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Title: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on September 03, 2013, 08:46:16 am
I was on Facebook and saw that 35 minutes ago beautiful Princess Madeleine broke the happy news on her page  :bouncy: Here's what she posted:

Chris and I are thrilled to let you know that we are expecting a baby for early March next year. We feel so blessed and can't wait to become parents!

http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aktuellt2013juliseptember/prinsessanmadeleineochherrchristopheroneillvantarbarntheprincesscoupleisexpectingachild.5.4ea495e313c19c119aa9a67.html#.UiWJ9W6ocS4.facebook (http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aktuellt2013juliseptember/prinsessanmadeleineochherrchristopheroneillvantarbarntheprincesscoupleisexpectingachild.5.4ea495e313c19c119aa9a67.html#.UiWJ9W6ocS4.facebook)

 :loveshower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: serene grace on September 03, 2013, 08:50:39 am
http://www.vg.no/rampelys/artikkel.php?artid=10142993.    Congratulations Princess Madeleine ,Pregnant!  :loveshower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on September 03, 2013, 09:00:05 am
Congratulations! A honeymoon baby for Madeleine and Chris ! And a cousin for adorable Estelle :JOY:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on September 03, 2013, 10:16:49 am
congrats to the couple


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Venus De Milo on September 03, 2013, 05:35:11 pm
Congratulations to the couple. :loveshower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: MOSAIC on September 03, 2013, 05:41:15 pm

Thrilled for them both. Congratulations :flower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: sassafras on September 03, 2013, 07:43:15 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2409840/Another-royal-baby-Swedens-Princess-Madeleine-announces-pregnant-new-husband-Christopher-ONeill.html


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HC on September 03, 2013, 08:04:46 pm
Indeed a honeymoonbaby  :flower:

Not a competion, but great news thinking about her former fiancee is also becoming a parent (again).


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: RoyalWatcher on September 03, 2013, 08:20:52 pm
congratulations to the happy couple!

 :bouncy:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Maria on September 04, 2013, 03:48:20 pm
Congratulations!  :goodluck: :stars:


Madeleine deserves all happiness! I think, it´s really unfair that she is often called lazy and a party princess. Madeleine has a fulltime job in New York and represents her country occasionally.
That´s more than many other royals who are direct heirs to European thrones do.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on September 04, 2013, 04:52:33 pm
thank god there are some royals who can keep their legs closed long enough to get married first JMO


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: benign on September 07, 2013, 03:15:57 am
Congratulations :loveshower:  I think she got the best of both worlds and seem pretty happy with her life.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on September 15, 2013, 10:24:41 pm
if this is true I take my hat off to Carl G.

Child(ren) of Princess Madeleine of Sweden to receive a royal title

http://dagtho.blogspot.no/2013/09/children-of-princess-madeleine-of.html



Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: berlin on September 16, 2013, 12:04:30 am
Yes, I really like this idea. Hope it's true.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on September 16, 2013, 11:26:45 pm
Princess Madeleine shows off first signs of burgeoning baby bump
Almost two weeks after the royal palace shared the exciting news that she is pregnant, Princess Madeleine of Sweden is already sporting a burgeoning baby bump.
 
Pictured on Sunday at a dance at a church service at the royal chapel in Stockholm in celebration of her father King Carl Gustaf serving 40 years on the throne, Madeleine showed off the first signs of a growing baby bump in a white two-piece skirt and jacket outfit

The Swedish Princess, whose first child is expected at the start of March next year, teamed her dazzling ensemble with a black clutch bag and high heels. Her sister Princess Victoria also donned white for the occasion, while Princess Estelle was pretty in pink to honour her grandfather.

 http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013091614585/princess-madeleine-baby-bump-king-40/


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snowpea on September 21, 2013, 03:24:25 pm
if this is true I take my hat off to Carl G.

Child(ren) of Princess Madeleine of Sweden to receive a royal title

http://dagtho.blogspot.no/2013/09/children-of-princess-madeleine-of.html



I thought children of a Princess and a commoner were untitled? :easter-sly:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on October 02, 2013, 04:33:01 am
Princess Madeleine and Chris were spotted in New York.

http://onemoreblogaboutroyals.tumblr.com/post/62820074531/princess-madeleine-and-chris-were-spotted-in-new


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 02, 2013, 10:52:52 am
How very thoughtfull of him...smoking in the presence of his pregnant wife.

I dislike this creep more and more I am sorry to say.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: serene grace on October 03, 2013, 12:05:27 am
Is Madeleine trying to catch up with him? Is that woman behind her, with them? I'd *despise* to think of pregnant Madde, fending off NYC traffic, while crossing the street? (I hope they were crossing at a stop light.)  :o


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on November 06, 2013, 12:17:40 pm
Princess Madeleine expecting a baby girl
http://ca.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2013110515490/princess-madeleine-reportedly-expecting-baby-girl/
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Princess Madeleine has confirmed the gender of her and Chris O'Neill's baby. Another little princess will be joining the family – as the pretty royal is due to welcome a little girl next year.

 Swedish royal lifestyle magazine Svensk Damtidning first reported that Madeleine revealed the gender of the new addition to the family while registering for a US baby website to create a baby shower gift list. They said she had also listed February 25 as the due date.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on January 12, 2014, 01:16:04 pm
Swedes take grave offence after Princess Madelaine chooses to have her baby in NY
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537664/Swedish-Princess-baby-New-York.html#ixzz2qBopVVY9
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'Many here at home will probably be disappointed, they want their princess back home in Sweden, as part of the royal family. The fact that Madeleine will give birth abroad cements a distance to her,' said Lundgren.

On the contrary, Lundgren also says there were certain factors such as a difficult pregnancy that might make it hard for the princess to travel home. He called her decision 'purely practical.'

'She has had a tough pregnancy, she missed the Nobel banquette for example, and it is simply more convenient to give birth there than in Sweden,' he said.

According to Swedish lifestyle magazine Svensk Damtidning, the 31-year-old royal and her husband Christopher O'Neill are welcoming a daughter into the world on February 25.

The Princess has yet to confirm the reports herself, but a Swedish Royal Court spokeswoman told Svenskdam.se that the information is indeed true.

The younger sister of Crown Princess Victoria, Madeleine is fourth in line to the Swedish throne. The baby will be fifth in line.



Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on January 12, 2014, 04:44:19 pm
I think the choice is right. The kid will not have a role in the royal family so there is no reason to have it in Sweden.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: rosielinks on January 12, 2014, 04:59:43 pm
ITA. Madeleine's husband is American. If it suits the couple to have the child in New York, really, there is no problem. The baby is half Swedish through his/her mother.

Surely the Swedes have more important things to worry about.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HC on January 12, 2014, 06:01:35 pm
I agree.

Madeleine and her future child is so long from the throne, so there is no need to wait around in Sweeden.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 12, 2014, 08:22:48 pm
I understand there is a Constitutional consequence. Like in many other countries the need for an official to be present at birth has been abandonned, but like in The Netherlands, a newborn child with rights to the throne must be 'presented' to several officials. In The Netherlands that means the PM, the vice-chairman of the Council of State and the chairman of Parliament.
I wonder what will happen in this case...will a Swedish representation travel to NYC?

As for pregnant women not travelling..there is absolutely no medical reason why a healthy* pregnant woman would not be able to fly in her third trimester. It is just that many commercial airliners don't want to get stuck with a woman giving labor on the plane, so they play it safe and say that essentially any woman in her 3rd trimester can no longer fly with their airline.
But I am sure that if needed, Madeleine can always rely on a private government plane.

* This does not include women with high bloodpreasure and things like bloodpoisoning.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: berlin on January 12, 2014, 09:02:02 pm
I applaud Madeleine and Chris for their choice.  The Swedes sounds quite whinny.  However, perhaps it's not the best idea to give their children HRH style.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on January 12, 2014, 09:46:41 pm
^Neither is to maintain the bodyguards and benefits of being a princess. She doesn't do any job for the swedish family anymore. It would be more rational to say that she keeps her rights of succession and attends a couple of events but for the rest she is a private person.

BTW she was in Sweden a month ago or less so not a problem to travel on air...


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on January 12, 2014, 11:22:25 pm
I feel that since Madeleine is a Princess of Sweden she should have her baby in her country....I don't care if her hubby is an American...he should understand that he married someone that represents a country that pays for her life style.....she can continue to live the life of a Princess then she should really start acting like a royal.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: cate1949 on January 12, 2014, 11:39:40 pm
I can understand the way the swedes feel about this - she is a member of their royal family and now it feels like they have lost her.  It would probably help if she does something to reassure the swedish people about her continuing loyalty to them - although the reality is that both she and her children will grow up in the US.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on January 13, 2014, 12:37:04 am
She reminds me of Harald's sister that died a couple of years ago. The one who was against Mette and said it publicly.

Madeleine seems cut off from the main family. She mustn't like snake girl and her relationship with her father looks cold  ???


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 13, 2014, 08:56:50 am
Why not have the kid at the Swedish Embassy here in the US?

I do think though that in some way Sweden should be part of the event and if she has this kid and the kid has a place in the succession, then at least the kid should have a choice.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on January 13, 2014, 11:33:46 am
Or declare the hospital room temporary Swedish, like all embassies. They did so when the Dutch Crown Princess Juliana gave birth to her third daughter Margriet in Canada where the Crown Princess and her daughters were living during WW II.
The hospital room was declared international territory so the princess wouldn't have Canadian citizenship (next to her Dutch citizenship she had automatically as the child of a Dutch national).


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: YooperModerator on January 13, 2014, 01:38:40 pm
The kid will have double nationality anyway no?
I know I have both Belgian and German citycenship (mum is German)
Though I'd have to aply with the German consulate to get a German pasport and since that requires a bit of much hated redtape and running around I never botherd with it.
Now if there were a distinct difference in say  taxes or pension I might think about it but with eurolaw it makes no difference at the moment so..


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on January 21, 2014, 08:31:19 pm
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A strong snowstorm today has completely covered the view from our office, hope I can make it home... — in New York, NY, United States

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=377111595759617&set=a.196917420445703.49412.196508567153255&type=1&theater

she looks so cute


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 13, 2014, 12:21:18 am
http://hrhsussex.tumblr.com/post/76465616280/danish-royal-family


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on February 21, 2014, 08:33:32 am
Princess Madeleine gave birth to a baby girl on Thursday Feb. 20 in NYC  :bouncy:

http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/mediacentre/pressreleases/pressreleases/princessmadeleineandmrchristopheroneillhavehadadaughter.5.19aaa1d3143e3582c02b28.html (http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/mediacentre/pressreleases/pressreleases/princessmadeleineandmrchristopheroneillhavehadadaughter.5.19aaa1d3143e3582c02b28.html)

http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/royalfamily/latestnews/latestnews/announcementfromthemarshaloftherealm.5.19aaa1d3143e3582c02ad3.html
 (http://www.kungahuset.se/royalcourt/royalfamily/latestnews/latestnews/announcementfromthemarshaloftherealm.5.19aaa1d3143e3582c02ad3.html)
No names and titles yet, but the King and Queen will come and meet their new granddaughter in the coming days.







Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on February 21, 2014, 12:35:32 pm
Congrats to the new parents


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 21, 2014, 01:24:12 pm
Awwww congrats to them  :loveshower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Gaeaskywalker on February 21, 2014, 04:05:59 pm
Congrats to the couple.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on February 21, 2014, 07:22:07 pm
someone from the press asked O'Neill if he had bought his wife a push-present and he said he had indeed. He didn't want to tell: "I will first give it to my wife before telling you".

Anyway, Madeleine gets the present but WK is still waiting for hers, for all we know.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on February 21, 2014, 10:43:51 pm
The patter of tiny feet: Proud father shows off his newborn baby girls' footprint as Swedish princess gives birth in New York City
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564873/Swedish-princess-gives-birth-daughter-NYC-amid-concerns-home-distant-home-country.html#ixzz2u00MGElZ
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O'Neill, who was born in London, maintained his US citizenship following his marriage to Princess Madeleine. If their child only takes US citizenship, she cannot be included in the line of succession.
Their child would also be barred from ascending to the Swedish throne if she doesn't grow up in Sweden or if she is raised Catholic, the religion of her father.
Public support for the ceremonial monarchy has weakened slightly in recent years, but remains fairly broad in otherwise egalitarian Sweden.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: cate1949 on February 21, 2014, 10:47:11 pm
congratulations and best wishes - doesn't the new Daddy look absolutely thrilled and happy


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 22, 2014, 02:10:27 am
He sure does he looks happy,tired ,and look like he was crying(happy tears) all night . awww at her tiny foot print on his arm


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: cate1949 on February 22, 2014, 02:45:41 am
this is how you want to see a new Father - thrilled at the birth of their chlid - and the footprint is so sweet

and then the 21 gun salute back in Sweden - lovely news for this family


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: True Brit on February 22, 2014, 09:52:39 am
^  :thumbsup: I know there are some who have their doubts about Chris O'Neill but as far as I can see this is a man head over heels in love with his wife at the wedding and now head over heels in love with his wife and baby daughter - just fabulous to see.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snowdrop on February 22, 2014, 02:57:05 pm
someone from the press asked O'Neill if he had bought his wife a push-present and he said he had indeed. He didn't want to tell: "I will first give it to my wife before telling you".

Anyway, Madeleine gets the present but WK is still waiting for hers, for all we know.

Maybe waity hasn't had a push present because she didn't push  :o


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: kolkomilko on February 22, 2014, 03:14:22 pm
 :laugh: :goodpost: :goodpost:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: rosielinks on February 22, 2014, 09:14:28 pm
I think Madeleine deserves it.

Bet the baby will be gorgeous.

Really hope the couple will be happy.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: MOSAIC on February 22, 2014, 09:45:38 pm

 :announcement:
Really lovely couple and now a lovely little baby daughter.  Congrats to the new family.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snokitty on February 23, 2014, 01:37:00 am
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhHmCdvIMAA3BRm.jpg

KateMiddletonReview ‏@KateMiddReview 10m

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“@Nordic_News: Swedish Princess Madeleine and Mr. O'Neill leave hospital with their daughter. Photo: kungahuset.se pic.twitter.com/ichoZTvswK”


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on February 24, 2014, 11:20:48 am
FIRST PICTURE: Swedish princess and American banker husband share first photo leaving hospital with their newborn daughter as the delighted King and Queen jet in to New York to meet her
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566364/Royal-grandparents-hit-Manhattan-Swedish-king-queen-come-New-York-newborn.html#ixzz2uEmVMpAW

lovely to see the first picture of this baby as being a car seat what is it with the royals and wanting to keep the baby's under wraps.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 24, 2014, 01:52:40 pm
Can't wait to see a full clear pics. Queen Silvia's face is tight looks like it pains her to smile


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: MOSAIC on February 24, 2014, 08:56:23 pm
FIRST PICTURE: Swedish princess and American banker husband share first photo leaving hospital with their newborn daughter as the delighted King and Queen jet in to New York to meet her
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2566364/Royal-grandparents-hit-Manhattan-Swedish-king-queen-come-New-York-newborn.html#ixzz2uEmVMpAW

lovely to see the first picture of this baby as being a car seat what is it with the royals and wanting to keep the baby's under wraps.

Sensible them keeping their baby daughter under wraps as she should be and well wrapped up.  They don't owe anyone
a photograph until they're ready and she's home and settled and her grandparents have seen her. Nice that they paused and we got that
much of a glimpse. That is the way most RFs do it now.  Baby's first contact with the outside world. I guess NY is pretty cold too. Sheesh!!!!
 :flower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on February 26, 2014, 02:15:21 pm
:announcement:

The baby is officially Her Royal Highness Princess Leonore Lilian Maria of Sweden, Duchess of Gotland

http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aktuellt2014januarimars/hkhprinsessanleonorelilianmariahertiginnaavgotland.5.19aaa1d3143e3582c02f5c.html


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on February 26, 2014, 03:46:45 pm
Awwww


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: gingerboy24 on February 26, 2014, 03:50:03 pm
Lovely photo, and also proud granny and grandad. Great to see.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snowpea on February 26, 2014, 03:51:07 pm
why is the kid a royal highness? only way to get maddie and the hubby to spend anytime in sweden?


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: MOSAIC on February 26, 2014, 06:53:01 pm
 :thumbsdown:  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Because that is her birthright as the daughter of a Swedish princess regardless of where she is born.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on February 26, 2014, 07:24:17 pm
No it isn't. Royal titles are usually only given to the next generation in the female line if the mother is the heir (like with Crown Princess Victoria, or Queen Elizabeth of the UK).

It is not normal to have children of younger daughters as RH's as well, unless of course when these daughters marry royals themselves. The children of Princess Margaret of the UK aren't HRH's, neither are the children of Princess Christina of The Netherlands or the children of both daughters of King Juan Carlos.
This is a massive break with tradition, but then again, many royals break with traditions all the time nowadays. Which in the end will end monarchies all together I think. But probably not in my lifetime.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: MOSAIC on February 26, 2014, 07:43:37 pm

It could be that with the consent of the Council which sat today, the style, title and dignity, which is the description applied in the BRF
was in the gift of the King.  It has been stated that she must commence her education in Sweden by the age of six to retain her place
in the succession.  If Carl Philip marries Sofia, presumably their children will be HRHs, so I don't imagine anyone in the RF would want
Madeleine and Chris' daughter relegated as Miss Leonore O'Neill when it was likely possible for him to determine otherwise with the
consent and approval of the Council. :flower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on February 26, 2014, 09:39:27 pm
I think it's lovely she gets the princess title. This time the king has done well. Madeline should have the same rights as CP. Isn't Victoria the heir?

However, the name Leonore and its variants is over used in the next generation. A bit boring.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: cate1949 on February 27, 2014, 12:02:26 am
those are lovely pics -  delightful baby girl and I like the name


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Nighthawk on February 27, 2014, 12:21:23 am
what a beautiful baby girl...bet these 2 are so proud...congrats to them both...although the name is a mouth full and I don't really care for it...but she's sooo cute  :loveshower:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: berlin on February 27, 2014, 03:14:04 am
At least her names are regal and royal.  I'm a bit surprised they did not go the modern route.  So Leonore has to commence education in Sweden by the age of 6?  So will Chris and Madeleine have to move to Sweden?  I hope not.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Duchess Georgiana on February 27, 2014, 06:28:12 am
How lovely. So the Princess title is a courtesy from the King :)  I find it weird that the baby's father chose to remain a commoner and now the baby is a Princess. Well, reigning monarchs can bestow titles upon whoever they want. I've read that actress Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband used to be a taxi driver and then he was adopted by a German Princess in exchange for a lot of money (she was bankrupt) and then he became a full titled Prince. Hilarious  :laugh:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snowpea on February 28, 2014, 12:46:41 am
:thumbsdown:  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Because that is her birthright as the daughter of a Swedish princess regardless of where she is born.

 :thumbsdown: Princesses married to commoners don't have children that are titled? What part of this truth warranted snarkiness?


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snowpea on February 28, 2014, 12:52:39 am

It could be that with the consent of the Council which sat today, the style, title and dignity, which is the description applied in the BRF
was in the gift of the King.  It has been stated that she must commence her education in Sweden by the age of six to retain her place
in the succession.  If Carl Philip marries Sofia, presumably their children will be HRHs, so I don't imagine anyone in the RF would want
Madeleine and Chris' daughter relegated as Miss Leonore O'Neill when it was likely possible for him to determine otherwise with the
consent and approval of the Council. :flower:

Well, her father isn't titled so her own title is a gift? Yeah...  :June:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Vesper on February 28, 2014, 12:56:26 am
Isn't it because Sweden has equal inheritance law that came into effect in the 1980s, and which is why Carl Philip is not the heir to the throne?


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on February 28, 2014, 07:51:13 am
Since 1980, Swedish princesses got equal rights to succession (and titles, hence Duchess of Gotland for little Leonore). So Princess Madeleine's children are entitled to be HRH and Prince / Princess as well, exactly like any children of her brother Carl Philip.
Chris O'Neill could also have been made a Duke upon his marriage, but he refused any title.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on February 28, 2014, 08:17:35 am
What you say is all true, but what made me post my comment was the use of the word 'birthright'. Noble titles are not transferred by women in the Scandinavian countries (neither in Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium).
Spain and the UK (in some cases) are the exception to the rule. And of course the rules are slightly changed when it concerns royals, but in that case special laws have to be accepted by the national parliament, or the Council of State.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on February 28, 2014, 09:25:07 am
Sorry  :flower: I thought about royal titles not noble titles


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Countess of Holland on February 28, 2014, 11:27:53 am
Since 1980, Swedish princesses got equal rights to succession (and titles, hence Duchess of Gotland for little Leonore). So Princess Madeleine's children are entitled to be HRH and Prince / Princess as well, exactly like any children of her brother Carl Philip.
Chris O'Neill could also have been made a Duke upon his marriage, but he refused any title.

But to be in the line of succession, they don't need royal titles. Not even noble ones. The daughters of Princess Martha of Norway are in the line of succession, but are named Behn, without a title or HRH. Even their cousin, Sverre, the younger son of the Crown Prince, is no HRH. The same with the children of f.e. Princess Anne The Princess Royal, or the children of the Infanta's Elena and Cristina.

The fact that Madeleine's daughter is an HRH, Duchess of Gotland etc is the result of her grandfather's wish (so I understand). But it is not a tradition for a princess to transfer her titles on her children and there is no need from a law-point of view.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Snokitty on March 01, 2014, 09:04:42 pm
Scandinavian Royals. ‏@crownprincely 40m

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Princess Leonore's christening will take place at the beginning of Summer, that will be the first time she will travel to Sweden.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Fly on the wall on March 09, 2018, 09:53:17 am
It's a girl born March 9th
http://johnabradley.tumblr.com/post/171685848241/its-a-girl-congratulations-to-madeleine-and

https://www.thelocal.se/20180309/royal-baby-boom-swedens-princess-madeleine-gives-birth-to-her-third-child


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Rosella on March 09, 2018, 10:01:07 am
And many congratulations to the couple, who now are a family of five!  Doesn't seem so long ago that Estelle was the King and Queen's only grandchild and now they have seven.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on March 09, 2018, 04:18:29 pm
 :flower: Welcome little princess !

The first picture of the baby:
https://y.cdn-expressen.se/images/90/d2/90d2a80e386f4c92b8f06551e356a0c1/16x9/680.jpg


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Kins on March 09, 2018, 04:23:09 pm
She looks so much like Chris. She is a sweetie-love those cheeks!


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HRHOlya on March 09, 2018, 04:42:16 pm
She really looks like Nicolas when he was born as Chris said in an interview outside the hospital!
Monday the name will be revealed and the Te Deum held.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on March 09, 2018, 07:01:02 pm
Chris will not deal with two girls lol


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: FrederickLouis on March 09, 2018, 10:23:04 pm
The happiest days are when babies are born! :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on March 12, 2018, 10:28:27 am
Adrienne josephine Alice

So cute


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HRHOlya on March 12, 2018, 11:08:27 am
I like the name, but can't help but find it super unusual for a "royal"! I know some people find Madeleine's name choices "interesting", but "Leonore" and "Nicolas" are pretty normal and somewhat classic - maybe very unusual for Swedish ears and people. Adrienne is imo unusual, but still a beautiful name.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgODjlfF_8g/?taken-by=princess_madeleine_of_sweden

Here's Chris's interview from outside the hospital last Friday, when Adrienne was born
https://www.expressen.se/tv/nyheter/kungligt/chris-oneill-valdigt-lik-nicolas/


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HRHOlya on March 12, 2018, 12:26:06 pm
Btw, Adrienne is the duchess of Blekinge.

H.K.H. Prinsessan Adrienne Josephine Alice, hertiginna av Blekinge
http://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamiljen/aktuellahandelser/aktuellt/hkhprinsessanadriennejosephinealicehertiginnaavblekinge.5.75c3e6a11621926fce04d.html

https://files.svenskdam.se/uploads/2018/03/madeleins-bebis-kungahuset-700x467.jpg

https://scontent-dub4-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/edcf80d1c5b85b26db779b47e4950a2b/5B458484/t51.2885-15/e35/28428606_346692229159863_5288663196029157376_n.jpg

Te Deum for Adrienne (& Madde I guess) today
https://preview.ibb.co/h9EKiS/120025.jpg
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https://s14.postimg.org/a2ykq460x/image.jpg
https://s14.postimg.org/un3eoltht/image.jpg
https://s14.postimg.org/7lmtitbtt/image.jpg
https://s14.postimg.org/lfb67uh9t/image.jpg
https://s14.postimg.org/pofwa22jl/image.jpg
https://s14.postimg.org/hixubvyv5/image.jpg


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: beline on March 12, 2018, 12:33:59 pm
I like that name and her title  :flower:



Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: Alexandrine on March 12, 2018, 01:24:30 pm
Estelle has a weirder name and she is going to be queen.

So for adrienne there is more freedom and it is really cute.

I have seen Carl Phillip and he looks awful...


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: FrederickLouis on March 12, 2018, 09:37:21 pm
I like the selection of Josephine as one of Adrienne's middle names. What a wonderful tribute to Queen Josephine of Sweden!


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HRHOlya on March 12, 2018, 10:03:16 pm
Actually Josephine was chosen after Chris's grandmother, and it's one of Madde's names too. Alice was chosen after Madde's granny, Alice Sommerlath. Adrienne was chosen by both.

Svensk Dam claims Adrienne was one of Silvia's favourite names, and when she met Adrienne Riddez in the nineties she said she wished she had given Madeleine the name Adrienne instead.
The story is apparently shared by Adrienne on her Facebook.
https://www.svenskdam.se/2018/03/svensk-damtidning-avslojar-hemligheten-bakom-madeleines-namnval/

On "Nicolas": Chris O'Neill has said that he was supposed to have that name.
Chris said, when asked about Nicolas' name: "In fact, I was called Nicolas for less than a day. But then my dad said, "Forget it, he's a Christopher." And then it became Christopher", Chris told Johan T Lindwall in 2015.
Nicolas's middle names are also after his grandfathers (Paul & Gustaf).

Leonore has Lilian after Bertil's Lilian, & Maria likely after her granny Eva Maria.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: FrederickLouis on March 13, 2018, 09:05:06 pm
@HRHOlya, Princess Madeleine's middle name of Josephine is after Queen Josephine of Sweden.


Title: Re: Princess Madeleine pregnant
Post by: HRHOlya on March 13, 2018, 09:30:38 pm
^ That's true :) Ultimately the origin of the name in the Bernadotte family goes back to her!