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Title: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FutureDuchessofSussex2015 on August 09, 2015, 12:57:13 pm
Hey guys, I thought I'd make a poll about Harry and what year you think he'll marry.... I honestly think he'll marry in 2018 or 2019. But what do you think?  :flower: :flirt:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on August 09, 2015, 01:32:51 pm
I think he will marry in his 40's


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on August 09, 2015, 02:44:56 pm
^I agree. No need for him to cave & marry earlier than he wants just to placate everyone else.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Liquorice on August 12, 2015, 06:42:23 pm
Then I am sorry. We will be plagued for years with the Cambridges and Middletons... A new addition in the family and in the DM is very welcome for me !  :tehe:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: cate1949 on August 13, 2015, 11:03:12 pm
the longer he waits the greater the age gap will be between him and his spouse.  Like his father marrying at 32 to a 19 year old.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Rosella on August 14, 2015, 04:04:51 am
the longer he waits the greater the age gap will be between him and his spouse.  Like his father marrying at 32 to a 19 year old.

^^ I believe Harry will marry in the next couple of years. There needn't be a huge age gap. Females as well as males are getting married at much older ages nowadays. If he weds a 28 year old at 33, that's not so bad! Charles had to marry a bride without a 'past,' hence Diana's youth and inexperience. Within reason, that won't be the case with Harry.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 14, 2015, 06:40:52 am
Willy has followed in his father's footsteps. I think Harry will do it, too.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on August 14, 2015, 06:43:03 am
in what way?


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 14, 2015, 06:47:14 am
I mean Charles married at age 32. So perhaps anytime from now when he will find the right girl.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on August 14, 2015, 07:05:46 am
that makes sense. i think he shouldn't wait for too long. after a while men become confirmed bachelors and are really not fit for a healthy relationship.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 14, 2015, 07:30:45 am
^ Yes, that's true but they don't know about it.   :tehe:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on August 14, 2015, 11:24:42 pm
"i think he shouldn't wait for too long. after a while men become confirmed bachelors and are really not fit for a healthy relationship"

Absolute nonsense. And we'd all pitch a fit if someone said that about a single woman. People don't have expiration dates on when they can still be a good spouse  :easter-sly:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on August 15, 2015, 11:02:20 am
Well, Harry did a lot of partying, which is going to scare off the "good ones." Not enough time has passed (Vegas was only three years ago) and an interested woman might fear he'll cheat. Right now he seems to be attracting attention-seekers, which isn't good. Maybe in a few years, if he doesn't do anything stupid and continues charity/royal/military work, he might be able to attract a good woman. Either a woman his own age or perhaps someone 5-7 years younger.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on August 15, 2015, 01:36:09 pm
up to 4 years younger is ok. more than that - not sure. i agree - Harry's attracting the wrong crowd right now and the drinking and hunting past - if it stays in the past is forgivable. but the possible cheating - not so much.

for the single women who are still single after 40 - I would say  the same. They become either bitter or way too picky. But for men - the age bar is lower and I'd say 35 is the limit. after that men become lazy, picky, way too picky and difficult to live with because they have their own set ways for everything. And they mostly look for two types of women: the kinky lover, or the housewife who will serve them and their needs... For this reason -it's not good to stay too much alone, even if it's in the wrong relationship. of course - if it's  the wrong one: don't stay too long in it.  

i also highly approve of Harry's experience with his last gf. great learning experience before he meets a nice girl and it's good that it happened before he met the nice girl. if he didn't have the hell experience that she and her family put on him through the media - he would have never really appreciated if an angel of a woman came into his life. and he would have cheated on this nice girl with a woman who is using sex as a tool to get what she wants in life.  


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: AnaBolena on August 15, 2015, 06:42:07 pm
Does anyone else ever get a strange feeling that Harry may not marry, or will marry even much older than his father did?  I get very strong vibes on this.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: michelle0187 on August 15, 2015, 10:41:18 pm
up to 4 years younger is ok. more than that - not sure. i agree - Harry's attracting the wrong crowd right now and the drinking and hunting past - if it stays in the past is forgivable. but the possible cheating - not so much.

for the single women who are still single after 40 - I would say  the same. They become either bitter or way too picky. But for men - the age bar is lower and I'd say 35 is the limit. after that men become lazy, picky, way too picky and difficult to live with because they have their own set ways for everything. And they mostly look for two types of women: the kinky lover, or the housewife who will serve them and their needs... For this reason -it's not good to stay too much alone, even if it's in the wrong relationship. of course - if it's  the wrong one: don't stay too long in it.  

i also highly approve of Harry's experience with his last gf. great learning experience before he meets a nice girl and it's good that it happened before he met the nice girl. if he didn't have the hell experience that she and her family put on him through the media - he would have never really appreciated if an angel of a woman came into his life. and he would have cheated on this nice girl with a woman who is using sex as a tool to get what she wants in life.  
Definitely agree with the last paragraph. Some fault him for not picking a winner but sometimes  you have to make a mistake in order to avoid it.

I can't see marriage happening now for him because everyone is too eager for it and he'll avoid going in that direction. There's too much attention. Maybe when he's in his mid thirties when he's settled on where he's going in his public life then it will likely happen. His brother waited but then rushed everything so he's probably more cautious.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: michelle0187 on August 15, 2015, 10:42:55 pm
Does anyone else ever get a strange feeling that Harry may not marry, or will marry even much older than his father did?  I get very strong vibes on this.  :dontknow:

So do i, he barely dates and doesn't have the obligations that his dad and older brother does.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on August 16, 2015, 08:10:09 pm
My only concern is that apparently he wants to have a large family ("half a dozen kids"). If you want that, you either have to marry earlier in life or marry a much younger woman. I could see somewhat of an age gap, but once you get past 7 years or so, it becomes like a generation gap. You didn't grow up during the same time frame so you won't have similar memories, experiences, etc. Especially these days, the world is changing so fast with technology and such. In the past, bigger age gaps weren't such a big deal, but nowadays there are big differences in the way kids grew up, today vs 10 yrs ago vs 20 yrs ago.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FutureDuchessofSussex2015 on August 16, 2015, 08:35:59 pm
Would it be okay if Harry marries a 20 or 25 year old??? He will be 35 or 36 by then. :flower: :flirt:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on August 16, 2015, 08:58:47 pm
you may want a big family but end up with one or two kids.
the age gap is too big, futuredutchess. i think that it is best to limit the age gap to 4 years, even 5 is already too much, unless you are Prince Albert and at the age of 55 realize that you've wasted your time instead of building up a family and get a 23 years old younger wife because otherwise there's no chance to get children.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on August 18, 2015, 08:24:37 am
I think it depends on the couple. Bigger age gaps can work, but they can also cause big problems. I think it's important that both people are in a similar life stage. If they both want kids vs. if one person already has kids and the other wants kids. Or if the woman is middle-aged and the man is in his 20's, he's still growing up and just because he says he doesn't want kids now, doesn't mean he won't change his mind when he gets to his 30's. If one person is still in school, then a big age gap (more than a few years) is inappropriate. I also think under 28-30 isn't good to have a bigger age gap.

I think with how fast the world is changing, bigger age gaps aren't going to work like they used to. I know a happily married couple who are 15 years apart in age. But I wouldn't consider dating someone that much older than I am.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Rosella on August 18, 2015, 09:29:02 am
^ Sometimes couples meet and they are just right for each other, at whatever age they are, I think. Charles and Diana were dreadful together, not just because of the age gap but because he was an exceptionally old 32 year old when they met, with views and interests that were those of a middle aged person, while Diana was a young 19. I think Harry has a young persona and isn't fuddy duddy in the way his father was. I have read that the 'ideal' age gap between husband and wife is seven years. If Harry met someone at 32 and married a compatible 27 year old at 33, that wouldn't be too bad, IMO.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: meememe on August 18, 2015, 11:45:33 am
If the rumour I have read is correct - that the Queen insists on couples being together for at least 5 years before she gives her consent then he won't get that consent before 2021 if he meets 'the one' this year.

If he does marry without her consent then he loses his place in the line of succession and his children are also barred forever but it would be a legal marriage (this was one of the changes of the Succession to the Crown Act as previously it wouldn't have been a legal marriage).

I can actually see him being more like Prince Albert and marrying in his late 40s or early 50s to a woman 20+ years his junior.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on August 18, 2015, 08:23:55 pm
if he chooses too much - highly likely. if the queen likes the woman, and knowing that she might meet St. Peter in 5 years - she might want to attend one more royal wedding. highly unlikely, but still possible.
^^ An age gap of 7 years when the woman is below 40 (and is not Demi Moor or J Lo) is ok, but after that - men look for ... fertile women ... as bad as it sounds. And 40 somethings find attractive women between 25 and 35.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on August 18, 2015, 09:27:14 pm
Five years is too long. I think if I didn't have a ring by three years, I'd assume he wasn't interested in marrying me and I'd have to move on; I'd think he was a user (I am the placeholder until he finds someone "good enough" to marry). I feel like I read somewhere that couples that date for a long time have higher divorce rates because they've become comfortable as singles and the dynamics change when they get married. The exception would be high school sweethearts: if they don't marry until they're out of college then it could be several years, but they were too young to marry at the beginning anyway. But for adults who are out of school, five years is too long. If it takes you that long to decide that if is the person you want to spend your life with, something is missing and there's a better match out there somewhere. Plus, women have their fertility to consider. Are you willing to waste time with someone who could decide after 5-10 years not to marry you? Then you'd have to start all over with someone else? It's best to break it off earlier to give you more time to find a better match.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Liquorice on August 22, 2015, 10:26:28 am
Five years is too long indeed. First, Harry must have gained in maturity : a man his age does not need much time to decide if the woman before him will be his wife. Second, if he chooses a woman close his age, chances are she will listen to her biological clock and dump him if he isn't fast enough. And third, Kate has waited at least 7, if not 9 years to get the ring, and you have seen the result !


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: My2Pence on September 10, 2015, 11:49:02 pm
I think it depends on the individuals. It is clear that W&K are hugely immature for their ages. Other people may be more mature at 20 than those two will ever be.

Once you decide/commit that you are ready to marry, to meet someone, and start a family it can happen very quickly post-30 or 35.

Angela of Liechtenstein is 11 years older than her husband, had their son at 43, and they've been happily married for 15 years.

Mathilde of Belgium is 13 years younger than Philippe, dated secretly for three years, married when she was 26 and he was 39.

I'm not including the UAE couple, because that feels like an affectionate business arrangement to me. She needed an important husband, he needed a Western-facing younger wife.

My wish for Harry is that he pulls of a Felipe and Letizia; no one knows they are dating until they announce the engagement. It will never happen, but one can dream.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on September 11, 2015, 05:53:36 am
he'll need to date outside of UK and to not share the good news that he's dating someone with his friends.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: meememe on September 11, 2015, 07:51:00 am
I remember reading some years ago that The Queen had stipulated that she wouldn't give consent unless the couple had been together for 7 years after the failures of three of her four children's marriages and since then the higher profile members of the family have been waiting for around that length of time at least (Edward, Charles, William, Peter and Zara).

Of course, if William and Kate have another two children the Queen's permission won't be necessary IF Harry wants to stay in the line of succession. If he doesn't mind taking himself and his descendants out of the line then he can marry without the Queen's consent of course.

If the seven year rule is true and he isn't currently with the girl then 2022 is about as early as he can marry. I certainly can't see him marrying much before 2020 unless he is secretly dating someone we don't know about. Then again - I am not sure he will marry at all. He seems to have a lot of longish relationships that end up breaking up which suggests he either has commitment issues, or he is attracted to women who do. I don't see him ending up with someone from outside his social class.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Liquorice on September 11, 2015, 08:54:26 am
IMHO I think the '7-year-rule' dumb. The Cambridges are the counterexample. If the BRF still thinks this way, it shows they are unable to learn from their failures.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Rosella on September 11, 2015, 11:30:48 am
^ I can't see the Queen laying down rules to any adult members of her family about how long they should be with a person before they marry. Just as I don't think that, within reason, she gives orders to any of them about how they live their lives.
She might give advice when asked but even then I can't see her saying to a young relative madly in love who's been with someone a year or two, 'No. You have to wait another five years before I give my consent'. I think the person who wrote the article about the Queen doing anything like that plucked a number out of the air and then exercised his or her's imagination.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on September 11, 2015, 12:24:02 pm
I think that there has to be some time between someone marries. At least wait for the honeymoon period of  the relationship to be over and actually see how the two people are really in that relationship. That means - at least one year. In that one year - they must be pretty interactive with each other and that includes - moving in together. Unless you live with someone before marriage you don't know what will irritate you to the point of breaking things off. Also - with Harry constantly traveling to somewhere - that waiting and vetting period should be longer.

Let's be honest - it is very nice that he is 3 months in Africa, 2 months in Australia, maybe a month in US, couple of weeks in UAE, few weeks skiing in Swiss Alps ... all in one year. But when you are in a relationship - you either bring your sweetheart with you, which is highly unpractical in his case because on most places he goes there's no place for women in make up, hairdo, dress and high heels (unless he goes for women who don't wash their hair often one more time), or you agree to have a long distance relationship.

Long distance relationships are for people who are commitment phoebes. And they attract either another commitment phoebe who will be happy to string along for 6 years or a needy person who will trow temper tantrums to get a commitment which in turn ends up driving the commitment phoebe away faster than its to be expected.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: My2Pence on September 11, 2015, 02:39:38 pm
I don't think HM would demand 5 years out of Harry and his potential wife, even if she ever required it of others.  She's seen the dangers of waiting too long for the wrong person, she could see the opposite side of the issue.  There's the success of Peter and Autumn, and that was four years meet-to-engagement.  For someone in their early thirties who knows what they want, waiting 5 years is not an option.

Since this is the spare, the gloves would be off media-wise. No protections, PR, and lies like the press did for Middleton. With the social media changes like cell phone video, twitter, location tracking, drones, it would be even worse. After what the press did to Chelsy, I don't see Harry putting his future wife through that for 5 years. If he knew she was the right one, he'd want her under Palace protection as quickly as possible.

"Unless you live with someone before marriage you don't know what will irritate you to the point of breaking things off."  IMO, making the commitment of marriage means you learn to address the issues and get over the little things.  If you can't tell your partner that you can't stand their dirty socks, you aren't at the point in your life where you're willing to do what it takes to make a marriage work.





Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KGap on September 11, 2015, 08:55:32 pm
If the rumour I have read is correct - that the Queen insists on couples being together for at least 5 years before she gives her consent then he won't get that consent before 2021 if he meets 'the one' this year.

If he does marry without her consent then he loses his place in the line of succession and his children are also barred forever but it would be a legal marriage (this was one of the changes of the Succession to the Crown Act as previously it wouldn't have been a legal marriage).

I can actually see him being more like Prince Albert and marrying in his late 40s or early 50s to a woman 20+ years his junior.

I remember reading some years ago that The Queen had stipulated that she wouldn't give consent unless the couple had been together for 7 years after the failures of three of her four children's marriages and since then the higher profile members of the family have been waiting for around that length of time at least (Edward, Charles, William, Peter and Zara).

Of course, if William and Kate have another two children the Queen's permission won't be necessary IF Harry wants to stay in the line of succession. If he doesn't mind taking himself and his descendants out of the line then he can marry without the Queen's consent of course.

If the seven year rule is true and he isn't currently with the girl then 2022 is about as early as he can marry. I certainly can't see him marrying much before 2020 unless he is secretly dating someone we don't know about. Then again - I am not sure he will marry at all. He seems to have a lot of longish relationships that end up breaking up which suggests he either has commitment issues, or he is attracted to women who do. I don't see him ending up with someone from outside his social class.

Which is it 5 or 7 years?  :sly:

Why so insulting towards Harry?

Whomever he chooses... will likely be better suited for a royal role (he has emphatically stated that he is looking for a woman who will take on the job); then simply marrying one's college mattress and having the media whitewash one's poor choice in wife.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 11, 2015, 09:25:37 pm
I do think HM wants a waiting period to establish whether or not the person is going to last and be able to really handle the position. Better than letting someone in right away after a quick courtship. Making someone wait means that it encourages the royals to start thinking ahead at an early age about what they want in a spouse.

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I don't think HM would demand 5 years out of Harry and his potential wife, even if she ever required it of others.  She's seen the dangers of waiting too long for the wrong person, she could see the opposite side of the issue.  There's the success of Peter and Autumn, and that was four years meet-to-engagement.  For someone in their early thirties who knows what they want, waiting 5 years is not an option.

I think the reason WK are a disaster is because William failed to establish boundaries and never should have let Kate move in with him during school and he failed to use common sense. Autumn and Peter are not closely in the succession and I don't think HM wants to let Harry met and then marry someone within a short period of time.

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Then again - I am not sure he will marry at all. He seems to have a lot of longish relationships that end up breaking up which suggests he either has commitment issues, or he is attracted to women who do. I don't see him ending up with someone from outside his social class.

I think he's a lot pickier than people want to see; he has a specific type and preference and I do think he's going to marry someone who will be at ease with the BRF and his friends. He likely won't marry an 'outsider'.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on September 12, 2015, 09:24:21 am
I don't think anyone should marry before 18 months... 12 months dating + 6 months engagement period. Engagement period should be for reflection and discernment, pre-marital counseling (someone to help you go over things, and think of potential red flags that you may not have thought of), and people should be able to call it off at any time. Better to call off an engagement than to get a divorce. There are couples who made it work marrying after just a few dates, but they are the exception. You need to take time to get to know the person. On the other hand, if you are still unsure after a few years then I think it's time to move on. Something is missing, even if you can't quite pinpoint it, and there is a good chance you'll regret getting married/end up divorced. These couples get divorced too, it just takes longer a lot of the time.

I could understand wanting someone to have a friendship before dating, though. Then the total time they've known each other could be up to 5-7 years by the time they get married. Friendship allows them to get to know each other as people--interests, friends, values--before getting into a relationship... at that point a lot of times they can't tell if they love the person or just love the way they make them feel, which is why dating a stranger is difficult (thanks, hormones).

I think he likes blondes as his "type". She must come from a well-off family and have good social connections. I could see him marrying a foreigner from an English-speaking country, but I think the odds are more in favor of marrying someone from the UK, which probably means his social circle.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: My2Pence on September 12, 2015, 06:13:48 pm
If it is the right two people, getting married quickly is the correct answer. Some marry after 10 years of dating and get divorced a few years later. Some marry after a few months and are together decades later. It all depends on the individuals.

If I get to play fantasy matchmaker, I ship Harry and Elizabeth Holmes with a marriage in Fall 2017 on his grandparents 70th anniversary. Smart, pretty, blond, and a self-made billionaire. Imagine what the two of them could do for Sentebale with her money.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/elizabeth-holmes/ (http://www.forbes.com/profile/elizabeth-holmes/)

This is OTT. Is there a "I think Harry should marry X" thread?


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on September 12, 2015, 07:56:06 pm
 kisss  kisss    kisss
^ I already proposed her. the other posters said that she's out of his league and that she's too smart to be just a royal wife...


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: My2Pence on September 12, 2015, 10:01:21 pm
Ariel, you and I can be a club of two!  She's too smart to be a royal wife like Middleton, but she could be like Maxima or Letizia (along the lines of a Melinda Gates).


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: michelle0187 on September 12, 2015, 11:55:47 pm
If it is the right two people, getting married quickly is the correct answer. Some marry after 10 years of dating and get divorced a few years later. Some marry after a few months and are together decades later. It all depends on the individuals.

If I get to play fantasy matchmaker, I ship Harry and Elizabeth Holmes with a marriage in Fall 2017 on his grandparents 70th anniversary. Smart, pretty, blond, and a self-made billionaire. Imagine what the two of them could do for Sentebale with her money.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/elizabeth-holmes/ (http://www.forbes.com/profile/elizabeth-holmes/)

This is OTT. Is there a "I think Harry should marry X" thread?

What an extremely vain choice


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: livylivy on October 08, 2015, 09:21:32 pm
I remember reading some years ago that The Queen had stipulated that she wouldn't give consent unless the couple had been together for 7 years after the failures of three of her four children's marriages and since then the higher profile members of the family have been waiting for around that length of time at least (Edward, Charles, William, Peter and Zara).

Of course, if William and Kate have another two children the Queen's permission won't be necessary IF Harry wants to stay in the line of succession. If he doesn't mind taking himself and his descendants out of the line then he can marry without the Queen's consent of course.

If the seven year rule is true and he isn't currently with the girl then 2022 is about as early as he can marry. I certainly can't see him marrying much before 2020 unless he is secretly dating someone we don't know about. Then again - I am not sure he will marry at all. He seems to have a lot of longish relationships that end up breaking up which suggests he either has commitment issues, or he is attracted to women who do. I don't see him ending up with someone from outside his social class.
i agree.
plus if he has to wait 7 years he'll start getting a bit old to have kids: he' ll have them when he' s in his 40s and what about his future wife?
She must be quite young if she has to wait 7 years and maybe such a long waiting might seem daunting, at least it looks like that to me. If i ever meet the right one i wouldn t be so willing to wait son long


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: livylivy on October 08, 2015, 09:29:46 pm

I think he's a lot pickier than people want to see; he has a specific type and preference and I do think he's going to marry someone who will be at ease with the BRF and his friends. He likely won't marry an 'outsider'.
I agree. in an interview i saw somewhere, maybe youtube, he said his woman needs to be at ease with the british royal family and with the kind of job he' s doing. i' m pretty sure he won' t marry so soon, i think he will in his 40s with a high class blond girl


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on October 09, 2015, 09:26:03 am
He could marry a much younger woman, but with that comes the potential "generation gap" problem that comes because they grew up at different times. Those marriages can work, but it is something to watch out for. Make sure you have something in common other than the girl being young and attractive and the guy having lots of money ("love"/lust).


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 09, 2015, 06:50:27 pm
I think Harry will want to marry when he's in his late thirties and will try to find someone single, but like I said, the good ones are currently dwindling into lives of their own.

IMHO I think the '7-year-rule' dumb. The Cambridges are the counterexample. If the BRF still thinks this way, it shows they are unable to learn from their failures.

The BRF doesn't really look for the red flags and the royals are too used to things being easy; in the past princes had brides shipped in and the wife had to put up with it no matter what and so the princes didn't have to change. I do think Harry won't change and will marry someone easily available.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FrederickLouis on December 26, 2016, 11:00:17 pm
It would be nice if Prince Harry married in 2017. Now that poor Zara lost the baby, a joyous wedding would be cheerful.   
 :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on December 27, 2016, 01:31:16 am
Yes, a wedding would be cheerful, but Harry hasn't been seeing Meghan for very long and she's not really the type of woman who would be a good royal consort. He needs a new girlfriend and to date her for at least a year before getting engaged, IMO.

Maybe Eugenie and her boyfriend could get married in 2017.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 27, 2016, 02:54:32 am
I think once Harry meets the FD he will fall hard and be ready to marry quickly. I don't think he will care about the protocol of waiting a certain number of months or years. HM will give in or if in a worse care scenario, PH will pull a PW and just announce it without telling her, though I think PH is less likely to do that and I hope he doesn't feel he has to. But if he does, I think HM will just let it go and approve. It might be easier for her that way too. I do not think MM is the FD, but I do hope the FD is right around the corner. It would be great to have a wedding happen in 2017. I wouldn't be surprised if Eugenie and Jack get married in 2017 too.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: cate1949 on December 27, 2016, 04:47:22 am
he always falls quickly - problem is he falls out fast too

he is not going to marry MM - no way not a chance



Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: MoonlitSerenity on December 27, 2016, 05:11:30 am
^ I agree I don't believe MM is the one. I think Harry will meet someone new and marry in either 2018 or 2019.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 27, 2016, 06:31:44 pm
^^ That does seem to be a major part of his personality- impulsive behavior, not thinking things through, then changing course. I think he will know when he comes across the one and his impulsiveness won't be a factor. Or, at least that's what I hope happens. Does seem he needs to grow up a bit first though. He talks a good game about wanting to have children, but doesn't seem to be in the right frame of mind yet imo.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2016, 06:48:30 pm
It will be good for Harry to do the asking for approval dance. This is such a ridiculous and outdated tradition but it is the tradition of HIS family and to not get the blessing of the monarch with 69 years in marriage, 64 years on the throne. He will be a fool not to ask for her blessing of his marriage. (future marriage, whenever he finds the one)

^ Agreed. H talks about marriage and children but he has a fantasy about it, in reality he's probably not even ready to commit. He's probably still looking for the princess in the castle just like many women are looking for and waiting for the prince on a white horse. Disney has messed up so many people. :bat:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 27, 2016, 06:55:25 pm
^I agree, would be best to get approval. I think the Disney princess in the castle fantasy is part of his problem. Obviously people want him to marry someone who looks and acts like a princess, pure and demure. So if he doesn't, he is hit with a wave of unpopularity. So he has to choose. Does he marry the person he loves, or the person who fits the bill of princess. Because the FD might not be both. It's sad in a way, but he could give it all up and be a commoner. He won't though. Would be nice if he could find someone who is popular enough. Would *despise* to see him struggling with his popularity for the rest of his life. I'm sure there is someone out there who could be right for him.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Ariel on December 27, 2016, 07:27:39 pm
He just needs to find someone who will be with him for him, not for the exposure and for the boost in career. Someone who doesn't mix business with pleasure so to speak. As for when I think he will marry - it depends on the woman he meets. If it's a woman who allows a man to fool her with royal protocol as to why he's not committing to her - it may take years. If it's a woman who knows what she wants in life, and he's a man who wants that woman - 6 months to a year is plenty of time to test the waters and see if you are made for each other or not and if you want to continue on a family building relationship with this person. He doesn't have so much time to fool around as he thinks he has. Just look at Clooney and Amal - they met, fell in love, and married within a year. That's a bit too soon but a 2 years courtship and marriage sounds about right for any man over 30.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on December 27, 2016, 08:14:50 pm
^Totally agree. The mixing business with pleasure thing is poison. Puts people on edge. Even if innocent, which I doubt, leaves too much to the imagination and raises not good questions. Agree, how fast PH marries FD totally depends on the mutual feelings they have for each other. If they know, they know. I've known of people who married within days meeting each other and stayed together decades, and people who married years after meeting and divorced.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Amanda on January 01, 2017, 06:51:12 pm


I don't think Harry will take so long to marry, I think he is MM are firm, bet on the wedding in 2018 at most, maybe until 2017,

I'm very intuitive and I feel that he really likes her.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 01, 2017, 07:14:11 pm
It will be good for Harry to do the asking for approval dance. This is such a ridiculous and outdated tradition but it is the tradition of HIS family and to not get the blessing of the monarch with 69 years in marriage, 64 years on the throne. He will be a fool not to ask for her blessing of his marriage. (future marriage, whenever he finds the one)^ Agreed. H talks about marriage and children but he has a fantasy about it, in reality he's probably not even ready to commit. He's probably still looking for the princess in the castle just like many women are looking for and waiting for the prince on a white horse. Disney has messed up so many people.

Agreed; Harry likes the idea of marriage, along the lines of someone being everything to him all at the same time. He wants to have a lover, mother, consort, mother of his children, dynamo cook/homemaker, that kind of thing. I believe he asks for too much and he will get nothing. He likely has a ivsion of himself in a fabulous uniform marrying the perfect bride, but the reality is different. I don't think he wants the long term, just the moment of excitement. The reality is that he's seeking excitement and drama and can't live without it.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: FrederickLouis on January 09, 2017, 11:54:52 pm
Is Henry's 2017 wedding a possibility?   
http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/uk/princeharry/a-2017


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on January 10, 2017, 12:16:56 am
^ I hope not.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: cate1949 on January 10, 2017, 12:52:58 am
well he is not marrying MM for sure and after the trauma of this affair - maybe he will take some time and reconsider his priorities re: women. 

I do agree he seeks the drama in a relationship and fails to invest in the actual relationship - but maybe he will mature a bit now - stability is what he needs not all the drama.  But he also has to give - the woman has needs too ya know!


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: meememe on January 10, 2017, 09:49:25 am
I am coming to the opinion that Harry will marry MM this year simply because he wants to get married and he hasn't been able to convince anyone to marry him so far. He is desperate it seems to have a 'family' and she is getting on in years so I do see a marriage coming sooner rather than later.

I am not convinced though, that he will get HM's permission, and thus will marry with the advantage that he won't have to live in the royal straight jacket. He will be able to live in his beloved Africa more.

Two months ago I didn't see any possibility of this marriage happening for a few more years - if at all - but now I am not so sure.

Harry goes for the celebrity types (since the Chelsy split) and I don't see girls who aren't like MM wanting to be with him. He seems to like the showy ones - a bit like Uncle Andrew in that - flash and trash rather than suitable - even if not loved.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: kolkomilko on January 10, 2017, 10:38:38 am
I think he will marry in a few years because he isn't ready for it but I wonder whom he will find then?


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on January 11, 2017, 12:40:17 am
^^I don't think he's that desperate and there are signs of discontent. PH recently removed a number of followers on social media and MM is no longer following him which leads me to believe he removed her. Imo this would be strange behavior from PH if he is at all serious about marrying her. I think it was a fling gone wrong, he tolerated it for a while but got tired and paranoid and ended it. Newspapers will continue on with the storyline for a while because there is no confirmation of a breakup and they make money off the stories. Imo, she only looks worse over time because of overexposure in more than one way. If he gets married this year, I think it will be because he met someone after MM, had a quick courtship and proposed. Could happen. I don't think he's looking for a celebrity type. I think he just happens to be around them often because of his circle of friends/patrons. It is said that some of the other followers he removed were other celebs, so maybe he is changing his way.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: windsor2 on January 11, 2017, 02:19:59 am
He's either changing his ways and wising up to them using him or someone at the palace has taken over his social media accounts and cleaned it up and will be monitoring it from now on.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on January 11, 2017, 04:13:01 pm
^I doubt someone at the palace took over his personal social media account. He may be consulting with them about the situation in general, but his private account is really not their responsibility imo and he's not normally into bureaucracy. . Think it's a lot more likely he cleaned it up himself. Either way, doubt they would remove her as a follower without him knowing and agreeing.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 13, 2017, 06:04:32 am
I think he's going to likely start wife-hunting if he unloads Meg; for some reason  I see him like Prince Andrew, dropping the 'unsuitable' one and then marrying someone socially acceptable on paper, but ending up married to someone who goes nutso like Fergie. Wild sprees, affairs, and partying 24/7. Unlike Andrew, he'll join in on the merriment, causing courtiers and other staff to commit mass seppuku and the press to rejoice in their high tabloid sales.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Cindy.rose on January 13, 2017, 01:23:37 pm
I don't understand this relationship either they are no longer together or they are so firm that Harry wants to keep everything in complete privacy and when we least expect it he will come with an engagement announcement. I don't think they're finished, because she has not published anything else in the instagram and is keeping herself discreet and also I do not think Harry will marry someone who does not like just because she is more appropriate.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Amanda on January 13, 2017, 01:31:47 pm
I think she stopped following him so as not to attract attention. They must have combined that.

I doubt they ended the dating :cookie:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: cate1949 on January 13, 2017, 02:11:14 pm
it is over


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: livylivy on January 13, 2017, 05:11:48 pm
^^ I agree with you, Amanda


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Joanna on January 13, 2017, 05:25:40 pm
I don't think he'll marry this year. Maybe 2018 or 2019?  :dontknow:


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on January 14, 2017, 01:54:21 am
He shouldn't marry this year because he and Meghan haven't been together that long, and if he finds a new girl the relationship will have been even shorter. But Meghan is already 35, will be 36 in August. If she wants kids and they're still together I think she'll push for an engagement sooner rather than later. I really think Harry should go for a younger woman so he has time to get to know her without worrying about her biological clock ticking.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on January 14, 2017, 05:40:35 am
^If his reaction when honeymoon was brought up is any indication, I don't think he is at all in a hurry at the moment. Ultimately he's in control of the marriage issue, not the female. He will be the one approaching HM for permission and frankly, I doubt it's something he would look forward to currently. The reality is that there are still plenty of girls for him to choose from and there is no indication that he is head over heels.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: sandy on January 16, 2017, 01:17:27 am
It's not a Koo Stark situation IMO. After letting Camilla in the Queen would look ridiculous if she forbids Harry to marry Meghan. Charles also is a future King who married Camilla in a civil ceremony. Harry is a spare with no chance of being a monarch unless William abdicates for himself and his heirs (which I doubt will happen).If they want to get married they will marry. I think it will be up to them ultimately.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: meememe on January 16, 2017, 02:41:13 am
I don't think the Queen would refuse permission - eventually - but the story I have heard is she is insisting that people are together for at least 5 years first and without that she won't budge.

She doesn't want more divorces and so is insisting on long courtships.

That would be the only reason I can see for her refusing Harry's choice - the length of the courtship.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 16, 2017, 03:08:54 am
Harry doesn't have much time left.

As he grows older, his habits and other traits will set in. No much younger woman will want him and the established types don't want someone who is still hitting the  party circuit and getting mixed up with bad women and getting too much baggage on his shoulders. Someone with less baggage shouldn't be expected to marry him and put up with his past mistakes and have to walk on eggshells wondering if she's going to set something off inside of him.

He's becoming nothing more than a party/ski bum who likes to spend his days recovering from a hangover the night before and basically preps to go out and get another round of booze into his nervous system and hit up the wrong types who mount him because he's a prince. He's also moving well into becoming a full train-wrack and heading for a crash. It isn't cute and doesn't make him cheeky or funny, it makes him nothing but trouble.

There's a REASON women like Pippa and Meg are lauded as credible brides and it's because Harry hasn't grown up to become a better man. He's done minimal service in the military and the Invictus Games are to me just as much a platform for him as a platform for wounded soldiers. It's not like he's spending his days and nights living on base, teaching new recruits, tending to wounded comrades, and doing office work.

Even before his vaunted retirement, he was jet setting around instead of living on base and making an off-camera contribution. Harry is clearly going from partying part time, to partying full time, killing time until he is interested in marrying someone willing to put up with his BS. IN my view, marrying him would be like marrying a drug or alcohol addict, throwing one's life away on babysitting Harry, bearing his kids, sheltering the kids from their mess of a father, while dealing with endless press abuse and the craziness of Kate and the Windsors in general. No one needs that.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: leogirl on January 16, 2017, 06:17:50 am
^^ Five years is way too long unless you're under 18 or still in school/university. At the 4/5+-year mark, the divorce rates begin to increase because they dated too long, the relationship is based on convenience and always being able to leave. People who were together this long before marriage suddenly feel "trapped" when they finally do marry, like they don't have a choice anymore of whether or not to be together. Lots of unhappiness and divorces not long into the marriage.

I say for adults, at least a year before an engagement (which would be 1 1/2 to 2 years of being together on the wedding day), and by three years if there's no engagement it's time to walk away so you can both meet someone else. If you are still unsure, I think deep down you know there's a red flag somewhere or otherwise you would have committed by then... it doesn't take that long to get to know somebody.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: sandy on January 16, 2017, 12:16:39 pm
I don't think the Queen has ordered all to wait a certain time. But suppose Meg and Harry want to get married. They are not in their early twenties but in their thirties, Meghan is 35. If the Queen has them wait it potentially increases possible childbearing issues for MEghan. Sophie waited and had an ectopic pregnancy and later a difficult birth. If the QUeen tells them to wait, Meghan possibly would be 40. I think the Queen would not issue such edicts in that case. She also should give them a plate of duties as a couple if they marry and not allow them to make excuses for not working or Harry wanting to play normal like his brother is doing.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: KatherineTheGreat on January 17, 2017, 12:58:04 am
I doubt there is a time requirement of 5 years or any specific time requirement at all. I think more important than years are quality of time spent together, compatibility and PH's own feeling of what is right for him. He could meet someone and know immediately and I think he will probably be allowed to marry for love though everyone will hope his popularity won't go down of course, not just for the monarchy but for him and his work as well. I do think there are a number of red flags at the moment.


Title: Re: What year do you think Harry will marry?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 20, 2017, 12:33:00 am
I wonder if Harry is aware that he doesn't have any more time to jerk himself around; I think his late thirties, earlier if he isn't willing to step out of the booze/party scene and clean up his act and cut ties with those who get him into trouble.