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Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: beline on February 17, 2012, 03:19:42 pm
Prince Johan Friso, Dutch Queen Beatrix second son, is in critical condition in an Austrian hospital.

https://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/170517055773220864

He was buried under an avalanche while skiing, and remained trapped for 15 minutes.
Let's hope he'll be okay!


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 17, 2012, 04:11:39 pm
Oh god, that's terrible.
I hope he's going to be ok.

 :-


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on February 17, 2012, 04:20:01 pm
OMG! Hope he is ok now


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: karla64 on February 17, 2012, 05:28:29 pm
I hope he can make it 

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/17/world/europe/austria-royal-avalanche/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 17, 2012, 05:31:01 pm
That's just awful.  Saying prayers and hope he does ok.  Geeez.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: berlin on February 17, 2012, 08:28:09 pm
I'm praying for him.  Hopefully he'll come out whole. 


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on February 17, 2012, 09:49:14 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/prince_friso_fights_for_his_li.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/prince_friso_fights_for_his_li.php)

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Prince Friso of the Netherlands, second son of queen Beatrix, is fighting for his life in an Austrian hospital after being hit by an avalanche while skiing.

The prince, who was skiing off piste with three companions, spent at least 15 minutes under the snow, after a 30-metre wide avalanche swept him down the hillside.

His companions, who escaped the avalanche raised the alarm. Doctors revived the unconscious prince at the scene and he was rushed to hospital in Innsbruck by hospital.

I hope he will be alright. The rest of Royal Family are on their way, but have delay to weather conditions.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on February 17, 2012, 10:04:08 pm
Hope he does ok!
Guess he will never ski off-piste again!


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: rogue on February 17, 2012, 10:07:56 pm
If he is able to survive.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 18, 2012, 03:31:12 am
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/prince_friso_fights_for_his_li.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/prince_friso_fights_for_his_li.php)

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Prince Friso of the Netherlands, second son of queen Beatrix, is fighting for his life in an Austrian hospital after being hit by an avalanche while skiing.

The prince, who was skiing off piste with three companions, spent at least 15 minutes under the snow, after a 30-metre wide avalanche swept him down the hillside.

His companions, who escaped the avalanche raised the alarm. Doctors revived the unconscious prince at the scene and he was rushed to hospital in Innsbruck by hospital.

I hope he will be alright. The rest of Royal Family are on their way, but have delay to weather conditions.

Usually critical condition isn't a fatal designation; if he were in 'intensive care,' then that would be reason to worry. I hope to god he is getting out of it and if they could revive him, I am sure that the doctors are optimistic. Being able to revive him is a great sign and I sincerely hope that he pulls through.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: rogue on February 18, 2012, 01:49:50 pm
Lets hope he is able to pull through


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 18, 2012, 05:55:43 pm

Dutch prince's life 'still in danger' after avalanche

Government statement says Prince Johan Friso 'had a calm and stable night'


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The only serious problem appeared to be lack of oxygen, with Friso being buried for 20 minutes and the fact that the on-scene reanimation took "pretty long," he was quoted as saying.
 
Thome was quoted as saying that Friso's body temperature was only 32 degrees Celsius — about 90 degrees Fahrenheit — and that was "reasonably positive" because when temperatures are lower the body can make do with less oxygen.
 
Thome's remarks were reportedly made to the surgeon husband of Handelsblad reporter Jannetje Koelewijn. The paper said both were in Lech when the accident occured and later in Innsbruck.
 
After rushing to the hospital from Lech Friday, the queen and Friso's wife, Princess Mabel, paid another visit to the intensive care ward where Friso was being treated. Both women were dressed in black and wearing sunglasses. Mabel put her arm protectively around the queen's shoulders as the two passed a line of waiting journalists without saying anything.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46438490/ns/world_news-europe/

Worse than I thought; if he is in intensive care, then that means that he is worse off; intensive care is one step away from death.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Lieblich on February 19, 2012, 12:00:45 pm
Unfortunately nothing can be determined for another day or two. They have to give it time for any brain swelling to go down before they can scan for activity.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on February 19, 2012, 03:53:54 pm
It's looking bad though


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on February 19, 2012, 04:14:33 pm
let's hope his brain didn't get damaged to much by the lack of oxigen


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 19, 2012, 06:33:15 pm
It's looking bad though

Well, we don't know that since (obviously) doctors are bound by confidentiality and only the family knows and they aren't talking.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Miss_Sonya on February 20, 2012, 02:38:48 am
Hopefully he makes a full recovery but 15-20 minutes is a long time to go without oxygen


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 20, 2012, 05:59:21 am
Well, if his vitals are solid, then it is possible that he will pull through. I read on another forum that his vitals were stable and that means that he may very well pull through and end up out of this. It's the vitals that will surely determine if whether or not he lives.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 20, 2012, 06:02:54 am
Any word on lack of oxygen or any kind of damage from the brain to the extremities, KF/Anybody?  God, this is horrible.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Miss_Sonya on February 20, 2012, 06:36:10 am

^ According to most reports he was buried 15-20 minutes under eithe a metre or a half metre under the snow. And it was reported the he had to be resuscutated when he was pulled free.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on February 20, 2012, 03:22:03 pm
They can't do all the scans yet. His brain is not swollen, which is a good sign. I don't know when exactly, but they will scan him soon on brain activity, if that is okay, than they will wake him up.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 20, 2012, 06:57:06 pm
If his brain is normal, than I am sure that he will be just fine and will wake up just fine.

Besides, if the vitals are unharmed and working, then it's just a matter of time until he does wake up; just because he isn't awake and thriving right NOW doesn't mean that he's dead or dying. Besides, the press has no right ot be immediately informed in these matters, the family does, not them.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 20, 2012, 07:09:23 pm
That's true.  It's nobody's business to know all the details.  Good point.  Will continue to hold good thoughts as well as prayers for all of those killed in the Washington avalanche.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 20, 2012, 07:26:28 pm
One thing I will never understand is WHY Friso decided to go off of the pathway that was designated by the resort as safe.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: observer on February 20, 2012, 08:09:08 pm
it's simply the thrill of wild steep slopes. Unprepared powder snow, no snow plough sliding freshman is blocking your way etc.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 21, 2012, 01:01:35 am
Rules are there for a reason.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: observer on February 21, 2012, 10:16:52 am
of course, but for someone it's an extra-kick to break 'em.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 21, 2012, 10:25:37 am
I just hope he doesn't pay for it with his life; no 'kick' is worth it.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on February 21, 2012, 08:06:38 pm
Dutch prince buried in avalanche is in a coma

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/9093975/Dutch-Prince-Johan-Friso-in-a-coma-after-being-buried-in-avalanche-in-Lech.html


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on February 23, 2012, 08:44:37 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/queen_beatrix_cancels_engageme.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/02/queen_beatrix_cancels_engageme.php)

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The queen has cancelled several engagements and will remain longer in the Austrian resort of Lech to be close to her son Friso, the state information service RVD said on Thursday.

Friso remains in a critical condition after being hit by an avalanche while out skiing last Friday. The prince, Beatrix's second son, was buried under the snow for at least 15 minutes and is being kept in an artificial coma.



Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 12:01:44 am
Oh I hope he's alright, I have a feeling they are ot telling us everything.
Why are they keeping him in a coma?


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on February 24, 2012, 12:21:33 am
I read in my local Flemish paper that they kept him in the coma for so long to give his brain some time to rest and reduce swelling :dontknow:
They are slowly bringing him out of the artificial coma at the moment by upping his body temp.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 11:40:02 am
just read this on twitter
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Gaeaskywalker Wieteke Bruinenberg
Bad news prince Friso, severe brain damage, will probably never wake up again


I hope that is a old report ?
Please dear god.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 11:55:18 am
UPDATE:
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Twitter"
 SkyNewsBreak Sky News Newsdesk

Austrian doctors say Dutch Prince Johan Friso suffered brain damage in avalanche last week and may never regain consciousness


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2012, 01:47:15 pm
Oh Christ.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: observer on February 24, 2012, 02:37:18 pm
I'm an ongoing medic and I can testify that to bring somebody back from a coma due to an anoxic situation immediately would be too complicated because of oedemas in the brain and some proteins might become toxic in such an anoxic environment.
Sadly I read now that the anoxic situation caused a cardiac arrest and so both most important organs, the heart and the brain will be of enduring damage.
The last hope is at least bring him back into conciousness, but may as it be, he'll be mentally and physically handicaped the rest of his lifetime.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 03:55:04 pm
 This is just so awful, unimaginable, because he was healthy one day and in a flash he's in a coma.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: karla64 on February 24, 2012, 04:20:26 pm
He may never awake and had damage brain..

http://news.yahoo.com/austrian-doctors-dutch-prince-avalanche-may-never-regain-112154488.html


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2012, 06:04:24 pm
There re medical breakthroughs in medicine every day of the week.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 06:29:08 pm
He's young and healthy if they let him stay in coma he may eventually wake up, it happened to my husband's friend, he was in a coma three months the doctor's said he would be a vegetable when he awoke from the car accident which put him in a coma, but now four yrs later he is fine, he has healed and he has no brain damage at all. But perhaps a medical person o board would know more.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 24, 2012, 07:02:02 pm
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the doctor's said he would be a vegetable when he awoke from the car accident which put him in a coma, but now four yrs later he is fi

Some of these doctors are pessimistic idiots; one almost walked away from operating on my grandmother after she had heart attacks and she convinced him to do it. He almost walked because it counts against a doctor that ends up losing a patient. Which is why I am more than a little skeptical that the situation is hopeless.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: observer on February 24, 2012, 07:11:12 pm
There's a fine neuronal net at the brains basis, the formatio reticularis, which, if it's damaged,will never bring Pr. Friso back into consciousness. But there is a small number of cases where out of reasons, which aren't explored completely yet, where this part of the brain gains back it's function -may be as a reason of the shock, or some new synapses are built etc..
There's a small hope that this will happen with him too. But no matter what the outcome will be, Pr. Friso will be a case for medical care the rest of his life. Everything else would be a wonder!


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 09:29:18 pm
Uffff since the start I knew that it wouldn't end well  :sob:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 09:41:53 pm
I had a bad feeling too when I heard it. It didn't sound good, but I am hoping for the best.
One plus is that he was healthy and strong, so he has the ability to fight.

I wonder will he live like Sunny Von Bulow did, in a coma for years?

It is so sad.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 24, 2012, 11:43:39 pm
I'm just sorry that anybody's got to deal with hospitals, doctors and 'specialists'.  It's unnerving for everyone.  I do wish he hadn't taken that risk, but some do and this is an excellent cautionary tale.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Byechoc on February 24, 2012, 11:49:01 pm
After riding what happend, well there is no way that he could be OK...

Remeber 25 minutes above snow, it's hard to breath.. and then they needed 50 minutes to bring him to life again... too much time without oxigen!

I'm sorry but I can see a pink future for him.. If he survives, his life will be a misery!


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 24, 2012, 11:52:33 pm
At the moment, no, it doesn't look very good, but that's why they use the word 'risk'.  I will hold good thoughts, tho, and send prayers.

I am still very upset at the, to me, idiots that lost their lives in Washington State recently.  They, too, wanted a 'thrill'.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 25, 2012, 01:00:52 am
That's sad and was very foolish.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: casie on February 25, 2012, 03:56:33 am
I’ve been following this all week.  This was not the news everyone was hoping for.  It’s just too awful for words.

I’m glad to hear that your husband’s friend recovered from a similar situation, Serene Grace.  Thank you for telling us that.  I guess as long as Prince Friso’s alive, there’s a small glimmer of hope.  I’ll keep him in my thoughts and continue to pray for him.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Yooper on February 25, 2012, 04:32:54 am
Having been a skier in my 'youth', I'm somewhat annoyed at this, but pray for everyone involved.  It's all about analyzing the risk vs the outcome.  Sad, really, that those who choose risk never consider the outcome.  I've seen it too many times to be indifferent.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: MOSAIC on February 25, 2012, 03:38:43 pm

SG :  i too have been hoping for the best outcome and praying for him and the RF, but the thought of Sunny von Bulow crept into my conscious thoughts too.  I really pray it will not be the same outcome as that poor woman.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2012, 10:58:47 pm
I’ve been following this all week.  This was not the news everyone was hoping for.  It’s just too awful for words.

I’m glad to hear that your husband’s friend recovered from a similar situation, Serene Grace.  Thank you for telling us that.  I guess as long as Prince Friso’s alive, there’s a small glimmer of hope.  I’ll keep him in my thoughts and continue to pray for him.

Well, I hope you guys won't think of me as insane, but in a way there is a method to come to terms with this. Instead of looking at him as a lost cause, she can spend time reading to him, talking to him, watching shows and playing music, while the kids can end up paying visits, talking to him, sending him small gifts, and pretty much continuing to see him not as dead, or in some limbo, but always listening and they can talk to him. Nothing is stopping them from continuing ot make him a part of things and nothing is stopping them from being a part of him in a lot of positive ways.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Tatiana on February 26, 2012, 02:23:47 am

    Such a tragedy, so needless.  I am sure he is getting the very best of care.

    My thoughts are with his wife, children, mother and family.

     Having worked in this field, I feel awful for all involved.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 26, 2012, 03:06:54 am
I’ve been following this all week.  This was not the news everyone was hoping for.  It’s just too awful for words.

I’m glad to hear that your husband’s friend recovered from a similar situation, Serene Grace.  Thank you for telling us that.  I guess as long as Prince Friso’s alive, there’s a small glimmer of hope.  I’ll keep him in my thoughts and continue to pray for him.

Well, I hope you guys won't think of me as insane, but in a way there is a method to come to terms with this. Instead of looking at him as a lost cause, she can spend time reading to him, talking to him, watching shows and playing music, while the kids can end up paying visits, talking to him, sending him small gifts, and pretty much continuing to see him not as dead, or in some limbo, but always listening and they can talk to him. Nothing is stopping them from continuing ot make him a part of things and nothing is stopping them from being a part of him in a lot of positive ways.


That's what I am hoping too Kuei Fei, that they continue to have family visits, read to him, sit with him, talk to him, play music, etc , because his heart and body are all strong, even though the prognosis is not good now, people do come out of coma's. 
Still what is meant to be will be.

I get the feeling though, something is being not said in the press.  If a certain part of his brain is damaged which controls his breathing then there may be more going on that's not being reported. If he can't breathe on his own then that is even worse


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 26, 2012, 04:27:16 am
perhaps because there is nothing to say.

It's not the business of the press or public to know everything and it's not the business of the press or public until the DRF decides to make it public and the press is not someone who has to be answered to a this point. I am seriously sick of the entitlement mentality that hte media has, that for some reason the press has to be briefed by the press themselves in order to end up making everything legitimate. It's the business of Mabel and the DRF first, not the press first and then the public and the DRF is going through an impossible time right now and the last thing the press has any right to, is to know every little minute detail. At the moment while he is in a coma/vegitative state, I am sure that the situation is ebtter than having him dead and buried. While there is life, there is hope.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 26, 2012, 09:00:14 am
That's true.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: observer on February 26, 2012, 02:46:04 pm
...

That's what I am hoping too Kuei Fei, that they continue to have family visits, read to him, sit with him, talk to him, play music, etc , because his heart and body are all strong, even though the prognosis is not good now, people do come out of coma's. 
Still what is meant to be will be.

Sorry, but that's only necromancing. In a coma you don't have any reception for stimula whatsoever anymore.
I know some people who treat their beloved ones, who fell into a vegetative coma (=a coma with eyes opened), like normal people. That's only self deception no matter how much they swear that their friend or relative replies to their love

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I get the feeling though, something is being not said in the press.  If a certain part of his brain is damaged which controls his breathing then there may be more going on that's not being reported. If he can't breathe on his own then that is even worse

a good medic is advised to say nothing to the press especially to those vultures of the tabloids. Medical confidentiality is not without a reason mandatory for any medic.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Tatiana on February 26, 2012, 07:57:49 pm

   Amen Observer.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Leila on February 26, 2012, 09:09:45 pm
I'm sorry for your loss, SG.  :hug: :hug:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Mooster on February 26, 2012, 09:13:00 pm
That's so sad, Serene Grace :(


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 26, 2012, 09:14:49 pm
Thank u.
I feel for the Prince and his family, it has to be horrid for them.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on February 26, 2012, 09:22:32 pm
so sorry for your loss SG! :there: :sob:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on February 26, 2012, 09:22:50 pm
so sorry SG  :hug:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 27, 2012, 02:25:43 am
...... can my post be erased I just wanted to say why the Prince's coma was affecting me so. I'll save a copy of it in my private messages if someone wants to read it privately. 


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on February 27, 2012, 04:48:51 am
sure honey I'll take it out  :hug:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on February 27, 2012, 06:38:47 am
thank u.  


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on March 01, 2012, 02:51:38 pm
Patrick van Katwijk ‏ @Patrickvkatwijk  Reply  Retweet  Favorite · Open
Prince Friso is on his way to London by plane, the Dutch government plane flew this morning to London #friso


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on March 01, 2012, 07:36:08 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/03/prince_friso_being_moved_to_lo.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/03/prince_friso_being_moved_to_lo.php)

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Prince Friso, who has been in a coma for nearly two weeks following a skiing accident, is being moved by hospital plane to a specialist clinic in London on Thursday afternoon, according to various media reports.

The prince is being moved to London because that is where he lives with his wife Mabel and two daughters, Austrian papers said.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on March 02, 2012, 12:50:32 pm
It's Very sad.
I really hope he improves.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on March 02, 2012, 02:19:03 pm
TWITTER:
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RoyalReporter Richard Palmer

Princess Mabel: "I want to express my gratitude for the enormous number of messages and warm expressions of sympathy that we have received."  
 
RoyalReporter Richard Palmer

Prince Friso's wife, Princess Mabel in a message thanks the public for messages of sympathy for the Prince, who may never recover.   


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on March 02, 2012, 04:34:28 pm
Mabel said that in twitter, she has her own account if anyone is interested.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on June 22, 2012, 09:14:35 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/06/queen_beatrix_visits_prince_fr.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/06/queen_beatrix_visits_prince_fr.php)

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Queen Beatrix flies to London every weekend to visit her son prince Friso who has been in a coma since a skiing accident in February, Story magazine reports on Wednesday.

The report has been confirmed by Pieter van Vollenhoven, husband of Beatrix' sister Margriet, who has not yet visited the prince, the magazine says.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: rogue on June 22, 2012, 10:15:10 pm
This whole situation is just tragic.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on June 22, 2012, 10:45:11 pm
yeah there hasn't been any change to his condition at all has there?  :sob:
nearly six months already!


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 26, 2012, 08:36:52 am
This whole situation is just tragic.

Yes, but he is alive and where there is life, there is hope.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on July 07, 2012, 08:03:24 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/07/royals_pose_for_traditional_su.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/07/royals_pose_for_traditional_su.php)

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Before posing for photographs, the prince told reporters there was no change in the condition of his brother Friso, who is in a coma in hospital in London after a skiing accident earlier this year.

The prince praised the press for leaving the family alone during this difficult time.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on July 10, 2012, 08:38:43 am
http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgpdhome.typepad.com%2Fnieuwsberichten%2F2012%2F07%2Fonderzoek-friso-laat-op-zich-wachten.html (http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgpdhome.typepad.com%2Fnieuwsberichten%2F2012%2F07%2Fonderzoek-friso-laat-op-zich-wachten.html)

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The legal research to serious skiing accident of Prince Friso is completed but not yet released. The prosecution in Feldkirch Austria has declared that it at least "two or three weeks' busy with the completion. Possible that additional research is needed.

The report should make clear what was the cause of the avalanche where the prince was buried. In the state of Friso is no change since the accident occurred. 'The diagnosis is given in Innsbruck, is still'' said Prince Willem-Alexander Saturday during the traditional photo session at the beginning of the summer holidays.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on July 10, 2012, 04:50:43 pm
This whole situation is just tragic.

Yes, but he is alive and where there is life, there is hope.
:thumbsup:
I agree. I truly hope he pulls out of this.

It' very tragic, so sad.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 10, 2012, 08:54:40 pm
The thing is, that people in comas are in them because the body is so traumatized taht it has to go on 'autopilot' and work extra hard to stay alive, which means that it's going to take a lot longer to heal and the body also needs to rest up as well. So until he's dead his body is just using it's 'generator' to keep going.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on August 03, 2012, 08:38:10 am
http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F2874598%2Fbehandeling-friso-zou-hier-gestopt-zijn.html (http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F2874598%2Fbehandeling-friso-zou-hier-gestopt-zijn.html)
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'' If a Dutch Prince Friso was hospitalized, then the treatment was stopped probably because so little is expected.''

That said Senator ethics and Heleen Dupuis (VVD) Thursday evening in the nearby Netherlands discussion program on Radio 5.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: memyselfandroyals on August 03, 2012, 09:25:16 pm
i am so sorry, serene grace  kisss


i hope he'll be okay


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Mooster on September 01, 2012, 02:09:47 am
Dutch coma prince 'should leave UK so he can die' in Netherlands

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/dutch-coma-prince-should-leave-uk-so-he-can-die-in-netherlands-8099209.html?origin=internalSearch



Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 01, 2012, 11:11:25 am
Interesting article, thanks for posting Mooster.

I feel for Prince Friso's family, but sooner or later a decision will have to be made.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: sassafras on September 01, 2012, 11:47:27 am
Such a tragedy! It seems like it would've been easier had he died in the accident. His family is left with shreds of hope, but it seems like it is nothing more than false hope. And the decision to let him die isn't an easy one to make.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on September 21, 2012, 11:56:35 pm
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/12978333/___Prins_Friso_opende_ogen___.html

He apparently opened his eyes and smiled.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on September 22, 2012, 12:00:03 am
oh wow this sounds like a good sign! :thumbsup:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Mooster on September 22, 2012, 12:13:38 am
Yes, good news  :thumbsup:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on September 22, 2012, 12:44:54 am
oh wow this sounds like a good sign! :thumbsup:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/12978333/___Prins_Friso_opende_ogen___.html

He apparently opened his eyes and smiled.

That's amazing, Wonderful news.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: berlin on September 22, 2012, 02:06:29 am
Great news. I'll keep him in my prayers.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2012, 06:19:14 am
I TOLD YOU GUYS HE MIGHT WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the while the rest of you were syaing how Beatrix should pull the plug and that everyone should give up!

Well go figure, he's alive and thankfully no one agreed to pull the plug on him.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2012, 06:21:47 am
Read here:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/12978333/___Prins_Friso_opende_ogen___.html

 :bouncy: :loveshower: :loveshower: :bouncy:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on September 22, 2012, 08:23:46 am
I agreed with you, Kuei Fei.   :flower:

He's young and healthy if they let him stay in coma he may eventually wake up, it happened to my husband's friend, he was in a coma three months the doctor's said he would be a vegetable when he awoke from the car accident which put him in a coma, but now four yrs later he is fine, he has healed and he has no brain damage at all. But perhaps a medical person o board would know more.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2012, 09:27:37 pm
I for one am so thrilled and devoutly impressed that his family never quit on him and never let him go via pulling the plug. What a happy day and I bet the RF is celebrating, especially Beatrix. She will not have to plan and preside over the funeral of her son. No parent should bury a child.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 22, 2012, 09:32:32 pm
If this is true, then I am thrilled and beyond overjoyed for Friso and his family.  But I have only seen it in 2 news stories, and I would have thought this would be covered on all the major news outlets in Europe and the US, like the original avalanche was.  Also, I am not sure that they would announce it via Desmond Tutu... surely they would have a press conference with doctors there?

I hope it's true though.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 22, 2012, 09:48:14 pm
Maybe Beatrix doesn't want to have too much hype since if he's on the mend there is no reason that pressure should be placed on him to make an appearance right away. If he's waking up and responding more, then he can end up relapsing if he's pushed too far too fast.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 22, 2012, 09:55:03 pm
^I think if he is slowly waking up, it could take months before he is well enough to even go for a walk in the hospital garden, so I hope no one will be pushing for an appearance.  This is where medical input into a statement would help.

I think a simple press release saying he is showing possible signs of recovery and they will issue another statement in a few months would be sufficient.  I'm sorry to say I still don't believe these 2 news stories yet because they seem so unofficial.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on September 22, 2012, 10:26:00 pm
Mabel was the one who told this in a tv programme about a charity where she was the president before Friso's accident so they are completely official

what I don't get from the article as I don't understand dutch is if he has woken up or not, is he still in coma?


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 22, 2012, 10:32:05 pm
There are currently only 2 articles coming up in a google news search for "prince friso", limited to the previous week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPowCTsmGyQ
This one is in English, on an Italian site, and mentions Mabel telling Tutu.

http://www.libe.ma/Soirees-du-film-neerlandais-Projection-de-Majesteit-a-Rabat_a30883.html
This one is in French, and my google translator isn't working, so I don't know what it says.



Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on September 22, 2012, 10:37:55 pm
I think she talked about friso in that youtube video


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 22, 2012, 10:43:25 pm
If someone has an English translation of this, could they please post it?  Also, a link to the youtube video please?


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Snokitty on September 22, 2012, 11:58:54 pm
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.libe.ma%2FSoirees-du-film-neerlandais-Projection-de-Majesteit-a-Rabat_a30883.html


http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraaf.nl%2Fbinnenland%2F12978333%2F___Prins_Friso_opende_ogen___.html


Here are your Translations Ladies.  The reactions could just be involuntary reflexes but I hope he is getting better.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 23, 2012, 05:10:07 am
Well, it could be the nerves coming alive again and it may well be that it's one step at a time; he might well be moving very slowly towards it. I do believe however that the Archbishop should not have taken it upon himself to announce this.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: sassafras on September 23, 2012, 05:58:07 am
i hope this isn't false hope.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2012, 02:45:56 am
So do I; this is why I thikn it was stupid of the Archbishop to make such an announcement.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on September 25, 2012, 09:32:00 pm
^^ you think he did without Mabel and the family's consent? they are close friends!

Hope for Dutch royals as Prince Johan Friso briefly wakes from coma

http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/201209259425/prince-johan-friso-opens-eyes-coma/1/


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Spice on September 25, 2012, 09:50:33 pm
I still think there has been hardly any press coverage of this, and no official announcement, so I am waiting until the report from Tutu is confirmed.  If Friso did briefly open his eyes, that is a good sign and shows that some level of recovery is possible, with time.

I think it would be irresponsible for the press to say this unless they were sure Tutu was right, and similarly it would be irresponsible for Tutu to say it unless he were sure Mabel was right.  I would have thought the DRF would want to shout this from the rooftops rather than tell a family friend to tell the press.

Anyway I'm still keeping an open mind one way or another.  And sending positive thoughts and prayers for Friso's recovery.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 26, 2012, 06:54:54 am
I think he's bene improving, but until there is any solid concrete proof, it's none of our business and Tutu should not have announced it.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on October 30, 2012, 10:37:30 am
http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fmedia%2F2944331%2Fnational-geographic-in-fout-met-bericht-dood-prins-friso.html (http://translate.google.nl/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fmedia%2F2944331%2Fnational-geographic-in-fout-met-bericht-dood-prins-friso.html)
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AMSTERDAM - National Geographic Channel has reported Sunday that Prince Friso is deceased. The transmitter condolences to the royal family with the death of the prince.

Later in the morning turned out to be a grievous mistake to go.

In response to NU.nl allows National Geographic Channel know that a tape with the obituary for unknown reason started.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Alexandrine on October 30, 2012, 04:20:19 pm
^^ what a strange thing


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on October 30, 2012, 10:01:04 pm
hmm this a case of being prepared for the worst huh?
I guess someone accidentally switched tapes and pushed a wrong button, oopsy!
Not the first time this has happened although usually most 'fake deaths' now starts with a tweet, I think the pope was declared death twice by twitter last year! :tehe:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on November 19, 2012, 02:26:03 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/11/prince_friso_nine_months_in_a.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/11/prince_friso_nine_months_in_a.php)

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Prince Friso, who has been in a coma since a skiing accident February, is showing ‘signs of limited awareness,’ the state information service RVD said on Monday.

'Prince Friso has recently begun to show signs of limited awareness; a state commonly known as minimal consciousness,' the statement said.

Nevertheless, 'the prognosis continues to be very uncertain and the medical team remains gravely concerned. It will take many months to get more clarity,' the statement said.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2012, 02:30:37 pm
Wow that sounds rather positive
To be honest i was starting to think he might not recover at all but this sounds like he's slowly crawling out of the coma! :thumbsup:


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2012, 02:50:39 pm
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/11/prince_friso_nine_months_in_a.php (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/11/prince_friso_nine_months_in_a.php)

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Prince Friso, who has been in a coma since a skiing accident February, is showing ‘signs of limited awareness,’ the state information service RVD said on Monday.

'Prince Friso has recently begun to show signs of limited awareness; a state commonly known as minimal consciousness,' the statement said.

Nevertheless, 'the prognosis continues to be very uncertain and the medical team remains gravely concerned. It will take many months to get more clarity,' the statement said.

I glad ot hear about this; for one, I am glad I never joined the chorus of "PULL THE PLUG" that surrounded the accident. There were people shrieking about how the DRF should just pull the life support off now before the family suffers too much by having ot wait. Already posters were declaring him brain dead.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: serene grace on November 19, 2012, 02:56:59 pm
I'm so glad to hear he is doing better and showing signs of recovery. I *despise* it when people give up hope. I went through a event with my sister, it's better to stay positive and keep hope alive. A nurse told me at the time my sis was in a coma, that they can pick up on vibrations from others around them, staying positive is always best.

I'm so happy for him, I wish him a full recovery.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2012, 10:59:16 pm
It'll be great for him to be alive, even if brain damaged. A human is still human. I bet Beatrix and Mabel would prefer a brain damaged son/husband  than one in a grave.


Title: Dutch Prince in critical condition after avalanche
Post by: memyselfandroyals on November 28, 2012, 11:10:46 pm
i am happy for all family  :sorry: