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Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 04, 2017, 03:13:12 am
The Daily Fail has just reported that an unusual emergency meeting of senior staff has been called at BP and servants in the Royal Household from as far away as Balmoral have been told to attend. They will be addressed by the Queen's Private Secretary and the Lord Chamberlain, who heads the Royal Household admin.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4471696/Royal-staff-called-London-emergency-meeting.html

If it's not about security or something important but routine then it is probably to do with the health of the Queen or Prince Philip, who is coming up to his 96th birthday in June. I may be completely wrong and I hope I am, but...!


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: LadyAva on May 04, 2017, 04:37:25 am
^ I am worried  :nervous:


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 04, 2017, 04:44:51 am
We don't know what's happening. All sorts of things are being reported on Twitter that are unconfirmed at the moment. # Buckingham Palace Twitter is trending at the moment! I do think that a meeting called in the middle of the night for all senior staff to attend is unusual, and if it is a health issue it may concern Prince Philip. However, if anything has happened there will probably be an official announcement at around 8am London time, and so I guess we have to wait.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: dianab on May 04, 2017, 04:58:18 am
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The Queen has always believed that Britain should be a republic and she is to announce that she will stand as a presidential candidate, knowing that all DM readers will vote for her. Long live President Windsor!


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Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 05:15:58 am
Apparently the French media are reporting that the Duke of Edinburgh has passed away, I don't think that would be true as BP hasn't said anything. I'm presuming that the people on twitter are just being twits because something is going on.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 04, 2017, 05:28:04 am
If the Duke has passed, we'll be finding out after we wake up; for all we know the French media might well be correct.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 06:05:26 am
I toight he did an engagement yesterday so I'm not sure. The press are apparently gathering for an announcement so somethings going on.   


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 04, 2017, 06:34:13 am
The comments in the DM are getting funnier by the minute; maybe HM is divorcing, abdicating, and then running off to Balmoral with one of her corgis.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 06:37:53 am
I nearly Choked on my weetabix reading a few. Apparently there are police everywhere by the palace. I have to admit I'm getting impatient. Something is happening....


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Alexandrine on May 04, 2017, 06:53:56 am
Woha I hope not.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 04, 2017, 07:08:40 am
I think something is happening though what Who knows. BBC regional staffers were reportedly called in about an hour ago. There should be an official announcement at around 8am-8-30 am London time if it is anything big. Unconfirmed Twitter reports that BBC staffers are being texted reminders about protocols in case of a royal death. But who knows. The Wessexes are out of the country. Charles has engagements in Scotland today.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Alexandrine on May 04, 2017, 07:11:24 am
Yep it seems that way. What a year for the UK.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 07:47:24 am
They are saying that the Queen and PP are ok so I really wonder what the heck is going on?


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 04, 2017, 07:52:36 am
The corgis have taken the palace hostage or the corgis have been kidnapped.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 07:57:52 am
Or Megan Merkel has staged a coup with the middletons to take over the palace!


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Alexandrine on May 04, 2017, 08:09:23 am
So a combination of the german president and meghan marckle?


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 08:11:00 am
^ sorry auto correct in my phone.  :tehe:


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Alexandrine on May 04, 2017, 09:03:24 am
If the meetint with May was 30 min longer it may not mean death but abdication or retiring.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Alexandrine on May 04, 2017, 10:04:24 am
It seems that Phillip is retiring.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 04, 2017, 10:07:06 am
Rebecca English @RE_DailyMail
Breaking: Prince Philip will stand down from public engagements with the support of the Queen

An announcement regarding The Duke of Edinburgh
https://www.royal.uk/announcement-regarding-duke-edinburgh


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 04, 2017, 10:20:58 am
Philip is 96 years old in June. There is a limit to human endurance and energy at that age. He's been a great support to the Queen since 1947 and has more than earned a rest from Royal duties. In spite of looking spy at Lords yesterday he may not be feeling so great on some days.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 04, 2017, 10:25:00 am
I suspect that this has been in the offing for some time. All they needed was the right time to make the announcement and given that the Queen meet with the PM yesterday it seems that the PM approved the timing.

This also means he is stepping down around the time that William is supposed to be moving to London to step up - again why I think the timing has been in the planning for some time and they were simply waiting the right time with regard to elections etc.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Snowpea on May 04, 2017, 01:38:19 pm
lol

Willy stepping up? I wonder if Katie will start working to pick up the slack?  :cookie:


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRHOlya on May 04, 2017, 01:41:50 pm
Prince Philip announces he is completely retiring from royal duties aged 95 after 70 years of sterling service to his Queen and country

    The Duke of Edinburgh announces his own retirement from royal duties after secret emergency meeting
    Prince Philip made decision himself and will step back as he and Queen reach 70-year wedding anniversary
    He has carried out more than 22,000 solo engagements since 1947 and given more than 5,000 speeches
    The Queen will continue public duties as she has always vowed to serve her country for as long as she lives
    Palace spokesman said: 'He will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this year. In taking this decision, The Duke has the full support of The Queen'
    All royal staff from across the UK, including Balmoral and Sandringham, were called to London to hear news
    It fuelled feverish rumours around the world about Queen or Prince Philip's health but both are 'fine'
    Royal couple were back to work an hour after announcement attending a church service at St James' Palace


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4472736/Prince-Philip-retire-royal-duties-95.html
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'I declare this thing open, whatever it is': The gaffe-prone Duke who often said what he shouldn't (although the public loved him for it)

    The Duke of Edinburgh has fondly become known for being the most gaffe-prone member of the Royal Family
    On Royal engagements over the years, he has often expressed uncensored and politically incorrect opinions
    After announcing he is to step down from Royal duties, we look at some of his risque, off-the-cuff remarks


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4472798/Prince-Philip-Upsetting-Chinese-men-goatees.html
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Seventy years and 22,191 engagements: How Prince Philip has been the Queen's 'rock' since their fairytale wedding, becoming one of the hardest working royals well into his 90s

    The Duke of Edinburgh is the longest-serving consort in British history
    Prince Philip, 95, is also the oldest serving partner of a reigning monarch
    He gave up a promising naval career to support his wife in her royal role
    Philip has always been one step behind while Queen takes centre stage


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4473052/Prince-Philip-Seventy-years-Majesty-s-rock.html
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A good thing, really. Everyone should be able to enjoy retirement and if not now, when? I am somewhat happy for him, that he takes a step back and enjoys the time he has left. At their age, they have been going for quite a long time, I have respect for that and admire that they made it to their age and seem to be so fit.
Regardless of anyone's feelings towards the monarchy, I think the Dutch and others do it right, when they abdicate after a while for the heir, so they get to enjoy their retirement and the heir can start without a heavy and sad cloud hanging over them.

Though what a fuss! I think they could have announced this with less frenzy..

^ Yeah the Cambs stepping up... I seriously doubt it, sorry. In one of the articles it was still pointed out how Phil outperformed the Cambs and Harry put together.. If they want to step up and step in for Phil, then they'll have to work their backsides off, something none of them want to do, esp after so much time of doing diddly squat and holidaying like crazy.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: india on May 04, 2017, 02:08:44 pm
Maybe they made such a big deal about this announcement to try and distract the public from The Dork Willy's and Council Cath's frivolous lawsuit in France.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: sandy on May 04, 2017, 02:39:58 pm
let's see if Will and Kate will come up with more pathetic excuses like the children needing them 24/7


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 03:27:43 pm
It's a shame the DM had to report the meeting the way they did. I have a feeling the royal reporters had an inkling as to what the meeting was about. I do wonder whether there are serious health issues that have forced him to completely retire. He, too me, doesn't seem the type and has the same sense of duty as the Queen.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 04, 2017, 04:17:05 pm
I don't understand why the formality and trouble of bussing in staffers from other royal estates to hear an announcement that is not a surprise to anyone????   Anyone else find this odd?     ???


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: YooperModerator on May 04, 2017, 04:30:17 pm
^I do.  I find it extremely odd.  If I had to place money on it, I'd say that the long/short-range plan is that PP is not well at all and this was the appropriate phase-down to allow him to allocate energies towards his health. 


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Little light on May 04, 2017, 04:30:31 pm
I also find it odd.

Now, I'm not as knowledgeable as many, in fact most on this forum, but would it not have been the case that the senior member of staff have a meeting of all of the staff of that particular house and inform them at that meeting? That way all royal staff would know, even if they worked for particular branches of the family.

It seems the way they would do it in the commercial world anyway. But for the Royal Household? I'm not sure, so yes.
It seems odd to me.


Having said that, would the BRF have told all of the staff of any health concerns of the DoE? I would find that strange, since frankly, it is none of their business? That's odd too.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: theduchess on May 04, 2017, 04:48:07 pm
It depends in what's wrong I suppose. I have wondered whether it was something that has been planned and the meeting was about how it will be happening with an announcement to stop leaks or whether something has been in the works for a while but something happened last night that forced their hand?


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 04, 2017, 04:58:33 pm
I just don't believe it had to do with Philip.  Who would be surprised if a 95-year-old passed away?  And if he is ill, neither would it be a surprise if he did not recover.   Such is the way of life.

I wonder if it has something to do with the estates themselves?   Maybe the queen has decided she is no longer able to travel to them after her illness last December, and they will be transitioned into tourist attractions for tours, etc.  This is the only thing that would really affect the staff.   And hasn't Charles said he wanted to cut down the number of royal estates?  Not sure about that, but it seems I have read it in the past.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 04, 2017, 04:59:35 pm
Must confess I find it very odd too  -  I think the way it has been announced, so suddenly, is very odd.  If it was all planned out etc then I dona´t think it would have been done in this way, and bringing all the staff down to London.  I agree with Little Light, about the head of each mansion/palace gather all the staff together and make the announcement, a couple of hours before the public announcement so that they are aware of what is happening once it goes public with the press.

I suppose time will tell, but I really do find it really, really odd.  Good for him if he is retiring, he is old, he has done well,  Not a fan of his, never have been, but still I think he should be able to retire like other people.  He must get tired, and has had some health issues/surgery in the last 10 years.  He looks like death warmed up at some engagements.  Nothing wrong or urgent about a sudden gathering/announcement abut that, not at all.   Very weird.  I do wonder if he had some sort of funny turn at some stage yesterday to bring this announcement forward, althugh he looks okay today, just never know do you.

I did catch sight of this comment on the internet, which I found quite interesting and I have read a few others along similar lines.  It has made me wonder if any truth in the camouflage timing re the France case, again, who knows.  Interesting comment though

A though has occurred to me. Perhaps PP is terminally ill and has been for a while but has managed to conceal it. They can no longer conceal this and it will soon become visible so he has decided to pack it in before that happens.

And of course timing it as it does ensures the France cour tcase gets kicked into the long grass...for a few days.

Astonishing that they brought in all the staff from across the UK though.


I do hope he gets some decent retirement time away from engagements, he has shown up the younger members of the rf big time with the amount of engatements he does, especially considering his age, he should have been retired years ago.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: india on May 04, 2017, 05:06:09 pm
He's probably so disgusted, disappointed and depressed with Willy and his nightmare wife and all they have done to bring about the destruction of the monarchy.


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 04, 2017, 05:46:44 pm
I think it's to present the more acceptable, duty and service to the Nation face of the RF and to distract from the Cambridges' venal, petty and spiteful court case against the French photographer.  The contrasts between PP and the indolent Cambridges are so strong that they must cause some degree of concern in the RF.  PP's retirement is a good way to take the press's ire away from the Cambridges for a day or so. '


Title: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRHOlya on May 04, 2017, 06:59:34 pm
'Sorry to hear you're standing down, sir.' 'Well I can't stand up much longer!' Prince Philip, 95, seals his retirement in typically humorous style as he prepares to end 70 years of royal duties

    The Duke of Edinburgh announces his own retirement from royal duties after secret emergency meeting
    Prince Philip made decision himself and will step back as he and Queen reach 70-year wedding anniversary
    He has carried out more than 22,000 solo engagements since 1947 and given more than 5,000 speeches
    The Queen will continue public duties as she has always vowed to serve her country for as long as she lives
    Palace spokesman said: 'He will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn. The Duke has the full support of The Queen'
    Royal couple were back to work an hour after announcement attending a church service at St James' Palace
    Sir Michael Atiyah told him: 'I'm sorry you're standing down' - Duke replied: 'Well I can't stand up much longer'
    All royal staff from across the UK, including Balmoral and Sandringham, were called to London to hear news
    It fuelled feverish rumours around the world about Queen and Prince Philip's health but both are 'fine'  


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4472736/Prince-Philip-retire-royal-duties-95.html
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I agree, there's sth odd going on for them having handled the announcement this way. I don't think the retirement came out of nowhere or over night, but I think that you are on to sth when saying it's a distraction from the ditzy duo and their French disaster.
For people who claim that they don't want fuss, they sure created a hell of a fuss. Carting in all the staff from all over the country suddenly, journos standing & waiting for ages...
India probably hit the nail on the head, Phil couldn't bear it any longer:

He's probably so disgusted, disappointed and depressed with Willy and his nightmare wife and all they have done to bring about the destruction of the monarchy.
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PS Here's a fun one

One's on Facebook! She's 91 but Royal author BRIAN HOEY reveals the Queen sends texts, has a smart phone and iPad - and even her own private social media account

    Queen's mobile is encrypted - and is said to be impossible to be hacked into
    Two people she most often speaks to on phone are her daughter, Princess Anne, and her racing manager, John Warren
    Royal mobile is kept fully charged at all times by Angela Kelly, the Queen’s personal assistant and senior dresser


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4471180/Queen-sends-texts-smart-phone-iPad.html
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Operation "Distraction from the useless gnasher and his flasher; and the ditzy ginger and his hungry divorcee" has been working well, at least today & for now. Can't make many of these over the whole trial period & "romantic courtship".


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 04, 2017, 07:51:40 pm
The way the Windsors acted you would have thought that someone had died; all they had to do was make a simple announcement.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: sandy on May 04, 2017, 08:08:07 pm
the Queen intervenes during extreme cases. She just allowed the embarrassing suit for $$$ by her grandson and his wife. Now unless she can pull strings behind the scenes, this travesty will take place. They will be very unpopular if they "win". This Prince Philip announcement will not obliterate the Cambridges story.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Val on May 04, 2017, 10:25:20 pm
They are always very naive with their PR and probably thought that dragging in the media from everywhere would take the focus of the lazy greedy duo's court case.  By thinking that they underestimated the public's perception and as usual it's a big fail as everyone is now questioning the necessity of doing it that way.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 04, 2017, 10:43:39 pm
I would have to agree with the others that think the way this was done smells fishy. Why cart everyone down to London  when this could have been announced to each post in a morning stand-up meeting? I would not be surprised if he's dealing with something terminal and this was their way of letting him fade into the background without anyone questioning what was going on.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: YooperModerator on May 04, 2017, 11:10:43 pm
^I agree.  I think there had to be preparations, health explanations and a plan put in place for his care.  Nothing else makes any sense to me.  For example and this is on a much smaller scale, of course, but when it came time to prepare for both my husband and mother's imminent death, I had to pull in the whole family, our co-workers, transportation, food, health-care providers, everybody to put things into place and it happened within a 24-hour period once the doctors made their pronouncement so that life, as we knew it, could continue on some sort of "normal" level.

It's a natural happening, really, at his age.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Little light on May 04, 2017, 11:22:46 pm
Now that announcement and the way it was announced, makes sense in the light of points you made.

 :sorry:

I'm very sorry for your losses too.  :flower:



Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: cate1949 on May 05, 2017, 12:20:22 am
I think we should consider that you have Palace staff whose families have worked for the royals for generations - so in a way it is extended family not to mention these are the people who have supported PP to do all his work in some way or another.  So the announcement at a staff meeting was a way of acknowledging that.

Also - the DM made it seem like it was some sort of dramatic emergency meeting when it was not - staff meetings like this - as the BBC noted - are not uncommon.  The drama was created by the DM not the BRF.

I think Prince Philip has the kind of dementia common to his age - we have heard and seen signs of forgetfulness and confusion over the last few years - understandable and expected at his age.  Perhaps it really has progressed to the point where he does not feel comfortable anymore making such lapses in public as well as the energy it must take for him to do these engagements. 

he has been fortunate - reached a grand old age with most of his faculties intact - a retirement is well deserved while he can enjoy it still. 

Harry has certainly been picking up his work schedule - bet we do see more output from Will at least once  he leaves the air ambulance officially. 



Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: YooperModerator on May 05, 2017, 12:36:03 am
^^That's sweet of you.  Thank you; wasn't looking for sympathy.  It's just the way Life works and it seems extremely obvious to me.  Time will tell but he doesn't have a ton of it left and this is a strategically planned system to begin the process of saying goodbye, in its own way.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: windsor2 on May 05, 2017, 01:34:46 am
He's probably so disgusted, disappointed and depressed with Willy and his nightmare wife and all they have done to bring about the destruction of the monarchy.
^so very true. Why should Phillip waste the time he has left to work for a dying monarchy. Best if he does his own thing and enjoy his cushy lifestyle before it comes crashing down.

They need someone like Olivia Pope, a crisis manger who doesn't pull punches and tells them the stone cold truth because this bs makes no sense. Andrew's the last person that should be the Queen's plus one. Wasn't their indication last year that she was rely on Harry to assist her?

Will Andrew be the Queen's new Plus One? Her Majesty's second son has emerged as a key figure in 'Team Windsor', writes ANDREW PIERCE, and the 'workshy' young royals will now be asked to step up
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The Queen’s second son has emerged – unexpectedly – as a key figure in what is now known informally at Buckingham Palace as ‘Team Windsor’. The move hints at subtle shifts in the axis of power at Buckingham Palace, with what some royal watchers are describing as the ‘rehabilitation’ of Prince Andrew.
The Mail can reveal that, after months of consultation and careful planning for yesterday’s momentous announcement, it is Andrew, the sixth in line to the throne, who will increasingly step into the breach to act as the Queen’s plus one.

:thumbsdown: ??? :o :-X :bored: :sob:
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Team Windsor rallies round: How the entire 'Firm' will step up to take on Prince Philip's duties as Duke of Edinburgh prepares to end 70 years of royal engagements

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Team Windsor's compiled of a very weak buch, save a few. Long live the queen because after she's gone, so goes the House of Windsor and the monarchy.
What's so dumb is that the younger set and even the queen's kids really didn't take into consideration their long-term goals into keeping the monarchy going after HM dies. They married very unsuitable people, treated a very suitable woman like Diana, who came from a old noble home, like crap, and seem to only want to indulge in the easy life at the tax payer's expense, like Wills.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: YooperModerator on May 05, 2017, 05:43:00 am
^How true.  No pickup team has ever appeared less prepared or adept to handle what's coming than this younger bunch.  They'll have to learn fast, I guess, or fail.  I have very little confidence in their longevity in active, lifelong dedication to their respective roles.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 05, 2017, 05:53:49 am
The younger royals are untrained and disorganized and borderline seditious in their lack of respect for HM; none of them will be of any use to anyone.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: cate1949 on May 05, 2017, 07:33:53 am
The DM loves to stir the pot and they know everyone dislikes Andrew and Meghan is no great favorite either.  So they run these sort of articles to get people's ire up and get the clicks -

The other papers are saying HM will be supported by "Team Windsor" - Anne, Charles, yes Andrew and Sophie and Ed - all will take turns accompanying her when it is called for.  So DM starting trouble as usual.

Yes Yooper - I've through it too - very hard but at least we had help facing it. 



Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 05, 2017, 08:41:35 am
This smells like a boatload of rotten fish...when was the last time staff were summoned  to BP from the Royal estates...not even when the Abdication was announced


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 05, 2017, 09:26:54 am
The senior staff from the royal estates are summoned - or met up - to BP at least three times a year and sometimes more often.

Normally though the public never even hears about it. That is the problem this time - the DM found out it was happening and made it into something it wasn't.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 05, 2017, 09:32:12 am
^^ Agree Marion, I smell a big rat.  If all these plans were in place etc then why the sudden urgency to call the meeting, and get them all down in London so fast, that is the interesting part.  Nah, that big fat rat smells rotten to me. All will come out in the wash eventually.  Interesting too that chucky and his siblings are first in line as "Team Windsor" to help out HM.  In truth, as the blithering, brain cell free idiots named bill medd and haza, are both in their early/mid thirties, they should be capable of stepping up, and they have proved, time and time again, that they are not capable or have the intelligence to do it.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 05, 2017, 11:55:36 am
^^^ Edward VIII had been on the throne barely 11 months and wasn't at all popular with his servants or the senior officials at Court. Philip has been Consort for as long as most of the people who staff the royal palaces today have been born. Court procedures and the administration of the Royal Household today bears little relationship to what happened in December 1936.
The staff were bussed up to BP as a courtesy gesture and no doubt other things such as the refit of BP and the storage of artifacts while the work is going on was discussed at the staff meeting as well. It was the DM, and Rebecca English gurgling on about 3 am meetings and emergencies, that sent Twitter into overdrive and talk of abdications and sudden deaths.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Val on May 05, 2017, 01:19:47 pm
Typical of comments everywhere

fisherman, hull, United Kingdom, 53 minutes from now
The drama of the announcement was purely orchestrated to keep the lazies' French court case off the front pages and divert everyone's attention
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Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: kolkomilko on May 05, 2017, 01:43:23 pm
^^^ Yes, I agree with you asking: why the sudden urgency to call the meeting, and get them all down in London so fast, if it's true? Because Philip's retirement? It is very strange.

^ Who knows, it's maybe true.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Miss Hathaway on May 05, 2017, 02:47:01 pm
I'm still skeptical.  The Queen is notoriously thrifty and to pay for bussing in this staff to make an announcement that could have been done by Skype is very, very odd, in my opinion.     :bored:

Well, if there's something more to it, it will surely leak out soon.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: dianab on May 05, 2017, 11:45:08 pm
Typical of comments everywhere

fisherman, hull, United Kingdom, 53 minutes from now
The drama of the announcement was purely orchestrated to keep the lazies' French court case off the front pages and divert everyone's attention
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Probably that. Or something suddenly happened to Philip.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 06, 2017, 01:09:44 am
^ The French court case has now been in recess while the judge considers his verdict, as far as I know, and that verdict could be weeks away. The judge wouldn't be chatting about it, so that DM comment is rubbish, IMHO.

Also, Philip isn't retiring as of this moment. He still has engagements booked for the rest of May, June and July, until he and the Queen go on holiday in August. He will probably be at the Queen's side when the Spanish State Visit occurs. So if anything has happened to Prince Philip physically or mentally it's strange that he was seen out with the Queen later that day and his projected engagements for the next three months still remain.

According to The Times, one of the most prestigious non tabloid newspapers in Britain with lots of links to the BRF and the Government, this 95 year old man has been feeling the physical strain of undertaking engagements for some time and told the Queen so at Easter. She immediately supported the decision he made to retire in August, which is when the couple go to Balmoral for their holidays. He will then be 96.

The Queen's children and grandchildren will accompany the Queen on some of her engagements from now on. Because Philip is taking the weekend of with friends in the North of England William co-hosted a meeting and lunch for a foreign dignitary yesterday.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 06, 2017, 02:11:28 am
The children and grandchildren have accompanied the Queen and Philip in the past. This isn't anything all that new e.g. Andrew accompanied the Queen to an engagement at Windsor a few weeks ago.

The engagement with William would have been in both their calendars for months.

Whether the announcement of Philip's retirement was timed to be the day before the joint engagement with William was deliberate or coincidental we will never know but what we do know is that William didn't suddenly get pulled into replace his grandfather as that isn't the way the royals work.

Philip did two engagements on his own on Wednesday and will still undertake solo and joint engagements with the Queen or others (he did one with Harry a few weeks ago as well) over the next three months and then we won't see much of him but I suspect we will see him on the 20th November, assuming there is a church service on that day or some other activity - their 70th wedding anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if he attends the State Banquet for President Trump but none of the other things he would normally do during a State Visit such as being at Horseguards for the official welcome.

In other words he will still support HM with events inside the palaces such as formal dinners, and family events outside the palaces such as commemorative church services, weddings etc.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: dianab on May 06, 2017, 03:31:29 am
^ The French court case has now been in recess while the judge considers his verdict, as far as I know, and that verdict could be weeks away. The judge wouldn't be chatting about it, so that DM comment is rubbish, IMHO.
the comment isnt about the judge ... but the bad publicity it is to William and Kate... makes sense to me... all this fuss happened to divert attention (bad headlines) ... the court case was all over place before this 'urgent meeting'


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 06, 2017, 04:18:13 am
^ But the court case had finished at that time. The judge had, and has, retired to consider his verdict, and that happened before the announcement of Prince Philip's retirement. There wouldn't have been anything for the media  to report in coming days about Will and Kate and the court case as the judge had already retired and wasn't going to chat about it.

 It was the DM story of early morning emergency meetings (which proved to be untrue) which brought about the tsunami on social media and foreign media outlets. If it hadn't been for that '3 am emergency meeting' false story from Rebecca English and the Daily Fail the announcement about Prince Philip would have been preceded and greeted with far less fuss.

When the court case resumes and the judge announces his verdict then there will undoubtedly be headlines again about William and Kate, and the nude photos. Prince Philip's retirement (which was apparently decided at Easter) and is already on record, won't be able to impact on that in any way so what would be the point of KP doing a diversionary tactic at that time? KP might act stupidly sometimes but they aren't responsible for Rebecca English and her trashy reports in her rag of a paper.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Val on May 06, 2017, 07:33:41 am
^^

Those close said it was a diversionary tactic and were very surprised at how something which could have been announced in a far less dramatic 'urgent' way was covered.   It's not as if he is retiring now but some months away in the Autumn.  As often reported QE's main objective is 'to keep the Monarchy up and running whatever it costs and whatever has to be done'.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 06, 2017, 07:57:05 am
Makes complete sense  Val...for the staff to be called from all the royal estates like this is ridiculous.  This decision wouldn't have been taken at short notice so plenty of time to plan properly without a load of drama. Anyway if PP still undertaking some engagements,  as some say,  then he's not really retiring !!

The judgment from the French court case is imminent so shove out some news that will keep people's attention diverted for a while... unfortunately for ER and TPTB we can see through the BS.



Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 06, 2017, 09:13:48 am
^^ and ^ Totally agree.  Smoke screens and mirrors as usual.  Sadly for the rf too many of the public now see right through their tactics and there is no going back.  The whole family appear to lie through their back teeth, doubt any of them would know the truth if it bopped them on the nose.

The announcement said he was retiring in the autumn  -  which begs the question  -  why the urgency of the meeting now, early May, and especially when he still has some engagements in the diary that he wants to fulfill.  It does not make sense  Also, why get all the staff down to London.  I doubt he knows that many of them in person, they would be beneath his notice.  They call it "The Firm".  If that is the case then why did they not brief the most senior person in each mansion/palace and they could then arrange for a staff meeting, all happening around the UK at 10 a.m. and tell them PP was retiring.  No surprise at all  -  at nearly 96 he would have been expected to retire earlier, and with his ill health in recent years many are surprised he is even still doing engagements.  Or, they could have arranged a confererence call for 10 a.m. with all staff gathered at their own location to be informed.  And to be honest, it was not even the queen announcing it, it was one of her lackeys.

I would think, possibly, that he had a funny turn, hence the "urgent" announcement, but as the old boy shot up to the north to spend time with friends then we can rule that one out.

Bill and cath medd took such a bashing in the press the other day, and then suddenly, oops, PP is retiring  -  yeah right, and then taxayers forking out for all this getting them down to London  -  amazing how they can be so generous when it is not their money they are wasting.  In this day and age video conference meetings take place world wide, this was only the UK for goodness sake.

Of course he is going to die, and of course they want to lead up to it, but he has been an old man for quite a few years now, so again, why the sudden urgency.  My first thought was a smoke screen for bill medd and council cath, and nothing has occurred to make me think otherwise.  Yes, phasing out, urgent meeting to announce it  -  ridiculous.  Especially when basically, from the look of him these days, it is expected that he would not be able to continue engagements for much longer.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 06, 2017, 10:49:29 am
There was no 'urgent' or 'emergency' meeting. There was a meeting, which happens a few times a year and the DM got wind of that meeting and blew it out of all proportions sending everyone into a frenzy.

Had the DM not made such a fuss the meeting would still have happened - so that the staff were told in person and not via some other means - but without all the carry-on that resulted from the use of words such as 'emergency meeting' and it being called at 3.00 a.m. - which it wasn't. It had been called earlier than that and most of the staff were already either in place or well on the way by the time the DM made their 'emergency meeting' story.

There is nothing sinister in this. There was no conspiracy. There was simply a regular meeting taking place for a specified reason/s - we actually don't know what else was discussed at the meeting and there was (from my sources I believe) more than just Philip's retirement.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 06, 2017, 01:54:36 pm
^^As you say autumn's several months off so why all the fuss and urgency. Maybe this has been announced this way is to force Willy to step up and do some real work.  Trouble is even when he dies turn up he looks do bored as if he'd feat rather be somewhere else ....not an asset to the RF in any shape or form.  None of us know what was it wasn't discussed at the meeting but it was very conveniently timed to reflect from the French court case.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: dianab on May 06, 2017, 03:37:41 pm
Makes complete sense  Val...for the staff to be called from all the royal estates like this is ridiculous.  This decision wouldn't have been taken at short notice so plenty of time to plan properly without a load of drama. Anyway if PP still undertaking some engagements,  as some say,  then he's not really retiring !!

The judgment from the French court case is imminent so shove out some news that will keep people's attention diverted for a while... unfortunately for ER and TPTB we can see through the BS.



^^ and ^ Totally agree.  Smoke screens and mirrors as usual.  Sadly for the rf too many of the public now see right through their tactics and there is no going back.  The whole family appear to lie through their back teeth, doubt any of them would know the truth if it bopped them on the nose.

The announcement said he was retiring in the autumn  -  which begs the question  -  why the urgency of the meeting now, early May, and especially when he still has some engagements in the diary that he wants to fulfill.  It does not make sense  Also, why get all the staff down to London.  I doubt he knows that many of them in person, they would be beneath his notice.  They call it "The Firm".  If that is the case then why did they not brief the most senior person in each mansion/palace and they could then arrange for a staff meeting, all happening around the UK at 10 a.m. and tell them PP was retiring.  No surprise at all  -  at nearly 96 he would have been expected to retire earlier, and with his ill health in recent years many are surprised he is even still doing engagements.  Or, they could have arranged a confererence call for 10 a.m. with all staff gathered at their own location to be informed.  And to be honest, it was not even the queen announcing it, it was one of her lackeys.

I would think, possibly, that he had a funny turn, hence the "urgent" announcement, but as the old boy shot up to the north to spend time with friends then we can rule that one out.

Bill and cath medd took such a bashing in the press the other day, and then suddenly, oops, PP is retiring  -  yeah right, and then taxayers forking out for all this getting them down to London  -  amazing how they can be so generous when it is not their money they are wasting.  In this day and age video conference meetings take place world wide, this was only the UK for goodness sake.

Of course he is going to die, and of course they want to lead up to it, but he has been an old man for quite a few years now, so again, why the sudden urgency.  My first thought was a smoke screen for bill medd and council cath, and nothing has occurred to make me think otherwise.  Yes, phasing out, urgent meeting to announce it  -  ridiculous.  Especially when basically, from the look of him these days, it is expected that he would not be able to continue engagements for much longer.

Exactly!


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: sandy on May 06, 2017, 03:51:54 pm
It would be great if the smokescreen did not work and William and Kate lose the case and have to pony up money to pay for the lawsuit from HIS own money.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: india on May 06, 2017, 07:59:54 pm
Willy Woo Woo The Petulant Prince and his Exhibitionist Slattern Wife should pay for their own lawsuits period.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 07, 2017, 08:26:22 am
The Lord Chamberlain called staff to the emergency meeting on Thursday morning  by email. So bad were the arrangements  of this that some staff missed it altogether as they were stuck in traffic on the M4 motorway. This was definitely not a well thought out announcement planned in advance but, as more and more are saying, a  last minute idea. Hardly a ringing  endorsement of his competence. Added to which, the cack-handed way this announcement was made has upset many including  the Australians... isn't  the Commonwealth going to become even more when we leave the EU  yet the RF can't even get this right and upset the very people whose goodwill will be vital in government negotiations. Heaven help us if there is a real emergency. Thisot couldn't arrange a knees-up in a brewery.

One palace insider said it was "unprecedented to call a mass rally of staff merely to say a man £1 years above the normal pension age was you g to take it easier in the autumn"

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/aussie-monarchists-take-earl-to-task/news-story/cd86359c7edab484cf5d17a9289570e5

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4480626/On-Majesty-s-secret-service.html


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 07, 2017, 08:30:27 am
As of late it's as if the BRF has had problems pulling itself together and running as smoothly as they used to; a mix-up in regards to getting them through traffic while hyping up an upcoming announcement, only for it to be that Prince Philip is retiring and not dying.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 07, 2017, 08:36:11 am
If the announcement had been planned ahead, as some assert,  then noone would have been  stuck in traffic as journeys would have been planned ahead and everyone would have made sure they were at BP on time. Anyone living in the UK knows motorways are busy during the rush hour


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Val on May 07, 2017, 08:49:08 am
^

Just confirms what everyone is now saying ie that it was an obvious damage limitation move to drag the media to BP and away from the French court and reportings over there of Waity's topless display.   Some foreign rags even daring to say it was a shame it wasn't a sniper.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 07, 2017, 10:09:37 am
My information is that staff were told on the Wednesday to be at BP for a 10.00 a.m. meeting.

That some left it late too leave their homes is down to them as all were given plenty of time to get there - at least 17 hours.

It wasn't some 'emergency meeting' called at 3.00 a.m. that is implied in the DM's article.

The meeting also covered more than Philip's retirement (or so I have been told - not what else was discussed but simply that other things were discussed). I have also been told that this happens 2 - 3 times every year with the same time frame - given a time and place within about 24 hours to be at BP.

The whole issue is that the DM got wind of the meeting and made it into something where there was nothing all that urgent. They don't usually get wind of these meetings and they do happen more often than we are told.

Had the DM not got wind of this meeting then we would have been none the wiser.

As for Britain worrying about trade with the Commonwealth after Brexit - they already know they need good deals for any Commonwealth territories having turned their back on the Commonwealth/Empire to enter the EU in the first place.

The press speculation will happen over and over again as any whisper is going to get out and yet we have been told that any death between 10.00 p.m. and 8.00 a.m. will be made at 8.00 a.m. Sadly this means that there will very likely be more of these sorts of speculations as they aren't going to make the announcement during the night but they do inform the other realms PM - as our Acting PM made clear on Thursday when he said before 5.00 our time (8.00 a.m. London) that there was nothing to worry about and he had already been informed of the news as is the protocol.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Val on May 07, 2017, 10:51:34 am
^^^^^

Interesting article marion, thanks for posting.  Apparently it's only one of many and the palace are being asked many questions.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: marion on May 07, 2017, 11:52:45 am
Exact Val. It's one thing trying to deflect from bad news is french case but quite another upsetting countries our government is trying to negotiate witb


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 07, 2017, 01:45:51 pm
^and ^^  I agree.  All very odd.   For me the thing that makes it even more odd is that he is fulfilling engagements until the autumn, when he retires, which is 5 months away. So what was the overnight rush to call all staff to London. As I said previously, as they so like to call themselves "The Firm", then firms do not behave like that.  It is not state secret that the old boy is 96 this year, looks frail and ill, and is overdue to retire, so no great shock to anyone, let alone the staff.  A firm with office around the UK would get the staff gathered in large rooms and there would be a conference call, they do not bus in their staff to say their President, or whatever, is stepping down because he is nearly 96 and frail.  Not even as if HM made the announcement, it was one of her minions.  It could all have been done via conference call and nobody would have been inconvenienced.  The taxpayer money spent on their transportation could have gone to beter use, can think of the struggling NHS for one, and there are hundreds of other uses for that money.  Well seen they did not use their own money for it, they never do.  If they think they can cover up the disgusting French debacle then they are sadly mistaken, that is not going away, no matter who retires.  Let him retire in peace for what time he has left, suit himself and get on with it.  No need for all ther urgency and fanfare.  I also find it incredible that they expect us to think that they suddenly decided he was going to retire in 5 months and and boom, immediately call an urgent meeting to let the staff and public know.  Utterly ridiculous from start to finish.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 07, 2017, 02:30:15 pm
^ Prince Philip will be retiring from the time he and the Queen go to Balmoral for their summer holidays in August. That is about three months from now. Five months would make it October before he retired.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: kolkomilko on May 07, 2017, 02:43:17 pm
What if the question was about other announcement and his retiring was only the official one for the publicity? Just asking.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 07, 2017, 03:54:33 pm
It was announced that he would be retiring/stepping down in the autumn, as told by The Telegraph  -  maybe they got it wrong, but I also heard it on the news as well, several times :thankyou:.  Based on that it would appear that his official retirement commences in the autumn, which is 5 months away.

Prince Philip retires: Queen's husband to step down from public life in autumn, Buckingham Palace announces

Prince Philip, who is 95, will no longer carry out public engagements from the autumn of this year, Buckingham Palace has announced.

Prince Philip will attend previously scheduled engagements between now and August, both individually and accompanying The Queen.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/04/buckingham-palace-summons-entire-royal-household-emergency-meeting/


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 07, 2017, 11:10:39 pm
If the announcement had been planned ahead, as some assert,  then noone would have been  stuck in traffic as journeys would have been planned ahead and everyone would have made sure they were at BP on time. Anyone living in the UK knows motorways are busy during the rush hour


It also wouldn't have sent the press on both sides of the pond into a frenzy.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Rosella on May 07, 2017, 11:28:28 pm
^ It was Rebecca English and her stupid speculative report in the Daily Fail that sent Twitter off into a frenzy, followed soon afterwards by foreign news outlets. I didn't see the BBC people rushing around like chooks with their heads cut off.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: meememe on May 07, 2017, 11:40:32 pm
They call these meetings a number of times every year.

What caused the frenzy was the way the DM reported it - not that the meeting was called at all.

The DM decided it was an 'emergency meeting' - which it wasn't. It was a regular meeting that they have a couple of times every year.

The blame doesn't lie with The Royal Family but with the DM who decided to create a storm with an 'exclusive' about an 'emergency meeting' claiming it was called at 3.00 a.m. which it wasn't.



Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRHOlya on May 09, 2017, 06:47:23 pm
'He was very randy': Prince Phillip's former naval colleague reveals secrets of the Duke's younger years at his latest appearance since announcing his retirement from public duties

    The Queen and Duke celebrated the 100th anniversary of Pangbourne College
    College in Berkshire has a long association with the monarch
    Last week, Prince Philip announced he will be retiring in the Autumn


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4487498/Prince-Philip-joins-Queen-school-visit.html

I guess we now know where Randy Andy got it from?

This is rather sweet:

"When reunited with his old colleague the duke was presented with a letter of thanks he had written to Mr Evans after he had congratulated him on his engagement to the Queen"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/09/15/4021DB3D00000578-4487498-image-a-84_1494340589913.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/09/15/4021DBB700000578-4487498-image-a-86_1494340625953.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/09/15/4021E5DD00000578-4487498-image-a-87_1494340636003.jpg


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Tatiana on May 09, 2017, 10:39:31 pm
  Those in the know are saying Philip is not interested in interacting with Meghan.  I have now heard that from 5 sources.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 14, 2017, 03:27:31 am
^I'm not at all surprised by that.


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRHOlya on August 02, 2017, 03:46:54 pm
Philip bows out: Duke of Edinburgh, 96, arrives at Buckingham Palace for his 22,220th - and LAST - official public engagement

    Prince Philip made decision himself and will step back as he and Queen reach 70-year wedding anniversary
    He's now carried out 22,220 solo engagements since 1947, done 637 foreign visits and given 5,496 speeches
    The Queen will continue public duties as she has always vowed to serve her country for as long as she lives
    Philip's decision to stap back was fully supported by the Queen and was not related to his health


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4752644/Prince-Philip-arrives-public-engagement.html


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 02, 2017, 07:26:43 pm
Prince Philip carries out final official engagement - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAqi3HaoPHs


Title: Re: Prince Phillip is retiring
Post by: HRHOlya on August 02, 2017, 09:12:17 pm
Sealed with a quip: As Prince Philip bows out in inimitable style, a look back at his best-loved gaffes

    Prince Philip is known for being the most gaffe-prone Royal Family member
    At times witty, at other times, insensitive, he is not shy of expressing his opinions
    He announced retirement in May, after completing 22,000 solo appearances
    He made his final solo appearance on Wednesday to meet with Royal Marines


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4754390/Prince-Philip-s-best-loved-gaffes-attends-event.html

Some of these are pretty funny!