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Title: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: dianab on June 24, 2017, 11:17:22 am
Camilla's side of the story: Her love affair with Prince Charles rocked the monarchy. Now friends reveal he begged her to call off her wedding, wept the night before he married Diana - and how she was convinced to go back to him 'to preserve his sanity'
By Richard Kay for the Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 22:33 BST, 23 June 2017 | UPDATED: 10:44 BST, 24 June 2017

The Mail today lifts the lid on the love affair between Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles – telling HER side of the story for the first time.
An explosive biography details the heir to the throne’s decades-long infatuation with Camilla and his tormented marriage to the Princess of Wales.
The book is written by Britain’s top royal author Penny Junor, who was able to speak to Camilla’s family and her confidantes.
Charles is said to have begged Camilla to call off her wedding to her first husband and to have wept the night before his marriage to Diana.
The book says a lady-in-waiting to the Queen, who had known of the prince’s misgivings, had stood with him at a Buckingham Palace window watching the crowds in the Mall with tears streaming down their faces.
The story of the enduring affair that rocked the monarchy is being serialised today and all next week in the Mail.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4634144/Camilla-s-story-revealed-explosive-new-book.html#ixzz4kuhfuosK
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Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Rosella on June 24, 2017, 11:58:15 am
Note the date that this is going to be published, the end of June, to counter in the weeks before the 20th anniversary of Diana's death, the two documentaries paying tribute to Diana, and in which her two sons are going to appear talking about their feelings at her death, funeral etc.

Also note that Penny Junor seems to have been given complete access to CH and clearance to speak to Camilla's friends etc. penny Junor, the author of 'Charles:Victim or Villain' and a well-known C and C supporter.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: cate1949 on June 24, 2017, 12:08:52 pm
It is also Camilla's 70th birthday coming up.

Obviously the was going to have to be some counter balance to the Diana fest.  We just got through the re-release of the Morton book serialized in the DM .  A book which Diana later regretted doing.

The RF and their pr.  So edifying.  LOL


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 24, 2017, 01:05:56 pm
Charles seems simple minded from the excerpt and a blubbering baby. Although she clearly worships Charles, Junor is doing him no favors. At least Edward VIII did not marry a 19 year old to produce heirs and kept Wallis on the side, running his marriage. He moved heaven and earth to marry Wallis. I don't get the big deal over Camilla turning 70. Camilla seems to be desperate to yak to Junor now.

The "courtship" of Charles and Camilla (and APB) sounds like one sordid mess.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: dianab on June 24, 2017, 01:53:18 pm
And there are people who complain about William and Harry having no relationship with Charles and (not) mentioning him in interviews. This war between CH vs KP will the end of monarchy. Charles made his bed and the sons of Diana are entitled/right to fight back IMO

Obviously the was going to have to be some counter balance to the Diana fest.  We just got through the re-release of the Morton book serialized in the DM .  A book which Diana later regretted doing.

No evidence of that. Around her divorce, Piers Morgan asked her, in a lunch he had with her & William, if she regretted the Panorama interview and she said no, she wanted tell these things publicly.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 24, 2017, 02:25:38 pm
It is good Diana got her side out, otherwise the drivel from Charles PR would be more believed.  Charles is so tacky pushing Camilla on the late ex wife's 20th anniversary of her death. And by the way some of Charles pals go on, Camilla's birthday should be a national holiday. Junor in her zeal to help Charles is just airing more dirty linen.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: india on June 24, 2017, 04:28:49 pm
I wish they would all just shut up. Charles promoting Camilla. And the spawn of Diana whining. I do not want to hear the rehashing of Diana's death. I lived through every second of it when it  occurred.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 24, 2017, 06:21:15 pm
I don't want to hear about Camilla's suffering. She brought it on herself. It is too bad there cannot be just a memorial service instead of dueling complaints. But it seems all is not well in the royal family with dueling PR from William and Harry, then from Camilla and Charles. Like a tennis match from hell.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 25, 2017, 07:19:58 am
Camilla was never going to be considered good enough; her lineage was not prominent enough and country gentry lineage would not impress enough at all. The BRF clearly wanted Stuart lineage in their bloodline and Camilla didn't have any. It's kind of disgusting how the BRF had no problems with Camilla as a mistress, then being discarded, but wouldn't consider her fit for one of them as a provider of heirs.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 25, 2017, 11:53:41 am
They were a bunch of hypocrites with the Queen Mum providing a safe house for Charlie boy and the mistress.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: dianab on June 25, 2017, 05:56:30 pm
Camilla was never going to be considered good enough; her lineage was not prominent enough and country gentry lineage would not impress enough at all. The BRF clearly wanted Stuart lineage in their bloodline and Camilla didn't have any. It's kind of disgusting how the BRF had no problems with Camilla as a mistress, then being discarded, but wouldn't consider her fit for one of them as a provider of heirs.
this 'thing' has been going on for centuries...


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Rosella on June 25, 2017, 07:08:05 pm
Camilla does have Stuart ancestry. She, Diana, and Sarah, Duchess of York all have ancestry going back, (in several illegitimate lines  but then he didn't have legitimate descendants), to King Charles II, Charles I and his father James I and therefore to Mary Queen of Scots.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Stephanie on June 25, 2017, 09:28:45 pm
A simple summary.
A teenage Campon is a quite unattractive frustrated boy chaser.
Her parents try to make her "happen" but to no avail.
No respectable suitors to take her off their shelve and things get desperate.
Campon wants to "prove" herself by chasing someone way out of her league and begs APB to take her on as his doormat and mattress. Years later they marry.
Unlike she expected Campon does not get redeemed by marriage.
She is still like she was before and APB just carries on as before.
The kids are off to school and Campon gets bored.
Then a unique chance happens: Chuck is having marriage problems and Campon smells blood: here's the chance to make APB jealous and add some sensation to her dull life: start and affair with Chuck!
Despite the fact that she finds him boring, non masculine and needy like before she has a new goal now: redeem herself by blowing up his marriage and be the next POW.
That way she will "prove" that being ugly inside and out doesn'y matter as long as you have "character".
She will beat Chuck's teenage beautiful bride!
Her "character" changes according to Chuck's needs.
She was a doormat for APB and she will be a mother figure for Chuck.
Anything to get the show going.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: cate1949 on June 25, 2017, 11:38:36 pm
a mistake I think to release this book not doing Cam any favors and simply dredging up hard feelings from the past.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 26, 2017, 12:50:51 am
'Diana cried, ranted and kicked the furniture for six hours': How Charles's new wife hit out when he left her alone and 'nearly knocked a flunky flying' when she found a bracelet for Camilla (before he ended the romance with a sad glance at their wedding)

    Explosive biography of Camilla lifts the lid on her affair with Prince Charles
    Author Penny Junor tells of Diana's paranoia and tantrums about the relationship
    Princess of Wales resented Charles for leaving her alone while on royal duties - even showing jealousy over his time spent with his mother, the Queen
    Prince retreated into a self-described 'cage' as he became serious and brooding, bewildered that the marriage was not turning out to be all that he had hoped
    Camilla telephoned Charles despite years of drifting apart when his worried friend told her she was the only one who could understand and help him


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4638024/Biography-Camilla-lifts-lid-affair-Charles.html


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2017, 01:23:38 am
Such exaggeration. Diana had a "row" over it with Charles. Junor is such a loathsome witch.

Camilla and Charles were in touch the whole time.

How could Diana have had all that energy ? Six hours kicking furniture?! She must have gotten this tittle tattle from Cammy.

I remember how hypocritical Junor had a hissy fit on a radio show when people complained about her trashing Diana. She stomped out like a spoiled brat.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on June 26, 2017, 03:34:17 pm
A simple summary.
A teenage Campon is a quite unattractive frustrated boy chaser.
Her parents try to make her "happen" but to no avail.
No respectable suitors to take her off their shelve and things get desperate.
Campon wants to "prove" herself by chasing someone way out of her league and begs APB to take her on as his doormat and mattress. Years later they marry.
Unlike she expected Campon does not get redeemed by marriage.
She is still like she was before and APB just carries on as before.
The kids are off to school and Campon gets bored.
Then a unique chance happens: Chuck is having marriage problems and Campon smells blood: here's the chance to make APB jealous and add some sensation to her dull life: start and affair with Chuck!
Despite the fact that she finds him boring, non masculine and needy like before she has a new goal now: redeem herself by blowing up his marriage and be the next POW.
That way she will "prove" that being ugly inside and out doesn'y matter as long as you have "character".
She will beat Chuck's teenage beautiful bride!
Her "character" changes according to Chuck's needs.
She was a doormat for APB and she will be a mother figure for Chuck.
Anything to get the show going.


 :laugh:  rofl Stephanie, this book makes Camilla look pathetic and desperate.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2017, 07:24:05 pm
I had a good laugh at Junor saying Camilla "genuinely liked" Diana and they were friends! Diana was not that naive. Camilla was a wolf in sheep's clothing


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Miss Hathaway on June 26, 2017, 07:54:07 pm
Is Penny's book going to include the fact that from 1982 to 1992 Camilla was a source for The Sun with regard to the Wales marriage?


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2017, 08:24:24 pm
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/06/camilla-biography-prince-charles-princess-diana

Now I see Junor is trying to make Diana the Mad Bertha Rochester, slashing Chuckie's paintings on the Honeymoon Cruise. The valet on board Stephen Barry who is dead now was on that trip and never mentioned this, just that Chuckie put in calls to Camilla during the Honeymoon. I think Junor channeled an old Ida Lupino film where Ida slashed Ronald Colman's painting, the movie called the Light that Failed. I think Junor has bats in the belfry to write this trash.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 26, 2017, 10:41:11 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4641418/Diana-s-threatening-phone-calls-Camilla-night.html

Junor regurgitates (cuts and pastes) the accusation against Diana from one of her other hatchet job books. They are moderating comments.  No wonder.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: leogirl on June 26, 2017, 11:28:35 pm
Is Penny's book going to include the fact that from 1982 to 1992 Camilla was a source for The Sun with regard to the Wales marriage?
Charles had no business 'confiding' in Camilla.  :thumbsdown: As a married man, he should have put his wife first, talk to only her and directly to her about the problems in their marriage, and maybe a therapist (confidentiality agreement not to talk to anyone or blather to the press) if they decided to go to couples counseling. No wonder Diana said there were three people in the marriage... Camilla had a big influence on Charles' decision-making, and of course had an affair very early into the marriage. Also telling Charles to only have an heir and a spare when he wanted a daughter and Diana wanted more children in general? Creepy, controlling mother figure.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on June 27, 2017, 09:01:48 am
^ITA  :goodpost: , Camilla is the most dangerous woman to marry into the Royal family in the last century even Wallis by comparison was tame, that sweet granny smile she puts on for the cameras does not fool me one bit.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: kolkomilko on June 27, 2017, 09:27:20 am
What a "gift" for her birthday! Who does want to read her reasons? Perhaps it isn't connected with anniversary of Diana's death but it isn't nice to publish this book this year.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2017, 12:31:31 pm
70 is not exactly a milestone birthday in this day and age. It's 80 and 90 and 100. So I don't get the fuss of her turning 70.  Junor seems to be rather twisted and bitter individual. And I am not fooled either by Camilla's smirks for the camera.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: marion on June 27, 2017, 04:02:09 pm
Its just another excuse to have a go at Diana


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Stephanie on June 27, 2017, 04:21:52 pm
http://68.media.tumblr.com/6dd871ca7547051c7af173f1972f0010/tumblr_os5zgxFmui1v84j0yo2_r1_540.jpg
The Wrinkly Homewrecker has wrinkles in her wrinkles. :ick:


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2017, 09:00:33 pm
https://www.google.com/search?q=junor+and+parker+bowles&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjqnKr15t7UAhWEaT4KHcG8BR4Q_AUIBygC&biw=1280&bih=864#imgdii=dWu7r58uh5HXeM:&imgrc=dpqgz58j2FyQKM:

Look at these two. Camilla probably cackled at the Diana bashings of Junor


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 27, 2017, 10:14:39 pm
Next installment of Junor's bio is out

How Diana's death sparked a fallout between Charles and the Queen over her 'monarch not mummy' attitude: Prince received no comfort on the night of the crash and was then told it was 'non-negotiable' that Camilla had to be out of his life

    New biography of Camilla reveals details of Charles' relationship with the Queen
    Charles and the Queen were together the early morning Princess Diana died
    But the Queen left the comforting to Camilla, who was at home 500 miles away
    Camilla first thought Diana had only broken an arm, but later learned she died
    Following Diana's death, Charles flew to Scotland, where he stayed for days
    Much of the public blamed Charles for Diana's death, saying she would not have been in the crash if he had not had an extramarital affair with Camilla


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4644790/Diana-s-death-caused-fallout-Charles-Queen.html


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 27, 2017, 10:31:52 pm
Why would he want 'comfort' he ditched Diana years before? Charles was a cold fish himself when it came to Diana. Diana wanted to see him in the hospital after he broke his arm but he rejected her. Maybe the Queen thought him a hypocrite.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on June 28, 2017, 03:51:23 pm
 :o So on finding out that Diana was dead he was more concerned about the public blaming him than about his children losing their mother and Camilla feared for him  :-  , C&C are unbelievably selfish people.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Miss Hathaway on June 28, 2017, 04:40:30 pm
^ They are, indeed, and this bio is NOT going to help them out one bit.  It's only going to remind people how badly they behaved.    They are not smart enough to recognize that they will never win in a PR battle against Diana, even now that she is dead.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 28, 2017, 04:52:17 pm
^ Obviously they aren't even smart enough, lack the emotional intelligence, to realize their mistakes and atrocious behaviour.
They still see themselves as victims of fate & destiny, the institution, luck, the Windsors, bad timing and Diana. Incredible, really.

^^ I believe that he was shocked and perhaps in genuine mouring when learning of Diana's death; but reading all this (him being afraid of public blame etc) it does raise questions why he fought so hard that Diana get a state funeral and all the fuss: to turn it into good PR for himself? For their kids? His guilt driving him into it? Genuine feelings?
I think PR & guilt were the main driving forces.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 28, 2017, 05:32:55 pm
Charles is all about PR and image. He took a few months after Diana died with the "great dad" photo ops. Where he would be pictured hugging his sons showing that he is a hands on dad. He took Harry to see the Spice Girls, Harry looking very sad and forlorn. Then he introduced Stepmommy Dearest to them that is pushed her on them. Less than a year after Diana died, using William in his PR (Diana's sons accept Camilla! the headlines screamed) by broadcasting to the entire world's media outlets that the two met for tea and Camilla was soooo nervous she wanted a gin and tonic afterwards. William was said to be displeased. Then the spin was that the "boys" wanted Camilla there for Daddy at his birthday and sat her front and center (as if they had any say in the matter) and this got splattered all over the media outlets. The reality was Harry being left to his own devices at Highgrove and he and William smoked and drank at Camilla's bash. Charles always put Camilla first he seems to have no conscience authorizing books to batter their dead mother. How can this man possibly be King. What a disgrace.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Stephanie on June 28, 2017, 11:18:53 pm
^
Totally agree.
Worrying about the Wrinkly Homewrecker and his own PR when Diana's body was only slowly cooling down as her soul left her in a Paris hospital.
She died alone under horrific circumstances.
Not surprised at all that Wimpo and Harry want as little to do with him as possible.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 28, 2017, 11:25:32 pm
Next installment's out:

Camilla was so terrified on her wedding day that she refused to get out of bed... but a perfect speech by the Queen comparing the happy couple's relationship to the Grand National showed she was accepted and had finally got her prince

    For the week before her marriage to Charles, Camilla had suffered from sinusitis
    But on the wedding day, it was as much nerves as illness that kept her in bed
    It took her sister threatening to wear her outfit that got the Duchess out of bed


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4648502/Camilla-felt-accepted-perfect-speech-Queen.html


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 28, 2017, 11:58:41 pm
Cammy looks hideous showing her gums flashing the Queen Mum's antique ring. Her playing virginal bride is the stuff of farce. I would not say she was "accepted"--"tolerated" might be a better word for it.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2017, 12:56:24 am
Charles blew his credibility and goodwill to bits by marrying her. Before, he was actually becoming accepted and respectable and had the ability to put his foot down and be credible, but after he did, he lost all that priceless leverage and fundamental respect.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Miss Hathaway on June 29, 2017, 02:00:06 pm
^^^  Oh, please!   Camilla may have been nervous that she would be booed or pelted with rotten eggs, but she was determined to marry Charles and take Diana's place.  And now she can't stand it that she is "only" tolerated and not loved as Diana was.



Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 29, 2017, 03:04:01 pm
This PR stunt has backfired horribly.  I'm enjoying every second of it  :flower:


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 29, 2017, 03:44:35 pm
It really has backfired spectacularly, which any idiot could have seen from 1000 miles away  :laugh:
The excerpts are buried fairly quickly in the small sidebar; Diana's/ Morton's were usually still in the "main news" section during the day...


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 29, 2017, 11:07:47 pm
New installment's out:

The making of a royal mistress and why opposites have rarely been so attracted: How Camilla was confident, flirty and adored at home while Charles was tortured, miserable and never felt truly loved by his parents

    In her early teens Camilla was a natural leader, one everyone wanted as their friend; a pretty, sunny child with curls and a calm disposition that everyone liked
    She was adored by her parents, and hero-worshipped her father, Bruce Shand 
    At the age of 11, Camilla was sent to a private girls’ school in South Kensington
    Camilla couldn’t have been less interested in the idea of a career and she wasn’t itching to travel or see the world and had no desire to go to university


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4652314/How-Camilla-confident-flirty-adored-home.html


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on June 29, 2017, 11:20:34 pm
Oh dear. Now Charles' parents get bashed. This is getting to be too much.  Poor Poor Tortured Charles. OMG


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: leogirl on June 30, 2017, 01:29:05 am
Yep, a nice chain of parent-bashing. Charles saying his parents didn't love him and how 'tortured' he was. And Harry conveniently not mentioning his father in interviews...

At least Camilla isn't bashing her parents.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: kolkomilko on June 30, 2017, 07:28:23 am
^ Yes!  lol


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Tatiana on June 30, 2017, 11:41:31 pm
This PR stunt has backfired horribly.  I'm enjoying every second of it  :flower:

  Me 2    :tehe:


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 30, 2017, 11:49:44 pm
Oh dear. Now Charles' parents get bashed. This is getting to be too much.  Poor Poor
Tortured Charles. OMG

HM and Philip had to travel to work to be able to live in a nice place; was Charles supposed to basically be the center of the planet? He has had his own household where everything revolves around him since his twenties and I do think that he's being so stupid by bashing his SOVEREIGN.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on June 30, 2017, 11:52:06 pm
Did Britain's most hated woman SAVE the monarchy? Biographer PENNY JUNOR says Camilla is far from being the mistress who destroyed the Royal Family - and is actually their salvation

    Penny Junor recently released a new biography on the untold story of Camilla
    Camilla was who brought laughter back into Prince Charles' life, writes Junor
    Junor says that Camilla is the 'glue' that has kept the Royal Family together
    She played a large role in the family following Princess Diana's death, Junor says


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4655924/Did-Britain-s-hated-woman-SAVE-monarchy.html

New one by Junor. LOL!


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Tatiana on July 01, 2017, 12:00:41 am
Oh dear. Now Charles' parents get bashed. This is getting to be too much.  Poor Poor
Tortured Charles. OMG

HM and Philip had to travel to work to be able to live in a nice place; was Charles supposed to basically be the center of the planet? He has had his own household where everything revolves around him since his twenties and I do think that he's being so stupid by bashing his SOVEREIGN.

  They had to work to live in a nice place.  ?    Elizabeth II was the Monarch and she did her duty, nothing to do with living in a nice place. 


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Rosella on July 01, 2017, 12:30:57 am
I've read this book. There is a lot of Camilla and Charles--worshipping by Penny in it, especially when it comes to Camilla's impact nowadays on the Royal family. Chapters on her charities and family background are quite interesting, but the allegations Junor makes that Cam is the glue that keeps Charles and his sons together, that she conquered the US Diana-style when C and C visited, that she is invariably warm and friendly with people she meets and works with are frankly just ridiculous. (In fact she gives examples in other places in the book where she contradicts herself!)


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 01, 2017, 12:38:23 am
In Junor's dreams. So why does Charles complain that he does not see his grandchildren? And William spends much of his time with his in-laws.  Harry and WIlliam probably have very little to do with Camilla. I think more likely she caused more alienation between CHarles and his sons.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 12:42:39 am
Oh dear. Now Charles' parents get bashed. This is getting to be too much.  Poor Poor
Tortured Charles. OMG
HM and Philip had to travel to work to be able to live in a nice place; was Charles supposed to basically be the center of the planet? He has had his own household where everything revolves around him since his twenties and I do think that he's being so stupid by bashing his SOVEREIGN.
  They had to work to live in a nice place.  ?    Elizabeth II was the Monarch and she did her duty, nothing to do with living in a nice place.

If they had been regular folk, they would have had to work to live in a nice area and a nice house. It's not like HM was getting well taken care of to just do the gardening. She lived up to her responsibilities and there's nothing wrong with that at all. Charles wouldn't have all he has if his parents did nothing but mooch around and watch the telly.

Did Britain's most hated woman SAVE the monarchy? Biographer PENNY JUNOR says Camilla is far from being the mistress who destroyed the Royal Family - and is actually their salvation

    Penny Junor recently released a new biography on the untold story of Camilla
    Camilla was who brought laughter back into Prince Charles' life, writes Junor
    Junor says that Camilla is the 'glue' that has kept the Royal Family together
    She played a large role in the family following Princess Diana's death, Junor says
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4655924/Did-Britain-s-hated-woman-SAVE-monarchy.html
New one by Junor. LOL!

This has to be the most insane thing I've read; now Camilla is the savior of the monarchy despite wrecking a dynastic marriage that revved the monarchy?


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 01, 2017, 01:35:27 am
The book now is a total joke. So the "savior" of the monarchy is trying to sabotage Will and Harry's efforts to honor their mother. I think the division between Charles and his sons which was not that great to begin with will further deteriorate thanks to sycophant Junor who admits she spoke to Camilla. No wonder WIlliam spends his time with the Middletons.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 02:21:18 am
Junor sounds literally insane.

This is the writings of a seriously delusional person.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on July 01, 2017, 12:08:22 pm
 Savior of the monarchy  :yeahright: , Penny is turning herself into a laughing stock.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Alexandrine on July 01, 2017, 12:40:12 pm
The "glue"?!?!? I do not even think Camilla and Charles live together...


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on July 01, 2017, 03:29:25 pm
^True, Camilla lives at Raymill and Charles at Highgrove and Clarence house they come together when they have joint engagements. Camilla held on to her old house as a bolt hole when she grows tired of Charles and royal demands.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on July 01, 2017, 05:44:28 pm
This is the first piece I haven't read yet, but it sounds like the most delusional and the one that's the nail in the coffin of credibility (this book had none to begin with, but just wow to Camz "saving" the monarchy).
The delusion is beyond belief with Junor, she really does sound absolutely insane. A total nutter that disgrace of a woman. The paper this book is printed on is wasted for such utter rubbish! Unbelievable. And it gets the approval of C&C! That these two, or rather three, don't see how this is having the exact opposite effect than what they hoped for is beyond me. A sign of low intelligence when after all this time you can't step up and stop whining and seeing yourself as victim and to assess the situation properly and see that this is such a bad bad idea. This threesome is the stuff of I don't even know what, the stuff of jokes surely.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 01, 2017, 08:35:58 pm
Junor is the same fanatical woman who stomped out in a snit at a radio studio, when callers in complained about she talked about Diana.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: jackiew on July 02, 2017, 10:47:20 am
^^ITA, the stuff of legendary narcissists.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on July 02, 2017, 11:02:25 am
^ Thank you, yes! The stuff of legendary deluded narcissists!! smh


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 02, 2017, 07:03:56 pm
THis is priceless! Another take on the book

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/02/the-duchess-the-untold-story-by-penny-junor-digested-read-camilla-parker-bowles


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: HRHOlya on July 02, 2017, 07:32:53 pm
^ I have laughed so much!!! lmao wonderful!! Particularly the underlined I found hilarious!

"For much of the final decade of the 20th century, the unravelling of the marriage between Charles, Prince of Wales, and Diana dominated the news throughout the galaxy. In the midst of all this was another person. A woman more sinned against than sinning.

Camilla Parker Bowles is possibly the most wronged and misunderstood woman I have ever met. Diana chose to make false claims about her and the mud stuck. She said that Camilla and Charles had made love on the night before the royal wedding. That is simply not true. It was at lunchtime. And only a blowjob at that.

Yet despite all the lies that have been told about her, Camilla has retained her dignity. Her love for Charles, and his for her, has a purity and nobility that has shone through the 35 years I have been writing sycophantic books and articles about the royal family. Far from being the woman who nearly brought down the House of Windsor, it is my opinion she will come to be seen as the woman who saved it. A woman worthy of beatification and through whose devotion and duty Charles has been transformed into a semi-functioning human being.

Camilla had a fascinating childhood if you like reading about the upper classes at play in the postwar years. After leaving Queen’s Gate school with a single O-level in kennel hygiene [one more than D! Also that school offered ridiculous classes, like "writing a cheque", you were supposed to be trained to be a wife smh], she went on to become the most sought-after debutante of her generation. Her smile could light up any room, and she soon caught the eye of the dashing Andrew Parker Bowles who was several years older than her. She quickly fell in love with him, and though Andrew repeatedly broke her heart by sleeping with all her friends she remained loyal and faithful to him up until the time she wasn’t.

The fateful first meeting between Charles and Camilla took place in the shimmering heat of the summer of 1970. There was an instant attraction between the two of them, an attraction born of a shared intelligence and a love of hunting. Had Charles only been able to tell her how he loved her, then perhaps the whole course of human history might have been different. But that is something on which we can only speculate for several chapters. So Camilla decided to marry the roguish Andrew while Charles had to make do with Diana.

How Charles sobbed on his wedding night as he realised the enormity of his mistake. Yet because of his profound sense of duty to his country, Charles decided to give his marriage a go for at least a week before ringing Camilla to have a moan about Diana. Tapes of these conversations mysteriously reached the public domain and have been widely misinterpreted. Though Charles appears to be saying, “Love you” he is actually saying, “Love Hugh.” Hugh was his pet labrador.

Because of her bulimia and other related mental health problems, Diana became irrationally jealous about the fact that Charles sneaked out to see Camilla at every available opportunity, and was constantly dropping into Argos to buy her “Chas & Cam” matching jewellery. Though enough has been written about that unhappy marriage – mostly by me – I should add just one further thing. After extensive private conversations with people who are intimately connected with the the royal couple, I can categorically state that it was Diana’s infidelity that drove Charles into the arms of Camilla. And only then with the greatest of reluctance.

Diana’s death was a turning point in the nation’s history and the Queen advised Charles to end his relationship with Camilla. But the Prince of Wales was determined not to let go of the only woman who had truly understood his loneliness and he and Camilla gradually began to be accepted as a couple by the ordinary people of this sceptred isle. Folk came to appreciate that Camilla was the rock that enabled Charles to cope with the pain of rejection he still felt from the parents who had never truly loved him. Charles once told me in private that Camilla completed him.

The wedding took place in Windsor and Camilla was so nervous she nearly didn’t get out of bed to get to the register office in time. But thanks to the reassurance I was able to give her that she would one day be seen as the greatest woman who ever lived, Camilla was able to get dressed and say: “I do.”

Since that day, Camilla and Charles have been inseparable, even though they live apart for much of the week. Camilla has become very busy doing charity work for several hours a week. And as for Charles? Well he’s now learned to relax so much he doesn’t even mind if the palace is a bit untidy.

Digested read, digested: The Duchess of Hearts."

John Crace, you wrote a brilliant piece!!  :thumbsup: (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/02/the-duchess-the-untold-story-by-penny-junor-digested-read-camilla-parker-bowles)


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 02, 2017, 07:35:04 pm
Enjoy so much seeing a journalist who does not kow tow to Junor, Charles and Camilla. Very refreshing


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 04, 2017, 05:21:16 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4664606/Royal-love-triangle-branded-posh-Jeremy-Kyle.html

Tossing the Queen under a bus talking about Charles "weird" upbringing.

Maybe Charles is just weird. What a fawning sycophant Junor is


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 15, 2017, 01:36:12 am
So Junor wrote more or less the same Diana bashing book that she did in 1998. Only more people spoke out against it.
Camilla and Charles do not deny collaboration with this new book.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/201521.stm


Junor must think people have short memories.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 15, 2017, 02:32:49 am
Even Charles never told her to wait for him; the BRF were condescendingly kind enough to attend her wedding, but they wouldn't welcome her as one of their own. Camilla was NEVER going to be considered good enough and frankly even now she's not considered good enough after all her treason. The Arabs and American elite might be forced to receive her, but clearly they rightly dislike her and wish she had had the decency to remain mistress or get lost.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 15, 2017, 03:28:45 am
To me, it doesn't look like the rest of the family have much of a problem with her. Maybe HM is at the point where she is just happy that Charles is happy and leaves it at that. Who knows?


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 15, 2017, 05:41:54 am
Camilla is past the age where she could possibly get pregnant. They didn't want her genes in their family and at the time of the marriage, the BRF had full control both ways. Both Harry and William were still young and unmarried (no one seriously thought William would come to this) and so they had William and Harry as hostages to good fortune and so basically everything looked rosy. Now go figure, they're at this impasse. Now that Charles is married to his 'true love,' it's impossible for Charles to remarry someone to provide heirs of the best possible lineage and for connections. This is usually why princes had as many heirs as they possibly could and then basically had more kids to fall back on in case the firstborn went wrong one way or another.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 15, 2017, 08:51:57 am
Charles blurting out that she was his mistress upset the apple cart. The PBs divorced and Camilla no longer was the "safe" "special friend" of the Prince of Wales. CHarles told all. Had he kept his mouth shut, he could have found a suitable second wife. The way he was eyeing Letizia perhaps he feels that he could have had the younger "suitable" wife and perhaps the "second family." Despite Charles saying he would not marry again ca. 1996, he more or less was stuck when he outed Camilla. He paid $$$ on her upkeep and PR and put his sons more or less on the backburner when he should have been making them his first priority. They were allowed to do what they pleased and WIlliam was allowed to drift during his twenties. I don't think the rest of his family really care much for Camilla but they put up with her. I don't think she ever was his "true love" Charles had to build up the fairy tale that she was his "soul mate." If she were he would have been like his Great Uncle and insisted on a marriage to her way back then.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: leogirl on July 15, 2017, 07:44:14 pm
Charles should have kept his mouth shut.

Marrying a mistress is in poor taste. Even with Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn, people would protest in the street and yell at him to go back to his wife.

If Camilla loved Charles I don't think she would have been dating Andrew Parker Bowles on/off since she was 18 and married him as soon as Charles was away. I think she wanted to be with APB.

Charles also had other mistresses besides Camilla so I don't really believe she was his 'great love' either.

 :thumbsdown:

ETA: I agree that the sons should have been first priority. This attitude of drifting in their twenties and thirties because they're going to work for the rest of their lives is stupid. Most people get their first job in their teens and work until they retire... and even post-retirement a lot of people get part time jobs these days. No excuse for being idle.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on July 15, 2017, 08:01:52 pm
Charles was always treated like a special snowflake (side eyes HM and the Queen Mum) and he let it go to his head.  Charles is and always will be all about Charles and to hell with everybody else.  Now I see where William gets it from.


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: sandy on July 20, 2017, 07:25:34 pm
Now Junor is playing victim. Well what did she expect?

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2017-07-18/the-duchess-untold-story-author-received-abuse-over-new-camilla-biography/


Title: Re: Camilla bio by Penny Junor
Post by: CathyJane on July 21, 2017, 04:03:50 am
Probably a Dame title if chucky ever takes the throne.