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Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on May 27, 2016, 01:05:41 pm
http://info-europa.com/celebrities/prince-william-jealous-kate-middleton-flirting-with-olympic-sailor-ben-ainslie-hall-of-fame-magazine-17/248504
Waity caught holding BA's hand....

It also turned out that the Big Blue probably isn't Waity's. :laugh:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/212599/Diana-ring-and-a-28-000-tax-bill


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on May 27, 2016, 01:32:40 pm
^ Everything must come to light. If it is true about Waity's flirting then it is a childish, shameful thing.  :thumbsdown:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on May 27, 2016, 01:53:56 pm
^^Big Blue was the first domino to he##, BUT, I'd bet any money that this is exactly what has been done with that ring and wisely so, as stated in your second article:

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William could only avoid the 28 per cent tax by making the gift conditional so it must be returned if the marriage were to be called off.

So, the question is, did they extend that proviso that Kate must return the ring in the event of a divorce?  Was somebody smart enough to make the ring part of the public domain?  Hope so.   Or at the very least, in the event of divorce, the ring must go to the nearest female blood relative, aka Charlotte.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: starsailor on May 27, 2016, 11:01:11 pm
So far everything seems to be just temporary. No wonder that Council Cath is so miserable. The stay at AH and KP (they don't belong to her and W), the tiaras and almost all jewellery only borrowed and probably most of the clothes are just borrowed. I wouldn't be surprised if the cursed blue ring is also just borrowed. I always had the impression that Council Cath is trying to some kind enjoy showing off the ring while it's still possible, as if someone is going to come and take it back to the vault soon. Just like what they did with the tiaras  :laugh:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 28, 2016, 09:41:22 am
I remember hearing that HM ordered the Cartier tiara to be returned right after the ceremony and then of course, she likely had to return the other tiaras right after they were used. Ingrid Seward mentioned that Kate would use the Halo Tiara for her lifetime, but that hasn't happened. When you throw in how Kate was kept at arm's length during the engagement, I believe Kate should have taken this as yet another warning sign.

Remember all the engagement stories?  About how Kate was presented with all the jewels in the tower laid out in some ballroom? Or how Charles took her to the opera and basically the ballerinas did a deep curtsy to her, making her delighted? Then how she moved into Clarence House? Turns out it was all bunk and she was kicked back to Berkshire and basically kept in the deep freeze zone with only her new protection guards.

I kept telling everyone this was a warning sign that HM didn't approve and how Charles was livid.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: starsailor on May 28, 2016, 01:30:19 pm
^
Definitely warning signs. But she and her greedy mother didn't realize what's going on.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 28, 2016, 03:02:41 pm
I think in the event of a divorce, Kate will end up more like Fergie instead of Diana. She will lose the fawning of Nichols/Seward/Claudia Joseph and I am sure that she will have to get used to being given the go-by at the hands of Victoria Beckham and her other celebrity toadies. Top tier men won't want her and certainly, she'll have serious problems dealing with the downward spiral. She might be contracted to never speak or write about her time as a consort and girlfriend and the days of ex-royals hawking wares and doing endorsements is basically over. If this marriage ends, she's toast.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on May 28, 2016, 04:32:56 pm
She and her mother thought that once the marriage license was signed, that was it. No one would be able to tell her anything and HM & the rest of the family would just have to deal. She's no different than most of these women who marry a guy but the entire family can't stand her. It's not as simple as saying, "I'm his wife and I'm not going anywhere." Especially not in this family.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on May 31, 2016, 07:53:16 pm
^^^^^ There is no way Cath could ever keep big blue. She hasn't even been given any tiara (on loan!), she has to give them sttraight back. Big blue bears too much meaning, no way will she keep that in her grubby hands.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on May 31, 2016, 09:34:57 pm
We have all been speculating that it is a copy. Not the original.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on May 31, 2016, 10:46:35 pm
^ I read that about that particular speculation a few times in different outlets, but I never understood what makes it appear to be a copy? Some argue because of the number of prongs, but Diana had the prongs added before the wedding I believe, so that theory out of the window.. Some jeweller supposedly commented that the sapphire indeed looks different on Cath Medd (appears to be a different size and whatnot), which is definitely intriguing..

Any more arguments for that theory? I would laugh my head off if that were true!  :akasha:

Either way no way she'll be allowed to keep the ring. If she does keep it, then I think we have proof that it is indeed fake. Once Waity realises it's fake, she'll totally lose it  :tehe:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on May 31, 2016, 11:06:12 pm
The sapphire looks way too dark....almost black. Diana's was a beautiful rich navy blue with some light in it.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on May 31, 2016, 11:16:01 pm
To me it also looks sometimes like different rings, sometimes it doesn't.. there's sadly no telling to be sure. If anyone has any inside info, spill the beans please!  8) Otherwise we can only hope that it's fake. A fake would fit the Crotchfakies.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 31, 2016, 11:53:17 pm
Having once clung to a boyfriend, I think she's determined to hang on so she can hang on to all she knows, even though it's not good for her. I admit I once held onto a boyfriend who wasn't good for me in a set that wasn't good for me. Kate should have realized that no matter how far she comes, it won't count. Ten/eight years a girlfriend isn't going to matter to the RF except in the context that she knew what she was getting into. It didn't mean that she was entitled to a ring, entitled to respect beyond what protocol commands her title receives, and it does not mean she's entitled to going to fashion shows, entitled to having the vaults opened so she can wear jewels freely around the house, and it does not mean she's going to be entitled to go to UN conferences and to major trade talks. The minute the ring was on her finger, a new round of work began. A new starting point. Certainly she was expected to start doing appearances, to be at her husband's side wherever he is, and certainly end up working actively with her charities. I think that no matter how good it would be for her to walk away, she might realize that she should have walked away in 2007 since after the BRF is through putting her through the wringer, she'll end up facing a public that will no longer have to restrain showing their contempt for her and then of course the press will go into a FRENZY on her by dragging up EVERY bit of dirt that is in her family background. What she must not realize is that while Fergie filed injunctions against them, she never went so far as to literally hound editors out of their jobs and then screech about being an eternal victim. Fergie worked and gave good value for a while and had two kids whose paternity is unquestioned.

I do believe as for William, his family will in one way or another take a whip to him and make him EARN his way back into their good graces. Not just tolerance, but in fact, genuine good graces and trust. I THINK his KP office has been yanked and I do think he's going to have to face the WASTE he's made of his best years. He'll have to face that he's not better than his father and he'll have to work HARD at finding someone willing to not just deal with the way of life, him, or his family, but with an ex-wife that won't go away. He'll have to deal with the fact that he's made his grandmother look like a fool, made his SOVEREIGN look like a fool, put his brother and cousins through more than they deserve and frankly for that alone he should be made to grovel. He won't have effortless hype around him, he won't be able to get glowing press coverage, or mention his mother without inciting derision. He'll have to spend his time doing appearances, all the while the public will know how much he despises them and he'll have to figure out how to rebuild his rep after all the damage he's done to it, his family, and the public.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 01, 2016, 07:23:41 am
^

Trouble is it will all be fake and hypocrisy as he has revealed his true self for far too long now.  However, as you say, he will have to figure out how to re build his rep after all the damage he's done to it, his family and the public.  Whether the public will wear it is another matter.  Let's hope it is good King Harry by then.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: One of the Peasants on June 01, 2016, 07:10:08 pm
I saw this at the PX this morning, I should have bought it but...

http://www.gossipcop.com/prince-william-marriage-trouble-kate-middleton/ (http://www.gossipcop.com/prince-william-marriage-trouble-kate-middleton/)


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Maya on June 01, 2016, 07:30:42 pm
Here you go, I think this is the right article, not sure how long it will stay online before it is disappeared so catch it while you can  :flower:

http://heavyarethecrowns.tumblr.com/post/145195583129/submitted


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 01, 2016, 07:33:59 pm
Do you know which mag this is from?  Can´t see the print, far too small.  Thank you  :flower:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Maya on June 01, 2016, 07:48:52 pm
I think it's the North American edition of In Touch Weekly  :hi: 


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 01, 2016, 08:49:43 pm
The last time the tabloids were ridiculed by the palace, it all turned out to be true and the tabloids were in fact vindicated. I do think the marriage is under horrendous strain, but I don't think there is a chance that there will be a divorce this year or any other year soon. It took a LONG time and a ton of drama to get the Wales marriage to break down and then of course, the York marriage, for Fergie to be booted out, even though she wanted to leave for some time. I think that it'll take something quite exceptional for Kate to end up divorced from William. I don't believe that there'll be much of a chance of a divorce over things that Kate and William have already done and I don't think Jecca being the mother of William's son will be enough. I think in fact, Kate has trapped herself in a horrendous situation.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on June 01, 2016, 08:52:52 pm
^^^@ GB Press control and + and it magnifies it


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on June 01, 2016, 09:12:37 pm
It will take long time, very long time but in my opinion the show has already started:
 Will leaving Kate alone last Easter, Kate not showing up during the Easter function, rumors that the marriage was in trouble last summer, Will and Kate so distant during the Indian "holiday tour, Will and Kate reportedly  not speaking each others at the Chelsea Flower Show.

And I think that in 7/10 years the big blue won' t be anymore in Kate' s manly finger.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 01, 2016, 09:35:16 pm
He may despise her for all the reasons we know but it's going to be mighty hard for him to kick his doormat to the curb.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 01, 2016, 09:38:38 pm
Breaking up his marriage will be breaking up with his easy path that he's had his entire life. It'll be a permanent end to the life of carefree ease, he'll have to take charge of his life, and then of course, end up making a definitive choice to move on. It'll be 2007 all over again +1000.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Maya on June 02, 2016, 03:38:28 pm
I agree even though the cracks are beginning to appear and I think the a Bishop of London gave them seven years before the itch after getting hitched

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1331626/Prince-William-Kate-Middleton-Bishops-Facebook-slur-I-marriage-7-years.html

I can't see these two ever divorcing.

Reason 1: They're more the same than different. After 10+ years together they've brought out the indolent worst in each other and are therefore well-suited.
Reason 2: I think they're both secretly Republicans, trying to bring down the monarchy from the inside. I say this without tongue firmly in cheek because they're doing such a good job of bringing the monarchy to its knees. It would be sad to see the Republican's gift separate, that would strengthen the monarchy.
Reason 3: If they separated that would be against Establishment and current social mores. They're needed to prop up a divorce free everyone must be married ideology. As IMO they are both dyed in the blue from birth I can't see them turning against David Cameron.
Reason 4: Their marriage cost millions. A divorce? Well, it's just not a good return on the taxpayers investment.
Reason 5: There are children involved now.
Reason 6: They are supposed to be up-and-coming C of E defenders of the faith - and probably want to make it to at least the 7 year mark to prove their detractors wrong.
Reason 7:  No matter how unhappy these two are together they would be infinitely sadder apart because then quelle horreur - they would both have to on parting, shhh whisper it Work!

I'm sure everyone else can come up with better reasons than this but there's 7 off the top of my head.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on June 02, 2016, 06:25:11 pm
YOU could be right Maya but your reasons 4,5, and 7 all relate to Diana and Charles as well and that didn't  stop them.  Maybe if/when Charles realises that the monarchy will go if this is allowed to continue then they will be ordered to divorce - there must be a lot of ways TPTB could bring pressure on willy if they really want to.  sure, the mids may well have  a lot of dirt on willy but IMHO the RF are still in the strongest position of one them is willing to "man-up" as they say


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: starsailor on June 02, 2016, 08:31:35 pm
I think that something is really strange. Council Cath is still not welcome in the rf and looks very miserable. I think if the rf wanted to keep her as a 'member', everything would look different. Council Cath would get all kinds of jewelry and designer clothes, there would be a lot of PR. The kids wouldn't be hidden and they would keep up the image of a happy marriage much more efficiently. The rf would really make an effort. Since the rf is not a 'normal' family, they can decide if she stays or not.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MOSAIC on June 02, 2016, 08:57:56 pm
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I personally think it will be after HM has left for Balmoral.  Chas and Diana announced their
separation in mid November via a statement from the then PM in the House of Commons.
It is a constitutional matter and that is the appropriate place for it.
If there are any changes coming to the line of succession, I believe that will come
from the House of Lords and I remain convinced that is why Soames is back in the
picture.
IMO they know what they're doing, when and why.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rebecca on June 02, 2016, 09:34:55 pm
^I certainly hope you are right, that an announcement is coming--but I honestly could see these two keeping up their version of 'happy families' until the cows come home...


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 02, 2016, 10:26:17 pm
Thing is, their marriage is coming apart at the seams. Kate is trying to lead her formerly carefree breezy life and William is still trying to be hip and play to the gallery, while moaning about privacy and leading a normal life. These are two broken people who refuse to adjust and adapt to their new responsibility and the BRF is in the middle trying to capitalize on a mess of a marriage and trying to recapture the Eighties. Realistically it would make sense to dissolve the marriage, but in fact, to do so would regress things back to the Nineties when divorce was causing a horrendous fracture. Kate is a broken woman, damaged long before William and William is too clueless to see that he's no longer young and hip and the future savior.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rosella on June 02, 2016, 11:14:50 pm
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I personally think it will be after HM has left for Balmoral.  Chas and Diana announced their
separation in mid November via a statement from the then PM in the House of Commons.
It is a constitutional matter and that is the appropriate place for it.
If there are any changes coming to the line of succession, I believe that will come
from the House of Lords and I remain convinced that is why Soames is back in the
picture.
IMO they know what they're doing, when and why.

^ The House of Lords wouldn't be able to change the BRF succession laws. Since 1911 it has mostly operated as a House of Review (of legislation originating in the Commons.)

 Charles and Diana announced their separation when they did, (according to a couple of the biographies I've read) because Diana changed longstanding arrangements for the boys and herself to stay with Charles and the rest of the royals at Sandringham (she couldn't stand the thought of being at Sandringham for the autumn break or for Christmas) and so there was an argument and Charles consulted with the Queen and asked for a separation. There had been the miserable South Korea tour earlier, and the aftermath of the Morton book, but it wasn't a constitutional matter that was the final straw that broke them up. We'll have to see, of course, but in my humble opinion Willie and Kate suit each other and there'll be no divorce in the foreseeable future.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on June 03, 2016, 12:18:55 am
I did read quite some while ago now a prediction about Prince William.  It said that something serious was going to happen to him/in his life and it would make him very bitter.  I suppose you could interpret this as either a divorce or perhaps Kate being removed from his life in some shape or fashion.  I have looked many times for this article but I suspect that it has now been taken down.  I do remember it made very interesting reading.  :cookie:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 03, 2016, 12:21:56 am
I remember that; it was a life changing event that would for one reason or another set William off.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on June 03, 2016, 03:59:33 am
i think one thing is Char being born. Remeber he said that she's a game changer. Ever since Waity had those 2 meetings at Buckingham Palace when she was overdue, she's lost her smug look. I agree with the person that said that she might've signed divorce papers then. Whatveer was the case, something major happened prior to Char's birth that rendered her and the Midds less arragant and in the press. I think seeing her make an arse of herself with the flirting and the flashing would make any man bitter. I think he's been bitter for years now. He has clench jaw and closed fist when he's around her. Now he just takes off and could give two tosses about how it looks leaving his family to visit Africa to see Jecca. It's got to bite that he could've used the wasted time with the Midds and gone to do something good in Africa regarding conservation. I believe that it's not one big thing that's happened in his life to make him very bitter, but a series of things that's playing out now. Them appearing in public as the loving family unit's bs. I'm wondering how her lack of engagements will be explained since it looks like her so called glam squad and her office is no more. I'm wondering how she's going to get the boot.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on June 03, 2016, 07:34:45 am
On the 10th June, after the church service The Queen, Philip, Charles and Camilla are going to a reception at BP for the visiting GGs.
There is also a reception for other notable visitors at the Guildhall - hosted by William and Kate - hardly evidence of anything serious happening at all but suggestive of The Queen feeling that they are doing the job they are supposed to be doing. Otherwise she would have had Charles and Camilla host this event rather than shadow her at the GG receptions. She is giving the more important role - actually hosting - to William and Kate.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 03, 2016, 07:40:02 am
^

Apparently this is what the RF like to portray - business as usual, then comes the bombshell.  It will also, they hope, quell the deluge of complaints regarding the lazy duo and the public calling for the end of the Monarchy.  We can only wait and see, interesting times ahead.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on June 03, 2016, 08:24:36 am
@windsor2. ITA with your post

^@Val..yes as you say business as usual.  Diana and Charles were sent to  Korea to represent ER and the UK when it must have been obvious to all in the RF and TPTB that divorce was in the offing. I'm sure the RF were well aware Charles was back with Camilla yet as usual our stupid monarch had her head in the sand and did nothing so voilà, divorce.

Willy may not want divorce as his lifestyle would have to change but the matter may well be taken out of his hands. Waity is damaging the monarchy more and more and he can hardly pretend he loves her


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 03, 2016, 08:40:07 am
I think that the monarchy was headed down before Kate married in; as for William, he chose her dysfunctional arse and I don't believe he has any right to complain. He had a DECADE to shove her off and frankly put, had a chance a long time ago to ditch her for good back in 2007.

^
Apparently this is what the RF like to portray - business as usual, then comes the bombshell.  It will also, they hope, quell the deluge of complaints regarding the lazy duo and the public calling for the end of the Monarchy.  We can only wait and see, interesting times ahead.

I think they like to yes, carry on as usual and then scramble behind closed doors for a solution, but this time there isn't any solution. It's fascinating living in the middle of this maelstrom that we would otherwise only read about in the history books or stuff in the past tense.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Maya on June 05, 2016, 03:53:53 pm
YOU could be right Maya but your reasons 4,5, and 7 all relate to Diana and Charles as well and that didn't  stop them.  Maybe if/when Charles realises that the monarchy will go if this is allowed to continue then they will be ordered to divorce - there must be a lot of ways TPTB could bring pressure on willy if they really want to.  sure, the mids may well have  a lot of dirt on willy but IMHO the RF are still in the strongest position of one them is willing to "man-up" as they say

Excellent post!

I remember the dating years well and every other week there would be pics of these two glaring at each other, no PDA, looked like a break up - then they married. I think that's the difference between Charles and Diana and this youngish couple they actually had dating years and if they made it through those I think they will make it through anything. I'm not saying that the 10 years of dating helped I just mean that it's the 'us against the world mentality' that unites these two. The more anyone indicates their glaring flaws the more they dig their heels in and the closer it brings them together which is IMO a good thing they're truly made for each other.

They're not a good fit for the country, they know nothing of working in the service sector or of noblesse oblige but as a couple who knows what they are like behind the PR? I truly hope for the sake of the British Isles that these two are granted their 'normality' - whatever that like love means to them - and we're freed from having two duffers as representatives. Then they can go on and lead the lives they are already living free from public scrutiny because in all honesty if the monarchy were to be abolished and there are no taxpayer funded lifestyles then I think everyone would be happier all-round. It's the taxpayers funding this largesse with little return on investment that really grinds my gears.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 11, 2016, 12:18:18 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3635360/Naughty-Prince-Harry-shares-giggle-Kate-Queen-s-birthday-service.html :nervous:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on June 11, 2016, 01:10:58 am
Their body language says it all.  W&K are emotionally worlds apart, and I don't believe for a second these two like each other. This marriage is kaput.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 11, 2016, 01:41:22 am
Since when has Kate ever acted like a married woman? Even at her own wedding, right at the altar she was joking and giggling around with Harry right over William. She ditched him on his birthday and bolted down to London, leaving him in Wales with frozen foods. She's never at any point even tried to make a real home with her husband and basically she's run home all the time, to be coddled by her loony mother and doormat father.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on June 11, 2016, 03:19:49 am
It's stupid of Harry to get involved with his brother's drama. I think that he did this to deflect from Wills basically ignoring her save for the boring and predictable hand on her back for the photo op. Harry's getting scathed in the comments saying that he likes her  :nervous: :ick: :ick: and that he's getting his leg over (sleeping with her). I'm tired of him doing stuff that gets him unnecessary bad press. Wills married this waste of space. It's not anyone else's problem to deal with her and cheer her up as well as take attention away from Wills. When is Harry going to put his own needs first? This chick's not worth any sympathy. She went after Wills and stayed with him for years despite the bad treatment and disrespect he's shown her only because he's the future king. F this girl and her crap. She should ask for a divorce now and save herself from disappearing all together as she looks mentally drained and boney.  :bored:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on June 11, 2016, 05:40:46 am
The photo of Kate smile-laughing with Harry conveys the most genuine emotion I've ever felt from her.  I very nearly feel sad for her life.   Quite amusing all the miffed faces in the crowd.  Antics were wholly inappropriate, but I love seeing stuffy folks squirm a bit. 

Off topic:  Prince Michael of Kent always looks like someone just wee'd on his Post Toasties.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on June 11, 2016, 05:51:34 am
You're very companionate because I feel zero sorry for her life. She was stone cold in hanging onto him through all the bs that she put up with from him when it was clear that he was just using her for convenience sake. He only married her because of pressure from her nasty mother and docile father and the press. Of course she likes Harry because he's not a cold twit like Wills. The sooner she gets the boot the better because the way things are going, Harry might as well be her other husband. She and Wills made their beds so they need to bloody well deal with it and stop expecting others to sort out their crap. I'm talking about their staff as well who have to scurry around and lie to the public about the state of their marriage, "their kids", etc. it's time to put a keg in this ill fated marriage and blow.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 11, 2016, 06:18:53 am
^^

The only other time she looks genuinely happy is when some dumb sycophant curtsies to her.
What is it with these silly women, anyone with half a brain wouldn't do that to this totally unsuitable and on the way out creature.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on June 11, 2016, 08:35:48 am
Wow! Finally it's all happening....you were all right all along. I wonder when the separation will be announced. I bet we see articles later this week about major marriage problems. I love the DM stirring the pot. You know they just caught the one time he talked to her. I'll wait to hold judgement of his behavior until I see the video.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on June 11, 2016, 09:56:29 am
She is flirting, that's sure. Willy seems to be nervous. She always wants to show that she gets on well with Harry. Willy doesn't care of her so she speaks to Harry.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 12, 2016, 10:42:32 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637954/Prince-Harry-pulls-face-Queen-s-birthday-lunch-looks-just-like-father.html
Waity's dream scenario: get rid of doomed boring Wimpo and latch on to Harry the future king?


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on June 12, 2016, 10:52:12 pm
Did Wills even speak to her? Harry talking to her deflected from the coldness between her an Wills. Perhaps if he didn't, the press would've reported in the glum Cambridges. I think the kids on the balcony also gave him an excuse to ignore Waity. This can't go on too much longer because Harry can't be around them at every public engagement to deflect from Wills not dealing with his problem.
^yeah, she'd love that.  :cookie:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on June 12, 2016, 11:06:18 pm
Oops timed out.

So now that the queen's 90th birthday celebrations are over (hopefully today was the last event) maybe this farce of a wedding will come to an end publicly. As discussed before, it's alleged that  Waity signed some papers prior to Char's "birth" that agreed to a divorce/ separation/ confession regarding the kid's bio mix as it's believed by some that she's not the natural mother. Anyway, she's lost her smugness and the Midds have basically laid low. Then there's the story about Pippa being told by Wills to lay off using Royal connections to get jobs in the entertainment industry. It's like things are being put in place to make this marriage come to an official end. Wills looks like he's going through the motions and Harry picking up the slack.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 13, 2016, 12:49:58 pm
As all of us are so sick and tired of The Potato Head and her machinations and evil in your face family, can you just imagine how the members of the RF feel about her and them?


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 13, 2016, 02:09:31 pm
^

Not surprised that the Medds have been pushed back under their stones then.  Word out in Bucklebury is that there is nothing Ma would like more than for someone to curtsy to her - dream on knife knees.  Some of the RF split their sides laughing when they heard that.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on June 13, 2016, 04:55:46 pm
https://youtu.be/TJ7j9Q6wQcg (https://youtu.be/TJ7j9Q6wQcg)

Found this wandering YouTube and thought it very interesting since its pretty much on top of things hapoening right now.  :sigh:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 14, 2016, 01:27:48 am
Anyway, she's lost her smugness and the Midds have basically laid low. Then there's the story about Pippa being told by Wills to lay off using Royal connections to get jobs in the entertainment industry. It's like things are being put in place to make this marriage come to an official end. Wills looks like he's going through the motions and Harry picking up the slack.

I think the offers for Pippa have dried up and I think Kate is looking a lot more down, except when Harry is smiling at her.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 14, 2016, 09:00:29 pm
I do not believe that The Duke of Dork has any intention of unloading his Pyscho Potato Head wife. He's living the life he wants to lead with her at his beck and call living separately. His Crown Jewel Viper MIL runs his own court at Amner Hall just to his liking. And his Robotic Pyscho Potato Head is trotted out and put on display when needed and then shoved back into what ever box she's kept in until he needs her for the next outing. This is the way the Brat of Dorkdom wants it. And he's not going to change it no matter what she and the Crone have done.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on June 14, 2016, 09:03:59 pm
I'm very much in agreement to that at this point india. He doesn't see anything wrong with whatever agreement they have going on and lazy sod that he is, why change it.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 14, 2016, 09:14:28 pm
Just like the marriage of his parents.

I find it almost amusing in a dark way that William shunned his set because he thought they would only want a marriage for show, but go figure, he ended up with just that, an agreement and marriage for show. Zero marital love life, zero home made meals, and zero family time with wife and kids.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 14, 2016, 09:36:36 pm
A robot(Waity) can never deliver that.
He was fooled big time.
And the Viper gets what she wants.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 14, 2016, 10:00:22 pm
He's not going to divorce it unless he is threatened with exposure regarding all that he and The Robot did.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 14, 2016, 10:58:56 pm
I sincerely think he won't make a move that will show he's been made into a fool. A disclosure about something 'unknown' would make him look weak and like an idiot and there would need to be something more substantial than 'irreconcilable differences.' It would have to be Kate caught with another man, caught stealing from him, or perhaps having her caught out planning to usurp the succession. The main reason Diana got kicked out of the RF was because she did Panorama and called into question Charles' fitness to be King and then calling the courtiers conspirators.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MOSAIC on June 18, 2016, 12:54:42 pm
^

Not surprised that the Medds have been pushed back under their stones then.  Word out in Bucklebury is that there is nothing Ma would like more than for someone to curtsy to her - dream on knife knees.  Some of the RF split their sides laughing when they heard that.


Anyone who did that would be the joke of London town, they would show themselves
but stupid and very very ignorant.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 18, 2016, 01:00:13 pm
^

Even that woman at the Ben Ainsley event became a laughing stock curtseying to council Cath.
Yes, anyone curtseying to knife knees would never recover their reputation.   


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: empirestate on June 18, 2016, 09:54:11 pm
Just like the marriage of his parents.

I find it almost amusing in a dark way that William shunned his set because he thought they would only want a marriage for show, but go figure, he ended up with just that, an agreement and marriage for show. Zero marital love life, zero home made meals, and zero family time with wife and kids.

I get the feeling that he was the one that was shunned and he might've "rebelled" against it. He loves being the victim. I think the women in his set didn't bother with him cause he's a freak show. Why would an aristocrat marry that whining idiot when they're guaranteed to marry into their own set? The money, the privilege is still there without the insanity of being a a part of the RF.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 22, 2016, 10:54:02 am
http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/29691/20160622/kate-middleton-prince-william-divorce-prince-george-dad-jealous-of-prince-harry-wife-relationship-duke-duchess-of-cambridge-splitting-up-soon.htm


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on June 22, 2016, 12:13:06 pm
Re Waity and Pronce Harry.

That part of the story reminds me of the title of that famous LP by The Sex Pistols.

Namely, "Never mind the bo//o@£s, here's The Sex Pistols".

 :BS: in other words.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 24, 2016, 07:03:16 am
Given that William and Kate have settled in the country, I believe Kate herself might file for divorce. Kate is just the Duchess of Cambridge; it means that it might be another ten years of living in the countryside with few trips to London and frankly I think she's at a point where she simply cannot cope. She has a lot of unresolved issues that her marriage hasn't resolved and she can't cope with a husband as unambitious as William. I don't think she can cope with the coldness of William's family, or the fact that her dreams of a life of jet set glory has been unfulfilled and frankly her life is just one big void right now. As for William, he doesn't have the home life he wanted and I'm sure he is sick of her ambitious, interfering mother.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on June 24, 2016, 09:07:17 am
^ She wanted the ring, the title with Carole behind so she clings to them with tooth and nail but how long will she endure it?  :cookie:


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 24, 2016, 12:29:42 pm
She will endure it until The Dork wakes up and throws her boney a$$ out.


Title: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 24, 2016, 01:31:24 pm
I wonder what Wimpo feels when he sees the other toffs healthy beautiful wives and then looks at the Grim Reaper in an outdated Barbie dress.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/c38a9e07d529d143e5e9d25f49129f41/tumblr_o97kz7HGFj1qzwoilo1_500.png


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 24, 2016, 05:06:53 pm
^^ Perfectly Put Stephanie^^


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 24, 2016, 11:37:23 pm
I wonder what Wimpo feels when he sees the other toffs healthy beautiful wives and then looks at the Grim Reaper in an outdated Barbie dress.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/c38a9e07d529d143e5e9d25f49129f41/tumblr_o97kz7HGFj1qzwoilo1_500.png

He chose her; no one put a gun to his head and frankly, if the tabloids had eaten him alive, so what? All he had to do is cultivate the respectable press and get the courtiers to do a smear job on the Midds (playing the outraged ex who found out the torrid truth about her and decided to end it) and after a dozen tours and appearances looking smashing he would end up getting the goodwill of the tabloid press and all would be well. I don't think Kate (or any woman) is owed a ring after a number of years. No one is.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on June 25, 2016, 07:29:36 am
He could have just said that she wasn't right for him, it didn't work out, and he wanted to move on. Now it would be a mess because they're married and have kids together, but back when they were just dating? Kate was popular with the press so there would have been negative articles for a while, but if William did his work and royal duties and stayed away from Kate (nobody wants to date a man whose ex is constantly around) he would have eventually found someone else.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 25, 2016, 12:49:15 pm
Wee Weak Willy.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on June 25, 2016, 01:17:52 pm
 And coward, too.  :Middleton:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 25, 2016, 10:18:44 pm
One of the best things I learnt and where I have developed IMO is that I am no longer so stubborn that I cannot admit that I made a mistake. It used to be very hard for me and I still don't like it when sth doesn't work out the way I saw it (who does), but at least I can now say "shyte I *despise* this, but at least it was a learning experience." And I'm lucky to be young still, younger than Bill. Too bad that he is so stubborn that he ruined and keeps ruining his own life. He should be an example to every other stubborn person out there.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on June 26, 2016, 10:04:14 pm
 :worship:^me too , I think it's a huge part of growing up and becoming mature. And when Willy finally does this he'll chunk her back to ......hell :Kate:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 26, 2016, 10:27:43 pm
He could have just said that she wasn't right for him, it didn't work out, and he wanted to move on. Now it would be a mess because they're married and have kids together, but back when they were just dating? Kate was popular with the press so there would have been negative articles for a while, but if William did his work and royal duties and stayed away from Kate (nobody wants to date a man whose ex is constantly around) he would have eventually found someone else.

I think if he had left her, he would have continued to idealize her. He married her because she came from an intact two parent family and instead of being brave enough to build a family of his own, he decided to keep Kate around and be part of what he thought was a family that wanted him.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 26, 2016, 11:43:16 pm
^ Quite possible. Sometimes it's better to go with your eyes open into an awful situation because somehow you need to actually experience it in order to understand it. Too bad that in this case a whole country, the people and respective families have to suffer plus the worldwide embarrassment in front of dignitaries and citizens....


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 27, 2016, 01:36:06 am
I do believe that William has no clue of the horrendous destruction he's unleashed on his family; just the same, Kate is clueless about how much damage she has done to her Sovereign and of course, the nation's prestige. For someone who climbed so hard, she's doing remarkably little to uphold the prestige and do her best for her Sovereign. If William sincerely comprehended the disaster he's wrought, he would go mad. Literally mad.

I don't think Kate will comprehend the damage she's done because she is so narrow-minded and frankly wasn't raised to be broadminded. Her entire upbringing has been centered on her feelings and her wants and HER goals in life, look at how she treated her courtship with William. She fancied she would end up married right after uni, no matter what William's plans were, or whether or not it was what he wanted, it was all about her timeline.

I think the more William spent time with Kate, the narrower his viewpoint about life became. He went from spending time doing humanitarian work to mooching around the clubs and basically jet setting to 'unwind' after doing token military work. He went from doing various appearances to whining about not having privacy and blaming the press and making threats each time Kate got worked up over a random snap of her going about her days.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on June 27, 2016, 02:42:43 pm
The #1 thing you are warned against, at least in my pre-marriage consulting with our Church head, was "Do not marry potential".  Do not go into a marriage thinking you can change, alter, mold, or in any way turn a person into something other than what they are, at the moment you marry.  That expectation is the major cause of most marital collapses.   And, in almost every case of divorce that I have witnessed, it has proven to be true.

In PW and Kate's case, they blew this one right out of the gate, I believe.  She expected PW would lean, in time, more towards her family's lifestyle when all signs pointed to that never ever happening and PW expected Kate to eventually be groomed into a role for which she was never trained.

Unless they can live separate, empty lives and be somewhat content with that, this marriage is doomed.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 27, 2016, 07:04:06 pm
^ Very good advice! Many of the theories people on here fit the ditzy duo like a glove, including this. Good to keep in mind for oneself  :shy:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 27, 2016, 07:10:26 pm
It's all in the training; Kate was regrettably 'trained' in the perks of the lifestyle:

1. Suing the press
2. Getting away with bashing the BRF/indulging in a persecution complex
3. Getting discounts and freebies
4. Turfing out other girls in clubs and picking at the Yorkies
5. Enjoying the leisurely lifestyle between phone calls
6. Setting terms of what she does in her spare time
7. That William would be the one to protect her and that would be his job, instead of the other way around

The irony is, the very role of being a royal is waiting in limbo, which is why royals need to spend their time doing charity work, appearances, and projects. Not mooching around, brooding about how the BRF is persecuting her. She wasn't raised to fill her time constructively and with positive activities and routines. I don't think William really faced that he needed someone to help him open doors for himself and his people.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 27, 2016, 07:40:18 pm
The Potato Head and all the Middletons bring out the worst in Willy Shyte Head.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 27, 2016, 07:51:44 pm
^ And Willy Shyte Head brings out the worst in the Potato Head and all the Middletons. It's a vicious circle...


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 27, 2016, 10:55:31 pm
That is so true. A marriage made in hell for sure. I hope they are enjoying their lives together.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 27, 2016, 11:18:05 pm
At least they saved two people from a life of marital misery; imagine being married to Kate as a hard working man and treated like dirt and basically saved a nice girl from the marital Hades that marriage to William must be for Kate.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 27, 2016, 11:38:51 pm
Very true. Two souls spared plus those two deserve each other. Perfect ending, really.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 28, 2016, 07:05:46 pm
Hell on earth with those 2 horrible people.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2016, 11:38:05 pm
With Kate's constant abandonment of her household responsibilities, I wonder if whether or not William could cite abandonment as the reason. It would be a neat way of making it clear that Kate is unreliable and neglectful and he would get off scot-free by using the PR tactic, "My wife is never there for me or the children and since right after the marriage she was negligent in her duties as a wife and mother and it reminds me of when my mother left me alone all the time." As asinine as the reason, if not sexist, it would be a clever caveat. Abandonment of the marital home is a pretext used in some cases and frankly it's one that would be a powerful weapon. It would in fact finish Kate off since she's already showing that she's not going to do duties anyway, so why keep her on as a consort? I think William is just enough of a pig to use that pretext.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on June 29, 2016, 11:42:44 pm
^ Quite frankly, that seems like a good possibility. Plus her image would get the final but most powerful blow. She'd publicly never recover from that and that would also set the motions for sole custody for Bill (aka The Windsors). Just not sure whether they'd do that, as the publicity would be very high (lower if eg "irreconcible differences" or whatever you can state on divorce papers, am not an expert).


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 30, 2016, 12:20:31 am
Either way a divorce will be covered extensively, so no need to worry about that.

Abandonment of the marital home would be something that yes, she would never recover from and she would be marked as a failure of a wife and it would set a precedent among royals to divorce over something substantial rather than the eternally used "irreconcilable differences" that is a BS joke.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 30, 2016, 06:27:32 pm
Worthless will never divorce More Worthless.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on July 01, 2016, 05:55:02 pm
Waity nearly in Harry's lap, whilst keeping the distance to hubby dearest

http://i67.tinypic.com/t0g27d.jpg

What she considers to be a flirty look

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmR575hWEAE148Y.jpg

To Whiny

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/30/22/35D6279900000578-3668692-image-a-20_1467322546642.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on July 02, 2016, 12:57:32 am
Worthless will never divorce More Worthless.
I agree with you India, as much as it would delight us for him to do so.   :sigh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on July 02, 2016, 06:24:18 am
I thirdly that as well.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 02, 2016, 07:08:51 am
He won't while HM reigns and he won't while his father reigns.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on July 02, 2016, 02:20:12 pm
I still believe that she signed papers last year when she had to go to Buckingham Palace twice whilst overdue with Char. She either signed a confession of the nature of the kids and/or divorce papers that won't be filed, imo. I think it's possible because she'll continue to be a useless person on engagements, and ready to jump on Harry whenever he's around.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 02, 2016, 02:53:53 pm
Poor Harry being subjected to a humperama ambush from the Old Hag at any time. It's got to make him a bit nervous.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on July 08, 2016, 02:09:46 pm
I doubt they are a happy couple (family). There isn't harmony among them. George doesn't like being with them, Willy is nervous, Waity is trying to keep up appearances.  :nervous:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 08, 2016, 08:33:16 pm
Good Luck With That Potato Head.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on July 10, 2016, 04:17:58 pm
http://66.media.tumblr.com/7b3f44abe7c72f7749d3c4097bef6f4b/tumblr_oa3o84UH1f1tcmbfuo1_1280.jpg Cold body language.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/7b148e3bbfe52e557163d0f83d754e8c/tumblr_oa3oiwE1NR1tcmbfuo1_540.png Not a happy camper
http://65.media.tumblr.com/7adb0923f9c9a796d491a61c186ba09a/tumblr_oa3sceLL6N1qjrmi6o3_540.jpg Clenched jaw.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on July 10, 2016, 05:26:31 pm
^

He can't even be bothered to make an effort for good PR.  He probably knows it is just a waste of time as everyone sees through it and highlights it too.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Snowpea on July 10, 2016, 08:58:27 pm
Those around them are less than impressed.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 10, 2016, 09:19:36 pm
http://66.media.tumblr.com/7b3f44abe7c72f7749d3c4097bef6f4b/tumblr_oa3o84UH1f1tcmbfuo1_1280.jpg Cold body language.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/7b148e3bbfe52e557163d0f83d754e8c/tumblr_oa3oiwE1NR1tcmbfuo1_540.png Not a happy camper
http://65.media.tumblr.com/7adb0923f9c9a796d491a61c186ba09a/tumblr_oa3sceLL6N1qjrmi6o3_540.jpg Clenched jaw.

He did this to himself; she did this to herself.

Neither threw their lives away for each other, there was nothing there to begin with. Kate went to school for a posh degree, William went to school to shirk doing appearances and duties and basically freeload off of his family's money while playing at being a student.

I don't think Kate was ever going to move out of her narrow mindset and understand William's wider obligations and William kept rejecting a role that made his life ten times easier. He pissed in the face of his family and people and chose to live a narrow minded, his version of normalcy.

I don't think I need to start up on what I think about Kate.

As far as I'm concerned, he made his marital bed, he should rot in it. He had his free ride and now that is over.

For them, the party is over, so boo-effing-hoo. NO sympathy from me and they don't deserve it, only contempt.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on July 10, 2016, 10:21:01 pm
Goodness me, they look as though they absolutely detest one another.  And that frock, where on earth did she get it from, some charity shop?  Looks like bugs all over her.  Who on earth in their right mind would even look at it, let alone even consider buying it.  About time she got some new plebs to dress her, the current crew are making her look a complete mess.  You could not pay me to wear that frock it is so hideous.  I wear beter doing the house work.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on July 10, 2016, 10:32:04 pm
Why is she always trailing him?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on July 25, 2016, 12:45:16 pm
Yup Waity wants Hunky Ben and not Horseface Baldo.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3706183/Well-hello-sailor-Kate-s-latest-meeting-yachting-hero-Sir-Ben-Ainslie-looks-jolly-pleased-him.html
http://67.media.tumblr.com/8082eb3890694c83537a63fd2861f95f/tumblr_oauby0P5jO1qjrmi6o8_540.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on July 25, 2016, 01:50:54 pm
She absolutely likes him. She is flirting again.  :nervous:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PBrJ_yEXqPo/V5TmIzfvRXI/AAAAAAAA-Mk/O4SCVCDuBE0oaH1i_PHYda4lBE1Fke3QgCLcB/s1600/kate%2Bpresents%2Bben%2Bainslie%2Bwith%2Btrophy.jpg

Perhaps that's why this family photo was released.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ngSdDcQoKTY/V5P-iuCYDjI/AAAAAAAA-IA/NGiphRDhLH8G3mFhgK1vTA_iZ7uYHwL4gCLcB/s1600/lrb.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 25, 2016, 01:57:47 pm
She would jump his bones if she got the chance.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on July 25, 2016, 02:01:47 pm
Upsetting Ben' s wife who just had a baby. Not surprised Waity has no friends. :ick:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 25, 2016, 02:05:26 pm
Oh how disgusting; how completely disgusting. Putting on airs of tragedy when William goes off to Jecca, but does this to Ben's wife.

She would jump his bones if she got the chance.

Even the DM has written about it and you know it's out of control when the DM finally admits to that kind of behavior.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 25, 2016, 02:05:39 pm
No Friends is right. Nada. Nobody but The Knife Knees who is there to program it on a daily basis.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on July 25, 2016, 11:32:25 pm
Ben's wife is far  more attractive than hard faced Waity and they look truly happy.  A really lovely natural photo.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 25, 2016, 11:39:48 pm
I think that if she were divorced, she would end up self-destructing; she wouldn't be able to stop herself from messing with men (available or not), she would not be able to live within her means of a settlement, she would likely harass any woman William dates, and of course, do interviews. I don't think the House of Windsor could handle a divorce since she would kick up such a huge apocalyptic fuss and do horrendous damage.

As for friends, she would do any friend a dirty turn given half a chance. She can't seem to help herself at all.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on July 25, 2016, 11:44:55 pm
She could be muzzled for a decent payout according to some.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 25, 2016, 11:46:56 pm
She would be like a fembot on viagra.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on July 26, 2016, 01:01:19 pm
Ben's wife is far  more attractive than hard faced Waity and they look truly happy.  A really lovely natural photo.

^ Yes, I agree. Waity is far far away from his wife. If Waity wants to make Willy jealous then their marriage is in trouble.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on July 26, 2016, 09:05:05 pm
^
Didn't Princess Diana try and make Charles jealous by dancing with Wayne Sleep?

And her DIL is acting the same way to make William jealous of her.

All IMHO though.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on July 28, 2016, 08:37:14 am
^ Perhaps that's what she wanted. She is up to anything so copying Diana, too.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on July 28, 2016, 10:22:11 am
^
Didn't Princess Diana try and make Charles jealous by dancing with Wayne Sleep?

And her DIL is acting the same way to make William jealous of her.

All IMHO though.

Diana performed the dance with Wayne Sleep as a surprise for Charles' birthday in 1985. She practiced in the utmost secrecy for weeks and made an excuse to slip away to get ready while Charles was still watching an act at Covent Garden. He berated her for it calling her showy.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on July 28, 2016, 03:25:49 pm
Now I remember what dance you mean. I think Diana did it rather to make her husband interested in her again, than just jealous. But that time the marriage was pretty much over and she may have had hope to make it work again. Just really sad how he treated her, constantly berating her, even when she fainted on tour, and here when she wanted to surprise him..


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on July 28, 2016, 04:13:52 pm
^ Yes I felt very sorry for her. As you said, Diana was trying to get her husband to be interested in her as a woman again. I know they had their ups and downs but she was the one who always tried the harder to put the marriage back on track.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on July 28, 2016, 04:24:02 pm
Veering off topic, guys.  Thanks, YM


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on July 29, 2016, 09:00:06 am
I think it doesn't mean good if they don't spend together the first this year's holiday (not as a family).


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 29, 2016, 09:03:47 am
I think at some point, we'll know the marriage is over when she cries out for protection and she no longer gets help from the palace. Maybe one day she'll come and her office will be locked and staff dispersed, or maybe William will openly make the rounds with another woman.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 29, 2016, 11:44:05 am
I don't think The Horse Head is ready to unload his robotic stupid Potato Head.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on July 29, 2016, 07:26:23 pm
^

He can't bear to admit he was duped and reeled in by the Midd's cunningness.  His stubbornness has landed him with the most unsuitable wife who will never be right for the role.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on July 29, 2016, 07:38:38 pm
Never in a million years.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 30, 2016, 12:05:00 am
You know, I often wonder why people end up in the wrong marriages and I realize now that it's because so many people never grow up. They keep the 'too cool for school' attitude and basically throw away their maturing process and so get mixed up with the wrong person. William and Kate are the same, too busy being hip that they didn't realize the magnitude of what they were beginning to get themselves into.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Liza on July 30, 2016, 03:45:04 pm
Jecca had her baby in December 2015.  Was that about 9 months after the hunting trip to Spain with William or was the hunting trip 1 year earlier?


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/prince-williams-hangs-out-with-ex-girlfriend-jecca-craig-2014122


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on July 30, 2016, 03:56:49 pm
It was in February 2014.

Prince William flies off to shoot wild boar in Spain... days before launching a campaign to combat illegal hunting

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2554484/Prince-William-flies-shoot-wild-boar-Spain-days-launching-campaign-combat-illegal-hunting.html#ixzz4Fu6zIrmR
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Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mememe on July 30, 2016, 10:45:23 pm
^^

^

is it a annual trip??  ??


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on August 02, 2016, 01:18:17 pm
There is no smoke without a fire. ?

http://www.inquisitr.com/3371840/kate-middleton-divorce-royal-couples-marriage-allegedly-suffering/


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 02, 2016, 01:33:51 pm
Given their chronic lying, I am sure the palace will never tell anyone anything and Kate will never want to leave. She would lose too much.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on August 02, 2016, 01:56:49 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that this marriage is not a happy, thriving one.  We don't have two adults to work with.  As for divorce, from my experience, it is usually a team activity.  If the couple is in trouble, here come the family and friends to offer their input which is mostly self-serving. 

I ask myself, who has anything to gain by keeping this marriage together?  Only HM when I boil it all down.  Not even Carole because nothing has nor ever will pan out for her as she imagined.  The media?   :laugh:  PW's social set? 

So, good luck with selling your relevancy, Kate, when met by the juggernaut of the BRF and media or even PW's boredom. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on August 02, 2016, 02:45:35 pm
It's interesting that there are two distinct stories going on here. First Kate flew alone and was spotted being transferred to a waiting Range Rover and was reported to be visiting relatives (relatives in France that were previously unknown unless the midds changed business). No mention of William until 24 hours later (after the first questions were asked). Then suddenly it was the whole family visiting relatives (again no known Royal relatives in that area of France that they have supposedly visited). As Kolkomilko stated, there IS no smoke without fire.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on August 02, 2016, 03:34:36 pm
 :thumbsup:

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“Their issues are on an even bigger scale, and they’re constantly arguing at the moment about the pressure Kate is under, William’s attitude about it and how to raise their kids.”
Stil taliking about the pressure of Kate? It' s been 5 years since she got married, she should be used to that, she must be used to that.
Plus as I said thousands times, she married William when she was nearly 30, an adult, she knew what swhe would have  been through, yet she married William.

Furthermore, I don' t think she' s under such a huge pressure since Kate barely works.


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The royal couple came under fire again when several tabloids discovered that Middleton had skipped out on this year’s Easter Sunday church service. According to the Bit Bag, the duchess didn’t attend the service since “she wanted to get separated from her husband.
Their french holiday is a huge lie too.
Kate only has been spotted, where is Will?

It proves that Will and Kate can' t stand each others IMO so they' re having separate holidays


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on August 02, 2016, 03:45:56 pm
^ I've just posted on the holiday thread that they've both allegedly been staying in a 5 star hotel in Biarritz. I don't believe a word of it. It's PR damage limitation once again.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Miss Hathaway on August 02, 2016, 05:36:10 pm
^^ Yes, Kate has had plenty of time to settle in and get used to the "pressures" of royal life/marriage.   She is a miserable woman.   At least Diana enjoyed her charity work, her children, and was loved by the public. But in the end, it was not enough for Diana, and she had to leave.   Kate has none of this to fall back on, so I think she's ready to leave, as well.  Carole is probably forcing her to stay.   But perhaps this marriage of Pippa's will provide Kate the escape she is looking for.  She can remove to her brother-in-law's island as a place of refuge.   


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on August 03, 2016, 09:01:06 am
This fuss about their holiday means troubles in their marriage but I think it can't be covered.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 05, 2016, 10:09:39 pm
If this alleged French holiday is a smoke screen to make us think their marriage is work then few are believing it.  Their body language is ice cold, and he looks at her as though he can´t stand the sight of her.  I also find it very strange that the press have released the identity of where they are allegeldy staying, complete with photos.  Surely any holiday location like that would be kept under wraps, particularly with it being France and right now with all their terroristm problems. That is why I am not buying it one bit.  As someone else said, we have never heard of French relatives, and I feel very sure had there been upmarket French "rellies" as council caro calls them, we would have had them dredged up a long time ago.  If HM is trying to make us all think this marriage is working then she is living a La La Land for sure.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 05, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
I think going on vacation is the worst thing to do; the prob elm won't go away and jet setting won't change things. Couples counseling and frankly, it's time they grew up and stop trying to recreate the years of carefree uni and post-graduation era.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 06, 2016, 10:02:41 am
Actually, a vacation can sometimes make it worse, when you are thrust into the full time company of one another.  Let us face it, they do not work, they have no household chores, nannies for the sprogs, probably see little of one another in the UK, so why should going on holiday make it all work for them  -  can cause more harm than good.  If they can´t stand the sight of one another a holiday won´t do them much good.  Another reason why I think they are not in France together.  If they push out some happily family holiday snaps then no doubt they will be cobbled together as usual from a mixture of several photos.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 06, 2016, 06:39:35 pm
This worthless pair should just throw in the towel and go their separate ways.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 06, 2016, 09:08:33 pm
No they most certainly should not!

Kate has no business walking away from this like she did to her jobs and friendships in her twenties and she should stick it out. As for William, he had his chance at happiness and threw it away. Frankly put, he has no business dropping his marriage and thinking he can just start over on whim.

If that marriage ends, both of them will basically end up going back into society, trying to recreate their golden years and making a huge mess for everyone around them. William will be mugging and playing to the gallery while Kate hits the club scene again.

They don't like it, tough on them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 07, 2016, 06:05:22 am
William is useless as far as attracting a new spouse because:
-doesn't spend money on anything or anyone (no gold digger appeal, and even a normal woman would like a gift from her husband on special occasions)
-he looks old for his age, is balding with a bad haircut, too thin/out of shape, and has yellow teeth (no heartthrob appeal)
-mean personality: his "humour" is either sexist or making fun of someone in a mean way (not a nice person to be around)
-his heir and spare were already born (a future wife would not have the satisfaction of knowing she gave birth to a future king or queen)
-no work ethic or admirable character quality

I say he should stick with Kate. He doesn't appeal to anyone anymore.  :thumbsdown:

Kate also would not be able to attract a husband:
-looks 10-20 years older than her actual age, depending on the photo
-way too thin, looks masculine now
-no work ethic
-no social or business connections

They should stay together because they are perfect for each other.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on August 07, 2016, 08:20:27 am
^
^^

No way would Ma allow it even if it meant sticking them together with superglue. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on August 07, 2016, 08:26:27 am
^^Add to your list for waity,  Leogirl, one look at those pix of her infected looking crotch


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 07, 2016, 08:35:34 am
^ Yes, she definitely needs to see a doctor. Hopefully she's already fixed her, um, problem.  :ick:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 07, 2016, 01:45:53 pm
^^GROSS^^


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 07, 2016, 03:37:13 pm
William is useless as far as attracting a new spouse because:
-doesn't spend money on anything or anyone (no gold digger appeal, and even a normal woman would like a gift from her husband on special occasions)
-he looks old for his age, is balding with a bad haircut, too thin/out of shape, and has yellow teeth (no heartthrob appeal)
-mean personality: his "humour" is either sexist or making fun of someone in a mean way (not a nice person to be around)
-his heir and spare were already born (a future wife would not have the satisfaction of knowing she gave birth to a future king or queen)
-no work ethic or admirable character quality

I say he should stick with Kate. He doesn't appeal to anyone anymore.  :thumbsdown:

Kate also would not be able to attract a husband:
-looks 10-20 years older than her actual age, depending on the photo
-way too thin, looks masculine now
-no work ethic
-no social or business connections

They should stay together because they are perfect for each other.

Both are too self destructive for anyone other than each other.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 07, 2016, 09:53:19 pm
A marriage truly made in hell.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 09, 2016, 06:22:54 pm
^And it shows, big time.  More fool them if the continue to think we can´t see through it all.  The body language between them is so ice cold, and the looks he gives her, if looks could kill she would be dead on the spot.  Can´t imagine how they think we can ever believe they are even friends anymore, let alone a "happy couple".  She looks miserable as sin, and the same applies in reverse  -  if looks could kill bill medd would be dead on the spot.  Good thing they did not take up acting, because they sure are totally naff play acting, would never git a role, as useless at acting as they are at everything else.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 09, 2016, 06:29:32 pm
I do wonder just how bad it is behind closed doors. I don't think either has any real reason to be unhappy since after all, it's not like they have any real reason to think that they didn't chase after each other. I DO think however that a huge reason is that both expected life to just happen, to launch them into the world as major players and since it hasn't happened, both blame each other for holding the other back.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on August 10, 2016, 08:25:22 am
When shall they be tired of this playing a "happy couple" thing?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 10, 2016, 06:29:59 pm
I would like to know how anyone could have an intelligent conversation with either one.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Joanna on August 10, 2016, 06:41:39 pm
^Right? All the resources and the best education a human being could afford all seem to have gone to waste. It's like they don't even make an effort to do something out of their lives.  :- It baffles me.  I wonder how can they even put up with their façade because in some photos they seem like they can't stand each other.
Imagine the divorce proceedings? The War of the Waleses would be so uneventful and dull by comparision...  :-X


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 10, 2016, 08:48:59 pm
It would be so much fun to watch. We would have a field day with it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 10, 2016, 09:46:26 pm
^So would the press........  ;)


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 10, 2016, 10:24:46 pm
^Right? All the resources and the best education a human being could afford all seem to have gone to waste. It's like they don't even make an effort to do something out of their lives.  :- It baffles me.  I wonder how can they even put up with their façade because in some photos they seem like they can't stand each other.

They don't make their education work for them because to them it was just a way to pass the time and basically naff off. Kate wanted to land a young man to take care of her and William wanted to have a good time. Just the same with their duties, it's something they don't take seriously. While I agree that cutting ribbons is dorky, it's not like they're qualified for anything else.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 11, 2016, 01:54:51 am
By their ages and with their expensive education and titles, they should be huge international figures by now. Charity work, international relations, promoting Britain and the Commonwealth, etc. They should be fluent in at least a few languages each. Mary I knew four languages and could understand a fifth. Elizabeth I knew six languages by the time she was 11 years old. That is being royal and educated.

Instead they married people who don't challenge them to be better people, no personal growth. They need to push themselves to actually work and get out of this funk before it's too late. Do they think that when HM passes they'll suddenly be able to take up all of Charles's current responsibilities? They need to slowly increase their workload so it's not too big a shock when they're suddenly Prince and Princess of Wales. Or they can continue to do only a handful of engagements per year and the monarchy will quickly fade into being completely irrelevant (a lot of people already think of it that way, but being 1st in line and doing next to nothing will only make matters worse).  :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on August 11, 2016, 02:10:39 am
^ They should really be huge international figures by now. They are so lazy, it's mind boggling. They'd fit perfectly into that programme about people on benefits who abuse the system.
Bill also should have studied something that would be useful to his position, like Felipe did. International Relations comes to mind, or at least some agricultural management programme (not that laughable thing that was fitted onto him for a few weeks, which he apparently didn't even finish). No, he went for history of art, which was too much for him and then changed to geography. I have no problem with these programmes as such, they are just such a waste of time for someone like Bill. He could have prepared with an appropriate uni degree, whilst dodging royal life as he was a student. win-win. But so far we are only on a lose-lose-lose-lose-even-more with Bill and Cathy.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 11, 2016, 06:53:38 am
I agree that he should have gotten a more useful degree. Geography is interesting, but that should have been something that was a few elective classes, not an entire degree program. Maybe he wanted to drink/party, so he chose a program that didn't require as much studying or writing papers?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 11, 2016, 07:57:07 am
I think William should have been privately tutored and drilled as much knowledge that could be drilled into his head. As for Kate, like dozens of others like her, she prefers to basically go for a good time and find a man willing to support her shiftless self. Princes used to get extensive educations in everything from law to economics and I think that if he had, he would not be in this mess of a marriage. I think his issue is that he took a narrow minded approach to the idea of what kind of education he should get and then narrowed his focus to enabling Kate's craziness. I do think that if Kate had not pushed her way into his life or if William had not been so easily led and decided to go off track, he would be in a better marriage. I don't think Kate will ever really get it into her thick skull that she is not one of the aristocracy and William will ever get it into his thick head that he doesn't have time to grow, he has now and needs to wise up and get it together. William made a huge mistake by making Kate his responsibility and he should have cut her loose the minute she started throwing his influence around to push people around.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Joanna on August 11, 2016, 02:40:35 pm
I agree with you all when you say he should be more fluent in languages and that perhaps he should've gone for another degree but I don't know if he has the sort of intelligence and cunning necessary to successfully take International Relations and put it to practice by becoming a very huge and very respected figure in the diplomacy/international community, he does have the necessary resources and advisors though. What baffles me is that for all his talk about the responsabilities inherent to his position he doesn't seem to act in an appropiate manner so to actually improve the lives of his future subjects. To put it simply, the whole Noblesse Oblige concept is unknown to him.

I just had a gag reflex when I remembered that this entitled and social alienated couple will become the Prince and Princess of Wales. I had an even harder time to surpress gag reflex when I got the mental image of a smirking lazy Katy, becoming HRH Catherine, Princess of Wales.  :o Can you imagine in case of a possible divorce Catherine becoming known for ever as Princess of Wales, the mother of the future king?  Because I can picture her to act like Sarah Ferguson you know, never re-marrying and enjoying her connections. I know people compare her to Lady Diana all the time but it never hit me with such sadness how poor a comparision she makes to her late mother-in-law.  :sorry:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on August 11, 2016, 03:26:38 pm
Truly sickening to think of them as P&PoW, mainly because I, like many, associate the position so much with Diana and Charles. The upside is that they are not automatically P&PoW once Charles ascends, I think it has to be officially granted, at least that is my understanding, don't know if it's true. But I don't think that Charles will grant them the titles that easily and quickly.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 11, 2016, 08:07:25 pm
I don't see him granting anything towards anyone all things Middleton.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 11, 2016, 09:36:59 pm
There is no need for them to have a title, they are not royal, they have done nothing for the community, Great Britain or anything else.  Don´t think dragging the rf into the sewers is worthy of having a title bestowed upon them.  No other inlaws have been given titles, why should they be.,  And the other in-laws have not dragged the rf down.  Unless of course council caro wants to buy herself a title, just like orangina-s future in-laws.  Lady Council Caro would sit well on her  :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on August 11, 2016, 10:36:07 pm
The instant Charles is King, William will become The Duke of Cornwall (and in Scotland The Duke of Rothesay along with all the other Scottish titles). He will thus be known as HRH The Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge. As that is a mouthful I suspect that within a few weeks, months at the most, Charles will create him Prince of Wales.

Charles was made to wait 6 years to be created PoW. George V waited 10 months (and was officially HRH The Duke of Cornwall and York in the interim). George V created Edward VIII PoW in June 1910 - a month after the death of Edward VII, who himself had been created PoW a month after his birth. I suspect Charles will want to go down the George V route of ASAP after the accession rather than follow his mother and great-great-grandfather's example of making William wait too long. He will definitely be PoW by the time of the Coronation.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on August 11, 2016, 11:18:33 pm
 :sob:
William Prince of Wales ?  :sob:
Waity princess of Wales  :nervous: bignono

I hope Waity will wait for ever for that title.

I hope when these two become the prince and princess of Wales the English will rise up against the Monarchy or at least Will and Waity and they will become " normal" people, commoner who need to wake up at 6 to go to work

That' s my dream  :flower:

Sorry but if Will Middleton is made Prince of Wales, also Harry will become so. Harry prince of Wales, is that correct? Sure he deserves this title much more than his useless brother.  Capitain Wales prince of Wales  kisss that would sound so nice


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on August 11, 2016, 11:47:10 pm
 :thumbsup:, yes Harry for Prince of Wales  :flower:

may kate wait and wait and wait, until her potato face grows sprouts from all the waiting.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 12, 2016, 12:07:04 am
No automatic titles for Harry because he is the second son. He will probably get a title if/when he gets married.

Charles was 3 years old when his mom became queen. Very different to William, who has been a grown man for quite some time.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: annecros on August 12, 2016, 01:00:29 am
Actually he is HRH Prince Henry of Wales right now. When he marries he will get a Royal Dukedom, which is considered a higher rank than he is now.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on August 12, 2016, 01:37:49 am
Assuming that Harry is still single when Charles becomes King he will becomes HRH The Prince Henry. The 'of xxx' indicates the child of a royal duke while 'The' indicates the child of the monarch. If he is married he will still become HRH The Prince Henry but the title will take precedence and so he will remain HRH The Duke/Earl of xxx.

Harry gets nothing automatically other then his original HRH as the child of a son of the monarch.

William will get everything automatically as the future King. That is the way it works.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on August 12, 2016, 01:57:14 am
Charles might also decide to give Harry a dukedom before he marries, the giving-titles-upon-marriage is sth that is specific to Liz, her predecessors had other styles, some gave titles at birth, or at other milestones like becoming 18 or 21 years old.. So Chuck might decide to upgrade his son regardless of his marital status.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 12, 2016, 08:57:23 am
Hopefully, Willy Middleton Horse Head and his Scrag End Unhinged Wife will be deemed mentally unfit to assume any new titles. They are a pair of walking disasters who need to be kept out of the public eye.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 12, 2016, 02:55:37 pm
^Yes, agree, and the sooner the better IMO.  They appear mentally deranged half the time to me.  So lazy, and so many lies told by them, for them, on their behalf.  No wonder few believe a word spoken by them or their press office, and they normally end up with dozens of eggs on their faces when caught out, which very often these days they are.  Time to wave them goodbye, off into the sunset never to return to British shores.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 12, 2016, 04:48:51 pm
One thing I do know, is that I don't feel an ounce of sympathy. He made the huge mistake of thinking that he owed Kate some kind of recompense for the years she put in, basically letting her take advantage and turning his back most irrationally to be frank. He then turned his back on his people, who adored him from birth and have celebrated his every single step since his first. He turned his back on HM and forgot willingly that she's also his queen who basically deserves his first priority. He refused to cut Kate down to size when she got WAY out of line and above herself.

As for Kate, I've said enough on that subject.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 12, 2016, 06:10:38 pm
Willy and The Potato Head have a lot to answer for.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 13, 2016, 08:53:37 am
HM needs to push their boat off into the sunset.  Bill medd has become a medd, he is no longer windsor in my eyes.  He and council cath are well suited  -  bone idle, self entitled, money grubbing scumbags.  They have never worked or earned anything, I don´t count the search and rescue or the EAAA because we all know they are scams to makes us think he works, when the truth of the matter, from all at these places, is that he is never there and only goes in for some pr photos, for which he uses taxpayer hard earned money to pay for.  He is not fit to be a prince let alone a king, end of.  All bill medd is good at is suing photographers, whining about people invading his privacy, and doing his own thing sneakily behind the scenes, thinking, stupidly, that the public believe every last lie tha drops from his tongue or pr office.  Doubt he has a decent brain cell in his head.  He married this odious creature, who knows why, and foisted her on to his family and the British public  -  none of whom want or even like her, she is as brain dead as him.  About time HM took her head out of the sand and dealt with this whole sorry bill medd and council cath situation.  Fergie was outsted out for far less.  Toe sucking pales into insignifcance with the crotch/butt/boob flashings we have had, the laziness, the lies and frauds committed by her and her vile family.  The final insult for me, the ultimate, was her flashing at the Bhutan War Memorial, the disrespect was incredible.  Knew it was a windy country why not dress appropriately.  To add insult to inujury she was more concerned with holding her hair down that her frock, she would rather flash her nether regions than let her hair fly  -  maybe worried in case the  extensions blew off  -  would have been preferable to her insutling the King and Queen of Bhutan at the War Memorial.  She lusts after Ben Ainslie, quite obviously, after him like a b*th in season, disgusting.  How both of them can stand there, knowing that the whole world has seen every last part of her body. As for him in India, his trousers were so tight on the crotch they left little to the imagination.  And these two slappers are supposed to be future king and queen consort.  Seriously?  Are the rf for real.  And to think Fergie was forced out because some guy sucked her toes  -   makes her like positively wonderful next to council cath.  A divorce is the order of the day, either that or send him packing with her never to be seen on these shores again.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Snowpea on August 13, 2016, 01:28:51 pm
 :thankyou: :gogirl: :goodpost:

Exactly - it's amazing what they are STILL alllowed to get away with. They are disgraceful and are not NOT good King or Queen material for a myriad of reasons. They know and everybody else knows but nothing is done yet.  :sly:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 13, 2016, 02:16:28 pm
Nothing will be done. HM is going to carry on as usual. Her Horse Head Brat and His Moronic Potato Head wife will continue doing just as they please.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 13, 2016, 04:12:01 pm
If all this explodes in her face then it is no less than she deserves.  This should have been nipped in the bud over three years ago.  HM has buried her head in the sand, which has achieved zilch and the problem is escalating all the time, with more and more people reading the writing on the wall and working out that this dully, useless boring couple are just that.  If he worked for a corporation he would have been out on his a$$ donkeys years ago.  If they want to keep bill medd, then get a divorce going and wave council cath and the rest of her council family off into the sunset, never to return to UK shores.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on August 29, 2016, 09:43:55 am
Wimpo trying to rid himself from the Potato Faced Leech?
http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/41680/20160829/kate-middleton-prince-william-divorce-queen-elizabeth-tries-hard-to-save-marriage-royal-couple-splitting-due-to-dropping-popularity.htm


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on August 29, 2016, 12:22:47 pm
^ After this article the duo shall pretend to be a happy couple and they shall be all smiles next time when we see them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 29, 2016, 02:59:07 pm
Wimpo trying to rid himself from the Potato Faced Leech?
http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/41680/20160829/kate-middleton-prince-william-divorce-queen-elizabeth-tries-hard-to-save-marriage-royal-couple-splitting-due-to-dropping-popularity.htm

Thing is, it could only confirm that they only do well when things are going easy for the other. If they were a real worldwide golden couple, they would in fact be happier together because it would be a continuation of that free ride that life gave to them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 29, 2016, 03:32:38 pm
But neither appreciate the position they are in.  It is their right and entitlement in their view just because they exist.  They do not appear to see why they should work and give something back.  All they want are the sky high perks and left alone to do whatever it is they want to do at the time  -  and work is not on that list by a long chalk.  They detest engagements, they appear to detest the company of each other, they appear to have little bond with the sprogs, so one can assume all they want out of life is to be lazy, petulant and kept in wonderful luxury for doing zilch.  More fool HM for encouraging it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 29, 2016, 07:53:40 pm
HM is going to rue the day.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 29, 2016, 08:49:02 pm
I remember reading that HM turns to traditional remedies of gin/tonic and martinis to get herself through bad times. She must be two-thirds of the way through the wine cellar and basically must be ginned up in order to handle public appearances.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on August 29, 2016, 09:05:29 pm
HM must be two thirds alcohol by now  :tehe:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on August 29, 2016, 09:25:28 pm
Alcohol induced dementia.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on September 08, 2016, 03:50:09 pm
Wimpo and Waity ordered to Balmoral! :Carole: :Carole:
http://www.ibtimes.com/kate-middleton-visit-balmoral-scotland-prince-william-children-ahead-canada-tour-2413035


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on September 08, 2016, 05:14:26 pm
IF they are going to Balmoral it will not be of their own choosing, council cath detests the place, and it is well past end of season up there. Weather been dreadful my friend tells me, happy to be away from there for a while. And we all know what HM and the rf think of bill medd and council cath, and no bond with the sprogs either.  Either it i a smoke screen to continue the charade of a "happy family" or they have been ordered up there. One or the other.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 08, 2016, 06:01:51 pm
I think they've been ordered up there; no way do they go there willingly. I am certain that they've been basically told to straighten up. Going to Balmoral with an entourage is so pretentious.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 08, 2016, 09:15:38 pm
^^

As you say GB a smokescreen to make it look like happy families.  QE desperate to preserve the Monarchy which has sunk to is lowest with the Mids infiltration.   Council Cath hates going as she can feel the intense dislike of the RF for her and knows that she is barely tolerated.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 08, 2016, 10:45:31 pm
Barely tolerated is right. I would lay money that HM would love to smack the shyte out of The Gurning Potato Head's face.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 08, 2016, 10:55:58 pm
^

HM wold have to join a very long queue!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 09, 2016, 12:17:01 pm
Yes, probably they've been ordered up there, Waity doesn't like to go there.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 09, 2016, 05:13:45 pm
They go every September.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on September 09, 2016, 09:24:19 pm
How come they have an engagement on 16 September if allegedly going up there for a week. Their pr people seem to forget what they release to the public, as usual  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 09, 2016, 11:39:01 pm
^^Well, how about that?^^


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on September 09, 2016, 11:48:22 pm
^^Not to worry. The helli will be made available to shuttle them to the engagement then back in enough time to get their evening dose of a$$ chewing from Phillip.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 10, 2016, 12:23:21 am
True - every member of the BRF spends a week or so at least at Balmoral during the Queen's summer holidays.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 10, 2016, 12:57:08 am
Thing is, they skipped it often enough in the beginning of their marriage.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 10, 2016, 12:59:42 am
Kate was :spy: because she knew they didn't like her. There is a reason PW didn't tell his family about his engagement until just hours before it was announced to the public.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 10, 2016, 01:45:47 am
Thing is, they skipped it often enough in the beginning of their marriage.


They have been to Balmoral for at least a weekend every year of their marriage according to my sources.

It isn't reported every year when every different royal goes there as it is their private lives e.g. some years we are told that Sarah has made a visit - but it isn't reported every time she goes but she has been a lot more often then has been reported.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 10, 2016, 08:11:51 am
Visits are often made to keep up appearances as QE is almost paranoid about rifts being publicised especially after her annus horribilis and the Monarchy's unpopularity after PD's death.  She can't risk its popularity ever sinking that low again.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on September 10, 2016, 08:34:53 am
^ Yes, I remember reading that council cath does not like going up there and cries off when she can, there have been a couple of years when they have not been, busy doing other things  -  like blagging freebie holidays from anyone council caro can talk some poor *fool* into giving them.  We already know HM can´t stand the sight of her, and it shows on her face  -  no words needed on that front, if looks could kill.  Interesting, if there is a trip to Balmoral, that it has been "arranged" post that absolutely dreadful Scilly Isles and Cornwall visit.  That visit was a complete joke, start to finish.  Not even one decent crowd, shows how interested people are in the lazy duo  -  popularity must be virtually down to zero now.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 10, 2016, 09:43:55 am
True - every member of the BRF spends a week or so at least at Balmoral during the Queen's summer holidays.

Yes, it is the official point of view/engagement but that is another matter they go or not. The duo don't go every year there. We would had heard about it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 10, 2016, 12:14:54 pm
Crafty old Ma used to dress Waity up in all the hunting, shooting, fishing gear before she snagged the ring just to make her look interested in all country pursuits.  There was even a hilarious pic of Ma slithering along on her belly with a gun and looking over her shoulder for the camera.   No wonder there is talk of divorce with Waity's 'interests' changing over night and the ghastly Medds popping up everywhere dragging the Monarchy in to the gutter


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 10, 2016, 12:43:38 pm
Talk about a sting and a con job. The Viper's plan was excellently executed.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on September 10, 2016, 01:02:56 pm
^^ @ Val - Do you think she has heard India has nicknamed the the Viper?!!!
b]Ma slithering along on her belly with a gun[/b]


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 10, 2016, 07:14:31 pm
These forums are read by the RF, TPTB and the Midds.   They all know what they are called.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 10, 2016, 09:06:49 pm
Maybe  that's why The Viper and The Sag Face Potato Head are constantly getting plastic surgery which doesn't do any good and is a waste of money.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 10, 2016, 11:27:36 pm
Not surprised there is talk of divorce, there is only so much plastic surgery and fillers a face can take.  If Kate is not careful she will become very much like
 the viper, one step away from the Bride of Wildestein 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on September 11, 2016, 06:49:58 am
Wimpo and Waity ordered to Balmoral! :Carole: :Carole:
http://www.ibtimes.com/kate-middleton-visit-balmoral-scotland-prince-william-children-ahead-canada-tour-2413035

Saw the pics with the QE, her in the drivers seat Waity riding b$ch :nervous: makes me wonder why they were summoned? And why pics were out on the net soon?? Like what are they telling us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3783559/I-m-driving-seat-Kate-Queen-proves-control-chauffeurs-granddaughter-law-Scottish-estate.html



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 11, 2016, 11:43:29 am
They are trying to convince us that they all love hard working hands on Waity  lol
Especially the Queen cherish her  lol


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on September 11, 2016, 01:35:56 pm
How does Kate manage to flash Big Blue from inside an suv?  It's amazing.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 11, 2016, 01:53:04 pm
Because she is a professional flasher.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 11, 2016, 02:20:43 pm
 :tehe: Her hand is right in frotn of the window  :tehe: showing off the big blue  :tehe: How pathetic she is!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on September 11, 2016, 03:37:14 pm
It is an obvious PR spin and damage control. Suddenly they are in Balmoral and look! The queen drives her favourite Katie Babykins Meddledoom in her car. Pics out as soon as they were taken, yet none of Bill who was in the car behind. And Waity once again looking for the cameras and holding big blue firmly in place to be in the shot. They are so transparent, it's laughable.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 11, 2016, 08:46:43 pm
^

Comments in the DM that it's a PR stunt and damage control as you say HRHOlya.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 11, 2016, 09:13:18 pm
It's pretty obvious especially as it comes close to their waste of money and time trip to Canada. It's going to be the same bs on the Canadian tour with Waity flashing, flirting and being a common ditzy fool, whilst Will's give her the cold shoulder and acts like it wasn't his fault he ended up marrying the mess. What the queen and the rest don't seem to get is that they can't continue to do pr stunts like this to get the people to stop talking about divorce or that the royal family's frozen out the Midds. Waity's a mess who's not the comprehension or depth to make something of her position. She looks and acts like she's no clue as to what she's doing or why she's doing it; in other words a lost unstable appendage. HM will spend the rest of her days trying to smooth over countries and people this girl has offended. I expect the Canadian tour to be a bust and the Canadian's wanting to boot her out of being head of state simply based on what Waity will do and the dour presence of the idiot who married her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on September 11, 2016, 09:19:47 pm
Now there's a pic of Liz driving Scraole around, wtf are they on? What are they trying to say? and where is Mike M?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/11/20/3831880700000578-3784204-image-m-11_1473622731793.jpg  :ick:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on September 11, 2016, 10:09:56 pm
WHAT THE _____ IS VIPER DOING WIT DA QUEEN??   :Kate:

Please tell me they're hammering out a divorce decree.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 11, 2016, 11:03:06 pm
That ain't happening.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 11, 2016, 11:33:39 pm
^^

Absolutely desperate PR to make the monarchy look stable.  Those close said it was staged after Kate asked Willy to do something to stem the tide of *despise* directed at Ma.   QE reluctantly agreed as would do anything to save the fast becoming redundant and unpopular Monarchy.  The Republicans say it won't exist in a few years and about time too.  What they don't realise is that the whole world knows what the viper is like and pulling these PR stunts just has the opposite effect, makes QE even more unpopular.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 11, 2016, 11:44:50 pm
 :worship: :goodpost:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 12, 2016, 12:42:08 am
These photos are very... odd. They look a stalker took them from a distance. Aren't they on private property? Did the RF want these photos leaked to show how much HM loves Carole and Kate?  ???


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 12, 2016, 03:58:05 am
Private property in the UK isn't necessarily the same as it is elsewhere. They have 'right to roam' laws that means that anyone can walk all over the property. There is a restriction about how close to a home the roamer can get but they can't be stopped from roaming over the land. It is therefore possible that some 'roamer' was able to get reasonably close and given modern phones, ipads etc it can seem that the photographer is a lot closer than was the case in the past.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: logically on September 12, 2016, 04:25:49 am
Surprised that WK & PW & Ma didn't give Chris Jackson an engagement present in the form of exclusive photos of the happy extended family.  All PR.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on September 12, 2016, 06:33:47 am
These photos are very... odd. They look a stalker took them from a distance. Aren't they on private property? Did the RF want these photos leaked to show how much HM loves Carole and Kate?  ???

I agree stalkerish photos planted exactly so. Weirded out. And I *despise* it and think it's awful and want to Un-see it . I would like to think Willy would not submit his Granny into lowering her standard of direct company to such a level but!!! :dontknow:


All I can hope is that those photo ops were a parting gift of an amicable divorce settlement!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 12, 2016, 07:14:12 am
I don't see any suggestion of a divorce in the foreseeable future - a third and even fourth child maybe - but no divorce.

William - having been the product of a broken home - is more than likely determined to not repeat the same situation for his own children. It was one of Diana's wishes - to not have her children have a broken home and she failed. William wants to not repeat that and so will remain with Kate. He took his time to settle on her as his wife, the mother of his children (Yes I do know what some here like to believe but I don't agree with that idea at all), and his Queen. He isn't going to dump her - and have the media circus that would follow. He lived through that with his mother and isn't going to unleash that on his children.

He also isn't going to give the high ground to Harry - if Harry were ever to find a woman who would agree to take him on.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 12, 2016, 08:13:47 am
:tehe: Her hand is right in frotn of the window  :tehe: showing off the big blue  :tehe: How pathetic she is!

It's ridiculous. She should stop showing her dream ring and go on further. Perhaps she should work.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 12, 2016, 10:16:00 pm
I don't see any suggestion of a divorce in the foreseeable future - a third and even fourth child maybe - but no divorce.

William - having been the product of a broken home - is more than likely determined to not repeat the same situation for his own children. It was one of Diana's wishes - to not have her children have a broken home and she failed. William wants to not repeat that and so will remain with Kate. He took his time to settle on her as his wife, the mother of his children (Yes I do know what some here like to believe but I don't agree with that idea at all), and his Queen. He isn't going to dump her - and have the media circus that would follow. He lived through that with his mother and isn't going to unleash that on his children.

Agree; the reason Kate fought as hard as she did for that ring is because the minute she ended up married, she would be completely secure. HM supposedly told her grandkids "no divorce" and I believe that William won't kick Kate out of his life, if he did keep her after a decade.

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He also isn't going to give the high ground to Harry - if Harry were ever to find a woman who would agree to take him on.

You have a good point there; I do believe that Harry is going to have problems finding a woman willing to be his wife and frankly I believe that the smart ones, the hardworking ones, the nice ones are going to pass Harry by for as long as they see they'll have to deal with looney Kate. I do think that it's now an 'if' over whether or not Harry is going to find the right type for the position and not have to deal with Kate's drama.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 12, 2016, 11:29:48 pm
I agree, dealing with Kate should be terrible.
But what if harry finds a woman like his mum was, an hard working woman who doesn' t care about Kate' s insane flirty attitude ( who maybe pity Kate as well), a woman who is loved like Diana was.
This woman surely will outstage Kate, which doesn' t take so much, plus she will turn the whole prerss against her  :flirt:
I' m just dreaming


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 12, 2016, 11:42:35 pm
^Thing is, a person can take only so much BS until she starts cracking up. No one can shrug that off forever.

As for William and Kate, I think it's going to be futile to think that a divorce is perpetually on the horizon.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 13, 2016, 09:42:32 am
I think unfortunately this "trip" was about PR and not a divorce.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 13, 2016, 10:14:46 am
 :thumbsup: I agree, this trip was not an holiday, it was PR


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 13, 2016, 07:21:09 pm
Ma looks as if she is there under sufferance.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 16, 2016, 10:20:13 pm
Bloody cold as ice. There's no way that they'look be able to keep this sham marriage together. They can't stand each other and this is seeping out in their body language. She looks like a soulless bag of bones who he's dragging around on these waste of time engagements.
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Rebecca English ‏@RE_DailyMail
William and Kate listen to parents talking about how much @StewardsAcademy has done for their children. pic.twitter.com/H1nNovd3xI
Jennifer
Jennifer –  ‏@Chic_Happens_
.@RE_DailyMail interesting body language
Oh, Rhilly
9h9 hours ago
Oh, Rhilly ‏@OhRhilly
@Chic_Happens_ @RE_DailyMail What in the world is going on?! So many questions.
Jennifer
9h9 hours ago
Jennifer ‏@Chic_Happens_
@OhRhilly @RE_DailyMail Kate couldn't close off towards William more. Legs, arms, hands. Body language isn't exact, off, but...interesting
Oh, Rhilly
9h9 hours ago
Oh, Rhilly ‏@OhRhilly
@Chic_Happens_ I mean her tookus is going towards him but everything else is  saying no and you better not get too close.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on September 16, 2016, 11:20:32 pm
I suggest PW file a restraining order against her and her trashy clan, post his guards, file for an annulment,  and face his adoring public and tell the truth in the matter. He didn't want her. Period. He was and still is entitled to not choose her.  He doesn't have to wait another second. Man up and be done with it. No one can stand in his way. I, for one, will have immense respect for the man.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 16, 2016, 11:40:39 pm
^

The Monarchy will never be respected again unless it gets rid of Cath and her trashy mooching family pronto.  The UK public would welcome a divorce.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on September 16, 2016, 11:56:37 pm
Well said, Val.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 16, 2016, 11:59:23 pm
I suggest PW file a restraining order against her and her trashy clan, post his guards, file for an annulment,  and face his adoring public and tell the truth in the matter. He didn't want her. Period. He was and still is entitled to not choose her.  He doesn't have to wait another second. Man up and be done with it. No one can stand in his way. I, for one, will have immense respect for the man.

Look, William made his choices despite the warning signs along the way. Uncle Gary should have been a deal breaker, but he kept her on. He should have filed a restraining order the minute she started up her BS in 2007, but he didn't. He CHOSE to basically marry her. I don't sympathize with people who have more than enough warnings, but still play with fire. While he shouldn't be chained if there is abuse, he should NOT at all just be able to walk away without having a DARN good reason for it. He's been given EVERYTHING and isn't entitled to anything.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on September 17, 2016, 12:29:15 am
With respect KF, PW has the same entitlements we all do, the same rights guaranteed him by virtue of being born and granted him in writing by the international declaration human rights. He is entitled to right of his person, his body, his name, to choose his spouse, etc.  Being born heir to the heir of QE II does not and should not deny him these and/or all of his basic human rights. KM is not entitled to special rights including being allowed to be leeched onto PW  and/or the British taxpayers for personal and financial gain which is all this is. 

PW is allowed the rights of law which govern UK and that states he is allowed an annulment, etc.

Why would anyone wish PW such horror day in and day out? Other than a middletrash clan member?  And do you truly believe PW doesn't have a reason for it as you state? I am confused by your post. Hope you aren't offended as I mean no offence.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on September 17, 2016, 12:34:11 am
Sorry for the double post as I cannot modify my post.  KF, the last poat was poorly writtenans I wasn't suggesting you are a middie or wanting to make PW suffer.  That being said, making him stay in a fake marriage which isn't even a legally binding contract to begin with (mark my words) is in itself abusive: psychologically, emotionally, etc.

We disagree and that's Okay. To each own own opinion.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 01:01:34 am
DG, here is how I look at it:

1. Like everyone else, he went to uni and lived a fairly undemanding life and played around during the summers
2. Like everyone else, he got to choose who to spend his time with, ignoring his own family rituals at times
3. Like everyone else, he basically chose who he got to marry

He's had ENOUGH of being like everyone else and unlike everyone else, his wife is on coins, on plates, on plaques, and has her place in British history. Unlike everyone else, if he switches spouses, he will be causing a huge change in the paperwork, course of history, official photos. These aren't small things and if he creates yet another royal ex-wife running amok, I am sure that it'll only create more humiliation for the nation. He also shirked his ceremonial duties and other events in favor of leading a life like everyone else WELL PAST the time in his life when this should have been permissible. He has no problems using his leverage/prerogatives to get what he wants and push others around, he had best lump it and do his duty. Why should he be allowed to basically create a fresh mess via divorce and having his wife become his ex-wife and have her running around using her empty title as a calling card? Or perhaps let Kate have the HRH and basically become an adjunct member of the RF? They'll REALLY cause a huge amount of trouble if William tried for another wife and go figure, would end up enabling Kate to cause NO END to the trouble she's capable of causing to so many.

The Windsors can't survive another divorce and can't survive more and more ex-wives with courtesy titles running around. More payouts, more custody drama, who knows how many messes Kate will make once on her own and free with a lavish pension and maybe KP as a pied-a-terre of her own. No decent woman would want to get in that mess and William is no prize either. He had double everything in life and blew it all on a woman everyone warned him about. Double looks, double money, highest of titles and position in the succession, and endless resources to make life just as he saw fit. He had his chance, took it, and blew it. He has no business being able to dissolve a marriage blessed in high mass in Westminster no less and then changing his mind, divorcing, and then hitting the singles scene with the belief he deserves another free ride. You don't just change your mind after five years of marriage and think that he should just be able to move on. If he wants out of that marriage, he had better have a GOOD reason other than not being compatible.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 17, 2016, 01:24:42 am
^^Wow, now I'm intrigued as to the wedding not being legally binding.  :cookie:
He should put himself and his family out of it's misery and dump the whole lot. It's way bigger than him being a dick in choosing her. This sham marriage is doing more damage to the monarchy the longer the farce continues. The queen being nice to council Carole won't stop the press from seeing the truth that Wills and Waity are in a cold marriage that should end sooner than later. Now when the plug is pulled, have all the Midds rendered useless to the press and not be able to run around making money and being a nuisance like Fergie is. The constant joint engagements about mental illness should change me into play when Waity gets booted out.  8)
^she'all have to get kicked out of the monarchy wants to survive. The reporters that cover the royals are talking about their cold body language. It's only going to get worse. Besides, the royals have all the things that they've whitewashed about her and her garsly family so her and her family shouldn't be too difficult to sideline. It'd be stupid if they've learned nothing from the Fergie mess. She shouldn't get much of a settlement if the question of the kid's births are proved correct. There's been nothing but lies since that fateful day in April where this creature and her crew was let loose in the royal family and on the world.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 17, 2016, 01:37:53 am
Divorces are messy even for non-royals. He knew her for 10 years before he married her, so there shouldn't be an excuse that they weren't compatible because that should have been detected during their decade of friendship/dating. I don't think there is any abuse going on where a separation would be necessary for safety reasons.

As for an annulment, five years is way too long. If there was insanity or mental illness, that would have come up long before the engagement. And they have two kids so they can't say that their marriage was never consummated.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 03:34:17 am
I don't think I'm going to basically sympathize; I don't think she's going to leave with dignity and she won't end up going quietly. She'll put up a HUGE tabloid feast of drama and leak like crazy. She'll then shriek about defending her home, fighting for her marriage, and basically get the press wrapped up into an even bigger frenzy. Then if William tries to date she'll pull a Fergie and basically end up causing more drama. Cut look with a courtesy title I am certain that she'll do more damage to herself and her ex-husband. You really think that Kate will go quietly?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 17, 2016, 03:47:08 am
^^And at the end of the day, this broad's going to get the boot because people are seeing and discussing the coldness between them. Don't be surprised if mental illness will be used as for why Wills married her and why she now can't handle public life. Something will be done to make the public not question why she'll get kicked out after all the years that Wills has known her. What a bloody mess he's mafde of his life being ancored that that cold thing and her grasping family.
^It'd be sheer suicide if the royal family has leant nothing at how to not creat another Fergie. They have all the dirt on the Midds and will use it. This mess of a girl will go quietly when the time comes. Since she had those 2 meetings at Buckingham Palace prior Char's birth, she's lost her smugness, so i know something major happened then. I'd expect the courtiers have fleshed out a plan to rid themselves of the Midds with little collateral damage the the royals and that the royals are going along with that plan. As dumb as the queen looked driving that vipper around, it'd be mindboggling if there wasn't some alterior motive to why she invited that thing on her property. The bottom line is that she's a liability that has to be gotten rid of to halt the sinking of the House of Windsor.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 05:56:34 am
They can't claim that they didn't know about her background, in detail after a near decade. They could have kicked her out of William's life long before the engagement announcement and let William get flamed by the press and public for being mixed up with her, but no, they protected him.

How on earth is the BRF going to release all that dirt on her without getting mixed up in being liable. If for example, they knew that the Midds had been laundering money for Space Alien Drug Lords, then I am sure that the public would ask WHY the BRF didn't get William out of that relationship? Or perhaps basically inform the public of it and then end up making William take a hit for his stupidity? Or cut William out of the RF? Let us be frank, it's not like William should have been protected from his choices and should not have been able to protect Kate. He got mixed up with a bad crowd via Kate and he should have KNOWN basically not to get off track and should have listened to his friends who warned him.

He chose to be anchored and essentially parent her during her entire twenties. He threw his life away. I admit I got mixed up with a bad crowd during my teens, bad boyfriend actually much like Kate, but in the end, I turned twenty-one and then dumped him shortly after in the fall (my birthday is in the summer) and frankly in my view, William has zero excuse. He should have known the warning signs. Considering he took SUCH pride in spotting users right away, she should have launched ALL his red flags and warning sirens.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 17, 2016, 06:36:55 am
I highly doubt that there will be a divorce for a number of reasons.

What they may do is announce that Kate has had a 'mental breakdown' due to the pressures of public life and so she retires from doing public duties at all and only appears at the very big events in the same way the Crown Princess of Japan rarely appears in public or the Duchess of Kent now doesn't do royal duties.

That way William will only do his duties solo and she will live at Anmer with the occasional story that he visits her there.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fredericka on September 17, 2016, 06:54:35 am
I don't think they've even thought about splitting.  I get that he's a bit of a pompous git most of the time, and she looks a bit awkward with him (probably trying to guess what sort of mood he's in), but that's just him - he'd be like that with any woman he's with, I feel.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 17, 2016, 07:07:49 am
As awkward as they appear, Weak Willy Woo Woo loves his Potato Head Mattress. She and her Heinous Mother totally cater to his every need. They manipulate and play him. He's not thinking about unloading either of them. They have clamped this situation down completely.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 17, 2016, 07:44:55 am
Crafty Ma collected all sorts of info from him in the early days when she clucked sympathetically over cocoa in their late night chats.   He was put in to situations at villa Bang Bang with Uncle G and co which he allegedly wouldn't want revealed and there is so much more.   Stuff is already leaking and it will all come out one day.   He is too stubborn right now to admit he married in to a complete disaster of a family who reeled him in and played him for their own greedy social climbing purposes.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 05:34:57 pm
Oh for pity's sake, William was not a helpless child who didn't get a choice over where he went during his off time. He CHOSE to put himself in that mess, no one MADE him. He was stupid and should have been focusing on his career and other training, not jet setting all over the place.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on September 17, 2016, 06:27:29 pm
^The problem with that line of thinking is that PW is a spoiled entitled brat. Never forget "Don't you know who I am?" that he screamed at Kate.  Whatever he will want now and in the future he will never take any personal responsibility nor care about any repercussions as long as he gets his way. 

I wouldn't bet on anything when it comes to William.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 07:12:25 pm
She still chose to stay! Shes' not someone who didn't have choices or chances to leave and find a better man who would treat her good. She not only knew, but had no problems with his entitlement complex when it benefited her and her family. She had no problems directing William's temper at the media, his family, his own friends, if it meant that she got what she wanted out of him or life in general. So no sympathy from me.

As far as I'm concerned, this marriage should stick. Don't like it, tough. William had a decade to basically get it figured out and cut her out of his life, just as Kate had the decade to get out of that drama, lead her own life, and be content. It's not like she didn't have an ability to get out. It's not like she was raised in some mafia family or in an Islamic culture where she has had no choice in how she lives her life. She had choices.

The only person who stuck WK in that situation and kept them there was themselves. HM and Charles would have been glad to see the backside of Kate and see her walk away and it's not like if William was poor and untitled, that Carole would have wanted him to stick around Kate. William could have filed a restraining order against her at any time and ordered his friends to stop letting her into their clubs and country estates.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on September 17, 2016, 07:22:31 pm
For me, Kate has never exhibited any signs of making choices or decisions that resemble a self-empowered human being.  There's a vast difference between choosing a life and taking what is offered.  All I've witnessed is acting out behavior from flashing to buying useless kitchens.  She is living at the whim, needs and expectations of other people.  William will do with her whatever is best for William.

For now, that's working in a seemingly high dysfunctional level.  The future remains very shaky I believe because William is the worst combo of weak and powerful.  In her world. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 08:10:46 pm
Kate chooses a helpless ways not just because she was programmed for it, but because she ended up choosing to be helpless, even though ironically, she can easily get strength to sustain a decade long campaign and sustain a jet set lifestyle and use the 'middle class outsider' card when she wasn't getting the social acceptance she felt entitled to. Genuinely helpless people don't do that, they don't have the ability. Foolishly she's determined to live life on her own terms now, well past the time when she had her chance at it. While dating, she was determined to create all these fantasy based constrictions, while after marriage, she's determined to have it all her own way. Meanwhile, William for some reason it very determined to do the same, but even more foolishly. Both are undermining each other, but it's the choice both have made, determined to have it all while everyone else does the grunt work and puts up with their abuse.

This marriage is deteriorating, but it's going to take some time for it to come out into the open to be honest. They have a lid on it, but the real question is, for how long? Neither has really any direction (positive) to go in once they divorce. For Kate it'll be a HUGE fall socially and otherwise and for William, what is a balding, petulant joke of a prince going to attract? Is he going to hit the clubs or the singles' scene looking for someone or attend garden parties and elegant events trying to zoom in on a successful woman stupid enough to have him?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 17, 2016, 09:58:23 pm
There are plenty of women who would have his worthless a$$ because of who he is.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 17, 2016, 10:51:27 pm
Not the kind that would be able to get him back on track or be willing to try. Like as not, he's ruined himself.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on September 17, 2016, 11:25:43 pm
If he can't or won't divorce her, yet she continues to drag the RF down and ruin the future of the monarchy then I am afraid there is only one solution.  The dark powers in this Country will ensure she meets her demise. I know that is a harsh thing to say but no-way will they ever let her loose on the general public and allow her to spill the beans on that family.  It will NEVER happen.  I did read once that William would become a very bitter man.  If something happens to his wife, that will certainly account for that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on September 18, 2016, 06:30:42 am
I'm keeping the faith that after years of embarrassing her self privately and publicly. That something will happen, maybe not tomorrow but down the line, to force Charles to refuse her at court and force a divorce.  :sob:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 18, 2016, 08:39:04 am
Val, that may be the case, but this joke of a prince is in line to be the king, so nothing and no one should be able to blackmail him and compromise the monarchy. Too bad if he's embarrased at the dumb ars situation he put himself into  surrounded by that guttersnipe family. Carole should be wondering why the queen invited her to Balmoral after all of these years. Maybe the royals are dumb but the courtiers aren't so I'm thinking that a plan to get themselves rid of all things Middleton is in play. It has to be. 
It's beyond his call if he'll divorce her or not. Look at all of the damage she's done since she married in. Look at how the Midds are just ushing themselves in and using their relationship to the royals in all they do. How many countries now don't want anything to do with the queen as thieir head of state? They're fed up with having to pay for the upkeep of a bunch of freeloaders that don't give anything back to the them and looking at what's down the line, Charles trying to push his *sleazy* wife as future queen and weak Wills lumped to his lazy, cold, limpet of a wife. Best to dump the lot now as they've become a complete joke. Divoring Waity and then shutting the Midds down should help stem more deterioration, but what would shore up the royals would be for them to be more intouch with the people and show some value for money.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 18, 2016, 09:17:28 am
The Queen is Head of State of 16 nations. Two only (Barbados and Jamaica) are raising real discussions on becoming a republic at the moment but they have been talking about that for around a decade now - so since before Kate and the Middleton's entered the family.

In other countries, such as Australia, even the republicans admit that Kate and William, along with George have pushed the republican cause backwards.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 18, 2016, 09:17:50 am
At this point the BRF is such a mess of their own that a divorce would in fact not slow any deterioration, just make it more obvious. Kate and William have inadvertently helped the public see the RF for what they have always been and frankly it's long overdue. That family has been rotten from the get-go since they let the Romanovs be slaughtered at the hands of the Bolsheviks because it wasn't good PR to have them come to England or even Scotland via a rescue.

I have every reason to believe that if William divorces, he will make a lot of people look like idiots (like Nichols and Claudia Joseph and Seward) and I am certain that the divorce will be epic, all over the internet. All over the top pages of the news websites and of course, all over the paper news as well. I do believe that they'd put ISIS on the bottom pages and it would be all over the world that Holy William and Saint Kate are not the true loves they were hyped to be.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 18, 2016, 09:25:34 am
She's still got to go and I think that thy'll use mental illness to sideline her. She seems to have lost all of her patronages snd only goes out on engagements with Wills now. The royal reporters are stupid to prop up such a mess of a person. They're just trying to save their jobs by selling the royal fairy tail.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 18, 2016, 09:59:00 am
According to the Prince of Wales website Kate is patron to 12 charities etc and the site provides the links to those charities. All of them have Kate as their patron listed so it seems they still regard her as their patron.

Her last solo engagement was at the beginning of July. Sophie has done 12 solo events since Kate did her last one and Camilla has done 25.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on September 18, 2016, 11:17:50 am
"Sophie has done 12 solo events since Kate did her last one and Camilla has done 25 "
 :tehe:
It shows how Kate is extremely unfit for the role she pursued for a decade. It show how useless Kate is, she can' t even manage a solo engagement at a charity she endorses. Also only 12 charities  :-  :o is reaqlly way too little for the wife of the heir to the heir


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 18, 2016, 12:12:33 pm
It is even worse when it is known that Beatrice has 11 patronages and doesn't do royal 'duties' at all but still goes to her charities and supports them without any acknowledgement from the media or her family.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 18, 2016, 12:19:20 pm
If Charles had any sense, he would rethink his stance on sidelining the Yorkies. I wonder if The Potato Head and Dumbo had anything to do with that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 20, 2016, 12:39:55 am
I'd love to see all the dirt that the palace has on her; it would be quite the deluge, enough to rival Fergie.

According to the Prince of Wales website Kate is patron to 12 charities etc and the site provides the links to those charities. All of them have Kate as their patron listed so it seems they still regard her as their patron.

Wouldn't know if the way she slacks off or spearheads mental health issues. Or gets into trouble all the time. She does nothing, no meetings, no appearances, no videos and frankly when she did that video soliciting help, she looked so fake so many commented about it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 20, 2016, 04:18:47 am
If Charles had any sense, he would rethink his stance on sidelining the Yorkies. I wonder if The Potato Head and Dumbo had anything to do with that.

I believe Charles first raised the idea in 1992 - William would have been 8 and Kate not on the scene so highly unlikely they had anything to do with the idea of the Yorkies not being on the royal roster.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 20, 2016, 05:50:07 am
Charles always thought himself superior to his siblings and believed he deserved special treatment. Of course he doesn't want his brother's children on the scene. I bet he was delighted when it was announced that Lady Louise and James, Viscount Severn would not be styled Princess and Prince, as male-line descendants of a monarch ought to be. And of course Anne's children Peter and Zara get no titles at all. Maybe he wants Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie to be demoted to Lady Beatrice and Lady Eugenie.

I don't think there will be a divorce, and W&K don't seem willing to step up their duties. And the royal cousins aren't going to be allowed to help out with the slack. Maybe they are preparing for the end of the monarchy?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on September 20, 2016, 06:14:20 pm
^ Charles is a snob but it does make sense not to have all the extra Royals on the payroll in modern times. But it brings up a dangerous precedent for Harry's family that I don't like and no one has explained how that's going to work. You brought up some good points too about then who is going to actually do he Firms "work"?  Because if Bill and Waity are raising their children to have their work ethic it will end the monarchy. I agree with the Queen that she has to be seen to be believed. And as those slackers get closer to the throne I see Willy wanting to do less not more.  Saying more  of his , Invasion of privacy/ I should get to live a normal life  :BS:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 20, 2016, 07:35:27 pm
Charles is being stupid. The other royals don't cause HALF the messes that the main line causes and frankly their titles and income hasn't caused them to lead scandal loaded lives. Cutting them out financially or in titles would cause a horrible shock and mainly be petty and spiteful. They're his extended family and he shouldn't think of cutting them off financially leaving them with nothing and nowhere to go. Are his aged relations supposed to just suddenly find financial help and stability? Or a new home? Is he thinking of this at all?

If Charles had any sense, he would rethink his stance on sidelining the Yorkies. I wonder if The Potato Head and Dumbo had anything to do with that.
I believe Charles first raised the idea in 1992 - William would have been 8 and Kate not on the scene so highly unlikely they had anything to do with the idea of the Yorkies not being on the royal roster.

At the time, the Windsors were struggling along, but frankly they were riding high in the favor of the tabloids and the younger generation was full of potential. So Charles and Co. likely thought that they would be able to have the younger generation handle things and of course, the young royals would in fact supposedly marry dynamic spouses and continue being hip and hawt and other various things.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on September 20, 2016, 09:15:50 pm
^
Chuck just keeps on thinking that things will just "happen" for the Windsors where it will not.
He was lucky enough to marry a power house and a PR dream(Diana).
A once in a lifetime opportunity because the Windsors don't have those qualities.
They are more like oil tankers: steadfast, stable and a bit boring.
Nothing wrong with that.
Chuck IMO needs to realize that he needs all the help he has at his disposal.
Nothing will just "happen", things need to be worked for year after year.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 21, 2016, 01:27:13 am
IMO, if they want to be as "normal" as possible, they can get real jobs and divide up the duties among the queen's grandchildren so nobody has to do 300+ appearances per year (appearances can be mostly evenings and weekends). Their cousins' kids should not do royal duties because they are great-grandchildren of a monarch (too distant) but William's kids (direct line) and Harry's kids (grandchildren of a future monarch) should be included. HM is 90, PC is also past retirement age, it's time for the younger people to step up. If they don't want to step up, I think PW should have stepped down before his kids were born and let Harry take over. Of course if he did step down, I would not be surprised if there really was a divorce. PW's treatment of Kate hasn't been the best (cheating, making fun of her, etc) so I don't think she would have stayed with him and definitely would not have married him if he wasn't the future king.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 21, 2016, 01:41:38 am
WK can't even do a hundred appearances, there is no way they'll willingly do three hundred. I think more time apart would in fact cause their marriage to fade off.

^
Chuck just keeps on thinking that things will just "happen" for the Windsors where it will not.
He was lucky enough to marry a power house and a PR dream(Diana).
A once in a lifetime opportunity because the Windsors don't have those qualities.
They are more like oil tankers: steadfast, stable and a bit boring.
Nothing wrong with that.
Chuck IMO needs to realize that he needs all the help he has at his disposal.
Nothing will just "happen", things need to be worked for year after year.

Exactly; Thing is, I think HM and Co. thought things would work out just fine in the end, so they stupidly didn't dedicate themselves to the growth and maturity of their heirs. After everything that happened, HM didn't see that her grandchildren got help, had a stable home life, and didn't at all end up putting crazy Fergie in line from being an unhealthily possessive influence. He should just recruit others in his family to handle the patronages that aren't a first priority with the senior royals.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 21, 2016, 03:59:15 am
William is close to or already topping 100 this year - before he goes to Canada where there are 32 engagements planned.
 
Not all engagements are ones where they appear in public but include times where they meet official people and attend meetings etc.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 21, 2016, 09:13:25 am
All things considered, he should be way over 100 by now. He has no other job.  :bored:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 21, 2016, 09:58:50 am
They have to keep drumming up visits to appease the complaining public who were not happy with their frequent vacations, lazy entitled ways and hiding themselves at Amner.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Snowpea on September 21, 2016, 05:31:00 pm
Not looking forward to the free photo ops they will get in Canada - but then maybe we can get some really good photos of Billy turning his back on Wasty.  :P


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 21, 2016, 06:35:03 pm
I wonder just how well this is going to go. A play-date isn't going to show the kids off to the public or basically get good PR.

William is close to or already topping 100 this year - before he goes to Canada where there are 32 engagements planned. Not all engagements are ones where they appear in public but include times where they meet official people and attend meetings etc.

We're only told about these meetings and frankly I don't believe that William meeting people should count. There's no substance and it's not like he's doing anything groundbreaking or anything non-routine.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 22, 2016, 08:12:09 am
^ Yes, I think we can't see the sprogs because these will be "private visits".


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2016, 09:53:15 pm
I wonder if this marriage is coming apart mainly because William no longer makes Kate the center of his life and he's likely tired of having to be her protector. He no longer wants to be her father figure and no longer wants to put up with her dramas and her grubbing family and her constant inability to just get on with it and do her job. As for Kate, I think she's frustrated by his lack of wanting to lead a glamorous lifestyle and wants to do more jet setting, but can't since he holds the purse strings and of course, he basically has final say since he's higher ranked. I do believe that she's frustrated by the lack of excitement she thought would be all over her and now that she's in society, there's nothing but running the household, doing duties, volunteering, and since she's not doing either, she's bored out of her mind and creates trouble to bring some excitement to her life. For her marriage was supposed to open doors to a new phase of her life and of course, end up enabling her to be a fashionista, or a photographer, or a socialite and she would be able to leave Boring Britain behind and go global. It hasn't happened and she likely blames William for it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 22, 2016, 10:45:51 pm
I wonder just how well this is going to go. A play-date isn't going to show the kids off to the public or basically get good PR.

William is close to or already topping 100 this year - before he goes to Canada where there are 32 engagements planned. Not all engagements are ones where they appear in public but include times where they meet official people and attend meetings etc.

We're only told about these meetings and frankly I don't believe that William meeting people should count. There's no substance and it's not like he's doing anything groundbreaking or anything non-routine.

Many of the other royals engagements include meetings and receiving people associated with their charities. Should it only be William's meetings that don't count or all the meetings that the different royals undertake - which is a sizeable number per year. The poster on TRF has the number of meetings this year so far at 151 out of 2543 or about 6% of all engagements. Receiveds are at 262 or 10% of the total so about 16% of all engagements tend to be the sort of one on one meeting or meeting with a group of people.

I assume that it is only William's you want not to count - not Harry's for instance?

Of course we don't know what is discussed in these meetings but as the group who are meeting or the individual being received is identified it should be noted that this is when a lot of the 'charity' work is actually done - not when they go to the visit but when they talk to the people involved.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on September 23, 2016, 09:44:45 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3802123/The-Duke-Duchess-long-distance-Prince-William-announces-solo-trip-Vietnam-just-day-Kate-reveals-plans-lone-foreign-engagement.html :Carole: :cookie: :cookie:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 23, 2016, 09:59:53 am
They think that going separately makes them look as if they are doing more work.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 23, 2016, 01:21:52 pm
Yes, they seem to. By all means it's interesting. They didn't used to do it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: cate1949 on September 23, 2016, 09:37:37 pm
He is going because of the World Wildlife conference.

But the two of them have to step it  up - first because of the age of their grandparents and especially Prince Phillip slowing down.  Second because of Brexit and the need for the UK to make trade deals.  Trade is a major reason the royals go on trips. 

Kate goes to Netherlands because the museum has been lent  paintings from the Royal Collection which are being displayed.  This is the sort of stuff the Queen or usually Charles would handle - now Kate and Will must step up.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tatiana on September 24, 2016, 03:29:03 am
  Ambassadors on trade missions usually know what they are talking about.  They should send Boris instead.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Snowpea on September 24, 2016, 03:43:16 am
Boris would ditch the meetings and head off to some watering hole. Or just run away like the wimp he is.  :shy:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 24, 2016, 07:55:57 am
^^

They certainly shouldn't even think about sending the incompetent duo to do anything concerned with trade.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 24, 2016, 08:15:24 am
They are leaking these informations for upholding people's interest.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2016, 11:14:44 am
Frankly I think they'll limp along until both will crystallize their (right now) un-articulated dissatisfaction in their marriage. Right now they seem generally disgruntled, but can't quite seem to put a finger on WHY they aren't happy and WHY things aren't going their way.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 24, 2016, 12:25:35 pm
^^

They certainly shouldn't even think about sending the incompetent duo to do anything concerned with trade.

Their role is to 'grease the wheels' not do the negotiations.

Some countries think it is good to have a royal personage come along with or before any trade negotiations take place as it makes them feel important.

In the Middle East and large parts of Asia having a royal with the negotiating team - even if just there for show - is important as it shows the country that they are important.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Snowpea on September 24, 2016, 12:50:20 pm
Maybe they are waiting to break up at a time when people would even care - they don't know so don't know when that could be.  :James: I am sure Wasty and Council Caro will want to get as much leverage as possible.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 24, 2016, 02:37:30 pm
Willy The Oh So Weak is not about to give up his a$$ kissing sycophant Potato Head or his Yummy Mummy The Hag Known as The Viper. Ever.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on September 24, 2016, 06:38:07 pm
^

He just couldn't cope without Ma's cheesy toast and late night counselling sessions over hot cocoa with her viper tongue clucking sympathetically.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2016, 10:58:45 pm
^^
They certainly shouldn't even think about sending the incompetent duo to do anything concerned with trade.

Their role is to 'grease the wheels' not do the negotiations.

Some countries think it is good to have a royal personage come along with or before any trade negotiations take place as it makes them feel important.

In the Middle East and large parts of Asia having a royal with the negotiating team - even if just there for show - is important as it shows the country that they are important.

The royals are usually well educated, heavily educated in international trade.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 24, 2016, 11:10:29 pm
The Duke of Dumb and his Moronic Potato Head don't know Jack Shyte about international trade. And she doesn't know Jack Shyte about proper etiquette.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2016, 11:21:11 pm
I do believe that when William becomes frustrated by not being able to be taken seriously or go anywhere where something major is happening, he will get angry and fed up. Granted, HE is the problem, but apparently he won't take responsibility for it. He'll blame her instead of the press and I am certain that he'll become hateful during any kind of divorce. Foolishly, divorcing her won't make up for his lack of qualifications and of course, won't get him invited to serious conferences behind the scenes, but he won't realize that. As for Kate, she MIGHT leave him if she thinks that leaving him will enable her to lead a freer life (as if she isn't leading one already) and if she thinks she can land a billionaire. She might in fact end up leaving when her siblings marry. Pippa is going to marry well and once James is foisted on some unsuspecting headcase, Kate might think she now owes her family nothing and might walk. Much of the reason her family pressured and pushed (and Kate chose) her towards William was so they could get bucks and a title.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 25, 2016, 04:16:22 pm
Kate will never walk and he will never divorce. Ever.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on September 25, 2016, 04:31:10 pm
^ India, never say never. Let's hope suddenly Willy will realize it.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: windsor2 on September 25, 2016, 05:14:01 pm
It should be clearly evident by now that she's doing nothing but harming the monarchy with her flashing and lack of sense. Wheather he divorces her should now be out of his hands. He's not fit for purpose. Covering up their cold marriage can't go on for too long, imo.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Ariel on September 25, 2016, 08:32:54 pm
at this point it is time for us to take the blame off of Kate. It is William's responsibility to become worthy of being a king with or without Kate. Kate being lame is not the problem, the problem is that William is too.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 25, 2016, 09:15:49 pm
I blame William, but the difference is, that Kate sought him out and basically pushed her way in nonstop until he broke and gave her the ring. William was born to this and to suggest that walking away will magically suddenly solve his problems is a myth. He knows nothing else and to lose all of that would be a huge adjustment. The princesses of the Japanese monarchy are groomed since birth to be normal and not rely on their status for money and a lifestyle. William's life is all he knows. Kate however was never royal and apparently refuses to get it together and stop making one mess after another. She refuses to pull it together and basically be a support system instead of making him her new father figure. This isn't about being fair (monarchy never is), this is about how a simple little twit pushed her way in, disrupted everything, and has basically done nothing but play games with people's lives, reputations, and careers. NOTHING made her stay in William's life, she could have walked away at any point.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on September 25, 2016, 11:37:17 pm
Willy The Dumbest and The Weak has a tiger by the tail in The Viper and His Potato Head. He does not know what to do with both. He hasn't a clue how to handle them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on September 26, 2016, 12:04:35 am
^^
They certainly shouldn't even think about sending the incompetent duo to do anything concerned with trade.

Their role is to 'grease the wheels' not do the negotiations.

Some countries think it is good to have a royal personage come along with or before any trade negotiations take place as it makes them feel important.

In the Middle East and large parts of Asia having a royal with the negotiating team - even if just there for show - is important as it shows the country that they are important.

The royals are usually well educated, heavily educated in international trade.

The Queen never went to school and she has done her job brilliantly for over 60 years.
Charles has a degree in History and he has done his job fantastically - helping over 800,000 people get into businesses or other endeavours.
Anne has only a couple of A levels and yet she has been involved in overseas missions etc for over 40 years.
Andrew was the trade ambassador for a decade, taking over from the Duke of Kent who did it for a couple of decades - neither were educated in trade or politics but in the military.

The evidence thus is that the royals aren't heavily educated in international trade - or anything - but they do what they have to do well - 'grease the wheels'. Their role is to do the 'sucking up' as kids would say while the real negotiations are going on behind the scenes. To do otherwise would be for the royals to be involved in politics. That might be acceptable for the European royals but isn't for the British royals. They aren't allowed to have any political role - other than opening parliament and being informed about what is going on.

Before any trip the royals are heavily briefed, in person, by the relevant ministers of the Crown, about the purpose of the trade mission but other than that they aren't invovled.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tatiana on September 26, 2016, 05:23:07 am
  Charles did not do very well with his A levels, and his university degree was a mere scraping by.   

      Anne seems to be the smartest and the courageous one of of all of Elizabeth II's children.

        What William has learned is anyone's guess.  :June: ???


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Ariel on September 26, 2016, 06:33:30 am
Key, she didn't but she wouldn't have succeeded if William did not allow it. His brother showed that it is possible to elegantly boot a pushy woman. So - now Kate is William's problem. But -him divorcing her is not going to do the trick. He's showing more and more that he's too lazy to do anything. Whether he's with Kate or not - he's got to show he's fit for the role. He hasn't yet.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on September 26, 2016, 08:57:28 am
Even if you're not the smartest person, the key is to surround yourself with intelligent people. People you can learn from, who will help you get your job done. Formal education isn't the only way to educate oneself, never has been. In the past, royals had private tutors and advisers. Now they have advisers and there are online options for taking classes or just simply looking something up. High school/University is just a small portion of one's life, and I'd hope that people continue learning even after they get their degrees.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: BostonLibby on September 26, 2016, 04:01:21 pm
Well said Leogirl!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2016, 06:59:43 pm
^^
They certainly shouldn't even think about sending the incompetent duo to do anything concerned with trade.

Their role is to 'grease the wheels' not do the negotiations.

Some countries think it is good to have a royal personage come along with or before any trade negotiations take place as it makes them feel important.

In the Middle East and large parts of Asia having a royal with the negotiating team - even if just there for show - is important as it shows the country that they are important.

The royals are usually well educated, heavily educated in international trade.
The Queen never went to school and she has done her job brilliantly for over 60 years.
Charles has a degree in History and he has done his job fantastically - helping over 800,000 people get into businesses or other endeavours.
Anne has only a couple of A levels and yet she has been involved in overseas missions etc for over 40 years.
Andrew was the trade ambassador for a decade, taking over from the Duke of Kent who did it for a couple of decades - neither were educated in trade or politics but in the military.

The evidence thus is that the royals aren't heavily educated in international trade - or anything - but they do what they have to do well - 'grease the wheels'. Their role is to do the 'sucking up' as kids would say while the real negotiations are going on behind the scenes. To do otherwise would be for the royals to be involved in politics. That might be acceptable for the European royals but isn't for the British royals. They aren't allowed to have any political role - other than opening parliament and being informed about what is going on.

Before any trip the royals are heavily briefed, in person, by the relevant ministers of the Crown, about the purpose of the trade mission but other than that they aren't invovled.

How much of that is WK doing? This marriage can't last if WK don't do their job. Or any job,


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 04, 2016, 04:24:21 pm
This is on Yahoo News Spanish front page and appears to have been also on the cover of a French publication called "Royaute

 
https://es.vida-estilo.yahoo.com/kate-middleton-y-el-pr%C3%ADncipe-guillermo-se-124720133.html   

Translation from Google translator

¿Kate Middleton y el Príncipe Guillermo se divorcian?

Amid the travel of the Dukes of Cambridge to Canada they have jumped all alarms on your marital status. The French magazine "royauté" has surprised us with its new cover. According to this publication, Kate Middleton and Prince William are going through a major crisis in their marriage.
 
The publication goes further, even speaks deposible divorce in sight between the Dukes of Cambridge. The magazine refers to a "Great anguish of the couple".A limit situation, according to the gala publication, would be aggravated "by the insanely jealous of Kate and the pressure is becoming increasingly difficult to bear.
 
"Inside story, the magazine says Kate Middleton as a very worried woman and would supposedly controlling her husband. According point in "royauté" Prince William would be very overwhelmed and tired by the alleged attempt to Kate always control his every move.In addition, the magazine also emphasizes that the thinness of Kate Middleton would have to do with this situation nerves and marital crisis.
 
The truth is that the photographs that come to us from current trip to Canada of the Dukes of Cambridge does not seem to convey that concern. In the instant there is no hint of this severe crisis alleged partner.
Kate and William are seen smiling and relaxed. You see them loving each other, even. But we must also take into account its monarchical status could lead to dissimulate publicly what actually happens in private.
 
 
On the other hand, the Dukes have recently completed five years of marriage. A border, five years, which, they say, often carried several marriages ahead.
 
# Marriage Crisis? #kate Middleton prince william # # monarchy

Can´t say I noticed a warm change in body language, they played out a charade. 

Interesting in French and Spanish news.




Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 04, 2016, 04:50:08 pm
Just found these on Getty, not quite the image the press think they portrayed as loving couple  -   how things change when they think the camera is not on them.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610821566

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610813102

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-speaks-with-guests-at-the-young-and-picture-id610466244

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610813126


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 04, 2016, 05:08:39 pm
Both look like they're in their late forties.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 04, 2016, 06:00:27 pm
Well we know that they were 'instructed' to look lovey dovey as leaked by those in the know.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 04, 2016, 06:26:27 pm
^^^These photos where the b*tch is unaware that the camera is on her, show her true evil character. Can you imagine Broken Bill having to sleep with that thing at night. I would be afraid to close my eyes thinking that she was going to whip out a knife and do a little slashing. Awful woman.  FREE WILLY.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on October 04, 2016, 07:27:16 pm
Foreign media is more likely to report first on things anyway, we cannot say that the Brit media has true freedom.
And some of these points actually mirror their relationship prior to marriage, so hardly seem far-fetched or overly new (reports of Kate's controlling behaviour and jealousy).
Getting my popcorn ready!! Hope we have something interesting happen!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 04, 2016, 07:58:16 pm
^^^These photos where the b*tch is unaware that the camera is on her, show her true evil character. Can you imagine Broken Bill having to sleep with that thing at night. I would be afraid to close my eyes thinking that she was going to whip out a knife and do a little slashing. Awful woman.  FREE WILLY.

Let him free himself.

He got himself into that relationship, he took her back instead of going to the courtiers or MI6 (just the same in ruthlessness) and could have launched a PR battering against her by dragging her past into the public arena and then having his friends ban her from their clubs, but he chose to be a worthless doormat. He chose to be a puppy instead of a prince. HE CHOSE to be a 'nice guy' rather than a man. Gutless wimp. During the breakup he suffered a drop in PR, but all he had to do is ask the rhetorical question "why can't I break up with a girlfriend like everyone else" and pointed out that he didn't owe her a ring and didn't have to marry anyone he didn't want to. He could have called the police if she was stalking him.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on October 04, 2016, 08:42:12 pm
^ :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on October 04, 2016, 09:12:03 pm
 Great finds GB. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on October 05, 2016, 12:00:54 am
Foreign media is more likely to report first on things anyway, we cannot say that the Brit media has true freedom.
And some of these points actually mirror their relationship prior to marriage, so hardly seem far-fetched or overly new (reports of Kate's controlling behaviour and jealousy).
Getting my popcorn ready!! Hope we have something interesting happen!

Weren't the French press the ones that reported Charles & Diana having marriage trouble before everything hit the fan?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on October 05, 2016, 06:28:19 am
The first reports I saw about trouble in that marriage was in a British paper around November 1981 - certainly before Christmas that year.

The French press also reported that The Queen was pregnant on average twice a year between 1952 and 1959 before the announcement of her pregnancy with Andrew.

Guessing really.

Some time one of these differing stories may come true: she is pregnant with number 3, they are getting a divorce, they are about to become King and Queen etc. All in the foreign press at the moment.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on October 05, 2016, 07:45:16 am
Just found these on Getty, not quite the image the press think they portrayed as loving couple  -   how things change when they think the camera is not on them.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610821566

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610813102

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-speaks-with-guests-at-the-young-and-picture-id610466244

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/catherine-duchess-of-cambridge-and-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-picture-id610813126

^ Yes, great finds, talkative pictures.

"Let him free himself.

He got himself into that relationship, he took her back instead of going to the courtiers or MI6 (just the same in ruthlessness) and could have launched a PR battering against her by dragging her past into the public arena and then having his friends ban her from their clubs, but he chose to be a worthless doormat. He chose to be a puppy instead of a prince. HE CHOSE to be a 'nice guy' rather than a man. Gutless wimp. During the breakup he suffered a drop in PR, but all he had to do is ask the rhetorical question "why can't I break up with a girlfriend like everyone else" and pointed out that he didn't owe her a ring and didn't have to marry anyone he didn't want to. He could have called the police if she was stalking him."

^ Agree, Kuei Fei but I think William The Week is still coward for doing it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on October 05, 2016, 10:54:46 am
Wimpo can barely hide his disgust.
http://65.media.tumblr.com/6194a585cb9e94d7a3c7eee15460c70a/tumblr_oeib3gKBQz1qmw26bo2_500.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyAva on October 05, 2016, 06:39:53 pm
Good photos. she really does have a mean face. I've never seen more of reason to bring veils back. That's an old style trick she could bring back.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 05, 2016, 08:19:32 pm
When the press exposed Uncle Gary it should have been a wake-up call and he should have ended it. Bringing around to a man who traffics in drugs and girls and he didn't have a problem with it? Most normal guys would have filed a restraining order against her after that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on October 06, 2016, 09:09:21 am
^ ...which is exactly why some people believe there is a blackmail aspect to this relationship. Maybe he was involved with something he doesn't want the public to know about?  :-X


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on October 06, 2016, 10:07:47 am
^ That' s exactly what I think
Maybe Will has been a "client" of Gary  :-X ?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on October 06, 2016, 12:02:22 pm
^More than likely


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 06, 2016, 02:06:35 pm
Broken Bill is a weak, ineffectual, stupid, gullible man.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on October 06, 2016, 02:24:58 pm
^ That' s exactly what I think
Maybe Will has been a "client" of Gary  :-X ?

^ Likely and this is an ace for them against Willy, who is kept in check by it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 06, 2016, 02:40:41 pm
^ That' s exactly what I think
Maybe Will has been a "client" of Gary  :-X ?

^ Likely and this is an ace for them against Willy, who is kept in check by it.
But WHY??? People including princes have done and continue to do worse. They  would only have something on him if he CHOOSES  to believe they have something on him. And he has much on them so it has to be something else.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 06, 2016, 02:43:58 pm
Broken Bill does not have the strength to unload this evil witch unless he goes to Charles which i am sure he doesn't want to do.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2016, 08:23:08 pm
Charles should just laugh in William's face if William comes to him for help. William let Kate insult HM, who is also Charles' mother and frankly Kate has been enabled by William from day one they started porking each other. A serpent's tooth, William and frankly HE should broom the witch out so no one can be blamed other than William himself.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on October 06, 2016, 11:11:42 pm
Where there's a Will, a Katastrophe is sure to follow.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 06, 2016, 11:26:40 pm
^ :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2016, 12:08:18 am
Getting rid of Kate won't bring his hair back, it won't bring back the lost years, it won't undo all the scandals. It's not going to do anything for him. A divorce won't make him the most eligible bachelor in the world again, it won't make him young again. He gains nothing but an ex-wife if he divorces her and an even bigger drama. As an ex-wife, she'll be worse than Fergie. He can't go back to before he announced his engagement and he can't undo the desecration of the Diamond Jubilee year and can't undo the vicious smear campaign the Midds did or their intrusion into the Jubilee float.

How on earth could he crawl back from that? The half a decade's worth of slacking off, the nastiness, the lawsuits against the press, the loss of free legal services. So much lost and trashed in the rampage against everyone around him. Then there was Harry getting caught up in his mess, along with his cousins. So go figure, he's supposed to be able to shrug all that off and start a new life?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 07, 2016, 12:16:03 am
Getting rid of Kate won't bring his hair back, it won't bring back the lost years, it won't undo all the scandals. It's not going to do anything for him. A divorce won't make him the most eligible bachelor in the world again, it won't make him young again. He gains nothing but an ex-wife if he divorces her and an even bigger drama. As an ex-wife, she'll be worse than Fergie. He can't go back to before he announced his engagement and he can't undo the desecration of the Diamond Jubilee year and can't undo the vicious smear campaign the Midds did or their intrusion into the Jubilee float.

How on earth could he crawl back from that? The half a decade's worth of slacking off, the nastiness, the lawsuits against the press, the loss of free legal services. So much lost and trashed in the rampage against everyone around him. Then there was Harry getting caught up in his mess, along with his cousins. So go figure, he's supposed to be able to shrug all that off and start a new life?
No offence meant KF but why so you constantly argue against PW getting a divorce/annulment? It is fair and just. He deserves that. KM doesn't deserve to be leeched onto the man and continue getting the goodies so to speak. The British deserves better tha  this rot... why?  :flower:  PW can come back from this and gain respectability but just not from you. He deserves to be happy. Do you? :flower: I am not trying to be mean only just curious and a little bit shocked is all.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on October 07, 2016, 02:28:03 am
He is too lazy to gain respectability. I don't think he'll get a divorce. He was too lazy to pull himself together to meet suitable women back in 2007 and hasn't changed since then. I think he must like Kate at least on some level or he wouldn't have taken her back. Her behavior is nothing new.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2016, 02:45:19 am
He had a free ride and happy life since the day he was born. Perfect princely looks, wealth, title, and had EVERY opportunity for a flawless life. He threw it all away on Kate when he could have married ANYONE he wanted. You don't have all he had, throw it away with both hands, and then think he should just shrug his shoulders, end the marriage, and then walk away scot-free. In his twenties he could have done ANYTHING and he chose to throw it all away. Over some trouble-making nobody who basically used him from day one. He had HUNDREDS of warning signs and could have gotten out and could have set an example to men in bad relationships with controlling women.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 07, 2016, 03:26:45 am
^yes, KF, he DOES get to walk away from this so-called marriage. He DOES get to get married again and for love this time. He simply does and I hope he doesn't listen to anyone who tells him he doesn't get to. He does and has been long overdue. He simply needs to get the job done. The end. It is that simple. PW doesn't lose basic human rights because he was born a prince and he doesnwowe anyone ro suffer just because he was pressurised, etc, into fycking up. And yes he can be an inspiration to many people to stand down and actually do the right thing. And be honest about it. How very rare indeed.

And I know there is much, much that happened which let to his decisions that hasn't been made pubic. It will come out.  I know I would very much like to hear what PW has to say about his deeds.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2016, 04:09:29 am
Has William at any point made one SINGLE sacrifice for his role or his nation? He wanted to quit school, but he was pressured to stay for the sake of following through on something. So he moves off campus and makes a security mess after the efforts of securing his dorm room. He doesn't like the hard work of soldiering, but decides to half-a$$ it since day one. Shirks appearances for clubbing and jet setting. So why should he be able to just walk away from his marriage, since he decided that the woman he knew for a decade suddenly no longer suits him?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on October 07, 2016, 05:04:40 am
^ Because he's William, and Daddy or Granny will get him out of every mess he can possibly get into. He's a special snowflake.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Miss Hathaway on October 07, 2016, 05:16:56 am
Charles should just laugh in William's face if William comes to him for help. William let Kate insult HM, who is also Charles' mother and frankly Kate has been enabled by William from day one they started porking each other. A serpent's tooth, William and frankly HE should broom the witch out so no one can be blamed other than William himself.

Charles had best keep his laughs to himself.  Charles insulted HM when he undermined the monarchy by divorcing a popular princess and marrying his mistress.  Charles plays a large part in the way William turned out because Charles was too busy forcing his mistress into "public acceptance" at a time when his boys needed real help. 

If Charles could get divorced and remarried, then so can William.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on October 07, 2016, 05:53:19 am
I, too, do not understand the concept that if you have married the wrong person, you're stuck in that situation until the end of your life.  Maybe 400 years ago, but not today.  What a ghastly thought.

Once PW divests himself of all the Middletons, he will undoubtedly be welcomed wholeheartedly into the bosom of his blood family. 

But he does need to get rid of them.  His entitled attitude, combined with the Middletons pushing to be more royal than the RF, will cause this House of Cards to collapse.  They're not in as secure a position as they think they are.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on October 07, 2016, 06:12:43 am
It's a good exercise for me when looking at where this marriage has developed, so far, to revisit the original engagement interview video, which I watched again tonight.  The shorter, 17 minute one and a couple of things pop out to me now.

In addition, and I will speak for myself here and my own experience, it is important to remind myself that sometimes we don't truly listen to what the other person is saying and realize that a great deal of that is not ever going to change.  There are good intentions at that stage but, ultimately, in retrospect, my biggest marital problems were easy to trace back to the very beginning and not seeing things as they were, not what I wished they would be.  

So, what was actually stated by  William vs Kate were:

1.  He stated that they had thought about this and weighed all the pros and cons beforehand and that marriage depended upon her receiving as much advance warning as possible about the pitfalls of such a public life and its demands.

2.  Kate only stated that she was shocked and surprised at the engagement but reinforced many times how much she leans on her own family and that she would "do her best".

3.  William says again that he wanted to enjoy the "friendship" first and then show her how things would be afterwards as much as possible but would see how things are "after".

4.  Kate merely giggled at that.

5.  The cursed Big Blue:  William had no idea what kind of stone it was but wanted to remember his mother every day this way.  He was very clear that she would be "in massive trouble" if she didn't take good care of it.

6.  Not once did I hear the word Love.

My takeaway on all of this is that I do believe that William felt a certain comfort level, at that point, that she had some idea of what would be expected of her, that her family was a source of strength and unity to him at that time, that this was no big love story but a practical arrangement after being with someone for a long time.

No woman, newly engaged, should ever start off not thinking that her engagement ring is not hers and hers alone.  It's almost as if he is letting her try it on to see if she'll eventually grow into it.

However, he makes it clear several times that the long view was to meld into his world, that he got that and that she would work hard to achieve that goal.

All I got from her was that she was close to her family, acted surprised that this happened and that she had been with him a long time and they had worked through "problems" effectively in the past and would, again, do her best.

Nowhere did I hear anything of shared goals, shared inter family dynamics, nor any sense that they were there for each other.  They were not even close to being on the same wave length.  Any pre-marital counselor would've seen the warning signs ahead.  

What I see now is a creeping paralysis that has set in between the two that reflects clearly on their utter lack of understanding of each other's world view.  Maybe a detente will keep this marriage intact on paper but I would be shocked if I discovered that they were happy with this setup in any way, at this point.  It's right there to see in the rear view mirror.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on October 07, 2016, 07:13:54 am
^ In your summary you came to the point very well. These are the main problems. Waity failed "doing her best" or if she tried then it isn't enough in RF. I don't know how Willy "showed her how things would be afterwards". And where? At their dates, or at parties drinking together? I think they just talked at random. I missed their love story, too. Probably it was out of the question. Willy happened to get into the Midds family. He liked it because it filled into the gape of his life. He undertook for this marriage but I don't know why. Perhaps by then he has been manipulated by the Midds. Unfortunately it was written on the wall, this marriage was condemned to death. Now they get even with it and smart for it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 07, 2016, 07:40:32 am
If they hadn't managed to chase wasty off the only other solution would to have been to put Ma and her ghastly mooching family on a nonreturnable rocket to Mars.  Waity may have stood just a minute chance then of making a go of it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2016, 08:19:09 am
The real issue is behavior.

Kate doesn't get it that as anyone moves up in the world, their behavior has to change to suit the new circumstances. Kate doesn't get it that she made a lot of enemies on her way to the top, along with those who were wary of her in the first place. Instead of going out of her way to make them at least feel comfortable being around her, she instead insisted that things be done her way and with her family in the thick of things.

She isn't at all going to cut her family out since her family helped put her there. Her family is only collecting the dues that Kate owes them for her advancement. If not for them, I think Kate would have been too stupid to continue her climb. I don't believe that her family will EVER let her forget that they helped her get to where she is and she owed them perks and titles and access as payment. Nothing is for free from that family.

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What I see now is a creeping paralysis that has set in between the two that reflects clearly on their utter lack of understanding of each other's world view.  Maybe a detente will keep this marriage intact on paper but I would be shocked if I discovered that they were happy with this setup in any way, at this point.  It's right there to see in the rear view mirror.

Thing is, neither understands the consequences of their actions; Kate only understands consequences in the immediate sphere while William seems to see things on a broader level, but the thing is, he keeps having to narrow his mind to understand how she sees things. This has been a majorly bad influence on his position and has done a huge amount of damage. For some reason, he embraced settling with her instead of cutting her loose and exploring the wider world and trying to be happy with someone else. I think both have given up and while Kate was determined to land him, William gave up on finding someone and basically gave her the ring to get her to shut up and get off his back.

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6.  Not once did I hear the word Love.

My takeaway on all of this is that I do believe that William felt a certain comfort level, at that point, that she had some idea of what would be expected of her, that her family was a source of strength and unity to him at that time, that this was no big love story but a practical arrangement after being with someone for a long time.

No woman, newly engaged, should ever start off not thinking that her engagement ring is not hers and hers alone.  It's almost as if he is letting her try it on to see if she'll eventually grow into it.

However, he makes it clear several times that the long view was to meld into his world, that he got that and that she would work hard to achieve that goal.

All I got from her was that she was close to her family, acted surprised that this happened and that she had been with him a long time and they had worked through "problems" effectively in the past and would, again, do her best.

Nowhere did I hear anything of shared goals, shared inter family dynamics, nor any sense that they were there for each other.  They were not even close to being on the same wave length.  Any pre-marital counselor would've seen the warning signs ahead. 

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6.  Not once did I hear the word Love.

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My takeaway on all of this is that I do believe that William felt a certain comfort level, at that point, that she had some idea of what would be expected of her, that her family was a source of strength and unity to him at that time, that this was no big love story but a practical arrangement after being with someone for a long time.

He loves/loved what she represented; homey values, undemanding interpersonal relationships, and an uncomplicated life. Where he could let his guard down and basically end up leading a content, straightforward life. It's what she symbolizes, not what IS. She is in his view the innocent middle class girl and not like the titled girls who for some reason symbolize to him the evilness and 'unfairness' of his upbringing. For some reason even the most virginal well raised young lady from the shires would seem more devilish and materialistic rather than Kate, who clearly isn't interested in him because he is a regular guy.

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However, he makes it clear several times that the long view was to meld into his world, that he got that and that she would work hard to achieve that goal.

Thing is, fitting in isn't supposed to be work, it's supposed to come natural. If she has had to work and still isn't unreservedly accepted, then something is wrong and she shouldn't be there. I am certain that she's going to continue to be considered an outsider.

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All I got from her was that she was close to her family, acted surprised that this happened and that she had been with him a long time and they had worked through "problems" effectively in the past and would, again, do her best.

Nowhere did I hear anything of shared goals, shared inter family dynamics, nor any sense that they were there for each other.  They were not even close to being on the same wave length.  Any pre-marital counselor would've seen the warning signs ahead. 

I think that you're dead on. Most newly engaged couples would be almost ditzy with love and happiness, but also contentment. William didn't talk about how crazy he was about Kate and Kate wasn't talking about how she had adored William and had been out of her mind happy when they started dating and didn't list a number of positive qualities. She was acting like a dorky fangirl who had landed the lead singer of a pop band. As for the grand love story, this was hardly something where there were obstacles. William wasn't threatened with being disinherited and Kate wasn't a middle class commoner in the context that she had to work her way through school and didn't jet set all over the place. She was well used to pampering and she obviously had no complications in her courtship. Her family were not down to earth types at all.

As for Kate, this is a practical arrangement. If William did not have a title (criteria one), huge bank account (criteria two), and numerous estates (criteria three), she would not have given him the time of day or at all acknowledged his existence. She wasn't in love with William for his personality and she wasn't in love with the belief that she could ever love unreservedly. I don't think she has that ability. Pippa's vaunted checklist is just a same list as Kate, hence WHY Pippa went after the titles first and has only now settled on James Matthews. Kate chose a long time ago to forgo any chance at honest love and just go for the titles. She chose this back in 2007. I wonder if William is willing to realize this at all.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 07, 2016, 08:19:41 am
^Agree to a point, but in truth I do not see council cath operating without councl caro.  She has not got a clue about how the world works, she is like a Stepford Daughter, council caro presses the buttons and off she toddles.  I think when does what she is told, and does get angry at times, and when she does you can see by her facial expressions that she has lost the plot, looks evil and maniacal, but I think she needs to get to that point first, and recently the gaps in between are getting closer.  A few good photos from the Canada trip, where you could plainly seen she was well angry and would have given anything to walk away.

I think that maybe they were "friends" with benefits, but a love match, no way.  The way she used to look at him, which most of us took as looking at him "lovingly"  --  having looked back at photos she was more like a kid, eager for his approval and looking to make sure she got it, which most of the time she did not.  He is lazy, and probably did not realise that he needed to work hard to get her to "meld" into his family.  Being  a Stepford Daughter first and foremost did not bode well for her role as a Stepford Wife, and the former won the day.  

How could anyone marry into the rf and expect to break old traditions.  She expected bill medd to take on her family traditions and sink down to their level.  She does not appear to have made any effort to get along with the rf, she just wanted to rip bill medd away from them, closet him with her and the medds, and two fingers to anyone else.  At the same time she wanted to retain all perks, benefits and luxuries that the rf provide.  

That, I am sorry to say, was no way to start a marriage.

Great post Yooper, excellent and so true   :thumbsup:.   Amazing what we see with hindsight, and I bet bill medd sees a lot of that in his mind.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 07, 2016, 09:27:13 am
She just wants to do things her way and basically not follow rules or bother being part of a family. She wants the security of the title and the freedom to lead a responsibility free life. As for why marry in to break traditions, look at how she went to school and didn't use her degree. Yet, thing is, William is the same, he lives on his hype of being a hip young 'with it' royal who prefers to basically shun the protection of protocol.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 07, 2016, 01:43:59 pm
Two great posts Yooper and KF. If only the Thick Planked One would see the light and deal with the abscess known as all thing Middleton.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 08, 2016, 11:27:57 pm
Here's what I suggest:

If William wants to divorce Kate, he will step down from the succession first. That way, instead of ripping the monarchy apart and creating yet another titled ex, he will instead just leave Kate "Mrs. Catherine Windsor" and be done with it. He can go about his life idly, not damaging the dynasty and monarchy, and he can live his life of self pity all he wants without harming his nation. It will also neutralize the Middletons for good and if the sprogs are of a surrogate, those can be removed and placed in homes where they'll be wanted and loved for themselves.

He has no business having it both ways. Because of the kids, Kate will never be out of his life and it's obvious that William won't make a good choice over a second spouse since his decision making process is clearly not suited to his position. He can't even stand up to his pushy in-laws and can't stand up to his wife. He can't even get himself motivated to work or do anything, or at least stay out of trouble. He's a mess and his life is a mess and it's obvious that he hates his position and so the cost of a divorce should be that he steps out of the succession.

There's a price for everything and he's not been paying his dues.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rosella on October 09, 2016, 05:32:30 am
William stepping out of the succession wouldn't automatically mean that he would no longer be the Duke of Cambridge or an HRH. Prince William would remain Prince William, no matter what!

The Duke of Winsor remained an HRH and Prince Edward before he was given the Dukedom of Windsor. And that was after an abdication! You can't really 'de-Prince' a son born to the Prince of Wales, and in the UK wives, even divorced wives, retain their husband's titles and stylings.

Therefore, if William merely stepped out of the succession and divorced Kate, (either before or after he'd done it, doesn't matter, ) Kate would still be Catherine the Duchess of Cambridge after the divorce, or, if the sovereign pulled his dukedom, (hardly likely IMHO,) then she would, as a divorced lady, be Princess William.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on October 09, 2016, 08:45:26 am
Very odd that titles count as last names in the UK. Keeping a husband's name is one thing: you can, in theory, legally change your name to whatever you want, so it really doesn't matter what name they keep after the divorce. Husband's name? Maiden name? Made up name? But I don't think you can go down to the courthouse and add whatever title you want. (Unless you go to a university that lets you choose your pronoun and then you can make people refer to you as "His/Her Majesty"  :tehe:) Titles should go to the current holder, not divorced people, not people who stepped down, and especially not hangers-on who need to find something productive to do and move on with their lives.  :thumbsdown:  And what about the estates that come with titles? If the wife gets divorced she keeps the title but when the ex husband sells it a few years later, can she still keep it as part of her divorce settlement? It gets to be too much.

This whole "equality" thing is silly. People are not "equal" and it is not realistic to pretend they are. "Equal" people do not live in large estates with nannies, staff and guards paid for by the taxpayers. Titled people are privileged, but of course to whom more is given more is expected... which is why divorce or no, William and Kate really need to step up and do more or step down and live as private citizens (PW has the fortune left to him by his mother, so it's not like he has no money to live on even if he doesn't work a day in his life)... no more idle days.  :thumbsdown:

I still don't see PW and KM ever divorcing. William's pride is too strong to admit there is something wrong, and Kate invested too many years of her life to ever let go. She was also humiliated many times, PW making fun of her intelligence, treating her like a sex object (telling friends he has "sex waiting for [him]"), cheating on her. I also don't think her family would support her getting a divorce. They spent a LOT of money to put Kate in the right places, and even encouraged her to take him back after he cheated on her (Bonfire Night kiss got a cheer from her family when a normal family would have told her to kick him to the curb and would NOT have invited him in the first place). No divorce unless it's ordered and even then I don't know if they'd listen. Very stubborn the both of them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on October 09, 2016, 08:53:56 am
I wonder if Willy dares to take this step. Diana wanted to divorce, I don't know what about Charles.  :cookie:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 09, 2016, 10:34:11 am
^^

Determined old Ma was was even on the phone giving him syrupy voiced counselling.  Apparently she used the ruse 'just phoning to see if you are alright' etc etc and he was too weak not to take the call.  There is no way the Midds would let him go so everyone is still hoping HM will step in.  They are still walking on eggshells though re Diana, even after all this time.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 09, 2016, 03:08:24 pm
HM will not step in. She's so ineffectual that she is going to leave her throne to Queen Council Carol who is totally running Broken Bill now. What a bunch of worthless weak losers.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: logically on October 09, 2016, 03:49:47 pm
Anytime a wife really starts making over a husband to make him into what she wants/envisions means she doesn't like what she wants.  Kate is fed up with him not looking cool and hip and rich.  She wants her husband to look like all the rich boys her sister hangs out with.  She wants him to be someone else.  I think there is trouble and frustration if she is starting to make him over into what she always wanted.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 09, 2016, 06:16:45 pm
She wants William to look like a star, a pop star prince, not a genuine future king. She would love to be the center of attention and would love to have William be the hottest piece on the red carpet market. Yet he's not. He's balding, aged, and prefers a solid country life and she likely wants to go back to being the golden girl who got the golden prince. Not how her life is right now. It's her addiction to this that is ruining her marriage.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on October 09, 2016, 07:58:09 pm
"She wants William to look like a star, a pop star prince, not a genuine future king."
That' s the point.
Will and kate are acting just like celebrities, but their role is totally different, it' s somewhat a political role and if they don' t change their attitude I have my doubt about the future of the Monarchy.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 09, 2016, 08:08:08 pm
Very odd that titles count as last names in the UK. Keeping a husband's name is one thing: you can, in theory, legally change your name to whatever you want, so it really doesn't matter what name they keep after the divorce. Husband's name? Maiden name? Made up name? But I don't think you can go down to the courthouse and add whatever title you want. (Unless you go to a university that lets you choose your pronoun and then you can make people refer to you as "His/Her Majesty"  :tehe:) Titles should go to the current holder, not divorced people, not people who stepped down, and especially not hangers-on who need to find something productive to do and move on with their lives.  :thumbsdown:  And what about the estates that come with titles? If the wife gets divorced she keeps the title but when the ex husband sells it a few years later, can she still keep it as part of her divorce settlement? It gets to be too much.

This whole "equality" thing is silly. People are not "equal" and it is not realistic to pretend they are. "Equal" people do not live in large estates with nannies, staff and guards paid for by the taxpayers. Titled people are privileged, but of course to whom more is given more is expected... which is why divorce or no, William and Kate really need to step up and do more or step down and live as private citizens (PW has the fortune left to him by his mother, so it's not like he has no money to live on even if he doesn't work a day in his life)... no more idle days.  :thumbsdown:

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They spent a LOT of money to put Kate in the right places, and even encouraged her to take him back after he cheated on her (Bonfire Night kiss got a cheer from her family when a normal family would have told her to kick him to the curb and would NOT have invited him in the first place). No divorce unless it's ordered and even then I don't know if they'd listen. Very stubborn the both of them.

As for basic human rights, well, William can walk away from his title if he wants the same rights as anyone else. He has no business basically thinking that it's okay for him to kick untitled, poor people in the face and then ask for them to want him to lead a happy life. IF Kate had not had parents paying her way, he wouldn't have had her back and he would have ended up writing her off as a sad, desperate nobody who didn't have a life of her own and was just looking for a free ride. I think even Kate knew this and that is why her family desperately worked at keeping up appearances.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 09, 2016, 11:00:54 pm
FREE WILLY........OR WILLY FREE YOURSELF AND UNLOAD ALL OF THE POWER HUNGRY MIDDLETONS ONCE AND FOR ALL.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 10, 2016, 07:50:43 am
^

Couldn't agree more as do most of the nation.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 10, 2016, 11:25:57 am
Poor Willy. He is a faded shell of his former golden boy self. The evil Middletons have sucked the life blood out of him like a coven of vampires. He is now bald, emaciated, folding his hands and doing the crotch press just like the evil Potato Head Witch.  He is wearing clothes which are way too small and are not tailored to his pitiful body. His trousers boldly outline the shape of his package like some sort of male prostitute displaying his wears for sale for all the world to see. He looks awful. They have beaten him down mentally. This is what these vampires have done to him. He needs help in freeing himself from them. His father should now step in and do something. Do it secretly, behind the scenes. Do It Now.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on October 10, 2016, 01:33:01 pm
Willy should be firm once and for all. It would be the best solution possible.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 10, 2016, 05:16:05 pm
When the Middletons have been thrown out there should be a national holiday, so great will be the relief.  The divorce will be accepted and the public cheering.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 10, 2016, 06:42:27 pm
It needs to happen.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on October 10, 2016, 07:31:56 pm
Wimpo hating her guts.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/597a4edc2c5a8e74365a274b7afce8e1/tumblr_oeub7oyZNT1s7g60mo5_500.gif


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 10, 2016, 07:41:55 pm
^Love it! Thanks for the gifs, Stephanie. KM is such trash.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 10, 2016, 07:51:36 pm
Still behaving and looking like an over excited 5 year old, just like her first disasterous speech.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 10, 2016, 08:01:13 pm
This buckleburian bimbo is much like the bogan in that they won't just LEAVE and leave these men alone. It is disgusting how they leech themselves onto these men for money and social status. It is pathetic, really.  It is almost as if a man having money and/or a title mean loss of rights and human dignity and that he is an a**hole for not wanting to give these women the time of his day. Try pulling this shyt with a pauper and a quick call to the police will end this crap in a hurry. BTW, don't these women then turn around and join anti-bullying and female empowerment campaigns?  Don't  you just love it? Sarcasm alert. :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on October 10, 2016, 08:08:41 pm
Wimpo hating her guts.
http://66.media.tumblr.com/597a4edc2c5a8e74365a274b7afce8e1/tumblr_oeub7oyZNT1s7g60mo5_500.gif

That look sent a shiver up my spine.  IF LOOKS COULD KILL!!!!      :nervous:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 10, 2016, 08:24:34 pm
^^^So then how do we KNOW he is following her fashion advice and not someone else's? :dontknow: Or maybe SHE is imitating someone else again in yet another pathetic attempt to emotionally blackmail PW into thinking she reminds him of that person so he will keep her around? And I don't mean Diana-syndrome this time. :dontknow:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 10, 2016, 09:08:16 pm
He treats her well because of affluence; if she had been poor or working a normal job, he would have never given her as much leeway and understanding. Men like him, prefer to indulge the lunatics as long as the lunatics have a ton of money. If Kate had been working in a blue collar job, she would have had the police called on her and William would have written her off as a crazy delusional lunatic. Kate is the same way with William; if he had been a blue collar working class guy, she wouldn't have bothered with him beyond a discreet affair and consigned him to the gutter. Both are fundamentally the same as each other, their relationship enables them to deny this ugly side of themselves.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on October 10, 2016, 09:37:06 pm
^^From another thread and I'm sorry to repeat myself but I'm thinking more and more that this new "look", however embryonic it is, is PW-driven, not Kate.  He's showing signs of taking control of his own life, maybe.  That'd shake the foundations of the Midd World, if true.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on October 10, 2016, 09:50:17 pm
yet not long ago we saw Carole and the Queen in the same car  :dontknow:

http://66.media.tumblr.com/597a4edc2c5a8e74365a274b7afce8e1/tumblr_oeub7oyZNT1s7g60mo5_500.gif

IMHO it looks like Will can' t stand the person next to him, Kate  :tehe:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 11, 2016, 12:06:36 am
^^ I agree that is part of it :thumbsup: however I also believe it involves a woman you may be surprised about. Just my opinion, folks... kisss


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on October 11, 2016, 12:17:33 am
Any clues to her identity please?  :thankyou:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on October 11, 2016, 02:41:24 am
No :tehe:  not yet anyway. .. :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on October 11, 2016, 11:19:20 am
Wimpo trying to dig up dirt about Waity?
http://www.hofmag.com/prince-william-kate-middleton-closely-monitored-concealed-microphones-found-couples-quarters/190987


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fredericka on October 11, 2016, 11:55:17 am
I agree he might have a love interest on the side.

One of the (supposed) tell-tale signs of an affair is that a person will start to dress differently, appear more affectionate to their primary partner, and appear more confident, happy and relaxed.  Willy ticks all those boxes from where I'm sitting.

I loved the comment in the DM from someone who said this dress looked lovely - for someone appearing on the cover of 'Shorthand Typing Manual 1976'!   :tehe:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 11, 2016, 05:53:27 pm
It could be that he either has a mistress, goes regularly to a bordello, or he basically feels more indulgent and decent since he's reached a point of no return and is no longer forcing himself to feel emotions he believes he should feel. Kind of like how a person relaxes considerably after deciding to break up with someone and basically move on. It could well be that now that he's divorced himself emotionally and psychologically from Kate, he's at a point where he's decided on divorce, but isn't in any rush and has decided to coast and enjoy the feelings of freedom and newfound calmness and simply start building a life of his own that does not involve her. If he has a mistress (maybe Jecca) then it means that emotionally and psychologically he's transferred his feelings and focus. Now he's looking more confident and assured and it could be that he's done with her and looking elsewhere.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on October 11, 2016, 07:53:46 pm
^^

In addition he has had a teeth makeover.  They have been filed down in the front to look less rat like.  Those close say Kate nagged him in to having this done after so many adverse comments.  The new teeth look is very obvious on this visit.  The DM banned from commenting on this according to employees.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on October 11, 2016, 08:39:49 pm
His long horse like teeth have definitely been filed down a bit but they didn't finish the job. They are still the color of field corn.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fredericka on October 12, 2016, 01:35:09 am
^  :tehe: :thumbsup:  :tehe:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on October 12, 2016, 03:08:39 am
What I see is some major passive-aggressive behavior in the past coming to fruition as an in-your-face statement.  It started with Kate's exhibitionism to state that she's in charge, sexually.  Then, PW's attempt to show he has a pair by not hiding the royal jewels everywhere he goes, in revolt.  Now?  Now, we have what I thought I'd never see.  A man who is taking an interest in his own appearance, again, however baby-steps it is, and leaving her to her own devices.  I really do.

Very interesting turn of events.  I've been waiting for PW to man up and maybe he's taking a leap of faith.  It would only serve him and his country well to do so.  The Age of the Middletons have done him no favors.  Nobody wants to see a leader being led around by a bunch of women (and vice versa) who don't pull their own weight.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 12, 2016, 03:36:47 am
I wonder if whether or not WK have had arguments that are escalating. He's been nothing but patient, but she's not paid him back for the ring, the respectability of having his family name and title, nor has she paid him back via the favors he's done for her family.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 06, 2016, 02:50:45 pm
Putting this on here as not sure where else to put it.  Found it on another blog and copied it, for the life of me can´t remember which blog it was, I was just having a Sunday trawl for the first time in a while  -  if the writer reads this forum I apologise for not remembering where/who it came from  :flower:

May I add that IAMDiana is NO longer Billy the Plumber's Booty Call!! (An emoticon that represents "dead")

He's moved on (and on to anotehr) and she hasn't. (An emoticon that respesents "cr*p)


Makes you think and wonder doesn´t it.  She really does look incredibly rough and hung over all the time these days, and despite I am sure numerous haul ups re how she dresses etc. her clothing appears to get worse all the time.  Also makes me wonder about that horrid frock at the Bob the Cat premiere, where she flashed herself in that transparent, hideous frock.  She normally does something like that when she wants him to come running, maybe that ploy does not work any longer.

Just wondering who the contender(s) are that have taken the eye of bill medd.  Still wonder about Jecca and the boy Wolf.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on November 06, 2016, 03:29:19 pm
Hey.  Kate was given the drill before marriage.  It's what these royals do and not only do we have like father, like son, but PW is a full blown narcissist and arrogant a$$.  He feels untouchable, gave her the rings title, money, house, and this is his reward to find a sympathetic ear and pillow.  I would be shocked if he wasn't seeing other women.

I'm not condoning it but also see reality and have lived it.  I also wouldn't be gasping in horror to find out that Kate's a player as well.  She sells sex all the time.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Maya on November 06, 2016, 04:12:21 pm
Don't normally comment on the Middletons but the posts in this thread are so on the money and voice what's been on my mind for a while. If you observe the recent Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie trial separation -imo- Brad Pitt started to change his image a while before the trial separation was publicly announced.

When a man starts altering his appearance in an already steady relationship them something is afoot. That said I think it's just a rough patch the Middletons will weather the storm.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 06, 2016, 05:09:12 pm
I do think that if a divorce happens, it will be triggered because William will start yearning for a life that he was groomed for, but has fallen woefully behind. You can tell he wants to start leading a more prominent life, but he's restrained because his uncouth wife refuses to grow and mature and build something of her own to stand on. I am certain that once he articulates what he wants and manages to get things calrified, he will end up able to see her and her family for what they are.

The only flaw is, that he foolishly didn't build a life of his own so realistically, he isn't going to go anywhere even if he leaves her.

Putting this on here as not sure where else to put it.  Found it on another blog and copied it, for the life of me can´t remember which blog it was, I was just having a Sunday trawl for the first time in a while  -  if the writer reads this forum I apologise for not remembering where/who it came from  :flower:

May I add that IAMDiana is NO longer Billy the Plumber's Booty Call!! (An emoticon that represents "dead")
He's moved on (and on to anotehr) and she hasn't. (An emoticon that respesents "cr*p)


Makes you think and wonder doesn´t it.  She really does look incredibly rough and hung over all the time these days, and despite I am sure numerous haul ups re how she dresses etc. her clothing appears to get worse all the time.  Also makes me wonder about that horrid frock at the Bob the Cat premiere, where she flashed herself in that transparent, hideous frock.  She normally does something like that when she wants him to come running, maybe that ploy does not work any longer.

Just wondering who the contender(s) are that have taken the eye of bill medd.  Still wonder about Jecca and the boy Wolf.

Hey.  Kate was given the drill before marriage.  It's what these royals do and not only do we have like father, like son, but PW is a full blown narcissist and arrogant a$$.  He feels untouchable, gave her the rings title, money, house, and this is his reward to find a sympathetic ear and pillow.  I would be shocked if he wasn't seeing other women.

I'm not condoning it but also see reality and have lived it.  I also wouldn't be gasping in horror to find out that Kate's a player as well.  She sells sex all the time.

I think Kate is one of those women who thought they would use their bodies and other scheming before the marriage, but suddenly turn all sanctimonious after marriage. She had no qualms pulling so much BS and no suddenly she's decided to be a puritan and I believe that William is sick of her pious hypocrisy and if I were William I would likely be seeking comfort elsewhere. I'm reminded of how Anne Boleyn got Henry VIII and after marriage, became all hypocritical about his flirtation with other women and basically got shouted down by Henry. We all know the story. Kate is just another Anne Boleyn and thankfully however her greedy vile family are not able to coerce the nobles into marrying them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on November 17, 2016, 05:18:24 pm
Do you think IF they do divorce, that the BRF will get all of their jewellry back including Diana's ring?


I've often thought that Ma Midd would hide them somewhere as "payment" (I know it's not the right word but I cannot articulate the correct word, sorry) for PW marrying her daughter into the BRF. And also she'd get a copy made of 'that' ring.

Or do you think that the Courtiers etc would seize the jewellry that belonged to the BRF without the couple's prior knowledge?

I don't know if this is the correct place for my musings MODs so please feel free to move if need some be.

Thanks.  :thankyou:



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on November 17, 2016, 05:21:32 pm
^I have no idea.  The veteran monarchy experts here would know that better than I.  However, if I was a smart lawyer, I'd make sure that IF there was a divorce that it would be mandatory in the agreement that Charlotte receive the ring either at the time of divorce or at some point in the future (when Kate dies, or Charlotte reaches a certain age). 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rosella on November 17, 2016, 05:32:50 pm
^^I would guess that a very expensive ring like big blue would have to be listed as part of the property settlement during the divorce proceedings. It would be subject to what the court decided on it, I suppose. Kate hasn't got any other personal jewellery that's worth that much other than that ring, I don't think.

 William gave it to her on their engagement and the marriage went ahead, so I suppose it would be hers. I can't imagine the BRF tussling about it in court proceedings, so if they wanted it back they'd have to negotiate. Would Charles/Cam want it back though, and Willie probably wouldn't?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 21, 2016, 11:25:14 pm
It is not a ring associated with happiness.  I doubt the BRF would want it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 21, 2016, 11:40:48 pm
The last time there existed a ring that carried such great unhappiness they had to do this:(http://66.media.tumblr.com/dfdf38dc4d216f34fdb18dfa6b5c10ae/tumblr_n12dbuEkj91qggczbo3_250.gif)


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on November 21, 2016, 11:45:31 pm
^ :laugh:  Boy, I needed that laugh.  :thankyou:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 21, 2016, 11:48:43 pm
LOL!

Thing is, I believe that if William ended up divorcing her, he would be vicious enough to strip the clothes from her very body and make her leave the palace naked as the day she was born. I do not think that he would let her keep the ring if he wanted it back and he would take it!

You guys forget, that she has no leverage by which to basically get anything. The RF could cast her out with less than Fergie and they could bind her with a confidentiality agreement preventing her from talking to the world about her time as a royal duchess.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 22, 2016, 12:22:10 am
^^You're Welcome! :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on November 22, 2016, 12:46:15 am
Why did he give her that ring in the first place? A ring that represents such an unhappy marriage? Such an odd thing to do. Did Kate beg for it or something? I really think that ring should have gone to Charlotte or a future descendant of Diana's... keep it as your grandmother's ring, but don't give it as an engagement present.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 01:07:39 am
Who knows. I sure don't.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on November 22, 2016, 01:21:33 am
The last time there existed a ring that carried such great unhappiness they had to do this:(http://66.media.tumblr.com/dfdf38dc4d216f34fdb18dfa6b5c10ae/tumblr_n12dbuEkj91qggczbo3_250.gif)

lmao !!!! Brilliant!
The problem with the ring is though that it has historic provenance and importance. It was the ring of the most beloved modern princess, and who knows how much she'll be remembered in the future, but if as much as other historic (royal) women, then the ring is of great importance and the Winds better see to get it back.
Some claim that D had a copy made (never heard that, except from some tumblr blogs and some forums) and if K keeps the ring, then to me it'd mean she's got the copy and not the original. There's no way they'd let her keep it.
Befuddles me as well why he gave it to her, unless as some say he was too cheap to buy a new one, though I bet he'd get a great "discount" from the (court) jeweller, but then, why spend anything at all when you can spend nothing? It should have stayed as "Diana's ring" and yea such an unhappy marriage, why have a symbol of it for your marriage?  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on November 22, 2016, 03:24:35 am
IF they ever divorced then Kate would keep the ring - as Diana did.

She will also be given a large settlement as the mother of the future King - as Diana was.

I know that many of you have your opinions on that but with no evidence coming forth to support that claim any divorce would be along Diana's settlement not Sarah's.

Given how Sarah's live has turned out it is probable that they would want to give her a large settlement with a strong confidentiality clause to avoid another loose cannon like Sarah who has to sell herself over and over again. They don't want another situation like that so will keep her close to them. That is a very good reason why there won't be a divorce, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on November 22, 2016, 03:28:10 am
LOL!

Thing is, I believe that if William ended up divorcing her, he would be vicious enough to strip the clothes from her very body and make her leave the palace naked as the day she was born. I do not think that he would let her keep the ring if he wanted it back and he would take it!

You guys forget, that she has no leverage by which to basically get anything. The RF could cast her out with less than Fergie and they could bind her with a confidentiality agreement preventing her from talking to the world about her time as a royal duchess.

William would make it a point to take that ring with every bit of force he can muster. It would be a way to publicly embarrass her since such a big deal was made about him giving it to her in the first place. He's shown himself to be spiteful like that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on November 22, 2016, 05:11:07 am
William does not have the income that Charles had. He's not the Prince of Wales/Duke of Cornwall/etc. He is second in line to the throne. I think a potential divorce settlement would be based on income and how much money is in the bank, and the value of their assets, not whether or not she's the mother of a future monarch.  :dontknow:

At this point, the ring is a family heirloom. When Diana received it, it was her engagement present, a new piece with no history attached. I think it would depend on the judge as to whether or not she had to give it back.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 05:25:36 am
Diana got all that she did because:

*She had worked like crazy from day one of her wedding to Charles.
*Spearheaded numerous causes that used to be unfashionable and taboo and won the hearts of everyone around the globe
*Diana had immense popularity with the public and that was a considerable weapon
*Diana had married at too young of an age to end up building a life for herself, much less a career
*Diana came from among the aristocracy and as a result, had powerful family to back her up
*Diana was an admired fixture on the world stage and as a result, had powerful friends who wanted her treated well
*Diana continued to do charity work from the time of her separation and would continue after the divorce
*Diana provided two healthy sons to the line and also added the Stuart lineage to the Windsor line, adding the English part of it

Kate on the other hand:

*Married at an age where she should have had career experience behind her; her time with William as a girlfriend will not count and no judge will allow Kate to use the years she threw away as some kind of reason that she should be taken care of
*Didn't work at all much
*Is a joke with the public
*Undermined the institution of monarchy
*Has no powerful friends/family to ensure good treatment
*Does not have any major charitable work to continue after any divorce
*She can't say she brought William to his present eminence since he was born into all of it
*Has made it clear what her view of the downtrodden and 'unfashionable' are

All William has to do is hire a good legal team and drag the proceedings to the point where she will end up bankrupt and unable to pay her lawyers, thus being forced to settle for the scraps and give the ring back if he wants to.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rosella on November 22, 2016, 05:44:00 am
Senior royals don't go into court and fight their divorce issues out in front of a judge, however. A judge would never decide any issues. Both legal teams get together and thrash things out behind closed doors, with input from the estranged spouses of course. If there is a sticking point on something then that is re-negotiated until an agreement is reached, again between the legal teams.

Property settlements and maintenance are settled in the same way, and no-one gets to hear about the results except very discreet lawyers and the couple themselves. It's all then presented to the divorce court as settled and is then rubber stamped with a decree nisi. To this day the exact settlement Diana received from Charles is unknown, just guessed at by the Press. Some things were made known, her term of address, position in the Royal Family, offices in St James Palace etc, but not the terms of her settlement. Same with Fergie.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 06:44:56 am
Thing is, during a divorce, Kate would be quickly reminded of the realities of how HM is the court system and in fact, HM would not at all coddle Kate. She (Kate) would be manhandled in a way that would basically set her straight, something she needs anyway. I am certain that she would end up with very little and while there wouldn't be a court fight, any legal reps working on behalf of Kate would be minnows compared to the palace sharks.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on November 22, 2016, 07:05:57 am
Diana didn't do as much as many people say she did - around 200 a year was her highest number of engagements. She took on some causes - true - but so has Kate. Yes she gave the BRF two sons - Kate has given them a son and a daughter. Kate is increasing her number of engagements, just as Diana did. Kate is also very popular - not on Diana's scale but no one wants a repeat of that madness, least of all William.

Diana did not bring Stuart blood back to the BRF - it never left. The Hanoverians claim to the throne was via their descent from James I and VI - the first Stuart King of England. His daughter Elizabeth was the mother of the Electress Sophia of Hannover. Sophia was the first protestant or person not married to a Roman Catholic in the line of succession and so her son succeeded as the first Hanoverian King but that was because he great-grandfather was a Stuart. His great-great-grandmother was Mary, Queen of Scots, another clear Stuart.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 07:18:46 am
Kate should have been doing more the minute she was married, not 'easing her way in.' It's to me a matter of age difference. Diana took on a ton of work (along with literally running the households) and started all this at eighteen/nineteen/twenty. Diana also had to deal with the fact that she wasn't going to be allowed time to basically ease her way in, she was doing appearances at the time of her engagement as well. Kate started at thirty with a decade of fun and sun and clubbing and still isn't running her own household, her mother is. She's not trying to do anything for Britain, she has destroyed the press relationship between the palace and press, and has doen damage to her husband as well. Kate brought nothing and contributes nothing. Kate can't claim to be an innocent taken advantage of by the evil RF and can't say she was manipulated into accepting. She has two kids, but their legitimacy is questionable due to the rumors of surrogacy. We know this. Kate isn't even breaking into a hundred engagements and her appearances are mainly overseas, not local. She has no right to anything.

A lack of a prenup can work both ways. it can opne the door to a greedy wife, but also leave it open for the husband to leave her with near nothing since she would not be legally (via a prenup) allowed to claim that  she has a contractual claim to the estates of her husband. William could ( and he seems sadistic enough to do this) use that leeway to leave her with nearly nothing. At her still young age, she could be told that she's obligated to learn a new skill set and find a real job to support herself.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on November 22, 2016, 07:23:33 am
The last time there existed a ring that carried such great unhappiness they had to do this:(http://66.media.tumblr.com/dfdf38dc4d216f34fdb18dfa6b5c10ae/tumblr_n12dbuEkj91qggczbo3_250.gif)

^  :thumbsup:  :laugh: :P


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 22, 2016, 07:49:06 am
The Midds have allegedly already done really well via the RF connection.  The latest Manor of Doom was said to have been either supplemented or bought by Willy and Royal stores raided to furnish it.  Not to forget either the free clothes, make up, household goods etc etc given as freebies ever since they sprung in to the scene.

Juggers has been pulling out stops in Hello too, trying to say what a wonderful wife and mother Waity is.  Sadly only the flag waving sycophants believe this and they are fast decreasing too.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 07:57:21 am
Given all that Kate herself has surely had handed to her, I am certain that any legal team on behalf of the palace would be more than glad to wave that over her head come negotiations.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: cate1949 on November 22, 2016, 09:15:10 am
the discussion is always about this expectation of divorce yet the divorce never materializes.  Would be rare for a young couple with young children to divorce anyway. 

There are no particular signs things are amiss.  Just the usual.

At any rate - the belief Kate would be treated poorly in a divorce seems off to me - Mememee seems to be right - they will not risk a Fergie repeat.  It would be undignified for the mother of a future King to have to scrounge around for cash.  In the unlikely event of a divorce - I expect Kate would be treated well.

As for that ring - throw it in the Thames.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on November 22, 2016, 09:36:33 am
They don't seem to enjoy each other's company (body language, facial expressions) and spend a lot of time apart.

I think they're one of those couples who never should have gotten married, but drifted into marriage because it was expected of them by Kate's family and the media. They didn't want to break up because they didn't have anyone else lined up and they're the sort of people who always have to be in a relationship. Seriously, couples who are in love don't wait a decade to get married, especially when they're rich (no trouble affording a wedding) and done with school/uni (it's not like they were high school sweethearts or something). I think they're too stubborn to divorce but will instead live separate lives. They'll sometimes come together in public for appearances, but will rarely see each other in private.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 11:17:28 am
Knowing Kate, she would ask for the ring and continue to wear it on her right hand.  She seems kind of perverse in that way.  :ick:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 22, 2016, 04:03:11 pm
It has been said that Ma likes to borrow it and trip round  the bedroom in her fluffy dayglo pink mules and peignoir, flashing (hopefully the ring!).  Pa has done a runner so maybe as many predicted the ring a very bad omen.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 04:16:31 pm
Has Mike left Ma?  I missed that, I knew he'd left before, a number of months ago, but thought they reconciled.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 22, 2016, 06:06:31 pm
^

They were allegedly told (ordered) to appear in public together so as not to ruin the image of the 'happy family' used to reel in and dupe poor old Willy.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 22, 2016, 06:30:10 pm
Thanks, Val.  So much for Willie being drawn to KM for her happy Norman Rockwell family.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 22, 2016, 11:26:53 pm
This is what he gets for not wanting to work on building a family of his own, instead drifting looking for a supposed 'finished product.'

They don't seem to enjoy each other's company (body language, facial expressions) and spend a lot of time apart.

I think they're one of those couples who never should have gotten married, but drifted into marriage because it was expected of them by Kate's family and the media.

William's problem is that he never outright told Kate that she isn't entitled to a ring and she has no business expecting anything of him at all. He didn't owe her a ring and as for being proper, honorable, she hasn't been either for a very long time. I am certain that she's the type that likes to go all holy after getting what she wants and frankly she has never behaved in a way that would really suggest that stringing her along is immoral and is hurting her reputation that has to be preserved so she can get a good match (as if making her way is somehow anathema or impossible). As for the media, he should have told the press that like a normal man, he isn't required to marry anyone eh does not want to. The press had no business setting themselves up as some kind of moral voice for Kate and other women worldwide.

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They didn't want to break up because they didn't have anyone else lined up and they're the sort of people who always have to be in a relationship. Seriously, couples who are in love don't wait a decade to get married, especially when they're rich (no trouble affording a wedding) and done with school/uni (it's not like they were high school sweethearts or something). I think they're too stubborn to divorce but will instead live separate lives. They'll sometimes come together in public for appearances, but will rarely see each other in private.

William didn't want to make an effort. If he had stayed single, he would have done his duties, worked on his charities, and would have had to make an effort first to attract a nice girl, woo her, and then show himself as marriageable material and worth the sacrifice of giving up making a living. I am certain that he didn't really want to build a family life of his own, he prefers to basically mooch (like much of his family). Marriages based on not having to make an effort basically fall to pieces because inevitably, one or another has to make a sacrifice and I am certain that neither wants to. It's a horrible mess because if they actually made an effort, they would be able to really have a great marriage.

If he had had the guts to take an adult stand and put a stop to Kate's BS and cut her off once and for all (using legal backup if needed) then I am certain that he would have genuine respect from the press/public for taking an adult stand and basically he could have built on that. It's not 'nice,' but he never should have let himself be pushed around. I am certain that the real issue is how he came up to a challenge, the first real challenge to his wishes, and ended up failing to take that stand. At some point we all have to take that stand and really just stand firm, but William failed that test and as a result, ended up really, really wrecking his life. If he had thought of himself as more of a prince, he would have likely viewed this as a challenge to his authority (she is his subject in terms of titles/rank) and gone all 'Prince Charles' on her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on November 22, 2016, 11:49:31 pm
Wimpo could never do that.
Ever since the Mansons got their claws in teenage Wimpo his fate was sealed and there's no going back.
He is a Manson puppet now and he will do as he is told.
His emotional development was arrested and the Mansons's bread and butter depends on him staying that way: an angry teenager who can never grow up.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 23, 2016, 07:43:19 am
^

They catered to his every need, clucked sympathetically over late night cocoa, acted happy normal families and played him like a violin.   He didn't stand a chance being the weak, naive, grieving teenager that he was.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 23, 2016, 08:20:03 am
I do think one thing the Midds have over him is how if he leaves Kate, who would want him? A balding, lazy, shiftless, man who still reminisces about his glory days. Women his age who have it together do not want to parent him or make a man out of him. It's asking too much and as I've grown from a codependent, unsure young woman to where I am now mentally and emotionally, my own perspectives have changed and I have no time or patience for a man who is just figuring himself out. William sounds like he is tiring to live with; as for Kate, I think her real problem would be facing a life of no red carpets, no VIP access to clubs, no access to clubs at all, and zero decency from the press. Both will hold on since they have nothing to leave each other for.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 23, 2016, 01:12:30 pm
^ And so we have a calcified, dead relationship.  On one hand I think it must be torture for them both, but then I wonder if they have even the small amount of self awareness that would require.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 23, 2016, 01:27:40 pm
Probably not otherwise one of them would've walked by now surely.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 24, 2016, 06:01:05 am
At the moment, neither are aware of where the magic went in their lives, but neither realize that in a way, fate has lost patience with them and so their lives are just on a downward spiral that they're both taking each other on. Right now a lot of the friction between them is because both are struggling to recapture the magic that both had before marriage, that magic good luck charm that stayed with them for so long. Since they married it's like some kind of good luck spell has been broken and yet they still carry on as if its' still there and should be catching them when they stumble. I do believe that she's struggling against the reality that there isn't some magic place in her new life that is filled with people who are waiting to welcome her with open arms and make things all better for her, but there isn't. William looks like he's seeking some kind of magic place where he can be a little kid again and be cared for and coddled and basically begin life all anew and with so many things in his past changed. What he's looking for via marriage to Kate, he's not finding it either. His model family have been exposed as being a bunch of con artists and I am certain that he's been bitterly disillusioned while at the same time, possibly writhing from being made to look like the blithering idiot he chose to be. He's been seeing what others have been seeing right off the bat and he has ended up with nothing but moochers on his hands.

As for Kate, she's at the top of the heap, but she's not being treated nicely by the aristos, she's not the center of some glittering cosmopolitan royal court and she's obviously not getting deluged with invites to places in her new station. It's a social Siberia, a wasteland. She should in fact be getting invites to endless places, sought out, courted for her presence, and yet, nothing. She's so alone it must be painful, but ironically, she's done it to herself. She struggles so obviously because she wants things to just come together and basically ride through, but it's like her past has caught up with her (her past actions included) and she's been left out in the cold as a result. The people she would like to hang with, the celebs, are all basically working and for some reason, she's not able to just reach out and invite the celebs to her place. I think her torment comes from not knowing the 'why' of the issue.

When you see both kind of calm and tolerant of each other, you'll see two people at peace with the dead end their lives have become. Until then, we're still going to see the glares, the death stares, the cold body language. As long as both struggle with reality of what they've made of their lives, you'll see Kate being dead in the eyes and basically not at all 'there' and William will still be the inane idiot he has chosen to become.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 24, 2016, 09:32:56 am
^ :goodpost:  Basically she has never fitted in, and never will.  A part of her problem is that she thinks that she is now above everyone else, wants to buck the tradtions of hundeds of years, do everything HER way or not at all.  We are in the middle of a major economic crisis, and she trots in in the most awful frock costing thousands of pounds, more than some families earn, and struggle in, for six months.  People are going to clothing and food banks, the world is in a mess, and yet she continues with huge home, full staff, she has zilch to do, could lie in bed all day if she wanted to and everything is done, no worries.  She is not interested in the "people", she just thinks being married to bill medd makes her super special and she should be treated as such, and not even lift a finger for it all to happen.  I think all she could see was the title, the lifestyle, the black Amex, free to do anything and everything she wanted as and when she wanted and nobody should ask for any return.  Sadly for her, she married into a family who is 100% taxpayer funded and in this day and age expect a return for their money.  KP renovations, Anmer Hall renovations, supporting the medds en masse, all funded by the taxpayer.  And she appears to think just being her is a good enough return for our money.  She gets taken to engagements by helicopter when a chauffeured car would be more than sufficient.  Not as if she has to rush home and get the dinner on, pick the kids up from child minding, stop at the food and clothing banks along the way.  She has nothing to do and no responsibilites, the staff do it all for her, so why the rush.

She is not up to the position she has taken on.  As said, aristos, etc etc are most definitely not interested in her, they see her as trailer trash, as do a lot of the public now as well.  The rf might worry themselves about what a harm a divorce could cause  -  frankly, the way so many feel about her, and the way she looks and behaves, I think it would be a relief to wave her goodbye.  Let them have a divorce.  Yes, maybe HM wants to finish her reign without another divorce, but hey, the stigma has gone, divorce is not a rarity any more and widely accepted.  She will finish her reign as one of the weakest monarchs who let her family ride rough shod over her.  Diana and Fergie were sent packing for far less than what council cath has done  -  in fact put Diana and Fergie together and they look positively wonderful next to her.  And yet HM does nothing about council cath, not a thing.  Expose her but, boobs, full frontal vagina, to the world.  Family sponging as much as they can from the rf.  As for the India/Bhutan trip, incredible, a total disaster from start to finish, she was not fit to be there.

Let them divorce, I know others disagree, but I personally see no mileage in keeping her hanging on in there.  She has gone too far, there is no way back, and as she appears not to have wanted to move forward in the first place, full stop, I don´t see that she will be interested in making things any better going forward.  In fact, she appears to get worse all the time, and makes so many gaffes in all directions it beggars belief.  If HM wants to redeem herself to the people then she needs to take her family in hand and do something about it.  The trouble council cath and her family have caused/created for the rf is beyond belief, and still HM has let it continue  -  that family have made her a laughing stock world wide, she, and she alone, has allowed it to continue.  The rf do not need council cath and her family, all they do is drop the rf further and further down into the sewers, and if HM can´t see that then she is even weaker that she has shown us she is already.  How bill medd can even stand there at engagements, next to her, and know what everyone has seen all her most intimate and personal areas, world wide. How many husbands would put up with that.  He is a weak fool, just like HM, obviously runs in the family.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 10:03:04 am
You can't make someone fix something when they don't think they've done something wrong to begin with. In Will and Kate's mind what their doing is the right way to do it because it's just the way they are add to that they've surrounded themselves with "Yes" people who enable such behaviour. I don't think HM is weak, I think she's just giving Will and Kate enough rope to hang themselves by. You also can't make people believe something unless they see it for themselves and even then there's those that refuse to see the forest for the trees. If she'd put her foot down in the beginning she would've been labelled elitist not wanting to let the poor common girl in and Will would've put up a stink and it would've turned into a whole star-crossed lovers thing we'd be hearing about to this day, Jesus just look at how they go on about Harry and Chelsy still. In allowing William and Kate to lose the respect of the public through showing their actions and inadiquacy for the job she's being very smart. We also don't know her end game to be honest, we know the way that Will and Kate are raising their kids will make them unfit to rule and maybe that's what she's hoping for, Charles may have sorted it out already as to what will happen with that marriage come his time who knows. :dontknow: In the mean time they have to show a modicum of support in order to keep William placid and keep the peace basically because infighting only breeds more scandal and smearing to the Queen.

They read everything or at least have someone doing it for them and passing on the important bits, if you think Charles hasn't come up with something to get back at Kate and her family for all the shade she's cast on him, his mother and all the scandals they've cause as a subsuquence....I think HM and Charles are like Slytherin's, they're cunning about their revenge and rather have it be slow and drawn out. They're patient, they can wait.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 24, 2016, 10:46:14 am
^Agree with a lot of what you say, but I personally do think HM is weak, she could have headed several situations off at the pass, but she never did anything about it and ended up in an even worse situation.  Had she addressed things early on then we would be looking at a whole different ball game now IMO.  Maybe she is working behind the scenes, maybe she is not, but right now she appears weak to a lot of people, not just some of us on here.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 11:14:02 am
Maybe in hindsight, she probably never thought that certain situations would turn out as bad as they did. How many of us here haven't gone through sometging similar? We don't always know how a situation will turn out or sometimes we can't see what alternative to take. Even William has said that she doesn't really interfere in their lives too much and just offers advice but lets them get on with it and find their own way. She does not have supreme rule over all of them or the government, hence she was raised to give council but not interfere directly, she probably uses this stance with her own family. She does the best she can with what skills and situations she's got in her own way.

Time will tell wether she was weak or just very cunning, remains to be seen. She also I think doesn't want to do things that will hurt her own family too much. William is still her grandson and no doubt loves him despite all his failings he's still her blood, and he's been pampered too much since his mother which made how he already was much worse, that isn't her fault, William is the way he is because that's how he chose to react to the whole situation. How many people lose one or both parents and turn out to be wonderful people with even less than half the support he had. William is the way he is deep down to gis soul, he's just not a nice man, she cannot change that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 24, 2016, 11:45:46 am
You can't make someone fix something when they don't think they've done something wrong to begin with. In Will and Kate's mind what their doing is the right way to do it because it's just the way they are add to that they've surrounded themselves with "Yes" people who enable such behaviour.

I think this is the nut of the issue.  They are both arrogant and determined to do things their own way, even if it is destructive. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 12:24:20 pm
Essentially. But you know the old saying, pride goeth before the fall. They're falling alright. :June:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on November 24, 2016, 12:41:04 pm
I wanna know why she looks, lately, like somebody shot her dog.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 24, 2016, 01:03:16 pm
Don't we all. Suspicious how the trouble in paradise reports have all of a sudden dried up and we're seeing a bunch of the kids and them all over the place trying their hardest to push the whole happy family speel. Deflection now doubt, something certainly went on behind the scenes. Meanwhile a little while later they open their gobs and show us just how disconnected they are from knowing sh*t all about raising their kids.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 25, 2016, 12:35:58 pm
... and a People story describing Kate's mother as a secret weapon.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 01:01:07 pm
Indeed....the whole Midds lot including Bill are just shady as hell.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 25, 2016, 01:46:01 pm
^^^

Juggers trying to redeem himself and getting it wrong as usual.  He got his knuckles wrapped for helping draft Harry's letter to the media and not restraining him in a way the more experienced members of staff would.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 01:49:42 pm
Why is he even still at his job. Ever since he joined their whole PR and communications has been a disaster. Juggers is a joke at his job.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on November 25, 2016, 02:05:07 pm
^In Jugger's defense, he doesn't have the best material to work with.  But, a more disciplined approach is becoming mandatory now and he doesn't seem to have the bearing and authority-mind to do his job effectively. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 25, 2016, 04:40:37 pm
It's going to take someone who can stand up to William, and people like that don't come cheap.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 25, 2016, 04:47:03 pm
Some old gritty soul would do, might finally put William in his place.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Cindy on November 25, 2016, 08:18:37 pm
I thought only I had noticed that there was something wrong with Will and Kate. I also think kate is aging very fast, that's not a good sign :sob:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on November 25, 2016, 08:28:27 pm
... and a People story describing Kate's mother as a secret weapon.
I didn't read the article but it sounds like she is threatening someone, no? Please post link if it hasn't already been posted. I am at work and can't locate it.  :tehe:  And I bet it is easy to fnd, too, but I just can't!   :tehe:  Thanks. :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 25, 2016, 08:29:19 pm
Both WK want someone to parent them, keep them in line, while they indulge in being 'hot young royals' again. Until William finds a mommy figure who will be everything, I am certain that he'll stay with Cheese-on-Toast Carole via marriage to Kate.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 25, 2016, 08:53:52 pm
^^
Here's the item from People, entitled "Princess Kate's Secret Weapon: Her Amazing Mom, Carole Middleton":


When 3-year-old Prince George and 18-month-old Princess Charlotte arrive at granny Carole Middleton’s manor house in Bucklebury, they can’t wait to see what’s new in her menagerie. There, around a pond in the splendid garden, is a children’s paradise filled with ducks and chickens. “It looks absolutely beautiful,” a family friend tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “The children love to come and play.”

This haven of tranquility — 50 miles west of London — is where Carole, 61, and her husband Michael, 67, have lived their 36 years of married life. Today, it’s where their elder daughter, Princess Kate, and son-in-law, Prince William, turn when they need a home away from home. From backup childcare (it was Carole who looked after the kids during Will and Kate’s spring tour of India) to setting an example for her three children (Kate, 34, Pippa, 33, and James, 29), the former Carole Goldsmith —who once worked as a flight attendant before founding her wildly successful Party Pieces business with Michael — is her family’s rock.

“I don’t think anything fazes [Kate] — she just takes everything in her stride,” says the friend. “A lot of this comes from her mum. Carole’s lovely, and she just doesn’t let anything faze her.”

As the holidays approach and families gather for festivities, seasoned observers say Carole is taking on an unprecedented role in the upbringing of the next generation of royals. (She has even been welcomed into the front seat of Queen Elizabeth’s Range Rover!) Carole was also center stage when William visited Africa over Easter. George and Charlotte were taken to the local church in Bucklebury, with the little princess being held by Kate while George sat quietly in a pew.

“They all joined in with the hymns,” a villager tells PEOPLE, noting that the youngest family member experienced a few fussy moments. “Charlotte has certainly got a good voice! She had her moment. I think she believed the vicar went on a little too long with his sermon.” And, as is often the case, Carole was on hand to help soothe her.

Observes Robert Lacey, royal historian and consultant to the Netflix series The Crown, “Carole is doing the things a nanny or governess used to.”

“Some locals think that Carole has changed since Kate joined the royal family, but to me she’s still the exact same person,” says a third Bucklebury resident. “She still goes to the pub with her girlfriends for a glass of wine and a gossip and is always really fun and approachable, relaxed and happy. She’s just as much fun as anybody else.”

The family friend adds, “She adores being a granny and always tells people, ‘I’m loving it.’ “


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 25, 2016, 09:49:53 pm
Of course, if the kids were not royal, they would not at all end up being fussed over and Carole wouldn't give two hoots.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on November 26, 2016, 05:44:43 am
^^ It sounds like a PR article for me. She does her best to save this marriage in public.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 06:29:38 am
To be blunt, I think this is about reminding William that if Kate and he divorce, Carole will not be available to serve him cheese on toast. Carole is kind of cementing her place in William's life.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 26, 2016, 07:45:30 am
^

William must be the only person on this planet who has not seen through Ma Midd.   Even if he had he is far too stubborn to admit it.  What hope is there for him as King with the plotting Midds in tow.  The sooner someone persuades him to dump them all and get a divorce the happier the nation and no doubt he would be.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VIIa
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 08:18:48 am
I'm puzzled as to why there isn't more outrage about Carole essentially raising a future heir to the throne.  It isn't appropriate.  That kind of authority and influence shouldn't be entrusted to her.   ???


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 26, 2016, 09:32:28 am
^Yes, just why is council caro being allowed such influence and interference in raising those sprogs, it does beg the question doesn´t it.  I think many know the answer to that one.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 10:01:51 am
I honestly think that if Carole wanted this marriage to work, she would pull her daughter aside (should have done this during the wedding reception) and drilled it into Kate's head that as a wife/consort, it was her job to make the marriage work and do her duties. Not run home to mother all the time and I have no idea how on earth Kate doesn't get ticked at how her mother keeps living her life through her (Kate). I think deep down William is tired of his MIL hanging around, ordering staff around, and basically not giving him the space and privacy that any sane man needs in his life. I would be so sick of seeing my staff bossed around, burdened with extra duties, and of course, put up with her hints for money and favors for James/Pippa.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 10:23:16 am
Somehow, Carole has established herself as the center with everyone orbiting around her.  She's a master manipulator, and everyone is in so deep they can't seem to extricate themselves.  It's almost as if they believe their very survival depends on the arrangement as she has set it up.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 10:28:38 am
This marriage is a cult-like situation with Carole as the cult-master. I am certain that for a divorce to occur, that William would have to be somehow forcibly extracted and deprogrammed, which would be arduous. A divorce would mean literally divorcing from his past, a past he apparently wants to cling to so much for some strange reason. I do believe that Carole must have some amazing leverage over William to get all she has out of him.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on November 26, 2016, 12:14:48 pm
^^
Here's the item from People, entitled "Princess Kate's Secret Weapon: Her Amazing Mom, Carole Middleton":


When 3-year-old Prince George and 18-month-old Princess Charlotte arrive at granny Carole Middleton’s manor house in Bucklebury, they can’t wait to see what’s new in her menagerie. There, around a pond in the splendid garden, is a children’s paradise filled with ducks and chickens. “It looks absolutely beautiful,” a family friend tells PEOPLE in this week’s issue. “The children love to come and play.”

This haven of tranquility — 50 miles west of London — is where Carole, 61, and her husband Michael, 67, have lived their 36 years of married life. Today, it’s where their elder daughter, Princess Kate, and son-in-law, Prince William, turn when they need a home away from home. From backup childcare (it was Carole who looked after the kids during Will and Kate’s spring tour of India) to setting an example for her three children (Kate, 34, Pippa, 33, and James, 29), the former Carole Goldsmith —who once worked as a flight attendant before founding her wildly successful Party Pieces business with Michael — is her family’s rock.

“I don’t think anything fazes [Kate] — she just takes everything in her stride,” says the friend. “A lot of this comes from her mum. Carole’s lovely, and she just doesn’t let anything faze her.”

As the holidays approach and families gather for festivities, seasoned observers say Carole is taking on an unprecedented role in the upbringing of the next generation of royals. (She has even been welcomed into the front seat of Queen Elizabeth’s Range Rover!) Carole was also center stage when William visited Africa over Easter. George and Charlotte were taken to the local church in Bucklebury, with the little princess being held by Kate while George sat quietly in a pew.

“They all joined in with the hymns,” a villager tells PEOPLE, noting that the youngest family member experienced a few fussy moments. “Charlotte has certainly got a good voice! She had her moment. I think she believed the vicar went on a little too long with his sermon.” And, as is often the case, Carole was on hand to help soothe her.

Observes Robert Lacey, royal historian and consultant to the Netflix series The Crown, “Carole is doing the things a nanny or governess used to.”

“Some locals think that Carole has changed since Kate joined the royal family, but to me she’s still the exact same person,” says a third Bucklebury resident. “She still goes to the pub with her girlfriends for a glass of wine and a gossip and is always really fun and approachable, relaxed and happy. She’s just as much fun as anybody else.”

The family friend adds, “She adores being a granny and always tells people, ‘I’m loving it.’ “
:flower: For the lufe of me I just couldn't find the article. :tehe:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 06:05:58 pm
^^ If that is the case, I don't see them ever splitting up, no matter how thin Kate becomes.  I do see the similarities between the Middleton family and a cult. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 26, 2016, 06:16:26 pm
Once the cult leader is gone it'll disolve. Kate doesn't know how to function without her supreme leader.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 26, 2016, 07:43:06 pm
For better or worse, she'll likely live a long time.  Which is fortunate for her grandchildren since she's raising them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on November 26, 2016, 09:37:05 pm
How is it different having someone like Carole raising the children to past generations who had the children raised by nannies - many from similar backgrounds to hers - hardworking, middle-class backgrounds? Crawfie had the largest role in raising the Queen while Charles and Anne were raised largely by their nannies as well and they were from middle-class backgrounds. No difference at all to me than Carole other than the fact that she is also their grandmother.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 10:03:07 pm
Carole si freeloading. Crawfie and others didn't go on the Jubilee float and were not related to the RF and didn't indulge in freebies. It's not like Caorle is actually running the house so much as she is mooching around directing operations and guzzling wines and champagne from the cellars and eating the food from the refrigerator. It's not like Carole is even letting the kids have the spotlight, she takes it for herself. This marriage isn't going to last if William continues to foot the bills for Carole's extravagant tastes and enable Carole to boss staff around and generally party it up at his expense.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on November 26, 2016, 10:20:33 pm
Wimpo will never be a man until he finds true love.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on November 26, 2016, 10:36:35 pm
^ His true love is himself. He surrounds himself with yes men, people who will constantly praise him rather than encourage him to improve himself. That should have been corrected when he was a teenager, but his parents were too busy working/fighting, he was off at boarding school, and then after his mother died his father was more interested in promoting his mistress than raising his sons.

I don't think Carole is raising the George. She could be running the show (making his schedule, deciding what he eats/wears), but no way would George be *that* attached to Nanny Maria if she wasn't the one raising him. Charlotte seems to be less shy than her brother, not constantly looking for Nanny, but that could just be a different personality; I don't think the nanny would be raising one kid and not the other.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on November 26, 2016, 11:04:24 pm
^^^^

Carole was from a very much working class family not a middle class one.  The documentary aired just before the wedding showing this is still doing the rounds.

^^^

Carole 'barks' for her very iced Chablis at 6 pm 'promptly' from the Anmer cellars when mooching up there.  What staff are left think the way she acts is hilarious.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 26, 2016, 11:26:26 pm
William loves anyone who make it easy for them. He loves his image as a golden boy. He loves his glory years and good press. Anyone who brings him that will have his love and will have his respect and chivalry. I am certain that After he took Kate back in 2007, he started loving her again because things were easy for him yet again. Then he ended up loving her during the early tours since he was getting effortlessly good press and the hype was drowning him in glory.

Fast forward five years:

The press is covering him in good headlines, but only in an ironic way, not substantial.
The public hates his guts and the comments in the DM and other places are vicious.
Kate is no longer pretty, or interesting, or energetic or anything that attracted him to her.
His social life is dead in the water.
He's supporting his surrogate family financially and socially.
His looks are going away and the press has more interesting things/events/people to cover.

I am certain that this marriage is strained because his free ride has ended and he's basically stuck in the mess he's made for himself. There's nothing that can or should be said other than that it's all basically over for William, which is killing him. He's come to a point where there's nothing there for him and he's not able to fathom that he's no longer the hottest ticket in town. If he managed to extract Kate, he would have to hunt for a new girl who will put him back on the map and that would be impossible. It would turn him into the same kind of person the Middletons are and he would look pathetic, an aging, prematurely balding/elderly clone chasing after a young girl with her entire life ahead of her. Young girls want more for themselves out of life and they do in fact have that right not to have their life disrupted by some jerk who trashed his own life.

I think out of decency he should stay married. He ruined his life, the least he can do is basically stay out of the field and do his part to pay the price for the choices he made. He chose to throw his life away. He has no business leaving his marriage and then running around asking more established young women to put off their lives so he can have a second free ride at life. Imagine having a stable life and career and home and being asked to throw it all away so some loser can reestablish himself in life and leech off of her accomplishments and responsible choices. I am certain that he has no idea of how utterly selfish he is to ask this of someone. Out of anyone. As for Kate, she has no business leaving the marriage and running around like Fergie, latching on to as many rich men as she can, hoping for a second free ride in life, minus the very little work she actually does. They should stay married out of respect for the choices they made and the people they represent. Neither has had any excuse to end up leaving a marriage they had done and cemented at a high mass at Westminster Abbey.

This spoiled pack of brats should not be allowed to walk away and pretend they have a right to start over.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 01:30:34 am
This is what happens when people don't have real jobs or any purpose in life.  Too much time on their hands to be unhappy, and to make everyone around them unhappy too.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 27, 2016, 03:31:48 am
He might not have chosen to be born to this, but he was free to walk away and find his own way in life. He has always had choices and has always lived a life where he is accepted and wanted. because of his title, okay, but that is life. I think he thought that in courting and marrying Kate, he would be able to live with someone who would always be innocent of his intrigue-loaded life and he would be married into a family that would not ask anything of him and life would be filled with middle class bliss. Fast forward, it was all a lie. There is no place on this planet that is not filled with people out for their own self-interest and William never accepted it and worked to make tools to protect himself. He brought a lot of misery on himself, but also his family and people.

As for Kate, I don't feel sorry for her at all. She was looking miserable since 2008, but CHOSE to stay. She could have walked at any time, no pity from me. I am sick of this cultural reflex where we're supposed to feel sorry for women who stay with bad men who mistreat them. As if we're supposed to protect them from having to make choices and make a life for themselves. I simply DO NOT care anymore. If a woman chooses to stay in a bad place with a bad man, she has no one to blame but herself. IF she has a kid who she keeps in that bad place, she has no one but herself to blame and the kid should be removed and given a chance to make the right choices in life. Kate made her life for herself. No sympathy from me. As far as I'm concerned, I do not feel sorry for her at all.

I am certain that they are in fact ideally suited, just not in a good way. William treated her better than he would if Kate didn't have money and Kate would have passed him by if he were not rich. Both are users and both are shallow enough to mate using superficial traits. Money (no matter where it comes from) and PR are all that matter to the both of htem. Considering the destruction they've wrought on so many other people, they deserve all the misery in the world. Neither are good people, they just like to think they are.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 27, 2016, 08:41:40 am
It does seem like she's really gone downhill in the last month or so.  Even on the Canada tour she looked better.  Lately, she looks and acts like somebody shot her dog, in YM's words. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 01:57:13 am
I am certain that she's probably either been told off in a way that got through to her, or she's faced the reality of the life she threw away. Or it could be that William very bluntly told her that he's stopped loving her and from then on out, she's not to expect any more favors from him.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 28, 2016, 10:42:52 am
Plus she sees her sister preparing for her wedding, supposedly so in love.  Then there's the Meghan threat.  She must feel cornered, trapped.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 10:56:26 am
I think she may be thinking about her life choices. Seeing her sister marry James and seeing how she's eventually going to have a title plus she's marrying into money must have put a lot of things into perspective for her all of a sudden. Meaning that all the angst, drama and everything she's been through with William not to mention having to work for the public to maintain her lifestyle might've made her suddenly realize how unneccesary it all was if she'd married lower but just as monied if not more and basically gotten what Pippa is going to get. I think she's envious if her sister marrying someone who was doing whatever he could to try and impress her and who's never cheated on her and so on. I think she finally saw how badly she sold herself out.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 28, 2016, 02:28:41 pm
^ Wow.  The way you expressed that, now I'm kind of depressed for her.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 28, 2016, 03:43:05 pm
It's a sad life she sold her soul for isn't it? :sigh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 28, 2016, 03:55:43 pm
All the new clothes in the world can't make up for what she's lacking.  And she can't even wear the clothes she wants to, seems like someone's talked to her about that too, hence the granny look of late.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on November 28, 2016, 09:17:57 pm
The Viper taking precautionary measures for the inevitable divorce: claims she lords over the Windsors and is the ONLY one who can raise Bruiser and Viperette.
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2016/kate-middletons-lackluster-work-ethic-carole-middleton-takes-credit-queen-elizabeth-appalled/


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 28, 2016, 09:22:51 pm
Good luck there; I do think that the RF (after giving William a sound whipping) will at long last teach this witch who is the real Sovereign.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Tessofthemiddletons on November 29, 2016, 10:44:42 am
Windsor 2 posted a comment on the Harry dating Meghan Markle thread about a comment in the DM claiming that the KP press release was a cover up for William. Seeing how awful Kate has looked during her last two public appearances, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something in this rumour.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 07:10:35 pm
Kate looks broken and basically as if she's experienced some kind of final defeat that has broken her; William seems to be kind of contradictory. If he's been smiling and looking relieved, I am certain it is because either he's made his peace with his life or there have been confidential divorce negotiations and he's looking forward to life as an ex-husband and offloading the Middletons for good. Judging how Kate looks, the settlement must not be much.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on November 29, 2016, 08:03:59 pm
If they do divorce, do you think Kate will remarry?  My guess is no.  She's burned way too many bridges along the way.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 10:41:38 pm
Who would want her?

She would lose her HRH, which means she will go from top of the heap to literally the bottom, without even a "Lady" title to go by and as for remarriage, why do you think Fergie hasn't managed to land a husband, much less a wealthy one? Mainly because every wealthy man on the planet will know that if they marry Kate, they'll be stuck footing the bills for her loafing around and supporting her disgusting family. No man wants that in their life and no man will have her because she offers nothing in return. She'll be too unstable, non-functional, and too notorious.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on November 29, 2016, 10:48:33 pm
she's probably been shown  divorce papers, waiting to be signed it she doesn't tow her line. could account for the scared animal look of late and the frumpy windsor esque outfits.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2016, 10:58:09 pm
That would make a lot of sense; Kate hasn't been leaking mean things about the Windsors, she's been looking oddly defeated, and she's not being walking ahead of William, she's been utterly cooperative. I wonder if a courtier stopped by and showed her the papers (probably signed by William no less) and told her that if she steps out of line one more time, the marriage will be over and they'll forge her signature of that is what it takes to throw her out. I cannot imagine just how sick of her the courtiers are and frankly I think that the entire aristocracy will end up spitting her out the minute they get the chance. What I find jolting is how the entire aristocracy has managed to cut her out socially, despite being an HRH and (For now) future Queen Consort.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on November 29, 2016, 11:07:33 pm
^^^^^Maybe she's been told to raise them for reasons only discussed on another thread?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on November 29, 2016, 11:24:53 pm
That would make a lot of sense; Kate hasn't been leaking mean things about the Windsors, she's been looking oddly defeated, and she's not being walking ahead of William, she's been utterly cooperative. I wonder if a courtier stopped by and showed her the papers (probably signed by William no less) and told her that if she steps out of line one more time, the marriage will be over and they'll forge her signature of that is what it takes to throw her out. I cannot imagine just how sick of her the courtiers are and frankly I think that the entire aristocracy will end up spitting her out the minute they get the chance. What I find jolting is how the entire aristocracy has managed to cut her out socially, despite being an HRH and (For now) future Queen Consort.
Utterly and absolutely defeated. She couldn't even put up a fight and it's like I said Council Carol (e) has no power whatsoever despite many on this and other forums saying so. The Middletrash clan has no power whatsoever. None. They are the stooges and there is a third party benefactor if you will. When PW puts his foot down it will be HARD and right up KMs trashy flat as* and the annulment is comimg up. Remember I said when PW has his one no one will stand in his way. Well, he is this close now and no, it isn't MM. I just know this just watch and interesting BRF couldn't/didn't resist this.  I believe it is what they have all been waiting for and what should have happened long ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince Michael and Prince Andrew play a major role coming up. I also believe many questions are about to be answered soon, too. (See other thread and others questions and long held truths which will turn out to have been lies and misconceptions all along) This is my belief. :loveshower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 12:16:45 am
You know, it's rather satisfying seeing her get hers.

After all the trouble she's caused people and walked away while leaving a person's smashed life behind, she's at long last hit the wall and she can't escape the consequences of her actions. she's been first socially ostracized by people who should technically be her subjects (the aristos) and she's been likely experiencing a bad situation (her life with William and the Windsors) in her domestic life and her parents not only can't get her out, but WON'T get her out. I am certain that she's been struggling with this new reality and struggling with the fact that her coasting days are over. Even if she is no longer a consort, her life will not be easy as a divorcee; she'll lose all she's been used to and the only reason she had her VIP treatment is because she basically ended up on an upward climb. She was on her way up and that attracts people. If she goes down, ti'll be harder than anyone.

She'll no longer have red carpets everywhere for her and she'll no longer be a part of the RF and treated with respect, but the reality is that she'll be downgraded to the Eurotrash level of society like Fergie and the press will not be nice (why would they?) and she'll be abused relentlessly.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: CathyJane on November 30, 2016, 02:52:21 am
Too bad I can't feel sorry for her or any of her nasty family. I just can't.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 03:55:57 am
Don't think it's too bad for her that she spent her entire life pushing her way in and trying to direct the lives of everyone around her. She pushed her way into William's life and assigned herself the role of his PR one-thing-or-another and even documentaries mention how she was aggressive in taking control of his life in regards to the press.

Then she damages his relationship with his family, insults his friends, pushes other girls around, and then slanders her Sovereign.

She all too readily forgets she's a SUBJECT of HM, no different than the rest and no, she was never William's equal as well. She was (and still is as consort) William's subject and basically NOT his equal. It's that attitude that ticks me off. She has no business putting on airs that she's better up in regards to rank than William. Those are the rules of the society in which she lives and that is how it is.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sophie on November 30, 2016, 09:30:19 am
You are so right, KF.  Your comments make me think of the few times I've seen her curtsy to HM.  She does it grudgingly, and it's really just an abbreviated bend of the knee and nothing more.  You can tell she absolutely hates having to show deference to anyone.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 09:55:17 am
One thing that really jolts me is how she seems to literally *despise* anyone who is one of the crew. She has campaigned against the Yorkies and has slandered the gentry set when the engagement came out. How Kate had some kind of middle class triumph. She had the gall to walk in front of HM at that one Jubilee engagement and the way she dismissively referred to William is unnerving. For someone who is status conscious, she has some idea that she is on par with that family and doesn't get it into her head that she's not ever going to be considered an equal to them. She could marry in and gain respect through work and respect for others, but that is too difficult to the spoiled brat who prefers to push people around and play games with lives and reputations.

During any divorce I think she might go insane since she will not be able to fathom that she's being rejected and that she doesn't belong.

A divorce would in fact cause massive culture shock. Not because she loves William, but because she's so dependent on him for inclusion. I had a similar experience. While I was in a bad relationship, the guy I was confidante to became more attractive as a relationship prospect. So I dumped my boyfriend and moved on to the next guy. The guy dumped me and I was socially ostracized. Not high society, but the principle is just the same. A divorce would cut her off even from the respectable fringe she was on as a result of her relationship with William. She is now so used to being part of 'society' that a change would be a literal trauma for her. She would spend her time basically in shock and not just the social set, but the rest of her life would go upside down.

Imagine if you will, Kate is no longer married to William.

She would no longer get discounts, much less freebies and I am certain she would not even get NEAR a single club, much less be able to breeze right in. Then she would have to get used to no long having William at her side and she would have to adjust to leading a life of emptiness minus the luxury. She would lose her homes in Norfolk and KP and her family wouldn't have her. She would have to move to a modest place and while she might get a pension, it wouldn't be much. She would then have to adjust to empty days living in a small place and basically spend her time and limited funds on decorating and that would likely be the most depressing possible situation in her life. She would be a gross chapter in royal history and known as a complete disgrace. The press she's abused would in fact turn on her and detail her fall from title to who-knows-where.

She's so used to the best, while pushing people around, that it would be incomprehensible that she would find herself in that situation.

There is no way that she would get a palace, staff, full pension/settlement or title to mooch around. I do think that the RF would likely (after taking the whip to William) take relish in cutting her off from everything, including a courtesy title.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on November 30, 2016, 11:47:05 am
He never should have married her. Such a mess.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2016, 01:27:31 pm
Yeah well he did and has done damage that can never be fixed. It's not like divorcing her will suddenly make him golden again, or regrow his hair or erase the past. It won't undo the horrendous fact that he's jerked so many people around for that crazy wench and it's not going to change how many careers he's destroyed. He's done a lot of damage by enabling that crazy destructive woman and any normal man would have called the police in 2007 instead of just letting the nutbag stalk him until he got her back. She's been escalating the destructiveness and as far as I know, it'll only get worse. I think the only reason she's allowed to slack off is because the RF is placing their bets on Harry (an apparently foolish thing to do) and now she's only prevented from doing damage because she is somehow being confined to appearances that are simple and undemanding. Or a threat of divorce.

William has done horrendous damage to so many I think that if he divorces, he should step out of line and give it to his brother.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 30, 2016, 03:45:00 pm
^^^^^@ deGuernsey, which thread are we talking about. Thanks.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2016, 05:40:19 pm
^ The Members Only Thread mainly and every other lie, misconception etc the Midds have ever put forward to advance themselves socially and financially  :flower:

Also, does anyone know whatever came of the news that PP and the council woman stole the copyright of Simon Cowell, Harry Potter and ??? Were they ever made to stop and/or pay a fine or are they still up to their thievery?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 30, 2016, 05:58:30 pm
^Thank you.  No idea on the thievery, but nothing surprises me with that lot, up to all the tricks behind the scenes, think they are invincible because council cath married that gormless, ugly galoot with horse teeth.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on November 30, 2016, 06:01:57 pm
^^ deGuernsey

Why do you think Princes Michael and Andrew will play a role? What role?

Do you think the York Princesses would step up and become working Royals after the mess that is KM has unravelled?

And what role would Prince Michael play?

All very intriguing.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 30, 2016, 06:08:06 pm
This relationship has a certain element of gaslighting going on. :think:
http://iheartintelligence.com/2016/04/27/mental-manipulation/ (http://iheartintelligence.com/2016/04/27/mental-manipulation/)


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on November 30, 2016, 06:12:43 pm
^ Interesting article. Thanks for posting. I'm going to re-read later. :thumbsup:

LittleLight.   No, I don't believe PW will leave the line of succession and I don't believe he should. For several reasons the two men will play a role: PA justifiably defending his daughters, the Yorkies, who were and still are blatantly targeted for smear campaign and to tear them down specifically to build KM up and give that Midd cult copy and $$$. Prince Michael as an older and possible liaison if needed. He is intelligent, clever, can be brutal if necessary, has the quintessential English charm, has that old school gentleman quality that can be utilised for the beneft of more than HMQ.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on November 30, 2016, 06:14:58 pm
:flower: You're welcome. I just can't decide who's gaslighting who, there seems to be a Ma Mids/William/Kate gaslighting triangle going on. :nervous:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 12, 2016, 12:37:34 am
You know, if there is a divorce, she would be entitled to nothing. I am certain that she will end up getting nothing since she's done nothing but bring trouble. She has ended up doing so much harm that the monarchy would never recover, even if William remarried an angel/saint who could perform literal miracles. What galls me the most, is how I believe that even though she went after William with a vengeance, she has welshed on taking responsibility for that. She's literally blown the monarchy out of the water and blames everyone around her for what she wanted in the first place. The way Kate makes it out to be, she was literally unable to live her own life mainly because the RF was forcibly grooming her as a royal bride and evilly prevented her from being able to earn her own way in her twenties. Throw in how she tipped off the press and then screamed invasion of privacy, she also shows how she liked to start trouble there.

What the tabloids say will not be important. She'll end up with nothing but her life and I am certain that she won't be able to have an HRH or huge income. After she's out, it'll be like the breakup, only minus any chance of a reunion.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 12, 2016, 01:14:24 am
^I wouldn't go so far as to say she would deserve nothing in the event of a divorce.  She's put in 5 years (is it that long?) and, by law, has two children so she'd be entitled to something and would receive it.  However, I must say that I was really shocked when I saw how little Diana received after her divorce.  The BRF are one skin flinty bunch.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on December 12, 2016, 02:29:12 am
17 million pounds is hardly little. At the time it was about double Charles' annual income from the Duchy of Cornwall - it was so much that I believe they had to use the Trust Fund established for William and Harry to pay it.

Sarah received 3 million made up of 1 million into Beatrice and Eugenie's Trust Fund, 500,000 for a house (not yet bought unless she put that money into the Swiss Chalet she bought with Andrew) and 500,000 pounds for her own use along with 50% of Andrew's navy salary and subsequent pension.

Both ladies had no expenses related to raising the children as the agreements were that all educational and other expenses were to be paid for by their fathers.

Diana also had a rent-free home at KP in the centre of London.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on December 12, 2016, 06:49:50 pm
^^@Yooper With respect I would take issue with part of your post but that would be for another thread, if you get my drift !!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 12, 2016, 07:17:50 pm
^^^ Yes, 17m not a lot in the scheme of things for the rf, pocket money to them, especially as all derived from the taxpayer in the first place.  Quite a paltry sum when you think about it, and I think she had to fight for that.  They are famous for being tight and wanting to hang on to their ill-gotten gains.  Council cath has done nothing to earn anything like 17m, unless you call dragging the rf into the gutter and making them a laughing stock world wide.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 14, 2016, 06:31:56 pm
Wimpo admited to cheating! :cookie: :cookie:
http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/89963/20161214/kate-middleton-prince-william-divorce-news-update-third-party-involved-in-impending-royal-split-duke-of-cambridge-admits-to-cheating.htm


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 06:53:18 pm
 :cookie: Ooooooohhhhh juicy if true!!!! :bouncy:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Joanna on December 14, 2016, 07:03:08 pm
Well if true, the you-know-what is about to hit the fan. :-X What a mess it would be, I suspect it would put the War of the Waleses to shame.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 14, 2016, 07:17:13 pm
Let it happen!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 07:36:53 pm
Santa Maria Gracia Plena!!!  :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: I'm not even devout.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 14, 2016, 07:49:54 pm
Acc @byEmilyAndrews Cambridges are not planning on releasing Christmas photo this year
 :Carole:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 08:28:52 pm
:- :think: :tehe: this just keeps getting more interesting. Who's he been cheating with do we think?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRHOlya on December 14, 2016, 09:16:51 pm
^^ Now that is ominous. Maybe they can't stand everyone criticizing their horribly photoshopped pics, so they won't bother as they can't stay in the same room together for more than 5min.
Really strange. If they wanted rumours, this will certainly do it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 14, 2016, 09:46:34 pm
I told you ladies that other poster who upset so many of us came on here for a reason and that is because they are testing the waters to see how much they can get away with re KMs guilt. Please see my post in Kate Press Articles Thread reply #279 where I said watch for articles about a third party woman involved and that they would blame PW/HMQ and this article comes out and it says THE QUEEN ordered PW and KM separated and PW is fine with it but KM is basically being victimised by THE QUEEN!!!  I also said  watch for articles claiming PG/PC are in danger,internet trolls are targeting the "Poor victim"  :laugh: KM and of course KM is the
victim of the BRF et al... This is like PC and PD Korea trip where HMQ ordered them separate and then the big divorce.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they do in fact imitate PDs panorama interview but do their own cheesy version of it maybe in The Daily Fail? I also say keep a look out for KM to single white female PDs little black dress she wore to upstage PC whilst he was at an engagement and to say "just look at what you're missing/throwing away!"

And no, this particular third party female is NOT the love of PWs life nor the woman I am talking about so KMs teeny tiny brain must be on malfunctioning overload by now.  :laugh:  These are my beliefs and I stand down.  Let's us just watch to see if PW has the stones to throw the bimbo out and then it will definitely happen!  But perhaps even before like a possibly long drawn out pre-emptive strike so to speak...  
^^ Now that is ominous. Maybe they can't stand everyone criticizing their horribly photoshopped pics, so they won't bother as they can't stay in the same room together for more than 5min.
Really strange. If they wanted rumours, this will certainly do it.
  I still say the third party woman isn't quite what people expect and that PW and the third party woman (not the one in the article but the one I am talking about) are not quite together yet but the the third party woman told PW to get rid of KM and so he is......


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on December 14, 2016, 09:54:51 pm
I am down with this.  :JOY: :fan:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 10:07:31 pm
It's kinda sad that I dont feel bad for her at all, she brought it all on herself after all.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: cate1949 on December 14, 2016, 10:23:33 pm
do not know if true - but seems K and W not releasing Christmas pic this year - so it is said on other sites - we'll see


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 14, 2016, 10:28:48 pm
Did they not have time to take one during their ski holidays this year? :cookie:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 14, 2016, 10:34:17 pm
PW should send out e-cards with the gif of him giving her her the look of death (posted in the Canadian tour thread I think?) or of him solo. :P


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 14, 2016, 11:54:04 pm
Do we have any verification of this from any other site?  This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest and something has definitely been going on with Kate and her long face recently.  I don't, however, believe the article that HM would push for a divorce or is helping that along.  She'd never do that.  But, PW cheating?  Oh, yeah, I can see that one.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 15, 2016, 12:00:55 am
^ It might not be true HMQ ordered this but she will be blamed nonetheless. KM copying PD to try to get sympathy. I say it is interesting that this article comes out now. I believe  someone is reading this forum for a reason.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on December 15, 2016, 12:39:08 am
What KM doesn't understand is that people 'loved' PD. She was a star. Maybe, as one other poster put it, PD did the same number of appearances as KM, but when she did make an appearance, she had IMPACT. Impact in a way that the Cambridges can only dream about. Or wish for.

And KM comes across as lazy. Well, she IS lazy. And so people won't care if she's the wronged one. She never hit the ground running, as she said she would in her engagement video. On the contrary, she hasn't and has done so little for some of her charities that some have effectively dropped her. She has effectively cheated the paying British taxpayer by doing nothing. And being paid for it. if we're going to pay for something, we want something in return and she has reneged on her part of the deal.

Diana worked and worked hard. Or at least worked harder than KM who is content to show off her late mother in law's ring. That's not work. That's being idle.

Nope. Bring it on KM. Bring it on. You're no victim.

If PW cheated, then that's not right. He went into the marriage with his eyes wide open.

And I've no time for either of them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on December 15, 2016, 02:32:02 am
He cheated on her during their dating relationship, so why be shocked that he cheated during the marriage? Let's not forget how their relationship started (they each had a girlfriend/boyfriend at the time). Kate told Chelsy that it [cheating] comes with the territory [of being with a prince]. No self-control before marriage = no self-control during marriage. Self-control doesn't magically come into existence on one's wedding day.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on December 15, 2016, 02:53:34 am
^,^^

I agree with everything. I cannot feel a bit bad for her when I think of what she did and didn't do, for almost ten whole years, for a title, and a way of life. The promises she made at the engagement, and then the total flop after. Everything she does is tainted with some kind of scandal, she brings nothing to her engagements exept silly faces and inane comments, and even her children have rumors about how they were procured. I agree with Yooper that HM won't be pushing for a divorce, she doesn't have the stomach for another debacle, but I DO believe that William is cheating and that someone is giving Kate her comeuppance  :cookie: bring it on  :JOY:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2016, 03:00:40 am
He cheated on her during their dating relationship, so why be shocked that he cheated during the marriage? Let's not forget how their relationship started (they each had a girlfriend/boyfriend at the time). Kate told Chelsy that it [cheating] comes with the territory [of being with a prince]. No self-control before marriage = no self-control during marriage. Self-control doesn't magically come into existence on one's wedding day.

I never fail to be amazed at how Kate was so righteous and snotty and knowing, as if she's been born to all of this by right. Like she didn't do her fair share of cheating and like she hasn't done her fair share of dirt to people. She has no business acting righteous after she gets a ring after all she's done.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 15, 2016, 09:29:29 am
@ Yooper

Do we have any verification of this from any other site?  This wouldn't surprise me in the slightest and something has definitely been going on with Kate and her long face recently.  I don't, however, believe the article that HM would push for a divorce or is helping that along.  She'd never do that.  But, PW cheating?  Oh, yeah, I can see that one.

I agree with you to a point, but at the end of the day how much more can the rf take of her and her family, there has to come a point when the situation has to be dealt with, it has gone on a long time now.  The medds en masse are reviled by many people and I think there would be street parties if they divorced and sailed off into the sunset.   HM has to take her pick really, because this just ain´t working, and never has from the day of the engagement when she told the world, plain and simple, that she did not care what people thought.  Went downhill from there really didn´t it. What do you do?  Let it continue to drag rhe rf down, week by week, waiting for more scandals - another butt gate, refusing engagements ie the Irish Guards and saying she did not want to be seen to have to do it every year.  How many more scandals are we going to have.  Council caro leaking like a sieve to US publications, the lazy duo looking as if they *despise* one another on engagements.  I think one of the problems for the rf here is that neither can continue with the facade, it appears to be becoming more difficult for them to pretend all is well.  The world knows it is not well, their body language tells us that., their facial expressions can be pure venom at times.  If you are really unhappy it does become very difficult to hide it, it consumes your life.  IMO it has reached the point where it all has to be stopped.  HM might not want divorce, as has been alleged she said, we don´t know if she actually did.  It was also alleged that she said it would all end in tears.  None of the rf looked happy at the wedding.  I still think to this day that Bea and Eugenie wore those daft hats to the wedding to make a point and did it purposely.  They must have known how stupid they looked, full marks for going ahead with it.  Sometimes, even if a third party does not want a divorce to happen, there does come a point when there is nothing else left to try.  Everyone, at some stage, comes to the point of enough is enough, this cannot be allowed to continue, just takes some a whole lot longer than others.  That photo at the Diplomatic dinner earlier this week, they should never have released it. HM and camzilla looking the part, council cath looking as thought she had just wandered in from the street and had not a clue where she was.  The line up  -  camzilla, chucky HM, phil, then it goes wrong, bill then council cath  -  ot stood out like a huge sore thumb that chucky and phil did not want to be photographed next to her.  Bill medd, whether he wanted it or not, had to get on with it, he created the problem in the first place.  Other side of the coin, maybe it was to indicate to the world that all is not well and that she is no longer welcome, she is there on sufferance.  Who knows, many use subtle measures to plant seeds in minds.

HM has to consider the fact that keeping her in the family means that the scandals, buttgates etc will continue.  Look at her that evening recently in the cream frock, wind billowing it right up her legs.  Or, divorce, hit the headlines, which they can tame anyway, and within a few months the divorce is no longer the topic of conversation.  I know which route I would take.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2016, 11:05:02 am
I wonder if the RF is just letting Kate burn herself out and then when she (Kate) runs out of destructive energy, then the palace will be able to extract her from the RF without a major drama or major fight. She'll be too burned out and a half a dozen more scandals, she will be in no position to negotiate. At this time, she's clearly sputtering out, but realistically, it's going to take some more time until she's so discredited that removing her will be something that the nation will BEG the RF to do.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 15, 2016, 11:31:41 am
The more I think about it the more I am certain KM is going to play the following con game when she finally gets thrown out of PW/BRFs life: she will ape PD, she will aape PD/PC divorce scenarios, she will blame HMQ/PW and even PC, she will try to stalk PW and new woman re PC y Camilla, she will claim she wants to move overseas but won't because "of the children" se will claim her life is in danger re PD, "fear" she is being stalked re PD, openly have affairs with marriedd men (we have already seen KMs version of this copycatting PD in2007 dumping), etc

I do believe t he darker hair a poster pointed out is a deliberate fyck you to PW. I believe it is by design and it is to try to remind PW of the true love of his life who currently dyes hair dark (black). I believe KM is copycatting to remind PW of his love for her said woman in order to emotionally blackmail PW into continuing to keep KM in his life and living the high life at other people's expense. However, at this point PW shoulld be on to the con and should be using this against KM/the Medds. He sould be ing her copying PD against KM, too. It is ammo against her esp in custody decisions.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 15, 2016, 11:37:14 am
Just came across this photo whilst looking for something else.  Interesting what you notice more when you look back that you miss at the time.  A photo of the "happy" couple in Bhutan.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/14/10/332BBDD300000578-3539164-image-m-13_1460625487462.jpg

What hit me immediately is how close the King and Queen of Bhutan were, although very circumspect, the warm body language so obvious between them, genuninely happy and smiling. Cue across to the lazy duo. Stood there, like a pair of those plastic dummies you get in shop windows, body language from the arctic and forced smiles on their faces  -  both looking uncomfortable and totally out of place.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 15, 2016, 11:48:01 am
^ Guess which one is a couple and which one is not. Poor PW. Poor king and queen for most likey unknowingly hosting this charade. That entire pointless tour was offensive to the good and lovely Bhutanese people. I am not British (yet) but I still cringe when I think of the horrible  way KM treated the Bhutanese. :oy I even feel like apologising to them. :o


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2016, 01:11:57 pm
^^^^^I hear ya, windsor.  I'm just saying that I don't think HM would go against her vow as head of the church to actively push for a divorce.  Would she throw herself in front of a train to keep them from divorcing?  A big fat no on that one and I think she would be delighted to see the back of Kate and the Middletons but what I'm saying is that she would never put herself in a position to be seen as promoting or actively pursuing this result.

It is painfully clear to me that the BRF have done a remarkable job in every way to make things as smooth and acceptable for Kate's comfort so, in the end game, there is no mud that can be splashed on the institution itself.  A very smart move if a divorce happens.  Their strength lies in the facts and the facts are that they have bent over backwards to make her life as comfortable as possible.

However, if PW has had an affair and Kate can prove it?  That's a pickle because HM can't support adultery and Kate can play the dying swan all the way to the bank.

It's quite a mess, really, if true.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2016, 02:47:00 pm
Or an annulment; if there were technicalities that proved that they were never legally married, it would mean that:

1. Kate would be entitled to nothing as she would have been William's mattress all along for the past six years
2. The sprogs would not be legitimate heirs to the Throne
3. William would be scot-free to marry again without any complications impeding his way
4. A divorce would be avoided and there wouldn't be any problems for HM's precious conscience
5. Certainly, it would avoid a messy legal battle/divorce negotiations
6. Charles and the courtiers could order Kate's removal and there would be no problems with legalities; it would be as easily done as if Kate were just a mistress in residence
7. Kate and her rotten family would have no ability to deamnd payment or anything from the RF (not that they have that right in the first place) and of course, Kate would be able to leave with no complications like custody battles; the kids would be all hers
8. It would provide a monumental tabloid frenzy and make the Middleton sycophants look like complete and utter blithering idiots
9. She would be airbrushed out.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on December 16, 2016, 12:08:58 am
On what grounds could they get an annulment? William not intending to be faithful at the time of his vows? Kate saying "it comes with the territory" is a huge red flag. Some kind of mental issue where one or both of them couldn't consent to marriage?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2016, 12:27:54 am
I don't know off the top of my head.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 16, 2016, 12:59:21 am
I can think of several: PW didn't want to enter into marriage with KM so he can say he told her more than once (didn't he put out a statement in 2008/2009 where he said he supports her in whatever she chooses to do with her life and she was papped lookimg angry andcrying at airport?) and he felt pressurised into it by press (Tanna, journos on speed dial to work against PW) so conspiracy,  she made deals to be his "wife" and therefore that is treason and she couldn't have thought it would be a legally binding contract in the first place. You don't think the Daily Fail and other journos just picked KM ro be PWs wife from the bottom of their hearts and KM just figured it out and went along with it, do you? They were in on it together. Etc


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Mandosiel on December 16, 2016, 01:08:19 am
And now they're sucking totten eggs cause their Girl Wonder turned out to be a Worldclass Blunder. :James:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2016, 01:14:21 am
William judged her according to the lines of:

*Can she afford to mooch around?
*Is she untitled, therefore making her more holy and innocent than the 'evil' titled women of his set?
*Her parents are still married, making Kate an ideal candidate, unlike those evil tainted wenches who have parents who divorced.
*Can she afford to pay his way on luxury vacations?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: meememe on December 16, 2016, 01:25:43 am
To get an annulment in the UK one of the following conditions have to be met:

1. The marriage wasn't valid in the first place
2. They were too closely related
3. One of them was under 16
4. One of them was in an existing marriage or civil partnership
5. It hasn't been consummated
6. One or other of them didn't consent to the marriage
7. One of them has an STI at the time of the marriage
8. Kate was pregnant to someone else when they married

Which of these conditions would it appear that William and Kate could use for an annulment?

Kate could still argue for support and settlement based on living with William for 6 years and having two children together. An annulment is just another way to end a relationship and both parties still have rights relating to what they did while together. This is ending a more formal relationship than a civil partnership and that can end with massive payouts these days as well.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on December 16, 2016, 01:30:36 am
^ I'm going with #1, #6, and #7


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on December 16, 2016, 02:19:53 am
^ me, too.. #01, #06, #07
Treason, conspiracy, too... etc  esp planning the sprogs before wedding see Members Only Section...


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 16, 2016, 03:54:32 pm
I know it's not a popular view, but I think PW and KM are just right for each other. I too wish that she did more even though she vowed to work hard in their engagement interview, but I think he married for love. I questioned whether she would be approved for marriage by the Queen, but apparently PW avoided that conversation. I don't think there will be a divorce. They both seem content.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 16, 2016, 05:00:39 pm
^I don´t think he married for love, I think he allowed himself to be pushed into it.  I remember on the day, after the service, he said to her "satisfied now"  -  but the look on his face and the way he said it did not show love, ore a "got your own way then, okay".   The medds pushed, he took the easy route.  Even his friends used to have to go up and tell a girl he fancied that he wanted to offer a drink/dance/chat/whatever.  No doing his own dirty work.  I think they used to be friends, and got on, but she has blown all that over the last six years or so.  Just my own opinion of course, but I seriously have never seen the "look of love" on his face for council cath.  Their relationship always appears to me to lack personal warmth, the body language has never been of a couple in love.  Excited on the engagement day, but they pulled a flanker at the last minute, so probably on a high anyway.  I think he echoes his father "whatever love is" and I don´t see his love for council cath showing anywhere, sadly.  He should have stayed away when they had their break up, not got pushed into going back with.  In many ways this debacle and charade of a marriage is his fault as much as the medds, he should had stood his ground, but he appears to be weak in many ways, just like HM and chucky.
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Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 16, 2016, 05:30:58 pm
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However, if PW has had an affair and Kate can prove it?  That's a pickle because HM can't support adultery and Kate can play the dying swan all the way to the bank.

HM supported adultery by not running off Camilla Parker Bowles.   Kate's problem is not whether or not William had an affair -- her problem is herself.  She is not popular and has not endeared herself to the public. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2016, 05:34:58 pm
One thing I've noticed these days, is that young women are getting a lot pushier and don't know when to back off and just walk away. You can't just say 'no' or tell them upfront that you're not interested, young people just don't quit until there is a restraining order filed or someone ends up dead. Kate was not raised to accept that no means no and back off, she was raised to keep going and not quit until her pushing was rewarded. Pippa and James are the same. Look at how the Percys literally had to go get a team of lawyers to get Pippa to back off and how Harry denied her time and time again. It's not like James will be one to back off either. This is why I don't date in general, there are too many lunatics out there who can't get past their own entitlement complex.

If William had had any balls, he could have easily gone to a lawyer and filed a restraining order against her and tried to get a conviction. This was his first real test as a man and then he ends up failing all because he lacked the stamina to make an example out of her. If he had, he would have admiration and real respect, not any kind of BS condescension that he gets now. As fo0r William being snappish on his wedding day, I don't blame him one bit. After all her pushing and nagging and complaining about her life, he gives her the ring, wants her to be happy, but now she blew it big time once again over the past six years. I don't think he's happy or complacent, but searching for a way to get out while having a place to land.

Thing is, you can see at times that he's utterly fed up with her. Like at the Jubilee, when he made that hand gesture in frustration and how he's sick of her mistakes. She just doesn't make an effort. She isn't trying to be a wife, hasn't been anything resembling a good mother, while basically foisting her freeloading family onto the public. I do wonder if he has something fiendish in mind. He tried to give her a chance to get out of his life decently and now for all we know, he could be planning all kinds of acts of cruelty, to be dished out to her once he is in the right place. If he were complacent, happy, he would not look bitter and give her dirty looks almost all the time.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on December 17, 2016, 10:20:10 am
I remember that having a party how happy and absent-minded he was after their split in 2007. I wish he kept his common sense and listened to it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 17, 2016, 01:06:16 pm
^Aaah, yes, if only...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3042878 (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3042878)

Quote
April 15, 2007

It seems that Prince William himself reacted to his reported breakup with his longtime girlfriend Kate Middleton with a night out on the town Saturday night in London.

The prince reportedly ran up a $9,000 bar bill at a nightclub, where he allegedly yelled, "I'm free."


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 17, 2016, 01:16:46 pm
^At the time, I remember hoping that he would branch out and date some other girls. Kate seemed to really have a grip on him. I think he is a bit socially awkward though and after his initial glee at being "free" he may have looked around after he sobered up and realized that it would be hard to find someone else that could pull off being a duchess. I think they do love each other though.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 17, 2016, 01:29:16 pm
I think he didn't like the thought of actually having to make a sincere effort at courting a nice girl. He wanted easy sex, easy deference, easy leeway, and since he didn't find it at anyone else, he went back to Kate. Thing is, that as for love, they love each other like two unstable, out of control drunks who only egg each other onto one mess after another. They're heading for a wall and strangely don't  seem to care.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 17, 2016, 01:43:27 pm
^I don't exactly think they are headed for a wall. But obviously there is a sense of unhappiness among the public. At the time of the engagement people were very hopeful and seemed to be willing to forget that Kate was a commoner and a bit of an exhibitionist. Kate said in her engagement interview that she would work hard and she had ample time before having kids, but really didn't. It became very obvious that she did not rise to the occasion as she had promised, but slipped back to her old ways. She is pretty, fashionable, and appears to be a good mother. This will carry her through. Many people still have sympathy for Will and I think they will excuse some things too. I do not think PW and KM alone will do major damage to the monarchy (as long as they don't have a major scandal, which I don't think they will), but I do worry that in combination with PH's current situation, people may start to have second thoughts about why the monarchy exists (if tradition erodes too much, what makes them any different than commoners?), but that is another can of worms that probably doesn't belong in this thread.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 17, 2016, 02:05:49 pm
Kate dresses fashionably and has had kids, but these days the onus is on royals to be first fashionable, but also have substance. It's not like the Eighties and these days people view Kate as way too old and experienced in life to be so asinine. Standards are different. Since Kate has begun to withdraw from her duties (what little she did) and spend her time suing the press, she made the mistake of thinking that she didn't owe anyone anything. She can't see it because her view is so narrow minded and she isn't at a point where she's going to change her perspective. She also refuses to do the traditional things and that is another reason that people are tired of her. I am certain that in time people will continue to view her and William as a simple minded couple that would be a charming ornament if the country were not in desperate need of help from their royals to do something, ANYTHING, to benefit their country. As for William, the time for sympathy (I think) will end in 2017 when the 20th anniversary of his mother's death passes and a new generation comes along that has no time for William's mommy problems.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 17, 2016, 04:47:06 pm
^^  She is pretty, fashionable, and appears to be a good mother.  Sorry to disagree with you, but then we all have differing opinions, and I mean no offence.  Personally I don´t think any of these apply to council cath.   For me, her clothing sense leaves an awful lot to be desired, in fact it is practically non-existent as far as I can see.  I find her very masculine looking with hard features, and as for appearing to be a good mother, all I have ever seen is her touting them about to give her some pr  -  and mostly fails.  I very seriously doubt any of that will carry her through anything to do wit the rf  -  as for the public, she is not well liked at all.  Never gets good feedback on anything she does, never really has other than just after the nuptials when people were prepared to give her a chance. 

I think they have already done major damage to the rf, and in fact have dragged them into the gutter and made them a laughing stock world wide.  I would say that all her flashgates have been unwanted scandals, and never forgotten by anyone.  I still vividly recall her crotch on arrival in Wellington, NZ, when it was photographed full frontal and went viral around the world and was on front pages rags.  I think the worst, and most disrespectuf post NZ, was her frock flying up at the War Memorial in Bhutan.  She knew it was a windy country, weather forecast always available, and yet she wore a very full skirted frock.  Many mletters went flying to London to HM about that.  It always seems to be that we await the next scandal from her.  Scouts with such tight jeggings you can see her butt crack, it is endless, she never leanrs.  Not quite the appropriate behave for an allegedl royal.  Not so sure about the sympathy for bill medd either.  Many have seen through his facade and realise just how petulant, unpleasant, nasty and lazy he is.  Diana´s golden boy no longer exists, he never did, only in the minds of the public and he has disabused them of that this last few year. Also the little matter of the children, which is for another thread. 

It is my  thinking they are headed for something, whether a wall or not  -  their body language is so cold, the looks they give one another, the state of council cath these days.   I recall Easter, when bill medd headed off the Jecca´s wedding in Africa, and only told council cath he was going when he phoned from the airport.  Hmmmm, not the done thing.  Something very wrong behind the scenes it would appear to me.  How long can they go on like that, that is not living, it is existing and miserable.  It appears to be getting more and more difficult for them to keep up the appearance of being a "happily married couple", the cracks are there and it is all beginning to show.

Many are already questioning the existence the monarchy, and dirty harry is making it worse.  I have read quite a few comments questioning whether bill medd and dirty harry are a unit and are avenging the treatment their mother got from the rf.  Maybe they are, maybe they are not, but they are not two sons to be proud of, and dirty harry has shown his true colours recently too.

Above just my personal opinions, I do respect the fact that we all have our own, be a boring world if we didn´t.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on December 17, 2016, 05:39:50 pm
william and kate do not love each other lol! they both love what the other had, or has to offer. I see no love, esp. not in the past few years  lol


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 17, 2016, 06:42:26 pm
I'm not always a fan of their behavior, but what does look like or not look like? I don't see these signs of coldness in public. I just see two people who are parents who are probably more tired and not so much in the passion phase of their relationship anymore. I do not see either of them snubbing the other in public like Charles and Diana did. Charles and Diana were once at the presentation part of a polo match and Diana turned her head so he couldn't kiss her. I do not see anything at all like that happening right now.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on December 18, 2016, 05:54:38 am
^ Oh, there were a few occasions when they were caught sniping at each other in public, like at the Jubilee.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on December 18, 2016, 10:28:27 am
^^ Just look at their bodytalk.

^ Yes, I agree.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 18, 2016, 12:34:15 pm
^^Okay, I concede, there may have been a few snippy moments. However, I think their problems will not reach the level of Charles and Diana.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: logically on December 18, 2016, 04:00:45 pm
everyone here has been guessing that something is going on behind the scenes.  Maybe the love each other maybe they have a marriage of convenience who knows.  However, with all that rumbling around it is bad omen that they have to go back to MaMidds to be indoctrinated.  They could be riding decent PR by looking better than brother and the girlfriend by toeing the line and going to traditional xmas with HM and leaving kids and in-laws at the palatial house with servants for a few hours.  But no, they decamp to Buckleberry. It si nonsense that they have to plan a wedding.  She threw hissy fits to g when they were dating and now she says no.  They know that they are  not liked at the big house and more over MaMidds is making drink the kool-aid again.  Things are going on....


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2016, 04:10:46 pm
As much as I dislike how William has trashed his life, I do believe that he has in fact been somehow psychologically groomed by his early childhood to hook up with these damaged, damaging women. Men can be victims of abuse too and I do believe that his codependent nature has been in fact taken full advantage of. IF the stories about Kate controlling his social life are true, it means that he is in fact in an abusive marriage and needs an intervention; there should be some kind of drastic action, but really, HE is the one that has to make the move. Normal men in this situation, healthy men, would have in fact basically left Kate long before the engagement and would have filed stalking charges, but he instead took the adolescent route and took her controlling arse back. No matter what or how bad it gets, he has to be the one to get himself out of this and take that needed step. HM and Charles can't be the ones to do that for him since after all, he shouldn't be able to say it wasn't his choice.

A HUGE part of getting out of bad relationships is about choice, not about any kind of BS with people rescuing you all the time. If HM and Charles get him out of there, he'll just make the same mistake and expect to be rescued again. It's a bad situation, but he HAS to get himself out of this.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Vesper on December 18, 2016, 04:17:12 pm
^^Okay, I concede, there may have been a few snippy moments. However, I think their problems will not reach the level of Charles and Diana.

Spot on for the simple fact that Kate will never rock the boat. William is exactly where he wants to be. He's lazy and she lets him do whatever he wants. She may complain, but she will never do anything about it because the appearance of happy life and her position in society is matters to her most.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 18, 2016, 05:25:44 pm
^^Okay, I concede, there may have been a few snippy moments. However, I think their problems will not reach the level of Charles and Diana.

I am of the opinion that they will, they are doing a "good" job of it already. They have been caught snipping at one onother on many other occasions, in public, not realising/caring that a lot of people can lip read.  She was having a right go at hima but money, I think it was on the steps of St. Pauls.  We can think whatever we want to, that is our personal prerogative, but that does not necessarily mean we are correct in our thinking.  Thinking is one thing, what actually happens is something altogether different over which our thoughts have no control. I give thought to a lot of things, however those thoughts do not necessarily alter the outcome of a situation, no matter how much we might like it to.  My mother always used to tell me I was "wishful thinking"  -  she was probably right most of the time  lol


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 18, 2016, 06:46:24 pm
^I know plenty of happily married couples that occasionally get on each other nerves. Irritation alone is not indicative of a breakdown in marriage.

^^I too think Kate will not rock the boat enough to end the marriage. She has a good life and they both mostly get what they want. It will be interesting though to see what kind of King and Queen they are eventually when there is no one else to pick up the slack.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 18, 2016, 08:49:57 pm
^^ Wasn't there another one where she/he/both were being snippy when she was pregnant and wearing this brown coat and heels out to a race with friends. There was like some sort of video on them and people were saying they were being kinda snippy to each other at one point in it.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/05/article-2357086-1AAE835A000005DC-110_306x854.jpg
 
and this is the one GingerBoy24 was talking about that day outside of st. paul
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a5/df/5a/a5df5a639c485bdb531800076270f4cc.jpg

(sorry the pictures aren't indicators just showing the two places I remember being snippy)

^Yeah it's not an indicator of a breakdown, but I don't think they ever went into it on a positive note either. He settled and she got what she wanted.

I dunno if they will get a divorce though, I go back and forth, I mean probably not now as along as HM is alive because she's probably fed up with that. As for them being King and Queen, I see them using that position to find ways to get what they want and more. We probably won't see them out as much as HM and Charles because they will hide and that's why everyone was kinda hoping Harry would be the one to look to. But Wills and Kate, I just don't see them doing a great job, especially since Will isn't as prepared and apparently doesn't even read his notes.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 18, 2016, 09:12:58 pm
^I know this isn't a popular view, but I think Kate actually ticks a lot of boxes of the kind of woman PW was expected to marry. Frankly, it is assumed that PW and PH will end up with women who look like models. Kate looks pretty, wears her clothes well, can show up at engagements and be polite and amicable. Think of the woman you know. How many woman look like a Diana or a Kate, face and body? I don't want it to be that way, but obviously it is. So he found that, which is already a bit of a tall order. Maybe when people think he settled, it is more that he couldn't find someone who could be everything people expect and called it good enough.

I definitely think PW and KM will be working less than HM and PP, which makes me feel bad for the Queen. She probably knows it will be that way.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2016, 09:25:15 pm
I think HM and Charles had grander ideas about who William should bring home. Kate was not one of them.

I dunno if they will get a divorce though, I go back and forth, I mean probably not now as along as HM is alive because she's probably fed up with that. As for them being King and Queen, I see them using that position to find ways to get what they want and more..

I think HM is going to be given the perverse courtesy of not having to deal with another divorce, but once Charles comes along, I think (after William grovels) Charles will get him out of the marriage and basically deal with Kate the way a real Sovereign should. Thing is, that Kate and Co. are handling William fine mainly because right now they've avoided being together or working together and it's not like they likely even LIVE together, much less sleep together.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 18, 2016, 10:35:37 pm
^^The woman I know personally, tbh they don't look like Diana or Kate, they look better and pretty lol And tbh I *despise* my good looking friends. lmao but they are very sweet as well. I don't think anyone is expecting them to go out with models. No, don't ask for that. What I thought would be the equivalent to someone like Prince Daniel. He went through years, never complaining even though all he went through i'm surprised, but still stood by Vicki's side, he had his own life, career. I cant look up to Kate because, what has she done? She taught me that if I wait a bajillion years I too can get a man to put a ring on my finger by not having a job and focusing solely on him. And every time she does an engagement, they talk about her clothes and her face and body. Never anything of substance, except for BACON. My friends, they are pretty yet they don't just focus on that. For Harry, just someone who isn't going around promoting themselves all of the time through called paps and their instagrams and going through men to reach their goal but that's another thread story. So no one is looking for models. The only reason Will found Kate is because her and her family sunk their teeth so deep into him, he really had no way out. He broke up with her several times and even during the engagement photocall said something to the likes of, "I tried to give her a way out", yeah she wasn't going anywhere especially if Ma Middleton had something to do with it. (she even had him as a wallpaper on her phone she was going to make that happen...ugh). He wanted somebody else, I think people would have been happy with Jecca if she did say yes to him and he would have looked proud. I don't think it's about looks.

^Yeah you're right KF, Madeleine was one of them. But Maddie I doubt would put up with him and his nonsense. And Charles, I think blames the mids because he barely sees his own grandchildren if that is to be believed so I think he will be the force to stop their nonsense as well.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2016, 10:54:02 pm
The real problem with the Windsors is that they believe that all consorts are supposed to put up with abuse and their drama and be thankful. that is their real problem. They keep messing around and think they're owed a virgin princess who'll bring glory to their Commonwealth and do all the work while they get to slack off and push other people around.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 18, 2016, 10:58:25 pm
^^Good point, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I think U.S./U.K. culture has an unhealthy fixation on what beauty is. The point is that they are ending up with girls who look like the cover of Vogue. I would love to see them with someone more representative of what the masses look like.  


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 18, 2016, 11:16:09 pm
^^ That's true KF, they live in a time so different to the rest of us and think everyone should be in awe, but people aren't anymore now that there is internet and social media, and job losses and bills. The way they treat the married-ins is horrible and even if they do start working more then the hubbies, they don't want them to outshine them either. >_< Weird now that I think about it the ones going strong are the ones who don't technically have titles to their names. Zara/Mike, Autumn/Peter, those other ones.

^Yeah Katherine it shouldn't be about the beauty. It's what they can bring to the table, will they be a role model, have they worked a normal job so they can relate to the mass, do they like to help people. That's what should be looked at. So yeah I agree.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on December 18, 2016, 11:20:09 pm
No woman who is saving herself for marriage (whether virgin or "born again") is going to be interested in a man who parties and sleeps around. Most of them are also pretty religious; they're going to want their husband to be the spiritual leader of the family, which men like William and Harry (and others in their lifestyle) are not suited for.

I don't think Kate's anything special. Most young women of marriageable/child-bearing age are pretty and can wear expensive clothes well. She did have some work done on her face and she lost a lot of weight, but anybody could do that. :dontknow:

I think she lacks charisma, doesn't relate well to the people she meets, and hides away too much to be a good consort. Has been married for 5 1/2 years and still doesn't know how to give speeches, clearly isn't making an effort.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 18, 2016, 11:23:24 pm
^^This is something that bothers me about the sacrifice royals make these days. Decades ago, before personal cameras and smartphones, the royals could live their lives relatively unseen. They could choose when they would be photographed and featured in the newspaper. I think because of technology, it only makes PW and PH more likely to gravitate to women who are exhibitionists who love the camera, because those are the ones who will feel the most comfortable with the royal lifestyle. I do think it is sad because it limits the number of women who could really stand the test.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 18, 2016, 11:43:22 pm
^^ Ohhh don't forget leogirl, wasn't there one where apparently took a letter she wrote for one organization/person cant remember, copied the words, and printed it for the other organization/person? lol that's just super lazy! It's like people expectations of her are so low, there were sugars saying she was working so hard because she worked two days in a row. >_<

^Ahhh that would make sense Katherine as to why on tumblr I kept hearing Harry is always liking blonde workout babes on Instagram. This was around the Juliette days :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 19, 2016, 07:22:59 pm
Waity looks shocked and afraid.
http://68.media.tumblr.com/2bd2403c9e75908720643871b83fbd3e/tumblr_oig09qYse21vdn2j3o2_540.gif


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 19, 2016, 11:42:22 pm
^ She also looks really old!  :nervous:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 24, 2016, 06:24:53 pm
She looks like she's someone who has been defeated by life and has come to a realization that no matter how far she climbs, there's always another rung. I wonder how she would handle the culture shock of being divorced and no longer having access to the life she has become accustomed to. She wouldn't have much of anything and heirs or not, she's made too many enemies and done to little to get an advantageous settlement.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on January 17, 2017, 07:07:12 pm
Wimpo's off to a  :naughty: marathon with Jecca in Kenya!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-pokes-fun-william-9639100


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Spitfire on January 17, 2017, 07:23:56 pm
^ What sort of marathon...? :devil:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 17, 2017, 09:21:46 pm
She looks evil here - wouldn´t want to meet her in a dark alley  :Kate:

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9638782.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/IVM_MD17012017_Vogler02JPG.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on January 17, 2017, 11:19:04 pm
She looks like an evil stepmother from a Disney movie.  :-X


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on January 18, 2017, 03:06:32 am
Cruella de Ville from 101 Damnations ?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 18, 2017, 04:10:40 am
Wimpo's off to a  :naughty: marathon with Jecca in Kenya!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-pokes-fun-william-9639100
^ What sort of marathon...? :devil:

Oh man; Kate must be having fits about this; let's face it, it's not like William even cares about her anymore and this, this is just another slap in the face and frankly I don't know how much more this woman can take.

If the stories about how William didn't throw her a party at her landmark birthday, that is a HUGE blow to any wife.

Could be that Kate was the one standing between Jecca and William, or at least Kate preferred to make that bid for William and this could very well be his way of paying her back for it. As a person, Kate must regret ever deciding to go after William and must regret her choice to accept that wedding ring.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on January 18, 2017, 05:09:13 am
Maybe I'm just confused but:

1) The photos of the family at church on January 8th referred to Kate as "birthday girl" even though her birthday was on the 9th, so I'm guessing they celebrated a day early. A lot of people celebrate their birthday on the closest weekend rather than the actual day.

2) Since when is 35 a landmark birthday? The only birthday numbers they sell in stores are single digits, 13, 16, 18, 21, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc. No numbers that end in 5, except a silver 25 that is clearly meant for wedding anniversaries.  :dontknow:

I do think it's odd how much time he spends with Jecca, but maybe they really are just friends? It is possible, has happened with people before.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: sanka on January 18, 2017, 09:17:17 am
It will be interesting to see if he actually undertakes the marathon or merely another excuse to go to Kenya. I find it very odd that supposedly on:
- PW's 21st birthday, Jecca sat near him and KM was at another table.
- PW attended Jecca's brother's wedding when Peter Phillips was getting married. KM attended Peter's wedding in his place. KM didn't attend as a 'plus one' to the wedding in Africa.
- Apparently PW proposed to KM at Jecca's family estate as it has some special meaning to him.
- PW went to Jecca's wedding last year without his wife.
- PW went on the excursion with Jecca etc hunting outside of the UK.
Jecca may consider PW merely a friend but most women would not sit by while their boyfriend/husband does not include them when visiting. Proposing on her family estate is creepy in my opinion, surely there would have been other 'special places of importance for PW and KM solely'.
This latest announcement of attending a marathon there where I have never realised that PW participated in marathons raises my eyebrows.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 18, 2017, 09:45:23 am
- At his 21st birthday party, Kate was merely attending as a roommate/classmate of his and not as a real part of his set or family member. She was there out of courtesy, not because she was anything other than a roommate he had to invite out of decency. If Kate hadn't been living with Wiliam in his rented out house, she wouldn't have been invited. Jecca was part of the upper class set, certainly was welcomed by the family, and had known him since both were small children. Jecca also didn't walk the runway in her underthings to get his full attention.
- As for Jecca's wedding and that of Peter Philips, Peter was family and I do think Kate would be upset at dealing with William while William's preference was for Jecca. I can't imagine the temper tantrum that William had when the wedding was over and Jecca went off to her honeymoon with her new husband.
- The hunting trip was a clear sign that he really didn't want to let Jecca go, that he wouldn't let Jecca go. I always thought it was Jecca who was at the center of William's circle of trust and basically I think Kate usurped a lot of roles from Jecca, at least publicly.

I think Jecca and William have a genuine bond that time will not diminish and while I think Kate can intellectually grasp and handle that, I do not think she's able to cope with it emotionally and I do believe it is eating her alive. No way does Kate approve, but she isn't one to act all holy and righteous.

IF there is a divorce, Kate can't claim that she didn't know all about Jecca, she won't be able to shriek about how she was shanghaied into marrying William, and she won't be able to claim that she was in any way taken advantage of. It would be worse in fact if it ended up being made clear that Kate had in fact been coming between them, I am certain that it would turn the whole fairy-tale into just one big Gothic nightmare and Kate would be the ultimate villainess, not the victim (not that she ever was in the first place). It would mean huge egg on the face of her media supporters.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on January 18, 2017, 11:38:00 pm
William's 21st birthday was in June 2003. Kate was still officially dating Rupert until December 2003. Kate had to attend as a classmate because they didn't want everyone to know they were boinking. Also, maybe he was trying to get with Jecca. Like when he broke up with Kate for several months in 2004 when he was trying to get with Isabella.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 19, 2017, 12:24:34 am
I wonder what would have gone down if Kate had just backed off and gotten a life of her own instead of pushing her way into his. If she had stopped feeling entitled to direct the pathway of his life or the direction she thought his life should go in, how different things would be. He might have actually had a chance to sort himself out, clear his head, connect with his people, and have a happy life. I honestly think the only reason she held on to him is because he was part of a carefree past that she has spent her entire adult life holding onto instead of going forward and making her way in the world.

With people like Kate, the concept of acceptance being a two-way street is about her kind (mainstream middle class climbers) being entitled to walk into the world of power and privilege, while at the same time, being allowed to bully those who can't push back. She has done horrendous damage to those who can't push back, like the Jacintha family or the kids who she exploits to have her family make their vile party tat. She has sued people into career oblivion, gotten people fired, now she's getting people prosecuted. She's at a point in time when she is the EPITOME of the reason the fairy tale is dead and gone for good.

If not for her selfishness, William would have been able to marry Jecca or Isabella, while Harry would have been able to avoid being molested in 2012, and HM would have had her Diamond Jubilee celebration untarnished by the Duchess's antics. Go figure, Kate has done irreparable damage. Even IF there is a divorce and William is free, it will not undo the damage that both have done to their nation and monarchy. It won't mean that either will start with a clean slate and even if both pick up the pieces of their lives, it will not undo the damage they have done to so many others.

William won't be able to bring Jacintha back and Kate won't be able to undo the damage to HM's Jubilee; it won't undo the damage that the Cambs did when they started up all that trouble with the Yorkies and won't undo the viciousness directed at Charles and Camilla. It won't undo the destruction of what was supposed to be a respectable tour on behalf of HM's Jubilee at Malaysia and those nudie flashing moments during the other tours. It won't fix the careers of those who had theirs damaged through lawsuits. It will not restore the free legal services that the Crown previously enjoyed.

Kate might go back to a life of idle uselessness, but she won't end up being able to use the "HRH" and where on earth can she be accepted without her mess of a past being carried with her on her back? Who would receive her? Who would trust her not to betray them? She won't be able to go to the finer clubs, she won't be invited to make speeches and she wont' have her patronages to build up her resume. Since the Crown is the court system, she won't be able to secure a settlement that will keep her in style and she won't at all have anymore salutes or much of anything else. She will have to start over in a hostile world.

As for a settlement, I am certain that she'll end up with little and there will be strings attached since she won't be able to use the kids as leverage and she won't be able to really go much of anywhere.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on January 19, 2017, 04:35:31 pm
She looks evil here - wouldn´t want to meet her in a dark alley  :Kate:

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9638782.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/IVM_MD17012017_Vogler02JPG.jpg

^ Omg, gingerboy, leogirl and marion, you are right.  lol


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on January 19, 2017, 11:02:11 pm
Ugly evil calculating wigged up potato head witch.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 20, 2017, 12:27:26 am
I do wonder what on earth it is that motivated her to do this to her nation. Realizing that you don't belong somewhere is hurtful and painful, but it's something that has to be faced. She never at any point understood William's life, his way of life, and yet she didn't see that as a sign that she shouldn't hold on and should move on. She's such a deeply selfish person, it's staggering. She has no qualms holding on, even when she's hurting William. She's also destroyed her nation's prestige and fully destroyed the monarchy. Because of her (and her family) people are openly calling for the abolition of the system.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on January 20, 2017, 09:23:54 am
^

To the Republicans and anti Monarchist groups the Middletons are their secret weapon, the gift that keeps on giving.   They need do no more than just sit and wait.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on January 20, 2017, 12:31:18 pm
The Obscenity (The Potato Head) is the worst thing that has ever happened to the BRF.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on January 20, 2017, 03:49:56 pm
I think that you are really doing Jecca and her husband a diss-service to suggest that she is having a relationship with William.  I am sure that Kate has convinced herself that that is what is happening in her mind and I am sure that William would like that to happen but Jecca seems a lady with decent morals.  William and Jeccca obviously do have a special bond but Jecca made her choice when she married and I do not think she would be unfaithful to her new husband.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2017, 12:16:05 am
I don't know. I do believe that Jecca is part of a set with a warped view of life and might have warped interpretations of morals as we see them.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on January 21, 2017, 04:20:21 am
Several rumours flying round that her marriage was just a cover up anyway and questions asked about her son.  It will all come out one day.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2017, 08:39:36 am
Given the misery that WK are obviously in, it's a horrible situation all around. IF WK do divorce, it'll just create another broken home situation and while it's not just the issue of being a scandal (divorce really isn't a scandal when you think of it), it's just going to reduce William to another divorced royal. This is why I sincerely believe that people who go to school together shouldn't think about marriage. Kate obviously wanted to get married right out of school, while William was more interested in the wider world. I do believe that university is the worst possible place to find someone to spend the rest of your life with.

As for William, he wasn't ready for university, much less a relationship.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on March 05, 2017, 01:16:55 pm
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2017/prince-william-kate-middleton-play-sexy-board-games-desperate-attempt-to-spice-up-dull-royal-marriage/ :nervous: :ick:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 05, 2017, 01:57:04 pm
How can a sexy board game help them now  -  body language positively arctic, bill medd allegedly having an affair with some woman or other.  Quite obvious to see it is a marriage in name only these days. Anyway, who would want their sex life discussed world wide, especially in their case when they quite openly appear to have nothing in common any more.  Wonder who leaks all these things, can´t see it being a council caro leak, it is not her her favour to leak their marital problems.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stormborn on March 07, 2017, 09:57:03 am
That is the dorkiest thing I've ever heard.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 07, 2017, 08:36:12 pm
I'm thinking that with her looks fading and body falling apart, that she has had to work at basically keeping his rapidly fading interest and working on keeping his increasing disgust with her at bay. Kind of how Anne in "The Other Boleyn Girl" fretted about her looks and Henry's dislike of her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 14, 2017, 06:22:43 pm
Interesting little tweet on twitter

royal whispers‏ @royalwhisper  ?   

@Chic_Happens_ This is starting to remind me of the I'm Free, I'm Free night, ,except he's not free. He has a lovely family at home.

Disagree about the lovely family at home, but it is amazing how happy and relaxed he looked on his pals skiing trip.  Strange, because he always looks relaxed and happy when not with council cath.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 14, 2017, 09:57:15 pm
I think if he wants out, he has another think coming; ten years ago he could have ridden through a very petty and childish post-breakup storm and lived the life of a carefree bachelor doing his duties and enjoyed life. Instead he took the woman back and gave into silly pressure. Now if he ends his marriage, the storm will be bigger and due to the kids and wedding and other events, it's not like he'll be able to fully break away. He can't get back his twenties and he can't go back to being the Golden Prince with the golden future and he won't at all get any grace from the press that will mock him behind his back.

As for Kate, she will fight against a divorce tooth and nail and basically go on a rampage rather than just bow out of a marriage that has clearly not at all worked and continues to be a source of nonstop stress and anxiety. Unlike William, she has so much more to lose and basically will lose everything she's accustomed to. She has no chance at keeping her apartments in the palace, or her HRH, and the press will pile on her in a way that will make the "Fergie Treatment" look angelic. Even Diana was not at all protected once she was shorn of her royal nimbus.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on March 15, 2017, 09:21:03 am
^^ Yes, yes, good tweet and there is no smoke without a fire.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 15, 2017, 09:28:47 am
^^ Agree with a lot of what you say KF, but I personally think if the rf/TPTB want her out, then out she goes, and if bill medd does not like it he can go with her.  It is getting silly now, worse by the week.  All very well keeping up a facade, but they are not are they.  At least Diana and chucky tried to make some sort of pretence, pretty obvious from the body language of these two there is no love lost, cold as the Arctic. The rf pr appear to have tried every trick under the book to try and make this work, and every soppy article they push out is ridiculed and the comments scathing, despite HowardD and his team trying to tell everyone differently  -  tough luck HowardD, too many see through it all now.  It has gone too far, the rf are having no success with her, at all.  If it continues this way she has to go, whether she likes it or not.  She makes Fergie, Diana and Koo Stark look like sweet little innocents compared to her.  She has brought nothing but trouble, in capital letters, to the rf, has dragged them down and made them a laughing stock world wide.  Why should they reward her in the long term for that, using taxpayer money.  She has earned nothing, she has done nothing, other than bring them into ill repute.  Everyone says it will change when HM goes, which is likely true, and wants to go out on a high. Right now bill and cath medd are taking her reign lower and lower, can it take another 10 years or so?  Not looking good right now, and bill medd has done enormous damage with his Verbie trip and his lunches with blondes.  I see where you are coming from, but the big question is how much more can the rf take, it really does get worse all the time, with him and cath medd.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on March 15, 2017, 11:27:29 pm
 :goodpost:

Enough Meddling with the Royal family...have they no standards?  And don't get me started on Miss Publicity who Harry is dating.  I so dearly miss Diana....imperfect human like all of us.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 16, 2017, 04:27:00 am
This is a toxic match, I know  that much.

Kate is looking for someone to take care of her like a little kid and William is clearly overburdened with his own baggage and frankly it's not his job to be a father to her, it's not something he's emotionally and psychologically obligated or equipped to do.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on March 16, 2017, 01:29:29 pm
Seeing Willy's dancing something is happening, that's sure.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on March 16, 2017, 03:03:55 pm
The Dork was obviously celebrating the fact that he was far away from the Clinging Insanity of his Neurotic Boring Potato Head. He was also thrilled primarily to be far, far away from the Master Manipulating Control Freak The Heinous Viper. The Poor Stupid Dork was at last able to breathe freely. Someone needs to FREE WILLY. Sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 16, 2017, 03:16:06 pm
^ This is like the dancing on tables, partying and rejoicing and buying everyone in the room a round whilst shouting, "I'm free!!!" which led to the highly publicised dumping of KM by text message. :P :laugh: :P Me thinks PW has finally gotten it in his brain that he isn't obligated to the vile filth and can kick her flat arse out the door. Stay tuned. PW may actually be, gulp, participating in the FREE WILLY campaign himself! !! And about damn time. :o kisss


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on March 16, 2017, 03:27:47 pm
Unfortunately, when The Evil Velociraptor The Viper gets her poisonous claws on him all will be lost. Her Toxic Abilities are strong. He needs HELP. FREE WILLY!!!!!!! SOS SOS HELP!!!! FREE WILLY!!!! FREE WILLY!!!!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on March 16, 2017, 04:49:31 pm
Did he really dump her by text? I'm intrigued.

Is there any other gossip we know about this please?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 16, 2017, 05:51:37 pm
Yes, it was all quite sensational. Unfortunately, I am on my phone right now and I can't cut and  paste but as soon as I get to my computer which is probably going to be tomorrow I promise to post some links I find. In the meantime maybe some of thee other posters have something more immediate for you? But I will post tomorrow. I do believe KM was at that fake job for Belle Robinson  (name?) where KM pretended to be an accessories buyer and PW had enough of her aand sent her a text whilst she was "at work" aand she ran into th e car park and was arguing with PW on phone. She was crying aand she was given "compassionate leave" from work and I don't think she ever returned. Some of the real employees said KM said something like "it's his daddy's fault" or something or other and blamed PC for PW kicking her to the curb. KM then went on to try to win him back by stalking him everywhere he goes, nightclubs, eateries, etc wearing short short skirts etc. It was embarrassing for her. Even mummy refused to stop calling PW and badgering him to take her back basically threatening him with calling him a cad in the press as KM was past her expiry date or something equally gross. I hope this helps for now. :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 16, 2017, 06:00:34 pm
Can´t find the article where it stays she got a text at work and then called him and they argued by moboile phone with council cath pacing around the car park.  She worked for Jigsaw, something like one day a week, after HM said it was about time bill medd girlfriend got a job.  I think council caro knew someone at Jigsaw and according to staff she was rarely there, if ever, anyway and never did any work - surprise surprise on that front lol lol

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wills-ended-it-by-phone-466896

http://www.celebitchy.com/132325/prince_william_dumped_kate_middleton_in_2007_because_she_was_too_possessive/

http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-middleton-carole-prince-william-isabella-calthorpe-marriage-forced-0915/

Maybe deGuernsey will have some more links tomorrow.  Loads of articles on Google, just type in prince william dumped kate middleton by phone and it all comes up.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 16, 2017, 06:17:59 pm
I am going to try to post two links:

I knokw it's Daily Fail but it gives some info re Kate blaming Prince Charles:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-451286/I-blame-Charles-break-says-Kate-html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-451286/I-blame-Charles-break-says-Kate-html)

A faerie tale sanitised version but gives some of the basic facts:
https://parade.com/152491/parade/why-William-and-Kate-broke-up-in-2007-and-why-they-got-back-together/ (https://parade.com/152491/parade/why-William-and-Kate-broke-up-in-2007-and-why-they-got-back-together/)

Hope these work.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 16, 2017, 07:46:49 pm
Dating her was bad enough, but marrying her has been the worst decision of his life. He won't be able to just walk away free from her as if they were still just dating. I think William won't be able to go on in life scot-free and Kate will always have  a place in the history books, but frankly, if he actually divorces her and comes clean about his life and how he was pressured WAY too early to settle down in a serious relationship, much less get married, he'll have to earn his way back (A long slog) and even if the monarchy goes down, he'll be free of her toils and control. It's well documented that much of the pressure was coming from Kate's family and Kate herself, not from the RF and Kate can't claim that she was innocent at the time of their marriage.

^ This is like the dancing on tables, partying and rejoicing and buying everyone in the room a round whilst shouting, "I'm free!!!" which led to the highly publicised dumping of KM by text message. :P :laugh: :P Me thinks PW has finally gotten it in his brain that he isn't obligated to the vile filth and can kick her flat arse out the door. Stay tuned. PW may actually be, gulp, participating in the FREE WILLY campaign himself! !! And about damn time.

 Her family will be fair game for anyone and Kate will not be able to survive the end of the lifestyle that she sees as her due. She won't get a suite in KP and she won't get a fat check. She'll be unable to claim anything for the decade of their premarital relationship and she'll be lucky if she retains her duchy title. I don't believe she'll be able to basically really jet set anymore either. She won't be able to claim that she gave everything up for him and that she was used.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 16, 2017, 08:28:25 pm
Niraj Tanna twitter

Niraj Tanna's Twitter feed. It seems the blonde model’s phone disappeared mysteriously. Speculation as to what's on it. Tanna says we'll have to wait for the Sunday newspapers. Some discussion about what's going down at Manson Manor - Carole will have pulled the cheese on toast for starters. Tanna says Kate will just pretend it didn't happen but 'Carole on the other hand'.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on March 16, 2017, 08:50:30 pm
Interesting comments in some papers that clubbers were openly taking pix of Willy dancing with the blonde yet RPO's did nothing to stop them ...They have been known to grab phones from people  before


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 16, 2017, 09:14:17 pm
^ Perhaps PW just doesn't care anymore or maybe he wants to send a message? But you are right why did the RPOs allow the pics to be taken? Hmmm....
The Medds en masse must be panicking right about now... they must worry about losing their meal ticket, thw truth about their filthy deeds coming out and trying unsuccessfully to stay out of jail... jajaja... it won't work!!! :laugh: :P :bat: :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 16, 2017, 10:35:55 pm
Here are a few possible scenarios:

Scenario #1: After publication of William going hog-wild with another woman, Kate divorces William, getting a huge salute from feminists and the segments of the public that will give her some fresh respect for leaving  an unfaithful oaf and she secretly seethes at losing everything she threw her life away for. She is begged to appear on talk shows and discuss her ordeal, but due to an agreement, she can't and so is stuck with nothing but the respect of the segments of the public that will hail her for being a modern woman and tough enough to go make her own way (something she'll secretly *despise* with all her being).

Scenario #2: Kate stays, earning the wrath of feminists and the contempt of the public that now realizes that she's not just going to not be a real wife, but also never do charity work as a means of filling the void in her marriage. Feeling no sense of owing anyone anything, she'll likely spend her time jet setting around, 'finding herself' and basically destroying the monarchy since it's clear that she won't do her part. The courtiers will basically ignore her and stop trying to cover for her since there is literally nothing they can do to really make her credible since she's made it clear that William means nothing to her. Since she won't be leaving, she'll be fair game for a vengeful press and everyone will know her marriage is a full sham, nothing more, nothing less.

Scenario #3: The courtiers and William force her out and basically leave her with near nothing and an iron clad gag, preventing her from ever speaking about the marriage or she will experience fines or even jail time. William goes on a rampage, basically shrieking about how he gave into the pressure even though he clearly couldn't cope with the relationship and how he wasn't able to find time to even decide what he wanted outside of royal duties and tells the world about the dirt on the Middleton clan, ending up with the entire Midds in jail/prison and William (after a PR flogging) redeems himself by kissing puppies.

Scenario #4: William and Kate are driven out of Britain and Harry shortly follows with Meghan, alogn with the Yorkies, leaving Princess Anne in charge.

I think ti's likely though that William and the courtiers are going to end up forcing Kate out. Like back in 2005 - early 2007, it is clear that he wants her to make an exit from his life on her own volition and it's also clear that she isn't willing to leave, she's determined to be a victim.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on March 16, 2017, 11:32:10 pm
^Either way, it's going to be a monumental shyte show.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 16, 2017, 11:46:06 pm
The tabloids will go into a feeding frenzy and won't back off.

What will be funny is seeing Katie Nichols and Ingrid Seward trying to put a spin on everything while basically trying not to look like complete and utter idiots after all their sycophancy. I am certain that Katie will have her position as columnist compromised and heaven knows she's going to struggle. Seward, after all her fawning, will end up looking horribly moronic and she'll end up trying not to look like a brainless fool while she tries to take a side.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on March 16, 2017, 11:57:56 pm
^It will be fun watching that pair squirm. Their sugary spew has been nauseating.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 17, 2017, 01:39:42 am
The worst part is, that this was avoidable.

If Kate had gone and lived her own life after he broke up with her the first time, she would be doing her own thing and William would be on track and probably even married to Jecca, or not married at all and figuring out who he really is as a person. He would likely be doing more work, his family would be less slandered, and he and the rest of the RF would have enjoyed HM's Jubilee without the Middleton clan foisting themselves on the float and in the spotlight.

After all the BS she's pulled, she won't be able to leave with anything but her life. The sprogs will be adopted out to a sane family and able to lead a good life.

Pity she foisted herself on William and pressured him to 'do the right thing,' as if she's some lady of the manor being dangled by a cad prince. She was never at any point in her waste of a life a lady and it's not like she ever did right to anyone who couldn't do something for her. Frankly, watching Seward diss the aristocrats and gentry was kind of a slap in the face to that set since they never shunned Seward from covering their lives.

She had gall coming into his life and positioning herself as some kind of authority and as if she had some right to dictate his PR and the course of his life. She had no life of her own and yet she has had the nerve to try to tell him how to live his. Chrissake she should have been slapped with a restraining order and jailed for stalking, but instead, William goes easy on the twit. She had no business pushing him to live according to her expectations.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on March 17, 2017, 03:12:04 am
The tabloids will go into a feeding frenzy and won't back off.

What will be funny is seeing Katie Nichols and Ingrid Seward trying to put a spin on everything while basically trying not to look like complete and utter idiots after all their sycophancy. I am certain that Katie will have her position as columnist compromised and heaven knows she's going to struggle. Seward, after all her fawning, will end up looking horribly moronic and she'll end up trying not to look like a brainless fool while she tries to take a side.

You already know how they'll spin it: Too much pressure from the RF/being in the spotlight for such a "normal" girl.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 17, 2017, 03:36:23 am
Nichols will blame the aristocracy and royal life and courtiers, while the rest of the press will comb over Kate's salacious past like forensic investigators and reveal every sordid detail. I am certain that she'll suffer at the hands of the people she badmouthed her entire life and so many people will come out and talk once Kate and William are no longer in a position to bully or silence anyone. Nurse Jacintha, the editors who lost their jobs and careers, and other students who Kate pushed around. Then professors and teachers will anonymously talk and it'll all fall on her.

As for the issue of the spotlight, she was in the press's eyes since she started dating William and she can't plead youthful inexperience. As for press coverage, she's been relegated to the sidelines since Bin Laden was caught and she's barely been seen in public lately. She can't claim she didn't know what she would be getting into and she's been suing the press since they started photographing her after she became a known quantity. The press itself will go on a rampage if she blames them. She will be in the most helpless position possible, with no defense and no way to blame anyone other than herself.

As for Seward, she will be up a creek; she's praised Kate since day one and frankly I sincerely believe that she will be unable to suddenly turn on Kate without coming across as grossly hypocritical. She recently praised Kate and praised Kate for having the kids. I am certain that she will be in a real bind.

It's only been six short years since the wedding and frankly I am certain that the massive waste of time and money on that wedding will be inexcusable. Just six short years ago they married in that circus of a wedding and started out full of (some) promise and made promises. Now the couple wants out? It won't be allowed to fully unravel easily and a divorce will just crash the House of Windsor all the more badly. Kate and William will be just the same as any couple in that family and William will completely lose what is left of his golden princeliness. Kate will be discredited since after all, her parents are still married and she was supposed to bring an intact family values to his life and just think, she will have let that part of her contribution to the Windsors down.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 17, 2017, 03:46:47 am
^ KF that sham if a so-called wedding/marriage never had any promise whatsoever. PW didn't want her and still doesn't. You can't beat a man down the isle and expect there to be some sort of legality or credibility to the nuptials esp with all of the shenanigans Runty and the Medds put up behind PWs back screams annulment and I believe KM knows through and through she isn't in a legally binding but treasonous "marriage". The question is whether PW realises this and on that note it will be extremely easy to rid himself of the nitwit. It is the bogan spectacle part deux.

This really should be a cake walk for the Winds. Nurse Jacintha  :sob: the sprogs, the alleged cheating for college degree, tanna sidekick, the reasons above, so much more that hasn't been published, uncle fester, drugs, pimping, ma medds grooming KM, etc... this is easy. PW will burn but he won't get buried no matter how much some want him to.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 17, 2017, 04:10:10 am
If he checked into a psych ward and claimed to be insane, Charles could get full guardianship, end the marriage via blasting Kate back to Berkshire, blast the Midds into prison (to await punishment at the hands of enraged courtiers), and then William's past issues can be cited as not having been properly treated (truth actually), the public and press will rake William over the coals, but in the end, William will be able to be redeemed.

He'll be able to explain how the pressure to marry exacerbated his preexisting mental problems and how even after he gave in, Kate and the Midds kept up the pressure to give them things and then how h desperately wanted a real home life, but Kate wouldn't be a wife and real mother to the kids.

Seward can re-earn the favor of the RF by writing books claiming she knew nothing of the entirety of the problems William had and could write books about how she was forced to remain silent about all she had heard about the Midds and how she was fawning due to the fact that she has such a good relationship with the RF that she didn't want to jeopardize it by being critical of Kate. Then she'll be denouncing the Midds and Kate as worse than Diana and Fergie.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: CathyJane on March 17, 2017, 05:34:42 pm
That sounds like the best plan. Willy can't be blamed for this mess, Chucky gets kudos and the Midds are long gone!


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 17, 2017, 06:12:59 pm
I should be a courtier, I really should; I would be able to outfox the Midds every day.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: livylivy on March 17, 2017, 06:50:32 pm
^ I wish you were  :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 17, 2017, 07:13:55 pm
That sounds like the best plan. Willy can't be blamed for this mess, Chucky gets kudos and the Midds are long gone!

The Midds will be left to the not-so-tender 'mercies' of an enraged populace that will want their heads for doing that, putting pressure on someone with mental conditions that were not treated.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyVi on March 18, 2017, 01:25:55 am
Not sure if anyone's mentioned this but, apparently on Sunday there might be an 'interview with the Aussie model from Verbier'

https://nycrealroyal.tumblr.com/post/158514159178/about-sunday-im-not-confirming

(point 2 is about MM)


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 02:40:51 am
Okay I promised Littlelight I would post a few more linls today re the breakup 2007 and I nearly forgot. So here are a few gems:
I know some of these publications are not the most reliable on the internet but they seem to have some of the basic facts so I post the web addresses:
These threats against PW for KMs social and financial benefit are not going to help her in any way. She knew this was in print for years and she also knew PW didn't want her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on March 18, 2017, 02:53:20 am
If the press keeps on Willy, don't think for a minute that anti-Middleton articles won't come fast and ruthless.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 02:59:39 am
^ and so they should. I believe PW has been told he no longer has to keep her. In France he looked good/better than in a while but he seemed tense to have her there with him. She is disgusting. She KNOWS he wants her out and yet she STAYS and REFUSES to leave. Those articles are going to be nasty.

It seems I've timed out and my links did not post afyer all!!! I'll try again.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 18, 2017, 04:26:14 am
I just had a thought.

Kate has a habit of turning on people who she befriends. There seems to be some kind of defect in her character; she has friends, but then turns on them not so much that they are no longer of any use to her, but in the context that she seems to be unable to stop attacking someone. IF she and her family were behind the Verbier story being exposed, it would mean that she's turning on William just like she has her former friends, her old school Downe House, and how she turns on people she really has no legitimate reason to go after. If she's going after William, it means that she's clearly working some kind of old simmering resentment at him, punishing him for some kind of perceived slight or insult or simply a demented idea that since he's 'failed' to be her eternally rescuing prince and 'failed' to give her the life of a princess in her own right, he needs to be chastised or brought into line. She seems to *despise* everyone around her so much, it's like she's loaded with it.

I noticed how she hates the Yorkies, even hates on HM even though HM is her Sovereign and frankly HM hasn't really targeted or abused Kate.

It's clear that she's going to either be divorced on grounds of being insane, or there'll be something else.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 04:34:04 am
^ Oh, I believe it is something else and I have said for a looonng, loong time. There is much dirty deeds she has done that has yet to be completely outed. I believe ahe made a deal for him and is angry because he doesn't want her. I believe he has told her he doesn't want her, doesn't need her and never did, that he realises he does not have to keep her and that she has always known this. I see a woman who knpws PW has finally taken his b*lls back into his own hands and she is angry. Angry because he doesn't care if he humiliates her and after what she has done may want to do just that. I see a man who knows he needs to clean house and tear up the place whilst doing so and when PW finds out all tha KM has done behind his back he's  going to go ballistic and its going to be brutal.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on March 18, 2017, 04:37:43 am
^^KF, I think you've got something there. Sabotage against PW makes sense.  He appears, in those videos, to feel comfortable in his surroundings.   Plus, he hasn't attacked the media, so this may indeed be a volley from Kate and Co. 

Hmmmm.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 18, 2017, 04:41:16 am
One thing I do think, is that for some deranged reason he promised to marry her and they would stay married for a certain number of years. Napoleon once made the same deal with Josephine and after five years as empress, she was asked to voluntarily leave the marriage and she did. I have no idea what on earth would make William agree to such an insane idea, but there it is. it could be that he is tired of how she refuses to be a wife and consort. He's missed out on his party years as a free single man (chained to Kate due to PR purposes) and he's likely waking up.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on March 18, 2017, 04:44:28 am
^Not so sure about that but I do buy into that maybe this isn't that rare of a thing for PW and she went on the attack, subversively, as you mentioned.  I predict rocky shores ahead.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 04:46:47 am
Do you gals think KM and ma medd may be trying  out their Diana gets kicked to the curb routine. KM's constantly copying PDiana... so look for the same stunts Diana pulled when she and PC separated and divorced but a middletrash version. Maybe KMs black dress in Paris was her version of Diana's little black dress (which was stunning btw and looked fantastic on her) and KM tried to upstage PW and show the world what PW is missing even though KM hasn't been officially kicked out yet? Maybe not yet? Maybe if the dress was shorter and trashier? Those days may be upon us sooner rather than later....  :bored:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on March 18, 2017, 02:02:45 pm
^The Diana Playbook will not work for Kate. Diana had the benefit of the public's adoration. There aren't enough sugars to pull off the poor, wronged wife.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyVi on March 18, 2017, 02:23:42 pm
I know this is old news, but did they really ask this to each other and is it a good or bad thing that they did? Apparently the comment Harry made to Will about 'you should wait until you see her' at the wedding is wrong and that he didn't say that to him.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/9f396f9e7b2cb4407eaa3aed84f12c10/tumblr_olq7am9s3x1tc20kuo2_250.gif 

http://68.media.tumblr.com/ca856231f56c1fdbd293a5fd195370e3/tumblr_olq7am9s3x1tc20kuo1_250.gif

There's also this. Kate's face throughout and towards the end when the camera zooms in on her face. She looks quite angry to me and the looks/glances she gives him as he's speaking and in particular where it looks like she's about to speak near the end, but Will starts speaking and she purses her lips...  :nervous:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRxOpa8gdXZ/?taken-by=katemiddletonvideos


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on March 18, 2017, 02:27:25 pm
^^Sure, they will try the Diana gets kicked to the curb tactic to garner sympathy. The Velociraptor is cunning but she's not as smart as she thinks she is. If she was really smart, she would have trained her idiot Potato Head how to act and behave appropriately once she captured the prize. The games over for her. The world knows what she is all about now.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 03:28:24 pm
^The Diana Playbook will not work for Kate. Diana had the benefit of the public's adoration. There aren't enough sugars to pull off the poor, wronged wife.
I quite agree with you in that it won't work but I believe KM and her vile mum have planned for this and will try it anyway. Can you imagine how entertaining it is going to be?  :laugh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Joanna on March 18, 2017, 06:04:56 pm
^^^ Dear heavens, she looks as miserable as sin in that instagram video. I feel sorry for them actually, because they're both in an abusive and toxic relationship. :nervous: Going by their body language and facial expressions, either they're really going through a serious crisis or they're quite simply fed up with each other. Regardless, this doesn't bode well for their marriage. HM's very wise in her saying all this will end in tears, many tears shed from both sides because of all that will happen if a divorce comes through.

 I recall reading in one of this forum's topics that Kate told Chelsy that the cheating came with the territory as if she was some animal to claim "territory", as if they weren't human beings. Anyway, it always sat ill with me the manner in which she dismissed a matter that causes such humiliation and heartache. I understand she might've closed her eyes about the cheating because she had in mind the bigger picture but there's only so much one can take before so much humiliation and suffering destroy one's identity and self-esteem. I suppose she wasn't wise when she dismissed Chelsy's concerns with such a calculating sentence. Anyway I still feel sorry for them, sorry that they choose this path for their lives, but I guess the only way we become better versions of ourselves, better human beings is through the learning that comes with the suffering we endure.  :dontknow: Sorry for getting philosophical. :shy:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on March 18, 2017, 06:09:05 pm
I don't have an iota of pity for them.  They used and abused the public's goodwill, they're lazy, selfish numpties and treat everyone around them like dirt.
That said, call it schadenfreude, but I'm glad they're miserable.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on March 18, 2017, 06:25:16 pm
It's a conscious decision she made; shiny things or self respect. As she's obviously never had any of one she might as well have the other.
You know what, Kate, all the couture in the world won't fill that hole in your soul. One day you'll realise what's missing and it's too late.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on March 18, 2017, 07:28:47 pm
^^^ Dear heavens, she looks as miserable as sin in that instagram video. I feel sorry for them actually, because they're both in an abusive and toxic relationship. :nervous: Going by their body language and facial expressions, either they're really going through a serious crisis or they're quite simply fed up with each other. Regardless, this doesn't bode well for their marriage. HM's very wise in her saying all this will end in tears, many tears shed from both sides because of all that will happen if a divorce comes through.

 I recall reading in one of this forum's topics that Kate told Chelsy that the cheating came with the territory as if she was some animal to claim "territory", as if they weren't human beings. Anyway, it always sat ill with me the manner in which she dismissed a matter that causes such humiliation and heartache. I understand she might've closed her eyes about the cheating because she had in mind the bigger picture but there's only so much one can take before so much humiliation and suffering destroy one's identity and self-esteem. I suppose she wasn't wise when she dismissed Chelsy's concerns with such a calculating sentence. Anyway I still feel sorry for them, sorry that they choose this path for their lives, but I guess the only way we become better versions of ourselves, better human beings is through the learning that comes with the suffering we endure.  :dontknow: Sorry for getting philosophical. :shy:
I don't feel sorry for her. KM is the abusive one here. She abuses PW, the children, the queen, the brf, the taxpayers etc when she stays amd refuses to leave. Thatis psychological and emotional abuse. She knows she is doingwrong but wants to continue to grasp the goodies so wtf should she care?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on March 18, 2017, 07:40:22 pm
No title for Ma. That would ruin her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 18, 2017, 07:44:24 pm
She did so many horrible things throughout her life, that like Becky Sharp, she'll soon lose it all. The pinnacle of society to the gutter is a long horrific fall and she will suffer many pokes as she falls. Once she is in a position where she can't fight back, everyone will pile on her.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on March 19, 2017, 01:01:40 am
It's a conscious decision she made; shiny things or self respect. As she's obviously never had any of one she might as well have the other.
You know what, Kate, all the couture in the world won't fill that hole in your soul. One day you'll realise what's missing and it's too late.

Well said.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Anastasia on March 19, 2017, 02:16:24 am
Unless William falls in love with another woman, I dont see anything happening. She put up with 10 years waiting, she can put up with lots of things. And I am not sure she cares anymore. Shes been trained and shaped to achieve one aim only, it could have been William, or whoever was in his position. Her aim is the crown.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 19, 2017, 02:24:00 am
If William doesn't want her anymore, he'll cut her loose; this recent antic is frankly a sign that ten years ago, it's happening all over again. I think if William realizes that she robbed him of his twenties when he should have been exploring and enjoying life, he'll cut her loose and make sure to make it Hades. He seems to be coming back alive, but this time around, a divorce will have to be done and then naturally she'll be out worse than in 2007.

After this divorce, there will no going back to an anonymous life; she won't be left alone to recover in peace and she won't be able to have a real solid life or career of her own. She won't be able to get a real job (won't know how to handle one) and she won't be able to lead a life of ease (she won't get a fat settlement), and she won't have peace since the press will gang up on her relentlessly. She'll be like Fergie, even worse since the opprobrium will end up being even more intense; with the internet and other stuff, she will not be able to retreat to a life of relative peace.

It's a conscious decision she made; shiny things or self respect. As she's obviously never had any of one she might as well have the other.
You know what, Kate, all the couture in the world won't fill that hole in your soul. One day you'll realise what's missing and it's too late.

Many women think they can live with that void, but the reality is, no woman can and remain sane.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 20, 2017, 10:31:01 pm
Came across this in a comment on RFM Twitter.  Dated 16 December 2016

http://www.hngn.com/articles/221742/20161216/kate-middleton-prince-william-divorce-rumors-duke-cambridge-admits-cheating.htm

Seems like a serial cheater  -  no change there then.

Some interesting bits and pieces on here.

https://twitter.com/royalforummoron?lang=en


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on March 21, 2017, 01:53:50 pm
^ Interesting comments.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 23, 2017, 07:55:20 am
It's a conscious decision she made; shiny things or self respect. As she's obviously never had any of one she might as well have the other.
You know what, Kate, all the couture in the world won't fill that hole in your soul. One day you'll realise what's missing and it's too late.

Not much by way of couture; no designer duds, mainly from the outlet stores and she's clearly not raking in the jewels. She wasn't even smart when it came to selling herself. Much of her clothes have loose threads and are not quality stitched together.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadySnowWhite on March 23, 2017, 07:55:26 pm
I don't think they'll ever divorce.  I think they have an open marriage, and I think their "marriage" is more of a contract agreement than a true union anyways.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 23, 2017, 08:04:36 pm
William wanted more than an open marriage and frankly, the public won't have patience for it. He has no right to mess around and it's not like he didn't have endless choices and chances. It's not like he didn't get cheered on for finding true love and if he wanted a pragmatic marriage, he should have married someone who would bring advantages to him and his nation, not the Middletons. Kate might function in such a match, but you can see she's DYING to get real love and clearly wishes she had married someone else; a title is a title, but she's chosen to latch on to the man and end up ruining her life and ruining his.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadySnowWhite on March 23, 2017, 08:44:02 pm
She seems so cold and detached, I don't get the impression she wants true love.  She has "love" from her family, she seems more interested in being financially taken care of love than having a true companionship of love and care from a man.  I wouldn't be surprised if she was actually asexual and had no interest in romantic intimacy.   

She was probably embarrassed by the publicity of William with other women, but I wouldn't be surprised if his actual actions were something she did not care about. I feel like they have agreed to live together and perform the double act together for the world, but otherwise lead completely separate lives.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 23, 2017, 09:24:53 pm
She's fiercely ambitious, all her athletic accomplishments show that; she hits where she aims, I give her that.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 16, 2017, 02:12:15 pm
Inside Prince William & Kate’s Secret Marriage Counseling Sessions

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http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/prince-william-kate-middleton-marriage-counseling/amp/


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 16, 2017, 04:01:14 pm
I very much doubt he cares whether he is in the dog house or not, this is the man who went to Jecca´s wedding in SA at Easter last year and only told her when he got to the airport  -  does that sound like a man in the dog house  -  I think not.  Anotehr council caro leak no doubt. 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on May 16, 2017, 05:51:48 pm
^^

Waity would put up with anything to hang on to Bill and everyone knows it.  Yes GB, a council caro leak.



Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 16, 2017, 06:59:26 pm
The doghouse?

He owns it all and I am certain he has reminded her of that; he can come and go as he pleases and it's likely that he no longer cares about her feelings. Skipping Easter to go to a woman's wedding people suspect is his mistress and one true love is likely a clear distinct sign that Kate's feelings are no longer relevant and he no longer wants to placate her. I think he's going to wake up one day and realize that he's destroyed his best years and then he will either start divorce proceedings on grounds that will exculpate him or he will simply break and remain a hostage to his deranged wife for the rest of his life.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on May 17, 2017, 12:25:44 am
Remember during his ski trip PW looked and sounded like he was saying, "I'm free!" and drinking the menu... I said it then and I will say it again: PW has been told he is no longer being forced to keep KM in his life and he has the green light to throw her out and annul her and marry his true love who is a woman no one sees coming because many people have kept busy pushing the lies in favour of Jecca and Isabella both of whom cannot and will never be able to compete. So what is he waiting for? The woman to say yes. Mark my words.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2017, 06:50:36 am
This is chillingly like a repeat of the 2007 breakup when it looked like Kate's  ambitions would be dashed and she would end up with nothing. I wager Kate had PTSD flashbacks and is getting nervous. Certainly she isn't at all calm and while divorce can't be impossible, the reality is that a divorce would literally crash things up for William. How on earth could he ever manage to rehabilitate himself after that. It would be scandalous along the lines of someone getting a divorce back in the 1950's since WK's persona was built on the fairy-tale and I am certain that she wouldn't go quietly.

I do think however that William might be announcing that he is free from having any feelings toward her and may very well end up staying married, but doing as he pleases no matter how much it hurts or humiliates Kate. I am sure he's not even going to put up a pretense of discretion. He might in fact be the only modern prince who will start flaunting his affairs even more openly than even Charles dared. If he starts becoming open to the point of making rounds with Jecca or other women, I cannot fathom how she'll manage. Staying and suffering will be her lot in life. I think she's entering a hostage stage of the marriage.

By that I mean the tables will turn; instead of dictating to him and using Carole, he will end up giving her the finger each time she starts whining and either walk away to go out around the town with some floozy or he'll just mock and insult her right back. It's clear that he's souring on the Middletons and it's clear that he's restless and eager to have something different in his life rather than the current double act that has gone stale.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on May 17, 2017, 07:03:11 am
One thing I've noticed that we don't see anymore is PW photographed with the Middletons.  I bet you're right about him being awakened where they are concerned, KF. 

It's a huge red flag for me anyway.  He's cut the cord I think so the next step is, yes, to freeze Kate out.  I'd bet she spends more time in Buckleberry than we will ever know.  Wouldn't shock me at all.  She doesn't thrive well at alll without  her daily dose of communal dysfunction.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 17, 2017, 07:19:50 am
I think at this point in time, after six years, their marriage is such a sham that he's reached the breaking point and soon it'll be a lot more public. Kate is in the worse position than Diana since Kate can't play the innocent ingenue car and she cannot at all claim to be the injured virginal wife. I think that given William's cunning (that Kate helped nurture and certainly used to her advantage) he'll start laying groundwork and take his time, first disentangling himself emotionally and psychologically and then in time, he'll be so dead to her emotionally and psychologically that he'll treat her like furniture and not show an anger or resentment, just a dead indifference. He won't even pretend to include her and will not at all bother even trying to connect. Even if she tries, he won't at all even get upset or irritated, just give her a brief acknowledgement of her existence and go about the life he wants for himself without bothering to find out if it would fit her schedule or something she would like to have planned for him.

When Henry VIII was losing interest in Anne Boleyn, it didn't happen overnight. After the disappointment if Elizabeth being born he tried again and again, but ended up losing each child he grew less loving. With her tantrums and explosions, he grew irritated and lashed back out and didn't bother trying to placate her. In time the courtiers fell away from her and she was just a kind of odd appendage. Anne had the title and privileges, but there was a coolness on the part of some former allies and it's not like the French or Spanish ambassador were the same in regards to deference and admiration. At some point Henry's love just went up and died and basically he ordered her arrested, charged a few small-fry courtiers with adultery, accused Anne of witchcraft and incest, and then the court ruled as they knew he wanted them to rule.

Kate is clearly doing more work, but I think she's reaching a point where she realizes just how much trouble she's in and she's trying to make a positive impact, but keeps getting it all wrong. Her attempts to sound maternal are coming across as more irritating and pathetic and her (possible) attempts to right several wrongs are not taking hold. I do not think that she's at a point where she can realistically only hope to stay a little while longer and become able to land on her feet and with her skin on her back. She has no chance at really turning things around and how on earth can she possibly win the favor of HM or Charles or any powerful person. I think she's been living in fear for the past six or so months for some reason.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on May 17, 2017, 01:50:36 pm
She deserves to live in fear considering all she has done. Evil woman.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: CathyJane on May 18, 2017, 09:00:58 pm
As well as Ma. They both are cunning, evil and have no hearts.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 31, 2017, 08:49:59 am
He can't leave her.

After he announced the engagement, he passed the point of no return. I am certain that he made it clear to Fate that this is the direction he wanted to go in and so he sealed his future. There's no going back and undoing all the damage and there's no trying to get his 'true love' (Jecca or who knows who else) and since Jecca is married, it would nuke him if she left her husband to marry him. A double divorce and remarriage would in fact finish him off even worse. Like it or not, he has to consider what the press would think and I am sure the press would tear him and Jecca to shreds. No chance of a fairy-tale 'true love conquers all' and just think, if he had managed to avoid marrying Kate I wager he would in fact have been able to marry Jecca.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on May 31, 2017, 09:17:57 am
I agree with you, it is a path without return, especially with children, he should pray for his wife and put in the hands of God. The Bible says that the husband is the head of a home, just as Christ is the head of the Church, he married her, now he must take responsibility for his acts and love her and respect her until the end of his days  :sigh: :cookie:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on May 31, 2017, 11:08:28 am
^^ Nope. PW can annul her and be done with it. He can marry again and he can marry his true love and that sure isn't Jecca. I don't understand this belief that of all the people in the world ONLY Prince William cannot remarry. I'm  willing to bet even HE knows that just isn't the case esp since there is sooo much of this crapfest that hasn't been made public.

Uh, no, with all due respect PW does not owe to pray for or take care of this horrid, vile woman until the end of days. PW cannot be forced to love KM and he certainly doesn't owe her a damn thing esp at the expense of his liberty and at the expense of the taxpayers, his subjects, backsides. You know the saying "The white man has one foot on my neck and one foot up my arse" well, I will apply it to the good people of UK and Commonwealth and say PW owes us better than that and he needs to get off his fycking arse and man up and get rid of these arseholes already. No offence meant to either FN or KF :flower: but enough is enough already. :bat:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Sheridan_is_appalled on May 31, 2017, 01:10:41 pm
^^ His father did it and somehow got away with it. William is by no means stuck with Kate, I think he knows she's a thorn in The Firm's side and that's just his passive aggressive way of exacting revenge because MUMMY. He thinks he's clever, but he's as transparent as they get.
I also don't believe HM has a 'no divorce' rule, every single one of her egg head spawn, with the exception of Edward, have been divorced.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 31, 2017, 03:12:15 pm
^and ^^ Totally agree.  The only person stopping that vilew bill medd from kicking her to the kerb is himself, payback to the rf for what "he thinks" they did to Diana.  If he feels that strongly against the rf then just stand down and stuff off out of sight, the public are not his fans, he has shown himself to be an incredibly, lazy, petulant, greedy and grasping individual with the taxpayer funding it all.  Foisting sprogs on to the taxpayer as well, plus the vile medds riding the bandwagon.  If he had to use his own money that would be a whole different matter, he doesn´t.  The medds have dragged the rf into the gutter, haza looking at going even furthe down the gutter with murkle if he weds her.  The Terrible Twins as master of their own fate, and is them, and them alone, doing all the damage to themselves and the rf. They also both show dreadful judgement  of people, they do like sleaze don´t they.  He can get rid of her, I am sure HM would be relieved and fly the flags.  My mother always said to me there is no such word as can´t, exchange it for I can  -  he is not tied to her, he should, in effect, hold all the ace cards, so what is stopping him  -  bitterness towards the rf for his mother, forgetting and ignoring the fact that if not for them he would be a nobody, ´cos he sure as h*ll is one unattractive male with no other redeeming features, and a right nasty so and so into the bargain.  The girls would run a mile if he was your normal man in the street  -  that ugly mug for a start looks as it it belongs in the Addams family, wonder if he is related to them  lol  Nothing, absolutely nothing, in this day and age is irreversible.  The rf have gone downhill, the family members are all dysfunctional andhave the most awful "hobbies".  HM needs to get her a$$ out of that sand bucket, wise up and get shot of them, I am afraid many now see the "trio" as they care called as thoroughly unpleasant and no good to the rf going forward.  Why HM does nothing about it is beyond me, all very well saying she wants to go out on a high, but she will go out as one of the weakest monarchs because she is too gutless to stand firm and do something about it all.  Wonder if the medds have evidence of bill medd taking medication and many other acts from when he was at Maison de Bang Bang  -  bet that place was full of one way mirrors and hidden cameras. Does make you wonder, because they sure have a stronghold on bill medd, one way or another.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 31, 2017, 06:57:15 pm
William and Harry don't seem to get it that you can't spot a user right away; it's usually an adding up of signs and traits that make up the whole. I myself have a criteria through which I decide if whether or not someone is a user and troublemaker. If William had paid attention to Kate's alleged temper tantrums and possessiveness, along with the fact that she allegedly tried to take over how he handled the press/PR, he would have run and then filed a restraining order. I am certain that he should have listened to his friends and told him to get rid of her and get on with his life. In the US one of the things they warn people about is whether or not the person you're with calls too much (she supposedly texted him during one meal) and I do believe that he wouldn't accept that what he does and how he acts affects nations. He didn't, wouldn't listen and he should stay married to the psychopath. Normal men can walk away, but if he ends up leaving her, he will make his nation look like a fool. He would have to go to Parliament and petition for a divorce and no one will forgive him. If he tries to basically clima he has the same rights as normal men, it will look like a slap in the face since he used that to be able to marry Kate.

There's no going back for him or starting fresh. A decade ago he could have pulled it around, but I am certain that he made the mistake of taking her back.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on May 31, 2017, 07:17:35 pm
^Understand what you are saying, but I think you might find that many of the British population would be arranging street parties if he divorced her and sent her packing with her vile family, they are not well regarded over her, their laziness, greedy, grasping ways, using the taxpayer to fund the medds in many ways, the line of succession debacle, too many know too much about most of what they do/have done, and they don´t like it.  Look at GQ article, no doubt the apaid trolls/sugars arrived eventually, but man, they were so scathing it was untrue.  Many are teed off about the Diana card being trotted out at every tiff and turn, those photos, cobbled together badly, were a big joke.  Let him divorce, maybe a decent girlfriend would make him a nicer person, who knows, can´t get much worse can he. They have done irrepairable damage to the British rf, in many countries, and I actually think many would respect HM for doing the decent thing and sorting all this out.  We keep seeing council cath, when she does turn up, in expensive, horrid frocks, she has not earned the money to buy those dire creations, mostly foreign designers, can´t even fly the British flag for fashion.  Right now HM is viewed and weak and ineffectual  with regard to the vile duo and the medds, there would be more respect if woke up, put her foot down and sorted out the whole situation.  She has allowed herself to be made a laughing stock world wide.  No fan and do not support bill medd, but if HM had nipped all this in the bud, even back to 2013, then she would have more respect.  Many articles say that the respect people has for her is because of her long reign, not because she is weak willed and too scared to stand up to her two grandsons who are the ones making her a laughing stock.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyVi on June 01, 2017, 08:41:49 pm
^@Gingerboy24 Agreed :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on June 01, 2017, 11:25:42 pm
I am not a fan of divorce. Why have marriages at all if anyone can divorce at the drop of a hat for any reason or no reason at all? Seems pointless.

I guess that is why so many these days are choosing to move in together and not get married, even after the children are born. At least they're honest about their intentions: together for convenience or until someone better comes along, and of course many want to have kids but don't want to wait around forever for the "perfect" co-parent, especially women, who have a biological clock to consider.  :dontknow:

I am not a fan of Kate, never liked her even from the beginning, but they've been together for a long time (officially since December 2003 when Kate and her ex broke up, but were boinking before then) and I think they should try to work things out, especially now that they are raising two children together.  :flower:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on June 01, 2017, 11:29:30 pm
Leogirl can assure you that my divorce was most certainly not 'at the drop of a hat'. And I now live with the person I do because I love them dearly. Neither of us are waiting for something better at all. That post is actually quite offensive though I'm sure you didn't mean it to be.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on June 02, 2017, 12:04:13 am
^ I am not suggesting that every divorce is at the drop of a hat.  :sorry:

I understand that some people really need a divorce for very serious reasons. But I don't see evidence of W&K having these sort of problems. Divorce rates used to be under 5% (people were shocked/horrified when they read in the papers that the divorce rate had reached 10%) and now they are much higher. Most divorces are from low-conflict marriages; I think more people need to work things out and not just leave when they get bored or find a new interest. JMO, most people would probably disagree with me and see nothing wrong with getting divorced and starting new relationships as many times as they please (no fault divorce).  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on June 02, 2017, 12:15:25 am
Fair enough. I do agree that some people are serial monogamists. A neighbour is on marriage 4. Each one married in less than a year of meeting. You'd think they'd see where they're going wrong, but no. The cycle goes on.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 02, 2017, 02:42:26 pm
Many people marry and find out that they have made a huge mistake.  There is no shame in divorce, never should have been, things go wrong.  Dreadful to spend your life in misery, only have one life, at least live it happily.  I divorced my husband, broke my heart to do it, gave him so many chances, but there comes a point when you realise that it just is not working, it is not easy to man up and realise you made a huge mistake, but why live a life of total misery.    From what I see and hear about the lazy duo, they are not happy at all.  Their body language is positively arctic, they have no bond with the sprogs (or one another), pretty obvious from photos and videos.  She looks as miserable as sin, he only looks okay when he goes on engagements without her.  In fact she is better on solo engagements as well, at least she is not getting the evil eye from bill medd.  He has a wife he has to stand next to, in public, knowing full well that the world has seen her naked crotch - which was on dart boards in garages all over Australia and being gawped at and tittered about), butt gate  - full skirted frock exiting a helicopter - doh!) and boob gate, where she knew the terrace could, if wanted, be seen from a public road.  A wife who loves to flash her wares any way she can, example Bhutan War Memorial  -  known for being a windy area and she wears a mega full skirted frock.  Practically begs to hump Ben Ainslie in public, and that is the tip of the iceberg.  I personally would not, in any way, shape or form, call that a happy marriage. To me they look as though they can´t stand the sight of one another any more.  He pushes off on a boys weekend and does stupid dancing ad gets videoed, wannabe models there, probably giving him whatever he wanted, pushed off to Jecca´s wedding, only told council cath when he got to the airport t catch the flight, missing Easter with his "family" does not spell a happy marriage either, no respect for her or the sprogs.  I cannot imagine many men who would be happy to stand next to a wife whose most personal, intimate body parts had been displayed internationally in the media/internet, front page on newspapers,  wherever.  If that constitutes a happy marriage, then God alone knows what constitutes a miserable one.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 02, 2017, 04:21:09 pm
Maybe this is snotty, but as royals, they have no business just up and leaving once they get bored with something. If William had dropped Kate instead of marrying her back in 2010, it would have been a lesson for women everywhere not to bet on getting a man to marry them in order to be taken care of, while it would have taught men that they're under no obligation to marry someone just because they've been with them a long time; it would have taught both that neither are obligated to each other while just dating and neither have to stay if it isn't good for one party or another.

Now, instead, William married Kate, which is what cut him off from any kind of future that he may have wanted for himself. No one at the top takes him seriously since after all, ohw can he be considered strong when he was so easily browbeaten into marriage? Second, the issue of divorce is bigger since he's a future head of state and this is how it is. He can't just shove her off now that a commemorative coin and official portraits have been done. He can't just shrug this off now that he's made the biggest mistake of his life and think he can just go on as if he and his wife haven't damaged so many lives since marrying.

As far as I'm concerned, let his miserable marriage be his penance.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Spotted Dick on June 02, 2017, 04:26:44 pm
^Couldn't have said it better myself, GB24.  I can't believe this is just a case of Willy sticking it to the RF.  Sometimes he really looks like he's suffering almost as much as the RF.  I would love to know what is really going on there and if they have some serious dirt on him.

Can you imagine if the RF ever pushed Willy boy out a la Duke of Windsor.  It would be hilarious to see the Midds scrambling to off load him.  Like rats jumping off a sinking ship.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on June 02, 2017, 07:19:21 pm
I see sort of a pattern of spousal abuse going on with these two.  PW's out of control paranoia for privacy may not be so much anti-media as possible exposure of egregious behavior.  She seems to get even by acting out and going overboard in phony happy faces as well as shunning work. 

Add to that their constant drumming on about mental health and whining in public interviews is a classic cry for an excuse and validation that he deserves to be cruel because he was hurt in life.  It wouldn't shock me in the slightest that it is a nightmare in their private life.

So if all of this is even remotely true, a divorce is the only responsible move for the well being of all concerned but especially their children.  He is never going to grow up and change.  Neither is she.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on June 02, 2017, 07:27:21 pm
^Perhaps the abuse is two-way with KM abusing him by scamming her way into his life and refusing to leave the man alone for all these years and still she won't just leave him and his life alone? Perhaps PW yells at her and is cruel to her for that very reason alone. I am not saying PW is in the right or in the wrong but it is clear KM is the heavy here always was and always wil be. She is the cause of PW anguish. I don't know which poster said she believes PH was talking about PW when he said he was full of rage and on the verge of a mental breakdown but I agree with her and I say if PW is in fact on the verge of a mental breakdown and full of rage it undoubtably is because KM just won't go away. I believe an annulment is the solution. Well, part of it anyway. :thumbsup: Poor PW, the poor man... as my former kidnapper said, "Someone had to be born the heir to the heir to the throne of England (GB)!" This is so horrible for PW :hug: and for so many others :hug:....


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 02, 2017, 07:32:55 pm
Maybe I'm sadistic, but I do think that they deserve each other.

If William hits the singles market as a divorced dad, it will be clear that he is thinking about finding a new wife that will take him places and do all the work. I do believe that if Kate were an amazing success and taking him places, that he would be happier with her. The same with Kate; if he were wining and dining her in the fashionable capitals of the world and taking her to the ballet and opera while showering her with jewels, she would be a happier better wife. They didn't marry with love, but more of an understanding with conflicting expectations. She didn't marry him for a life in the countryside.

Someone 'just going away' isn't going to work but is in fact his job to file an order for her to stop stalking him; he also should have asserted himself with friends and basically asked them to stop letting her in their clubs and stop taking her around town. He could have ordered them as a prince to put a stop to feeding her delusions and asked the courtiers to record all incidents of her being around him and build a case with a prosecutor. he should have been an adult and taken charge of things and taken charge of his life instead of being passive and deciding to basically abdicate all responsibility for his life.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on June 02, 2017, 07:39:41 pm
I'm sorry but I don't believe abuse is acceptable in any form and it is sadistic to wish it on anyone, anywhere. It only escalates to dangerous emotional and physical dimensions.  No one deserves that in life.  The problem with the BRF in this case if that's what's going on, and I believe it is, is that they never self-police themselves.  They hide everything until it gets out of control or they exhibit irrational behavior.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: deGuernsey on June 02, 2017, 07:51:44 pm
^ Yes, I do say I believe it is hapening and has been for years now most likely even before 2011 but KM is the heavy. I do believe an annulment is what should happen. PW should put his big boy pants on and deal with it already. Brutally, swiftly and accept that there will be some badness and anger coming his way even if he didn't initialy put himself into his position and it clearly wasn't what he set out in life to do. I don't believe he wanted this for his life or for the BRF. It makes much more sense that telling each other off and losing his hair over it. That unpleasantness is preventable and thoroughly unneccessary. Simply annul the bytch. Ta da. No more, no more and believe me when I say I believe it is just that simple and it should be, too.  It's over means a complete cessation and that is what is needed. Absolutely. Competely. Over. And long overdue.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Spotted Dick on June 02, 2017, 08:02:47 pm
^Yes, but on what grounds could he annul the marriage?  I'm sure they must've consummated their marriage at least once....


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 02, 2017, 08:16:16 pm
They can't say neither knew what they were doing, they can't claim affinity, and he can't claim he was mentally ill or disabled. An annulment would do worse since the kids would be ineligible to inherit the crown and basically he would get crucified even worse. The Midds would be humiliated mainly since they would realize that their daughter would be branded his mistress of up to sixteen years. That would do even worse.

If he wants out, he has to man up and basically get the divorce and be branded all kinds of names.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on June 02, 2017, 11:59:21 pm
Practically every relative of PW has been divorced.  It's not ideal and it's unfortunate but I don't see it shaking the foundation of the universe.  Lots of media but then they'll bring up his dad, his uncle, and so on.  It happens.  It's not like the BRF are this classy bunch anymore.  They're borderline tabloid celebrities devoid of any evidence of discernment so where's the shock value now?

No, an annulment is unavailable to him.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 03, 2017, 01:16:37 am
He was warned and told nonstop to dump her. He had every chance to get rid of her, but for some sick reason wants Kate and wanted her as a wife.

Ever since he's been born he's had every chance to take control in his own right and basically live a fabulous life. He could have studied like crazy and trained to have serious qualifications to become an ambassador. While he wouldn't hold a formal position it would equip him to assist in embassies and act as a sounding board to a trade delegation or be part of the delegation. He could have gone well and beyond the ornamental if he wanted.

But no.

He messed around and had the gall to think that he was entitled to:

Marrying whoever he wants no matter how shady her background
Marry someone who clearly was in-equipped to handle the personal and professional expectations
Marry someone who wouldn't be able to add any luster to the BRF and promote the nation
Get a major role in anything he wanted despite not paying the dues of the others in said profession
Having the gall to sue and persecute the press and think he has a right to positive press on whim
Give a finger to the public and defend Kate's slovenliness

As far as I'm concerned, he has no business just shrugging his shoulders and asking the abused courtiers to help him out. Let that miserable marriage be his penance and frankly no sympathy from me. He has no business asking for anything from anyone.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: jackiew on June 04, 2017, 06:36:44 pm
Whether William or Kate wants a divorce or not I feel that the Queen should order them to divorce as soon as possible. The longer this sham goes on the longer the Midds will continue to drag the monarchy down. This is bigger than W&K its about the survival of the Windsors.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 05, 2017, 01:54:27 pm
 I am sorry but I still think they should divorce.  It is no fun being in a marriage that does not work any more, and especially for what has gone on here.  They both look utterly miserable when together, he glares at her, and some of the looks she give him are just as bad, when she thinks the camera is not on her.  I am not of the opinion that they live together any more, but just come together for show at engagements.  Look how he told her to leave his arm alone at the kids garden party at BP.  That was so unnecessary, and the look on his face, it was no joke.  She has flashed all her intimate parts to the world, how does he feel about that because most men would be very angry, each time she flashes she does not learn, and it happens again  -  Bhutan War Memorial for me was the worst, visiting a country on official tour, knowing it is a windy part of the world, and at a War Memorial makes it ten times worse. 

I have been in a marriage that turned out to be a mistake, I stuck it out as far as I could, hoping things would improve.  They did not.  To save my sanity I knew I had to go, not an easy thing to do, or decision to make, but I am of the opinion that no matter who you are, you do make mistakes, and as we all only have one life to live, this life is not a dress rehearsal, then why stay married to someone who makes you utterly miserable and causes you so many problems. Don't care for bill medd, not one bit, but I still don't think he deserves to have to stay in such a miserable marriage, let him have some life with a decent woman.   It appears to me she seems to bring out the worst in him, and he gets angry and annoyed, that spills into every area of his life, you can't just switch off such misery with the press of a button.  I can't think of anyone I dislike enough to wish them to stay in the kind of miserable marriage that those two have.  Let them move forward seperately, do their own thing, and live a happy, content life.  At the moment they both appear bitter and angry, about everything, so why waste the only life you have, just sort things out and go.  It is not impossible, even for bill medd.  As for financial worries, where to live, how can you afford to keep two homes going etc., well, the taxpayer takes care of that, not him, he would not be out of pocket at all.  The difference in him when on solo engagements is truly amazing, and pretty obvious to a lot of people how much happier he is when she is not around, that speaks volumes.  The courtiers/TPTB would be doing all the work involved in untangling this situation, he would not even have to do that.  All he has to do is make the decision, tell council cath and then HM, TPTB can be wheeled on and the rest is history.

I personally would back bill medd every inch of the way if he manned up and made the decision to divorce council cath.  I have no change of mind, I still dislike  him, but nobody, including him, deserves to live a miserable life with someone they no longer want, or even appear to like, and he can get rid of those vile inlaws too at the same time.  I say give the guy a break and let him get on with his life and find happiness somewhere one day, rather than be incarcerated in this miserable, cold relationship (if you can call it a relationship...).  Take all that pent up rage out on her and her family, not his family and the people in general.  He is full rage and anger, about time he calmed down and actually made a move and did something about it, long overdue.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 05, 2017, 04:31:42 pm
The courtiers shouldn't be expected to lift a finger after all he's pulled.

Bashed the courtiers and pushed them around
Bashed his own family and pushed them around
Insulted the press so much and destroyed careers/livelihoods/reputations
Shirked his duties nonstop

He made that choice. Let him suffer a few more years and then we'll see how things go and if he decides to be enough of a man.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on June 05, 2017, 08:00:41 pm
I concur, gb24. It is sometimes tragic when a marriage ends, for others, a relief. But I'd say it's fairly twisted for anybody to suggest the continuation of an unhappy marriage as penance.  Thank goodness we in the western world don't live in that type of society.

My feeling is there would be much forgiveness for PW should he finally take the step of divorcing the Middleton's. He needs to take back his children from the control of CM. Her record is abysmal and how she has managed to grasp such control over PG is astonishing. The Middleton Mediocrity has permeated the RF and that's what comes to mind now when people think of the RF.

PW's immaturity and rage allowed it to happen but that's not to say he can't have an awakening as to the danger he has wrought, realign with his loving father and the rest of his blood family, and get on with his job. Perhaps with the obvious unhappiness of his own unequal relationship, PW is now more understanding of why his parents had to split.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on June 06, 2017, 08:59:06 pm
Who was born in my time, in the stage of Diana still alive, with stories of princesses, and created love for the history of his mother, can only wish that he be happy, I do not want him to ever separate, I wish him to be Very happy with KM until the last day of his life, and God bless him and KM, giving wisdom to lead life, to pray for each other in difficult times, and I do not see in them, at least in the few photos , Signs of sadness or separation, I believe his love is sincere for her, or he would not have married her, and hers for him is sincere, or she would not have waited so long for a request for marriage, Be happy, and never apart  :hug: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on June 07, 2017, 12:35:57 am
It's difficult to say. Body language is bad, but it could also be because they're in public and William still has unresolved mental health issues about what happened to his mother: he blames the press in general for what happened, and is angry at commoners/taxpayers because they want photos of himself and his wife and children (causing the photographers to be out there in the first place). It could just be him being overprotective and going about it the wrong way. No way to tell how much time they actually spend together or what they're like in private because we don't have cameras in their homes.

Regarding Jecca, I think she and William are just good friends. If he wanted her, why didn't he marry her? And she married someone else as well. I don't buy the "true love" story when they both married other people. I also think it's unfair when people assume they had an affair. Kate told Chelsy that [cheating] "comes with the territory" meaning she sort of expected William to cheat at least while they were dating, but I don't think it's right to call Jecca a s**t/w***e (which is what she'd be if she slept with a married man and also cheated on her husband now that she's married as well; very serious accusation) unless there's proof.

Fernanda does have a good point. If they didn't want to be together, they wouldn't have married. He would have moved on after their breakup in 2007. And she must have really wanted to marry him, because waiting around for nearly 7 years to get a ring (Kate and her ex broke up in December 2003; she and William didn't get engaged until October 2010), when they were out of uni before their 2nd anniversary (graduated in June 2005), many women would have left what appeared to be a dead-end relationship and found someone else.

If there is something wrong, I think the first step should be to try and work things out, especially now that there are children involved and it's not like they just got married and want to get it annulled. They knew each other for 9+ years at the time of their wedding so it's not like they didn't know each other that well. Divorce should only be used as a last resort or if someone's life is in danger.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 07, 2017, 12:50:43 am
Kate would never leave as long as there was a sliver of a chance to get that ring and title. William isn't just any man (no matter how much he likes to think) and I do think she bet on someone not being willing to get mixed up in a public cat fight or that others would lead lives of their own.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on June 27, 2017, 09:11:17 pm
Body language: furious crotch pressing and keeping their distance. :Carole:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/20/14/4194020A00000578-4620812-image-a-101_1497967060582.jpg


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on June 28, 2017, 12:47:40 pm
The Idiot Prince looking like more of an idiot than usual with that top hat on his long oblong horse head smashing his hands into his crotch gazing at his Exhibitionist Tart of a Wife who is simultaneously smashing her purse into her crotch wearing her latest attempt to expose herself in that see through lace dress with that ridiculous fascinator perched on her blown up filler face Potato Head.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 28, 2017, 01:00:59 pm
No one takes him seriously as a gentleman at the races, not after all his disgusting antics and I am certain that both are fed up with the other. He won't let go since who would have him, along with the fact that she clings since without him she would have a spectacular social fall.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 28, 2017, 02:35:20 pm
If you look at his eyes he is looking at that ridiculous fascinator she is wearing.  What a frock for the races, everyone can see the outline of her ghastly, chunky legs.  Tart of the Year and no mistake.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: jackiew on June 28, 2017, 04:29:54 pm
^ :laugh: Ginger.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on June 28, 2017, 08:22:07 pm
I do not believe that he divorces her, almost half of his life was next to her, I hope they are happy :sigh:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2017, 02:49:31 am
If WK divorce, the nation will have been played for fools. I don't think William will really be able to justify why he wanted out and why it didn't work.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on June 29, 2017, 05:58:31 am
^ People might act shocked, but deep down it would not be surprising at all. Why did it take him so long to propose if he was so in love? He knew her for 9 years before proposing and dated her (at least 'officially') for almost 7. It doesn't take that long to get to know someone. And they were out of uni for 5 years by that point. He settled and wasn't willing to take some time to be single and look for someone else. There is a reason couples who date for long periods of time before getting married tend to have high divorce rates.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2017, 06:12:34 am
I think at this point in time, that a divorce would in fact cause a huge deflation; a lot of underlying feelings and thoughts would surface and I am certain that it would kill off the fairy-tale for good and basically it would probably bring in a lot of much-needed reality. I don't believe that it's something too many people want to face, that people from similar backgrounds and values in fact are better off. Regrettably I don't think a lot of people want to face that. For some reason, there is this kind of NEED for a fairy-tale and that the thought of someone equal marrying someone who is the same would make people face a reality that would be too much for them. The press has had their narrative and I am certain that it will in fact cause problems with the reporters who hounded William to adhere to the fairy-tale. William would in fact be scarping this off of his shoes for the rest of his life.

If he had stood firm in 2007 and told the press to get over their fairy-tale narrative, he would have kind of killed off a party for the mainstream press, but he would have ended up maturing and in a way, forcing many royal watchers to grow up and stop  making a child of him. Then he would have left his mother's baggage behind and I am certain that the whole past triangle would have in fact be dead news and he would have less on his shoulders. I don't think he's at a point where he can handle the fairy-tale anymore and I do think that he's in fact going to go up in a major way at some point. Kate was clearly going to have to be dealt with firmly, but that is adulthood and I am sure he would have felt better and lighter in the long run. Too bad she clung on. I think she hates being married to him, wishes she could in fact live large without him, but she made her mess and has no real way out.

Imagine going from HRH to literally nothing; Diana had "lady Diana Spencer," but Kate wouldn't even have the flimsy gentry status that Fergie was born into and I don't think Kate would retain an HRH or even courtesy title.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: kolkomilko on June 29, 2017, 07:54:09 am
Their unhappiness strikes our eyes looking at them. Their divorce  is just a matter of time.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Val on June 29, 2017, 08:02:17 am


The Middletons are so detested and reviled by most here in the UK and they would like to put them all on a non returnable rocket to Mars.  They will go down as the most disliked family in history.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2017, 08:49:03 am
The Middletons are likely as bad as the Boleyns were when Anne Boleyn was Queen Consort; no one liked how the Boleyns pushed everyone around and then many rejoiced in the downfall of the Boleyns after Anne's execution. Thing is, that William will likely go down along with them.

Neither got what the other thought would be provided to them via this marriage. William wanted a family life and domestic stability while Kate wanted titles for her family, positions for her family, and for herself plenty of jewels and couture to fill a palace. Pity; if Kate had continued to play her cards right, been a wife and consort, she would have likely been able to do something for her family, but she didn't think she would have to continue to be as she advertised. Thing is, that William failed to assert himself at a critical time and Kate refused to let him go and live the life he was born to lead.

If either leaves that marriage, each loses what little specialness that each has left. Kate will be just another ex-consort while William will be another divorced royal prince and will be no better than his father and I am certain that royal commentators will seethe after all that fawning they gave the couple. At least Diana and Charles lasted longer and I do wonder if whether or not the Windsors will be able to realistically be able to handle the fallout. Yet again, the signs of unsuitability, the scathing books about Kate will be released, while at the same time, William will have to scramble to basically rebuild his image.

As for Kate, how will she live? She will lose all she's had for a long time and William's life is the life she's used to.

Their unhappiness strikes our eyes looking at them. Their divorce  is just a matter of time.

They were never going to be good for one another. Some people are just destined to meet up, but go in different directions and never pair up. They were never meant to be a married couple and neither were meant to even be anything to each other beyond being fellow students.

 


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on August 08, 2017, 04:45:15 pm
WTF? :nervous:
http://68.media.tumblr.com/fdbdfc83ada3cd579e5e1668e1aba097/tumblr_ouapd0ZTVU1uctujfo2_500.gif


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 08, 2017, 05:05:57 pm
What is it meant to be, makes no sense.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: leogirl on August 08, 2017, 09:07:06 pm
^^ I don't get it?  ???


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on August 08, 2017, 10:43:07 pm
I've been thinking about this too and thought at first KM was going towards or really away from PW towards another man.

Until I realised that it was an official visit, complete with uniformed armed forces around and instead of going where the greeter wanted then to go, PW took his wife in hand, literally, and took control of KM.

This is what I'm rhinking now, but how would it connect to a possible divorce drama?  ??? So I'm not getting it either.  ???


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Diaphenous on August 13, 2017, 09:11:18 pm
I think it is because he offered his hand and she ignored it.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on August 13, 2017, 09:31:13 pm
Looks to me that the mop in the green dress has no clue what she's at, so the bald horse in the blue jacket and tight pants guides her ever so gently with his hoof ?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: CathyJane on August 14, 2017, 03:53:29 am
What a spot on description!!  :P :P

He should have let her wander off.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on August 17, 2017, 10:30:20 am
http://celebrityinsider.org/prince-williams-desperate-attempts-to-woo-american-heiress-exposed-does-kate-know-59892/ :laundry:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Rosella on August 17, 2017, 11:22:45 am
Willie boy didn't seem to have much success when he went in pursuit of other women, did he? This one lasted a whole week! None of them except Kate seem to have been interested, not that there were very many other girlfriends to begin with.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 18, 2017, 04:08:54 pm
All of them saw how Kate was not going to let go and no one wanted to be the wife who would end up discarded (and disgraced) for Kate in the end; mistress have a habit of becoming wives in that family.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 06, 2017, 12:04:46 pm
Wimpo looks desperate like he's been crying.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11645766.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Diplomatic-Reception-at-Buckingham-Palace.jpg
 :Carole:


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Little light on December 06, 2017, 04:31:48 pm
Is that a bruise starting just below his left ear? (On the right hand side of the picture as we see it)


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 06, 2017, 05:06:35 pm
^I dunno but are they arriving?  Badly shaved if so.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Stephanie on December 06, 2017, 06:14:02 pm
Wimpo growing a beard to compete with Harry?


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: LadyLaura on December 06, 2017, 06:14:10 pm
^^^ first I thought it was a window spot, but looking closer it could be a bruise. he looks miserable. Wonder who gave him the shiner.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: india on December 06, 2017, 07:21:35 pm
I bet the Viper knocks him around if he doesn't do as instructed.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: CathyJane on December 07, 2017, 09:53:57 pm
Would not be surprised in the least if Ma knocked all of them around. She's a tough old crow.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 07, 2017, 11:03:10 pm
Kate seems to be more of a door slammer or vase thrower.  Ma Midds hitting him?  I struggle with that one but a mad girlfriend works if that is a bruise.  It’s a full right-hand face slap.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 08, 2017, 01:22:57 am
I thought waity was a lefty, or was that Harry? :dontknow:
Maybe one of the kids trew a toy at his face like that stickhorse thing he got a while back or the mini polo mallet


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 08, 2017, 01:31:28 am
i get a passive aggressive vibe from kate


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 08, 2017, 01:54:36 am
Or maybe a courtier or PP tried to knock some sense into him, better late then never, though I don't think it worked lol


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 08, 2017, 05:53:13 am
William is a lefty.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on December 08, 2017, 08:42:02 pm
Nah, he's a pseudo lefty. Or as we in Britain call them, a champagne socialist. Living well on little effort whilst pontificating about how others should live/give without having a clue or wanting to have a clue about how people lower down the socio economic ladder actually live. Always accompanied by a nauseating sense of righteousness, virtue signalling and immaturity. You can smell their smugness.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: YooperModerator on December 08, 2017, 08:50:57 pm
^As much as this may be true, I believe HRH Tiana meant left-handed.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: marion on December 08, 2017, 08:56:02 pm
^^ Whatever HRH Tiana meant I think you've hit the nail on the head Whiffy Leaks


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 08, 2017, 11:06:43 pm
^^^ This was about a smudge on his face (seen in the pic of them arriving at the diplo ball),wich could be a bruise.
We were talking about who might have caused this assumed bruise. (Loversspat leading to divorce??.)
Hence my question wheter Kate is left (a lefty) or right handed..
Political convictions have nothing to do with it! ???



Drifting off topic... :tehe:
 :sorry: Mod's


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: HRH Tiana of NOLA on December 09, 2017, 05:41:36 am
Yes, I was talking about left-handed, not left wing.


Title: Re: Possible Divorce Drama Part VII
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on December 09, 2017, 10:25:34 am
 :shy: :laugh: oh dear.