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Title: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Tatiana on January 27, 2017, 03:21:10 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4162372/Prince-Charles-wrote-padeophile-bishop.html

Disgraced bishop Peter Ball reneged on a deal to move abroad to escape prosecution in 1993, and instead rented a house from the estate of his ‘friend’ Prince Charles.
The cleric told police he would live with nuns in France in return for receiving the caution as part of an alleged agreement with a ‘sympathetic’ detective who wanted to help the church avoid the scandal of a criminal trial.




Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on July 19, 2018, 02:33:24 pm
Prince Charles is to give evidence at child sex abuse inquiry into handling of allegations made against disgraced ex-bishop Peter Ball

    A written statement from Prince Charles will be read out at the inquiry tomorrow
    Ball, who has boasted of being a confidant of Charles, was jailed in October 2015
    Former Bishop of Lewes had sexually abused 18 young men over three decades
    He was released in February last year after serving half his sentence behind bars

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5970545/Prince-Charles-evidence-child-sex-abuse-inquiry.html


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: dianab on July 19, 2018, 09:59:37 pm
interesting charles trust in guys like Ball and Saville when he hero-worshipped Mountbatten (who introduced Saville to the royals) well-known for his liking of little boys... wonder what freud would think of that?


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: CathyJane on July 20, 2018, 03:15:55 am
Chucky is an idiot


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 20, 2018, 04:05:04 am
Well, well, well.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Rosella on July 20, 2018, 04:29:54 am
Blow just statements being read out. I think Charles should be called in person to this Inquiry to face questioning about why he backed Ball to the hilt, giving him refuge even after serious questions were raised about this man's behaviour.

Charles has THE worst judgement about people of practically anyone I can think of in public life. Others were fooled by Saville but then you get van der Post, Armand Hammer and this fellow as friends and mentors of Charles, probably because they were great in telling him what a fantastic intellect he has!


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: marion on July 20, 2018, 11:31:21 am
In some legal scenarios statements are not admissable unless the person making that statement is willing to be cross examined. Should definitely apply here but we all know many in high places  have been getting away with dreadful things


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Fly on the wall on July 24, 2018, 07:38:48 pm
Concern' over Prince Charles's abuse inquiry letter


A lawyer has voiced concern that the Prince of Wales is being treated differently from other witnesses at an investigation into child sexual abuse.

Richard Scorer said there was "surprise and concern" the prince did not have to provide a formal witness statement.

The inquiry into how allegations against former bishop Peter Ball were handled heard a letter from the prince would instead be read out on Friday.

The ex-Bishop of Lewes and Gloucester was jailed in 2015 for sex offences.

Ball, who was Bishop of Lewes, in East Sussex, between 1977 and 1992 and Bishop of Gloucester from 1992 until his resignation the following year, admitted a series of offences between the 1970s and 1990s against 18 teenage boys and young men at a trial in October 2015.

He was released from prison in February 2017, having served half his sentence.

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) is focusing this week on how allegations against Ball were dealt with by the Church of England and other authorities.

Statement of truth

Mr Scorer, who represents some of Ball's victims, questioned the status of the prince's evidence, suggesting it might be "less than entirely frank about his personal relationship with Peter Ball".

He said unlike the more usual witness statement, a letter was not verified by a "statement of truth" - regarded as the equivalent of swearing an oath.

But the hearing was told that the final line of Prince Charles's letter - making clear that the information was true - was considered by the inquiry to comply with the requirements of a statement of truth.

Counsel to the inquiry, Fiona Scolding QC, said the prince's lawyers had argued that the inquiry had no power to compel him to submit a statement.

But she said that after discussions, it was agreed that the prince would provide a signed statement that would cover all the topics that needed to be addressed.

Prof Alexis Jay, who chairs IICSA, announced at the start of the hearing in London that the inquiry would be investigating a leak of Prince Charles's statement after details were reported in the media last week.

She said the leak was "a very serious breach of confidence" perpetrated by "someone with direct access to information in this investigation".
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-44924297


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 24, 2018, 10:18:38 pm
^It was only a matter of time.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: dianab on July 25, 2018, 02:16:22 am
Prince Charles REFUSES to give formal statement to Peter Ball child sex abuse inquiry
PRINCE Charles has refused to provide a formal witness statement to a child sex abuse inquiry by using human rights law, lawyers told a hearing on Monday.
By MATT DRAKE
PUBLISHED: 04:39, Tue, Jul 24, 2018 | UPDATED: 05:28, Tue, Jul 24, 2018
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/993301/prince-charles-peter-ball-sex-abuse-inquiry-royal-news

Prince Charles' lawyers say he did not have to give evidence to child abuse inquiry over his friendship with disgraced alleged alleged paedophile bishop
-Prince Charles's lawyers say he could not be compelled to talk about Peter Ball
-Inquiry is examining how abuse allegations against former bishop were handled
-Ball was jailed in 2015 for sexually abusing 18 young men over 30 years
-He had boasted of his links to royalty and was said to be a confidant of Charles
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5982755/Prince-Charles-lawyers-say-did-not-evidence-inquiry-alleged alleged paedophile-bishop.html

Chucky is an idiot
much worse than that IMO... it's not about naivete or bad judgement... but not care about actions of certain people he got so close and thought so highly of, even certain things became public


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on July 28, 2018, 02:23:44 pm
Charles and the pervert: Prince tells child sex abuse inquiry he was 'deceived' by bishop Peter Ball but says he cannot remember who he was referring to when he said 'I will see off this horrid man' in letter to disgraced clergyman 21 years ago

    Prince Charles denied he tried to influence an investigation into Peter Ball
    The royal gave written evidence at a sex child abuse inquiry on Friday
    Ball, the former Bishop of Lewes, sexually abused 18 men during '80s and '90s

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5999031/Prince-Charles-reveals-Bishop-Ball-told-quit-job-indiscretion.html


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Little light on July 28, 2018, 10:56:52 pm
Diana was said to call Charles "the great white hope" or "the boy wonder" with tongue firmly in cheek, no doubt.

He really isn't very bright if he cannot or will not understand what a legal caution means.

And to think he is  going to be monarch and head of state too! Question should must be asked if he is fit to lead country/countries if he cannot even understand the law he is meant to uphold.

No wonder Diana said in thta Panorama interview that she "knew the character" and didn't think he was up to the 'top job' as she put it. Or words to that effect. (Now I know she did prefer William take on the job, but he's as useful as a chocolate fireguard, IMHO).

But seriously, there must be discussion by the press whether he should be head of state.



Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Val on July 29, 2018, 02:44:07 pm
Whatever, the Queen will intervene and quash all allegations.  Questions are being asked now as to whether she has intervened in the Pips’s father in law’s supposedly *nasty* allegations.  It’s about time the RF were stripped of the powers to do this.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: india on July 29, 2018, 03:30:02 pm
Absolutely Val. It is beyond disgusting that paedophiles have been protected throughout the years. I wonder how HM would feel if one of her grandchildren had been subjected to such heinousness. God Only Knows what HM has intervened and covered up.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: marion on July 29, 2018, 03:32:10 pm
ITA Val.  They don't deserve and respect any more. There is no way I would ever curtsey to any of them, except maybe the Cajun curtsey


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: dianab on July 29, 2018, 09:09:04 pm
Diana was said to call Charles "the great white hope" or "the boy wonder" with tongue firmly in cheek, no doubt.

He really isn't very bright if he cannot or will not understand what a legal caution means.

And to think he is  going to be monarch and head of state too! Question should must be asked if he is fit to lead country/countries if he cannot even understand the law he is meant to uphold.

No wonder Diana said in thta Panorama interview that she "knew the character" and didn't think he was up to the 'top job' as she put it. Or words to that effect. (Now I know she did prefer William take on the job, but he's as useful as a chocolate fireguard, IMHO).

But seriously, there must be discussion by the press whether he should be head of state.



i dont doubt diana had found out about saville and loyalty of bbc to him during the war of waleses... in same she found out about the several children out of marriage of old phil

Absolutely Val. It is beyond disgusting that paedophiles have been protected throughout the years. I wonder how HM would feel if one of her grandchildren had been subjected to such heinousness. God Only Knows what HM has intervened and covered up.
i bet she'll care more if it was her corgis and horses.

BTW this P Ball man and saville should knows lots of stuff the whole Establishment (who loathed Diana for Morton book and later even more because Panorama interview) rallied around them :stop:


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: india on July 29, 2018, 10:18:46 pm
It is time The Establishment is exposed for what they truly are. And it is time for all those who protected them to be exposed. The piper wants to be paid.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 12:00:16 am
^ Indeed.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Alexandrine on July 30, 2018, 07:53:21 pm
I wonder does mi5 work or something??


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 09:13:26 pm
^ Excellent question. Might be the question of the decade. We all know about the establishment, grey men, MI5, 6 etc, "they know everything" yadda yadda, and I really don't know what this proves. They're all in on it? They don't actually know what's going on? All inept? How are these associations allowed? For crying out loud, Chuck has a whole ring of pe*dos around him! Jimmy S., this bishop and there are more. In the family rumoured too.



Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Alexandrine on July 30, 2018, 10:04:26 pm
Yeah I dont get it. Is he so dumb he doesnt listen to secret service? Dont they do anything to stop him? The queen?


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on July 30, 2018, 10:12:26 pm
^ Exactly. It's so weird. I don't get it either, at all.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: Joanna on July 31, 2018, 10:44:42 am
^Perhaps there are so many powers in the shadows that are involved that they don't want to mess up the established order.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 31, 2018, 04:46:52 pm
^That's definitely a possibility.


Title: Re: Yet another friend of Charles is an alleged alleged alleged alleged alleged alleged pedophile.
Post by: HRHOlya on August 09, 2018, 05:12:00 pm
How Charles wrote letter of support to abuse bishop

PRINCE Charles wrote to a disgraced bishop who sexually abused young men to say he would “see off” one of his critics, it emerged yesterday. The heir supported local bishop Peter Ball, Bishop of Gloucester, after he accepted a caution for gross indecency against trainee monk Neil Todd in 1993.

[...]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/995426/prince-charles-letter-bishop-of-gloucester-indecency-trial (https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/995426/prince-charles-letter-bishop-of-gloucester-indecency-trial)



Prince Charles rued 'monstrous wrongs' against bishop later convicted of abuse

Child abuse inquiry hears prince told Peter Ball in 1995: ‘I wish I could do more’

[...]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/27/prince-charles-rued-monstrous-wrongs-against-bishop-later-convicted-of-abuse (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/27/prince-charles-rued-monstrous-wrongs-against-bishop-later-convicted-of-abuse)



Prince Charles was 'deceived' by p*edophile bishop friend, child abuse inquiry to hear

The Prince of Wales will tell a child sexual abuse inquiry he was "deceived" by disgraced bishop Peter Ball - and that he was unaware of the true nature of the alleged alleged alleged alleged paedophile clergyman's behaviour until more than 20 years after allegations first surfaced.

A written statement from Charles will be read on July 27 during the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) investigation, as it examines how allegations against the former Church of England bishop - a friend of the prince - were handled.

Now 86, the former bishop of Lewes and then Gloucester was jailed for 32 months in October 2015 for sexually abusing 18 young men over 30 years. He was released in February last year after serving half his sentence in prison.

[...]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/20/prince-charleswas-deceived-alleged paedophile-bishop-friendchild-abuse/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/20/prince-charleswas-deceived-alleged paedophile-bishop-friendchild-abuse/)

PS The last link doesn't work, even though I hyperlinked it. If you want to read the article, you have to add a " - " between "alleged" and "p*edophile" in the link (copy & paste, add the hyphen in the mentioned space between the words and you'll get there)
( https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/20/prince-charleswas-deceived-p*edophile-bishop-friendchild-abuse/
or copy & paste this one and replace the asterisk with an "a")