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Title: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Tatiana on January 24, 2017, 03:54:46 am

    I am hearing and seeing much more negativity towards Harry than in 2015.   Does anyone agree or disagree. ? 

      YES  or  NO  answer is fine.   Thank You.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: AmusedByTheRoyals on January 24, 2017, 04:27:42 am
Based on comments I've seen yes.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on January 24, 2017, 04:40:09 am
^^ There's certainly negativity towards him in Twitter and Tumblr circles etc, and we know why! It's also a result of both Harry and  the fandom that grew up with him growing older, IMO.

There's negativity towards all members of the RF at the moment among the individuals who vent on the DM online (some of whom include bloggers etc). Anything sets them off. People are feeling annoyed about all sorts of things in Britain nowadays. The Brexit result was one expression of it. It's not just Harry. Charles, William, Kate, Camilla get it in the neck as well. Since I regard the DM rabble as the 21st century equivalent of the howling mobs of previous centuries I don't pay any attention to them.

It's debatable as to whether Harry has lost popularity in the UK as a whole. The vast majority aren't that concerned about the lives of the royals. The last poll taken a month or so ago showed the popularity of the monarchy as a whole was still remaining high. They didn't ask about the majority of individual members of the BRF. So we don't know.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on January 24, 2017, 04:45:09 am
Definitely.  Once he released that Statement of Doom, it was all downhill from there.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on January 24, 2017, 05:37:39 am
The thing about polls is that they're very easy to manipulate in order to fit one's agenda. Choose whom to ask and how to phrase questions in order to get the results needed for the story.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on January 24, 2017, 06:03:29 am
^ Yes they can. However the most reputable and reliable polling companies (YouGov, for example) try to be as neutral and unbiased as possible for the sake of their own reputations. What is the alternative? Jump to the conclusion that because Blogs and Forums are outraged about Meghan at the moment and the DM commentators are on the rampage more than usual, that the entire population of the U.K. has turned against Harry and indeed the BRF? That's absurd, and  anecdotal evidence at its most unreliable, IMHO.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2017, 07:26:34 am
Thing is, that we live in troubled times and during troubled times, people don't have patience for any leaders messing around. Harry is behaving like it's the 90's when people were able to get solid jobs/careers and live comfortably and not fear losing homes/health and dying at the hands of crazy terrorists. Harry is slacking off and frankly no one has patience for someone skipping out on work in their thirties.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on January 24, 2017, 07:38:15 am
^^ Obviously, most people don't comment on forums or the DM or there would be a lot more posts/comments. But I don't believe the RF is as popular as they want us to think. I think most people are neutral or have a slight dislike but not enough to do anything drastic at this time. I don't think most people like them.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2017, 08:15:35 am
Thing is, people thought Harry was a better person, more decent and focused and leadership material than his brother, less of a waste than his uncle. It has now been made clear that Harry is just as bad, if not worse. A lot of people are disillusioned and disillusioned people are dangerous. For a while, everyone thought Harry would have the ability to be there for the nation and care about the nation and now go figure, Harry is seen as weak as William. His skirt chasing is old and frankly people are looking at him with the same contempt as one would anyone who refuses to stop partying. He's like the cool dude in high school who refuses to stop bumming around and refuses to stop trying to drag others into his constant drama.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on January 24, 2017, 09:13:31 am
Yes, his actions and choice of women are very high school. Very unattractive in a 30-something.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2017, 09:30:20 am
An entire generation has grown up beside Harry and seen him grow up as they've grown; by now, Harry should in fact be more mature, even if he isn't married. There's nothing wrong with being single or even playing the field, but there is something wrong with being sexually irresponsible. He's being irresponsible and playing with fire by running with Meg and the Yorkie's crowd. There is a sense of frustration that Harry is basically buggering around while his peers are living more stable lives, or are at least not being two-faced about enjoying life's pleasures and self indulgence. Same time, Harry is supported by the taxpayer and he's not working and he's not even TRYING to get himself together.

Harry is kind of like Fergie, enjoying the party life on the taxpayer dime and giving the finger to those who can't party, but have to work twice as hard to get at least halfway out of the street.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: rosielinks on January 24, 2017, 12:50:59 pm
People like Harry because he has natural charm with children, old people, the disabled and well, everybody really. He reminds people of all the best bits of his mother.

However, if he ends up married to someone like MM - he will be pushing his luck. The public wants someone sincere, hard-working and warm.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Tatiana on February 04, 2017, 02:08:37 am
  I agree Rosie.   


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: AmusedByTheRoyals on February 04, 2017, 05:22:10 pm
Keeping it simple - Yes


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 04, 2017, 06:25:33 pm
I have no faith in YouGov polls, they have been found to be wrong on many occasions.  As someone said above, phrase the questions correctly, ask the right people and you get the response you want to the poll.

So many people I know, in my life and what I read on the internet, are totally disgusted with haza and all have the same view  -  he has showed a side of himself that he kept well hidden, or the press kept well hidden for him.  It turns out he is just as useless and lazy as his brother. The engagements he carries out, not exactly hard are they. The sorting ones and Invictus Games etc he does because he liked them.  The question to be asked is  - what does he do in between time?  Well, we now have a very fair idea of that don´t we.  For many he really has shown his true colours  -  which turn out to be murking and most unpleasant.

Yes, IMO his popularity has decreased big time.  I have been amazed at all the negativity there is about him.  If he marries markle he will seal his fate, and I hope he does.  Sorry to say Diana did not spawn two golden boys, she spawned two tainted, lazy, good for nothings. Such a shame. 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 04, 2017, 07:43:31 pm
The real problem is and always will be how they view life as one big party. Oligarchs and billionaires party and have luxuries, but they work like fiends and take huge risks. The princes are basically being coddled while at the same time, basically no different than other upscale grifters or groupies.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: marion on February 05, 2017, 04:43:53 am
^^ITA GB Harry has the charm willy lacks which used to win people over but now many are beginning to see through this.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Val on February 05, 2017, 08:06:14 am
^^^

Good post and yes Sheridan_is_appalled, definitely all down hill and fast since the Statement of Doom.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Stormborn on February 05, 2017, 08:58:53 am
It's almost like, somehow, the Invictus Games has done more harm than good. Before the Orlando extravaganza, you can still see him bashful and insistent in keeping it all about his causes. Throughout his initiatives with Walking With the Wounded, WellChild, and other activities, there was still a sense of the down to earth younger brother finally coming to his own, finally growing comfortable outside big bro's clout (yeah right) and shadow.

It's like the hype has gone straight up to his brain and thinking about it now, I can almost visualize him going, "Right, what's going to take this to another level is if I find an Amal. Wait 'til I out her to the public, I bet they'll love me even more! And then they'll love her, too!"  :Pippa:

Uh. Nope. Lol.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 05, 2017, 11:55:23 am
Fully agree.

The Invictus Games put him on the world stage and now he was riding high and he can't seem to handle it. All that positivism after years of being the 'bad' one and now he's blown it again. He could have built on his popularity by not attacking the press yet again.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on February 05, 2017, 12:01:21 pm
^^ Surely, if Harry was going to get a big head about the Invictus Games, it would have happened with the very first Games ever, in his own country, not over in Florida. I can remember Charles, Cam and Harry turning out for Harry when the Games were on and them joining in when he received applause from the audience, and Harry looking very moved by it all, but certainly not vain about the kudos.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Stormborn on February 05, 2017, 12:56:23 pm
^ Yeah, I remember that as well. And that moment when Charles put him first and outright rejected the golden heir's open arms, it's like he couldn't believe it. And the soldiers' applause and cheers as he goes for his speech. I wonder where that Harry went. There's gotta be a transition at some point, because he's miles away from the 2016 Harry that allowed all of this to blow up.

Fully agree.

The Invictus Games put him on the world stage and now he was riding high and he can't seem to handle it. All that positivism after years of being the 'bad' one and now he's blown it again. He could have built on his popularity by not attacking the press yet again.

I'm positive that it all proved too fast, too big for him. Really, on that part I can't blame him. Probably it's served as a positive reinforcement for him, that if he does great with his causes, with being Prince enough, that he can share some of that golden boy limelight as well. Alas, he was still immature in as much as he is determined and passionate. Not a very good balance. The double faced people around him don't need any more ammunition, really.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: camilapitanga on February 11, 2017, 04:45:49 pm
Definatelly has decreased but for many reasaons i think and not all to deal with only Harry.
The wolrd has changed and so did the royals and how people see them.I think its unfair to put all on these new generatioon shoulders besides if they did worked harder i think the RF would still be going strong for many years.But taking the work thing out of question its undeniable that royals go thriouygh good and bad phases from times to times.

I think when the queen passes away...wich unfortunatelly wont take too long in my view unfortunatelly....britain might go through a huge change.Hoping for the best.But wouldnt be surrpised if after charles royal looses even more power and space and not only coz of publics opinions about it but also coz the "new generation" of royals are not interestred in working and dealing with such issues.They want to be independent and leave theyre lifes.With exception from the yorks i think all others would be happy with being away from public scrutinity and pressures.Obviouslly when they realise they would have to work to live things would take a diferent turn but i dont see william lasting much as a king and i wouldnt be surpised if harry abdicated his position to marry whoever he wanted and live abroad.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 11, 2017, 05:08:45 pm
The world has changed and we live and troubled times; right now, people want their leaders in all areas to work to support the nation. Get jobs, get charities funding and make sure the money gets there, while at the same time, being around their people and make darn sure that they are ready. When Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI ascended the throne, France was a mess and the dynasty was deteriorating. Instead of being a great Queen, Marie Antoinette gave the proverbial middle finger to her people and aristocracy and basically failed to do her duties. Louis XVI was king, but Marie was not a support system and she ignored doing appearances are giving a rat's backside about the state of her nation.

Harry had a golden chance to step up and really make it happen for himself, but he ended up blowing it in the biggest possible way.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 11, 2017, 06:30:05 pm
He has also shown a very unpleasant side to himself which he previously kept well hidden.  Cut from the same cloth as bill medd it would appear.  Trouble is, once you show your true colours there is no fading them away, they are here to stay.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: kolkomilko on February 12, 2017, 03:22:19 pm
Thing is, people thought Harry was a better person, more decent and focused and leadership material than his brother, less of a waste than his uncle. It has now been made clear that Harry is just as bad, if not worse. A lot of people are disillusioned and disillusioned people are dangerous. For a while, everyone thought Harry would have the ability to be there for the nation and care about the nation and now go figure, Harry is seen as weak as William. His skirt chasing is old and frankly people are looking at him with the same contempt as one would anyone who refuses to stop partying. He's like the cool dude in high school who refuses to stop bumming around and refuses to stop trying to drag others into his constant drama.

^ That's right. Anyway my answer is YES for the question.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 12, 2017, 04:18:17 pm
He has also shown a very unpleasant side to himself which he previously kept well hidden.  Cut from the same cloth as bill medd it would appear.  Trouble is, once you show your true colours there is no fading them away, they are here to stay.

I always thought it was odd that none of the aristo set would want to marry or even seriously date them, now I understand why. Thankfully even the most ambitious aristocrat doesn't want to pressure his kid into marrying into hat family and now aristocratic women can earn their own money so they can't be forced into a marriage to increase the family fortune.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: kolkomilko on February 13, 2017, 10:28:17 am
^ You had an interesting raising and it may be true.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: RandyDrx on February 19, 2017, 11:07:03 am
The answer to this question is yes. Just look at the comments in the DM. Earlier last year they are mostly supportive of him especially about the Invictus, now after Meghan they are giving him the Cambridges treatment.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: FrederickLouis on March 19, 2017, 10:05:07 pm
I have noticed that in some articles the press still mentions about Harry getting naked in Las Vegas. Now it is not every day a Royal Prince gets naked in such a way that some people consider scandalous. Do you believe that this event made Harry less popular?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: camilapitanga on March 25, 2017, 08:18:00 am
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Harry had a golden chance to step up and really make it happen for himself, but he ended up blowing it in the biggest possible way.

But why would he do it anyway?I dont think harry wants to be anything but a person enjoying life and seriouslly theres nothing wrong about it if thats what he trully wants.Not everyone wants to save the wolrd and is not his responsibility to do it.If i were him i would seriouslly use my conexions to marry well get a good job abdicate so i could live my life free and awayt from all pressures and peoples opinions about things they dont even know or care about seriouslly...I hope harry becomes more like his uncle that one whos married to sophie ( hes so private and discreet i dont eeven remember his name  :tehe:)...so he can have his title help his familly..always be around..have less exposition and benefits but also more privacy...in another way enjoy both sides of the coin...


He has also shown a very unpleasant side to himself which he previously kept well hidden.  Cut from the same cloth as bill medd it would appear.  Trouble is, once you show your true colours there is no fading them away, they are here to stay.

I always thought it was odd that none of the aristo set would want to marry or even seriously date them, now I understand why. Thankfully even the most ambitious aristocrat doesn't want to pressure his kid into marrying into hat family and now aristocratic women can earn their own money so they can't be forced into a marriage to increase the family fortune.

I do agree with Harry changing and showing bad sides to his personalitu through years...but even though i dont agree with all he does i see him as a human so to me i actually enjoyed he showed his "true" side...at some point...like iut or not is how he is and it requires courage to be yourself especially in such a public position...at leats in that i dont think hes wrong honestlly...and i wouldnt ever trade any of these princes for any aristocrat...as i think theyre worts...they are the ones who know the royals for real and still they accept it all without questionating coz they want to in such circle and part of such grouo..Honestlly royals mighty be whathever they are but aristso are nothing better!Theyre all the same.Only interested in power and more power.

Its not because Harry has showed his bad side that girls wouldnt want to date him...is coz theyre lazy opportunist who dont want to work at all...and believe me even with all they would have to deal with some would die to be royals just to be on such position...again theyre all the same..if not worst...


Title: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: Tatiana on April 09, 2017, 01:39:41 am
  He is the most popular royal after the Queen,  if he persists on the course he is on, his popularity will drop like a stone.   I wonder if he realises that.  ?  Do you agree, and if so, do you think he is aware of that.  ?


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 09, 2017, 01:46:45 am
I think Harry isn't thinking, but must be in some kind of manic phase. Notice how he's been bolting around, releasing that statement attacking the press (even though the press wasn't attacking Meg) and I do think Meg has taken advantage by continuing some of the drama and making sure that she stays at Harry's side. I do not think there is much of a chance for Harry to clear his head since he's still seeming high from all  the good press he got for Invictus. I think he's eager for another fix of good coverage and press and I am certain that there isn't any way for him to unload Meg since she is part of the fun ride. Meg isn't titled (in his mind a stuffy boring person) and Meg is bringing a lot of fairy-tale press that he wouldn't otherwise get.


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: gingerboy24 on April 09, 2017, 02:03:05 pm
^^  His popularity has already dropped like a stone.  Goodness knows bill meed has done enough damage to the rf to drop them down to sewer level, the last thing the British rf want or need is another trailer trash family tagging on to the gravy train, and the taxpayers are not amused either.  He has also shown his true colours, which he obviously kept covered all these years  -  he has done himself no favours hanging around with murky marble. There is always something or someone to bring you down, and for him it has been murky.


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: Snowpea on April 09, 2017, 02:04:31 pm
 He is the most popular royal after the Queen,  if he persists on the course he is on, his popularity will drop like a stone.   I wonder if he realises that.  ?  Do you agree, and if so, do you think he is aware of that.  ?

Well, his popularity has been sinking for a while. Most of the thing about Harry is that he doesn't work very hard and when he does choose to work, he plays up the Diana angle. Diana would be disgusted by both her boys' antics.


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: cate1949 on April 11, 2017, 09:15:10 am
Harry rebuilt his image after the Vegas debacle - and was starting to very much be seen as a capable representative of the Queen - there was I think a genuine affection and admiration for him.  He has now thrown that away - every article that links him with this ongoing Kardashian drama hurts him.  I have no doubt his family is well aware of the damage - PC I am sure just loves seeing the "Republic Now" comments that proliferate on the DM and other web sites.   

But does Harry understand this - I am not sure.  Someone I know who works with Harry on one of his projects has told me that Harry thinks the monarchy is a permanent institution and cannot imagine it being abolished, he also appears to thinks his naughty behavior therefore has no affect on the status of the monarchy.  He also thinks when he screws up that pr will solve the problem. A charm offensive.

I think for all of Harry's outstanding qualities he is still someone who grew up in an environment that is difficult for us to fully understand because it is so unlike a "normal" situation.  Harry is a Prince and you know a Prince can never be wrong.  He is surrounded by yes men and women.  And few dare to criticize him. 

I think Harry has screwed up seriously here and he has yet to truly understand that - he goes on his engagements and gets admiring crowds and thinks that represents the full range of public opinion.  It does not.  He can I think recover but his perpetual whining about the burden of being a Prince and some of his private shenanigans need to stop.  Harry is 32 - time to stop acting like a school boy on holiday.


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: gingerboy24 on April 11, 2017, 09:25:45 am
^Agree.  However, sadly for haza, the world has changed big time since he was a cocooned child.  Give it another 10 years and at the rate things are going the UK will be filled with immigrants, refugees, illegal immigrants.  Those who will have the vote, and a say in what happens, will more than likely not want a royal family, they have no allegiance to the royals, and will also think that all the money wasted on them would be put to better use being spent on them.  The country is in a mess in many ways, and is not improving much in the short term is it.  Why would I go to one of their countries and vote to keep their royal family, I wouldn´t, get rid I say.  They will do the same in return.  In this day and age the whole royal thing is antiquated, all that doffing your cap, working for them for a pittance, and etc.  Those days are long gone, it is just that the British rf have not got the memo yet, or have and don´t want to read it.

Haza is in for a shock if he thinks he behaviour is acceptable because of his family.  He is doing the same as bill medd, dragging them lower and lower into the sewers, and if he can´t see that he is even more unintelligent that I think he is now.  Sadly Diana produced two unintelligent dorks to present to this country, and personally since his shenanigans in recent years, I would not choose either to remain in the rf, and strengthens my thoughts that the whole rf should be abolished and have a Republic.  Yes, they cost money, but you can vote them out, this vile lot we have been stuck with for too long.

Would haza do anything different if he knew he was doing harm?  Doubt it, too arrogant and self centred.


Title: Re: Harry will lose his popularity
Post by: Snowpea on April 14, 2017, 04:31:20 pm
He is under the illusion that he's the good time boy that everybody likes - sorry Harry, life is hard for everybody but certainly not for you and people don't care or have time to watch you toss your life away for a cheap, graspy, Kardashian wannabe.  :easter-sly:

Sorry, you aren't that good-looking, or bright, or especially hard-working and the world needs to stop to watch you dress down in dirty jeans and a baseball cap and think you are just one of them? If your mother were alive, she would be ashamed of you. Grow up, little boy.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 14, 2017, 05:59:37 pm
Right now, times are too hard and uncertain and Harry's 'life as a party' approach is grating on people's nerves instead of being viewed with amusement. It's amazing how he refuses to see this and seems to think that he's not responsible for any of this or how being too cool from school is in fact making him seem edgy and rebellious and how he's entitled to the best after not making anything of himself at all. As far as I can see, he is apparently killing time until he's ready to commit, then someone decent is supposed to pop up and take on the responsibility of duty while he continues to party all the time.

Given how disgusted people are, it's not likely that someone is going to come along and I am certain that he's in for a huge surprise if he thinks that when he's ready to marry that a virginal princess will be engaged to him. He isn't going to get anyone decent since he's not a catch himself.

Harry rebuilt his image after the Vegas debacle - and was starting to very much be seen as a capable representative of the Queen - there was I think a genuine affection and admiration for him.  He has now thrown that away - every article that links him with this ongoing Kardashian drama hurts him.  I have no doubt his family is well aware of the damage - PC I am sure just loves seeing the "Republic Now" comments that proliferate on the DM and other web sites.   
But does Harry understand this - I am not sure.  Someone I know who works with Harry on one of his projects has told me that Harry thinks the monarchy is a permanent institution and cannot imagine it being abolished, he also appears to thinks his naughty behavior therefore has no affect on the status of the monarchy.  He also thinks when he screws up that pr will solve the problem. A charm offensive.
I think for all of Harry's outstanding qualities he is still someone who grew up in an environment that is difficult for us to fully understand because it is so unlike a "normal" situation.  Harry is a Prince and you know a Prince can never be wrong.  He is surrounded by yes men and women.  And few dare to criticize him. 
I think Harry has screwed up seriously here and he has yet to truly understand that - he goes on his engagements and gets admiring crowds and thinks that represents the full range of public opinion.  It does not.  He can I think recover but his perpetual whining about the burden of being a Prince and some of his private shenanigans need to stop.  Harry is 32 - time to stop acting like a school boy on holiday.

Harry's entire sense of self is clearly reflected in the image that he has of himself and the image of the media. His PR is all he has and frankly this is why I think he doesn't realize that life is not one big party for everyone around him. Apparently he refuses to see that while he goes gaily about, his people are stuck in poverty and in a society where suicide attackers are going after people in the street and they are also facing a situation right now where nuclear war might in fact actually happen. Harry is however stuck in People Magazine 80-90's era mode and clearly hasn't decide to get out of that bubble.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: cate1949 on April 15, 2017, 06:11:45 am
well I think he just took another blow - pics of him sneaking into his booty calls back door at night - looking furtively over his shoulder to see if he is being discovered are now spread all over - DM and the US media.  Now the pics apparently are older and not recent but it is irrelevant - this is not the image that people want of their Prince.

Shape up Harry  - time is running out.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: marion on April 15, 2017, 08:19:16 am
Well said Snowpea


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on April 15, 2017, 09:10:31 am
How many times in the two years Harry and Cressida Bonas were together were the couple photographed? Half a dozen? Don't think so! He and MM have been photographed together several times and it's been under a year. Harry doesn't want paps making a fortune for themselves on the open market selling photos of himself and girlfriend. That's obvious!

Time is running out for what? He will after marriage still be a member of the BRF, still be a Prince, and will continue to carry out engagements, especially on behalf of wounded vets and others, as will his wife after he marries.

Britain already has hundreds of thousands of people of different ethnic descent living there, and millions of refugees. Yet the latest opinion polls, taken in April this year show that the Monarchy's popularity is over 70%, much the same as it always has been.


In spite of the howls of people in the DM online comments (and I recognise many of the names saying the same old things) Republic, the largest republican organisation in Britain, still has membership below 50,000 in a country of over 60 million. That is in spite of all these foreign people who supposedly *despise* the royals.

People are hardly manning the barricades to burn down BP. Harry still has good will towards him, if not here and in Tumblrs, and still gets crowds. Just because he has a girlfriend few on this forum like doesn't mean he should be packing his bags anytime soon for an exile in Africa!


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Dark_Destiny on April 15, 2017, 01:43:11 pm
^ Well said Rosella.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: gingerboy24 on April 15, 2017, 04:59:19 pm
The British public do not wish to accept murky marble, and as we pay for the luxurious lifestyle why should we not have a say.  I don´t personally care about her ethnicity, what I do care about is taxpayer money.  If he wishes to marry her then fine, he should be removed from the BRF, end of.  She has already brought him down and helpe him have his true colours shine through, and they are pretty murky (pardon the pun).  I have seen a very unpleasant sad to haza, as have many.  It also tells me a lot about him that he might wish to marry a woman who can´t lie straight in bed.  The lies, the deceit, the smoke screens, the mirrors  -  the charity work that is actually pr stunts, her pr people pushing lies out all the time.  The fact that she dumped that poor chef pronto to get between the sheets with haza.  Our family would not welcome her, not one bit, why should the BRF and the British public.  For me he is already at gutter level with her, he has shown us his true nature, and there are many out there who feel the much the same as me.  If he wants to run his reputation right into the ground, let him, but he can no longer be a taxpayer funded member of the BRF. Good grief, we have enough with council caro and her guttersnipe family, we don´t want another lot poncing off the taxpayers.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: AmusedByTheRoyals on April 15, 2017, 05:27:44 pm
gingerboy24  :goodpost:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: windsor2 on April 15, 2017, 05:36:11 pm
^^that's it really. Nothing more to be said. Even though he didn't give the press loved-up photos with Cressida, he was still seen out and about with her. IMO, she made out like she hatted the press and complained about them being there, but it all ended up to be fake because she also used him to try and launch her acting career. Mehgan, he's sneaking around with her if we're to believe that he's in Canada with her right now, and also giving her the cold shoulder at Skippy's wedding just to not give the press lovey-dovey pictures of him and Mehgan. Look, if tomorrow, we don't get a picture of him with her in Toronto or her giving a statement that she exagerated the extent of their relationship, then I'll think that Harry's with her but just lets her sweat it out in public. Crazy as that would seem since he needs his image to be clean and the focus to be on the London marathon runners that'll benefit the heads Together campaign, the upcoming IG and whatever else he has coming up this year.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: LadyVi on April 15, 2017, 07:23:11 pm
^^^ @gingerboy24 :goodpost:  :thumbsup: I agree


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Snowpea on April 15, 2017, 08:16:12 pm
How many times in the two years Harry and Cressida Bonas were together were the couple photographed? Half a dozen? Don't think so! He and MM have been photographed together several times and it's been under a year. Harry doesn't want paps making a fortune for themselves on the open market selling photos of himself and girlfriend. That's obvious!

Time is running out for what? He will after marriage still be a member of the BRF, still be a Prince, and will continue to carry out engagements, especially on behalf of wounded vets and others, as will his wife after he marries.

Britain already has hundreds of thousands of people of different ethnic descent living there, and millions of refugees. Yet the latest opinion polls, taken in April this year show that the Monarchy's popularity is over 70%, much the same as it always has been.


In spite of the howls of people in the DM online comments (and I recognise many of the names saying the same old things) Republic, the largest republican organisation in Britain, still has membership below 50,000 in a country of over 60 million. That is in spite of all these foreign people who supposedly *despise* the royals.

People are hardly manning the barricades to burn down BP. Harry still has good will towards him, if not here and in Tumblrs, and still gets crowds. Just because he has a girlfriend few on this forum like doesn't mean he should be packing his bags anytime soon for an exile in Africa!

He was VERY open about his relationships except with this one. This one is on the sly - he seems ashamed or he senses that his family doesn't approve. He is over 30, self-centred, full of himself and lazy - no taxpayer wants to support his shagging some been around the block American. Does he think he is owed? Just just imagine he and Meggie showing up at some charity in ball caps and ripped jeans. Oh, it's the modern approach - no thanks. He is just as lazy as his shoddy excuse for a brother. Most people are probably indifferent or don't think about Harry as much as he and Meggie Marbles want to think they do. But still, they shouldn't have to shell out protection of every sort imaginable when Harry gets an itch in his pants. Maybe the RF should be on salary - you put in the hours and then you get the pay.

If Harry and Willy want to get all sanctimonious and stop all the so-called media intrusion, there is an easy solution - see what their sham girlfriends and their hypocritical self-serving families are and how THEY all seem to have their quick little fingers on the speed dial. Yeah, boys, your choices of mates HAVE BEEN PLAYING YOU FOR COMPLETE AND UTTER IDIOTS AND FOOLS!

Plus stop seeing your mother Diana as some kind of saint - she knew the score and knew how to play people. Yeah, silly boys, it's that obvious.



Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: One of the Peasants on April 20, 2017, 12:05:57 am
 :worship: :worship: :worship:  Gingerboy  :thankyou:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Tatiana on June 22, 2017, 07:04:41 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4625834/Prince-Harry-recalls-walking-mother-s-coffin.html

  His popularity just shot right up again.   :flower:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 22, 2017, 10:09:59 am
I don't feel sorry for him and I don't think he's getting more popular.

All this whining about not having much time before George and Charlotte steal the show... so why has he spent the last 10 years drinking and partying and hooking up with actresses? Why didn't he instead focus on making a name for himself, making himself an important world figure in his own right? He's the second son, he knew William would have kids and they'd be ahead of him in the line of succession, and of course George is another heir apparent and will be king someday so he's going to get more media attention. But if Harry had established a name for himself and did important work (full-time rather than the occasional charity appearance) he would not be ignored.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on June 22, 2017, 10:34:34 am
^ Harry has established two charities, Sentebale before he was twenty, and the Invectus Games to which he has devoted a lot of time and energy, especially since the Games have gone international. Is that not important and more than an 'occasional' charity appearance? He also works for charities under the umbrella of his and the Cambridges' Royal Foundation. His engagements are in the sixties this year, many more than they were last year, and at the moment he's ahead of the Cambridges in numbers.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: cate1949 on June 22, 2017, 11:10:15 am
Oh wow - 60 engagements.  He almost works like 5 hours a week. 

He needs to 1) shut up and 2) work and 3) grow up.  The Teflon has worn off Harry - you run out of get out of jail free cards. 

Now I will allow for the interview being done in October when Harry was making mistakes galore and one hopes he has learned from those mistakes.  But no more self revelations please.  No more Mummy died.  And no more life is so hard for me cause I am a royal.  Look to your grandmother and your Aunt as role models.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: danifaul on June 22, 2017, 12:09:10 pm
cate  :flower: agree
especially:
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But no more self revelations please.  No more Mummy died.  And no more life is so hard for me cause I am a royal.  Look to your grandmother and your Aunt as role models
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Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 22, 2017, 11:53:55 pm
^^  :goodpost:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: FrederickLouis on June 23, 2017, 01:54:23 am
Will Prince Harry's popularity increase if he announces he is engaged?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 23, 2017, 02:19:31 am
No.  That Newsweek debacle ruined whatever goodwill he had left, I think.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 23, 2017, 03:29:18 am
^^ No, because he's dating a tacky actress.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 23, 2017, 03:58:40 am
It's a sign of the times.

Lately there are two classes of people:

People who have gone through rough times and want a little peace and pleasure for themselves.

and

People who have had a surfeit of pleasure and ease and want those who have gone through rough times to sacrifice so they (this class) can continue to enjoy abundance without making an effort.

Harry falls into the latter category of people and people are sick and tired of being expected to feel sorry for him. I am certain that if Harry owned his privileged and told the world how he was so glad he had all he did and how he wanted to open doors for others to have a chance at similar advantages, I am certain people would be a lot more amiable about him and wouldn't grudge him his perks and other advantages.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Ariel on June 23, 2017, 06:00:42 am
^Exactly. The article is not bad. Must have been hard to not be able to shed a tear in a personal moment of grief because your personal tragedy is televised and you don't want to turn it into a spectacle more than it it. At the same time - I wouldn't equate quantity of engagements (hours per week) with impact into people's lives, however, he needs to start doing more. 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 23, 2017, 06:17:26 am
^ Even one event can change someone's life, of course. But Harry lives in a palace with full-time protection, servants, staff, etc. If the taxpayers are paying for him to have all that stuff, he needs to work full time like the people who are funding his lifestyle. Even welfare programs these days (at least where I live) make you work or volunteer for a certain number of hours per week in order to get benefits. Otherwise they cut you off and only give you a small amount of aid for your child(ren). Harry gets far more benefits than those parents on welfare and only puts in 5 hrs/week? Seems messed up. No wonder people are getting fed up.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on June 23, 2017, 07:58:39 am
^ Harry lives in a two bedroom cottage in the KP complex, not in a palace full of servants, and there are a handful of staff, if that, in the KP offices. I said in my previous post that Harry's engagements were 'IN the 60s' not 60, more than Kate and more than William so far this year, by some calculations. When he works for the IG he puts in plenty of time behind the scenes, and when on tour, as per the Caribbean tour, he was certainly working more than 5 hours a week, which is an incorrect calculation anyway.
Harry has an estimated fortune of about 30 million pounds, so any comparison with people working for benefits is irrelevant, IMO. Prince Philip is retiring and more of his patronages will be taken up by the younger royals as time goes on, and that includes Harry.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 23, 2017, 08:23:43 am
Harry has it good and a cottage isn't the same as a regular cottage on a small patch of land. As far as I'm concerned, no sympathy from me. Stop whining, get to work making a positive impact, and then he can live a better life (as if he doesn't already have it made). He has no business whining about his life. He still has vast estates at his disposal and his life will never be small or simple.

When he walked behind his mother's coffin without coming apart, he proved he had guts and grit. In the royal world, you have to prove yourself nonstop and that was one of those times. Tough as anything and he (and William) had the intestinal fortitude to hold it together. Suddenly, he and his brother then go all soft and now he wants pity and love and 'understanding.' This makes him look weak and in his world, that is a bad thing to show, much less feel.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 24, 2017, 01:21:42 am
^^ The point isn't his personal wealth, it's how much he's costing the taxpayers to fund his lifestyle.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: jackiew on June 24, 2017, 09:10:57 am
I think its about time Harry stopped giving interviews, the British people are going through a hard time right now the last thing they need is to read about the sob stories of the privileged Royals.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: cate1949 on June 24, 2017, 12:29:35 pm
^ agree.  Harry's trauma is frankly nothing compared to the suffering of the people who escaped the Grenfell fire, some of whom are still sleeping in their cars.  Or people who lost loved ones in the recent terror attacks.  Or even the travails of a working class family trying to raise children on limited means.  And unlike those people Harry has unlimited access to the best possible help.  Some perspective would be in order when he speaks. 

It is fine to encourage people to seek help with their problems but the self revelations are getting insensitive now.  When Harry did the interview of course he did not know it would be released at a time when there is so much apparent suffering but the complaints about being royal are wearing thin.  Everyone has plusses and minuses in their life.  Having never experienced financial anxiety nor being deprived of anything material they desire, Harry and Will need to cork it.  They have both been moaning for years about "being normal".  Constant complaints about lack of privacy even though for most of the time they have privacy as we know little about their where abouts when they are not working - which is often. 

And behind the scenes work is not accepted as an excuse for Will and Kate it should therefore not be accepted as an excuse for Harry.
They all need to get cracking.  And I say again, Harry does not do as much work for Invictus as you might think.  The organizing committee's do the work.  Harry shows up for the photo ops.  Which is of course useful and is a contribution but do not fool yourself into thinking he is knocking himself out doing behind the scenes work.  It is insulting to those who spend hundreds of hours volunteering in addition to their full time jobs to make IG work.

Harry has been around long enough to know that what he says will be taken out of context and even misconstrued.  So he should by now know he must be cautious and discrete when he does interviews.

And while he lives in a two bedroom cottage it is the most expensive neighborhood in the UK and he does have staff.  I have read that the market value rent on that "cottage" is 15,000 pounds per month.  Hardly typical. 

Harry does a lot of good as does Will but they both need to develop a better perspective and a bit more wisdom.  Neither one seems to have any gratitude for the extraordinary privilege they enjoy.   





Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Emperor on June 24, 2017, 04:00:36 pm
^  :worship:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on June 24, 2017, 04:23:50 pm
The worst soul baring is the barrage of Camilla True Stories. Camilla's nasty past is nauseating. If APB ever wrote a book about this, he'd have to get lots of bodyguards. He's been neutralized apparently as the world's most famous cuckold. Harry's confessions are  a drop in the bucket. But he should have kept his mouth shut about the time he walked behind the casket. Some things are better unsaid and he can't repeat the past.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 24, 2017, 07:00:12 pm
Harry made going to homeless shelters, like going to the zoo to look at the weird animals.

As for charity work, all he has to do is form a day to day routine and establish himself as a fixture at these places, filling in time constructively for his charities, draw attention, and attract the right kind of volunteers. He needs to stop the Africa jet setting and needs to focus first on Britain and then the Commonwealth.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: FrederickLouis on June 26, 2017, 02:43:38 am
Where does the money come from to pay for Harry's jet trips?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 26, 2017, 02:56:39 am
The taxpayers!


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on June 26, 2017, 08:17:30 am
^ Members of the Royal family pay for their own travel around Britain and overseas if the trips are private. So the taxpayer doesn't pay unless the Royal is on official business.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 26, 2017, 08:33:32 am
Considering how murky the finances are (no official auditing done to show the difference) I don't trust the RF to be paying their own way.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on June 26, 2017, 01:21:37 pm
There is an official audit done on all such travel and official journeys by air as distinct form private visits each year. That's how Andrew got into some trouble years ago for tacking a private break on to official time as a British Trade Ambassador. Clearer guidelines were produced just to make sure that sort of thing never happened again.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on June 26, 2017, 10:51:47 pm
^^^ Even if Harry "pays his own way" the taxpayers still have to pay for his security.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Tatiana on July 01, 2017, 12:20:46 am
  Harry's cottage is a small two bedroom building.   Has anyone else seen it .  ?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: jackiew on July 01, 2017, 03:47:39 pm
^Its Nottingham cottage see photos below.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/c5/01/a5c501a4bd3038b7c0849b22346cf4e5.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/19/21/3768212800000578-0-image-m-31_1471639013152.jpg


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 01, 2017, 05:30:32 pm
That is how sad they are, many would be ecstatic to live in Nottingham Cottage, they would think they had died and gone to heaven, but not the rf, oh no, not good enough for them.  Greedy,grasping scamming lot, and they get it all for nothing, that is what galls me even more.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: HRHOlya on July 01, 2017, 05:37:40 pm
To me Nottingham Cottage has always looked bigger than the reported "small two bedroom" and it likely is, just as 1A is much bigger than the reported "22 rooms", it's said that it has in reality close to about 60 rooms actually. You just can't believe a word that comes from that family.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 01, 2017, 06:43:53 pm
That is how sad they are, many would be ecstatic to live in Nottingham Cottage, they would think they had died and gone to heaven, but not the rf, oh no, not good enough for them.  Greedy,grasping scamming lot, and they get it all for nothing, that is what galls me even more.

Nothing is ever good enough for that family.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on August 24, 2017, 04:35:11 am
I think it's interesting, in light of all the opinions here that Harry's popularity has disappeared since Meghan's arrival, that the latest YouGov poll has him at a 77% approval rating.

That's only one point below William's in terms of approval of work done which enhances the monarchy. (This polls shows a huge slump for Charles.) In fact, in spite of prevailing opinions on royal forums and some Tumblr sites, Harry and William and Kate are retaining their popularity with the British people, according to every poll undertaken in the last ten years or more. 

https://www.metro.news/charles-popularity-slumps-before-diana-anniversary/716703/

YouGov is the most accurate of the polling companies as they use a variety of multi media and online outlets to get their results, including mobile phones. They were the most accurate in predicting the Brexit result too.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rebecca on August 25, 2017, 04:03:46 pm
I think it is quite likely that the reason William and Harry's poll numbers are so high is simply because the majority of the public isn't following them closely yet. I think they are seen as 'those great boys of Diana's' still by your everyday Joe who doesn't invest much time in following their activities. I expect that their popularity with those people will change in the future as they become more aware of how useless they are.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: meememe on August 25, 2017, 11:38:49 pm
I think the popularity of William and Harry will last for decades yet due to the Diana factor.

Charles is hardly 'useless' but his popularity is in the dumper.

Working hard for the people of the UK doesn't lead to popularity - all that matters to the general public is that the sons are Diana's boys and so they will have that as their 'get out of jail free' card as long as there are people alive who remember Diana, unless they themselves do something public such as commit adultery.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: HRHOlya on August 26, 2017, 11:32:05 am
These polls validate them, make them think they can continue as is and no need to change.
I don't think it'll take decades, I think a change in perception will happen once Bill moves up in the line of succession, as the spotlight will hit him harder and people ought to look closer.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 29, 2017, 09:25:38 am
^^ I must agree.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: madgoulding on September 13, 2017, 03:32:36 pm
let's be honest. he lost popularity because he's not single anymore. he lost popularity because he's on the verge of marrying a woman who most of the fanbase didn't picture him with (WHAT??! SHE'S NOT BLONDE!). he lost popularity because due to his relationship, he is not in the public eye as much anymore. he's lost popularity because he called the media and society out on what they love to do (but *despise* to be called out on) the most.

he isn't doing anything wrong, it's just the projected expectations of him aren't coming to fruition and that might turn some off...
harry doesn't care about the agenda you have for him.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 13, 2017, 04:22:26 pm
Agree; Harry fans seem to think he should be like a pop star, eternally single and available, not having a romance or life of his own. At some point he is going to marry and he's going to want to have children and a family of his own. He's under no obligation to remain single to remain marketable to deranged fans who objectify him.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Snowpea on September 13, 2017, 04:23:09 pm
People see Harry want he really is - a lazy, arrogant, stubborn, self-serving idiot who is too dim to see the damage he has done. If anything, he like his brother  have been playing the Dead Mummy card way too long and people are tired of it. They see a not very attractive dolt who is getting a free ride due to nothing he has ever accomplished on his own. So he dropped out of Saint Diana's womb - who cares anymore? (other than aging Sloane Rangers and sugars with too much free time)

He can do whatever he wants - but on his own time - run away with MediaMarkle - please! No way the British taxpayer should have to do without so his Yankee booty call can get Grade A treatment.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Stormborn on September 13, 2017, 05:33:05 pm
He lost popularity because his choices in his private life revealed some patterns. Patterns that taxpayers should not have to worry about with their public figures. He is too happy to jet off for an adventure, too content in his hedonistic lifestyle that people are finally seeing that perhaps this is truly who he is. Perhaps this is not a phase, not just some growing pains. This is it with Harry. Nothing less and certainly nothing more.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 14, 2017, 09:35:48 am
I think the public is bitterly disappointed at what Harry chose to make of his life and how the British public has been ripped off. Clearly all that money has been a waste and clearly the public NEEDS their RF to go out there and get job contracts (one way or another) and clearly Harry just wants the world to wait on him. IN the best of times he would be disliked, but because of all the hardship, there is so much anger and impatience.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on September 14, 2017, 10:29:20 am
Harry can't be that bitterly disliked by the British public. He got 77% approval rating in the latest YouGov poll this August and has been up there in the top two or three of BRF royals polled for ten years or more in terms of popularity.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on September 14, 2017, 11:39:47 am
I think it better for Harry to settle down now than drift along like Prince Albert of Monaco who finally settled down in his fifties after many liaisons and love children.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on September 14, 2017, 02:26:33 pm
The only way anyone would ever really know whether Harry is "popular" or not is if there was ever an actual vote on the matter by actual ballot.  Now, that I'd pay to see.  If this bunch had to be voted in based on accomplishments to the People, facts exposed and accountability a real platform?  :laugh:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: dianab on September 14, 2017, 04:23:12 pm
I think it better for Harry to settle down now than drift along like Prince Albert of Monaco who finally settled down in his fifties after many liaisons and love children.
well that dont means he wont many liasions while married to Meg or another woman... chelsy and cressida had put up with his cheating when they were his girlfriends


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on September 14, 2017, 06:19:50 pm
I believe Chelsy dumped Harry because of  his cheating. I don't know if Harry was dumped or dumped Cressida. He did not seem to be as taken with Cressida as he was with Chelsy.

Yes, the Queen's grandchildren  could potentially have liaisons, even William.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on September 14, 2017, 06:45:14 pm
Off topic. 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: One of the Peasants on October 17, 2017, 01:50:45 am
The Ginger is losing popularity for a lot of reasons. 
One, he is starting to lose his looks, he is no longer the hottie he was in Vegas, although, nowhere near the equine-dentured, dad dancing manboy that is his brother, but he is losing his hair and like the rest of us mortals growing older.
Two, the Diana card does have an expiration date, Millennials barely know Diana, and lets face it anyone not a permatanned, selfie, self obsessed *fool* will likely not compute.  They might want to dress like Jackie but no one wants to dress like the 80s Diana
Three, adding Markle Sparkle to his life is going to be interesting.  She is a desperate housewife wannabe who is trying to get promoted into the RF and if and likely when she does, Harry will want to up the "we are so normal factor" and being that he is being kicked further and further down the line by every creature that pops out of Waitys' womb, he will be just some hanger on, eventually like Chuck's brother Andy.
Four, in a weird twist Markle, while she may not have to wait 10 years seems to be very unpopular.  She calls the paps when she wants and Harry whines when the press gets a bit to cosy, he cannot have it both ways. 
Fifth, even though the marriage was a righteous train wreck, neither, Harry, nor Bill have the IT factor their parents had in the 80s, they are both bum rushing into middle age, well, Bill got slapped by it, or Waity I mean Scarole.  There will never be a replication of that time.

When the Queen kicks it, things are going to get real, and Harry is coming across more and more as a spoiled, indulged, whiner boy 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 17, 2017, 02:05:37 am
^ I think Meggles, if Harry is truly foolish enough to marry the woman in whose presence he appears so unhappy, will be enormously unpopular with the British media and people and palace staff.  Thus, Harry's popularity will dive because of her.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: One of the Peasants on October 17, 2017, 02:20:23 am
^
Yep and sadly she is only one of his problems. Although, it will make for endless amusement if she does wiggle her way into the RF, they will deserve her even more thank Waity.  I can't wait to see Sparkle flit around like she thinks she is the second coming of Grace Kelly. 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: windsor2 on October 17, 2017, 03:36:17 am
IMO, that's what Mehgan's for; to pull down Harry's popularity. IO, it was too convent for Harry to have met her and all that's come out about her since. It's as if this whole thing was orchestrated by someone who'd benfit from Harry not being seen as king material and a leader who gets things done like he was again around the IG last year in Florida and the London games before. I don't know if Harry will really bounce back when Mehgan get publicly booted. The how and why she was allowed to do things that Harry wouldn't have tollerated from any other woman and the issuance of that statement will have to be fully explained and unfortunately that mightn't happen because of the royal's don't complain or explain moto. I think in this case, since Harry's still important to Charle's vision of a smaller working monarchy, this situation has to be explained and Harry has to be left alone and not be used to boost up the less productive members such as his brother and Waity, imo.  :cookie:  As seen in the 2 engagements that Waity's done since announcing she's pregnant, she still continues to be seen as a lightweight and work shy. IMO, there's really nothing that can be done for her because in the 6 almost 7 years she's been married, she's not made much of any impact at all despite the pr spin around her.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 17, 2017, 02:33:00 pm
The Ginger is losing popularity for a lot of reasons. 
One, he is starting to lose his looks, he is no longer the hottie he was in Vegas, although, nowhere near the equine-dentured, dad dancing manboy that is his brother, but he is losing his hair and like the rest of us mortals growing older.
Two, the Diana card does have an expiration date, Millennials barely know Diana, and lets face it anyone not a permatanned, selfie, self obsessed *fool* will likely not compute.  They might want to dress like Jackie but no one wants to dress like the 80s Diana
Three, adding Markle Sparkle to his life is going to be interesting.  She is a desperate housewife wannabe who is trying to get promoted into the RF and if and likely when she does, Harry will want to up the "we are so normal factor" and being that he is being kicked further and further down the line by every creature that pops out of Waitys' womb, he will be just some hanger on, eventually like Chuck's brother Andy.
Four, in a weird twist Markle, while she may not have to wait 10 years seems to be very unpopular.  She calls the paps when she wants and Harry whines when the press gets a bit to cosy, he cannot have it both ways. 
Fifth, even though the marriage was a righteous train wreck, neither, Harry, nor Bill have the IT factor their parents had in the 80s, they are both bum rushing into middle age, well, Bill got slapped by it, or Waity I mean Scarole.  There will never be a replication of that time.

When the Queen kicks it, things are going to get real, and Harry is coming across more and more as a spoiled, indulged, whiner boy 

Harry has to be around working because the baby Cambridges won't be working for twenty years or so. If they are like their parents it may take a lot longer for them to get moving and work.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: dianab on October 17, 2017, 05:06:51 pm
Yes. His popularity decreased. and will even more after the wedding...


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: meememe on October 17, 2017, 09:52:54 pm
True - his popularity has dropped from 78% approval in 2016 to only 77% in 2017.

The BRF overall is still very popular in the UK itself while some individuals are less than popular - such as Charles - who support is either total or none with very little in between (either loved or hated).

Diana's sons are loved - not universally but way more than their father and on a par pretty well with their grandmother. Kate is also a loved figure.

Every time I have been to the UK, all my friends and relatives who live there say the same thing - can take or leave Charles and love the others in the mainline. Everyone from Andrew down can disappear according to them. The polls show much the same thing.

The problem for many people is that they judge the popularity and views of the UK based on the comments in papers like the DM but that isn't a reliable guide as many of the posters there aren't from the UK and it depends on which day it is as to how a post will be received e.g. earlier this year I made a post there and 24 hours later made the exact same post on a different article. The first post was red arrowed with around 400 reds and about 10 greens while the second, word for word the same post, was green to the extent of over 700 while there were only 5 red arrows. That has happened a lot to me.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on October 17, 2017, 10:12:15 pm
^ I couldn't agree more. My experience with my friends and extended family in the UK and when I have been there has been exactly the same. As well, Poll after poll for years have placed the Queen, the Cambridges, Harry far ahead of the others, even workhorses like Princess Anne. I think people acknowledge in general that Charles is a hard worker but he has far too much lead in his saddlebags, including Camilla.

As well as the online DM which doesn't really qualify as a real newspaper, far too much importance IMO when assessing Harry's so-called unpopularity is placed on tumblrs and blogs on the internet that have decided that Meghan isn't acceptable (just as Cressida wasn't) and therefore Harry is an idiot or a pawn or Meghan is holding something over him. It often reaches levels of tin hat brigade fantasy out there!


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on October 23, 2017, 11:33:16 pm
I thought people liked Cressie or at least thought she was suitable.  Maybe because Harry is more of a wild card he's being allowed to marry one. I still can't believe it. Things have really changed in the RF since I studied there in 1980.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2017, 12:49:47 am
The comments on Chelsy were scathing on some of the boards.  And it's ridiculous how some use the word "we" like "We have to stop Meghan from marrying Harry" LIke a clique of something.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Val on October 24, 2017, 09:00:09 am
Unfortunately and to Willy's disappointment Kate isn't liked by many here in the UK.  With immigration at an all time high the RF very low on people's agenda.  A poll taken at random in the street in Hampshire and Sussex confirmed this with 'who' being the immediate response.  A similar poll taken in London would be very disappointing particularly as there is so much disinterest in them now due to the diverse culture and changing times.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: marion on October 24, 2017, 09:21:31 am
Most of the time willy looks cross or iritated with waity so why should the rest of us feel any different. 

I think any popularity for the RF, such as it is, is because a lot of people equate the monarchy solely  with ER so once she has gone it will be quite different.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Val on October 24, 2017, 11:55:41 am


Interesting Comment from  another forum

HM is still popular except I think since Brexit  revealed how much of our sovereignty she had signed away from the 1972 act, through to Maastricht and the Lisbon treaty even old die hards have started to criticise her, particularly with the huge amounts of cash she's given when everyone else is being told to tighten their belts. I doubt she'll get a warm response from those involved in the Universal Credit row.

Charles isn't at all popular and with all the self flagellation over their mother William and Harry are seen as pathetic wimps. Kate is well, a Middleton, is generally regarded as lazy and just in it for the cash and prestige. She hasn't got a clue how to do the job, over spends on dresses she looks like a bag of washing in and appears to be organising  sprogs just to secure her position. It's said she doesn't like poor sad George. Very few like her or the Mids particularly her pushy mother and if Harry marries Meghan well it's known to be another nail in the coffin.

To those self deluded royalists in the colonies this country is changing beyond all recognition and quickly I am depressed to say. When the Queen goes it will be a very different Game of Thrones. Aren't both Australia and particularly NZ wanting rid of them?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Spitfire on October 24, 2017, 01:49:28 pm
The efficacy and the accuracy of these oft-quoted opinion polls are moot points.  They predicted incorrectly the results of the UK General Elections of 2015 and 2017 and the EU Referendum.  Questions can be skewed by pollsters to get the results required by the companies who have commissioned these polls and who have vested interests in the "right" results. Equally, respondents to the questions can give the wrong answers because they want to be bloody-minded and also consider their views to be confidential and resent the snooping of companies, political parties, etc.  After their recent disastrous predictions, UK polling companies are not seen as reliable and I'd like to see the psephological data of these spurious, keep the Royal Family opinion polls.



Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2017, 01:51:57 pm


Interesting Comment from  another forum

HM is still popular except I think since Brexit  revealed how much of our sovereignty she had signed away from the 1972 act, through to Maastricht and the Lisbon treaty even old die hards have started to criticise her, particularly with the huge amounts of cash she's given when everyone else is being told to tighten their belts. I doubt she'll get a warm response from those involved in the Universal Credit row.

Charles isn't at all popular and with all the self flagellation over their mother William and Harry are seen as pathetic wimps. Kate is well, a Middleton, is generally regarded as lazy and just in it for the cash and prestige. She hasn't got a clue how to do the job, over spends on dresses she looks like a bag of washing in and appears to be organising  sprogs just to secure her position. It's said she doesn't like poor sad George. Very few like her or the Mids particularly her pushy mother and if Harry marries Meghan well it's known to be another nail in the coffin.

To those self deluded royalists in the colonies this country is changing beyond all recognition and quickly I am depressed to say. When the Queen goes it will be a very different Game of Thrones. Aren't both Australia and particularly NZ wanting rid of them?

No, it's not talking about their mother IMO it is essentially their laziness and taking the easy way out. Also Will and Kate hiding out the children and using them when it suits them.

It is ironic how they talk of their mother and do the opposite of what she would have wanted them to do (work and give back).


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on October 24, 2017, 02:15:00 pm
True.  It's  kind of a combo, tho, for me.  HM is and has been an enormous shield.  Why she allows it is for another thread.  When that is, sadly, gone, things will be vastly more difficult for them to validate their behavior.  Neither of them, I agree, have even come close to being like their mother.  Like her or not, she worked like a fiend.

But, back on topic, Harry is just behaving like any normal 17-22 year old but the boyishness is wearing thin and a lot more will be expected from him as time passes. 


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Spitfire on October 24, 2017, 02:20:05 pm
The Princes have used their mother's death as leverage for never-ending sympathy and understanding.  There comes a point - and it may have been reached - when this behaviour has the opposite effect and begins to irritate. These blokes (and they are blokes!) need to look at their wealth, their privileges, etc, realise how fortunate they are compared with billions of other people throughout the world, and knuckle down to some serious work.  The Whingeing Waleses are becoming tedious and obnoxious.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: dianab on October 24, 2017, 02:24:15 pm
Probably Diana will be happy as her sons (help to) make the Monarchy unpopular. After all, in last 20 years, her name/memory is been dragged through the mud for the sake of Windsors' popularity/survival.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2017, 02:40:16 pm
After the Queen, the Windsors have become two generations of whingers. Dad Charles constantly whines and his pal Penny Junor talked about his "pain" in the book she wrote about Camilla. William and Harry go on about privacy and being normal. And apparently don't like working much. Will George, Charlotte and future children whine about their "lot." Most likely IMO.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: LadyAva on October 27, 2017, 07:16:44 am
Yes and Harry  keeps making stupid decisions. Like a spoiled child they just want what the want right now , regardless of the impact on their future.   bignono I agree with the Queen gone, It’s only a matter of time.  Once the Queen goes the magic for the Royals for me will be gone too. I used to think they were so interesting because of the unique  lives they led. Now I just see the others as very ordinary. : :wopedo:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: windsor2 on October 27, 2017, 12:10:04 pm
^very true. Age wise, Harry's going to have a very tough time attracting someone half decent. Who he's attached to now is such a step backwards if he really wanted to get married and have children and have people be proud of the person he chose; one he could introduce to the queen, to paraphrase what he said a few years back. He's charity work keeps getting a setback in favor of him doing dumb things that ends up dominating the actual good that he does. From being on top of the world with people being so impressed with him regarding the IG in London to now being a bit of a joke is very bad for him, his future and the monarchy.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on October 28, 2017, 01:12:51 am
Apparently  Harry has introduced Meg to the Queen at tea. So she must approve this. Why I will never understand as she is inappropriate in many ways to be his wife.  When Charles is King he will have mutts all around him on the balcony. The days of bloodlines are clearly gone. So they are turning into a very ordinary bunch.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on October 28, 2017, 07:36:21 am
^ It's happened in most other Royal Houses too though and has been happening for decades. Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands married an 'ordinary' non aristo person. So did Harold and Haakon of Norway, Frederik and Joachim of Denmark, Felipe of Spain, Carl Gustav and Victoria and Madeleine and Carl Philip of Sweden, the list goes on and on. The only people from reigning Royal houses who have married anyone vaguely aristocratic in the past 20 years have been Philippe of Belgium and Gui of Luxembourg and even then Gui's mother Maria Theresa was a Brazilian commoner.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 28, 2017, 01:21:16 pm
^very true. Age wise, Harry's going to have a very tough time attracting someone half decent. Who he's attached to now is such a step backwards if he really wanted to get married and have children and have people be proud of the person he chose; one he could introduce to the queen, to paraphrase what he said a few years back. He's charity work keeps getting a setback in favor of him doing dumb things that ends up dominating the actual good that he does. From being on top of the world with people being so impressed with him regarding the IG in London to now being a bit of a joke is very bad for him, his future and the monarchy.

Meghan has met the Queen and Prince Charles according to various reports.   Harry has apparently chosen her. If he wanted to "hide her out" he could have. But he wants to be with her and he is not this perfect being himself as are the other royals  not perfect.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on October 28, 2017, 02:08:40 pm
Not the Markle thread.  You'll find that in Members Only thread which is for posters beyond a certain number of relevant posts.  And some of you qualify and know better, so, stop.  Off Topic.  YM


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on October 28, 2017, 08:53:35 pm
Harry certainly is getting more press than his brother now. There seems to be little interest in Kate's pregnancy. She rarely makes appearances. He is also now more in the international press than his  older brother. Right now I would say he's more popular than Will and Kate.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: LadyAva on November 27, 2017, 12:30:21 pm
 Yes because he just got engaged to MM who is the most social climber I’ve seen besides Waity. But how they have had Her hidden in the tower, I had my doubts this would happen. But I guess love prevailed.... :stop: this crazy train now. But if I annoy you all I’m  Sorry,with all my posts. You know why!  :flower:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: marion on November 27, 2017, 01:59:58 pm
I don't think there is anything like the excitement one would expect from Harry getting married due to his tacky choice


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 27, 2017, 02:25:20 pm
Well, a high percentage of Brits think the rf took enough on with council cath and her odious family, and this lot give the impression of being even worse. What on earth HM thought the public would think about this debacle is a big guess, but IMO she has lost her sanity. The medds dragged them into sewer level, God alone knows what this lot will do for their reputation.  By the time this lot is finished dork haza will have no popularity left to worry about. I do question whether Diana´s Terrible Two are on a joint mission to totally destroy the British rf, and if they are then they are making an excellent job of it.  Duchess of Sussex, very fitting for them -  Sussex - murky allegedly good at that, and her reputation in that direction drops dork haza from a great height with his reputation, read one comment which said "his brain must be in his trousers, she must be good at what she does"  - no idea why DM let it through to be honest, but IMO how right that comment is, hits the nail on the head.  If dork haza thinks the Brits will ever welcome murky murkle then he is even dumber than I ever gave him credit for. If he had a credit rating on this one it would be zero for sure.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: LadyAva on November 29, 2017, 05:18:51 am
Diana’s terrible twos,  lols fitting.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: marion on November 29, 2017, 06:57:33 am
The reaction to them will be interesting on Friday at their first engagement.

This farce is a wonderful  distraction for the government with all their Brexit woes


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2017, 07:08:07 pm
And fakey 3, and the Epstein trial too...


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Akasha 85 on November 29, 2017, 11:39:06 pm
5 years form now he'll look back and realise that he should have put a ring on it with chelsey.... :wellduh:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2017, 11:23:01 pm
I think thqat the public is tired of the BRF and would like a rest from them; the BRF clearly isn't going to do much for the public and this is too much for the nation. I've seen so many vitriolic comments and I'm shocked; not a good word for her and many want Harry out. Since he announced he would be shutting Invictus down after a few years, that has added to the resentment. Throw in the partying and now this and his goodwill is gone.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on December 01, 2017, 12:15:30 am
I heard from another forum with a mole in it for MM that they may go to Africa to live part of the time. That would be good. They can do good works and leave the fishbowl.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 01, 2017, 01:11:04 am
Harry is a senior royal and needed despite the children of Will and Kate moving ahead of him. They are tots now plus a new baby in 2018 so Harry will need to work as a senior royal with his wife. Will and Kate are not powerhouses in the work dept. so Harry and Meghan can't spend too much time living in Africa. Unless Charles relents and allows the York girls to work.  I think the same people make the nasty comments about Meghan and some border on being trolls with the offensive things they say. There are others who praise her and put down the trolling. I don't think the trolls represent the opinion of everybody in the UK to say the least. Some may be teen girls who have Harry fan clubs and Meghan does not measure up to their idea of a wife for him. Some even say they should be the ones to choose Harry's wife. These posts IMO are over the top. I don't think these two should have to remove themselves to Africa.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: leogirl on December 01, 2017, 05:25:59 am
I don't think many teen girls have Harry fan clubs these days. Today's teenagers were born between 1998 and 2004... they are technically young enough to be Harry's kids. When I was a teen, there were lots of teen magazine articles about William and Harry (especially William), but I am three years younger than Harry so it made sense.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 01, 2017, 06:52:45 am
OR maybe it's an older group fan club?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: camilapitanga on December 01, 2017, 02:43:12 pm
I dont get why people keep saying his loosing popularity especially coz of his fiancee, if anything shes the one reason people talk about him.There was a big crowd today and they all seemed excited to see him.I noticed it wasnt her but him people were excited about just saying.I dont think i saw a big crowd like this since the last royal wedding.So no dont think hes loosing popularity.

He will eventually become less and less popular as many have said younger generations dont really care much about the royals as we used to.Most people i believe are up 30´s  :tehe:
But well there will be the royal kids for the new generations.So well see how it all goes.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on December 02, 2017, 08:35:09 pm
Just to clarify the mole in the otherr Forum was saying that they would want to go there and live part of the time cuz they both like that place so much and can do work over there. Not that they had to leave to go there. Harry is crazy about Africa. But understanding he will have to do Royal duties while the three young kids our kids.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Little light on December 02, 2017, 11:26:12 pm
If Harry wishes to go and live in .africa, then so be it.

But he shouldn't be doing on taxpayer's money.

There are fully qualified, nurses here whose salary is not enough for them to buy food so they are forced to go to food banks just so they can eat that week. All the while, PH is swanning around Africa getting his jollies there.

The BRF just don't get it. The royals are needed here in the UK,and across the Commonwealth, but it's the hard paying taxpayer who funds them at great expense to their own financial standing.

When the UK taxpayer has had enough, then out they will go. One of the few things preventing that is that they work day in and day out for local charities.

Not sunning themselves saving some animals, especially since they are so keen on killing other ones in the UK and Spain.  bignono



Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on December 02, 2017, 11:36:21 pm
Who has said Harry wants to go and live in Africa for part of the year? He's never mentioned that he's going to do so. There are many things preventing that from happening, the cost of security, he's a Counsellor of State and as such he would have to reside in England, plus the Royal engagements in Britain he has to keep a regular connection to.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 03, 2017, 12:05:36 am
Harry dosen't have to come right out and say he wants to live in Africa ,but if he had a choice he would do it in  a heartbeat him and William and if Harry  and Meghan could do it and HM told them it's fine they would not think twice.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 03, 2017, 12:29:43 am
He probably will vacation with Meghan in Africa but I doubt work there for a significant time every year.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Snowpea on December 06, 2017, 01:20:25 am
Harry dosen't have to come right out and say he wants to live in Africa ,but if he had a choice he would do it in  a heartbeat him and William and if Harry  and Meghan could do it and HM told them it's fine they would not think twice.

Neither Megsy or Wasty could pretend very long that living outside the spotlight would be for them.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 01:29:18 am
Off topic, whatever the point of topic really is or can be proved.  YM


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 06, 2017, 03:06:04 am
Just a few short years ago Harry was being cheered as more king material than William and now look at the comments calling for him to step out of the line of succession. This has ruined him and I am certain that he is shocked at how bad it's gotten.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on December 06, 2017, 03:22:48 am
^ Harry had 81% approval rating in the new YouGov poll recently, (the one that included Meghan) the same as his brother, and 74% in the one taken by another company at the time the Paradise Papers came out in which the Queen's approval ratings went down. In fact, in that poll, Harry's approval rating was the only one that remained steady. All the other senior royals lost points, especially Charles and Camilla. Harry topped that poll.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: danifaul on December 06, 2017, 03:43:46 am
^ Kui Fei
exact.
It seems that Harry is popular, but ..... it is not respected.  :sly: is stranger / weird.
The public likes him,Harry is popular ....  but .... not want him as king (the highest and most respected position in the firm)

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Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Rosella on December 06, 2017, 04:21:35 am
Well, to be fair it was only those online and DM commenters who have ever seriously contemplated Harry as King (a position I very much doubt he would want anyway.) The rest know it's constitutionally impossible, including a lot who took part in that polling I would suspect.

William is serious, a bit stiff, reserved and private, a very different character to Harry, who is loved for his ease with the public and sense of fun. The one who should be really worried on the figures of polling that has come out in the last decade is Charles, who is always slumped a long way behind his mother, sons and daughter in law.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 07, 2017, 08:09:11 pm
Love the fact that the pic of Camilla face is pushed down by the neg votes in the second poll!
Like she's hiding in shame of the result  lol :laugh:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 08:18:07 pm
It makes no sense for the "outrage" and calls for Harry to step down after the future Defender of the Faith got a divorce and married a divorcee. Makes no sense whatsoever IMO for harry to be called out. Harry has no chance to be King.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 08:46:30 pm
^I think it’s bigger than that.  For some, Harry’s just another, or last, straw.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 08:51:03 pm
 People want the BRF gone on the whole every last one of them it's just that Now harry is getting the heat of it.people just looking for a target and harry is right there easy. Charles people dont want him either he's still in  eyesight  


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 07, 2017, 09:20:09 pm
it could be a lot worse for Harry. Some were predicting he'd be another Prince Albert, a playboy having love children and then maybe settling down with a much younger woman when he reaches his fifties. If Harry did not marry he'd be trashed. Damned if he does damned if he doesn't.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 07, 2017, 09:58:22 pm
That's life. suck it up and deal with it


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 10:34:47 pm
^ :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2017, 12:52:57 am
That's life. suck it up and deal with it

What is he dealing with? What's life that he remain a bachelor? Who deals with what? Not sure what you meant.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Ariel on December 08, 2017, 12:04:42 pm
If Harry doesn't marry the predatory social climber he will take some heat. Not as much as if he marries her, but that's besides the point. That's life. He's a grown man - he needs to deal with the aftermath of his decisions. If he marries her and on day one of marriage he realizes that he's made a terrible mistake (as reports about who Meghan really is and what she stands for (me-me-me) are coming out before the marriage, unlike with Trump's candidacy where the leaks started after he became president (sorry for the OT, I just think the comparison is relevant, and I won't make it again)) - then he needs to stay married, watch how she drags not only him but his whole family down unless she gets what she wants - $$$$$$$, vacations, designer clothes, major bling, whitewashing, etc. etc. If that happens, and it will, if not on day one, give it time - day two will come too. Then he will need to suck it up and deal with it. That's life. Life is not all roses and grownups somehow learn to take responsibility for their life. If they don't do it willingly - life teaches them.  For example, every time I read this thread's name I accidentally read: Has Harry's popularity deceased of late and I always answer to myself: Duh. Let them go on beach vacation between Christmas and New Year and let those pics leak... the deceased part of his reputation will be just about right.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2017, 01:44:48 pm
Marriage is for two. Of course they will see each other differently after the marriage but they need to adjust and work on the marriage like all couples have to do. The royals vetted Meghan and had people studying her background. Anything untoward would have been discovered ages ago. But didn't Kate get major bling, designer clothes, lots of vacations too and didn't she want them? So why is Meghan singled out? Marriage takes work. If Meghan works for the Firm and does not defy protocol, she will be just fine.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 03:40:03 pm
Harry's always been popular because he's the naughty fun second son. And Meghan Markle is actually not a bad partner for the naughty bad boy royal. Proper girls may bore him. And eventually marriage is going to bore him. When that happens will he still be popular? Probably. People can villainize Meghan more. The question is will his next wife be somebody people like and will that make him more popular. Or will his choices get even worse? I just see this whole thing is morphing into something else but somehow I have a feeling Harry is going to come out okay with the public.


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: Ariel on December 08, 2017, 03:52:53 pm
I don't like comparisons. What Kate did or didn't do is not a good enough excuse for MEghan's shady past and character. The more people compare Meghan with X, Y, Z to make her look good, the more my opinion that Meghan has zero own light and the only way to be visible is by comparison, or by standing to someone else.

Unlike the Canadian posters, I've been watching the show and even on Suits she's not relevant, she's not interesting. Her character is only as important as what Mike makes of his relation with Rachel.

And that's pretty sad. She and her PR are trying so hard, so so hard yet - the only interesting thing about her is that she's a fraud. By relation, with the marriage, Harry will be seen as a fraud and we'll see if the illusion that he can overcome any scandal is going to hold this time.

After Vegas the solders started a campaign with naked pics in support of Harry. After the engagement announcement the troops are rumored to not want to curtsy or salute Meghan cause they've seen a bit too much of her..


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2017, 10:29:37 pm
I think it is natural to compare royals especially one about to enter the fold with her predecessors.

If she were a fraud, it would have been detected last year. Just saying.

Harry caused his own "faux pas" over the years. I don't get why he's not criticized. Meghan's not even there yet, it remains to be seen what will happen.

I think it premature too to talk about a "second marriage" for Harry.

And again a comparison: people saw a great deal of Kate too much of her...I'll go no further. She was even lauded by some for strutting around in her underwear on a catwalk. Is there one standard for Kate and another for Meghan?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: lesken on December 08, 2017, 10:53:11 pm
Well there is no evidence Meghan strutted around for anything but roles she had and maybe some photo shoots. But actresses do get racy roles, bedroom scenes and such as part of their career/job. The girl's school I went to did not encourage the industry children to attend. That was for another school. Mine was the more uptight one with debutantes and social clubs. (Yes we have them in L.A although it is not a prominent as back East or in the UK.) In my school days, snobby people didn't approve of show biz people even though that is what rules L.A. Things have changed I think. But show biz had a reputation of being more immoral, sex, drugs, etc. And acting in explicit roles is allowing people to know you intimately in the screen.  I wanted to pursue acting and my mom had a fit!!!!. I became a lawyer, and I have regrets. So that is why I think there is more charge to Meghan's roles than Kate's flashing. And, from what I saw, women often slept their way into roles, even small little ones. Not always, but it happened and still does. Can you imagine what King George the V would think of any actress in his family?


Title: Re: Has Harry's popularity decreased of late. ?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 08, 2017, 10:53:39 pm
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