 04:02:30 pm
Meghan Markle Is The Future Of A Monarchy With Racist Baggage
The significance of the biracial actor's upcoming marriage into the British royal family may be purely symbolic, but after centuries of white supremacy and colonial tyranny, it's still a sign of progress.

When Kensington Palace announced the engagement of Prince Harry and the actor Meghan Markle on Monday morning, the news lit up Black and Brown Twitter. Some rejoiced, seeing it as a lighthearted victory (“I always knew Prince Harry was down with the swirl”) or a potential revolution (“If anyone can get us back our reparations for colonialism it’s Meghan Markle”). Others were saltier, joking that Markle was in the Sunken Place. And then there were people who simply enjoyed watching a subset of die-hard monarchists, royalists, and Prince Harry fangirls seethe over the pairing.

The British monarchy is still — even if only symbolically — powerful and undeniably popular. Queen Elizabeth II remains the sovereign of 15 other countries while also acting as the head of the Commonwealth of Nations, which covers nearly a third of the world’s population. When Prince William and Kate Middleton wed, viewers from over 180 countries tuned in, including 23 million Americans. In fact, more people watched their wedding than Charles and Diana’s. This isn’t to say the royal family and their love lives should matter. They simply do.

The last time a British royal married an American divorcee, the royal family tailspun into a constitutional crisis. Meghan Markle’s engagement isn’t likely to spark anything similar, but her joining the Windsor family is significant on broader levels. British royalty has long been synonymous with the idea of whiteness. Markle’s upcoming marriage challenges this ideal and drags the monarchy, and Britain by extension, into the present. Her significance in the wake of centuries of colonial tyranny and white supremacy may be purely symbolic, but symbols matter. Markle — who was 2016’s most googled actress — may be the key to modernizing the monarchy, simply by virtue of who she is.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sandirankaduwa/itsamodernmarkle?utm_term=.auALRZ9gw#.lpERVx0on


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 01, 2017, 04:11:45 pm
^ Someone get me a vomit bag! :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 01, 2017, 04:16:26 pm
^^For all intents and purposes, she is a white passing biracial woman. This would carry more weight if this weren't the case.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 04:48:37 pm
^amen sister. That's what sickening about people who praise her. They fail to open their eyes and see what she's really about. The press has laid that out bare for months now, even reporting that she had discussions in college talking about colourisn in the black community and what did she do but continue to get rid of her black side. It's annoyingly bad when people of color get caught color issues and not character. She's not someone to be celebrating as she's a disgraceful user of people and a fake. This was her red carpet debut and not a real royal event. Now she can't accuse the royals or the British people of being racist like she did around the time the statement came out, because she's been treated quite well. Now she can go back to the State on a high My hope is that she'll have to stay there cause the IRS would like a word with her. This over the top coverage is more Hollywood than about royalty so I'm hoping that this is her swan song because it's waaay to much now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 04:55:45 pm
She's already getting flack when she brings up her race "suffering" and how she's never dated or married a black man nor done diddly for the black community.  On KTLA anyway.  They are unimpressed which will leap frog to the media.  This was not unexpected.  Still a first class phony to me. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 05:06:07 pm
 ^of course she is, but she now can't use the race card against the royals or British people ever again because of the reception and acceptance that she's received since the engagement. She must be so high on the adulation she received today even though it's phony as it looked so scripted. Who would really be fans of hers and be so happy to see her?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 01, 2017, 05:11:43 pm
Harry and Meghan depart Nottingham to screams and cheers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/936599161633427456/video/1


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 01, 2017, 05:21:33 pm
Meghan Markle Is The Future Of A Monarchy With Racist Baggage
The significance of the biracial actor's upcoming marriage into the British royal family may be purely symbolic, but after centuries of white supremacy and colonial tyranny, it's still a sign of progress.

When Kensington Palace announced the engagement of Prince Harry and the actor Meghan Markle on Monday morning, the news lit up Black and Brown Twitter. Some rejoiced, seeing it as a lighthearted victory (“I always knew Prince Harry was down with the swirl”) or a potential revolution (“If anyone can get us back our reparations for colonialism it’s Meghan Markle”). Others were saltier, joking that Markle was in the Sunken Place. And then there were people who simply enjoyed watching a subset of die-hard monarchists, royalists, and Prince Harry fangirls seethe over the pairing.

The British monarchy is still — even if only symbolically — powerful and undeniably popular. Queen Elizabeth II remains the sovereign of 15 other countries while also acting as the head of the Commonwealth of Nations, which covers nearly a third of the world’s population. When Prince William and Kate Middleton wed, viewers from over 180 countries tuned in, including 23 million Americans. In fact, more people watched their wedding than Charles and Diana’s. This isn’t to say the royal family and their love lives should matter. They simply do.

The last time a British royal married an American divorcee, the royal family tailspun into a constitutional crisis. Meghan Markle’s engagement isn’t likely to spark anything similar, but her joining the Windsor family is significant on broader levels. British royalty has long been synonymous with the idea of whiteness. Markle’s upcoming marriage challenges this ideal and drags the monarchy, and Britain by extension, into the present. Her significance in the wake of centuries of colonial tyranny and white supremacy may be purely symbolic, but symbols matter. Markle — who was 2016’s most googled actress — may be the key to modernizing the monarchy, simply by virtue of who she is.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sandirankaduwa/itsamodernmarkle?utm_term=.auALRZ9gw#.lpERVx0on

I don't think Prince Harry went looking for a bi-racial woman to shake up the Royal Family.  :laugh: He dated a woman he thought is beautiful, they get along, love each other, and so are now engaged to be married, the same as with William and Kate. It irks me that people want to make their relationship a political one because her mother has a darker skin color than Harry's mother. We're all human beings and race is just a factor in keeping people ostracized at times, the same with money.

Her marrying into this family is not all-of-a-sudden going to stop violence and poverty around the world or anything else for that matter. You would think that having a bi-racial president of the United States, Barack Obama, would absolve African-Americans from injustice, nope, there were more killings of unarmed black men than when there wasn't a "black" president. Remember #BlackLivesMatter began during Obama's presidency, not Bush 43's or Trump's.  :shy:

Meghan is just another distraction, like Kate and the rest of the RF, to keep people from dwelling on what the real problems are in the UK, United States, Syria, Lybia, etc.  :sob:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 06:26:17 pm

@ABC2020
Meghan Markle's former teachers, classmates remember her before fame: "She had a lot of inner strength. She was spunky. She was feisty."  #ABC2020 http://abcn.ws/2BpeaSm
https://twitter.com/ABC2020/status/936630239240658949


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2017, 06:34:44 pm
'She's beautiful... Only a prince can have a lady like that!' Radiant Meghan wins an army of starstruck new young British fans as she joins fiancé Harry for their first royal charity engagement
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Shell-shocked Meghan said: 'It's just such a thrill to be here. I can't believe it, I've been made so welcome'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5135897/Crowds-gather-Harry-Meghans-walkabout.html
Straight from the horses mouth, so she can't say that the British people are racist and unwelcoming.
It's so over the top regarding the fawning that it's obvious that this wasn't a natural event, but had people advised to act like that especially after polls and that video showing most people being indifferent to her and even Harry.

From cover girl to the crown! Meghan Markle poses in a VERY provocative photo shoot for a Canadian men's magazine just three years before she met her prince
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137229/Meghan-Markle-poses-Canadian-mens-magazine.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 06:53:34 pm
the fawing is no surpise the same thing happen with kate .

from a poster on RD  who saw this from a reporter who was there

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"So today I met Harry & Meghan in Nottingham, She is WONDERFUL! Hello, whats your name she said, 'Paul' Well its lovelly to meet you Paul, My name is Meghan and I so appreciate you taking the time to come today. Im won over by our new royal to be!!!what a great team they are together! Nice size crowds and they were criss crossing, they were holding hands , he was hugging her, SO many press there and saw harry had a go at one cameraman who got too close to meghan! Good for him! Feet up now and resting!"

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“I was shaking her hand and I apologised for my hands being really cold, so she put [her hand] into her pocket and got this heat pack out for me,” a woman told Sky News.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 01, 2017, 06:57:32 pm
^ this is the Diana the press has been waiting for  :shy:   :sorry:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 07:05:38 pm
thats what they doing ,but there will never be another diana they need to get that in their head .Just let meghan be meghan just beacuse she's nice and bubbly charming dosen't  make her di

Meghan Markle has rescued her prince
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/meghan-markle-has-rescued-her-prince/

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's first public engagement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys8B-l7sVm8

Prince Harry and Meghan attend World Aids Day event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPG818eQ7_I


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 01, 2017, 07:42:42 pm
^of course she is, but she now can't use the race card against the royals or British people ever again because of the reception and acceptance that she's received since the engagement. She must be so high on the adulation she received today even though it's phony as it looked so scripted. Who would really be fans of hers and be so happy to see her?

A lot of people have become her fans simply because she makes Harry happy and they are his fans.

They may not have even heard of her two weeks ago but she has the heart of Diana's baby boy and that means she is to be adored as well. It is the way of the British and many other people - don't look too deeply at the person themselves but at the fact they make one or other of Diana's boys happy.

For others seeing any young couple in love is a time of joy for them to share and to wish the couple all the best.

She is also a TV star in her own right and does have a fan base so she would have some fans (personally I don't know anyone who had even heard of Suits before she come into the public domain last year but that doesn't mean that there weren't people who were fans of the show before that - it had been going for six seasons when it was made public that she was dating Harry so presumably there were people who knew who she was and some would have been her fans).

Basically it seems to me that there are many people who are simply happy to see a newly engaged young couple and want to wish them well.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 08:06:46 pm

@RE_DailyMail
I've had a few questions today about who the lady helping #MeganMarkle is: she's #PrinceHarry's assistant private secretary Heather Wong. She isn't working for Meghan now, it's just that everyone is pitching in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 01, 2017, 10:48:22 pm
EXCLUSIVE - Unseen Meghan: Incredible collection of 50 intimate snaps of Miss Markle from age five to 30 by her best friend tells the real story of Prince Harry's wife-to-be

    Photos of Meghan's life from schooldays to her first wedding were shared by childhood friend Ninaki Priddy
    The pair joined Hollywood’s private Little Red School House at the age of two and were inseparable
    Other images show Meghan at college, on vacation, aged 15, in Europe and a post-graduation road trip


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137445/Meghan-Markle-seen-50-rare-candid-photographs.html


The REAL Meghan by the friend who knew her best: Inseparable from the age of two, Ninaki was maid of honour at her first wedding. Here, she reveals how fame changed Meghan - and why she blames HER for the mysterious end to that marriage...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137785/Meghan-Markle-revelations-friend-knew-best.html


From partying with her pals to romancing a royal! Unseen photos from 2003 show Meghan Markle at 21 celebrating her college graduation in a low-cut shirt, while cozying up to a handsome mystery man

    The 36-year-old actress graduated from Northwestern University with joint  Bachelor of Arts degrees in theater and international relations, over a decade before she met Prince Harry
    The nearly 15-year-old photos show Meghan enjoying a night out with friends in Chicago while celebrating her graduation from the prestigious institution
    The snapshots were taken by her childhood friend Ninaki Priddy
    Prince Harry and Meghan announced engagement their engagement on Monday after a 16-month romance; they are set to marry in May at St. George's Chapel in Windsor Castle


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137503/Unseen-images-Meghan-Markle-college-graduation-party.html


A (prom) queen in the making! Unseen photos of Meghan Markle show the actress and future royal happily posing at her high school dance in a dazzling white dress and pretty floral corsage

    A newly released set of photos gives a glimpse of Meghan's life from her childhood to her early adulthood
    The intimate images include several shots of the Suits star during her 1999 high school prom in Los Angeles
    Prince Harry's future wife, the daughter of a psychotherapist yoga instructor and of a lighting director, grew up in Hollywood and attended the Immaculate Heart High School, an all-girl Catholic establishment
    Later on, Meghan, now 36, attended Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, and she can be seen in the newly released pictures celebrating her graduation during a night out
    Meghan's childhood friend shared the photos, which also include sweet snaps of a young Meghan posing in front of London landmarks—including Buckingham Palace—during a European trip with her friend's family


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137453/Unseen-photos-Meghan-Markle-prom.html


Meghan's first taste of Britain! How Ms Markle's dream tour of Europe in her teens saw her fall in love with the UK (and landed her right on Harry's doorstep!)

    Newly unearthed images capture Meghan at the tender age of 15 during her family tour of Europe
    In June 1996 the bride-to-be visited the UK cities of Bath and London where she posed by Buckingham Palace
    She also made stop-overs in Paris and Switzerland where she visited a diamond house and tried on rings


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5137387/Meghan-Markles-dream-tour-Europe-teenager.html


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/01/13/46E00C9B00000578-5135897-image-m-149_1512135171737.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 01, 2017, 11:03:44 pm
Some friend. She IMO has no clue why the marriage broke up. Sounds catty to me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 01, 2017, 11:17:43 pm
It just also happens to be true.  I’ll tell ya, if I saw a person who had run over people I cared about the way this woman disposes of people like kleenex, I’d do the same thing.  Harry seems genuinely in love with all of this but Markle is notorious for her calculating ambition.  Hopefully, he never tires of her or her mask slips.  Enjoy the illusion while you can, buddy.  There are too many similar tales about MM to discount them as bitter or jealous or what have you.  Far too many.  It’s an act.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 01, 2017, 11:31:19 pm
so yeah her friend is selling her it was coming not shocking at all. people won't belive this friend ,but when things was coming out with kate they would belived those friends. good and bad things are going come out now :sigh:  Trevor still not talking and he's dating someone else and Meghan wont be talking either 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 01, 2017, 11:47:22 pm
^^I believe the friend. Where there's smoke, there's fire.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 01, 2017, 11:49:25 pm
It just also happens to be true.  I’ll tell ya, if I saw a person who had run over people I cared about the way this woman disposes of people like kleenex, I’d do the same thing.  Harry seems genuinely in love with all of this but Markle is notorious for her calculating ambition.  Hopefully, he never tires of her or her mask slips.  Enjoy the illusion while you can, buddy.  There are too many similar tales about MM to discount them as bitter or jealous or what have you.  Far too many.  It’s an act.
Not necessarily true. Harry was and is a willing participant it is not as if Meghan 'tricked him'. I think a friend would keep her opinions to herself and not go blabbing to the media like a vulture. I think  she's the nasty one not Meghan. It is a bonus for her that maybe she got paid for her confessions and she is now "famous" too. Why is it always the woman who is the "monster." Maybe Harry has a mask that will slip.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 02, 2017, 12:24:56 am
So why IS Meghan's dad determined to hide from the world? How Thomas Markle, 73, has changed his phone number and concealed his address to avoid being traced

    Since Meghan's relationship with Harry was revealed father has gone unseen
    The 73-year-old retired TV lighting director has changed his phone numbers
    And even the Prince has not come face to face with his future father-in-law


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5137911/So-Meghans-dad-determined-hide-world.html
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Yes, women always get the bad rep for being supposedly "catty", "btchy" and bury other women; but in truth men are very much the same, if not worse. The things I hear from men in my life and what and how they talk about other men in their lives! They are huge gossips, they just don't have the reputation for it. And then businessmen trying to bury each other and outdo each other; dig up dirt etc etc. Men and women may come from Mars and Venus respectively, but they are much the same in so many ways.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2017, 05:45:48 am
^ I disagree. In the interview Meghan said that they have made it a point to not read and not believe the media. Very clever move as people constantly come up with the same description of who Meghan really is - a manipulator and a calculating ambitious woman who will do anything and say anything to get her way. The only kudos I'll give her is that she did in the 90 days they were actually together what president Trump could not do for 11 months in the office - she convinced PH to not believe the people who come forth with truths about her. Kudos to her but as Yooper says - the mask inevitably slips and it will. Maybe before the wedding or after - it will and then PH will start seeing what his family have been saying all along: she's bad news.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 02, 2017, 08:55:21 am
^ We dont know what Harry's family have been saying about Meghan. None of them have come out and said anything except, in various ways, that they are pleased about the engagement. Nor are they likely to, so where are the sources for this rumour coming from? Made up stuff on Twitter and Tumblr, equally made up tripe from online gossip sites, the junior kitchen maid at BP?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Val on December 02, 2017, 02:56:21 pm
Several of the same comments on other forums ie that Wills and Harry have both been trapped
by their trousers.

Usually when someone says they don't read comments about themselves whether good or bad
it usually means they do.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 02, 2017, 03:26:04 pm
^Yep.  Sparkles and her entire world follow the media, social and otherwise like hawks on crack cocaine.  They're the most avid followers on planet earth.  It's their bread and butter minus the taxpayers, so, don't tell me you live outside "the noise".  Hogwash.

There has got to be a stats geek somewhere who runs the public and media analytics for the BRF as well.  Image is all they've got.  They are there only through the seemingly endless patience and good will of the public so what's said out there matters more than anything.  Well, it should, anyway.

They're certainly not stupid enough to just follow and buy into the good stuff and sycophancy.  That would be beyond irresponsible.  But, I don't think that it's the royals themselves who actively go about doing that.  That's so they can get away with saying they don't read this or that.  That's probably true.  But, somebody else most assuredly does and reports accordingly with good news/bad news.

Now, listening to this info.  Well, that's another animal entirely.  I'm amazed at how much outrage has to be expressed before the BRF adjusts.  It took forever, for instance, to get Kate to stop having her dress fly over her head.  Once should've stopped that.  So, there's a built-in arrogance and untouchability that is appalling.  Makes for good gossip, tho!

Anyway, so far, not much Markle coverage here since the limp engagement announcement that dropped down the page really fast.  That surprised me.  And LA coverage has been largely negative from the black and minority communities.  Not surprising at all.  The only reason this matters is that the US media is watching to see what will sell and blowing off her own race is news since she herself made it a "cause". 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 02, 2017, 03:42:33 pm
There is no way in hell Sparkles isn't reading her own press. I'd bet $100 that she has Google alerts set up on her phone. She is a trained actress. Marketing her image is hardwired into her DNA.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Val on December 02, 2017, 03:49:56 pm

It's all over everywhere here.  Opening the DM just now a glossy supplement called 'Meghan an intimate Album' fell out.  At the same time I switched on Sky News to see a documentary about them again.  It's being debated on the Pledge and everywhere else too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 02, 2017, 04:11:48 pm
^My sympathies.  Not even my FB news feed has anything and I've "liked" all appropriate pages for info.  The most info, oddly, has been Kate's relative, Katrina Darling and her new show in NYC I think!  Ha!

The few articles have had maybe 6 likes and an equal number of "who cares?" type things.  Indifference seems to be higher than the gush-a-thon when Kate was first on the scene.  That was nauseating.  That's cooled off, too, tho.  We have bigger issues than some goofy actress and a privileged prince.  That's not me saying that.  That's the temperature.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 02, 2017, 04:54:02 pm
^I agree. We've got waaaay too much going on on this side of the pond (especially in the last 24 hours) to give a crap about this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Val on December 02, 2017, 04:59:55 pm
^^

Lucky you with little reporting.  The sugars are loving it but are usually those lacking in the grey matter although there is much negativity towards her too.  She seems to be already taking over.

Nothing at all here about Katrina Darling's new show in NYC.  Must have been well and truly suppressed after Uncle Gary's wife bashing media exposure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2017, 05:33:10 pm
^yep, but search and you shall find:
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During sentencing, the judge referred to Gary Goldsmith, the brother of Kate Middleton’s mother, as a “nasty drunk.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kate-middleton-uncle-gary-goldsmith-sentenced-punching-wife-article-1.3663661
Sorry OT, I'll post in the appropriate thread.
Supposedly bad press will be coming out about Mehgan in a few days. We've been hearing this for a while and some bad stuff comes out but things still continue on corse. One thing should be acurate though is her applying for her visa in the States and I believe that interview that she told a bunch of lies in will be used as evidence she she applies for spouse/family visa. Also, she has to change her name officially back from her married name. What a mess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on December 02, 2017, 05:38:18 pm
^^^^^ When is she giving her Oscar speech?  :cookie:

^ How does her lying affect her VISA? What lies did she tell?    :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 02, 2017, 07:27:57 pm
I think it is going to be easy for her to get a visa. My  Brit mom and siblings all got US citizenship when marriying Americans. My grandma got UK citizenship when marriying my Brit Grandpa and they lived in Ecuador and had kids that moved to Los Angeles and stayed. Those kids had three citizenships ultimately. What is even the issue. When you marry you usually can get spouse's  citizenship if you live in the spouses country. So she will get her visa and. UK citizenship and she can keep USA if she wants. Whatever she lied about is probably irrelevant. She is not a convicted criminal...yet.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2017, 07:45:00 pm
^it's not that easy anymore.
^^she lied during the engagement interview. Everything she said will have to be backed up by receipts. She could be in trouble for visa fraud; shame relationship to get a British visa.
This is the poll that someone was inquiring about:
https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Meghan_Markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2017, 08:25:59 pm
^That's interesting. She did lie on her engagement interview. Lots of inconsistencies between what she said and what he said and they were next to each other. If Harry's royal status could be set aside, any immigration officer will be curious to know if this relationship and marriage are for real and why are they lying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 12:09:21 am
Bishop refuses to congratulate the couple of the moment
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A bishop who sparked outrage when he predicted Prince William's marriage would last only seven years has now refused to congratulate Prince Harry and his bride-to-be.

The acting Bishop of London, Pete Broadbent, whose diocese includes Kensington Palace where the couple live, said he 'declined to comment' when asked whether he wished Prince Harry and Meghan Markle a long and happy union.

His remarks contrasted with the delight expressed by other senior clerics including the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby and the Archbishop of York John Sentamu.

Bishop Broadbent, 65, was suspended in the run-up to Prince William's 2011 wedding after The Mail on Sunday revealed he had branded the Prince and his fiancee Kate Middleton 'shallow celebrities' and called the Royals 'philanderers' who cost 'an arm and a leg'.

In a notorious Facebook rant, he said he could not stand the 'nauseating tosh' surrounding the event, and suggested that he and fellow republicans should go to Calais for the day.

Lambeth Palace declined to comment yesterday.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5139963/Meghans-grandmother-Jeanette-different-Queen.html
Good for him.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 03, 2017, 12:34:29 am
He sounds like a killjoy to me. Shame on him he's supposed to be a religious person.

He does have a point about the royals in general though. But that said, as a clergyman he should keep his opinions to himself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2017, 12:41:57 am
^My sympathies.  Not even my FB news feed has anything and I've "liked" all appropriate pages for info.  The most info, oddly, has been Kate's relative, Katrina Darling and her new show in NYC I think!  Ha!

The few articles have had maybe 6 likes and an equal number of "who cares?" type things.  Indifference seems to be higher than the gush-a-thon when Kate was first on the scene.  That was nauseating.  That's cooled off, too, tho.  We have bigger issues than some goofy actress and a privileged prince.  That's not me saying that.  That's the temperature.

Thing is, these days merit means more than a name or fame.

People seem to be losing patience with the BRF mainly since it's the same thing all the time. Prince finds love and that is all that matters; later prince becomes disenchanted and there's another divorce and ex-wife posturing. Thing is, Harry chose his own level. Meg is clearly loving the attention and I don't think she should have lived as if she were destined for the role and I don't think that she ever owed anyone a puritanical life.

If the public didn't have to pay for it, the attitudes would be different.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 03, 2017, 01:21:18 am
Inside the £1,000-a-night Botswana camp where Prince Harry and Meghan Markle fell in love

It really is the kind of place where one could fall in love; in love with the country, with the light playing on the water, with the stars above you at night, and crucially with the person standing beside you.

And that, by their own account, is what happened to Prince Harry and his fiancé Meghan Markle in Botswana.

It was here, by the dark blue waters of the Boteti river, that the pair first began to get know each other properly.

The newly engaged couple said in an interview last week that their first proper date was a secret five-day holiday in this landlocked southern African country in August last year.

Harry said: “I managed to persuade her to come and join me in Botswana. We camped out with each other under the stars. She came and joined me for five days out there, which was absolutely fantastic.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/02/inside-1000-a-night-botswana-camp-prince-harry-meghan-markle/

if i find a full artcle will post


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 01:42:10 am
During the intervew, he said that he convinced Mehgan to go to Africa with him shortly after their 2 dates in early july. Harry went on the Save the Elephants trip. It was a serious trip that was highlighted with a dcumnetary and o the cover of Country magazine. Wasn't the Botswana trip this year for 3 weeks?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/26/prince-harry-travels-to-africa-on-mission-to-save-500-elephants/

The interview was lies with the tmeline of their sp called romance shifting and making no sense. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: One of the Peasants on December 03, 2017, 02:14:23 am
I am already sick, sick, sick of them.  Stop the planet, I want off.  She looks like a Kardashian and we all know what they do to men.  Run, Ginger, run!!!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 03, 2017, 02:22:36 am
^ ^ The elephant thing lasted for over two weeks and there was a documentary. He was seen by people ( who didn't know about Megha) elsewhere on that trip because sightings came up on Twitter I remember and there was speculation at the time that Harry was just holidaying. The trip was extended by a week.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 02:27:57 am
Inside luxury Botswana safari camp that set stage for Harry and Meghan's love to blossom when he whisked her away to celebrate her 36th birthday in 'Africa's last Eden'
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On Meghan’s first ever wildlife safari for her 36th birthday, the couple watched the sun set behind a spectacular vista of acacia thorn trees and green-backed herons fishing in the river.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5140331/Luxury-Botswana-camp-set-stage-Harry-Meghan.html#ixzz509yXdEYz
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See, the timeline's off.

Called the media 4 years ago to try and up her profile in the UK. At the time, she wasnt promoting Suits and she already had her Soho connection, having the owner drive her around London. Umm.  :cookie:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5139917/How-Meghan-Markle-saved-Ashley-Cole.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 03, 2017, 04:12:17 am
But we're supposed to believe all of this happened organically? M'kay.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Maya on December 03, 2017, 08:55:22 am
^ great point  :flower:

even organic produce are nurtured in manure and right now so much spreading of  :BS: I was incorrect to ever think H an honest broker.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 03, 2017, 11:24:08 am
Harry made out that it was some kind of homespun camping trip when they were actually in a £1000+ per night house  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Maya on December 03, 2017, 12:55:52 pm

@Buflesse it's typical of the do as I say and not as I do attitude of an out of touch elite in Britain.  It's hard to achieve meritocracy in a country still playing the postcode lottery and subsiding the already economically privileged.  There is heavily and systematically entrenched inequality throught Britain and going on jollies just proves that for years the Party Prince narrative really is the true person behind the mask. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in the nations pressrooms at present.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 03, 2017, 03:09:35 pm
^  :thumbsup:

I don't think the class obsession is as entrenched in people anywhere as it is in Britain (talking mainly about Europe, incl other monarchies in Europe; India is on a par with Britain imo; not even the strict Japanese are like that!).

Amazing how they could keep such a straight face while telling all these lies. The article on Ashley Cole and M says a lot.
Having two dates and going then on a "camping" trip to Botswana straight afterwards? I wonder what she really thought of him when she met him and made that trip. And she was still with Corey at the time and living in his house if I'm not mistaken. Just wow, they make W&K look like a fairytale romance and we all know that one was fckd up  :-

PS Why do they always pretend they went "camping" but actually were at a resort? Same with Bill? Why? Just looked at the pics. Chels was there first with him  :tehe: 8) I don't understand why they make it out to be camping when it has nothing to do with camping? Do these people even know what camping is??


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 03, 2017, 03:27:53 pm
^Their version of camping is our version of "glamping."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 03:40:58 pm
'I still haven't warmed to her': Chrissie Swan admits she's NOT a fan of Prince Harry's fiancée Meghan Markle because she thinks the actress is 'portraying a concocted humility'
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'It's her manner. She looks like she's performing,' explained Swan.
'To me she looks like she's portraying a concocted humility. Acting.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5140655/Chrissie-Swan-isnt-fan-Meghan-Markle.html#ixzz50DDcvuNe
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Meghan Markle was 'made to stuff her bra' on Deal Or No Deal and was inspected by a producer every morning to make sure she had not gained weight

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BS. Those are implants.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2017, 04:07:43 pm
^I came to Jesus with Sparkle when I felt the Jodi Arias vibe.  She ticks every box in the Arias Playbook.  Just not sure how much psycho we've got here.  But, the "I don't know why but I just can't warm to her" is not uncommon and it's instinctual.

From sexual prowess/controlling behavior, then embellishment and exaggeration of accomplishments, will change belief systems to attain goal, discard useless friends/people for ambition/goal, then right down to finding a dumb oaf like PH, it's a classic recipe.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 04:52:15 pm
Harry and Meghan's wedding will boost UK economy by £500MILLION and improve special relationship with the US

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5140641/Harry-Meghans-wedding-boost-UK-economy-500m.html#ixzz50DWqVmcW
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 :tehe: She's a woman with a big mouth and dubious character who made it clear she'd move from the US if Trump became president. Now that he is, and her moving to London, so she thinks she is, this union won't do anything for the relationship between the 2 countries.

Meghan Markle's family confirm her father 'WILL walk her down the aisle' despite his leg injury - but he still hasn't met Harry

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5141075/Meghans-father-walk-aisle.html#ixzz50DXajQxo
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They all seem to have dubious backgrounds that include trouble with the IRS. I could be wrong, but they won't get entry into the UK if they have crminal records. Anyway, this shouldn't get as far as an actual wedding not with all the stuff that Mehgan has to do regarding getting a spouse visa and changing her name. As sid before, I don't think that this engagement's legal because she used her stage name n the announcement, not her actual legal name.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on December 03, 2017, 04:54:40 pm
Tired of all this already.  May can't come soon enough.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 03, 2017, 05:36:05 pm
^^ M can boost the economy like K did?  :yeahright: :eightball: :wellduh:

^ Me too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 06:01:00 pm
Dickie dismising May 25th as a date for the wedding.
https://twitter.com/RoyalDickie?lang=en

Richard palmer's saying that Mehgan will return to the US, but will attend Sandringham for Christmas.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter

It's nauseating to see this slapper acting like she's so saintly with her fake smile and syrupy act. Chatter is thaat the ring's cheap with either fake or very low grade diamonds.
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Richard Palmer‏Verified account @RoyalReporter  18h18 hours ago
More
 Only just spotted that, just as Harry and Meghan arrived in Nottingham on Friday, Buckingham Palace announced Prince Andrew was replacing his father as Colonel of the Grenadier Guards.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter
I'm tired of this blowhard getting jobs he doesn't deserve. This Mehgan/harry crap's really covering up what should be reported. Don't be surprised though if Mehgan's extra activity doesn't have something to do with Andrew and his sex scandal.

Bit of an odd question, but Harry seems to put his hand on his chest alot whenever he's around her. Could that be a signal to his mates that this is all bs or could he be just trying to stay calm.

Dickie's daughter stating the truth.
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Victoria Arbiter‏Verified account @victoriaarbiter  19h19 hours ago
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 Well, Harry & Meghan's guest list seems to be diminishing rapidly as "friends" & "family" cash in by selling photos and stories. #Rotters #crossedoffthelist
https://twitter.com/victoriaarbiter


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 03, 2017, 07:59:57 pm
I honestly don't see the handful of people fanning out about this engagement actually flying over to be a part of the festivities or even purchasing the tat that will come along with it. Even with her being American, there isn't as much buzz here about this as there was when Will & Kate got engaged. Considering there is no bank holiday and no London venue, the Firm isn't even throwing as much effort behind this as with other weddings.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2017, 08:41:28 pm
Harry 'wanted a celebrity wife': Prince told friend 'only someone already in the public eye would be able to handle relationship with a senior royal' BEFORE he met Meghan
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The Prince had previously told the Sunday Times: 'If or when I do find a girlfriend, I will do my utmost best to ensure that me and her can get to the point where we're actually comfortable with each other, before the massive invasion that is inevitably going to happen into her privacy.'

So far it seems that Harry has kept his word - after he made an extraordinary statement in November last year condemning the 'wave of abuse and harassment' that Ms Markle had faced since rumours of the pair's relationship first surfaced.
He lashed out at media intrusion and the 'sexism and racism of social media trolls' in a statement which said 'this is not a game - it is her life and his' and that he is 'deeply disappointed that he has not been able to protect her'.
Speaking of Ms Markle, a source told the Sunday TImes:'Yes, she's giving up a lot, her career and even her own charity work, but if there's any fear that the palace might get its claws into her or that she ends up being shaped by the system, as others have been before her, that won't happen.

The insider added: 'She's her own person, she's not going to crumble under the weight and glare of it all.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5141451/Prince-Harry-predicted-relationship-Meghan-Markle.html
This article is contrary to what's needed to be his wife as she's supposed to support him and in turn support his brother. If that was the case, the list of actresses in the article would've fit the bill. Also, the fact that Meghan complained and had her lawyers draw up the statement proves that the article makes no sense.
I guarantee that Trump will tweet and make fun of her as the DM continues to report unflattering but true articles about her. When she's stuck in the US trying to get her visa, the press will print articles about her anti-Trump views and anti-Brexit.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 03, 2017, 08:51:12 pm
^That forging her own path/bucking the system mess is not gonna fly with this bunch.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 03, 2017, 09:43:01 pm
^^ This is clearly the DM with yet another false headline. Harry didn't say and has never said that he was after a celebrity girlfriend. What he did say was that he needed someone by his side who would be able to deal with the public spotlight. Chelsy disliked it and never wanted a Royal life anyway, and, as Ingrid Seward said, Cressida B couldn't cope with being criticised by strangers.

 A Royal wife has to be able to cope with the constant paps and photographers, with meeting strangers on Royal engagements and with the never ending headlines about one's private life. Waity did it by clinging on like a limpet to the main objective for eight years, Meghan is able to because of her profession. That doesn't mean that they can't be supportive. Diana was overwhelmed by unprecedented public adulation but tried to be supportive only Charles couldn't stand his wife being more popular than himself. That was his failing. At Nottingham it seemed to me that Harry and Meghan supported each other.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 03, 2017, 09:44:18 pm
What exactly did she lie about and by the way I think he is making a big mistake. He really needs to know her better before he marries her but I guess the time clock is ticking cuz she is not getting any younger.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 03, 2017, 10:52:46 pm
Dickie dismising May 25th as a date for the wedding.
https://twitter.com/RoyalDickie?lang=en

Richard palmer's saying that Mehgan will return to the US, but will attend Sandringham for Christmas.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter

It's nauseating to see this slapper acting like she's so saintly with her fake smile and syrupy act. Chatter is thaat the ring's cheap with either fake or very low grade diamonds.
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Richard Palmer‏Verified account @RoyalReporter  18h18 hours ago
More
 Only just spotted that, just as Harry and Meghan arrived in Nottingham on Friday, Buckingham Palace announced Prince Andrew was replacing his father as Colonel of the Grenadier Guards.
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter
I'm tired of this blowhard getting jobs he doesn't deserve. This Mehgan/harry crap's really covering up what should be reported. Don't be surprised though if Mehgan's extra activity doesn't have something to do with Andrew and his sex scandal.

Bit of an odd question, but Harry seems to put his hand on his chest alot whenever he's around her. Could that be a signal to his mates that this is all bs or could he be just trying to stay calm.

Dickie's daughter stating the truth.
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Victoria Arbiter‏Verified account @victoriaarbiter  19h19 hours ago
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 Well, Harry & Meghan's guest list seems to be diminishing rapidly as "friends" & "family" cash in by selling photos and stories. #Rotters #crossedoffthelist
https://twitter.com/victoriaarbiter

I disagree. Meghan has been scrutinized by the royals and I doubt she's in any "scandal" re: Andrew's scandals.

She is not a "slapper."

Why wouldn't she smile? Is she supposed to have scowled?

I doubt the royals give "cheap" jewelry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lilaclavender on December 04, 2017, 02:18:08 am
I find the comments on the Ashley Cole article to be most interesting/insightful. Usually DM comment sections are a bunch of tedious fluff, and I usually come here to get dots connected...but I've been compelled to read through most of these. (Though I do not have enough posts under my belt to permit entry in to the often locked Markle forums before, so I may have missed a lot!)

Wondering what the many references to implications about Soho house are about, though I can kind of imagine.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5139917/How-Meghan-Markle-saved-Ashley-Cole.html?mrn_rm=rta-fallback


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 02:34:24 am
^the DM has been hinting at her extra activities for a while now.  :cookie:
Will Meghan and Harry have a wedding cake made of BANANAS? Prince loves 'anything' with the fruit and the couple 'want it in their ceremonial showpiece'
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Suits star Miss Markle, 36, set tongues wagging when she posted a picture on Instagram of two bananas spooning, with the caption 'sleep tight xx', 13 months ago.
But after the ceremony, the wedding party and guests will be tucking into more than just the traditional fruit bake.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5142265/Will-Meghan-Harry-wedding-cake-BANANAS.html#ixzz50FqazJ8z
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lilaclavender on December 04, 2017, 02:52:12 am
^the DM has been hinting at her extra activities for a while now.  :cookie:
Will Meghan and Harry have a wedding cake made of BANANAS? Prince loves 'anything' with the fruit and the couple 'want it in their ceremonial showpiece'
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Suits star Miss Markle, 36, set tongues wagging when she posted a picture on Instagram of two bananas spooning, with the caption 'sleep tight xx', 13 months ago.
But after the ceremony, the wedding party and guests will be tucking into more than just the traditional fruit bake.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5142265/Will-Meghan-Harry-wedding-cake-BANANAS.html#ixzz50FqazJ8z
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Ah, ok. Thanks Windsor. I've been a bit out of the loop on reading over there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 04:31:59 am
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Meghan Markle is used to star billing, but the American actress must get used to an uncredited role in The Firm.
Although she was the big attraction at her first public engagement on Friday, she failed to gain a mention in the Court Circular, the official record of royal events.
It read merely: ‘Prince Henry of Wales this morning met members of the public outside the National Justice Museum, Nottingham.’
A courtier tells me: ‘Ms Markle will not be included until after their wedding.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5142335/Beaming-Chelsy-Davy-Cressida-Bonas-dazzle-black.html#ixzz50GJZXG00
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Umm.  :cookie:  She should already be in the States, well hopefully she is now, so the fun can really begin. She's supposed to stay there for 12 consecutive weeks.
I'm just glad that the press is ramping up the snark regarding her.
Her skin treatment whilst traveling. her skin looks pretty bad considering all of the treatments she calims to have. She looks really unhinged and manic now; the engament walk and interview and the first walkabout.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5136939/Meghan-Markle-reveals-remedy-calls-cure-all.html

 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2017, 11:10:49 am
^Kate wasn't mentioned in the CC either when she was engaged to William and accompanied him to various engagements. It's just not the custom to mention fiancees.

I don't think Meghan looked manic on any of those occasions, nor did the Royal correspondents or more importantly, the people of Nottingham, who welcomed her wholeheartedly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 04, 2017, 11:19:31 am
Kate wasn't invited to Sandringham but Meghan is. I don't know how Meghan can stomach that she put her best actressy foot forward and she's not going to be officially recognized. With KP it's easy - cry to Harry , Harry writes a memo to fix it, but with the Court Circular who not once but twice neglected her appearances ... She's loosing her cry on cue edge I think.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 04, 2017, 02:30:33 pm
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Meghan Markle is used to star billing, but the American actress must get used to an uncredited role in The Firm.
Although she was the big attraction at her first public engagement on Friday, she failed to gain a mention in the Court Circular, the official record of royal events.
It read merely: ‘Prince Henry of Wales this morning met members of the public outside the National Justice Museum, Nottingham.’
A courtier tells me: ‘Ms Markle will not be included until after their wedding.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5142335/Beaming-Chelsy-Davy-Cressida-Bonas-dazzle-black.html#ixzz50GJZXG00
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Umm.  :cookie:  She should already be in the States, well hopefully she is now, so the fun can really begin. She's supposed to stay there for 12 consecutive weeks.
I'm just glad that the press is ramping up the snark regarding her.
Her skin treatment whilst traveling. her skin looks pretty bad considering all of the treatments she calims to have. She looks really unhinged and manic now; the engament walk and interview and the first walkabout.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-5136939/Meghan-Markle-reveals-remedy-calls-cure-all.html

 

I see a lot of favorable comments about Meghan. Sometimes the DM likes "click bait" articles. She does not look unhinged and manic. They are going to get married.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 03:33:37 pm
I take back what I said earlier about PH needs to get to know MM better before marrying her. Her living with a guy for 6 years did not make for a good marriage, so I guess knowing someone really is irrelevant in many cases. It's just how it works out between the two. This could be a fantastic marriage. Time will tell. And I must say one thing it really makes me realize Anything is Possible. So maybe really good things will come in the future even though we think it's impossible. Maybe USA Will Survive Trump. Good luck to the couple and the UK.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 03:44:18 pm
Sandy is right they will get married. I could only see one thing that would stop this wedding short of some illness. They have lost their minds and invite Trump to the wedding. Obama will go as he is buddies with PH now. The people will riot over Trump and the wedding will be interrupted. Short of that, it is a go. Sorry for bringing Trump into this. Won't do it again.   Thank you for this forum and allowing me to share my thoughts.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 03:50:47 pm
^^ That's true, there are no guarantees, some marry after 10 years and divorce months later, others marry literally days after meeting and stay happily married for the rest of their lives. The problem though is that this is not an ordinary marriage, much more is at stake and divorcing just like that isn't exactly an option (divorce is, but usually they can't just do it), it's a whole different beast and with much at stake frankly. It's a whole lifestyle change too and sth that needs loads of consideration whether someone marrying in can handle it, and this was much too short a courtship for both of them to gauge reality and living under the microscope and with the grey men and family interfering, living together etc. People knowing the system and being part of it (aristos) married in and lost their minds, so how is an outsider going to handle it, on top of that someone who's culturally so fundamentally different (said herself she's outspoken, has opinions etc and that's the biggest  bignono you can have marrying into such an institution)?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 03:59:54 pm
I totally agree with what you say. I do know a bit about the royal family as I dated Eton  boys who came to Los Angeles and attended USC with me. And I studied law in England after college when Diana hit the scene. It's going to be a big adjustment. But I think the power and wealth that she's going to marry into will intoxicate her to make it work. She just seems that type. But I will say one thing in her defense. Her mother's a touchy-feely type and she's into yoga. Yoga classes tend to be very humanitarian oriented. At least all the ones I attend. Maybe spiritual is a better word. So I think there's something in her that does care about helping and that will be an asset to Harry..  Now  if she can get him to stop shooting animals around the estates.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 04:06:43 pm
^  :thumbsup:
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Meghan's VERY surprising talents: Actress's old CV reveals she listed herself as a 'DJ, masseuse and stripper' and is a skilled circus JUGGLER

    The American actress, 36, became a hit on the TV series Suits back in 2011
    But before she landed that role, she had a number of other interesting jobs
    In the skills section of her old CV, she claimed to be good at sports, including baseball, golf, swimming, horse riding, snowboarding and baton twirling
    Most bizarrely, the LA-born bride-to-be noted her juggling and stripping skills


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5143801/Meghan-Markles-CV-lists-skills-juggler-stripper.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 04:30:07 pm
Oh now it's starting to get fun as predicted by some of you. Makes me wonder if she could run for a US office with her background..probably nowadays.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 04, 2017, 04:32:39 pm
her background isn't that bad . its not like she a alleged alleged pedo or murder someone.

FURY as US comedian launches shameless attack on Theresa May and Prince Harry

US comedian Kate McKinnon has sparked fury after launching a shameless attack on Theresa May and Prince Harry.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/887895/Theresa-May-Prince-Harry-Kate-McKinnon-Saturday-Night-Live


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2017, 04:35:16 pm
^That's quite the high bar we're setting lately.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 04:37:59 pm
No she's not a convicted Criminal. She has good qualities too. And I imagine in Harry's secret requirements for a wife stripping might be one of them. I mean Kate use to flash. But I don't think women politicians can afford that kind of a background to get elected yet. Always seems much more rigid a stand for women than men.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2017, 04:40:48 pm
And which particular circus did Meghan juggle at? People fib on CVs all the time. If she had been a stripper or masseuse both clients, employers and fellow strippers would have been coming out of the woodwork for cash  in their dozens in the past year. The fact that they haven't, in spite of the British tabloids desparately digging for dirt everywhere, indicates that there's nothing there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 04:45:37 pm
^^^^ & ^^^ That 1st line made me laugh so hard!!  :laugh: high bar indeed  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 04, 2017, 04:47:05 pm
I think so too. The fact that she can strip doesn't mean she actually did it. Probably put it on her CV to spice it up a bit.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 04, 2017, 04:48:07 pm
those are her skills /talents i dont think she meant she had a job doing any of those things . those things shes pretty good at and to spice her acting CV up cause they will ask what talent she has so she has to spice it up a bit


Meghan Markle's a Jill of all trades ... at least according to an old acting resume that lists a VERY wide range of talents.
The British Royal-to-be's resume, obtained by TMZ, seems to be from before her days on "Suits" ... listing her TV credits on "Fringe" and "Cuts" from years before. It also lists her role as Hot Girl in the 2005 film, "A Lot Like Love."
But the real interesting stuff about Prince Harry's new fiancée is in the Skills section ... where Markle boasts she's proficient in just about every sport, including baseball, golf, swimming, horseback riding, snowboarding and even baton twirling.
Meghan also claims she's well-versed in more than a dozen forms of dance, speaks 3 languages, sings pop and country and plays guitar, drums ... and finger cymbals.
She's also got some circus skills (juggling) and has a few miscellaneous titles ... DJ, masseuse and stripper.
No wonder Harry put a ring on it.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/04/meghan-markle-acting-resume-many-talents-stripping-juggling/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 04:49:18 pm
It could be that the stripping is meant for roles in films. Some parts require that type of talent. I would be awful...too self conscious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 04, 2017, 04:53:55 pm
the bar can always get lower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1tFj8v0I6Y


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 04, 2017, 04:56:17 pm
^^Same with the juggling, I think she just wanted something funny/odd on her cv to lighten it up a little.  :bored:
To stand out from the gazezilion prettyfaces out there in LA.
And it's a sure way to know a employer actually read your CV, they will def comment on it during application talk. lol
Besides I too have 'massage skills' listed under my various other talents on my cv, did a 4week course on it once (I sux at stripping though... ;) )


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 05:06:19 pm
OMG!!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 05:21:49 pm
Let's just hope Weinstein never had one of her CVs in his hands, he may have asked her to show & prove her skills :spy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2017, 05:29:05 pm
^^^Stripping, juggling and masseuse are not exactly unusual in the entertainment industry.  Actual work history is what catches the eye.  This is vertical filed under  “not another one!”.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 05:45:48 pm
It's unreal the low bar that's been set with her. She's a schemer and a hustler and that was demonstrated clearly with her interview and her merchandising on her first official engagement with Harry. Excuse me if I believe based in her actual actions that she's not fit for royalty and acts and carries herself like the wannabe star she think she is who's ok with lying/exaggerating or whatever and doing product placement when it's not allowed. If they marry, the royal family will have allowed any one and sundry to use them for commercial gain because it was ok for Meghan to have done so. IMO, one can say she can do what she wants, but as she's supposedly Harry's fiancé, she should've stopped her merchandising and lying. She didn't so as far as I'm concerned, that's proof that she doesn't know what being a future member of the royal family entails. Wouldn't Harry have talked to her about this? That's why the entertainment industry and royal don't mix; one's for the enhancement of themselves whilst royalty works for the people who they rely on to keep them in their lavish position.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 04, 2017, 06:06:14 pm
Oh I cannot wait for them to tear a strip off her. If she thinks Harry can protect her then she is mistaken. Go up against PC or Princess Anne and she'll be humbled soon.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 06:24:30 pm
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1 December 2017
Kensington Palace

Prince Henry of Wales this morning met members of the public outside the National Justice Museum, Nottingham, and was received by Her Majesty's Lord-Lieutenant of Nottinghamshire (Sir John Peace).

His Royal Highness afterwards visited the Terrence Higgins Trust's charities fair for World AIDS Day at the Contemporary Exhibition Centre, Weekday Cross, Nottingham.

Prince Henry of Wales this afternoon visited members of staff and students from the Full Effect Project at Nottingham Academy, Ransom Drive, Mapperley, Nottingham.
https://www.royal.uk/court-circular?text=&mrf=2918&date%5Bmin%5D%5Bdate%5D=4%2F12%2F2016&date%5Bmax%5D%5Bdate%5D=4%2F12%2F2017&id=
No mention of the box office star, Meghan.  

From mastering the dress code to her over-enthusiastic wave, etiquette expert William Hanson reveals what Meghan got right (and wrong) during her first public appearances with Prince Harry
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Her first official engagement on Friday saw her perfect the dress code, but she was seen striding out in front of her future husband - in a significant breach of royal protocol.

It should be Harry who walks ahead, as a 'blood member' of the royal family, with Meghan walking a few steps behind.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5143293/William-Hanson-reveals-cheat-sheet-Meghan.html
Comments from American are funny because on the one hand, they scoff at the changes that she'll have to make to be a member of the royal family and at the same time like the idea of an American princess. It makes no sense.
Anyway, how is she going to learn the ropes if she has to be in America to do her visa paperwork?
Wendy Williams is no joke. She tells it like it is and doesn't give two ***** about the fallout. She takes no prisoners and won't let up on her the longer this goes on and Meghan's still doing product placement and other things.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2017, 06:31:45 pm
Kensington Palace is quoting from the Court Circular. Fiancees aren't mentioned in the CC even when they accompany their fiances to an official engagement. Kate wasn't ever mentioned there when she accompanied Prince William to several engagements before they married. Neither was Sophie. The first time these engaged women (or men) appear in the CC is after they marry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 06:45:24 pm
Ok, at the end of the day, having an attention seeking, lying, self serving actress join the House of Windsor isn't something I as a Brit see as a good idea for the longevity of the institution as it's taking it into celebrity gossip, reality show realm. I also don't respect Harry for playing games throughout the duration of this affair and then lashing out at the press via her statement and acting like he wants nothing to do with her and allowing her to use him and the royal family for her commercial gain. Where does he think he's going to go with her as his partner? His image and trustworthiness has taken a dive. I still believe and hope that this is a joke somehow because there's too much oddness going on for me to fully believe that this is the real deal. Maybe this is the new monarchy the younger Windsor's want where being a celebrity and living like them is more the game. It's funny but at the same time sad that things have come to this. There must be a punchline somewhere because this farce is surely a joke.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 04, 2017, 06:54:27 pm
I do think Princess Diana would be happy with this engagement as this further cuts the royalty down. She she wanted to unravel it and it is being run through her sons.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 07:01:31 pm
One good thing out of this engagement is that she has to be stuck in America to do her paper work and will be at the mercy of the free press. She's not getting protected now as the British press is unleashing on her and the American media will hopefully finish her off. She could call off this dog and pony odd engagement before she finds out that she'll have a very hard time with the visa issues, imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 04, 2017, 07:12:01 pm
TMZ removed the CV story .DM still have it up I'm sure their next. harry and meghan will be putting in a complaint


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 04, 2017, 07:30:03 pm
This marriage is going through. They want to marry and they will no matter what the press does. The American media is for Meghan. She's on countless covers of American Magazines and she is being praised.

lesken, Diana did not want to unravel the royal family. I think if you have to blame someone, blame Charles. His marrying the mistress lowered the bar on consorts forever.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 04, 2017, 07:37:18 pm
the same picture more with different views. the same pictures from different angles

Harry and Meghan - How did they first meet?
Harry fans:  introduced  by Trudeau wife or another important woman /romantic stars /meeting was at a political dinner/ In Canada
other vison:  introduced  by Mark / she was waiting for him in the bedroom / blind date / SOHO HOUSE

Meghan is a woman -
Harry fans: feminist (ONU )  / ambitious
other vision: a social climber , she left Cory for a richer man- she changed her religion, again , to please a man - she left her job -
she 'dropped' her dog  (:sob:) because of a man - she finished with the blog and the clothes / car contract because of a man

Meghan is a woman -
Harry fans: she's hardworking (successful actress - businesswoman - fashionblog -)
other vision: she's a narcissist, so of course she wants to be working (to be to be 'loved' and idolized and admired)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 04, 2017, 08:00:56 pm
^So as always it will not be black or white but grey. I don't think she is evil and neither is Kate.

I think Meghan will be good for gossip. She is not the best wife for a royal prince but it's not like Harry or his family do deserve their position it's just they were born lucky. As always them marrying Meghan, Kate or nearly every other consort be it male or female makes their position even more ridiculous.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 08:20:11 pm
More like Harry the honey to Meghan's bee as her whole family seems to be swarming round and bragging about going to anyone that'll listen. Harry lost his right to complain the minute he was cool with her yapping to the press especially after the VF article, so that shouldn't happen unless he's really going for laughs as this whole affair comes off like a bad comedy romcom movie anyway.
EXCLUSIVE: 'Do you know Meghan Markle? I'm her dad!' Thomas Markle, 73, lives in a very un-royal beachfront hideaway in a Mexican resort where he boasts to friends about being the father of Prince Harry's fiancée
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5144901/Meghan-Markles-father-lives-secluded-life-Mexico.html
Look who finally crawled out of hiding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 04, 2017, 08:25:35 pm
It's not like he was looking for the DM. This makes me sad I don't think he really wants the attention or will know how to deal with it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 04, 2017, 08:29:21 pm
DM didn't rest untill they found him . hurry up May so this wedding can be over with.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2017, 08:42:43 pm
You wanna know what else is stupid about this?  I get that they’re in the high heat of passion so they can’t keep their hands off each other but it’s simply not sustainable, which is why it would have been smart to not do all that clingy crap.  Because, when it calms down, and it will, then the media will pounce with, “Is there trouble in paradise?” stuff.

That is why HM and Co have always kept their personal feelings behind a serene wall.  It doesn’t allow for any interpretation.

And it’s also nauseating.  There’s that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 04, 2017, 08:49:36 pm
Well either way I think they can't win with some. If they did little PDA then there would be unfavorable comments like "see he's bored with her already". I don't see them as that clingy in any case, some hand holding but not passionate kisses for the media.  To me it looked more like two high school students going steady than a hot and heavy couple. It's an awkward situation in any case making comments to millions of people around the world.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 04, 2017, 09:02:47 pm
I'm starting to think that certain elements(TPTB?) want to scare Meghan away and will stop at nothing until she's out. Her dad is a reclusive pensioner who suffers from ill health and now EVERYONE knows where he lives, his full adress and even the cars he drives. This cannot be good for him at all. Also, the stripper and the DJ thing turned out to be answers to the question if there were skills she could easily master if script required it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2017, 09:17:57 pm
Scathing comments, but what would he expect when attached to Meghan who before Harry actually had an ok image like most actors do until they become too ambitious and step on too many toes.
 
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Herewego..., Doesntmatter, United States, 36 minutes ago
Please check out blind item #2 for today in CDAN. Harry you fool.
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Friendofengland, New York, United States, 36 minutes ago
He wants to keep her out of the public since there's so much bad press coming out. What will KP and BP do to improve her image? The cat is out of the bag. More dram to come.
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cparkere, New York, United States, 40 minutes ago
Camera loving Meghan stayed home after her past as stripper and masseuse cough cough came out. How many casting couches is what I want to know
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SurfnSand, Sydney, Australia, 11 minutes ago
Looks like the Windsor¿s have got their lawyers at work, with articles being removed in Britain but they can¿t stop other countries writing about it
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PS, Toronto, Canada, 8 minutes ago
LOOK UP before it's removed, "Grilling Never Looked So Hot with Meghan Markle" on Vimeo. Interesting video of Harry's beloved.
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PS, Toronto, Canada, moments ago
DAILY MAIL JUST DELETED THEIR ARTICLE entitle "Meghan's VERY surprising talents..." and is not longer accepting comments on many of MM articles. Hmm. WHY DM?! So in the interests of full disclosure LOOK UP "Grilling Never Looked So Hot with Meghan Markle" on Vimeo before they pull that video down.
New01
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5144503/Prince-Harry-joins-London-Fire-Brigade-carol-service.html#comments-5144503
TMZ is a US outlet that I believe printed Meghan's hidden talents and other unflattering articles about her. The American press can't be dictated to and will continue to unleash because it's a money maker for them. Now there's this talk from the Canadian public/press regarding her past activities. I doubt the royal family had lawyers interfering in the DM removing that article.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 04, 2017, 09:35:52 pm
LOL the video is ridiculous. Like I can understand that she can do whatever she wants but it does not look very feminist to me...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2017, 09:40:35 pm
https://vimeo.com/71461172 (https://vimeo.com/71461172)

The grilling video.  Just more of her seductive stuff.  ^Def not pro-feminism, Alex.  Overt objectifying.

^^Yes.  The US media is fully free to print anything they like for as long as they like.  They are beyond the BRF reach completely.  What I’m sensing is a beginning backlash from them via her lack of verifiable fidelity to the minority community and the pushing down of her own ethnicity unless it’s convenient.  Sounds a bit like Hollywood backlash to me.  There have been resentment issues from, frankly, using people.  That’s from people who worked with her.  LA is a surpringly small town.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 04, 2017, 09:55:52 pm
It's a treat to watch this trainwreck  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 04, 2017, 10:26:09 pm
^^^^Aaaand the scrubbing of the past has begun! :wopedo:
Didn't take long,did it?!  :June:
But I guess due to her 'relative' new-nes in the international and brit press it won't be that much of a clean-up job for the 'grey suits'. (Unlike Kate who stuck around the tenacious pap-pack for ages, lord knows they had to go through thousands of stumbling-out-of-club-drunken pic's and dozens of kate-is-working-real-hard-articles for her! )
Might be cheaper too....less ppl to shush or discredit in her posse. :-X


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 10:47:25 pm
^ Of course! Whitewashing is very important, they forget though that once sth is on the net, it's there forever and people also don't forget that easily.  :June:
A good reminder also that if any of you want to access sth, it's a good idea to save stuff offline or even post whole articles (maybe not here, don't know how much space there is and how it works, but generally speaking).

Rachel from heavyarethecrowns saved a tonne offline and posts at requests all the time old Midd articles that aren't accessible (by ordinary means) anymore.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 04, 2017, 10:56:40 pm
The funniest thing is that we will not see pics of her first wedding...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 04, 2017, 10:57:57 pm
'I was nervous I was going to fall out of my top I was shaking around so much': Teenage Meghan Markle tells how she had to 'dance crazily' in audition for Shakira backing dancer role in unseen home video

    Footage from 1999 shows Meghan driving her car with her friend Ninaki Priddy
    The then-18-year-old brims with excitement at the prospect of making $600
    It comes two years before her first TV appearance and 12 years before Suits
    Her engagement to Harry was announced last week with a wedding set for May


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5145219/Footage-teenage-Meghan-Markle-Shakira-audition.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2017, 12:03:35 am
Kensington Palace Deploys Protection of the Crown to Meghan Markle Family Home


Once you’re in with the royal family, you’re all the way in, which is why Prince Harry‘s future mother-in-law already has Kensington Palace watching her back.

Early Monday, reporters and photographers began appearing outside the Los Angeles home of Doria Ragland, Meghan Markle‘s mother.

A security guard watching the property immediately began passing out fliers with statements from Kensington Palace advising that Ragland has already shared her reaction to the engagement and that photographs of her or her neighbors should not be taken.

https://theblast.com/kensington-palace-doria-ragland-meghan-markle/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 05, 2017, 12:23:00 am
I'm starting to think that certain elements(TPTB?) want to scare Meghan away and will stop at nothing until she's out. Her dad is a reclusive pensioner who suffers from ill health and now EVERYONE knows where he lives, his full adress and even the cars he drives. This cannot be good for him at all. Also, the stripper and the DJ thing turned out to be answers to the question if there were skills she could easily master if script required it.

That is so nervy. I see many of the (moderated) comments in the DM say to "leave the guy alone."  I don't think it is a  "scare tactic" just some greedy media people out to make a fast buck and get some "money shots."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 05, 2017, 12:57:23 am
^^  lols handing out flyers?!
Like that's gonna work on american press!
'nothing to see here, move along now chop chop!'
From what I hear some of them aren't afraid to go dumpster diving to get a story!
They call it gutter press for a reason!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2017, 01:10:04 am
^Only the Supreme Court can interfere with the US media and it would have to be a ginormous situation such as inciting an assassination or something equally explosive.  Never happen, really.  They have the Constitution behind them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2017, 01:57:25 am
^oh, yes and I say God bless America for the freedom of the press.  :thumbsup:
CULTURE > NEWS
Let the Misogynistic Public Shaming of Meghan Markle Now Commence

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced their engagement to great fanfare exactly one week ago today, but, already, in the grand tradition of treating women (both super-famous and not) like garbage, the misogynistic public shaming of Markle has begun. “Meghan Markle Resume [sic] Reveals Many Skills . . . Like Stripping and Juggling!!!,” TMZ trumpeted today (in a story that has since been taken down), citing an old, pre-Suits CV in which Markle supposedly lists “stripper” and “masseuse” among her titles. “No wonder Harry put a ring on it.” Actually, Markle may be the one marrying Prince Harry for his noted strip billiards skills—but, alas, the sexual shaming is thus far being reserved exclusively for Markle. How utterly predictable.
Since their royal engagement—a rare shot of happiness in what is often a dark, depressing news landscape—there have been copious reports painting Markle as a silly sex object who’s been plucked from obscurity by the prince rather than the accomplished activist she is. At worst, it’s flagrantly racist, like the Daily Mail “headline”: “Now That’s Upwardly Mobile! How in 150 years, Meghan Markle’s family went from cotton slaves to royalty via freedom in the U.S. Civil War.” Other times, it dredges up Markle’s less-glamorous past (her normalcy, it seems, inspires both adoration and mockery), including breathlessly reporting the fact that she formerly side-hustled as a freelance calligrapher who did the invitations for Robin Thicke and Paula Patton’s 2005 wedding, and that—OMG, LOL—in 2006 and 2007, she was a briefcase model on Deal or No Deal. There’s no shame in freelance calligraphy or game show appearances while trying to make it in Hollywood—Markle, ever-gracious, told Esquire in 2013 that the Deal gig was “in the category of things I was doing while I was auditioning to try to make ends meet.” But where are the splashy Us Weekly and TMZ headlines announcing that before Markle was a briefcase model, she was interning at the U.S. Embassy in Argentina? We’ll wait.
That’s because it’s all the more convenient to adhere to the Cinderella story that Markle is nothing more than a pretty girl (and, because, she’s biracial, somehow an extra-lucky one) than a successful 36-year-old woman who starred for seven seasons on a popular and positively reviewed cable drama—USA’s Suits—and a longtime feminist and formidable activist in her own right. Long before she was camping under the stars in Botswana with the prince, Markle was a U.N. Women advocate, an ambassador for World Vision (traveling to Rwanda for the organization’s clean water campaign), and a counselor at One Young World, speaking out about gender equality and modern slavery. “I’ve never wanted to be a lady who lunches,” she said on a trip to Afghanistan with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on a USO tour in 2014. “I’ve always wanted to be a woman who works.”
Unfortunately, that’s not how much of the public chooses to view a woman of what is now Markle’s fame (as I’m sure Kate Middleton will advise over some sherry after her royal baby number three is born). Markle was already a target. Remember that Prince Harry was all but forced to confirm their relationship and come to Markle’s defense last year after the initial racist coverage of her, including the Daily Mail headline: “Harry’s Girl Is (Almost) Straight Outta Compton: Gang-scarred home of her mother revealed—so will he be dropping by for tea?” But propping Markle up with anticipatory “when, oh when will they get engaged?” stories only to tear her down with racist and sexist narratives (see also: the absurd observation that she looked pregnant at the couple’s engagement announcement photo-call in her instantly classic white Line the Label coat) feels particularly egregious in the midst of the current #MeToo movement. Reducing an accomplished woman to a mere sex object in the press is part of the same toxic culture that pays women less than men and habitually harasses them at work.
But try as people may to degrade her—and they will continue to—Markle doesn’t appear to be having it. She’s pledged to keep doing important philanthropic work—she and Harry’s first public appearance together as an engaged couple was to mark World AIDS Day—and drowning out the nonsensical noise. “Of course, it’s disheartening,” she said during the couple’s first interview together, in which she was asked about the scrutiny of her race. “You know, it’s a shame that that is the climate in this world to focus that much on that . . . at the end of the day . . . we have never put any focus on that. We’ve just focused on who we are as a couple,” she said. “I think it makes it really easy to just enjoy being together and tune all the rest of that out.”
https://www.vogue.com/article/meghan-markle-misogynistic-public-shaming
How utterly stupid. She's selling herself as the hot sexy girl in most of her roles, so she's to blame for her image, not the press who's reporting on her choices. She seems to continue this role in real life, so as a so called feminist, she should own up to it. She must believe that Harry and the British royal family hae an obligation to halt all press that rightly deule what she's about. As a potential member of a family that represent the British public, the Brits have every right to know what she is and what she's about. Now Harry should get used to seeing his Mehgan in the press on a daily basis having her poor decisions come back to haunt her. He chose to sleep with a dog and now he has to deal with her flees. Things have gone from bad, the engagement, to worse, for Mehgan as she seems to be getting it from all sides from both sides of the pond. oh well, don't *despise* the game, *despise* the players. IMO, Harry could be raising her to the heights so that her fall will be spectacular. That what it seems to me now, but we'll have to see what's what.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2017, 02:26:23 am
^The truth of it is that all this does is make Harry more defensive of her and protective.  He is blind to everything right now.  He doesn't see a person who made her way out of a broken home by using every means possible to achieve her goals.  Some of that is good but she, unlike maybe kinder people, became cold, calculating and ruthless in her treatment of others.  She believes all her own fantasies about herself to protect them and herself.  Half truths and even lies come all too easy for her. 

Telling stories and make believe is as much a part of her as is breathing.  You simply cannot be in the work she has been in without having that as a part of you.  It just is very hard to discover who the real Meghan is.  But, anyone who can use people for their own gain is not somebody I can respect or admire.  Not ever.  And I've heard and seen enough to know just how swiftly she can cut people off or misrepresent them to her own advantage.

The good news is, if all of this is true, it always catches up with a person.  Or, they can change.  I do believe that and when I see evidence of it, I'll cut her some slack but I'm not holding my breath.

Harry's a bit of a mess himself so it's still a train wreck waiting to happen unless a miracle intervenes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 05, 2017, 02:29:19 am
^^ she seems to have a very warped opinion of what feminism is  8) she just loves to objectify herself, can't help it I'm sure  lol

^ I doubt the real meghan is to be found anymore


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2017, 02:37:32 am
This could be true. She doe have ratty clothes sense.
https://twitter.com/ukhistorygirl/status/937060638853038080

Yooper, harry is a mess, but he was a mess when he had the good sense to dismiss women that even hinted at knowing him like Molly King. i keep bringing her up because she was quite harmless in what she did than Mehgan. He seems to have somewhat of a good judge of charater about people and them using him, otherise it makes no sense to galavant with a user and a fake like Mehgan. Look at all of the trouble her presense has caused. Harry's close to Wills and if he were truly with her behind the scenes/privately as he wants people to believe during that idiotic interview, than Will wouldn't have made sure she got booted off the polo ground earlier this year. It'd make sense if this is for a bigger reason. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2017, 02:49:28 am
^Something tells me that Harry's family love him more than any concerns they have about Sparkles.  I would be shocked if they didn't present their concerns.  Especially PW.  That guy is living one of the biggest mistakes he's ever made.  So, I think as much protection is in place as possible for Harry, the love struck adolescent, and they've already toned down the wedding and so on so it's clear they are aware of what they're dealing with.  He'll learn!  It just stinks he has to learn it on the backs of the taxpayers. My hope is that they've locked that up, too, and expect Harry to foot the major portion of this fiasco.

I kinda believe it, too, that somebody threw out her clothes.  Or hope so.  She is A Project in big neon lights.  At least those ratty jeans.  She's got a lot to learn about who's really in charge and it isn't she.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2017, 03:20:16 am
I agree that Harry's well loved by his family. I still have a hard time believing that he's taken by this chanced, Mehgan. I know that powerfull families are protected by special security, so it wouldn't be far fetched to believe that Mehgan's messed with some powerful people during her Soho house activities ad this "engagement" is a way to protect them by exposing her to the world. Remeber articles kept saying that Harry and her conducted their romance at Soho houses around the world.  :cookie: Anyway, the press continues to fire bombs at her and exposing her past/present; her merchandising during her first engagement with the bag was priceless.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 05, 2017, 03:28:17 am
lol  :flower:

This person reminds me of certain people on Tumblr - through? I wonder how these accounts originate. Seriously, I would love to know that.

She, her friends, etc are just like Wasty and her family  - they see the fame, adoration, money, clothes and attention and always thought they could dictate the terms. I hope these are really happening behind the scenes, and happening fast. You protect your family, yes, and sometimes have to let them take their own lumps.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2017, 03:31:50 am
^Yes, indeed.

^^As obnoxiously cliche as this is, it truly applies.  Where Harry is concerned, Love is Blind.  Plus, he's stubborn and not fully matured, really.  No mature person would be this bull headed and goofy.  He'd be much more composed and not so desperate-looking in his high school love hinjinx.  He'd also listen to her baloney and call it out but maybe it's a big act?  I don't know.  I just know he's determined to do this thing and the chips will fall where they will.

My job is to get as many laughs out of it at her expense as I can, while I can.  Here's hoping they've locked up the money and at least think that Harry's paying for this misadventure on his own.  



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 05, 2017, 03:34:36 am
Royal Central has chimed in reporting that Meghan will spend Xmas and Boxing Day at Sandringham with the Queen and then Harry and Meghan will go to Doria in California for New Years Day.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/meghan-markle-to-spend-christmas-with-the-queen-at-sandringham-92720


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 05, 2017, 03:38:20 am
New Year's in the U.S.  - oh, very swift, Harry. The American press on New Year's, the heavy security costs... oh, just leave us alone and let us love each other in peace!!!!!  :easter-sly:  :o  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2017, 03:47:55 am
^Oh, no!  Seriously, this will make it a nightmare for everyone in her area.  Leave us alone is absolutely correct.  Fly mummy over instead, please!  We don't want any part of this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 05, 2017, 03:57:05 am
Royal Central has chimed in reporting that Meghan will spend Xmas and Boxing Day at Sandringham with the Queen and then Harry and Meghan will go to Doria in California for New Years Day.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/meghan-markle-to-spend-christmas-with-the-queen-at-sandringham-92720

I'm in shock that Meghan will spend Christmas with the royals as a fiancee, given that Kate wasn't.  :o I wonder how Kate feels  :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2017, 04:19:54 am
The talk of Harry being blackmailed by her is making the rounds again. Anyone who blackmails the royal family won't come out of it without their lives ruined. Why would this dummy try and do that. One thing's for sure, it'll look like Harry's rebelling but "the grey men"/spooks are in charge, imo. Now again this talk about having her around Christmas time and Harry going off to America for New Years. The Midds tried for years to go to Sandringham for Christmas and Waity never went before she was married in if I'm not mistaken. Each day goes by, more stuff comes out that shatters her image.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 05, 2017, 04:20:51 am
We don't know whether any of this reporting is true yet. KP will make a statement. William wasn't at Sandringham for Xmas 2010 either. He was in Wales with RAF Air Sea Rescue. Kate spent that Christmas with her family in Berkshire.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 05, 2017, 05:00:01 am
Royal Central has chimed in reporting that Meghan will spend Xmas and Boxing Day at Sandringham with the Queen and then Harry and Meghan will go to Doria in California for New Years Day.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/meghan-markle-to-spend-christmas-with-the-queen-at-sandringham-92720

I'm in shock that Meghan will spend Christmas with the royals as a fiancee, given that Kate wasn't.  :o I wonder how Kate feels  :shy:

Badly, we hope. Even if it's just gossip and rumour, hope it hit it's mark.  :laugh:  :Kate: :tease:

I am sure Council Caro is foaming at the mouth as we speak. lol  :screaming:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2017, 06:47:27 am
There will be a warm welcome for Meghan from the Midds for Christmas  :akasha:
I wouldn't be surprised if Kate arranged for Meghan's clothes to be thrown away ... so that she doesn't settle in too quickly. Plus, now is a good time to not get a ride from Kate to Harrods ... again.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2017, 12:39:19 pm
Meghan's childhood friend accuses newly-engaged of being ‘MANUFACTURED version of herself’
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/888162/Meghan-Markle-royal-family-engagement-Ninaki-Priddy-Los-Angeles-Shakira-Chicago-USA
She's fake, period.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 05, 2017, 01:55:43 pm
Wow, did Meghan have catty friends! But isn't she doing what Kate did with the posh accent and all that?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 05, 2017, 03:44:53 pm
Hollywood will be giving some parties for them here along with the friends they both have here. I have seen photos of Harry in the parking lots of Venice hanging out with blondes and guys before he took off. That was after Vegas scandal. So he knows people here because they all seem like they were very friendly with each other. So they will be welcomed. I wonder if they will stay with Mom in more humble style or rent a suite. Don't know what area she lives in, but LAPD are strapped with real crime and we don't need taxpyers to foot their security bill. I might write in a complaint to the Mayor. They can bring their own help.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2017, 04:28:44 pm
Humble Harry stays at a $1000 a night tent when he is going low-key. The only low-key thing they can do is Vegas wedding with an Elton John impersonator as officiant lol I'm sure that Meghan has already thought about this. Get Harry to stand up against his evil family in a Vegas gunshot wedding and no prenup so that in the end we can all enjoy the divorce proceedings .. and  US immigration jotting down all the inconsistencies in their love story.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2017, 04:53:07 pm
The Crown’s Matt Smith Says He Feels “Sorry” for Meghan Markle
The actor, who plays Prince Philip on the Netflix drama, has some insight into the complex royal life.




Matt Smith has now been in Prince Philip’s shoes for two seasons of Netflix’s The Crown and knows what it’s like to be a royal spouse—or at least act the part. On Monday night, during a talk moderated by Vanity Fair’s Mike Hogan at 92nd Street Y in New York City with co-star Claire Foy, Smith did not mince words about his feelings on the fate of Prince Harry’s royal-to-be fiancée, Meghan Markle.

“I feel sorry for her,” he said. “It’s such a transition in her life, and it’s such a huge thing to take on. Life as she knows it is gone. But hey, she’s marrying the prince of Britain—how exciting for her.”

Though he plays a fictional royal, Smith understands a thing or two about the complex life of Prince Philip, who reluctantly lived in the Queen’s shadow for the better part of his early marriage. Philip, a naval officer in the mid-20th century, had to make several sacrifices that many other husbands at the time did not. As V.F. has noted, Philip was unable to give his children his surname—a request the Queen rejected.

“I am the only man in the country not allowed to give his name to his children,” Philip said on the subject, per a biography by Sally Bedell Smith. “I’m nothing but a bloody amoeba.”


https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/12/the-crowns-matt-smith-says-he-feels-sorry-for-meghan-markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 05, 2017, 05:06:08 pm
There will be a warm welcome for Meghan from the Midds for Christmas  :akasha:
I wouldn't be surprised if Kate arranged for Meghan's clothes to be thrown away ... so that she doesn't settle in too quickly. Plus, now is a good time to not get a ride from Kate to Harrods ... again.

 read about that on tumbler, meghans clothes being thrown away, is there truth to it?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 05, 2017, 07:18:46 pm
I read from a poster somewhere or on Quora, I think , that MM is invited to the Queen's for Christmas as she doesn't have family in England. Not sure that her Mom and whatever family they have really celebrate a traditional family Christmas. She was with a Jewish man for years and in Canada for seven, so there may not be anything that special in Los Angeles for her or in Canada for that matter.  Peter's wife had a Canadian Catholic family who probably  have a traditional family celebration, so I think for engaged ones with families, they spend the last single one with the family. Then they are obligated to the RF, except William doesn't always show now with the Midds expecting him. But IMO that makes sense for her case. And on this note,  it is her lack of solid family traditions that makes her questionable as a RF wife choice. Time will tell. She is no spring chicken to adapt easily. But her desire for this may override anything else in her nature. Let's face it, many women would totally change for this chance.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CathyJane on December 05, 2017, 07:43:34 pm
I agree with your last sentence, but how many would go to such extremes at Megs age? I can understand if she was in her twenties, but at the down hill run to 40? I was so wishing this was all amedia stunt of hers to get attention and that was all.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 05, 2017, 08:14:23 pm
It's not downhill to 40 - sometimes it's women coming into their own.  That stated, Megs is still an opportunist way out of her league.
Chuck is going to be calling the shots soon so look out Markle. She has zero idea of what the Firm is all about and what's going on in the world.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 05, 2017, 10:20:12 pm
I for one would like to be there to watch when Charles attempts to preach to other people considering...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 05, 2017, 10:54:42 pm
Not downhill at all to 40. I loved the 40s. But, I was not likely to change my style easily nor my Southern California attitudes, which trust me, are quite different than the more "polite English." ( I just went to my cousin's wedding there and we are definitely different in attitudes. It was fun discussing things especially with my older cousins, but we are different.) It is easier to adjust when in our 20s. That being said, MM is very motivated to make this work, and I bet love for Harry is just one reason. Even if things get tough, my gut is she will figure it out. She looks way to GLEEFUL at her conquest. She won't be a Fergie regretting things to Ophrah. So, I think everyone is stuck with her in our face. Hopefully she will surprise us. And if not, this will just be another nail on the continuing Monarchy past HM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 05, 2017, 11:05:36 pm
Isn't it appropriate for a woman who just got engaged to look gleeful? Harry looked gleeful too. The "conquest" was mutual.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 05, 2017, 11:28:52 pm
She looked definitely look much more gleeful than Harry. But maybe that's the Southern California thing..  we're a all so gleeful acting here. My point was simply she look way too gleeful to ever let go. This is a much bigger Conquest for her than it is for Harry and nobody is going to convince me any different. She is in it for the long haul even if they run into problems in the future and that's just my opinion. Maybe they will never have any problems and we'll just be Blissful wonderful marriage.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 12:00:11 am
Harry may well think of her as a "conquest." It is not the male that is always the "prize" in the relationship.Every couple has issues or problems, that's life. No couple just sails along with no problems. If they work on the marriage that is the main thing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 06, 2017, 01:18:29 am
I for one would like to be there to watch when Charles attempts to preach to other people considering...

With how he sons turned out and the histories of their partners, he is looking VERY good in comparison.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 01:24:50 am
Charles had his own awful behavior. Being involved with his friends' wives for one thing. He is no role model. I don't think Charles looks good compared to anybody. There are degrees of awfulness. I don't think very good behavior applies to the Prince of Wales. The only thing he has going for him is he is not lazy. IMO. He is also a great deal to blame for lowering the bar of what is considered suitable in a consort--he got to marry the mistress. After that it was all downhill.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lilaclavender on December 06, 2017, 02:36:31 am
Forgive me for my ignorance, but does anyone know WHY TMZ would have removed the stripper/masseuse story, considering, I think they are a US owned site? (I assume). The only thing I can think of is an offer of money... or am I missing something? Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 02:49:30 am
^It could be because she complained.
Meghan Markle Stripper Claim NOT True
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By Holly Nicol | 7:03 am, December 5, 2017

Meghan Markle’s resume does not list “stripper” or “stripping” as one of her skills, despite an erroneous report. Gossip Cop can correct this inaccurate claim. We’re told it’s simply “untrue.”

According to TMZ, Markle is “a Jill of all trades, at least according to an old acting resume that lists a VERY wide range of talents.” The site alleges that on an old resume, which was put together before her seven-season run on “Suits,” the actress allegedly wrote some “real interesting stuff” in the skills section. “Markle boasts she’s proficient in just about every sport, including baseball, golf, swimming, horseback riding, snowboarding and even baton twirling,” writes the outlet before contending she’s “also got some circus skills (juggling) and has a few miscellaneous titles… DJ, masseuse and stripper.”

After publishing that inaccurate claim, a number of other outlets picked up the story. Celeb Dirty Laundry, for example, then embellished an article that had the headline, “Queen Elizabeth Horrified: Meghan Markle’s Resume Reveals Stripping Talents.” In its completely fabricated report, based on TMZ’s false premise, the website maintained that “negative publicity” is jeopardizing Markle’s relationship with the queen. The often discredited outlet further asserted, “These are not the kind of headlines Queen Elizabeth wants to see right now,” adding without any proof that more of “Meghan’s dirty little secrets will soon be exposed.”

Let Gossip Cop set the record straight about what’s going on here. Contrary to the published contention about the actress’s past, a source close to the bride-to-be tells us the story about Markle listing “stripper” on her resume is entirely “untrue.” Tellingly, not a single U.K. outlet reported on Markle’s alleged resume “skills,” and the inaccurate article has since been removed from TMZ’s website. As for CDL, which tends to peddle fake news stories about Markle and the royal family, it simply regurgitated the erroneous claim about her “stripping” without bothering to fact-check it, and then made it worse by manufacturing the wholly fictitious angle about the queen being “horrified.”

https://www.gossipcop.com/meghan-markle-stripper-resume-stripping-not-true/
Gossip is that she has a friend that works at the site. Who knows if that's true. Gossip Cop will debunk reports if they're paid, but they also claim that they do investigative work before they debunk articles. Isn't KP press office supposed to deal with the press for her now that she's engaged to Harry? Because some weired stuff has been going on since the engagement announcement, I still think something's going on, but I won't be 100% happy until this trollop's gone back to America into obscurity. I know that the ryal family aren't made up of people of non repute, but this is too much scraping the bottom of the barrel and goes against what Harry said he wanted in a partner.
I don't get that if she's supposed to be in America unbroken for 12 weeks doing her visa paperwork, why people are speculating that she'll be back in London for the Sentable concert this weekend I believe.
IMO, she reinds me of the movie Pretty Woman where Julia Robert's character was a prostitute who was rescued by the handsom Richard Gere who in a sense wiped the stench from her and launched her as a respectable woman. Mehgan mightve believed that Harry and the BRF will protect her secrets from the press after this engagement but it seems to have unleashed them worldwide. She's been elevated to the hieghts that now hopefully when she falls (her nasty secrets continue to come out), that it stings mightly. IMO, her, Markus and her so called stylist are con artists who use powerful people like Trudeau's wife to climb higher like the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 06, 2017, 03:10:46 am
I do think the victim angle is being well worked over lately.

I was told I wasn't pretty or thin enough': Meghan Markle reveals her battle with insecurities as she struggled to break into acting before casting director told her: 'You need to know you're enough'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5149875/How-April-Websters-advice-changed-Meghan-Markles-career.html#ixzz50RktzIm1
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I wonder if Meg will continue her UN work; after all, it would be a tiny bit of prestige for the BRF to get involved.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 03:18:45 am
What UN work?  She gave one speech or something.  She's not an ambassador.  Even if she was a heavy player with the UN, it's not apolitical and the BRF, contrary to what these new royals think, are apolitical.

I, too, am fully saturated with the endless self-victimization of Sparkles Markle.  It always ends the same with someone saying the same thing about how worthy, beautiful, strong, amazing, blah, blah she is in spite of her endless struggles against the haters.  It's balderdash.  She slept/manipulated her way up at the expense of friends, lovers, friends, the truth and co-workers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 06, 2017, 03:21:39 am
I think for her, Harry is a way to erase her past and start fresh; leave her past behind and make a fresh start.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 03:34:37 am
^true, but unlike Pretty Woman, in real life her past is coming back to bite her on the arse. This victimization bs article might be the segway to how she surfed the casting couch. Most of her roles have been about her using sex as a topic, so what she wrote about regarding the woman casting director's pretty much bs. Always wining, always playing the victim, always draging bs into her articles that her pr people most likely wrote when she was building her image as a feminist humanitarian.
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Female81, Dallas, 28 minutes ago
This is essentially told to everyone in that field.
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Jill01, NYC, United States, 32 minutes ago
Boohoo. Jeez, so much whining

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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 03:40:06 am
^^I agree.  The BRF isn't a rehab center, however.  Their energies shouldn't always be spent on damage and image control.  It'd be nice of someone came on board with some class but they don't attract that faction.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 03:55:10 am
Nope, it's down market trash all the way. No one predicted Brexit, so what makes the royal family think that people wont want them to be gone. It's bad when the queen's still alive and the majority of the people polled were indifferent to them. I like the idea of having a monarchy and what they can do for the people, but it seems with this lot, they seem to be interested in their own pleasure that their position affords them. They seem to be coddled and excused for their bad behavior instead of realize that their actions downgrade the meaning o the monarchy. IMO, Harry seems to be the only one who really has to deal with his mistakes in public. Wills' is covered up as it seems like he's scandal free, and Andrew continues to get rewards from the queen. It's sheer madness.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 08:18:13 am
I think the DM comments (some) border on defamation of character. Meghan did have an acting career but her name is being dragged through the mud. The royals are not squeaky clean.   The sleazy doings of C and C appear to be swept under the rug (by some) and I think royalists (I am not talking about this board) on the DM feel that Harry should have married someone like Cressida. But ironically, Chelsy Davy got really bashed by some and I recall really hateful comments about her weight on some of the board and now she's considered someone that Harry "should have" married.  Meghan appears to some to "threaten" the traditions of the royals but the royals are not saints by any means.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 06, 2017, 02:28:44 pm
You have a point that Megan may be threatening or seem to be threatening the traditions. She is. A Brit royal having been divorced having a big white wedding (even if it is smaller than Diana's,Fergie,Kate,Zara,etc) is breaking tradition. That's pretty over the top for the RF. That is for starters. She has a long public past. She is a Yank and down the line, that will matter somehow. It is going to be different. We are not raised with the idea of the Queen or royalty. We like the celebrity but not real meaning of the monarchy. . In fact with each worse choice this family makes, it is shredding tradition  little by little. Monarchy is becoming a big show nothing more. But maybe it has to go this path. Nothing lasts forever. Ask the Romans. Why we Yanks are in the fall as well unfortunately.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 03:59:34 pm
Well this goes back to Harry and the image he put out regarding someone who can take on the job. I don't know if he's talking about the media or the rest of it but Meghan has demonstrated that she can't handle the media, hence the statement, and since then, she seems to use the race card or anything else she could think of. Her pr was in overdrive throughout the weird relationship to keep her and Harry linked so she can continue to merchandise/get paid to publicize what she has on and play cat and mouse games. Harry indicated for years that although he'll mix with celebrities he doesn't want them to use him by dismissing women who've done vertually nothing compared to Meghan who courted the press in her VF interview and talked about Harry which is a no-no. So she's either a fall girl to use to make Waity look nice and classy because that's how some people are saying or he put out a fake image but just wants someone who loves the press. I think it's the former because someone who loves the press like Meghan does will get disappointed when it goes away as the focus returns to those above Harry in the pecking order.
'I feel sorry for her': The Crown star Matt Smith says he PITIES Meghan Markle following her engagement to Prince Harry – because 'life as she knows it is gone'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5151187/The-Crown-star-Matt-Smith-says-PITIES-Meghan-Markle.html
I certainly don't and it's not progressive to have a divorced woman marry into the royal family as Matt and others state.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 04:00:20 pm
As for any public Sparkles bad publicity, boo-frickin'-hoo.  Get used to it; it's the price of admission, baby.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 06, 2017, 04:08:13 pm
I was told I wasn't pretty or thin enough': Meghan Markle reveals her battle with insecurities as she struggled to break into acting before casting director told her: 'You need to know you're enough'

Meghan Markle's name has become known around the world since her Royal engagement was announced last week.

But the acting success that gave her the platform to mingle with stars and meet her future fiance Prince Harry may never have come around had it not been for some profound advice from legendary casting director April Webster.

Miss Markle was born in Los Angeles and had been trying to crack her way into professional acting from her mid-teens, but did not start getting regular TV work for nearly a decade.

She reveals how she was often told she was either 'too pretty or not pretty enough, or too slim or not slim enough' when auditioning for roles.

In an old article penned two years ago, which has just resurfaced, Prince Harry's wife-to-be recounts an encounter with Webster, who has hired actors for Star Wars, Mission: Impossible, Lost and countless other box office hits.

The Hollywood veteran helped her banish the insecurities that had blighted her during her early career.

Writing for Darling Magazine, Megan said she was, 'Trying to find my value in an industry that judges you on everything that you’re not versus everything that you are.

Other executives deemed her, 'Not thin enough, not pretty enough, not ethnic enough, while also being too thin, too ethnic, too pretty the very next day', Meghan wrote.
Still in her early 20s, she was struggling to come to terms how she was being viewed and the fickleness of Hollywood, and its obsession with image.

But she said her approach to finding worked changed in an instant after an encounter with Webster that allowed her to stop hiding behind materialism and be herself.

Meghan wrote: 'I had never met her before, and at my very first audition for her, she stopped me mid-scene and said so simply, “You need to know that you’re enough.”

'I was breathless. No one had ever seen it, or perhaps no one had ever called me out, but there in that small box of a room in Burbank, this woman I had never met saw me.

'My gut reaction was to smile. To smile hard. Maybe that would keep the tears tucked behind my draping eyes.

'It wouldn’t have mattered if I cried, because she saw me. She saw all that self-doubt beaming through the self-tanner and excessive blush.

'“You need to know that you’re enough,” she said.

'“Less makeup, more Meghan".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5149875/How-April-Websters-advice-changed-Meghan-Markles-career.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 04:15:01 pm
Another click bait article in the DM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 06, 2017, 04:26:00 pm
^why?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 04:30:06 pm
Every article published anywhere can be dubbed “click bait”.  I fail to get your point^.

More woe-is-me, eh?  Getting old.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 04:32:09 pm
At the end of the day, she believes she a star and most likely expects adulation like she did somewhat at Friday's engagement and when that stops she's going to blame Harry for taking her Hollywood life away from her and make more trouble to keep her in the headlines as she craves reds attention. This marriage is a recipe for disaster that although I should take it face value because it's not really worth stressing about, I still have a hard time believing that it'll go through. No one wins if it does, we'll only the tabloids and gossip sites because that's where the royal's will be discussed and not in the series press where they should be as they should be using their power and resources to help others like Harry's done with IG as his presence opened doors to the organizers who wouldn't have access such without him.
^^any mention of Meghan gets people commenting in droves and people stay on the website longer, hence increasing their advertising revenue. This "romance" is a cash cow for them and it'll be hard to let it go, so she'll be on their website as a fixture I imagine.
^the twit makes a federal case out of everything.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 04:50:27 pm
^It didn’t help having Camilla call her “a star”.  Sober up, Camz.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 04:52:49 pm
I found it odd too. Camilla could have said she is pleased and left it at that.


Every article published anywhere can be dubbed “click bait”.  I fail to get your point^.

More woe-is-me, eh?  Getting old.

What I meant was it attracts those who want to have Harry and Meghan break up. There are the same sorts of comments. The most provocative was the headline making it look like Harry went someplace with Cressida and left Meghan home. But actually it was an event where various people arrived separately. I see that as click bait.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 04:56:19 pm
^I see.  But, still.  It comes with the territory.  The girl provides a lot of ammo all on her own.  The media will use it. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2017, 05:24:20 pm
The press has been doing that for a while. Funny how there was no objection when it was said that Meghan was left in Harry's hotel room after he snuck her in and then went to the IG activity. I think that looked worse for Meghan than a headline that Harry's hanging out with his ex at a public event, imo. My point is that the press would've been board with a woman that didn't have so much ammo that Meghan brings and that Harry should actually date if he wants privacy and the press off his girlfriend's back.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 06, 2017, 05:26:36 pm
Camilla is a twit. MM is a star compared to her. Maybe she is happy to have a lower class person in the family so she can feel superior. The star was Diana.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 06, 2017, 05:27:38 pm
Maybe it's just me but I didn't take Camilla's "star" comment as a compliment.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 06, 2017, 05:30:35 pm
Maybe it's just me but I didn't take Camilla's "star" comment as a compliment.

Neither did I-the BRF doesn't take kindly to "stars". Especially from outside their circles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 06, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
If Harry loves her they can't harm her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 06, 2017, 06:25:45 pm
Maybe it's just me but I didn't take Camilla's "star" comment as a compliment.

Meghan should not trust Camilla and be careful around her. And stay away from Penny Junor. I remember how Camilla was pathetically trying to play "mother of the groom" and invited Kate to lunch and had an embarrassing lunch with her talking loudly about "advice" she had to give to Kate. I think the Queen gave Camilla the cold shoulder at Will's and Kate's wedding because of that.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 06, 2017, 06:31:26 pm
Maybe it's just me but I didn't take Camilla's "star" comment as a compliment.

Meghan should not trust Camilla and be careful around her. And stay away from Penny Junor. I remember how Camilla was pathetically trying to play "mother of the groom" and invited Kate to lunch and had an embarrassing lunch with her talking loudly about "advice" she had to give to Kate. I think the Queen gave Camilla the cold shoulder at Will's and Kate's wedding because of that.



Not to mention her taking Diana "under her wings".


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 06, 2017, 08:58:41 pm
I don't see those two affecting each other at all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 12:54:24 am
Who DOES Meghan have to curtsey to? CHRISTOPHER WILSON explains the etiquette minefield that means she will sometimes have to bend the knee to Camilla and Sophie but never to Zara
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Meghan will be expected to become swiftly au fait with who’s above, and who’s beneath, her and Harry. For his part, as guide and mentor, Harry will need to take her painstakingly through the protocol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5153729/Who-DOES-Meghan-Markle-curtsey-to.html

Harry as her guide?  :tehe:  Either she doesn't listen or was never advised on protocol because she failed a few easy rules during her first engagement. And the rules regarding curtsying can't be broken because of her being an American. Quite frankly, if this train wreck ends in a marriage, then she'll need to shut up, listen and obey because this isn't a made up Disney family, it's a real live one with ancient rules and if she doesn't like it, she doesn't have to join it.
Umm, since Harry seems to attract unsuitable women who are either in the entertainment business or want to be, then these articles showing what will be expected of Harry's wife should be a warning to them. It would be great if this whole Meghan debuckle was a warning to not use him and the royal family for their gain when this fiasco hopefully ends with her staying in the States.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 01:09:03 am
It’s interesting to me that the American men I’ve talked to (and I ask a lot) all say, regarding marrying her, “he## no”.  They have seen the type much more often perhaps.  Meghans are everywhere.  You get what you deserve in life, usually, and I don’t see Harry as such a great catch in the first place, so maybe this is the best he can do.

For US women of substance, there are much finer men from which to choose in the States.  It bears repeating that this person is not from among our best and brightest.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 01:19:45 am
Harry and William never managed to find aristos to marry.  Maybe some do not want to marry into the royal family since it seems like somewhat of a minefield. IMO anyway


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 01:35:44 am
^Excellent point.  Who would want the restrictions and that intrusive crazy lifestyle these days?  I know no one of my professional female colleagues who would find it desirable.  There’s more affluence, freedom and room for advancement with normalcy elsewhere.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 01:45:29 am
I think it could be that the astros want to swan around and pretend to be fashion darlings like Kitty Spencer and that Windsor girl. They're having too muh fun enjoying their freedom to do nothing but leisurely pursuits instead of marrying into the Windsor clan. Waity's still not flourishing after years married in because she must've thought that she'd be partying and swanning around like she did when she waited on Wills for years, imo. Mehgan's a hard user of people who loves the limelight, but Harry brings her the press for now but in the long run, the press will turn back to Wills/Waity, Camilla/Charles because those are the one's that'll make or break the monarchy. Harry and Mehgan will e treaed as a joke if they marry.
I hope the gossip's true and Mehgan did return to the US. She needs to stay there and get her life together and stop tepping over people t climb up the social ladder.
^true, but having someone like Mehgan possibly joining sn't going to advance the monarchy and losen their restrictions. She's a bigmouth who believes that she can make a difference. She won't. I agree that the monarchy has to adapt somewhat to the times and I believe that Harry was on track with how monarchy can help the people with his IG and Charles really got it right with The Princes Trust, now I've no idea what we're supposed to make of this Mehgan crap. People might be talking about her and the monarchy, but it's not good things, imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 01:57:45 am
^The BRF have really dented their own brand and this addition does not help at all.  I agree. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 07, 2017, 02:35:15 am
Camilla is a twit. MM is a star compared to her. Maybe she is happy to have a lower class person in the family so she can feel superior. The star was Diana.

No, she's not - in actuality she's not the monster people make her out to be. Her family has long-standing clout with the RF. It's doubtful she's the kind to turn her nose at anybody, though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 03:10:40 am
Why Meghan Markle Hasn't Been Pictured With Prince Harry Since Last Week
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Although Markle will be spending Christmas with her 33-year-old royal fiancé - and is expected to be joining the Queen at Sandringham - it's speculated that she's currently traveling the globe and visiting friends and family before settling into her new life at Kensington Palace.
http://www.elleuk.com/life-and-culture/news/a40360/meghan-markle-pictured-prince-harry-family/
This makes no sense if she has to do visa work as she's not a citzen of the UK.
^the Brits have a wicked sense of humor. I believe that Camilla was being very sarcastic. She could mean that Mehgan's the star of her own fantasy as she thinks she can join the royal family and have a voice to to continue on her so called passionate causes. The only casuse she seems to have is to self promote and con powerful people along with her cohorts Jess and Markus. I still think it's odd when Mrs Trudea was up on the stage at the IG ceremony and was thanking harry for bringing the truth. I wonder if he told her what's really going on with hima nd Mehgan. He doesn't look comfortable and at ease with her as he's around other women and I know it's nothing to do with hi being in love with her.I know eople don't agree, but she did come off manic during last weeks engagements, so maybe she's off in a hospital somewhere getting treatment to calm dow, or better yet, she's stuck in the US dealing with the IRS and visa issues. Unfortunately, though, she seems to have a bad habit of popping up like a bad reacurance of a nasty STD, so I'm sure she'll be seen again, ugh.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 07, 2017, 05:18:13 am
^ I suspect this too. Especially when she said that we are lucky to have her after her husband almost started running from the press when asked what he thinks about the engagement. The thrown away clothes, the public appearance after damning articles where people showed up to boo her, the one way ticket paid by herself to LA .. yes, they are thrilled to have her


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: deGuernsey on December 07, 2017, 05:30:12 am
What did camilla say about her?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 05:53:40 am
I don't think she's in LA or we'd be hearing about Harry to the rescue to find protection for her and her mom during the fires there now.  Didn't she just buy beach/resort  clothing?  Oh, who cares.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 07, 2017, 06:11:11 am
How do we know Meghan bought a one way ticket to LA, did the ticket clerk blab, lol? And I watched that live feed to the event in Nottingham from start to finish and there were certainly no boos. If there had been then I have no doubts whatsoever that Harry would have gone over to the people and said something. People were cheering and screaming and calling out Harry and Meghan's names. The Royal correspondents and other journos were over the moon about the appearance.

I looked on the anti-Meghan Tumblr sites and they were silent about any booing on that day. That began the next day on their sites because these idiots can't accept that this couple is in love and the marriage is going to take place. And what are they going to say when the Queen mentions the engagement on her Xmas broadcast, as she most probably will, and if she stays with the royals at Sandringham over Christmas? Oh, er, well Harry is being blackmailed and so is the whole royal family, perhaps!

They said the couple had broken up in December, then it was May, then she wouldn't turn up for Skip's wedding, then lies about her being escorted from the polo, then it was Harry can't stand her they won't be at the IG. Well they were at the IG and together. Then it was a false engagement, what's it going to be in May 2018 as she arrives at St George's with Harry waiting at the altar? She's going to be thrown out by the Archbishop, I suppose. Honestly!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: leogirl on December 07, 2017, 06:45:21 am
^ It was wishful thinking. I am not a fan of Meghan, but they are together and getting married. They need to accept reality: Meghan is the best Harry can do. I think they had high hopes for Harry, but he let them down.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 07, 2017, 10:47:42 am
^ But Harry has no responsibility to uphold whatever wishes, dreams and hopes others may have on his behalf. Like everybody else in this world he has the right to fall in love with and marry a person that he feels is the right one for him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Maya on December 07, 2017, 11:20:52 am
Great post @leogirl completely agree. Harry has game set and matched. It turns out after all this time The Party Prince narrative is the true one. That is a major disappointment.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 07, 2017, 12:22:43 pm
Literally every man can do better than the Meghan type of fame seeking looser users who are phony, manipulative and obnoxios. Including Harry. There is nothing to accept. Just as Trump is not my president, Meghan is not my FD.

I agree that Harry is not responsible to fulfill the public's wishes to choose a decent woman. Those who fund the ho ho hos must be thrilled to have their taces go to Meghan's global vacationing. If Harry renounces any and all priv8leges, titles, succession right - then yes, he can be with whatever ho ho ho he's attracted to.





Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 07, 2017, 12:58:51 pm
^ But Harry has no responsibility to uphold whatever wishes, dreams and hopes others may have on his behalf. Like everybody else in this world he has the right to fall in love with and marry a person that he feels is the right one for him.

The taxpayer doesn't have to pay for it though; he is marrying a totally unsuitable person. Get some balls, step down and do it on your own, Harry. Give up the title and privileges and see how true love works out for you. He has been granted way more privileges and credit than 99 percent of the world and he isn't owed anything.

I think anybody can speculate as to where she is; why not, it's all clouded with suspicion and confusion anyways, so why not believe those blind items? There are people who know way more and perhaps this is the truth coming out? Doesn't make people idiots, IMO, everything seems rush rush rush and Media Markle and Harry the Lout are not above lying and treating the public like gullible fools. It's a shame - Harry's sense of arrogance and entitlement is matching his brother's more and more as time goes on. The fact he has picked someone who takes manipulation to a whole new degree just shows that he doesn't truly get even his own mother's legacy. Oh,well.

What is FD? We don't all know what these abbreviations mean. Thanks.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 07, 2017, 01:10:29 pm
FD stands for Future Duchess.

The one Harry was ‘destined’ to marry.

There’s a whole tumblr site dedicated to this person no one knows or even heard of.

All a bit bizarre but there you go.

The site is

fdastrology.tumblr.com



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 01:56:51 pm
Harry has an enormous responsibility to the taxpayers.  Mainly because the taxpayers have no involvement in the decision-making process of who's in and who's out.  And they are there until they die.  They live a privileged lifestyle through no effort on their part and should not use it to complain or ever take it for granted.

So, it's on him, and all members of the BRF to at least provide more than just entertainment.  I believe that's what's happening now.  People are starting to really see how irrelevant the whole pantomime truly is.  Once you've lost respect, once you give away that elusive sense of majesty and mystery, it's game over.  Or should be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 02:52:30 pm
^ But Harry has no responsibility to uphold whatever wishes, dreams and hopes others may have on his behalf. Like everybody else in this world he has the right to fall in love with and marry a person that he feels is the right one for him.

The taxpayer doesn't have to pay for it though; he is marrying a totally unsuitable person. Get some balls, step down and do it on your own, Harry. Give up the title and privileges and see how true love works out for you. He has been granted way more privileges and credit than 99 percent of the world and he isn't owed anything.

I think anybody can speculate as to where she is; why not, it's all clouded with suspicion and confusion anyways, so why not believe those blind items? There are people who know way more and perhaps this is the truth coming out? Doesn't make people idiots, IMO, everything seems rush rush rush and Media Markle and Harry the Lout are not above lying and treating the public like gullible fools. It's a shame - Harry's sense of arrogance and entitlement is matching his brother's more and more as time goes on. The fact he has picked someone who takes manipulation to a whole new degree just shows that he doesn't truly get even his own mother's legacy. Oh,well.

What is FD? We don't all know what these abbreviations mean. Thanks.  :cookie:

The royals can't snub Meghan after they let divorced Camilla in. No way could the Queen had not let her in. It had to start before the Queen let Camilla in. Once that happened, unless the prospective bride had 7 past husbands, is a criminal or on the lam, the brides will be accepted in. And three of the four children of the Queen divorced and she gave two of  them permission to remarry.

I don't believe the blind items they are from the same people who kept saying Harry broke up with Meghan a few times over the past year. And she was airbrushed in and they really were not together and so on.

The royals vet prospective spouses. They found nothing. Case closed. And they have wall to wall "people" to do this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 07, 2017, 02:52:45 pm
^ I suspect this too. Especially when she said that we are lucky to have her after her husband almost started running from the press when asked what he thinks about the engagement. The thrown away clothes, the public appearance after damning articles where people showed up to boo her, the one way ticket paid by herself to LA .. yes, they are thrilled to have her

Can anyone help me find the link to the article about her clothes being tossed? I have searched but can't find anything! The searches always bring me to sights about her style.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 02:54:10 pm
It is a reflection on these nasty people who have too much time on their hands, rather than Meghan. The royals vetted Meghan, found nothing, I call these people vultures who trash her that way.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 03:27:48 pm
@ Kins

There was no article about that it was from tweet.  my guess it's not true  what is going on now  people are going on to tumblr who are not big fans of meghan and droping so called "insider"  info knowing those tumblr will eat it up as truth and speard it they aslo will tweet things knowing those same tumblr looking for info like that to speard .


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 03:29:32 pm
The royals do screening and vetting. If there was anything in her past that was really serious, Meghan would have been history a long time ago.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 07, 2017, 03:52:50 pm
I I would not recommend Megan to come to LA as I have now got a respiratory infection from the smoke in the air. And I work in law enforcement as a prosecutor, and we do not have the police power to protect her, since everybody is trying to cope with the damage from the fires. So she and her mother should go visit Canada together instead of her coming here. Or they can go to New York. I know a lot of people are upset about her marrying into the Royal Family. But I've never seen anybody in the Royal Family break an engagement once it's announced, so I think this is a done deal. As I said before no civilization lasts forever. So I think it's destiny in some way that by the time William takes the throne, he may he may very well be the last in the succession of William the Conquerer. Too much will have happened to sustain it. That is just my humble opinion. Of course I can be wrong.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 07, 2017, 03:58:26 pm
Excuse the spelling in my dictation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 04:05:19 pm
^Not a problem.  I’m so sorry to hear you’re ill from the fires.  Thinking of you and keep safe.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 04:07:11 pm
I don't get all the upset over Meghan. She is not ever going to be Queen Consort and he is not going to be King and Defender of the Faith. He will do his work as will his wife. And that's that.

OTOH, some just rhapsodize over Charles' choice (once she got the HRH) as second wife. He OTOH is going to be King and Defender of the Faith. And she would be Queen Consort. So it  makes no sense that Harry's choice is vilified while Charles' wife is praised by some as "better" than Meghan. I see Camilla as worse. I think the crisis will come when Charles becomes King (he and Camilla are not exactly beloved by all) and by then Harry's choice of bride will be a footnote. And once some questionable people are let in and once they get the HRH all doubts with royalists disappear.

If Meghan pulls her weight and works and is sincere about doing royal work and follows protocol, I don't see what the fuss is about. She and Harry will never be called upon to be King and Queen Consort. If they pull their weight, fine.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 04:08:41 pm
 BRF no broken engament that i know of ,but you did have Princess Madeleine of Sweden's  and Jonas Bergstrom. As for harry and meghan yes they will be married in May

keep safe


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 07, 2017, 04:12:46 pm
☺thanks for that tidbit. We here in Canada don't know much about her and don't really know her or care to. Amazing the lack of loyalty to anything that girl has. And I believe there is still a lot to learn about Megs. Trust me on this, the grey men etc protect you once you have any link to the RF despite your past -sad but true.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 04:22:29 pm
How easy is it for Americans like Meghan to become British?

As she marries Prince Harry, Meghan Markle will be working towards becoming a British citizen in the coming years.

It can be a lengthy and costly process - hopefuls first need to secure permanent residency after living in the UK for five years before they can even apply.

Visas, applications and tests costs can add up to thousands of pounds.

Kensington Palace says Ms Markle will be treated like any other applicant. So how difficult is it for the average American?
Freddie O'Farrell and his American partner Bethany Birdsall are right at the start of the process and applied for a fiancée visa just as news of Prince Harry and Ms Markle's engagement broke. It is complicated, they say, and already proving stressful.

Miss Birdsall is at home in Minnesota while the application is processed.
Mr O'Farrell, 24, said she is "killing time" until she comes back to the UK, where she will not be able to work while holding the fiancée visa, waiting instead until she has a marriage visa.

It has put extra pressure on their finances - around £3,000 needed for visas and legal fees.

"Because we have no dependants, we are quite a simple case," he said. "But even for us we are looking at spending a lot of money and being apart for three or four months.

"It's definitely a strain on any relationship, but it's much harder for her because she can't work when she gets here, so it's a lot of waiting around."

Ms Birdsall has previously worked with children of undocumented migrants in Chicago and, when she is legally allowed to work, wants to do a similar job in the UK.

Mr O'Farrell added: "Frankly, the system is very difficult to navigate, prohibitively expensive - though I imagine that is probably on purpose - and very slow."

A Home Office spokesman said the fees charged, to apply for citizenship for example, are "key" to the government's aim to make the system fully-funded by those who use it and "reduce the burden on the UK taxpayer".
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42224147




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rebecca on December 07, 2017, 05:29:51 pm
Harry has an enormous responsibility to the taxpayers.  Mainly because the taxpayers have no involvement in the decision-making process of who's in and who's out.  And they are there until they die.  They live a privileged lifestyle through no effort on their part and should not use it to complain or ever take it for granted.

So, it's on him, and all members of the BRF to at least provide more than just entertainment.  I believe that's what's happening now.  People are starting to really see how irrelevant the whole pantomime truly is.  Once you've lost respect, once you give away that elusive sense of majesty and mystery, it's game over.  Or should be.

I am not a Meghan sugar, but I don't dislike her either. But I think there have been enough BRF scandals over the years to have lost respect loooooong ago. Andrew alleged pedophile connections anyone? And this is their queen's 'favorite' son? The queen that these people love and respect? Megs is a long way from the biggest scandal they have had. So IMO all those who are saying the monarchy is over because of Meghan are delusional.. :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 07, 2017, 06:11:20 pm
 True there are worse scandals of which we all are aware of , so a gold-digger from LA may pale in comparison. But there is something very disturbing in this woman's character, 6 months with her and I am sure Harry will go back to his cheating ways. The honeymoon will be over soon and then the world will see again that both he and his arrogant brother are bad fits.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rebecca on December 07, 2017, 06:23:14 pm
^You certainly may be right. I don't think for one moment that Meghan isn't playing Harry for all he's worth and loving the media attention. But I'm fairly certain that anyone he married would do just the same. Harry is a big boy and should be able to judge for himself whether he is being used for his position or not. Some people (not any specific person, or necessarily even here) act like Harry is a helpless little boy and the big bad American actress is taking advantage of him. I don't buy that for a second. Maybe he is thinking with the wrong part of his anatomy or maybe she is just putting on a good show, (although I wouldn't be surprised if she did love him in a way) but either way he will have to live with the consequences. I just don't think Meghan is worth all the hand wringing going on in some circles. Honestly it speaks more to all the reasons that monarchy is completely foolish and unnecessary in the 21st century than anything else. :cookie:

As to the fiancee visa discussion, I think that she is going through the normal channels with her paperwork, but the requirement to stay in your home country while the application is processed will be waved. Such is the nature of royalty, the rules that would apply to us don't apply to them.  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 06:34:01 pm
It'd make sense if this engagement is part of a larger picture. It was rushed and went off like no other before it. There's questions about her background and the lies that were told in the interview. That alone would raise questions of visa fraud. I think that a lot of people are taken aback from this is because Harry said things in his own words what he'd like of a wife and his actions towards women who use him to get press attention has been very contradictory to Meghan. The House of Windsor has lost a lot of respect starting with their disrespect of Diana and allowing their family to do as they please without consequences. Now look at all of the time and expense Meghan will have to go through to eventually become a British citizen. What's the point of this marriage if she'll not be able to represent the British people until after 5 years. Then there's the matter of granting permission to marry in the first place. Charles might've gotten permission to marry Camilla because Diana died but he had to wait years after her death to marry her. That might've been a pr strategy or part of some law. Meghan's first husband is still alive, so I don't know how that'll play out. IMO, there's no plus in Harry marrying Meghan. The U.K. government's cracking down on spouse visas as there's an uptick of British citizens marrying or getting engaged to foreign born people who want to enter the U.K. and get a visa to stay. Documentaries have been made showing how the British people are being duped by this scam. The queen isn't going to help Meghan bypass the immigration laws as stated on numerous occasions by the BBC and Harry's press team.
I believe that the engagement interview got her to admit that her ethnicity hasn't been an issue as that one thing seems to be the sticking point in her still being around after that ridiculous statement was issued. She plays the race card and other things over the year she's been linked to Harry. An engagement can be broken and there's quite a few reasons that can be used in this case.
Yes, the British royal family can have people throughly veted and still use people like Meghan with her dubious background for a specific reason like I believe seems to be going on here, but the public won't be told exactly what that is although I think people have come up with a few good scenarios here.
^I think with the hot topic of immigration and Brexit and Trump telling Britain to get tougher on immigration, that it'll be worse for the monarchy if the people see that they are helping Meghan bend the rules.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rebecca on December 07, 2017, 06:46:42 pm
^IMO permission was already granted for them to marry. The Archbishop of Canterbury has already said there is no hindrance to them marrying in a church. I know that some people are very upset by this engagement, but I don't think there is a 'bigger picture'. The reality is that Harry wants to marry her, the queen has apparently given permission and Clarence House announced the engagement. It's happening. For better or worse. So short of getting rid of the monarchy (which I think would be great), there is nothing left for the public to do but accept it.  :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 06:52:41 pm
A reminder to all posters.  This is a gossip site not a court room requiring litigation.  In addition, all views are to be respected and not belittled or name callef under veiled generalizations. 

I don’t like to see the temp rising in some posts.  Be polite, respectful of other posters, discontinue the comparisons to other people or I will lock this down for a cooling off period.

It’s supposed to be fun!  Ok?  Thank you.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 06:55:01 pm
^^umm, no, the public doesn't have to just accept it.  :flower: It didn't happen with Brexit so why should it happen with the royal family? I'd love to know why Harry has disrespected her the few times they've been in public? I'd also like to know why, if we take that interview at face value, why she's never been seen with him out and about around London like he's been seen with his past girlfriends. 2 and 2 doesn't equal 4 with this situation. One thing this has done has stopped talk about Harry being king material. That alone could be a reason for this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 06:58:47 pm
It'd make sense if this engagement is part of a larger picture. It was rushed and went off like no other before it. There's questions about her background and the lies that were told in the interview. That alone would raise questions of visa fraud. I think that a lot of people are taken aback from this is because Harry said things in his own words what he'd like of a wife and his actions towards women who use him to get press attention has been very contradictory to Meghan. The House of Windsor has lost a lot of respect starting with their disrespect of Diana and allowing their family to do as they please without consequences. Now look at all of the time and expense Meghan will have to go through to eventually become a British citizen. What's the point of this marriage if she'll not be able to represent the British people until after 5 years. Then there's the matter of granting permission to marry in the first place. Charles might've gotten permission to marry Camilla because Diana died but he had to wait years after her death to marry her. That might've been a pr strategy or part of some law. Meghan's first husband is still alive, so I don't know how that'll play out. IMO, there's no plus in Harry marrying Meghan. The U.K. government's cracking down on spouse visas as there's an uptick of British citizens marrying or getting engaged to foreign born people who want to enter the U.K. and get a visa to stay. Documentaries have been made showing how the British people are being duped by this scam. The queen isn't going to help Meghan bypass the immigration laws as stated on numerous occasions by the BBC and Harry's press team.
I believe that the engagement interview got her to admit that her ethnicity hasn't been an issue as that one thing seems to be the sticking point in her still being around after that ridiculous statement was issued. She plays the race card and other things over the year she's been linked to Harry. An engagement can be broken and there's quite a few reasons that can be used in this case.
Yes, the British royal family can have people throughly veted and still use people like Meghan with her dubious background for a specific reason like I believe seems to be going on here, but the public won't be told exactly what that is although I think people have come up with a few good scenarios here.
^I think with the hot topic of immigration and Brexit and Trump telling Britain to get tougher on immigration, that it'll be worse for the monarchy if the people see that they are helping Meghan bend the rules.

I did not have the impression it was "rushed." I found William's and Kate's announcement rushed and oddly it came out the same day Charles was on a TV show talking about the environment (it was Prime time in the US). It seemed to surprise some people and Charles reacted saying well they've been practicing long enough.

Meghan and Harry will be man and wife and the complexities of becoming a British citizen will not keep Meghan from working or having royal children. She won't be kept "on ice" so to speak until the citizenship is resolved. With the royals there are ways of getting red tape expedited.

I see no dubious background for Meghan, none whatsoever.

There are several reasons that Charles had to wait to marry Camilla and mainly it was not Diana but the Queen Mum who made them wait. She stipulated that no C and C take place in her lifetime. Plus there was the Burrell trial and the letters that made Charles look bad (re: the planning of an "accident" in one letter Diana wrote), plus there was the public (some of which did not like Camilla) and Charles signed up Camilla with some years of work with a PR guru. So it really was not having to wait after Diana died for a few years. Charles was not Diana's widower they divorced in 1996. Charles started the Bolland connection while Diana was still alive.

I don't see many "race cards" being played. There seem to be some issues of her being an American and her non-fans knock her for being one. And then there are the stories fabricated...and "rumors."

She is not going to have to wait 5 years to do royal work, she would be Harrys wife and she won't be kept from working.

Royals have rules bent for them all the time, so the public should resent it when Meghan has an easier time getting citizenship. I think the majority won't care much less storm the palaces for their being "unfair."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 07, 2017, 07:00:34 pm
@ Kins

There was no article about that it was from tweet.  my guess it's not true  what is going on now  people are going on to tumblr who are not big fans of meghan and droping so called "insider"  info knowing those tumblr will eat it up as truth and speard it they aslo will tweet things knowing those same tumblr looking for info like that to speard .

Thank you for clarifying!!  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 07:02:45 pm
In reply to an earlier post, re: harry being King. Despite people saying Harry should or should not be King He was born the spare and the odds were much against his even having a remote chance of being King. And talk has quieted since Kate and William had the children.

And in answer to Harry not being seen as much with Meghan. Well, as I recall he was not seen much with his other lady friends (other than Chelsy). He was rarely seen with Cressida let alone on an actual date together. He appeared to rush ahead of her and not even hold car doors for Cressida.  I did not see him disrespect Meghan I think some drew their own interpretations on what happened at Pippa's wedding. I doubt now that they are engaged will this be dissected again. I know there were no public fights.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rebecca on December 07, 2017, 07:09:55 pm
^^umm, no, the public doesn't have to just accept it.  :flower: It didn't happen with Brexit so why should it happen with the royal family? I'd love to know why Harry has disrespected her the few times they've been in public? I'd also like to know why, if we take that interview at face value, why she's never been seen with him out and about around London like he's been seen with his past girlfriends. 2 and 2 doesn't equal 4 with this situation. One thing this has done has stopped talk about Harry being king material. That alone could be a reason for this.

Ok, so the public may not have accepted Brexit, but it is still happening..just like this marriage probably will.   Also, I don't think he has disrespected her, I think that is wishful thinking on the behalf of people who hope the marriage doesn't happen. I don't care too much either way, but I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 07, 2017, 07:27:24 pm
I think I'll back away from this because at the end of the day, it's Harry who'll have to deal with his very poor choice and how it'll effect his life and those of his charaties, that's if this is indeed a real engagement that'll lead to marriage. It's not good for the monarchy or the British people like myself to pay for and accept an attention seeking user like Meghan as a representative. I respect everyone's posts, but it's not really worth having disagreements over and having to go back and fourth clearing up parts of of my comments that were misinterpreted. Peace.  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 07:35:06 pm
^Understandable.  I, for one, however, do stand firm that the last and most important word comes from the good people of the UK and I respect that.  It’s on their tab after all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 07:41:52 pm
144 days  9hours 17 mins  to go  :laundry: :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 07, 2017, 08:05:11 pm
^ where is that dr Who police booth when you need it? :laugh:
 :bored: still that long!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 07, 2017, 08:14:43 pm
^Understandable.  I, for one, however, do stand firm that the last and most important word comes from the good people of the UK and I respect that.  It’s on their tab after all.

And on the Commonwealth - who actually pay more per capita for upkeep of the Royals.  I don't see what the biggest issue it us with the current slate of Royals. Plenty of royals living everyday lives who are far better people - Harry is just a target for those who seek celebrity and fame. If he wants to be stupid , go ahead it is his right,  
But don't have the taxpayer pay for it. I think Megs rubs people the wrong way because she is too desperate for attention.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 07, 2017, 08:18:56 pm
And fake too.
^ It is possible that after Brexit Scotland and Northern Ireland will want new referendums and will want out of UK and into EU. That means - there's a chance that the UK and Commonwealth pay more for the upkeep of the keeping up with the Windsors.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 08:21:37 pm
All the royals have PR no matter what. Meghan as a representative of a patronage would need to call attention to a charity or cause. that's the way it works.  She is outgoing which is good for a person promoting a charity. Why should royals paid for by taxpayers be cherry picked? On what basis, Divorce? Well then should  tax money be not spent on Charles, Anne, Camilla and Andrew? They all divorced and two of the Queen's children remarried. Basing the deprivation  of taxpayer's fund on some people's loathing of Meghan makes no sense to me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Maya on December 07, 2017, 08:25:43 pm
Picking up the tab over here too windsor2 can't say it's something that's cause for much celebration.

I think -and have thought for a long time - there should be a referendum on the monarchy or failing that the British people should be asked where they want their money to go. All the monarchists can send their money towards the monarchy and everyone else who uses vital services like the NHS or education can send their money towards something worthwhile that has a direct tangible benefit in their lives.

I'm not seeing much value for money here at present.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 08:44:58 pm
My apoligies to the Commonwealth.  I neglected their contribution to this institution.   :thankyou: for reminding me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 07, 2017, 10:07:58 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Matchmaker who 'set up Meghan and Harry' is seen for the first time since they announced their engagement - but she's still keeping quiet on secrets of royal romance

    Fashion designer Misha Nonoo, 31, is believed to be the woman who set up Prince Harry and Meghan Markle on a date last year
    DailyMail.com has obtained exclusive pictures of Markle and Nonoo vacationing together in Madrid last summer,  just days after the actress first met Harry
    The two friends took a three-week trip encompassing London, Madrid, Mallorca, and Formentera - the very trip that saw Markle's introduction to Harry
    The Bahraini-born, London-raised designer has ties to the royal family through her ex-husband, Alexander Gilkes, 37, who went to Eton with William and Harry
    Nonoo met Markle at an event in Miami some two years ago and has said that they 'bonded instantly'
    She remained tight-lipped when approached by DailyMail.com on Tuesday and said only that she was heading to the airport


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5152145/Meghan-Markle-seen-vacation-photos-met-Harry.html

Maybe this will help move the conversation on a bit :)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2017, 12:54:12 am
As always, a sinister spin is put on this by some of the commentators.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 01:12:35 pm
Wow I didn't realize all the Commonwealth countries had to pay for the Royals. Boy does that family have a good gimmick going. Well now my fellow Yank, LA homegirl gets to cash in too. Well it would be anyone Harry marries. But because he cashes in, he is subject to what the purse strings think.  So people speak your mind about this. If he ever gets cut off, he has his own money from his share of his Mom divorce money, Queen Mum estate and what the Queen and Charles will give him from their enormous growing personal wealth. And Meg can always go back to work getting even jucier paying roles as a princess actress. So maybe the future taxpayers will get a break from them. He and Meg will always be wealthy and live fabulously. And that goes if he collects another wife or two down the line.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 08, 2017, 01:43:00 pm
Meghan's bridal bootcamp: Harry's fiancée is set to undertake HOSTAGE training - and 'hires Michael Jackson's former bodyguard to teach her self-defence'

    Bride-to-be will undertake  hostage training from the British Special Air Service
    Will learn how to escape restraints and use micro gestures to send secret signals
    Meghan, 36, is said to have enlisted services of Matt Fiddes to learn self defence
    Millionaire Matt was previously Michael Jackson's friend and bodyguard


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5159623/Meghan-Markle-set-undergo-hostage-training.html

Isn't that the dream of everyone? Marry into a good family, but requirements are hostage training and self-defense classes :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2017, 01:45:45 pm
They all had to do this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 01:48:22 pm
Sounds like she's training for an acting job. Oh that's right she is.. So do all the Royals have to do this hostage training, or is only the American actress royals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 01:51:39 pm
I can't see Cammi doing this somehow.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 01:53:11 pm
I can't see Cammi doing this somehow.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 08, 2017, 01:59:42 pm
^^^ I think the Fail article is BS myself, especially the bit about hiring Michael Jackson's bodyguard. Meghan probably will be trained later on. All the royals are trained in certain forms of self defence and how to react in certain situations by special service officers at Scotland Yard.

 I remember once Fergie slipped and fell after an engagement (always inclined to be clumsy) and Andrew didn't pick her up off the ground but got into the car that was waiting. An aide helped her. Andrew was criticised in the Press for it but apparently part of the royals training is never to stop for any emergency, just get in the car or property.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 08, 2017, 02:11:01 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Matchmaker who 'set up Meghan and Harry' is seen for the first time since they announced their engagement - but she's still keeping quiet on secrets of royal romance

    Fashion designer Misha Nonoo, 31, is believed to be the woman who set up Prince Harry and Meghan Markle on a date last year
    DailyMail.com has obtained exclusive pictures of Markle and Nonoo vacationing together in Madrid last summer,  just days after the actress first met Harry
    The two friends took a three-week trip encompassing London, Madrid, Mallorca, and Formentera - the very trip that saw Markle's introduction to Harry
    The Bahraini-born, London-raised designer has ties to the royal family through her ex-husband, Alexander Gilkes, 37, who went to Eton with William and Harry
    Nonoo met Markle at an event in Miami some two years ago and has said that they 'bonded instantly'
    She remained tight-lipped when approached by DailyMail.com on Tuesday and said only that she was heading to the airport


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5152145/Meghan-Markle-seen-vacation-photos-met-Harry.html

Maybe this will help move the conversation on a bit :)

Yes, HRHoyla!   I'm moving on by making the observation that Harry must not be a leg man because Meggles has some of the scrawniest pins I've ever seen . . . .     :bored:   :James:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/06/14/46C8D89900000578-0-image-m-33_1512570939393.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 02:21:07 pm
Her feet are a bit weird too, but she has got some pretty cool  yoga moves. They come in handy at times.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 02:24:49 pm
I'm sorry to see you guys leaving the post I've had a lot of fun reading your stuff.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 08, 2017, 03:54:30 pm
^^ I think I saw bunions, not entirely sure though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 08, 2017, 04:29:29 pm
As always, a sinister spin is put on this by some of the commentators.
i understand she wasnt famous at all (including in canada) for papz being interested in her in spain... and misha isnt some sort of lagerfeld or valentino for papz being interested in her pic. so.... :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 08, 2017, 08:55:24 pm
Wow I didn't realize all the Commonwealth countries had to pay for the Royals.

We don't. We pay their expenses if they visit but other than that we pay nothing. We have to support the Queen's representatives - in Australia that is the GG and the state Governors but we pay nothing towards the Queen personally along with the rest of them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 10:28:27 pm
Well that seems more reasonable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on December 09, 2017, 12:00:23 am
So is Markles preggo?

Curious how she ducked out of sight entirely, but maybe I’ve missed something.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 09, 2017, 12:22:42 am
No way she's pregnant. The family is sticklers for born in wedlock children. And no way would they have the wedding months from now when she would be showing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2017, 01:25:04 am
Grilling Never Looked So Hot with Meghan Markle
https://www.menshealth.com/video/grilling-never-looked-so-hot-with-meghan-markle


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 09, 2017, 02:42:52 am
 :stop:

please.    :Pippa:  :camera:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 09, 2017, 02:48:24 am
Meghan Markle’s “Wild Past” Being Erased By MI5 Agents?
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By Holly Nicol | 6:13 am, December 8, 2017

Is Meghan Markle’s alleged “wild past” being erased by MI5 agents? That’s the latest claim coming from one of this week’s tabloids, but Gossip Cop can set the record straight. We’re told it’s “nonsense.”

According to the National Enquirer, Britain’s MI5 spy agency will have “scrubbed” Markle’s “party girl past clean” by the time she walks down the aisle next spring. In its article, a so-called “source” is quoted as saying, “MI5 has been scouring America and Canada for months, silencing Meghan’s old friends and acquaintances with hush money and non-disclosure agreements. The press will find a big nothing.” The publication’s purported “insider” further contends MI5 is working to conceal the actress’s supposed “raunchy past” by “flagging potential trouble spots” in what’s allegedly called “Operation Clean Sweep.”

The magazine’s questionable “source” goes on to maintain, “Meghan’s not the squeaky clean bride the royal family hoped for,” before asserting that they’ve launched an “all-out campaign” to “whitewash her boozing, binge eating, affairs and plastic surgery.” The Enquirer’s tipster, a purported “insider” at Markle’s sorority Kappa Kappa Gamma, goes on to claim the former “Suits” actress was a “hot mess” at college. “She got a fake ID to go drinking at a dump called the Keg. It was a crazy scene full of drunken underage girls and boys,” alleges the publication’s unnamed and untraceable “source.”

Curiously, the dogged U.K. press hasn’t covered any of this. And the reason is that other than vague assertions about fairly typical college behavior, the claims about Markle are nothing more than fabrications. Equally absurd is the contention about Markle having been a “hot mess.” While it’s true Markle was in a sorority at Northwestern University, she was also a model student and dubbed as a “theater nerd.” Still, Gossip Cop checked in with a source close to the future royal and we’re assured the story about her “wild past” being erased by British MI5 agents is complete “nonsense.”

Of course, we’re hardly surprised by the supermarket tabloid’s newest manufactured tale about the bride-to-be. Just last month, Gossip Cop corrected the often discredited magazine for falsely alleging in a ridiculous report that Markle stopped eating garlic weeks before meeting the queen. Much like that cooked-up article, the latest claim about MI5 having Markle’s past “scrubbed” is also untrue.

https://www.gossipcop.com/meghan-markle-mi5-erase-wild-past/
She's the source that's paying GC to have article's about her wild past debunked. She's going to go broke very fast then. :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 09, 2017, 09:00:43 am
I don't think she's paying anybody. The royals thoroughly had her checked out. If anything were untoward, she'd have been history by now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 09, 2017, 04:28:52 pm
oops wrong thread. :shy:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 09, 2017, 05:28:29 pm
EXCLUSIVE: 'He's SO hot!' Meghan Markle's crush on rocker Mark McGrath when she was 18 is revealed in new video which shows her cruising LA in her car with CLASSY GIRL plates

    A candid home video obtained by DailyMailTV shows an 18-year-old Meghan Markle driving around with a friend in Los Angeles in the summer of 1999
    Ninaki Priddy, the actress's childhood best friend, is behind the camera for most of the 45-minute movie as the girls talk about boys, shop, and listen to music
    She discloses her crush on Sugar Ray rocker Mark McGrath
    Meghan points out her license plate cover which reads 'CLASSY GIRL' and admits, 'The ex-boyfriend got me that'
    The footage also shows the future princess's messy bedroom for which Meghan explains she is getting ready to move to college
    The two gal pals are seen driving around until it's time for Meghan to head to an audition for a Shakira music video where she was asked to 'dance wildly' 
    Priddy, 36,was Meghan's best friend from the age of two and maid of honor at her first marriage but their friendship ended when the actress got divorced


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5160821/18-year-old-Meghan-Markle-cruises-LA-home-video.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 09, 2017, 05:36:35 pm
Wow-media is desperate to make print.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 09, 2017, 05:49:54 pm
She needs grammar lessons. Stat.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 09, 2017, 06:09:15 pm
I realize that this post will sound a little strange on this topic, but I recently saw a documentary and an interview of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. ( King Edward the 8th and Wallis.) And I have to say he reminds me very much of Harry. And that Wallace is very outspoken like Meghan. I think it's the Yank upbringing. But it almost made me think that these two are the reincarnation of those two and this is a way for Edward the 8th to finally get his American wife accepted. And he gets to live the Royal official life without the duties of the kingship would he always hated. He actually would have loved to have been in Prince Harris position. So I know it's a wild idea but it did cross my mind I thought I posted about their engagement. And I don't mind if you guys all think I'm ridiculous for posting this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 09, 2017, 08:20:57 pm
EXCLUSIVE: 'He's SO hot!' Meghan Markle's crush on rocker Mark McGrath when she was 18 is revealed in new video which shows her cruising LA in her car with CLASSY GIRL plates

    A candid home video obtained by DailyMailTV shows an 18-year-old Meghan Markle driving around with a friend in Los Angeles in the summer of 1999
    Ninaki Priddy, the actress's childhood best friend, is behind the camera for most of the 45-minute movie as the girls talk about boys, shop, and listen to music
    She discloses her crush on Sugar Ray rocker Mark McGrath
    Meghan points out her license plate cover which reads 'CLASSY GIRL' and admits, 'The ex-boyfriend got me that'
    The footage also shows the future princess's messy bedroom for which Meghan explains she is getting ready to move to college
    The two gal pals are seen driving around until it's time for Meghan to head to an audition for a Shakira music video where she was asked to 'dance wildly' 
    Priddy, 36,was Meghan's best friend from the age of two and maid of honor at her first marriage but their friendship ended when the actress got divorced


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5160821/18-year-old-Meghan-Markle-cruises-LA-home-video.html

Honour?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 09, 2017, 08:24:56 pm
^^no, not at all because I get the same vibe off this; that it's a modern day version of the same thing as Wallis/Edward. Funny how Harry wasn't seen as a weak imbecile who'll let his girlfriends overshadow/overpower him prior to Meghan though. Nothing is as it seems with this situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 09, 2017, 09:55:14 pm
This is the trait of  a Windsor Male. Charles went to older women as his "confidantes" and two of his mistresses were married much like his great Uncle David. Charles found his "wallis" in Camilla who appears to call the shots but Charles did not have to give up his place in line of succession unlike his great Uncle. Camilla is one year older
WIlliam found a woman who seems to be in control, and she is a year older--she would give death stares to other women around William.

Harry found an older woman (three years older) and she like Kate appears to have taken control.
It's a symptom of Windsor princes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 09, 2017, 10:04:09 pm
I think Harry likes her because she isn't needy. She works , has 4 million in the bank, is easygoing and free spirited.
Lively, chatty and upbeat.
Harry IMO needs that kind of a person to build a life with.
A while back I was hoping for Harry and Joss Stone so for me Meghan is no strange choice.
Now I can only hope that she is sincere and they know each other well enough to have a successful marriage.
Time will tell.

^
About Meghan being older I've been thinking about that, She is 36, the same age Diana died. Could it be that Harry thinks she is now "safe" somehow? Like in: if she made it this far she is likely to have the rest of her life ahead of her too. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 09, 2017, 10:14:41 pm
'Staggeringly beautiful, savvy and intelligent': How Meghan Markle raved about Ivanka Trump in interview for her now defunct lifestyle website before she met Prince Harry
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The same age, the pair had grown up at the same time with Meghan watching from the West Coast as Ivanka grew up in the spotlight cast by her father.  
In August 2014, two years before she met Harry, Meghan sent Ivanka an email containing a list of questions she hoped she would answer as part of an influencer on The Tig.
To her surprise, she responded 'immediately and honestly' which fed Meghan's fondness of her and soaked the gushing article which she eventually published on the site.
'Let's take a moment and discuss Ivanka Trump. Staggeringly beautiful, no question, but so incredibly savvy and intelligent that she’s not just carved a niche for herself under her father’s famed Trump notoriety, she has undoubtedly created her own empire,' Meghan wrote.
Having grown up in California in a comparatively modest home, Markle said she was impressed to have never seen Ivanka behaving badly.

'It’s so easy to knock the girls who come from privilege – to assume they rested on their laurels and garnered accolades simply by being fancy from the womb. But I always remember Ivanka being different – she wasn’t dancing on tables as a teenager or releasing pop albums.
'She wasn’t running amuck publicly, swearing and being smacked with DUIs. Instead she was graduating from The Wharton School (cum laude, I might add), launching the Trump Hotel Collection, and building her own brand,' she gushed.
The aforementioned brand suffered exponentially when her father was sworn in as customers boycotted her goods.
But at the time of writing, Meghan was a fan of that as well.
'Her eponymous brand seems to include every covetable thing one could imagine.
'Don't get me started on her jewelry collection: the late night “window shopping” I have done on my computer, snuggled up in my bed with a glass of wine, staring longingly at the beautiful designs...' she said.
'She does it all. And when I sent an email asking to do a TIG Talk, not only did she get back to me immediately with such honest responses, but we also began planning drinks and dinner for the next time I was in NY.
Meghan's love for Ivanka did not stretch far enough to put her on team Trump's side during the election.
In July 2016, around the same time she met Harry, Markle shared her support for Trump's campaign opponent Hillary Clinton.
Sharing a photograph of Clinton at the DNC, Markle used the popular election hashtag 'I'm With Her' to thank friends who were keeping her 'caught up' on the race while she filmed Suits.
She described Clinton's candidacy as 'a historic moment'.
None of the Trumps congratulated Harry and Meghan on their engagement.
So far only First Lady Melania has sat down with him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5163179/Meghan-Markle-raves-Ivanka-Trump-2014-interview.html
She used the blog to try and make friends in high places.
^imo, she's extremely needy otherwise she wouldn't feel the need to be touching and rubbing his back and trying to hold hands like an insecure teenager.
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Jen_Bee, London, moments ago
It's more proof that Nutmeg will cosy up to whomever it takes to get what she wants. Btw she's in the States doing interviews with magazines. Photographer on Instagram confirmed it. So that's why she had to leave Harry and London yet again. Her true love (publicity) beckoned!
Comment from the above article. We'll see if this is true. A while ago, the DM did say that she'd do another interview and also disturbing news about her will come out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 10, 2017, 05:06:39 am
^ The gesture of rubbing someone's back is the same moms use to calm their child when it's afraid.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 10, 2017, 05:16:15 am
I thought the same thing about her being 36 but it really is probably just a coincidence. Although there is spookiness about this whole engagement I have to admit. And I can't say exactly why other than what we've all said which is a lot. This may just be a Karma thing that has to be done at this time. Because I remember a year ago sitting at a table with a group of my colleagues and all of them were absolutely adamant that there's no way he would marry this girl. And we were all wrong. For whatever reason and timing he's marrying the most inappropriate girl anyone's ever married for that family including Wallace. Megan is older than him divorced,American, an actress and biracial which really shouldn't matter. But that would have never happened before now. There has to be some strange Destiny in this for this to take place in my opinion. And on a positive note maybe this is a lesson that we should just all let go of our prejudices, personally and what we think for other people.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: leogirl on December 10, 2017, 06:23:39 am
Joss Stone seems like a nice person.

I disagree about a background check with Meghan. I don't think they care. Look at Kate's background and she was able to marry into the family, and to the heir (to the heir) to the throne, no less. Mother to a future King. And Camilla was a major factor in breaking up Charles's first marriage and they let her marry in, but at least she won't be mother to any heirs, as she was well past her child bearing years at the time of their wedding.

I don't care about what country she's from or her ethnicity. Divorce is a red flag because of the rumors about her cheating on her husband. On the plus side, there were no children from that union. On the minus side, she is already 36. Her being three years older than Harry is strange because Chelsy was one year younger and Cressida was four/five years younger, and Harry has always seemed young for his age to me. Being an actress is a red flag because a lot of them can be fake and/or attention seekers, difficult to know if you can trust them or not. Especially in a long distance relationship where they spend a lot of time apart compared to how often they're together.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 10, 2017, 06:51:02 am
^^ Older, divorced,American, actress, biracial is not the issue. There is huge difference between being prejudiced and failing to bask in the gaslightning.

Meghan is disliked because of who she is as a person not for where she's coming from. She's painfully ambitious, using and discarding people, especially men, lying through her teeth ... associating her name with real celebs so that she can bask in their light, as she does not have hers.  It's been discussed in great length the type of character she is in real life and even though most are just rumors for now, where there is smoke there is fire.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 10, 2017, 01:58:33 pm
Since when does Meghan have $4mil in the bank? She was a supporting actress on a show broadcasted on a minor cable network. No way she was making that type of money and trust me she was/is paying hella taxes. She wasn’t doing movies during her off season to supplement that income, either.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 10, 2017, 04:50:57 pm
 Well having read a few articles that she's written or rather had other people write for her, (My niece's friend as one of her ghost writers) she is a very ambitious, gutzy person with a bubbly personality and reasonably intelligent. And I do think she knows how to wrap men around her finger if they're interested... But that is how a lot of women are she just got her way up to Prince Harry and worked her magic. Even in her interview you could tell she was giving him a lot of cues. But now I'm thinking he may need a woman like that. Harry is not the brightest person that walked the face of the Earth. And like Edward the 8th he may need a woman that thinks for him. Again I don't see this lasting down the line because I think Megan will tire of it and get all she can out of it and move on. But in the meantime they see happy so I guess this is a good engagement. Who knows maybe they'll adopt African children to help change the world after they have their own with very big noses.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 10, 2017, 05:50:40 pm
Videos comparing Wills/Kate's and Harr/Mehgan's engagement and such.

https://www.facebook.com/HarpersBazaar/videos/254889218372261/

https://www.facebook.com/ELLEuk/videos/10155460319797562/

https://www.facebook.com/HouseBeautiful/videos/10155901685075480/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 10, 2017, 08:16:46 pm
^^can you imagine how the Brits will react to supporting even more titled Winds that are not of the body... D or how Harry, or any man for that matter, reading that to be bossed around like a puppet is exactly what he needs or the best he can get. Very.. emasculating. Maybe MEghan can start a feminism movement - how to turn your man from a man into a sock puppet.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 10, 2017, 11:33:35 pm
I think this is a trait of some Windsor men. Kate with her death stares at women going near William (taking charge) and I think Camilla was always in the drivers seat re: Charles. ANd then there were Wallis and Edward.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 11, 2017, 02:57:29 am
Ariel you crack me up. True .what you say. I guess I'm trying to have a more positive take on what I perceive to be  a potentially a negative situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: leogirl on December 11, 2017, 03:27:11 am
In the words of Norma Louise Bates (Bates Motel), "That's not masculine. That's not attractive." (or something like that)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 11, 2017, 08:47:38 am
^^Thanks. With Meghan - why stop at modernizing BRF only. She can easily expand to the Disney princesses. Instead of kissing a frog that turns into a prince, the new version will be in reverse cause who needs a prince if you can move into his castle (it's a cottage and her clothes vanished.. allegedly), get him to cook for and take care of your dog (cause other dog walkers don't have an hrh in their resume), get his people to pay for your private jet Dora the explorer moment in his Commonwealth lands.. The new style of disney princes will be - take whatever belongs to the prince, turn his balls into an early Christmas present (but then ask for sparklier bling as real Christmas present .. or is she celebrating Hannuhah in hopes to book a movie) and practice your waving (cause that's what people in a monarchy need - a waving walking bilboard).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 11, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
^ :worship:  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 11, 2017, 01:44:18 pm
I think this is a trait of some Windsor men. Kate with her death stares at women going near William (taking charge) and I think Camilla was always in the drivers seat re: Charles. ANd then there were Wallis and Edward.
and the manipulative and spiteful elizabeth and puppet bertie too...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 11, 2017, 02:37:18 pm
Oh yes dianab I should have included her. Elizabeth I think was in charge in that household and saw to it that Wallis did not get that HRH.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 11, 2017, 06:20:47 pm
George the V did not strike me as a wimp, a cold *butt face*, but not a wimp with his wife.  Don't know. But Harry is just that type. He does like women who want or have a profession unlike his brother. He may need a determined type woman to guide him, as I think he is a lost soul when it comes to his direction. If not royal, he'd be a nobody. It just that it would be better for him to be married to a less attention seeking, self gratifying woman. She gushes all over him, and he must like that. I think many women would not behave that way with him for whatever reason. It is just that gusher spout will run out of water one day. He won't like that. Then you are left with the real woman.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 11, 2017, 06:35:45 pm
OMG! Now I can't see a pic of MeAgain without hearing the theme song to Dora the Explorer in my head!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 11, 2017, 06:38:50 pm
George the V did not strike me as a wimp, a cold *butt face*, but not a wimp with his wife.  Don't know. But Harry is just that type. He does like women who want or have a profession unlike his brother. He may need a determined type woman to guide him, as I think he is a lost soul when it comes to his direction. If not royal, he'd be a nobody. It just that it would be better for him to be married to a less attention seeking, self gratifying woman. She gushes all over him, and he must like that. I think many women would not behave that way with him for whatever reason. It is just that gusher spout will run out of water one day. He won't like that. Then you are left with the real woman.

To get right down to it how many of them would succeed if they were not royals. Charles would be talking to plants and expounding and would have no audience. What would Prince Andrew do? And Prince William (he probably would not have been able to get a job as a civilian flying copters because of bad eyesight and need for glasses). The royal men do like this sort of thing. Remember Charles saying to Camilla her "greatest achievement was loving HIM." Talk about an ego!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Grey Mare on December 11, 2017, 07:28:01 pm
I realize that this post will sound a little strange on this topic, but I recently saw a documentary and an interview of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. ( King Edward the 8th and Wallis.) And I have to say he reminds me very much of Harry. And that Wallace is very outspoken like Meghan. I think it's the Yank upbringing. But it almost made me think that these two are the reincarnation of those two and this is a way for Edward the 8th to finally get his American wife accepted. And he gets to live the Royal official life without the duties of the kingship would he always hated. He actually would have loved to have been in Prince Harris position. So I know it's a wild idea but it did cross my mind I thought I posted about their engagement. And I don't mind if you guys all think I'm ridiculous for posting this.

That has always been a major problem and an unfortunate flaw for the RF.  They set their sites on someone and "will have no other".  Edward with Wallis, King George VI with the Queen Mother, the Queen with Prince Philip, Charles with Camilla, William with Kate, Harry with Meghan, etc.  I thought Harry was going to be different but clearly he is just as needy and clingy as his royal relatives.  I tend to think it comes from their German side.  

Now, there is nothing wrong with wanting "no other" if they get it right like King George VI with the Queen Mother but in most instances they tend to pick inappropriately and do damage to the monarchy in the process.  Harry is about to do some real damage with his marriage.  This woman is the most inappropriate pick to date, she makes Kate look like a better pick and that's pretty bad.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 11, 2017, 08:01:03 pm
Harry is doing far less damage than his father did, ousting Diana so he could marry Camilla. And it started a path of lowering the bar of consorts admitted. And it will indeed continue. Perhaps George will find a divorcee when he grows up. I don't get after all the damage of the Queen's children divorcing two remarrying plus Princess Margaret's scandals that people are shocked and horrified by Harry. Considering the consequences of the past, this marriage was bound to happen. It would be ludicrous to bar Meghan after letting in Camilla. I think Camilla has the prize of the most inappropriate pick and this caused a lot of damage to the monarchy. Charles and Camilla were involved beginning in the early seventies, Charles decided not to marry her then he needed her as a "friend"  and shortly after she gave birth to Laura Parker Bowles, she and Charles started the next phase of the affair. The Queen ignored the complaints about Charles being involved with her. It as all downhill after that. At least Meghan worked and supported herself unlike Kate who waited 10 years for the ring. Kate is pictured as "prim and proper" and it is forgotten she posed in her underwear to show William she was "hot."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 11, 2017, 09:04:17 pm
Queen mother wanted badly marry Edward but had settle for Bertie... it's well known she wore trousers in her marriage... and loathed Wallis because she got Edward


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 11, 2017, 10:57:03 pm
The rumour that Elizabeth wanted to marry Edward but settled for Bertie was spread by Lady Colin Campbell in one of her books. In fact there's no truth in it. The Shawcross biography of the Queen Mother has a huge amount of detail about the timeline of the Prince Bertie-Elizabeth Bowes Lyon romance, including excerpts of letters to her closest friends before her engagement, plus a lot of diary entries, and Edward isn't mentioned.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 12, 2017, 12:31:23 am
Ahem, we're getting a little sidetracked no?  ;)
 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 12, 2017, 01:48:12 am
Yep.  Off topic.  This is also not the thread to bang on about PC and Camilla.  Reel it back in.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 12, 2017, 03:01:51 am
Day Harry and his pals shot dead 15 wild boars: Prince used rifle lent to him by William for jolly while Meghan was visiting family in the US and Canada
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But the royal family’s public stance on issues concerning wildlife continues, for many, to be difficult to reconcile with their private love of hunting for sport.
There was no word yesterday from the family of Prince Franz Albrecht zu Oettingen-Spielberg, who invited Harry on the shoot.
Kensington Palace also declined to comment.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5169529/Day-Harry-pals-shot-dead-15-wild-boars.html#ixzz510na34am

A proclaimed animal lover who seems to be ok with Harry killing animals for sport. Well since he's a prince that's ok then.   :cookie:
Bizzare way for the royals and aristros to bond and keep relationships on a good level I guess. he pictures in the article are quite old.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 12, 2017, 03:14:03 am
^ Blood sports seem to be their element  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 12, 2017, 03:31:12 am
How much you wanna bet, if invited, she'll be hunting along with the rest of the gang?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 12, 2017, 04:33:50 am
Gogglebox’s Stephen Webb calls Meghan Markle ‘trouble’ after watching engagement interview

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/02/goggleboxs-stephen-webb-calls-meghan-markle-trouble-after-watching-engagement-interview-7126272/?ito=cbshare
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 12, 2017, 02:26:32 pm
Day Harry and his pals shot dead 15 wild boars: Prince used rifle lent to him by William for jolly while Meghan was visiting family in the US and Canada
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But the royal family’s public stance on issues concerning wildlife continues, for many, to be difficult to reconcile with their private love of hunting for sport.
There was no word yesterday from the family of Prince Franz Albrecht zu Oettingen-Spielberg, who invited Harry on the shoot.
Kensington Palace also declined to comment.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5169529/Day-Harry-pals-shot-dead-15-wild-boars.html#ixzz510na34am

A proclaimed animal lover who seems to be ok with Harry killing animals for sport. Well since he's a prince that's ok then.   :cookie:
Bizzare way for the royals and aristros to bond and keep relationships on a good level I guess. he pictures in the article are quite old.

Well Kate was seen wielding a shotgun and picked up dead birds. And her husband speaks about helping animals. Go figure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 12, 2017, 03:05:33 pm
Meghan Markle is going to have to curtsey to Duchess Kate, just FYI
http://www.celebitchy.com/559320/meghan_markle_is_going_to_have_to_curtsey_to_duchess_kate_just_fyi/

Knew it; Meg will be well beneath Kate in rank, so this is inevitable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 12, 2017, 03:16:26 pm
Prince Harry is just racking up bad karma if he goes around killing that many animals for fun and then but claims he loves wildlife. He is a big hypocrite and I guess that goes with Megan who is a big liar. I was just reading how she claims she didn't know anything about the royal family or it its importance internationally until she started dating Harry. Everyone in Hollywood knows that, and especially people in Canada. Americans know the importance, I they just don't know the history or the actual meaning of a monarchy.. And most Americans didn't know  how Elizabeth got to the throne either until the King's Speech & the Crown had aired. But money and power people get so she is so full of it. And now that I see her on all the magazine covers at the food markets, I see that she is not THAT pretty even with the nose job. And she needs help with her style. Reminds me a lot of Fergie in the early days. I predict they will have trouble in the marriage  a few years down the line and I've always thought that. I recently get look at their astrology charts and this is no match made in heaven. Actually Williams and Kate's charts are very well compatible. Don't dabble much and astrology just a little bit. Anyways I'll close again the knowledge that these two deserve each other. And I agree she'll bypass her animal loving ways to get to that power and wealth and attention.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 12, 2017, 03:21:54 pm
I admit I get very emotional with animal stuff but I still meant what I said.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 12, 2017, 03:31:20 pm
I understand.  Just a small, gentle reminder since you're so new.  Please don't double post.  It confuses things.  Thank you.  Continue and enjoy!  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 12, 2017, 03:39:04 pm
Okay I will learn it correctly. Thank you for your understanding that I'm new and computer illiterate.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 12, 2017, 04:14:11 pm
Prince Harry is just racking up bad karma if he goes around killing that many animals for fun and then but claims he loves wildlife. He is a big hypocrite and I guess that goes with Megan who is a big liar. I was just reading how she claims she didn't know anything about the royal family or it its importance internationally until she started dating Harry. Everyone in Hollywood knows that, and especially people in Canada. Americans know the importance, I they just don't know the history or the actual meaning of a monarchy.. And most Americans didn't know  how Elizabeth got to the throne either until the King's Speech & the Crown had aired. But money and power people get so she is so full of it. And now that I see her on all the magazine covers at the food markets, I see that she is not THAT pretty even with the nose job. And she needs help with her style. Reminds me a lot of Fergie in the early days. I predict they will have trouble in the marriage  a few years down the line and I've always thought that. I recently get look at their astrology charts and this is no match made in heaven. Actually Williams and Kate's charts are very well compatible. Don't dabble much and astrology just a little bit. Anyways I'll close again the knowledge that these two deserve each other. And I agree she'll bypass her animal loving ways to get to that power and wealth and attention.

The King's Speech was not the first one there have been a large number of films and miniseries about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Including one starring Faye Dunaway and Richard Chamberlain and later one starring Jane Seymour and Anthony Andrews. And so many books! There could be a film festival that would last for days based on the number of films.

None of the royals are exactly raving beauties


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 12, 2017, 04:29:01 pm
So why was MM photographed in front of Buckingham Palace then if she had not heard of them in the USA?   :cookie:

I think she's being a little disingenuous. (I'm trying to be kind).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 12, 2017, 04:46:03 pm
I still think she was referring to not having met Harry before and not know him personally. I think her words got twisted by the media


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 12, 2017, 04:49:43 pm
Prince Harry is just racking up bad karma if he goes around killing that many animals for fun and then but claims he loves wildlife. He is a big hypocrite and I guess that goes with Megan who is a big liar. I was just reading how she claims she didn't know anything about the royal family or it its importance internationally until she started dating Harry. Everyone in Hollywood knows that, and especially people in Canada. Americans know the importance, I they just don't know the history or the actual meaning of a monarchy.. And most Americans didn't know  how Elizabeth got to the throne either until the King's Speech & the Crown had aired. But money and power people get so she is so full of it. And now that I see her on all the magazine covers at the food markets, I see that she is not THAT pretty even with the nose job. And she needs help with her style. Reminds me a lot of Fergie in the early days. I predict they will have trouble in the marriage  a few years down the line and I've always thought that. I recently get look at their astrology charts and this is no match made in heaven. Actually Williams and Kate's charts are very well compatible. Don't dabble much and astrology just a little bit. Anyways I'll close again the knowledge that these two deserve each other. And I agree she'll bypass her animal loving ways to get to that power and wealth and attention.

Being a Leo woman myself, it is hard for me to tolerate Virgos. I am attracted to them but I have yet to date one. My brother is Virgo and he is so ridiculous.  :shy: Some famous Virgos that I adore are Keanu Reeves, Chris Pine (Princess Diaries: The Royal Engagement), Idris Elba and the late Paul Walker.

I guessed that Prince Harry was a Virgo just by his actions, or I thought a Gemini, since they can be similar in personality. Chelsy Davy is a Libra and they usually go well with Virgos, (i.e. Will Smith and Jada), so if Chelsy wanted to be a royal, she very well may have been his wife today.

When I found out that Meghan was a Leo, I said to myself "Oh, Harry is in for a world a fun and trouble."  ;)
I'm not gonna lie, I can be determined, cunning and headstrong, but also generous, protective and loving. I can see him being attracted to the latter. Meghan will have to deal with his stubbornness and controlling nature.  :nervous:

All in all, I think this marriage will work unless Meghan wants a divorce because Harry has had an affair and it cripples her emotionally, but I doubt she would leave him. I think these new breed of women, Kate and Meghan, will stick around even if their spouses have an affair, just for the optics (the past divorces of Diana, Fergie, Anne) and their titles. Its almost as if you have to sacrifice or tolerate certain things in that family in order for the public to not shame the family, the press and whatnot.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 12, 2017, 04:55:11 pm
What is the direct quote in which Meghan mentioned not knowing Harry? I refuse to watch that interview  :nervous:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 12, 2017, 05:06:17 pm
I still think she was referring to not having met Harry before and not know him personally. I think her words got twisted by the media
nothing being twisted by the media.... she was clear in interview saying she didnt know much about him or BRF... harry even said people thinks know him because stories written in press


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 12, 2017, 05:26:23 pm
Well she did not know Harry really until she met him. I guess she should have thought first before talking. I don't think she meant she knew "nothing" about them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 12, 2017, 05:34:13 pm
She does not always think before speaking.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 12, 2017, 06:00:32 pm
Yeah, right.  And Yoko didn’t know much about John Lennon, either.  Pull the other one, Sparkles.  There’s an actual spot on comparison if we must do that which I think we’re not supposed to do.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 12, 2017, 06:16:06 pm
Pippa is a leo... lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 12, 2017, 06:19:55 pm
^now that makes sense kate being leo rising


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 12, 2017, 06:45:42 pm
Pippa is a leo... lol

Actually, Pippa is a Virgo, her birthday is September 6th, Harry's September 15th  :nervous:

Pippa's husband is a Virgo too - August 21st.  :nervous:  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 12, 2017, 06:50:34 pm
Toronto Home Rented by Meghan Markle Hits Market
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USA said at the time of the engagement announcement that Ms. Markle, 36, will leave the show at the end of the seventh season in 2018.
A publicist for Ms. Markle referred questions to Kensington Palace, which did not return a request for comment.
https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/83089-toronto-home-rented-by-meghan-markle-hits-market
She still has a publicist and KP is still refusing to answer questions about her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 12, 2017, 07:17:10 pm
Pippa is a leo... lol

Actually, Pippa is a Virgo, her birthday is September 6th, Harry's September 15th  :nervous:

Pippa's husband is a Virgo too - August 21st.  :nervous:  :o

So embarrassing lol I thought I was making a good joke : (


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 12, 2017, 08:37:29 pm
OT but according to astrotheme Pipa is Leo ascendant and Leo Moon.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 12, 2017, 10:29:50 pm
Astrotheme doesn't really know Kate's time of birth. The English records don't record birth time. American records do and so does the RF. So you know MM and PH. You don't really know Kate's.  The woman on Astro.com who claims she knows doesn't say how she knows. I don't think she knows. The best I got was sometime in the afternoon, which rules out Leo Ascendant. Anyway, MM and PH is out for viewing. The one good thing they share is their descendants are opposite which always attracts a marriage but without more doesn't necessarily last. I had that with my ex.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 13, 2017, 12:59:53 am
Well I like to think that she meant that she as an American knew the bigger facts of Harry :
An easy going redhead youngest son of Diana, been in the army, went on tour, build a school in africa for charity and something on the north pole with injured soldiers, bit of a partier, smoked pot at least once, naked vegas, the nazi costume.
Because if I ask regular ppl (BF, coworkers etc) that's usually what I hear about Harry, none knew the name of any gf only that he seems into blonds.

I don't know how much is written on royals in america gossip wise
But when I turn on E-news or pick up a american mag royals usually end up near the end of gossip worthy news
It's only since Kate got that ring that they even rate that much, it's due to the connection with the popular Diana that they are even remotely newsworthy in the states, no?
I mean I never hear them talk about Bea or Madeleine of Sweden even though they live in the States part time!
So before 2010 how much was known to the general american public about Harry? Only those big whoppers that made it internationally right? :dontknow:

So unless she was a royal follower like us she didn't really know much about him, she knew he existed and a few blurts but that's it I think.
She probably knew more details about the Brangelina marriage/divorce then British royals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 13, 2017, 01:42:02 am
In the US, there are two British royals that all women in that age group know about.  Kate the mom and "Princess" and Harry, the eligible bachelor.  And the Queen because she's in the news, of course.  Kate because there is a fan base here of twenty to thirty-somethings and Harry because of the Obamas and his single status.  Any follower of the Obamas knows a lot about Harry just in that alone.

William, since marriage?  No woman in that age bracket cares at all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 13, 2017, 03:56:50 am
I'm in Harry & Meghan's age group. Growing up, the only royals I remember the press talking about ad nauseam were the Brits (QE, Di, Chuck, their kids, Fergie/Andy once they got engaged) and the Grimaldi's thanks to Stephanie's shenanigans. During our teen years, Will was in all the teeny bopper magazines. Harry got plenty of his own pressed. That Obama association is extremely recent. Harry is much more familiar to us 30 & 20 somethings for his Vegas shenanigans, being pictured in a Nazi uniform and his advocacy for vets than for an assumed friendship with the Obamas.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 13, 2017, 04:11:44 am
My point was that if MM was paying any attention to Obama, and she was, that she would’ve been equally interested in Harry’s connection.  It would have added to the fantasy or attraction.  Obama was unheard of before 2007 ot 08.  Maybe it’s a California thing because Harry visited there but he was hot stuff in San Diego around 10 years and forward which fits.

I saw Harry pictures up in offices when he was in the service, too.  The one where he’s catching a ball to the abdomen.  Women paid attention.  Some.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 13, 2017, 10:57:35 am
there was that story of harry licking a male nipple and snorting vodka during his days in military... it was wide world news...

Yeah, right.  And Yoko didn’t know much about John Lennon, either.  Pull the other one, Sparkles.  There’s an actual spot on comparison if we must do that which I think we’re not supposed to do.
her designer friend Misha(?) was married to a school friend of Harry...and meghan had never before heard about harry, c'mon. and her other close friend is markus anderson (soho house guy)... yeah i believe she knew nothing about harry before their blind date


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 13, 2017, 11:11:33 am
Meghan Markle WILL join Prince Harry and the royal family at Sandringham on Christmas Day – even though the couple is not married


She's not yet married to Prince Harry but the Queen has made an exception for Meghan Markle by inviting her to join Christmas festivities at Sandrigham.

A spokesperson for Kensington Palace confirmed the news today, saying: 'You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5174683/amp/Meghan-Markle-Sandringham-Christmas-Day.html?__twitter_impression=true


@RE_DailyMail
Confirmation today that William, Kate, Harry - and, yes, #MeghanMarkle  - will all be at church with the Queen and the rest of the Royal Family on Christmas Day

A KP Spokesman says: "You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day

It's highly unusual for the palace to confirm which royals are attending the Christmas Day festivities. But to be fair, it's only because we, the media, have been nagging them and they have kindly responded


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 13, 2017, 03:29:46 pm
Meghan Markle WILL join Prince Harry and the royal family at Sandringham on Christmas Day – even though the couple is not married


She's not yet married to Prince Harry but the Queen has made an exception for Meghan Markle by inviting her to join Christmas festivities at Sandrigham.

A spokesperson for Kensington Palace confirmed the news today, saying: 'You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5174683/amp/Meghan-Markle-Sandringham-Christmas-Day.html?__twitter_impression=true


@RE_DailyMail
Confirmation today that William, Kate, Harry - and, yes, #MeghanMarkle  - will all be at church with the Queen and the rest of the Royal Family on Christmas Day

A KP Spokesman says: "You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day

It's highly unusual for the palace to confirm which royals are attending the Christmas Day festivities. But to be fair, it's only because we, the media, have been nagging them and they have kindly responded


Wow, just break all the rules, shall we?  :cookie:

I already read about this on Royal Central last week, but now it's confirmed. RC also had a story about her going to the Christmas Luncheon at BP as well.

Oh, yeah, and the DM had that article about H&M staying with Will & Kate during Christmas.

She might as well get fully immersed early on to see what it's like  just in case she wants to run away  lol I DOUBT IT!   :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 13, 2017, 03:34:12 pm
^Please be mindful in the future not to post the quote directly above yours.  It's a space hog.  Use ^s instead.  Thank you.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 13, 2017, 03:43:07 pm
Meghan Markle WILL join Prince Harry and the royal family at Sandringham on Christmas Day – even though the couple is not married


She's not yet married to Prince Harry but the Queen has made an exception for Meghan Markle by inviting her to join Christmas festivities at Sandrigham.

A spokesperson for Kensington Palace confirmed the news today, saying: 'You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5174683/amp/Meghan-Markle-Sandringham-Christmas-Day.html?__twitter_impression=true


@RE_DailyMail
Confirmation today that William, Kate, Harry - and, yes, #MeghanMarkle  - will all be at church with the Queen and the rest of the Royal Family on Christmas Day

A KP Spokesman says: "You can expect to see The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry and Ms Markle at Sandringham on Christmas Day

It's highly unusual for the palace to confirm which royals are attending the Christmas Day festivities. But to be fair, it's only because we, the media, have been nagging them and they have kindly responded

not surprising this confirmation... as us weekly had this royal exclusive too... along with meghan staying at kate & william's... as i said if it appears on us weekly we know it's true...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 13, 2017, 04:51:55 pm
^US Weekly is an American gossip magazine.
Meghan will be a ho for Christmas. Remember the press is jumping at the bit and dropping things about her that aren't flattering but the truth. The DM is subtle but still manages to make their digs like that article about her skimpy dress as Santa's helper when she was on Deal or No Deal game show.
Gossip is rife with something bad about to break regarding Meghan. This would be a great time to let the bomb drop.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 13, 2017, 05:06:16 pm
US Weekly is one of Meggles' go to publications. Connect the dots, folks.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 06:49:32 pm
 If she could get Harry to stop hunting I would be a fan in spite of the fact that she's manipulative and a liar when it suits her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 07:29:23 pm
 I'm also guessing that the reason she's being invited to Christmas even though she's not married yet i's because I have a feeling that she has no religion nor does her mother really. They may be the kind that think there's a higher source and that's what God is so then they may not celebrate Christmas themselves.  She certainly didn't celebrate it with her Jewish husband.  Many non-catholics go to Catholic girls schools. So would be the polite thing to invite her to his family thing if she doesn't have one of her own to go to.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 13, 2017, 07:30:27 pm
^^ Already did. My question is - why Harry continues to do stupid for her. I mean, it's admirable to be the knight in shining armor, but do it for someone worth to fight for.
^ Not excused. She missed Thanksgiving so that she can get a facial for her big acting day. Even if she's not a real christian, she is american and 4th of July and Thanksgiving are sacred and are to be spent with family. She ditched her mom for her big day as if it couldn't wait a day or two. Now she'll ditch her again to go bother the brf during their family time. Not cool.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 13, 2017, 07:43:53 pm
I'm also guessing that the reason she's being invited to Christmas even though she's not married yet i's because I have a feeling that she has no religion nor does her mother really. They may be the kind that think there's a higher source and that's what God is so then they may not celebrate Christmas themselves.  She certainly didn't celebrate it with her Jewish husband.  Many non-catholics go to Catholic girls schools. So would be the polite thing to invite her to his family thing if she doesn't have one of her own to go to.

I do think that she's going to likely experience a lot of problems even Fergie didn't have to face. After all, Fergie was British and also she had her detractors, but it was cushioned by the admiration she had early on. Even Meg doesn't have that at all except among the toadies of the BRF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 07:47:20 pm
Well Fourth of July doesn't matter unless you're in the States because I spent a couple of those in England myself and my ancestors on my father's side fought in the American Revolution and I'm very proud of being an American. The Thanksgiving thing makes me think they just don't have a family thing going out here it may just be her and her mom. Which is why she is not very connected to anything she can leave things very easily.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 07:57:15 pm
Even though it sounds like I'm making excuses for her, just objective observation I don't like her and I think Harry is making a mistake


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 13, 2017, 08:06:16 pm
meghan isnt close to any of her half-siblings?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 13, 2017, 08:18:05 pm
^Nope. I get the impression that even her mom's side of the family didn't have a relationship with her post-childhood. Seems like she went off to college, reinvented herself and cut ties with everyone but her mom. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 08:50:33 pm
It would be hard to cut ties with your hippie loving mom


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 08:53:49 pm
It's interesting because here's a woman that doesn't fit in anywhere or doesn't want to permanently fit in and she's with a guy I guess that doesn't feel he fits in even though he's beloved he must feel like Diana felt inside and I never realize that till now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 13, 2017, 09:03:36 pm
^Double posting is against our rules.  Please keep that in mind moving forward.  TY, YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 13, 2017, 09:04:39 pm
^^^^ To be honest, I'd love to do the same. Cut ties with a great deal of my fam except my parents and grandfather. I can see how Murkles looks bad for having such a dodgy relationship with her family, but looking at my own I can't say that I blame her or view her badly for it. My family consists of plenty of people who only care for themselves, constantly beg for money (and refuse to work), and have a hissy fit and cut contact with you because you want to sell your car, they express interest and you tell them honestly "the car is faulty, it has/ does this and this and I've had trouble for years and just can't stand it anymore, I don't recommend you buy it". And much more with different people, but it all falls into the aforementioned categories. And some people have changed beyond recognition over the years, where I never thought it'd come to that (to the way things are now and how they themselves are). One cousin has become incredibly cheap and even has incited really dumb fights with my mum, another doesn't care for his family at all. Lives ca 200km away from our grandparents, didn't visit them in 3 bloody years and only came once my granny died to her funeral this year. Didn't need to come to that either. A*shole. And our granny was in such a terrible state, they all knew it and no one bothered coming, we had to basically beg my uncle and aunt to go and one of their sons went with them, their other 2 children didn't bother. All 3 are in their 30s. Smh.

I always side-eyed people for "not having family" or having cut ties with everyone or being old and not being in contact with any family, but the older I get, the more I understand that & these people and am getting myself closer and closer to shirking many of my own. With some I have to really watch what I say, because either some of them will gossip all over the place and others will be offended even though I didn't do anything terrible (see above example of the frikkin car). Don't think I'll ever cut ties (a bit too extreme, I don't have quite reason for that - and there are some lovely people in my family), but I'm seriously avoiding some of them and keeping contact low and watching thrice what I say and how I say it. smh.  :thumbsdown:

This was quite a lengthy and personal post, but I really get people who don't have much or any contact with some or all of their family. Don't know obvs what happened between Murkles and hers, but I'll cut her some slack on that front. :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 13, 2017, 09:14:21 pm
I personally have no problem with Meghan having no relationship with her family ...but i was just curious because i remember one of her brothers talking nice things about her... maybe her mother doria doesnt have contact with her family?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 09:17:38 pm
I hope I'm not double posting agan but I totally understand about family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 13, 2017, 09:19:31 pm
I feel the same way about some of my family members. With Marbles, I think she's justified in cutting off her older siblings. They are a hot mess and I'm sure they've been that way for quite some time. However, there's something about it that doesn't sit right with me and it's probably because it reminds me of a girl I know.

This girl is biracial just like Meg and she was known for saying things like, "I'd never date a dark guy because I don't want dark babies." Her dad is black yet she seemed to take issue with it on some level. Fast forward to post college and this girl's social circle is as caucasian as you can get and she keeps her father's identity under wraps unless it can be used to her advantage.

Maybe this is not the case with Marbles but I feel like I've seen this movie before and I didn't like it the first time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 13, 2017, 09:24:42 pm
^^ Double posting is when you post one post and then straight after another, so two (or more) posts of your own appear one under the other!

^ Yikes, sounds a right nightmare that person. Really weird. Don't know, maybe you might be onto sth with that. :think:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 13, 2017, 09:31:00 pm
She has no family in California other than her mother that I know of. I'm sure her mother was not born here like I was. I'm guessing we're the same age. I'm sure her father was not born here either. Her half siblings live in other states. Other than she's born here I don't know that she has that many ties other than her mother and the industry. Of course if she had any good friends left from her childhood they would be here too maybe. So she really has no ties here that she can't break to go to England and have Christmas.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 14, 2017, 01:05:45 am
IMO, Richard Kay's having a laugh at this whole spectacle. A ho is treated better than 2 future queen consorts.  :tehe: 
How Meghan Markle is transforming the Royal Family, by RICHARD KAY: Kate, Camilla and Diana all had to wait... but Harry's fiancee is the first unmarried partner to have Christmas lunch with the QUEEN
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By the time she and Harry leave, Meghan will also have packed in a post-prandial walk and, of course, watched the Queen’s Christmas message on television along with everyone else. Whether the actress suggests the family sit down to watch a couple of episodes of Suits after the monarch’s message remains to be seen.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5177145/Meghan-Markle-transforming-Royal-Family-RICHARD-KAY.html#ixzz51C0UoISB
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 01:12:38 am
She is not a "ho". I think though Camilla is worse than Kate and Meghan.  Camilla displaced a popular consort and I see her as a very cold woman. I hope MEghan and the Queen have a wonderful time at the Christmas lunch. I hope she does work and excel as a royal. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 14, 2017, 01:16:50 am
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She will also need to know who the Queen’s favourites are when it comes to the seating plan for lunch. Usually, it is Princess Anne’s son Peter Phillips and the monarch’s niece Lady Sarah Chatto who sit either side of the Queen. But yesterday some staff were speculating whether the Queen might place herself between Harry and Meghan.
‘Who knows, everything seems to be up for grabs this year,’ says a courtier mischievously.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5177145/Meghan-Markle-transforming-Royal-Family-RICHARD-KAY.html#ixzz51C4gTxXb
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oh really


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 01:21:23 am
For some reason Sandy seems to like Meghan. That's her choice.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 01:37:29 am
I'm not a big fan but I don't think she should be called a "ho." Just saying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 14, 2017, 02:18:29 am
I was flipping through channels last night and I came across a tv special about H&M on TLC  called When Harry Met Meghan: A Royal Engagement.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/TLC-Presents-One-Hour-Special-WHEN-HARRY-MET-MEGHAN-A-ROYAL-ENGAGEMENT-1212-20171211

Either I wasn't paying attention or it didn't make sense as to how they met. I think it mentioned that Meghan was partying at a Soho club in London or Toronto and that's how she met Harry, but everyone has been saying it was a blind date?  :cookie: So a blind date at a Soho club?  :easter-sly:

It sure was funny watching the tv special with my mom because of the things she said about Meghan on just hearing how she talked during clips of their engagement interview. My mom said that she is trying too hard, and I agreed, why try so hard when you already got the job, the job of snagging a royal prince lol



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 14, 2017, 02:27:25 am
Maybe the blind date was at soho


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2017, 02:40:29 am
^Ya got me, Fly.  I think it's something like the Playboy Club, but not sure.  I don't think, tho, that it's a place, by design, that you'd take someone for a first date.  Could be wrong.

^^Wise mom you have.  For me, everyone's trying too hard.  The BRF are trying too hard to appear to be jumping for joy and oh-so thrilled to have her and let's all have a party and skip down the grand hall together and Sparkles is definitely trying too hard on all fronts so the whole thing comes off as the biggest, fattest, phonies lovefest I've ever had to stomach.  Something's so "off" about this whole thing.  Can't put my finger on it but it's one long parade of complete bull%^#+ and it's starting to tick me off.

Somebody, somewhere in this godawful family please appear genuine!  Well, there's always the DoE, thank God.

Note to all.  The word "ho" is offensive but I can't figure out a word to auto censor it with yet because what do I do with ho ho ho, Merry Christmas?  Can we just not use it?  Thanks,  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 14, 2017, 02:41:07 am
The courtier who said everything is up for grabs. Was it really said mischievously or was it sarcastically.   :akasha: I for one believe meagain invited herself to Christmas via that unofficial announcement.   Not like bp can come out now and say she wasn't invited. Arbiter doesn't seem very impressed with it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 14, 2017, 02:48:50 am
If they have a dark room in soho that might explain the 'blind' part of the date....  8)

Well... you know, with Meghan added to the ladies together with Cams and Kate it truly will be a ho ho ho christmas at sandringham :laugh:  lols rofl

(Sorry yooper I couldn't resist  :tehe: :sorry:)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 14, 2017, 02:57:18 am
^^^apologies because I'vve been guilty of using that word.  :flower:  
^maybe she's up for grabs when she's fed to the press. IMO, these other the top articles and the speed of the engagement seems to be building up to something that she's done and the press will have a bountiful Christmas fasting on her "carcus."  The British press is like no other press when they tear a person down.  :cookie:
^see, the word's very appropriate for her and can't be helped.  :tehe:
What strikes me as interesting is that articles kept stating that this romance has been conducted around at Soho Houses around the world. It's not far fetched to believe that she was intentially led to Harry so this romance scam/cat-fish scenario can commence to bring down the scam. Who's to say that high ranking politicians, wealthy families aren't going through the same type of situation that festered out of Soho Houses in other parts of the world. Meghan seems to have a lofty lifestyle on her acting salary that afforded her months off from looking for acting work to go swanning off around Europe for months like she did with Markus and Nono designer woman.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 14, 2017, 02:59:42 am
^ high time to bring it on  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2017, 03:05:58 am
^No kidding.  But, I don't think this is a sprint but a marathon.

^^ and ^^^ You guys!   :tehe:  (Thanks, windsor)

Look.  I'm just getting the feeling that I'm a pigeon on the receiving end of a Hard Sell.  Not sure if that translates but I don't like being treated like a sucker and that's just how this whole thing has started making me feel.  None of the BRF even know this woman well enough to be "changing" or "influenced" by the Power of Meghan.  Give me a break.

Well, anyway, I'm not buying it today.  Nor tomorrow.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 14, 2017, 03:22:08 am
Kinda makes you wonder how she did pull it off, doesn't it?
Blitz engagement that blindsided ppl more the W&K and now the bending of the no-unmarried-ppl-rule at Sandringham? :sly:
Maybe Vegas wasn't the only time Harry went really wild and she got embarrassing stuff hidden away and rather then run to press with it for the quick cash a five minutes of 'fame', she....

Does anyone know what meghan was doing in october 2011? (that's when harry visited San diego)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 14, 2017, 03:33:15 am
^ And maybe Harry is in love with Meghan and she with him, and the Queen and others, yes including the Cambridges, are glad to see a much loved grandson and brother happy with the woman he adores. Maybe they are trying their best for her because she is a stranger to Britain, who wants to settle down in a new country with the man she loves and fit in.

As a longtime Harry follower I was glad to see how happy he was at the engagement interview and in Nothingham. It makes sense for Meghan to join the Royal Household party too, as it gives her a chance to see the rooms full as they will be at the reception and party afterwards. And I hope Meghan is a success as Harry's wife and as a Royal. It will be great all round if she is, and I don't see why she wouldn't be. I wish them both the best, both now and in the future.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2017, 03:46:39 am
^Yep.  Whenever I think of a big, welcoming, warm and open-hearted family, the Windsors are right at the top of the list.  Everyone's been so happy, contented and conflict-free there! 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 14, 2017, 03:52:27 am
^Oh I know Rosella,  :hug:
They are in love, I do have eyes and I did watch that interview!
But you have to admit it's all going very fast compared to previous royal engagements.

Btw in october 2011 Meghan was just married for less then 3 months and she had just started on suits which is filmed in Canada
So I doubt my previous idea has any merit what so ever, but it's always fun to dig and fact check for that non existent gossip... :tehe:  ;)

Why yes Yooper the Windsors are the epiphany of a happy family :loveshower:
Nobody rocking the boat in any shape or form whatsoever! :flirt:
That's why we are all here isn't it? to be inspired by them and their loveliness! :sigh:
 :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 14, 2017, 04:09:42 am
No, I don't think the Windsors are the ideal family at all. In many ways they're the complete opposite. That doesn't mean though that each individual member is automatically unkind, not the Queen and not even, big breath here for me, Kate! I do think that the Queen loves her grandson and is prepared to be welcoming for his sake, and I do think that Will loves his brother and that Kate is fond of him.

I also believe that the Windsors have learned from Diana and from Sarah and the others. Baby steps but Sophie's widowed father was allowed to stay for Xmas at Sandringham, the first inlaw to do so. Mark Phillips's parents complained during his marriage to Anne that they never saw him or their grandchildren at Xmas. Now William and Kate spend the occasional Christmas with the Middletons and no-one says anything. The Middletons impose at Amner but that's another thing.

The children and grandchildren used to spend four or five days at Windsor for Christmas then the senior ones would move on to Sandringham for New Year shoots. Diana wanted to spend Xmas at Althorp one year when her father was in bad health. She was told it wouldn't be possible. Now most senior royals go to Sandringham for two days max and then leave to spend time with other sides of the family. How much has changed! So lessons have been learned, and continue to be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 14, 2017, 04:13:33 am
Harry didnt seem at all happy in the interview, it was rehearsed, and that  :Kate: mag kept jabbing him with her elbow and one point she squeezed his knee when they were discussing the infamous meeting timeline. She was dominant and handed the ginger his nardsack that day.  :shy:

 harry cannot hide his true feelings well. at times he seemed very uncomfortable. what is really creepy is the footage of harry silently mouthing back the jouno's question "was it romantic?" after he and a bathrobe clad meggit did their photo op....you can actually see him mouthing in sync with the reporter"was it romantic" and I dont think it was just an instinct thing, I believe harry knew the question was coming and because the whole thing as scripted and was mirroring the script back to the journo.

Harry is not happy. Im not seeing it. This chick has something on him, he is being controlled and victimized here, even though I dont think he is innocent. after all, what was this blind date at Soho house? is that a nice way of saying, I was set up with a call girl, got blackmailed, and now were getting hitched?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2017, 04:20:32 am
^The whole interview was forced and fake as all get out to me, too.  One embellished story after another sprinkled with New Age nonsense.  What was the comment he made about "I hope she loves me"?  

^^I don't doubt for a minute that Harry's family loves him and that is what is driving some of this.  Where I get annoyed is that somehow it's all because of Sparkles' magnificence and that she, and she alone, has turned the BRF around into the Waltons.  No sale on that one.

I also think that they are doing everything possible to avoid any whiff of overt racism here which bothers me.  There's a lot of emotional blackmail going on, to me, so I'm not going to cave in on the notion that suddenly, because of Meghan Markle, they have collectively had some kind of epiphany and start hugging everyone all day long. Their very survival depends upon tried and true tradition.  This is the honeymoon period.  Let's see how this plays out when she's actually on the payroll.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 14, 2017, 04:24:46 am
^ thats so true about the racism and emotional blackmail. mediameg knows how to play....is that whats called gaslighting?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lilaclavender on December 14, 2017, 04:48:39 am
Harry didnt seem at all happy in the interview, it was rehearsed, and that  :Kate: mag kept jabbing him with her elbow and one point she squeezed his knee when they were discussing the infamous meeting timeline. She was dominant and handed the ginger his nardsack that day.  :shy:
SNIPPED

Lady, you've made an excellent point! :worship: I noticed that too, and at first chalked it up to being playful, but was definitely excessive for this kind of interview. Lighthearted but polished would have been ideal.

Your comment touched a nerve; I recognize myself here from years ago. :ick: Back during those first holiday meals with future in-laws, and a S.O. who didn't have a filter whatsoever back then. Nudging or squeezing in hopes of the wrong thing NOT making it into the conversation or vice versa. It was partly due to a tense and stifling formal atmosphere...and I'd never done that kind of thing before. It was a bad habit for a few years. I'm ashamed, but I can admit I've changed and am more relaxed now for the most part. Besides, when your S.O. reacts loudly with "why are you kicking me under the table?!" you know it's a losing battle  :o

Anyway, you really made a point with that. Or at the very least, made me reflect on what that kind of "controlling" behavior really looks like (whether in a lighthearted celebratory atmosphere, with or w/out an agenda, or otherwise). Hope no one is offended by my getting so personal.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lilaclavender on December 14, 2017, 04:56:35 am
accidental double post (sorry!)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 14, 2017, 05:14:16 am
She's using emotional blackmail to make him feel sorry for her, guilty and compelled to go against his family for her.

It's funny that many of us almost felt sorry for her - her dad's side of the family are really unpleasant bunch but her mom's side of the family are black and imo she ditched them because they don't fit into her narrative. Furthermore, she's not in the Windsor family yet, and she forced herself in an engagement, gate-crushed their Christmas party via Harry's twitter. See, that's not the way to enter any family and I'd be surprised if her own family didn't cut ties with her instead of her cutting ties with them, including her mom.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 14, 2017, 05:21:29 am
Before Kate and William became engaged though, (and I didn't take that much notice of them as I didn't follow their romance too much,) it was years of breathless 'He's about to propose this month, week, because of...' from the media.  And then William didn't and it was back to reporting on Kate's fashions when she went for a walk or drive or shop, as they do now with Pippa. And that went on for absolutely years!

When they did finally become engaged it a whole lot of Cinderella stuff about how she was a breath of fresh air, would transform the monarchy, would hit the ground running etc etc.

So it was full-on, much as it is now with Harry and Meghan. The British tabloids never let go once a wedding is in sight. It's relentless. There are a few things adding extra elements. Meghan's older, so she has more of a past than Kate, she's an actress and American, so there's more to work with.

However, the constant multi stories daily is IMO more a result of the Press being more online in 2017 than it was in 2010/11. That's what makes it seem never ending IMO. It's important to remember though that the public wouldn't absorb more than 1/10th of the articles that all the forums like this one get put online and discuss.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 14, 2017, 07:11:23 am
Hey even if you think she is a ho do not use that term please.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 14, 2017, 10:39:48 am
^^Sorry, didn't fall for Trump's "fake news" defense, won't fall for the "only 1/10th is true" argument, regardless of whom it's coming from or what the topic is about.

Maybe Harry is happy to ignore all the red signs about the type of woman he's about to marry, that's his prerogative. I'm on a gossip site, here to gossip and all gossip is welcome. I don't have to close my eyes to rumors or exposed truths in the media.

I'd also like to exercise my freedom of speech and say that PC should ground PH with no tweets until further notice. He's been announcing things he shouldn't be announcing and he's been misusing his tweeting rights and his position to defy his monarch and that's a  bignono If Harry wants to act like a child he needs to be treated like a child and be grounded.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 14, 2017, 11:40:48 am
From Rebecca English's Twitter. She spoke to a guest at the Royal Household party who saw Meghan and Harry.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/941228580150882304


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: D.I.R. on December 14, 2017, 11:49:29 am
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Rebecca English
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#MeghanMarkle was a surprise guest at the Queen's annual staff Christmas party at Windsor Castle on Monday. One person who met her told me that she was 'charm personified'. 'She held out her hand & said 'Hi, I'm Meghan'. She was unbelievably beautiful and Harry looked so proud.'
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Yes it was definitely a surprise to all those attended. And those that did meet her were absolutely blown away by her elegance and confidence. She's gone down well with the staff, that's for certain!

Rebecca English
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Replying to @_peppersmint_    
Yes, although I don't think I it was a gesture per se. I get the impression that Harry was keen to introduce her. I can imagine it will also help her get used to the 'Royal' way of doing things...
2:35 AM - 14 Dec 2017


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 14, 2017, 12:42:25 pm
she's back to UK?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 01:55:25 pm
I recently looked at Fergie and Andrews engagement interview in a few of their interviews pre-marriage. They were touchy feely and teasing each other and having a really good time. And I forgot how in love Andrew was with her. But there is a big difference between those guys and Meghan and Harry although both were touchy with each other. Fergie and Andrew were very genuine and I do think Megan is trying too hard. But she's probably insecure because she probably i never thought she would be engaged to Prince Harry and married into the Royal Family I mean 3 years ago if you told her that she would probably think you're nuts. It is true that the world has really changed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 14, 2017, 02:16:10 pm
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Have ‘Profound Sense of Commitment’ to Each Other

SIMON PERRY December 14, 2017 07:55 AM
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are showing a “profound sense of commitment” to each other and to marrying in the Church of England, the Archbishop of Canterbury said on Thursday.

Most Revd and Rt Hon Justin Welby, who was named the Archbishop of Canterbury in 2013, has met Harry several times and says that the couple is not going through with a grand religious service out of a sense of tradition .

“I am very, very sure after conversations that this is no tick-box exercise of ‘We ought to get married in church,’ ” he told BBC Radio Four’s Today program. “There is a profound sense of commitment, of seriousness both about faith and about their lives together which is quite inspirational.”

Meghan will be baptized and confirmed in the Church of England before her May wedding. The former Suits actress‘ father is Presbyterian and her mother is a Protestant. Harry — whose grandmother Queen Elizabeth II is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England — was baptized as an Anglican shortly after he was born.
http://people.com/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-profund-sense-commitment-wedding-faith/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 02:46:27 pm
Being raised Catholic I don't understand why she has to be Re baptized in the Anglican Church if she's a Protestant already.  Well I guess they are technically different religions. But if it makes them happy for Megan to be Anglican then good. Well the staff was impressed with her so maybe I'm wrong and she's okay. If she was planning on coming to LA I'm sure she was discouraged because there is no police available for Extra Protection with the fire situation here. And final comment in my post is in the Fergie Andrew interview Fergie kept saying we're a good team. That's exactly what Megan says. Well history does repeat itself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 14, 2017, 02:53:17 pm
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so....  :sigh: William and Harry ..... They are two spoiled men
''What he wants, he can do ''

 :June: the difference is that Harry is more astute.

Example: Harry knew Meghan would travel (for she got off the ''radars''), what does he do?  :tehe:
work the first week after the announcement


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 02:56:48 pm
He also went hunting.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 14, 2017, 03:33:56 pm
Archbishop of Canterbury says on a radio programme that after conversations with them Harry and Meghan show a commitment to each other and to their faith that is 'profound and inspirational.'

http://people.com/royals/prince-harry-meghan-markle-profund-sense-commitment-wedding-faith/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 03:37:00 pm
I get it now she doesn't have to convert she probably just wants to to show  solidarity


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 14, 2017, 03:45:46 pm
when people are to OTT sappy about people makes me question them more


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CathyJane on December 14, 2017, 04:03:56 pm
I thought Harry and ME's interview was very forced. Harry was uncomfortable and not happy; ME was aggressive and borderline rude.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 04:10:00 pm
She was completely controlling stretching her arm over in front of him several times as she gushed. She wears the pants in that relationship. But Harry strikes me as the type if he starts getting annoyed with being controlled he will rebel and do his own thing


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 04:12:37 pm
I don't think either are good at doing these sorts of interviews.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 14, 2017, 04:24:02 pm
I don't know how many interviews Meghan did in her career but Harry has done plenty.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 14, 2017, 07:06:21 pm
The wedding reception is going to look amaaaaazing if it's in this room https://d9y2r2msyxru0.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/styles/rctr-scale-1010w/public/state-rooms-1010w.jpg?itok=Q011xFws



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 14, 2017, 07:38:56 pm
Being raised Catholic I don't understand why she has to be Re baptized in the Anglican Church if she's a Protestant already.  Well I guess they are technically different religions. But if it makes them happy for Megan to be Anglican then good. [...]

It's likely a PR move. She doesn't have to convert. She's a divorcee, American (an immigrant, they're not very popular right now), so my guess is she's doing the "conversion" to look at least a little more English and like she's in it for the long haul and for the British people. I'm actually pretty sure about this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 14, 2017, 07:51:41 pm
^^ good point.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 08:02:01 pm
I don't know how many interviews Meghan did in her career but Harry has done plenty.

Harry has done interviews with people including the now disgraced Matt Lauer. But I think engagement interviews are generally awkward.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 14, 2017, 08:12:53 pm
My only question about this whole thing is how does a man go from saying only last year May in an interview that was seen by millions say that the queen is his boss and basically he owes his allegiance to her (during the IG in the US) to taking up with someone like Meghan who, despite all of this gushing nonsense from some in the press, couldn't pass muster to even be hired as staff never mind being a royal fiancé, who could give two  :akasha: about the British people. Harry's stock/image has been negatively affected by Meghan and how he comes off like a spoilt brat who's giving the finger to the queen and the British people. It's too much to believe that he's gone from a man that has his issues like everyone else but knew what his position was and got on with it to a man who's dragging his inappropriate choice to disturb the queen's Christmas celebrations. Judging from the weirdness of this whole affair and people telling it like it is regarding her merky background and how the royals don't do things like this, this is indeed a game and the outcome should benefit the royal family in the end.
The snippets from the interview that I watched were cringe worthy. Harry saying that the star's aligned and she fell into his life-straight out of a silly romance novel.
Notice that only one person seems to have seen her at the party with the queen and the other one with Waity and Wills; both articles contain no pictures.
What's up with her allegedly being in the U.K. when she has to get her visa work done? The press has been playing games with these articles for sure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 08:17:37 pm
The Queen had the option to say no.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 14, 2017, 08:33:39 pm
^ And have her Majestic Self be called a racist by Meggles?   No, Her Maj was between a rock and a hard place on this one. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 08:41:30 pm
The option was there. But she has 3 divorced children herself and she let two remarry. So that's another reason she did not exercise the option IMO. Plus the fact that she is an American and the if the Queen refused her there might have been repercussions


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 14, 2017, 08:58:30 pm
Liz saying "no" would certainly have unleashed bad press, Murkles has blabbed throughout (& continues to) and she certainly wouldn't have "quietly" disappeared after a refusal.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 14, 2017, 09:08:30 pm
^ and ^^ yes, Meggles is a bomb waiting to detonate.  She's already used the Race Card at the beginning of her "relationship" with Harry.  The Race Card is a quite popular Card to be played here in the US of A.   However, the sexual assault card is gaining in popularity . . . but I digress . . . Also, Meggles is an American Celebrity.   She lurves her publicity and she will not hesitate to use third parties to leak to the press unflattering things about the RF if she is not happy and getting her way.  So, being divorced really has nothing to do with this situation -- it's the fact that Meggles is thin-skinned and ready to use her race and her loose lipped friends who don't give a rat's hiney what the gray men want -- to get what she wants.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 14, 2017, 09:28:37 pm
^i should think that the grey men/spooks would put this trashy woman in her place. A  :akasha: like this can't get away with using emotional blackmail on the British royal family. The press and the people see right through her motives and aren't holding back. She's not really getting what she wants as she's being made fun of. She's not being protected as there's still heavy gossip about her nudes and tape being made public. The press has been dropping hints about her unsavory past/present involving sex. Even Camilla getting all sugary and saying she's such a star. Umm, maybe she's seen the tape already.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 14, 2017, 10:43:49 pm
Camilla hardly is in any position to talk about the engagement. She's not Harry's mother. If the men in grey found something on her (and they did look carefully IMO) she would have been out a long time ago. The press has not been dropping hints, the people posting comments to articles have done this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2017, 11:10:58 pm
It doesn’t matter if they found anything or not.  Harry’s not going to care or listen at this point.  So, that, if anything was found, it would be used at a later, more convenient, time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 14, 2017, 11:37:42 pm
True even if they find something she wouldn't be gone. Harry is in love with Meghan ,and whatever they find the BRF has done it ten fold and worse .maybe if this was around HM time yes ,but with William and Harry nope they letting these boys do what ever they want.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2017, 12:13:07 am
I truly do think that Margaret and Wallis and Edward VIII are owed an apology; they lost so much and Harry gets an exemption.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 15, 2017, 01:09:39 am
'She's going to be a beacon': Idris Elba says Meghan Markle will be a 'role model' for all women in Britain as he meets Prince Charles
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Idris, a former beneficiary of the charity, took time at the bash to lavish praise on Meghan - who is engaged to Prince Harry - as he celebrated Britain's diversity.  
Asked about black and mixed race models, and whether Meghan would be a positive influence on society, he told PA: 'Meghan Markle, as a person, regardless of her colour, is a role model.
'As a strong woman marrying into our royal family, she's going to be a role model for any woman - black, white. The point is that of course our society is one of mixed heritage and it's nice to see Meghan within the royal family.
'It's great. And of course she's going to be a beacon and of course she's going to be someone that people look towards.'
Asked if that is important to him, he replied: 'I think it is. Absolutely. Our country is built on our monarchy, we love our monarchy and it's good to be connected.'
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ValkyrieRidesatDawn, Valhalla, United States, 21 minutes ago
This is risible. Markle is no role model for any young girl. Her sleazy behavior, her cheap, throw-away marriage just six years ago, her flashing her bits, her Instagram feed that had things like "Good in Bed", and that was one of the tame messages she blasted to the world. God help us when Meghan Markle is considered a role model. The only thing she is good for is an example of what NOT to be for young women with morals and decency.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5181259/Idris-Elba-praises-Prince-Harrys-fianc-e-Meghan-Markle.html#ixzz51HrlFdAg
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Love Idris' acting talent that was needed here to keep a straight face saying all of that about Mehgan. Look at how proud he looks to present his girlfriend to Charles.  :flirt:
The Prince's Trust has helped Idris and countless of other people better their lives, so I'm glad to hear it's being celebrated and getting bigger.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 15, 2017, 01:42:37 am
Idris  kisss


Wow people really building Meghan up as the second coming


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 01:44:14 am
I truly do think that Margaret and Wallis and Edward VIII are owed an apology; they lost so much and Harry gets an exemption.

Well the Queen DID open the floodgates by permitting two of her divorced children to remarry. The one that stood out like a sore thumb was her permitting divorced Charles to marry divorced Camilla. the other woman in his first marriage. So the apologies were due to Margaret, Wallis and Edward beginning in the nineties when Princess Anne got to remarry. Harry is hardly the only one to get the "exemption."


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 15, 2017, 02:45:26 am
Archbishop of Canterbury 'to marry Meghan and Harry': Justin Welby believed to have already agreed to conduct the service
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Sources say the leader of the Church of England has even had initial discussions with the Queen’s grandson and his bride-to-be about the ceremony and apparently found them ‘delightful’ and ‘totally committed’ to each other.
It is believed that the Dean of Windsor, The Rt Rev David Conner, will also play a significant part in the service. But it will be Archbishop Welby who pronounces Harry, 33, and Meghan, 36, man and wife.
He is also expected to sit down with the couple for Christian pre-marital counselling sessions in the run-up to their wedding.
Both Kensington Palace and Lambeth Palace declined to comment on the archbishop’s role at the service last night.
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Yah, really bigging her up and making her more consessions for her more than they did for Charles and Camilla.  :cookie:

Mine's a Hairmericano! Suddenly, with Meghan, everyone wants to be brunette and salons are offering colours that match every type of coffee...

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Cheaper to buy a wig.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 15, 2017, 03:04:23 am
This will be like when every woman was running out to buy nude pumps like Kate


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 15, 2017, 03:45:36 am
True even if they find something she wouldn't be gone. Harry is in love with Meghan ,and whatever they find the BRF has done it ten fold and worse .maybe if this was around HM time yes ,but with William and Harry nope they letting these boys do what ever they want.
I think he's in love .... but not by her (Meghan).... and yes , 'idea of the couple modern global '

probably he has an idea/dream that they will be the Obama and Michele (example) of the monarchy.

unfortunately he became an arrogant man   :wopedo:  (especially after invicts and vegas)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 15, 2017, 03:58:03 am
Archbishop of Canterbury 'to marry Meghan and Harry': Justin Welby believed to have already agreed to conduct the service
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Sources say the leader of the Church of England has even had initial discussions with the Queen’s grandson and his bride-to-be about the ceremony and apparently found them ‘delightful’ and ‘totally committed’ to each other.
It is believed that the Dean of Windsor, The Rt Rev David Conner, will also play a significant part in the service. But it will be Archbishop Welby who pronounces Harry, 33, and Meghan, 36, man and wife.
He is also expected to sit down with the couple for Christian pre-marital counselling sessions in the run-up to their wedding.
Both Kensington Palace and Lambeth Palace declined to comment on the archbishop’s role at the service last night.
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Yah, really bigging her up and making her more consessions for her more than they did for Charles and Camilla.  :cookie:

Mine's a Hairmericano! Suddenly, with Meghan, everyone wants to be brunette and salons are offering colours that match every type of coffee...

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Cheaper to buy a wig.  :tehe:

God Help Us.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 04:07:14 am
The Burnett thing started with Kate Middleton and Kim Kardashian. All Meghan is adding is the African texture to her hair, and I doubt people can get that done at a salon nor would anybody want to because Megan spends an awful lot of time taming it look at her pictures when she was young


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2017, 04:53:14 am
General warning:  Any further mention or comparison of Charles and Camilla's past to the recent engagement of Harry on any of the Harry/MM threads will result in the thread being locked or a warning to the poster.  Two warnings, as you may know, constitutes a forum ban for a period of time. 

The Mods have tried nice, insistent reminders to make the comparisons stop but it continues incessantly and we've reached our breaking point.  Enough. Thank you.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 15, 2017, 05:24:17 am
If I mention a few general comments about the CoE:

To be confirmed in the CoE a person does have to have been baptised into a recognised Christian denomination. The fact that she is saying she needs to be baptised suggests that she has never been baptised before. Kate, for instance, got confirmed but had already been baptised so didn't need that step. It may also be that Meghan was baptised Roman Catholic and so has decided to do both the baptism and confirmation in the CoE even though it isn't strictly necessary.

Regarding divorce and the CoE - up until 2002 a person who had been married in the CoE and was then divorced couldn't get remarried within the CoE. The CoE recognised the legal divorce but in the terms of the church regarded the couple as still married which is why for instance Roman Catholics who were divorced were able to marry in the CoE and vice versa but in 2002 the CoE changed its rules. Now if someone has been married in the CoE they can remarry in the CoE so long as neither party was a contributory factor, in the views of the officiating minister, to the breakdown of the previous marriage/s. As Meghan has never been married in the CoE they don't have a problem at all. It is same as Letizia in Spain whose first marriage was only ever a civil marriage and so she could have the full Roman Catholic ceremony when she married Felipe.

What is happening is that the Christian churches are changing their rules to remain relevant to the population. Do we really want to go back to 1936 and have those laws - so that homosexuals are put in prison or people are executed for a range of offences not to mention a range of other changes to laws since then? I would hope that civilisation has moved on since 1936, the 1950s or 1992 or whenever and recognise that someone who as been legally divorced is able to remarry in a church without causing so much angst.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 15, 2017, 11:58:08 am
is it true Meghan and Harry wedding will not be a semi-estate affair (like William' & Kate's)?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 15, 2017, 12:49:41 pm
^That's what I've been reading/hearing over the last couple of days.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 15, 2017, 01:11:03 pm
Just announced that they marry May 19th, 2018 by KP. This really and truly is insane and I can't believe that Harry's really this messed up to bring something like this low life to his family.  :thumbsdown:  Hopefully like Edward, he'll be sent away. This is making him and the royal family look pathetic not inclusive and accepting.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 01:40:04 pm
^^^ Harry and Meghan's wedding won't be a semi-state affair because, unlike William Harry is not the eldest son (of the eldest son.) Semi-State weddings mean that a great many civic and political leaders have to be invited, like Commononwealth leaders for William and for Charles (whose first wedding was a State affair) Heads of State. Some royals may turn up for Harry's, we don't know, perhaps the German relatives, the Greeks, Prince Seiso of Lesotho, people like that.

It will still be a grand affair. Wedding held in one of the most significant and beautiful Royal chapels in England, centuries old, reception in the most Royal castle in England, televised, 800 guests, carriage rides through Windsor for bride, groom and guests, crowds gathered, the couple married by the supreme Pontiff of England, the Archbishop of Canterbury. It will be beautiful, I think.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 02:17:58 pm
Just announced that they marry May 19th, 2018 by KP. This really and truly is insane and I can't believe that Harry's really this messed up to bring something like this low life to his family.  :thumbsdown:  Hopefully like Edward, he'll be sent away. This is making him and the royal family look pathetic not inclusive and accepting.

I'll say it again. The royals are not exactly perfect themselves.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 15, 2017, 02:50:10 pm
Someone has a great sense of humor putting this train wreck wedding on May 19th. It's a big football match day and Anne Boleyn day. Ok, the royal family and Harry's having a laugh.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 15, 2017, 02:52:27 pm
Hurry up 155 days so all this  can be done and over with.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2017, 02:55:53 pm
^Wasn't it 155 days 20 days ago?  Seem endless.  Seriously.  Hurry up and get this over with.  :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 15, 2017, 02:56:36 pm
Can I just put in own pet peeve here please?

Why can't the Dean of Windsor say he'll be pronouncing them as husband and wife not man and wife like he said in the article.

It's like saying the woman's married and not the man. It's like a modern day double standard. Grrrrr.

Pet peeve over.

And I'll not post on this subject again unless it's on topic.


 :sorry: Sorry MODs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 03:04:43 pm
Very few people know or care about Anne Boleyn and the FA Cup begins at 7:30pm long after wedding, carriage rides, even reception are done. Harry has probably arranged a big after reception party at the Castle to go on into the early hours, like William and Kate's at BP.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 03:05:43 pm
After the wedding, next thing that will happen is speculating about pregnancies. Maybe George and Charlotte and new baby will have little cousins through their Aunt Pippa and then through their Uncle Harry and Aunt Meghan. I wonder if Harry will hide the kids like his brother does.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 15, 2017, 03:08:04 pm

Can I just put in own pet peeve here please?

Why can't the Dean of Windsor say he'll be pronouncing them as husband and wife not man and wife like he said in the article.

It's like saying the woman's married and not the man. It's like a modern day double standard. Grrrrr.

Pet peeve over.

And I'll not post on this subject again unless it's on topic.


 :sorry: Sorry MODs.

who knows ,but I get where you coming from it should be husband and wife always

^Wasn't it 155 days 20 days ago?  Seem endless.  Seriously.  Hurry up and get this over with.  :ick:


Yeah it was that was 155 days before May 1st now that we have a date it's now 155 days before May 19  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 04:04:36 pm
 mememe made a lot of sense about the Church of England and Megan was not baptized Catholic because her parents are both Protestants and her husband or ex-husband was Jewish Nothing Catholic about that And like I said many people go to Catholic schools that are not Catholic even Jewish people go to Catholic schools. They are considered very good schools in the United States.
Like our moderator said she is probably doing it for PR and I think to show she's really solidly behind her new to be family. I imagine she's not Christian but some sort of new age Higher Source person because that is how a lot of people in LA are that are into the yoga scene. And she lived her life in La for almost 30 years absent College before she went off to Canada. Peter's wife was Catholic and at the time had to convert or he would have to give up his line for the throne.  Now you don't have to do that.  but I bet religion means not that much to her internally nor her mother which is why Christmas isn't a big deal and she doesn't need to be with her family to celebrate it like other people who have married in the Royal Family. I actually think it's not that big a deal that she's doing Christmas with his family I don't think she's so wonderful that she's making them break tradition. It is really kind of a silly rule. Girlfriends and fiance should go and for that matter so should in-laws if they're close or orphaned like Sophie's father. That is how families are all over the world and they really should be no different if they really are a family and not a bunch of fictitious role players pretending to be a family.

Just remember one thing. This whole thing is so surreal that they would allow Harry to marry and breed with this type of woman, that times are changing rapidly. Anything is possible now. So the way this will unfold is possible in any way imaginable. One will just have to wait and see what happens some years years down the line.
Don't be surprised what it is. But I do think out of disaster will come good, which is a thing I've been Told by many a religious teacher. The royal family may have to be taken down a notch or two before the English people realize what to really do with those people. I just don't see how it can be supported the way it's been. Granted is not my country but I do have a special feeling for it through my grandfather.  and I really think you guys have to get rid of that monarchy down the line. My opinion only and again I'm A Yank, so take it with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 15, 2017, 04:27:52 pm
I feel like I'm psychic sometimes, I was hoping to post yesterday on the wedding thread, but its locked, that the wedding would most likely be on a Saturday like the Windsor Castle weddings of Prince Edward (June 19, 1999) and Peter Philips (May 17, 2008). And today they announce the date.

I thought it would be May 26th though.

My local news channel showed a Facebook poll of people who voted if they care about this wedding and 68% said "No." Ouch.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 04:33:04 pm
It's Victoria Day weekend in Ontario, (in honour of Queen Victoria with fireworks, celebrations etc.) With it being a holiday weekend people from the Suits cast and crew won't be working and can fly over for the wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 15, 2017, 04:43:48 pm
It's time for the magic coin.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 04:59:26 pm
I feel like I'm psychic sometimes, I was hoping to post yesterday on the wedding thread, but its locked, that the wedding would most likely be on a Saturday like the Windsor Castle weddings of Prince Edward (June 19, 1999) and Peter Philips (May 17, 2008). And today they announce the date.

I thought it would be May 26th though.

My local news channel showed a Facebook poll of people who voted if they care about this wedding and 68% said "No." Ouch.  :laugh:

It depends on those who were polled on Facebook. It could be a group of those who don't like Meghan to begin with. Or possibly don't like Harry. It doesn't matter because they are engaged with a date set.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2017, 05:08:56 pm
^^Eek.  You’re right.  I’ll get myself prepared.  Exact text, please, with names, date (got that), place, time.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 15, 2017, 06:12:13 pm
The only thing Harry will be celebrating on May 19th will be the FA finals.  :cookie:
This date makes no sense since the FA cup is a very big deal for the British people and the tv stations and the press. It's huge, so no one will waste time to go to Harry's wedding all the way in Windsor and miss the pre game festivities and getting to the stadium early because of the mass crowds and heavy traffic. IMO, that's why this date is a joke. Harry will be down on the pitch watching the game. The twit can marry herself as that's who she's really in love with.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2017, 06:27:22 pm
I'll take one for the team and watch it livestream.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 06:29:13 pm
^^  Not everyone is interested in football. In fact there are millions of people who aren't, and that includes people who have already lost interest because their teams aren't in the finals. There are also tourists coming in from North America and elsewhere who won't give a continental about the game, and those that won't want to go to Wembley, including tons of females.

Royal weddings always get big crowds, especially with a popular Royal. The crowds will be out in the streets again this time as usual. Niraj Tanna was saying on his Twitter every room in Windsor is already booked. The hotels were booked out within a few days of this wedding being announced.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 06:43:42 pm
Mostly people in the US care more for American sports like baseball and football. I think few here will give up watching the wedding to watch soccer. And in any event it would require people in the USA to get up early to watch the wedding. The festivities will be over later in the morning or early afternoon freeing up time for the rest of the day  here. Baseball games are in the afternoon or evening here and football season is over.

Even if the wedding were scheduled for Super Bowl Sunday there would be no competition, since one event would be early in the morning and the other in prime time.

Besides which this will be a wedding for a senior royal and the next senior royal to be wed perhaps would be George or Charlotte years from now.

The next wedding would probably be one of the York ladies but I don't think there would be nearly enough interest in one of them as there would be for Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 06:49:41 pm
May I ask what you mean by every room is booked now and the hotels were already booked out. Are you talking about hostels and bed and breakfast and rooms in homes? All are booked? I find that hard to believe. But I don't know how small Windsor is. I have never been there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 07:03:26 pm
I have been to Windsor several times. It's a touristy sort of place with hotels and lots of bed and breakfast places. There are villages and towns around Windsor that also cater for tourists. Shortly after the engagement announcement there was a long discussion on Cepe Smith's Twitter regarding accommodation difficulties in and around Windsor as well as access for the international media in one centre, and it was mentioned then that all hotels in the town were reporting provisional bookings being made for May.

I haven't done a survey naturally, but Tanna as a professional photographer would be keeping an eye on the situation and that's what he reported on his Twitter today. Much as I dislike the Cambridges I can remember hotels in central London reporting a huge leap in April bookings at the time they were to marry. I had no reason to disbelieve it as it happens for Royal weddings every time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 07:25:26 pm
Oh thank you for the information. Missed Windsor somehow. Oh well the other thing I realized that was touched on by someone way earlier on this thread is the age of Meghan. She is the same age as when Diana died. Harry is the same age as when Charles married. Small coincidence but a little interesting...then again maybe not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 15, 2017, 07:30:49 pm
^Wow that is pretty interesting.  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 15, 2017, 07:46:36 pm
Yes but Charles was 32 when he married in June 1981. He's like me, birthday at the end of the year so you don't become a year older till then!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 15, 2017, 08:10:29 pm
All I can say is it seems very appropriate that ginger and meggles will marry on the anniversary of Anne Boleyns execution....cant they get married on tower green instead  lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 15, 2017, 08:21:48 pm
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle wedding to clash with FA Cup final

The wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle has been announced for May 19 next year - and it clashes with the FA Cup final.

The date has been set for the occasion at St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle on the same day as the famous cup decider at Wembley.

And it has thrown into doubt whether FA president Prince William - Harry's brother - will present the trophy to the winning captain as usual.

No decision has yet been made by the FA over who will hand over the silverware. Harry is also a supporter of Arsenal, who won the FA Cup last season and were handed their winners medals by William; the Duke of Cambridge.

The Gunners also beat William's beloved Aston Villa in the 2015 final, where he handed losers medals to his Villa heroes.

The FA have confirmed the final will not be moved to another date and Kensington Palace say they will factor in the game as part of their wedding planning.
A Kensington Palace spokesman said: "We are aware of it and we haven't announced times yet. It will be considered as part of the further planning."

Asked why a Saturday, the spokesman said: "They felt it would give the public the greatest opportunity to watch, come out, support and get involved."
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/34651/11171573/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-wedding-to-clash-with-fa-cup-final


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 15, 2017, 08:25:12 pm
^ how odd, why couldnt thay just pick a event free date?  ???


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 15, 2017, 08:48:06 pm
^ I guess the pickings are slim, the weekend before that (I think) is the Windsor (?) horse show, never to be missed by Liz and then there likely isn't much left in May (depending on other penciled in engagements the public doesn't -yet- know about, as things are often planned - at least!- one year in advance).

The clash with the football is bad, sure it's in the evening and the wedding around noon and not everyone follows football, but Britain is a football fanatical country and plenty of people will spend the day travelling or organizing a party. Imo not a good date. :dontknow: Football is huge in Britain and the one country known for hooligans and fanatical crazy football fans (yes that's doubling the fan-atical aspect!) is Britain (actually England). Harry and Will are football crazies themselves...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2017, 09:02:56 pm
I thought Sparkles prounounced that football heals the world or something equally inane.  So, let me have my wedding on that very day and prevent my husband and family from partaking in it!  Yeah!  That adds up perfectly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 15, 2017, 09:38:07 pm
It could be that the FA day is a perfect excuse for some royals to be busy. William for sure. Kate could be busy with baby number 3.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 09:57:22 pm
Kate and William will be there front and center. It would be a hugely bad reflection on them not Harry on Meghan if they skipped the wedding. Harry stood up for William as "best man" and was there at his side. I don't think Will is the type to be nasty to him . And neither is Kate. There would be nannies to watch the baby for a few hours.

The FA can manage nicely without WIlliam or Harry there. It's only a sport! And they can miss one game.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 10:23:55 pm
Oh thank you for the information. Missed Windsor somehow. Oh well the other thing I realized that was touched on by someone way earlier on this thread is the age of Meghan. She is the same age as when Diana died. Harry is the same age as when Charles married. Small coincidence but a little interesting...then again maybe not.

I recall tour buses would go to Windsor as part of tours of the UK.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 10:31:37 pm
Anne Boleyn's execution day? Really...Nooooo. Is that some celebrated day their? Well to each is own. One thing the BRF will put on a nice wedding. Do the taxpayers have to foot that bill as well?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CathyJane on December 15, 2017, 10:36:00 pm
Kate and William will be there front and center. It would be a hugely bad reflection on them not Harry on Meghan if they skipped the wedding. Harry stood up for William as "best man" and was there at his side. I don't think Will is the type to be nasty to him . And neither is Kate. There would be nannies to watch the baby for a few hours.

The FA can manage nicely without WIlliam or Harry there. It's only a sport! And they can miss one game.

Sad thing is, I can see Willy being snarly to Harry on his wedding day. He does it often enough anyway. I do wonder why the date has been so far in advance. Since it's not (probably) going to be a huge lavish affair couldn't the date be set for March or April?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 15, 2017, 10:45:43 pm
I thought that Diana's engagement was about six months before her wedding. But it has been so long I can't remember. How different, Charley age 33 marrying a just turned 20 year old and Harry  33 marrying a seasoned 36  year old. Diana was so young. At that time I didn't realize it being young myself. But now it seems like molestation. Anyway, he is not following in Daddy's footsteps, although Camy is a year older than Charles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2017, 11:28:31 pm
General warning:  Any further mention or comparison of Charles and Camilla's past to the recent engagement of Harry on any of the Harry/MM threads will result in the thread being locked or a warning to the poster.  Two warnings, as you may know, constitutes a forum ban for a period of time. 

The Mods have tried nice, insistent reminders to make the comparisons stop but it continues incessantly and we've reached our breaking point.  Enough. Thank you.  YM

One last reminder. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2017, 11:31:49 pm
Kate and William will be there front and center. It would be a hugely bad reflection on them not Harry on Meghan if they skipped the wedding. Harry stood up for William as "best man" and was there at his side. I don't think Will is the type to be nasty to him . And neither is Kate. There would be nannies to watch the baby for a few hours.

The FA can manage nicely without WIlliam or Harry there. It's only a sport! And they can miss one game.

Sad thing is, I can see Willy being snarly to Harry on his wedding day. He does it often enough anyway. I do wonder why the date has been so far in advance. Since it's not (probably) going to be a huge lavish affair couldn't the date be set for March or April?

It's because of Kate and William's baby being born then.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 16, 2017, 01:22:08 am
Well after reading everything on this post I must say this is a very interesting engagement.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on December 16, 2017, 04:56:34 am
When is Markles bestowed with a thread of her own?  Cressida and Chelsy have threads, and they were not even engaged to Harry.

  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 16, 2017, 08:48:03 am
Their threads are in off royalty board.  8) In a hurry to get MeAgain in the offroyalty...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 16, 2017, 05:24:46 pm
Harry and Meghan’s £1bn wedding gift to Britain: Party weekend to celebrate their marriage (and the FA Cup Final) ‘will be massive boost to the economy’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5185809/Harry-Meghans-wedding-boost-economy-1bn.html#ixzz51RdTPRGf

The only thing the British will be celebrating is the FA cup with Harry in attendance hopefully watching his team, Arsenal play for the cup.  :cookie: 
Anne Boleyn was known as th great *sleazy*, who became the most despised woman in Britain and got her head chopped off on May 19. Meghan will keep her head but be humiliated as her nasty past keeps coming out in the press that she could take that title today. Also, a few people keep saying that Windosr ill be closed on that day and not for a wedding; closed as in staff getting time off. :tehe:
https://www.theanneboleynfiles.com/anne-boleyn-the-great-*sleazy*/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 16, 2017, 06:07:55 pm
^How are they turning it into a party weekend when there was already going to be a party? If this wedding were happening on Friday and in London, I might be more inclined to say people will fly in/take off work and turn it into a 3 or 4 day weekend. To me, the above makes me wonder who they are trying to convince: the public or themselves. They need to stop trying to make fetch happen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: D.I.R. on December 16, 2017, 06:23:25 pm
 :sigh: yeah, Anne Boleyn is Kate Middleton Aunt... so the apple doesn't fall from the tree, it's Déjà vu.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 16, 2017, 10:33:38 pm
The FA Cup already brings in around 1 billion pounds a year so what is Harry's wedding adding to it - another billion or not actually adding anything but being credit for something that is already happening?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 17, 2017, 12:25:05 am
According to WhatKateWore, there was another party that Harry & Meg attended with Will & Kate on Dec. 13th - the Kensington Palace Xmas Party.

Written in the DM article below, Harry & Meg left much earlier and so no pictures of them.   :sly:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5180337/William-Kate-leave-trendy-Notting-Hill-bar.html#ixzz51MA8HeHm


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 17, 2017, 12:38:22 am
'Dear Kremlin Barbie: still not getting an invite': Ivanka Trump is slammed on Twitter for wishing Prince Harry and Meghan Markle a happy marriage
Quote
Trump wrote in the post: 'Wishing Meghan and Prince Harry a lifetime of love, laughter and happiness together.'
She added: 'I have no doubt that this couple will do extraordinary things, both individually and collectively. Congratulations!'
Some snarky social media users insisted the sweet thoughts weren't going to get her family an invite to the royal ceremony.
'Dear Kremlin Barbie: still not getting an invite,' one Twitter user wrote afterward, which received over 1,000 likes.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5186847/Twitter-users-mock-Ivanka-Trump-royal-wedding-message.html#ixzz51TQTgH53
 :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 17, 2017, 01:00:01 am
^"Kremlin Barbie" :laugh: Damn, that's cold. I don't think Ivanka expects an invite, just attention for her tweets of congrats to Harry & Meg.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Grey Mare on December 17, 2017, 01:11:35 am
Wow, no big wedding in the center of London, no balcony and it's scheduled on the same day as the FA Cup Final.  The RF is really trying to make sure that this wedding is as low key as possible. 

:sigh: yeah, Anne Boleyn is Kate Middleton Aunt... so the apple doesn't fall from the tree, it's Déjà vu.

Kate's connection to Mary Boleyn was disproven a few years back.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2017, 01:51:16 am
NOt everybody is passionate about soccer. The wedding might be a welcome relief for some.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 17, 2017, 01:54:06 am
RACHEL JOHNSON: Meghan is sleeping at Sandringham! Has the world gone mad?
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Which is lovely! But it’s also unprecedented. Harry and Meghan are engaged but not yet married.
Plus, thus far the Royals have followed very proper and Victorian etiquette for this formal family celebration. Di, Fergie, etc were not included until their heads were firmly in the noose, sorry, I mean until they’d trooped up the aisle and down again.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5187111/Meghan-sleeping-Sandringham-world-gone-mad.html#ixzz51TitU5fs

Sausages for breakfast, turkey for lunch, a BOAR'S HEAD for dinner... and some posh mints to finish off: What the Royals REALLY get up to at a Sandringham Christmas
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5186803/What-Royals-REALLY-Sandringham-Christmas.html#ixzz51TlTCncT


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 17, 2017, 06:22:04 am
^^^^ Can you imagine the eye rolling at the news:
Meghan: Papa C, wonderful news, Harry invites his friends, the Obamas and I invites my friends: the Kushners.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 17, 2017, 11:30:15 am
NOt everybody is passionate about soccer. The wedding might be a welcome relief for some.


obviously you arent aware about this part of England's culture.

Wow, no big wedding in the center of London, no balcony and it's scheduled on the same day as the FA Cup Final.  The RF is really trying to make sure that this wedding is as low key as possible
good points. agree with you


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Val on December 17, 2017, 11:39:01 am
I was very shocked to read this comment on an article about PH and MM in a well known newspaper.

'Re MM moving in with PH one of the commenters said "Google Meghan Markle Porn Videos"... h   According to the link she has starred in many racy videos.  They should make for interesting dinner conversations in the stately homes of England...

It didn't take long after the engagement for the media and public to start digging.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 17, 2017, 11:50:04 am
The wedding will most probably be late morning, the carriage ride through Windsor in the early afternoon. The FA Cup final will be televised in the evening from 5:30pm so no clash. The wedding will almost certainly be televised worldwide so it's certainly not going to be low key. The BRF will be out in force. The reception to be held in one of the oldest and most prestigious castles in Europe, and there'll be carriages and horses, the whole bit.

It's thought that the 19th was chosen because it is Victoria Day in Ontario, meaning no work for the cast and crew of Suits that weekend. Guests from the show can fly there and attend the wedding and be back by Monday.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 17, 2017, 12:07:53 pm
^ If the rumors are right the crew is not in cordial terms with her and if they show up it will be because it will be part of their suits promotion contracts

There's an instagram account, rumored to be unofficially Meghan, that leaks that FA will be moved to Sunday the 20th. If true, sweet baby Jesus, Meghan has clearly never seen a soccer fan's rage and if she ruins with her shenanigans the Saturday evening FA cup final for soccer fans all over Europe, ohh well - UK will not be the only place in Europe she's not warmly welcomed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Spitfire on December 17, 2017, 12:16:39 pm
The FA could be under pressure from PW as he is their President, but they should hold out and keep the Final to its traditional time of 3pm on a Saturday.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 17, 2017, 12:18:03 pm
^The FA has already officially stated that the match will not be moved. As for people on Suits her on-screen boyfriend and on-screen dad posted loving messages on their Twitter pages to Meghan when she got engaged. We will see whether Suits actors come to the wedding, won't we? Won't be anything to do with contracts though.

^^^^ Rumours are rumours, including those non-existent porn videos the Tumblr witches and their little acolytes have been banging about for the last six months that were  going to appear soon, soon! Commenters on the DM and other tabloid sites are just a load of rabble anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Spitfire on December 17, 2017, 12:24:24 pm

Good...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 17, 2017, 01:22:39 pm
^^Is it loving, is it acting loving, it really depends on the voice you want to read the tweet with.
I'll continue saying - it is convenient to try to dismiss the negative commenters as something wrong with the commenters but if there is smoke, there is fire.

If Harry wants to keep his eyes closed, his problem, but I read carefully the comments and none are positive. IF he wanted someone good for the job, Meghan is the worst possible person for it cause she's not a positive role model. If I had a daughter I'd be very worried about the message that she's getting from people like Meghan: sleep your way up, blackmail, threaten with lawyers, play the victim, control your victims with emotional blackmail and you'll become a duchess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 17, 2017, 01:44:13 pm
An article about Meghan beginning her working life at a frozen yoghurt and fast food store in her mid teens, working after school and at weekends.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/893347/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-royal-family-Yasmine-Bleeth-Baywatch-engagement-wedding


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 17, 2017, 02:59:36 pm
^^Is it loving, is it acting loving, it really depends on the voice you want to read the tweet with.
I'll continue saying - it is convenient to try to dismiss the negative commenters as something wrong with the commenters but if there is smoke, there is fire.

If Harry wants to keep his eyes closed, his problem, but I read carefully the comments and none are positive. IF he wanted someone good for the job, Meghan is the worst possible person for it cause she's not a positive role model. If I had a daughter I'd be very worried about the message that she's getting from people like Meghan: sleep your way up, blackmail, threaten with lawyers, play the victim, control your victims with emotional blackmail and you'll become a duchess.

Harry is the one who decided to marry her and got approval from the family. It does not matter what the commentators think, they have no real say in the matter. A role model is in the eye of the beholder. Harry would not marry her if he was "blackmailed" and no she did not sleep her way to the top. If she is that vile as her detractors say she would have been history ages ago.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 17, 2017, 03:09:29 pm
^As a reminder as to what this gossip site is about and watch the dismissive tone to other posters please.  I mean it.

  gos·sip
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noun
1.
casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 17, 2017, 03:14:25 pm
Hey, Ariel. What's the handle for the Instagram account you were speaking of? If you don't feel comfortable posting it in the thread, feel free to private message me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 17, 2017, 04:05:04 pm
^ I'd like to know as well :shy: :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 17, 2017, 04:09:42 pm
Well if there are nude racy videos of Marbles out there, Harry and Marbles can put them on the shelf and compare who is the racist of them all. My money's on Harry. In some respects they are suited.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 17, 2017, 07:34:47 pm
Could Prince William attend the FA Cup final? Kensington Palace insists Harry and Meghan's May 19 wedding 'will not clash' with the match
Kensington Palace refused to confirm or deny William was planning to be at Wembley, and a spokesman would only say the two events will not take place at the same time, reports the Telegraph. 
The spokesman said: 'We have not gone into the timing of the the wedding but made it clear that the wedding and the FA cup final will not clash,' she said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5188115/William-attend-FA-Cup-final-Harrys-wedding-day.html#ixzz51Y2lQBDx


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 17, 2017, 08:07:06 pm
^now .....  :cookie: imagine if

William marrying the day of a Harry event (rugby cup)

Harry's fans would be attack / complaining about William and Kate

not to mention more spending on security at two events :sigh: but Harry always has what he wants.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 17, 2017, 08:20:03 pm
I doubt there will be much TV coverage as there won't be filming inside St George's Chapel. H and willy are always moaning about press Intrusion so  it might be best if the media were to ignore it altogether but if course they won't.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 17, 2017, 08:25:52 pm
Didn't Edward marry there? It was televised afaik.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 17, 2017, 08:33:55 pm
These porn videos were made long before MM met PH and how did the makers know at that time that MM would become part of the RF

As for  the fact ER has given her permission for this marriage, it isn't the first time she has allowed a totally unsuitable person to bEcome a royal bride so her permission in this instance   means diddley squit IMHO. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 17, 2017, 08:56:34 pm
^^ Ed and Sophie did indeed marry at St George's, and it was televised. Overseas channels showed it including US and Canadian ones.

 I've just been lurking on some Tumblr sites btw for my daily early morning laugh and the lies they're peddling on there are like something from an alternate universe. St George's has always been a Royal peculiar Chapel yet they're saying, even in the face of the Wessex and Phillips wedding there, that because it is a Chapel not a 'church' that it will be a civil marriage conducted for Harry/Meghan and the Archbishop of Canterbury therefore can't marry them! Boy, are they going to get a surprise come May!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 17, 2017, 09:00:39 pm
Ariel,

Would you mind PMing me the name of the tumblr site too please?

I'd really love to read it.

Thanks

 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 18, 2017, 12:05:12 am
Marion, it doesn't matter. She's a nasty woman who's unsuitable to be a member of the royal family. Period. I can't imagine watching her do porn and then having to meet her and be deferential to her not to mention havng her be patrone to charities. This is the only thing that should happen to avoid that  :akasha: (the GW) having anything to do with the royal family Harry to step down and take his t*rt with him.
Prince Harry 'may ABANDON royal duties to spend more time with beauty Meghan Markle'
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/828920/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-royal-duties-engagement-marriage-Queen-Kate-Middleton
The source is from a rubbish gossip magazine.
Allegidly, Monday, December 18th is the Christmas lunch at Buckingham Palace where the extended royal family gets a chance to hang out together. People expect to see Meghan there.  bignono


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: leogirl on December 18, 2017, 12:43:21 am
Re: why the wedding is so far out, these things have to be booked far in advance. Some venues are booked a year or more ahead of time. Also, they have to check the senior royals' schedules to make sure they can all attend.

^ Are there really so few women that haven't done nudes/porn that Harry couldn't find someone to marry who hasn't done those things?  :-X :- ???


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 12:52:33 am
Harry can't possibly abandon royal duties. So many rumors so little time.

Harry is not "virginal" himself. He did his own "nude scenes." He's been around the block quite a few times himself.

I am curious if he is not after having the "normal" job like his brother, only he's doing the "interviewing" like he's a journalist. Would he donate his salary to "charity" too?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 18, 2017, 12:57:23 am
^^that's why I believe this is a farce and her nsty choices in life will be exposed for all to see. Charles is supposed to be out of town that day and we know that Wills will be at the FA cup final. Meanwhile, the press continues to slag her off.
Will THIS be Meghan's wedding dress designer? Israeli brand Inbal Dror 'has received an official request from the palace for a sketch' (and Beyonce's a fan too)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5188469/Will-Meghans-wedding-dress-designer.html#ixzz51ZMo3x8G
 :tehe:
^^Mehgan has nudes and a nasty videos. She willingly made these choices.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 01:06:32 am
I think William will get a replacement to attend the cup for him. It's not as if he is going to go out there and play much less be a sports star.

Charles will be at the wedding.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: leogirl on December 18, 2017, 01:29:33 am
What salary? I thought Harry quit his army job 2 1/2 years ago?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 01:30:49 am
I was somewhat startled by all of a sudden Harry being a "guest interviewer." Where did that come from? Would he want $$$ for it?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 18, 2017, 03:50:25 am
The FA cup final is one of the most watched sporting events in the world. I can't think of too many events that would get a larger international audience on an annual basis that that match. Soccer is the national sport of most nations in the world and England is no different. Interestingly the wedding isn't only on the same day as the English FA Cup final but the Scottish as well - and they are never on at the same time. Of course William isn't involved with the Scottish FA only the English but still to put the wedding on the biggest football day in England and Scotland is madness. A lot of people don't just watch the game but make a day of it e.g. start partying hours before the game - watch the Scottish game, more partying, watch the English game and then continue partying.

My friends and I have made out plans clear - going to a local football match (not sure whether is will be Aussie Rules, Rugby or Rugby League yet but one of them - get home around 11.00 in time to watch the Scottish FA Cup final before watching the English one). No time to fit in a royal wedding and given the massive amounts of money our TV stations pay for the rights to these sports I can imagine that the sports will insist that they show the local games rather than the wedding - so maybe the ABC will be the only channel, on free to air, compared to everyone with William and Kate.

They obviously knew the date before the engagement was announced as it was reported on that day that the weekend of the 20th May had been locked in as being unavailable to the public so they knew the date well in advance of announcing the engagement as otherwise they wouldn't already have that weekend booked out.

I love the fact that some people think you can't get married in a chapel - tell that to Queen Victoria who married in the Chapel Royal at St James' Palace. They obviously don't know what a chapel means.

This wedding will be televised of course - as was Edward and Sophie's wedding and Charles and Camilla's blessing service in that same venue. That has already been announced and I would expect either the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Dean of Windsor to perform the ceremony with my money being on the Archbishop.

I was recently doing some shopping and either the No Idea or Women's Drivel (can't remember) had the following predictions - William and Kate to have a daughter called Victoria, Harry and Meghan to be pregnant almost immediately with a child early in 2019 but ... for the marriage to basically not last more than 10 years. I love these predictions to see how accurate these 'psychics' actually are.

Sorry if this seems to be a rambling post but it was more a series of responses to earlier comments and I know I can't post multiple successive posts and I am not good at multiple quoting.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2017, 03:58:01 am
I was somewhat startled by all of a sudden Harry being a "guest interviewer."
Where did that come from? Would he want $$$ for it?

I think Harry has lost the plot.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 02:10:20 pm
The predictions by the psychics are reasonable and can all come true. Then again not. MM is mature and H has said they will start a family soon. 2019 is a good bet for their first child. Victoria for a Cambridge girl is likely. And 10 years for their marriage is generous if it is as doomed as many think. When it comes to the wedding date, the BRF know what they are doing given experience and all the advisors on this function. I'm sure people will watch both who care about both. If not, watch the rerun. If sports are anything like here, many will be partying too hard to bother watching the wedding live.. Anyway, if terrorists want to strike, the sport event is more likely a choice based on the past strikes at concerts. So they may actually feel safer to we'd that day.5


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 18, 2017, 02:12:52 pm
^Well, the good news is that if people party hard during the game they won't have to watch the wedding sober!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 02:20:30 pm
The FA cup final is one of the most watched sporting events in the world. I can't think of too many events that would get a larger international audience on an annual basis that that match. Soccer is the national sport of most nations in the world and England is no different. Interestingly the wedding isn't only on the same day as the English FA Cup final but the Scottish as well - and they are never on at the same time. Of course William isn't involved with the Scottish FA only the English but still to put the wedding on the biggest football day in England and Scotland is madness. A lot of people don't just watch the game but make a day of it e.g. start partying hours before the game - watch the Scottish game, more partying, watch the English game and then continue partying.

My friends and I have made out plans clear - going to a local football match (not sure whether is will be Aussie Rules, Rugby or Rugby League yet but one of them - get home around 11.00 in time to watch the Scottish FA Cup final before watching the English one). No time to fit in a royal wedding and given the massive amounts of money our TV stations pay for the rights to these sports I can imagine that the sports will insist that they show the local games rather than the wedding - so maybe the ABC will be the only channel, on free to air, compared to everyone with William and Kate.

They obviously knew the date before the engagement was announced as it was reported on that day that the weekend of the 20th May had been locked in as being unavailable to the public so they knew the date well in advance of announcing the engagement as otherwise they wouldn't already have that weekend booked out.

I love the fact that some people think you can't get married in a chapel - tell that to Queen Victoria who married in the Chapel Royal at St James' Palace. They obviously don't know what a chapel means.

This wedding will be televised of course - as was Edward and Sophie's wedding and Charles and Camilla's blessing service in that same venue. That has already been announced and I would expect either the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Dean of Windsor to perform the ceremony with my money being on the Archbishop.

I was recently doing some shopping and either the No Idea or Women's Drivel (can't remember) had the following predictions - William and Kate to have a daughter called Victoria, Harry and Meghan to be pregnant almost immediately with a child early in 2019 but ... for the marriage to basically not last more than 10 years. I love these predictions to see how accurate these 'psychics' actually are.

Sorry if this seems to be a rambling post but it was more a series of responses to earlier comments and I know I can't post multiple successive posts and I am not good at multiple quoting.

I think it sad that these psychics have to be such downers about the marriage breaking up they have no clue. I think couples should not listen to this just do the plain old fashioned thing of working on their own marriages

The US has dedicated channels to these matches they are not on the main stations like ABC, CBS, NBC. I think NBC will be the station the wedding is shown on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 02:32:31 pm
YM you are too funny!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 18, 2017, 02:45:15 pm
not believe they're going to divorce.  :-X
it is easier ... Harry/Meghan to follow the 'path' : Duke Windsor or Prince Michael


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2017, 02:51:13 pm
Harry won't give it up; he won't give up an iota of his privileges.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 03:05:29 pm
Following the path depends on the woman. This life for Megan may be great. But it was not great for Fergie. And Megan has more of a Fergie personality than she has a Kate personality. She has been known to be outspoken. She is going to have to curtail her real personality to make this work in the Royal Family. If she wants to do that great.Then it will last. But down the line when she is famous enough in her own right and is entitled to enough money from a divorce, she could go back to acting and be world famous without the Royal Family except for the title she got from them and the children/money. She will do fine on her own. So I do think this could go either way in years. Because he's picking a far more independent person like his mother, nothing is sure in that family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 03:27:50 pm
Fergie did not get a University  degree, she seemed very flighty.

Both M and H have to work on the marriage for it to succeed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 18, 2017, 04:30:59 pm
I, for one, cannot wait for a week from today when Meggles mingles with the Royal Family on Christmas.  What fun it shall be!!!   The looks on the faces, the body language, the various female members trying to outdo each other in their fashions, Meggles working it to the nth degree . . . oh, yes, an amusing day, to be sure!   

 :goodnight:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 18, 2017, 05:22:25 pm
^^^^^^ Lots of people seem to be giving a thumbs down on the chances of success for these two people. It could be that it's a tiny bit too rushed.

^Me too. I'll be busy during the day otherwise I'd love to watch this soap opera episode live on twitter, instagram, tumblr, DM and here. It will be epic.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 05:31:54 pm
Hmmm. Maybe all the naysaying will give them more incentive to really work on making the marriage a success. It does take work. The real work will begin after the ceremony.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 05:43:18 pm
I don't know that having a college education means much for marriage. Harry does not have one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 18, 2017, 06:39:06 pm
^You are correct.  A college degree is designed to allow you to have and advance in a professional career which these two do not have.  They are not hired, they have no outside competition and they are at the zenith in their roles.  That will drive her to distraction when she finally gets it that she can aim no higher.  Ever. 

Unless she leaves and uses this marriage as a stepping stone which I firmly believe she will. People like Sparkles want more.  Always.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2017, 07:05:53 pm
Well those royals who get the University degree are praised to the skies like it's unheard of for anybody else to get a university degree. IMO anyway.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 18, 2017, 07:19:50 pm
In theory, according to some studies, people with university degrees are more likely to have a successful marriage and the chances for divorce drop significantly; same for people who marry after their 25th bday.
Meghan has already proven, however, that exceptions exist (like they usually do)... :cookie: 8) :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 07:45:00 pm
I could't agree more with our YM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Grey Mare on December 18, 2017, 09:41:46 pm
I, for one, cannot wait for a week from today when Meggles mingles with the Royal Family on Christmas.  

Yeah, but this visit is clearly a set up and/or a job interview.  The RF and their attorneys  :tehe:  are probably going to sit Meghan down and have a very long discussion with her in order to get to know her and determine what her real motives are.  In addition, they will probably try to give her a better understanding of what her future is going to be like as a member of the RF, so that when this Christmas is over, Meghan will have five months to decide if she really wants to go through with this marriage.  Meghan is going to get a reality check.

I think it sad that these psychics have to be such downers about the marriage breaking up they have no clue.

You don't need to be a psychic to know that this marriage is not going to last.  I am betting on two years because that's about how long Meghan was married to her first husband.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 18, 2017, 11:09:30 pm
MM lived with her husband for 7 years before they got married, so I'd give it a good five years or more. When she's in her 40s, especially late 40s, she is going to want to step things up for herself, if they are not going as well as she envisions they should. She'll still look young and won't have hit menopause, which can be very hard for some. So that's when I think, her type may get restless and want out. It is the nature of the beast. She may have to leave the Palace, but she will have enough money (accrued in the marriage) by that time and opportunities in film and such to buy her own estates, find other rich men and live freely. She may stay very friendly with Harry, but that won't stop her from pursuing more opportunities in her life. Harry will never want for available women both suitable and not. So in time things between them may not work out to be fairy tale ever after. In five years or so if I'm still on this chat board, the MM fans can tell me I'm totally wrong. I can't imagine anyone close to them really thinking this is for sure solid down the line. It is a gamble.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 18, 2017, 11:24:35 pm
 psychics are only to be believe if its all sunshine and rainbows  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 12:37:55 am
They should be prepared to work on the marriage. The difficult part is after the wedding ceremony


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 19, 2017, 06:14:33 am
^ True but if you have work on your marriage before you even start your marriage it's not a good sign.
I also give them 2 years. 5 years with Trevor and then 2 years in marriage, some years with Corey less than two years living in.

If the BRF prevent her from becoming an outspoken and bold in her dresses second coming of Diana, two years is the most she'll bear until she ask for the alimony and the child support (if there's any children).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 09:38:34 am
I thought that Trevor and her lived together for 7 years but maybe they dated for 2 years, lived together for 5 years, and then married for 2 years. In any event they were together a long time before they were married, and then it didn't work. And some friends seem to think she got too big for him after she got her role in Suits. So when they got married she was living or about to move to Canada and they saw each other every two weeks. With Harry they dated living in separate countries seeing each other every two weeks. Now they're going to live together and they'll see how they get along for 6 months before they get married. Her romances are are quirky which is why I don't think she's the most stable person for a lasting relationship.  Circumstances can change her love. And I am not sure how loyal Harry will turn out either for that matter. Like I said before it's a gamble.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 19, 2017, 02:47:44 pm
^ I've read some comments, saying that pretty much Trevor got her the role in Suits and she didn't bother going to LA regularly to see him and to make it work once she was cast and in Canada, which ultimately (surprise!) lead to the downfall of the marriage.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
I hope that's not true. Because if it is, Harry is making a big mistake, and bigger than I previously had thought.. Trevor is awfully quiet. Either he is the kindest person, has been paid off like the sister (I think), or she wasn't that bad to him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 03:16:21 pm
Maybe Trevor is just a nice guy and discreet which is the way people should behave. IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 03:24:41 pm
To Sandy's credit, always the optimist on this couple. I am just too on the fence about her for Harry. Again I could easily be proved wrong.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 19, 2017, 03:32:42 pm
^ lol truly, have to hand it to sandy staying positive and trying to inject some positive sense into it all :)  :thumbsup:

^^^^ Their marriage went the way of a lead balloon obvs, instead of "led to the downfall". English homophones and homographs drive me crazy sometimes  :NOwhy: :angry: :egg: :runforhills: :looky:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 03:48:58 pm
Trevor may be discreet  but it could be he's waiting till after they're married to be interviewed about his marriage to her or even say anything about it. He'll be worth more money after she's married to Harry in terms of what anyone would pay him to talk about her. And he could be afraid she could sue him for alienation of affections if she broke up with Harry because of him. He's here in Los Angeles and believe me she could file a suit here.  But this is just me living in Hollywood land and knowing how people react to things in the industry. He is set to be making a movie or rather really just in pre-production about a man who loses his wife to a prince. And if his story is told in that movie he's very well could make a lot of money on it and be able to say it's fiction when it's based on facts in his marriage. So the verdicts out on whether he's really discreet or not till after they're married.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 03:58:12 pm
Hewitt sold his story and it did not do him any good. He squandered the money and is living with his mother today.

Better to earn an honest living than sell out to the media. IMO anyway.

These sort of people more or less become pariahs as Hewitt found out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 19, 2017, 04:01:54 pm
In the US it might be different; he has a career and has a life of his own.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 04:11:59 pm
All the more reason to advance in his career. IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 19, 2017, 04:16:32 pm
Prince Harry We Day Canada September 25, 2017 I believe said to the young audience:
"In this clickbait culture, we cannot waste time sharing things that make us angry. We are happier when we work in the service of others."
So wtf is he doing with a woman like Meghan who's self-serving and ticking the U.K. people off? The press is on her back but if this isn't an example of using her as what the youth shouldn't do, the they should be in him and brand him a hypocrite. IMO, she's the perfect example of someone who ruined her life by living a lie via the internet. She put out a lifestyle that's beyond her means and lying about being an empowered woman and independent who'll not compromise her principles. She's the opposite of helping the young become leaders as Harry is aimed at doing. So it'll make sense if she's an example of what the young shouldn't be doing because it'll lead to ruination; as in "I don't want to get Markle."; life ruined by gread, lies and ambition aided by social media. I hope this makes sense.
I can't see how this wedding will get approved with Meghan allegedly making bad comments about the royals and Waity being lazy and her nudes and sex tape as well as a possible marriage prior to Trever, oh, and her legal name not being used in any announcements. Then there's the visa issue and God knows what else. How can Harry expect to maintain his current position and inspire the young leaders of tomorrow when he's linked to this Hollywood trashy attention seeking mediocre actresses whose family seems to have issues with money and the law.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 05:36:14 pm
Trevor's career is not established like Oliver Stone, Spielberg, etc, or a T.V. show runner. He is working his way up and it is a very fickle business. He is not like a practicing lawyer or doctor with a steady income. So his using his ex-wife for some seed money or to get a film done is protocol in Hollywood.  And they love a scandal. Look at The Crown and Prince Phillip. Trevor is not in Hewitt's position when he sold his story.  This could help him with projects. Everyone in Tinseltown is looking for an angle . And you have to with the massive competition that keeps growing in this industry every year. So IMHPO he could very well sell his story  of his relations with MM either in interviews or a film project. Don't know if he will. I think he would do more damage now than if they are married, as that is not an easy institution to just leave. One is more motivated to make it work once married, until there is no point in the marriage relationship.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 19, 2017, 06:16:31 pm
Even if the first husband does not do a tell-all book about his marriage to Meggles, plenty of people-- friends and family and co-workers-- knew what was going on at the time.  So, if there is any gossip to be had, it will come out, perhaps in trickles, over time.  I really doubt that Harry will care; it will just tarnish Meggles' tiara which will infuriate her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 19, 2017, 06:33:09 pm
Hewitt sold his story and it did not do him any good. He squandered the money and is living with his mother today.

Better to earn an honest living than sell out to the media. IMO anyway.

These sort of people more or less become pariahs as Hewitt found out.
why it's wrong he made a movie or series based on his own private life? USA isnt North Korea no matter how much royalists must dislike that


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 19, 2017, 06:58:21 pm
Miss Hathaway is right. Harry won't care about this as I suspect he already knows. I'm sure there are some of his friends who are telling him stuff about her, so he knows. That's what I'd do if he were my friend. He's is not the brightest member of the BRF (if there are really any intelligent blood members). He doesn't care right now about her past or ambitions nor can see what could happen with a type like her. He's Harry. I remember his mom saying, "Don't underestimate Harry. William doesn't even want to be king." I forgot what question she was responding to at that time. Don't know if I underestimate him or not. I don't know if he knows what he is doing really.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 19, 2017, 07:39:13 pm
A third wheel no more! How finding love with Meghan has put an end to Prince Harry’s years of playing ‘gooseberry’ to Kate and Wills at formal events (and he won't miss the awkward photo ops)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/index.html
since the engagement, this is still the situation and I hope it'll continue throughout the festivitie season. The GW/Meghan hasn't been officially approved, so she shouldn't be part of the crew. The Christmas luncheon's tomorrow I believe. Harry has gotten another job from Prince Philip/ the queen to take over the royal marine patronage, so he's not being put out to pasture but would be if this woman was to marry him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 19, 2017, 08:47:44 pm
It makes sense that he would get that patronage. Most of what has been reshuffled over the last couple of months have been divided between Charles, William and Kate.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 19, 2017, 09:23:24 pm
A third wheel no more! How finding love with Meghan has put an end to Prince Harry’s years of playing ‘gooseberry’ to Kate and Wills at formal events (and he won't miss the awkward photo ops)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/index.html
since the engagement, this is still the situation and I hope it'll continue throughout the festivitie season. The GW/Meghan hasn't been officially approved, so she shouldn't be part of the crew. The Christmas luncheon's tomorrow I believe. Harry has gotten another job from Prince Philip/ the queen to take over the royal marine patronage, so he's not being put out to pasture but would be if this woman was to marry him.

I think no longer being Kate's babysitter will be a relief for him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 19, 2017, 10:44:46 pm
I saw this on Jersey Deanne tumblr and thought it was intriguing.

Apparently MM is still up for hire as a public speaker despite her address being listed as Kensington Palace.

I thought that was frowned upon after Sophie and the Fake Sheik sting.

Here's the link


https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/booking-request.php?SpName=Meghan-Markle



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 10:54:05 pm
I think this is fake news. It is a no no for a senior royal to take on outside work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 19, 2017, 11:15:31 pm
I thought it was too. But Sophie Wessex was allowed to work post marriage until that newspaper sting.

Has all non-royal work been banned since then please?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 19, 2017, 11:38:30 pm
Sophie was married to someone way down in line of succession. Peter Phillips has a "real job" but he lacks title and is also way down in line of succession. The Queen allowed them to keep working, Edward tried several lines of work, but ultimately this failed for them and they became working royals with no outside work. Meghan would be married to someone in CHarles dream of the scaled down monarchy. Meghan will of course do speaking engagements but as a member of the royal family not as an outside job for herself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 20, 2017, 12:08:01 am
Personally, I think it would be better to let her earn her living than have the tax payers have to dish it out. Of course, that will lead to acting roles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 01:08:52 am
If that happened, then Charles would have to grit his teeth and bring in the York girls. Or his dreams of the scaled down monarchy would be shattered.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 01:22:30 am
I think Sparkles is going to get whatever she wants.  For now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 20, 2017, 01:54:01 am
They won't say anything until the press gets ahold of it and makes it public.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 20, 2017, 02:28:57 am
First sketches of Meghan Markle's potential wedding dress! Israeli brand Inbal Dror releases designs submitted for figure-hugging gown after official request from the palace


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5193247/First-sketches-Meghans-potential-wedding-dress.html#ixzz51lSC7yrb
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 20, 2017, 03:00:00 am
Sophie was married to someone way down in line of succession.

At the time Sophie was married to the 7th in the line of succession. (Charles, William, Harry, Andrew, Beatrice and Eugenie only ahead of Edward)

By the time Meghan marries Harry he will be 6th in the line of succession. (Charles, William, George, Charlotte, baby #3 will be the ones ahead of Harry)

That makes their positions relatively comparable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 03:04:48 am
As I said before George and Charlotte are tots and there is a baby next year. They cannot do royal duties. Uncle Harry will do them and he is ahead of them in that he is a grown up and can work now. The children need to go to school, University and George will go to Sandhurst.  Edward is still way down in line of succession and won't be the one to  take up the slack for the little Cambridges until they grow up. That's where Harry comes in. Charles had Harry on the balcony not Edward at the Queen's Jubilee where the scaled down family stood. No, the positions are not comparable. Harry may be down in line of succession, and unless child labor laws do not exist, those children can't do royal work. Edward is still way down in line of succession and he and Sophie married ages ago.  Babies and tots may be ahead of adults but not in the work department.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 20, 2017, 03:19:20 am
Nothing is actually banned for Royal fiancees in the BRF as far as I know, that is, office work, PR work like Sophie did, private engagements like talks about charities. These women and men (Mark Phillips worked throughout his engagement) are still private individuals with a need for an income. That is until they marry.

There would be many problems involved in any work undertaken after marriage to a Royal in my opinion and that includes the rapacious British press, especially the tabloids. If there was a need for extra RPOs for instance because of media harassment or a Royal wife obtained a job ahead of others the tabs would jump on it, screaming about cost or favouritism and there would be hell to pay.

The British media is like no other. And when a high profile job is involved the problems multiply. As Sophie found, and she worked through her engagement I believe, things become impossible quite quickly.

Plus, most of those in front of Harry in the line of succession are very young. They'll hardly be doing public engagements in their nursery school holidays! It will be 20/25 years (with George undertaking a service career after uni) before Harry (and wife) could look at taking a minor role. And an adult Charlotte and the new baby might not want a public life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 20, 2017, 07:13:51 am
Don't understand why sketches of the potential dress are being released now. Haven't the brides usually been trying to keep the bridal dresses secret until the wedding day. I don't know what she did at the UN as a volunteer or how much time she really spent there but I'm guessing it did not qualify her to be a professional public speaker. But clearly she needs an audience.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 20, 2017, 07:25:41 am
^ Anyone in public life that is used to speaking in public (like actors/actresses) can be public speakers, though. You don't really need qualifications. After all Fergie and Princess Beatrice have public speaking engagements on occasion. Sophie Wessex in her PR days did it. Charity workers and reps do it to appeal for funds.

^I don't believe that KP asked for drawings (no letters/emails from them have appeared.) I think it was that designer throwing her hat into the ring on an offchance and I'd be extremely surprised if she's chosen. I think M will go for a British or Canadian designer.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 01:59:08 pm
Nothing is actually banned for Royal fiancees in the BRF as far as I know, that is, office work, PR work like Sophie did, private engagements like talks about charities. These women and men (Mark Phillips worked throughout his engagement) are still private individuals with a need for an income. That is until they marry.

There would be many problems involved in any work undertaken after marriage to a Royal in my opinion and that includes the rapacious British press, especially the tabloids. If there was a need for extra RPOs for instance because of media harassment or a Royal wife obtained a job ahead of others the tabs would jump on it, screaming about cost or favouritism and there would be hell to pay.

The British media is like no other. And when a high profile job is involved the problems multiply. As Sophie found, and she worked through her engagement I believe, things become impossible quite quickly.

Plus, most of those in front of Harry in the line of succession are very young. They'll hardly be doing public engagements in their nursery school holidays! It will be 20/25 years (with George undertaking a service career after uni) before Harry (and wife) could look at taking a minor role. And an adult Charlotte and the new baby might not want a public life.

I'd like to think that all the Cambridge children would take on charity work and public roles. Charlotte is the first Princess born to a direct  heir since the early 1950s. I think she will have a high profile and eventually become Princess Royal.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 20, 2017, 02:54:08 pm
earrings meghan wore to christmas luncheon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRfdLADWkAAThyH.jpg
https://www.maisonbirks.com/en/birks-snowflake-large-round-jacket-earrings

dress
https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/clothing/dresses/self-portrait-nightshade-midi-dress-1?cvosrc=affiliate.shareasale.687298


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: DuchessChandelier on December 20, 2017, 03:09:14 pm
I think I saw a Hello cover recently that had the headline "Meghan sparkles" on the cover. I almost laughed out loud.

Harry looks annoyed. Getting tired of Megs already...? How long have these two really spent time together? I have a feeling now that they are really living together, it's not all bliss like he thought.

https://www.svenskdam.se/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/harry-meghan-ibl.jpg (https://www.svenskdam.se/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/harry-meghan-ibl.jpg)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5198241/Royals-gather-Buckingham-Palace-Christmas-lunch.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5198241/Royals-gather-Buckingham-Palace-Christmas-lunch.html)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 20, 2017, 03:34:08 pm
I'm at the point of not caring if he's annoyed or not. What does he expect from a bed jumper, social climber, fake person like her. He looks like he'll drive right past the palace and dump her off to the airport.  :tehe:  Anyway, over the past few times we've seen them together, Harry always looks uncomfortable and has to lie to sell this very odd dysfunctional relationship. So much for her getting her visa then.
Every time I think there's a cohesive plan going on to get rid of her, she keeps popping up like a bad case of an std. So much in the press about her murky past with SoHo House and nude pictures and sex videos, and there she is at the Christmas luncheon with her fiancé, a once beloved down-to-earth people's prince. All I know is that Harry wasn't defiant to the queen last year and wouldn't dream of being with someone like Meghan so I still expect a plan to be in play and this is part of it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 20, 2017, 03:36:25 pm
^^^ Good find! Those earrings are expensive (and too trendy - the way they close behind the earlobe - to be lasting and a wise investment), soon the "thrifty Waity" articles will pop up again, I bet.

^^ There was apparently a pigeon he didn't want to run over, hence him looking like that. :dontknow:
But living together and spending more than a weekend or a fortnight on holiday together should really be an eye-opener... :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 03:52:36 pm
Hahaha!  I see somebody already changed the original dress link in the article to a more modest full skirt.  It was this in the DM originally but...  And I do, as stated elsewhere, see bare leg in the car.  If so, kinda trashy and inappropriate.:

http://www.self-portrait-studio.com/collection/tops/peony-short-sleeve-top (http://www.self-portrait-studio.com/collection/tops/peony-short-sleeve-top)

Don't care about the earrings at all.  This falls under Harry wasting more money if they're real.  Far too trendy.

The worst is the nose job on her.  That's in Michael Jackson territory.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/20/15/477B18CC00000578-5198241-image-a-62_1513782624735.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/20/15/477B18CC00000578-5198241-image-a-62_1513782624735.jpg)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 20, 2017, 04:16:14 pm
I actually do not care for her dressed up taste at all. Her casual look is much better in my opinion. But she can't be a replica of Kate so she has to make her own look. I think Kate actually has pretty good taste in clothes. Meghan is just so so. Nobody in Los Angeles seems to think that much of her one way or the other. Just another actress climbing her way up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 04:29:07 pm
I think her nose is too irregularly shaped for it to be a nose job.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 04:40:38 pm
^It's a nose job.  No doubt about it.  And starting to cave in a bit.  No worries.  Harry'll fix it!

^^She was a nobody in Hollyweird.  In acting years, she was ancient because she wasn't getting serious acting roles ever.  This is just another career move.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: DuchessChandelier on December 20, 2017, 04:46:16 pm
It does look like a nose job to me as well. Her nose used to be a lot wider at the tip. Sometimes I wonder if it's possible she is some sort of a weird freak who glued pics of Harry on the walls and watched Diana's wedding on repeat, even having a nose job to get Diana-esque nose or if Harry was looking for a woman who would look like himself (you know, close-set eyes and that nose). Both options seem very creepy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 05:20:30 pm
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_t0KH4cRME/Wh0Cd6a7EQI/AAAAAAAAF8M/fpOe5IEHLZQme--6LZgfE1yw2ogfXse_gCLcBGAs/s1600/meghan%2Bmarkle%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery1.jpg (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_t0KH4cRME/Wh0Cd6a7EQI/AAAAAAAAF8M/fpOe5IEHLZQme--6LZgfE1yw2ogfXse_gCLcBGAs/s1600/meghan%2Bmarkle%2Bplastic%2Bsurgery1.jpg)

Before/after.  Please.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 05:45:32 pm
If Harry did not want to be with her he would not have proposed. It's a free country.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 20, 2017, 05:48:33 pm
Nose jobs are common in LA. Of course she had one. She had to make herself attractive to compete here.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 05:54:53 pm
^Exactly.  It also helped her neutralize her ethnicity.  Every actor in her category is the same.  She’s also had skin lightening, hair straightening, veneers and breast implants.  But, in her world, nothing unusual at all.  I was merely defending my post that it was a nose job going a little south on her but others didn’t think she’d had one at all.  That, to me, makes no sense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 20, 2017, 06:05:12 pm
She definitely got a nose job. She's white washed pretty much all of her ethnic features.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 20, 2017, 06:14:01 pm
Usually nose jobs make the nose look abnormally small. Or distorted like some of those celebrities who got had work done. If she got a nose job I doubt she would have gone for the "snub nose" look.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 20, 2017, 06:50:44 pm
Meghan's copy-Kate makeover! Bride-to-be ditches the natural look for heavy bronzer, groomed brows and sleek hair - as she attends the Queen's Christmas lunch wearing a brand loved by the Duchess

She's steadily working her way towards being a full-fledged member of the royal fold ahead of her wedding to Prince Harry in May, ticking off another box today by attending the Queen's annual Christmas lunch for the first time.

So it's no wonder Meghan Markle has been making some tweaks to her casual California girl look to show that she's left her Hollywood actress life behind for the royal of sophisticated royal wife.

The former Suits star, 36, was rocking a noticeably more groomed appearance as she arrived today with heavier bronzer and make-up, ultra perfect brows and smoother, glossier locks.

Her look was very polished and glamorous, compared with her engagement portraits taken just over three weeks ago in which she looked much more bared back and natural.

Wearing a guipure lace and crepe dress by Self Portrait, Meghan looked as if she'd been taking style and grooming notes straight out of the Duchess of Cambridge's handbook.

The Duchess herself wore Self Portrait to the London premiere of A Streetcat Named Bob in November last year and is famed for her bouncy brunette locks. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5198711/Meghan-Markle-Kate-style-makeover.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 20, 2017, 07:14:20 pm
Exactly HRH Tiana, then she uses the race card when it's convenient.
It looks like they did a drive by and didn't stay that long.
Her makeup was way overly done. She must've looked a sight in person.
The press should be questioning why she's still merchandising what she has on because it was known her exact dress and earrings and how they can be purchased.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 20, 2017, 07:42:43 pm
Nose jobs are common in LA. Of course she had one. She had to make herself attractive to compete here.

Too bad plastic surgery won't fix those bird legs of hers . . . . :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 20, 2017, 08:03:52 pm
^^Richard Palmer questioned it without being blatantly obvious in a tweet.

https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/943478907214409728


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 20, 2017, 09:02:13 pm
The Ring Flasher pose is already perfected
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/20/15/477B18CC00000578-5198241-image-a-62_1513782624735.jpg


Usually nose jobs make the nose look abnormally small. Or distorted like some of those celebrities who got had work done. If she got a nose job I doubt she would have gone for the "snub nose" look.

Not really! The horribly small and very obvious nose jobs stem from a time when it was very en vogue to have slim, small "button" noses (ca 1990s - 2000s), that just ended up looking freaky and unnatural. The trend changed around 5 years ago, and before that too, but esp since then most go for "natural" looking noses, just ever so slightly refining their own noses, and you can hardly tell unless directly comparing. Patrick Dempsey had a very good nose job at the beginning of his career (it was super huge, and his "new" nose remained big and manly, just a touch smaller), Jen Aniston had a very good nose job even in the 1990s, so hers looks natural too. And then you have the obvious abominations like Janet Jackson, Kris Jenner and so many more (I remembered these 4 the fastest, sorry!) who not only went for the trend, but also couldn't stop... bignono

PS Strange how the dm had a link to M's outfit as soon as she was photographed, I wonder whether it was sponsored  :wellduh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 20, 2017, 09:27:53 pm
the person who runs meghan mirror now got a gig with E!

 
@MeghansMirror
What did we think of #MeghanMarkle's Christmas Luncheon look? We're excited to announce that we're officially contributing to @enews and shared our thoughts on today's style


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 20, 2017, 10:18:25 pm
Sandy, she got a nose job. Yesterday, I had dinner with my English cousin who is a set designer and has worked for years on many T.V. shows, and she was commenting on her obvious nose job. My friend from New York, who has had many  Jewish friends who have gotten nose jobs, took one look at her photo a few months back and commented on her nose job. I didn't even realize it then until I looked at a younger photograph. She got work done. Accept it. She is not naturally that pretty. And the one  Christmas luncheon photo I saw with her in the car going to the party makes her look very ethnic IMO and not that attractive either with that make-up job.  As my cousin said, her main problem is she is a typical actress and they are a special breed of people not necessarily that great to know personally. That is based on my cousin working with many of them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 20, 2017, 10:33:54 pm
^It is the very very rare, secure, decent celebrity who doesn’t put themselves first or sells themselves constantly.  They are not genuine people.  The industry is built that way and those who are not shark-like don’t make it anywhere.  They’re also inclined to believe their own media if it’s glowing and congratulatory.

It is an endless need for attention, recognition and praise.  It is impossible to measure the size of their egos.  Not the nicest of people.  In this case, that's some good survival skills at work for her but that essential ingredient of natural empathy and caring with no personal reward or praise is simply not there.  Lying is also their largest talent and business so they are in constantbdrnial that they could be disbelieved.  Phonies.

They're also highly insecure and that causes big problems when they are faced with having to accept criticism unless it includes a massive opportunit or  reward such as advancement, i.e., bigger role, better contract or perks that lead to industry awards.  Constant jockeying for a higher position.

This role will disappoint her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 20, 2017, 11:16:23 pm
Strange,  :sly:  they stayed less than two hours.

Just like Kate, Meghan wanting to make sure her 'precious' will be photographed.  :laugh:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/20/16/477B18CC00000578-5198241-Bride_to_be_Meghan_flashed_her_dazzling_engagement_ring_from_the-a-10_1513785601094.jpg

Harry looks annoyed. Getting tired of Megs already...? How long have these two really spent time together? I have a feeling now that they are really living together, it's not all bliss like he thought.
agree.

reason .... :sigh: maybe because some people are not 'buying' the love story of the prince-new-Diana and feminist-ambicious. :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 20, 2017, 11:55:59 pm
^^^^Are we sure that the meghansmirror person is not p
part of Meghan's PR team and this is not another revenue stream for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 12:17:18 am
Sandy, she got a nose job. Yesterday, I had dinner with my English cousin who is a set designer and has worked for years on many T.V. shows, and she was commenting on her obvious nose job. My friend from New York, who has had many  Jewish friends who have gotten nose jobs, took one look at her photo a few months back and commented on her nose job. I didn't even realize it then until I looked at a younger photograph. She got work done. Accept it. She is not naturally that pretty. And the one  Christmas luncheon photo I saw with her in the car going to the party makes her look very ethnic IMO and not that attractive either with that make-up job.  As my cousin said, her main problem is she is a typical actress and they are a special breed of people not necessarily that great to know personally. That is based on my cousin working with many of them.

But if she did it certainly is not an outstanding nose. It is a snub nose. Why would she want that? IF it is a nose job, I hope she stops there and does not try to "improve" it.

Nose jobs tend to be more extreme. Like Jennifer Grey's. She looked better pre nose job. Some actors had very obvious nose jobs. Dean Martin did and hid out the "before" photos. He did look better and did not do any more 'adjusting'.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 12:37:27 am
She did. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to. She had a more African nose and you need to do a different type of nose job for that to not end up like Michael Jackson. On LyndsayEdwards.com, who is some sort of psychic, she predicts that MM and H will break up before the wedding because of upheavals with the BRF and he will then find his true life partner. I don't know how to put on the link here as I am computer illiterate completely. But maybe someone else can go on and put it on here because it says interesting things that this thread posters may like to read. Thanks.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 12:47:10 am
I think they will marry despite what the psychic said.  I don't think either of them would have committed to an engagement if they had serious doubts or wanted to wait.

Maybe she's his true life partner. It would be sad if he led the life Albert did then in his fifties married someone much younger, and having several love children before he settled down and married.

Michael Jackson was obsessed with plastic surgery and ended up with almost no nose. He totally changed his looks. Let's hope none of the royals appear with almost no nose.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 12:56:06 am
Meghan Attends Royal Pre-Christmas Luncheon After Explosive Fight With Harry
Quote
Is Princess life beginning to be too much for the Hollywood actress?
https://radaronline.com/photos/meghan-markle-royal-christmas-luncheon/

Trouble Is Paradise? Prince Harry And Meghan Markle Have Huge Fight Over Prenup!
http://celebrityinsider.org/trouble-is-paradise-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-have-huge-fight-over-prenup-97838/

Most likely bs, but this should be the course of reports from now on because if it's true that they only stayed for 40 minutes and left when more senior royals were arriving and looking at the pictures of Harry looking ticked off and as she looked like she was trying to smile throught the whole thing, doesn't bode well for any harmony going on behind the scenes for these 2.
Other rag magazines have her beng homesick and not dealing well with being told what to do as she loves her independence.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 01:01:11 am
I did not think royals got prenups. Diana did not get one, Fergie did not get one and so on. I never heard about Kate getting one either.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 21, 2017, 01:07:39 am
gossip cop will soon debunk that trouble in paradise story soon


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 21, 2017, 01:47:11 am
positive- like hair and earring
negative- makeup and dress (for this occasion)

https://i2.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Meghan-Markle-Royal-Christmas-Luncheon-10.jpg?fit=1380%2C880
https://i2.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Meghan-Markle-Royal-Christmas-Luncheon-04.jpg?fit=1380%2C880
photos speak so much of them:  :sigh:
she- focused and loves being the center of attention(the drama)
he -  tense /irritated and angry


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 02:42:15 am
I can't get over how ethnic she looks in some of these pictures. I mean maybe she's going for that now. It must take a lot to tame her hair everyday. I have to be honest I would *despise* having hair like that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 21, 2017, 02:43:54 am
positive- like hair and earring
negative- makeup and dress (for this occasion)

https://i2.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Meghan-Markle-Royal-Christmas-Luncheon-10.jpg?fit=1380%2C880
https://i2.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Meghan-Markle-Royal-Christmas-Luncheon-04.jpg?fit=1380%2C880
photos speak so much of them:  :sigh:
she- focused and loves being the center of attention(the drama)
he -  tense /irritated and angry

He's beet red.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 02:57:07 am
You are right he is beet red I wonder what was going on with him. I have a good cream for that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 21, 2017, 03:03:11 am
@lesken - it doesn't take a lot to "tame her hair everyday." Time consuming, yes, but once straightened thermally with a flat iron or pressing comb it will remain straight until moisture in the air hits the hair or its washed and then it's back to curly:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssl267Moy8I

I would think it's the same with European women who have curly hair who then straighten with a flat iron:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sb8b-c3dyys


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 03:33:12 am
^true, but I think she uses hair extensions like a lot of women on tv.

Harry's angry red face didn't make any of the covers of the UK papers. It's all about Meghan's new darker, botoxed face and her cheap ooking ring. :tehe:
https://anonymoushouseplantfan.tumblr.com/post/168772074646/post-xmas-lunch-uk-covers



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 04:02:03 am
Well it sounds dreadful to somebody like me. I just wash my hair and let it dry out in the sun and it's so easy. I have no ability to do hair myself so I'm glad I have easy hair. I have a girlfriend that really fusses with her hair and she genuinely enjoys it so maybe Megan does too. Now she has hairdressers to help her so all is well in that department. I wonder what you would look like without plastic surgery and all the hair taming things.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 21, 2017, 04:25:31 am
I asked on the DM if Meghan was left-handed because she uses that hand to put her hair behind her ear and today to scratch her nose while in the car. Someone replied that she is left-handed, but she isn't. I watched a video on YouTube of her signing autograp ghs with her right hand:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rhg6zEzRGf4

So like Kate she is showing off her precious, right @danifaul ?  lol

I'm right-handed and I rarely use my left hand to move my hair or scratch my nose unless I'm holding something in my right hand  :dontknow:

Even though I don't know Meghan personally, I feel that she is becoming arrogant rather than humble with her soon-to-be station in life and it irks me. We already saw the ring, no need to keep showing it off. I believe I've posted before, "you already got the job Meghan!"


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 04:58:47 am
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle relationship TENSION as Queen leaves future royal ‘hurt’
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/894969/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Queen-royal-family-wedding-Christmas-Day-Windsor-Castle
She's being painted now as a gold digger. It fits since she came on the scene and was seen as an ambitious social climber. I expect her past boyfriends and people she's ticked off to start crawling out of the woodwork and talk or leave comments in the press. Harry being painted as the docile guy who'd do anything for his greasy girlfriend and getting family flack and tension was seen today.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 05:17:18 am
Yeah, I can just imagine the Queen stomping around demanding that Meghan sign a pre-nup, something that, as far as is known, has never occurred in the BRF, and inferring that Meghan is after Harry's money! And of course the Express would know that there's tension !! The one person who did get a huge alimony payment (which IMO she deserved) after the breakup of her Royal marriage was the aristocratic Diana, who couldn't be accused of social climbing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 21, 2017, 06:04:00 am
I can't get over how ethnic she looks in some of these pictures. I mean maybe she's going for that now. It must take a lot to tame her hair everyday. I have to be honest I would *despise* having hair like that.

She is purposely using bronzer and a darker foundation. Her face, neck and hands are two different colors. That damp, cold air in London is not kind to ethnic hair. If I lived there, my hair would probably be in a bun every day because damp air makes it go poof. I’m sure relaxers, flat irons, Biosilk are a part of her hair regimen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 06:18:14 am
Get a lot of money prenup or not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 06:30:40 am
More about the dress, from Harper's Bazaar. And no sign of tension in the photos in that article.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com.au/fashion/meghan-markle-sheer-dress-christmas-lunch-15342


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 07:15:34 am
^ These are the arrival photos where Harry's relaxed and she's full on acting mode. In the departure photos she's with a pretend doll look and he's angry red.

If the Queen wants a prenup, good for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 07:25:03 am
Unless one is the proverbial fly on the wall no way to tell what his mood is her what hers is. IMO. Harry is a ginger and they tend to have ruddy complexion. Or maybe someone in his family got on his nerves. If he felt so negative he would not have proposed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 09:45:36 am
Perhaps it was Princess Michael and her Moor brooch that irritated Harry. (Even though it was probably his rosacea flaring up that caused the redness, though I didn't notice anything untoward apart fro that pigeon flying up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 11:48:42 am
^^^Where are these departure photos of Harry?  Somehow, I'm not seeing them posted.  Anybody have the source?   :thankyou:

As for rosacea flare ups, if that's what is seen in the photos, the leading cause is emotional stress unless Harry's pregnant or going through menopause or consumption of too much alcohol which I doubt happened at this event because even for Harry, there wasn't enough time. 

I know this because I have had it on and off all my life and have a great dermatologist.  There is no doubt in my mind that Harry has put himself in a position to defend his life decision here.  The royals can ooh and aah publicly all they want but they'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to have expressed any concerns.

This had to be, and I'll be generous here, a challenging event for any newcomer to attend.  I don't care how "worldly" you are.  It's going to be intimidating and does not contain the well oiled social ease of familiarity for Sparkles.  That some of these people have sharp tongues, I also have no doubt.  This isn't going to be a slam dunk for her so Harr and his defensive temper will be on display for the "love of his life".


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 12:04:07 pm
The first article from the DM about what happened inside the Xmas party. If you widen the story on the right you can read it quite easily.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RE_DailyMail/status/943741648747618305?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 12:26:06 pm
^Thank you. 

But, I can't  tell anything by that photo as to whether they're coming or going.  Looks more like arriving to me unless she's got a personal makeup artist in her logo embossed handbag.  That's a fresh job on her face.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 12:44:04 pm
This is a racial complaint for the brooch: https://78.media.tumblr.com/ff61a26c7f5f7776e0c577c4d77e1492/tumblr_p1af82AkuP1wpp3nyo1_1280.png
Maybe I'm racial discrimination ignorant but the British Empire was the land where the sun never sets, it was the lad where India (not the 3 countries that it's divided to now), the Arabic peninsula, large parts of Africa were part of the empire. How is something that's part of your cultural heritage like this brooch a racial offence? Again, I might be ignorant about such things. But, correct me if I'm wrong - UK did not import slaves from their commonwealth countries. They did other things to be ashamed of but enslaving their common wealth is not one of these mistakes.


These are leaving pictures. I sourced them from tumblr sites as the DM article is retracted, the leaving pics from getty and legion are removed.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/8e06a378e2b52ecd1f667c9d695d132a/tumblr_inline_p1ab4atAb11vn9zle_540.jpg
https://78.media.tumblr.com/692b812277a0e9043ae85ca5d3f2d90e/tumblr_p19xjg9u9S1wpp3nyo1_1280.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/20/16/4779DAB100000578-5198241-Meghan_Markle_is_joining_Prince_Harry_and_members_of_the_royal_f-a-13_1513785601101.jpg

The arrival pics and the leaving pics are easy to recognize. On the arrival pics he is attentive, watching the road, making sure the cameras flashing are not causing him to lose control of the car, there's also a pigeon that flies in front of his part of the car. The leaving pics Meghan looks like a doll that wants to look pretty and he looks irritated. I'm not a fly on the luncheon wall but I can see microexpressions.





Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 12:45:43 pm
Official engagement photos, from Royal Central.

http://royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/breaking-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-release-their-engagement-photos-93699


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 21, 2017, 12:50:30 pm
Kensington Palace release touchingly intimate engagement portrait of Harry and Meghan in a daring sheer top taken by photographer who has shot some of Hollywood's  finest

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5201959/amp/New-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-photograph.html?__twitter_impression=true


Kensington Palace
@KensingtonRoyal
The photographs were taken by @alexilubo earlier this week at Frogmore House, Windsor.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 12:54:24 pm
^^^Thank you!  Yep, he does look irritated.  The skin sure does anyway.  And as for the ridiculous "racist brooch", well, what an ignorant assumption.  Not worth any further attention.

^^I like the black and white photo but the other one looks odd, to me.  She looks much older than he in both of them.  Ring placement a little too obvious.  Gotta get used to that, I suppose.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 21, 2017, 01:10:03 pm
He doesn't appear super warm or happy. Maybe something is getting to him? Some bee's in his bonnet - maybe he's not the easy-going and fun-loving guy we all assumed he was. Something so cold about him in the pictures - her? She is loving the attention and flashing the ring. The real prize for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 01:10:45 pm
 I think the brooch Princess Michael is wearing represents Balthazar, one of the Magi and therefore appropriate for Xmas. However, in the past PRss M has been a bit racially insensitive, to say the least, so that's why people probably jumped to conclusions. Actually, the slavery which took place in the British Empire isn't part of her heritage. PM has Austrian, Hungarian and Czechoslovak ancestry. Her father was an aristo German officer during the Nazi regime.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 21, 2017, 01:14:53 pm
If I was at the luncheon and saw that I would feel some type of way seeing that on princess Michael why of all days she wore that?

Enagament pics I like the black and white one. The next one it would have been better if Harry suit was a dark grey
.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 01:24:29 pm
Well, ok, maybe just maybe PM was making a statement.  But, guess what?  That part of the world is littered with relatives of ex Nazis and a heavy patrician influence.  The ever-studious and brilliant Sparkles should know that and had better either get used to it or else be perennially upset.  She asked for it.  This is an institution saturated with traditions, values, beliefs and behavior completely alien to her and you cannot control other people all the blasted time.  Bless them and move on. 

She'd better have a thick hide.  Doubt it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: DuchessChandelier on December 21, 2017, 01:27:52 pm
She just cannot stop wearing see-through clothing. Klassy.  bignono As for the "touchingly intimate" engagement photo, I think I'm going to vomit.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 21, 2017, 02:10:40 pm
Perhaps it was Princess Michael and her Moor brooch that irritated Harry. (Even though it was probably his rosacea flaring up that caused the redness, though I didn't notice anything untoward apart fro that pigeon flying up.

Supposedly, that brooch is a representation of St. Balthazar, one of the three Magi, hence the wearing of it to a Christmas luncheon.

On the other hand, a brooch of a white woman is worn by multiple people . . . I'm wondering if white women need to get all up in arms over this?

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d7/60/f6/d760f67d186a44ab0bcdb9527879ec47.jpg

Princess Michael has her faults -- plenty of them -- but I don't see this as one of them, given the origin of the brooch -- a historical figure.  She's actually honoring a man of color.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 21, 2017, 02:11:23 pm
I wish photographers would stop Photoshopping everything to death. However, I do think this Polish Prince is a talented photographer.

Another photo from KP.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRk0_cWX4AAx3lG.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 21, 2017, 02:18:55 pm
:thumbsup:  - choose from Ralph & Russo / Victoria Beckham, make up, photo black / white and Harrry smile
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/21/13/477FA6A400000578-5201959-In_their_second_shot_we_see_Harry_and_Meghan_in_an_intimate_embr-a-169_1513864313839.jpg


:thumbsdown: - the dress , others photos and ring


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRk0_cWX4AAx3lG.jpg  :tehe:  :laugh: they approved this photo !?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/21/12/477F9C5000000578-5201959-One_of_the_two_photographs_of_Prince_Harry_and_Meghan_Markle_tak-a-127_1513860095495.jpg

they seem to be posing for VF, and not for a historical photo of engagement.

They are (or want to be) the celebrity couple of monarchy.  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 02:27:37 pm
^Ayup.  Comment on morning news here, after laughter about how HM must be having to "adjust" to an American invasion, "Does anyone really care, though?  Didn't we get rid of this a few centuries ago?"  Followed by, "Well, they aren't really royals anymore and are celebrities now so we can care a little."  NBC



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 21, 2017, 02:33:48 pm
I'm sorry but british colonies did have slaves, like any other european countries since the late XVth/XVIth century had. The british, however created apartheid, something unheard of in other countries with slaves. I agree with Rosella, it seems to me that she's wearing a Balthazar brooch but she did chose to wear it now instead of in other years, maybe she didn't mean to offend Meghan in any way, just a remainder of the part of history that doesn't only associate africans with slavery, reducing them to something less human?  :dontknow: You know, before the slave trade started in earnest in the XV/XVIth century, in Africa there were kings and leaders of tribes who were black. Throughout the History we've been taught has been manipulated because it's told by the winning side's perspective, for instance, think about the representations of Jesus Christ as white, blond, blue-eyed. In reality, Jesus was jewish, born in Palestine, it's much more likely he had olive skin, brown hair and eyes. You know? The representation of Christ like that served a bigger purpose in my opinion, that of maintaining the status quo.

If however, Princess Michael decided to wear it in an honesty and bluntness show, I'll give her credit for expressing just what probably is going around in many of that lot's minds.

 A bit of historical curious facts: Britain did enter in the possession of India, through the marriage of Catarina de Bragança with Charles II, it was part of her gift. Britain gained the key posessions that were crucial to expand and become the Empire with that marriage. I always find it interesting, in that Catarina didn't give Charles any sons, she did give him many important tools to expand his power and create a very powerful empire. Before the British empire claimed the same, Spain and Portugal were the empires where the sun never set  :sigh:

Sorry if I get off track, I do love history.

Back on track What sort of engagement pictures are these? I mean, on what world is these transparency nonsense allowed? It's a tacky show.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Amanda on December 21, 2017, 02:34:48 pm
How beautiful! Beautiful couple, in love! Look at the way harry looks at her! Cute! kisss kisss kisss :hug:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 21, 2017, 02:39:00 pm
To me, the pic of them standing outside, PH seems to be trying to extricate himself from her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 02:40:26 pm
Now that I really look at the engagement photos, they are distinctly glossy mag and highly narcissistic.  Don't care for them.  Suitable for framing in a Hollywood agent's office.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 21, 2017, 02:41:07 pm
Why are thr photos so ugly? Right now even Kate's were better.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 21, 2017, 02:43:40 pm
^ Totally agreeing with you. I think the fault doesn't lie with Harry. It's Meghan's inner ugliness showing through the photos. I always find that inner beauty has exquisite ways of showing and right now, her inner lack of beauty and elegance and class is telling and speaking volumes in the pics. It's a celebrity's picture, not a royal engagement one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 21, 2017, 02:46:16 pm
^ lol I was not going so far. Just that for offical photos they are ugly. The one with them walking is plain ridiculous. As you say it is more celebrity stuff than royal. And more about showing off Meghan. Kate were kind of celeb but nothing compated to these.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 02:48:29 pm
^^You can photoshop and airbrush to kingdom come but the camera never lies.

^Yup.  Celebrity photos.  Expect more of the same.  Directed by Sparkles, absolutely. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 03:05:22 pm
Actually I think the engagement photographs look good. Kate and William and Diana and Charles had more casual clothing and they went dressed up. I do see that she always is grabbing Harry or leaning into him. Makes me think that she does a lot of body touching to get him entwined with her. Course that could just be the way she is but I doubt it. I think she does it as a way of manipulating him. It must feel very nurturing to him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 21, 2017, 03:13:02 pm
Meghan and Kate  :tehe:  They will fail the Firm, Charles will be more bald  :-X

£ 56,000 dress for an engagement photo,   :o
and  the ''prince of the people''  agree witrh her  :wopedo:


It's a celebrity's picture, not a royal engagement one.

 :flower: exactly


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 03:20:18 pm
Actually I think the engagement photographs look good. Kate and William and Diana and Charles had more casual clothing and they went dressed up. I do see that she always is grabbing Harry or leaning into him. Makes me think that she does a lot of body touching to get him entwined with her. Course that could just be the way she is but I doubt it. I think she does it as a way of manipulating him. It must feel very nurturing to him.

Maybe he likes PDA and being tactile. Something that seems to make William uncomfortable, even to this day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 03:40:36 pm
The photos are Hollywood style No Doubt . Whereas the ones we've seen of the others are more casual. It's an actress so that's to be expected. I also think Kate and William were copying Charles and Diana and so this couple wants to do it a little different so not to be also a copycat. But most everything she's going to do is going to come from this Hollywood glamour thing when she's out in public in gala events for the RF. In her first public appearance she was very casually dressed so she does go both ways. But maybe she got criticized for being so plain-looking and now she's going to go all out. But that's the nature of the Beast and it was always going to be that way the minute Harry decided to marry an upcoming actress born and raised in Tinseltown. It's not going to be anything else.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 21, 2017, 03:55:21 pm
I think the Queen and Prince Philip's engagement photos are lovely. I also really liked Princess Anne and Mark Phillips' ones. Charles and Diana's is also not bad, the one where he has his hand on her shoulder is ok. Even Kate and William's sort of hugging is much better than Harry and Meghan's.

I have a big issue with her duplicitous nature not about her physicall appearance, her fashion sense, whatever. It's what she exudes in the photos that makes me cringe. I can't explain but it's the energy she transmits, it's her eyes, the sort of light than she transmits that creeps me out. I wholeheartedly agree with Yooper, you can never change a leopard's spots.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 21, 2017, 03:58:59 pm
The gala dress for the official photos is tacky. And I cannot believe that cost nearly 60.000 euros.

I am not sure who advised them on the photos because nothing makes sense.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 04:07:49 pm
^Very tacky and her hair is a mess.  I would imagine that the dress was merch'd.  But, I expect her to be very, very expensive.  The fact that she chose that dress and pushed for glamor photos vs understated elegance to enhance her image speaks loud to me of her priorities.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 04:09:44 pm
Her hair does need a trim but that is easily remedied. Did she actually buy the dress or borrow it (like some actresses do for award shows)?


I think the Queen and Prince Philip's engagement photos are lovely. I also really liked Princess Anne and Mark Phillips' ones. Charles and Diana's is also not bad, the one where he has his hand on her shoulder is ok. Even Kate and William's sort of hugging is much better than Harry and Meghan's.

I have a big issue with her duplicitous nature not about her physicall appearance, her fashion sense, whatever. It's what she exudes in the photos that makes me cringe. I can't explain but it's the energy she transmits, it's her eyes, the sort of light than she transmits that creeps me out. I wholeheartedly agree with Yooper, you can never change a leopard's spots.


I don't see the woman as duplicitous. I like their photo better than William and Kate's which was actually not a bad photo of them.  I think it is a nice engagement photo of Harry and MEghan and I see no sinister undertones.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 21, 2017, 04:12:18 pm
^ Whaaaaaaaaaat? 60000 euros? They're hypocrites!!!!! So much money spent on that piece of garbage. It is transparent for god's sake. You can see her breasts underneath that and I'm sure if you zoom we could see the nipples. Jesus. Doesn't she understand what appropiate means? Also, about what she wore to the Christmas luncheon, girl it's 9ºC in London, what the heck was she thinking? Is that her concept of elegance? Looking like ...as americans would say, a *sleeze*. Look what I found at the urban dictionary https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Meghan (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Meghan)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 04:17:24 pm
It does not say she bought the gown. Did she or didn't she? I just read that it was purchased and speculation was that it was not full price. Could Harry have purchased it?

It looks like an ice skating outfit but longer.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 04:27:35 pm
^Who knows but she still thought it was appropriate. She is high maintenance and proves it with this show.

^^True.  Street slang I've heard here but didn't want to mention it although who cares.  It's why my sons laughed anyway when I brought her up for discussion.   That doesn't mean to apply directly to her individually but it doesn't help!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 21, 2017, 04:40:28 pm
^Very tacky and her hair is a mess.  I would imagine that the dress was merch'd.  But, I expect her to be very, very expensive.  The fact that she chose that dress and pushed for glamor photos vs understated elegance to enhance her image speaks loud to me of her priorities.

Absolutely agree. She has set the tone of her expectations as a royal. Still a commoner living in a country that is going through austerity and she wears a 60 grand dress for her engagement photoshoot.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 04:44:35 pm
To be fair none of the royals get clothing from Walmart. If a person adds up the cost of all the outfits each wears it would be quite a large number. The royals are not known to be austere. If she did not dress well she'd be criticized for wearing "cheap" clothing. Plus there are expensive beauty treatments and spas for the women in the family (some of them). The only one who really tries to cut costs IMO is Princess Anne.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 04:45:37 pm
Well now that I've seen what everybody else wore to the Christmas luncheon she was totally out of place. It would have been okay if it was at a cocktail party but the rest were dressed very traditionally for a luncheon. It is going to take awhile for her to get it. Unfortunately because Harry is who he, is we are thrusted with his choice in the media with and without her bloopers. If he were more intelligent I think he would have taken more care with who he chose to court.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 21, 2017, 04:51:00 pm
^Well, he is a man and he only saw a beautiful face and a thin body, and sure she has gotten involved in charity but he didn't know that until after he got to know her.

He didn't think about how she would be once he proposed, red flags were up with that Vanity Fair article that its all about her, but he probably thought it cute and boosted his ego when she said "boyfriend." Awwww. :wopedo:



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 04:53:22 pm
^I love it that she's so tacky and uncaring. To hell with the people, this is all about her. The DM has it in the headline that this is a Hollywood shot and not anything to do with royalty. The headline also says Her and Her Prince. Ths is all about her and not about harry. This is her Holloywood moment.  :bored: :thumbsdown:
I can't believe that dress cost that much. It's very insane.  bignono    IMO, she ooks very cheap in that very expensive dress and Harry looks like he's her accessory. These aren't a royal couple but a celebrity couple like those z lister/reality whow people that are on the cvers of Hello magazine. It looks like a spread for Hello magazine than official engagement pictures, but hey, this is the mondernization of the monarchy.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 21, 2017, 04:54:24 pm
Sorry the ^ were for Alexandrine and Yooper, again agreeing with them.

9x^ I'm not talking about the undertones of the engagement photos, I'm talking about what I see everytime I look to Meghan's eyes in photos or in video.

Her university degree (which afterall is only a bachelor's degree, it's not a big deal. It's not like she won the Nobel Prize on Chemistry/Physics/Economy/Medicine/Literature), her former marriage also poses an issue because: 1. she dumped her husband really fast. what sort of commitment was that? Marriage is hard work, people tell me. 2. She tried to convert to Engelson's religion and now she's getting baptized and confirmed in less than a year, excuse me but why should I believe she's truthful? How the heck is she allowed to do that, when people (at least in my religion) spend a good 13 years being educated on its principles is beyond me.

She conveniently seems to change her belief's system to align it with her husband's to be. She doesn't seem to have firm, educated convictions apart from her sad speech at UN, as if she'd have any power to make a multimillion dollar company change the add of a dishwasher soap, conveniently leaving behind the fact that it she did wrote that letter on an assigment her teacher gave to her class. It was her teacher that was a very good one, alerting her students and devolping in them critical thinking and social equality concepts.

She went to see empoverished children in Botswana wearing expensive clothes, just right now she spends 60000 on that lame excuse of a dress and she claims to be concerned about women, children, justice, equality, etc.? What moral ground has she to give any speeches on charity when her sort of charity is dressing in expensive clothes and do photo ops instead of living up to what she preaches? We call this sunday mass' charity. It lasts only when you feel charitable after leaving the mass and 30min after it, it's left your mind. Many false christians suffer from it, most unfortunately. I agree royals don't dress for walmart but they also don't dress like russian oligarchs. There are many designers selling clothes for more modest prices (some up to 2000 euros but still much less than 60000). Where is her compassion? We're living a crisis all over Europe, what sort of empathy is she showing to people in her future country, who are starving, struggling to keep a roof over their heads and feed their families!

As described by a former friend (not a very good one but also speaking volumes about her own character as well, after all tell me who your friend's with and I'll show you who you are) she changed a great many things about her... Just her statement claiming she didn't know anything about Harry? Ludicrous! Every girl in the occidental world knows who Harry is, who is family is, what a real mess his parents' divorce was. Why did she take that picture in front of Buckingham Palace? If she had zero interest, or didn't know who these people were, why bother going there? I'm sure most of us remember Harry and William walking behind their mother's coffins.
Then another friend or aquittance of hers told the press the many books Meghan had on Diana. Who is she trying to deceive?

Leaving her husband and then living with her boyfriend and leaving him to be with Harry instead. It's one thing to live with other people and share a house and another, on a whole different level is to share a house with your boyfriend. No matter how they spin that, it's not good. It's certainly not the same thing sharing the house with the man you love as it is sharing it with friends. Sharing it with your significant other it means you want to build a future together. Cory has a twit in twitter (pardon me the redundacy) in May calling her his woman. Didn't she meet Harry around that time? Even if she met him in June, what the heck was she doing dumping her boyfriend and going for prince charming in 15 days? What sort of mess is that?

I'm sorry this is my opinion, I understand your disagreement sandy but to me she's the embodiment of duplicitous.

^^^^^^I don't know how old are your sons, Yooper, but I hope there are still decent young men who spot types like Meghan miles away. It gives me hope.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 21, 2017, 04:58:14 pm
 Valentine Low‏ @valentinelow
5h5 hours ago

Meghan is wearing a dress by Ralph and Russo, and a sweater by Victoria Beckham. I CANNOT BELIEVE that I am the first to say this. I will never live it down.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 05:02:24 pm
Meghan's £56,000 engagement gown: Couture gown by British label Ralph & Russo features a cascading tulle skirt complete with an entirely sheer bodice
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The 36-year-old looked red carpet ready in a glittering couture gown by British label Ralph & Russo. The handmade creation would have taken thousands of hours to make and is estimated to cost £56,000. Kensington Palace confirmed the gown was 'privately purchased'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5202215/Meghan-Markle-Ralph-Russo-engagement-photos.html#http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/21/13/477F9C5000000578-5202215-image-a-1_1513862154997.jpg
rivately purchased? I bet the bill goes straigt to KP. In fact I hope she's spending up a storm because it'll be proof that she's indeed a gold digger and has no concept or interest in the austerity that the country's going through and how the royal family has to be seen economizing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 05:32:31 pm
I agree with Joanna's post. Meghan knows how to manipulate men well. I have no doubt she studied him before the introduction and while they dated to know exactly how to get him, not to mention, she knows how to sexually please him.  And to her credit, she did it in  spite of her obvious obstacles. But, she is a piece of work and most disingenuous. When he gets to know the real woman, I wonder if he will still be so besotted. Nothing to do about it but sit and watch this unfold. Maybe this is Harry's karma for killing so many animals.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 21, 2017, 05:34:57 pm
I wonder what Harry thought when he saw her in that gown for their engagement photos? Can a guy ever tell his woman that her outfit is inappropriate?

Meghan hasn't done her research, she should've worn a nice dress like Kate did, not some sheer top gown.  :ick:

She is not understanding the historical significance of her life right now, she is treating it like a celebrity photoshoot and it irritates me.  :bat:

Does she want her children and grandchildren to look at her photos and say she looked sexy?  :-X

We can all look at the previous engagement photos of the other royal marriages and smile, but this one...  bignono


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 21, 2017, 05:48:57 pm
To be fair none of the royals get clothing from Walmart. If a person adds up the cost of all the outfits each wears it would be quite a large number. The royals are not known to be austere. If she did not dress well she'd be criticized for wearing "cheap" clothing. Plus there are expensive beauty treatments and spas for the women in the family (some of them). The only one who really tries to cut costs IMO is Princess Anne.

There is a difference between a £6000 gown and a £60,000 gown. Cannot BELIEVE that she bought it.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 05:56:56 pm
The DM hinted that it may not have been purchased at "that price." But add up all the royals gowns costs, let's say Kate's, she does not buy cheap goods. Maybe Harry bought it for her.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 06:04:22 pm
^^^^^^^Joanna- My sons would have to go through me first and they know it if they stepped into a mess like this.  Their response to Sparkles was, “That’s the best he can do with all his toys?  There’s hope for us yet!”  Their assessment: Another goldigging piece of Hollywood trash and are confused as to Harry’s judgment.  I’m just quoting here, folks.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 06:08:26 pm
I doubt Harry is the type that would get she is inappropriate in terms of her clothes. What does he know really about fashion. He arrives and the women are dressed. One of Meghan's problems is she is from a lower class family even though her father made good money. He was on a crew level and that is made up of "blue collar" types. And his children from his first marriage are a mess and white trash like. Her mother I think is just simple. She went to a private school, but was not raised at any of the good social clubs in Los Angeles where you learn how to dress for proper society events. And actors and actresses are usually not allowed for memberships in those clubs with a few exceptions. So she learned dress-up from Hollywood events which is a whole other ball game. She is 36 and not likely to change easily as would a younger woman in her 20s. She is a head strong Leo to boot.  And in Hollywood, bad press is good press. Any press is good press. That doesn't work in the BRF where press is a daily event and not something one should seek. So problems loom ahead no matter what. By the way, my son is dating a wonderful woman from his social background and I couldn't be happier. I would have died had he chosen some actress......UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 06:11:03 pm
^yep, with the royal family's money. I'm sure she sent the bill to KP.
Odd engagement picture on the sitting on the steps. Notice that she's never been photgraphed inside an actual royal estate.
Frogmore House is where Harry introduced Chelsey to the queen. At least, unlike Mehgan, Chelsey got to meet the queen and actually enter the house.
For me this has so much shades of Wallis Simpson and the Duke of Windsor.  She reinvented them when the royal family wouldn't accept her and they became somehat of a Hollywood couple at the center of endless parties; wasting ther lives going on holiday, parties, the Duke designing/buying expensive couture and accessories for his plain, gready, social clubbing/bed hopping wife.  Both are burried at Frogmore House too.
^^quite right too. She's trash. This whole thin feels like a game even though at times I've been ticked off at the sheer stupid of harry being with this trashy gold digger. It's got to be a game because unlike any other royal engagement before it, this one's got so many odd goings on of it to be the real deal or for Harry to have totally lost the plot. Those bad revelations about her can't come out soon enough. People are either indifferent or ticked off with this whole farce.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 06:14:43 pm
^  :laugh: With the cost of the wedding can Harry be a giod boy and buy her the wedding too?  This wqt he'll prove how much he lives her - by spending all of his money on her and then some.

I think the BRF should make an ultimatum - prenup or they play beer pong at the wedding.

The showcase photo she has the expression of Gollum when it looks at "I own you now" pressios.

The picture where they are sitting she's looking like: Look at e b@tcheas. I won. He has rhe live look qhich is sad. She doesn't but again, it could be the botox..

The constant grabbing of his hand is supposed to look like she's shy, she's cute, she's in love in a girly, teenagery way. .. There is a whole industry in China and Japan that teaches women how to be cute and girly at all ages... My asian frienda told.me about this pic that: no elegance, bad acting, evil looking.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 06:34:46 pm
I can't really imagine any of his older friends or family is really happy about his, but what can they do. It would be a disaster if he didn't get permission to marry and left the BRF's duties as a result. That would be far more of a scandal than what MM is causing now. And she could get very nasty herself about them to the press as she knows too much about Harry. So you have to let it just unfold. If they had known about her at the beginning, maybe they could have discouraged it before it was too late. But I understood Harry to say he initially kept it secret from everyone even Wills. He probably knew they would have started discouraging him IMO. Or I am wrong and they are tickled pink to have Hollywood in their trenches. Maybe they need some excitement now that Kate has stopped flashing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 06:36:57 pm
MEghan is not without brain cells. She would hardly expect Prince Charles to pay for her dress now as fiancée and not part of the firm. I think more likely a besotted Harry got it for her. I may be wrong but that's my impression. If she was out to break up with Harry then yes, buying it and charging it to Charles would ensure that she would succeed and be out for good. Charles would not appreciate such behavior.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 21, 2017, 06:40:44 pm
^You have got to trust me in this one thing. Meghan Markle doesn’t care who pays for her costumes.  Just pay up.  Nothing is more true about her than that.  It’s all she knows.  Her self-perceived hard work and climbing is deserving of getting everything for her years of “struggle”.  The World owes her this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 06:41:39 pm
Harry may be like the Duke of Windsor and end up buying all sorts of bling for her. I can see this happening.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 06:53:29 pm
From the romantic pose to the risqué choice of dress: How Meghan and Harry's official engagement photos are a world away from Kate and William’s formal portraits (but both brides-to-be made sure to flash their rings!)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5202089/The-difference-Harry-Wills-engagement-photos.html#ixzz51vHIK2gp
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All the others had some sort of dignity. Mehgan's is just trashy; see through bodice and sitting outside on the steps. I'm waiting for the punchline because surely this whole farce is a joke.  :bored:  
Her tacky see through dress here and at the Christmas luncheon should be a preview for her risqué nude pictures and video that allegidly coming out.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 21, 2017, 07:00:36 pm
I have to laugh, it's funny!  :tehe: :laugh:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/705836d8292de56640b4e86fa57ab243/tumblr_p1bp2ffnuQ1rhf4kio1_500.jpg

https://78.media.tumblr.com/6a35e6b41c579083f7248bef7ae3d8b1/tumblr_p1bnwdNAAD1rhf4kio1_1280.jpg

keepingupwiththebananadrama. :flower: exactly , theys look like cover magazine  :sigh:

is true , the coat of Harry   :-  Burberry is more $3,000 ?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 07:14:37 pm
^ :tehe:  
this is a celebrity couple advertising their sonsored clothes and accessories, but Mehgan's the star and Harry and everything else are her co-stars.  :cookie:
The picture where they're sitting on the step, it looks like she has her elbow in his privates.  :tehe:   Lord, that's one tacky woman and tasteless pictures with harry looking like he's just taking direction from her as this is her photoshoot. She's a narc and a control freak. It's very grating to see her hold onto him for dear life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 07:28:31 pm
Our YM knows her type well. I just looked at their charts again. Her chiron in the 11th house is almost exactly conjunct his Moon in the fifth. Nothing easy about that aspect.  Her chart is almost all southern hemisphere which is the self as opposed to others, her Leo Sun is in her first house which means  me me me me me. He is the opposite in that he is all northern hemisphere but the moon in his fifth.  They won't last even if the stars were aligned when they met.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 21, 2017, 08:01:10 pm
The picture where they're sitting down on the steps, Harry looks like Adam Carter, the main chap who heads up his team in Spooks, the British tv show. I'm sure that people will be able to see her bare breast if they zoom into the picture, It's so tacky and tasteless to have a see through dress unless you're going for the tarty look like some actress love to do and then cry it's their right to wear what they want because they're a feminist.   :bored:
If this is to make the Cambridges seem like a nice traditional austere family, it's not working because this farce is scraping to bottom of the barrel and if you have to do something like tht theo boost Wills and Waity, then things must really be bad with them. The ongoing farce of this freakshow with harry looing stressed, annoyed and resigned to letting her do what she wants to Mehgan acting like she's won the lottery and throwing her R card around when she doesn't get her way just makes the entire royal family look bad. They're spposed to have security around them to make sure that crap people like Mehgan can't get anywhere near the. Now it looks like security's around them to keep normal, sane people away from them and the loonie in.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 08:23:45 pm
It's interesting how they have their official pictures outside, on the stairs in front of the front door. As if they gatecrashed KP and the family didn't allow them in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 21, 2017, 08:39:46 pm
The dress is super tacky (price and the see-through part and the price!!) and fugly. Just horrendous. And what is it with her and the see through blouse/ upper dress parts? For engagement pics and Xmas lunch! I had high hopes for her and her style and imo she was well dressed for the first engagement, but it's been downhill since.

The "people's prince" really nailed it with his princess-to-be and her thrifty dress.

I cannot believe the fugly and ostentatious Ralph & Russo monstrosity she chose, and also Victoria bloody Beckham, after that Knighthood distaster scandal. And the supposed Israeli designer, have these two any functioning brain cells left?

I cannot believe the headlines though, W&K engagement pics, the one (of the two published, he in pullover and she in white blouse) was said to be "casual and loving and Testino felt the love between them" and now it's "compare the casual Murkle pics to the stiff & formal Cambs pics!" yeah, sure :bored:

On the brooch at the Xmas lunch by princess Michael, I seriously dislike when some try to reduce issues with Murkles down to race (I don't mean this forum though, just to make that clear), but in this case it could be a dig by PM. She's been known to be vocal and say unacceptable things just like Philip (she said eg "go back to the colonies" to waiters I think) and this type of brooch isn't really worn anymore. But who knows.

Murkle's personal ear piece Lainey wrote an article on it

What Meghan saw at the Christmas lunch

http://www.laineygossip.com/princess-michael-of-kent-racist-jewelry-greets-meghan/48728

@lesken - it doesn't take a lot to "tame her hair everyday." Time consuming, yes, but once straightened thermally with a flat iron or pressing comb it will remain straight until moisture in the air hits the hair or its washed and then it's back to curly:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssl267Moy8I

I would think it's the same with European women who have curly hair who then straighten with a flat iron:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sb8b-c3dyys

Yes, the same principle applies to any wavy/ curly hair, but very very curly hair (be it very curly caucasian or African hair) is quite hard to tame, and many black women have their hair chemically treated to create permanent straightening (or rather treatments that last a few months, eg a Brazilian blow dry, sth that white women also do, and other chemical hair relaxing treatments that are much harsher, can't name any though as I have no experience with them).
I doubt M straightens her own hair and almost daily too (or maybe weekly, the curlier the hair, the drier it is and washing it isn't necessary as often as it is with straight hair), I'm sure she has appointments at a haidresser's every few months to chemically relax the hair.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CathyJane on December 21, 2017, 09:04:20 pm
^yep, with the royal family's money. I'm sure she sent the bill to KP.
Odd engagement picture on the sitting on the steps. Notice that she's never been photgraphed inside an actual royal estate.
Frogmore House is where Harry introduced Chelsey to the queen. At least, unlike Mehgan, Chelsey got to meet the queen and actually enter the house.
For me this has so much shades of Wallis Simpson and the Duke of Windsor.  She reinvented them when the royal family wouldn't accept her and they became somehat of a Hollywood couple at the center of endless parties; wasting ther lives going on holiday, parties, the Duke designing/buying expensive couture and accessories for his plain, gready, social clubbing/bed hopping wife.  Both are burried at Frogmore House too.
^^quite right too. She's trash. This whole thin feels like a game even though at times I've been ticked off at the sheer stupid of harry being with this trashy gold digger. It's got to be a game because unlike any other royal engagement before it, this one's got so many odd goings on of it to be the real deal or for Harry to have totally lost the plot. Those bad revelations about her can't come out soon enough. People are either indifferent or ticked off with this whole farce.


She is always always hanging on to him, like he's going escape. She looks quite desperate in doing that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 21, 2017, 09:11:15 pm
PS "Hollywood photographer" says it all, really.

I can't believe, still, that she (and he!) thought it would be a good idea to wear such an expensive and fugly dress.

The "sheer anything" trend needs a quick death. Gawd, I *despise* "trends" and fads. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 09:13:27 pm
Regarding the brooch PM wore. It is quite gaudy for a brooch and does not go with her outfit nor her earrings except for the black face and her black shirt. From the photograph of her in the car her eyes sort of said it all... very direct very sharp and trying to make a point. She is not a very nice person I think as we all know but she can be quite witty and direct. And definitely she  thinks shes higher blood and higher class than the lot of the Royals which she very well might be. It was a total put down in my opinion. Or an attempt of her to make light of the situation . I don't think it's a fashion choice because it looks out of place on what she's wearing from what I could see. But I imagine the looks Meghan got from some of the Royals based on what she was wearing probably is what got Harry red


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 21, 2017, 09:24:22 pm
You can't make this stuff up!!!    Pass the popcorn!!!!

http://images.zaazu.com/img/male29-male-theater-cinema-smiley-emoticon-000071-large.gif


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 21, 2017, 09:54:13 pm
The dress is super tacky (price and the see-through part and the price!!) and fugly. Just horrendous. And what is it with her and the see through blouse/ upper dress parts? For engagement pics and Xmas lunch! I had high hopes for her and her style and imo she was well dressed for the first engagement, but it's been downhill since.

The "people's prince" really nailed it with his princess-to-be and her thrifty dress.

I cannot believe the fugly and ostentatious Ralph & Russo monstrosity she chose, and also Victoria bloody Beckham, after that Knighthood distaster scandal. And the supposed Israeli designer, have these two any functioning brain cells left?
I wholeheartedly agree with you

Our YM knows her type well. I just looked at their charts again. Her chiron in the 11th house is almost exactly conjunct his Moon in the fifth. Nothing easy about that aspect.  Her chart is almost all southern hemisphere which is the self as opposed to others, her Leo Sun is in her first house which means  me me me me me. He is the opposite in that he is all northern hemisphere but the moon in his fifth.  They won't last even if the stars were aligned when they met.
has meghan many planets in Leo? or just her sun?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 10:08:13 pm
^^True. The see through dress, shoving it in people's face  that peonies are her favorite flowers, the merching - I bet that no matter how superior anyone in brf thinks they are, none of them think of themselves as cheap or tacky and that's what showed up on their steps.

Also, it's not the brooch, it's Meghan. PM can and should wear anything that's appropriate to her status in her own country, on a luncheon with her own family. The luncheon crasher here is Meghan, not PM. Africans, Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs are part of UK's history and whether it's something to be proud of or ashamed of - it is part of the history and honoring that is not a bad thing. Meghan could have come with something ethnic too, something other than bronzing her face in a not so flattering cultural misappropriation. If Meghan ever wants to be accepted for who she is, she needs to accept the brf's members for who they are and unlike her stooge, some of those royals are born and bread old-school nobility.

I came up with some hot topics that are more spicy than a stupid brooch: Is your father on the no-fly list to US for a reason or only to evade IRS. Or: How did you find BP on your school trip to London. You know, the one on which you knew nothing about UK and us prior and after? Or: Could you have spent just a little bit more on a better engagement dress?  This one looks cheap with all this missing lining.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 21, 2017, 10:23:16 pm
Even the engagement day dress was a part fail, with the nude shoes, for one everyone is over nude shoes and for another it's bloody Nov/ Dec in England!

With her apparent penchant for too light frocks during cold weather, ripped jeans and see through/ near naked outfits (even for the more dignified occasions), any bets  on how much of a state of un-dress she is going to be on the Xmas walk, in sandals maybe? And what the wedding dress will look like?
Like this maybe? That was an aristo wedding after all!
https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1299004.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Mary%20Charteris.jpg

http://image.gala.de/v1/cms/Hc/lady-mary-charteris-da_10611849-ORIGINAL-original.jpg?v=14126820

It's going to be a non-traditional wedding as we all know!

 :wopedo: :thumbsdown:

^^ Thank you! The one and only success so far was the outfit at the very first engagement in Nottingham, and her outfit just before the engagement announcement when she had her "facial" and had to hide like a Hollywood diva behind sunglasses. So 2 good ones.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 21, 2017, 10:31:08 pm
^ I knew I've seen this dress somewhere - on a list of wedding dress fails: https://www.thetalko.com/wedding-dress-fails-16-times-famous-stars-shocked-all-of-us/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 10:38:18 pm
I found the Nottingham outfit rather plain. Her engagement day coat and dress did not fit right.  I'd say nay to anything so far that was very tasteful. Her best outfit so far was the navy blue dress with the white blazer at the polo event last may.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 21, 2017, 11:02:32 pm
This isn’t Hollywood anymore. She needs to leave the sheer dresses behind and it’s not like she can pull them off anyway. I’ve nothing against sheer dresses but there’s a time and place for everything and Murky certainly doesn’t understand the concept. I’ve also no clue why so many act as though. She’s anywhere near a good dresser of fashionista.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 21, 2017, 11:11:15 pm
^^ The outfit as a whole is a matter of taste (well, as always :) ), but what has me hooked on it the most is that she was dressed for the weather, didn't flash, was modestly dressed and didn't make herself out to be a faux-Brit by donning a hat or similar. I have more positives, can't now think of them all, but these things stick out to me the most and for that alone I really like her outfit from that day.

^^^^^ Yeah, I suggest we let the brooch thing slide, it could really be either way, I kind of agree with everything that's been said here so far on the brooch topic.

^^^ That dress takes the cake for me, or is one of the dresses that does so. I wouldn't have allowed her inside the church if I were the vicar.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/21/14/47801ED000000578-5201959-image-m-174_1513864894121.jpg
Apart from the sheer-horror, the skirt part is ugly too. It's fugly, and I'm sorry I'm repeating myself so much, but I just can't get over the fugliness. Or the price tag.
Also, does Harry own any shoes that are not(!) suede???? Some nice, snazzy, polished black leather shoes would have looked so so good, but no, he looks like he just cycled over from the office on casual Friday, whilst Murkles is primed for the Oscars with her fugly dress.  :sly: Gawd. Help.

^ From "party prince" to "people's prince" to "Hollywood lackey sucker prince". What a progress. smh.
Don't know, she's had some good outfits on a whole, but also some really fugly ones.
An example http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/16/01/3C2297AA00000578-4123274-image-m-38_1484531123865.jpg  :thumbsdown:

Imo she's showing how off she is for it all, too Hollywood and too non-understanding of the culture.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 21, 2017, 11:16:31 pm
well said ladies, (VERY) well said:
nancylee, Albany NY, United States, 12 minutes ago
I didn't think Meghan was stupid, but I was wrong. A sheer dress. Wrong. A $75,000 sheer dress????? WRONG!! And is is reported that it was purchased, not borrowed. Whose horrible idea was this?? Carole Middleton's in her desire to make Meghan unpopular?? Cause anyone who wants Meghan to make a good first impression on the people who will be supporting her seriously misread this situation. And yes, the British people pay for all of these loafers who barely work. At least Charles and Camilla work. Kate, Harry and Wills altogether did fewer engagments than Charles or Anne alone. Charles pays for everything - the vacations, the helicopter rides, the private hunting trips - through the Duchy. Who owns the Duchy?? The British public. They support this $75,000 gown. Unbelievable. Heads will roll.

Miss Demeanour, Auburndale, United States, 6 minutes ago

Leave Carole out of this because this woman only does what she wants to do.


European23, Fortress of Solitude, Antarctica, 33 minutes ago

You all know who is buried at Frogmore? Wallis. It just gets better and better, this is a gift that keeps on giving. Announcing the engagement out in the cold in a place called "The Sunken Garden", shooting official engagement photos at Wallis´ burial site, getting married at Henry VIII burial site with his broken casket in the valve underneath their feet, getting married on the day of Anne Boleyn´s beheading. Is this script being written by a jobless Hollywood writer for deliberate laughs?

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Sarah Ferguson and Princess Michael must to be laughing hard lmao


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 21, 2017, 11:36:59 pm
As I said before George and Charlotte are tots and there is a baby next year. They cannot do royal duties. Uncle Harry will do them and he is ahead of them in that he is a grown up and can work now. The children need to go to school, University and George will go to Sandhurst.  Edward is still way down in line of succession and won't be the one to  take up the slack for the little Cambridges until they grow up. That's where Harry comes in. Charles had Harry on the balcony not Edward at the Queen's Jubilee where the scaled down family stood. No, the positions are not comparable. Harry may be down in line of succession, and unless child labor laws do not exist, those children can't do royal work. Edward is still way down in line of succession and he and Sophie married ages ago.  Babies and tots may be ahead of adults but not in the work department.

At the time that Sophie was working in private industry the very arguments you are using applied to Edward - the only working royals ahead of him were his parents, and Charles as Andrew was still full time in the navy. The others were still at school with university and army in front of them for the next 18 or so years and yet she, and Edward, were allowed to work privately.

There are more working royals ahead of Harry in the line of succession now than were ahead of Edward in 1999 as Harry has The Queen, Charles, Camilla, William and Kate as well as himself as working royals or 6 whereas Edward and Sophie only had 3 adult working royals ahead of them in the line when they married as Charles was single and Andrew was still a few years from retiring from the navy in which he served for over 20 years.

There is therefore even less need for Meghan to start working for the BRF than there was for Sophie given how many there are to do duties ahead of her and Harry now compared to how many there were ahead of Edward and Sophie when they married.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 21, 2017, 11:49:03 pm
Edward is the youngest of four. Although he still is ahead of Princess Anne in line of succession. You are talking about time past not the present. So how come Charles had Harry out on the balcony at the Queen's Jubilee. Charles indicated that Harry is going to be a part of his scaled down monarchy. Charles unlike the Queen only had two children.

Camilla does not work much compared to the other royals. William and Kate do not work much. Charles and the Queen do the most. And they are both seniors, the Queen over 90.  Philip retired this year. You make it seem like all the ones ahead of Harry are middle aged. Three are 69 and older and are slowing down. William has only recently increased the duties and Kate is pregnant now and has two young children. So Harry is needed unless you think the York girls should be deployed too.

Why is there less need for Meghan to work? She is marrying someone in Charles vision of scaled down monarchy. Edward is not figuring in that.

Talking about Edward many years ago is not the way it is today. And the Queen and Charles are older now. So the younger ones need to pick up the slack now.

Sophie was given leeway by the Queen to do work outside, an option not open to Meghan or Kate. Different scenarios.

You say there is less need for Meghan but Charles and the Queen made it plain that Harry not Edward will be involved in the scaled down monarchy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 21, 2017, 11:52:47 pm
To answer the astrology question. MM has only two planets in Leo. Her sun conjunct mercury in the first house. The north node is there as well. What she and Harry have going which is karmic other than their ascendants are opposite which can signify a marriage attraction, is her Chiron and his Moon are conjunct within a degree and his Chiron and her Moon(conjunct her Saturn and Jupiter) are trine within 4 degrees. The moon is the mother/emotions and Chiron is your wound that has to be healed. And painful lessons come with it. It is complicated to explain. But I have read that Chiron Moon aspects signify not fitting in well.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 12:03:20 am
^ :thankyou: according to astrotheme the dominant sign of harry is scorpio which i think more fitting to his personality, temper and scandals etc than virgo is


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 12:24:46 am
I hope I am not too off topic but I am looking at his chart now and he only has two planets in Scorpio and one is Pluto which is generational as it moves so slow. His Sun, Mercury and Venus are in his eighth house which is  normally ruled by Scorpio. But that house in his chart starts at 4 degrees Virgo. Most of his planets deposit into Venus in Libra. Only his Saturn deposits into Pluto in its own sign. So I disagree with them for what it is worth. If I ever do a good comparison, I'll start a thread on it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 22, 2017, 01:26:39 am
What's up with the pic of her wearing the sweater, was she trying to copy Kate? If so, then she did some research and so there is no reason as to why she wore that horrendous gown. A simple dress like Kate's would've been perfect and stay indoors.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 01:38:12 am
From the 'no touching' age of King George VI and the Queen Mother to Prince Harry and Meghan's passionate embrace: How the Monarchy has gone from stiff to schmaltzy in 100 years
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5204149/From-stiff-schmaltzy-100-years.html
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/22/00/article-5204149-4782956800000578-349_964x428.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/22/00/47826AE600000578-5204149-Sweet_smell_of_success_Meghan_s_loving_pose_appears_to_have_been-a-70_1513901970304.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/22/00/47826D8B00000578-5204149-image-a-71_1513901970305.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 01:58:02 am
I met this is totally awful. But I'm wondering now if they're just not going to sit her down and tell her you have to start being this way. She made rebell against it. But I can't imagine they're not going to do something about controlling her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 22, 2017, 03:09:11 am
I didn't particularly care for the R and R outfit Meghan wore on the engagement photos. I think a simple day dress would have been better. However, the photos themselves were lovely IMO and show how much in love this couple are.

 I think the dress was purchased for much, much less that the £56,000 figure that's been thrown around. It's from the 2016 range. And the top is lined, much as the cutouts on the dress worn for the BP Xmas lunch had material behind them. I'm looking forward to the Sandringham walk and whether Meghan will wear a hat.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Snowpea on December 22, 2017, 03:21:53 am
Pictures were contrived - how she is holding that ring, THAT is what she values, not him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 22, 2017, 03:51:33 am
In every single Royal engagement photo I can remember, and I go back a long way, the engagement ring worn by the female has figured prominently. Take a look at how Kate is holding her hand in the St James Palace pictures, Anne, Diana, they all show the ring off, and no doubt each photographer knows the ring has to be there, centre stage.

That third picture of Harry and Meghan is a candid, and the photographer took it because it showed their sense of fun.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 03:55:51 am
^true.
The whole thing cries Hollywood not royalty. This just goes to show she knows nothing about his position and is all about living out some fantasy of being a royal who can shake up the monarchy and bring glamour and Hollywood glitz to the stodgy boring staid old English institution. She's being called out more and more for being fake and see that Harry's doing nothing to help her image. People and reporters are seeing how fake this whole relationship is now. The monarchy does need a bit of tweaking to be relevant in this day and age but that comes with using their power and position to help others not being fodder for the tabloids and social media to show off a glamorous life like she's doing with her dumb lies during the interviews and dressing up in ultra expensive attire and enjoying pushing her own addenda. Hopefully she'll be the poster woman for the other flakes that try to use Harry to for their own gain and those that think that the monarchy needs to have this tackiness to appeal to the youth and the media age. Royalty aren't celebrities and hopefully people will see it with this fiasco that we have here.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 05:29:57 am
 In my humble opinion as a an American who  does not like Meghan Markle in the Royal Family, the only way you're going to get rid of all of this is if you get rid of them. I wonder if people realize that although recently in the last couple of decades Prince Charles and the Queen have volunteered to pay income tax finally they don't pay a lot of business tax for the duchies and all the other things they have. That money could go to help Britain incredibly and I'm just amazed that everybody in the UK just thinks well okay let's just keep giving them all the perks and they can just do what they want and marry who they want. They should be able to do that if they pay for themselves. And that means not just paying from tax-free money. My humble opinion. The British will do what they want and God bless them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 22, 2017, 09:57:34 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204091/Prince-Harrys-photoshoot-modernise-monarchy.html
I don't agree with this article at all. H&M IMO should always look good out of respect for the public. They obviously don't plan on hiding away and shirking duties like others we know.
HM always looks good as did Diana and even Campon tries her best. I don't think Meghan paid that amount for the dress, it was probably a gift or a loan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 22, 2017, 12:41:57 pm
The DM article also indicated that the gown may have been discounted and the full price was not paid. But the fine print is not read just the $$$. If Meghan looked slovenly, she would be trashed for wearing "cheap" clothes and so on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: DuchessChandelier on December 22, 2017, 12:53:12 pm
Looking forward to what sort of horrible dress she will wear at the wedding. Probably something like this:

https://data.whicdn.com/images/19118635/large.jpg (https://data.whicdn.com/images/19118635/large.jpg)

Or this:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/95/96/a29596de7fa2639676527d535cbef4c8--feather-wedding-gowns-trumpet-wedding-dresses.jpg (https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a2/95/96/a29596de7fa2639676527d535cbef4c8--feather-wedding-gowns-trumpet-wedding-dresses.jpg)
http://www.eveofmiladybridals.com/Eve%202016%20photos/4337FRONT.jpg (http://www.eveofmiladybridals.com/Eve%202016%20photos/4337FRONT.jpg)

She might also show off her "famous pins" in this one:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/91/f0/39/91f03930fc8ef6ba57f4d8cee3faebf4--wedding-white-feather-skirt.jpg (https://i.pinimg.com/736x/91/f0/39/91f03930fc8ef6ba57f4d8cee3faebf4--wedding-white-feather-skirt.jpg)

Someone on DM called her "Peg Leg Meg"...  :tehe:

I fear she will try to make a "fashion statement" totally not caring whether it is appropriate or not. And of course it does not matter to her at all what it costs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 01:06:26 pm
Anger as Princess Michael of Kent wears a controversial blackamoor brooch to the Queen’s Christmas lunch attended by Meghan Markle
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html
I'm not a fan of Princess Michael, but in this case, I don't think she's being offensive wearing that broach.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Stephanie on December 22, 2017, 01:10:10 pm
i noticed that too and it's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 22, 2017, 01:29:21 pm
I think Princess Michael is clueless.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 22, 2017, 02:06:08 pm
I think she is anything but clueless. Ruthless , a snob and a b**ch yes but clueless no. I have a feeling it may have been deliberate


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 22, 2017, 02:09:58 pm
^^^^^I like the nickname "Hollywood Harry" best of all that some have started calling him.  He deserves it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 02:35:44 pm
I think she is anything but clueless. Ruthless , a snob and a b**ch yes but clueless no. I have a feeling it may have been deliberate
True. But i'm more interested in comments of Philip...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 02:53:57 pm
Princess Michael of Kent was deliberate. I mean putting the black face on a white coat. Since that was a coat and not a jacket top, she took the coat off at the party so I don't know the Meghan saw that except in the press like all of us. For some strange reason these car photos of MM make her look more black than white. I don't know if that was the photographer's doing or she is wearing darker makeup to match the dark colored cocktail dress she wore to the lunch. There is a funny TV show called the Windsors which has a parody on all of them. They even have sparkles in it being a completely idiotic Valley type girl incredibly stupid portrayed Harry. People get what's going on. Princess Michael of Kent doesn't need to make subtle statements. This couple is perfectly capable of looking ridiculous all on their own.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 22, 2017, 03:14:13 pm
I'm still of the opinion that Princess Michael wore this 1) because it's valuable and had sparkly jewels; and 2) because it depicts one of the three Magi and she was going to a Christmas luncheon.  We all know what she is like, but at this point of her life, with the Queen at the end of her reign and knowing that Charles is not overly fond of her, I just don't think she would do something deliberately offensive.   

I think a mountain is being made out of a molehill, and the majority of comments in the Daily Mail agree. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 03:29:19 pm
Charles doesnt appears THAT enthusiastic about meghan... i dont think he'll or does care about this brooch situation


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 22, 2017, 04:11:15 pm
Quote
@RoyalReporter
Many want glamour from the Royal Family but is it wise to wear a dress that costs as much as a house in some parts of the UK?

Richard Palmer
@RoyalReporter
How Harry and Meghan sprinkled Hollywood stardust on the Royal Family with some familiar studio poses and a £56,000 dress.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRoyx3kWkAAhfc6.jpg:large


^^^^^I like the nickname "Hollywood Harry" best of all that some have started calling him.  He deserves it.
or Duke and Duchess of Hollywood  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 05:24:11 pm
Meghan super fans have ALREADY tracked down replicas for her entire engagement shoot look including a QVC ring made in Vietnam (and they’ve identified her nail varnish too)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5206219/Meghan-Markle-fans-track-engagement-shoot-replicas.html
 :tehe:
She's regally vulgar. She's basically rubbing her almost naked breast into his arm.  :nervous:

What's going to be the next race row; her having to curtsy to Harry's white family, taking all of the historical artworks out of all royal residences because it's offensive to her because a few black people are seen in servitude roles and women appear semi-naked and such.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 06:13:29 pm
Fergie was vulgar as well at times. Why the second sons like these women boggles my mind. I do think that posing where Wallis and David were buried may be a tribute to them since she was an American divorced woman who was not accepted or given HRH as Sparkles is and will get. So, that could be considered a nice gesture to a great-great  pushed aside uncle. It may just be they liked that place and they like the outdoors for the formal look. Sparkles did pose in an evening gown in bare feet (not the greatest looking feet) so she likes the fancy with causal touches look. Does the firm really have any say in how the wives dress? I mean they can suggest, but based on some of the early Fergie outfits they couldn't have forced anything. So Sparkles will do her own thing which is what she knows and is comfortable with which is Hollywood. I just read the article where Harry talked about leaving the BRF but stayed for the Queen. So he is not so into this glitz and glamour which is interesting that he chose Meghan of all people. But they had a low keyed romance. Now this has changed. She is the more intelligent, manipulative  in charge one in the relationship. He will be swept into her thing for as long as he takes it. Harry likes his simple ways and just rolls with things as he is advised to do. At least that is what he says more or less.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 22, 2017, 06:17:28 pm
The DM article also indicated that the gown may have been discounted and the full price was not paid. But the fine print is not read just the $$$. If Meghan looked slovenly, she would be trashed for wearing "cheap" clothes and so on.

That doesn't make it better.

I read one comment that said it's disgusting that Kate (or M?) wore clothes worth more than many people's houses, who rely on food banks etc.
So these people sit on millions (and actually more likely billions, it's not like their finances are known), and either buy these ostentatious things themselves or, worse yet, are given discounts on clothing or given it as freebie, in spite of their wealth.
But the people who pay for these disgusting spongers don't have enough money to put some bread on the table and pay for heating; child benefits have been scrapped for 3rd children, and Bill the Plumber prances around lecturing people to not have many kids "for the environment" whilst at the same time announcing Cambs3 to the world; and additional benefits for pensioners who are poor have also been scrapped, so many can't afford to heat their council flats.

PS Also Murkles little pap walk when shopping at Waitrose and her bag "alleviate poverty" or what was the slogan? These people...  :sly:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 22, 2017, 06:24:25 pm
^^^ She'll refuse to curtsy as it will be beneath her to curtsy to a family of all white people. She won't get it in her perm straight head that this is tradition, not racial oppression. She'll think in her delusional mind that if she refuses to curtsy it will be modernization of the family instead of rude ignorance of the culture and the traditions.

@lesken, Oh, yes, Meghan was making a statement of her own. She was reminding everyone that she's half black. On one of the photos you can see how big is the difference between the color of her face and her hand.

@Miss Hathaway and @windsor2 Yes, people are not easily fooled. DM commenters are not easily fooled. Meghan's ignorance towards the British culture is starting to show big time (lainey already posted Meghan's complaint to the brooch).



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 06:48:22 pm
@Ariel. She doesn't have to remind everyone. Look at her hair texture and you know that she has black blood. Look at her nose job. It's there just not too obvious anymore. Her mother is lighter black skin so interestingly her children may have very little trace of having African ancestry other than hair texture or the nose if they even get that. She could actually have blonde blue eyed kids with H if her dad's genes line up with H. I went to grammar school with a girl and her sister that had that same racial mix. One was blonde blue eyed and the other looked more black but was very light skinned black. I don't know that the race card will work much for her in the future. But now PM has had to retire her brooch because of Markles playing the race card. So she is affecting BRF. Maybe it is a good thing in some respects. Who knows.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: SouthernBelle on December 22, 2017, 07:10:36 pm
The dresses she wore to the luncheon and for the official engagement photos are more appropriate for a cocktail or dinner party.  She needs to hire a decent stylist STAT since she clearly has no clue as to appropriate attire. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 22, 2017, 08:00:18 pm
I agree with the luncheon dress being appropriate for a cocktail/dinner party. However, her engagement dress is more appropriate for a black tie event such as the Academy Awards. I know she will angle a way to get there with Harry and then she can use it or at some premiere they will attend. Harry was in a regular blue colored suit which clashed with her gown. They both need fashion consultants.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 08:05:00 pm
BREAKING NEWS: ‘Distressed’ Princess Michael of Kent apologises for wearing a 'racist' Blackamoor brooch to meet Meghan at the Queen's Christmas lunch and plans to ‘retire it for good’
Princess Michael of Kent wore controversial brooch to Queen’s Christmas lunch
Blackamoor is genre of art or jewellery showing men and women with black skin
Event was attended by Prince Harry’s mixed race fiancée Meghan Markle 
One who spotted it said: 'Meghan meets the family and is greeted by THIS?’


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Time to spay Churchills statue white its really offending.



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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 08:07:08 pm
^^^no, she needs to take her racist tacky behind back to California. What's up with outsiders like her disturbing other people with their bs. The monarchy is for the British and commonwealth people to decide if they're wanted and not this p c bs and I'll say tokenism. That's what Meghan seems to be pushing her; that the British royal family's too white and needs a bit of black there to reflect the public. The monarchy will be changed from and by the people that it means something to, not s cheap upstart strumpet like Meghan. IMO what this article really says is that she's never met Princess Michael before even though for months there've been reports of her living as her neighbor at Notts Cottage with Harry. This whole affair smacks of WAG reality show instead of a royal engagement.
Harry's face looking Ike thunder leaving the luncheon should deter him from going to Sandringham as imo, he wouldn't have looked like that if his little madam was a wanted guest.
^^if this whole nightmare isn't a joke, then Harry needs to relocate to Hollywood with her and look for work to support her expensive taste or try and live off the interest of his inheritance. There must be a joke here somewhere because the so called official engagement picture where they're sitting on the steps doesn't look like Harry to me as his Jair's fuller and his lip area looks odd. How a man only last year talking about liking his privacy to being engaged to this fame h and o is beyond me that it has to be some sort of a joke.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 22, 2017, 08:12:52 pm
^^^ I take greater offence at the old suede shoes that clashed worse than the suit with everything. Doesn't he have a fancy pair of black polished leather shoes?
 :-

Angling for an invite to the Oscars.. Yep and Waity will turn positively green with envy if H&M get an invite and she and Bill do not. :Kate:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 08:21:50 pm
Somehow I HIGHLY doubt Harry and Meghan knows the history of that brooch ...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 22, 2017, 08:26:06 pm
^what do you mean?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 08:29:14 pm
Blackamoor means racism or offend black people etc... i dont believe they have a clue about this sort of stuff... i dont think they are THAT cultured, sophisticated, you know

i dont doubt Harry found out now with this controversy: . Blackamoor: a contemptuous term used to refer to any dark-skinned person


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 08:42:53 pm
Black moors were also scholars who went around teaching in Europe. Elizabeth I had them deported out of England for being seen as exotic and too educated. Meghan offends people of color because she plays the race card when things don't go her way and she wants to play victim whilst at the same time, had plastic surgery to minimize her ethnicity so she can be ethically ambiguous. Princess Michael doesn't seem like a nice person but I don't think she deliberately wore that broach on purpose to offend the idiot who could care about her black side or black people unless she needs to play victim. Oh, yes she did because her pictures were torn apart and seen as fake and she apparently didn't stay for the luncheon that long. Harry won't be able to take this fool anywhere as she'll cry racism everywhere she goes. She's only fit for staying outside as all her pictures with Harry have shown.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 22, 2017, 08:46:54 pm
And here's what I found for the brooch itself. It's italian craftsmanship. imo the racist is in quotes in these articles because as dianab said, both wannabe Hollywood celebrities lack the sophistication to know that is the real meaning of these jewels.

https://www.eredijovon.com/en/8-antique-blackamoor-jewelry-earrings-brooch-pendant
https://www.eredijovon.com/en/blog/blackamoor-history-and-definition-the-real-venetian-jewelry-n6

Apparently Grace Kelly and Liz Taylor loved them and ... Meghan missed her chance to enjoy something nice.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 22, 2017, 09:16:44 pm
^Thank you.  I am appalled at the abundance of ignorance over a beautiful piece of jewelry.  Good grief this is going to get ugly and uglier.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 22, 2017, 09:17:29 pm
Anger as Princess Michael of Kent wears a controversial blackamoor brooch to the Queen’s Christmas lunch attended by Meghan Markle
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html
I'm not a fan of Princess Michael, but in this case, I don't think she's being offensive wearing that broach.

look forward to more like this  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 09:32:46 pm
True, but ignorant dummy will lose because she'll look foolish and ignorant thinking everything's about race as she'll continue to erase her black ethnicity to play up her white part. She's only fit to stay outside and away from anything historical.
I can't post a tweet here because it said it was deleted but it's a picture of the engagement picture where they're sitting down on the steps. The headline says "Saucy Meg's Royal Flash" on the Daily Star newspaper. So much innuendos of sex regarding those pictures.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 22, 2017, 09:43:01 pm
The press is really calling her out over these engagement pictures and cost of the dress

http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,9299.msg381891/boardseen.html#new

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/895682/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-Loose-Women-Kaye-Adams-Andra-McLean-ITV



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 22, 2017, 09:53:21 pm
And another
http://img.kiosko.net/2017/12/22/uk/daily_star.200.jpg

Apols Mods for double post..was having trouble copying link on mobile

 :shy: :sorry:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 22, 2017, 10:24:27 pm
^ I didnt realise she wasnt wearing a bra  :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 22, 2017, 10:26:03 pm
SARAH VINE: The problem with soap operas is that people switch off... once the royals become celebrities, they risk turning a monarchy that has endured centuries into little more than daytime TV

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204091/Prince-Harrys-photoshoot-modernise-monarchy.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 22, 2017, 10:33:09 pm
^^ what with "waity no knickers" and braless Sparkles!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 22, 2017, 10:51:34 pm
^yep, the modernization of royalty.  :cookie:  She had no bra on whilst wearing a shear see through bodice dress and rubbing them on Harry's arm in the black and white photo and the color one the steps. Cheap, common and tacky.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 22, 2017, 11:06:24 pm
forfsake, London, United Kingdom, about a minute ago

Well maltesers adverts are doing there best to convince us white men do not exist anymore

Daisy, Ste-Adele, Canada, moments ago


One of the Three Wise Men was a blackamoor. She was probably wearing it for the Christmas season.

aphne Dalrymple, Tetbury Gloucestershire, United Kingdom, moments ago

It is a brooch depicting one of the Three Kings - Balthazar who brought myrrh - Google it.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204907/Princess-Michael-Kent-wears-racist-Blackamoor-brooch.html#ixzz522Alv6qR
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 22, 2017, 11:27:26 pm
^^ I bet harry loved the feel of that :tehe:. he wasn't wearing underwear or they wasn't giving him much support cause in the B&W pic of them walking he's rocking moose knuckles


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 22, 2017, 11:49:55 pm
Only one of the newspapers, The Star, stated that Meghan wasn't wearing a bra, in the original reporting. The others said nothing of the kind, nor did commentators. And as the Star has about a quarter of the credibility of even the Fail as a tabloid I think we can gather what sort of credibility that 'newspaper' has got. Harry has worn loose boxers for years and there's been joking about that for ages online.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 23, 2017, 12:00:05 am
is it May yet!? :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 12:10:05 am
^Not by a long shot, m’dear.  And even then, it will just be another Round in the Boxing Ring.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 23, 2017, 02:48:16 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5204091/Prince-Harrys-photoshoot-modernise-monarchy.html
I don't agree with this article at all. H&M IMO should always look good out of respect for the public. They obviously don't plan on hiding away and shirking duties like others we know.
HM always looks good as did Diana and even Campon tries her best. I don't think Meghan paid that amount for the dress, it was probably a gift or a loan.

You can look good without wearing a piece of clothing valued at the cost of a house (be it paid for, gifted, or borrowed) and being completely tone deaf to what's going on in the financial lives of the people you profess to serve. But hey. Who cares as long as the pics look good. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 23, 2017, 03:14:44 am
Ah relax Fly I trust in Yoopers coin, it won't last long. :there:
I just hope I can get enough popcorn for when the sparks start flying and the smelly stuff hit's the fan :tehe:
Wearing a dress with the pricetag of a small house is a good start... :thumbsdown:
56k! that's halve of Kate's annual total outfit budget for one dress!!!!  :o


And now I think about it....about twice my annual income! :sob: (maybe I should start asking the bossman for a pay raise..... :spy:)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 23, 2017, 03:47:46 am
About that brooch...I think Meghan should release a statement warning the media to stop with their race-bating. We don't know how she felt about that brooch or if she even saw it. Princess Michael might've been honoring Meghan with that brooch. Who knows?

I don't want the press acting as if they are Meghan and forcing people who they think are being racist towards to her to apologize. They forced a woman to apologize for an African-looking brooch she wore just because her cousin-in-law is marrying a part African woman! I don't like it!

This press is setting a dangerous trend with this and she hasn't even married yet. So Meghan should release a statement and take the power back from the press on this matter.

Can you imagine the awkwardness the next time Meghan and Princess Michael are the same room together? At the wedding reception? And it's all because of the press. Princess Michael is going to resent Meghan for what the press forced her to do and its not Meghan's fault. I hope the two of them have a chat.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 04:02:52 am
^Sparkles and Harry's silence is pereceived as consent for the apology and assumed outrage.  You are correct.  I'm not going to hold my breath, though, for any kind of stabilizing from either of them.  She has to answer to her legion of revolting (both meanings apply) activists and Harry hasn't a clue what a mess this is.  Not yet.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 23, 2017, 04:29:14 am
I'm black American and I was not offended by the broach. When I saw the picture of it, I knew exactly what it was. PM has been known to do and say some racist stuff but, in this case, I don't think she was trying to be malicious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 23, 2017, 04:33:29 am
^^very true.
IMO, it makes no sense for Harry not to have an inkling of what a person Meghan is and I'm sure that the senior royals like Charles knows, so why have this circus carry on. It's bad for the print press and tv to have multiple negative articles about her messing up and looking cheap. People are going to question why and what Harry's doing with her and why people should put up with her "let them eat cake" mentality. Her presence is making not just Harry, but the whole royal family look bad; like they're been drawn into this bad novella that just gets tacky each passing day. Will the queen be disturbed during her quiet time at Sandringham on Christmas as Harry brings her to the church or will this nightmare be over as she's gone back to the States because of the 2 uproars that she caused. The reason I say she caused it is because she's made a fuss over nothing a few times in the press with her idiotic ramblings in magazines, her defunct website The Tig and her tv appearances that's been reported on since she outed this so called relationship. Lets not forget that dumb and unnecessary statement basically calling the press and British people racist. I'd love this fiasco to be payback for her lies and deceit.
^but you know Meghan would make issue of it to play the victim especially since she's getting people extremely irritated with her lack of compassion and sense for that tacky expensive dress and the Hollywood fake "love" pictures with Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 04:45:38 am
^If I was a betting woman, I'd lay money on Sparkles making some comment or appearing upset and then Harry leaping on his white horse.  Then, she can play at being the reasonable one and pat his hand saying, "It's nothing."  Major manipulation champ here.

^^Neither do I.  Tempest in a teapot.  But, somebody said something or PM would never have issued an apology.  Perhaps also the massive heat from the US media who pounced all over it.  They love being outraged about perceived racism whether real or not.  But, I don't see PM really giving a hoot about the US press unless directed to do something.  

Personally, I think there's a lot of drama going on behind the scenes.  The British are much more subtle in their contempt than in America.  I've seen some things, oh boy.  Drinks "accidentally" spilled, blatant remarks "What happened to the nice dress you said you were going to wear?" all the way to throwing people out just because they don't like them.  The opportunities for Nutmeg to say the wrong thing, because open discourse is normal to her, are exponential, too.

It's helpful to remember that she comes from a country where currently her ilk want to ban Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer and Dr. Seuss books because they're racist, sexist and bullying.   :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 23, 2017, 05:11:14 am
^so it begs the question why she wants to foist herself on the royal family and the British people. Harry will spend the rest of his life wasting time defending this strumpet that he'll have no time to be a working royal. Besides she won't be able to get her visa so is this a shame that she's pushing to get world wide recognition to boost her now non existent career; to springboard to being a spokesperson/model for high end brands? Lets see if she'll complain about this:
Meghan Markle’s imagined first Christmas at Sandringham
http://www.tatler.com/article/meghan-markle-christmas-at-sandringham
This magazine covers the posh set around the world but with concentration on British society.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 05:49:18 am
^I would think the glossy, over the top, extravagant and heavily styled engagement photos should answer all your questions, windsor, as to what her end game truly is.  And it ain't a lasting, solid, restrained and dignified marriage to Harry playing second banana (ha!) to anybody.  And, technically, she is always going to be in second place overall. 

Second place is never ever ever the plan with her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 23, 2017, 05:50:11 am
ok if tatler mag is now starting in on the roast, it's bad!  :tehe: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 23, 2017, 07:02:46 am
YM Second Place? More like fifth. Hi


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 23, 2017, 07:25:07 am
^Sparkles and Harry's silence is pereceived as consent for the apology and assumed outrage.  You are correct.  I'm not going to hold my breath, though, for any kind of stabilizing from either of them.  She has to answer to her legion of revolting (both meanings apply) activists and Harry hasn't a clue what a mess this is.  Not yet.

Well, if a statement is not released by Meghan, KP, or Harry regarding this race-bating about a brooch, then I hope that Meghan can be a grown woman and talk to Princess Michael in order to avoid drama during the extended family functions.

The press will have this to talk about on the day of the wedding as well. How many of you are willing to bet (just an expression) that the cameras will be on Princess Michael as she arrives to the wedding?  lol



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 23, 2017, 08:31:28 am
I think  The ones to watch will be the families of the bride and groom sitting at the front and watching the proceedings.. IMO anyway. Oh and what the bridal gown will look like which hopefully will be a surprise. ANd if William will make a joke about the FA games when he toasts the couple.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 23, 2017, 08:35:34 am
Meghan already complained about PM to her friend Lainey: http://www.laineygossip.com/princess-michael-of-kent-racist-jewelry-greets-meghan/48728 just like she complained about Kate not driving her to Harrods the minute Kate didn't offer to be her servant.

The engagement photos show what Meghan's intentions are: marry for the money, take up as much as you can and try to land a major role despite the lack of acting skills.

The brooch racist allegations show two more things besides bringing up the race card every time something doesn't get her way (her ex employers have already been burned with it) - the "sophisticated" Tig drinker didn't do a good job at researching on expensive things the brf likes, lack knowledge on what her own industry's royalty likes, but most importantly - has no idea who is Baltazar and what his place is in a brooch on a Christmas luncheon. She's a faud. Total fraud.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 23, 2017, 10:13:37 am
In all honesty, I believe  Lainey reads lipstick alley. It's an urban blog that varies from topics on celebrities, television/ music/ books, astrology & anything else that crosses the mind( last week they were exchanging recipes for the holidays). My baby sister introduced me to the site to help with my Tyler Perry & Reality Show guilty pleasures 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 23, 2017, 10:50:44 am
 :sorry:about the double post but ....
  https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jordan-peele-tweets-get-out-joke-about-meghan-markle-and-prince-harry_us_5a3d5522e4b025f99e16fbac?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2017, 12:19:54 pm
And here's what I found for the brooch itself. It's italian craftsmanship. imo the racist is in quotes in these articles because as dianab said, both wannabe Hollywood celebrities lack the sophistication to know that is the real meaning of these jewels.

https://www.eredijovon.com/en/8-antique-blackamoor-jewelry-earrings-brooch-pendant
https://www.eredijovon.com/en/blog/blackamoor-history-and-definition-the-real-venetian-jewelry-n6

Apparently Grace Kelly and Liz Taylor loved them and ... Meghan missed her chance to enjoy something nice.
True. I think his choice of main diamond (in engagement ring) shows his lack of expertise in jewels IMO... i agree with certain comments in DM the ring looked cheap


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 01:09:32 pm
^^I understand that sometimes a double post is accidental.  Just remember that saying "sorry" doesn't make it continually ok.  I think this has happened a couple of times for you now.   Just be more careful in the future.  It really confuses the flow of conversation.  This is also a reminder for all posters.  Thank you and happy posting!  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 23, 2017, 05:02:38 pm
Two more days til the Christmas Walk, kids!!  What fun we shall have!!     :JOY:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2017, 05:30:06 pm
MEGHAN: Sure. (To Edward) So what do you do? (Room erupts with laughter and his lip starts to quiver)

ANDREW: Tell her about your time in the Marines. It won’t take long.

(Edward flees the room in tears)

SARAH: Never get your toes sucked by a Texan and never go on It’s A Knockout. In fact if you want fun, run a mile, dear
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/how-meghan-might-make-markle-11739817
lmao i suppose edward misses his sailor friends, c'est la vie... BTW Meghan will regrets in due time not taking articles like that as serious as their future wedding


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 23, 2017, 05:32:54 pm
^^No kiddin'.

Since one (or more) needs a brain, one a heart, one courage and the other ready to get into a b&tchnfight over a pair of shoes:

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ozwikia/images/1/1e/WOZFeatured.jpg)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 23, 2017, 07:21:54 pm
There is only one thing to say at this point being a Yank, Donald Trump was not allowed on a State visit because he was so vulgar. Now you got a vulgar American princess in the UK that. I *despise* to admit this but you just can't escape it.lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 23, 2017, 08:20:32 pm
 ^Exactly!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 23, 2017, 08:28:02 pm
^^isn't that interesting that Trump's not getting a state visit after all and the queen won't have to deal with him.
The so called royal repoters are licking Meghan's shoes, even Dickie it seems. Are they now affraid to either ignore her or suck up to her because if they don't, they'll be accused of being racist? So tired of hearing about how rich and successful she is and can afford to buy that ultra expensive dress for herself. Since ver the year, the press has laid bare tht she has her boyfriends pay her way, I believe that that dress was brought by someone mae but not Harry. This woman's caused nothing but discord and division and will continue to do so. How can Hary possibly think that he can carry on with his charaties and such when he's linked to someone wh has no issue using the race card and anything else to play victim as she clings onto him for dear life. His image contines to take hits and people are now becoming irritated and more indifferent. This woman won't shut up and is seen to run ragged as she exercises her freedom to do and wear what she wants. The engagement dress was bad but the see through top dress for the luncheon was worse. She's showing Harry and the royals she'll do as she damned well plaease and don't think about telling her about protocol and how to dress appropriately for certain occasions. The bottlom lin is that people aren't invested in the royal family that much anymore and this circus only hastens the cry for people not wanting to deal with them as they're too expensive and allowed to drag in unsavory people like Mehgan to ram down the people's throats. they're seen as out of touch and do as they please which is sad at the end of the day.

https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter
https://twitter.com/RoyalDickie?lang=en


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2017, 08:43:20 pm
Richard Palmer cracks under pressure - it's obvious

As for Dickie he's a royal *butt* kisser all his life then no news


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 23, 2017, 08:52:19 pm
royal whispers
‏ @royalwhisper
8h8 hours ago
Replying to @alittlebitroyal @HeavenQRF

Big difference Kate had no real income, Kate lived off parents,prior to marriage. Meghan has worked, become quite wealthy and as a single woman made Millions. She had this dress for awhile before engagement. It's HER hard earned money.  #cueFauxoutrage.

Dickie reblogged this....  :laugh: uhm not looking good for Kate


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2017, 09:02:38 pm
still I do not think the queen & family are welcoming her

IMO this comment listed everything shows the real feelings of the Windsors:
You all know who is buried at Frogmore? Wallis. It just gets better and better, this is a gift that keeps on giving. Announcing the engagement out in the cold in a place called "The Sunken Garden", shooting official engagement photos at Wallis´ burial site, getting married at Henry VIII burial site with his broken casket in the valve underneath their feet, getting married on the day of Anne Boleyn´s beheading. Is this script being written by a jobless Hollywood writer for deliberate laughs?



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 23, 2017, 09:14:40 pm
Maybe, he should have his state visit but instead of her HM it could be with Princess Michael. Imagine the conversations. PM, "Go back to the  colonies." Trump, " They won't go back to their huts." And for official note taking for  reporting, Sarah "niggling" Vine. 
I kid you not for the past week I've been staring at the calendar and I'm shocked  :Kate: that it's 2017. (This is coming from a black woman from south Louisiana married to a white man from South Carolina, where there are zero subtleties).
Prayers for a better 2018(God knows we need more laughter) :loveshower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 23, 2017, 09:43:54 pm
In my opinion, the Brits' snitty attitude toward Trump while kissing up to Obama when B. O. was the one condescendingly lecturing the Brits about Brexit and warning that they would be "back of the line" (and Harry's lack of warmth toward our First Lady) is quite obnoxious.  Therefore, I'm enjoying the fact that they are getting one of B.O.'s tacky minions thrust into their very monarchy.    LOL.   I hope she won't stay, but I'm enjoying the show.       :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 23, 2017, 10:00:02 pm
My prayers are for "birthers", racists, haters, oppressors, opportunists, heartless / soulless /spiteful, & the person(s) whose  face  can't move because it's filled with botulism. 2018 has got to get better
More laughs, love, & hugs kisss


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 23, 2017, 10:04:13 pm
still I do not think the queen & family are welcoming her

IMO this comment listed everything shows the real feelings of the Windsors:
You all know who is buried at Frogmore? Wallis. It just gets better and better, this is a gift that keeps on giving. Announcing the engagement out in the cold in a place called "The Sunken Garden", shooting official engagement photos at Wallis´ burial site, getting married at Henry VIII burial site with his broken casket in the valve underneath their feet, getting married on the day of Anne Boleyn´s beheading. Is this script being written by a jobless Hollywood writer for deliberate laughs?



Not only is Wallis buried at Frogmore but in all likelihood that is where Harry himself will be buried. It is where the minor family members end up with only the monarchs and spouses inside the major churches like the Abbey or St Georges. There are only two monarchs at Frogmore - Victoria and Edward VIII.

Yes Henry VIII is buried there but it is also where all the monarchs of the 20th century are buried Edward VII, George V and George VI. It is where his grandparents and father and Camilla will also be buried (when they built the George VI chapel they left space for six coffins - George VI's, Elizabeth the Queen Mum, Elizabeth II and Philip and Charles and his consort (he was only a child at the time but the still planned for him). Princess Margaret had to be cremated to be able to be put in there as there wasn't room for her in a full coffin - even in 2002 they were leaving space for a coffin for a spouse for Charles.

Maybe William will have another mausoleum built somewhere for future monarchs - assuming he funds it himself as I doubt the British public would foot the bill but even so that would be for monarchs and spouses not the siblings and cousins. Frogmore is for them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 23, 2017, 10:08:39 pm
^^
@ohmy
I don't understand where your post comes from and it has nothing to do with Meghan or Harry.  ???

In any case let's remember that according to the rules

Refrain of any kind of extreme political, religious or racial statements in your posts.


So please keep the political discussion to the appropriate thread and keep this for Meghan and Harry engagement. Let's keep nice for everyone to discuss, whether they like Meghan or not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 23, 2017, 10:17:27 pm
And here's what I found for the brooch itself. It's italian craftsmanship. imo the racist is in quotes in these articles because as dianab said, both wannabe Hollywood celebrities lack the sophistication to know that is the real meaning of these jewels.

https://www.eredijovon.com/en/8-antique-blackamoor-jewelry-earrings-brooch-pendant
https://www.eredijovon.com/en/blog/blackamoor-history-and-definition-the-real-venetian-jewelry-n6

Apparently Grace Kelly and Liz Taylor loved them and ... Meghan missed her chance to enjoy something nice.
True. I think his choice of main diamond (in engagement ring) shows his lack of expertise in jewels IMO... i agree with certain comments in DM the ring looked cheap

What would you hae liked to see or chosen as engagement ring/ main stone?


^^ The problem with Margaret was though that she wanted specifically to be buried with her father, and where her father was, there wasn't room for another coffin, so she decided to be cremated (a first and unusual for a Windsor) so she could fit.

still I do not think the queen & family are welcoming her

IMO this comment listed everything shows the real feelings of the Windsors:
You all know who is buried at Frogmore? Wallis. It just gets better and better, this is a gift that keeps on giving. Announcing the engagement out in the cold in a place called "The Sunken Garden", shooting official engagement photos at Wallis´ burial site, getting married at Henry VIII burial site with his broken casket in the valve underneath their feet, getting married on the day of Anne Boleyn´s beheading. Is this script being written by a jobless Hollywood writer for deliberate laughs?


When you put it like that and sum it up, it does seem ominous...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 23, 2017, 11:08:33 pm
^^
@ohmy
I don't understand where your post comes from and it has nothing to do with Meghan or Harry.  ???

In any case let's remember that according to the rules

Refrain of any kind of extreme political, religious or racial statements in your posts.


So please keep the political discussion to the appropriate thread and keep this for Meghan and Harry engagement. Let's keep nice for everyone to discuss, whether they like Meghan or not.
Gotcha. Normally, engagements/ weddings  as beautiful celebrations regardless if there at a courthouse, castle, underwater, on the way on serving a yearlong tour of duty, & even at a cemetery(military service brings many interesting friends).  But something about this engagement feels ugly. Hoping for the best & now off to care for my patients. 10 hours to go :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 23, 2017, 11:25:53 pm
Harry and Meghan didn't get buried near Wallis's burial site at all. The Frogmoore estate is huge and very beautiful, and Wallis is buried with her husband on a part of the estate cur off from the public that is a site for dozens of other royals, many happily married.

Many large estates in England have features called 'The Sunken Garden'. There nothing to the name. Countless royals have  got married in an Abbey with tombs and vaults and dead bodies all around. Why is that less morbid?

 In fact you'd be hard pressed to find any ancient prestigious church in England that doesn't have dead people buried under the apse. Royal chapels most of all. St George's holds the bones of a dozen monarchs, most of them not tyrants and several happily married. There have also been happy Royal weddings at St George's.

Why is it any better to be married on the anniversary of Hitler's wedding to Eva Braun, April 29th 2011, than on the anniversary of the death of a long dead early Tudor Queen that few Britons care about and some don't know?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 23, 2017, 11:47:40 pm
And here's what I found for the brooch itself. It's italian craftsmanship. imo the racist is in quotes in these articles because as dianab said, both wannabe Hollywood celebrities lack the sophistication to know that is the real meaning of these jewels.

https://www.eredijovon.com/en/8-antique-blackamoor-jewelry-earrings-brooch-pendant
https://www.eredijovon.com/en/blog/blackamoor-history-and-definition-the-real-venetian-jewelry-n6

Apparently Grace Kelly and Liz Taylor loved them and ... Meghan missed her chance to enjoy something nice.
True. I think his choice of main diamond (in engagement ring) shows his lack of expertise in jewels IMO... i agree with certain comments in DM the ring looked cheap

What would you hae liked to see or chosen as engagement ring/ main stone?

i'm talking about the quality of the main diamond... i've seen over the years several docs about jewels and especially diamonds... and this diamond he picked isnt that good... i'm sorry i dont know explain better than that  :sorry:

still I do not think the queen & family are welcoming her

IMO this comment listed everything shows the real feelings of the Windsors:
You all know who is buried at Frogmore? Wallis. It just gets better and better, this is a gift that keeps on giving. Announcing the engagement out in the cold in a place called "The Sunken Garden", shooting official engagement photos at Wallis´ burial site, getting married at Henry VIII burial site with his broken casket in the valve underneath their feet, getting married on the day of Anne Boleyn´s beheading. Is this script being written by a jobless Hollywood writer for deliberate laughs?


When you put it like that and sum it up, it does seem ominous...
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my understanding is wallis and Anne Boleyn are more hated for the windsors than diana and fergie put together. as i said in another thread courtiers now must regret as they treated diana and fergie in 1980s. Kate and especially Meghan is their most obvious karmic payback.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 23, 2017, 11:53:08 pm
^ Ah I see, I thought you had sth entirely different in mind! :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 12:58:14 am
Harry is the one that is helping take down the monarchy by his stupidity in his choices. I am convinced if he had been raised in America he would be placed Inn special ed classes just to graduate high school, and I don't know if he would have  even cmade it to ollege here where they have a lot of programs help people like him.  He failed his classes in high school and not only that he failed his class to try and be an Apache helicopter pilot. This is a person that should be very protected because he does not have a lot of insight. I know this sounds harsh but I I think it is the truth. He's not a *fool* but he's obviously very thick and needs a lot of coaching on what to do on the level of being a prince for the British.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 24, 2017, 01:22:52 am
Meghan's heartache over the other love of her life: Ms Markle's beagle Guy receiving treatment from 'super vet' after breaking two legs

Meghan Markle has been left distraught after her beloved rescue dog Guy broke two legs.
The beagle – described as Meghan’s ‘absolute world’ – was injured shortly after Clarence House announced the actress’s engagement to Prince Harry.
Guy was flown to London earlier this year from Toronto where he lived with Meghan while she worked on television series Suits.
While it is not clear how the injuries occurred, The Mail on Sunday understands that the dog is receiving treatment from television ‘super vet’, Professor Noel Fitzpatrick, who is renowned for his bionic surgery techniques.
Prince Harry is said to have joined his anguished fiancee on visits to see Guy. The dog is believed to be receiving treatment at a facility in Surrey.


Last night, sources close to the couple said Meghan was ‘distraught’ and ‘very upset’ about Guy’s condition.
It is further turmoil for Meghan, who has already had to say goodbye to her labrador-shepherd cross called Bogart after he was deemed too old to fly to the UK.
Guy arrived to join his owner having gone through a lengthy checking process.
To secure permission to live in the UK, foreign pets must be microchipped, be given a rabies vaccination, and then have a blood test 30 days later.
In an interview earlier this month, Meghan revealed: ‘One [dog] is now staying with very close friends and my other, little Guy, he’s in the UK, he’s been here for a while.
‘I think he’s doing just fine.’
Meghan has previously described her dogs as ‘my boys’, and gushed that they ‘mean the absolute world’ to her.
During her time in Toronto, the animals repeatedly appeared on her Instagram page and were pictured snuggled up in bed with her.
Last night a spokesman for Kensington Palace declined to comment.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5209321/Meghan-Markle-distraught-rescue-dog-breaks-two-legs.html#ixzz528ZirCLJ
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 01:59:16 am
As an avid animal lover with 4 dogs of my own my sentiments are with her. I hope the dog's okay. As much as I think she is a mistake for Harry, I hope nobody thought that and took it out on the dog.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 24, 2017, 02:02:54 am
Poor puppy. I wonder what happened.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 24, 2017, 02:16:18 am
Sounds like a vehicle hit, poor thing.  It takes a lot to break two legs of a dog under normal living and playing conditions. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 24, 2017, 02:41:43 am
She's not getting much sympathy in the DM comments. In fact, there's an odd video of her looking like she's meditating by the water and the dogs are just wondering off without her noticing. I also found it odd that the dog's getting treatment in Surry. I'm sure that there are very fine expert vetinarians in London where she claims to be living with Harry. The whole article sounds odd and unbelievable. Her other dog's only 5 years old from what I've read, so the dog's not too old to travel. It's still debatable if this injured dog's actually in the UK. This woman lies too easily for my taste and I wouldn't be surprised if this article's put out by her to garner sympathy and deflect from the pictures and the Princess Micheal mess.
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In an interview earlier this month, Meghan revealed: ‘One [dog] is now staying with very close friends and my other, little Guy, he’s in the UK, he’s been here for a while.
‘I think he’s doing just fine.’
Meghan has previously described her dogs as ‘my boys’, and gushed that they ‘mean the absolute world’ to her.
During her time in Toronto, the animals repeatedly appeared on her Instagram page and were pictured snuggled up in bed with her.
Last night a spokesman for Kensington Palace declined to comment.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5209321/Meghan-Markle-distraught-rescue-dog-breaks-two-legs.html#ixzz528szIqnJ
IMO, this is bs because wouldn't she know if he's doing ok if the dog was with her in the UK.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 02:50:44 am
Well I have to admit it seems odd that this injury thing is coming out just now when it happened a few weeks ago right after the engagement announcement. So unless the dog had a bad turn from surgery it sounds like she's doing this for sympathy which is abhorable  if she is. In any event I hope the dog's okay.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 24, 2017, 03:23:01 am
This vet is pretty good at what he does he's the best of the best hopefully  guy gets better soon


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 24, 2017, 03:38:18 am
Here's how you could've saved £55,750 on that OTHER dress: LIZ JONES says Meghan should follow Kate's lead by ditching her Mayfair couturier for high street brands
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5209337/LIZ-JONES-says-Meghan-follow-Kates-fashion-lead.html
Waity's style got a bit better when she was forced not to wear her flimsy dresses that seemed to constanly blow up and expose her privates. Why go hughstreet when mehgan thinks she's wone the lottery with Harry. Couture all the way for her.  :cookie:

She went MIA after the Nottingham event and when she reappeared, she looked like she had some work one on her face. Her bags under her eyes are gone and her face and chin area appear longer; pointed and her face doesn't seem to move whick could be botox. She might've gone back to Toronto or the USA t have her face done. I doubt she's worring about her dog. IMO, the article's put out now to try and garner sympathy which isn't working. The dog's most likely not in the UK. Who knows what's what with this liar.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 03:44:44 am
Well if she had actual surgery it would taking a longer to recuperate but not from Botox or some of these other procedures. She is 36 so she has to start doing that stuff if she has not aged well naturally. I just hope the dog thing isn't for sympathy. And it is obviously but one thing if it's really true that the dog recently got really bad from the broken legs and another thing if it's just being released now to gather sympathy because of her atrocious fashion choices and for forcing princess Michael to give up her ridiculous brooch.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 24, 2017, 03:55:12 am
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@royalwhisper
8h8 hours ago
Replying to @alittlebitroyal @HeavenQRF
Big difference Kate had no real income, Kate lived off parents,prior to marriage. Meghan has worked, become quite wealthy and as a single woman made Millions. She had this dress for awhile before engagement. It's HER hard earned money.  #cueFauxoutrage.

Hypocrisy makes me bad, it's sad.  :sob: :angry:
So if Jessica gave the gift dress to Meghan or if Meghan's mother gave the earrings (lunch with Queen) ...... then Meghan could be criticized too?
Let's wait and see when Harry starts helping Doria, :bored:   if we will have criticism too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 24, 2017, 04:25:37 am

^^ The problem with Margaret was though that she wanted specifically to be buried with her father, and where her father was, there wasn't room for another coffin, so she decided to be cremated (a first and unusual for a Windsor) so she could fit.

When they build the chapel there was only ever room for six coffins and in 2002 Charles was unmarried. What having Margaret cremated meant was that there was an expectation or at least an anticipation as early as 2002 that Charles may remarry at some point in the future and by then  he had made it very clear that Camilla was 'non-negotiable'. So either they were anticipating Camilla's death and Charles finding someone else or they were expecting Charles to eventually marry Camilla - just not when. Otherwise they could have allowed Margaret the full coffin with the expectation that Charles would not have a Consort to share the space with him. They deliberately left the two spaces to allow Charles to remarry at some time in the future by insisting that Margaret be cremated or go into the Frogmore grounds.

Back to the topic - unless something dreadful happens to William, George, Charlotte and the new baby, Harry won't be buried inside St George's but down at Frogmore at the royal burial grounds there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 24, 2017, 04:29:56 am
^Off topic to both posters.  YM

Meghan Markle is in no way “worth millions”.  Practically 60%+ (and California soaks you) of her salary goes to agents, taxes, publicists, photographers, publicity and assistants.  Her gig on that c-list show didn’t haul in that much dough.  Her part wasn’t that large and the show was not a major hit by any means.   And if she was, why not a little public charity (none, I checked, nor private) or at home.  Baloney.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 24, 2017, 05:18:39 am
^exactly, she have not car or homeowners (example)


Meghan Markle has been left distraught after her beloved rescue dog Guy broke two legs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5209321/Meghan-Markle-distraught-rescue-dog-breaks-two-legs.html#ixzz528szIqnJ

 :o :nervous: :sob:

Hope he recovers soon  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 24, 2017, 05:35:55 am
Harry is the one that is helping take down the monarchy by his stupidity in his choices. I am convinced if he had been raised in America he would be placed Inn special ed classes just to graduate high school, and I don't know if he would have  even cmade it to ollege here where they have a lot of programs help people like him.  He failed his classes in high school and not only that he failed his class to try and be an Apache helicopter pilot. This is a person that should be very protected because he does not have a lot of insight. I know this sounds harsh but I I think it is the truth. He's not a *fool* but he's obviously very thick and needs a lot of coaching on what to do on the level of being a prince for the British.

It's quite untrue that Harry failed his lessons at Eton at all, nor in training to be a helicopter pilot. In fact he won an award during his training as was reported in several newspapers at the time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/5281926/Prince-Harry-wins-top-award-at-end-of-first-phase-of-helicopter-training.html

Being unacademic because of dyslexia which apparently went undiagnosed until he was in his mid teens doesn't make Harry stupid. And there are plenty of tradesmen and business entrepreneurs today who didn't do well at school, and didn't pass exams who today are doing very well for themselves and are far from stupid.

Nor is Harry, and in what particular public duty or engagement has he displayed stupid behaviour at all?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 24, 2017, 06:55:23 am
I agree with lesken. Harry wants to be normal and now he gets to experience that. The only difference is that men in US get to experience a manipulative, lead them by the nose uber ambitious and calculating woman in their teens and if they miss that window - in college. At Harry's age to have no common sense to see what's really happening is sad.

He maybe even thinks that he's helping Meghan's finances and sense of independence after being let go from Suits by allowing her to merch for thousands upon thousands but it's not his fault and not his problem that she can't book a role. You can't fix lack of talent with publicity.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 11:36:55 am
Harry is repeatedly made mistakes in his behavior ( Las Vegas, Nazi outfit,) and at one point wanted to leave the British Royal Family. I read that his advisers had to sit down and figure out a role for him to have so they invented charities for him so he can make his image better .He failed classes at Eaton and did not pass very many a level classes. In fact I think it's only one that I read.that he passed. And he flunked math trying to get his Apache pilot license so he could not get it. . These are things I've read maybe they're not true. It could be that he is dislexic and that is why but one can work through that.  He's a fun-loving bad boy. And now obviously he's getting little more mature but I don't think it's choice  of  a fiancee was very wise considering everything. And I don't think he is capable of seeing the consequences of what he does until after it is too late and it's been explained to him.. This is the way I see things. There is already conflict surrounding mm. Seems to me it's just going to continue and that is the type of stuff that gives the anti monarchist fuel. So I don't see that it's mm but Harry that is going to tarnish the reputation of the monarchy cuz it's his choice to bring her in it. And a year down the line I could be totally wrong and she could be wonderful on the best PR the monarchies had. That still is not going to give Harry brain cells. I do think mm is quite intelligent.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 24, 2017, 11:44:02 am
Harry IMO had no intention to leave the family, it was just "talk" though he should not have said it. It was one of those "how bad it is to be in a royal" talk. For one reason or another he wants to be "normal". But he was born to the heir to the heir so that takes care of that. I agree with Rosella, I think Harry had a learning disorder. He did manage to get to the front lines and liked Sandhurst and proudly graduated from it. If Meghan does well and toes the line then all will be well IMO, And maybe their future children will get to University. Harry also apologized for his mistakes. I think Harry is very sincere about Invictus and other serious causes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Byechoc on December 24, 2017, 11:45:19 am
What I think is that Diana must be rolling in her grave to see what she was able to create to her sons.
I believe that Kate and William will last until at least Carole is alive if not longer, don't see Kate leaving the BRF, she loves her lifestyle. But Meghan and Harry will not last.

We will see a fight between these two brother's wives, with a lot of leaks from both of them... Meghan will do everything to upstage them to show that Harry is the suitable for the Top Job, not William and Kate... And in the day that Carole and Kate start to understand this, we will see Kate doing more than ever!

Regarding the way that she is treated... Girls please... as Royal watchers you know that they think in 30 50 100 years in advance. They always put the monarchy first, not the individuals... They are doing this because they learned from Diana mistake... So know they will allow them to marry who they want, so in case if they want to divorce, they can say, but you were free to choose! But all this display with Meghan is for one reason... when the news broke about her and Harry came out and that statement came out, the BRF took notice... so they put MI6 taking note of everything... So since she is different than Kate, because Kate does not open her mouth now and she is not leaking since she loves her lifestyle. But Meghan is a social climber, will do everything that she can to be the star, and because they know that will not last... they will take the card that they treat me badly because I was mixed race, and American and an actress!!!

In this case, Diana helped the monarchy to survive, regarding all these attacks from people that they marry them, shame is that she was able to create Harry's disgrace because this will end up like Charles and Diana or even worse!!! (MARK MY WORDS)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 12:11:59 pm
Dotto Byechoc


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 24, 2017, 12:18:26 pm
I've always said that adults need to take responsibility for their own actions. That applies to Meghan and Harry who are not kids anymore. And whatever mistakes they make it is on them not anybody else. People in their thirties can't blame others at this point. It's all on them if they mess up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 12:24:12 pm
I meant Ditto Byechoc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 24, 2017, 12:41:51 pm
Oh, yes, she's already starting with trying to upstage Kate's engagement interview and engagement photos, and her "risk taking in fashion style" like Diana and unlike Kate. All these attempts backfired. She must be going gaga by now :Kate:
 
^^ Indeed. They are both adults, with Meghan being 3 years more adult than Harry. Still, "her feelings got hurt" from king Baltazaar on a brooch, and she got "distressed" over her doggy's broken legs. Let me ask you this - how does a dog break two of their legs unless they were neglected, didn't have a careful owner or the owner was absent, and not caring.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 24, 2017, 01:02:37 pm
^I've owned dogs, off and on, all my life and unless part of a building fell directly on the dog while everyone was asleep, the owner is the one responsible for this tragedy.  If the goal was to garner sympathy, it is an epic fail.  And if the story was used for that reason, unforgivable. 

And, amen, to if she's a big grown adult, you don't go around being upset and having "hurt feelings" over every little dang thing.  The hard knocks have only just begun, buttercup, because it ain't all 70+k USD ball gowns and egomaniac photo shoots.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 24, 2017, 01:17:13 pm
In the article it says the dog has been flown to the UK earlier this year.. So how long has he been then with Harry?? :-

Prince Harry 'will duck out of traditional royal Boxing Day shoot to make sure he doesn't upset Meghan'

    Prince Harry, 33, will not take part in his family's traditional Boxing Day shoot
    The five in line to the throne does not want to upset his fiancee Meghan Markle
    The US actress, 36, is a keen animal rights campaigner and doesn't like hunting


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5209945/Prince-Harry-miss-traditional-royal-Boxing-Day-shoot.html

 :looky: :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 24, 2017, 02:02:58 pm
Wasn't Harry on hunting trip shooting boar?  I think they will be on vacation after the whole Christmas walk / lunch they flying out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 24, 2017, 02:36:43 pm
^Yes.  As if he's never going to shoot a defenseless animal again in his whole life.   :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 24, 2017, 02:38:25 pm
^Off topic to both posters.  YM

Meghan Markle is in no way “worth millions”.  Practically 60%+ (and California soaks you) of her salary goes to agents, taxes, publicists, photographers, publicity and assistants.  Her gig on that c-list show didn’t haul in that much dough.  Her part wasn’t that large and the show was not a major hit by any means.   And if she was, why not a little public charity (none, I checked, nor private) or at home.  Baloney.

Cheers! The downright exaggeration of this ninny’s job, accomplishments, “charity work,” and worth (monetarily and in regards to the royal family) is gross and annoying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: logically on December 24, 2017, 02:53:56 pm
^  Just like the Midds moneys were/are still exaggerated and still are so that we don't see how the gullible boys are supporting and spending on these women.   mistakes we point out about Sparkles - looking for camera, questionable dress sense, walking ahead or delaying the departure by lingering socking up the adoration - Kate wsa accused of all this too and she had years of stalking/dating to pick of the clues.  They are still working on her.  Sparkles is an actress she might learn faster if she wants to keep the gig.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: cate1949 on December 24, 2017, 03:33:15 pm
oh Markle has an end date - will be a lovely present for the new year.

Merry Christmas to all!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 24, 2017, 03:33:23 pm
In the article it says the dog has been flown to the UK earlier this year.. So how long has he been then with Harry?? :-

Prince Harry 'will duck out of traditional royal Boxing Day shoot to make sure he doesn't upset Meghan'

    Prince Harry, 33, will not take part in his family's traditional Boxing Day shoot
    The five in line to the throne does not want to upset his fiancee Meghan Markle
    The US actress, 36, is a keen animal rights campaigner and doesn't like hunting


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5209945/Prince-Harry-miss-traditional-royal-Boxing-Day-shoot.html

 :looky: :rolleyes:

I'm very skeptical about this story


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 03:35:18 pm
I am happy to say that she stood ground and got him to not shoot on boxing day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 24, 2017, 03:56:33 pm
I've always said that adults need to take responsibility for their own actions. That applies to Meghan and Harry who are not kids anymore. And whatever mistakes they make it is on them not anybody else. People in their thirties can't blame others at this point. It's all on them if they mess up.
agree

oh Markle has an end date - will be a lovely present for the new year.

Merry Christmas to all!
I Cate  :hi:

Merry Christmas to all  :flower:  too!


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 24, 2017, 05:17:53 pm
Isn't he supposed to do a radio show on Christmas day that he guest edited? His interview with Obama airs on December 27th. How are people going to take him seriously as he's involved with this trouble maker? 
An expiration date for this crap couldn't come soon enough.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 24, 2017, 05:21:04 pm
I had a feeling meg would have a different looking face when she showed up after Nottingham, and it does,  around the nose esp.

I wonder what happened to that poor dog  :sob:
so harry isnt going hunting now eh....... :baby:
he must know by now his party is over, he has to live as a man mat for meagain to walk all over  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 24, 2017, 05:26:55 pm
Harry already went on a shooting trip with aristro friends after the so called engagement, so this chick isn't convincing him to stop anything. Maybe it's good that people see her as a pushy upstart narc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 24, 2017, 05:38:19 pm
I'll just put this in this thread as posters mentioned it here.

It's about MM's dog, Guy.

A friend of mine came back from holiday only to find her dog had a broken leg from the kennels it was housed in. No satisfactory explanation was given in this case. (No, she's not going back there). But I cannot imagine this happening here.

On another gossip site, it was suggested that the 'furore' surrounding PM's brooch, which I thought represented one of the 3 Wise Men, was not being played out in the MSM to MM's advantage, hence the story of two broken legs of her dog Guy.

Whether or not it's true, I do think it's a measure of how much some folks distrust her and her motives that even this story is being disbelieved or believed.

I don't believe it's true, especially the part about getting a vet so far from where she was living.

Wouldn't a small animal go into medical shock if this were to happen to them? Would time  therefore not be of the essence so that the poor thing would survive? In which case, any vet would do.

Not having a pet, I've no idea if this is true. (About an animal going into shock).






Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 24, 2017, 05:57:58 pm
Meghan Markle 'distraught' after beloved dog 'breaks two legs'
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Ms Markle was described this weekend as having a "feeling of zen" around her by broadcaster Tom Bradby, a former Royal correspondent and friend of Prince Harry.
He told the Sunday Times: "It's a great story at a time when the whole country is wrestling with issues of diversity. "The idea that Harry is marrying a strong, mixed -race campaigner for human rights …"
Asked if he has met her, Bradby added: "I have. She's incredibly likeable and warm.
I'm sure she's got her flaws, like all of us, but it's difficult to see what they are.
"She's got a feeling of zen around her, and if you look at Harry over the past year and a half, he's really calmed down.  "The only thing he gets exercised about now is protecting her from the media."
Asked whether there might be concern among other members of the Royal Family that Ms Markle will claim their spotlight, Bradby said: "There are bound to be tensions — there just will be, but they'll probably be between the generations.
"I think Kate and William are a bit absorbed in having young children and keeping the work show on the road.
"There are always tensions about money and who's going to do what and I'm sure they'll go on. They won't necessarily get any better or worse."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/24/meghan-markle-distraught-beloved-dog-breaks-two-legs/
WTF. This is a very odd interview, imo. Feeling o zen around her? Really? Harry stressed as he's trying to protect her from the press? Uh? Bizzare.  ???
It's a bit too convienent that harry's involved with a mix-raced chick as the whole country's dealing with issues of diversity. The royal family is seen as pure white and now having this woman in the mix, is now seen as a bit more accepting and intouch with the changing face of britain. It's also too convient that this woman's not suitable to be a wife and a repsentatie of the royal family abd Britain as she's not a citizen, a divorcee, liar, cheat, manipulator and uses the race card when thigs don't go her way; she bullies people with the race card. Time for this chick to push off back to where she came from now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 07:17:02 pm
Going to have to say something which I'm sure people not like hearing or maybe they will. I got to give mm credit she's only been engaged one month. And within a month she got the queen to break her Christmas rules for Sandringham. She got princess Michael to give up the brooch. And she got Harry to stop doing Boxing Day shoot for the first time. That's pretty good for a month of being engaged. If this keeps up maybe she will reshape that monarchy and only the MI6 can stop her. Because I'm so glad she got Harry to not shoot I'm going to cut her some slack in my mind. Maybe she will be a good thing. And again she may be nothing but scandalous. I think she's going to be a bit of both has she already has been. And the royal family should get her PR people because they are far better than theirs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 24, 2017, 08:17:03 pm
I smell product placement with the dog story. Why would she go to a different city to the vet if there are vets in London and the Queen's corgis vet is surely coming for home visits. This story is also a not so good attempt at rallying for people's sympathy to make up for the ignorance she showed about Baltazaar and about the Christian religion she supposedly has.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 24, 2017, 09:17:55 pm
Well the dog  story is strange considering it's two weeks since the dogs been injured and why now talk about it what's up with that? Also the fact that nobody knows how this happened is also kind of strange I would think they would put it down that the dog jumped off a rock or was hit by a car or somebody hurt the dog. But I doubt anybody hurt the dog deliberately or there'd be a whole bunch of press about that. So her PR team put out this whole dog thing to make people not so mad that she forced princess Michael to retire her brooch. Kind of good that she's forcing Prince Harry not to kill birds. I imagine his hunting friends are not going to be happy about this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 24, 2017, 09:31:20 pm
As much as I abhor hunting under most conditions, forcing people to change is never a good idea nor a loving one.  It’s emotional blackmail, rarely genuine and breeds resentment over time. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 24, 2017, 09:42:54 pm
^ That's what I thought too. I wouldn't join in a hunt either (can't say I wouldn't eat game though :shy: ), but you can't make your partner change or give up what they like doing. I don't get shooting as a hobby either, and yet people go to shooting ranges and even have international tournaments. It's nice if he does it so she's not on her own her first boxing day, but realistically those couple of hours she could rest, go for a walk or join other family members in their activities, I doubt everyone's off shooting and no one will have her do with them whatever else they do. It's also not like the shoot takes up all day. So far, he's taken in her dog (since beginning of this year??), supposedly given up smoking (didn't he give up smoking a couple of years ago?) and given up the boxing day shoot. PM had to give up her brooch and Liz had to open the doors to a finace. Don't think she's going to win any popularity contest in the family and H has had to adjust quite a bit if the previously said is all correct.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 24, 2017, 11:07:53 pm
So long as the animal is not endangered or can be used for food I don’t really care about sport hunting. However, I do agree that getting your partner to give up ABC or do XYZ for your beliefs is not okay or good. And personally, I’ve never understood the use of the pride that some people take in doing that. What’s the point? The other person should do it because they feel the urgency, the want, the need. Not because I berated, whined, and/or guilted him or her into submission.

Hunting isn’t something that Harry does once in a while. He does it a lot and he does it with his family and friends and always has. The camaraderie that comes along with that. Not something to take lightly to give up for the wrong reasons. I’d be highly surprised (if this article is even true) that he’d be able to give it up for the long term and as Yooper said it just breeds resentment.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 24, 2017, 11:23:21 pm
Maybe he didn't watch carefully enough for her dog and now he's grounded to stay indoors while the others are having fun  lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Little light on December 24, 2017, 11:31:20 pm
It remains to be see  whether Harry give she up the Boxing Day shoot.

Wasn't he happy to go wild boar hunting just after he got engaged? I don't know off i beleive this story. (And I love eating game too, BTW).


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 25, 2017, 12:39:08 am
Right that people should not d make people give up things but I  did force my husband to give up smoking because I could not stand it. I have no regrets about that he's no longer alive. And recently I went out on a date for second date with an old high-school friend who proceeded to tell me how he hunts and loves hunting and eating zebra. Since he knew I don't eat meat and I was very strong about not having a restaurant that is just a meat place, I was surprised he was talking about that. I was polite and pointed out that I didn't agree with it. The next time he asked me out I wrote him a text explaining that I do not date Hunters nor do I know them as friends nor does anybody in my family do that. That was the right thing to do. He did not offer to give up hunting in order to pursue me. But if it was this magical thing and he wanted to pursue me he would have to give up Hunting. I have no problem forcing my beliefs on somebody else if they want to be with me. I also have no problem remaining single. And if it came to it I doubt Meghan would let Harry go over hunting. But she has a hold over him and it in their chart comparison. If anyone is interested her Pluto conjuncts his Venus and that signifies the devouring mother or devouring girlfriend. It also means Transcendence through the partner after you are devoured. I always find astrology so on point. Anyways yes she is controlling him and forcing it to do things and at some point he's not going to let her I know that but it may take many years. In the meantime I am for one happy that jerk stops hunting at least one time. I understand that it's the history of the family to kill animals but they need to change that it's just so gross and I'm fair to these wild birds and deer and even the boars that want to live in the wild. Eat farm-raised which is mean too but there is something about an animal running free or flying free and jerk off Royal shooting them. It goes for the non Royals as well. Just my opinion. The real point is Harry is under her spell and she is controlling him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 25, 2017, 09:03:41 am
With regard to Harry being controlled by Meghan in some way through the Pluto/Venus conjunction yes, that combination of the two planets mentioned certainly can have that quality. However it's important to remember the outer planets like Pluto move so slowly that an entire generation of people can have Pluto/Venus conjunctions in each other's charts. It certainly needn't signify earth-shattering power struggles between a couple or holds over someone of a cataclysmic kind.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 25, 2017, 03:24:00 pm
 If that was their only conjunction you're right but they happen to each have Venus Square Mars on each other's charts which signifies a really strong sexual connection Plus her Chiron conjunct his Moon his Chiron sextile her moon . That is a very fated feeling relationship and one that has to bring out hidden wounds to be healed. In addition they have their descendants in each other's charts. So that gives a very strong attraction but when you top those aspects her  Pluto conjunct in his Venus and a few other things in the chart you're going to get a very strong hold of her over him at least in the love relationship. It seems to be true. William and Kate have their moon /sun in marriage aspect in addition to the Venus Mars attraction aspects.  So I still stand by astrology seems to be pretty true from my studies. Merry Christmas everyone hope you had a great day. Mine is just starting.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Alexandrine on December 25, 2017, 03:34:02 pm
I would be grateful if the astrology discussion would be limoted to the royal prediction thread.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 25, 2017, 03:53:50 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/nintchdbpict000374804964.jpg?strip=all&w=960
I never thought I'd see trash like this brought into the family by Harry. IMO, since the race acrd always seem to come up when it comes to her, it seems like the royal family's bending over backwards to be nice to her and break rules just for her. It's nauseating to watch, but I think this is to somehow to change the view of the commonwealth countries who look at the royal family as being colonialist as there was a movement last year with #notmyprince around the time Harry was to tour the Caribbean.  Since the press and other sources keep saying that she's done nasty stuff in her past that will come out, she'll have to be gotten rid of or Harry will have to step down. Funny how he still looks miserable around her and can't wait to get rid of her so he can hang with his family. At least when this ges belly up, hopefully without a marriage, no one can accuse the roal family of being horrible to her. It still seem like the press and Harry's playing a pr game to change the narrative f the royal family on the world stage because why does Harry still look horrible if he's now with the woman he claims to love. he looks like he wants to throw up as sh constanly clings onto him.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 25, 2017, 03:59:56 pm
Will do Alexandrine. Thanks for directing me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 26, 2017, 01:03:43 am
@windsor2: I wouldn't go that far and describe her as trash, attention-seeking, sure (i.e. the Vogue Mag interview).

As I keep posting on here, she thinks it's about her and its not, the press is only focusing on her because she is a story to make money; the press will write about them whether it's bad or good.

Meghan seemed to tone it down during the Christmas Church walk today or she was putting on an act. She made sure to carry her gloves in order to show "the precious," but when they left she put on the gloves.  :sly:

I liked her head-to-toe brown look but she needs a different style of coat that doesn't look as if she is going shopping. None of the other ladies: Beatrice, Eugenie, Sophie, Kate, Autumn or Anne were wearing a wrap trench coat. If the hat was pulled further back on her head it would look better. Someone noted in the DM that it looked liked someone had pooped on her head.  :laugh:

I dislike that the photogs got a pic of her with her tongue out, but I think she was trying to moisten her lips; wear better lip balm next time, because "tongue-gate" is now a story on the DM.  :tehe:

And what was up with Harry? Hungover? He didn't crack a smile when looking at her, only at the crowd.  :- And wasn't it strange that he was talking to Megs by the stairs and she didn't even look at him, she kept her face forward for the cameras (attention-seeking) or talking to William and Kate. Trouble in paradise?  :dontknow:





Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 01:42:35 am
It looked like she was dressing "retro" with that hat reminding me of something the Queen Mum wore in the 1940s. She's trying to dress "royal" IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 03:16:33 am
The only good thing that came out of today's activities is that Meghan and her supporters can't use the race car anymore. The bad thing's that Harry might end up married to her and sent off to the carriibean as he's the popular spare who, up until Meghan can to be linked to him, outshined Wills. Now he looks like the sad case whose chosen to take up with a foreign attention seeking/loving globalist who can't seem to shut up, leaks info to the media as well as march what she's wearing thereby making the monarchy a complete joke. I don't believe her dirty past will be made to light even though the DM has been heavily hinting at what she has gotten up to on her social climb. IMO, I see Harry being easily sidelined as Wills/Waity and he kids being pushed forward and held up as what the monarchy is and not what Harry and Meghan bring to the table. I felt bad for Harry today simply because it looks like he's a very sad man having to end up with something like Meghan and seeing his reputation and people's respect for him go down the drain each time this freak show continues on in public.
I really hope to be proved wrong because the DM hasn't been told off or sued by Harry or Meghan for defermation of character especially after basically saying she's a SoHo House house girl and is deep in with Markus who seems never far from her side. It's best for the royal family for Harry to shine as before although he makes mistakes because it shows his human and people can relate. IMO, the DM keeps stroking the fire and those hint in articles couldn't just come out from thin air.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 04:19:49 am
I did not like the coat or the hat of Megan at all but I also can say I didn't like the coat of Waity this time and usually I like her taste in coats. Her
r hat was okay. I can't see them sending Harry away cos of MM. If he wants to go somewhere else they may let him ifMM becomes too much.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 04:33:47 am
She's become too much since last year when this bizarre relationship got outed with her juvenile spooning bananas and hasn't gotten any better. His image and reputation has taken a big hit because he presented himself to be a kind, honest caring guy who's dismissed attention seeking users like Meghan only to end up with a clingy immature imbecile like her who people are really upset with. Other sites than the DM are making fun of how unsuitable she is. The American late night tv show host really went after her.; Jimmy Fallon. Since the monarchy needs the will of the people and she's getting racked over the coals, people are asking why we have to pay for this joke and what's the point of the monarchy if someone like her's getting in and the disappointment Harry is for choosing someone who's only about herself.
She looked star struck when she saw the queen and had Harry tell her to curtsy. It was also funny how Wills basically ignored her no matter how many times she tried to get his attention.  He'll have to be sent away the longer this goes on because it's a waste of time investing in a train wreck like this when the work and resources should go towards Wills and Waity because they're the future king and queen consort and God knows they're not the best either for their roles but they're married and their marriage counts constitutionally whereas Harry's won't.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 04:56:01 am
This whole thing is ridiculous but it is happening. someone needs to give her some fashion lessons for being in that family but maybe nobody cares except us.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 26, 2017, 05:54:49 am
I still can't get over Harry's lack of happiness in the video on the DM. Even Wills is smiling and talking as they make their way down the steps before the Queen gets in the car.

Before they descend the stairs, Harry leaned past Megs to talk to Kate and Kate was trying to ignore him because she wanted to smile for the cameras.

 :laugh: just awkwardness all around  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 06:09:06 am
 Maybe Harry is upset that he can't shoot all those birds


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 26, 2017, 06:37:40 am
I still can't get over Harry's lack of happiness in the video on the DM. Even Wills is smiling and talking as they make their way down the steps before the Queen gets in the car.

Before they descend the stairs, Harry leaned past Megs to talk to Kate and Kate was trying to ignore him because she wanted to smile for the cameras.

 :laugh: just awkwardness all around  :cookie:

I’m actually very struck by his lack of happiness overall. For instance, there are people (the ones who want Murky to be a thing, really) keep saying that there’s so much chemistry, they’re so in love, Harry’s so smitten. Yadda yadda ya. I’m just like, where? Seriously. There’s never any bit of enthusiasm on Harry’s face when he’s in her presence. And it’s always been that way. You’d think there would be more consistent big smiles and sparkling eyes, some giddiness maybe, looks of pure love, something. But no. There’s only Murky’s fake shy demure looks and clinginess, while Harry always looks like he’s trying to politely extricate himself from her clutches. At this point I’m inclined to believe that this is a highly truncated William and Kate situation. He’s spent his youth wiling away any good options, didn’t at least strike when the iron was hot with Cressida, and now he’s over thirty and just settling for who so happens to be there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 07:45:33 am
I doubt Harry will leave the country he does not have to give up his place in line of succession for Meghan. I think Harry will be part of the scaled down monarchy. She'll have to pull her weight.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 26, 2017, 10:08:12 am
Harry had his Christmas Pout on, that’s for sure.  Even in the videos.  Kinda doubt it’s a hangover as some suggested elsewhere in the media.  Sparkles Buzzkillington has taken care of ridding Harry of any and all personal choices. 

But, one thing did occur to me.  It could be possible that our dear ol’ Harry may be overly sensitive to any negative reactions to Mahvelous Meg.  In his “brain” and love-blind eyes he believed the whole world would be as awestruck as he and he could bask in her brilliance while showing her amazingness off. 

Didn’t really happen so far and he cannot use the “they dislike her because she’s black” nonsense.  No.  It’s everything else about her from her really phony overwhelmed and timid act (and it is!) to her underwhelming presence.  I don’t kid myself that he doesn’t read or hear what his friends, colleagues, people say.  Even one tiny jab against her shatters his fragile fantasy and it shows.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 11:41:28 am
Not everybody in the public dislikes the woman. Harry should be used to this especially since the negative blogs started disputing whether or not they really dated--and she was airbrushed in. He's in love with her and does not care if "the public" (or some of them) criticizes her.  She should also expect criticism after the wedding too, that is par for the course.

I don't think Harry takes gossip sites seriously besides which he also has been the target of criticism for many many years. He must have a tough skin by now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 12:17:43 pm
^He'd have to be really dumb though to believe that a charlaton that he picked up from the SoHo House would be a good choice for him. He never treated her like he wanted to be astound her. Since he's been linked to her, his health, image and reputation has taken a nose dive and will only continue to do so. It's coming to a point for mne to want him to get lost with his loser fiancé because nothing good will come out of this. The royal family on a whole needs to just be abolished because the rose has certainly come off the bloom the more Meghan's attached to them and the more they show that they're not worth the trouble as they're getting more common in their bad choices and lack of work to be bothered supporting them. It's really amazing and cringeworthy to see how unbalanced and weird she is. I've never seen anyone hang onto someone like she did with Harry never allowing him to breath and get space.
The negative comments will continue because it's very clear to see she's so wrong to be anywhere near marrying into the royal family. She might've been high and or drunk for the need to cling on to Harry like that; like she needed his support otherwise she'd lose her balance. Wills/Waity and the other royals basically seemed to ignore her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 26, 2017, 01:22:37 pm
^ He IS dumb!!

What  surprises me above all else is the way the press is going after her and really outing some bad things eg Soho connection so they know they won't be reigned in or sued.

Sparkles Xmas outfit reminds me of this without the feather on PD's hat
https://goo.gl/images/982yHU


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 02:13:19 pm
YM it's a good point about Harry. He's getting criticism whether it be overt or subtle from his family friends and advisors I'm sure. But he seemed  this way in Jamaica with Megan and they went ahead and dated and got engaged. So I don't know if it indicates that he's unhappy with her or he's unhappy with something or he's just always like this and we didn't realize it before. I mean I only have seen Harry really happy when he's been photographed partying.. They all seem to be very deadpan so it may just be the way they're trained to be out in public smile but look not so happy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 26, 2017, 02:19:07 pm
^I'd agree with the "that's just moody Harry" because, yes, he is.  This time, however, it's a case of "what's wrong with this picture?"  It's Christmas, he's with the Love Of His Life, she's allowed to walk with the royals, there are people in wheel chairs wheeled in for this blasted thing, appallingly, and his grandmother and grandfather who are super old are there, soooo, the math says, "Smile, be giddy, happy, this is special!"

Doesn't add up for me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 02:29:49 pm
He may be into Megan now but he also might sense something's wrong or something is wrong we just don't know what it is it could be anything.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 26, 2017, 02:49:48 pm
^ Maybe the reason fir Harry's mood is what was alluded to on another Harry/Sparkles thread under MO


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 03:29:16 pm
Just looked at the video from the Christmas walk. I actually don't think Harry look that upset. Meghan was clinging on to him and alternatively looking demure and smiling. And at one point when he was trying to talk to her she completely ignored him and was trying to say something to William who seem to ignore her but I don't know who was standing next to William and if that was somebody like the pastor that they needed to say something to. After that moment Harry looked a bit upset or Moody but I didn't see him really looking that overall unhappy as opposed to any other Christmas walk that I've seen him in. It is morning they're in church mode and maybe they just don't feel that all happy. I still say her outfit was not well thought-out.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Cali San D on December 26, 2017, 03:34:33 pm
@YM: I thought it too that Harry must be upset with the press/public with their criticism of Megs, especially about that extremely expensive gown she wore in the engagement photos. He is not looking at the fact that she has brought the criticism on herself.

Posters at Meghan Markle Review swear up and down that she was nervous during the Christmas walkabout, thus the "clinging" onto Harry's arm. I don't think Megs was nervous, she was acting nervous, she's an actress!  :Kate:

She held onto his arm with gloves off because she wanted show off her precious ring. If not, then she should've worn the gloves and held Harry's hand, like Kate and Wills. By now everyone knows what the rings looks like, sheesh.  :snob:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 03:37:47 pm
@Marion what thread is that MO I can't find it.Thanks


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 26, 2017, 03:41:52 pm
Moody Harry is Meghan problem now .she already knows how to deal with him rub his back


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 26, 2017, 03:47:01 pm
^Wrong side there, Fly.   lol


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 04:17:26 pm
@Fly on the wall. Excuse my crudeness but his back is not the main thing she's rubbing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 04:23:03 pm
How I got the shot of the 'fab four' they all wanted... and I hope it will pay for my girl to go to university: Fan tells how she scooped the world's photographers to get the best snap of Meghan and Kate
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5212441/Mum-hopes-royal-picture-pay-university.html
Ok, my American friends, doesn't this look like they going to see the wonder wizard of Oz? Fab 4 my foot.
Wills has always been described as the difficult one and Harry the peace maker. Wills and Waity need to be seen as the future stability of the monarchy, this now we have stories/ assumptions that Harry's the diva throwing tantrums like a 5 year old because no one likes his SoHo strumpet. IMO, all I really see since this woman came onto the scene is to distract from the ticking time bomb regarding Waity/Wills (MOB) and to build them up as they were seen as cold and distant prior to Harry being linked to her. Harry's done dumb things like Vegas, but that's understandable compared to him really wanting to marry this woman and be complicit in all the merch, using and discord she brings.
^it'd be dangerous for him to have her rub anything else on him. The discord with them is he talks about youth empowerment, leadership and Aids awareness but is engaged to a woman who uses sex as a climbing tool on her way up the social ladder.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 04:40:24 pm
Harry IMO got what he wanted. No reason to throw a tantrum.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 05:32:36 pm
Will Harry and Meghan's wedding invite to the Obamas sour the Special Relationship with Trump? Fears the royal couple will snub the new President in favour of the predecessor he hates
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One source told The Sun: 'Harry has made it clear he wants the Obamas at the wedding, so it’s causing a lot of nervousness.

'Trump could react very badly if the Obamas get to a Royal wedding before he has had a chance to meet the Queen.

'Conversations are ongoing about and ministers will eventually have to decide. If the PM lays down the law, Harry will just have to suck it up.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5212609/Whitehall-fears-Trump-backlash-Obama-wedding-invite.html
Political row now. Trump could care less about this wedding because Meghan already voiced her displeasure towards Trump. This is one instance where I hope that Trump calls out what a loser she is and ask Harry what's he doing with someone like her during one of his twitter rants.
This whole article could be bs, but this couple seem to bring out the bad side of people.
It's getting harder to think of what the end game is with this. Marriage would be a disaster for them and the image of the royal family and brand Harry a hypocrite and untrustworthy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 26, 2017, 05:55:00 pm
Trump was never going get a invite .no mater who the US president was would have never get an invite to harry's wedding, but whatever sales


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 06:02:32 pm
The royals should not get political that way. The PM deals with Trump. But I do think a U.S. rep will attend. I don't think Harry and Meghan will be involved in controversy about Trump nor should they


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 26, 2017, 06:34:59 pm
^^^Yeah, there was no chance he was getting an invite but you won't be able to tell him that. If the Obama's do get an invite and he does not, that Twitter meltdown will be a minimum 3 tweets long. He had no problem dragging Kate about the balcony pics so, in his mind, Meghan & Harry will be fair game.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 07:21:49 pm
Well Obama didn't get invited to Wills because as only third in line so it wasn't a State affair. Neither is this. Now Obama is buddies with Harry and mixed race as well so he must be buddies now with MM as they have that in common as well as being news worthy liberal Americans. I am sure they are buddies as well.  So I'd be very surprised if the Obamas are not invited as friends. Trump is no friend of Harry's nor of anyone I know in the BRF so he is not getting invited. If he did, people would protest I imagine. So this is a done deal IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 26, 2017, 07:27:09 pm
^It's a common misconception that all black people know each other and all mixed race people like each other cause they have something in common.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 26, 2017, 07:33:43 pm
^^^very true, so the see's set that there's discourse in Parliament over this wedding and the possibility of Trump being passed over, so better to have the wedding postponed/moved to 2019 then to avoid issues with him. If it stays on course, then the invites will go out after Trump's visit to the U.K. in February.
I've been reading about the diversity situation in Britain and I do believe that this is an exercise to get the royals seen as inclusive by the rushed engagement, and all the rule breaking to make her seem accepted. IMO, it's stupid to even go this route even if people only see the British royal family as lilly white. It's dumb because idiot Meghan's still being used to push this stupid addenda. The diversity issue facing Britain and the royal family will only get better with qualified people of colour applying for jobs that make a difference in shaping how the royal family's viewed and not this extremely out of the blue odd relationship between Harry and a very unsuitable user who uses being part black when she feels she's being victimized. Also, just real genuine friendships and romances with people just seen as being people without issues of colour would also halt this lack of diversity stuff because it's based on colour and gender instead of more important things. Anyway, Meghan being what she is will only keep opening up divisions in that as an American, she shouldn't have to curtsy, as a black woman, why does she have to walk behind senior members of the royal family and so on and so forth. Better to end this farce with her murky background exposed now than to continue on this pr game, imo because it's not really working out and won't benefit the royal family in the long run. I hope this makes sense.
^yrue, and I'd doubt that the Obama's would like what Meghan does by using the race card and use and dump people without thought. Not to get political but I know that people say Batak has done the same, but she's in a league of her own and is only for herself and what she can get from people.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 26, 2017, 07:37:27 pm
^^^ They may be buddies (H & Michelle I think are the ones who really get along), and even though the Obamas are not in any kind of office, it would be too political to invite them. And with Markles's known political views (and in extent also now known H's political views as published earlier) it would be very very bad PR and would undermine one of the top rules of any RF: stay out of politics and appear to be neutral.
With the hideous and fugly dress from the engagement they haven't started off on a good foot and they better think twice from now on (which they should have to begin with, but Windsors aren't known to be blessed with brain and Murkles certainly isn't understanding at all what she's getting herself into).

Don't think Trump would be invited, as this wedding is "small" and not really a state affair. Therefore, no president or head of state is expected or should be invited. Don't think Trump really cares anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 07:46:03 pm
MEghan's engagement gown is but a drop in the bucket IMO anyway. What counts is how she'll do as a royal and earn her keep. She may have just borrowed the gown or purchased it at a deep discount The article in the DM did not say she paid all that money.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 26, 2017, 07:56:32 pm
If Harry invites an Obama, his popularity will drop even further.  O is quite popular with the celebrity Hollywood crowd -- Meggles' group -- but a polarizing figure throughout the rest of the country.  I would think he would not be popular amongst Brits after his finger wagging in their faces in a condescending manner.   No reason to invite Trump, I agree, but it would be dumb to invite an Obama as well.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 26, 2017, 08:57:18 pm
Ivanka Trump has already tried to sway her way into the royal wedding. I think that Harry will invite the Obamas since he is friendly with them and wants to be a celebrity while he's completely oblivious that he'll be sending a political message to the world.

The problem that Meghan will face is that there's no friends she hasn't backstabbed and the guests on her side will be invited by her publicist thus making the occasion more merching less personal.

It's interesting about the curtsy with a nod from Meghan today. Apparently Prince Philip on his way out the church ordered Harry to make Meghan curtsy. Harry did try to grab her attention to tell her what she needs to do - not nod but curtsy. However, she was busy making small talk to Kate and ignored him. Then, when the time of the curtsy came she did both - both curtsy and nod. Apparently Harry got pissed from the moment he was ordered his wanna be royal fiance to curtsy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 26, 2017, 09:18:11 pm
^^  :thumbsup:

^ Sadly, I think you're right re: possible Obama invitation.
Your last paragraph is interesting, first time I'm hearing this. I pretty much only watched the short vid of them on the steps, when they were going down and then the curtsy.
As far as I know, depending on the occasion, a head bob and curtsy must be done by a woman, but I read on curtsy etiquette a long while ago and might be totally off.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 09:29:21 pm
@Ariel I live and work in a mixed racial community. Of course I know not all people of One race or mixed races get along. Some actually commits crimes against each other
But but I do believe in their case being American public figures and both being half black and white that that is a bond between them in addition to other things. Both are Charming people so I'm sure they like each other on the inside, especially now that they have Harry in common. I would think Megan would have been tickled pink to meet Obama since she is a liberal Democrat. Normally he only hangs out with a list celebrities so she would not have really had many opportunities prior to being  with Harry. But I have no doubt he and she will be good friends along with Michelle. I'm just pointing out their background similarities. Background similarities are important in a lot of relationships and friendships so there is nothing wrong with saying that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 10:30:27 pm
Charles appeared to be smiling at Meghan...in a good way.

I so want Melania there instead of opportunistic Ivanka. First ladies should go.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 26, 2017, 11:04:14 pm
I am pretty sure that Trump will not be invited nor his family unless the First Lady made a splash with them in Canada. They don't know her and this is not a State affair so they are not obligated to invite them.  Charles and Diana's wedding was considered a State affair. I don't know if that is because he is first in line to the throne or he is the Prince of Wales which I thought is the highest honor next to being the Monarch. Well again, I know the Obamas were not invited to Wills and Kate as it was not a State affair and they were not good friends at that point.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 26, 2017, 11:06:50 pm
Ivanka is a First Lady (not political like some predecessors) and she could bring her son Barron. Or possibly another rep. (ambassador?)


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 26, 2017, 11:24:36 pm
Let's watch the political talk and speculation, please, as Alexandrine already requested.  Thank you. YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 27, 2017, 02:11:03 am
I know Barak's interview was done in September, but It seems that Harry will be live on the radio at 6:00am GMT, 27 December.
https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/945723679140450306
https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/945618404140044288
The royal family's getting riped in the comments and a video wondering what's the point of them. Harry with this engagement hasn't done anything to change people's minds that the royal family's an institution that they could do without. IMO, if they worked on things like the Prince's Trust instead of floundering around with no focus like Wills seems to do, then I don't think that they'd be viewed so harshly as a waste of time and money supporting whilst millions goe without the basics.

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Don't forget Prince Harry is our guest editor tomorrow.
Tune in bright and early from 6am
http://bbc.in/2kyRh96  #r4today
It'll be interesting what he says about this fiasco with Megan and what he thinks of the criticism and the dislike of this engagement to her if he's indeed live as it's indicated here. It just might be a package of stuff he helped edited over the last couple of months. It's hard to take him seriously regarding conservation and mental illnes now though seeing his recent hunting trip and his fiancé seeming quite delusional and needy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rebecca on December 27, 2017, 03:41:28 am
I really am at a loss to understand the need for the constant Obama's/Harry stuff so often. It is really sickening, IMO. And they are supposed to be apolitical.... :laugh:  :stop:  That relationship tells me all I need to know about Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2017, 05:30:53 am
I'm sorry Yooper, I'll make one last comment on the political side.

@lesken, I'm sorry if my comment about black and mixed race people can be taken as offensive in any way. What I wanted to say is that same political views, same racial background is not enough for the Obamas to like Meghan, especially for Michelle if her strong opinions about morale are true and I believe they are.

Going back to the conversation, Harry needs to e very careful not to cause political scandals with this romance.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 27, 2017, 12:08:55 pm
What an insult this is to her mother, saying his is the family she ,(Meghan)  never had. Her mother may not be wealthy but that's not what counts. Harry's family are nothing to be proud of

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5214723/Prince-Harry-said-Meghan-Markle-fantastic-Christmas.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 27, 2017, 12:19:56 pm
That is a really thoughtless thing to say. Wow.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 27, 2017, 12:20:17 pm
^ We haven't heard the whole interview, just a couple of sentences in the DM. In my opinion Harry meant a very large, noisy, rumbunctious Christmas get-together by a large extended family, something Meghan's not used to. He mentioned them having lots of fun running around with the kids. I don't believe Harry was insulting Doria (whom it seems he gets on very well with,) nor do I believe that she will be insulted, just that having Xmas activities in a big old country house with lots of extended family members around was something new and fun for Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 27, 2017, 12:23:24 pm
^^^ Also a slap in the face of his own mother too. "The family she never had" is such an exaggeration. Is she an orphan who was through the foster system and has no family left? Come on. What the Dickens! :stop:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 27, 2017, 12:34:15 pm
I think just like the engagement interview he's painting a false picture. She was ignored by him and his family from what was seen during the Christmas church event and most likely dropped off to London. What strikes me odd is that he talks about the negativity of the internet but has a fiancé that's so divisive amongst people that sparks people to comment the truth about her and the whole odd situation that could be deemed negative. Doesn't Harry and his advisers not see that this is counterintuitive to what he said regarding the young people using social media for good? Wouldn't it have made sense for this woman to have been dismissed a long time ago instead of the mess that we have now and Harry looking lost, haggard and irritated being attached to her still? His reputation still takes a hit as Wills seems to be building up on this false pretense though which won't last no matter how far this idiotic engagement goes along. Oh, didn't the press post pictures of Meghan with her mum's siblings enjoying Christmas, so his comment was odd, but hey, this just goes along with the whole situation in general.
IMO, I guess he's deliberately ruining his reputation to have Wills built up. Shame as it's so wrong and people see that something's really off. This will definitely impact his charities in a big way as Harry's press will continue to be negative as his attached to that user, loser woman.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 27, 2017, 01:55:03 pm
Prince Harry banned 'blood diamonds' in Meghan Markle's engagement ring


Prince Harry chose the centre diamond from Botswana, and ensured it was ethically-sourced
He chose the band’s “centre diamond” from Botswana, with two surrounding diamonds from Princess Diana’s personal jewellery collection.

Blood diamonds are gems mined in a war zone or used to finance conflicts.

A royal source said the Prince had demanded that the jewel from Botswana was ethically-sourced as his bride-to-be is involved with UN humanitarian work.

“Harry was very involved with the design of the ring,” the source said.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/896915/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-banned-blood-diamonds-engagement-ring


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Amanda on December 27, 2017, 02:27:46 pm


 Windsor2:

Sorry, but when Meghan was ignored? Because I saw William talking to her several times and Harry always talking and looking at her and tenderly. I think you're seeing things that don't exist. :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 27, 2017, 02:45:47 pm
^^What about the source of Diana's diamonds or the BRF's for that matter?  Golf clap for effort, Harry.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5214723/Prince-Harry-said-Meghan-Markle-fantastic-Christmas.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5214723/Prince-Harry-said-Meghan-Markle-fantastic-Christmas.html)


So, we're now going with the woe is me for coming from a broken home left in a blanket on England's shores and thank God the BRF are the Waltons again?

This just proves a couple of millions things including, 1.  The BRF are better actors than Sparkles (tho not hard to do), MM will discard and use anybody to get where she wants to be, and 3.  Doria (Dora?) is still the only genuine player in this fantasy and I believe knows exactly what her daughter is, called her on her bullsh#, so we can't have that Truth around muddying things up, and 4.  MM, the independent strong feminist is helpless, homeless, timid and needy.  

It's hard to keep track of the narratives on sale here.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 27, 2017, 02:50:42 pm
^^ I saw Kate talking to Meghan, and William, and Charles turned his face to her a few times as well. Philip was new the four of them as they came out of church. I saw no ignoring.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 27, 2017, 03:37:26 pm
Charles smiled at Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 27, 2017, 03:53:04 pm
ITA Yooper. It's pretty pathetic the whole thing which only leads to believe that this pantomime is for a bigger purpose as he's lying through his teeth.
I don't believe that he mentioned her by name, just she, this girl. I think he also did that during the engagement interview.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 27, 2017, 05:31:29 pm
The whole time interview is available on catch up and it's worth listening to


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 27, 2017, 05:42:05 pm
^Transcript anywhere for insomnia reading? 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 27, 2017, 06:03:07 pm
I tried to copy a link but it didn't work. If you Google 'Harry Obama interview BBC ' you can get the full download


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 27, 2017, 06:37:19 pm
I have no doubts that MM family is her mother and that is it. So yes the BRF is big even with just HM direct descendants and spouses. And a big two day Christmas Party with food, drinks, songs, little kids and all the fun presents has got to be fun for most people, especially when I don't think she celebrated it much as a family thing. That is why I imagine she was invited to theirs before marriage. I think that was polite of them. I'm sure she was in 7th heaven. Harry is showing his colors now with O'bama (O' Bummer for some of us whose taxes were raised). He likes the celebrity stuff as does O'bama like no other president. Harry is not an interviewer, nor has he trained for that ( other than yes he has been interviewed by many.) I now think he wants an actress wife and he would like to be professionally in front of the camera in some form. Not acting (yet). Who is he to interview our past president. I am sure the subjects and questions were all written out and rehearsed so PH could be a big guy and play newsman. I now think he and MM are well suited. They are so irritating now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 27, 2017, 06:52:38 pm
This Is How Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Will Make Money After the Wedding
http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/money/g4996/how-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-make-money/


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 27, 2017, 07:19:07 pm
He needs to give this up and work on charities. After all the talk about his mother's charity work, he wants to become a "broadcast journalist" the next Anderson Cooper or whoever he wants to emulate IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: ohmy on December 27, 2017, 07:52:10 pm
Who knows what's possible in this life? Anderson Cooper is the son of the one and only Gloria Vanderbilt. A descendant of THE Vanderbilt Family ( Hospitals, Schools, Endowments, Etc.). Life is only a moment and it is impossible to make everyone happy 50% of the time, just do something useful that serves something beyond self.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 27, 2017, 07:56:00 pm
@Yooper ....success at last

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=8&ved=0ahUKEwiagKOx_KrYAhVjLcAKHZroDOEQtwIIPjAH&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DInZug6shMKw&usg=AOvVaw05sGCDyaTqYGJMx11kBoD3


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: dianab on December 27, 2017, 09:04:34 pm
I have no doubts that MM family is her mother and that is it. So yes the BRF is big even with just HM direct descendants and spouses. And a big two day Christmas Party with food, drinks, songs, little kids and all the fun presents has got to be fun for most people, especially when I don't think she celebrated it much as a family thing. That is why I imagine she was invited to theirs before marriage. I think that was polite of them. I'm sure she was in 7th heaven. Harry is showing his colors now with O'bama (O' Bummer for some of us whose taxes were raised). He likes the celebrity stuff as does O'bama like no other president. Harry is not an interviewer, nor has he trained for that ( other than yes he has been interviewed by many.) I now think he wants an actress wife and he would like to be professionally in front of the camera in some form. Not acting (yet). Who is he to interview our past president. I am sure the subjects and questions were all written out and rehearsed so PH could be a big guy and play newsman. I now think he and MM are well suited. They are so irritating now.
there are pics of meghan in her teen years with her brothers and dad... the windsors arent a cozy, warm family... the kids are in separate rooms with their nannies... in-laws doesnt have a good time during the christmas... tim laurence is told to be treated more like a equerry than a member of family... i doubt that meghan is well treated by the family... william definitely has a good laugh at this harry statement re:family


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 27, 2017, 09:09:47 pm
I listened to some of the interview and read some of it. Obama's very full of himself but that's to be expected. I don't believe anything I don't believe anything he says . :spy:rHe's been trying to nose his way back in but he can't because the people are tired of him and tired enough that they voted in trunk. Harry's interviewing wasn't anything special or exciting.MM definitely needs to help him in the public field. And I don't know that Megan is responsible for him wanting to get in the public eye because I think he wanted to do that all along and Meghan Markle was a way for him to break into things. And if he does become Hollywood Harry I give their marriage very little chances surviving because most Hollywood marriage's do not


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 27, 2017, 09:34:15 pm
Harry is a good interviewer IMO. He's at ease in front of a mic. In the engagement interview though, Harry talked specifically about he and Meghan being 'a team' in undertaking Royal duties and patronages in the future, in other words with 'the Firm'. He's just received a new patronage yesterday, African Parks. There is no way that Harry is going Hollywood or going to be a newsman or that Meghan will act again, judging from what he said. The Today Radio 4 thing is just a one-off fun thing the royals do from time to time, like William and Kate turning up at a radio show a few months ago or Kate guest-editing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 27, 2017, 09:54:46 pm
Beg to differ with your opinion.  Anything is Possible. A few years ago I would have never thought it possible  that the firm accept an older,.actress, divorced, Yank, racially mixed,from a questionable family woman for Harry.  They did with some eyes rolling. 10 years down the line if these two are still together I can easily see them accept her going back to acting and making money and getting off the taxpayers roll if she could get roles or endorsements and sponsorships or whatever. She may even develop her own clothes line again and this time it may sell big. Harry could totally decide to leave British royal family.  He thought about doing it before. Still going to be their relative whether he's doing the Rroyal thing and getting taxpayers money or not. He's still going to have a lot of money whether he does the royal thing or not and ihe will still be a royal whether he's being paid by the taxpayers and doing stuff for them or not. Things change all the time and they are in process of changing so don't be so sure that just because today it's not happening that it won't happen tomorrow. That's life


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2017, 09:56:15 pm
It seems to me that it's ridiculous to keep coming up with new ideas on how to sympathize with Meghan. If people don't like her for a reason - Harry should accept that, move on, step down from the brf cash machine and support his high maintenance, high demands emotional abuser on his own dime. PH needs to learn responsibility, not how to listen more to what this woman whispers into his ear.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 27, 2017, 10:33:17 pm
@Ariel. You make sense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 27, 2017, 10:45:32 pm
Indeed this has gotten to be a very bad movie/soap opera staring a royal prince and his lying grifter fiancé influencing to do her bidding. It's inconceivable to believe that Harry's now letting the world in on his private life like this. IMO, it seems like he's playing a role because Meghan's everything he's telling the young people not to be. So if this doesn't have a big reveal very soon like those dumb soap operas have, how can he possibly think that the British people and the commonwealth will allow him to cheapen the monarchy by lying his way through and allowing Meghan to do as she pleases like she's a Hollywood starlet marrying a rich movie star. People are mad at him now and questioning what's the point of a royal family. Things will only continue to deteriorate the longer things go on like this so this drama has to come to a logical end that'll make sense of why we've had to hear and read about this woman for over a year and why Harry's turned into this weak person being led/directed in Meghan's fantasy of being an American "princess."
Ariel, it's senseless because she can never gain people's sympathy. People have long memories and remember the crap articles about her and her family that have come out over the year, that's why they see her as the con artist she is. She drops people, animals, charity causes at a drop of a hat to cling on to her next mark. Look how fast she dropped her mum to spend time with Harry at Christmas. She's played all her cards now; race, gender, class, being an American. She's got nothing now but to confront her past which should be smacking her in the face; laid bare in the press.



Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2017, 11:24:58 pm
Exactly - cut the rotting branch or send the merch machine home.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 27, 2017, 11:52:55 pm
Tis true this woman drops whatever to get what and where she wants. Karma will pay off eventually. BTW, I bet her mom doesn't mind one bit. Her daughter got the prize.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 27, 2017, 11:58:01 pm
Her mother keeps her mouth shut and is discreet which is a good thing. She must have a lot of patience with the paps taking photos of her bringing the laundry to the laundromat.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 12:00:35 am
Her mother is not going to wreck things for her only daughter. Why would she. It's her half sister. And now she is being nice.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 12:04:09 am
@Yooper ....success at last

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=8&ved=0ahUKEwiagKOx_KrYAhVjLcAKHZroDOEQtwIIPjAH&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DInZug6shMKw&usg=AOvVaw05sGCDyaTqYGJMx11kBoD3

 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 28, 2017, 12:34:07 am
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are 'leading the planning process for all aspects' of their May 19 wedding - but it's not yet known if the Obamas will be invited
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216219/Harry-Meghan-leading-planning-process-wedding.html
Why the big deal regarding if Obama will get an invite!
She's not won anything yet. When the priests announce them husband and wife will be her triumph, until then, she'll have to deal with quite a few hurdles. At least they're keeping KP and Harry's staff away from this sh*t show as this is Meghan's fantasy romance and wedding.
Life's too short and this drama has gone on way too long to keep the interest of the people, so I'm hoping that her karma will come fast and strong very soon. Harry acting all out of character and being the supportive chap to her overspending, merchandising, rudeness is sickening to read and watch as well as his deteriorating health as he looked stressed out and irritated and the public getting annoyed at this never ending nonsense daily in the press. Meghan's going on her merry way with not a care in the world as she continues to tick the public off with her presence and non-caring attitude. I'd love for her to return to the states and refused entry if she wants to return to London because I'm sure she's breaking a few laws as it seems she working merchandising whilst in London. I'm sure that somehow that's against the law; not having a working visa in London.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 28, 2017, 01:42:47 am
Actually she has a large family who were always there for her': Meghan Markle's estranged sister hits back at Prince Harry's claim that the royals are 'the family she never had'

Funny comment;
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Nina Fangman, London, United Kingdom, 6 minutes ago

I was also quite surprised to hear Harryette the Marionette say that. I mean, we have basically been bombarded with Sparkle's family (Particularly THOSE brothers and the sister), family pics, family videos, family trees even ... The list goes on. This whole thing just keeps getting more and more bizarre by the day.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216619/Meghan-Markles-sister-hits-Prince-Harrys-claim.html#ixzz52W2MrsTQ
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Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 28, 2017, 01:54:53 am
I don't understand why Harry had to say that publicly, if at all  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 28, 2017, 02:47:12 am
Considering that Samantha bombarded the media with tweets attacking Meghan from the time Camilla Tominey outed the romance, (some of them quoted here) and then did a 45 degrees and lavishly praised her on Entertainment Tonight, then went back on the attack and presently has been covering her with praise again and denying she abused Meghan, I think Samantha has as much credibility as a snake.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 03:04:40 am
She probably had a few Christmases in her youth with her father's other family but not all the time and I'm sure she doesn't do anything with them since she's been an adult.
 She's been with that ex husband since her early 20's and he is Jewish. I don't like Megan that much I think she's a liar and a user however I do believe that she doesn't have big family events anymore


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 28, 2017, 03:24:44 am
I don't understand why Harry had to say that publicly, it at all  :thumbsdown:

Same. Like, what’s the point, really? My best guess is he’s going overboard trying to prove that everything’s peaches and cream but he’s really just coming across as try hard, doth protest too much, and insensitive. It’s also weird because we already know she doesn’t even know any of these people very well. So it all just seems very contrived and ridiculous. I can appreciate that everyone has a family ideal but come on it’s ridiculous to label people as the family you never had simply because they’re a large number when you don’t even know them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Ariel on December 28, 2017, 03:30:47 am
We also have Doria's side of the family which even though PH classified then as "the family she didn't have", MM went to their weddings.

I just noticed that they walked in church and walked out of church hand in hand. That's forbidden as far as I know. If you're not married, you don't hold hands. Even if you're married you don't imitate teenagers.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 28, 2017, 03:43:04 am
Why is it forbidden? I've been a member of the Church of England all my life, and have never heard of such a ruling. Ive seen dozens of couples exiting church hand in hand or arm in arm.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: meememe on December 28, 2017, 04:08:46 am
I am with you Rosella. I too have never heard of any such rule - and if so have broken it many times with different boyfriends in by teens and 20s and even now I don't always walk out with my husband but if it is with another man we may very well hold hands as friends. If I am with my husband I may or may not hold hands - depends on the circumstances but certainly in no CoE where I have worshipped has there ever been any such rule.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 28, 2017, 04:20:06 am
It's still cringworthy that she never seemed to take her hand off of him the whole time from the church to their Wizard of Oz/Fab 4 walk.  :nervous:
How I longed for an incredulous John Humphrys snort! JAN MOIR is glued to Radio 4 as Prince Harry guest edits the Today programme
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216735/JAN-MOIR-glued-Radio-4-Prince-Harry-guest-edits.html
Harry's being contradictory and hypercritical according to Jan and many others. How's he going to help the youth when he's creating all this drama? this has gotten to Jeremy Kyle, reality tv show trash level starng a British prince and his tacky actress fiancé and her tackless family. Harry's not a good liar imo, and his body looking stressed out is proof. This charade has to end if only for the good of his health. People want her and this situation gone and the old Harry back, because tis has gotten way out of hand. The whole thing's contradictory and hypercritical as all of this goes against him wanting to help young people and help with conservatio. It'll be his and the royal family's death kill to have a marriage between them because nothing but this kind f mess will be the result. What benefit has this odd romace and now engagement brought; nothing but drama and click bait for the press and negativity on social media sites, the things that he wanted the youth to stay away from and ue there time to help others.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 04:22:43 am
Unfortunately unless she runs off with Obama I don't see this ending until after they're married a few years.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on December 28, 2017, 04:56:20 am
Harry needs to realize that playing the victim card does not endear the public to Markles.  :bye:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: marion on December 28, 2017, 08:00:43 am
@windsor2...don't you understand she has to hang onto hump lest he sees sense and tries to make a run for it!!!

Her family are now hitting back at the lies  being told. I guess they're not rich or beautiful enough for her now she's hit the jackpot but she's stupid to make enemies ...on the other hand the truth about her coming out would make for some delicious posting  :bouncy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5216619/Meghan-Markles-sister-hits-Prince-Harrys-claim.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 12:34:12 pm
Where are these insinuations printed that's some bad news will come out about her?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 28, 2017, 01:44:39 pm
^They never do come out you have someone saying something big will drop on xyz date then when xyz date goes and comes nothing ,then that xyz date gets turn into abc date  :laundry:.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: D.I.R. on December 28, 2017, 06:38:25 pm
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Does Meghan Markle Have Children?

For those of you keeping track, Meghan Markle has already been married to Trevor Engelson from 2011 to 2013, but does she have any children? The answer is no, though when it comes to having a family with her fiancé, Prince Harry, she is definitely on board.

Although the couple haven't spoken in length about starting a family, during their first BBC interview as an engaged couple in November, Harry and Meghan hinted that having kids is going to happen for them, but just not right away.

"Not currently, no," Prince Harry told BBC when asked about children. "But I think eventually, one step at a time and we'll start a family in the near future."

Meghan has also been relatively quiet on the subject since dating Prince Harry. In 2016, she opened up to Lifestyle magazine about her life, career, and future family.

"I also dream to have a family. It's all about balance, and I have so much happiness in my career and am fortunate to travel the world and see so many amazing things - it will also be nice to be anchored to something grounded and in the same place," she told the magazine for its September issue - which was conducted after she began dating Harry in July of that year. "Raising a family will be a wonderful part of that."

Related Video: Prince Harry On Meghan's 'Fantastic' Christmas with Royals: It's the Family 'She's Never Had' [Provided by People]

Even before her romance began with the Prince of England, Meghan had discussed her desire to be a mom with another publication. In fact, Us Weekly discovered an old interview via Harper's Bazaar that the actress did with Best Health Canada where she quickly touched upon her family plans.

In the interview, from April 2016, Meghan said that becoming a mom was on her "bucket list." Plus, she added that "I can't wait to start a family, but in due time." No matter when the adorable couple do decide to add to their group, family and being a part of the royal family is something that Meghan is ready for.

"His family has been so welcoming. I have [met several family members] on his mother's side, it's been really important to me too," Meghan said during the couple's BBC interview. "The family has been great, and in the past year and a half, they've made me feel a part of, not just the institution, but of a part of the family."

Since Meghan's future sister-in-law, Kate Middleton, is currently expecting baby number three with Prince William, perhaps Meghan and Harry don't need to worry about becoming parents just yet. But as all fans of the royal family know, royal baby watch is an exciting venture, no matter who is pregnant!

Related: Inside Meghan Markle & Kate Middleton’s Friendship [Provided by OK! Magazine]Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Prince Andrew, Duke of York et al. posing for a photo: Kate has been "really looking out for" Meghan, a source revealed to Life & Style. They are apparently regulars at the Soho House in London.
Inside Meghan Markle & Kate Middleton’s Friendship


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 07:22:54 pm
I think there will be an announcement of impending parenthood of M and H in about 10 months. ANd the baby born in Summer 2019. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 07:39:06 pm
She will be turning 37 a few months after they get married sonshe needs to start a family ASAP or else she's going to have to deal with in vitro and such procedures. So guessing 2019 is when they'll be parents is probably on their plans considering her age. I know people have their first children in their 40s but usually need help and you always have the risk of down syndrome and all those things. So the sooner the better for them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 28, 2017, 07:47:28 pm
Now KP has commented on "the famiyl she never had" after M's sister spoke out... This is turning into such a soap opera.

"[...] Ms Grant also said she would reveal more in the book she is planning to write, which she has said will be called the Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister.

A Kensington Palace spokesperson said Prince Harry's "comments speak for themselves". "

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42501630

How ridiculous. I read a comment, and I think it's true: M cried into H's ear about how terrible she's had it all the time and he thinks he's her saviour, her prince on a white horse in shining armour to save her and give her everything (she's supposedly never had).
Also she's had her in-laws and then Corey's families along with her own. From her childhood and teenage pics we see that she was surrounded by family and people.

As per the KP statement, it's once again all how they see and say it, there's just never room for corrections or adjustment.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: buflesse on December 28, 2017, 07:51:46 pm
Wow, can't believe KP just said that. Petty...


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 08:04:40 pm
Can you just imagine the sob story Sparkles has manufactured for maximum results?  The woman has no moral compass at all. 

Thank God the stable, down to earth, scandal-free, overly harmonious, warm, welcoming and relaxed BRF was there to save the little helpless mite.   :ick:


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 28, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
And speaking of Meggles being surrounded by peoples, where is she?  In my recollection, the daily whereabouts of royal fiancees was duly reported by media.   Diana, of course, was never-ending coverage; Sarah Ferguson likewise was regularly reported and photographed; Sophie was even given regular coverage trudging to her PR office and pretending that she was not trying to copy Diana; and Kate was photographed shopping with her mother and sister.   But Meggles appears -- disappears -- appears -- disappears.. . . .    What's up?


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kins on December 28, 2017, 08:13:37 pm
^^^Agree. I don't know who at KP thought it would be a good idea to even give this 'story' any reaction. All this does is encourage more of the same.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 28, 2017, 08:13:53 pm
Inside The Restaurant Where Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Had Their First Date
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/inside-the-restaurant-where-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-had-their-first-date


well i guess that KP statement told people off  :snob: for people who say they don't read anything on social media  they sure read what sam and twitter had to say and it ticked them off

Like the BRF is soo much better


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 09:14:30 pm
It’s beyond insulting to her mother, at the very least.  Now, it sounds less like a royal marriage and more like the BRF’s group charity project.

What a mess this is gonna be when manure meets up with fan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 09:19:55 pm
Well this is the problem with being Royal. You really do have to be careful what you say because so many people will construe it one way or another and it's probably not what you really meant to say or convey. That is the price you pay for being born into a fabulously wealthy family that doesn't even pay their full share of taxes and that the world watches and dotes on for no good reason except they're supposed blood line which is going to pots now. It does speak for itself that's what Harry thinks. And he thinks what he hears her saying. That sister really hates her for some reason. Perhaps the royal family was on exceptionally good behavior with a stranger in the mist who they KNOW  will go and blab to the Press if they don't treat her right. But in all fairness it probably was a pretty fantastic Christmas for her and she probably really felt she never had a family like that which he didn't. Now I can't say anything about her Jewish in-laws they're probably okay and I don't know how into the family of that other guy she was living  with.
She does have baggage and you know what... Harry bought himself one. But I do think too much is being made of Harry's comments about the Christmas party fun and magic.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: danifaul on December 28, 2017, 09:46:36 pm
KP   :o  i can't belive!

Harry  :tehe: he love drama!

Harry-Meghan-KP : Again they confirm that they read what .... say about them on the internet.

M's sister -  :wopedo: happy now ,she finally got a 'response/attention' from Harry.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 09:59:55 pm
Welllll, looking at this debacle logically, who might know Nutmeg best?  A family who has known her about a year or one who has watched, lived with and suported her for 36+?

There are a lot of people in this woman’s life with tire treads on their backs and dust in their faces after being involved with her.  Anybody with this many discarded people in their life raises questions.  It can’t be all her parents, ex-husband, boyfriends, ex friends who are in the wrong.  Doesn’t add up.

First class phony continues from where I sit. 

As a parent myself, I cannot imagine reading a more derply painful, public sentiment.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 28, 2017, 10:00:48 pm
Dissed off: Meghan Markle's mom Doria seen for first time since Prince Harry maligned fiancee's family while future royal's sister uses the free press to promote her upcoming memoir

Meghan Markle's mother was seen for the first time since her future son-in-law's controversial comment about her family on Thursday as she strolled around Los Angeles.

Doria Ragland kept a low profile as she walked her dogs in a pair of leggings and a white long-sleeved shirt,keeping her face hidden behind a pair of sunglasses.

It was no doubt a difficult holiday for Doria, who was away from her daughter while she rubbed elbows with Queen Elizabeth and company at Sandringham.

That was a big change from last year, when Meghan returned to Toronto after spending the days before Christmas with Prince Harry and was with Doria on the holiday.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5219039/Meghan-Markle-mom-Doria-seen-Prince-Harry-comment.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 28, 2017, 10:33:45 pm
Lot of negativity around MM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 10:40:55 pm
I really think the media needs to leave Doria alone. She is discreet and does not court the media. The woman can't even walk her dogs without cameras around. The media should be ashamed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: CarryingOn on December 28, 2017, 10:49:04 pm
Welllll, looking at this debacle logically, who might know Nutmeg best?  A family who has known her about a year or one who has watched, lived with and suported her for 36+?

There are a lot of people in this woman’s life with tire treads on their backs and dust in their faces after being involved with her.  Anybody with this many discarded people in their life raises questions.  It can’t be all her parents, ex-husband, boyfriends, ex friends who are in the wrong.  Doesn’t add up.

First class phony continues from where I sit.  

As a parent myself, I cannot imagine reading a more derply painful, public sentiment.

I agree. Not seeing why some people are acting like Murky’s sister is incorrect just because she’s being loud and brash about it all. Even a broke clock is right twice a day as they say (not to mention it’s not like the Windsors are the Huxtables incarnate so no reason to look down on Murky’s dysfunctional sister). Besides plenty of families are terribly imperfect, dysfunctional, and the list goes on. But crazy as it is, it still doesn’t mean that they’re not there for one another.

And I’ll say it again, I think it’s highly contrived and jumping the gun to call people you barely know and have spent little time around, in an intimate capacity, the family you never had regardless of their numbers being large and already knowing the Windsor’s are cut throat.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 10:53:47 pm
^^The media are doing their job.  It is Harry and Meghan who should be ashamed.  There was no reason to ever have dragged her family/mother down like that in public.  It’s inexcusable.  I went ftom just being an eye roller over this couple to complete disgust. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 10:57:33 pm
Doria is not an attention seeker and perhaps wants some peace, which everyone is entitled to.  Harry was the one who said this. How Meghan felt about it is subject to speculation. But Harry is responsible for making this unfortunate statement-it turned out the be click bait for Samantha.  Harry needs to think first before he makes such statements. I think the media should not stalk Doria. If she wants to be left alone, she should be left alone. If Harry could just use his head and brain cells, he may have figured it out that this was a put down of her family and that Samantha would be talking to the media in no time.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 11:05:15 pm
She was left alone before Harry said something so cruel, publicly.  Not a word of concern during the fires, not a full spread photo barrage or request for comment after the engagement was ever published.

He didn’t make up this situation on his own.  He had to believe it somehow (wonder how?) or it never would have been spoken. 

Imagine, after raising a child, doing your best, and all things parenting for yearrrrrrs to hear this?  It is a wound unimaginable.  It’s downright mean and selfish.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 11:09:01 pm
Harry has made unfortunate statements before some of which he had to apologize for. It was very cruel.

Maybe (just speculation) she raved about how much she adored the family and being with them and the family were all together unlike her own, etc etc. But this should never have been made public and if he wanted to do this, he put the wrong spin on it. Maybe saying she played with his niece and nephew and "adored them" or something innocent.

Her mother should not have cameras thrust upon her. She is not going to comment about this no matter what.  She apparently wants peace. And Samantha who is the one who likes media attention is running with this now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Joanna on December 28, 2017, 11:13:13 pm
What on earth possessed them to pull these anctics? What sort of disloyalty towards her family is this? This is ot endearing at all, it's horrid, cowardly, putrid. This is why I keep saying Meghan has a duplicitous nature. Vile actions speak much louder than easy honey covered lies. Harry is telling what he heard from her in a light-version I'm sure. He's getting that information from her. Imagine what sort of things she must've actually said. I'd be livid if I were her mother.

The fault lies with the people committing these actions, not on those reporting them, especially when said people can't even say this is a product of fabrication sold by the press. It isn't the case in the current situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 11:20:51 pm
Harry grew up in a goldfish bowl existence where the media pounced on everything. He is totally clueless in his handling of public statements. Does he have anybody guiding him, media wise. Meghan may have ranted to him about her family but it did not mean he had to make such statements. Maybe he thought he was "helping" or "being supportive" but dirty linen should never be aired. I think what will come out of this is damage control. Maybe inviting the family to a royal event/luncheon so it looks like "one big happy family" and her family is great, etc etc. He did have a photo of with Doria and said he spoke to her about marrying her daughter. I suspect there will be some damage control.  I still think the media are not going to get any statements from Doria no matter what.  Meghan's father almost is living "off the grid" and had to be found by the media.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 11:28:39 pm
Doria remains the only one in this disgusting display with any class and in no way, shape or form, deserved this punch in the gut.  Just think what her friends, co-workers, extended family, those who have undoubtedly put up with Meagain’s antics think? 

I’d be livid if I was in that family, too.  It’s too late for damage control for any mother.  It’s irreparable and all that happens moving forward is a facade of staged photo ops, nothing genuine.  Something I do not think Doria believes in.

I would also imagine this is beneath contempt to HM as well who sees the more mature and lasting view.  She knows.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: HRHOlya on December 28, 2017, 11:32:25 pm
^x8 CarryingOn:
"And I’ll say it again, I think it’s highly contrived and jumping the gun to call people you barely know and have spent little time around, in an intimate capacity, the family you never had regardless of their numbers being large and already knowing the Windsor’s are cut throat."

Yes!!! Equally so it is quite distasteful of H to dismiss M's family in the way he did, as he does not know them at all, save from M's mouth. And how reliable is she with her stories? We all know that every story has 3 sides: side A, side B, and the truth.

Also, boy, will she be in for a rude awakening once she really gets to know the Windsors (and the Middletons!)!!

^ Very true. If I were Doria I'd be livid. And as I said before, I can't imagine that Diana would be amused one bit about her son's idiotic remark.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 11:32:30 pm
I think a very obvious damage control attempt will be made. With very obvious emphasized.  And what is puzzling is that Harry of all people would know that no family is perfect. And how can these judgments be made after just one family gathering with the royals. A royal gathering (one time) is not the same as spending time with them on a day to day basis, warts and all.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 28, 2017, 11:33:58 pm
Harry has never said anything disrespectful of Doria or Thomas in public. When he spoke about the 'family she (Meghan) never had' he was undoubtedly speaking about the fact that she had enjoyed Christmas in a big old country house with large numbers of relatives around in an extended family. The royals do enjoy their Christmases and Meghan, unused to British Xmases, probably found it great fun.

It's clear from the ancient photos produced by the Markles (for money presumably) that Meghan (who has not said one word about them publicly) hasn't seen most of them for years, (except for one niece who is Samantha's estranged daughter). They are a fractured family. Many of them attacked Samantha for what she said about them and about Meghan earlier this year.

 Samantha has alternately praised, fawned on and attacked her half sister in a really bizarre fashion since this romance became known. She called her 'dear' and 'perfect' and ladylike and a great person and then a 'social climber' and 'determined to be a princess'. Which 'truth' are we expected to believe Samantha?

It's clear IMO that she wants fame and money (which her relatives have previously pointed out) and is determined to get it one way or another.

The Daily Fail online is anti-Meghan, and in its usual tabloid way has been making hay while the sun shines about her and her family. It's the Fail that has apparently offered up to $100,000 for stories and photos of Meghan since  November 2016.

Not one of that family has anything bad to say about Meghan except this half-sister who is supposedly flogging a book telling the 'truth'. Well, IMO, Samantha wouldn't know 'the truth' if it hit her in her face. She was banned from many correspondents' Twitter last year because of her rantings and now is at it again.

If Doria is disturbed by media attention it would be the disgusting Fail that is leading the attack. Harry hasn't attacked her in public and is not following her as she walks her dogs. Neither is her daughter. They and Doria know the truth about Samantha, and they know that Harry wasn't saying anything derogatory about Doria, just pointing to a different sort of Xmas with a whole heap of relatives around.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 11:37:08 pm
What he should have said, is that Meghan is experiencing her first royal Christmas, learning about the traditions of the UK and of the royals. It is a cultural shift from life in the USA. In that way, it would have been a neutral comment. And a natural comment, a bride to be learning about the customs and culture of her future in laws.

Samantha though jumped at this as an opportunity to go to the media again. I am now wondering if Samantha will be invited to the wedding.

If Harry had neutralized and spun the comment in a different way (different country's holiday customs) Samantha would not have been able to seize on this.




Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 28, 2017, 11:41:27 pm
Harry grew up in a goldfish bowl existence where the media pounced on everything. He is totally clueless in his handling of public statements. Does he have anybody guiding him, media wise. Meghan may have ranted to him about her family but it did not mean he had to make such statements. Maybe he thought he was "helping" or "being supportive" but dirty linen should never be aired. I think what will come out of this is damage control. Maybe inviting the family to a royal event/luncheon so it looks like "one big happy family" and her family is great, etc etc. He did have a photo of with Doria and said he spoke to her about marrying her daughter. I suspect there will be some damage control.  I still think the media are not going to get any statements from Doria no matter what.  Meghan's father almost is living "off the grid" and had to be found by the media.

Harry isn't a child and should know by now that he has to be careful; if he doesn't listen ot the courtiers, that is his fault, not the courtier's fault.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: YooperModerator on December 28, 2017, 11:43:57 pm
Not this time.  This doesn’t get white washed this time.  Anybody who thinks this is ok is dead wrong.  This was as low a blow as anyone could give publicly and I don’t care why.  

It shows a complete lack of maturity and empathy.  It doesn’t matter how anyone in MM’s family has behaved.  It’s nothing new to the Windsors who have kept their mouths shut for far worse.

But, elevating yourself against a family you hardly know personally, and in public, is despicable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: sandy on December 28, 2017, 11:49:09 pm
Coincidentally as I am writing this, ABC News is reporting on this very topic!  Samantha is planning a tell all

And it is ludicrous that based on one visit, everything is known about the in-laws. It takes years to really know what makes them tick. Assumptions of their being "better" at this early stage do not makes sense.

KF, I am wondering if Harry really even bothers listening to courtiers or even dismisses them and does his own PR or tries to.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 28, 2017, 11:55:23 pm
Nope William and Harry think they know it all. Their mouth works faster then their brain William with his comment about the over population in Africa now Harry and this family she never had comment


Yeah it's the family she never had they're rich and from now on she will have people praising her for flipping her hair

Samantha flip flops a lot


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: lesken on December 29, 2017, 12:28:40 am
I think the media will leave her alone as she is not attention seeking, but casual more typical local here. Media likes flash of some sort. So only when MM visits will she be hounded. And if PH and MM keep their mouths shut, there won't be reason for the media to hound her. Don't know if the half sister will cause flurry with her book. She claims it has nice things to say about MM and her growing up. So hopefully for the family or just her mom and dad, they won't be anymore newsworthy than any of the other in-laws except for the Midds who court attention and are trying to be royal themselves.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: Rosella on December 29, 2017, 12:31:17 am
Inside the Soho Townhouse restaurant where Harry and Meghan had their first date.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/inside-the-restaurant-where-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-had-their-first-date


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 29, 2017, 01:24:29 am
I actually love the fact that Harry's being all nasty and mean since he's been engaged to her. He's only stating what she's telling him. I'm sure she did this to every guy she used to climb up to the next one. Harry/Mehgan=chaos, drama, lies and unbalance. IMO, Harry wants all of this negative drama to continue to tick the public, his family and the government off. Who'd honestly want these two to get married; no one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 29, 2017, 01:25:20 am
Now KP has commented on "the famiyl she never had" after M's sister spoke out... This is turning into such a soap opera.

"[...] Ms Grant also said she would reveal more in the book she is planning to write, which she has said will be called the Diary of Princess Pushy's Sister.

A Kensington Palace spokesperson said Prince Harry's "comments speak for themselves". "

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42501630

How ridiculous. I read a comment, and I think it's true: M cried into H's ear about how terrible she's had it all the time and he thinks he's her saviour, her prince on a white horse in shining armour to save her and give her everything (she's supposedly never had).
Also she's had her in-laws and then Corey's families along with her own. From her childhood and teenage pics we see that she was surrounded by family and people.

As per the KP statement, it's once again all how they see and say it, there's just never room for corrections or adjustment.

How RUDE!!!  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
they shouldnt have commented at all....this distraction is getting out of hand


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: windsor2 on December 29, 2017, 01:41:26 am
A royal howler from Harry over Meghan's family: JAN MOIR says Prince has broken rule number one for any new husband
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For him to say this, Meghan, at some deep level, must have presented herself as a victim — or a casualty of family circumstances at the very least. Meanwhile, he clearly sees her as someone he has to rescue; a damsel in distress, a broken sparrow, a lost Cinderella he can wrap his arms around and ensconce behind the castle ramparts.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5219593/JAN-MOIR-says-Prince-Harry-broken-rule-number-one.html#ixzz52brpyyzt
It seems she's always playing the victim card. People are seeing it more and more and all of the ways she could play victim are being dismissed one by one.

Meghan Markle was 'lined up to play Daniel Craig Bond girl but blossoming Prince Harry romance ruled her out'  :tehe:
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"She will maintain her agent and PR to field calls and offers" -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/meghan-markle-lined-up-play-11765154


Title: Re: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are engaged
Post by: LadyLaura on December 29, 2017, 01:47:27 am
I'm hung up on that KP statement.....they publicly insulted a family