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Title: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 01:11:09 am
Prince Harry left red-faced after being 'offered honeymoon with Meghan Markle’ in Antigua

PRINCE Harry was left red-faced tonight after the Prime Minister of Antigua invited him to spend his "honeymoon" with his new love Meghan Markle in the country.

In front of over 300 guests, the Prime Minister, Gaston Browne, made Harry grimace and look at his feet as he told the audience: "I believe we are expecting a new Princess soon.

"I want you to know that you are very welcome to come on your honeymoon here."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/734880/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-honeymoon-Antigua-caribbean-Gaston-Browne-trip


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 22, 2016, 01:22:29 am
That's what you get when you take up with a publicity hungry, damsel in distress drama queen. That prime minister is embarrassing though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 01:26:47 am
It's a bit of a faux pas by the PM but some politicians don't have a filter between brain and mouth. Nevertheless, he was only trying to be nice. Harry would have laughed it off in private, I think.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 01:28:18 am
if it was any other girl he would have said the same thing last tour he had when he was dating cressida someone shouted out to him if they will be getting married  .they need to cool it with the marriage talk . yeah harry was embarrassed   i would be too  if i was no where near marriage stage of dating .,but i bet when meg hears it she would love it i bet her phone blowing up with messages  :tehe:

his tour made front page now


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 22, 2016, 01:37:41 am
He CRINGED and looked at his shoes. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 01:47:35 am
On Royal tours local dignitaries and officials are given a bit of a briefing beforehand. They are not supposed to refer to the private life of the Royal on tour at all. However, in spite of these inappropriate things he said the PM was obviously just trying to be nice. Antigua is a beautiful place and IMO he was trying to promote it when he spoke, ie as a honeymoon destination. Harry will be fine. If this is the worst he encounters among the local politicians it will be a doddle!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 22, 2016, 01:51:53 am
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Harry fiddled with his shirt to avoid eye contact as the PM spoke.

But he was further embarrassed when Mr Browne teased him again just as he was due to meet six of the country's  beauty queens. "Whatever is done here, stays here. So do not worry," he joked.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/734880/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-honeymoon-Antigua-caribbean-Gaston-Browne-trip

He should be embarrassed.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 22, 2016, 01:56:04 am
That stupid letter he sent was such a bimbo move so close to the tour and this is the result.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 22, 2016, 02:11:13 am
Hmmmm.  Well, our Romeo has certainly painted himself into quite a corner, hasn't he?   8)

ETA:  Whoever called this one gets a gold star.  Right on cue, here's her personal essay published yesterday in Elle mag (from her tig.com blog, I believe) and how she struggles between the hollow yet profitable world of acting and championing against the sorrows of the world:

http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a40908/meghan-markle-personal-essay/ (http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a40908/meghan-markle-personal-essay/)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 06:55:02 am
the PM's remarks were in bad taste especially since he has no idea what the status of Harry's relationship really is

But - this sort of thing could push the relationship into unwanted territory - as Yooper said - expectations are being created

Why on earth is she getting an article in Elle mag?  She is not exactly a big star - her only status is as Harry's GF - so why?  Milking this for sure.  While he is on tour.  She would have to have given permission for the reprint from her blog.

I just cannot believe the BRF is happy about this.

Does she mention how she combines her championing of the sorrows of the world with fashion photo shoots??????

Harry whatever he does in his private time - is always a great representative of the Queen and it is so annoying that the positive results of such a tour have to be mingled with MM's printing an essay in Elle and such silly remarks from the PM.  Geez - if they are going to screw around with attention seekers - keep it private!!  I still wonder who let the news of this affair get out?  Why?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 07:04:48 am
IF MM wants to milk this, fine! She's not harming anyone and Harry isn't this vulnerable victim of an evil brazen scarlet woman. She has a career where she has to promote herself and frankly I am sick and tired of how Harry is being made out to be some victim. He's not. The PM made a cute remark and frankly it was harmless and not some major drama. It was an entertaining reference to his personal life that everyone knows about and I don't believe that MM is some evil woman. She's taking advantage of a chance to promote herself, that is her JOB and she isn't in a position to refuse offers. Is Harry such a great catch that he should be admired for treating a woman like dirt if she doesn't pass muster? She's doing her own business and using the chances she has.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 08:43:36 am
Yooper - check this out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3959346/Never-seen-childhood-photos-Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle.html#commentshttp://

the family is at it again - warning Harry not to hurt their lovely Meaghan and saying she'd make the perfect Aunt for George and Charlotte.

They are cornering him. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: camilapitanga on November 22, 2016, 09:51:43 am
I think this relationship screams pr..and probbally to deal with racism yeah..but i dont think its coming for her and i dont get why people keep saying she called her lawyers i mean did i missed something... :-

I think if anyone has anything to win with the race card is the royals who can use this women as a golden card to try to build a better image...unless she gets married to harry she has nothing to gain with this seriouslly...something just weird aboutt his relationship and the timing of how things were done...I totally agree...now what i dont get is why people are hating so much on the women :sly:

Shes not the first one to do such things ( the ex did worst and wasnt judged this way and the others well they were not wallflowers either) and hasnt done anything awfull or terrible...unless people can prove she obliged him to write that letter honestlly i dont get all this *despise* towards her...and even if she did its not like hes a baby who cant be responsible for his own actions and im sure people around him were not only awre but envolved with the letter so again..its bizarre to try to put all the blame on the women alone..like shes some devil...its andess already and if anything only makes the "racist " thing seems more and more real if u ask me..i mean why shes being treated at this extreme when all others have done worst and have been treated normally  bignono

Im not defending her at all seriouslly..but i do believe that people are overeracting and being very unfair with thsi women...its like theyre throwing at her all the *despise* and revolt they feel for the last 50 years...Its actually creepy and i dont think she deserves it seriouslly..its not her fault the royals are idiots...honestlly...

If anything this relationship will do is continue the damage the ex did on his reputation....he lost lots of fans already when he dated the ex...and now its just like the last drop...coz people expected that after that fiasco he would chose someone better..diferent and he went for the exact same type of women and is again at the same position...he doesnt change neitehr evolues and it jujst gets worst coz the wolrd is not disneyland anymore and hes no prince charming anymore...he has no carrer anymore it seems so yeah things will only get worst...and i totally agree with people being mad at him...but i think about the women...seriouslly...shes just like all others going with the flow and taking wtahever comes her way...i dont think she should get all this backlash in the end all this will only reinforces the idea of racism and gives her power if u ask me..and with good reason...people should calm down and think about it..coz if thee idea is to make these people look bad i tell iya by own experience it wont happen...its a waste of time...

The news of today are the trash of tomorrow...harry will conitnue to be a prince and loved and hated eventually...meghan or will become a royal and follow the same path or use this relationship for her own benefits...thats all...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 09:55:37 am
Camilitapanga - her lawyers filed a complaint with the KP letter to the press committee so she did have something to do with the KP letter -


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 22, 2016, 10:15:20 am
I think this relationship screams pr..and probbally to deal with racism yeah..but i dont think its coming for her and i dont get why people keep saying she called her lawyers i mean did i missed something... :-
Was confirmed, and  I believe they were together.  :wopedo: in the decision.

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However, Markle's lawyers are understood to believe it is demand from British newspapers that is encouraging global news outlets to report royal stories that the British press can then follow up - although tabloid sources have always denied that such ''story laundering'' takes place.

Prince Harry, whatever his right to a private life, is a public servant paid for by the public purse. If the allegations of harassment and bribes to Markle?s former boyfriends are borne out, one of the most surprising things is that his statement appears to have come before any attempt to protect the privacy of a relatively unknown actor or her anonymous family. Palace officials, as they have in the past, have acted as though the typical behaviour of celebrities - contacting the media regulator, making the terms of engagement clear - is beneath them.

Hours after the prince?s statement, Ipso, the industry regulator set up in the wake of Leveson and supported by most of the national press, sent a private advisory note including a letter from Markle?s lawyers urging editors to desist.

The response will say more about the relationship between tabloid editors and Theresa May, who will ultimately decide on press regulation, than it will about the relationship between a prince and an actor.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/09/prince-harrys-plea-to-newspaper-editors-has-slim-chance-of-success


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: camilapitanga on November 22, 2016, 10:27:24 am
Ok got it now...thanx for answering Cate  :thankyou:

Still dont think he wrote the letter coz of it...i think it was a PR thing and to benefit the royals not Meghan.This women gains nothing but *despise* and backlash so far..maybe it was based on something we dont know yet...but i dont see why would she want to make things this way and mostlly why would harry and the royals and everyone nvolved with them aprove of this...whathever the reason begind this letter it wasnt this women and her lawyers the ones responsible for it seriouslly... :June:

The letter was explicit about his intentions and i dont see any reason..racism or blackmailing...not even a pregnancy...that would had obliged him to write such type of letter if he didnt wanted to.For whathever reason...Be it PR or love or stopping a mad women from saying something he didnt wanted..he would never come out publiclly about her  this way he would had dealed things in secret honestlly...the letter had a purpose...maybe it  bakclashed or maybe just reached its goal..i guess only time will tell anyway whats behind this letter and the timing of it...now what i think is that this women obliging him to write a letter and being vilified for this just makes no sense...Sorry but hes a prince and shes a nobody...people are denying whats in front of them and trying to give this women super powers when shes just a nothing!!!!Coz theyre angry about the royals and especially harry and having a hard time to believe harry is dating her....and thats just getting out of control and more and more bizarre honestlly  :sigh:

Keep denying theyre dating and trying to find excuses to make the relationship unreal is a waste of time..the only person who can make this is harry himself...Until there honestlly me thinks that hating on the women instead of admitting that harry and the royals are way much more responsible for all this mess its just stupid and wrong not to mention a total waste of time as it will change nothing and these people will keep moving on with theyre amazing lifes while we waste our times discussing the same things over and over again....In the end it all comes down to the royals and harry being the bad ones in the situation not her...shes an opportunist...fame seekerr at the most and not diferent from any other women hes been envolved with since 2011 i guess...no big news so it dont explain people reactions towards her... bignono

So far the only mistake she did was posting those 2 pics on her ig ...as for the rest i dont see anything that can excuse the amount of *despise* shes receiveing...honestlly..it seems to me people just using the women as a punching bag to relase theyre *despise* against everything bad thats happenning in the world coz they think its ok to do so...And even though its funny i admitt its also getting quite heavy as far as i see and just sort of creepy serious if u ask me...again all this *despise* will only give her more and more amunition to fight back...and in case theyre really dating it will only make the relationship stronger  :bored:



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 10:42:50 am
https://twitter.com/Mirro...status/801009521254690816

'Our reporter @andylines spoke to people at reception - said #PrinceHarry was visibly upset at PM naming girlfriend Megan Markle in speech.'

Why upset?  He outed her - I can see embarrassed reaction - but visibly upset?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 10:57:02 am
There's not an awful lot of difference between embarrassment and visibly upset, only people's perceptions. Did he just go red and look annoyed, or were those people who said he looked 'upset' so near to him that they could see tears in his eyes or something.

Anyway, as others have pointed out the PM was completely out of line. Why is Harry being blamed for this man's faux pas?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 11:01:12 am
Either the PM was just being nice, or he was tweaking PH a bit, you know, saying he (the PM) can't be controlled.  Either way, Harry is acting a little bit like a princess and as YM said, he's been painted into quite a small and claustrophobic corner.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 11:41:40 am
Yooper - check this out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3959346/Never-seen-childhood-photos-Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle.html#commentshttp://

the family is at it again - warning Harry not to hurt their lovely Meaghan and saying she'd make the perfect Aunt for George and Charlotte.

They are cornering him. 

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Dave, East Sussex England, United Kingdom, about 3 hours ago
"Thomas warned that if the party-loving prince, who is famous for his fondness of a drink or two, hurts their beloved 'Megs', he would have Tyler to deal with."...................Charming!! Watch out Arry' looks like you're getting embroiled with a load of Hillbillies.............RUN FOR THEM THAR HILLS OLD SON!!!

I love this part of the comment!!!! lmao :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 22, 2016, 12:02:39 pm
Yooper - check this out

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3959346/Never-seen-childhood-photos-Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle.html#commentshttp://

the family is at it again - warning Harry not to hurt their lovely Meaghan and saying she'd make the perfect Aunt for George and Charlotte.

They are cornering him. 


Oh, good grief.  It certainly appears that way.  Her family makes the Midds look like amateurs.  This is troubling, to me: 
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The pair also said that Prince Harry better not hurt their beloved 'Megs'

Oh, really?  Or what?  What are you going to do?  Sue him? (likely)  Poke Harry in the nose?  This is a media, PR dream come true because they are US citizens and completely untouchable.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 22, 2016, 12:17:48 pm
I think that the PM was just having a laugh and using the joke to promote the country as a honeymoon destination. Anyway my interest is Harry's reaction. It's still odd that he'd be either embarrassed or upset if he was dating her and things were ok. He would've just laughed it off. When the toor ends we'll see if they're really together because she should be finished filming and he should have free time.
KF,she's free to do her own thing but her constant pr stunts at promoting herself is on the back of her relationship with Harry. He's gotten rid of other women for doing far less than Meghan.
Maybe it's good that the PM did that and he's being somewhat pressured into a future marriage with her. All the better to either dump the drama queen, if he hasn't already, to examine if the relationship can go the distance.
^the more they do things like that the more they show their true colors; pr, raising her profile. Regardless of the stage of the relationship, dealing with Mehgan will get this kind of press and her continuing to use him to advance herself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 01:53:20 pm
Her family needs to hush it .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 22, 2016, 02:14:28 pm
^Yeah, that ain't gonna happen although it should.  My nose tells me that if there's money to be made, they're SO in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 02:20:59 pm
True . I wonder if she's the only child of Tom  and Doris looks that .cause it's only sis and bros on her father side that won't shut it .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 22, 2016, 02:47:29 pm
^Her family and the inner dynamics remains somewhat fuzzy to me so am no help there. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 03:57:07 pm
This has just taken a turn into Tacky Territory.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 04:00:50 pm
Quelle surprise! :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 22, 2016, 04:07:16 pm
^Indeed. This fiasco is dumber than the Vegas episode.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 04:46:48 pm
Meghan is the only child of her parents Doria and Thomas Markle. Thomas Markle, who was a lighting director, was married before. His son Thomas Markle Jnr has two sons Tyler and Thomas and lives in Oregon. They are Meghan's half brother and nephews or half-nephews. Thomas Markle Jnr has the sister Samantha Grant who lives in Florida, is wheelchair-bound and said things on Facebook about Meghan, her half-sister.

Meghan's mother hasn't spoken. She is sixty and a clinical therapist. She divorced Thomas Markle Snr when Meghan was six. Meghan's father Thomas hasn't spoken either.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 04:55:59 pm
 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 22, 2016, 05:08:56 pm
Harry derseves it. Hopefully he will now see that it's nit the press - it's the GF and her big extended money hungry family. The 'family' sold the never-seen-before picture (as if anyone cares)... yet I do not believe it. During her 2 day stay in London Meghan managed to find where the DM building is .. in carefully selected statement outfit. After that the DM posted a vid of Meghan's 'press day in London' and now DM gets exclusives from her 'family'. I think that our sweetheart did her research on this forum, read what Cressida and co did and now she follows the same plan but without the mistakes she did... by trying to bully her way into the family. I hope Charles intervenes much sooner this time and that Harry sobbers up much sooner.. or it might be too late later


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 05:24:55 pm
Thank you Rosella

her mother and father has not said a word ,but yet her half siblings on her father side can't keep hush.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 22, 2016, 05:53:33 pm
To me this is  :tehe: :laugh:
IMO, she's a fling that should've stayed quiet. She ha$ everything to gain by outing the relationship and make it bigger and romantic than it is. She's getting racked over the coals on the DM site for her his latest piece.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 05:53:54 pm
Samantha, the half sister who said nasty  things on Facebook about Meghan and then denied it is interviewed on Entertainment Tonight.

http://www.etonline.com/news/203451_meghan_markle_s_sister_reveals_her_normal_upbringing_likens_her_to_princess_diana/


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 22, 2016, 06:05:43 pm
She seemed to have nothing to do with any of them after she moved to Canada for the show, so they don't know anything extra about what's going on with her now. Her family doesn't fit into the manufactured image of herself. They're making complete fools of themselves, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 08:02:03 pm
in the ET interview meghan and Samantha just started talking again last year . first she trashed her then backtracked and said she never said anything like that now she's giving an interview talking about great Meaghan is.

family can really screw you over.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 08:08:57 pm
Methinks Samantha heard the sound of hundred dollar bills being whisked out of her hands after she slammed Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 08:16:19 pm
look - if Meaghans relationship with Harry is still on go - she'd shut her family down.  This is damaging to her and the RF.  She surely can call them - tell them they are endangering the relationship and even pay them to shut up if they really are that awful.  No way you could convince me she has no control over them. 

The sister compared Meaghan to Diana in that interview - how well do you think that is going over in the UK or in the BRF?

There is something so off here - Harry is visibly upset when she gets mentioned - yet she is publishing essays in a national teen magazine on the first day of his tour?  her half brother is giving interviews on the second day?  And on the third day her sister goes on a national gossip TV program? 

There is something wrong with this woman - read her Elle essay - she invented a whole story bout dishwashing liquid and how she got an ad banned - except it is a complete lie - there was no such ad -  other people researched it - no such ad during her lifetime.  She just makes stories up to self aggrandize herself - this is not a healthy chick..



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 08:29:50 pm
What a tangled web we weave when first we struggle to deceive. She really shouldn't have lied, the media and people will research and find out every last one of her lies. She's doomed from the moment she outed the relationship for the sake of her ego and money.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 08:32:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFl-qrsMQpQhttp://

video of Harry right after or towards the end of the PM's Meaghan remarks

Harry looks very very uncomfortable - almost teary.

He screwed up - he knows it.

This is over IMHO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 08:35:36 pm
yeah he looks uncomfortable

Embarassed Prince Harry turns down dance in Antigua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhU4voUBIUE


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Little light on November 22, 2016, 08:36:40 pm
I thought I saw a flicker of panic in his eyes just after the word honeymoon was mentioned.

And thanks for posting too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on November 22, 2016, 09:05:14 pm
I feel so bad for him. He wanted the relationship to be private and now it's eclipsing his tour. So sorry for him. I doubt his eyes welling up because he dumped her. Never I have I see this look in his eyes before.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 09:16:34 pm
If that's the look that comes to his eyes when he thinks of Meghan and this whole situation she's done for, if they haven't broken up yet they will soon enough...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 22, 2016, 09:18:08 pm
^ he looked like he was just kicked in his  banana  :tehe:

well all those "nightly legal battles" should have been getting her family to shut it up . If it was me i know i would have estranged family members coming out talking  like they know me it sucks you really can't control family who you don't talk to in years.  you think Meghan and her lawyers would have done something once the sister first start talking ever since this news broke it was handle bad it showed what amateurs are working at KP .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 22, 2016, 09:24:38 pm
I don't feel sorry for him one bit. You keep hanging around fame hungry people, stomping your feet and issuing demands, then you are a willing participant in the game. Therefore, he should be proud, not angry because the PM is just marketing his island. After all, just like everyone else, he's assuming because of that letter, the wedding is next  month. He made his bed now he must lie down in it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 09:46:12 pm
Like his mom, he has a very expressive face, and that is definitely panic at the mention of honeymoon.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 10:31:25 pm
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle says she 'wants to focus less on glass slippers and more on pushing through glass ceilings'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3962272/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-says-wants-focus-glass-slippers-pushing-glass-ceilings.html#ixzz4QmO0ES8x

I don't feel sorry for him one bit. You keep hanging around fame hungry people, stomping your feet and issuing demands, then you are a willing participant in the game. Therefore, he should be proud, not angry because the PM is just marketing his island. After all, just like everyone else, he's assuming because of that letter, the wedding is next  month. He made his bed now he must lie down in it.

He has no business standing up for her one minute and then acting like she's just embarrassed him. HE isn't doing important things on the overall scheme of things. He wants to be taken seriously, he needs to act and BE serious in his private life as well as his public life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 22, 2016, 11:03:38 pm
More pretentious nonsense. She wants to empower women but is now acting like a fake hungry media wh*re who used her fling with Harry to get a higher profile and money, IMO.
Not to keep beating this to death, I'd be highly shocked if Harry was aloud to issue that statement without legal counsel. To me, she's showing that she's not going to go away and is a leach who'll use him until kingdom come. I've no idea what could make her stop the madness of her family issuing interviews or her popping to London for photo ops outside of KP. As someone already stated, this woman and her family has issued something everyday that Harry's been on tour.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 22, 2016, 11:20:07 pm
yeah he looks uncomfortable

Embarassed Prince Harry turns down dance in Antigua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhU4voUBIUE
I think he even expected the comment about Meghan, but he did not expect  VEGAS.

I do not doubt him dating, and continue with Meghan :sigh:.......... for liking her and for not giving this joy to the media/press
Even more after the 'declaration'   :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 11:23:00 pm
Ahhhh so here we get to see more of her agenda and why she's using him. I'm with you on this one windsor2.

Seriously she needs to get over herself, I'm all for female empowerment but that doesn't mean I would use a well-known man to make myself more public to get there, feminist means equality for both sexes. Hence treat Harry and his position with the same respect she wishes to be treated with since being a feminist means you feel men and women should be treated with the equal amount of respect and consideration, but instead lies and manipulates situations and brings in her legal team to do it for her, hence I've no respect for her at all. It's women like her that give other women a bad rap so because of her whoever Harry dates afterwards will be treated to an ever greater level of scrutiny which NEITHER of them deserve.

Furthermore:
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Meghan you need to shut your chronicly lying mouth and educate yourself girl. :stop: She's a borderline misandrist if she isn't one already and just covering it up like she does with everything else.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 22, 2016, 11:57:37 pm
All I know is that anyone who thinks they deserve special treatment just because they are a woman is NOT a feminist.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 12:00:56 am
Exactly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 23, 2016, 12:01:34 am
Regarding Miss Markle's siblings' verbal diarrhea, that is embarrassing to all.  But it's nothing, NOTHING, compared to having a (videotaped) drug-dealing pimp relative to whom you and your family are financially beholden.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: deGuernsey on November 23, 2016, 12:05:16 am
^ouch!   :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 12:36:48 am
^^True dat.  I'd like to, however, not play "at least they're not as bad as...".  Not exactly a ringing endorsement to say, "Well, at least her family aren't drug dealer/pimps".  And, frankly, we don't know that they aren't.  Ungle G came up a little later in the game if I recall properly.  I'm a wee bit tired of ugly surprises.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 23, 2016, 12:52:48 am
I've been following the royals for years and I have never seen Harry look that way.  He is usually very professional and goes with the flow - diplomatic. 

Yes sure KP might have handled the family but frankly that is not their style - unless there was an engagement KP is not scripting the family.  That is up to Meaghan and you'd think for someone so careful about crafting an image she would have shut that end down.  If she knows this relationship is not going far - then maybe allowing her family to pick up a couple thousand dollars whilst polishing her image (in her eyes) is okay. 

Gawd that article is such drivel - real lack of awareness demonstrated here.




Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 01:16:59 am
^OH, man, the article is drippy, self-serving, preachy and just lame.  You summed it up better than I, however.  I really think she thinks she's that influential and important. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2016, 01:37:43 am
Actually empowering herself would in fact be starting with respecting herself and if she did, it would all come from there. I am certain that she wants to be respected, but you can't command respect, you can only start with yourself and the rest will spring from there. Certainly, she isn't going about it the right way. You don't just turn your self respect on and off and expect people to treat you how you want to be treated, when you want to.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 23, 2016, 02:33:01 am
^she's acting like she's not just a fling. She lost all sense of respecting herself when she agreed to become this fake persona. She also lacked respect when she dumped her chef boyfriend to go mess with Harry. Harry's most likely embarrased because she's caused so much trouble in such a short time. She wants to make money off of his back now and won't shut up or go away. Unfortunately for her though, people are seeing right through her and her machinations so she's going to end up messing herself up and suffer humiliation as influential people like Trudeaus will start to distance themselves from her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 03:25:57 am
The look Harry had on his face is the same look I use when I'm done with someone, done with the situation, done with the embarrasment and discomfort I'm feeling at that moment and would like nothing better than to leave, done with life type of sh*te. He looks sick to death of this situation already and tense, he just seems off because he's trying too hard to be "on" during this trip, meanwhile he's entirely aware of the Meghan situation and his head just isn't in it all the way. If I wasn't sure someone gave him a sound talking to at some point about the screw up of making that statement and about Meghan I am now. He looked half chastized and half ready to bail caused he's just over the whole thing. The blush is off the rose for sure.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 04:11:24 am
I think it was cate (not sure) who fact-checked the whole dish detergent/feminist story she throws around everywhere and embellishes a little bit each time.  Anyway, can somebody (cate?) let me know if I read it right that the whole story was, in fact, not accurate nor could be because of when this supposedly happened?  I need it for something/somebody.  Thank you!!!

^A similar thing happened to me that happened to Harry and it popped into my head.  My late husband and I were dating but keeping it quiet.  We knew we were going to get married but were not really super talking about it but we just knew.  But, we also wanted to keep it to ourselves because of a lot of reasons.  At a party, without me, somebody had too much to drink and just announced the whole thing in front of him.  "Gonna get married, arentcha?"  My husband's immediate reaction?  A huge smile.  He was so happy about the whole thing! Everybody called me the next day.  So, not that I know that that's the case here but you may be on to something.  Who knows?  Harry could be just wanting to keep it under wraps but I do have to ask myself, "Why?"  Why not just be joyful about a possibility like that?  So, I don't know but he appeared more embarrassed than anything else.  I would've been in tears if my husband had looked embarrassed about that and my friends/gossip would've been reserved towards me.  It would've been over between us or at least not what I had envisioned.

That's all I know from my usual fact-based, yet totally knowing nothing, observation.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 23, 2016, 04:24:45 am
Yooper - her contention is that as an 11 year old she was already a great advocate for women's rights  because she was exposed to a TV commercial for dish detergent as a grease cutter  that was sexist and she then wrote a letter protesting it hence they removed the commercial - the power of Meaghan!

She was apparently challenged about this on her blog and subsequently said the detergent was Ivory.  Now Ivory has NEVER advertised itself as a grease cutter - it always advertised as gentle on the hands etc.  Dawn is the grease cutter.  Also - perusal of the Ivory ads over the years since 1970  indicates they never had the commercial she describes.  Hence not possible for her to have had the commercial removed - it did not exist.

The middle aged among us should recall that by the late 70's overtly women in the kitchen with her apron on ads (as Meaghan describes) had become verboten because of a campaign waged by Gloria Steinheim and NOW.  The typical detergent ad by the late 70's and onwards showed a woman in a power suit managing kids, dirty dishes and her career all at once. 

Yooper I agree - if he really is so in love - he might  have responded to that typically with perhaps an embarrassed smile.  Not the look of acute unhappiness and dismay. 

Just another thought - I am amazed her family is doing these interviews but on second thought - without the family interviews - there would be no Meaghan in the news - the story would die absent new info.  So could it be the stream of family interviews is simply to keep her name out there as much as possible? 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 04:29:12 am
What's certain is the Markle clan is laughing all the way to the bank.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 05:50:42 am
^^Thank you, cate!!!  I received a phone call after the Elle article came out, more of a venting one, and then I mentioned this information but didn't have the post at the ready to really speak intelligently about it.  Now, I understand much better the timing of it and it's absolutely true about Ivory soap and advertising during that period of time.  Thanks again.  You've been really helpful and I'll pass this on.  I smell damage control in LA-LA Land.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 05:57:28 am
What are the odds if this ends badly she may end up getting black listed by certain network/companies/etc? :June:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: kolkomilko on November 23, 2016, 08:07:02 am
I have the feeling it will be a momentary romance. They can't be seen together (why?), the news are about Meghan, Harry drawed back. Is it normal?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2016, 08:24:18 am
So what if her family talks? Is there some kind of law that states that no one can speak out, lest the 'official' girlfriend be compromised? Or that the pillow talk the prince indulges in suddenly be all state secrets and vital to the Commonwealth's security? I am so sick of how the Windsors demand so much silence, as if so much is so sacred and holy that everyone is under some kind of obligation to stop talking and keep it all secret.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 23, 2016, 08:33:47 am
YM, what a sweet story about your late husband  :flower:  perfect example of a genuine, heartfelt reaction.  I'm afraid that's not at all what we have here - it was panicky discomfort plain and simple.

The story-per-day on MM is not a coincidence.  All is being driven by her PR firm to ensure she is not overshadowed by Harry's tour, and it is interfering with Harry's ability to do his job effectively.  She's quite the narcissist.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2016, 09:14:11 am
The RF is loaded with narcissists. Like attracts like.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 09:22:13 am
In this case she's going to get roasted. Can you imagine what Charles is like right now? :nervous:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2016, 10:29:15 am
..probably calm and poised while typing on google search: how do I blacklist an actress from Hollywood


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 10:48:42 am
You do realize why she didn't accept Harry's offer of private security right? Because it would mean someone payed for by Harry would be following her around 24/7 thereby making it impossible if not very difficult to have a conversation with her PR people on how to further manipulate and scheme her way to the top using this "relationship". One minute she's b*tching and complaining about harrassed by the media and feeling threatened and as soon as he says he'd pay for it she's all "it's flattering, but unnecessary". Who does that if they feel Ssssoooooo unsafe unless they've got something to hide they don't want certain other people listening in and finding out about. Having private round the clock protection would ruin everything for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 23, 2016, 12:24:20 pm
^ According to the original article about Harry offering private security it was supposedly  for an ex RPO while Meghan was in Britain. He didn't offer it, as far as I remember, for her in Canada or the US.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 23, 2016, 01:07:45 pm
Meghan Markle's 'Suits' co-star Sarah Rafferty calls her relationship with Prince Harry 'very exciting'
Meghan Markle isn't the only one excited about her new relationship with Prince Harry. The Suits actress' co-star Sarah Rafferty gave the new couple her seal of approval. "I don't comment on my castmates' personal lives, but of course, it's very exciting," Sarah told the AP. "And I'm very happy for her."
http://us.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/12016112219060/sarah-rafferty-excited-meghan-markle-prince-harry-relationship/



Meghan Markle on her future plans for starting a family and how her life has changed

Meghan Markle opened up in the fall issue of Lifestyle magazine about her “amazing” life and aspirations for a family. "I dream big and bigger! My life is more amazing than I ever thought it could be,” the 35-year-old told the publication that hit stands in September. “I dreamt [of becoming] a successful working actress, which I can now very thankfully tick off the list.”
http://us.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/12016112219050/meghan-markle-personal-aspirations-giving-back/






Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 01:25:39 pm
This girl is sick, every flipping day she has to be carping on in the media while Harry's working. :ick: :thumbsdown: :stop:  :angry: :bat:

No wonder Harry looked rigid and doing the self-comforting hand touching thing he does when he's nervous or distressed, just like he did with the Cressida engament rumours while in Dubai. :there: Like the commenter Dave from the DM said: Run for them thar hills old son!!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on November 23, 2016, 02:07:15 pm
What if h proves the theories wrong about breaking up soon or already has and won't ever let this "user" near him again. His reaction in the video can be interpreted as several things. What or how would some of guys think about Harry and meg?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2016, 02:24:13 pm
I've been having this feeling that Meg has been preparing to meet H ever since the split from Cress and that she's aware of what Harry's miss mystery should look like and
what she should enjoy doing. She's morphed into this image that if there was no mismatch between her words and her actions she would have been perfect. I'm starting to see why the astrologers advise him to wait for the next love (or get this one to wait a few years).

^ This is what I think:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e5/93/89/e593893807e9ece5ea05f11173d2cadf.jpg (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e5/93/89/e593893807e9ece5ea05f11173d2cadf.jpg)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 23, 2016, 02:27:38 pm
Who says they're going to end the dating? These theories have no basis, they are of people who are against the couple. For me the relationship is very serious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 23, 2016, 02:30:26 pm
Harry assumed to the world that he is dating her, defended her from the troll attacks, he never did it for another girlfriend. For me he is very interested in her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 02:44:06 pm
^Welcome to the forum!  I encourage you to read the forum rules before posting.  One of them is we discourage double postings (one after the other) which you have done here. As excited as members get over their opinions, double posting confuses the flow.  You're super new so there's a lot of slack given on my part, for now.  

Please use the ^ arrows to respond to members' posts as well, moving forward.  If you have any questions please pm me, Alexandrine or any other long standing member. TY. YM  


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 23, 2016, 02:49:15 pm
ok  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 23, 2016, 04:03:00 pm
Something sick and scary just occurred to me.  What if Harry has given his blessing to this MM PR rollout during his tour?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2016, 04:11:37 pm
if he thinks that she's the one - and the PR is approved - then they do a really good job at warming people up to the idea of Megan being perfect for him. But somehow I get the feeling that he's strongarmed.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 23, 2016, 04:24:13 pm
^^ When Harry's on duty he's completely professional. There is no way on this earth, I believe, that he wished, wanted, arranged or anything else for the spotlight to be elsewhere while he is representing his grandmother the Queen. Harry's very proud of his grandmother.  He is in the Caribbean as her representative at several independence celebrations of these nations  and it would be incredibly rude for Harry to feel that his private life would intrude on that. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 23, 2016, 04:57:12 pm
^agreed.
Maybe it's good that she's going full force with her pr push. It's all the more annunciation against her when she officially gets the boot. Her pr firm is pushing stories about her to the press.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 23, 2016, 05:11:43 pm
 
     ^
I don't think Meghan is pushing stories to the press. They are scouring her life, her past, so much that they are posting interviews she gave long before she met Harry, as if they were current.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 05:48:12 pm
Any articles that feature her own writing is most assuredly done by Meghan herself.  That is indisputable.  And she gets paid for them so I cannot put that on the media.  That is a self-driven PR push. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 23, 2016, 06:06:45 pm
Notice that the DM has been adding in their articles about the tour that due to their busy schedules,  Meghan shooting her tv show in Canada and Harry on tour, they'll not be able to see each other until late December unless she travels to see him the next fortnight (the 2 weeks he's on tour). Sounds like they've already broken up and this will be the excuse. Meanwhile, she'll keep up the pretense that she's still dating/whatever, in order to milk the pr. My hope is that after the tour, it comes out that Harry parted ways with her before the tour making her look like the desperate, phony attention seeker she is.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 23, 2016, 06:16:23 pm
Harry's bagged a great deal! Prince's new girlfriend Meghan Markle was once a glamorous assistant on the US version of gameshow Deal or No Deal

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3965420/Harry-s-bagged-great-deal-Prince-s-new-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-glamorous-assistant-version-gameshow-Deal-No-Deal.html#ixzz4QrCURwW9
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keep up DM this isn't brand new information .Thats an awful pic of her in that red dress


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 06:27:25 pm
^This looks like a revenge article, to me, from the DM.  Messing with the press?  Be careful.  But, yep, this is old news and so what?  She worked on a dumb show.

Thanksgiving is upon me but the issue of the "How I became a feminist because of a tv commercial" thing has sparked the interest of people who are, from early contacts I have, not happy.  Not happy at all.  But, I'll get what info that I can, when I can after the cook-a-thon ahead.  In the world of showbiz, embellishment is to be expected and even encouraged.  Outright lies, especially when involved in a global arena such as the UN, is professional suicide.  

If it is truly a lie, and it appears to be, the question would be what else is not true?  Why make up such a story?  It's not good ink.  It's absurd self-promotion and then dragging in an elected official into the mix in California, to whom MM supposedly wrote to all outraged?  Really dumb.  I believe it's Barbara Boxer she mentioned.  Anybody with a brain would question the trust factor with someone who would risk everything to make themselves look like such a warrior for women's issues.

Most importantly, forget about the fundraising and philanthropic community welcoming you in.  Anyone caught out in a lie will not be welcome.  Our integrity and trust from people is more precious than anything.

Again, IF this is proven to be a lie (and that's what it is if the facts don't add up), and the BRF's only true purpose is to be discreet, trustworthy and philanthropic, no boxes tick there for her, I'm afraid.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 23, 2016, 06:37:45 pm
I would like to know what else has she done for women rights after that dish liquid  commercial?  cause thats all thats ever talked about in any article  is that dish liquid commercial . so from when she was 11 now 35 what else has to more.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 23, 2016, 06:44:38 pm
^You're a smart cookie, Fly.  That is the question out there right now.  Where else can information be found that is supportive of her stance and activity on women's issues to counter this questionable, yet ubiquitous, story?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 23, 2016, 07:04:36 pm
 :tehe:
She' s dating a prince so that the other women will be forced to make it on their own  :tehe:
She' s doing a lot for us actually  :flower: ( I' m ironic)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 23, 2016, 07:07:11 pm
Interesting quote.  :cookie:

Quote
Sue Veneer, Los Angeles, United States, about 29 minutes ago
She appears too happy in her Insta photo to have recently gone through a breakup, so that's a good sign, a good sign indeed. Fingers crossed these two make it! :-) Let's be positive, guys. It's the holiday season. Don't be such grinches. Love is a beautiful thing which should be celebrated! I for one am very happy for them. Bless!
New3514
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3965420/Harry-s-bagged-great-deal-Prince-s-new-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-glamorous-assistant-version-gameshow-Deal-No-Deal.html#comments-3965420

^ :tehe:

She's been caught in the tv ad lie and the reporters trying to break into her house. It makes you think of what else she's lying about.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2016, 07:13:59 pm
She went to Rwanda to make perfect pics with pretty African kids and then wrote an inspiring article on how lucky she is to be chosen among so many women by H.

^^ if she's from humble backgound there will not be any giving back cause there's nothing to give until you set up your life to have enough. and I think that this is the case for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 23, 2016, 07:15:16 pm
Well that IG pic if that's the one she's talking about with the turkey that was last year Thanksgiving. Of course she would look happy the turkey looks nice .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 23, 2016, 07:33:05 pm
Re: what else has she done for women?  Does her character on Suits serve as an inspiring role model for little girls?  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 23, 2016, 08:03:55 pm
The amount of *despise* this woman is getting and the some of the labels that are being placed upon her does not sit well with me. I really enjoy visiting this forum and I appreciate the different opinions but I feel like a lot of what is said about Meghan (here and other places) is unwarranted. Rather than keep this bottled up, here are my thoughts and observations. This is not directed at any one poster on this board but is an observation of responses to this situation on all platforms:

1.) MM is all about the paparazzi attention
: Since the news broke, this woman has been papped a total of 3 times. One was outside of her house, another was in London, and the last was on the set of her show. I'm American and have watched Suits. Dressed the way she was in London, I could have been standing right next to her and not recognized her. Some have argued that she must have called the paps and that she was soaking up the attention just because she was smiling. If she hadn't been smiling, folks would say that she and Harry are on the outs or that she was trying to play the "poor me, the press wont leave me alone" card. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. Last I checked, Cressy was "randomly" papped walking down the street, shopping, etc, etc practically twice a week in the month after her relationship with Harry was outed. Same can be said for Pippa in the month after the press started pushing the narrative of her and Harry. Again, she's been photographed THREE WHOLE TIMES.

2.) She's an attention seeker/outed the relationship via social media: The pics used to make this argument are the banana picture and the tea picture. There is zero about this picture that would indicate Harry was who she was talking about in either of these posts. Having been in love myself, I'm not going to fault her for her posts. If it weren't for the original story that speculated she was the one, folks wouldn't have felt the need to dig up a picture that was published BEFORE the news broke. Speaking of which, all of the original articles were non-American publications, right? No C-list American actress who's truly trying to get a come up is going to leak something like this to a publication outside of the US. I'm more inclined to believe it was someone connected with Harry who wanted to force him into position to break things off. The American press has more of a vested interest in blowing the story (and her star power) up and would have been a much better pay off for her. Besides that, if it was just about getting some shine, why wait this long to leak it when its been going on for months?

3.) She's the one leaking the stories: Since the beginning, the only state-side "sources" that are running their mouths are on one side of her family. Meghan most likely hasn't talked to these people in years. If anyone should be labeled as attention seekers, it should be them. The people she seems to be the closest to and are actually a part of her life (including the ex boyfriend and her mom) have kept their mouths shut.  

4.) Finding fault with the statement Harry released: This being used as an excuse to blame Harry for MM & his current treatment by the press and in comments is BS. If what was being said wasn't being said, there would have been no reason to release the statement. IMO, folks are angry that he called out the coded language in some of those articles that helped to exacerbate the already sexist and racist comments under articles and on social media.   Many people would rather remain in denial, which is why weeks after the fact some can't seem to move past it.

I really don't have a vested interest in who Harry ends up with. Do I think this will last? Who knows but I'm leaning toward no. It will run it's course, Meghan will get a little bit of a boost, and the world will continue to turn. I just feel like this girl has two strikes against her (American, woman of color) and, no matter how much folks try to say it doesn't affect their perception, things that would be would be reasoned away for others are used against MM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 23, 2016, 08:26:45 pm
I think we are well past there being any reality to this relationship - I think it is over. This sort of pr blitz she is engaged in is not at all what KP would approve.  This is no princess roll out - the opposite - it is a typical celeb pr blitz.

Hello mag is reporting she has a fashion shoot and  interview coming out in Lifestyle magazine in a few days wherein she speaks of her desire to have kids.  More coy suggestions she is with Harry but I think she is not.

And the comments on the tab sites continue to be horrific - although now they are backing off criticizing Harry.  More about her fame seeking.

I could be way wrong - but I think the fling is over.  I suspect we are not the only ones who have picked up on her relentless exaggerations and attention seeking.





Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 23, 2016, 08:33:50 pm
My problem with this woman is more to do with her failed marriage and how she ditched the chef the first chance she got, as well as her profession as an actress and seller of a lifestyle brand. And those two instagram posts are first class game playing, period. I criticized Cressida for carrying books to a memorial service and this is along the same line.

No one can tell me that an actress from L.A. doesn't understand that being in the public domain invites all sorts, whether fans or so called haters. Just ask gwyneth Paltrow, a very privileged white woman, by the way. No, she's subjected to scrutiny just like all his previous girlfriends and flings. The only difference is none of them came with lawyers blazing and crying racism.

I'm ticked off that she's trivializing such an important problem to advance her personal agenda. There are people who are the victims of racism every day and she's not one of them. And lastly, she comes across as a self absorbed, publicity hungry, larger than life only  in her mind twit. Her family is also tacky as hell.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 23, 2016, 08:50:47 pm
^^ :thumbsup:
^preach. You said it better than I could.  :thumbsup: :worship:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 23, 2016, 09:12:44 pm
Suits star Meghan Markle visits Rwanda for World Vision's clean water campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyqRSUV2G9A


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 23, 2016, 09:25:09 pm
Sorry but imo no doubt that Meghan' s family is tacky but I think Meghan herself should stop them, she should have a talk with them forbidding them to say anything, I think it' s also Meg' s fault since IMHO she should prevent them from releasing those kinds of interviews.
If I was dating Harry ( sorry he' s not my type and I' m happily engaged) I would definitely forbid and prevent any relative of mine to leak anything.
I would say something kinda like: " If you leak anything Harry will ditch me, this is not a normal relationship, this is something totally different and if you leak Harry will leave me and you will be the ones to blame for that break up".
The BRF needs discretion and Meghan and her family are not descreet at all


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 23, 2016, 09:37:25 pm
^Agreed. But the family is not just leaking, they are giving interviews talking about Harry's death mother, his nephew and niece (they have nothing to do with any of this, by the way), and threatening Harry not to hurt MM. That's just ridiculous and overly thirsty behavior that MM herself is engaging in, albeit less overtly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 23, 2016, 09:40:59 pm
^ Agree, that' s why I said it is also Meg' s fault, not only hers at all.
I mean she should tell them to stop and  not to give interviews . I think it pleases her that her family' s talking about her.
If I was Meg I would shut my family up


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 23, 2016, 10:31:49 pm
^ you can't. you can ask politely but if your family love the idea of an income source for an old pic or an interview .. you can't stop them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 10:42:40 pm
Says a lot about her family then...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: deGuernsey on November 23, 2016, 10:55:44 pm
^ It could just be me since I am not following PH too closely but this seems a mess and to just go on and on and on... :dontknow: :prokates: :prokates:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 11:19:23 pm
That's because it is a mess and it does just keep going on and getting worse because of a certain someone who doesnt seem to know how to stop lying.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 23, 2016, 11:19:38 pm
Meghan may be a candidate for attention, after all she is an actress, lives in the light of the spotlight, but I do not think this a serious defect. Since Harry assumed that he is dating her, she has kept quiet. She continues to post on instagran, but this is understandable, she is an actress, works on tv, has fans, many followers, why should she close the profile? And she did not post anything that would compromise Harry. Regarding the 2 year marriage, this is not so unusual to happen. From what I learned, they dated for years before they were married, and some couples who dated many years, when they go to live together, may not work. And we don't know what really happened. I don't like to judge people. I liked Meghan. At least she's an independent woman who earn her own money.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on November 24, 2016, 12:08:40 am
I am more concerned about her being a divorced actress than an American woman of color.

Second marriages have higher divorce rates than first marriages. Most of the time, it's better to work through the problems than get divorced (most divorces these days are from low-conflict marriages). A plus is that she doesn't have kids from that marriage. I feel like in marriages where one party has children from a previous relationship, there can be a temptation to put the kid(s) first instead of the spouse. Everyone wants to do everything for their kids, and of course kids should be provided for. But people forget that the kids are supposed to eventually grow up, move out and have lives of their own. The spouse/marriage should come first.

Actresses' jobs are to seek attention to promote their careers, although she has been pretty quiet since this broke out. But it could also be timing... right now it's the holidays and I think things might be low-key until the new year starts and then we'll see what happens. Not sure what the film/release schedule for 'Suits' is like because I don't watch that show.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on November 24, 2016, 01:05:15 am
This whole thing reeks of revenge of the one night stand.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 24, 2016, 01:16:50 am
If that's it, this is even uglier than I thought.  :sob:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 24, 2016, 01:45:49 am
Meghan may be a candidate for attention, after all she is an actress, lives in the light of the spotlight, but I do not think this a serious defect. Since Harry assumed that he is dating her, she has kept quiet. She continues to post on instagran, but this is understandable, she is an actress, works on tv, has fans, many followers, why should she close the profile? And she did not post anything that would compromise Harry. Regarding the 2 year marriage, this is not so unusual to happen. From what I learned, they dated for years before they were married, and some couples who dated many years, when they go to live together, may not work. And we don't know what really happened. I don't like to judge people. I liked Meghan. At least she's an independent woman who earn her own money.


1. it is a serious defect - this is the RF - not some H Wood family.  It is serious - the stability of the British state.  Association with celeb culture will be the death of the RF - the UK people want decorum from their RF not H Wood pr bamboozling.  The comments in the Brit tabloids show just how displeased they are with her.

2.  She has not kept "quiet" - she has been rattling her pr machine like crazy - the tree IG pics, the pap stroll in Harry's cap and boots, the essay published in Elle and now the interview for Lifestyle magazine.  It is as if this was all timed for the anonymous reveal of the relationship - no coincidence here.

3.  Of course she has posted things that compromised Harry - the Breakfast of Champions implying his sexual prowess - the spooning bananas implying the were having sex - that is compromising. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 24, 2016, 01:47:47 am
The BRF is such a drama filled mess, they have no business putting on airs of importance in any area. Let her do her PR thing and let her have fun with it. If he proposes and she accepts, okay, but the BRF needs the press and plays to the gallery all the time.

Meghan may be a candidate for attention, after all she is an actress, lives in the light of the spotlight, but I do not think this a serious defect. Since Harry assumed that he is dating her, she has kept quiet. She continues to post on instagran, but this is understandable, she is an actress, works on tv, has fans, many followers, why should she close the profile? And she did not post anything that would compromise Harry. Regarding the 2 year marriage, this is not so unusual to happen. From what I learned, they dated for years before they were married, and some couples who dated many years, when they go to live together, may not work. And we don't know what really happened. I don't like to judge people. I liked Meghan. At least she's an independent woman who earn her own money.

How she lives her life is her right. She has no obligation to trash her public profile/career tool to make a neurotic prince happy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 24, 2016, 01:58:43 am
Because Meghan isn't posting anything that can be 'used' by the tabs on her IG, (breakfast frittata is not a hint about Harry, innocuous peonies and her cooked Thanksgiving turkey), the magazines and newspapers have been forced to really scrape the barrel. The articles/essay being printed are old, in some cases very old, and the press concerned is being deceptive about it.

The well also seems to be drying up ref her family. The half-siblings aren't going to say anything horrendous now, which is what the tabs were really after. Her parents haven't spoken.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 24, 2016, 02:00:32 am
I think Harry already saw her behavior, if he's with her and took over the relationship, it's because those possible faults of her should not matter to him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rebecca on November 24, 2016, 02:50:09 am
The amount of *despise* this woman is getting and the some of the labels that are being placed upon her does not sit well with me. I really enjoy visiting this forum and I appreciate the different opinions but I feel like a lot of what is said about Meghan (here and other places) is unwarranted. Rather than keep this bottled up, here are my thoughts and observations. This is not directed at any one poster on this board but is an observation of responses to this situation on all platforms:

1.) MM is all about the paparazzi attention
: Since the news broke, this woman has been papped a total of 3 times. One was outside of her house, another was in London, and the last was on the set of her show. I'm American and have watched Suits. Dressed the way she was in London, I could have been standing right next to her and not recognized her. Some have argued that she must have called the paps and that she was soaking up the attention just because she was smiling. If she hadn't been smiling, folks would say that she and Harry are on the outs or that she was trying to play the "poor me, the press wont leave me alone" card. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. Last I checked, Cressy was "randomly" papped walking down the street, shopping, etc, etc practically twice a week in the month after her relationship with Harry was outed. Same can be said for Pippa in the month after the press started pushing the narrative of her and Harry. Again, she's been photographed THREE WHOLE TIMES.

2.) She's an attention seeker/outed the relationship via social media: The pics used to make this argument are the banana picture and the tea picture. There is zero about this picture that would indicate Harry was who she was talking about in either of these posts. Having been in love myself, I'm not going to fault her for her posts. If it weren't for the original story that speculated she was the one, folks wouldn't have felt the need to dig up a picture that was published BEFORE the news broke. Speaking of which, all of the original articles were non-American publications, right? No C-list American actress who's truly trying to get a come up is going to leak something like this to a publication outside of the US. I'm more inclined to believe it was someone connected with Harry who wanted to force him into position to break things off. The American press has more of a vested interest in blowing the story (and her star power) up and would have been a much better pay off for her. Besides that, if it was just about getting some shine, why wait this long to leak it when its been going on for months?

3.) She's the one leaking the stories: Since the beginning, the only state-side "sources" that are running their mouths are on one side of her family. Meghan most likely hasn't talked to these people in years. If anyone should be labeled as attention seekers, it should be them. The people she seems to be the closest to and are actually a part of her life (including the ex boyfriend and her mom) have kept their mouths shut.  

4.) Finding fault with the statement Harry released: This being used as an excuse to blame Harry for MM & his current treatment by the press and in comments is BS. If what was being said wasn't being said, there would have been no reason to release the statement. IMO, folks are angry that he called out the coded language in some of those articles that helped to exacerbate the already sexist and racist comments under articles and on social media.   Many people would rather remain in denial, which is why weeks after the fact some can't seem to move past it.

I really don't  :June: a vested interest in who Harry ends up with. Do I think this will last? Who knows but I'm leaning toward no. It will run it's course, Meghan will get a little bit of a boost, and the world will continue to turn. I just feel like this girl has two strikes against her (American, woman of color) and, no matter how much folks try to say it doesn't affect their perception, things that would be would be reasoned away for others are used against MM.


I also don't really about who Harry dates/marries. I have a different perspective though, on the affect race may or may not have on public opinion regarding Meghan. I actually wonder if she would have been getting more criticism she was white?  I wonder if Kate had acted in exactly the same way if she wouldn't have gotten more negativity about her/her family's behavior?  I think that some people will be more guarded about expressing their dislike of this relationship simply because they don't want to be called racist.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 02:58:16 am
I felt the same way about Cressida when she started acting up. Couldn't give less of a fig about what race, nationality, or colour of skin Meghan is, her behaviour and continued lies are what make me dislike her. She could be the whitest girl on this planet but if she behaved in this way I'd still regard and critique her all the same. Race and nationality don't determine who a person is, how they act and what they do does.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 24, 2016, 03:05:17 am
^Hear, hear!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 24, 2016, 03:16:32 am
well this is interesting - the You Tube video of Harry's reaction to the PM's remarks about Meaghan, new princess and honeymoon's has been  classified as "private" and you can no longer view it


 Lot's of embarrassing footage of the royals on you tube - why make this private?  It was in the DM too seen already by many  - sort of like closing the barn door after the horses have escaped.

This seems strange to me - perhaps to avoid any criticism of the PM? 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rebecca on November 24, 2016, 03:17:09 am
^^^I agree completely with you and I know that her race has nothing to do with my feelings about her. But, I also know that there are those who would say that it is an unconscious bias. I do not believe in this myself, but I am just saying that there are people who do.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 24, 2016, 03:37:45 am
Mandosiel,  :thumbsup:
There's an article in the tour thread that stated that Harry wasn't embarrassed. We clearly saw that he was, but as stated, the PM was getting heavily criticized.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 24, 2016, 03:40:24 am
seems a bit heavy handed to stop people from viewing  a video -


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 24, 2016, 03:45:36 am
^^^ I would say that the video was pulled just in case, to avoid any possible embarrassment to the PM of Antigua as his remarks were heavily featured in article by the UK press pack travelling with Harry. I think it's purely a precautionary measure. Harry's being more guarded about dancing with half naked girls and beauty queens etc on this tour as (a) he's representing the Queen at several important Commonwealth commemorations and (b) any stuff that seems to show him in party prince mode wouldn't be helpful.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 24, 2016, 03:47:22 am
I don't know. Maybe they just want everything to go smoothly and the topic of his being embarrassed to die down. I don't think it would've if the video was still available.
^ :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 04:02:34 am
It gives a clear and unbiased perceptive as to his true feelings about the concept of marriage with Meghan.

What I think is happening is that this relationship started out as a casual one on his part, hence the Burberry model at the same time, Meghan seems to have thought it was more serious because of his interest in her amd persistance, but if she actually had any respect of love for her boyfriend she would've stayed with him and told Harry to move on even flattered by his attention. She must have found out about that Burberry model from someone in the bizz and that's when she started outing the relationship through not so subtle clues which led all up to this. So now Harry is stuck playing along to Meghan's insistance of a serious relationship even if in his mind and heart he is still caught up in casual dating mindset.

Only thing that's going to save him is Meghan is the way she is and she'll be hoisted by her own petard.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 24, 2016, 04:30:10 am
It seems like Harry's always the one that's pursuing/heavily texting the women. I'm not sure if he did in this case simply because of the distance. Since she seems to have been flying to London, I'd say that she was the one chasing him. Why in the world she'd think that he'd only be interested in her is beyond me since she lives far away in Canada. Her ego.   :bored:  Anyway, supposedly, they hooked up at Soho House. I think this was in September because after reports about them came out, it was stating that the "romance" is still new; a couple of months. I agree that the model was the catalist to get even with Harry and force him to acknowledge her as his girlfriend so she can spin a great romance, when all it was was a hook-up, so she can save face, and use it to get a higher profile and more opportunities.
I agree that she's going to ruin herself with her massive ego. Harry doesn't need to be saved from her becauae all her has to state is that it's difficult with the distance and their busy schedules.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 24, 2016, 05:03:00 am
Harry shouldn't be saved because he is a GROWN ADULT who should be capable of fighting something this trivial off his back easily.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 24, 2016, 05:05:59 am
another version of it is still available - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvBCI9OwnJwhttp://

strange maybe it was a copyright issue


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 06:02:48 am
All the body language websites I've looked at about what his facial expression had to say most especially his mouth actions at that moment go along the lines of him feeling insecure, uncertainty, holding back wanting to say something and general feeling of uncertainty and discomfort with the whole situation. If he were thinking about marriage to Meghan his expression at the moment would've been one leaning more towards amusement instead of looking like he wanted to avoid the subject entirely.

He is in no mental or emotional mindset to marry anyone yet, much less Meghan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: kolkomilko on November 24, 2016, 07:19:26 am
Says a lot about her family then...

^ I think the whole family like publicity.
Anyway silence was always important for RF (until now), so I wonder they let it now. I remember they thought highly of Waity's silence, it was to be her virtue. When any girlfriend of C. chattered with the press that meant to be the end of their romance.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 07:33:13 am
I think now they allow it just to see how far they'll take it and if it's directly coming from them or just media finding stuff out and printing it. Media back then was different than it is now. I honestly think this relationship is a leason in life to stay away from the celeb set once and for all abd start looking for a proper wife in a different social circle. Not necessarily aristo but definitely of a more discreet nature and those who have something to gain by being outed as his love interest. If this doesn't make him lose his taste for them (and I'm sure he will) I don't know what will.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 24, 2016, 07:36:03 am
All the body language websites I've looked at about what his facial expression had to say most especially his mouth actions at that moment go along the lines of him feeling insecure, uncertainty, holding back wanting to say something and general feeling of uncertainty and discomfort with the whole situation. If he were thinking about marriage to Meghan his expression at the moment would've been one leaning more towards amusement instead of looking like he wanted to avoid the subject entirely.

He is in no mental or emotional mindset to marry anyone yet, much less Meghan.

that is interesting - thanks for posting it - I think the mouth movements also connote anxiousness?

agree - avoid models, actresses, pop stars - but that is who he hangs out with.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 07:52:18 am
Yes it does, depends on what the person is doing with theur lips, tongue and teeth. But his was all about discomfort, insecurity, anxiousness, wanting to say something but holding back.

For now, I think after he gets burned by this relationship and he has time to think about what was wrong with it he'll choose to be more careful as to who he allows around him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 24, 2016, 11:16:46 am
And in the meantime the world is subject to daily releases about an uninteresting, fake, shallow B-list actress.  Thank goodness it's Thanksgiving Day, maybe her PR firm is taking the day off!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 11:19:55 am
Yeah right....

If its any concellation Marjorie Orr says it'll be over by Feb of next year which my gut tells me feels accurate considering the rate Meghan's pushing things. So if it isn't over by now, it soon will be. I think by Feb she will have had plenty of time to dig herself a nice deep hole to bury that relationship in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 24, 2016, 11:46:48 am

                              ^
I think body language does not define exactly what the person feels and is also very relative. You can't know what goes on in someone's head or heart. He was embarrassed, bothered by the PM's comment, because it was a personal matter, but it has nothing to do with what he feels for Meghan. If Harry assumed he was in a relationship with her and defended her in public, for me Already shows the seriousness of the situation. He had never done this for any other girlfriend. And in relation to marriage, he has already said that he wants to marry and have children. Your friends are all already married, I think the fun phase is over for him. And maturity for men, it's complicated, but there is an hour that the person decides to settle down and I think that's what happens to him now.
And I think it's not so much the racial problem, what happens, is that for some people there is no good woman for Harry, they will always find a thousand flaws in his girlfriends, it happened with Chelsy, Cressida and now Meghan. Sorry, But there is no one perfect


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 12:22:30 pm
Nobody's asking for perfect, were asking for considerate, respectful and discreet. None of which Meghan has deigned to show yet as far as this relationship goes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 24, 2016, 12:34:39 pm
For me, any discomfort on Harry's part is because what even old Meghan is forgetting is that Harry's #1 allegiance on this trip is to the Queen, and, by extension, his country.  Any misstep reflects on that and add into the mix that he is, fundamentally, a military man, then that loyalty comes first, last and always.  And it always will.  That is his main focus on this trip as an ambassador for the Queen.  So, any avoidance of anything controversial has zero to do with Meghan and everything to do with duty.  

So, if I use logic, any diversion from his task and mission would infuriate him because it would reflect badly on the tour's purpose and all of the wide and varied groups and issues that he will be required to represent and report about upon his return to London.  This is his future and he knows it, the Palace knows it, and the Queen realllllly knows it.  Meghan or no Meghan, his life is planned with military precision and that's where his focus and comfort zone lies.

As I meander down the path of logic, one thing that is glaringly obvious to me is that IF and I mean that in huge bold caps, IF there is any seriousness to this fledgling relationship with Meghan, there is going to be a power struggle ahead that I don't think she's taking into consideration.  I see no evidence that her allegiance is towards being a supporter of the heavy weight of Harry's situation.  I see somebody who is signing off on published, re-tread articles about herself and her ambitions and accomplishments and dreams which is fine if you are not in a serious mindset with a member of the royal family.  If you are, then it is imperative that somebody beats it into her head that she takes a backseat and always will, to the Queen.

Now is not the time, during this visit, to promote yourself in any way at all.  She, of course, has no control over what the media will speculate but she does need to exercise some restraint over how she, and her family, is perceived.  Discretion would be a wiser move but celebrity culture does not come with any braking system on self-promotion and, I'm sorry, but Harry needs to reflect on that reality as well.

Also, having said all of this, Harry is a human being and a knee-jerk bodily reaction is uncontrollable.  Even for a military man.  If I had seen even a slight smile or indication of good-natured agreement after the Gov's remarks, then I'd say, yes, this relationship is on solid footing.  Based on evidence, I do not see that at all.  I see a man who is on duty and visibly aware that there are land mines out there.  He's a tad naive and runs with his heart most of the time but he's not as stupid as his brother.  I really don't think that.  He's the same man who aptly nicknamed Kate "limpet" after all.

And, because I'm frustrated and sick of reading, in her self-written/serving articles about the unfairness and limitations of biracial people in the US, I direct her attention to who's sitting in the Oval Office in Washington, D.C.

Request from the troops of awesome RGF researchers:  I'm busy cooking and so on w/Thanksgiving (Happy Thanksgiving, btw, to all US peeps out there!) but I ran across an article where Meghan is, as many predicted here, pushing the philanthropist narrative and has plans to be in India, I believe, to start up some girls' school in January 2017. I've simply run out of time/space to do the proper analysis of that.  I have my reservations as to what the calculations are on this, however good the intentions, because it comes of as a little too contrived and convenient for my radar.  My quick take is somebody morphing Diana/Kate; looks like Kate, acts like Diana.  Thanks for any info shared here on that front.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 24, 2016, 12:42:04 pm

                                 ^
But why is she being disrespectful or indiscreet? Since Harry confirmed the relationship she did not open her mouth. The interviews were done well before she was with him. The instagran posts: turkey, flowers, banana ... for me they don't want to say anything. People see evil, malice, where it does not exist. Has she ever mentioned his name? As I already said, she is a public person, it is natural that she continues in social networks, she has fans. If she were a doctor, or a lawyer, then it would be different, but she is an artist. And even if she were a nun, would find fault with her. The problem is not her, but it's Harry's girlfriends.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 12:54:24 pm
It's called having a publicist. I'm bloody well sure that hers is directing whatever tabs in the right direction of which article to focus on. How curious that they all of a sudden seem to be geared towards marriage and kids. Instead they of tabs reporting on whatever umpteen different articles as they find them, the ones we hear about are all ones that paint Meghan in a certain light. PR pure unadulterated PR. It's not that she isn't perfect, it's the fact that she's making herself look too perfect on paper that is off, perfection is not real, just like Meghan because most of her so called accomplishments have alreafy been researched and found to be lies or PR.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on November 24, 2016, 01:52:52 pm
Is it wrong that I am almost expecting her to make a pregnancy announcement if things don't go her way?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 02:30:48 pm
I don't think she's going to have kids with him, she's too busy building herself up to even scheme at snagging him buy pulling a pregnancy, by the time she realizes the relationship is over it'll be too late to go off her contraceptive. If she's got anything going for her I think she's too selfish right now to conceive, it's all about her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 24, 2016, 02:38:02 pm
Sorry but IMO she' s  never named Harry not to burn her relation, if she did probably Harry would break up or would be very very willing to.
Meghan is not stupid, Meghan is an actress, she knows that if she stated blithely that Harry's dating her and they are in love, Harry would probably leave her.
Yet she' s been very subtle and sly to leak clues about her relationship with him.
She posted hints about her romance with Harry right after the rumor was leaked ( by who? I bet it was her team, her clothing line was about to be launched) and sorry but IMO that two bananas and that cup of english tea were very clear.
Obvuiously she didn' t state she was dating Harry, she' s not stupid


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 24, 2016, 02:44:37 pm
Also I totally agree with the ones saying that that embarrassed and anxious face by Harry is not a face by a man who is besotted and willing to marry. At all.
I would have expected a smile  :flower: if he really is happy and at ease with this relation.

Something pretty similar to what Yooper wrote happened to me: a friend of mine was very serious with a girl and they wanted to get married. This girl kinda told everyone, he didn' t say a word instead. We were having a drink together and it all popped out  :shy:
He smiled, he was a bit embarrassed but smiling he was like " yes we wanna get married". He was no anxious or annoyed like Harry was.

The thought of marrying the person you love must bring you happiness not disconfort, if it does it means in my opinion, that she' s not the one.

IMHO Harry didn' t have surgery to his hair, the balding spot is still visible, but that doesn' t matter at all.

Sorry for double posting


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 24, 2016, 02:50:40 pm
I strongly believe that he's already dumped her. It would make sense since all of the trouble she's caused. If he wants to enjoy being a person that the queen relies on to represent her on tours/engagements in the future, he doesn't need someone like Mehgan interefering with that. I think that the irritation/embarrased reaction to the PM was because he's already finished with her. He must also be thinking that the situation might've cost the respect of the queen. Because he loves and repects his grandmother, I don't think he'll be dealing with any slap and tickle entertainer again. Now that I think about it, he might've been dressed down by the queen because the Mehgan situation got out of hand and might've jeopardized the Caribbean trip. Maybe he was thinking about how he let down the queen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 02:55:01 pm
Yup. Said more or less same thing on Carribean Tour thread I think.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on November 24, 2016, 03:29:06 pm
I'm not on board with the he dumped her train. He just looked like he did not want to hear a thing about the one thing he feared would overshadow the tour. It's unfortunate that he couldn't hide his anger and the people around him noticed it too. It wasn't anything that was a sign of the relationship ending before the tour.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 24, 2016, 04:04:10 pm
I just can't imagine he would be okay with MM's PR machine kicking into full gear, with a new story glorifying her coming out every day of his tour.  That's just wrong.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 24, 2016, 04:05:05 pm
^^ I agree. However, the dripping of info and her family doing interviews while he's trying to work is not a good sign.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 24, 2016, 04:08:42 pm
I'm not sure if you've read the thread from the beginning, but why would Harry hang onto a woman who's not discrete and brought lawyers into getting that statement issued, hang onto someone who he really can't have a future with, who loves the attention and courts the press? Harry has to realize what he does in his private life effects his public one. He has to grow up and stop messing with these entertainers.
^, ^^exactly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 24, 2016, 08:06:36 pm
Kate Middleton mocks Meghan Markle’s humanitarian works; Prince Harry gets upset with the Duchess of Cambridge?
Kate Middleton scoffs at Meghan Markle's humanitarian trips and claimed that Prince Harry's girlfriend is just doing it for PR's sake.

The Duchess of Cambridge is not really that impressed with Meghan that she is indeed doing humanitarian works because she thinks that Markle is just doing it for PR. Kate also believes that Meghan is trying to make her fans believe that she wants to transform this world into a better place, when she is just doing things for the sake of her public image as reported by Celebrity Dirty Laundry.
http://www.hngn.com/articles/218555/20161124/kate-middleton-mocks-meghan-markle-s-humanitarian-works-prince-harry.htm


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Is Meghan Markle trying to win everybody's heart just to make people believe that she's someone good enough to replace Prince Harry's mom? Kate Middleton here believes that's what she's doing.
now thats just gross  :ick:

Hmmm all this sounds like things thats been said on here and on other froums,but they just saying it's  all Kate   :looky:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 24, 2016, 11:03:00 pm
I don' t think that Harry and Meghan broke up actually.
Not yet  :cookie:
She' s still wearing Harry' s bracelet
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNIAr5fgNF-/?taken-by=meghanmarkle

Happy thanksgiving day american ladies!  :flower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 25, 2016, 03:06:56 am
Hope all the Americans here had a happy Thanksgiving Day - just sent the last of the guests off so time to relax and gossip!

The bracelet is not Harry's .  Her bracelet is a three strand - or rather 2.5 strand on a wire - that is quite obvious.  Harry's are single strands.  Hers lacks a clasp - Harry's have a pretty clasp.  So the bracelet is not a sign of anything except maybe an effort to look like she has a bracelet from him.

Look - do you think Harry has a draw full of bracelets from Nepal he pulls out for every GF?  Like after 3 dates - he gives em a bracelet?
As someone else suggested - does he give them a coffeepot after 10 dates?  Sends them out for groceries and a pap stroll after 8 dates?
The bracelet seems nonsense to me - IMHO of course.  Someone else said her bracelet was from some cancer charity.

I'm still wondering where the pics are from her claim that she went to Afghanistan to visit the troops - there should be pics of that and cannot find any - not even a mention on the USO site which schedules those trips.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 25, 2016, 03:29:34 am
found it - she was part of a Christmas Chorale with baseball players, retired NFL linebacker and obscure comedians and country singers who visited Spain Italy Turkey and the UK but not Afghanistan in 2014.

Now maybe she took an unscheduled side trip to 'Stan with this group - but it is not listed on the schedule.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 25, 2016, 03:56:04 am
Super slueth should be your new nam cate1949. Great research.  :thumbsup:  It looks like Ms Markle's a cronic liar, imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on November 25, 2016, 04:08:52 am
I wonder if she'll go to Lesotho with him, since she is so into charity work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 25, 2016, 04:14:29 am
if the relationship is still on - of course she'll go to Lesotho -


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 25, 2016, 04:17:40 am
I can't imagine anything still being on but we'll see.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 04:18:40 am
^^^I think that's considered official stuff, she's just a girlfriend and busy elsewhere, I don't think she'll go and I think he may have been warned by HM not to include her in any of his charity wotk as it will only fuel the flanes of imminent engagement and steal away from what he's doing. Doesn't make sense to take her if he's trying to keep the relationship lowkey.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 25, 2016, 04:51:15 am
9^s

Meghan was in Afghanstan as the article below shows.

https://www.army.mil/article/139731


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 25, 2016, 05:17:41 am
she is not on the USO site as being there - but as I said - this may have been added on and so does not show up on the USO site - my apologies


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 25, 2016, 05:44:33 am
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Harry is great but he needs to choose the right partner that will lift his image, not bring it down. His choice of partner is important for his future relevance. But Harry doing his grandmother's work is undeniably a great asset to the crown.
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His partner did not elevate his image whatsoever.
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No, but she can lower the respect people have for him.
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This applies to Mehgan today, but it could also apply to any future girlfriends he'll get if he doesn't stop dealing with slap and tickle women from the entertainment field. If he approached his private life like he does his public one, he'll not get involved with women that constantly need press and comes with a pr representative. He'll get involved with women that won't interfere with his public work as she'll have her own life and job that doesn't require press.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 25, 2016, 11:13:08 am
I love Pearlette's shoes!  Very snappy.  :flirt:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 25, 2016, 01:28:13 pm
For what it's worth....from a possibly dubious entertainment gossip site:

http://www.foxella.com/her-friends-are-all-selling-some-very-damaging-information-about-her-to-tabloids/



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 01:44:53 pm
Mmmmmhmmmm  :cookie: :tehe: Can't wait to see what else comes out, know it's bad when have to pay an ex hush money. :bouncy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 25, 2016, 02:59:29 pm
There is a tumblr site on which there are predictions about Harry and his future duchess. Some of them feel right, some just don't. What feels right is Harry's future wife's passion for the wellbeing of women and being religious or at least be a woman of faith. To me Meghan has many of the qualities that The One for Harry will have but she just doesn't feel right. I feel that Harry's true love will have a lot of things to hide but will not go at great lengths to not be discovered. At the end of the day - everyone has skeletons. Everyone has h8ters who will talk smack about them at the first chance. To me what really matters is what Harry thinks of Megs skeletons. And if I were him - I'd find it very troubling if my gf has to pay people to keep quiet and family members to talk her up. Those 50G that Meg spent - not a wise investment if she doesn't get the ring. If Harry catches up to her lies things will better not go to the altar, imo. And as a general rule of thumb - if anyone wants a stable relationship - they've got to be honest with each other. Meg seems like not being who she says she is and to me she is entertaining. To Harry - this whole morfing into the psychic descriptions of his "the one" should not be that entertaining. just my 2c


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 03:26:54 pm
In the end lies always get exposed one way or another, she can't hide them forever. If this is what those nightly legal battles was all about one can assume she's burned quite a few people that had a thing or three to say about the real Meghan. I just hope that things start coming out soon and we don't get any more Meghan Markle maple syrup :ick: after a little while it's just nauseating.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 25, 2016, 04:26:44 pm
9^s



Could you please educate me in your use of the ^ method you're using and have been using on your posts?  I ask because we have new members and the way it really works is that you count the number of posts above you and use that number of up arrows and above, say, four, you use the "quote" button.  This option you're using may be confusing for new posters.  TY.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 25, 2016, 06:31:48 pm
Sorry I missed the story of the 50G, what happened?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Little light on November 25, 2016, 06:47:33 pm
MM has supposedly paid her ex bf, a chef, not to divulge dates of when they broke up as it would make MM look bad as she was supposedly in a relationship with him, the chef, but chasing Harry at the same time too.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 25, 2016, 06:58:03 pm
Just 50K  to keep silent .had to pay me more then that ,and if this is true that harry knew she was in a relationship and still went after her both of them are trash 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 25, 2016, 07:22:00 pm
^IF true the BRF would pay more than that for him to sing like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.  $50k is chump change for this info.  Harry may not have known about it but if he did, yes, very bad form.  I didn't know MM and this chef were living together. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 25, 2016, 07:33:24 pm
^yep. She wasted her money though because it'll still come out.
The royal family doesn't have to pay the chef. They'll just have the security services do the investigation. It wouldn't be that difficult. She was still with the chef if Harry met her in May. She seems to lie a bit so there's a possibility that she told Harry that she was single especially since he's a prince with huge media interest.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 25, 2016, 07:43:29 pm
^^ I didn't realize they were living together either.  That makes it even harder to bury.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 25, 2016, 08:05:47 pm
^^I can totally believe that. After all KP issued a statement against the people who broke into her home, only to come out a few days later that there was no break in at all. She came up with a detergent ad story that came out to be a blunt lie... and these are just the big lies.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 25, 2016, 09:29:08 pm
 :sigh:
OMG
Who did Harry mess up with  bignono :bat:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 25, 2016, 09:38:42 pm
seems fairly obvious an attempt was made to change the narrative re: how they met to avoid the notion that she was still with the Chef when Harry pursued her - the story changing from met her in Toronto at dinner her chef BF prepared to met her at charity event at Soho House.

But the notion she has to pay a former live in BF money to keep quiet seems a bit too tacky and unbelievable.  People who would resort to that are pretty unsavory - this guy has his own business, is successful and apparently is now involved in his own restaurant franchise so why go for 50,000 in blackmail?

The story is already out there - so why pay him off?  Plus how credible is this gossip site?

That payment is only worth it if this is an affair going the distance - which I doubt.  Story seems bogus to me - the nightly legal battles seem to me to refer more to her and KP's tussles.  



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 25, 2016, 11:45:40 pm
Prince William's dismay at his brother Harry's 'hot-headed' public plea over girlfriend Meghan Markle


Prince William is deeply unhappy over his younger brother’s decision to issue an unprecedented public statement about his new girlfriend, Meghan Markle.

The future king is understood to be concerned that ‘hot-headed’ Prince Harry officially confirmed his relationship with the 35-year-old American actress by releasing an emotional tirade against the media and online commentators, sources said.

William, 34, and Harry, 32, are very close, living yards from each other at Kensington Palace and sharing both an office and a charitable foundation.

But despite his support for Harry, William is fiercely protective of his family’s privacy and believes his more open brother made a mistake in wearing his heart on his sleeve.

‘He thinks Harry made a mistake in confirming the relationship and releasing such an emotional statement so soon [into it],’ one well-placed Palace source told the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3972778/Prince-William-s-dismay-brother-Harry-s-hot-headed-public-plea-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 12:06:54 am
Why's this been rehashed now when it happened 2 weeks or so ago?
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Privately, he shares a lot of the sentiments he and Meghan expressed as, make no mistake, she was very involved in the statement too.
‘William is of the opinion that you need to keep your powder dry on these sorts of things and they, as a family, should only resort to making public statements when there is no other option left,’ said the source.

‘He just doesn’t feel this was a big enough issue to make a fuss about.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3972778/Prince-William-s-dismay-brother-Harry-s-hot-headed-public-plea-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle.html
Of course she was involved in the statement. Her lawyers drafted it, IMO.
What sort of spin will her side make of this? Is this part of an exit plan for Harry; going to hot too heavy too soon so he'll take a break from the relationship? I still say that there's no way that Harry could throw a tantrum and have his press office issue such a statement without consulting legal counsel and senior courtiers or even Charles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 12:14:40 am
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‘William knows that his brother can be hot-headed and understands that it is something he felt very strongly about. Privately, he shares a lot of the sentiments he and Meghan expressed as, make no mistake, she was very involved in the statement too.

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‘William is of the opinion that you need to keep your powder dry on these sorts of things and they, as a family, should only resort to making public statements when there is no other option left,’ said the source.

‘He just doesn’t feel this was a big enough issue to make a fuss about.’

Bless you William you just outed her and gave Harry a way out in case it doesn't work out. :worship: He also more or less said he didn't like what she did/her in not so many words.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 26, 2016, 12:43:58 am


   Did anyone believe that William was annoyed by Harry's posture? " One well-placed Palace source told the Mail."... lol lol lol... : lets me laugh :bouncy: :bouncy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 12:47:58 am
This, for me, is the most important paragraph in the whole article:

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‘He feels that the statement offered up too much information and only served to fuel speculation about how serious Harry is about Meghan. It could also put him in a difficult position in the future regardless of whether the relationship leads to something or not.


Whether William said this or not, this is, to me, a brilliant pre-emptive strike against any whiff of "expectations" from Camp Meghan. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 01:06:12 am
Indeed. I was going to include that bit and say something very similar but I forgot to before posting.

Gotta read between the lines with this article and basically understand that the family don't see this going anywhere and are not happy about what she was responsible for making Harry do and getting him hot-headed about the statement, no doubt by riling him up. I think they've had someone search out facts just like we have about her aligations and found her to be lying just like we have.

I think if there's another article from Camp Meghan that strikes at William and paints him in a bad light she might be toast. Don't go after Charles or William girl, walk away if you know what's good for you.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 01:16:51 am
The public knows the deal.
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rabbithunter, Palm Beach, United States, 42 minutes ago
Blind gossip item: the BRF does not like her but are very careful not to instruct Harry to break up with her. Poor Harry, he's truly smitten!
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Me.0, Norwich, United Kingdom, 34 minutes ago
He wasn't serious about her.But she and her lawyers twisted his arm, that's all


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I think that she must've names Harry as the cause for her breakup with her chef boyfriend. She was living with him in some sort of legal entity. Perhaps to get out of it, Harry was implicated in some way, hence KP having to go along with the statement as they get down to the bottom of what was going on. Notice now that she's not being tagged onto any articles about the tour. I'd say the experts, not KP press office, is at work trying to protect Harry as they get Mehgan out of the royals life in a way that she'll not be able to accuse them of being racist, sexist, class prejudice, etc.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 01:29:02 am
Very careful are subtle maneuvering out of dangerous waters.  :tehe: She certainly didn't get very far with her little stunt, if anything it put up a wall between her and the royals most soundly. I also think that this is William's way of trying to put a stop to those articles of how keen Kate was to meet her or approved of her. They struck me as untrue and just speculation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 01:31:16 am
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The problem is I think Harry and Meghan have shot themselves in the foot with the way they have gone about this romance. Meghan has come across as too much of an attention seeker ... which has made the public not like her from the start! Then you have Harry who has been very hot headed and by bringing out that corny over the top statement has done himself no favours! Truth is the public are not going to warm to this romance any day soon and the royal family must be a bit worried about that.
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All very true, Sophie. His statement was totally unnecessary and came across as a petulant prince trying to tell others what they can and can't do. It seems to have escaped his notice that as a member of a royal family financed by the taxpayer he's in no position to lay down the law to anyone. If he doesn't like the interest he as a member of the royal family generates, he can always give up his title and position and live as a private citizen. No one will then care tuppence who he's dating, but he might find his sex appeal somewhat diminished if no longer a HRH.
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AmusedByItAll, Somewhere, United States, 1 hour ago
It would seem William views this relationship as more fling that permanent and is worried Harry will have trouble getting out of it. Pay attention Harry, big brother may well be right about this one.
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Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 26, 2016, 01:31:52 am
 Who knows who the DM's 'highly placed Palace source is. The butler, perhaps!

Among the usual drivel the Daily Fail comes out with when it guesses at the reactions of the BRF to anything is a paragraph buried deep within this article. The 'on the record' response from William.
 
'Royal sources said yeasterday that William was made aware of the statement before Harry put it out. A Kensington Palace spokesman added the elder prince 'understood the situation concerning privacy and supports the need for Prince Harry to support those closest to him.'


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 26, 2016, 01:54:48 am
As the two have not yet been seen in public and the old interviews of Meghan have already been exhausted, it remains only the YELLOW JOURNALISM” to invent stories, worse than there are people who believe :sly:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 02:06:45 am
Yet we had no problem when Meghan used those yellow journalists to leak the story to the media.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 02:53:18 am
The careful wording of it plus the fact that it paints William in a good and sensible older brother light makes me think it's real.  I doubt Wills would pass up an opportinuty to make himself seem like the level-headed and better seeming brother. It also serves the purpose of outing Meghan as being very behind the wording of that statement as well, meaning whatever's been disproven by now is in fact on her because she "make no mistake" was behind how that statement was presented. It also explains why some of us thought it was OOC for Harry to make such a statement over something that seemed not that bad, unfortunate yes but the statement made more of it than it actually was.

Palace is starting to paint Meghan in an unfavourable light and subtlely intimating relationship might not go anymore. Hmmmmm :June:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 03:05:12 am
^yup. It's the perfect way to clean up the mess that the letter made. Also, I would wager a bet that Jason is probably taking some heat over the whole fiasco, and since he is really William's boy, this story is killing two birds in one stone so to speak by trying to protect both.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 03:21:05 am
One can only imagine Jugger's thought process at the time, my take on it is he her the racism thing and folded like wheat before a mighty wind. American's are more sensitive about the whole race issue more so than England as it's been stated since it's a lot more of a hot topic here. Honestly it was better to have said nothing at all, all he did was give in to Meghan's machinations, he works for the royals not Meghan, he should have counseled caution to Harry and thought about how the statement would be taken and come across not only to the media, but the public.

Is this some subtle form of them saying sorry guys never should've happened, Meghan put him up to it? :think:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 03:40:51 am
That argument won't fly because these people should be professional. The wording of that statement was completely asinine even if Harry wanted to make a plea to leave his gf alone. No matter how you look at it, the outburst only provided the press with enough material to ridicule Harry for days, not least because it highlighted the fact that Harry allowed himself to be played by a c-list celebrity. The way this lady has been posturing and fibbing, I wouldn't be surprised if Harry didn't even know she was divorced. Just my two cents.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 04:06:38 am
I think this will just make the entire situation a lot worse; this is just adding to the drama and I wonder why the palace (RF specifically) can't just let the situation cool down and basically make it a point to have the situation play itself out without making more trouble. If Harry hadn't released that statement Meg would be just a sideline to his main track life and it wouldn't be a big deal. Now the press is making much of her and Harry is coming across as a buffoon. As for counseling the princes, the princes don't listen to common sense, much less the courtiers who are trying to help them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 04:32:05 am
I figured we'd see something dampening all this craziness - but not this soon.  So they have been reading the comments on the tabloids sites and are doing damage control.  Still a bit surprised it came this soon. 

Several things struck me - they let Meaghan take some of the blame for the statement - so they are not protecting her.  That is interesting.

Harry is described as emotional, having feelings, hot headed so his well known tendency to act before thinking and his kind heart are being highlighted - so Harry is getting  exoneration for his role in the statement.  They protect Harry.

Will is being distanced from the statement although his agreement with the basic principle of privacy is maintained.  So they know the statement caused some harm and Will is being protected from that harm - Will is being more cool headed than his hot headed brother.

The relationships is acknowledged but played down - the remark "whether it leads to something or not" and the "too early in the relationship" stuff.  Ends engagement speculation.  Gives Harry an out.

And yes - Yooper you got it - the most important part - It could also put him in a difficult position in the future regardless of whether the relationship leads to something or not.  That is a warning that things might get difficult in the future.  Also may give an excuse for Harry still seeing her because he has to tread carefully.

I'd say Meaghan just got a lesson in RF management of events.








Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 04:50:05 am
^excellent assessment.  :thumbsup:
I think things got bad with her bringing in the lawyer, then got really bad when she was overshadowing the tour. I can't imagine the queen was amused with her being mentioned by the prime minister and casusing embarrassment and perhaps anger on the tour. Something has to be done. Mehgan should take the opportunities that she's gotten out of this and not try to milk any more. I think she'll only get more disliked if she continues on this path and that'll damage the image that she spent years cultivating.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 04:51:59 am
Wether she learns from that lesson and follows suit remains to be seen. She may push back and try to get in her own narrative again which I honestly think she might do. Not sure Meghan's ego can handle the relationship being downplayed like this and basically the rest of the family making it seem like they honestly don't see longevity in it.

For some reason I fully expect to see articles painting the Cambs in a bad light. This gets more interesting by the day. :cookie: She better not go on about the whole divorced thing and Charles being remarried, last thing she should do is drag Charles into this or worse yet the family's history with Wallace or something. God forbid, somehow I honestly see it totally happening.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 05:07:58 am
well - Harry is identified as clearly having feelings for her - although early in the game.  So more to come.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: kolkomilko on November 26, 2016, 05:09:12 am
Wasn't that statement too rash? Anyway perhaps Waity intrigues here.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 05:18:11 am
If she pursues this she'll be toast. Harry's not some celebrity that she's used to dealing with. He's part of an institution that doesn't take kindly to interference especially from an outsider. She should just call it quits. Why stay in a fight that she won't win? What would the end game be?
He might've brought into her image like a few of us her prior to seeing what she really was about. I think that this is a ploy to only protect the royal family and give Meghan a decent way out. Basically it's saying that Wills isn't pleased with her for having a hand in that statement that has made things bigger than what they are. So she's going to look really dumb with her continued pr push on the back of Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 05:31:42 am
Agreed, that's what I took from it as well. Hopefully she'll listen but I honestly feel like this is a sort of karma for her, getting outed for all her fake self-aggrandizing stuff that probably would've never seen the light of day had she chosen never to hook up with Harry. She overstepped her reach I think and she's not going to find being in this limelight as nice as she may have thought it would be. Celebrity and royal limelight are two different things, not the same at all. She's about to find that out the hard way.

Wonder what her career will be like when there is a breakup. Definitely will suffer for all her lying, surely...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 05:36:09 am
Harry could dig in his heels - he can be stubborn and he has picked girls who were clearly not the best choice re: his family - he can be the rebel.  If he digs in his heels - tries to prove he was right - this could go much further.  She sure is not going to give up if he is encouraging her.







Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: kolkomilko on November 26, 2016, 05:39:24 am
Anything can happen and we'll see it. I am curious.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 05:48:45 am
^^That might be true, but I don't think Harry can afford to thumb his nose at his family like Will did. For one thing, I think he wants their approval more than his brother because he doesn't have the same bargaining chip if you will. If Harry didn't buckle under the pressure of Cressida and her family which the press loved, I don't think Meghan's ploys  will work. I hope.

I think Harry wanted to continue to see her in private, and she got impatient and leaked the story to force him to acknowledge her. He stayed quiet until she threatened him with lawyers. How can you trust someone that can act this way when you have not even gone to second base with. Huge red flag right there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 05:56:42 am
I don't see him doing that. She plays dirty with her lies and legal threats. Her constant pr push has interned with the tour that Harry's taking on behalf of the queen. He must've heard the flack he's getting at looking like he's being duped by her as well as people being disappointed that he's with such a fame wh*re.
Umm, things have thankfully been quiet on her side. Calm before the storm or a sensible retreat?
^ :thumbsup:

Sorry about the double post, but I wonder if she played up her stay in London to her co-workers on the Suits set saying that she's met Wills and Waity? This article states that Wills is ticked off and she's partly responsible for it.  :cookie: I wouldn't think by reading it that Wills has met her. It looks like he doesn't want anything to do with her and for Harry to do the right thing and dump her before she causes more headache.


Merged double post. I've had to do this quite a few times but am going to let it go because of long-standing member status and know the member will be more careful moving forward.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 06:33:47 am
I get bad vibes that Harry is being painted as a victim of his own out of control nature. I don't get why Harry is always given a pass for his out of control thoughts and feelings and actions. This is why I'm not all on Harry's side. IF he has some kind of impulsive nature, I am certain that he's not as saintly as portrayed and no, I don't view him as some kind of lost little boy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 06:49:25 am
I know Harry is no saint and he does have issues with out of control stuff as in he does not think before he jumps but he also is charming and very genuine in his desire to do a good job.  He is also I think while still playing the rebel - loyal to his family.  He can be a real asset to the British people and his family.  he can also do a lot of harm.

We'll see how it plays out - or at least we will see how the pr plays out.

But I must admit - this stuff from Will is surprising -


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 07:28:20 am
Harry's in a hot mess and WK jump at the opportunity to protect him and look good without even working. WK's PR people are not that bad after all.
Meghan is 35. By that age she should know that cornering a man with marriage and kids' talks too soon in a relationship is never a good idea, unless the man is over 40, no kids, never married and is with a baby fever. Harry's 32 and unfortunately men that age need a few years to vet you as the one. If Meghan was really smart she should have invested her scheming into him seeing her as the one, not into promoting her baby fever.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 08:10:24 am
I agree with KF - this is just prolonging the drama and I'm not sure why Will would do that.  Wouldn't it be more characteristic for him to keep quiet in the press and hold discussions with his brother in private?  This situation gets more fascinating by the day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 08:23:11 am
It's because Meghan's PR gad him oainted into a corner where people were starting to think they were already on their way to an engagement announcement, cue the PM who embarrased Harry with his honeymoon anfmd new princess talk, when we were right it's still early days and relationship nowhere near that. By having another royal say what William did it firmly puts on the breaks on what people are thinking is going to happen. I do think William loves his brother, selfish as he is, in his own way of "nobody picks on my baby brother but me" type of way and in his own cautiously caltulated way say what he needed to and give Harry an out. I think William's estimation of the state of the relationship is more accurate towards Harry's cureent feelings, surely they've talk before any meeting occured if one ever did (didn't sound like it to me :dontknow: ) and William knows Harry's thoughts on wgere it's going, which is it may or may not last we'll see type of thing. Sge screwed up big time by outing it prematurely before she had completely won him over.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 08:37:39 am
Ah, I see.   :thankyou:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 08:39:36 am
one small question - If Harry is so in love with Meaghan - why then was he chasing a model at the same time he was allegedly so in love?

Kind of shakes the fairy tale narrative doesn't it?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 08:43:44 am
Plus going full bore after a woman who was living with someone else.  This relationship started out on two wrong feet.  Neither person is admirable, IMHO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 08:45:52 am
Yup, precisely. That was Meghan's narrative not Harry's. She's the one trying to seem like Miss Perfect ready to be princess when she's anything but. Harry knows this isn't a fairytale, period.

I also think that mural of her is going to get painted over at some point.

Sorry for double post, merge please!!! Wasn't paying attention I thought I was editing.

Depends on wether he knew or not if she was involved with anyone, he may not have, we don't know. :dontknow:

Merged double postings.  Poster request and not a habitual misuser.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 09:18:10 am
cate, obviously Harry wasn't exclusive. Meghan thought he was and was ready to shout it from the roof top how happy and lucky she feels. When the news of the local lover broke she had 'something important to do' and that was: mark her territory with the trip to DM building in Harry's cap and boots.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 09:40:43 am
agree Ariel - I asked the question because some keep trying to paint it as this great romance - but it occurs to me that great romances do not include chasing after other women whilst in the great romance.

If Harry was chasing the model - and no one has disputed this - then he obviously was not so "in love" with Meaghan.

As for the credibility of this Will story - we all know KP leaks to the DM and has for years when they want to get a point across.  I've said this before - if you doubt the credibility of the negative stories than you must also doubt the credibility of the positive stories cause they all come from un-named sources. The RF and the press work hand in hand.   And this is a significant story in that it distances Will from the statement, excuses Harry and clearly lays some  blame on Meaghan for the statement as well as signaling the relationship is still in early stages.  That is a change in the narrative - a big change - so they did not just make it up.







Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 10:07:16 am
I know Harry is no saint and he does have issues with out of control stuff as in he does not think before he jumps but he also is charming and very genuine in his desire to do a good job.  He is also I think while still playing the rebel - loyal to his family.  He can be a real asset to the British people and his family.  he can also do a lot of harm.

We'll see how it plays out - or at least we will see how the pr plays out.

But I must admit - this stuff from Will is surprising -

I think Harry at his age, being a rebel is rather pathetic. He should in fact be better than this and while he might have good intentions (something that to be is becoming questionable), the fact that Meg is getting all the blame is showing that he's not interested in taking responsibility. He and his family are blaming the girlfriend, not Harry for bringing her into his life or messing around in general.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 10:17:58 am
The picture being painted of him is certainly not one of an adult. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 10:30:34 am
He's doing it to himself. He's being portrayed by people on this forum as a vulnerable little boy, but he hasn't been a boy for a decade now and the fact that he's not taking responsibly for his actions, but blaming Meg, is in fact a disturbing display of deflecting/projecting onto Meg.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 11:22:07 am
it's actually showing exactly who he is - non-exclusive skirt chaser who blames his gf / fling or whatever for everything  . I think that after this gf he will be forced to look for a mate in the entretanment industry because they'll be the only ones who'll have something of benefit for associating themselves with him.For every other woman in the world an unfaithful bf who drags you into the mud, acts courteous only if it will paint him in a good light in front of the public is a big no-no.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 11:39:50 am
He's not blaming Meghan for everything, they're just making it known that she's partially to blame for the way that statement is written, which she is since what happen is out of character for the brf. Aside from that no one here really gets to say at what age a person gets to mature, some people take however long they need to grow out of it. Maturity is a relative thing for a lot of people, some people need to go through some rough things in life before it sinks in, sure as hell did with me and Harry and I are the same age, doesn't matter there's days I still feel more like I'm 25 not 32 and act accordingly in my own way. Nobody matures at somebody else's rate.

As for being a skirt chaser he's basically hedging his bets and fishing in many pods seeing who bites. Alas he caught a pirana this time he's going to have to see to getting rid off before she takes too big of a bite out of him, but at 32 I'm not surprised, he's getting old and wanting to settle down and doesn't want to take the time consuming task of doing it one girl at a time, that could take months. It allows him to go through more girls until he can see who he stands a chance with before commiting. Meghan certainly doesn't seem very exclusive either since she dropped her boyfriend for Harry so who's worse, him for dating around or her for dropping a perfectly good relationship at the mention of a title?

If we're going to tar and feather Harry save some for Meghan, she's playing more games than Harry is, he was just trying to land a girlfriend the only way he knows how, same as a lot of guys who are dating around, which is why I don't get why he's getting bashed for it. You're judging him by your standards instead of trying to analize why he does things the way he does.

Harry has never been a genius at relationships, it's a fact he's not got a whole lot of game as has been stated somewhere, so not surprised he fumbles his way through the dating scene like he does, a lot of guys his age and older suck at dating and go throygh it as best they can until they find the right girl at some point. Seen it happen. Not condoning his behaviour or dismising it, I simply mean I understand it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 12:47:44 pm
Piranha, yes!  Forgive me for repeating myself, but I said a while back that to me she has a predatory look in her eyes.  She has definitely been feasting on him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: camilapitanga on November 26, 2016, 01:14:39 pm
There's not an awful lot of difference between embarrassment and visibly upset, only people's perceptions. Did he just go red and look annoyed, or were those people who said he looked 'upset' so near to him that they could see tears in his eyes or something.

Anyway, as others have pointed out the PM was completely out of line. Why is Harry being blamed for this man's faux pas?

I agree..Harry will never talk openlly about such things...no wonder the letter was a chock!!!
He mentioned Chelsy once at an interview very brieflly and defending her from media and public opinions...but there was never questions about marriage or anything...things were diferent before i guess...the protocols were more respected not only by royals but by media and public too...today people think they can ask hathever they want and thats it...the royals probbally feel amused and just laugh or make this embarassed face like what??Not aswering this...until some of them tell a jorno to f%$¨off...

I remember when he was questionated about the ex and a possible marriage he laughed histerically...i dont see much diference...but i think looking serious or embarassed is better...at least is not like hes making less of the women hes seeing...and after the letter i think he reacted good..obviouslly someone would ask about it...he just didnt comented but obviouslly loooked bothered with the question..as usual people read too much between the lines and for nothing..

If anything ive learned with the ex is to never take all so seriouslly and try to read everything like a sign coz in the end these people are humans and not all is a sign of something sometimes he just smiled or stayed serious for whathever reason nothing to deal with anything were thinking...in the ned they will do what they want...and again if harry officially confirmed this one she will be around for a long time...it dont make sense he confimed her in a letter and then talks about her..i think people are just trying to find excuses to why this relationship is wrong..why its impossible theyre toguether...why the women is horrible...how she forced him to date her and write a letter...how he now is seeing who she trully is and regrering it hats why he looked embaressed when questionaed about her..just like william looked bad and uncorfortable with kate for ten years an still married her or just like harry never eeven looked at cressida and she stayed around for almost 5 years...honestlly...its a waste of time trying to find excuses and reason to why things are not as we wanted or expected them to be...only time will show whos good or bad and whos right or wrong i guess...ill wait to see...



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 01:58:59 pm
^If we didn't analyze everything, speculate to a certain degree, and dig for information, this wouldn't be a royal gossip site.  It's what we do here.   :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 02:11:35 pm
Great post, Mandosiel. Mehgan's to blame because she outed the relationship and marked her territory by going for the photo op outside of KP like a posted stated here. She's also the one who had her lawyers draft the statement.  So she's rightly to blame here. However, Harry has to really consider what he's doing and take responsibility for messing around with entertainers. He's going to have to evaluate what he wants now, marriage in the near future or partying in the cesspool of models, singer, actresses, entertainers. He can't conplain about anything if he's swilling around fame hungry broads.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 02:13:46 pm
^^so you saw the predatory look first. Good catch!
^^^ maybe it's an astrology thing but I can't be all compassionate and understanding. For me standards are suposed to be high and a man who plays the field is not worth a second look from any woman who is not looking for something causal.

All men want to start a family. All men. But not all of them are marriage material. And from what Meghan showed about Harry - he may want a family but he's not a marriage material yet.  

As for Meghan - she manipulated him into by pretending to be vulnerable and hurt and that is a disgrace to all women


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 03:17:46 pm
Thanks windsor2. :flower:

I think Meghan came into Harry's life to basically burn him badly enough to where he wont seek to go looking around in that circle of society and know to steer clear of it. He gives people the benefit of the doubt too much, it's our failing (as 1984 Virgo's specificly) and I've been burned by it more times than I wish to remember in friendship by girls that were straight up batsh*t cray-cray and it took me a while to see it till finally I had enough, and now I keep mostly to myself and tiny group of friends.

Right now Harry's going through a similar situation. Thus far Meghan is the worst fake/user/poser he's ever dated in that respect and it's finally come to a head because he didn't see it or didn't want to see it in his other relationships how they were using him, I've been there it bloody hurts, and the life lesson just snowballed. So I think after this one is over it'll force him to take a good hard look at his past relationships and what lead up to this and make him start seeking someone completely different.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 03:23:57 pm
Now this is some dulutional sh*t.  :cookie:

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry Ready to Start a Family With Fiancée Meghan Markle!
Quote
The royal family is going to get bigger!
Prince Harry has already proposed to girlfriend of six months Meghan Markle, and sources now reveal exclusively to Life & Style that the British royal is ready to start a family with the American beauty.
And Harry, 32, who thinks Meghan, 35, will make the perfect mom like his own, the late Princess Diana, has already talked specifics with the Suits actress.
"They both want two kids, hopefully a boy and a girl,” a source adds.
We can't wait!
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-119646

OMG: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are Engaged!
Quote
"They want to marry as soon as possible, even next spring," the insider added. The couple began dating in August and Harry publicly confirmed their relationship in early November.
http://www.closerweekly.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-engaged-118527/photos/meghan-markle-9-208694

No wonder the article ablout Wills being ticked off at the statement came out now.
^he does have to do some hard thinking about why he ends up with posers and users. He should also refrain from jet setting and partying and stay close to home. The biggest thing also is to not go out with anyone remotely connected to the York sisters because they don't have his best interest at heart.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: logically on November 26, 2016, 04:23:13 pm
I think MM is no different to WK as that she pretended to be sweet and devoted and not interested in the trappings. We all know that opposite is the truth.  So can't say MM is the worst - she just saw and knows that this approach gets what you want in that family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 26, 2016, 05:13:06 pm
Cheering a lot for Harry and Meghan to get engaged, the rest is blah blah blah  :laugh: :laugh:

lovely couple  kisss kisss


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 05:19:13 pm
I'll believe it when there's an official announcement otherwise it's whatever magazine bull.

Are we seriously to believe this? It would completely overshadow his tour. No way...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 05:20:39 pm
^^ I'm not so sure they're a lovely couple as I haven't seen a photo of them together.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 05:35:44 pm
I think William might've gotten wind of this coming out and so his statement was a way of negating it. First of all how the hell would Life & Style and Closer Weekly get that sort of exclusive unless 1 somebody leaked and 2 its utter rubbish and they're just hoping they're accurate, didn't they report at one piint Kate was pregnant with twins? Smells more like Meghan's PR machine making a hard sell/push. I find it funny this comes just after the William article negating the longevity of it. DM and others would check with BP before running with this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: LadyLaura on November 26, 2016, 05:39:39 pm
I come here every day in the hope that this has ended. it just keeps going on  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 05:45:54 pm
You know what else is fake?  This photo.  Something kept bugging me about it but couldn't put my finger on it and then I actually wasted time looking at it.  As a cook, and user of outdoor roasters, the lid on this one is nowhere deep enough to have closed on this turkey.  In addition, the hot pads are spotless and I see no lifting tools nor hinges to lower the turkey for proper deep frying or smoking.  All this is is a warmer or cooker/bbq for things like hamburgers, vegetables or stuff like that so it's staged.  

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNKLewEgkW9/?taken-by=meghanmarkle&hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/BNKLewEgkW9/?taken-by=meghanmarkle&hl=en)



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 05:49:16 pm
The question is not what about her is fake, but what about her is true. :bored: Very little it seems....


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 05:49:56 pm
Good grief  :angry:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: spanishlover on November 26, 2016, 05:55:50 pm
Now this is some dulutional sh*t.  :cookie:

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry Ready to Start a Family With Fiancée Meghan Markle!
Quote
The royal family is going to get bigger!
Prince Harry has already proposed to girlfriend of six months Meghan Markle, and sources now reveal exclusively to Life & Style that the British royal is ready to start a family with the American beauty.
And Harry, 32, who thinks Meghan, 35, will make the perfect mom like his own, the late Princess Diana, has already talked specifics with the Suits actress.
"They both want two kids, hopefully a boy and a girl,” a source adds.
We can't wait!
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-119646

OMG: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are Engaged!
Quote
"They want to marry as soon as possible, even next spring," the insider added. The couple began dating in August and Harry publicly confirmed their relationship in early November.
http://www.closerweekly.com/posts/prince-harry-meghan-markle-engaged-118527/photos/meghan-markle-9-208694

No wonder the article ablout Wills being ticked off at the statement came out now.
^he does have to do some hard thinking about why he ends up with posers and users. He should also refrain from jet setting and partying and stay close to home. The biggest thing also is to not go out with anyone remotely connected to the York sisters because they don't have his best interest at heart.

So if they're secretly engaged how does the paper know? So I think they take the public declaration via KP as the engagement??? How did he propose or when??? When she was there for two days after she cooked him a big feast??? lf they're engaged and talking babies.... Like hell the British royals would let them have an out of wedlock child!!!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 06:01:12 pm
Who wants to bet that ways will be found to keep Harry busy and away from Canada till January? :tehe: I'm fairly sure somebody must be fairly spastic about this one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 06:04:28 pm
^^clearly she's not the cook she says she is.

so, Will says that things are not serious right before Megs says that they are together for 6 months (that means they met in May/June) and that he proposed.

... is Meghan that naive to go against the establishment or are they over or close to be done for good?

^ yep, and as much as Harry wants to keep his private life under the radar, our lovely Megs makes sure to entertain us daily ...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 06:12:19 pm
She and her camp obviously have zero clues who they are dealing with. If it is found out it came from her camp as a push against what William said Charles and BP are going to nuke them. :nervous: The very fact this comes out during his tour out of nowhere tells me it's not true. Harry would never propose to someone he had only been with for 6 months just like that and two certainly would make sure that no such news came out during a tour he was undertaking for HM. They are using the same tactics of the whole Cressida Dubai engagement by christmas rumour and taking it several steps too far too quickly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 06:18:02 pm
^Those are nonsense articles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 06:20:55 pm
I know they are, but some people actually believe them though. On her IG account they are already calling her Princess. Now this right after William's statement, timing is highly suspect, keep trying to paint him into a corner and eventually he'll go through the wall just to get away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 06:52:37 pm
Unfortunately,Harry will always be a target for pr wh*res like Meghan to the aristocratic set who'd want to force marriage with him like Cressida tried to do.
I doubt they've been seeing each other for 6 months otherwise numerous articles wouldn't have said "a few months" in quotes. She would've also met Wills by now but we know she hasn't because of Wills anger at the statement and the whole affair altogether.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 07:01:53 pm
All the lies and half truths are making me dizzy.   :oooh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 07:06:19 pm
^^^That's true.  There are some, let's say younger, people who buy into this right now so it's annoying to we veterans of this thing but other people lap it up.

^You got that right!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 07:17:58 pm
maybe she's an inspiration to these young women - she's pretty, successful actress, with a lifestyle blog, overcame all kinds of odds, got chosen among so many other women to be prince Harry's gf, he protected her from trolls, sent her a bodyguard, traveled half the world just to be with her. so, everything on the surface is just peachy.  :queeny:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 10:06:21 pm
did she not do an interview for Life and Style in September?  Is that not where all the quotes about her wanting to be grounded by children came from? Cause she travels so much she needs kids to ground her.  Killing polar bears with her carbon footprint (sorry I just saw a report that the Arctic is 20' warmer today than it normally is so I am feeling antagonistic towards hypocritical fake poseurs and their BS).

Yeah the article is nonsense cause ya know - the Royal Family always announces big events like engagements in a tacky gossip mag like Life and Style. 

I think before blaming Harry for throwing Meg under the bus - the remarks in the DM article came from someone at KP - maybe Jason himself - and that is the RF machine doing damage control on this fiasco.  So Harry is not specifically responsible although he may have known it was going to be done.  Frankly - since the pr mania of Miss Sparkle has caused Harry to look like a complete fool in the eyes of many people (check the DM comments if you doubt that) I'd say she did the throwing under the bus first.

I doubt she fed that story to Life and Style - at some point the pr thing assumes its own momentum and minor sites like that will try to take advantage and get clicks.  She is not responsible for every article in every tacky gossip mag/site.   

I also doubt the info re: Will's opinion was leaked because of that article - it would have been about all the engagement/having kids articles but more so about the KP statement.

As for how much they have been together - it appears he met her in May - may have seen her around at Soho House during June, got her to come to a party at his friend in LA's home in July, invited her to his b day party (maybe)  and then saw her again when he went to Toronto.  Then another get together when she came to KP.  So there are 4 confirmed face to face events maybe 2 more at Soho House.  At best - 4 - 6 meets.  And then maybe hours on texting and IG comments.  No sane person - even a sex addled nitwit - falls in love on this basis or get engaged on this basis.  This whole thing makes Harry sound desperate - sex starved and like he never had a GF and is so desperate he'd fall head over for so one he barely knows. 



 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 26, 2016, 10:08:28 pm
The Duke of Cambridge approved Prince Harry's plea to trolls to leave Meghan Markle alone

The Duke of Cambridge gave Prince Harry his blessing to issue a controversial statement about alleged harassment of his girlfriend Meghan Markle, it emerged on Saturday.

The two brothers had a heart to heart conversation about whether it was right to make a public plea to internet trolls to stop their “abuse” of Miss Markle, which also officially confirmed the Prince and Miss Markle were an item.

Although the Duke is understood to have been wary of setting a precedent for confirming royal relationships, he agreed with his younger brother that the situation had gone too far and that something had to be done.


It was reported on Saturday that the Duke was unhappy with Prince Harry’s decision to go public, but Kensington Palace issued a statement at the Duke’s specific request to say that the opposite was true.

It said: “The Duke of Cambridge absolutely understands the situation concerning privacy and supports the need for Prince Harry to support those closest to him.”

The Duke, 34, never issued public statements about his love life, except on one occasion, before he began dating the Duchess of Cambridge, when his staff denied he was in a relationship with his friend Jecca Craig.

A royal source told The Telegraph: “They don't issue statements like that without talking to each other, and they talked about the Meghan Markle statement extensively in advance of it being put out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/26/duke-cambridge-approved-prince-harrys-plea-trolls-leave-meghan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


that was fast deny deny deny . all this is just going make Harry and Meghan grow closer . now people might think harry is done with her but nope


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 10:25:46 pm
Now, that's more like it. Harry and the c-list celebrity will make him and his wife look like the picture of class and normalcy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Stephanie on November 26, 2016, 10:30:06 pm
I think Harry is very serious about her and wants to marry her.
There has to be something about her that he needs.
Harry IMO will not marry a conventional wife and I can only hope for him that she's the one and not a poser.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 10:33:19 pm
he has been with her maybe 7 times - if that constitutes love - he is one desperate dude.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 26, 2016, 10:33:54 pm
^harry falls in love fast and Meghan seems she's like that too . they have never spent a long time together so they don't know each other bad habits yet Meghan have yet to see harry dark side.
I hope she knows what she's getting herself into cause the BRF is no happily ever after. she might go in strong and happy but soon enough she will be a shell of her former self. it will suck cause she will never be allowed to outshine mediocre Kate.

Now, that's more like it. Harry and the c-list celebrity will make him and his wife look like the picture of class and normalcy.



of course cause you know William did it right.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 26, 2016, 10:40:12 pm
^It doesn't matter how he did it, he's the heir.  But once spooning banana gets into the family, it's only a matter of time before miss opiniated feminist feels stifled and starts pulling a Fergie. Let the soap opera begins...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 26, 2016, 10:40:48 pm
I think he thought she was perfect.  :sigh: She is pretty, she knows how to dress and talk in public and she knows how to talk to politicians and ''simple people''
She likes fame, she knows the difference between actress Meghan and Rachel so understands the difference between Henry and Prince Harry.
She likes to cook. She likes dogs and she knows how to help the poor people of Africa..... in the summer.

I believe she loved talking to the UN, more than being a TV actress.
I think she's more interested in being 'Humanitarian Voice' than 'TV face'
More importantly  :June:  She can have it with Harry, and Harry has someone who is willing.

I think they're dating serious.
I think the photo of the banana was the idea of both. To indirectly confirm the dating.
I think he thought she was being blackmailed because of the relationship.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Little light on November 26, 2016, 10:44:27 pm
Considering 'other' issues with PW and George and Charlotte, the BRF will probably be more interested than normal in who PH marries.

Being with her, yes. Married? Well ..... After all the stunts she's pulled, I would be very wary if he was one of my relatives.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: spanishlover on November 26, 2016, 10:46:58 pm
harry dark side???????  :nervous:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 26, 2016, 10:50:04 pm
^just that rumors that he can be very moody self pity ,and takes jokes too far and doesn't  know when to stop


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Val on November 26, 2016, 10:54:04 pm
^

Heard that too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 11:01:28 pm
we forget the 'summer in Africa' when Harry was mia most of the time on 'private engagements'.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 26, 2016, 11:03:50 pm
^uh-huh i think at those times he was with Meghan. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on November 26, 2016, 11:13:34 pm
I sure hope so... he can't be so in love if he hasn't spent any real time with her.

Although I'm not sure how "in love" he is if he was seeing someone else and she was living with a boyfriend when they first started seeing each other. Of course, William and Kate started boinking when they were both dating other people (remember, Kate was "officially" dating Rupert until December 2003, a year and a half after he graduated), so I guess that's normal for a prince?  ???


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 11:19:17 pm
if he's hooked on good sex .. 'very'


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 26, 2016, 11:20:13 pm
Quote
“But over the course of one weekend things escalated to the extent that Prince Harry felt he had to act.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/26/duke-cambridge-approved-prince-harrys-plea-trolls-leave-meghan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

This spin is good for Wills taking a stand about cyber bullying, but makes zero sense overall. The palace acted because that weekend, Meghan brought in her lawyers, IMO. There's no way this is about her getting trolled. I smell a very stink factor to this situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 26, 2016, 11:21:09 pm
nah - time lines don't match - he was working with the elephants

Look - this is the same family that thought a match between Diana and Charles after only 6 months was going to be a great fairy tale or that Fergie was going to work out well.  The same family that was completely out of touch with the mood of the public when Di died.  The same family that could not recognize Diana's serious mental health problems and never knew how to support her - failed to see how fragile a person  she was or prevent the havoc she wrecked on the Monarchy.  This is the same family that hires people to mentor Harry and Will because their father was too busy with his mistress.  Imagine growing up with people who are paid to be your surrogate father.

So of course they think Meaghan is perfection.  And they are probably desperate for Harry to marry - may think it will settle him down.
Throw in the fact that they see the public and the press as the enemy - and all the disapproval will only push Harry further.  

I recall people saying on the forums that it would take someone who was not British to marry Harry because only an American would think the life was worth it.  Stardust.  So they found their stardust American.  One of the royal reporters said it would take a limpet to get Harry - so here is the limpet.  Two limpets for wives - they'll get along great in public and battle it out for attention in private.

I cannot believe I am going here - but in todays engagements pics from his tour - he appears to be wearing brown beaded bracelets instead of his usual blue.  On a different wrist too.  Am I seeing things?

Harry wants to live out his fantasy of being an African - so when the monarchy goes after Charles - he and Meaghan can go to Africa and save the elephants and  she can be a humanitarian.  He'll be happy.  



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 26, 2016, 11:32:40 pm
^No, you're not imagining things.  Some other site reported that the blue bracelet (how high school) never made an appearance during this visit of Harry's.  As for the summer, filming for Suits was going on from April - mid November in Toronto, NYC and LA so I dunno about that.  And the summer time is heavy filming season especially July - Sept.

Whatever is going on, it's dizzying and the drama is just so exhausting.  Do we have the actual KP announcement from PW?  And why on earth, other than pressure from MM herself, would Harry and PW allow the DM article to elicit any attention from them anyway?  Especially PW?  Sounds like somebody threw a fit?  All I know is all that's happened since this whole stupid thing began is a lot of upset and upheaval.  And I don't like the sense of discord or defensiveness between brothers or anybody else involved with this.  I'm completely turned off by the whole show.  There hasn't been any sign of maturity or common sense since this all started.  It's been fundamentally childish.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 26, 2016, 11:51:00 pm
Meghan was on a 2-3 week vacation in Italy and Spain in September.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 11:54:27 pm
I dislike how the press/public are interested and Harry and Co. are acting like it's some major compromise of national security that people ask question about who their taxes might end up supporting. It's actually really silly, but Harry and Co. act like it's some major imposition to have to have their actions looked at, scrutinized. I am so sick of how they treat interest in them like some huge imposition.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 27, 2016, 12:14:44 am
You just can't trust the Daily Mail for stories. It ought to be called 'The Daily Fairy Tales'. It has magnificent photos, the best of all British newspapers, but that's it. Its reporters weave fantasies all the time and that last one about Willie and the statement was just the last in a long line..

Harry was wearing blue beads on one wrist for the first couple of days of the Caribbean tour. I saw them there.

Double posting merged.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 27, 2016, 12:41:44 am
oh boy Yooper do I agree - I want to continue to think well of Harry but this is making it hard.

 When you look at it - they really do not manage their lives well nor their PR.  They lurch from one disaster to another.  They clearly do not read the mood of the public well at all.  The Queen has operated on a detached principal  "this too shall pass" which may have worked for her in the past but is not well adapted to the internet age nor to the spirit of unrest that exists nowadays.

Just look at Charles - given the work he does he should be well loved and people should welcome him as King.  But in truth - people do not especially like him - many despise his Camilla - and a majority of the UK people think he should not be King and Will should succeed the Queen.  That is a major screw up.  And all the pr in the world has not sold people on Camilla.

Then Andrew with his repeated scandals that nothing is ever done about.

And then there is Will and Kate - Will who is known as "the reluctant" which is hardly good for the future of the monarchy. Kate who exposed her nether regions repeatedly until after several incidents published world wide they finally put a stop to it.  It is as if they think they can ignore public opinion.  How does it benefit them if W and K are seen as lazy?  Yet nothing is done about it.

And then unemployed Harry - who every time an article appears in the press about him there are "get a job" comments yet no one gave Harry the ultimatum.  Mememee told us her sources said the family was concerned about Harry.  But nothing was done so he spent his time jet setting and hanging out with c list celebs until we now have this furor.  Predictable mess frankly.  Yet I'd bet they care not a whit about how unpopular Harry is now - if the comments on the tab sites are an indication.  They think they can ride it out til the next disaster.

This whole Meaghan mess has been thoroughly mishandled - guaranteed to make her and Harry look bad.  They are utterly incompetent.  Like they just do not care anymore.  No one is in charge.  

I suspect that Charles will be King - but he is likely to be the last.  And it seems sometimes to me that they are just fine with that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 01:18:11 am
That's very true.
 think the fault lies with them hiring people who give them what they want to hear as opposed to telling them the truth. Harry does work but he seems lost a wayward during his private time. It's baffling that he's saying that he has a huge responsibilty but then messes himself up by being iresponsible in his private time. It's odd that he can't seem to reconcile his diffrerent roles. The best thing now is for his staff to keep him very busy and deal with Mehgan to get her out of his hair and by in large, the royal family's hair. I'm at the point now that I'd rather him be fixed up with someone suitable that'll be ok with the people and stabilize the monarchy and give him the children that he says he wants. Doesn't it seem like the royal's seem cagy and on edge, off kilter since Mehgan came onto the scene?
This whole thing still seems like a one night stand gone wrong and maybe the model that he allegidly went out with a few times upset her enough to get Harry to say she was his girlfriend so she could look good to her fans and the public' so she could maintain her image.  :dontknow:  This whole thing's way too much drama.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 27, 2016, 01:22:22 am
He's an adult and should be more self-aware and no woman should be subjected to an arranged marriage to him because he's too worthless to be a better man and basically wants to mooch around when he isn't partying or showing up to an engagement looking slovenly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 01:24:28 am
This is just such a tacky mess.  It's like they're all in eighth grade.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 02:06:47 am
The monarchy is definitely dunzo after Charles, the younger generation suffers from "I want to be normal poor me" syndrome, and you can't have that in an institution that declares itself to be above it all. It's clear that Charles and Diana raised two spoiled kids who have no clue who they are and what is expected of them. That is evident in William, and Harry, who showed a lot of promise, is now headed down the same path.

They are dysfunctional and fall into the same trap as any privileged and over indulged kids which is not conducive to duty and service to the people. One is married to a useless step ford wife and the other is entangled with a faux humanitarian. At this point I don't even fault Meghan because she's an actress and an opportunist so she's going for it. It's not her problem if the KP and therefore the BRF is surrounded by incompetent yes man who can't handle those sorts.

They haven't seen anything yet if they think trolls are their issue. Once the RF version of suits starts, they won't know what hit them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 02:19:10 am
Sorry for the double posts, but I had to share this. This tour has been over shadowed by this side show and it's really unfortunate.

I did NOT pimp the Prince! Antigua PM hits back at claims he embarrassed Harry with beauty queen photo shoot
Gaston Browne quipped about Meghan Markle in front of 300 guests
He then introduced Harry to scantily-clad women and beauty queens
Mr Browne described Miss Markle as 'a class act' and 'extremely gorgeous'
He said it didn't make the Prince 'upset' or 'create any problems'
By CHARLOTTE WACE FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 19:14 EST, 26 November 2016 | UPDATED: 20:43 EST, 26 November 2016


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3974886/Antigua-PM-hits-claims-embarrassed-Harry-beauty-queen-photo-shoot.html#ixzz4RAi44kuD
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Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 27, 2016, 02:47:56 am
Just because Harry didn't react to it outwardly very much does not mean that was the face of a happy camper. Of course he's going play it off as fine not to bring more attention to it that already was.

Why not just admit it was tactless of Browne to mention Meghan at all during the trip and he should have kept his moth shut about the whole subject. Better ways to promote your island as a honeymoon destination than bringing her up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 03:03:12 am
I sill don't think that the PM was tacky. As far as he knows, and going by the unpresidented statement, he thinks that Harry's in a serious relationship with her so he was just joking around. What was tacky is the press office having issued the statement that Mehgan's side drew up and not minimizing the fallout so she wouldn't be all over this tour. Now the stupidity continues.
Quote
And the Financial Times reported that relations between Kensington Palace’s PR team and the press are tense because of an increasingly aggressive line towards the print media and a favouring of social media such as Facebook.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3974886/Antigua-PM-hits-claims-embarrassed-Harry-beauty-queen-photo-shoot.html#ixzz4RAru0wrE
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Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 27, 2016, 03:47:48 am
My sentiments to the whole relationship and situation have just reached the point to where I'm just like:
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/6978bb8e208efd50af954d9401774957/tumblr_mr2zakHeHS1qzw89so1_500.gif)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 27, 2016, 04:29:32 am
The monarchy is definitely dunzo after Charles, the younger generation suffers from "I want to be normal poor me" syndrome, and you can't have that in an institution that declares itself to be above it all. It's clear that Charles and Diana raised two spoiled kids who have no clue who they are and what is expected of them. That is evident in William, and Harry, who showed a lot of promise, is now headed down the same path.

They are dysfunctional and fall into the same trap as any privileged and over indulged kids which is not conducive to duty and service to the people. One is married to a useless step ford wife and the other is entangled with a faux humanitarian. At this point I don't even fault Meghan because she's an actress and an opportunist so she's going for it. It's not her problem if the KP and therefore the BRF is surrounded by incompetent yes man who can't handle those sorts.

They haven't seen anything yet if they think trolls are their issue. Once the RF version of suits starts, they won't know what hit them.

This family is no different than the Casiraghis; worse, since they put up a front of being so much more moral. I don't think the monarchy will survive Charles and frankly good riddance. Diana made a mistake when she talked all the time about raising them to be normal; big mistake ,she and Charles should have done right by them and raised them in  a stable, drama free environment.  Stability, not normalcy should have been the order of the day. I KNOW Diana is considered a painted saint on this forum, but she did a huge disservice talking about normalcy while at the same time, taking them to Branson's island and yachts and dangling them in-between worlds. She exposed them to the connections and luxury of royal life, while making it seem as if middle class life is carefree and filled with happy days running across sun filled grass hills. It was a big mistake all around. It's not like Diana had any business filling the heads of her sons full of ideas about having it both ways.

You CANNOT raise them in a world of indulgence, fill their heads that they can switch off being who they are at random, and then expect them to turn out able to exercise the same self control that all adults exercise, while at the same time being careful about not getting carried away by being surrounded by the excess that swamps royal families. Diana partook in the excess as well and was just as self-indulgent. Harry and William didn't just inherit the traits, but also got indulged WAY too much by getting extravagant gifts and not doing regular volunteer work and basically thinking that they don't have to start early or make some kind of early effort or be prepped and ready by their mid-twenties. Harry showing up at a veteran's home looking sloppo was out of line and frankly I am sick of this 'too cool for school' attitude that WH have indulged in. If he marries Meg and sees his rep and respect people stil have for him go down the toilet, he has no one to blame but himself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 04:41:56 am
So true. The press is very ticked off still at being bypassed for social media. It's a very big mistake to rub the press the wrong way. Maybe the press is getting them back by inverting Meghan into every article about the tour. I know that the Yorks are very happy with the turn of events as it shows Charles that he can't rely on his sons solely to carry out royal duties.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 27, 2016, 04:55:38 am
I don't think the press are ENTITLED to first dibs all the time, but the new generation need to stop this reckless disregard for working with the more official press channels. I for one am sick of how they howl about privacy, but then do one stupid thing after another.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 08:33:32 am
Mandosiel, I'm with you!   :laugh:
Ignoring traditional media in favor of social media is a stupid ostrich strategy.  Yes, you can control the message, but the audience is much more fickle and volatile.  Just because you don't want to answer tough questions from reporters doesn't mean they don't exist.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: livylivy on November 27, 2016, 10:17:20 am
"Diana made a mistake when she talked all the time about raising them to be normal; big mistake ,she and Charles should have done right by them and raised them in  a stable, drama free environment.  Stability, not normalcy should have been the order of the day."
I totally agree with you Kuei.
Both William and Harry crave normality yet they have no idea about what normality is.
Normality is waking up at 6, working hard raising kids with no nannies, having no housestaff, no huge posh palaces having few days of holiday, not being able yo pay  for the extensions, botox and cosmetic surger and so on.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 27, 2016, 10:54:04 am
normality is having to worry about paying your bills each month - not being able to stay home when you are sick because you must be at work.  Living on a budget and constantly wanting things you cannot afford and never will be able to afford.  They know nothing of this. 

KF - good statement re: stability.

Re: the future of the monarchy - good statement Vesper.  I happen to believe that in these times with so much upheaval the monarchy is essential to the stability of the British people and their country.  But I wonder what Will and Harry really understand - do they care about the British people or do they - like many of the 1% nowadays - identify more with their globe trotting 1% ers?  Do they realize what happens to them as well as Britain if the monarchy crashes? 



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 27, 2016, 12:03:30 pm
As much as it pains me to say this because I'd rather talk about anything else: We're going Off Topic.  YM

I'm SO on board with you:

My sentiments to the whole relationship and situation have just reached the point to where I'm just like:

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/6978bb8e208efd50af954d9401774957/tumblr_mr2zakHeHS1qzw89so1_500.gif)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 27, 2016, 12:16:15 pm
Hello is reporting that Meghan's new film Anti Social: Special Edition is opening in London on the 5th December, and in LA in January. If she comes to London to promote it a lot of paps/photographers will be hanging around.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016111634644/prince-harry-meghan-markle-movie/


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 01:58:53 pm
Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal
On return from The Caribbean, Prince Harry will attend the @ICAPCharityDay on 7 December in support of @Sentebale for children in Lesotho.

Hopefully by then, this tack fest will be over. He'll be in Africa on December 7th for an event so hopefully he'll fly out a bit earlier, like December 5th.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 27, 2016, 02:03:55 pm
According to Marjorie Orr we're in for tacky weather till Feb 2017 at which point things should have dissolved due to disillusionment on both sides. It seems eons away, can we please have it be over before christmas? :there:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 02:14:16 pm
I find this relationship and the whole nonsense surrounding it poo poo ka ka.

I hope Marjorie is right. I'm talking about Harry again, which is great, but I want him to reconcile his public persona with his private one. I want him to escape the fate of the second born of that family and this whole reality tv that happening right now is the opposite of what I wish for him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 02:24:33 pm
^me too. In a lot of ways he's already excaped the 2nd son syndrome because of the charities he's spearheaded. I don't get why he can't reconcile the private and the public persona. He needs more structure in his private life and  one of the best ways to do that is to keep him more busy with engagements like the one in Africa. Why drag this dung relationship out until 2017? There's only upheavil, drama and stress since she came onto the scene. Wouldn't Harry have to explain to the queen why the PM of Antigua has to now defend himself about his jokes of bringing Mehgan to honeymoon on the island? Wouldn't he have to explain why she was mentioned at all and explain what he's doing with her as she's a distraction? In other words, the queen will have to be breifed on everything that happedned during the tour as it's Harry that went on her behalf. How could he dissappoint his grandmother that he says is his boss and whom he respects, by still being linked to her after the tour? So after the tour, he's going to Africa. He should stay out there until he's due to be with the royal family for the Christmas holidays.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 02:32:22 pm
Is he really going to Lesotho or is it an event in London to benefit the charity? I think it would be great if he went, but he would have just gotten back to London then turn around and get on 11 hours ride to SA. It can be done, but that seems a bit much, unless he's planning on running away.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 02:46:35 pm
^I think you're right. It looks like it's in London but he's raising money for Sentebale. Oh, well, maybe he'll be Mehgan's arm candy at her film premier on December 5th.  :P


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 03:11:22 pm
I for one would like to have this affair stretch into beginning of February because until then most of my shows are in vacation. Harry may not realize it but by going for the actresses and models so that they are 'prepared for the limelight' what he gets is a woman who will gladly morgh into a princess material (cause it's their job to maintain a public image albait fake most of the time) and will also be a put on a show kind if girl (cause being in thw papers is what gets them booked and it's their job to try and be in the media).  

Meghan is yet another woman whose job is to be in the press. So it's Harry's fault not hers for getting involved with yet another woman who will need and want to have that type of exposure. Meghan is his choice and now it's time for us to enjoy the show.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 03:24:30 pm
Oh, God no. I'd rather this sh*t show to be over. This chick's not read for the limelight since she goes balistic over internet trolls and is so scared about her safety that she needs bodyguards and when she's in London, would require 24/7 high security. What kind of bs is that? Over the years, he's dispatched women wh crave attention or seems too high maintenance. This woman's both, so he can't say anything if he's really with her and continue on their weird relationship. I don't even find this entertaining anymore.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: DuchessChandelier on November 27, 2016, 03:27:07 pm
Hello is reporting that Meghan's new film Anti Social: Special Edition is opening in London on the 5th December, and in LA in January. If she comes to London to promote it a lot of paps/photographers will be hanging around.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016111634644/prince-harry-meghan-markle-movie/

I think I read somewhere that the film is only released as a purchasable download which would mean no premieres and no tours. I've also heard it's a complete disaster of a film with nude scenes etc. Would she want to promote a cheap flick like that?

I am hoping they'll send Harry away somewhere far away soon on something top secret so they don't have to share his location. Then hopefully they'll figure out a way Harry gets a clean break from Meghan. She would have to be portrayed as the one dumping him and finding another to not make him look like a dog.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 03:44:13 pm
^ Not nude scenes, oh no, please. Anything but that.  This smells like her career is going downhill.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 03:46:34 pm
Welcome DuchessChandelier,  :hi:
That would make sense. I was wondering why the DM had an aticle about the re-release of the movie and asking what would Harry think. She plays someone's lover in the movie, so she might well be fully nude in it. I'm sure the stills and video of any sex scenes will be all over the press and the internet.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 04:30:26 pm
I don't know if you know windsor, but there are courses on how to catch a wealthy man with your femininity. And here's some of their tips: you must play the game of feeling scared from the dark, that your bf's female friends are out there to get her man, that someone wants to harm you physically or emotionally. Best is when you play it afraid for your physical safety.

Then you call up or run to your bf's manly arms, look as if you'll burst into tears but push the tears back because you are a strong, independent woman and aak himto protect you. The man will feel like is lifting mountains for protecting his lady (who of course likes to talk about feminine energy, independence, women empowerment, feels like and behaves like a lady - the queen archetype, then runs for help and protection - the little girl archetype, is insatiable in bed: the lover achetype, likes to surprise her man with hime cooked meal - the housewife archetype).

So - their teaching are: hook him up on sex (the lover), find an excuse for him to protect you (that's how many men fall in love - they feel needed) (the little girl), butter up his ego with flattety but be ice cold if he doesn't treat you like the queen/princess/goddess that you are (the queen), and then tell him that you really like to stay home with him and cook for him and see yourself changing your entire life for him and bearing his children - all as pretty, and smart, ans sexy and awrsome as him (the housewife). So, from where I come from - she's following the book of how to marry a millionnaire to a tee.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 04:41:23 pm
Oh, good god, how pathetically sad.  :thumbsdown: She's stupid though because Harry's not just some rich man. He has to answer, so to speak, to the public. Now she's exposed herself to ridicule if she did indeed do a nude sex scene in that movie.  :o  She should've just stayed with her chef boyfriend who seemed to be proud to be with her instead of chasing after Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 04:47:17 pm
I'll let you know on an hour if there's nude scenes  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2016, 05:02:21 pm
Oh so you can watch it already "Anti-social: A way of life” which is the sequel to Anti-social .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 05:31:17 pm
I thought it's a re-run from the 2015 edition. Isn't it?
There's no nude scenes by the way but there is violence and the kind of violence I wish I didn't see :Kate:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 05:37:26 pm
That's one short movie. Gosh, what a train wreck.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2016, 05:39:07 pm
^^The one that's coming out in Dec 5 it follows  on from anti social 2015   it's a sequel  

The Special Edition focuses much more on the criminal underworld threads of the story and, as such, on the everyday lives of the young, professional criminals themselves. The new version aims to appeal to an international audience."


The first one was a box office flop I guess they looking for more of a hype now Meghan is dating Harry


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 06:00:33 pm
True. I read that some of her scenes were cut out of the movie when it was first released. If that's true, then this release will contain her scenes. I don't see it getting a big boost though because she's in the news, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 06:12:32 pm
Sounds like a real gem.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Cindy on November 27, 2016, 06:13:31 pm
Today I dreamed that Harry and Meghan got married and had beautiful "ginger children" with curly hair  :hug: :hug: :loveshower:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 06:13:54 pm
Re: the future of the monarchy - good statement Vesper.  I happen to believe that in these times with so much upheaval the monarchy is essential to the stability of the British people and their country.  But I wonder what Will and Harry really understand - do they care about the British people or do they - like many of the 1% nowadays - identify more with their globe trotting 1% ers?  Do they realize what happens to them as well as Britain if the monarchy crashes? 

If they don't care then they must not be paying attention to what's happening in the world right now. The masses are revolting against the privileged class, and to tie this to Meghan and keep on topic, I wonder how attractive he would be to the like of her, if he were to lose his title. My guess is she wouldn't even give him the time of day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 06:34:41 pm
or at least she would have seriously considered before ending her relationship with a celebrity chef.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 06:41:12 pm
She would have eventually dumped the chef for a politico anyway. She's a classic gold digger.  And how do I know? What kind of person comes marching in with lawyers in toe? I rest my case.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 27, 2016, 07:07:11 pm
exactly. and she follows the gold digger's dating handbook to a tee.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 07:13:36 pm
So what happens when, at least I hope so, Harry makes it known that he's not with her anymore? What does that book advises to do? We know she's not going to dump him and will go on playing games to keep her link to him going.
They better care what the public thinks of them if they want to maintain their status quo


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 07:24:42 pm
^This is where the NDA comes into to play, and if they don't have that in place, we can look forward to her philosophizing on her lifestyle blog taking digs at him while pretending to be above it all.  I was too smart and good for him all the while gleeful in private because he has already raised her profile. It's a win win for her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 07:40:03 pm
A a nondisclosure agreement (NDA) should've been sorted at the time of releasing the statement. I can't imagine that there wasn't legal advice given at that time as she had her lawyers present. Her profile's higher but she's not getting the love that she probably thought she'd get.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 27, 2016, 07:50:29 pm
True but that only matters if she's allowed in the firm. If not, people won't care how she rose to fame because as they say in show business, any publicity is good publicity.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 08:17:51 pm
Since she was living with the chef boyfriend at the time she may have met Harry, could her boyfriend be suing her for some business that they might've had together? She's said to be a foodie and writes about food on her blog. Maybe her ideas were really the chef's. That would explain the rumor that she paid him $50,000. He could've been an investor for her blog also. So she's now using what looks like hookups and tries to spin it into a romance so she could use Harry to get a higher profile and more monetary opportunities so she could pay her ex boyfriend the money he invested in her.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 27, 2016, 09:25:48 pm
the film being released now is apparently the same film but scenes cut and added - she has two nude scenes in the original or maybe the re-release - it is confusing to follow  the info on this film.  The Director is trying to make a bit more money off of her notoriety IMHO.

Vesper yes - now is no time to come across as a party loving jet setting Prince!!

this is a comment that appeared - take it for what you will.

"I work at a PR firm in NYC, until january i worked in LA. The gossips are flying high and not pro harry.
Meanwhile, yesterday Meghan had a meeting with Trevor, her former husband.
..She is cheap. All for fame. She is truly using him. Bs that she followed the brf when she was little.
Trevor can't stand her, but, now, she can bring money for his company. This movie to be re-released is a fiasco and the press will eat her alive, two naked scenes and one almost frontal."

It seems she is still very much focused on her career.

Maybe we should give Harry credit for not being a total idiot? Partial idiot perhaps :tehe:



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Alexandrine on November 27, 2016, 09:36:53 pm
But gossip against harry why? Because he fell for her and she wants fame?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2016, 09:45:19 pm
^^ I saw that same post on a tumblr and then again on another froum IDK that tumblr where I saw that it encourages their Anons to s*ut shame Meghan anything "mean girl ish " that's why Anons flock there cause they like it.

Harry goes all in when in love ,and ends up getting burn  :there: or he knows what is going on and just don't care cause he's in loooove


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 10:48:47 pm
Man, he sounds very immature if he's that gullible at love.
I don't get the gist, Fly. Are you saying that there's some mean girl/slut shaming of Meghan because she's linked to Harry?
If the comment from the pr person's true, I'd think that she went to see her ex husband to try and stop the release of the movie if it does contain her nude scenes.
I'd think that Harry would care if he's being bashed for being linked to her because it'll affect his charitable work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: LadyLaura on November 27, 2016, 10:59:45 pm
At this point all I can say is she must be a demon in the sack.

It won't end well  :akasha:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2016, 11:16:32 pm
Man, he sounds very immature if he's that gullible at love.
I don't get the gist, Fly. Are you saying that there's some mean girl/slut shaming of Meghan because she's linked to Harry?
If the comment from the pr person's true, I'd think that she went to see her ex husband to try and stop the release of the movie if it does contain her nude scenes.
I'd think that Harry would care if he's being bashed for being linked to her because it'll affect his charitable work.



they just just outright call her s*ut for no reason at all . i get it ppl might not like her but when you get to calling people sluts *sleazy*, B*tch just because they dating Harry or any famous male. your point becomes weak I'm not pulling this out of thin air cause i browse tumbr and i see it . you can say your reason why you might not like Meghan,and i have seeing really good reasons  without ppl getting to name calling


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 27, 2016, 11:23:23 pm
Ok. People unfortunately think that that ind of behavior's cool and will get them fans I guess because of their meanness.  ???  That's what's good here, we all have our reasons of liking to not liking Mehgan for the role of a gf/future duchess and how she's basically living a life that's made via pr without resorting to visious name calling.  :cookie:  She would've been subjected to that kind of crap way before Harry though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 27, 2016, 11:31:21 pm
^  :thumbsup: exactly you can give your reasons without going that far . who they trying to gain cool points with Harry? :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 27, 2016, 11:52:22 pm
her ex hubby has nothing to do with this film that is being re-released so could not stop anything.  Plus - really - she is an actress - she does nude scenes - why try to stop it?   It would seem - if she is in contact with him - that it is about future projects


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: camilapitanga on November 28, 2016, 12:07:43 am
^If we didn't analyze everything, speculate to a certain degree, and dig for information, this wouldn't be a royal gossip site.  It's what we do here.   :tehe:

Im not telling anyone not to gossip on a gossip forum... that would be just ridiculous  :tehe:
Im just giving my opinion same as everyone else...I dont think theres any need to overreacte and dramatize about everything...it wont change anything in the end...im not telling anyone to do the same..just expressing my view on it  :thankyou:

My opinion on harry is that it doesnt matter what happens hes exactlly where he wants to be and i think people just need to try understand it and accept it!!!Relax and try to have fun while discussing instead of being so critical and negative and creating a fuss about everything and acting like we know whats best for him and like we can control his life...we cant!!!!!

I dont like him as much as i used to coz i grown up a but and changed too but also coz i dont agree with many of his actions latelly...but even thinking hes a mess going straigh into a hole i wish him the best!I dont get the need to to keep criticizing and hating on him or who says these girls he choses to date and throw them into lions coz hes not what we wanted him to be ..a prince charming on a white horse :sigh:

I think people project too much into him and whoever he dates for millions reasons but that dont mean he needs to respond back..if we stop to think he doesnt...and i dont think he wants to or will honestlly...so PERSONALLY wont keep having such faith that he will change drastically after this one and find a perfect woment to marry and become a perfect prince royal whathever...i accept harry as he is and i have fun watching him making mistakes and growing up..being human i guess...i wish him the best and hope this relationship works...coz i dont think he will find better or diferent  than her and i dont think shes that bad so to me its ok..whathever....in the end its HIS life not mine and i have no control over anything...so whathever he does im just watcjhing and gossiping having fun and i prefer to not take things so seriouslly and overanalise anything...but this is my way of seeing things only...







Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2016, 12:10:04 am
What did Will say?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 12:40:20 am
'Girls just want to have fun!' Meghan Markle enjoys cocktails with Quantico star Priyanka Chopra while Prince Harry tours the Caribbean
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3976578/Meghan-Markle-enjoys-cocktails-Quantico-star-Priyanka-Chopra-Prince-Harry-tours-Caribbean.html#comments-3976578
She's in LA.
Comments:
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Me.0, Norwich, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
S * X SCENES for money, ADULTERY, divorce, she jumps from a man to another in order to advance herself, GOING WITH HER LAWYERS after the Royal Family (to release the statement or she'll brand them as r a ** s t s), the press (threatening to sue if they reveal her past) and trying to impede people's freedom of speech, possibly bribed her ex partners as to not reveal the REAL TIMELINE of her relationship with Harry (she was living with her boyfriend in a civil partnership while she went after him), LIED IN HER SPEECH FOR THE UN (the soap commercial story never happend), MADE THE RELATIONSHIP KNOWN to the public through her PR team and social media, keeps leaking stories and posting pictures even during Harry's tour to gain publicity, FAKE CHARITY WORK (a couple of days in Rwanda taking pictures with poor kids for a FASHION MAGAZINE) and more. Good luck, Harry!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2016, 12:53:21 am
People keep hitting on her sex scence now if Meghan was Mike you think ppl would be going on and on about it they would be getting all hot under the collar and looking for more .
Priyanka Chopra is soo pretty


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 28, 2016, 01:17:13 am
I think people would be more open and sympathetic if she was a talented actress like gugu mbatha-raw for example. If she was in it for love, I think she would have had the sense to let the relationship come to light more organically and when both parties were ready. The problem people have is the dramatic way everything went down, which to me, showed that Harry's hands were forced. There is no other explanation for that horrid statement.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 28, 2016, 01:26:21 am
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I think she would have had the sense to let the relationship come to light more organically and when both parties were ready. The problem people have is the dramatic way everything went down  

^ true i understand that .and i get where people are coming from with that

I wonder who tip of Camila T if only they just waited until after the holidays i get why Camilla T break the story first cause if she didn't and someone else a rival newspaper did her bosses would have gone nuts if they knew she was sitting on that story 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 28, 2016, 01:44:02 am
I think Meghan definitely leaked the story to Camilla T, and once a reporter has a story, especially one with a great source, it would be foolish for her to sit on it. You never want to be out scooped, ever. The only time reporters sit on things is when they are waiting to confirm and verify a source, period.

It was her because once the story was out, she posted that crude spooning bananas and puzzle tea pot and therefore confirming albeit coyly. And when that didn't get her desired outcome, she threw a hissy fit, came up with a damsel in distress story, and got her lawyer involved. I'm not seeing the love in this equation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: carolmr on November 28, 2016, 01:57:10 am
Ms. Markle is a Catholic.  Will that be a problem?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 01:58:46 am
Not likely. Royals are no longer restricted from marrying Catholics and I am certain that given how this family has come down in the world, I am certain that it doesn't matter. Being Catholic is nothing to be ashamed of anyway.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 02:10:51 am
It's not love, just business.  :thumbsdown:
Given that Harry was forced to issue that dumb statement and her pr games indirectly interfering with the tour, why would Harry have anything to do with her or better yet, why would the royal family just allow him to do it?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 02:20:25 am
NO he wasn't forced; no one makes him to anything he doesn't want to. He's not helpless or a teen boy infatuated with an older woman. I am certain a lot of things would be different if he would learn to control his impulses and basically grow up. I am fed up with how he and other royals view themselves as helpless victims of circumstance and basically just drift in life and let people take full advantage of them. Harry is letting her do this and Harry is someone who apparently likes to play games with fire. He keeps doing it and getting burned and he still does it again. He's clearly someone who likes trouble and will bring trouble with him wherever he goes. He does this to himself by hooking up with women who are trouble. Anyone could see that Meg might be trouble or addictied to drama or lack self respect, but go figure, he still hooks up with her and lets her hang on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 02:36:27 am
KF, I'd agree with your whole post if she didn't bring in her lawyer. That's always going to be the issue for me. Who knows if she also has compromising pictures of him. One thing's for sure, the statement wasn't Harry nephrotic headed. She could've started a scandal calling the royal family racist because she was complaining about the U.K. being racist, so I still think that the royal family did that to stop any scandal before Harry was to embark on a tour to countries that are predominantly black, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on November 28, 2016, 02:40:29 am
I sure hope she doesn't have compromising pictures of him. He's too old for that sh**, and he really should have learned that lesson back in 2012.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 03:03:27 am
KF, I'd agree with your whole post if she didn't bring in her lawyer. That's always going to be the issue for me. Who knows if she also has compromising pictures of him. One thing's for sure, the statement wasn't Harry nephrotic headed. She could've started a scandal calling the royal family racist because she was complaining about the U.K. being racist, so I still think that the royal family did that to stop any scandal before Harry was to embark on a tour to countries that are predominantly black, IMO.

If she called them racist she could have been laughed out of Britain. Being accused of racism no longer has the kind of effect that it used to and I am certain that it would have finished her a lot sooner and decisively. As for compromising pictures, he could have had her prosecuted for blackmail. It's not like he doesn't have resources to indulge in a little pushback if he wanted.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 03:15:12 am
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JennyFitz, Toronto, Canada, about 2 hours ago
This woman is a brilliant social climber. For a C-list actress, she has an impressive list of friends and now boyfriend. In Toronto (where I live), she surrounds herself with other very social media saavy 30-something elites, including an ex-prime ministers daughter in law as well as the prime minister himself and his wife. The pouty selfies are constant. How someone who has been on one USA Network series can manage to climb the social ladder so well is unclear to me - that climbing seems to be her full-time job.
New20103
Dolce Vita, Paris, France, about 2 hours ago
She probably climbs the right men too.
New1257
whatevs, sydney, Australia, about an hour ago
Tactical narcissist, disproportionate self importance. How is she friends with princesses Beatrice and Eugenia and in the royal box at Wimbledon? Staying in Kensington palace as if it's her home...this one is an excellent social climber...
New235
Need to Know, MYOB, UAE, about 32 minutes ago
C-list actress? You've obviously not watched Suits. You probably won't even understand what goes on in the show.
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LUFFY, The North, United Kingdom, about 29 minutes ago
She seems to have a twinkle with the Canadian PM imo. It seems obvious really, from one to another......I just don't think shell move on from Harry.......lotto. you'll see her with every zeleb now that'll get hrs media attention, I find it telling she's seeking media attention when Harry's tour should be dominating the paper's
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3976578/Meghan-Markle-enjoys-cocktails-Quantico-star-Priyanka-Chopra-Prince-Harry-tours-Caribbean.html#comments-3976578

^true KF, but I think that the tour took president over anything thing else, IMO.
She's going to keep up this pr crap all throughout the tour. She's friends with the York girls so they may have told her how to get Harry's attention and how the royals press office works.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 03:59:39 am
Which will eventually be her downfall. She's getting Harry's attention all right in the sense that every day of his tour there's been something about her in the press that has continually tried to usurp attention from what he's doing and even been the source of embarrassment for him.

Also I thought she said she didn't want to be a lady who lunches and there she is enjoying cocktails with Priyanka instead of keeping a low profile. Not saying give up your social life, but have some class and realize his tour is more important that whatever pr agenda she has going on and wait till it's finished before we see you swanning around.

This is what she's like while he's working, she has to have her name in the papers too, constantly taking attention away from what he's doing. Not gonna last.

:flower: Sorry for the double post, but I found this way after my other post times out so I couldn't edit it in.

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deders, Ft. Myers, United States, about an hour ago
Croxton- tell the fan base to cool on the "not work shy" you will hurt Meghan's chances, William will not put up with this, she is the future queen, this is a Monarchy not a democracy. As a fellow American, I follow free speech but I have to tell you that this won't be allowed to go to the next level. Your girl changed religion, divorced and common law marriage to chef, parliament and the queen have the final say or Harry must abdicate his position letting his Uncle Andrew take his place. It doesn't matter what another country has allowed, the Brits won't put up with it. Nice talking to ya Croxton

They are accurate about her possibility of being a future queen (should anything happen W/K and kiddies, you never know :dontknow: ) but it's true what they said that not only did she change religions to marry her first husband, isn't she still wrapped up in technicalities of her common law marriage to her boyfriend? Isn't what she did and is doing technicly adultry? Not sure on the whole legal aspects going on here but she's ticking a lot of negative boxes.

Mostly negative comments about her on the DM article which are at 218 comments I think and lots of green arrows on those.

This is a shout out to every poster/member.  I understand that double posting happens from time to time but we're getting into a habit of it happening more than usual.  That causes extra work for the Mods so please try and keep it to only really extreme reasons.  Thank you!  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 05:06:10 am
I think Harry's been named the other man in this affair. Is their a legal procedure to get out of a common law marriage? Do the parties have to go to court to sort out the dissolution of the marriage? She seems to use men and easily disgard them when she's gotten what she wants from them. This isn't about her wanting to be with Harry. This is all about using him to get all of this press and opportunities that money can't buy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 05:15:14 am
If Harry is named the other man in a lawsuit involving a common-law marriage, this would be a groundbreaking scandal. Charles wasn't openly named the other party in the divorce of Camilla, but I am certain that this would likely trash Harry for good. One thing (bad enough) that he was part and parcel of a breakup, but a common-law marriage would set a new level of scandal for the RF.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 05:26:42 am
Exactly. What if those 50k she payed out to her ex and nightly battles was also her trying to get out of whatever legally binding stuff with ex as much as it was trying to get a lid on the media digging too deeply into her more unsavory past and lies. Pure speculation on my part but it makes sense, sounds like they reached some sort of legal agreement and she payed up because she was in the wrong.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 05:39:19 am
Oh cripes what a mess she is and what a mess Harry is hooking up with.

If find it ironic that these types of women inspire SUCH chivalry in men like Harry, for reasons I do not know. How is it that a nice girl with a modest life and career are treated like such discards while tarts like this get the Sir Galahad treatment. Chrissake it's as if suddenly they deicde to be pure and good?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 06:05:36 am
My guess is that her ex put 2+2 together as to the timing of their breakup and the possibility of why where before he must've just thought that it just hadn't worked out to his disappointment. But to find out she had basically dumped him after spending 2 years of their lives together because the possibility of being a princess suddenly arose in her future not to mention all the perks she could still get for her social profile if it didn't must've been very hurtful, I know it would've hurt me if I was him.

As far as her movie comming out, it's only worthwhile if the movies good and so is the acting, but if we've got people saying it's crap no amount of media spinning is going to launch it into peoples favour and it'll only serve to being more ridicule on her, which is what I don't understand about her why bring something like that trashy movie to peoples attention when you're trying to win their esteem...what sort of backwards thinking is that, not to mention it's got gratuitous sex scenes in it so more similated sex scenes for the public to forever remember her by as well as possible bodypart flashing. This just keeps getting more tawdry and tacky by the minute. :ick: Meghan Markle the Reuplican gift that just keeps on giving to the point she even makes Kate look like a discreet and decent woman. :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 28, 2016, 06:14:02 am
In Canada if you live together in a conjugal relationship for one year that is considered a common law marriage - but you need not get a formal divorce.  So I really do not think it likely Harry could be named in any kind of legal action - even the  "Heart Balm" law would not apply as he has done nothing to interfere with her ability to get work - it could be said she has instead benefitted from the relationship.

I would think given part of her Tig Blog success is the foodie aspect and she clearly got that from her former chef BF - that he might be the one who has reason to sue her.

I do not get the rave for Pyranka Chopra - she is 34 a beauty queen and her one film credit is the tacky bikini film Baywatch.  Beauty contests and babes, boobs and bikini films are all the exact opposite of feminism -

Mandosiel - amazing that now in the comments on the tabloids - people are admitting that Kate and Will are looking much better to them.  The whole thing is a conspiracy to make W and K more popular!  LOL

take back my remarks re: Chopra - she had quite an impressive film career in Bollywood before her TV show and the nauseating Baywatch.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 07:44:06 am
I've seen quite a bit of Quantico while I lived with roommates back earlier this year, one of them loved it. I honestly didn't go for the whole drama of it but Priyanka Chopra is a fairly good actress from what I saw, little bit too dramatic for me maybe, I preffer more realistic law & order type of acting (although I dont like L&O either). Give me Pushing Up Daisies and Dead Like Me any day.

It grates on me how she says one thing and then goes ahead and does the oppossite as with the whole lady who lunches and wanting her privacy speel. There's no reason for any picture from that moment to have become public aside from the fact Priyanka or Meghan wanted people to see who they were eating with. Fame by association.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 07:46:07 am
That is how it works in the industry where she's made her career.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 28, 2016, 09:19:02 am
exactly. what a better way to namedrop that you are friend's with a royalty's gf than to post an ig pic; and what a better way to show that you have your own life, are out having fun, you don't need him, he has to beg to be part of your life (like Kate did) than having a friend share an instagram, not you. if you do it - it's tacky, if they do it - 'it's not your fault that you smile for the camera, you can't control what others do' ...  

unfortunately with chasers of men with wealth and power if the man is blinded by her manipulations there's not much you can do except to sit on the sidelines and pray that he opens his eyes and sees through her manipulations before he faces divorce settlement in the millions, spousal support, child support (if any).

why don't Harry have a chat with Brad Pit and Elon Musk. Especially Elon whose now ex-wife remarried him so that the prenup is null and void and for just 3 short years managed to get 'out of court settlement'


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 09:46:24 am
The RF is just like that in a lot of ways. Always claiming that it's someone else's fault and nothing is ever their responsibility.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Alexandrine on November 28, 2016, 01:22:32 pm
I do not think she is catholic. Going tl catholic school means nothing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 01:25:41 pm
She switched to Jewish to marry her first husband. Which are like the two bignono for the BRF anyways so I'm sure they're delighted about that. :James:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 28, 2016, 02:09:32 pm
The way I have heard it from those who know of her in a professional capacity is that she is and has always been Jewish.  She is very active in the Jewish community in Los Angeles which is a no-brainer for anybody involved in the entertainment industry.  Her previous marriage was a non-denominational one.  If she had married someone who was Jewish it would have been much harder to get a divorce. Divorce is highly frowned upon and, by extension, exclusion or at least cold shoulders occur.  Alexandrine is right, however, that attending a Catholic school is meaningless w/regards to someone's preferred denomination.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 28, 2016, 02:19:27 pm
Wonder if she's put the brakes on her involvement in the Jewish community since taking up with Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 28, 2016, 02:37:20 pm
and kiss her h'wood career goodbye - I don't think without a huge ring on her finger she'll do that.
and if she do - it will be a shame. unless someone decides to become a mother Theresa, I don't see that big of a reason to change your holy scripts. read the others, respect them - but there must be a reason why you were born within one religion and changing your faith is not like changing your cocktail dresses. this matter is supposed to be a bit more serious than that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 03:36:32 pm
I think she's taking advantage of Harry being on tour and the murkiness of this so called romance. I just see harrry as another man she used to get what she wants. She's hot right now in term of media interest and is in today's DM associating Hersey with another opportunity. I'm pretty certain that she  gets paid for each hashtag or product she flogs on her various social media accounts. Also, when she officially gets dumped, she'll continue on the same way this time under the Harry's ex monicker. She loves her freedom too much to want to try and be in the royal family, not that that would work any. She's gotten worldwide name recognition purely off the back of Harry that she doesn't need him anymore.
Didn't Harry and his mates stop following her on IG around the time the "romance" broke?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 28, 2016, 05:49:53 pm
^ I disagree
She is ambitious, will ''settle'' for TV  :tehe:  if she can be a great humanitarian star worldwide!?
She may be the new Angelina Jolie / Diana / Grace Kelly

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Harry was on tour .... It was the same with Cressida.
interview with family/relatives - photos in the IG - many articles about her -

The point is HIM and not her, he likes that kind of woman.  :wopedo: If Harry ends with MMI, it will date another actress / singer / model


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 05:56:22 pm
http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2016/NOV.html (http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2016/NOV.html)
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288. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 11/27 **#1**
This foreign born A+ list celebrity hates the new actress girlfriend. Our A+ lister is usually super quiet about her feelings, but not this time. Basically it is as close to blast as she does. Kate Middleton/Meghan Markle

Oh boy. :tehe: :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 06:10:10 pm
It'll be his fault only if he has anything to do with her after the tour or if he takes up with another actress/model/singer, etc. They might be fit, pretty and easy (slap and tickle girls) but will only bring this kind of crap to his life. He should refrain from giving chats about responsibilities and having a woman to take it on. Meghan's run to her lawyers to try and stop the press of free speech and to tell the internet users to not write negative things about her, not troll her and Cressida went on about the press and pretended to be shy in their presence. It's not so hard to understand that you can't act an arse and attract these types of women when you're jet-setting and partying but then expect respect, some sort of deference and support when you're on royal duty or charity work. This pattern's getting beyond dumb now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 28, 2016, 09:02:18 pm
it's to be expected that Harry will go to private clubs and places. many, many people do it to avoid unwanted attention and to socialize with people on their level. so it's only natural that this is where the wealth and status chasing women who got a foot in the door will hunt for a fool with money. the question really is - why is Harry always going for the pushy, manipulative women. I can see that Meghan is already following what Kate and Cressida did but avoiding the mistakes that got them in in trouble by publishing her own story on her lifestyle website. In this way she doesn't have to submit anonymously to tumblr sites her pics andgossip nor to call the paparazzi to where she goes. She already has her social media platform and all she has to do is - update her status.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 28, 2016, 09:11:06 pm
^ That's a great point. She's also a lot older and more experienced.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 28, 2016, 09:29:14 pm
Despite what he wants us to believe, he might be as lazy as his brother and not bothered to have to work at getting a decent woman. These pushy women do all of the work for him. Now people are openly hostile to him, in the DM comments site under his tour articles.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 09:44:38 pm
Exactly my point!

Harry is not some paragon of sainthood who is going to end up working at much of anything. He's had it all handed to him and he views everything 'the best' as his due, not something to be grateful for. He talks about wanting a country estate, what is stopping him from dipping into the family coffers and basically getting one? He's not and never will be poor or do without, so like the rest of his family he has to drop the act and basically own up. He wont' however because like his family, he likes to play at being poor and likes to hang around people who will pay his way. He's always going to be that way and will always end up accepting those who are (as far as he can see) well off. He doesn't view modestly living girls of the gentry good enough, he isn't interested in a real solid young woman who has a perfectly respectable job and he doesn't want a woman with a career of her own that requires a standard of good behavior.

He isn't like that. In his mind he will always be the same cheeky adolescent who is utterly adorable and eternally good. He's' not a victim of much of anything. He has it all, but at the same time, has spent time throwing it all away with both hands. I think decent women would be tired of his childishness within a few short months and most gentyr wouldn't like their daughters being strung along and toyed with. So he limits himself to all of it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 28, 2016, 10:36:39 pm
http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2016/NOV.html (http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2016/NOV.html)
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288. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 11/27 **#1**
This foreign born A+ list celebrity hates the new actress girlfriend. Our A+ lister is usually super quiet about her feelings, but not this time. Basically it is as close to blast as she does. Kate Middleton/Meghan Markle

Oh boy. :tehe: :cookie:

Well - 1) we do not know how Kate feels - if she sees Meaghan as an attention seeker and as an unsuitable choice - yeah she is unhappy with her but we do not know she sees her that way  2) what is really bad about this blind item is that the Duchess of Cambridge and future Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is now seen as nothing more than an A list celeb - that is not good.  Although this is a US site.

sorry for the double post - please forgive!!!

Danufaul - ^^ great comment - this is the kind of woman he chases after - models pop stars etc - and these are the kinds of woman he will meet if he continues to be an unemployed party boy.  Get him a freaking job so he spends less time with the celeb  types.

Since nobody seems to be really listening to me, I'll try this again.  Double Posting has been happening with more regularity so PLEASE use some discretion moving forward.  It takes time for Moderators to do this and adds to what we have to do.  Unless it's super earth shattering, please hold off.  This is for EVERYONE.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 12:13:53 am
Now her minions have gone over to the tour articles and have filled the comments section with her crap. They must be paid by her pr firm to counter what people rightly see about her. One person basically gave reason why Harry should make better choice of girlfriend because he's not that far away from the throne and her supporters jumped in to say if Charles could marry Camilla then Harry could marry Meghan if he chooses. Now supposedly Harry's not wearing the bracelet and they jacking on about that too.  :oooh:
I don't think a job will help Harry if he just wants to swan around in the celebrity culture.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 29, 2016, 12:23:08 am
^a job would keep him away from the celebs - there was a DM story that Harry was supposed to get some sort of job with the Commonwealth and he would have been perfect for that .  But he did not take it. 

Many of the negative comments are about his lack of a job.  This steady day  after day of negative comments and impressions is getting dangerous - rehabilitating his image is getting harder with each passing day.  Maybe they figure in time it will be obvious he is not with her so the image will improve?? 

For sure they are not going to sell her to the UK people as a Duchess!







Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 12:36:40 am
But as others have said, and as much as I like harrry and have defended him because he's brilliant when he's out and about with the common man, his next girlfriend will be the same as this one and Cressida, women who are actress, model, singer, easy women. His lack of steady work and having a girlfriend that has Meghan's baggage plus issuing that ill worded statement has caused irreparable damage to his image that I don't think can be repaired. Why should it if it's a lie anyway. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 29, 2016, 12:57:11 am
i think if things don't work out we might not see harry with a next girl for a kong time /untill we get a KP annocement of an engagement .

question is meghan consider part of his set . we always  say he needs to step out of that pool and try something different


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 29, 2016, 01:32:02 am
There are over 63 million people in the UK. Even if two thousand of them are regular venters on tabs like the Daily Fail that still leaves over 62 million nine hundred and ninety nine people who never bother to comment on British tabs online sections. It's always the same whining about 'Parasites' and 'Get a Job' and 'This is news?' with the comments anyway and has been for years.  We don't know what those millions who don't comment think of Harry and MM. There haven't exactly been hostile demonstrations in the major cities and towns of the U.K. about Harry and his love life!

We don't know whether Harry and MM will marry or not. However, if they do, the crowds will still be out on thewedding day, as they are for all Royal weddings.  Harry will still be a Prince, still be a senior member of the BRF, still make news every now and again especially when children are born. He will still carry out engagements in his own inimitable style, and his popularity will find its own level after marriage, just like other members of his family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 01:44:29 am
A lot of pole tunr out because it's all about being part of the 'moment in history' and then it's over. A lot of it is a farce though. Seeing WK married at high mass in Westminster Abbey was a bit of a farce, considering that both had spent their relationship cohabiting, boozing at clubs and bars, and then jet setting while suing the press. Now suddenly Kate is gowned in white and William slaps a unfirom on and we're supposed to take them seriously. If Harry marries her, the world will have another royal bride who can be seen full frontal and see her got up in a white dress and suddenly viewed as respectable? At least after all their antics, Charles and Camilla didn't expect a huge wedding with high mass. We're supposed to take Meg seriously as the blushing bride? As a demure royal consort? As a respectable woman now that after everything, she's suddenly virtuous? You don't get marreid and erase your past. You don't just mess around and then have a high mass wedding with a straight face.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 01:59:55 am
^ :thumbsup: :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Snowpea on November 29, 2016, 04:48:24 am
A lot of pole tunr out because it's all about being part of the 'moment in history' and then it's over. A lot of it is a farce though. Seeing WK married at high mass in Westminster Abbey was a bit of a farce, considering that both had spent their relationship cohabiting, boozing at clubs and bars, and then jet setting while suing the press. Now suddenly Kate is gowned in white and William slaps a unfirom on and we're supposed to take them seriously. If Harry marries her, the world will have another royal bride who can be seen full frontal and see her got up in a white dress and suddenly viewed as respectable? At least after all their antics, Charles and Camilla didn't expect a huge wedding with high mass. We're supposed to take Meg seriously as the blushing bride? As a demure royal consort? As a respectable woman now that after everything, she's suddenly virtuous? You don't get marreid and erase your past. You don't just mess around and then have a high mass wedding with a straight face.

 :worship: Respectable women don't want anything to do with the current Eurotrash and pseudo-princes. Wasty, Meghan, Snakey in Sweden, the list goes on. Embarrassing, self-serving and at times downright gutter trash females wanting some glamour - and getting it by ensnaring not very bright royal dudes.  :akasha:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 04:53:03 am

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Charlie Mannix, london, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago
Has anyone considered that she may be with Prince William and Harry is just a cover? The story of how they actually met and when that happened is always changing? This woman is an actress with no name recognition until now ... just asking as she does not seem Harry's type but more William. It is a bit odd that Harry would be chasing after a gal that mimics the style and look of his sister in law?
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deders, Ft. Myers, United States, 4 hours ago
Wow, I heard that a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't believe it. (it wasn't on here) The blogger was saying that Harry was taking one for his brother with this girl
Charlie Mannix, london, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago
has anyone considered that she might be with Prince William and Harry is a cover? This woman is a brazen actress and this "relationship" is getting her name KNOWN which is what she is after..

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3978284/Not-missing-Harry-Meghan-Markle-gets-Christmas-spirit-prince-boyfriend-2-000-miles-away.html#ixzz4RMzAuJdV
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It would make sense since we've not seen Harry and her together and Wills looking a bit like his old self. If it's not Mehgan, he most likely has a lover and someone in the press must've gotten wind of it. This whole fiasco is to distraction, imo.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 05:04:56 am
A lot of pole tunr out because it's all about being part of the 'moment in history' and then it's over. A lot of it is a farce though. Seeing WK married at high mass in Westminster Abbey was a bit of a farce, considering that both had spent their relationship cohabiting, boozing at clubs and bars, and then jet setting while suing the press. Now suddenly Kate is gowned in white and William slaps a unfirom on and we're supposed to take them seriously. If Harry marries her, the world will have another royal bride who can be seen full frontal and see her got up in a white dress and suddenly viewed as respectable? At least after all their antics, Charles and Camilla didn't expect a huge wedding with high mass. We're supposed to take Meg seriously as the blushing bride? As a demure royal consort? As a respectable woman now that after everything, she's suddenly virtuous? You don't get marreid and erase your past. You don't just mess around and then have a high mass wedding with a straight face.
:worship: Respectable women don't want anything to do with the current Eurotrash and pseudo-princes. Wasty, Meghan, Snakey in Sweden, the list goes on. Embarrassing, self-serving and at times downright gutter trash females wanting some glamour - and getting it by ensnaring not very bright royal dudes.  :akasha:

Sofia kind of won me over since she was SO warm and friendly and that clip of her gesturing for others to join her wedding dance, that won over my cold dead royal-gossip-psychotic heart. Thing is, that a lot of weddings are just an excuse for people to get together and party. That's it. I remember a clip of a few Asian kids smirking and drinking beer and I could kind of tell that they didn't care about the royal wedding. It's just party time and doesn't bring any real money in or prestige. I can't get over how shops and restaurants were ordered closed. It would have generated a ton of revenue for those shops if they had been open. I am certain that it's' just a farce now, a kind of joke. There is no way that anyone really takes thsi seriously anymore. I cannot imagine just how  the rest of the aristocracy feels about this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 06:35:02 am
Found this in the comments section of her christmas article.
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deders, Ft. Myers, United States, about 12 hours ago
Sparkle called US weekly about her Christmas trip, the story is on hold

LUFFY, The North, United Kingdom, about 7 hours ago
What Christmas trip?

deders, Ft. Myers, United States, about 6 hours ago
Guess we will find out soon enough, I received a tip this morning

Interesting... :sly:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 06:52:50 am
Dude, please let there be an engagement. The snark, tres excellent.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 06:55:39 am
By all that's holy I hope that never happens. bignono

Also claims privacy but keeps uploading to her social media. Can't have it both ways honey. I think the privacy thing was to just keeo the press from digging too deep into her so she could keep up the glossy pretense.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 29, 2016, 07:10:19 am
so what is her Christmas trip?  And what is interesting enough about it that she would pass info on to US Weekly?  And why would she be passing info on to US Weekly?  If the news involves Harry - it should be released by KP not some second rate gossip mag - US is a second rate version of PEOPLE.

If an article about her shows up in the next issue of US - then we know this comment is true and she sure is one attention seeker and is leaking to the gossip mags . 

 



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2016, 07:15:13 am
I think she'll be in London after Christmas, go on a public date or even better - on a charity gala for Harry, maybe his Sentebale winter gala, she'll have a very inspirational speech, heart-touching story of her time in Rwanda for the photo shoot. Then she'll be back in LA and she'll dial up her friend Priyankafor private lessons on waiting her hand like a Miss Universe.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 29, 2016, 07:18:25 am
if she already leaked the story - it is for something already planned - something she knows would happen for sure

oh geez - this is nuts to bother speculating about LOL


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 08:29:10 am
Supposedly shes going to India in January for some charity thing as well. Saw that in the comments section too.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 29, 2016, 10:26:27 am
^ Arranged by her PR firm no doubt.  It's all about the brand, baby.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 10:48:46 am
Lookie what I found. Oh sh*t!!! lol

http://royalastrology.tumblr.com/post/153407370854/why-h-released-the-statement (http://royalastrology.tumblr.com/post/153407370854/why-h-released-the-statement)
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Why H released the statement?
Now this next item is a comment from a person on Love, Lola who posted what could be some enlightening information:

b commented on Prince Harry’s Rumored New Squeeze.

SCOOP. remember my friend?s thoughts about people take vacation pics and selfies and post them after they get home/ emnash tweet don?t use instagram as accurate timeline. Welllllllll. MM & Chef Cory Vittiello took a vacation to Mexico .Folks said Mm & PH couldn?t have met May 2nd or 3rd because she posted pics on days Harry was in Toronto & that they met 6/29 @ Soho (instead of dating/practicing yoga moves that week). Also In August?Suits was on Hiatus. She was a bridesmaid in wedding first week and then allegedly spent next 3 weeks in Spain & Italy With friends. He was at AIDS conference 7/21 and at 500 elephant project 7/27_8/17. per http://www.nyasatimes.com…ephants-wildlife-reserve/ https://face2faceafrica.c…dangered-elephants-africa. Nobody saw him again till 9/5???Were they together somewhere those last weeks of August?
Well the SCOOP is Chef Cory Vittiello prepared a private dinner for PH, Trudeaus, Mulroneys & other big wigs during his visit in Toronto. MM met Harry at the dinner via Cory. She gave him her phone number under the gise she was willing to help with Invictus Games. He started texting her and well?.bye bye chef Cory. All stories agree Chef &MM broke up mid May?.. That?s why they have fought to keep their back story out of papers. She was still very much in a Civil union with him. A civil union in Canada is like a common law marriage. If this is true it would explain her being so upset he was dating Sarah Ann in July too. She thought he was pursuing her exclusively. Setting up secret rendezvous etc. When she found out they weren?t exclusive she blew a gasket. Asked for time off work, visited lawyer who prompted KP letter and ISPO complaint which included letter from her legal team. Allegedly a source close said maybe might have?.CYA lol. http://thetig.com/chef-cory-vitiello/ http://www.msn.com/en-au/…t-prince-harry/ar-AAjHEz9.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on November 29, 2016, 10:51:31 am

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Charlie Mannix, london, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago
Has anyone considered that she may be with Prince William and Harry is just a cover? The story of how they actually met and when that happened is always changing? This woman is an actress with no name recognition until now ... just asking as she does not seem Harry's type but more William. It is a bit odd that Harry would be chasing after a gal that mimics the style and look of his sister in law?
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deders, Ft. Myers, United States, 4 hours ago
Wow, I heard that a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't believe it. (it wasn't on here) The blogger was saying that Harry was taking one for his brother with this girl
Charlie Mannix, london, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago
has anyone considered that she might be with Prince William and Harry is a cover? This woman is a brazen actress and this "relationship" is getting her name KNOWN which is what she is after..

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3978284/Not-missing-Harry-Meghan-Markle-gets-Christmas-spirit-prince-boyfriend-2-000-miles-away.html#ixzz4RMzAuJdV
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It would make sense since we've not seen Harry and her together and Wills looking a bit like his old self. If it's not Mehgan, he most likely has a lover and someone in the press must've gotten wind of it. This whole fiasco is to distraction, imo.

Interesting. Especially as she was in London when Harry was busy with royal duties. I've always thought that was a bit strange. You fly halfway across the world to spend two days with someone who is busy working?  :-X


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2016, 11:08:16 am
makes sense - he fits Will's miss mystery profile much more than Harry's future duchess'


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 29, 2016, 11:55:20 am
^^^Talk about a head spinner.  This information, however wonky, does fall into line with everything I've been told re the lawyers to letter from KP to leverage with her career for more dough.  She's doing everything to suppress bad information, control the narrative with hints at this/that, fears for her life/image/bodyguards to raise her stature and spin it to her advantage at every turn.  So, this makes sense to me.  The rest has been a lot of smoke and mirrors.

I'm going to go with Judge Judy on this one.  "If it doesn't make sense, it's not true." 

The one thing that has stood out as a stunt more than any other is that she claimed the photographers came onto her private property and threatened her.  I don't believe that for one second and never did.  And that's what pretty much started Camp Meghan.  Baloney.  I believe the photographers who know the law.  But, Harry, being the dolt he is, bought it hook, line and sinker.  This one's on him.  Thanks, Harry!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 12:27:28 pm
I think this still has to do with Wills somehow and this is just a distraction. Harry would believe her if she said she's broken up with boyfriend when they messed around in June. In other words, although awkward, not too bad to get out of if true. Wills having a lover and it coming out is another matter. Meghan's shift life isn't anything that people would waste time pocking around investigating. If this is really about the timeline, then all involved in going along with the statement made things much worse than it had to be. If anything, she's the culprit because she's the one he would believe regarding the status of her relationship with the chef. Now she's going to continue to cause trouble because she got KP to give into her instead of deal with her to make her stay away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 12:35:24 pm
She's playing to his hatred of the media hence he bought it because he really just wants a reason to outright *despise* the media for something and think the worst of them. Hence hook, line, and sinker....

It makes an awful lot of sense and honestly that needs to be put on blast on several forums and comment sections. I'm tired of this girl trying to hide stuff and control the narrative. I feel for sure that she must have told him she and Cory broke up. Harry has never before have I ever heard of him getting in the way of someone else's relationship and going after someone else's woman like that, why would he do that after what happened with his mom? It doesn't make sense. I've never heard of him poaching before.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 29, 2016, 12:41:18 pm
^That adds up.

^^So you think this whole show has been a cover for William who is the one actually having a relationship with MM?  I'm having trouble with all of that, tbh.   My rationale for that is that if that's true there would be an immediate smack down on any information and PW would've stayed right out of it.  Her being burned and using any relation w/Harry to her advantage is the only avenue that is clear, to me.  But, I'm open to any logical timeline, rational explanation otherwise.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 12:42:29 pm
Exactly. I find it hard to believe though that Harry throw a fit and demand that Jason go along with the statement. He should know better that it'll cause more problems then solve. In fact, there were a few articles stating that she was still with her boyfriend when she met Harry.
^i think he's messing around with someone else.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on November 29, 2016, 12:45:19 pm
I think this still has to do with Wills somehow and this is just a distraction. Harry would believe her if she said she's broken up with boyfriend when they messed around in June. In other words, although awkward, not too bad to get out of if true. Wills having a lover and it coming out is another matter. Meghan's shift life isn't anything that people would waste time pocking around investigating. If this is really about the timeline, then all involved in going along with the statement made things much worse than it had to be. If anything, she's the culprit because she's the one he would believe regarding the status of her relationship with the chef. Now she's going to continue to cause trouble because she got KP to give into her instead of deal with her to make her stay away.


That's a very good point, Windsor2. That statement by KP was so unusual on many levels. Why would Harry release a statement like this for someone he has only just met? I understand about her lawyers etc being involved but this doesn't sound like something that the RF would get involved in regardless. They're not some tin pot organisation that would be cowed by lawyers. Something is not right. Imho

Much has been made of her likeness to Kate and Pippa, Yooper. Although this did not cross my mind,  I found that odd. As if Harry really did have a crush on his SIL.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2016, 12:47:51 pm
the problem is  not her trying to control the narrative, it's how she does it: sending in the lawyers to shut up anyone who has something to say about her true colors (no pun intended). whenever it's a he said/she said type of situation - she can claim defamation of character  and shut them up, but when there is evidence like with her ex-bf: there's money exchanging hands.

she stung her own bf by lying and pushing him to issue a statement (before his father came back from abroad..). this alone should speak volumes to Harry, and if not to him - then to Charles and Camilla (she's a pro in royal entrapment games and I am sure that she can sniff a user a continent away and I'm sure she'll give Charles good advise).

and the other thing is - of course she's busy with humanitarian work, she'll for sure go to a soup kitchen on Christmas eve ... cause that's how big her heart is, and of course she'll go visit the poor children in India - delivering on humanitarian work is something that Cressida missed to do and now Meghan's fixing that faux pas in Cressida's plan for cornering Harry into a proposal through the media.

... unfortunately, both her mother and her father went through bankruptcy and she lacked that big heart of hers for her own family but she's out there to save the world from poverty ... literally anyone else but not her OWN family


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 01:03:41 pm
I know right, that's sick. Her own freaking parents and she lets them file for bankruptcy when she can help them out and make sure they dont sink their credit. She's a piece of work...


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 29, 2016, 01:52:11 pm
I don't buy and have never bought MM as a serious prospect for Harry.  But as Wills' mistress?  Sure.  At this point, my head is spinning so much from all the drama, I'll believe anything is possible.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 03:54:49 pm
Another angle could be that she was harassing him and flying to London to try and see him but was blocked by his staff and security. This would explain her saying that the U.K. was racist because she felt she wasn't treated in some special manner.  She gets mad when she finds out about Harry having dates with the model and has her lawyers contact KP threatening about Harry breaking up her and her boyfriend and crying racism and other crap. The palace goes along with her demands and looks the other way as she uses the faux romance to elevate herself onto the world stage. Meanwhile, KP has an ace up their sleeves with that Anti Sicial movie where she seems to have done nude sex scenes. Why release it again with more of her scenes if there's nothing worthwhile in it? That'll push her off her peg and ruin her fake image and credibility when she's splashed all over the press and internet stark naked.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 29, 2016, 04:13:14 pm
Meghan Markle pens powerful post about being biracial


Meghan Markle has written a powerful blog post on the difficulties she faced growing up biracial. The Suits actress, who has a Caucasian father and an African American mother, opened up about her background and the frustration of always being asked "What are you?"

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/2016112834897/meghan-markle-biracial-blog-post/

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While my mixed heritage may have created a grey area surrounding my self-identification, keeping me with a foot on both sides of the fence, I have come to embrace that," she wrote.



Yes I get that is hard when you're of mix race,and people coming up asking you what are you. What box to tick list goes on.




Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on November 29, 2016, 04:25:00 pm
Another angle could be that she was harassing him and flying to London to try and see him but was blocked by his staff and security. This would explain her saying that the U.K. was racist because she felt she wasn't treated in some special manner.  She gets mad when she finds out about Harry having dates with the model and has her lawyers contact KP threatening about Harry breaking up her and her boyfriend and crying racism and other crap. The palace goes along with her demands and looks the other way as she uses the faux romance to elevate herself onto the world stage. Meanwhile, KP has an ace up their sleeves with that Anti Sicial movie where she seems to have done nude sex scenes. Why release it again with more of her scenes if there's nothing worthwhile in it? That'll push her off her peg and ruin her fake image and credibility when she's splashed all over the press and internet stark naked.

After Harry's reaction to the honeymoon quip, I'm not convinced that they are still together so this scenario could also fit. I remember Koo Stark and the uproar over her part in the soft porn film, Emily. It will be interesting to see the reaction to these scenes 35 years on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 04:32:29 pm
That's not gonna fly with the Queen, shot down like a bird at Sandringham. Don't care how hip she is at 90, old girl still wont let certain things like that slide. I very much doubt she likes the fact that people have seen too much already of MM.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 04:35:37 pm
^^No offense, but being bi-racial has its slight negatives such as having to choose sides for instance; what box to check or sit you identify more to the black side, but it's nothing when being fully black and having people discriminate you because of it. In Meghan's case, she changed her appearance to look more white and she seems to use being being part black as a weapon to get shat she wants when she cries racism. I'm not feeling her at all with her "struggles." She plays two sides of the fence for my liking.
^ yep.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 29, 2016, 05:01:30 pm
^Yes I get that vibe from her she says she's on both sides of the fence ,but she's on more of the white side she embraces that side more ,and only when it benfits her she goes well I'm black too. I have seeing comments like that not on Royal forums or tumblr but other sites we are now following this Harry and Meg romance also say that's the vibe they get from her . Not saying she has to pick a side cause yes she can embrace both sides ,but when you lean more to one side and change your looks to fit in,and only remember your other side cause it will help you it becomes sketchy


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 05:30:06 pm
Contrived, the whole thing sounds contrived and frankly superficial. I felt no resonance with what she said, it didn't take me any deeper into understanding her struggles. It reminds me of Cressida's faux intellectual carpings on, that's what it feels like. Faux waxing phylosophical trying to seem more "in the struggle" than I actually think she ever really was probably why it comes off as shallow to me. I don't actually think she had as many struggles as she says she did or they weren't as bad as she makes them out to be. Just like her whole media trying to break into her home thing, nightly court battles, friends and family besieged by crazed paparazzi speel.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 29, 2016, 05:32:35 pm
^^Precicely. You don't ever hear Sophie Okonedo, Thandie Newton, Gugu Mbatha-Raw and Ruth Negga, to name a few, harping on about the obvious nor have they changed their appearance to appeal to one or the other. But all these women have talent, and although I'm sure they have encountered difficulties, they don't let that define them.

I'm so sick of this opportunistic Angelina Jolie wannabe.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 05:54:25 pm
^brilliant actresses too!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 06:29:14 pm
I don't think HM will disagree since it's clear she's a broken woman and she's probably spending her evenings talking to her mother's portrait and thinking hard about what she's going to say to her ancestors in regards to her failure to control her family and take a stand on something other than her bank account.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 06:38:06 pm
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ANTI-SOCIAL (2015)

TYPE Feature

APPROX. RUNNING MINUTES 116

RELEASE DATES 13/09/2015, 01/05/2015

BBFCINSIGHT very strong language, strong sex, sexual violence, violence, nudity

GENRE(S) Drama, Crime

DIRECTOR(S) Reg Traviss
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/anti-social-2015

I could see the queen doing just that KF.

Just read that she didn't list the movie under her IMDB list.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 29, 2016, 06:43:33 pm
Don't know who's brilliantly deluded mind :James: had the idea come to re-release this hot mess that should've stayed burried but this isn't going to go over very well with the royals. Actually since it's out already and probably on dvd I'm guessing somebody might've already watched it to see what they were in for and it's probably not going down well already. It's times like this I wish we had a royal insider.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 07:00:29 pm
Some one did some snooping and found out she was in this movie. The new release on December 5th is said to appeal to international audiences. Sex and violence are the 2 things that seem likely as there's no language barrier in figuring out what's going on.
Just looked at her IMBD listing and the movie credit is there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Little light on November 29, 2016, 08:08:42 pm
Maybe this part about MM being PW mistress is true.

It does fit in with what another poster saying that KM looked like her dog had just been shot. And had looked very down for the past month.

If it is, I do wonder when they met.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on November 29, 2016, 08:13:43 pm
^ Didn't Kate supposedly have a chat with Chelsea that extramarital affairs are part of the territory?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: LadyLaura on November 29, 2016, 08:15:45 pm
^^what What now?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 29, 2016, 08:21:18 pm
i cant's get on the MM and Will train.thats just too out there even for gossip.
who started that anyway?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: LadyLaura on November 29, 2016, 08:26:20 pm
It's crazy but not below them. it would explain why Hand M are never seen together and the non stop nauseating articles. I just cannot see H going along with it. But there does seem to be something off with the cambridges.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 08:28:59 pm
Well that would make the palace do odd and out of character things like issuing that statement. Might've met in London at SoHo House and booked up then. Who knows with this lot. They play sex games during their countryside escapes so that wouldn't shock me if she played with both brothers.
Fly, I found a comment in the DM that was posted upthread. I'm leaning towards my theory of a discarded lover who wants to make a name for herself off of a fling with Harry that she's spinning into a romance. Her downfall might be the new edition of the movie that contains any sex scenes with her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 29, 2016, 08:53:32 pm
not a chance I will buy a Will and MM theory - how did he meet her - if you are going to have a mistress with all the risks involved - you do not get a transatlantic mistress whose comings and goings will be noted and you surely do not get a manic attention seeker as a mistress.  Sorry but - does not fly.

This is a Harry deal - his screw up.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 29, 2016, 09:03:25 pm
yup this is all harry ^ hiss mess his woman his problem



Princess Bride! Meghan Markle & Prince Harry To Marry In America

RadarOnline.com has learned that Prince Harry is planning to break Royal protocol and marry his new actress girlfriend, Meghan Markle, in America!

“Surprisingly, he’s got the Queen on his side for this, too,” an insider said.

“Harry can get away with anything now he’s off the hook for the Crown and there’s a real sentiment among the Royal Family to affirm ties with the US — and what better way than to marry an American in the USA?”

According to Jasper Selwyn, a careers advisor at her former school, Kate originally got accepted to Edinburgh University. But the canny future royal …

As Radar reported, Prince Harry, 32, and 35-year-old Markle began seeing each other after he became “obsessed” with her  when they first met on the set of her USA drama Suits in Toronto last May.

“Meghan’s made Toronto her base, but California is still her home and she’s always dreamed of getting married in Big Sur or on Catalina Island,” the insider told Radar of Markle’s plans for the big day.

Meanwhile, the Prince is happy to sit back and fulfill her every whim.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2016/11/prince-harry-meghan-markle-plan-royal-wedding/\




Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 29, 2016, 09:07:38 pm
Good god almighty, will it never end?!   :NOwhy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 09:07:56 pm
 :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 29, 2016, 09:11:18 pm
 :laugh: :laugh: A translatantic mistress  :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, THIS is Harry's mess. Now radar online just wrote a piece that says and I quote: "Harry is ready to indulge Meghan every whim" and they will marry in America" and oh, QEII is thrilled. See this masterpiece for yourselves. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2016/11/prince-harry-meghan-markle-plan-royal-wedding/

You beat me to it Fly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 09:19:28 pm
The royal family is on its last legs anyway. Harry's getting raked over the coals over Meghan and his pr tax funded holiday/tour of the Caribbean as he navigates from on diplomatic faux pas to another. The royal family is giving each commonwealth country reason to get rid of them and not have to pay anything towards them. This Meghan farce was another issue that they didn't need as they try to present unity towards the remaining commonwealth countries that still have the queen as head of state.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Little light on November 29, 2016, 09:21:49 pm
I'm also not really on board with PW and MM being lovers.

I was reading the possible divorce thread and KM's bleak looks might be due to the fact that any divorce has already been hammered out and KM is only just hanging on herself. So that might account for it. And knowing she is only just tolerated by the members of society she desperately wishes she was a part of.

So that might explain it.

Time will tell.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 29, 2016, 09:27:38 pm
That article is pure comic relief at the expense of Harry, but when you invite z-list celeb into your life, you then become a complete joke. He asked for it and it may never end until he walks down the isle with her in Vegas.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 10:02:30 pm
 :tehe:
He might've ruined his one last chance at getting himself together and earn the people's trust again after Vegas. After leaving or being booted out of the military, he should've gotten the discipline that he liked the military for by getting a job in the defense office, I think it was that one that does the planning of military events. He does great with the big projects like the IG but has too much time where he does nothing but swan around and ends up being linked to this fame hungry woman who happens to live on another continent and he'd have to spend time and money to jet off to see. He really blew all of his potential on a dumb fling that's now escalated to her trying to pin down to a serious relationship that people think will lead to marriage. She shouldn't have been able to get as far as having that statement issued if he made 100% clear that she was just for fun, a fling, and that's that. No people are wondering what other situation will he get into. Unfortunately, he's slipping into only being seen as a jobless, balding playboy prince who really just wants to mess around with tarty z list celebrities but has to do pr stuff to keep the public up appearances.
Even if he rightly dumps Meghan, he just might get involved with another entertainer. He should get a job as soon as he gets back from the tour and sort out his private life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 29, 2016, 10:13:04 pm
radaronline is one of those online sites which has absolutely no credibility whatsoever and anything on it is just lying rubbish, as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: spanishlover on November 29, 2016, 10:29:49 pm
Well that would make the palace do odd and out of character things like issuing that statement. Might've met in London at SoHo House and booked up then. Who knows with this lot. They play sex games during their countryside escapes so that wouldn't shock me if she played with both brothers.
Fly, I found a comment in the DM that was posted upthread. I'm leaning towards my theory of a discarded lover who wants to make a name for herself off of a fling with Harry that she's spinning into a romance. Her downfall might be the new edition of the movie that contains any sex scenes with her.

??? what..............

yup this is all harry ^ hiss mess his woman his problem



Princess Bride! Meghan Markle & Prince Harry To Marry In America

RadarOnline.com has learned that Prince Harry is planning to break Royal protocol and marry his new actress girlfriend, Meghan Markle, in America!

“Surprisingly, he’s got the Queen on his side for this, too,” an insider said.

“Harry can get away with anything now he’s off the hook for the Crown and there’s a real sentiment among the Royal Family to affirm ties with the US — and what better way than to marry an American in the USA?”

According to Jasper Selwyn, a careers advisor at her former school, Kate originally got accepted to Edinburgh University. But the canny future royal …

As Radar reported, Prince Harry, 32, and 35-year-old Markle began seeing each other after he became “obsessed” with her  when they first met on the set of her USA drama Suits in Toronto last May.

“Meghan’s made Toronto her base, but California is still her home and she’s always dreamed of getting married in Big Sur or on Catalina Island,” the insider told Radar of Markle’s plans for the big day.

Meanwhile, the Prince is happy to sit back and fulfill her every whim.
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2016/11/prince-harry-meghan-markle-plan-royal-wedding/\

 :- lies..........





Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 29, 2016, 10:35:29 pm
Yes, it's totally rubbish.
My sincere hope is that Harry reevaluates his private life and ask himself why he gets into situations that ends up overshadowing his public work. It's bad when all you want to read about is the tour but get MM thrown in there. It's not only the fault of the press. It's his fault for being with a woman who requires press attention. He should stop blaming the press for the things that he should know better not to do. Time to fully grow up I think.
^i've heard that the aristocratic people's get up to all sorts of wild stuff when they stay at country estates. They change partners and have sex to doing drugs and such. So that's what I was referring to that you've highlighted.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on November 29, 2016, 10:48:16 pm
The royal family is on its last legs anyway. Harry's getting raked over the coals over Meghan and his pr tax funded holiday/tour of the Caribbean as he navigates from on diplomatic faux pas to another. The royal family is giving each commonwealth country reason to get rid of them and not have to pay anything towards them. This Meghan farce was another issue that they didn't need as they try to present unity towards the remaining commonwealth countries that still have the queen as head of state.


What diplomatic faux pas has Harry committed on this tour? PM Browne made inappropriate remarks about honeymoons, which was hardly Harry's fault, and the PM had to explain himself later. Fidel Castro's death was hardly Harry's responsibility. He could not have walked out of that reception during the minute's silence or there really would have been an incident. Harry is also not responsible for a Royal naval vessel developing technical trouble. It didn't make him late on arrival anyway.

 Crowds have turned up and Harry has been a favourite with them as the photos have shown. The one incident which went wrong was one medal that wasn't pinned on properly and fell. Harry retrieved it and repinned it. The PM of St Lucia has stated that he was very pleased with the visit.

Harry's been pleasant and tactful with everyone and he's certainly not been hauled over the coals by the Queen, any of the Governor Generals of the islands or anyone else. He's had fun with the crowds and they've responded to him, as photos of his events have shown. The Queen staying as head of state hasn't been mentioned by anyone. Harry will continue on in Barbados, weather permitting, making friends with the local people and performing his duties as instructed. He's opening hospital,buildings today.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 10:52:57 pm
If HM has agreed, it would mean she's completely and utterly given up on her grandsons and is ready to die. Just think, Harry and William were once the jewels of the dynasty and she lost them. Seeing them marry women like Kate and Meg, seeing the mess they've made of their lives, has likely led to a huge blow, one after another and frankly I don't think she has the energy to keep her out of control grandchildren in line anymore. They're running way too wild and like an out of control untrained thoroughbred, I am certain that there won't be any attempts to remind Harry to respect himself.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 12:29:16 am
^^I'm just paraphrasing what I've read in the comments.
^he mightn've outgrown the club H days of being with valid women who throw themselves at him. It must be why he continues to get linked to party type women or ones that are easy.
I don't get why people cry that they want privacy. It makes you wonder what's so bad that they want hidden. In her case, her love life couldn't be because she seems to deal with powerful men who she uses to get to the next thing. Maybe it's her treatment of the crew on projects she's worked on who don't have a high opinion of her.  Maybe she thinks that Harry's press office will protect her from getting criticized.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on November 30, 2016, 02:50:06 am
I doubt kp will ever do that again. They were played and it's his fault for approving that mess of a letter to be released and now both of them will got billion times more criticism. Except one enjoyed the results. She managed to act her way into getting her way with kp. I'm interested in what the fans, press and gen pop will think of him, once he doesn't have any tours and more time to go on a break.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 02:59:18 am
He used to be viewed as a man who couldn't be played with. If a woman is thought to be enjoying the connection to him, she's quickly dismissed. Cressida and now Mehgan is getting away with so much crap that underminds his position that it's very jarring. I think that the most important part of the statement was the admitance of a relationship with her. Since then, she's blasted this info all over her Wiki page and her pr reps have gone to town using every occation to keep her name linked to his. I'd image people are a bit nervous as to what crap he'll further get into during his down time.
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chelley10, denver, United States, moments ago
Good thing his tour in the careibean is almost over. Radar Online is reporting he's going to marry Meghan Markle in the US, California to be exact. According to the story, it's Markle's wish to marry in California and Prince Harry has agreed to do anything to make Markle happy. And the Queen has approved all this supposedly. Gag me! Something stinks about this whole thing. Six months of dating and already wedding plans? Marrying in US in order to do anything for Meghan? This is a D-list actress, attention hungry nobody (her fame has only come about due to dating Harry) who is surrounded by a tacky, bankrupt family who only wants to make money off Harry as well. The old saying, if it looks too good to be true, it usually is. Even if they do marry, I predict the other shoe will drop and it will not be the perfect love story Markle wants to shove in everyone's face.

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People believe this crap because Harry acts like a reality show celebrity when he's not "on duty" instead of a man who could have fun but remain loyal to his role. In other words, not get entangled with a chancre fake like Mehgan.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 30, 2016, 04:40:33 am
KF _-I think he has done very well on this tour especially given the tension surrounding it.  He also did some grown up type things he has not done on previous tours - like the awards giving out.  So I do not see this as a faux pas type tour.  He did well.  Not as smooth as the Queen - but he is not as practiced as she is.

His relationships have always been chaotic - Chelsy please?  Drama all the time.  Most of his known GF's have ended up in the press  using their relationship with him to sell something.

This one is really off the wall though - between the mania of the press - especially the tacky online sites and her constant feeding into it - this is truly nuts.

I wonder if Harry is one of those guys who loves the drama and excitement in a relationship but does not concentrate on the women, the relationship?  Just too much drama.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 05:26:11 am
I think Harry has some serious addiction issues and is apparently working them out on dating. He's clearly not stable and he very clearly is kind of making the same mistake, hoping that the woman in his life will walk away, but they aren't and he refuses to stop playing with fire. One thing I notice about Windsor men is how they believe that the women they arbitrarily decide to treat as mistresses have habit of going all Fatal Attraction on them. William ditched Kate in 2007 and thought she would go and build her own life while he moved on, but she stalked him all over the place and instead of going to the police like any normal man would, he took the crazy witch back and essentially FED her psychotic view of how life should go.

I think Harry is doing the same. He dropped Chelsy who is now showing that she's not going to become a lawyer and live her own life and now he's with Meg, who is clearly not being told upfront (as far as I know) that she has no business pulling leaks to the press while posing and then shrieking about having her privacy violated. Major instability there and the potential to get worse after she ends up (if) married to Harry. She'll be able to abuse the press nonstop while posing.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 30, 2016, 10:50:20 am
I think that someone else said it - if it tooks too good to be true, it probably is. Before the news of Meg lying about the break in and marching with Harry's clothes and a statement bag from DM building to KP gates, I really, really liked her. She does look good on paper. But in reality - she showed herself not as a world class lady but as a world class user and manipulator. I still love Suits, her acting in the halmark movie was not that good, in anyi social her role was good but that movie is so wrong on so many levels.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 11:14:51 am
Thing is, she's way past her prime in regards to breaking at a higher level and I think the main reason is a lack of smarts. With the right cleverness she could be at a higher level at a much sooner rate and basically have had a genuinely good career. She has oddly failed to make a real respectable long term career for herself. Thing is, that it's not just luck or talent, but being smart and decisive. I always hold the view that the only reason the A-listers are there is because they figured out how to fit in with current trends, stay abreast of developing trends, while honing one's craft. It's not like Meg isn't able to find time. If Harry does in fact go crazy enough to marry her, I am certain he would end up in even more of a personal mess. Thing is, that it's not like he would be able to focus on his work, he would in fact start going as crazy as she would. In fact, it would be tabloid heaven.

All the more reason for him to marry her in my view.

So far we've heard more leaks that hes' going to marry her and I am certain that there is a point where it'll all be confirmed. She's been acting giddy and I know the seedier tabloids are not at all 'the best,' but the tabloids have often had the real scoop as compared to the 'respectable' press.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on November 30, 2016, 11:37:39 am
It would be very interesting if Harry ended up with her. She's not his usual type. I always thought he'd marry a blonde woman.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 12:03:58 pm
I think there's talk of marriage simply because of that statement that no other women has gotten.  I think that it could've been her threatening to sue him for deformation of character after she out the "relationship" but no one believed her. So KP agreed to the statement to solve the issue. She then plays the role of the girlfriend visiting him at KP and flashing the bracket as well as inserting herself, via her pr rep, in articles about him and her own.
I see this as a sick relationship because of her murky background and her lack of discretion. I don't see any stability in this, just drama.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on November 30, 2016, 02:45:26 pm
Good lord, she's the exact opposite of everything the RF stands for. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 03:12:52 pm
Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle caught up in gang crime in new trailer for Anti-Social: Special Edition
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3984484/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-caught-gang-crime-new-trailer-Anti-Social-Special-Edition.html

She' getting quite a bit of negative comments.
This seems like a waste of money to issue again as I doubt it'll make the money back.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 30, 2016, 04:16:57 pm
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His relationships have always been chaotic - Chelsy please?  Drama all the time.  Most of his known GF's have ended up in the press  using their relationship with him to sell something.
I wonder if Harry is one of those guys who loves the drama and excitement in a relationship but does not concentrate on the women, the relationship?  Just too much drama.

Cate  :flower: exactly!!!

Similar to his mother......Emotionally unstable.
Diana Frances - Lady Diana    - Princess Diana, Heart
Henry David   - Prince Henry  - Prince Harry, Heart

He wants privacy / quiet dating / discreet woman   :wopedo:  but always dates with ''queen-drama'' / and like fame or are already famous

William and Harry - Like anyone ..... with defects and virtues

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After more than two years during which he has been, on the face of it, single, his relationship with the American actress Meghan Markle has been the elephant in the room during this tour.
Sources close to the couple say that after three months of friendship and fun dating followed by a couple of months of intense passion, theirs is a serious relationship that could eventually result in marriage, if Meghan is able to put up with the baggage that goes with being a royal girlfriend.Aside from issuing a controversial letter complaining about the public and media's reaction to news of the relationship, those who work for Harry decline to be drawn on their boss's romance and, like him, grow visibly tense if it is mentioned.
Aside from issuing a controversial letter complaining about the public and media's reaction to news of the relationship, those who work for Harry decline to be drawn on their boss's romance and, like him, grow visibly tense if it is mentioned.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/738039/Prince-Harry-grown-up-royal-duties-tour-Caribbean-Queen-family


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 04:40:08 pm
Yes, he does like the drama, but what's up with the them all being tense at the mention of her name? Why would the mention of the romance cause discomfort to Harry and those that work for him. So according to this article, after friendship and intense passion, it's said to be serious but by all account Harry and no one else is happy about it. What kind of bs is this? Passion could also mean her going after him with lawyers to sue him for defamation of character after he remained silent after she outed the relationship. Oh, boy, here we go again with painting him as mature (he is when he's on duty doing public engagements and when he's doing his charity work), but engaged in an unstable, odd relationship with someone who lives far away.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 30, 2016, 04:48:17 pm
I'm convinced the press wants Harry to marry this train wreck so they can have years of materials to report on. Meghan is helping Harry get his message out  :laugh: how long has this institution existed? Seriously? He has chosen a two bit tv actress to get his message out. No one knew who this person was a month ago. This whole thing is beyond pathetic.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2016, 04:48:27 pm
All right.  I've asked nicely several times and been completely ignored regarding Double Posting.  Moving forward, anything past 11:47 am EST, unless your double post is a matter of life and death, I'm going to put a warning immediately onto your account and if it happens twice?  A one month ban.  I'm done.  TY.  YM  (Will make a public announcement as well.)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 04:57:20 pm
I think that because he's dating, people are interested in him again. It's very sad and dumb to have that view. Odd how everyone gets uptight when she's mentioned. So only now Harry's gotten a lightbulb moment that he could be the queen's special representative and carry out some of her duties worldwide? Better late than never but he also must realize that still being linked to a poser like Meghan underminds the seriousness of that.
 
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Now aged 32, however, he is ready to move up a gear in his royal duties towards a kind of work that requires a more serious, skilled diplomacy.
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if Meghan is able to put up with the baggage that goes with being a royal girlfriend.  
Not going to work if he's serious about growing up and taking on more serious responsibilities.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/738039/Prince-Harry-grown-up-royal-duties-tour-Caribbean-Queen-family

We all know she's a train wreck but I guess they have to act like she's a potential wife to save face.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 30, 2016, 04:59:23 pm
^ YM about double post
I thought it was just for Talk and opinion

And not for materials / news  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2016, 05:03:15 pm
^Ok, but why would this thread be any different from any other?  At no time has any Mod ever stated differently w/this one? You've been around here a long time and we're thrilled with that but surely you know better than any newbie and I really appreciate your cooperation.  Thank you.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on November 30, 2016, 05:09:53 pm
I think that he was blindsided by her 'accomplishments' and 'big charitable heart' and 'overcoming adversity' and 'not wanting a cent off of her ex husband's fat bank account' and the nightmare awakening started after she made a fool of him with actressing him into a KP statement against the 'bad people in the world who are out there to get her'. I hope that this time he opens his eyes AND learns his lesson about the types of women he is going for: women who would gladly take on the freebies job of get setting, hand waving, titled / entitled life. of a woman who married into fame and wealth.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Vesper on November 30, 2016, 05:15:37 pm
^^^Then he should state it that way. You have an institution that has been in existence for centuries and you are telling that a member of said institution needs a celebrity to get the word out. The people that are getting paid to handle him need to get fired then.

He's getting more interest as a result of his love life, sure. However, I would argue that not all interests are good, especially if he's being reduced to a celebrity and fudder for the entertainment value. Palmer has it backwards because she's the one who's profile has been raised.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 30, 2016, 05:20:51 pm
^^ YM - ok ,and sorry

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if Meghan is able to put up with the baggage that goes with being a royal girlfriend.
I think he's tired, so if she wants to accept
Then she will be chosen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 05:33:16 pm
I'm starting to think that the tension in the air at the mention of her name might be because they're using her to make people talk about Harry and pay attention to what he's doing. If this is an accurate account of him actually getting that he's a great asset to the queen who has a way of connecting to people the same as Diana, then this so called romance has to be dissolved when he gets back from the tour. It'll be better to not drag this out as she doesn't fit into his long range plan.
^^it's quite dim to think that a d lost celebrity who's using him to elevate her own self is helping Harry do anything. So that view contradicts that Harry and his handlers are serious about him being the queen's envoy then. She's made Harry look bad because people see right through what she's in this relationship for. So she's not a help but a hindrance.
^i doubt with the long distance and her other baggage that it'll work, not to mention she's rubbed the British people the wrong way (being called racist), he'll be wasting his time, money and energy and throwing his bright future away if he's really is with her, IMO.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on November 30, 2016, 06:21:53 pm
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is a serious relationship that could eventually result in marriage,if Meghan is able to put up with the baggage that goes with being a royal girlfriend.
So the sentence makes sense.
I think he is tired: to try, to find/search for right woman, to try to please the family - public -circle friends(relation to choice) ,the girlfriend complain about the press and people judging  - Tired of investigating the girls' past -Tired of frustrating girlfriends (explaining the difference between Henry for Harry)- tired of being frustrated by choosing wrong

but .... with the aggravation (is sad) that he seems to like drama, in the relationship


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those who work for Harry decline to be drawn on their boss's romance and, like him, grow visibly tense if it is mentioned.
Hi   :hi:  Edward !

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Sources close to the couple say that after three months of friendship and fun dating followed by a couple of months of intense passion
Hi   :tehe:  Jason!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 30, 2016, 07:41:38 pm
I honestly find it rather telling that quite a bit of her tv and movie time involves sex scenes. Unusually actresses who aren't that great end up with a lot of that on their plate because frankly they don't have what it takes to land a more starring role in tv and movies that don't involve any of that and are more serious. Gratuitous sex scenes is the name the game. Always the sexy girlfriend but never the star.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 08:28:08 pm
^just like with Harry.
The comments under the DM article about the re-release of the movie are really letting her have it and educating her so called fans and foreigners why the British people who Harry gets involved with as a potential wife is thei business.
Film bosses cash in on Meghan Markle's romance with Prince Harry by re-releasing her low-budget crime drama (with a lot more of her in the new trailer!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3984484/Prince-Harry-s-girlfriend-Meghan-Markle-caught-gang-crime-new-trailer-Anti-Social-Special-Edition.html


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 30, 2016, 08:42:59 pm
i always trying to pin point what her acting reminds me of watching suits and now the trailer :idea: Kristen Stewart mix with Emma Watson


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 09:22:03 pm
She must be loving this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 30, 2016, 09:23:13 pm
i always trying to pin point what her acting reminds me of watching suits and now the trailer :idea: Kristen Stewart mix with Emma Watson
= constipation face. :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2016, 09:30:13 pm
Is it over yet?  Man, I h#te this thread.  Just a small vent.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on November 30, 2016, 09:34:13 pm
 :there: I know how you feel Yooper. I'm honestly thinking of just poking in very briefly daily and refraining from commenting if I can until it's over cause I'm sick and tired of MM and Harry's No Photomance and have other things more interesting I need to be seeing to. Someone wake me when he comes to his senses and drops her for good. :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on November 30, 2016, 09:37:13 pm
 :tehe:
Harry's face when he met Rihanna today. Wow. Now she's a beauty. If he wants crazy and drama in a relationship, she'd be a better choice and she's from a commonwealth country. Unfortunately Meghan looks too manufactured compared to RiRi who doesn't give a f what people think of her as she's just herself, to some trashy to others inspiration.
Sorry I can't post just the picture.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3986972/Prince-Harry-visits-Queen-Elizabeth-Hospital-Barbados.html

^^I hope very soon if we're to really believe that he wants to be the queen's representative and do some of her duties overseas. For instance, on the tour, he knighted someone on behalf of the queen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on November 30, 2016, 10:17:01 pm
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His relationships have always been chaotic - Chelsy please?  Drama all the time.  Most of his known GF's have ended up in the press  using their relationship with him to sell something.
I wonder if Harry is one of those guys who loves the drama and excitement in a relationship but does not concentrate on the women, the relationship?  Just too much drama.

Cate  :flower: exactly!!!

Similar to his mother......Emotionally unstable.
Diana Frances - Lady Diana    - Princess Diana, Heart
Henry David   - Prince Henry  - Prince Harry, Heart

He wants privacy / quiet dating / discreet woman   :wopedo:  but always dates with ''queen-drama'' / and like fame or are already famous

William and Harry - Like anyone ..... with defects and virtues



yup - too much like his mother - not so stable


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on November 30, 2016, 10:57:05 pm
^^ and ^^^  :thankyou: for making me feel not so alone in my frustration/teeth grinding over this fiasco.

I'm kind of taking the long view on this whole mess-o-rama and I figure the English have a lot to come to terms with already in the future:  The passing of HM, PC crowning, Camilla!!!, Waity's inertia, PW's petulance, and who knows what else, so to add in a divorced, common-law-evacuee, C+ actress from the US/L.A., strong arming with a bank of lawyers and who seems to have zero filters on her own ambitions?  Naah, I don't think so. 


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Snowpea on November 30, 2016, 11:00:12 pm
^^ and ^^^  :thankyou: for making me feel not so alone in my frustration/teeth grinding over this fiasco.

I'm kind of taking the long view on this whole mess-o-rama and I figure the English have a lot to come to terms with already in the future:  The passing of HM, PC crowning, Camilla!!!, Waity's inertia, PW's petulance, and who knows what else, so to add in a divorced, common-law-evacuee, C+ actress from the US/L.A., strong arming with a bank of lawyers and who seems to have zero filters on her own ambitions?  Naah, I don't think so. 

And this is just the tip of the iceberg they have to deal with.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 11:17:19 pm
Any bets the courtiers are planning on bolting out of the country after Charles?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2016, 04:01:36 am
They should save their sanity and leave now like the others have before like Jamie. Look at the work that the courtiers and Harry's staff had to do to rehab his image after Vegas. It worked to a great extent, but now he goes and damages himself by getting involved in this very odd thing with Mehgan. This is a fiasco made more strange with the tenseness from Harry and his staff whenever her name is mentioned. I really hope that he either stays with her and ruin himself and further bring's the monarchy down or finally give her the boot becasue she's not going to be accepted because of her divorce for one, and implying that the UK is racist not to mention her game playing and bringing her lawyers into the mix. One way or the other, Harry has to make a decision and stick with it. He can't continue to have one foot in the party, hedonistic, jet set life and continue to get mixed up with women that only use him for his press appeal and cause a mess and in the semi-diplomatic representative of the queen. So it's either his legacy and the queen or Mehgan and a life wasted.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2016, 05:49:35 am
I think at this point Harry is toast; he's as bad as his brother in trying to have it both ways and this always has been their undoing. In reality, healthy people don't put up some kind of front, they don't think they can switch off the good and bad behavior and go about their daily lives one way or another.

IF I were a courtier I would BAIL NOW and spare myself being caught up in all this contradictory mess. I am certain that at this point there's a point where there is no more hope, but realistically, what else can they do? The House of Windsor is literally unraveling between our eyes.

Meg is another perfect example of a prince playing with fire and basically getting his nation burned.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 01, 2016, 05:56:01 am
Meghan's behavior is going to make upper-class people not want to date outside their race. If anything goes wrong it's your fault, you're "racist" and it's all over the press/Internet, read by people from all over the world? No wonder they stick with their own social circles, BBB types.  :-


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 06:25:06 am
How long does it take to recut a movie from the original longer version? Surely it can't take such a short amount of time as this to get the whole thing recut and ready for download as fast as this has. People on Youtube always complain about how long it takes then to edit their videos and timing with this one just seems wrong to me.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2016, 06:57:43 am
Meghan's behavior is going to make upper-class people not want to date outside their race. If anything goes wrong it's your fault, you're "racist" and it's all over the press/Internet, read by people from all over the world? No wonder they stick with their own social circles, BBB types.  :-

Or class.

Each year that went by, Kate and the press accused William (indirectly of course) of being classist and elitist. It has hammered that Kate, since she was middle class and came from an intact family, that she was so much better and moral than his friends and relatives from childhood. It was always about class and about how this was the 'good' middle class girl versus the evil aristocracy at every turn. If William didn't bend over for her, she would accuse everyone around him of being prejudiced against her and deliberately scheming against her. in 2007, he was accused (along with the rest of his family) of being elitist and treating her like she was nobody to him. Ironically, she acted like she was owed a ring just because she WAS middle class.

I find that a bitter irony mainly since after all, if William were blue collar, he wouldn't register on her radar except as a quick fling behind everyone's backs. She wouldn't be seen in public with him and she certainly wouldn't have him home to spend time with her family.

Within their own set, they at least don't worry about acceptance issues after a breakup and basically move on with goodwill and good memories.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 01, 2016, 09:00:24 am
Meghan's behavior is going to make upper-class people not want to date outside their race. If anything goes wrong it's your fault, you're "racist" and it's all over the press/Internet, read by people from all over the world? No wonder they stick with their own social circles, BBB types.  :-

Viscount Weymouth caused a rift with his parents by marrying a Nigerian oil tycoon's daughter. Emma Mcquiston had been known to the family since her childhood (if I remember correctly). A totally different prospect (classwise) than MM and yet still not accepted into the Bath family. She has behaved impeccably.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 01, 2016, 11:14:23 am
 :sob:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 01, 2016, 11:21:46 am
MM's mixed race is not the issue. The issue is her bulldozing her way in life and the lying, strong arming, manipulation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 11:26:51 am
I totally wouldn't have a problem about Harry dating someone of mixed race, so long as she was natural about herself an her demeanor and most importantly of all respectful to his position, family, and people of UK and commonwealth. MM has shown none of that, this whole thing has been about her and what she wants right from the beginning. At this point I actually want him to date a girl like I just described so she can put MM in her place and put her dramatics into perspective.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 01, 2016, 11:37:43 am
Tanna says he would be very surprised if the story that Harry offered to pay for security for Sparkle was true -


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2016, 11:39:42 am
I think that like Kate, Meg has no idea that she might in fact be pushing herself into a life she doesn't belong in. It's a pretty lie that we're told as children that we're all the same and no one has any right to discriminate and basically they should be accepted wherever they want to go in life. Meg, like Kate, operates according to a double standard: it's okay for her to be picky and choosy, but LORD FORBID THEY not get to go where they want when they want.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 11:48:32 am
Dickie Arbitter had a reliable(?) source telling him it was just a fling, which I think is really what it started as in the begining and then MM got it into her head to change the narrative because she wanted more and she wanted recognition hence why she outed the relationship. It established her as his girlfriend so that he couldn't date anyone else at the same time as he could've done had it remained private, why I don't get is where does she get off being so hypocritical when she's seeing her COMMON LAW BOYFRIEND when she's also making moves on Harry, lord forbid he not be exclusive though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2016, 11:52:03 am
Meg is the consequence of Harry not really realizing what his position is about. He definitely can't box his life into sections because what he's done in his private life, messing with her, has now messed up his public life. The 2 things that stick out to me in that Express article was that everyone was tense the mention of her name and if she can put up with what comes with him as a royal. I think his on his last leg and the courtiers will keep him busy and deal with Meghan now that the tour's finished. He'll have to think more now before he acts as he's officially the queen's representative because a misstep will do untold damage to the queen.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 01, 2016, 11:56:00 am
Mandosiel, what did you describe?
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At this point I actually want him to date a girl like I just described so she can put MM in her place and put her dramatics into perspective.

Kuei - yes the hypocrisy is what makes it so much more dramatic


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 01, 2016, 12:04:45 pm
Harry needs to clean up his mess of a life before any woman should even think about getting mixed up with him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 12:26:58 pm
I totally wouldn't have a problem about Harry dating someone of mixed race, so long as she was natural about herself an her demeanor and most importantly of all respectful to his position, family, and people of UK and commonwealth. MM has shown none of that, this whole thing has been about her and what she wants right from the beginning. At this point I actually want him to date a girl like I just described so she can put MM in her place and put her dramatics into perspective.

Basically said that I don't care if she'd be mixed or not, so long as she knew when to respect certain things and she was just natural and comfortable with herself and how she looked. I love mixed race women, they can frankly have some startlingly beautiful combinations in their appearance due to said mix race, someone who's comfortable with their heritage and don't see the point in making as big of an issue of it as MM seems to be.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 01, 2016, 01:19:14 pm
exactly, and how hard could it be to find a woman who is respectful to the UK people, to the brf, to the institution of monarchy and to her bf. how hard can it be to find that kind of woman. are the basic human qualities so hard to find? or they are just hard to find where Harry looks for his women... Soho house.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 01:39:31 pm
No sh*t, you'd swear we were asking for Mother Teresa wrapped up in a brain surgeon. Someone with some basic common decency and respect would be nice, who doesn't see themselves being more important than remembering and honoring those that fought and died, trying to make sure that people like her could actually exist cause lets not forget Hitler would've commited outright genocide with the black race if he had won but not getting into that, who so called wants to join an age of old institution but has no respect for its history, customs and way of life. She's like Kate but 10× worse cause she actually actively works at trying to sell her lie and make herself out to be Meg the Magnificent when she's Meg the Meglomaniac, slow your roll girl...no one wants Magnificent, that sh*t is not real. We just want natural, caring, kind, respecful, human being we can look up to. Not one who uses little kids as a pr photo prop on her way to a fashion shoot. If it's like that I'd rather see Harry date a crop duster.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 01, 2016, 03:10:36 pm
Someone like Queen Maxima or crown princess Victoria or Queen Rania


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 01, 2016, 04:18:43 pm
Harry's spending the day with Rihanna!  :loveshower:  and someone posted that the tour will end on December 5th, the same day that Meghan's movie gets reissued. It might be taking long to cut because they have to get the scenes that were originally left out of the movie when it was first released. Someone commented that she has 2 nude scenes in it. Maybe that's why she carping on about her privacy because she doesn't want those scenes to see the light of day. I guess we'll here about it if it's true.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 01, 2016, 04:24:21 pm
There's no privacy if she signed a contract agreeing to do nude scenes, that's on her and they have a legally binding contract that says they can do whatever they want with the footage.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: D.I.R. on December 01, 2016, 11:46:51 pm
Things You Didn't Know About Prince Harry's New Girlfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMqy-64kyYU


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on December 01, 2016, 11:58:52 pm
Insufferable.  So tired of her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 02, 2016, 04:29:55 am
for what it is worth- Katy Nicholls speculation re: Meaghan and Christmas on ET Online

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/why-meghan-markle-will-not-be-with-prince-harry-and-the-royal-family-this-christmas/ar-AAl27TV?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhphttp://


In short - Meaghan was sighted leaving LA at the airport for parts unknown  on Tuesday

Katie says she and Harry will be meeting up - maybe in LA but more likely in London

Katie says her sources claim there will be no meeting with the family for Christmas festivities

So Katie surely thinks the affair is still on.  So I'd expect a London sighting of her and maybe the two of them soon.

LOL - there was little in the article anyone here might not have also figured out!  So much of the so called royal experts gossip is speculation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 04:42:28 am
Why would Meg be there, she's just a girlfriend. OH yeah, Kate started the idea of girlfriends being present at family events.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 02, 2016, 04:54:15 am


film of her at the airport

http://starmagazine.com/v...arkleHarryLAXWeddingVideohttp://


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 05:07:11 am
It'd be better if he took up with Rihanna if he wanted to ruin himself because at least they have great chemistry and he seemed to really like her than someone fake as Mehagn. Someone commented under an article a few days ago that she tipped off a gossip magazine, I guess it was Star magazine, about her holiday plans but the story's on hold. It would make sense if they got her at the airport. Judging by the tenseness from Harry and his staff when her name was mentioned, something not good is going on behind the scenes. Now that the tour's over, we'll see what's what.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 06:05:33 am
^ The next few weeks should be very interesting.  :bouncy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 06:27:27 am
I'm astounded how in a few short weeks, Harry has utterly blasted his reputation. Utterly in ribbons.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 02, 2016, 06:42:56 am
yeah - I'd say the next few days (after the 5th when he gets home) is going to be very interesting - I feel sure she in going to show up with him - or in circumstances in London such as her pap stroll from KP to Whole Foods that will make it very obvious that she is there.  And when that happens - nuclear explosion of media.

Prepare yourselves - it is going to be epic.

Yes KF - it is amazing how the bubble has been burst.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 06:47:17 am
Oh man I love this; this is just too too cool.

I'm actually less angst about the destruction of an institution, so much as I am actually kind of getting into this epic comedy with a zest I've never had before.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 10:09:06 am
^ I'm sorry to say it, Kuei Fei but that's exactly how I feel too. I hope she continues to push him in a corner because that's the only way that Harry will come to his senses.... I hope.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 10:59:21 am
Dumping Meg won't solve his main problem, which is himself. He is his own problem and worst enemy. It's not like he can't just hire the best possible courtesan in existence and have the time of his life in the sack and once satisfied, send the courtesan on her merry way with a jewel or large tip. His problem (and I think this is the same with other princes as well) is that he apparently wants to think of himself as 'better' than that and so creates the illusion of romance for himself and after finding some convenient pretext, drops the flings; although, the flings do not just allow themselves to be dismissed cavalierly.

He seems to think that this is just one big game; the courtiers work like fiends to build him up and give him something to stand on, but then he gets mixed up in another drama with another climber with a mess of a past and present personal life and blows it up to bits. Then the courtiers have to work to create yet another platform, only to see that one blown to bits as well. Harry has put himself in a vicious cycle and frankly he's the reason things go wrong. He can't stop putting himself in bad situations with bad people. He apparently can't stop doing this to himself. This is who he has become as a person.

I think that if he's pushed into a corner, he will look for someone to rescue him, but there won't be anyone there because he spent his twenties burning bridges and ignoring those who would have gladly had him if he had taken two minutes out of his busy rutting schedule to actually bond with them. It's not like he had to really make a living or pay bills or earn his own way. It's not like he had to go to Vegas, or go anywhere else. He threw all those chances in life away a long time ago and now that he might need help, the courtiers might help, but those days of anything beyond correct form is gone.

I'm not at all happy in a sense that this is good to see to happen to a fellow human being, but I do know that I am kind of getting a snarky sense of schaden about all this. During the glory years of Harry and William, the RF was condescending to so many people, passing the aristos by and basically thumbing their noses at so many potential allies, but go figure, now that Harry has made a mess of his life, the selfsame aristos and press are now in a position to condescend the formerly flawlessly glorious holy Hottie Harry. Complete Karma to the House of Windsor in my view. I don't think all those years of boozing, drugging, and messing around has been good to Harry and this is the result. The only women being willing to be on his arm are the types like Kate or Meg and no family would want to require a daughter of theirs to marry into that mess of a dynasty.

Watching Harry go down is like watching a formerly arrogant celeb get his comeuppance.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 02, 2016, 11:47:34 am
http://anarchygossip.blogspot.com.au/2016/12/blind-gossip-blind-item-family-in-tizzy.html

Blind Gossip Blind Item - Family In a Tizzy
One American actress is sending an entire foreign family into a tizzy!

This very famous and very rich foreign man is talking about proposing marriage to his girlfriend.

No, he has not purchased a ring yet. Right now he is just floating the idea to his family. The only problem? They are uniformly pushing back on his choice of a bride!

He fancies her quite a bit. Unfortunately, there is not a single member of the family who is encouraging the match!

His father is warning him that “a woman who is dramatic will be a problem.” [His brother] is telling him that he “is still young and has scads of time” to settle down.

Surprisingly, [his brother’s wife] has abstained from critiquing [the actress] directly. However, she has cautioned [her husband] that she thinks that [the actress] is “an opportunist” who “will do or say or be anything she has to” in order to make the marriage happen.
She also thinks that he is “too smitten to be making good decisions right now.”

The biggest influence on everyone, though, will be [his grandmother]. She has seen how one bad apple can place the entire family and their legacy in turmoil. She is encouraging both [father] and [brother] to “discourage” his choice as “unsuitable.”

The relationship is not a long one, so it will be interesting to see if the man will give it some time before making such a life-altering (and history-altering?) decision.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding the "brother's wife" stating she thinks the actress is an opportunist - wow, takes one to know one.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 12:03:37 pm
For me it's sad watching all that bright future going down for a person that's not worth it. I don't see him working for the queen if he's with her. She's a bomb (drama, getting lawyers, paranoid of her safety) and a distraction. I'm now curious about what the re-issue of the movie contains as she's heavily featured in the trailer.
Things still don't add up to me to totally believe that he's going against all to be with Meghan. Her drama and interfering, indirectly with the tour, and the tense feeling at the mention of her name. Harry's messed up but I feel still that he's not so bad as to f everything and cause further damage with her. How would he explain her to the queen? It could be over by December 5th if she's in the movie but naked as stated.
ITA that he's going to have to clean up his private life so he'll attract nice, suitable women otherwise it's Meghan and women like her will continue to use him and further erode his reputation and undermine the courtiers and royal family.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 12:49:41 pm
In the end Harry is very family oriented, it shows up in his astro chart consistently and we ourselves see it, I can't see him going against his family if they are all against it. He wouldn't cause a family rift just because he fancies her especially if they're all against it.

I'm on board with this one cause it sounds legit to me. I can't see them not counseling caution and patience/waiting with this one and just being all happy bunnies about it. I do however fully expect some drivel from Camp Meghan about how perfect she is for princesshood and maybe hitting at his family in some way making them look bad in comparison.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on December 02, 2016, 12:58:47 pm
So they'll get together before Christmas and he'll have a talk with her.  He'll tell her to cool it because of his family.  Any wagers on how she will react?  Keeping in mind that past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 01:45:25 pm
By lashing out at his family and making this all about her race. She's probably going to blow a fuse and go on about not understanding why they don't want her (unless it's got to do with melanin) when she's "perfect" for being Harry's bride because of her many "accomplishment". Malarkey Meghan I call her at this point. Refuses to see it's her behaviour not her colour that's making her unsuitable, they already think she's too dramatic if the blind item is true.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 01:53:54 pm
There's a pattern in her rise to fame - she couldn't book anything for 6-7 years after her 'big break', started dating a producer and the booked roles started rolling in. Then, when she started to act in Suits she needed some celebrity chef connections to make it in Toronto. He served  his purpose by inviting her as a plus one on a state engagement and she slipped her number to the lucky celebrity winner who can get her the weldwide fame 'she deserves'.

^ I don't think that the brf had a chance to be racist. She was too quick to burn beidges that were not even built.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 02:15:37 pm
She destabilized the ground around both sides of the river and made it unsafe and unsuitable even, nevermind any bridges being built. So far so good, Marjorrie Orr's prediction is proving spot on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 02, 2016, 04:17:27 pm
He must know somehow the image people once had of him, is long gone. No one will ever mention wanting for him to be king. Has anyone ever mentioned it since hurricane marbles came through? everything that he does will be eclipsed by her and that sleep inducing (jmo) tour is the perfect example. He rather dump any opportunity to "earn his privilege and respect from the public" as if he really could by himself, than his wallis.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 04:52:10 pm
‘Please make babies!’ Fans go into overdrive as they beg Prince Harry to DATE Rihanna after the pair meet in Barbados (but what about Meghan?)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3993920/Fans-beg-Prince-Harry-date-RIHANNA.html

They actually look like a couple. If he's going to ruin himself, RiRi will make the perfect person to do that with as she doesn't give a f and Harry likes her. Actually people do as well unlike fake Meg who's not getting any love in the comments.  :tehe:
Awh, it was too funny seeing Harry blush and get star struck when he met RiRi.    :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 05:15:23 pm
Before she met him she checked her cleavage so - secretly, she likes him too. But yes - he looked like he was single and had just seen his delicious dinner, not like a man in love, much less like a man who thinks about marrying his gf... unless he has a roving eye in which case it's a pity that so man people were seeing in him something that is just not there, might have never been there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 02, 2016, 06:43:40 pm
Rih with harry would be utterly ridiculous.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 06:47:35 pm
^^Proof he still hasn't found what he's looking for even with Meghan. If he had he wouldn't be looking elsewhere if you know what I mean. That and Harry's always liked big lovely jubblies and Meghan is well....not, so no surprise to me he was eyeing RiRi's tatas.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 02, 2016, 06:58:27 pm
^ she's in london so everyone will know for certain how much he loves meg.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 07:10:20 pm
This is beyond mental. Harry and everyone else is tense about her and she feels the U.K. is racist but she's in the U.K.? ^please let us know where you got this info.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 07:17:48 pm
Do we have this one yet?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3901116/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-met-school-friend-s-fashion-designer-wife.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3901116/amp/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-met-school-friend-s-fashion-designer-wife.html)
Now we know who to blame for setting up this unholy union.  :bat:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 07:23:55 pm
yes, and I think that Harry was on that trip too.  It is during that trip that she started having 'the bracelet', pure speculation of course

I would be surprised if she is not in London - she'll beat the drum until Harry falls for her story and proposes while under her hypnosis.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 07:40:27 pm
All the more for the queen to keep him extremely busy with having him stand in for her after she clips him around the head for bringing this disaster to their lives.
This designer is the one getting divorced from her husband who's friends with Wills. She's also friends with the York girls. I don't think it's a coincidence that they introduced this narcissistic woman to Harry knowing that she'd cause untold disruptions to the house of Windsor.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 08:18:03 pm
All the more for the queen to keep him extremely busy with having him stand in for her after she clips him around the head for bringing this disaster to their lives.
This designer is the one getting divorced from her husband who's friends with Wills. She's also friends with the York girls. I don't think it's a coincidence that they introduced this narcissistic woman to Harry knowing that she'd cause untold disruptions to the house of Windsor.

I'm seriously hoping that MM is not friends of the Yorkies. Not sure where this gossip came from? The timeline doesn't indicate that the Yorkies were involved but if there is something that I haven't seen, then I'd be happy to acknowledge that.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 08:28:00 pm
If she is that's the second girl they hook him up with that's a disaster. The Yorkies don't have it together he should definitely not be dealing with anyone they recommend, end of.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 08:32:01 pm
The designer's friends with the Yorks and I read that Meghan's pr firm used to represent Beatrice. Meghan's also mates with Millie Makentosh of Made in Chelsea fame who I believe is friends with the Yorks. The Yorks have an agenda to f up Charles plan of only using his sons for royal duties, so they messing with Harry because Wills can't be messed with, IMO. It's working because Meghan has messed with the tour.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 08:53:47 pm
 :o
The designer's friends with the Yorks and I read that Meghan's pr firm used to represent Beatrice. Meghan's also mates with Millie Makentosh of Made in Chelsea fame who I believe is friends with the Yorks. The Yorks have an agenda to f up Charles plan of only using his sons for royal duties, so they messing with Harry because Wills can't be messed with, IMO. It's working because Meghan has messed with the tour.

Thanks, Windsor2  :flower: This was news to me. So the Yorkies are now friends with reality show trash?  :o Could the house of Windsor not sink any lower through the young royals?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 08:55:45 pm
Tess there's no need to quote the text right above yours, use the ^ sign instead, otherwise it makes it confusing and it's unnecessary.

^^Wouldn't that piss off their granny cause obviously they are going to be getting it from her for introducing them. Whatever agenda they have with that is counterproductive to their cause cause Charles just likes them less and will make sure they have very little to do in his reign. I'm with Charles on this one, cut out the Yorkies they're trouble just like their mother and father.

In the end Harry's still dating from a very small pool of friends of friends. This one just happened to live outside the country and not be English. He still needs to get out of that circle though, rife with users and hangers-on. Yorks included.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 08:58:34 pm
Tess there's no need to quote the text right above yours, use the ^ sign instead, otherwise it makes it confusing and it's unnecessary.

^^Wouldn't that piss off their granny cause obviously they are going to be getting it from her for introducing them. Whatever agenda they have with that is counterproductive to their cause cause Charles just likes them less and will make sure they have very little to do in his reign. I'm with Charles on this one, cut out the Yorkies they're trouble just like their mother and father.

Excuse me? How does that make it confusing?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 09:02:01 pm
3 such posts and you'll fill up an entire page, plus quotes disrupt the conversation, we'd rather not read the same thing over and over.
use quotes for quoting something from and article or twitter or tumblr.

^^ sad but true, even if they did not do it maliciously (which at this point I start to doubt), they clearly are really bad judges of character. as a rule of thumb - if something looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 09:04:47 pm
3 such posts and you'll fill up an entire page, plus quotes disrupt the conversation, we'd rather not read the same thing over and over.
use quotes for quoting something from and article or twitter or tumblr.

Well woah.... Never been a problem on any other forum, particularly RD. And I have seen many quoted posts on here ... so maybe that argument doesn't hold?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 09:09:08 pm
^this is getting argumentative so I'm out of this line of conversation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 02, 2016, 09:13:52 pm
Here's how the posting is supposed to work:  Use the ^s to quote above you up to about 4 posts before yours.  Only insert the quote of the post to which you are responding if it goes beyond that four ^ distance.  If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.  Examples below:

In this thread, currently:

^Responding to Ariel.

^^ Responding to Tess.

The designer's friends with the Yorks and I read that Meghan's pr firm used to represent Beatrice. Meghan's also mates with Millie Makentosh of Made in Chelsea fame who I believe is friends with the Yorks. The Yorks have an agenda to f up Charles plan of only using his sons for royal duties, so they messing with Harry because Wills can't be messed with, IMO. It's working because Meghan has messed with the tour.

Responding to Windsor.

Helpful, I hope.  (No need to respond to me, Windsor, Ariel).

Thank you.  YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 09:15:24 pm
:o
The designer's friends with the Yorks and I read that Meghan's pr firm used to represent Beatrice. Meghan's also mates with Millie Makentosh of Made in Chelsea fame who I believe is friends with the Yorks. The Yorks have an agenda to f up Charles plan of only using his sons for royal duties, so they messing with Harry because Wills can't be messed with, IMO. It's working because Meghan has messed with the tour.
Thanks, Windsor2  :flower: This was news to me. So the Yorkies are now friends with reality show trash?  :o Could the house of Windsor not sink any lower through the young royals?

Tess there's no need to quote the text right above yours, use the ^ sign instead, otherwise it makes it confusing and it's unnecessary.

^^Wouldn't that piss off their granny cause obviously they are going to be getting it from her for introducing them. Whatever agenda they have with that is counterproductive to their cause cause Charles just likes them less and will make sure they have very little to do in his reign. I'm with Charles on this one, cut out the Yorkies they're trouble just like their mother and father.

In the end Harry's still dating from a very small pool of friends of friends. This one just happened to live outside the country and not be English. He still needs to get out of that circle though, rife with users and hangers-on. Yorks included.

The Yorkies act like this because they live their life according to PR, like a low level celebrity and aren't thinking about their nation at all. This is what happens when you raise your heirs like special snowflakes and raise them to have expectations of how life should be an not what it really is.

For reasons I do not know, the Yorkies are behaving in such a petty way.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on December 02, 2016, 09:24:32 pm
Here's how the posting is supposed to work:  Use the ^s to quote above you up to about 4 posts before yours.  Only insert the quote of the post to which you are responding if it goes beyond that four ^ distance.  If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.  Examples below:

In this thread, currently:

^Responding to Ariel.

^^ Responding to Tess.

The designer's friends with the Yorks and I read that Meghan's pr firm used to represent Beatrice. Meghan's also mates with Millie Makentosh of Made in Chelsea fame who I believe is friends with the Yorks. The Yorks have an agenda to f up Charles plan of only using his sons for royal duties, so they messing with Harry because Wills can't be messed with, IMO. It's working because Meghan has messed with the tour.

Responding to Windsor.

Helpful, I hope.  (No need to respond to me, Windsor, Ariel).

Thank you.  YM

I totally understand for multiple quotes.. but really for one quote? Maybe this forum is not for me. Such a pity as I was a major poster on enclave 24 and on RD but hey...time moves on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 02, 2016, 10:24:17 pm
^^given who raised them, I am not surprised at all
there's now a few says without a new leak from camp markle, I'm getting worried if everything's ok with her
for example, did she sleep well after seeing how her prince is princey to other, more beautiful and more famous women than her, and younger too ...
http://princeh3nry.tumblr.com/post/153958387381/so-how-did-you-agree-to-do-this-test-it-was


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 02, 2016, 10:26:36 pm
If the "Family in a Tizzy" gossip item is true, it is quite specific on reactions from a few family members.

Now, I wonder who would have put that information out there...who would benefit most from letting such very specific negative reactions to a PH/MM marriage be known...and who would have access?

I'm thinking it's got to be a Middleton.  Is it possible KM informed her mother of everybody's feelings?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 10:45:13 pm
Waity looks like she's on her last rope and the last thing she'd be thinking about is Harry's fling.
Blind items seem to be made up after the situation's already known. It's obvious that Meghan wouldn't be liked by how she's acting since she leaked the fling she's turning into the love story of the season.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 10:51:12 pm
^^I'm thinking more Camz somehow. She's the only one who's reaction is missing and Kate isn't nevessarily painted in a brilliant light by calling Meghan opportunistic. Meanwhile Camz is completely out and Charles is counseling caution due to dramatic nature. Don't look at what's thrre, look at what's missing.

We should put all the blind items together in chronological order and see the similarities and narrative they paint.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2016, 10:58:56 pm
I think Kate is in a tizzy since she looks down on so many people and it might offend her sense of propriety that Harry isn't marrying a member of a class that she fantasizes that she belongs to. She fancies herself as part of the gentry at the very least and it's not like she's the kind of woman that believes a person should earn one's own way. I think Kate is upset because if Harry marries and has a life of his own, she won't be able to monopolize his attention at engagements and of course, she will have to watch another woman basically manage his household like she's tried to. I don't think she's capable of letting go of her self assigned role as Sister Hen to Harry and I do believe she will pull rank against Meg if Meg marries in.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2016, 11:15:49 pm
At which point I would remind Kate (being whoever Harry marries) "b*tch you're just as common as I am...deal with it"


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 02, 2016, 11:23:04 pm
If the "Family in a Tizzy" gossip item is true, it is quite specific on reactions from a few family members.

Now, I wonder who would have put that information out there...who would benefit most from letting such very specific negative reactions to a PH/MM marriage be known...and who would have access?

I'm thinking it's got to be a Middleton.  Is it possible KM informed her mother of everybody's feelings?


How about an online anonymous blogger who works intermittently on this site just sitting there guessing and making the whole thing up?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 02, 2016, 11:40:53 pm
^yep. If the press steals our discussion for their articles, why not a blogger.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves with talk of Harry marrying Meghan.  :nervous: :thumbsdown: :ick:
From what I see, Harry and all are being cautious not to appear that they're against her whilst she's going all in with her pr push to let everyone know that she's with him. His tactic works but he and his staff gave away their true feelings with their tenseness at her name. Her tactics have been railed at in the press and social media and makes it obvious that she's not up to par.
The Yorks profit in Harry's chaos because it shows the firm that he can't be relied on to represent the firm and take on more responsibilities because his messy private life overshadows it, like this case here. The Yorks look mature and stable in comparison. Harry has to realize that he's the only one that could put a stop to this craziness by not hanging out with celebrities and users and get structure in his private life. I think he should work with the queen's office to know what she does and how being reckless and chaotic negates the respect that her position holds.
Ariel, she should take not at how Harry reacted when he first met RiRi and his treatment of her afterwards.
Now that the tour's ending, Harry should tell her to piss off and tell her lawyers to back down as well. She seems to have a pattern of using people and issuing outrageous demands. I totally believe Yooper's account that was told to her by an NBC bigwig. She's trouble period.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 03, 2016, 12:01:26 am
I don't think the York sisters are to blame. A lot of people set up friends with family members. We also don't know how close of friends they even are. Maybe all they did was introduce them to each other? And Harry had to want to hook up with her, it's not like they can force him to do anything.

I don't think most people even notice if the York sisters are more stable than Harry. 1) A lot of people don't even know who they are. 2) They have enough bad press of their own, so people who do know who they are don't seem to like them (lots of negative comments on articles about them).


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 12:10:21 am
They hooked him up with Cressida, this is once too many times in my book. Every time they introduce him to someone it just turns into a mess.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 03, 2016, 01:37:36 am
Maybe they didn't know they would act the way they did once they got together with Harry? They are just friends, they wouldn't know what they're like in a relationship.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2016, 02:05:24 am
The Yorkies have hung around these types all their lives. Neither parent wanted to introduce them to nice people, to people who did solid real work or good hard volunteer work with charities and neither parent grew up themselves. To the Yorkies, this is appropriate behavior and not out of line. I don't know why the Yorkies believe they have some kind of right to basically introduce him and dictate his love life, but that is the situation.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 02:10:47 am
^^true, but one was one an aspiring actress/model and the otherone was living with her chef boyfriend and is a fake poser. They introduce him to women that'll need pr and use him for it. He seems to only be introduced to women that are self centered and narcissistic. That's 2 women that the Yorks have a hand in now. I'd like to see Harry date a woman that doesn't bring any drama but is fun and has her own thing going on that doesn't need press or uses him.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2016, 02:23:23 am
Right, but the Windsors are at that very level. They've trashed their prestige and trashed their nation's image and basically, they are choosing to be this way and hang around these people. The Windsors are not so high and mighty that they have some right to think they're better than anyone. Meg is with Harry because despite his vaunted hype, he's no better than the rest of them. It's not like Harry is some high flying diplomat and HM has been exposed as a very weak Sovereign, despite her PR. The RF is running wild and running with the wrong crew. Harry is clearly alright with her since he brought her into his life and got all chivalrous and frankly, Harry is using her as well; I'm sure he's had her foot bills for their dates and I am sure that if she didn't have some kind of money of her own, he wouldn't be giving her a second look. He's a user just as much as she is, if not more since he doesn't need to be around rich people. He chooses to basically hang around people who will pay his bills so he'll hang out with them. He's a freeloader, using rich people to cosset him. He's not a good person and as for his glroious future, where exactly is that? When he was young, his glorious future was hyped and so was William's and now look at where they've chosen to come to. It's not like they're so much of anything anymore.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 03, 2016, 02:31:23 am
Rosella, do you really think a person who works on this site (a moderator?) is an anonymous blogger?  I doubt it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 03, 2016, 02:37:24 am
I wasn't a big fan of Harry when he was younger because he was constantly drinking/partying. Never in the papers for anything good. When a lot of time passes between the last "incident," my hopes go back up again. At this point (age 32), I think this is who he is and I don't think he'll learn. He likes the attention-seeking actress types.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 02:41:11 am
^^I can assure you, you can remove the Moderators from that equation on this site. TY, YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 03, 2016, 02:42:26 am
YM, I can't imagine it.  But who else "works" on this site?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 02:51:47 am
Watching the video of Harry and RiRi after taking the HIV test, Harry indicated that he wanted to ask her do do it because she's huge over the world but especially in America to get the word out. I thought that was interesting that he singled out America and was more than happy to have the joint interview and all with her. Although it's an important cause, the flip side to me was that it cut all talk of Meg out of the press. Headlines now are about fans wanting him to date RiRi and others about them taking the test together. He knows that any woman he's pictured with will get these types of headlines, so that's another reason he'd asked her for the "date" for the next day, imo.
The royal family are only given respect out of that for the queen. When she goes, that's it. So if they want to have any decent existence afterwards, they need to distance themselves from the celebrity life and get on with using their position and resources to make a difference in people's lives. Harry should only have a cordial relationship with entertainers but seek dating partners outside of that and the party scene. I think the craziness of Cressida and Meg should put him way off aspiring entertainers.
leogirl, if he's truly to work for the queen as her representative, he'll have to grow up and put those types of women to the side. He can't be taking seriously and it would reflect badly on the queen, to have a narcissistic actress/model/ singer overshadow what he's doing by playing media games. He's going to have to be very discrete and chose women that has self respect who'd want to keep their dating low key until they're firm in where the relationship's going.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 03:06:29 am
Moderators, sorry for the double post.  :sorry:

EXCLUSIVE: Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle wraps up warm for a grocery run in Toronto while he finishes off his Caribbean tour

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Look, no bodyguard, no minders, just herself looking glum. She looks like she's shopped to stay home for a while.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 03:21:44 am
^^^^Nobody.  Lean and mean staff here and, trust me, please, I've known the slaves who work this gig a long time.  Not a chance.

^I love ya, Windsor.  You know that, but my word is my bond and I've made my recent stance on double posting super clear.  I'm sorry but one warning for you.  I'll tell you what I will do, though, after reflection.  If there are no further double postings for a week, I'll remove the warning.  That seems fair to me. YM


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 03, 2016, 03:46:40 am
YM, I appreciate all that you and the other originators/managers of this site do for us all.  It must take a tremendous amount of time overseeing everything.  It is an important job, too.  You keep clearing the path so the truth can get out there.  A hard fight against the (often times amateur) manipulations of Mr. Knauf.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 03, 2016, 04:19:51 am
In my last post I wasn't  referring to this forum, Royal Gossip, or anyone on it at all. I was posting about blind items on the internet like 'Royal Family in a Tizzy' 'What Royal is having an affair this week. Guess!' and the anonymous bloggers who originally put items like this out on the Internet. 9/10ths of these blind items about royals and celebs are made-up out of their imaginations, IMHO, as I said.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: spanishlover on December 03, 2016, 06:05:15 am
  :bored: she is wearin the EXACT same outfit she wore in a previous snap pic except for "bright" royal blue LA hat and obviously bigger coat cuz it's colder I guess


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 03, 2016, 06:09:01 am
wow - Splash has photographers hiding out at Toronto supermarkets just in case any celeb walks by?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 03, 2016, 07:50:09 am
just look at her sad, sad face - they are invading her privacy, they are damaging her brand by seeing her in an ordinary supermarket... Harry should protect her by getting her to London from Dec 5th till the time she manages to get him to propose.

and of course she's with the ugly camouflage hat and a big coat ... but no pantihose - cause it's that cold everywhere except for her feet.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 07:56:41 am
She looks like she's definitely been reading the comments section of articles. :tehe: Not to mention I'm pretty sure she's either been told to lay low and quit getting in the way, cause she sure looks like someones rained on her parade. Must be hard knowing fans would rather see him with RiRi than her either way.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2016, 08:18:23 am
It could be that she's getting down from a manic phase. It's not like she's been spending time working like crazy, she's been on some kind of igddy ride and she looks like she's crashed. I do think that she's tired out and it has taken a toll on her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 08:21:49 am
Either way I don't think she's finding the royal spotlight as glorious as she thought it would be. Welcome to the jungle Meggie! :hi:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 03, 2016, 08:36:53 am
exactly - and now that the fans are all in for the west indies 
woman whose 'white european' heritage is very distant and seen in her eyes only - she can't play the race card against the 'internet trolls'


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 09:32:02 am
Yup, fans have no problem with him and a woman of colour. They just don't like HER!!! :tehe:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 11:44:05 am
YM, I appreciate all that you and the other originators/managers of this site do for us all.  It must take a tremendous amount of time overseeing everything.  It is an important job, too.  You keep clearing the path so the truth can get out there.  A hard fight against the (often times amateur) manipulations of Mr. Knauf.

 :thankyou:  We try not to be perceived as villains!

As for MM, since they're not filming at the moment she is no longer entitled to receive personal protection unless she pays for it herself.  Contractually, that's how it works.  You get (blank) sum of money for the season which means when staff is filming and you are required to show up.  At least that's what I'm hearing.  So, if she's still in fear for her life, it's on her to either call the police if an actual law is broken or pony up herself or get Harry to pay for it, if that's something he's willing to do.  The golden days of Hollywood when the studios covered their star's lives exclusively are long over.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 01:52:49 pm
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That's the face of someone who is nursing a broken heart. It will be a lesson for her in keeping schtum and not courting the press, if he has called time on the relationship. There could not be any further mileage in a relationship with someone quite so indiscreet. She really should have known that.
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verity johnson, stafford, United Kingdom, 42 minutes ago
serves her right, she has made a complete fool of herself.


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Yup.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 02:27:24 pm
It's a bit of a reach to pretend she didn't alert this photo call.  The Dodgers cap is a dead giveaway and standard celeb gear for those who want to be spotted.  I'm just having a hard time believing that a photographer just happened to be at that grocery store at that precise moment because if they followed her from her home then she'd squawk about privacy which she isn't so it's not a reach to see this as staged.  Not buying the sort-of sad face thing either other than attention-driven.  People who are truly sad send friends or bring friends with them to get groceries and certainly don't make sure to have themselves decked out in their best down-dressing.  Oh, this woman.  Honestly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 02:41:34 pm
^I guess she's not going to stop playing games. She does look stupid though because no one really cares.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 02:45:51 pm
Majority of the comments are bad, a lot don't care. People have just gone off her big time. Also one of two things, she either called the paps themselves and put on her sad face for show about the RiRi thing (suspicious timing cause nothing for days and then Harry gets cozy with RiRi and Meghan's spotted with a sad face, emotional manipulating much?) or someone inside alerted the media she was there. Either way I don't really care. :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 03:00:18 pm
^ and ^^ So true, so true.  It's a big fat deflated balloon at this point for me.  I'm just weary of feeling as though I'm being played but I took it on, hook line and sinker.  Mea culpa.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 03:04:36 pm
^She does understand that by nature Harry is naturally flirtatious right? He'll play around and flirt with women just because even if he doesn't mean anything by it, or does she think she should stop that behaviour just because he's with her. Just wait until she starts telling him about all his manerisms and behaviour she wants him to change, going to scuttle that relationship double quick. Making herself look long in the face even though she's long in the tooth isn't going to really work to curb his behaviour.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 03, 2016, 03:34:48 pm
I doubt that she was ever with him in a relationship. It was all about a fling, imo. Harry knows that when he's pictured with a woman, the talk will be about them dating. He deliberately did that with RiRi, imo. That's a direct smack in the face to Mehgan. No one stood up for her in the comments in that areticle or this one. She should've just left well enough alone and went about her business and enjoyed life without trying to snare Harry. Now she just comes off as a desperate attention seeking fake idiot.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 03:50:53 pm
I just realized I think we've been going at this all wrong! We've been asuming that she's actually more mentally mature than he is and that she's been manipulating him because she wants to be a princess and all the media hype and so on. But statisticly and literally mentally mature women find it difficult to be in a relationship with an immature man. So far her current and past antics remind me of those fake girls in highschool who used to get a nosejob and straighten their hair and then date/sleep their way up the social hierarchy in highschool till they landed the much coveted but still rather immature school star quarterback that all the other girls were after cause he was hunky and his family had money, cause Harry sure isn't the school class president! Once there then the social media barage starts so that everyone knows they're together and he's "hers" and I swear to god her latest media walk is just a sad emoji face twitter post after hearing about/seeing her boyfrind making nice with another super popular girl at school for a class project.

This whole relationship makes so much sense to me now. :o


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 03, 2016, 04:08:45 pm
that sounds about right. just add that these hs girls stay mean and calculating and continue to sleep their way up even after highschool, even after they get married, even after they have kids .. and the picture is complete.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 04:21:09 pm
Add on top of that the classic highschool drama queen theatrics of being mean girled/trolled/bullied by all the haters cause she's a special Sparkle which makes her testosterone fueled boyfriend act all galant and "stop trolling my girlfriend..." and getting a pretty good picture of just how this relationship is going, or why Harry's behaving like a sex-crazed teenager thinking it's love when it's just full on happy twig and berries syndrome.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2016, 04:40:30 pm
It worked for Kate.  It just remains to be seen if there are any working brain cells where they're needed most.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 03, 2016, 04:54:43 pm
I wish I could be totally on board with the fling theory. I'm waiting for the worst first, when he goes back to london and see if she shows up.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 03, 2016, 05:11:19 pm
RiRi looks far nicer than Markle  -  a very attractive woman with a gentle face.  Markle looks as hard as nails, she looks what she is - a z-lister who has been around the block too many times and it really shows in everything about her.  She looks as miserable as sin in that photo in the DM - she does not look like the cat that got the cream any more, far from it.  Now that the Harry press appears to be swinging away from her, unfortunately for her nobody is interested in her.  It was only ever Harry, and whoever he was with would have a high profile whilst with him. Take him out of the equation and it has gone back to nboody is overly interested in her.  Her face speaks volumes, and they are not good.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 03, 2016, 05:23:40 pm
she could be acting, just like she was acting scared when she told him that people broke into her home.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on December 03, 2016, 08:14:19 pm
Markle looks as hard as nails, she looks what she is - a z-lister who has been around the block too many times

This is why I don't like her for Harry.  I can see him with someone softer and gentler looking.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 03, 2016, 09:01:34 pm
I know.

Her she's got a hard as nails face and those predatory eyes of hers always on the make. Just doesn't look right with Harry in side by side pictures. They don't compliment each other.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 03, 2016, 10:33:59 pm
so today she has a new IG post - her cute dog in a sweater with the UK flag on it - LOL - so the pap stroll to the supermarket and now a doggie sweater with a UK (or is it English?) flag on it - oh she needs the spotlight!  Or needs to keep the interest in her up.

She has avoided IG posts since the initial spooning bananas et.al. that suggest she and Harry are together - but now on the last day of Harry's tour - she is posting Harry hints again. 

I think Harry is onboard with all her shenanigans - that is the quid pro quo - she gets pr - he gets people's interest in him boostered by a GF (any GF would do) as Palmer said.

I do not think she looks sad in the pic - that is her impression of a "trying to look normal  I do not know there are paparazzi hanging around" look.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 03, 2016, 11:03:52 pm
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I think Harry is onboard with all her shenanigans

Agreed Harry's on board and he knows what's going on 100% he just don't care and they both find it funny they in luv when she posted the banana pic that made ppl lose it harry probaly was right in bed with her she showed him thought it was cute posted. ,and it's working people getting all riled over pics. just like how just posted the union jack dog sweater she probably give harry a heads up that she's doing it ,and he said do it watch them lose it . Harry is not some poor innocent baby who is new to this world he knows what exactly whats going on he just don't care.For me to think other wise that he's blind to it my grandma, dad and the lord will have to come to me and say he's blind.

as for them being over nope this might go for two years. we will have 31 thread of  :laundry:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 03, 2016, 11:24:09 pm
^ yes Fly - he ain't blind.

Someone on another site suggested this and frankly it explains a lot - that his whole pattern of public GF's -  follows the same MO - rumors printed in the tabs, secret visits to friends houses and private clubs, etc  the GF's are now all over the place promoting themselves.  That model he was linked to after Chels - she was a unknown lingerie model but with the exposure she got from being linked to Harry she got big time modelling shoots and years later she still can get an article in the DM is an example as is of course Cress.  It is pay for play - he plays - they get pr exposure in return everyone is happy.  He does it over and over again - it is prostitution except instead of cash the currency is increased numbers of IG followers and a higher profile to help the career. 

That explains why he does not seem to care about all the fame wh$%ing - it is part of the deal.  Plus as Palmer says it makes him more interesting, does not seem in the past to have hurt his rep and gets him a bit more coverage cause the royal reporters love the GF stories. 

Meaghan though is a bit more than perhaps he bargained for - this is hurting his rep somewhat.  And it also explains the stupid KP letter - she expected positive pr spin from the revelation of the affair and instead she got negative stuff and freaked.  Lawyered up, KP panics because besides the racism and misogyny accusations they surely cannot come out and admit that pr is her payoff for a couple nights of Harry nookie.

Harry is fine with this - nice pick up routine.  Cynical though.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 04, 2016, 12:13:41 am
^ and ^^You're both probably completely correct in the overall assessment of this scenario and a repeated one at that which is why i said I felt played in the whole thing.  Not that anybody owes me any explanation of how they conduct themselves; it's not that.  It's just a gut-feeling that she's using it for this reason, he's using it for that reason and are laughing at everybody.  That, for me, just isn't cool nor worth my attention.

I've never added up his past relationships nor paid much attention before but now that you both have brought it up, it makes perfect sense.  I do agree, though, that this time it's different.  This time it garnered negative vibes and a judgement of the people and a pretty high-handed treatment of everybody by Harry either via MM or not.  If you're going to be in the public eye, suck it up, in other words.  Don't throw threats of lawyers and all of this noise around if you expect good will because you're not going to get it.

So, good luck to them, I am sure this will continue ad nauseum and many threads await but, as for me, I'm going back to wake me up when they're engaged.  This is just too high school for words. 



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2016, 12:19:57 am
^ ^ I do not believe Harry conducts his relationships in the cynical way you suggest, LadyCate, and because a poster on another forum suggested it does not make it the truth. The romance with Flee Brudenell-Bruce (she wasn't unknown) lasted about five hot minutes. His heart wasn't involved, she complained about his flirting with other girls at a music festival within a couple of weeks of them beginning dating, a strange way for Harry to act if he was just using her for sex.

I think Harry would be able to get girls to date him without that element coming into it, lol!  The relationship with Cressida was complicated by her lingering feelings for Harry Wentworth Stanley. And what of Chelsy, who was entangled with Harry for years? Was he also using her for easy sex and she him for fame?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 04, 2016, 12:27:19 am
no I don't think Harry used Chelsy that way - she was after all his teenage crush and first real GF - but Chelsy sure has no problems - nor does Harry - with her using him now to hawk her jewellry line.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 04, 2016, 01:03:11 am
^ and ^^You're both probably completely correct in the overall assessment of this scenario and a repeated one at that which is why i said I felt played in the whole thing.  Not that anybody owes me any explanation of how they conduct themselves; it's not that.  It's just a gut-feeling that she's using it for this reason, he's using it for that reason and are laughing at everybody.  That, for me, just isn't cool nor worth my attention.

I've never added up his past relationships nor paid much attention before but now that you both have brought it up, it makes perfect sense.  I do agree, though, that this time it's different.  This time it garnered negative vibes and a judgement of the people and a pretty high-handed treatment of everybody by Harry either via MM or not.  If you're going to be in the public eye, suck it up, in other words.  Don't throw threats of lawyers and all of this noise around if you expect good will because you're not going to get it.

So, good luck to them, I am sure this will continue ad nauseum and many threads await but, as for me, I'm going back to wake me up when they're engaged.  This is just too high school for words. 



I've gone back and forth with thinking he doesn't care about it. I won't ever go back to thinking it's just harry being a gullible person. Because it's the only thing that makes the most sense. Yeah he's gullible and gullible people often make bad decisions and i'm  sorry to say but Harry is one of them.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 01:39:38 am
If that's the case then KP is in on it too. It's way too cynical to believe Harry's like that. He's a target for fame hungry women that he seems to party with and get introduced to. He's interesting to the royal reporters when he's dating because that'll give them something to talk about besides his public engagements. Having girlfriends constantly interfering with his tours or public duties doesn't make him look good. I don't believe he's some naive dummy, but I do believe that he expects to not have what's improtant to him disrupted with dumb pr games. If he wanted to give the women good pr in exchange for good press for himself, he'd be seen in public with them on an actual date and treat them like girlfriends. He doesn't need a girlfriend to get press as he received plenty during the the past IG.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 04, 2016, 04:14:14 am
I think Harry likes playing with fire and getting into trouble and this is his way of doing it. Messing with bad news women and after a little while, leaving the courtiers to clean up his messes. He's loving every minute of it. Pick them up, date them, string them along, and then ditch them. I am certain that he's at a point where he just can't stop himself. He'll do the same after marriage, only with heightened fun since he'll be married and ti'll be oh so forbidden.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 04, 2016, 04:27:54 am
He cannot control himself before marriage, so his odds of being faithful to his wife if/when he gets married are close to zero.  bignono


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 04:31:49 am
After Pippa's tips, now it's Meghan's mantras! Harry's girlfriend uses her blog to offer 'life-affirming' slogans on everything from food waste to positivity... and they're JUST as cringingly obvious as Ms Middleton's

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3997720/After-Pippa-s-tips-s-Meghan-s-mantras-Harry-s-girlfriend-uses-blog-offer-life-affirming-slogans-food-waste-positivity-JUST-cringingly-obvious-Ms-Middleton-s.html#ixzz4Rq8wWzi1
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Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 04, 2016, 04:45:15 am
Harry may just see this as helping a friend out- he likes Meaghan - so he can help her out by allowing her to have this pr.  He liked CRessie - so he helps her out by allowing her to use him for pr.  Maybe that is how he sees it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 04:54:03 am
That might be the case, but he's dropped Mollie King, the singer from the Saturday's pop group for doing the same thing. It's a bit hypercritical, imo. Cressida and Mehgan have played media games that have disrupted his public duties. The mistake he seems to keep making is to go out with women who requires pr. Now he's supposed to be working as the queen's representative, he has no choice but to clean up his act as he has to present a more serious face to the woeld that shouldn't include girlfriends who manipulate and courts the press.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 04, 2016, 05:02:23 am
^^I think Harry has feelings  for Cressida and now Meghan they in a realinship he sees what's going on he knows what's going on  just that it really doesn't bother him that much when you in like luv  you see nothing wrong and just don't care .people on the outside looking in might be lil iffy with girl xyz but Harry's seeing something he likes in them so he's sticking with it .


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 04, 2016, 05:15:29 am
^^ well - eventually the tabloids turn on those they promote - so I guess said article was to be expected and frankly in this case - well deserved.  Her stuff is shallow and trite.

But I do have some sympathy - being compared to Pippa!  Not a good day.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 05:29:38 am
^They've been doing that for a while now.
^^why would he and his staff tense up at the mention of her name and be ok with her pr games interfering with the tour?
She seems to be spewing new age, Mother Earth Hollywood psycho babble. She's being exposed for being fake and a hypocrite.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 04, 2016, 05:56:04 am
He cannot control himself before marriage, so his odds of being faithful to his wife if/when he gets married are close to zero.

His chances of someone decent willing to have him are next to zero and frankly as he gets more enmeshed and screws around more, the less a woman is willing to put up with his baggage and drama and BS. It's as if he's getting as much excitement as he can in before he marries, but thing is, women won't want to spend the rest of their life with a man who has enough baggage to load an airport and the chances increase that he's going to work his issues in that area out on the woman he marries. We know this happens. He's not doing such grand work that a woman should have to give it all up and basically get him to grow up.

I think he's finished in regards to being marriage material for someone decent, someone the Windsors oh so loftily view as 'good enough' for their worthless heirs.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Sophie on December 04, 2016, 07:14:18 am
This latest blog post about turkey leftovers has put me over the top.  She is either clueless, which I doubt, or she thinks the public is stupid.  Either way, it isn't worth my time as it is juvenile and narcissistic.  I am so disappointed in Harry. :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 04, 2016, 08:17:04 am
She's an American version of Pippa what do you expect? She's very much Captain Obvious! It's not like she's got any new startling relevations on things of her own. She only is where she is because of the men she married and dated. An actress on a fairly known show because of ex hubby and The Tig writer because of her being a so called "foodie" and ex being a chef. Without access to him she barely knows what she's going on about and just rehashes stuff one could find on Pinterest. Only reason we even bother with her nonsense is cause her hooking up with Harry did like Kanye's new song and made that b*tch famous on a world stage. There's honestly not a whole lot to her, just pr and past relationships that got her were she is today. :cookie: She's like Taylor Swifty, only famous cause she's had a bunch of exes and making moves on a new guy.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 04, 2016, 08:18:54 am
She's way too old and experienced in life to be this stupid. Harry is too old and experienced to be making the same mistake time and time again.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 04, 2016, 01:48:04 pm
This latest blog post about turkey leftovers has put me over the top.  She is either clueless, which I doubt, or she thinks the public is stupid.  Either way, it isn't worth my time as it is juvenile and narcissistic.  I am so disappointed in Harry. :thumbsdown:

Disappointment is a very common when it comes to harry's love life.

^^I think Harry has feelings  for Cressida and now Meghan they in a realinship he sees what's going on he knows what's going on  just that it really doesn't bother him that much when you in like luv  you see nothing wrong and just don't care .people on the outside looking in might be lil iffy with girl xyz but Harry's seeing something he likes in them so he's sticking with it .

He likes those type of women or doesn't mind that they get publicity for who he is, just as long as it works in their favor.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 02:22:25 pm
None of his girlfriends have given him good press. He hasn't seemed to move past Club H days where he goes with easy women he doesn't have to work to get. His girlfriends are a result of his chaotic lifestyle. I think now that he's working for the queen, he's going to have to answer to older, more experienced courtiers who'll not have their work for the queen underminded by his bs.  bignono  He's not choice now but to get his personal house in order with some structure and caring about who he dates from now on.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: michelle0187 on December 04, 2016, 02:56:29 pm
^ yes it's true that he will have to make some changes as he gets older. If anyone really expects him in the future to stop dating his usual type asap and "work" on his tendencies to be complacent, good luck to them (not speaking to anyone here specifically). The main problem isn'this actions but his fans thinking he takes the charm and humble attitude in his public life , back home. Now he's far more predictable than he's ever been in his adult life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: kolkomilko on December 04, 2016, 05:01:31 pm
^^^^ Well said!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 05:17:01 pm
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He might be described as the world’s most eligible bachelor, with women falling at his feet, but in reality Harry has largely favoured long-term relationships over casual flings.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/739653/Prince-Harry-royal-trip-Rihanna-Caribbean-Meghan-Markle

This is article's from the reporter that leaked the so called relationship. It still feels like they're walking on eggshells because of her and trying to make things seem serious than it is because of her crying racism.  :o
So now lets see if he'll get himself together and clean up his private life. This relationship will be the death keel to him as he'll have to be a jet setter to see her and he'll have to waste money and resources to protect her when she's in London; from what I've no clue. Lets see if if he has the sense to knuckle down and work with the queen and be serious about what his position is about or he blows it on her or another unstable entertainer.





Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 04, 2016, 08:38:42 pm
She's like Taylor Swifty, only famous cause she's had a bunch of exes and making moves on a new guy.

She is not like Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is talented. She has awards, made millions on her own. She didn't have to date a producer and marry him in order to book a major role. She didn't sleep her way to the top. She's serial dater but clearly - that's problem with the men she picks, not a gold digging move.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 04, 2016, 08:47:22 pm
Taylor Swift became famous and made millions by writing and singing songs she makes from her high-profile exes, each one more famous than the other by the way, and self-created drama not to mention her little clique/squad of famous girls who she dumps when they suddenly stop being very popular and stop being useful to her. Believe me she's just as shady as Meghan, they both have the same look in their eyes. Her talent isn't all that amazing to be honest I've heard better but whatever. Debate for another thread not that I really care all that much about Swifty. Take away the high-orofile boyfriend songs and Swifty's just another blond singer in the bunch.

Back on topic, wonder how long it'll take us before we get an article or tidbit of info on state of relationship. I knew he found what was said in poor taste, he's a big emotional bleeder, his face and body language dont lie. He was NOT happy about those comments bringing up Meghan and whatever happens there stays there.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 04, 2016, 10:06:18 pm
^ yes it's true that he will have to make some changes as he gets older. If anyone really expects him in the future to stop dating his usual type asap and "work" on his tendencies to be complacent, good luck to them (not speaking to anyone here specifically). The main problem isn'this actions but his fans thinking he takes the charm and humble attitude in his public life , back home. Now he's far more predictable than he's ever been in his adult life.

yes he has himself said he is two people - private Harry public Harry (he used to also add Army Harry) so he was telling us.  I am glad to hear he may be taking on more of the Queen's diplomatic stuff.  Would like to hear he has some sort of job - not just these occasional engagements and royal visits - more focus.

He's coming home now - so he'll do his ICAP dinner then all Christmas festivities - do the Sentebale visit and like the rest of the RF disappear for January and February.  Perhaps a ski trip will show up.  So back to "private" party Harry for that time.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 10:18:26 pm
Private Harry until his dumb decisions effect his public. He definitely needs a regular job to keep him focused and around non-hangers on. He also has to realize that the private Harry and the public Harry affect each other;  they can't be seperated and compartmentalize. He thinks he's just regular Harry hanging out at a party chilling with his mates, but the women know he's prince Harry and go after him for it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 04, 2016, 10:23:10 pm
Women were after him even when he worked planning military events at the office, remember the articles. Not surprised he chose to leave it. I'd get fed up with all those women popping by "being friendly" while I'm trying to work, it'd be bloody embarrassing and irritating. Nothing worse than stopping a Virgo mid thought process while we're working on something. It's cute for about 5 seconds and then you better run for some hills double quick.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 04, 2016, 10:27:30 pm
it appears MM has fired her pr firm and gotten a new one.  She is no longer listed as a K&C client.  So maybe she recognizes this pr blitz has not been a good idea?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 04, 2016, 10:29:44 pm
Or they've just marked her as a "private" client, remains to be seen. Too late though, damage done. They went at it broadside and blew a massive hole on that royal romance ship, old girl is sinking. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/shame.gif)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 04, 2016, 10:34:30 pm
Better her than Harry and the royal family.  :cookie:
She much be running scared about the movie being re-released tomorrow.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on December 05, 2016, 12:54:42 am
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Richard Palmer ‏@RoyalReporter 
Richard Palmer retweetou Nick Sutton
Meghan Markle makes the front of tomorrow's Daily Express
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/805534728489238529


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 01:00:18 am
Are those flowers from Harry? Meghan Markle struggles to hide her smile while carrying a fresh bouquet - after sending a VERY British 'puppy love' tweet while her prince finally finishes his tour
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Sophie, London, about a minute ago
I'm no fan of Meghan but to be fair that coat the dog is wearing she's had for a while ... so I don't think it was sending out a sign about Harry. Also she often buys flowers for herself as she's spoke about it on Instagram in the past.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3999880/Meghan-Markle-struggles-hide-smile-carrying-fresh-bouquet-sending-British-puppy-love-tweet-prince-finally-finishes-tour.html#ixzz4Rv9OtH1e
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This is the top article on the DM site. She's coming from the florist.  :bored:  She's not going to lay low at all.  :bat:

I guess they're telling harry now the tour's over, he has unfinished business.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 05, 2016, 01:03:29 am
Women were after him even when he worked planning military events at the office, remember the articles. Not surprised he chose to leave it. I'd get fed up with all those women popping by "being friendly" while I'm trying to work, it'd be bloody embarrassing and irritating. Nothing worse than stopping a Virgo mid thought process while we're working on something. It's cute for about 5 seconds and then you better run for some hills double quick.

Then he should institute a code of conduct and have a manager make sure that it's adhered to. Or he should work in the palace offices and spend his time at various places and make a point of it to focus on what he's doing. Or shut the door and lock it while he's working. He should be used to people throwing themselves at him and he could in fact be blunt about it.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 01:07:39 am
^indeed. I think now he should be under the queen office and should be working with her staff to know where he can fill in for her and what he has to do.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: danifaul on December 05, 2016, 01:19:20 am
I think they're together  :flower: I do not know if they're getting married.

But Harry is not going to break up (dating) early  :wopedo: not after using  KP / 'real seal'

He is now trapped in this situation, own words  and actions.

Now if he has repented, :sigh:  time is a friend ..... let history die slowly / naturally and a lot of charity work.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 01:43:53 am
i think that i've spent way too much time wasted on this woman. She's too narcissistic and will contunue to play media games like this. After all of the press attention, she doesn't seem to have any offers to work on, so she's staring in her own drama of being paped.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 02:13:31 am
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Health Fletcher, Los Angeles, United States, about 12 minutes ago
I work in the photo industry and I can tell theses are 100% staged. No byline on the photos and she looks "perfect" in every shot. That doesn't happen unless staged. Pathetic.

Harriet, Toronto, Canada, about 10 minutes ago
Staged to the point her hand bag matches Harry's bracelets, pathetic.

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Lancashire Lass, preston, United Kingdom, about 17 minutes ago
I think a lot people were willing to give her a chance, because they want to see Prince Harry settled and happy. However, she's proving to be very disingenuous, not a good sign!

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Boop-Beep-Boop 1ooo, Santa Barbara, United States, about 29 minutes ago
how naive they both are. It will end in tears

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Yorkie1, Hull, United Kingdom, about 16 minutes ago
Hi Meghan, you are an actress, but not a very good one. I've never attempted to break anyone down. I can speak my mind like everyone lese here. Not everyone is going to believe the lies that you and your pr spew Meghan. You don't have two degrees, you double majored, two different things. You didn't work at an embassy, you interned at one. You aren't a humanitarian, you just lend your name to causes but have never actually DONE anything to change the world. That fake soap commercial you made up never happened. It was just a story you made up to make you look like a super do gooder even at 11. We see through you and that's why you're on here defending yourself after your pap walk to prove something that nobody knows. You're 35, grow up.

Is this someone from this forum? :-

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Xyz123, Somewhere, United States, about 39 minutes ago
I am so over her attention seeking. Don't let her fool you. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She posted that pic to stir up some more media attention for herself. I feel bad for Harry because she is totally milking their relationship for publicity. The spooning bananas, the friendship bracelets, tea time, view from Kensington Palace, the dog in a Union Jack sweater. She has this passive aggressiveness to her. She posts enough to garner attention but does it in a way that she can feign innocence to Harry and his family. I t would almost be better if she just acknowledged relationship and posted pics of them together. She strikes me as being very devious and deceptive. If she really loved him she would STAY OFF social media and try to lay low. I hope Harry has his eyes open with this one.

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ChefsSpecial, Hot Kitchen, United States, about 3 minutes ago
Have you read her quips? And you call THAT writing? 10 years olds have more common sense, better vocabularies and knowledge that Meghan. Her father must have donated money to get her into Northwestern University.

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Guardían Reader, Islington, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
I bet she's bought the flowers herself to court media attention. She's always trying to manipulate the press to her advantage and I've always strongly disliked her. Harry should break up with her and be with someone more appropriate.

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Harriet, Toronto, Canada, about an hour ago
There aren't paps lurking about in Toronto, especially where she lives, unless it's for the film fest. She would have had to organize this pap walk on her own. Strange woman.

Harriet, Toronto, Canada, about an hour ago
She's either calling them or the Toronto Sun is taking the photos and passing them on to the DM. She probably has the Sun on speed dial, it's a set up, full stop. It's pretty obvious the way she is making sure Harry's bracelets are in the shot. Just like the Middletons did with Tanna, first William, now it is Harry being played. Hopefully, Harry snaps out of it before it's too late.

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Yasmeen Doud, dubrovnik, Croatia, about an hour ago
I'm almost tempted to send a healthy check to the offices of Daily Mail, to have them remove any and all stories pertaining to this attention seeker.

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Louisa, London, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
She bought them herself to do some flower-arranging, and she's laughing because she knows there'll be an article in the news about the flowers and suggestions that Harry sent them to her. She's playing the media and it seems to be working. Glum Markle two days ago, cunning, laughing Markle today. I see the DM have cropped the pictures to cut the photo credits. Are these picture courtesy of Splash News too?

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Leelulumpkin, Little Warsaw, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
Cannot see her fit into "The Firm" at all. She appears to be loving it way too much for their tastes, and that of many Brits, including me!

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mandyjeancole, London, United Kingdom, about an hour ago
PLEASE PLEASE..Dont let it be her !! mjc

Special Sparkle certainly is getting a lot of lovin' from the public. Comments like this just go on and on... :tehe: Keep it up Meg you're doing great! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 05, 2016, 02:35:15 am
Nothing wrong with liking attention, it's part of the position as consort to Harry.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2016, 03:57:58 am
^If you're in high school, chasing the capt of the football team and you're on the Yearbook staff, then yup, strut those Nordy's Jr. Dept ripped jeans.  As a 35 year old adult?  Not so much.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/12/04/23/3B07D60E00000578-0-image-m-18_1480893412896.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/12/04/23/3B07D60E00000578-0-image-m-18_1480893412896.jpg)

So, you wanna go "high school"?  Let's go there.  She looks fat. *pops gum*


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: leogirl on December 05, 2016, 06:12:33 am
I am tired of this broad already.  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 05, 2016, 06:13:06 am
various and assorted sites are alive with this info - judge for yourself if you find it credible.  Apparently there have been two or three people who work for pr firms posting on tumblr blogs and on DM claiming inside info.  You have seen some of their posts including the one stating that she had given a story to US weekly re: a Christmas trip with Harry to Barbados- which we now know US weekly has a story coming out about exactly that.  So she was correct with her info.

I am not going to reprint all the blogs and posts but here is a telling of the real gem - it seems so is claimed that Meaghan had an expectation she should be invited to Sandringham for holidays and Harry hit the roof while talking to her about this on his phone (and in Grenada). This was allegedly overheard by someone who mistakenly took the convo as Meg was meeting Harry in Barbados.  This someone tipped a journo who called another journo in Barbados to give them a heads up.  This journo was aware of the upcoming US Weekly story that MM and Harry would be vacationing in Barbados and so called the Palace to get verification of the story.  Palace hits the roof -  even the impression that his GF would be with him on a taxpayer funded tour representing the Queen was a major no no.  So Palace contacts Harry tells him to clean this up.  He calls sweetie - goes ballistic - big fight - he tells her to call the paps or get a friend to take her pic in Toronto so as to make it clear she is not with him - and we get two days in a row of Sweetie walking the Toronto streets for pap pics.

Now because this person has been right about the US Weekly article and because this person revealed who their source for these stories is - there is some credibility - some are believing this.  I have no idea if this is true or not - it fits in with some things and it also may explain the rumor that was circulating a few days ago that she was with him.

But geez - if this is even close to true - she is nuts - he is nuts and someone lock him in the tower til he comes to his senses.  


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2016, 07:06:25 am
high school drama all over again  8)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 05, 2016, 07:08:56 am
There have been an awful ot of people, journalists and otherwise, who have been using their imaginations and repeating stuff on the internet that is sometimes supposedly at fourth or fifth hand regarding the Harry and MM story ever since it broke. If journalists and others have been so au fait with what has been going on with Harry and Meghan and what they say to each other, you would think that the story of their romance would have broken in July at least. I remain of the view, and this is only my opinion of course, that 99% of stories circulating on the Internet about anyone well known are to be taken with an industrial sized bag of salt unless independently verified by at least two other sources.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 05, 2016, 07:25:04 am
 https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/805534728489238529http://

she is on the cover of The Express - apparently she took another pap stroll in Toronto - let us know she is there.  Coincidence?  No pics of her at all except on her twitter or IG ( and the one time at work) and now two days in a row she goes strolling through Toronto and gets photgraphed - a city not exactly known for a large celeb population or paparazzi

The story is front page and is another "review" of her lifestyle blog - apparently not friendly entitled "Eat nuts to make you live longer"

so second tabloid now is highlighting her silly blog - I think the royal reporters know something


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 05, 2016, 09:07:44 am
Journalists from the Mirror were also travelling with Harry on his Caribbean tour. Along with praise for his diplomatic skills with locals on the trip, in this article aides are being quoted as saying that Harry is the happiest he has ever been and the headline is saying that he will soon be in MM's arms.

Apparently the Mirror people (in spite of all the journalists travelling together in close quarters) didn't get the memo about Harry being so unprofessional as to blast his girlfriend on the phone in other people's hearing and having to inform her not to join him on the ship or in Barbados. This is not Harry's first tour and this scenario is so far beyond how he behaves on a tour representing his grandmother, (or before one, in informing loved ones of the procedure for contacting him) that I am absolutely flabbergasted that the Internet story has had one toe to stand on, let alone any legs!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-heads-back-uk-9392648


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 05, 2016, 09:31:56 am
logic - if one tabloid cannot be trusted - than neither can the other

it is all fake - pr


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 10:07:47 am
@cate1949 Certainly makes sense of her glum face during grocery shopping, she did look like she'd just been in a fight, still looked a bit teary.

As for whatever article about Harry's diplomatic skills and praising him it can also be taken as a cover for certain things that wben on. It even described him as being thouroughly involved with the tour planning on every level and so on, something that I spoke about in another post amongst other things, so someone is reading the forum again and specifically answered a remark that I brought up abput tour planning and who's in charge and lo and behold we have Harry focusing on the ecological stuff as well. Coincidence, I think not.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2016, 11:25:42 am
maybe that's why the royals don't work. they are too busy reading about themselves all day long and no time is left for anything else, except answering to our objections in the media .. when it suits them.



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 12:37:01 pm
I wonder if this has to do with them saying that he can't contact people outside whilst he was on the boat. He can't be this dad as to deal with someone clearly off her rocker. She knows and cares nothing about his position only that he brings lots of press and lives in a palace. Maybe that's another reason he asked RiRi on a date to take the test as well as state that her star power will help get the word out especially in America. I agree with comments about her trying to look like everything's ok when she was walking with the flowers. He'd be truly off his head if he has anything to do with her. She most definitely will get pregnant if she gets a chance.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2016, 01:39:34 pm
What Prince Harry's girlfriend Meghan Markle REALLY eats to stay in shape - and it includes plenty of pasta and re

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IDK about that DM user comment about the phone blow up and it might be over it could be a person just putting together a story well enough for people to believe cause they know people don't like her so right anything will get it eat up who knows and it goes on and on its all gossip anyway



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 02:09:37 pm
I don't think HE read it, but I do think and we know they've people reading stuff about them all over the place including this forum. I just find it suspect that Harry's integral role in his tour planning was highlighted, why did they do that now when they've never done so before.

And if they did read my comment then good, they can get their sh*t in gear and start helping him plan for doing engagements better. Get him some new suits that are better tailored to his body and less baggy-looking, Charles always looks immaculate and Harry looks rumpled, and most of all appropiate for the weather he'll be working in so he isn't sweating like a big over a spit in the heat and humidity, not to mention two words "boxer briefs" quit it with the boxers for godsake too revealing! He is at age were he should have a diverse work wardrobe that can see him through any weather and any situation not make him look like he's got a closetful of the same suits from 10 years ago.

I'm all for having something with fun with sports and children and local charities and so on but in an ever expanding world/society with increasing technology going on why isn't there more focus on such things and how they are being used to help those most in need more than just whatever centres I'm talking about filtering straws that allow you to drink from dirty water, technology that can help filter and clean said dirty water, stoves that cook using solar panels, etc. Using hemp as a viable reneable resource because it grows pretty much anywhere and can be used for a diverse amount of things not just weaving into clothes or baskets to help struggling remote places get a foothold on having dependable income coming in that will help the community flourish.

Don't get me wrong I love seeing Harry with kids, doing sports and so on in such trips, but realisticly he's a 32 year old man doing engagements that are the modern day version of things he was doing 10 years ago with a few new things thrown in, but there's been very little expansion and diversity on his repertoire. I shouldn't have to be commenting on his wardrobe issues, that should already be resolved and dealt with ages ago, I shouldn't have to be commenting on his lack of diversity in his engagement and so on, all of this should've been seen to and dealt with.

What I'm annoyed about is that they've changed the people that he works with to those that are similar in age but seem to not have the neccesary life experience or ability to guide him as did Dyer or Pinkerton. Instead we get stories of Harry not knowing what to do with himself on his downtime now that he's not in the army and being rudderless, but end up with commenting on his love life to and unsuitable actress.

The real problem here is that Harry hasn't accepted the fact that he's royalty and royalty isnt normal, will never be normal and he should just accept that. There is only what is normal to royalty. So long as he's dealing with that discrepancy his life will be a mess. He needs to wake up and realize this isn't 2010 when he was still 25 and could get away with a slew of things. He's 32, wasting his time dating an attention loving actress who's obviously not the right fit for the job. That isn't the issue though, what is the issue here is that he's hanging around with those sorts of people because despite him making it more private he's still out partying.

The party is over Harry, last call. You need to wake up and realize you are 32 years old man and don't have a steady job besides part timing for your granny but not wanting to take a full-time position in the family business because you're not sure you wanna take on that responsibility. You can't have it both ways, you're either all in or your all out, anything else is a mess. You are not normal and never will be, GET OVER IT! You are hoping for a fantasy that you will never attain, stop chasing the mirage.

If you're such a deep thinker than we give you credit for and I'm sure you are, then why aren't you thinking of what it is that causes you to act so irrationally and jump in without thinking at 32 flipping years old? Why should we care wether your girlfriend makes you interesting are not, you should hold our interest yourself but instead you're still stuck dealing with and infiriority complex to William from 20 years ago that you should've dealt with a long time ago, you're still dealing with mummy issues from 20 years ago you should've dealt with properly a long time ago too. Nothing will ever make the pain go away but I don't think that dwelling on it is going to make it any better. Anger only hurts you more than it hurts anyone else, it affects your life on every level and will continue to erode at your own self love, self worth, self respect until you are utterly mangled by it and you will never be the person you once were. I have drunk from that cup and it is poison and takes a long time to detox off of.

If you are still looking for love and happier than you've been in a long time in what is obviously an unhealthy, unsuitable, and futureless relationship take that as a sign not really having gotten to the meat of your issues. We attract people during different stages of our lives that directly reflect where we are during those stages.

Unless you love yourself unconditionally, unless you deal with your repressed anger issues (as so readily visible in that letter) you will forever look for love but not find it. Because LOVE comes from within and it's only after we love ourselves (in a non-egotistical and narcissistic way) only until after we've dealt with our baggage and wittled it down to just a carry on that we can truly begin to find happiness in relationships until then you're going to be stuck looking for something in someone else because you can't seem to give it to yourself and that's devastating to watch. You are in a relationship with a shallow attention seeking woman that lies about what she does and her relationships, who uses relationships to get what she wants and then dumps them. In many ways she is the living breathing example of all that you are doing and dealing with and why it doesn't suit you and shouldn't even be. This woman should in no way represent you and all that you stand for.

You've lost sight of the person that your mother hoped you would grow up to be, a decent, honorable, respectable, working membember of society let alone a royal, who does not treat women in the same way he would treat his mother. I very much doubt your mother taught you to treat women as disposable booty calls you can jump from one to the next and if they end up using you that's ok cause you're just using them for sex as well and whatever other perks there may be. That's disgusting. That's beneath you as a gentleman, and officer and a Prince. This whole playboy prince stuff has got to stop, a playboy prince is nothing more than a man wh*re at a royal level who uses and allows women to use him for sex and perks from the job.

You would preffer to be in long term relationships or so the article states but without actually dealing with your issues and getting those out of the way and truly and deeply taking some time to yourself to think about what it is you want your life to be, not just person you want to be with, you are not going to find that person. Because that person is stable, settled into who they are, want to be and want of of life and relationships with minimal baggage to carry if any and are looking for someone who is mature, respectful, dependable and will treat them as their equal partner in life. None of which you are currently representing, you are Meghan Markle in male form. If you want something better, then be better so you can attract that person or otherwise you are never going to find them because you cannot attract that which you are not. All the qualities that you want this other person to have you must first have yourself. Basic Law of Attraction, we attract what mirrors us in life good and bad, so careful with what you are attracting to you irrigardless of the colour of their skin, culture or social status.

Jesus, I didn't realize how badly I needed a rant to let out all I was repressing. :o Sorry about massive post. :shy:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2016, 02:24:36 pm
^^Kinda funny that they come out with this how does she stay in such great shape article barely 12 hours after I said she looks fat!  Maybe they do read us here.  Hope so.  But, then again, get a life.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 02:39:01 pm
No kidding. :cookie: It's obvious too because it's almost directly answering questions and statements we've made on here.

Also hot water with lemon is terrible for you, the acid in the lemon would wear away at your tooth enamel. Better off with a cup of water with a dash of apple sider vinegar, couple spoonfuls manuka honey depending on how sweet you want it and a springle of cinnamon. Much better way of cleansing the body of toxins than hot water and lemon. Roasting zucchini till it's mush and looses all nutritional value is pointless, better eating grilled or smoked, same with most veggies aside from raw in salads and such.

There's a gadjet out now that lets you turn a raw zucchini into spaghetti, better than the starch overload with the non organic rubbish


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2016, 04:18:11 pm
If the glass slipper doesn't fit, you can't cut your toes to try and make people believe that it fits. Meghan's copy writing skills are mediocre at best, just like her life lessons. Her charitable deeds are photo ops with poor children (just cruising around the world for the publicity) and statement bags (cause that's what starving children around the world need for dinner tonight: a picture of a bag with someone else's groceries). Her propensity to cry victim when she's not is yet another evidence that she tries to cheat her way to the glass slipper. But it doesn't fit. And if it doesn't fit - it doesn't fit. 8)



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 04:21:48 pm
^^I forgot to add steamed of best ways to eat veggies.

^Basically, she tries to hard to fit the bill when she can't even pass the bar. Pun fully intended.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 04:54:34 pm
Great post Mandosiel.  :thumbsup:
Well this relationship is making Harry look like a complete fraud as he's attached to a woman that courts the press and has no problem of going after him with lawyers to get what she wants. She's too calculating and I'd even say dangerous as she seems not to care one bit about her actions and how it'll effect Harry and the royals. He should've been heavily advised by the security services not to have any contact with her. 3 articles in the DM about this woman and at a glance, the comments are about people losing respect for him by his relationship with her. The only way for her to have the press lose interest with her and to dispel Harry being in a relationship with her is to show Harry busy in London with his private time also accounted for. I think it's beyond Harry's call about how to deal with her. The tour's over and now the kid gloves can come off and deal with her properly. She's going to have to back off because if KP issues anything else such as "Harry called time on the relationship" she'll use that to play victim and anti up her pr crap.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 05:38:49 pm
Thanks. :flower:

Her cooking posts are about as useful at Pipster's book Celebrate. As in pointless and ridiculous. Agave nectar as a sweetener, really? How about Manuka or Kiawe Honey both of which are antimicrobial and loaded with lots of nutritional health enhancing enzymes the body could use to stay healthy and well nutritioned. A bit expensive but worth it. Agave nectar is the healthier version of corn syrup basically.

How about adding chia seeds, hemp hearts or heck even quinoa to her green smoothies. Nope. Zucchini pasta or zucchini spaghetti, steamed not boiled, etc. Give me a break, foodie my foot, wanna be hipster food critic more like. If she was a foodie she would've done some actual nutrional research into what she's eating and how to balance it out where she's not getting it.

I'm sure royal babies would grow nice and strong from her guzzling down the vino. Chug it like it's going out of style Meggie. :sigh:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2016, 06:09:42 pm
Look away now Harry! Prince's girlfriend Meghan Markle locks lips with another man in a scene from her latest movie The Dater's Handbook
Prince Harry may be left feeling a little pang of jealousy when watching his girlfriend Meghan Markle's latest flick.
The American actress is pictured locking lips with a handsome actor in new images from her new TV movie The Dater's Handbook.
Despite the fact that she is dating one of Britain's most sought after men the 35-year-old plays a young woman unlucky in love.


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Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 06:26:15 pm
Greater majority of comments are negative, at least found out Katie Nicholls says MM not going to be with them for Christmas. Think granny might be having a serious talk with him over holds as to where this is going.

Too overexposed in media people are already sick of her and about to be more so when Anti Social hits the screens. Oh Jesus it's going to get worse! :nervous:


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2016, 06:33:22 pm
^^Another re-release?  This is at least a year old and has already gone to Netflix.  In the US anyway.  Boy, they're/she's gonna wring out every buck they can on the back of this "relationship".  I don't blame them but it's pretty tiresome and obvious.  So-so movie.  Hallmark-y.   I couldn't make it through when I tried to watch it last year because it's a re-tread plot that I think Kate Hudson did much better in some other film that escapes me now.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 06:43:25 pm
Do you mean 'How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days' Yooper? With Matthew McConaugheeeeeyy as I like to call him. :flirt:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lose_a_Guy_in_10_Days (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lose_a_Guy_in_10_Days)


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 05, 2016, 07:50:43 pm
^Maybe. I think so.  I love that movie, btw; it's a fun chick flick.  I think it's because, for me, Hallmark movies all have pretty much the same plot so I just stopped because I was losing brain cells by the second.  Not that all Hallmark movies aren't fun but this one was a crashing bore and I thought it long before I even knew who the ever-interchangeable actresses are nor who MM was.  Just a harmless yawn of a thing, I suppose.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 08:02:26 pm
I prefer The Good Witch myself as far as type of Hallmark stuff I go for. I agree with you on the brain cell slaughter though.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 08:24:32 pm
Yooper, has she been blacklisted in Hollywood? She has nothing listed for future projects on IMDB. All of this exposure and no future projects.  ???  


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 08:31:32 pm
She's holding out for a royal project. Probably scuttled any future plans as far as anything else goes.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Ariel on December 05, 2016, 08:33:44 pm
I watch those "same plot" Christmas movies and I like them. Meghan's acting in the dater's handbook is not that good. sorry, it isn't.
^she has only 2 movies so far and she's 35.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 08:41:53 pm
Very short career CV for being 35 and an actress for so long. Would've expected at least a slew of commercial s or walk-on roles that sort of thing. But as you said, her acting is not that good.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 08:55:18 pm
She has a snowball in hell of getting to be Harry's girlfriend that'll get the queen and his family's approval not to mention the British people, so she might as well pack in this insane pr push.





Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 09:13:29 pm
Snowball is too big. I say chickpea-sized hail stone at least.

I fogot to mention. Somebody mentioned you windsor2 in the comments section of the latest comment in one of the replies to comments


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 09:25:36 pm
Really? Please post.  :BFF:



Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 09:50:27 pm
 :tehe: :BFF:

It's in reply to this post.
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Me.0, Norwich, United Kingdom, about 5 hours ago
S..X SCENES,ADULTERY,divorce,jumps from a man to another to advance herself,GOES WITH LAWYERS after the Royals(to release the statement or she'll brand them as ra..sts), the press(threatens to sue if they reveal her past),trying to impede people's freedom of speech,LIED about the BREAK INTO HER HOUSE (proved by Toronto paper,witnesses), possibly bribed her ex as to not reveal the REAL TIMELINE of her relationship with Harry (living with her boyfriend of 2 years in a civil union while she went after him), LIED IN HER SPEECH FOR THE UN(the soap commercial story never happened),MADE THE RELATIONSHIP KNOWN to the public through her PR team (contacting reporters,its unofficial but if confirmed we wish them luck) and social media, keeps LEAKING STORIES,posting pictures during Harry's tour to gain publicity,FAKE CHARITY WORK(a couple of days in Rwanda taking pictures with poor kids for a FASHION MAGAZINE),DISLIKED in Hwood, treats subordinates like DIRT, likes to play the melanin card.USER!

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adjo-vie, New Jersey, United States, about 4 hours ago
@ Me.0 (or is it Winsor2) <-- looky looky, it's FAKE "sources" having, obsessed with MM defamer, copy & paster of UNTRUTHS...oh so very JEA.LOUS of Meghan Markle...wish she could be MM but can't Me.0 the ha.ter pro.pa.gan.dist!


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 05, 2016, 10:08:54 pm
Thanks. I saw it after I read your post.  :tehe:  The flipping cheek. I don't even have a DM account.
He's looking rather pathetic being involved with this kind of sh*t. She's not going to go away and work is she? She's making herself more disliked. I think Harry owes the British people an apology for getting mixed up with her in the first place and involved with that idiotic statement. It's time to grow up my son and stop playing with immature things.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Mandosiel on December 05, 2016, 10:36:27 pm
Yup. Hard won lesson this.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 05, 2016, 11:05:04 pm
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle planning a pre-Christmas getaway
http://us.hellomagazine.com/royalty/12016120519273/prince-harry-meghan-markle-trip-together/


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 05, 2016, 11:13:54 pm
I don't know why everyone this so badly of Meg; Harry is clearly determined to destroy himself and throw his life away (like he threw his twenties away) and frankly Meg isn't at fault here. If it weren't Meg, it would be someone else and frankly I don't believe that Harry will find or attract better. That idiot clearly still views himself as a cheeky adolescent and won't grow up. His tour was a pointless joke and didn't do anything innovative.

Meg isn't some scarlet woman leading Harry astray and before she met Harry, she was under no obligation to lead a life of a nun.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: cate1949 on December 05, 2016, 11:20:11 pm
he'll marry her - she is a limpet - she has no other options - not like her career is going anywhere - she is 35 which in her business may as well be 75 - she gave up the BF - Suits will be cancelled eventually - she has no new jobs lined up - so all she has now to fulfill her ambitions is a silly blog and Harry.  She'll play the guilt card - Harry will feel obligated to her - no matter how bad he acts she is not going away.  he has been cornered.

Do not live your life carelessly.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: Rosella on December 05, 2016, 11:24:51 pm
I watch those "same plot" Christmas movies and I like them. Meghan's acting in the dater's handbook is not that good. sorry, it isn't.
^she has only 2 movies so far and she's 35.

MM has had parts in eleven films so far since 2005,  only small parts, but this is a profession where 95% of actors and actresses are unemployed at any one time. The films have been mostly romantic comedies -- Horrible Bosses, Remember Me, A lot like Love, Random Encounters, The Apostles, Good Behavior, The Boys and Girls Guide to Getting Down, Deceit, Dysfunctional Friends, Anti Social.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2016, 12:28:28 am
I don't see that he's cornered. However, I have to agree that he really blew it with his carelessness by getting involved in whatever situation this is. It matters not that the Hello article could be a lie from her side. What matters is that he's involved with a situation that makes him and the royal family a joke to the women that he should be courting at this time. This one will definitely get pregnant if he's indeed seeing her. ITA that her acting career is on the wane and Harry's her best bet for a future lived in material luxury. This is indeed high school sh*t thrown in with a Fatal Attraction vibe. The queen might've made a mistake in having him represent her because, although he does rise to the occasion and delivers when he's on public duties, he messes that up and becomes unreliable when he swans around with another valid, attention seeking fame wh*re who uses him for pr. Well, we've seen political dynasties fall by their secrets and lies so this shouldn't be a shock to see that the younger royals are doing the same to the monarchy. I think that Meghan's gotten a lot of flack as she's out and about clearly not giving a damn about anything but it should indeed be Harry for not getting himself together and stay clear of actresses and the like. It really doesn't matter if he has broken up with her or not. The damage is done. I think he's done because he's very unreliable and untrustworthy to get control of his private life.
I guess the corner is that he can't publicly dump her because she'll play the victim card and it'll be article after article of her wow is me crap and he can't be seen with her or be with her in private because that'll keep this sick situation going as well as her definitely getting pregnant. One way or the other though, dummy has to grow up. So the best way is to dump her and deal with whatever nonsense she dishes out. The alternative will have to see him step aside and live in the States with her.


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2016, 01:45:19 am
Harry's only cornered if he's made some kind of promise in writing or declaration of promise within earshot of another human being or she becomes pregnant...for now.  This is a woman who knows her limitations moving forward.  Her acting career, by all metrics available, is not on the upswing unless she manages to get herself a serious, and high leveraged, offer, i.e., a real movie or some other platform that will carry her beyond the level where she is now which isn't all that much nor is it enough to keep her comfortable for the rest of her life.

Her goals, per her own words, are to be in politics and she has stated that she eventually wants to be President of the United States.

So, there's that, which bears no resemblance whatsoever to a life within the BRF.

If I had to throw my money down on the table I'd put it on the BRF's commitment to survive, to reap the benefits they receive and to carry on their legacy and not risk it with this addition and that she will not be able to withstand the campaign that I believe is in place against her even as we speak.

I have to remind myself that the BRF are not there because of a national vote; they are there by the grace and acceptance of the Public.  They know full well who pays for their existence and as much as they probably make fun of all of the uniforms and ribbon cutting, they know that there is a certain stability with the monarchy that displaces the current unrest in the world and people feel a sense of constancy with their presence, IF and only IF they continue their mystique of not being quite touchable and performing their duty.  "Modernizing" the monarchy only goes so far.

They are all long view thinkers in the Firm and it would shock me if HM isn't already concerned about the future.  Charles and Camilla are a great unknown and a concern as far as popularity goes.  William (and Kate) has not been able to bridge the gap in the way that was probably expected so Harry has been the one member who is, or was, widely accepted as that bridge and has been able to maintain a royal "don't touch" but also be hand's on.  That's a very hard quality to have and they know his value.

To blow that by bringing on board what I absolutely believe will be a very disrupting influence in the form of MM is not even close to a wise move in this corporation.  She has no allegiance to the Crown from generations of influence, she is opinionated (as most Americans are), would require major renovation and suppression that I am convinced she would reject, and people would eventually rebel and be repelled by her actions.  They already are because it's all they have.  Their Voice.  No vote, but a Voice.  And, I've yet to see a ginormous welcome mat put out for her yet by the English.  If I'm aware of these facts, the BRF/Firm are way ahead of me on this one.  She has no chance, not really.  Not up against hundreds, if not thousands, of years of indoctrination and the quiet dignity of the basic English man and woman.

The only other option is to give it all up.  Dismantle the monarchy and everybody live quietly on their estates or Harry can go and live in Canada or the US and watch the decline of an aging actress.  How appealing does that sound?


Title: Re: Prince Harry is dating Meghan Markle III
Post by: windsor2 on December 06, 2016, 03:03:17 am
‘He’s head over heels – we’ve never seen him so happy’: Lovestruck Prince Harry takes a 1,700-mile diversion to see Meghan Markle after his Caribbean tour
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Lovestruck Prince Harry took a 1,700-mile diversion to see Meghan Markle after his Caribbean tour.
The prince was scheduled to fly home to London from Barbados on Sunday for an official job tomorrow.
But instead he went to Toronto and spent the night with his actress girlfriend.
A friend told The Sun: 'Harry just couldn't wait to see her. He was due to fly back to London on a British Airways flight with the rest of his entourage.

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 :o  It's the Sun newspaper which isn't reliable.