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Title: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Stargazer on January 25, 2014, 10:56:27 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545708/Williams-war-rhino-butchers-How-Prince-entering-fray-dramatic-behalf-beleaguered-animal.html

Prince William is attending a conference in Downing Street On the illegal wildlife trade, supported by Prince Harry and Kate.



Not sure if the others will attend, but it is time someone took up the cause!


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 25, 2014, 11:23:13 am
Pathetic.  So many problems in the UK, people struggling to make ends meet, old people dying of the cold because they can't afford to pay for heating, and all he can worry about is saving rhinos. This says a lot about his mentality, or lack of it.  If he ever becomes king then God help the UK. 

He reminds me of king juan carlos of Spain.  President of the Spanish WWF effort, caught on camera grinning from ear to ear having just killed an elephant.  Needless to say he has been removed from that presidency.  Wimpo hunts and kills animals here in the UK, probably approves of fox hunting, so he is being a total  hypocrite here.  If he feels that strongly about the rhinos let him renounce all his royal rights and go live in Africa and sort save his rhinos.  Most people in the UK can't afford their shopping bills, let along a flight to Africa, so what good is wimpo saving rhinos doing them.

These days wimpo sickens me.  With his petulance, his laziness, his over inflated opinion of himself, his lazy wife, his surrogate baby  -  that guy seriously needs help to sort his brain out.  Can you imagine how he will bring the monarchy and UK down if he ever makes the throne, perish the thought.

Go save your rhinos in Africa wimpo, and stay there for life.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Stephanie on January 25, 2014, 12:12:35 pm
^
 :goodpost:
This article makes it clear how naive Wimpo is.
Even governments and the park rangers are involved and there's nothing Wimpo can do to change that.
Especially not with his normal routine involving a standard guilt trip, the obligatory teary eye and gazing at rhino's on his mobile. :nervous:


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Raisie on January 25, 2014, 12:20:05 pm
i know i don't have nothing now to defend William,the man do what he wants and usually is to destroy himself and everyone who loves him still i better read that he does something than read that he does nothing at all.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on January 25, 2014, 12:31:10 pm
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He will be supported by the Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry.
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Prices have soared even higher as rhino horn powder has become the ultimate status symbol as a recreational drug in both China and Vietnam, with millionaires there prepared to pay up to £60,000 a kilo.
Again PW and PH will bring attention to this cause, Rhino's are being killed for selfish acts.  60,000 a kilo for there tusks to be ground up into powder that's sickening.  

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William’s plans also include recruiting the support of young conservationists who the charity hopes will have the energy and passion to take up the rhino’s cause.
I do hope he can find others who are willing to put a stop to this



Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: MelissaRose on January 25, 2014, 01:29:02 pm
Another over privileged idiot taking on the glamorous causes.  :wopedo:
Does he not care about the people starving in Africa? What about the constant genocide, female genital mutilation, human rights issues, gay slayings, the witch hunts still going on in this day and age?
What about the people living in poverty in his own country?
Bloody tosser (btw I am very much pro-animal rights and anti-poaching, but there are other issues of equal and more importance which Willy is ignoring because of his silly rhino obsession)...
Why rhinos anyway? Plenty of other animals in severe danger of eventual extinction - elephants, big cats, sharks even...


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Emperor on January 25, 2014, 03:14:03 pm
^  :worship: :worship:


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on January 25, 2014, 05:03:46 pm
yup even if he did those and brought attention to them he'd be blasted for it so what's the point of him doing anything? At least he's trying to do something useful even if most of you aren't happy with him which is 99 percent of the time


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: MelissaRose on January 25, 2014, 06:01:19 pm
Actually, as much as Willy annoys me at times, he'd have my full support and admiration if he would commit himself to worthwhile causes (same with Kate). I simply cannot take him seriously for obsessing over fecking rhinos and being too damn selfish to help the needy in Britain - or in Africa despite his obvious obsession with the continent. It just pisses me off, I'm a student under 25 and not in any kind of special position yet I have done a lot for charity already. It's not even my job to support charities, unlike with Willnot, I just do it because I want to help. The fact that W+K simply cannot be bothered even though it's their damn job infuriates me, it's simply unacceptable and shows lack of compassion on both their parts. Especially when many of the other royals do more than their fair share - Harry is in a lesser position than WillKat and yet he is much more of a philanthropist and has genuine passion for several causes, particularly involving the military and Africa (people, not rhinos). He even founded his own charity, Sentebale.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: cate1949 on January 25, 2014, 08:01:10 pm
in my estimation animal conservation is a worthwhile cause - I do not think it should be his only cause - but it is appropriate for him to be involved in this.



Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: india on January 25, 2014, 09:16:56 pm
William's problem is that his head is lodged permanently up his backside. It is my understanding that there is no known cure for that.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 25, 2014, 10:28:34 pm
 :goodpost: MelissaRose.  Well said.  If he likes Africa that much then let him up sticks and live there, and let them fund his privileged and luxurious life style.  I am very pro animal rights and anti poaching, and I *despise* with a vengeance any cruelty to animals.  A lot of my time and money goes into caring for abandoned and abused animals in many different ways.  But there are worthy causes in the UK, many, many of them, and let us not forget how he blasts innocent birds out of the sky and kills innocent deer doing him no harm, and goodness alone knows what other innocents he kills in the name of "sport".  I cannot respect what he is doing in this instance, and disagree that doing something is better than doing nothing  -  hios "doing something is better than nothing" should be done in the UK, not abroad.  if the government in Africa can't stop it then why he thinks he can is beyond me.  Still in his celebrity mode I expect, not get the memo from chaz yet that he needs to knuckle down and do some serious royal work.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Val on January 25, 2014, 10:53:54 pm
Wimpo is a hypocrite with a capital H.

A week day meeting about saving Rhinos (who should be saved) then a 'sporting' weekend killing animals and birds.  Just doesn't add up to me.   


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on January 26, 2014, 12:16:10 am
William shoots birds for fun and he is a huge hypocrite getting all pious about rhinos. Some of the endangered species came from sporting royals who shot them for trophies.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: CathyJane on January 26, 2014, 03:56:34 am
William's problem is that his head is lodged permanently up his backside. It is my understanding that there is no known cure for that.

Maybe a barium wash.  :P


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Raisie on January 26, 2014, 02:13:46 pm
:goodpost: MelissaRose.  Well said.  If he likes Africa that much then let him up sticks and live there, and let them fund his privileged and luxurious life style.  I am very pro animal rights and anti poaching, and I *critical objection* with a vengeance any cruelty to animals.  A lot of my time and money goes into caring for abandoned and abused animals in many different ways.  But there are worthy causes in the UK, many, many of them, and let us not forget how he blasts innocent birds out of the sky and kills innocent deer doing him no harm, and goodness alone knows what other innocents he kills in the name of "sport".  I cannot respect what he is doing in this instance, and disagree that doing something is better than doing nothing  -  hios "doing something is better than nothing" should be done in the UK, not abroad.  if the government in Africa can't stop it then why he thinks he can is beyond me.  Still in his celebrity mode I expect, not get the memo from chaz yet that he needs to knuckle down and do some serious royal work.
Agree on something,that there should be causes in the UK that William can do apart of Wildlife (i say apart,not to him to stop support wildlife).Rhinos are not the only ones who needs protection,there are species in the UK as well and others parts in Europe: The iberian lynx in Spain,The Scottish Wildcat,Chetahs,etc.
Know what humans have made to other species is so terrible and make me feel bad of be human as well.
Lions exist in all Europe now only exist in Africa and the Jaguar exist from North Mexico to part of South America now only exist in few parts of Mexico and Center America.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on January 27, 2014, 10:26:37 am
I see some others also feel that wimpo could give some time and charity closer to home.

http://www.stirringtroubleinternationally.com/2014/01/27/why-dont-the-windsors-visit-the-flood-hit-areas-in-britain/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+StirringTroubleInternationally+%28Stirring+Trouble+Internationally%29



Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Aquitaine on January 27, 2014, 10:49:53 am
The problem is that those who want William to focus on domestic causes will be the same people who will condemn him for not building a profile internationally - or at the very least, amongst the Commonwealth. A balance of the two would be best, IMO.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: cate1949 on January 27, 2014, 06:52:57 pm
^^good article - why haven't they visited - the royals are usually very good about this sort of thing - seems odd - wonder if the government doesn't want them visiting


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on January 27, 2014, 07:09:46 pm
I saw a show about Prince Charles showing home movies of his childhood (on a PBS station). I thought of William and conservation as I noticed Charles walking down a corridor surrounded by mounted deer heads.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 27, 2014, 09:03:39 pm
He's just being foolish and fashionable; his biggest mistake is to worry about stuff that isn't going to help his country, Britain and the Commonwealth being his country.

The problem is that those who want William to focus on domestic causes will be the same people who will condemn him for not building a profile internationally - or at the very least, amongst the Commonwealth. A balance of the two would be best, IMO.

Not being able to win is something he's going to have to get used to; he should have been focusing on domestic stuff during his twenties and not jet setting. He is behind, because he put his maturity and responsibilities off, something that he never should have done.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: MOSAIC on January 27, 2014, 09:04:32 pm
Many, many years ago, there was an international campaign against the wearing
of furs, rightfully so IMO.  All the royals pitched in.  I recall a big function attended
by the then Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, plus all the other royals, and of
course all the nobilities and well=to=do.  One commentator put it so well:
You could tell all the pro=animal, anti fur women in the audience, by all the
swathes of fur coats being worn.  They just didn''t equate one thing with the other,
just another fashionable cause to them.  I think Wimpo and his ilk are just the same.
Eventually this caravan will move on too, to some other fashionable cause. It always
does..
No one ever said it better than F. Scott Fitzgerald "When the going gets tough,
the rich climb back into their money and move on."


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Raisie on January 27, 2014, 09:16:45 pm
Many, many years ago, there was an international campaign against the wearing
of furs, rightfully so IMO.  All the royals pitched in.  I recall a big function attended
by the then Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, plus all the other royals, and of
course all the nobilities
and well=to=do.  One commentator put it so well:
You could tell all the pro=animal, anti fur women in the audience, by all the
swathes of fur coats being worn.  They just didn''t equate one thing with the other,
just another fashionable cause to them.  I think Wimpo and his ilk are just the same.
Eventually this caravan will move on too, to some other fashionable cause. It always
does..
No one ever said it better than F. Scott Fitzgerald "When the going gets tough,
the rich climb back into their money and move on."

You mean all the nobilities in Netherlands?


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: MOSAIC on January 27, 2014, 09:25:38 pm

No Raisie,  :sorry: I meant Europe wide,  plus UK, US, all who attended.

I also did not mean to imply that the then Queen Beatrix or the other
royalty were among those who wore fur to that function.  They did not,
they wore cloaks and other capes etc. 

The commentator was referring to many members of an international audience.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: cate1949 on January 28, 2014, 02:26:43 am
The slaughter of animals - especially the Elephants tigers etc to the point where extinction outside of zoos is imminent is a tragedy and I don't care if Will is sincere or only in it cause it's fashionable etc - as long as he helps to bring attention and hopefully get some action - it is a help.   Personally - I think he is sincere as this is one issue he has persistently been involved in since his gap year.  I understand no one wants to see him focus on this to the exclusion of concerns in the UK - he surely can find the time to lend a hand on UK issues.  But I still think this is an important issue and I am glad to see him bringing attention to it.

We complain he is not focused - but when he gets focused - we complain it is not the right focus.  This is a step in the right direction - one step at a time.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: benign on January 28, 2014, 02:31:14 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545708/Williams-war-rhino-butchers-How-Prince-entering-fray-dramatic-behalf-beleaguered-animal.html

Prince William is attending a conference in Downing Street On the illegal wildlife trade, supported by Prince Harry and Kate.

Not sure if the others will attend, but it is time someone took up the cause!
seriously He should be applauded for doing something but how many years has he been doing this and got any results? How is one supposed to protect an endangered species if they are living across the pond. Its good to be talking about it but wheres the action?

does this mean he miss his classes at Cambridge? guy cant seem to find himself even though his people try so hard.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on January 28, 2014, 02:45:26 am
The thing is I don't think this makes William looks "focused." He seems more scattered and appears still to be a dabbler. He does little except go to banquets and maybe visits estates in Africa of wealthy friends. The problem is he can't seem to get himself in gear and really do things and seem to have some sort of an interest.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 28, 2014, 03:01:20 am
William doesn't' go to banquets either.

I think he's deteriorating pretty badly.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Stephanie on January 28, 2014, 06:38:13 pm
 Thunder faced Wimpo spotted with an overnight bag.
http://www.ntd.tv/en/news/world/europe/20140128/86574-first-night-without-family-prince-william-back-at-university.html :Carole:


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on January 28, 2014, 08:11:38 pm
China set to join wildlife crime talks in London after Prince William's mission
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/china-set-to-join-wildlife-crime-talks-in-london-after-prince-williams-mission-9090690.html
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In a victory for Prince William the Chinese government will send a minister to London next month to discuss the illegal trade in ivory and rhaino horn.
 
The Duke of Cambridge has been urging China to do more to help the international battle against poaching.

It has seen a sustained behind-the-scenes effort, led by Environment Secretary Owen Paterson, aimed at persuading the Chinese to come to a conference on the illegal wildlife trade at the start of February. Governments from across Asia and Africa are expected to attend.

China is a huge market for ivory, rhino horn and tiger parts and ministers believe it has a key role in tackling poaching and trafficking.

A government source said: “There has been two trips to China to get them on board and we have been assiduously trying to persuade them to come.”  

William is expected to make a speech at the event, which will be attended by David Cameron, Foreign Secretary William Hague and US secretary of state John Kerry.

well hopefully China follows through


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Magnolia on February 03, 2014, 06:40:05 am
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Prince William is attending a conference in Downing Street On the illegal wildlife trade, supported by Prince Harry and Kate.
The 3 fakes who themselves shoot animals with grins on their crusty faces.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Aquitaine on February 03, 2014, 08:05:28 am
^ So true. Off-topic, but do you remember when the papers tried to spin Kate as being morally-opposed to the traditional Boxing Day shoot on her first married-in Christmas - when the truth is that women aren't allowed to participate? Nobody seemed to buy it.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: CathyJane on February 03, 2014, 07:06:39 pm
I remember that. And considering she was blasting the poor birds out of the sky a few years before....


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 03, 2014, 07:28:47 pm
China set to join wildlife crime talks in London after Prince William's mission
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/china-set-to-join-wildlife-crime-talks-in-london-after-prince-williams-mission-9090690.html
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In a victory for Prince William the Chinese government will send a minister to London next month to discuss the illegal trade in ivory and rhaino horn.
 
The Duke of Cambridge has been urging China to do more to help the international battle against poaching.

It has seen a sustained behind-the-scenes effort, led by Environment Secretary Owen Paterson, aimed at persuading the Chinese to come to a conference on the illegal wildlife trade at the start of February. Governments from across Asia and Africa are expected to attend.

China is a huge market for ivory, rhino horn and tiger parts and ministers believe it has a key role in tackling poaching and trafficking.

A government source said: “There has been two trips to China to get them on board and we have been assiduously trying to persuade them to come.”  

William is expected to make a speech at the event, which will be attended by David Cameron, Foreign Secretary William Hague and US secretary of state John Kerry.
well hopefully China follows through

This isn't just William, but a result of diplomats; I also believe that the Chinese are just humoring the British, since nothing will stop them from getting involved in hunting.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Aquitaine on February 04, 2014, 07:57:24 am
@ CathyJane: Exactly.

@ Kuei Fei: I think you're probably right. I think rhino horn/tiger parts is wanted for use in traditional Chinese medicine, and it'll be very difficult to amend/censure a large part of your cultural heritage like that.

It's irritating that William is getting all the credit for other people's hard work - let's hope he doesn't say or do something that will undo it all.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Raisie on February 04, 2014, 09:35:24 am
^ tradition or not is not funny.Kill animals is  bignono just like bullfighting.
Some spanish people is tradition but see an animal die in such way is not good.Tiger,rhino and bullfighting should end and soon! tigers are very much in danger for extinction if you know.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Aquitaine on February 04, 2014, 08:04:52 pm
^ Hi Raisie - I'm not saying that it shouldn't end, I'm just pointing out that it might be difficult to get the Chinese people to agree to a ban, even if the Chinese govt decides to criminalise such practices. You mentioned Spanish bull fighting in your post; well, in some parts of Spain bull fighting HAS been banned, but last year Spanish politicians signed a petition agreeing that bull fighting should be given "special cultural status" (meaning that it would be decriminalised) precisely BECAUSE it's part of Spain's tradition - this article explains it better: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21437314

(Sorry for going off-topic, mods.)


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 04, 2014, 09:34:38 pm
thank you Fly on the wall for posting this in another thread

British Royals‏@britishroyals·
Charles & William will work to highlight Illegal Wildlife Trade next week. They'll attend conferences (Feb 12-13) & release a video (Feb 9)
will be interesting to see the outcome of this


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 04, 2014, 09:53:44 pm
Thing is, that the Chinese might refuse; this likely reminds them of the colonial times (something they will never forget or forgive) and putting up with a dissolute British prince lecturing them about morality will likely end with them refusing outright if only for the satisfaction of slapping a member of the British RF publicly. Since the Chinese are fierce about their national heritage and their right to determine their own future, certainly they will not let themselves be publicly ordered around. There is no way that the Chinese will allow themselves to lose face in such a manner. This will end with an outright refusal, or a public agreement, but a private rejection.

@ CathyJane: Exactly.
@ Kuei Fei: I think you're probably right. I think rhino horn/tiger parts is wanted for use in traditional Chinese medicine, and it'll be very difficult to amend/censure a large part of your cultural heritage like that.
It's irritating that William is getting all the credit for other people's hard work - let's hope he doesn't say or do something that will undo it all.

I wonder how many diplomats are seething that they won't get credited for this arrangement.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 05, 2014, 12:25:58 pm
Prince William and Prince Charles team up against illegal wildlife trade
http://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014020416840/prince-william-prince-charles-illegal-wildlife-trade/
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Ever since the arrival of his son, Prince William has a renewed passion for protecting endangered wildlife. To help further highlight the cause, the Prince is teaming up with his own father for a series of high-profile events in February.

Prince Charles and William are working together to encourage others to help tackle the illegal wildlife trade, as part of a week-long awareness campaign in London.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: True Brit on February 05, 2014, 01:00:55 pm
LOL^ Yes well of course that's every new father's instinct when their new son or daughter arrives - rush off and protect endangered species. Who writes this rubbish?


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 09, 2014, 04:20:50 am
Tanzania slaughters over 11,000 elephants a year for the bloody trade in tusks and its President turns a blind eye, so will the Prince really shake hands with him?
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2554773/Tanzania-slaughters-11-000-elephants-year-bloody-trade-tusks-President-turns-blind-eye-Prince-really-shake-hands-him.html#ixzz2snMoJsjB
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On Thursday, a summit on how to save endangered species begins
Is being hosted by the Government at the behest of the Prince of Wales and Duke of Cambridge at London's Lancaster House
50 heads of state and ministers will attempt to agree a global response
Illegal trade in wildlife parts is worth £6bn a year and funds terrorist groups


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: cate1949 on February 09, 2014, 04:24:13 am
^ that really is horrific - wonder how many deer Will has killed?

I do hope there is some success at this conference -


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Stephanie on February 09, 2014, 07:18:59 pm
http://www.pueblos-espana.org/fotos_originales/0/3/1/00712031.jpg
Wimpo in 2012


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 09, 2014, 09:11:22 pm
 wish I could actually understand the article to comment


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: AngelofDespair on February 09, 2014, 09:34:44 pm
Translation:Junto with his brother Enrique was hunting this week u Ciudad Realu on the grounds of "La Garganta",where they still talk about the skill of youngs and their friends  in partridges hunt.all people are blue blood or with lineage since it is a condition "sine qua non"  to hunt in the area.


Junto and Enrique are spanish names for W and H and "sine qua non" it is a phrase and i think it means "without" in this context but not sure


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 10, 2014, 05:26:17 pm
Not going away. There is a petition against this on the link below.  Anyone wishing to sign can click into it and wil god irect to the petition.

http://www.yousign.org/en/prince-william-hunting


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 10, 2014, 05:35:42 pm
not sure what good this petition is going to do? what they want Prince William and Prince Harry to do? Not go hunting because some don't believe in what they do for fun?  I may not agree with shooting animals for blood sport but they didn't break any laws.  When they do break laws it gets over looked anyways so what's the point?


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: AnaBolena on February 10, 2014, 05:57:40 pm
Lots of things aren't against the law, but it doesn't make them right.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 10, 2014, 06:23:39 pm
I have no idea of what the petition might or might not achieve, if nothing else it is highlighting what has happened and how hypocritical wimpo is.  Illegal or not, defenceless, innocent animals are being killed for "fun" or "magic" potions or whatever.  Whether anyone wants to sign it or not the petition is out there, and Facebook (which is where I found it) has a lot of power and reaches far and wide.  A lot of people are vegetarian or vegan these days and want to stand up against the killing of animals for "fun".  If Harry gets away with killing rare birds then then it is odds on that wimpo won't be taken to task, as evidenced by the statement by the WWF, who also have done their cause no good.  Really, it boils down to personal opinion and what the individual wants to do.  I have signed the petition, and will sign any petition, whether about wimpo or anyone else, on senseless killing of animals.  I think people feel that at least they have to try, and it harms nobody. Sometimes a lot can be achieved if many people pull together.   If we don't try we don't know.  Again, down to individuals at the end of the day.                                             


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 10, 2014, 06:33:32 pm
just my opinion here if there is going to be on petition for a Prince who shoots animals...then there should be a book for everyone else who does the same thing...Prince William and Prince Harry are not the only ones out there that do hunting for "fun" if one is going to have a cow about a Prince doing this then they should have a cow for the millions that continue to do this as well...oh that's right these other people aren't important because they have no title


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 10, 2014, 10:33:18 pm
Personally I have no problem with the petition.  I assume wimpo is being targeted because of his high profile and his hypocrisy re conservation of the rhinos.  I put the link on here in case any concerned person wanted to sign it.  If the link offends anyone please ask the mods to remove it, it is not a problem for me and happy for anyone to do so with no offence taken.

As we all know, it is impossible to take on the whole world, that could never happen, but you have to start somewhere, sometime.  At least there are some people out there who are trying to do something, more than a lot of others on this planet do, most just sit back and grumble from their armchairs.  Wimpo will be a good target because of his high profile, which will have more effect one hopes than targeting Fred Bloggs from No. 30, and am assuming that is what the petition organisers are also hoping.  No harm in trying, full marks to them.  It is always the high profile people, titled or untitled, who get the hit, for the very reason that they are high profile.  And we have to admit his timing was very poor, a killing trip on the eve of a conservation conference lasting several days.

I have signed the petition, my part is over. I will always support against the killing of innocent wildlife, and hope many more in the world will do so in the future.  I did not start the petition, so if anyone has a problem with it, or wishes to criticise/question the people who did,  then I can only suggest they take it up with the petition organisers, I am sure their contact details must be available on the petition itself.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: cate1949 on February 11, 2014, 12:27:25 am
killing for food or culling to protect other species/environments seems like one acceptable thing to me - but the issue is killing for fun.  We have learned a lot more about animals and one thing we do know now is that animals have emotions - feelings - I also think they have the  right to exist on this planet with us as best we can.  They are not objects for our amusement but living creatures who have a place.  Will and Harry can do their living in harmony thing - well - this is how you live in harmony - you do not destroy life for fun or pleasure.  Keep in mind lots of cruelty to animals used to be perfectly acceptable and it has now been recognized as inhumane and has been stopped.  Progress.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 12:21:14 pm
^
 :goodpost:
This article makes it clear how naive Wimpo is.
Even governments and the park rangers are involved and there's nothing Wimpo can do to change that.
Especially not with his normal routine involving a standard guilt trip, the obligatory teary eye and gazing at rhino's on his mobile. :nervous:

Isn't Rhino conservation Jecca and her family's thing?? I've always been suspicious since the announcement that he was going to be plugging conservation in Africa.

I wonder if he would have married Jecca if his destiny hadn't stopped him from upping sticks and living in Africa? He has always said that he would move to Africa in a heart beat. Hmmmm


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 12:24:20 pm
Rhino's and tigers wouldn't be on the verge of extinction if royals and their friends hadn't hunted them to the point of...


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 13, 2014, 12:31:13 pm
 :goodpost: cate1949, totally agree.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: True Brit on February 13, 2014, 01:07:32 pm
It was the aristos and crowned heads of Europe who used to go on drive by shootings in the 1920s and 30s. These idiots weren't even good shots so the damage and injury they must have inflicted upon these creatures must have been enormous.

Let's be honest this isn't the ordinary person's past-time is it? Most ordinary people may not have the funds to embark on these expeditions but if they had most have too much respect for the animals.

Channel 4 News had an in depth report on this and asked why the hypocrisy when endangered birds like the Golden Eagle, Hen Harriers and White Tailed Eagles are being killed and poached in Scotland by those involved in the grouse shooting estates. A longish piece but well worth watching.

http://www.channel4.com/news/hunting-hypocrisy-princes-accused-over-wildlife-initiative


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Freya on February 13, 2014, 01:14:35 pm

Isn't Rhino conservation Jecca and her family's thing?? I've always been suspicious since the announcement that he was going to be plugging conservation in Africa.

I wonder if he would have married Jecca if his destiny hadn't stopped him from upping sticks and living in Africa? He has always said that he would move to Africa in a heart beat. Hmmmm
:goodpost:

I totally agree. In a recent post I mention the comments by James Whitaker who thought that William loved Kate but was not in love with her. I have always thought that he settled for Kate but his heart was not really in it. He also seems to have aged a lot since the wedding and never looks happy when he is publicly appearing with Kate.




Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 01:47:35 pm
It was the aristos and crowned heads of Europe who used to go on drive by shootings in the 1920s and 30s. These idiots weren't even good shots so the damage and injury they must have inflicted upon these creatures must have been enormous.

Let's be honest this isn't the ordinary person's past-time is it? Most ordinary people may not have the funds to embark on these expeditions but if they had most have too much respect for the animals.

Channel 4 News had an in depth report on this and asked why the hypocrisy when endangered birds like the Golden Eagle, Hen Harriers and White Tailed Eagles are being killed and poached in Scotland by those involved in the grouse shooting estates. A longish piece but well worth watching.

http://www.channel4.com/news/hunting-hypocrisy-princes-accused-over-wildlife-initiative

Excellent point. Hypocrisy and could be used againt Willy by those who want the ivory trade to continue. It's a vile trade and one that should be stopped. I just don't think that Willy commands the respect required to head such an important project. He would need to be squeaky clean. One of the delegates yesterday was keen to point out that he did not hunt. Willy has only himself to blame


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 01:56:26 pm

Isn't Rhino conservation Jecca and her family's thing?? I've always been suspicious since the announcement that he was going to be plugging conservation in Africa.

I wonder if he would have married Jecca if his destiny hadn't stopped him from upping sticks and living in Africa? He has always said that he would move to Africa in a heart beat. Hmmmm
:goodpost:

I totally agree. In a recent post I mention the comments by James Whitaker who thought that William loved Kate but was not in love with her. I have always thought that he settled for Kate but his heart was not really in it. He also seems to have aged a lot since the wedding and never looks happy when he is publicly appearing with Kate.




James Whittaker also said that waity was totally unsuitable to enter the RF.Ha. I wish he was still alive. Would love to know his thoughts on her flying hems and Willy's weekend. And you're right Freya. He does look a deeply unhappy man.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: india on February 13, 2014, 03:12:26 pm
Imagine what goes on in The Viper's Nest. Willy now sees through all of that and sees them for what they are. I wonder if he realizes what a stupid fool he has been? How he has cut off his nose to spite his face. He probably can't stomach the thought or sight of them. This is why he looks so bad. This has caused his dramatic aging.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 03:34:31 pm
I have no idea of what the petition might or might not achieve, if nothing else it is highlighting what has happened and how hypocritical wimpo is.  Illegal or not, defenceless, innocent animals are being killed for "fun" or "magic" potions or whatever.  Whether anyone wants to sign it or not the petition is out there, and Facebook (which is where I found it) has a lot of power and reaches far and wide.  A lot of people are vegetarian or vegan these days and want to stand up against the killing of animals for "fun".  If Harry gets away with killing rare birds then then it is odds on that wimpo won't be taken to task, as evidenced by the statement by the WWF, who also have done their cause no good.  Really, it boils down to personal opinion and what the individual wants to do.  I have signed the petition, and will sign any petition, whether about wimpo or anyone else, on senseless killing of animals.  I think people feel that at least they have to try, and it harms nobody. Sometimes a lot can be achieved if many people pull together.   If we don't try we don't know.  Again, down to individuals at the end of the day.                                             

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  :flower: I have also signed the petition

The argument is not that wimpo shootd but the sheer hypocrisy that he went on a killing spree before standing up and preaching that others should not. One of the delegates pointed out that he does not hunt. How can anyone take wimpo seriously? He is the wrong figure head for such an important project


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 13, 2014, 03:45:08 pm
his brother Prince Harry has done the exact same thing yet he seems to be getting a pass on all of this when he was right next to Prince William shooting these animals...how can any one take Prince William or Prince Harry seriously after all this...Prince Harry also was involved in illegally shooting endangered birds a few years back...but people seem to be alright with that fact. 

Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince Harry, the Queen etc etc shouldn't be the figure head for this type of situation if you wanna get technical


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2014, 03:51:27 pm
Harry has not put himself forward as a defender of animals. He hunts for fun just like William. William should do some charity work with people and not play advocate for animals considering he offs them for fun.

William doing this is like Sarah Palin who revels in hunting prey with hre shotgun going out and talking about animal rights.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 03:51:46 pm
his brother Prince Harry has done the exact same thing yet he seems to be getting a pass on all of this when he was right next to Prince William shooting these animals...how can any one take Prince William or Prince Harry seriously after all this...Prince Harry also was involved in illegally shooting endangered birds a few years back...but people seem to be alright with that fact. 

Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince Harry, the Queen etc etc shouldn't be the figure head for this type of situation if you wanna get technical

I agree. I dont think any of them should. The discussion was regarding Willy. He has set himself up as consevation action hero for this year. Pity someone who is not a hypocrite could have the same coverage that Willy brings. It's also a pity that he had to hunt that particular weekend. Its not as if he is particularly time strapped


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 13, 2014, 03:56:51 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545708/Williams-war-rhino-butchers-How-Prince-entering-fray-dramatic-behalf-beleaguered-animal.html

Prince William is attending a conference in Downing Street On the illegal wildlife trade, supported by Prince Harry and Kate.

Not sure if the others will attend, but it is time someone took up the cause!
actually the article was about Kate and Prince Harry supporting prince William in this cause so yeah it's regarding all three of them


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2014, 03:58:29 pm
But Will is doing the talking and acting all noble and posturing.

I think Kate's interest in hunting ended when she got the ring. Don't see much of her picking up dead birds anymore.As I recall she wore fur several times, so she is no role model in helping animals

Harry does hunt for fun and he is phony too for being for animal rights.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 04:02:12 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545708/Williams-war-rhino-butchers-How-Prince-entering-fray-dramatic-behalf-beleaguered-animal.html

Prince William is attending a conference in Downing Street On the illegal wildlife trade, supported by Prince Harry and Kate.

Not sure if the others will attend, but it is time someone took up the cause!
actually the article was about Kate and Prince Harry supporting prince William in this cause so yeah it's regarding all three of them

The discussion on the board has been about Willy's hypocrisy. As it has been dicussed on twitter and todays UK papers


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: DebbieB on February 13, 2014, 04:06:24 pm
But Will is doing the talking and acting all noble and posturing.

I think Kate's interest in hunting ended when she got the ring. Don't see much of her picking up dead birds anymore.As I recall she wore fur several times, so she is no role model in helping animals

Harry does hunt for fun and he is phony too for being for animal rights.

I agree. Willy has set himself up as the conservation hero. Almost as laughable is prince Philip being the president of the WWF after he shot tigers in India. This is why I have no respect for either of them and think willy has an ulterior motive for becoming a spokesman for conservation. Little jolly's to Kenya spring to mind.  lol


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Stephanie on February 13, 2014, 04:25:58 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/02/13/royal-princes-star-at-illegal-wildlife-conference/5449299/
Rhino wants to bypass national laws and have little chats with bankers.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Nighthawk on February 13, 2014, 08:35:58 pm
Prince William and David Beckham team up to promote wildlife campaign
http://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2014021317003/prince-william-david-beckham-yao-ming-wildlife/
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Prince William and David Beckham have once again joined forces to campaign for the protection of endangered species.

 The fellow dads have released a video for WildAid — the organisation that works to end illegal wildlife trafficking — in which they star alongside retired Chinese basketball player Yao Ming.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Stephanie on February 13, 2014, 08:39:28 pm
He just can't stop with David Beckham, can he?


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: sandy on February 13, 2014, 08:40:30 pm
It's a Bromance (like the films with Paul Rudd et al about friendships between men).


Title: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 16, 2014, 09:40:54 am
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/prince-william-wants-all-royal-ivory-destroyed-9131140.html :sly:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 16, 2014, 12:23:27 pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/prince-william-wants-all-royal-ivory-destroyed-9131140.html :sly:

I read yesterday that PC wants all the ivory hidden. Interesting that his son apparently wants it destroyed.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 16, 2014, 03:27:23 pm
How ridiculous.  I do not approve of elephant hunting, never have ad never will, and hope it is stopped once and for all, such a waste of the life of a beautiful animal.  But in truth to remove the ivory and destroy it is rather like shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted. The animal has been killed, the ivory is beautiful, if it can't be admired then the poor soul truly lost his life for nothing.  If by destroying the ivory you could return life to the deceased elephant then I would be the first to support it, but that is wanting the impossible.  Seriously, are they all mentally challenged in that family. They sound like a load of loons together without a brain cell between them.

No mention then of ceasing to kill UK wildlife, endangered or otherwise.  No, thought not.  Hope they all choke on their next meal of game pie.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Freya on February 16, 2014, 03:28:59 pm
Some of the ivory will be legally obtained from animals that die naturally unlike most fur. 


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Snowdrop on February 16, 2014, 03:46:26 pm
Some interesting comments on DM article re this including one asking if he Mrs Middleton's permission :bouncy: :bouncy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560540/Prince-William-vows-destroy-ivory-Buckingham-Palace-send-message-illegal-elephant-poachers.html


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: benign on February 16, 2014, 03:51:21 pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/prince-william-wants-all-royal-ivory-destroyed-9131140.html :sly:
i am sorry but this makes him looked like I dont know  :laugh: what a stupid thing to ask. and pray tell what would he replace it with...his history of what...


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 16, 2014, 04:30:14 pm
Just hoped over to the article.  Jeepers, the comments are so scathing.  If he was hoping to get a pat on the head and told what a good and clever boy he is then he failed, MISERABLY. Bet he wishes that article was never released, he is taking a right bashing.   The press and the public are definitely on the turn, big time.  Sorry to say his killing spree last weekend will haunt him for ever, for more reasons than one.

Meant to say, love the fourth photo down on this article, they look like the "three mouseketers" from the cartoon.  Harry's body language is bad, obviously not wanting to be there, and the other two don't look as though they have a brain cell between them  -  maybe discussing who should have the one brain cell left  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 16, 2014, 04:37:39 pm
Oh dear, a comment from this article

birdgirl, Blackpool, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago
We want to strip the palace of katydolittle


ReplyNew
ST, London, 59 minutes ago
Yes!!!!!!!



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Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Vesper on February 16, 2014, 04:43:47 pm
That's hilarious, Katydolittle goes, she should take William with him. After all, he's the one who's responsible for bringing us this gem.



Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Nighthawk on February 16, 2014, 04:49:50 pm
what an idiot, IMO ivory from history should be put on display with a reminder this is what happened to all the elephants our ancestors thought was lovely....killing hundreds of them endangered them so in turn all ivory artifacts and anything made out of ivory no longer has a price...no longer holds any profitable margin

can't bring dead elephants that it took to make this stuff back to life, so really what's the point of degrading the animal even more by destroying what it was killed for in the first place


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: True Brit on February 16, 2014, 04:50:22 pm
The logical extension of this argument (and some have already raised this) is that the RF should also give back all the diamonds, gold and other priceless items that have blood and human exploitation on them.

The law of unintended consequences. William clearly doesn't think the whole thing through does he?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Alexandrine on February 16, 2014, 04:54:27 pm
  Seriously, are they all mentally challenged in that family. They sound like a load of loons together without a brain cell between them.


That's the best description of these bunch that I've ever read.  :laugh:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Vesper on February 16, 2014, 04:55:55 pm
^^Exactly. He has no world view beyond his over privilege existence. You can't change the past, but you can take steps towards a new future, which giving up hunting would be more effective in exhibiting his commitment. But stupid is as stupid does.



Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Polonia on February 16, 2014, 05:43:57 pm
William in Savonarola mood!!! And we all know what happened to Savonarola!!!

This is ridiculous as it means pointlessly destroying beautiful and rare artwork.

However, many elephants die natural deaths or accidental deaths and I see no difference from taking organs from dead humans for transplants and taking ivory from elephants who have died naturally to use for art works.

Also, and perhaps I have got this wrong, so please correct me - isn't the Chinese market for ivory more to do with potions to combat impotence etc rather than art?

There are ways of doing these things sensibly - for example, Guillaume and Stephanie of Luxembourg had their wedding rings made from Fair Trade gold. But small imaginative gestures like this would be beyond the headline hogging self-loving William!!!


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 16, 2014, 06:42:17 pm
William in Savonarola mood!!! And we all know what happened to Savonarola!!!

This is ridiculous as it means pointlessly destroying beautiful and rare artwork.

However, many elephants die natural deaths or accidental deaths and I see no difference from taking organs from dead humans for transplants and taking ivory from elephants who have died naturally to use for art works.

Also, and perhaps I have got this wrong, so please correct me - isn't the Chinese market for ivory more to do with potions to combat impotence etc rather than art?

There are ways of doing these things sensibly - for example, Guillaume and Stephanie of Luxembourg had their wedding rings made from Fair Trade gold. But small imaginative gestures like this would be beyond the headline hogging self-loving William!!!

The Asian market is more concerned with Rhino horn for their potions. Get rid of this superstition and you get rid of the market


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: cate1949 on February 16, 2014, 06:51:45 pm
Savonarola!  brilliant!

In the US - I think this is a sensible approach - ivory that is illegal is not permitted to be brought into the country - if you own illegal ivory you cannot sell it and it is confiscated.  But - ancient Ivory or even whale bone and other artifacts from what are now illegally hunted animals but were in the past legal to hunt - these items (scrimshaw being an example)
can be owned, and sold under special circumstances and displayed in museums etc.  But they must have historic or artistic value.

To destroy works of art that were made when the Ivory trade was legal is wrong IMHO -  now is what we must concentrate on - not a long ago past. 


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2014, 07:01:47 pm
William is such a melodramatic drama queen; he's never in control of himself, always swinging all over the place. No wonder no one would have him.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Vesper on February 16, 2014, 07:05:43 pm
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William is such a melodramatic drama queen;

 Yup. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 16, 2014, 07:24:56 pm
William is such a melodramatic drama queen; he's never in control of himself, always swinging all over the place. No wonder no one would have him.

Definitely inherited his mother's genes


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 16, 2014, 08:19:00 pm
Wimpo's actions are an act of rage and violence and are counter productive.
Those gifts were legal to give at the time and also very expensive, costing more then gemstones.
I think it will harm relationships with those countries in a major way when gifts from their former governments are treated this way by Wimpo.
Sergeant Wimpo marching in and destroying works of art at will, like those gifts are nothing more then christal  meth found at some kind of drug house.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: MelissaRose on February 16, 2014, 09:17:19 pm
How ridiculous.  I do not approve of elephant hunting, never have ad never will, and hope it is stopped once and for all, such a waste of the life of a beautiful animal.  But in truth to remove the ivory and destroy it is rather like shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted. The animal has been killed, the ivory is beautiful, if it can't be admired then the poor soul truly lost his life for nothing.  If by destroying the ivory you could return life to the deceased elephant then I would be the first to support it, but that is wanting the impossible.  Seriously, are they all mentally challenged in that family. They sound like a load of loons together without a brain cell between them.

No mention then of ceasing to kill UK wildlife, endangered or otherwise.  No, thought not.  Hope they all choke on their next meal of game pie.

Well said, I feel very strongly about poaching elephants but to destroy these historical artefacts and antiques would be a travesty. Wimpo's heart is in the right place regarding this issue but he's going the wrong way about it. If he doesn't want them why not donate to a museum?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 16, 2014, 09:23:13 pm
Wimpo's actions are an act of rage and violence and are counter productive.
Those gifts were legal to give at the time and also very expensive, costing more then gemstones.
I think it will harm relationships with those countries in a major way when gifts from their former governments are treated this way by Wimpo.
Sergeant Wimpo marching in and destroying works of art at will, like those gifts are nothing more then christal  meth found at some kind of drug house.

Sends shudders down my spine, almost dictator like.....watch out for your heads all that are posting on here



Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 16, 2014, 11:11:12 pm
How ridiculous.  I do not approve of elephant hunting, never have ad never will, and hope it is stopped once and for all, such a waste of the life of a beautiful animal.  But in truth to remove the ivory and destroy it is rather like shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted. The animal has been killed, the ivory is beautiful, if it can't be admired then the poor soul truly lost his life for nothing.  If by destroying the ivory you could return life to the deceased elephant then I would be the first to support it, but that is wanting the impossible.  Seriously, are they all mentally challenged in that family. They sound like a load of loons together without a brain cell between them.

No mention then of ceasing to kill UK wildlife, endangered or otherwise. No, thought not. Hope they all choke on their next meal of game pie.
Well said, I feel very strongly about poaching elephants but to destroy these historical artefacts and antiques would be a travesty. Wimpo's heart is in the right place regarding this issue but he's going the wrong way about it. If he doesn't want them why not donate to a museum?

They aren't even his to give away; they are supposed to belong to the nation!

These gifts were given to Sovereigns because the Sovereign represented the nation and were expected to be kept for the sake of the nation. If William goes on a rampage against all those priceless treasures, he will be spitefully be taking a wrecking ball to past kindnesses and expressions of admiration towards Britain as a nation.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: One of the Peasants on February 16, 2014, 11:22:48 pm
It is almost if Bill had put on his best ponytails and skipping down a dark hallway somewhere said, "Oh I know what I can do, I will just go and find everything made of ivory and destroy it.  Aren't I such a conscientious soul, I love wildlife so much, I know people will love me."  Never mind the fact he spent more time at that conference than he did putting up sandbags.  Never mind we have not seen him with his own "kid" since that creepy Christening, never mind he is supposed to be studying farming, because we all know he wants to be Farmer Ted err, Bill.  Never mind, that he had to drag his bro with him because he can't attract a crowd, because a person with a dark spirit repels people.  Never mind that he seems to have more affection with anything not related to Britain than that which is.   :bat: :bat: :bat: :bat: :bat:  No Bill don't mind the good people of Britain, you just keep focusing on yourself and what makes you happy and what you want, because hey, it really is all about you.  Not!!!!!!!


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Val on February 16, 2014, 11:25:39 pm
Has he given his course up - I thought it was 10 weeks?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: One of the Peasants on February 16, 2014, 11:27:12 pm
Exactly Val and this would be week 6-7  :dontknow: :dontknow: 


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Freya on February 17, 2014, 01:04:22 am
I don't see what it will achieve if he could get rid of it (which he can't because it does not belong to him). The new ivory cannot be sold in the UK. It has to be before a certain date before it can be sold and there has to be evidence  of the date in the provenance of the item.

The recent ivory ends up in China. That is where the problem is. I doubt that the Chinese will stop using ivory or Rhino horn just because of William's actions.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 17, 2014, 09:38:04 am
Some criticism from an art expert re this ridiculous idea of wimpo.

http://katemiddletonreview.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/is-prince-william-getting-a-little-hitler-ish-with-his-desire-to-destroy-all-ivory-art-in-the-royal-collection/


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Snowdrop on February 17, 2014, 10:41:04 am
Some criticism from an art expert re this ridiculous idea of wimpo.

http://katemiddletonreview.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/is-prince-william-getting-a-little-hitler-ish-with-his-desire-to-destroy-all-ivory-art-in-the-royal-collection/

There's only one comment on here so far but it is rather amusing!!

"ha ha! He has destroyed his life by marrying lazykins, now he wants to destroy everything he can think of, lazykins is drving him psycho!"


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: empirestate on February 17, 2014, 11:00:08 am
Wimpo's actions are an act of rage and violence and are counter productive.
Those gifts were legal to give at the time and also very expensive, costing more then gemstones.
I think it will harm relationships with those countries in a major way when gifts from their former governments are treated this way by Wimpo.
Sergeant Wimpo marching in and destroying works of art at will, like those gifts are nothing more then christal  meth found at some kind of drug house.

No, an act of rage is generally a spur of the moment. This is far worse, this is something he thought about. He didn't come to a logical conclusion but he thought about it and then acted upon it. Way worse than impulse cause that can be excused, this is him patting himself on the back for his own "genius".

Exactly Val and this would be week 6-7  :dontknow: :dontknow: 

It's half term.
My fiancée is currently off for the week from her course.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 17, 2014, 11:22:28 am
Wimpo's actions are an act of rage and violence and are counter productive.
Those gifts were legal to give at the time and also very expensive, costing more then gemstones.
I think it will harm relationships with those countries in a major way when gifts from their former governments are treated this way by Wimpo.
Sergeant Wimpo marching in and destroying works of art at will, like those gifts are nothing more then christal  meth found at some kind of drug house.

No, an act of rage is generally a spur of the moment. This is far worse, this is something he thought about. He didn't come to a logical conclusion but he thought about it and then acted upon it. Way worse than impulse cause that can be excused, this is him patting himself on the back for his own "genius".

Exactly Val and this would be week 6-7  :dontknow: :dontknow: 

It's half term.
My fiancée is currently off for the week from her course.

But last week wasn't half term and he was certainly not attending lectures on at least two days last week.

During my time at two different uni's (7 years in total) we dint have 'half term' it was business as usual. Bank hols included. Used to cause me problems with child care. My 3 young children had to attend lectures with me


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: True Brit on February 17, 2014, 11:39:16 am
I don't think Cambridge University has half term holidays as their terms are based on ancient statutes. They have something called Division of Term which is a date marking the half way point but it has no practical application. They have Michaelmas, Lent and Easter terms in accordance with their medieval roots. Cambridge students also start later and finish earlier than the red brick and other universities.

Any 'tailor-made' course would follow these same principles and in any case a grown up professional course for adults wouldn't have half term holidays which are intended for full time students to take a well earned break.

http://www.cam.ac.uk/about-the-university/term-dates-and-calendars


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 17, 2014, 11:45:11 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560871/Crackshot-Harry-buffalo-killer-Picture-emerges-princes-call-protect-wildlife.html :ick: :ick: :stop:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: empirestate on February 17, 2014, 11:49:29 am
^^ Interesting.
Do we know how many days per week he's supposed to be attending lectures? Is this gonna be like his military career? Minimal time and effort?

^ Good Lord, that second picture. They look like a trio of junkies in the process of nodding off.
Didn't take the mail long to find something juicy did it?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 17, 2014, 11:52:55 am
^
They look every inch like the petulant no brain narcissists that they are.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Spitfire on February 17, 2014, 12:02:48 pm

The Dissolution of the Ivories....



Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: True Brit on February 17, 2014, 01:31:57 pm
^  :laugh:  :thankyou:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Snowpea on February 17, 2014, 02:59:39 pm
Destroy history just so he can get into Jecca's pants?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 17, 2014, 03:02:22 pm
About sums it us Snowpea   :sigh:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Vesper on February 17, 2014, 03:10:03 pm
If that's what he's using to get in her pants, then he's just not that imaginative.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Snowdrop on February 17, 2014, 03:35:04 pm
If that's what he's using to get in her pants, then he's just not that imaginative.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Snokitty on February 17, 2014, 03:51:35 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560871/Crackshot-Harry-buffalo-killer-Picture-emerges-princes-call-protect-wildlife.html :ick: :ick: :stop:

I see they are all three wearing their sad and concerned faces. Their own country is in such need and their concern is for wild animals on another continent.   :-


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: cate1949 on February 17, 2014, 04:16:49 pm
it is disturbing he can't distinguish between legitimate issues versus fake ones - as well as distinguish between what his Granny owns versus what the people own - the ancient ivories in the BP collection are works of art - and he doesn't own them - they are part of the "Crown's" collection - ergo - the British people.  He is such a melodramatic person -= doesn't think at all.  Wonder if he figures its okay to replace the elephant ivory with the tusks of those boars he was shooting in Spain last weekend.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Vesper on February 17, 2014, 04:17:52 pm
^^ :hi: Snokitty, it's so good to see you posting again. :hello:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Queen of the Hill on February 17, 2014, 04:27:17 pm
Just hoped over to the article.  Jeepers, the comments are so scathing.  If he was hoping to get a pat on the head and told what a good and clever boy he is then he failed, MISERABLY. Bet he wishes that article was never released, he is taking a right bashing.   The press and the public are definitely on the turn, big time.  Sorry to say his killing spree last weekend will haunt him for ever, for more reasons than one.

Meant to say, love the fourth photo down on this article, they look like the "three mouseketers" from the cartoon.  Harry's body language is bad, obviously not wanting to be there, and the other two don't look as though they have a brain cell between them  -  maybe discussing who should have the one brain cell left  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The most interesting thing in this picture is that apparently Prince Charles has more hair than his son Prince William  :tehe:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: empirestate on February 17, 2014, 07:48:28 pm
^ Cut the guy a break. He's no longer able to run his fingers through his hair and say, "Hey, wanna f--- a future King?" Well he could but I believe it's the height of bad manners to shed on the person your flirting with.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: empirestate on February 17, 2014, 08:39:10 pm
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Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Queen of the Hill on February 17, 2014, 08:43:33 pm
^ :laugh: :laugh:  rofl lols Hahahaha...


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 18, 2014, 10:32:43 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561656/From-maharajahs-throne-George-IVs-duelling-sword-treasures-risk-Williams-mission-destroy-royal-ivory-critics-bonkers.html
Wimpo is officially bonkers.
Better call that white van with nice gentlemen who just want to go for a walk. :nervous:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 18, 2014, 11:37:57 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561656/From-maharajahs-throne-George-IVs-duelling-sword-treasures-risk-Williams-mission-destroy-royal-ivory-critics-bonkers.html
Wimpo is officially bonkers.
Better call that white van with nice gentlemen who just want to go for a walk. :nervous:

More like Diana everyday. What we are seeing IS Diana's legacy.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: rainbow on February 18, 2014, 01:42:48 pm
How very astute of you Debbie  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 18, 2014, 01:51:41 pm
Quote from: rainbow  flower flower :flower:link=topic=7311.msg243422#msg243422 date=1392730968
How very astute of you Debbie  :thumbsup:

Thank you  :flower:

I think that what I'm going to say now really belongs on the thread specifically created for the comparison between Diana and her son.

Diana was also known to be a skilled liar, so much so that it got her into trouble many times as a child. Does everyone not remember how she swore that she was not involved with writing 'Diana, her true story'? Willy and Waity are known for their *um um* distortion of the truth? As I said, we ARE seeing Diana's legacy in Willy, but not the legacy everyone hoped to see. He has her faults but without that vulnerability that made everyone love/forgive her


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Alexandrine on February 18, 2014, 03:48:04 pm
The Republic guys at twitter I think have mentioned something that it is also interesting. The palace treasure is also owned by the country not by the royal family. He has no power to decide on what it is done with them.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 18, 2014, 06:29:47 pm
I don't think the fact that it belongs to the nation really matters to William; he is having his 'mission moment' and he's hopefully going to be stopped from any actual act of complete madness.

BRIAN SEWELL: Prince William's plan to destroy the royal ivory is vandalism that'll put elephants in MORE peril

    Destroying royal ivory will not save a single elephant
    Instead it will simply raise the price and demand for the product
    Instead foreign ruling classes should be targeted


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2561679/BRIAN-SEWELL-Prince-Williams-plan-destroy-royal-ivory-vandalism-thatll-elephants-MORE-peril.html#

From a maharajah's throne to George IV's duelling sword, the treasures at risk: William's mission to destroy royal ivory as critics describe it as 'bonkers'

    Prince William has vowed to destroy the collection of royal ivory
    Queen currently holds 1,200 pieces of ivory in Royal Collection
    However, she does not own it, but holds it in trust for the nation
    Experts have described William's plan as 'incomprehensible'
    They say destroying treasures will put elephants in more danger


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561656/From-maharajahs-throne-George-IVs-duelling-sword-treasures-risk-Williams-mission-destroy-royal-ivory-critics-bonkers.html

Any bets that William actually DOES try to end up pulling something?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 18, 2014, 07:10:34 pm
^If he knows whats good for him he better stay in his slow lane.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 18, 2014, 07:10:40 pm
I don't think the fact that it belongs to the nation really matters to William; he is having his 'mission moment' and he's hopefully going to be stopped from any actual act of complete madness.

BRIAN SEWELL: Prince William's plan to destroy the royal ivory is vandalism that'll put elephants in MORE peril

    Destroying royal ivory will not save a single elephant
    Instead it will simply raise the price and demand for the product
    Instead foreign ruling classes should be targeted


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2561679/BRIAN-SEWELL-Prince-Williams-plan-destroy-royal-ivory-vandalism-thatll-elephants-MORE-peril.html#

From a maharajah's throne to George IV's duelling sword, the treasures at risk: William's mission to destroy royal ivory as critics describe it as 'bonkers'

    Prince William has vowed to destroy the collection of royal ivory
    Queen currently holds 1,200 pieces of ivory in Royal Collection
    However, she does not own it, but holds it in trust for the nation
    Experts have described William's plan as 'incomprehensible'
    They say destroying treasures will put elephants in more danger


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561656/From-maharajahs-throne-George-IVs-duelling-sword-treasures-risk-Williams-mission-destroy-royal-ivory-critics-bonkers.html

Any bets that William actually DOES try to end up pulling something?

Willy has not publicly stated his intention but has supposedly 'mentioned' it


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: MelissaRose on February 18, 2014, 07:31:44 pm
If Wimpo seriously tries this I will go to BP and *female dog*-slap him. Yes the circumstances beyond their creation are horrific, but these are historical antiques which have been around for centuries and destroying them would be a great travesty. In fact as an aspiring curator I find it incredible, I mean that chair is just beautiful (yes it's a shame animals had to lose their lives for it, but destroying it won't bring them back to life). Is he going to go round people's houses next inspecting them for ivory (like the Nazis with books) and have the nation's pianos thrown onto bonfires? Wouldn't put it past him to do something that crazy. This has William written all over it, petulant and selfish. Also as somebody who studied History of Art he should know better.  :bored:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 18, 2014, 07:35:33 pm
If Wimpo seriously tries this I will go to BP and *female dog*-slap him. Yes the circumstances beyond their creation are horrific, but these are historical antiques which have been around for centuries and destroying them would be a great travesty. In fact as an aspiring curator I find it incredible, I mean that chair is just beautiful (yes it's a shame animals had to lose their lives for it, but destroying it won't bring them back to life). Is he going to go round people's houses next inspecting them for ivory (like the Nazis with books) and have the nation's pianos thrown onto bonfires? Wouldn't put it past him to do something that crazy. This has William written all over it, petulant and selfish. Also as somebody who studied History of Art he should know better.  :bored:

He gave up the history of art in his first year. His degree is in geography


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: MelissaRose on February 18, 2014, 08:31:40 pm
Whether he has a degree in it or not isn't the point, he still studied it for two years so should have some comprehension of the significant of antiques. Many who've never read HoA get it, so should he.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: cate1949 on February 18, 2014, 08:38:05 pm
I do not have an art history degree yet I know these are priceless historic and artistic treasures and that it does nothing to stop the illegal ivory trade today to destroy these.  The people who engage in the illegal trade do not care one whit about what happens to the crown collection and destroying it will do nothing to stop these people.  This is idiotic.

It also is probably unnecessary to think he would do it as it seems the whole thing comes from Jane Goddall - she claims he told her he "wished" he coiuld destroy the whole BP collection.  So he is not doing it - and the collection is safe from his overly dramatic stance


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 18, 2014, 08:40:20 pm
Whether he has a degree in it or not isn't the point, he still studied it for two years so should have some comprehension of the significant of antiques. Many who've never read HoA get it, so should he.

I agree with your comment. But look at waity, who has a history of art degree, who asked if Faberge still made eggs. I am a scientist from an old family, who knows about art from my family background. I would never have asked such a question, but then I am not waity, or from her background


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Nighthawk on February 19, 2014, 01:30:55 am
Horrific picture of butchered white rhino backs up Prince William's call to destroy Royal ivory artefacts
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/butchered-white-rhino-video-shot-3160492#ixzz2tj9R4WzQ
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WARNING: Graphic picture may cause distress. Traumatic shot of endangered beast with its tusks stolen by callous poachers

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This horrific picture shows a butchered white rhino left to die by poachers.

The rhino had its horns, tongue, nose and eyes hacked off by the poachers who stalked it in South Africa’s Kruger National Park.

The animal, hunted down in April last year, eventually had to be put down.

The video has now gone viral in wake of Duke of Cambridge Prince William saying 1,200 ivory artefact’s in Buckingham Palace should be destroyed in a message to illegal elephant poachers.

Most poachers in South Africa use the border with Mozambique as an escape route from anti-poaching squads in the reserve.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 19, 2014, 02:50:17 am
If they allow William the madness to destroy artifacts hundreds of years old, the RF will have singly destroyed items that belong to the nation and showed the nation their real feelings about the items donated to Sovereigns in the past. I'm certain that it will also damage relations with other countries almost irreparably.

Whether he has a degree in it or not isn't the point, he still studied it for two years so should have some comprehension of the significant of antiques. Many who've never read HoA get it, so should he.
I agree with your comment. But look at waity, who has a history of art degree, who asked if Faberge still made eggs. I am a scientist from an old family, who knows about art from my family background. I would never have asked such a question, but then I am not waity, or from her background

Maybe Kate was just trying to be witty when she asked that. Kate has no background anyway; it's not like she's interested in it and she's certainly working hard at ending the past she knows she has, much less worry about maintaining her links to her own working class ancestry (something to be proud of really).


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Nighthawk on February 19, 2014, 09:01:32 pm
Royal ivory: Why Prince William is right
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/africa-wild/2014/feb/19/royal-ivory-prince-william-destruction
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Prince William’s announcement that he wants the royal family’s ivory to be destroyed is praiseworthy and shows his personal commitment to do everything he can to help save species threatened by wildlife crime. It is also the right thing to doThis article examines some of the arguments for and against destroying ivory as part of the wider global strategy to save African elephants.

When Kenya became the first country to destroy ivory stockpiles by burning them in 1989, it was a hugely symbolic act that inspired the global ban in ivory trade the following year. This demonstration of commitment by an African nation played a key role in galvanising largely successful efforts to control elephant poaching over the next decade.

Now that elephants are once again threatened, William’s initiative – if carried out – could help focus the world’s attention on the problem in a similar way. The sight of arguably the world’s most famous family destroying its ivory collection would have a tremendous impact.

Two arguments have been made against the idea. The first objection is that it would be wrong to destroy works of art that are of beauty and cultural value. However, in emergency situations, it is often necessary to destroy things of value in order to achieve a more important objective: the surgeon amputates a diseased limb to save the patient; fire fighters cut down trees to contain a forest fire; nature reserve managers cull a species that is threatening the integrity of the ecosystem. Make no mistake: this is also an emergency. Within a few years, African elephants may well be all but extinct in the wild if no effective action is taken
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The second argument is that destroying ivory would not help to save the elephants. This argument has to be taken seriously. The fact is that the complexity of the problem makes it hard to know whether any one action taken to resolve it will have the desired effect or not. Development agencies working to save human populations threatened by war and famine describe these situations as “complex emergencies”. They are complex because war, crime, hunger, disease and many other factors interact with each other in often unpredictable ways. This means that agencies have to take difficult decisions in conditions that are highly uncertain. They cannot always be sure, for example, that aid sent in to feed the hungry will not end up being used to buy arms.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: cate1949 on February 20, 2014, 12:06:59 am
right - guys who are hunting a species to death will really just stop and say - aw - now that you burned all the ivory art works at BP we realize how naughty we have been and we will abandon our billion dollar industry immediately and get regular jobs at minimum wage.  Geez - how stupid are these clowns to think that the only ones who would care - or probably even know - about the ivory collection being destroyed are people WHO DO NOT HUNT ELEPHANTS.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: sandy on February 20, 2014, 12:46:12 am
So Will goes into Super Hero mode and destroys the ivory. The guy has delusions of grandeur.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 20, 2014, 12:48:11 am
Yes William, go on and destroy precious artifacts; it will justify WHY the monarchy must be destroyed and why the RF is the worst thing to happen to Britain. If he begins a systematic destruction of all that priceless ivory, he'll also TICK OFF the museum curators and archeologists and his aristocratic set will be spitting red hot nails in anger.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 20, 2014, 01:50:38 pm
Yes William, go on and destroy precious artifacts; it will justify WHY the monarchy must be destroyed and why the RF is the worst thing to happen to Britain. If he begins a systematic destruction of all that priceless ivory, he'll also TICK OFF the museum curators and archeologists and his aristocratic set will be spitting red hot nails in anger.

Good post Kuei Fei  :flower:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Aquitaine on February 20, 2014, 04:38:45 pm
From DebbieB:

"I agree with your comment. But look at waity, who has a history of art degree, who asked if Faberge still made eggs. I am a scientist from an old family, who knows about art from my family background. I would never have asked such a question, but then I am not waity, or from her background"

I'm from a "lower" background (both economically and socially) than Kate with a state education that was arts-free (save for literature) and I would never have asked that either - it's kind of like asking who painted the Mona Lisa, wrote Hamlet or composed the Fifth Symphony. She's just an idiot.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on February 20, 2014, 04:58:01 pm
Wimpo is an unbelievable thick wit that he can't see art work placed in it's time.
It is only a matter of time before he wants to raid National Heritage looking for paintings.
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/feb/06/manet-olympia-prostitution-courtesan
The great  artists of past centuries used prostitutes as their models so is Wimpo now going to destroy paintings to"unite together and stop prostitution"?
This nutter needs to be stopped.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Nighthawk on February 20, 2014, 05:00:32 pm
 :-


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 20, 2014, 06:37:35 pm
From DebbieB:

"I agree with your comment. But look at waity, who has a history of art degree, who asked if Faberge still made eggs. I am a scientist from an old family, who knows about art from my family background. I would never have asked such a question, but then I am not waity, or from her background"

I'm from a "lower" background (both economically and socially) than Kate with a state education that was arts-free (save for literature) and I would never have asked that either - it's kind of like asking who painted the Mona Lisa, wrote Hamlet or composed the Fifth Symphony. She's just an idiot.

She is absolutely. All this 'expensive' education and she couldn't even get that right. The dons of Marlborough as well as St Andrews must gang their heads in shame.  I'd be horrified to think this dumb *butt* is the product of my education


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: rosielinks on February 20, 2014, 07:40:31 pm
She's no advert for Marlborough.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on February 20, 2014, 07:52:18 pm
She's no advert for Marlborough.

 :flower:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Stephanie on March 15, 2014, 10:07:45 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579658/Princes-call-destroy-royal-ivory-treasures-echo-Nazis-Antiques-Roadshow-expert-blasts-William.html :nervous:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Yooper on March 15, 2014, 11:57:35 am
Another PW knee-jerk reaction instead of a cool-headed and long view approach.  He behaves like an errant teenager when he does rash things such as this.  Did it never occur to him that this accomplishes nothing?  How about a fundraising initiative involving a museum/traveling exhibition and use the proceeds to protect endangered and threatened species instead?  It would bring much-need publicity, preserve the items, and funds.  He's just not plugged in.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Aquitaine on March 15, 2014, 12:39:56 pm
^ Agreed - but it's not as if William (who, let's face, has never had an original thought in his life) was the first person who thought that publicly destroying ivory would somehow "devalue" it and make it less desirable. I posted an article in the Insiders thread that had pictures of the US govt destroying ivory - however that was illegal ivory that was seized and confiscated post-ban, as opposed to being objects of historical, artistic or cultural significance - like William is trying to do. Nevertheless, I would be interested to see what the reasoning behind "devaluing" ivory by publicly destroying it is in the first place - it seems to be in direct conflict with the law of supply/demand for a start. Perhaps somebody with a little more knowledge on conservation/the ivory trade could shed light on this?


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Sparky on March 15, 2014, 07:17:01 pm
Since he cares so much about the animals now he might as well burn all those historical and modern animal items, such as the royal guard bear skin hats, plume hats, furred clothing or items, anything made of whale bone and trophy stuffed animals that his family owns. Oh..... and throw away the guns and release the animals being raised to be shot. To drive the point home he can then turn vegetarian.

I'm sure all the animals that were slaughtered for their parts to be turned into something, especially the ones driven to near extinction and the ones that were wiped out will be grateful for it......   they will surely put in good word for Horse face in animal heaven.  :James:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: DebbieB on March 15, 2014, 09:04:15 pm
Since he cares so much about the animals now he might as well burn all those historical and modern animal items, such as the royal guard bear skin hats, plume hats, furred clothing or items, anything made of whale bone and trophy stuffed animals that his family owns. Oh..... and throw away the guns and release the animals being raised to be shot. To drive the point home he can then turn vegetarian.

I'm sure all the animals that were slaughtered for their parts to be turned into something, especially the ones driven to near extinction and the ones that were wiped out will be grateful for it......   they will surely put in good word for Horse face in animal heaven.  :James:

 :flower:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 15, 2014, 10:12:57 pm
 ^^  Brilliant post Sparky, and so very true.  He has made himself look a complete fool with the ivory being trashed comment, mind you, we already knew he was not quite all the ticket, hunting/killing, and with his ex in two, days ahead of a very important conservation symposium.  I do wonder what the others attending really thought of him, bet they were having a good titter behind his back.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Sparky on March 15, 2014, 10:42:56 pm
Thanks everyone  :flower:

I think his over reaction is a desperate attempt to cover up his hypocrisy and to show the world he is serious. It still back fired.  :tehe:

^^  Brilliant post Sparky, and so very true.  He has made himself look a complete fool with the ivory being trashed comment, mind you, we already knew he was not quite all the ticket, hunting/killing, and with his ex in two, days ahead of a very important conservation symposium. I do wonder what the others attending really thought of him, bet they were having a good titter behind his back.

To quote the movie Ever After: "I'm only here for the food."


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: MOSAIC on March 16, 2014, 04:25:08 pm

Wimpo is as usual trying to score brownie points.  He isn't taken seriously in other ways, so he
thinks this will win people over.  WRONG AGAIN Wimpo.  Just give up why don't you.  You're a joke.
 :flower:


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: MOSAIC on March 16, 2014, 04:41:25 pm

Sorry to double post.   Well said Sparky.  He needn't stop there, there's all the coronation robes and ermine edged cloaks
he can get his mitts on.  He could get rid of them as well.  Then in the unlikely event that he ever reaches HIS
coronation all the robes will be edged with something other than ermine, nylon maybe?  What a fool.
In a way its poetic justice that the last of the Windsor line shows what a twit/twerp he is (couldn't make up my mind).


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 16, 2014, 05:03:26 pm
 lol  Twit or twerp, how about a good mix of both.  If he actually had a brain he would be dangerous.  If he only knew just how ridiculous he sounded, especially as it doesn't even belong to him, or granny, it belong to the UK.  There again, he doesn't like British does he, can't even employ a British nanny, buys/leases foreign motors, probably imports his food in from Africa as he seems so keen on the place.  You have to laugh don't you.  A supposed future British king and he prefers to buy/hire foreign.  Nothing more to be said really.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Freya on March 16, 2014, 06:40:23 pm
I am not a fan of Kate but I can understand her Faberge egg question because they do still make eggs. Not the sort that are in the Queen's collection as they are unique, but egg pendants.

 http://www.faberge.com/images/thumbs/0011680_960.jpeg

They are still in operation but it is the Faberge that was made in Imperialist Russia that has the really high value


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Yooper on March 16, 2014, 07:28:55 pm
Excellent post, Sparky.  You hit the overall picture perfectly.   :thumbsup:

You know what I would like to become extinct?  Reading in print that "William WANTS".  It's gettin' old, Willy Boy.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Fly on the wall on May 11, 2014, 03:41:13 am
Prince Charles and 'naive' Prince William in row over palace ivory
Prince Charles is said to have branded son William “naive” for suggesting ­Buckingham Palace should destroy its ­priceless ivory collection.

Royal insiders say the pair have had a “frank exchange of words”.

Charles is said to have rebuked Wills, 31, after he reportedly told a zoologist he would “like to see all the ivory owned by ­Buckingham Palace destroyed”.

A source said: “William was left in no doubt he should have chosen his words more carefully. Charles thought the remarks were somewhat naive and stupid when you consider the vast collection of ivory held at the Palace.

“He seems to believe there is a vast difference between rightly calling for action against illegal traders and to call for Buckingham Palace to rid itself of an ­enormously important and historical collection of artifacts.

“It was a typical father and son encounter really, with Charles trying to use his greater experience to try to educate his son.”

Wills is said to have told chimpanzee expert Dr Jane Goodall, 79, he wanted to rid Buckingham Palace of ivory at the London summit in February on the illegal wildlife trade. Charles, 65, and Prince Harry, 29, also attended. Charles said in a film at the time: “We have come together, as father and son, to lend our voices to the growing global effort to combat the illegal wildlife trade.”

Much of William’s campaigning has focused on the African elephant yet Charles recognises the importance of the palace ivory collection, which includes a throne that belonged to Queen Victoria.

The two are said to have traded words before Wills and his family went on a state visit to Australia. But a Palace source denied the disagreement had been heated, adding: “They have not fallen out.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-naive-prince-william-3524699?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed



Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Nighthawk on May 11, 2014, 03:51:50 am
see the press has nothing better to write about....writers must be bored to tears


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Mandosiel on May 11, 2014, 03:55:45 am
I knew something like this would eventually come out, good on Charles for putting the naive little dunderhead in his place.


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: Freya on May 11, 2014, 07:43:08 am
There is a view that by giving a value to these items perpetuates the ivory trade. The other side of the coin is that these items are antique and the like of and craftsmen would never be seen again if they were destroyed.

If I was in their position I would give the ivory museum status and put it on show in a property that is opened to the public.

I think that you have got to say this is what happened years ago but we don't do this now. By giving it museum status would do that. They could also loan some of it to a museum.


Title: William's column in the Huffington Post
Post by: Countess of Holland on December 08, 2014, 08:28:45 pm
His handlers know how to write a column because I don't for a moment believe Mr 'I forgot to ask if it was a boy or a girl' wrote this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/prince-william-the-duke-of-cambridge/why-we-need-a-truly-international-approach_b_6287824.html


Title: Re: William wants to raid HM's palace looking for ivory
Post by: sandy on December 08, 2014, 11:34:32 pm
Prince Charles and 'naive' Prince William in row over palace ivory
Prince Charles is said to have branded son William “naive” for suggesting ­Buckingham Palace should destroy its ­priceless ivory collection.

Royal insiders say the pair have had a “frank exchange of words”.

Charles is said to have rebuked Wills, 31, after he reportedly told a zoologist he would “like to see all the ivory owned by ­Buckingham Palace destroyed”.

A source said: “William was left in no doubt he should have chosen his words more carefully. Charles thought the remarks were somewhat naive and stupid when you consider the vast collection of ivory held at the Palace.

“He seems to believe there is a vast difference between rightly calling for action against illegal traders and to call for Buckingham Palace to rid itself of an ­enormously important and historical collection of artifacts.

“It was a typical father and son encounter really, with Charles trying to use his greater experience to try to educate his son.”

Wills is said to have told chimpanzee expert Dr Jane Goodall, 79, he wanted to rid Buckingham Palace of ivory at the London summit in February on the illegal wildlife trade. Charles, 65, and Prince Harry, 29, also attended. Charles said in a film at the time: “We have come together, as father and son, to lend our voices to the growing global effort to combat the illegal wildlife trade.”

Much of William’s campaigning has focused on the African elephant yet Charles recognises the importance of the palace ivory collection, which includes a throne that belonged to Queen Victoria.

The two are said to have traded words before Wills and his family went on a state visit to Australia. But a Palace source denied the disagreement had been heated, adding: “They have not fallen out.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-naive-prince-william-3524699?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed



It would be great if Charles stopped hunting (he is not exactly a friend to animals either). Better for Wills to have just gone to NY instead of posing as someone "committed" to conservation.

william was just saying empty words just to show off. He does not think before he talks.

Charles had a happy families photo with William, Harry and Camilla after this. So I don't think there is any animosity.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mandosiel on December 09, 2014, 02:27:13 am
I'm not so sure on the part of them not falling out, ever since them Charles' clothing allowance to Kate is tiny and barely see him aMs William together unless they have to, actions speak louder than words imo.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2014, 02:54:06 am
Prince Charles and 'naive' Prince William in row over palace ivory
Prince Charles is said to have branded son William “naive” for suggesting ­Buckingham Palace should destroy its ­priceless ivory collection.

Royal insiders say the pair have had a “frank exchange of words”.

Charles is said to have rebuked Wills, 31, after he reportedly told a zoologist he would “like to see all the ivory owned by ­Buckingham Palace destroyed”.

A source said: “William was left in no doubt he should have chosen his words more carefully. Charles thought the remarks were somewhat naive and stupid when you consider the vast collection of ivory held at the Palace.

“He seems to believe there is a vast difference between rightly calling for action against illegal traders and to call for Buckingham Palace to rid itself of an ­enormously important and historical collection of artifacts.

“It was a typical father and son encounter really, with Charles trying to use his greater experience to try to educate his son.”

Wills is said to have told chimpanzee expert Dr Jane Goodall, 79, he wanted to rid Buckingham Palace of ivory at the London summit in February on the illegal wildlife trade. Charles, 65, and Prince Harry, 29, also attended. Charles said in a film at the time: “We have come together, as father and son, to lend our voices to the growing global effort to combat the illegal wildlife trade.”

Much of William’s campaigning has focused on the African elephant yet Charles recognises the importance of the palace ivory collection, which includes a throne that belonged to Queen Victoria.

The two are said to have traded words before Wills and his family went on a state visit to Australia. But a Palace source denied the disagreement had been heated, adding: “They have not fallen out.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-charles-naive-prince-william-3524699?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
It would be great if Charles stopped hunting (he is not exactly a friend to animals either). Better for Wills to have just gone to NY instead of posing as someone "committed" to conservation.

william was just saying empty words just to show off. He does not think before he talks.

Charles had a happy families photo with William, Harry and Camilla after this. So I don't think there is any animosity.

Charles is in the right; what's been done has been done and those antiques are legendary works of art. If he burned them, eh would be incinerating history and there is no way that any aristocrats will follow suit. There is no way that the history museums will let him destroy all those artworks and statues and endless ornaments.

Stop now, okay, but I am sure half the reason Kate is aged so badly is that she has to deal with all his drama, all the time. Living with him must be exhausting.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on December 09, 2014, 02:57:15 am
I don't think William is a reasonable sort of person and displays, to me, a scorched earth policy on anything that hits his temper. 


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on December 09, 2014, 11:53:30 am
William was posturing. He is too lazy to even look for the Ivory.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 09, 2014, 01:27:20 pm
Yes, agree, even looking for the ivory would involve the "w" word = work.  One thing to stand there and spout off to the world about conserving wildlife, knowing full well he will be back to the UK soon and blasting poor innocent birds out of the sky, quite another to put himself out to look for the ivory, and then there would be the fact that chucky and granny would have a lot to say about him not getting rid of it, and in truth it is not his to get rid of.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2014, 06:47:10 pm
in truth it is not his to get rid of.

Exactly; he doesn't own it and it belongs to the museum, held in trust for the nation.

Just like his role in regards to the palaces and the other lands, but for some reason he can't be bothered.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 17, 2014, 08:57:37 pm
Ivory and rhino horn in Queen's Sandringham 'trophy room' may be removed from display
Buckingham Palace says hunting trophies will be removed if there is any doubt whether they comply with EU regulations on endangered species
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/11300027/Ivory-and-rhino-horn-in-Queens-Sandringham-trophy-room-may-be-removed-from-display.html

The Sun @TheSunNewspaper  ·
Exclusive: Prince William slams hunting, but the Sandringham trophy room is exposed. http://sunpl.us/6012QhKo 
THE Royal Family was caught in a hunting row last night as pictures emerged of a “trophy room” at Sandringham stuffed with the world’s most endangered species.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 17, 2014, 09:55:48 pm
And are we shocked?  Not one bit.  Same old, same old story  -  don´t do as I do, do as I say.  He can bleat as much as he likes, but he will still go and kill for the fun of it. Bit of a waste of time preaching in my view if you don´t practice what you preach.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mandosiel on December 17, 2014, 10:37:19 pm
Would prefer to slam William, he deserves it for being such an almighty hypocrite.


Title: Re: William to take up the cause of rhinos
Post by: Snowpea on December 17, 2014, 11:00:25 pm
in my estimation animal conservation is a worthwhile cause - I do not think it should be his only cause - but it is appropriate for him to be involved in this.



It is important in my estimation, as well. We have to save this fricking planet and respect all it's life forms.  :thumbsup: His problem is that he doesn't seem to care about anything else.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: cate1949 on December 18, 2014, 02:38:51 am
the trophy room at sandringham is part of the house tour so it was not exactly a "secret" room so why the fuss now?

Maybe the tabs instead of finding excuses to chew at the Royals could do some exposes about illegal trade in poached animal parts?

That said - it must be ghastly to see those animals perched on the walls as trophies.  People do such barbaric things.

I think Will is wrong about destroying the carved ivory art but the trophies of animals probably should be removed although maybe there is some value is displaying them as a kind of warning against this sort of thing?  Not sure.



Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mandosiel on December 18, 2014, 02:46:34 am
I know one thing, let him keep slamming his family and see how fast they don't end up dropping him.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 18, 2014, 04:45:05 am
Slaughter by Royal appointment: As Prince William campaigns to save endangered species, a rather embarrassing reminder that most of his relatives had a somewhat different approach

Writing to her father-in-law George V from a safari in Africa, the Duchess of York — the future Queen Mother — gave a gripping account of the excitement of the kill.

‘I took to shooting with a rifle, which I hope you won’t dislike me for,’ she wrote. ‘But really there was nothing else to do, and I enjoyed it so much, and became very bloodthirsty.

‘First of all I shot birds as big as capercailzie [grouse] for the pot, and then I shot buck, and by great flukes managed to kill and not wound, and then I shot a rhinoceros, which nearly broke my heart.’


The carnage was far from over. In another missive to her life-long friend Francis D’Arcy Osborne, the Duke of Leeds, she noted: ‘Saw thousands of zebra — I shot two dead, with two shots for lion kills. Hated doing it.’
Almost 90 years ago, in 1924, the demure newly married duchess and her husband Bertie, who was to become King George VI little more than a decade later, embarked by ship on the start of a meticulously planned four-month trip to the East African plains — though ‘killing fields’ might have been a more appropriate description.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2878309/As-Prince-William-campaigns-save-endangered-species-relatives-different-approach.html#newcomment


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Countess of Holland on December 18, 2014, 10:07:46 am
A friend of mine sent me a link to a charity and I immediately had to think about Prince William:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/anti-poaching-helicopter

William could have coughed up the 350K USD without blinking, but I guess that would have been a little 'too hands on' for Willy.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on December 18, 2014, 04:35:15 pm
Slaughter by Royal appointment: As Prince William campaigns to save endangered species, a rather embarrassing reminder that most of his relatives had a somewhat different approach

Writing to her father-in-law George V from a safari in Africa, the Duchess of York — the future Queen Mother — gave a gripping account of the excitement of the kill.

‘I took to shooting with a rifle, which I hope you won’t dislike me for,’ she wrote. ‘But really there was nothing else to do, and I enjoyed it so much, and became very bloodthirsty.

‘First of all I shot birds as big as capercailzie [grouse] for the pot, and then I shot buck, and by great flukes managed to kill and not wound, and then I shot a rhinoceros, which nearly broke my heart.’


The carnage was far from over. In another missive to her life-long friend Francis D’Arcy Osborne, the Duke of Leeds, she noted: ‘Saw thousands of zebra — I shot two dead, with two shots for lion kills. Hated doing it.’
Almost 90 years ago, in 1924, the demure newly married duchess and her husband Bertie, who was to become King George VI little more than a decade later, embarked by ship on the start of a meticulously planned four-month trip to the East African plains — though ‘killing fields’ might have been a more appropriate description.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2878309/As-Prince-William-campaigns-save-endangered-species-relatives-different-approach.html#newcomment


this article is a joke. Will and Charles hunt and enjoy hunting just as much as their predecessors. What hypocrites. And when their predecessors  hunted there was a healthy population--thanks to them these same animals are endangered. Maybe in a few generations those unfortunate animals and birds that Will and Charles shoot for pleasure will be endangered too.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 30, 2014, 12:50:29 pm
Found this on FB, am assuming in the last couple of years. Released on FB by the Animal Liberation Press Office,  All very well conserving rhinos, but I am sure there were leads of them before peopled hunted them to near extenction, same applies to any animals.  Such a hypocrite that wimpo, he really is. Don´t do as I do, do as I say  -  typical of that petulant little numbskull.

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10885236_811735968913081_5335651991512368838_n.jpg?oh=d1c1ac25f13ea0cdcb93816df5fbde97&oe=552BD9F4


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on December 30, 2014, 12:51:37 pm
Total hypocrites - no wonder they aren't posted in the main media


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 07, 2015, 02:19:26 pm
Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal
The Duke has accepted an October invitation to talk on Chinese TV about the urgent need to protect wildlife.


Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal
He'll speak to an audience of millions of Chinese people of his generation on this important issue through 'Let's Talk' on CCTV1.


The Duke of Cambridge to deliver a speech on the illegal wildlife trade on Chinese television
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/media/press-releases/the-duke-of-cambridge-deliver-speech-the-illegal-wildlife-trade-chinese


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on September 07, 2015, 02:34:08 pm
Will that include telling them how to hunt at Balmoral, Spain and the various other places he goes for hunting weekends?  Thought not. What a total hypocrite  -  wild life is wild life, there should be no distinction.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on September 11, 2015, 05:37:27 pm
Maybe he should just sit in helicopters and talk to his bodyguard instead of the hypocrisy.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on September 11, 2015, 11:19:17 pm
^From the look of those glasses of his, I think he should only be in charge of packing lunch (Ma Kettle can do it for him) for those who are the doctors and just let them do their job.

As for illegal wildlife and his cause here, I get it that he's looking at this from an endangered special pov but how he maneuvers that into killing animals himself remains a mystery to me.  I've never been able to shoot anything to kill it except my dying dog (worst night ever).  It takes a true sportsman/woman to be able to take on the full-time animal activist/hunter stance and do it with strong conviction and I don't get that vibe from him.  But, then, I don't get a real manly vibe from him at all but could always be wrong.  Doubt it!


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on September 12, 2015, 08:01:17 am
I have no problem with people hunting to feed their families. I know people who hunt pheasants or larger animals to eat or freeze for later. One of these people is a man with a large family and they eat that meat over the course of the year. But hunting for sport and then going around criticizing others for doing the same thing with different animals seems silly.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: meememe on September 12, 2015, 09:38:43 am
My understanding is that all game shot on the royal estates is actually eaten and even guests are sent away with things that they have shot e.g. Christmas guests to Sandringham may leave with some birds ready for the pot.

As for what happens to the animals William and Harry shoot in Spain, or elsewhere, other than Balmoral and Sandringham, I have no idea but I suspect that it is much the same thing - what is shot is eaten. I could be wrong of course.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on September 14, 2015, 09:13:04 am
I guess it's good that it's eaten, but seems odd that he doesn't eat what he hunts... kills way too many animals and then gives the food away? Do they even want the meat or is it forced on them to make him not look bad for wasting the meat? Hmm..


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on September 14, 2015, 03:48:49 pm
I think William sees this as a "fun" activity with whoever blasts the most birds out of the sky "wins."  I doubt he thinks oh well I'm giving food to many many people by offing birds.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on September 14, 2015, 07:03:32 pm
^Totally agree, most of those birds probably don´t get eaten, and it is a "fun sport" for them, nothing more.  If you are into conservation of animals then it should be all animals, not just cherry picking as he does. Also, if the likes of him and his ilk had not been out on killing sprees a lot of animals would not need to be conserved, there would still be plenty of them around.  He can go fox hunting, deer stalking and bird shooting and this is is fun, but he wants to save rhinos and destroy everything ivory in the royal palaces.  The two do not equate in my view.  Also the little matter of his hunting trip in Spain with Jecca, and approx 2 days post his return he, harry and chucky were attending the wildlife conservation symposium held in London.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3091788/Willima-plea-wildlife-plunder.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2554484/Prince-William-flies-shoot-wild-boar-Spain-days-launching-campaign-combat-illegal-hunting.html


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 17, 2015, 10:44:08 pm

Royal patron Prince William is guest of honour at anniversary ball to protect endangered wildlife in Africa

The Duke of Cambridge took to the stage as the guest of honour for the inaugural Tusk Trust conservation ball.

Marking the charity's 25th anniversary, the event saw Prince William give a speech at Syon House, Brentford, West London to highlight their battle against the crisis facing wildlife in Africa.

The Prince has been the royal patron of the UK-based charity since 2005 and is an advocate for Tusk’s pledge to support conservation, education and community development across the continent.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3239071/Royal-patron-Prince-William-guest-honour-anniversary-ball-protect-endangered-wildlife-Africa.html#ixzz3m2DPkZmh
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Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on September 17, 2015, 11:28:28 pm
Waity not there but this seems the MO to split them up to make it look as if they are doing twice as much 'work'.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: kolkomilko on September 18, 2015, 08:02:30 am
Was she there last year? I don't remember it.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on September 18, 2015, 08:12:30 am
Was last years the Taylor Swift one and Waity not there?


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Cali San D on September 18, 2015, 04:00:49 pm
^Taylor Swift was at the Winter Whites Gala benefiting Centrepoint in November of 2013...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2514051/Taylor-Swift-real-life-princess-moment-stunning-gold-white-gown-heads-stars-Winter-Whites-Gala.html

Kate did go to a Tusk Trust event two months prior to the above event...

http://whatkatewore.com/2013/09/12/kate-shimmers-in-sequins-by-jenny-packham-for-tusk-awards-todays-palace-announcements-on-williams-future/


Anyone think it strange that Joss Stone wore a faux animal textured coat to a conservation event?   ???  :-  :o  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on September 19, 2015, 08:56:53 am
^

Word out after both events that willy could barely keep his hands off either of them.  Someone heard to suggest that he should sit on them (his hands!).  Both Taylor Swift and Joss Stone are really beautiful and talented too, a million times better than old careworn, useless Waity, so no surprise there.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 19, 2015, 03:30:08 pm
I feel for Kate in this area; William could have refused to marry her, he could have moved on. Now he's married and should have respect for his wife.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on September 22, 2015, 07:17:18 pm
^Taylor Swift was at the Winter Whites Gala benefiting Centrepoint in November of 2013...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2514051/Taylor-Swift-real-life-princess-moment-stunning-gold-white-gown-heads-stars-Winter-Whites-Gala.html

Kate did go to a Tusk Trust event two months prior to the above event...

http://whatkatewore.com/2013/09/12/kate-shimmers-in-sequins-by-jenny-packham-for-tusk-awards-todays-palace-announcements-on-williams-future/


Anyone think it strange that Joss Stone wore a faux animal textured coat to a conservation event?   ???  :-  :o  :dontknow:

When was the last time william showed up at Centrepoint. He plays the Diana card but neglects her pet charity.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on September 23, 2015, 06:57:06 am
When Diana was mentioned in the past, it used to win him sympathy: a young man who recently lost his mother.

Nowadays, he shoots himself in the foot by using her memory. He neglects her charities and does very few royal appearances compared to what she was doing even at the age of 20. I know he went to uni and she didn't, but he's been out for 10 years now so he has no excuse.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 19, 2015, 05:29:00 pm
Prince William speaks about illegal wildlife trade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Bm4mLns_M



Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on October 19, 2015, 08:34:03 pm
How can he when he hunts and kills himself.

The Chinese must think he is a has a cheek trying to tell them what to do.








 them what to do.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 19, 2015, 10:36:43 pm
Prince William uses prime-time slot live on Chinese TV to plead for an end to the ivory trade - for the sake of George and Charlotte

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3279229/Prince-William-given-prime-time-slot-Chinese-TV-make-direct-plea-end-illegal-wildlife-poaching.html#ixzz3p3HyehR0
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Prince William Says He Fears the Last Rhinos and Elephants Will Die Out Before Princess Charlotte Is 25
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20960633,00.html

Prince William records ivory trade speech as China's President Xi arrives
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34568717


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on October 20, 2015, 12:00:37 am
Bill Medd is looking more and more out of touch by the day...  and I like how he brings G&C into this. First it's the mum card and now it's the babies card. :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 20, 2015, 12:23:15 am
Prince William uses prime-time slot live on Chinese TV to plead for an end to the ivory trade - for the sake of George and Charlotte

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3279229/Prince-William-given-prime-time-slot-Chinese-TV-make-direct-plea-end-illegal-wildlife-poaching.html#ixzz3p3HyehR0
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Prince William Says He Fears the Last Rhinos and Elephants Will Die Out Before Princess Charlotte Is 25
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20395222_20960633,00.html

Prince William records ivory trade speech as China's President Xi arrives
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34568717

Right in time for the visit of the President of China; halfwit.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: meememe on October 20, 2015, 12:40:23 am
That is why it was done now.

The President of China agrees with him that the trade needs to end.

This was not done now to upset the Chinese but with their support.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on October 20, 2015, 01:16:54 am
Well, I think the timing is highly ill-advised unless and only unless it has been sanctioned by the Prime Minister and his Secretary of State on Foreign Affairs/Trade.  There are many political issues on hand here that have absolutely nothing to do with PW's pet project and could, quite possibly, make a fuss where none was needed.  Prince William is not an elected official and should stop acting like one.  Can anyone in their right mind imagine HM doing this?  Well, if you can't, then you don't do it, either. 

Everybody already knows what William's stance is on this and it looks self-serving in addition to hammering against his own father and hope he's received an ok from those who do the actual field work in the real f'ing world.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: sandy on October 20, 2015, 03:28:57 pm
He does sound sanctimonious IMO in those speeches. Talking nobly about how these animals won't be here when Charlotte is 25. Then he goes on a  hunting holiday.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: My2Pence on October 29, 2015, 03:27:52 pm
"Richard Palmer ‏@RoyalReporter Oct 28
Another engagement for Prince William last night: he attended a dinner in aid of Stop Ivory at Scott's, Mount Street, London W1."

Jecca Craig (Baillie?) is on the board of Stop Ivory.




Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: kolkomilko on October 29, 2015, 04:25:53 pm
^ It is interesting. 


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 09, 2015, 07:44:56 pm
United for Wildlife ‏@united4wildlife
@WilliamJHague, who chairs the Taskforce, said "whatever people’s motives, it’s time to stop killing these animals"



Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal
The Duke today convened @united4wildlife's Transport Taskforce on the transportation of banned wildlife products
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVy5jsSWIAA4uSR.jpg

Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal
Today's Taskforce's meeting was the 4th this year between global transport reps, govt agencies & wildlife experts
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVy6ncRWUAEHzHJ.jpg

Chaired by @WilliamJHague, the @united4wildlife Taskforce aims to make transportation of banned wildlife products unviable
The @united4wildlife group will launch commitments in 2016 to break the trafficking chain between the killing field and the marketplace
The poaching crisis remains critical. It requires global cooperation to tackle both the demand and supply of illegal wildlife parts




Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Akasha 85 on December 09, 2015, 08:37:54 pm
*cough* hypocrite*cough*

Sorry had a pheasant feather stuck in my troath.... 8)


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mandosiel on December 10, 2015, 01:58:52 am
 :laugh: @Akasha :worship:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 10, 2015, 01:51:38 pm
And where will he be on Boxing Day  -  out on the royal shoot no doubt.  All these things he wants to do, but who is going to do them, most certainly not him, he can barely string a sentence together and trotting around accompanying cath medd to all these mental health engagements.  No time for EAAA these days, far too busy having fun.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on December 10, 2015, 02:05:43 pm
^^^It's true!  But, also, you're funny.  :laugh:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 14, 2016, 07:51:18 pm
Mark Austin ‏@markaustinitv
First taste of my exclusive interview with Prince William on @ITVEveningNews at 6.30. Much more tomorrow.#stopslaughter


ITV Evening News ‏@ITVEveningNews 2h2 hours ago
'5 to 10 years to save the rhino' Prince William exclusive warning to @markaustinitv @ITVEveningNews #StopSlaughter



Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 15, 2016, 11:56:09 am
We all know about him and conservation  -  only exists when it suits.  Many animals will be extinct if they keep hunting them.

No doubt he did a lot of shooting at Sandringham over the Xmas/New Year period, and many weekend hunting trips throughout the winter.

If you want to conserve animals then do just that, so pick out certain ones and the rest can get blasted to pieces.  Oops, I know why, the rhinos are very dear to the heart of Jecca Craig, silly me, should have remembered that.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 15, 2016, 06:41:24 pm
Prince William brushes off accusations that he's workshy and insists criticism is 'all part of the job' in TV interview


Prince William has dismissed accusations that he is 'work shy', insisting that such criticism is merely 'part of his job' as he launched a new anti-poaching initiative.

Speaking as he unveiled a plan to clamp down on illegal trafficking routes used by poachers around the world, William warned that rhinos and elephants could become extinct within five years if more is not done to protect them.

Revealing his own efforts to have ivory removed from royal palaces, he warned that there would be 'no more of the animals roaming the African plains' by the time Princess Charlotte turns 25 if urgent action is not taken.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3493599/It-s-job-Prince-William-brushes-criticism-s-work-shy-reveals-tried-rid-palaces-ivory.html


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 15, 2016, 08:29:57 pm
Quote
Victoria Murphy ‏@QueenVicMirror
William agreed killing Cecil the lion unforgivable but said there's "a place for commercial hunting in Africa as there is round the world"


Quote
Prince William has dismissed accusations that he is 'work shy', insisting that such criticism is merely 'part of his job' as he launched a new anti-poaching initiative.

But the 33-year-old royal then risked blundering into another row as he admitted supporting so-called ‘trophy hunting’ just moments after unveiling an historic agreement in the battle to stop the sickening international trade in ivory and rhino horn
.

The Duke of Cambridge said in an interview: ‘There is a place for commercial hunting in Africa as there is round the world,’ adding: ‘It’s not to everyone’s cup of tea.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3493599/It-s-job-Prince-William-brushes-criticism-s-work-shy-reveals-tried-rid-palaces-ivory.html’

OF course he would


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Stephanie on March 15, 2016, 09:17:49 pm
Translates as: only the rich like myself can hunt.
Gee, what a surprise after freeloading on the Duke of Westminster's private plane to France.
The DoW is a staunch supporter of commercial hunting. :wopedo:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on March 15, 2016, 10:35:00 pm
Interesting and typical comment on the DM article.

'Palace PR if you are reading the comments and we all know that you are.......tell the arrogant Prince to stop with this nonsense. His position is not guaranteed, the people have the final word. He has been making a fool of himself in the media for months now with his ridiculous wife. He looks foolish all dressed up standing next to real men who work and make a difference to the world. We all know he doesn't have the intelligence or stamina to do a real job - his face says it all. They should both learn to read, speak in an articulate manner and look happy in their 'job'. If they refuse to do this, William should step down and take his dim family with him, and that includes the Middletons'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3493599/It-s-job-Prince-William-brushes-criticism-s-work-shy-reveals-tried-rid-palaces-ivory.html#ixzz430uG3mot
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Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 16, 2016, 12:17:12 am
Prince William: Trophy hunting justified in some circumstances


Prince William has insisted so-called trophy hunting of animals is justified in certain circumstances.

The Duke of Cambridge has faced criticism in the past for going on deer and wild boar hunting trips while making high-profile pleas to stop the illegal wildlife trade.

Speaking exclusively to ITV News, William said commercial hunting - while "not everyone's cup of tea" - could positively impact efforts to save endangered species.

"So when one is infertile, he’s at the end of his life, if somebody out there wants to pay that money - and it wouldn’t be me - but if somebody did, then as long as that money goes back into protection of the species then it is a justifiable means of conserving species that are under serious threat," he told Mark Austin.

http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-15/prince-william-itv-news-poaching-trophy-hunting-rhino-elephant/


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mememe on March 16, 2016, 12:29:41 am
Interesting and typical comment on the DM article.

'Palace PR if you are reading the comments and we all know that you are.......tell the arrogant Prince to stop with this nonsense. His position is not guaranteed, the people have the final word. He has been making a fool of himself in the media for months now with his ridiculous wife. He looks foolish all dressed up standing next to real men who work and make a difference to the world. We all know he doesn't have the intelligence or stamina to do a real job - his face says it all. They should both learn to read, speak in an articulate manner and look happy in their 'job'. If they refuse to do this, William should step down and take his dim family with him, and that includes the Middletons'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3493599/It-s-job-Prince-William-brushes-criticism-s-work-shy-reveals-tried-rid-palaces-ivory.html#ixzz430uG3mot
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and there are many,many more just like it.  All green arrowed as well!



Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on March 16, 2016, 01:15:50 am
"So when one is infertile, he’s at the end of his life, if somebody out there wants to pay that money"

Unintentionally describes himself  :spy:



Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: india on March 16, 2016, 01:39:25 am
 :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Mandosiel on March 16, 2016, 03:44:08 am
Omg is that a video of the interior of their Kensington Apartments? I can see why Charles hated it, all those beiges together look absolutely ghastly!!! :ick:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on March 16, 2016, 06:13:50 am
The top of his head was a bit red & sunburned for someone who supposedly went skiing. It's not like he just has windburn on his face. That line across his his nose looks like he was either wearing sunglasses or swim goggles  bignono

I also noticed the media has been using a lot of old shots of him lately  :bored:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Stephanie on March 16, 2016, 09:59:39 am
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/16/prince-william-criticised-for-justifying-trophy-hunting :egg:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: gingerboy24 on March 27, 2016, 06:38:42 pm
Always putting his hoof in it  lol

The future King of England and current Lord of Loafing – Prince William – has come forwards this past week to pledge his support for both protecting wildlife and sawing their heads off – explaining that “big game hunting is fine, as long as you pay a whopping great packet for the privilege.”

http://www.thehourlyterrier.co.uk/archives/2124


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on March 27, 2016, 11:10:33 pm
^

What a prize idiot.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on June 03, 2016, 04:15:16 am
Prince William on IATA's role in wildlife conservation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=tw&v=ifCYkfWV9YQ


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on June 03, 2016, 04:23:44 pm
^He sounds about as enthusiastic as a teen doing an oral report for science class  :laugh: He will do anything for that Jecca booty. Definitely has a bit of nerve asking the airlines to join his efforts, when he can't even show up for work every month. You know, now that I think about, what if the charity he's donating his EAAA salary to is one of Jecca's, like Tusk or Stop Ivory ? Wouldn't that be a sweet scam, getting the tax payers to fund his "win the girl, save the world" mission ? But he wouldn't do that, right ?  ;)


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Val on June 03, 2016, 04:42:51 pm
^

FODB - you could have hit the nail right on the head.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on November 01, 2016, 05:01:01 pm
Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal 
Don't miss The Duke talking to Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall about the illegal wildlife trade tonight at 9 on BBC 1 #SavingAfricasElephants


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: india on November 01, 2016, 07:12:49 pm
What a total bore.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: LadyLaura on November 01, 2016, 07:31:03 pm
^AND  a hypocrite  :cookie:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: india on November 01, 2016, 11:57:39 pm
^^ You got that right.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 02, 2016, 12:25:19 am
Can't he just give it a rest and get to work? He should be cut off until he does his work for his country and Queen.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on November 02, 2016, 02:59:49 am
^No kidding.  His hypocrisy just stinks this whole thing up.  Join those who are actually working like fiends already on this subject instead of making more PW lofty pronouncements.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 02, 2016, 07:08:37 pm
^He needs to stop with the wildlife crusade period and basically get to duties and appearances at court ceremonial. I am certain that  he should STOP behaving as if he's in his early twenties and he should stop wasting people's time. If I were HM I would be ginned up to the gills because of his antics. He isn't educated in anything really, when you think about it. Just art and he was slipshod at that.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: india on November 03, 2016, 12:11:33 am
And Geography.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: meememe on November 03, 2016, 12:24:44 am
There isn't that much 'court ceremonial' in the UK that anyone other than The Queen does anyway.

They have:

The State Opening of Parliament - The Queen, Philip, Charles and Camilla attend (and it has only been in recent years that Charles has returned to attending after attending until the early 90s and then stopping as the decision was that only The Queen and Philip would attend - not the entire BRF as was the case). Now the monarch and heir and spouses only attend.

Investitures - carried out by The Queen, Charles, William and Anne

Opening of the Scottish Parliament - The Queen and Philip only attend

Opening of the Welsh Assembly - The Queen and the Prince of Wales and spouses attend - again having the Prince of Wales attend is a fairly recent change

Trooping the Colour - the entire family attends

Garter Ceremony - those with the Garter and spouses attend

Thistle Ceremony - those with the Thistle attend

State Visits - The Monarch hosts, the heir greets and other royals as the Queen sees necessary (this year's banquet had The Queen, Philip, Charles, Camilla, The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, The Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra and Tim Laurence - Anne is overseas in Malaysia and Singapore - not even the Michael's of Kent got an invite to the banquet and they usually attend State Banquets as do the Wessexes and Andrew but not this time).

Diplomatic Corps Reception - Most of the family attend, including William and Kate.

When you actually analyse the 'court ceremonial' functions William does attend most of them. You can't expect him to go to the Scottish Opening of Parliament when Charles doesn't even go or start attending the State Opening of Parliament or the Opening of the Welsh Assembly when Charles and Camilla have only started attending those in the last 4 or so years.

Given the small turnout of royals for the State Banquet this year - 8 - there was no need for the Cambridge's to attend - particularly as Charles and Camilla were there.

Most of the 'court ceremonial' is actually done solo by The Queen - the meeting and greeting of new ambassadors, the Privy Council meetings (Charles doesn't attend these so no need for William to do so), the meetings with PM - all done by The Queen unaccompanied. If she wanted some help here she would have Charles step up but she isn't handing over these duties to anyone.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on November 03, 2016, 12:31:16 am
^Off off topic.  YM (http://^Off off topic.  YM)


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on November 03, 2016, 04:47:12 am
Some geography classes are about biodiversity/wildlife, so I guess it's somewhat related.  :dontknow:

But I don't think William is the right person to talk about this cause. He hunts animals for sport. Not the best person who should be going around telling other people which animals they can and cannot kill.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: YooperModerator on November 03, 2016, 02:51:59 pm
^I wasn't directing off topic to you.  No worries. YM


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Sophie on November 03, 2016, 03:20:51 pm
He seems to think he's an authority on everything.  PR and media relations, online bullying and now this.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: CathyJane on November 03, 2016, 08:22:17 pm
You mean he isn't??!! I'm shocked I tell you shocked.  :P


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: leogirl on November 03, 2016, 10:08:47 pm
^^ Of course he does. Look how he was brought up. Everyone constantly telling him how great he is, and covering for him whenever he made a mistake.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: india on November 04, 2016, 12:37:04 am
He is one of the most unintelligent people I have ever seen. And combined with his flawed, weak personality makes a very bad possibility for a future reigning monarch.


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: meememe on November 04, 2016, 04:19:36 am
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Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 03, 2017, 04:22:50 pm
China announces ban on ivory trade by end of 2017
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38470861

Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal 

The Duke of Cambridge, President of @united4wildlife, has welcomed China's announcement to ban all ivory trade:
The Duke said China's decision to ban its domestic ivory trade "could be a turning point in the race to save elephants from extinction.
HRH: "I congratulate the Chinese Government for following through on this important commitment. This battle can be won.
We need all countries to step up to the plate & do their part to end the illegal wildlife trade & save these species before it's too late."


Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 06, 2017, 07:46:15 pm
William's elephant graveyard: Prince's charity to display a haunting archway of 200 elephant tusks in Hampton Court Palace grounds to highlight the horrors of the ivory trade

It's one of Britain’s most prestigious horticultural events – and visitors are used to quietly exploring designer gardens in the genteel grounds of a Royal palace.
Yet this year, the crowds are set for a graphic shock.
To highlight the horrors of the ivory trade, Prince William’s charity Tusk Trust is helping to create a dramatic archway of 200 elephant tusks at the Hampton Court Palace Flower Show in South-West London.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4282446/Prince-William-s-display-highlight-ivory-trade.html#ixzz4aZpTYRL7
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Title: Re: Prince William's Cause Against Illegal Wildlife Trade
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 06, 2017, 07:54:18 pm
China announces ban on ivory trade by end of 2017
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38470861
Kensington Palace ‏@KensingtonRoyal 

The Duke of Cambridge, President of @united4wildlife, has welcomed China's announcement to ban all ivory trade:
The Duke said China's decision to ban its domestic ivory trade "could be a turning point in the race to save elephants from extinction.
HRH: "I congratulate the Chinese Government for following through on this important commitment. This battle can be won.
We need all countries to step up to the plate & do their part to end the illegal wildlife trade & save these species before it's too late."

This sounds patronizing; as if William and the BRF were owed this kind of ruling.