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Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: royalfanPKLS on August 21, 2013, 08:06:30 am
And if so, how do you think Kate would react to it?


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 21, 2013, 08:23:58 am
Kate would be a self righteous priss who would rant and rave to the media about evil William, evil 'other woman,' and in time, leave him or William would remind her that HE is prince and she is a commoner (common really) and she owes him full obedience as he has done everything for her.

Just like Henry VIII.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on August 21, 2013, 09:23:07 am
Kate needs not to worry Willy might sleep with other women but full on affair? No way !!! He is not the type ... he is to focused on himself to fall in love  :bored: ...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 21, 2013, 02:06:48 pm
Probably already fallen off the rails if he is running true to form.  Full blown affair?  Unless he actually fell in love with someone other than himself for the first time in his life then no, takes too much time and effort that he is not prepared to give.  Unless of course it was another wasty type stalker who decided she wanted him by hook or by crook and got her claws stuck in  -  that is how wasty hooked him in the first place.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: CathyJane on August 21, 2013, 04:05:25 pm
I'm sure at some point he will yell at Waity 'you don't expect me to be the only prince of wales who doesn't have a mistress, do you?'  8)


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starlite on August 21, 2013, 04:13:35 pm
um, yes! PW never respected Kate even when they were dating.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on August 22, 2013, 08:47:34 am
Probably already fallen off the rails if he is running true to form.  Full blown affair?  Unless he actually fell in love with someone other than himself for the first time in his life then no, takes too much time and effort that he is not prepared to give.  Unless of course it was another wasty type stalker who decided she wanted him by hook or by crook and got her claws stuck in  -  that is how wasty hooked him in the first place.
Exactly!!!  8)


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: rosielinks on August 22, 2013, 08:51:17 am
I don't think PW has the enthusiasm to have an affair. He likes everything to be easy. Having an affair means effort - lies, subterfuge, finding places to meet, having to trust certain friends with the secret and then having the energy to bonk! I don't think he's got it in him.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 22, 2013, 10:54:44 am
And if so, how do you think Kate would react to it?

Willy is a stubborn person. He married Kate because he was told not to do so.  So who knows?
Just look at his father...
Kate pretends everything is fine because she clings to power and money.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 22, 2013, 11:16:01 am
He might have an affair and like Henry VIII, remind her that he can bring her down far faster than after a decade when he decided to marry her. Kate would never object because she has no ability to lay down the law. She has no allies, no lineage to impress, not the goodwill of the public, and certainly not at all the support of the courtiers. She is surrounded by people who in the natural course of things, would never have noticed her. She would have been just another face in the crowds during his appearances, which she might go to if she had the day off.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 22, 2013, 12:42:32 pm
I think PW is with the Boleyn's now, but he will meet a family like the Seymour's who have a daughter and the family is game for rising in the ranks and taking on the Middleton's.  :spy:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: carrie on August 22, 2013, 05:30:12 pm
I will be surprised if he doesn't


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: One of the Peasants on August 22, 2013, 05:39:20 pm
I think Willy is like a Walker in "The Walking Dead" he runs by instinct and instinct only, meaning, if someone says NO! then he automatically does it.  Considering the genes he was born with, Chuck's, it is a matter of when not if he has an affair.  Waity is like the humans in "The Walking Dead" she is there to be devoured by him, her personality, drive, ambition were all obliterated by this relationship and now that she has the ring and the palace, even if she is scared poopless of living in it, she will live her life based on the instinct to keep her poshy life, survival of the most opulent. 

This relationship is so toxic, there never was a chance for it to have honor and fidelity and integrity.  None of these words are part of Willy's life and Waity does not care as long as the black Amex is still open to her.  Just a thought, I might be off my rocker, or it might be from the fact that I watch 10 episodes of The Walking Dead yesterday, bliss, pure bliss.   :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 22, 2013, 08:44:02 pm
He might have an affair and like Henry VIII, remind her that he can bring her down far faster than after a decade when he decided to marry her. Kate would never object because she has no ability to lay down the law. She has no allies, no lineage to impress, not the goodwill of the public, and certainly not at all the support of the courtiers. She is surrounded by people who in the natural course of things, would never have noticed her. She would have been just another face in the crowds during his appearances, which she might go to if she had the day off.


Very good points. The press is probably aware of this possibility and I think that at some point (perhaps soon) they are going to dig deep in WK's past and also try to find out about William's life in Wales. I'm sure that they are probably looking for something special to publish. It would be also revenge for W&K's behavior (not wanting to cooperate with the press) and as a revenge for Palmer.

They probably know that those are K.'s weak spots and of course that infidelity happens (after all, he is Charles' son and W&K live separately). If the press would go after her, she'll be flamed by them. Knowing that she doesn't have a support network except for her family, but no one else. Especially the palace knows her weak spots by now and might even throw her to the wolves if they want to (they have plenty of reasons to do so). She must be constantly afraid of such a scenario and that William can easily bring her down. And this time it would be over without a chance to be able to manipulate him in order to get back together.
I wonder how she would try to defend herself in the public? She never explained herself in any interviews or in other ways in front of the public. She keeps hiding and is hoping that someone else might clean up the mess for her.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: dianab on August 22, 2013, 10:13:33 pm
I will be surprised if he doesn't
Me too

I think Willy is like a Walker in "The Walking Dead" he runs by instinct and instinct only, meaning, if someone says NO! then he automatically does it.  Considering the genes he was born with, Chuck's, it is a matter of when not if he has an affair.  
For is hard believe some born male Windsor even believe or cares about fidelity.

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And if so, how do you think Kate would react to it?
I think some day he would fall hard for someone else, there will be new public circus...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 22, 2013, 11:44:47 pm
If he were to cheat on her with a member of royalty or aristocracy, I believe it would be the funniest slap in the face to the press and Middletons than anything else.

Chances are that if William has an affair, it will happen just like Kate snagged William, with the other girl in question probably being kept chaste until this mess of a marriage runs its course and ends with Kate banished to Berkshire, the marriage annulled, and then the new girl slipped between the sheets of the wedding bed after a classier/regal wedding.

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She keeps hiding and is hoping that someone else might clean up the mess for her.

William cleaned up after her, while the courtiers cleaned up after William; now the courtiers clean up after her, but at this point in time, there might come a point where William is told to choose Kate and her commoner life and his blood family and end up with royal life.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 23, 2013, 01:05:51 am
Very good analysis of the situation. The way how things look like at the moment is not a nice development. He is ignoring her and having his carefree life, while she is stuck in Berkshire and trying to get even more help with the kid. And then the news that she might stay there for a much longer time, that sounds some kind of as if he already made a decision and Kate is banished from the royal life. Like an excuse or a cover for this mess as well as to make it less humiliating for her. No happily married couple behaves like that.

Just like you said, that he would be told to choose one option, Kate and the Midds or his royal life. He seems to enjoy his freedom and the perks of being royal too much in order to give it up. Another thing is, he wouldn't be able to live a 'normal' life because he would be on his own and wouldn't know how to deal with the 'real world'. And maybe because of the constant drama from Kate. After a decade with her, he can probably imagine how a life with her would be.

As for an affair, I agree. He would keep things quiet until the marriage is annulled. He always used to be secretive, almost paranoid regarding the press. So rather keep a low profile.

Yes, then the new one could be a nice person. The Mansons would cry in front of the TV while watching the regal wedding. Maybe even getting a nervous breakdown. The bride in a tasteful dress, not a copy of Grace Kelly's dress and certainly no cone b**bs. An overall classy event.



Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 23, 2013, 01:30:43 am
An affair would just complicate things and make a mess of an already messy life and I wonder if in fact the palace might prevent him from having one. Kate doesn't want to go, but this time around he might think he's done all anyone can expect him too and now she has to start accepting the fact that he has paid her every courtesy and chance in life.

I believe that William might or might not tie himself down, but chances are he'll end up sending her away permanently this time. It's only a matter of whether or not it'll be through annulment or divorce. If it's an annulment it means that the marriage was never legitimate and I do wonder if whether or not he might actually find a good reason for it.

Kate can't object to an affair since she was supposedly cheating with him while he was with someone else. She might pull it off in public, but he knows her for who she is. At some point even a tart starts getting stale and overused and soon men become disgusted with their mistresses and want someone decent who will help them clean up their act.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 23, 2013, 12:36:23 pm
I think at some point Kate is going to get a little hollywood, celebrity-stardust in her eyes and start being enamored with male celebs, moviestars, I don't think she'll act on it, but she may deal in light flirtations which may bring her questionable press and embarrass William.

She practically was flirting with every guy within her range at the Olympics. She looked so gross, imo. (Also...after the Olympics she went to France and stripped naked outside, gawwwd knows how many security people or servants may have seen her topless and bottomless on that patio. )  :ick:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on August 23, 2013, 02:22:29 pm
 lmao @ everybody thinking Willy is too lazy to have an actual affair ... who knows he might shock us and he will find his Jane ...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 23, 2013, 03:35:47 pm
I don't think an affair by William would shock too many, except the general public who many just got interested in this couple at the time of the engagement and don't really know their history.  :bored:

I don't think this marriage was really about love for him.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Snokitty on August 23, 2013, 05:03:20 pm
William may want to have an affair but he probably won't because he doesn't trust anyone to keep their mouth shut. He was with Kate so long before marriage because she could keep her mouth shut. He is an extremely paranoid person.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: rosielinks on August 23, 2013, 05:16:40 pm
^ ITA

PW knows that if he had an affair which the press found out about, he would be slated left right and centre once the press gloves come off. He is terrified of bad press and wants to be seen as the good husband and father. He is not reckless enough to trust his friends not to let something slip.

However, I think maybe part of the deal with Waity was that he could have the odd dalliance if he kept it discrete. He does have a close inner circle which he probably does trust by now but I don't think he would risk a full blown affair. Who knows, maybe he has some nice aristo marrried lady who can pleasure him somewhere out of the way of prying lenses and eyes. He certainly does not seem to be all that bothered about Waity's charms these days.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Adeline on August 23, 2013, 06:04:18 pm
I have no doubt that he has and will have affairs. It's just a question of who talks to who, and which press member has the guts to publish it.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 23, 2013, 06:15:42 pm
I'll just say never say never. :spy:  

Ingrid Seward wrote in one of her magazine letter's that William is very sneaky, even she was surprised at the lengths some of the press goes to , to keep his image golden. (,.....and this was when Ingrid was in her high syncophant William phase.) I think she wavers back and forth on that syncophancy since Kate's nude episode....)  But for her to say William is very sneaky, she knew something at that point to give her the impression he's very sneaky. I don't think that has changed.



Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 23, 2013, 09:51:01 pm
...
.. (Also...after the Olympics she went to France and stripped naked outside, gawwwd knows how many security people or servants may have seen her topless and bottomless on that patio. )  :ick:

I'm sure we will be able to read about it in one of the tell-all books written by a former security officers/servants in future  :laugh:  :laugh:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: royalwindsorfan on August 24, 2013, 12:00:46 am
Yes he is capable.he is a man.I don't see will and kate divorcing.kate and her family wouldn't want to be outsiders like diana and fergie


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 24, 2013, 09:25:54 am
No matter what's written now or said now in hindsight about Charles and Diana, No one saw Di and Charles divorcing when they married, at this time in their marriage , the press said defiantly, positively, with absolute assurance "There can never be a divorce."  They were the golden couple in the press-around the world and the still young dazzling couple who many of the press said should be given the Throne over the Queen, yes they actually wrote those things about the Golden Couple ;Charles and Diana in those heady golden couple years. Only a few insider's knew seriously about trouble early on,(the woman on the train was a clue to be solved and thought of as Charles last fling by the press, even if they may have sensed it was an old girlfriend, or Camilla) no matter what is written now, it's not true that on the world stage the general public knew of any trouble between Charles and Diana in the marriage, except Diana had premarriage jitters for a few fleating moments, written off as nervous young bride and Charles was thought to have said goodbye to the old girls, possibly on the train, by the general public, NO matter what is written now or after 1986 , this was thought to be the Golden couple, because THAT is what the press wanted the world to believe (and only a few of the astute press mainly James Whitaker sense something lingering (Camilla)and had his insider Courtier's relaying him info, NONE were printing it yet at this point in the marriage, the world generally believed for the most part that this was the Fairy Tale couple and the new shining Monarchy. No one thought Charles and Diana could ever divorce either at this point in their marriage (second-third year) The press drummed out the mantra "this marriage is for life,when they married", "Diana will be our Queen one day, Charles our King", yada,yada,yada,yada,yada.....and divorce was not mentioned or even thought of, just spoken of in the phrase "there can never be a divorce."

Never say never.  :bored:

What looks like a Fairy Tale or set in stone, or power in a certain family in Berkshire or their daughter , may be built on clay.

Let's see where this couple is in 5 , 7,8 yrs.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 24, 2013, 10:47:07 am
 :goodpost:  Totally agree SG.  Seems like life in "paradise" is not working out so well for those two. We watch and wait, things will be leaked eventually.  I am convinced that the press would just love to be able to let rip, those journos know so much but their hands are tied - at the moment.  Let´s see if a European journo gets hold of anything, they will run with it.  Again, with the internet, it does not matter if they ban it all being published in the UK, we just flick the switch and there it all is in front of us ready to read.  As we all know, the internet is a powerful tool and can work for or against a situation.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Snokitty on August 24, 2013, 12:13:46 pm
The difference between Charles/Diana & William/Kate is that Kate would look the other way, keep her mouth shut and just enjoy all the perks. The press is also unable to fool as many members of the public now as they were in the "Fairy Tale" days.

There will not be a divorce until William gets over his obsession with the Middleton family and his hatred for his own family.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: rosielinks on August 24, 2013, 02:17:42 pm
^ Yes that is it in a nutshell.

I was beginning to think PW was getting over his fixation with the Midds - because he seemed to be neglecting Waity and Carole - but after the recent baby photos I am not so sure.

It certainly does look like he is distancing himself from his family of birth - he has not visited HM or Philip in Balmoral. I don't think PP has seen PG yet. Also PC and Cams don't appear to be too interested in the new baby either. It looks like a stand off.

I am looking forward to the Christening. The details of that and any media coverage will be very telling.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 24, 2013, 02:39:41 pm
Indeed.  :sigh:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on August 25, 2013, 01:54:32 pm
I am no expert but some men not all of them but it happens a lot are said to think of their baby mammas as just that after they have their baby ... it kills the libido ... I don't know if anyone here knows this but Lisa Marie Presley is an only child because Elvis couldn't even touch Priscilla after she gave birth ... I can see this happen with Willy ... he will lay one more time with her and think of England but after that he will pull an Elvis  :tehe: ...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Nighthawk on August 25, 2013, 07:29:57 pm

Camilla Parker-Bowles Calls Kate Middleton Daily To Say That Prince William Will Cheat
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/kate-middleton-camilla-parker-bowles-prince-william-cheat-mistress-cheater-0825/
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When Kate Middleton was weeks away from delivering Prince George Queen Elizabeth really laid down the law with Camilla Parker-Bowles. She was to stay a mile from Kate and her baby thanks in great part to Camilla’s relentless attacks on Prince William’s wife. The last thing a pregnant woman needs to hear is how her husband will eventually choose a mistress that he truly loves and that is precisely the kind of garbage that Camilla was dishing out at Kate. Intervention was needed and Camilla was pushed back from Kate and her new family, but that doesn’t mean that she has been out of touch.
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Camilla calls Kate every day to check on her new grandson. While that sounds like a doting grandmother move it’s absolutely intended to push Kate’s buttons. Those daily calls remind Kate that Camilla isn’t going anywhere and that as soon as the ban has been lifted she’ll be right back in Kate’s face saying whatever she can to unravel the duchess.
lmao my word what imaginations some have


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 25, 2013, 07:39:26 pm
I think I admire Camilla for this; Kate insulted her and Charles a lot and now Camilla is doling out some payback.

As for an affair, he will have one if Kate doesn't get her act together and start acting like a wife and mother, along with helping him build valuable connections.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Emperor on August 25, 2013, 08:30:31 pm
I doubt PW willl fall in love with anyone long enough for him to have an affair, I guess his main love in his life is himself.

Wether or not he will cheat on WK is another story, I personally believe he will at some point if he hasn't since the marriage.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Nighthawk on August 25, 2013, 08:47:17 pm
when I read this thread I think to myself why not a have thread Will Kate ever have an affair. :king: ..there are pictures of her and her ex boyfriend sneaking out of her flat while she was dating PW early in the morning, so IMO if anyone has an affair it will be Kate


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 25, 2013, 11:50:11 pm
That's what I think, I think in the end it might be Kate, after watching her drooling over every guy at the Olympics last summer.  Stranger things have happened.  :bored:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 26, 2013, 04:54:16 pm
In my opinion their marriage seems more like an arranged contract. It's a win-win situation for both, he is getting (or trying to get) his revenge on the RF and she is having a luxurious life. They live separately and there doesn't seem to be any love between them. He is in Wales and enjoying his life. So why not having affairs? I am dead sure that he is having them. No normal and happy relationship is looking like that. If they were not royal, they would look like a normal, separated couple in the public eye. A lot of people don't dare to doubt their 'marriage' just because he is a prince and behind him his powerful family. They want a fairy tale image.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: bluetee27 on August 30, 2013, 06:55:57 pm
I just don't understand how so many people have bought into this marriage.  They are playing family. I believe William is having his fun and spending the least amount of time with Kate. This is why I believe the press is kept at bay because they do not want the truth to be revealed. 

Yes, they have it all but it's must suck to live in a bubble and know that your life is one big lie/cover up.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 30, 2013, 08:48:59 pm
In my opinion their marriage seems more like an arranged contract. It's a win-win situation for both, he is getting (or trying to get) his revenge on the RF and she is having a luxurious life. They live separately and there doesn't seem to be any love between them. He is in Wales and enjoying his life. So why not having affairs? I am dead sure that he is having them. No normal and happy relationship is looking like that. If they were not royal, they would look like a normal, separated couple in the public eye. A lot of people don't dare to doubt their 'marriage' just because he is a prince and behind him his powerful family. They want a fairy tale image.

Pitiful; he married Kate to avoid that and ended up with this.

I don't think he's enjoying life at all, if he were, he wouldn't look as prematurely aged and openly resentful at times.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 30, 2013, 08:55:41 pm
^
Just the way he looked like today, at this Ring of Fire event (or however it was called). He looked stressed and aged. I feel a bit sorry for him, but he basically did this to himself.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 30, 2013, 09:35:56 pm
Even in the portrait of him with his son he looks miserable.

You know, I hope he looks in the mirror each night and ends up understanding that he had choices and accepts that he's where he is by choice, not by circumstance.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Maria on August 31, 2013, 11:39:03 am
Would William have an affair? 100% YES!!!

I never believed he was faithful to Kate. William cheated on Kate or break up with her whenever he fancied another girl during and after university. And don´t forget: William lived alone in Wales after only one year of marriage! Kate lives with her mummy since the Midds moved into the new Manor House.
William may have / had one-night-stands or was recruiting some old flames in the countryside while Waity was playing Scrabble with mum and dad. A man who got away with cheating the first ten or twenty times will never change!

I don´t think, William already has a mistress but in the future I bet he´ll have one. That has nothing to do with love but William is lazy.  So if he can find a women who is willing he´ll have a permanent mistress like his father had....


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 31, 2013, 04:11:57 pm
Even in the portrait of him with his son he looks miserable.

You know, I hope he looks in the mirror each night and ends up understanding that he had choices and accepts that he's where he is by choice, not by circumstance.

I hope so too. And maybe he started to realize that this situation doesn't make sense. I think if everything is going to become too much for him to deal with, too much stress, he will want to get out of this situation. He would ask the palace for help, I guess. He would be too weak in order to fight against the Midds all by himself.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Snokitty on August 31, 2013, 04:18:54 pm
Williams everyday look is miserable. He enjoys the perks of being a royal but hates the cameras. The only time he looks as if he isn't miserable is when he doesn't know he is being photographed.

Kate is the opposite, she looks miserable when she doesn't know the camera is there but is grinning like a Banshee if she sees them. Unless it is a photo op she has arranged with Tanna and then she gets the irritated face to try and show William that she hates the attention.

William married Kate because no one else wanted him but there are women who only go after men who are attached to someone else so I imagine an affair will occur.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 31, 2013, 05:59:16 pm
Even in the portrait of him with his son he looks miserable.
You know, I hope he looks in the mirror each night and ends up understanding that he had choices and accepts that he's where he is by choice, not by circumstance.

I hope so too. And maybe he started to realize that this situation doesn't make sense. I think if everything is going to become too much for him to deal with, too much stress, he will want to get out of this situation. He would ask the palace for help, I guess. He would be too weak in order to fight against the Midds all by himself.

He reminds me a lot of myself; I got mixed up with the wrong guy, wondered what was going wrong, and now after a near decade later, I look back and realize my problem was that I never followed through on my first instinct and kept him as a friend and not a boyfriend. William is a guy who is dealing with a wife who is acting like an infant, who refuses to get herself together, and he's just like a lot of guys who think they are getting in with someone who is just spontaneity, but is at this point in time in over his head. She's not someone who helps herself, she is someone who is kind of addicted to disaster, mistaking it for spontaneity. She's a little kid playing with adult toys.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on August 31, 2013, 09:56:35 pm
I think whatever made him dump her in 2007 will arise in him again and he will have a public mid-life crisis, which will embarrass Kate to the point that the public will seriously question why she's with him.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on September 01, 2013, 10:07:43 am
^ I agree whatever made him dump her over and over again is still there waiting to awake in his again ... it won't be pretty for Kate especially since no one will take her side not the public or the press ...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: bluetee27 on September 02, 2013, 02:46:13 pm
I've always think there was more to William and Jecca's relationship. It's just weird that he proposed to Kate in Kenya. It was almost like a snub towards Jecca.  Also, I will never forget the way Kate smiled at Jecca when walking back down the aisle.

If Jecca never marries I would not be shocked to find out if she was William's Camilla.



Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on September 02, 2013, 02:53:28 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if he needed to talk the engagement over with Jecca's family before he proposed. For some reason he seemed to feel their home was the environment he wanted to propose to Kate in.

It reminded me of Camilla giving Diana the ok to Prince Charles choosing Diana as a bride.

I don't think Jecca would lower herself to be William's mistress though. I think she'd have gone for marriage herself if she really wanted William.

Jecca's dad seemed to be practically tearing-up, or crying when he spoke of the engagement and how much he cared about William as a person.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 02, 2013, 03:36:52 pm
Asking Jecca about proposing to Kate is a slap in the face to Jecca and all those years of friendship. There might not be adultery (I don't think Jecca is the type), but I don't forget that it was Kenya where William proposed and on the very Craig estate that Jecca's family owns. William is a complete *fool* and blind as a bat.

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Also, I will never forget the way Kate smiled at Jecca when walking back down the aisle.

Smug wench.

I believe William might have felt ashamed about it and I imagine Jecca's father was wounded; all those years of friendship and go figure, he proposes to another woman (Kate of all women) on the very property where Jecca's family lives and maintains. He should stay married to Kate for that alone as penance.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on September 02, 2013, 03:56:57 pm
Exactly.

I think also  Craigs knew William was the Middleton's tool and he was in too deep.

I always find it odd how Jecca keeps breaking engagements or ending long term relationships. This present guy she's with is lasting though, so  maybe she might take the plunge and marry this one.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Val on September 02, 2013, 03:57:57 pm
I've always think there was more to William and Jecca's relationship. It's just weird that he proposition to Kate in Kenya. It was almost like a snub towards Jecca.  Also, I will never forget the way Kate smiled at Jecca when walking back down the aisle.

If Jecca never marries I would not be shocked to find out if she was William's Camilla.



It's not IF he has an affair but WHEN!  Waity would put up with it however just to keep the lifestyle although since waity and the Middletons came on board Royalty and titles have become totally meaningless.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on September 02, 2013, 04:05:58 pm
I believe she will put up with it, but the woman PW "might" one day choose to sneak around with might not (and that may end up being the problem.)


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 03, 2013, 01:30:15 am
If he has an affair, it'll be with someone just like Kate; Kate is the type of woman that men of William's class have affairs, with, not the type they marry. That is why I was so surprised at the news of an engagement, not a breakup. It won't be with a woman of his class since those women don't want that drama in their lives.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Mooster on September 03, 2013, 01:04:34 pm
I don't think PW has the enthusiasm to have an affair. He likes everything to be easy. Having an affair means effort - lies, subterfuge, finding places to meet, having to trust certain friends with the secret and then having the energy to bonk! I don't think he's got it in him.

Sorry, nothing to add to this thread but I nearly wet myself laughing at this post, particularly the bit in bold....thank you, I needed cheering up  :thankyou:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: rosielinks on September 03, 2013, 05:46:25 pm
 :hi:

Thanks Mooster. Glad to raise a smile.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on October 30, 2013, 10:34:48 pm
KM will take William's cheating as she has not one ounce of Diana's trail blazing attitude. Can anyone really imagine this KM giving an interview to Bashir?
Of course not!!!
She will swallow the cheating insult and hope she is not dropped on the sidewalk. She has much to lose without William.The woman has never worked and what would she do? Go for a "Duke" , a "Lord" after she was with the Prince, Heir to the Throne. Of course not.
She will fume, complain to Momma Carole that will advise her to keep quiet & carry on towards the path of the throne.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: bluetee27 on October 31, 2013, 03:38:16 am
I just don't think William has remained faithful all of these years to Kate. I also don't believe he is attracted to Kate as in she wasn't his first choice. I wouldn't put it past William or any of the royals to have a different preference in women but they can't express it publicly because they fear backlash and stigma. Therefore, they date and marry someone who will fit the royal image.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 31, 2013, 06:55:18 am
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Go for a "Duke" , a "Lord" after she was with the Prince, Heir to the Throne. Of course not.

A Duke or Lord wouldn't have her; it's not like she's someone who was desirable beforehand or a part of that set.

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She will fume, complain to Momma Carole that will advise her to keep quiet & carry on towards the path of the throne.

Mainly because Ma Midds will remind her daughter that if she doesn't stay married, she won't be able to come home and live there life before or live on her parent's bank account indefinitely. After all, Kate has nowhere else to go; no way will Kate be able to end up living in one of the palaces as a settlement. Diana only go to keep KP because she had spent her whole twenties (prime earning years) dedicating herself to the RF and at that age starting over would be impossible.

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Can anyone really imagine this KM giving an interview to Bashir?

Not really; who would sympathize with her?


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Val on October 31, 2013, 08:38:23 am
Ma knows which way the bread is buttered and would lock Wasty in the bat cave and lose the key before she allowed that!


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on October 31, 2013, 09:21:29 am
I don't know Di took Chuck's  feelings for Cam for Years until she exploded ... I can see that happen with Kate as well ... after all she is now a Duchess and mother to a future King she might feel the same way Di felt after a while of taking Willy's disrespect  :cookie: ...


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 31, 2013, 10:33:01 am
I think wasty would accept him having an affair, and no doubt his close circle of friends would provide him with venues, that is what happened with Charles.  Basically wasty has no choice, she has to put up with it or walk out, and she won´t do that of her own accord, as others have said, ma would not let her.  :laundry:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 31, 2013, 11:08:00 am
I don't know Di took Chuck's  feelings for Cam for Years until she exploded ... I can see that happen with Kate as well ... after all she is now a Duchess and mother to a future King she might feel the same way Di felt after a while of taking Willy's disrespect  :cookie: ...

It is possible that Kate feels she has the same standing as Diana but she would be in for a surprise. We feel that the RF treated Diana cold, but that was a warm summer breeze compared to how WK would be treated by the royals in case of a divorce.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: india on October 31, 2013, 11:25:15 am
I bet old horse head Willy The Bald has had plenty of affairs since he tied the knot with The Waiter. Plenty. What is she going to do about it? Whine to that old conniving reptile Carolsaurus? Big Deal and whiney woo woo to you Waity. Suck it up B*tch.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on October 31, 2013, 02:43:39 pm
KM is not made of the same cloth as Diana. KM would never dare to go up against the RF. She's too flimsy and
will go with the flow and what that means is whatever the RF has in store for her, as 'the flow'.
William might have married her to take revenge against what was done to Diana but he should had then married someone with a strong and confident personality. None of those she has, and at this age is doubtful she will in the future.
KM is missing strength of character. Besides, she's out of her league in that family's circle.
Diana wasn't. Diana was an aristocrat , she held her own because she wasn't 'new' to those circles. Since birth she had dealt with the aristocrats, the protocols, how to curtsey, how to walk, how to speak, what silverware to use. Since birth she lived on a estate on 15,000 acres. That estate houses centuries old million of pounds worth works of arts. Sure she was at first a shy very young woman but as James Whittaker said, Diana from cradle was already in that circle.
KM had to learn from 'scratch' while for Diana much of the 'do's & don'ts' of protocols among other niceties came naturally for her because she was born into it.
Remember the reporter mocking Carole? what reporter would had dared to mock Diana's father while the cameras were rolling?

KM must treading water daily. She can't swim in those royal waters.




Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: CathyJane on October 31, 2013, 08:20:57 pm
Wonder if Jecca would consent to be his mistress? Wouldn't that really frost Ma and Waity's cookies!!  :tehe:


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 31, 2013, 10:56:22 pm
Wasty is way out of her depth, and wimpo should have known she would be  -  he possibly did and didn´t care.  She has no etiquette, no class, she is dull and has no conversation, just like wimpo.  She had many years to learn how to behave, and in fact common sense, if she had any, would have helped her along. She also had access to lots of people who would have been willing to help her, but no, wasty knew best. So much knowledge and expertise available to her but she has ignored it all along the line.. She stands up to the rf through wimpo, she throws a wobbly, makes his life hell, ah my poor wasty, can´t see her upset, they upset my mother, he throws a paddy, gets stubborn, protocol out of the window and to hell with everyone  Wasty is very thick skinned, she knows it all, and if she wanted to face out HM I actually think she would, trouble is I think she has a fair idea she would not win, hence her using wimpo to get her own way.  Unfortunately for her the rf took it for quite a while, but no longer it would seem.  Would wimpo have an affair, most definitely yes, he may well already have had a few flings for all we know, they were (are) apart and awful lot. All those hunting weekends hmmmm, can get up to all sorts, always women hanging around ready to throw themselves at these guys. Wasty might raise hell, but she won´t walk out, too scared to. She will make his life hell, and the more she does that the more he will do his own thing.  Going to be a pretty miserable life for her.  She should do herself a favour and run, as fast as she can, away from that lot, they are bad news for her, she will never be accepted, and a lot of it has to do with her own behaviour.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on November 01, 2013, 03:50:58 pm
^
True, except KM does not fit the royal image.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Maria on November 01, 2013, 04:43:22 pm
Wasty is way out of her depth, and wimpo should have known she would be  -  he possibly did and didn´t care.  She has no etiquette, no class, she is dull and has no conversation, just like wimpo.  She had many years to learn how to behave, and in fact common sense, if she had any, would have helped her along. She also had access to lots of people who would have been willing to help her, but no, wasty knew best. So much knowledge and expertise available to her but she has ignored it all along the line.. She stands up to the rf through wimpo, she throws a wobbly, makes his life hell, ah my poor wasty, can´t see her upset, they upset my mother, he throws a paddy, gets stubborn, protocol out of the window and to hell with everyone  Wasty is very thick skinned, she knows it all, and if she wanted to face out HM I actually think she would, trouble is I think she has a fair idea she would not win, hence her using wimpo to get her own way.  Unfortunately for her the rf took it for quite a while, but no longer it would seem.  Would wimpo have an affair, most definitely yes, he may well already have had a few flings for all we know, they were (are) apart and awful lot. All those hunting weekends hmmmm, can get up to all sorts, always women hanging around ready to throw themselves at these guys. Wasty might raise hell, but she won´t walk out, too scared to. She will make his life hell, and the more she does that the more he will do his own thing.  Going to be a pretty miserable life for her.  She should do herself a favour and run, as fast as she can, away from that lot, they are bad news for her, she will never be accepted, and a lot of it has to do with her own behaviour.

 :goodpost:    Soo true. Willy and Waity lived seperately for the most part of their marriage when it wasn´t necessary at all! Jobless Kate could have lived with her husband all the time, but she didn´t. During pregnancy a woman needs more comfort and support. Well, Kate got it all....from Mummy not her husband! And now, since their move into Kensington Palace, Willy leaves as much as he can although he´s taking a "gap year" to spend time with his baby.  :laugh:

I´m sure Willy only talks about George and Kate during these awfully long "hunting weekends" he HAS to spend with his friends - without George and Kate.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 02, 2013, 02:14:31 am
Thing is, that William will have an affair if he wants; Kate is not in a position to argue and she's been putting on the same tiring ingenue act pretty much since the day after she modeled in lingerie and got caught topless. She has no respect for herself and William as a result has no respect for her; why should he?

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She should do herself a favour and run, as fast as she can, away from that lot, they are bad news for her, she will never be accepted, and a lot of it has to do with her own behaviour.

She can't run mainly since she would have nowhere to go; who would have her? She would end up having her mother disown her, her newly acquired class shun her worse than Diana, and her former class shut her out because of her blatant rejection of them. The press would end up having a Fergie Field Day against her and she would never work.

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Would wimpo have an affair, most definitely yes, he may well already have had a few flings for all we know, they were (are) apart and awful lot.

Not surprising; she no longer has to be his official girlfriend and she no longer has to worry about him marrying someone else.

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She had many years to learn how to behave, and in fact common sense, if she had any, would have helped her along. She also had access to lots of people who would have been willing to help her, but no, wasty knew best. So much knowledge and expertise available to her but she has ignored it all along the line..

Thing is that Kate was maybe hoping for the "Diana Effect" where even her most brainless mistakes would be seen as charming. Thankfully the public is tired of grown women acting like a teenager and saw through her right away and she is realizing that she has to work for it now, not just coast through.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: TeamCC on November 02, 2013, 03:43:47 am
Asking Jecca about proposing to Kate is a slap in the face to Jecca and all those years of friendship. There might not be adultery (I don't think Jecca is the type), but I don't forget that it was Kenya where William proposed and on the very Craig estate that Jecca's family owns. William is a complete *fool* and blind as a bat.
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Also, I will never forget the way Kate smiled at Jecca when walking back down the aisle.
Smug wench.
I believe William might have felt ashamed about it and I imagine Jecca's father was wounded; all those years of friendship and go figure, he proposes to another woman (Kate of all women) on the very property where Jecca's family lives and maintains. He should stay married to Kate for that alone as penance.
So he actually proposed on her friend's family home????  :ick:
One does not propose at another Lady's family property. This is basic
human decency. Nobody needs to be born a Prince to know that.  :thumbsup:
How low and crass is that? bignono
Where did he learn these methods of operations only found in the most abject criminals
who have had to do the most abject things in their lives to get ahead or survive within
a criminal world? Surely a BORN PRINCE  - learned about what is below human
being or what type of acts are  below animal behaviors.  
Surely a BORN PRINCE - knows how not to get involved with people who
have behaviors that would even shame animals.
Where did he learn to degrade himself like that?
Just for everybody to learn, where did the education of a PRINCE went wrong
for him to act like the most evil and abject criminal ? We all need to learn lessons of
what to avoid.  May his behaviour be a teaching lesson for us all.
Let us learn how to avoid degrading ourselves.
If he had mental illness or degenerescence from birth, this could be understandable.
Otherwise, many lessons can be learned here.
God bless meritocratic based education.
Amen to meritocracy.


Title: Re: Do you think it's possible that William would ever have an affair?
Post by: serene grace on November 02, 2013, 02:17:20 pm
I think Willy is like a Walker in "The Walking Dead" he runs by instinct and instinct only, meaning, if someone says NO! then he automatically does it.  Considering the genes he was born with, Chuck's, it is a matter of when not if he has an affair.  Waity is like the humans in "The Walking Dead" she is there to be devoured by him, her personality, drive, ambition were all obliterated by this relationship and now that she has the ring and the palace, even if she is scared poopless of living in it, she will live her life based on the instinct to keep her poshy life, survival of the most opulent. 
This relationship is so toxic, there never was a chance for it to have honor and fidelity and integrity.  None of these words are part of Willy's life and Waity does not care as long as the black Amex is still open to her.  

 :thumbsup:

Remember he said he listens to the Courtier's and then does the "opposite."


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on September 23, 2014, 04:08:22 pm
OK it is CDL but still: Why would Rebecca Deacon be going to Malta when Waity was allegedly desperately clinging on to life?
Isn't she supposed to take care of Waity instead of Wimpo?
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2014/prince-william-cheating-kate-middleton-assistant-rebecca-deacon-malta/

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/144370050-prince-william-duke-of-cambridge-rebecca-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=Z0zsWpN2ukUDXYqF4boPJXZOBreZZmpP1E1vb7J%2F1HprRSDJvsqK%2BVcvaSc511Gs
Wimpo and Rebecca having fun while Waity walks isolated.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: kolkomilko on September 23, 2014, 04:24:09 pm
Rebecca has a boyfriend. She's helping with things to Wills now instead of Waity.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on September 23, 2014, 04:45:41 pm
Just a thought, maybe she's working only for W now. Since PC cut Waity's budget, it's possible that he decided that she doesn't need that much staff anymore (including an assistant). She's not working, so no assistant anymore. As for an affair, I personally suspect that something is going on between him and Jecca (his decision to work at the base at Cambridge, the hunting trips, etc.).


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: theduchess on September 23, 2014, 06:43:34 pm
I thought she worked for both of them so to speak but ended up babysitting WK more then PW. I suppose CM has moved in to care for the poor cupcake, as for PW I don't think he has a Camilla but I don't think I would be surprised if he has one nighters.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: empirestate on September 23, 2014, 07:40:37 pm
^He'd need a Camilla. One nighters, even from within his social circle, leave a trail. People talk, the more involved the more likely it leaks.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on September 24, 2014, 04:48:54 pm
That site gets more ridiculous by the Day ...


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on September 24, 2014, 04:56:24 pm
Nobody would have guessed Arnold Schwarzenegger was banging his maid.  People sometimes seek affection close by when they are deprived. 

 :akasha:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on September 24, 2014, 05:29:05 pm
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Yup. And I wonder why Waity needs an assistant? She doesn't work and doesn't take care of the child (we know that she's exploiting the nanny/nannies). Perhaps to get her coffee from Starb*cks and carry her shopping bags?  :laugh:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on September 24, 2014, 06:47:54 pm
^  Spot on!  And there's eyeliner inventory management.   :tehe:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on September 24, 2014, 07:39:06 pm
Anything is possible, I can't see why Wimpo would claim Waity's personal assistant. :dontknow:

She changed a lot.
From a chubby frumpy dresser
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rebecca+Deacon+2012+London+Paralympics+Day+DJqN4hjs_osl.jpg
To this when alone with Wimpo in Malta.
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/126519PCN_Prince20.jpg


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on September 24, 2014, 08:14:39 pm
@Pepe:
Yes, an important task for the assistant! She must have hundreds of black eyeliners... another important task could be to sort them by the 'different shades of black'  :laugh:

@Stephanie:
I agree, anything is possible. You never know. Didn't Wimpo have a male assistant? I remember that they hired someone for him a while ago. Or maybe I'm wrong, I'm not sure.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 24, 2014, 10:03:52 pm
There are reasons for an affair:

1. Disillusionment - Hates the person the spouse has become; happens a lot when men marry women of a lower social set and the women start being as hoity-toity as possible. In no way is William happy with his new more royal than thou duchess and her pretentious ("titles and money only") family.

2. He's a jerk - William is a jerk, but it's not like Kate didn't know this after dating for ten freaking years.

3. Lack of a love life - Nothing is happening behind closed doors and surely, Kate has likely gone all Puritan on him; starting with the engagement period when she stopped all intercourse until the wedding night, to make the wedding night more 'special.'

4. Need for adult company/emotional connection - With his wife going to her mother's house all the time I am certain that he's eager for a mature adult connection.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: ohmy on September 25, 2014, 12:39:34 am
i have feeling that these two have an "understanding" in this "arrangement. i wouldn't call it an open relationship, as it seems he has all of the options and she maintains her position.
so if he is she other/others, it's not an affair.
by the way, william looks rat


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 25, 2014, 12:51:17 am
Either way, Kate consents to stay; ironic since Diana who was of the best blood decided to effectively refuse to be a long suffering in silence wifey. I mean, Kate was supposedly going to provide this nice comfortable middle class atmosphere and now she couldn't care as long as it does not threaten the marriage. Sad all around.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Jane23 on September 25, 2014, 09:00:02 am
^ That is not exactly how it went down ... in 1986 Chuck was with Cam , Di was doing Hewitt and Cam's husband was doing God knows whom everybody was happy ... until HEWITT broke the spell by ditching Di for his incredible carer and that is when Di became a vengeful witch because she became resentful of the fact C & C were happy ... as for Willy ... it's not in those people's style to do the help he will cheat with someone like Jecca (keep an eye on her  8)) ...


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on September 25, 2014, 09:03:47 am
Hewitt was a soldier he had to go where he was sent really not like he had a whole lot of choice - when he comes back Di drops him cold didn't she?

Agree though That Will is not having any sort of affair with staff - I am not saying he is incapable of an affair - I think not at this time - but I also doubt Jecca -


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on September 25, 2014, 03:43:09 pm
For me, it's only a matter of time for PW to take on an affair.  His parental examples are more than enough for him to think, when the going gets tough for him, that it's an option.  No matter how much he must have hated what he saw as a child, that mindset sits like a coiled snake waiting for an opportunity to spring. 

He wouldn't get much good advice that would be taken seriously from his dad because I truly believe PC thought that was Situation Normal.  He's got everything in place to allow that to happen:  Unconditional enabling, bad examples, lack of real inner strength and, most importantly, no sense of direction.

Plus, he shows all the signs of a control freak to me.  And if you scratch a control freak you'll eventually find either an emotional/physical abuser or a philanderer. 



Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on September 25, 2014, 04:39:30 pm
^ That is not exactly how it went down ... in 1986 Chuck was with Cam , Di was doing Hewitt and Cam's husband was doing God knows whom everybody was happy ... until HEWITT broke the spell by ditching Di for his incredible carer and that is when Di became a vengeful witch because she became resentful of the fact C & C were happy ... as for Willy ... it's not in those people's style to do the help he will cheat with someone like Jecca (keep an eye on her  8)) ...

Hewitt did not ditch Diana Diana ditched  him.

Camilla was cheating on her spouse with Charles before Diana came along.

I guess a wife is a "witch" when she does not like another woman butting in. Yeah right.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on September 25, 2014, 04:42:05 pm
Hewitt was a soldier he had to go where he was sent really not like he had a whole lot of choice - when he comes back Di drops him cold didn't she?

Agree though That Will is not having any sort of affair with staff - I am not saying he is incapable of an affair - I think not at this time - but I also doubt Jecca -

cate Hewitt and Diana both knew there could be nothing permanent since divorce was discouraged back then. It was a matter of time that they split.  Hewitt still behaved like a worm and Diana did not "ask for it"  when he went for the gold and sold her out. Diana dropped Hewitt from her circle in 1994 (they were not lovers after 1991).

I doubt the Cambridges would ever divorce but eventually could very well lead separate lives.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on September 25, 2014, 04:53:48 pm
Hewitt was a soldier he had to go where he was sent really not like he had a whole lot of choice - when he comes back Di drops him cold didn't she?

Agree though That Will is not having any sort of affair with staff - I am not saying he is incapable of an affair - I think not at this time - but I also doubt Jecca -

cate Hewitt and Diana both knew there could be nothing permanent since divorce was discouraged back then. It was a matter of time that they split. He was back from his tour of duty when he and Diana resumed their relationship in 1991.  Hewitt still behaved like a worm and Diana did not "ask for it"  when he went for the gold and sold her out. Diana dropped Hewitt from her circle in 1994 (they were not lovers after 1991).

I doubt the Cambridges would ever divorce but eventually could very well lead separate lives.



Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on September 25, 2014, 04:58:04 pm
^, ^^, ^^^Off topic, Sandy, and TRIPLE posting. You get a warning. YM


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on September 25, 2014, 05:54:23 pm
Yooper, how do I post? I have trouble getting the several quotes into one message.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on September 25, 2014, 08:03:46 pm
^You shouldn't, Sandy.  I'm really confused why people say they're getting timed out.  Until you hit post you have unlimited time unless you go to another thread, hit preview or someone else is posting at the same time.  So, pm me, Sandy and guide me through exactly what you're doing and I'll remove the warning.  Thank you.  YM


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on September 25, 2014, 08:29:51 pm


Plus, he shows all the signs of a control freak to me.  And if you scratch a control freak you'll eventually find either an emotional/physical abuser or a philanderer. 


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he definitely looks like a control type to me also - I'd guess with so little control over what was happening in his childhood home - that set the stage for his control freakdom - I'd though say he is more the emotional abuser type - it sometimes seems to me that he does that to Kate - embarrasses her - is cutting and abrupt with her - you can tell in pics/video sometimes that she is very upset or embarrassed because of something he has said to her -



Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2014, 12:18:09 am
If he is having an affair, it might be with Jecca or some other upper class girl who can unseat her.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on October 06, 2014, 12:50:29 pm
Much rather have Jecca than waity, that is for sure.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 06, 2014, 01:08:31 pm
It is Obvious that Jecca would have been a much better spouse for William. But if she would start an affair with William now, Jecca would loose all my sympathy. No matter how much I despise Kate, I feel that a woman who starts an affair with a married man is at the absolute bottom of the barrel.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 06, 2014, 04:55:34 pm
Fully agree; marriage is marriage and it's not like Jecca didn't have a chance beforehand.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on October 06, 2014, 06:06:36 pm
Maybe Jecca saw red flags and did not want WIlliam.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on October 06, 2014, 06:33:10 pm
If anybody 'starts' an affair with PW he's equally involved here.  For me, the blame is definitely a shared experience.   I have no doubt that he will eventually do this.  His family history is too strong and his brain, such as it is, would digest this and know that it will be ok with his family. 

It seems to be their natural go-to release valve instead of facing their problems. 


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on October 06, 2014, 06:45:14 pm
William can play the hearts and flowers routine that his theoretical mistress is the love of his life and he is entitled to his happiness. He can enlist his friends to help him and his mistress.  He is self entitled and arrogant  already and he certainly can do this if he wants a mistress.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: mrharrywales on October 06, 2014, 07:13:46 pm
Anything is possible, I can't see why Wimpo would claim Waity's personal assistant. :dontknow:

She changed a lot.
From a chubby frumpy dresser
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Rebecca+Deacon+2012+London+Paralympics+Day+DJqN4hjs_osl.jpg
To this when alone with Wimpo in Malta.
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/126519PCN_Prince20.jpg

I don't think she's changed so much. I think we should take in consideration that in the Olympics she was dressed down because the occasion was up for it. In the other hand she had to dress up to the malta visit because it was an official engagement and she was accompanying the Duke of Cambridge.
She did lose some weight but honestly, the Malta visit had nothing to do with it. She was way chubbier in 2012 and you don't lose so much weight like she did over night.

Now, regards to William be cheating on Kate with Jecca, I don't think it's either true or possible. There is no point on Jecca being his mistress. She could have married him, and I don't think she's the kind of woman who would settle for ''the other woman'' title.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 06, 2014, 08:23:33 pm
If anybody 'starts' an affair with PW he's equally involved here.  For me, the blame is definitely a shared experience.   I have no doubt that he will eventually do this.  His family history is too strong and his brain, such as it is, would digest this and know that it will be ok with his family. 

It seems to be their natural go-to release valve instead of facing their problems. 

Agreed. But William cannot loose my respect in case of him having an affair...I have no respect for the whiner. None.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Emperor on October 06, 2014, 10:55:30 pm
^  :sigh:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 24, 2014, 10:25:52 am
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/wp-content/uploads/FFN_FLYUK_Middleton_Kate_102314_515658691.jpg
:Carole:
Isn't that Rebecca Deacon behind Waity?
Slimmer then Waity, dressed similar, shorter hemline, more sophisticated hairstyle and... covered in gold!
Several massive golden bracelets, necklace and earrings.
Now who gave her all those jewels one wonders.
As usual Wasty's dress looks cheap and badly tailored, no jewels to speak of.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on October 24, 2014, 03:49:27 pm
^
Interesting. Just a thought... what if she is copying Rebecca? I mean, she used to copy the women who are very close to W (for example Jecca). Perhaps Rebecca bought that dress first and K wanted the same, but it was sold out? Hence she tried to find a similar one. Yes, the lack of nice jewellery is also noticeable.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 24, 2014, 05:35:07 pm
You can always tell who Whino might be cheating with: Wasty copies her style.
Remember Jecca.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on October 24, 2014, 07:10:15 pm
^
It's also interesting what you said about Rebecca's jewellery. The salary of the royal staff doesn't seem to be high (according to sources), and yet she is able to afford nice things like expensive jewellery (and the expensive clothes).


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: archduchess on October 24, 2014, 07:22:22 pm
I don't think that William is having an affair with Rebecca.
Imagine it may be the case I doubt Kate would ignore it, copy Rebeccas style and pretend it didn't happen.
Kate would eliminate her.  :Kate:  She can't do nothing against Jecca but with Rebecca it's a different matter.
By the way:
I think Rebecca and Kate look very much alike.
She looks more like Kate than Pippa.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on October 24, 2014, 07:42:30 pm
women get those "death stares" from Kate.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 24, 2014, 07:49:54 pm
I don't know if he's affair-ing or not, but for the sake of arguing, if he is affair-ing and affair-ing with Rebecca, than Kate can't do anything because William calls the shots. If he doesn't want Rebecca going anywhere than she's not going anywhere. He was the one who hired her in the first place, if I'm not mistaken. Let's not forget she's really an "assistant" lol. She's just all of a sudden be seen "assisting" William more and more, IMO.

She's surely not going to go around leaking any rumors to the press about him cheating or possibly cheating, because then it would destroy the image all of them have fronted, of them being a fairytale romance and William being a dedicated husband and father. Look at 2007 when they broke up and he was in the club shouting I'm free and she was walking around like a fool. I doubt she'd put herself in the position of being made to look a fool (okay we all know that's not completely true because she's just so stupid and is always making a fool of her own damn self) of herself by putting it out there that she's being passed over for the assistant.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 24, 2014, 08:09:27 pm
I's definitely a possiblilty.
Who would have EVER thought that Chuck was cheating on Diana with old hag Campon?

Why would Wimpo need Waity's assistant to go to Malta?
He has his own assistant, no need for her to go.

Sitting in a boat having a great time with Wimpo.

http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5800-2/photos/5823842.jpg

This IMO is totally uncalled for.
Creating a mini Waity moment by exposing lots of leg in front of her employer.
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/455859454-rebecca-deacon-on-the-boat-with-prince-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7Qe%2fAlCI%2fj9u2q4SqolfYrChIcqZ9IQi%2fUEZB7jkeGDDMQrCEcP1v76h490Fy9DC%2fNg%3d%3d


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 24, 2014, 08:28:04 pm

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I don't know if he's affair-ing or not, but for the sake of arguing, if he is affair-ing and affair-ing with Rebecca, than Kate can't do anything because William calls the shots. If he doesn't want Rebecca going anywhere than she's not going anywhere. He was the one who hired her in the first place, if I'm not mistaken. Let's not forget she's really an "assistant" lol. She's just all of a sudden be seen "assisting" William more and more, IMO.

How very old school of William; modern equivalent of hiring a woman the prince is interested in keeping as a mistress as a lady-in-waiting to the wife and making the wife toe the line whether she likes it or not. So now Kate, like any Victorian/medieval lady, has to tolerate her husband's whim whether she likes it or not. Well, Kate wants to be William's doormat, let her be the doormat. Welcome to the reality of such a life Duchess.

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She's surely not going to go around leaking any rumors to the press about him cheating or possibly cheating, because then it would destroy the image all of them have fronted, of them being a fairytale romance and William being a dedicated husband and father. Look at 2007 when they broke up and he was in the club shouting I'm free and she was walking around like a fool. I doubt she'd put herself in the position of being made to look a fool (okay we all know that's not completely true because she's just so stupid and is always making a fool of her own damn self) of herself by putting it out there that she's being passed over for the assistant.

She cannot afford to make her husband angry; he's already ungenerous towards her in regards to jewels and has hacked her clothing budget. So I can only think that there is an affair. Princes and Kings would sometimes treat their mistresses more lavishly than they did their wives, if the wives displeased them.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 24, 2014, 08:38:07 pm
Reminds me of Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 24, 2014, 08:42:30 pm
Along with Anne Boleyn and Jane Seymour and countless of other women throughout history; ironic how Kate and William would be this modern royal couple, but both are completely regressive. Now Kate is likely experiencing the drawbacks of being a powerless royal consort and I don't think she likes being powerless at all.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 24, 2014, 08:46:53 pm
Don't forget though, Kuei Fei, Wasty in the same position her own self, it's not as though Willy Boy married her because he loves her or for her nonexistent vast knowledge of art or out of his duty to honor an arranged marriage that was going to offer some benefit to his royal house and country. So really, it would be him just starting to expand his collection of mistresses.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 24, 2014, 08:47:40 pm
The question is: where are they?
Rebecca is definitely not with Wasty at Ma's so what's she been doing for the past weeks?
Wimpo as usual is nowhere to be found. :cookie:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 24, 2014, 09:21:42 pm
Don't forget though, Kuei Fei, Wasty in the same position her own self, it's not as though Willy Boy married her because he loves her or for her nonexistent vast knowledge of art or out of his duty to honor an arranged marriage that was going to offer some benefit to his royal house and country. So really, it would be him just starting to expand his collection of mistresses.

You're right; Kate is a mistress who made good.

Kate was no convent bred innocent, she had more experience than most her age by the time she met William and I dislike how she's put up a front of innocence. She wasn't virginal when she paraded herself on the catwalk and she wasn't virginal when she was cohabiting with William during university (leeching).

If he hadn't married her in 2011, she would still be his girlfriend, probably openly mocked and derided as his mistress.

I think she hit the 'mistress mark' when she stopped working completely. Promise or no promise, I believe that she should have been prepared and taken some pride in how she was presenting herself and being ready for her role as a royal duchess instead of looking for someone to guide her and take care of her all the time.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on October 25, 2014, 02:44:02 am
affairs require too much effort for Will


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 25, 2014, 04:31:17 am
What effort? We never see William, we never know where he's at, what he's doing, who he's with, or what he's doing with who. It wouldn't take much effort at all for him to cheat and keep it all under wraps, especially if it was someone as close as Rebecca.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on October 25, 2014, 04:51:30 am
affairs require more than keeping it secret - you have to actually have a relationship with someone - you have to make a real effort to keep someone especially since 1) it must be secret so the woman has a lot of deprivation - no date for the party that sort of thing  you have to compensate her for that by making her feel important needed 2) you now have to placate two females instead of one 3)  the other woman knows if she is revealed many will revile her so you have to deal also with her guilt her fear etc

Will would actually have to provide reassurance - comfort - affection - a sense that she is more than a sex outlet to him - a whole list of emotional things that he clearly in every way lacks the capacity to do

Recall - this guy could not get himself another female who would be his wife - being the mistress is less rewarding - think he finds that many takers?  Think he would actually knock himself out that way?  Maybe a professional - but not a mistress


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Pepe Le Skew on October 25, 2014, 06:33:34 am
I's definitely a possiblilty.
Who would have EVER thought that Chuck was cheating on Diana with old hag Campon?

Why would Wimpo need Waity's assistant to go to Malta?
He has his own assistant, no need for her to go.

Sitting in a boat having a great time with Wimpo.

http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/5800-2/photos/5823842.jpg

This IMO is totally uncalled for.
Creating a mini Waity moment by exposing lots of leg in front of her employer.
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/455859454-rebecca-deacon-on-the-boat-with-prince-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7Qe%2fAlCI%2fj9u2q4SqolfYrChIcqZ9IQi%2fUEZB7jkeGDDMQrCEcP1v76h490Fy9DC%2fNg%3d%3d

WOW!  There is more chemistry in that gaze than I've ever seen between Skate & Will.  These two are totally doing each other.  Her expression is very knowing.  She's more attractive and confident than Kate, too.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Rosella on October 25, 2014, 07:11:54 am
Celebrity Dirty Laundry (where the Rebecca Deacon story emanated from) is so reliable, not! Kate was known for dagger eyes at any female who came near Will. Now apparently she is quite OK with William making Rebecca his mistress and taking her to Malta.

 There is a photo of Harry laughing with Rebecca at the Olympics and sitting next to her. Is he carrying on with her as well? Does Rebecca's boyfriend Nick, who works at KP, know about this?


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: camilapitanga on October 25, 2014, 08:02:35 am
I think william is having na affair as he has done many times while dating kate.My opinion.But i dont think is with this girl at all.She just not his type.Not being mean but shes not as atractive as any girls william was ever linked shes also a bit overweight and thats defiatelly not wills style  bignono
Unless he has weird side he hides (some mens does anyway they go in public with a certain kinda of women but enjoys the opposite in secret yeah weird but happens a lot) and inetad of anorexic girls he seems to like in public he goes for the chubby old looking ones in private.It can happen actually.

But i doubt whathever "type" of women he would choose he would go for someone so close to both.I still put my bets he has something with jecca or someone similar to her.And he will keep it very private for a long time.I do anyway think is creepy that she looks excatlly like kate or kate looks like her.But maybe that means shes as closer to kate as people imagine.All the midds looks the same in how they are and act and dress.Just saying.If the women is at this point of dressing exactlly liike kate it tells me shes kates bff and not williams mistress.But who knows.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 25, 2014, 01:47:49 pm
1. Not every woman wants some deep relationship that involves a guy taking her out to parties and being seen on his arm. Some women just want a sugar daddy.
2. If he's spending all of his time with mistress #2, because we sure as hell know he's not spending it with Kate, I don't see how she'd feel less important
3. All you have to do is look at Camilla to see not every woman feels guilt over their actions.
4. Kate is nothing but a mistress that got the ring, so mistress #2 would be in the same boat and probably more realistic in regards to who William is and what he expects.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on October 25, 2014, 02:21:55 pm
http://38.media.tumblr.com/56377e8c5ffae1c955db0a5b4f8a4af3/tumblr_ndyo26J76i1qzwoilo1_500.png
Looking none too happy in the car with Rebecca!


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: windsor2 on October 25, 2014, 03:07:35 pm
It's odd that Rebecca would dress and have her hair done just like Waity. The picture looks like a mirror image. Weird.  :nervous:


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 26, 2014, 02:46:26 am
1. Not every woman wants some deep relationship that involves a guy taking her out to parties and being seen on his arm. Some women just want a sugar daddy.
2. If he's spending all of his time with mistress #2, because we sure as hell know he's not spending it with Kate, I don't see how she'd feel less important
3. All you have to do is look at Camilla to see not every woman feels guilt over their actions.
4. Kate is nothing but a mistress that got the ring, so mistress #2 would be in the same boat and probably more realistic in regards to who William is and what he expects.

If she's content, why is she withering? There's a difference between thinking you can handle a loveless match, to actually living it and yes, it kills you. Kate wouldn't be so miserable looking or looking like she's deteriorating if she were content with her life as a wife in a loveless match. As for Camilla, I think she's living more luxuriously than Kate is and I think if Kate were smothered in jewels, she would in fact be looking more content, but Kate is treated shabbily. I think she's bad off because she's very aware that her husband is no longer under her thumb and of course, if she loses his affection she will be finished off completely. Any woman with a career and connections is a major threat, I'm certain of it.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 26, 2014, 02:01:55 am
^ That post was in regards to why Rebecca would possibly be okay with being mistress #2 and how William would be able to keep up with it, not Kate.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Mandosiel on October 26, 2014, 06:54:05 pm
I think william is having na affair as he has done many times while dating kate.My opinion.But i dont think is with this girl at all.She just not his type.Not being mean but shes not as atractive as any girls william was ever linked shes also a bit overweight and thats defiatelly not wills style  bignono
Unless he has weird side he hides (some mens does anyway they go in public with a certain kinda of women but enjoys the opposite in secret yeah weird but happens a lot) and inetad of anorexic girls he seems to like in public he goes for the chubby old looking ones in private.It can happen actually.

But i doubt whathever "type" of women he would choose he would go for someone so close to both.I still put my bets he has something with jecca or someone similar to her.And he will keep it very private for a long time.I do anyway think is creepy that she looks excatlly like kate or kate looks like her.But maybe that means shes as closer to kate as people imagine.All the midds looks the same in how they are and act and dress.Just saying.If the women is at this point of dressing exactlly liike kate it tells me shes kates bff and not williams mistress.But who knows.

Actually Rebecca is very much William's type, he was quoted to "like the look of Beyoncé" when he was younger, and when he met Kate she was curvier than she is now, it was her own stupid idea to starve herself into a stick. So if he really is going to Rebecca for "curvy comforts" I wouldn't be surprised. He's continually reported to be worried about Kate's weight, there has to be a grain of truth in that otjerwise it wouldn't continue cropping up the way it does. It's probably one of the reasons he's lost interest in her. Rebecca looks enough like Kate to where it would please him and has nice natural curves. :dontknow: I wouldn't be surprised at all if she was his mistress.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on October 26, 2014, 09:18:55 pm
^ Exactly Mandosiel! If he is, I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit either. I wouldn't approve of course but I wouldn't be surprised. I've said it before, that out of anything, William surprisingly, isn't very superficial or flashy. He doesn't come across as the type that would need a trophy wife to make him happy. He also seems to go for natural. From what I can tell, none of the women he's been linked to, have looked to be someone's overdone nightmare Barbie and still aren't. Why Kate looks, acts, and dresses the way she does now, for reasons still unknown, is completely to do with her, not William.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: MelissaRose on October 26, 2014, 11:24:17 pm
I agree, Williams's past girlfriends were all bright and ambitious women with great work ethics. With Kate it was a matter of settling, the more career focused women tend to shun the prospect of Royal life.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 12:49:37 am
Thing is, bright career oriented types prefer that their possible beaux be single for a while and not freshly broken up. As long as Kate was hanging around, surely they saw a possible huge conflict and not any kind of stability. William should have broken it off and remained single for a while before trying to court someone else. He should have let Kate burn herself out and scuttle back to Berkshire and then taken a powder to a different country and end up clearing his head and stepping into his new life.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Pense on October 27, 2014, 03:16:48 am
Some distant Canadian relatives on Dad's side of the family visited & stayed four days including this weekend. We talked about a lot of things and my Dad jokes that I follow the BRF as "if it really mattered any more." Much to my surprise, the Canadian cousins say that it shouldn't matter anymore. QE2 should be the last monarch. Let the aristocratic system devolve into a bunch of landholders paying taxes like everyone else. Kate's pregnancy was brought up and evoked a 'yeah, and' response. The 'girls' commented that she seems unsuited to her role and that her husband appears to ignore her awkwardness even after 3 years time. The Canadian husband, who had been quietly listening to several conversations, speaks up and says that PW should have courted and married the sister of one of his upper class friends. Before W did that, he should have found someone amenable in the financial field to meet and marry K. Then, once everyone was settled, he could keep K as a mistress, her husband could work and ignore her, and W's wife could do what the upper class does and find her own paramour. Everybody has the attention they need, the social status they sought and financial security.

I looked at cousin's wife because I wondered what she thought of his comment. She agreed. Said that K was a mistress, should have stayed a mistress and that K's behavior and lack of support for the BRF's activities and agenda are an embarrassment to the Commonwealth countries. W&K are the argument for dispensing with monarchy. I was shocked because these Canadians had been more or less supportive of the Queen. However, over the last 3 years, W's avoidance of entry into royal duties, K's embarrassing exhibitionist episodes (their words, not mine) and lack of support for existing BRF charities, the vacation lifestyle of Andrew & family, and the perceived lack of direction by QE has convinced them that there is no point anymore to the continuation of a monarchy. The husband felt that standards have slipped since the QM's passing. QM wasn't right all the time but she kept the business of monarchy in line.

There was more and we talked further about how the BRF figures into their life, economy and politics. The cousins joked about having another WAG in the BRF married to a royal son who never bothered to find something to do once it was clear that being a king had long passed. Both of them are of the opinion that W will follow in his father's footsteps. The difference this time is that the wife won't complain. She may, in time, find someone to keep her occupied once the children are away at school. They question why they should support a monarchy that is so out of step with modern life, that it can't even control its members to maintain the dignity of the monarchy and seem to have no plan to move members into active work until Charles becomes king. The Canadian relatives left for home and I have been mulling over what they said and wondering how other members of the Commonwealth feel about QE's grandchild generation.
 :dontknow:



Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 03:23:46 am
I wonder how Kate really feels.

She has no power to complain, has no influence, but hasn't been able to have an affair since after all, the BRF would LEAP on it to use against her.

As for mistressing, no way would anyone want Kate as William's mistress since as Camilla demonstrated, a Windsor wife is no longer secure if a mistress wants her out.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on October 27, 2014, 03:30:41 am
^^
Good post Pense.

I don't think that William is having an affair at the moment. I do though think that it will happen at some stage especially if Kate is going back and forth to Bucklebury.

It will be interesting to see how things pan out in a few years. At the time of the engagement a bishop gave the marriage seven years and then had to apologise. He may not be far off. Perhaps not a total breakdown but a gradual drifting. 


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 03:32:29 am
Here is a thread if anyone wants to speculate about divorce: http://royalgossip.forumprofi.de/index.php/topic,7785.0.html

I do think that if Kate refuses to go back to Kensington Palace and take up her duties she will in fact end up losing her husband. If not to another woman, but to life that will pass her by in general.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on October 27, 2014, 03:51:45 am
thanks Pense that was interesting.


I know a lot of Canadians - we have a Canadian office which I travel to often and for years. I do not know a single Canadian who wants the monarchy to continue in Canada.  They simply do not see the logic of it.  They do want their relationship with Britain to be maintained but that can happen within the context of the Commonwealth.

It is not that I am at all a fan of Kate and especially not a fan of Will - I just give a lot of weight to the RF's past experience with the Fergie-Andrew debacle and of course the awfulness of the Charles-Camilla split and I do think they would do anything to avoid repeat of that.  Especially when the Queen is still with us - Will I think would not want to disturb the last years of her reign with that sort of fuss.  So I just do not see a divorce happening while HM is around.  Now since divorce is common nowadays and the ice was broken by Anne Charles and Andrew it may be a divorce would not be such a big mess or shock this time.  But I still think because of the Queen - that they will stick with it. 




Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kit on October 27, 2014, 04:09:36 am
An affair or affairs?  Probably.

With Rebecca?  No.  She was in Malta bc she was slated to go with Kate.  Therefore everything was organized and arranged by Rebecca so she accompanied Wm. 

Rebecca is if anything more like a Carole and she knows how to manage Wm.

Obviously it's not difficult for any woman with half a brain to manage and control the Windsor men.  Camilla, Carole, and Fergie are perfect examples. 

I don't think Rebecca and Wm are having an affair.  She's seen him at his worse and it seems like those who know him best are completely uninterested.





Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Pense on October 27, 2014, 04:10:58 am
^^
...I don't think that William is having an affair at the moment. I do though think that it will happen at some stage especially if Kate is going back and forth to Bucklebury.

It will be interesting to see how things pan out in a few years. At the time of the engagement a bishop gave the marriage seven years and then had to apologise. He may not be far off. Perhaps not a total breakdown but a gradual drifting. 

That was one of the husband's points in conversation. K was not suitable as a wife but was suitable as a mistress. He also said, in other conversation, that she seems to abandon her role as wife, mother and director of household/home matters by decamping to her parents' home frequently. The Canadian cousins agreed on a division of responsibility and labor about family, household and financial matters between themselves. Household matters are the wife's domain as are social matters. He advises but she manages. Sometimes they have to accommodate each others work associates but they work as a unit for the benefit of their family. They admit that it isn't easy at times and there are conflicts over career priorities. The point is that they are a unit, working for the benefit of their family. They usually have the support of their parents, when needed, to meet their commitments. Sometimes it didn't work out but it happens. They marvel that these junior members of the BRF can't seem to make a plan, follow it and show some enthusiasm for their position and privilege. The cousins have no desire to see or meet any member of the BRF. They kid each other about school papers from their elementary school 'memory boxes' that write about meeting the royal family and what they would say or do. They say that their children don't think about the monarchy. W&K are celebrity news like KanyeKim BeyJZ and the other myriad of look-at-me celebs in the news.
 :-


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 04:31:45 am
It is not that I am at all a fan of Kate and especially not a fan of Will - I just give a lot of weight to the RF's past experience with the Fergie-Andrew debacle and of course the awfulness of the Charles-Camilla split and I do think they would do anything to avoid repeat of that.  Especially when the Queen is still with us - Will I think would not want to disturb the last years of her reign with that sort of fuss.  So I just do not see a divorce happening while HM is around.  Now since divorce is common nowadays and the ice was broken by Anne Charles and Andrew it may be a divorce would not be such a big mess or shock this time.  But I still think because of the Queen - that they will stick with it.

Yes, HM is the only reason Kate got that ring; the monarchy could 'afford' someone like Kate, because the monarchy is secure right now. As long as HM remains, Kate will get away with blue murder and enjoy her title. Yet, once HM is gone, the monarchy will be weak and Charles will not be indulgent.

An affair or affairs?  Probably.

With Rebecca?  No.  She was in Malta bc she was slated to go with Kate.  Therefore everything was organized and arranged by Rebecca so she accompanied Wm. 

Rebecca is if anything more like a Carole and she knows how to manage Wm.

Obviously it's not difficult for any woman with half a brain to manage and control the Windsor men.  Camilla, Carole, and Fergie are perfect examples. 

I don't think Rebecca and Wm are having an affair.  She's seen him at his worse and it seems like those who know him best are completely uninterested.

Yes; the real issue is that most women who manage men do it with the least best of intentions. These Windsor men are so weak, which makes them into such disasters as royals. Royals are supposed to be tougher than this, not the complete pansies they've turned out to be.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kit on October 27, 2014, 04:45:38 am
@ KF, it's interesting that the Queen's boys are such pansies.  Phillips no pushover but he isn't the King either.  I think the Windsor men are happy to let the woman take the lead in their relationships.  Unfortunately, the only women interested in this role aren't exactly up to par for a variety of reasons. 


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 08:52:22 am
You know, if William is having an affair, it would be a delicious irony if it were Jecca or someone upper class. Watching Seward's face as she tries to explain that one.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on October 27, 2014, 05:10:00 pm
What if he is using Rebecca in order to shatter the fake image of his 'perfect' marriage? I mean, she is always there in public (because she's the assistant) and flirting as well as other affectionate gestures would be immediately noticeable. Then rumours of an affair would emerge (just like now). Then, let's say after an official separation from Waity, he could be officially seen with Jecca in public. That way she wouldn't look like a homewrecker. Or if there is nothing going on between him and Jecca, he would be 'finally free' from the medds. It's just a thought... Of course it wouldn't be nice to use Rebecca and I'm against infidelity. But the thing is that affairs happen. No one believed that PC would cheat on PD with Campon, and yet it happened.

For now Waity is hanging on to the image of a 'perfect marriage' and without it she would be in trouble. The public is not on her side and she has no leverage within the rf. Hence she's trying to keep up the image.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 06:29:56 pm
She better start making her marriage real; marriages don't last forever on images.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: MelissaRose on October 27, 2014, 07:07:43 pm
William does seem pretty into this Rebecca, she looks like Wasty but with a healthier figure (and no doubt more going on upstairs).


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 27, 2014, 07:28:10 pm
I never understand why women like Kate push so hard for a man, but then treat the man cavalierly after they have the ring. If this keeps up William might indeed forget he's a married man and start running around with women. Kate couldn't do anything about it or take any moral high ground since after all, she will be known as ignoring her husband and likely ended up turning a blind eye for years while she was trying to get the ring. So no leverage in that area.

I remember reading how Anne Boleyn was told off by Henry VIII about how Anne would have to 'shut her eyes and endure as her betters have done' and frankly I think Kate is very close to being told off by William in that vein. She has no right to go all moral after all her stunts and her tarting. So I do think he's likely close to being interested in having an affair, if only to have his 'manly needs' met and it might be Rebecca, or might be someone hired for 'the job.'

Meaning that Kate will become vulnerable as a wife even if William tires of her puritanical airs and wants a warm bed. IF he bunnies around behind her back, she'll be to blame. I often never blame a woman for a man's messing around, but Kate's duties as a normal wife are to see to her man's needs and as a consort, make a real home for her husband.


Title: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CathyJane on October 27, 2014, 08:48:56 pm
Wouldn't it be funny if Willy was cheating with flat faced Pippy.  :P


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 17, 2014, 11:11:39 pm
I'm beginning to wonder if in fact William and Jecca are indeed having an affair, which to me would make William worse than his father.

At least Charles could claim he was restricted in his choices, but for William to cheat is inexcusable. William was never limited in who he was expected to marry and he had a decade with Kate to figure out if Kate was The One. So he has no reason and no excuse to end up cheating on anyone he chose to marry.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on November 18, 2014, 09:26:25 pm
It seems as if there are two possibilities...

a) He used K for ten years and never wanted to marry her. The medds pretended that they were the perfect family he never had and K provided free s*x for ten years. But he always stayed in touch with Jecca and probably wanted to marry her. But when he dumped K, she didn't want to accept it and forced him to marry her (some say that she blackmailed him). She stalked him and held an ultimatum. Hence he couldn't marry Jecca. This case would make K the 'intruder' who didn't want to accept that he simply didn't view her as 'wife material'. Otherwise he would have married her right away. Usually people get married quickly and have children. Why waiting for ten years?

Or

b)Jecca was and still is just a friend. Even though they had a 'pretend engagement' and he ignored K whenever Jecca was there. K even tried to get his attention by copying Jecca (dressed the same way).

A lot of facts indicate that they are having an affair. He is an absent father, he wanted to spend a long time in Africa after 'his son' was born, K is staying at Bucklebury, he didn't want to take K with him to NY, his sudden interest in wildlife, he is the patron of Jecca's charity, his trips with Jecca, etc. And his cold body language when they have joint engagements. And I believe possibility a) very likely happened. The medds are ruthless social climbers and W is their social/meal ticket. It's well documented that K stalked him and was desperate for the cursed blue ring.
Maybe I'm wrong about my guess that they are having an affair, but that's how it seems for now.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on November 19, 2014, 12:21:32 am
I think this would be a perfect moment to interject my possibility:

What if they're having an an emotional affair

I definitely think that Kate is William's Camilla but Jecca, on the other hand, seems like his everything. I think it's very possible, that given that she's adult enough, woman enough, and a decent enough person, that she'd turn him down intimately but if she truly loves him, it'd probably still be hard for her to kick him out of her life completely. On top of that, if William truly loves her, then he'd take whatever part of her and her life that she'd be willing to give him. So even if they're not having sex, just being together fills a deeper emotional connection that they just can't let go of and are content with (or at least tolerating).

Just another possibility, I wanted to throw out there.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 19, 2014, 02:32:04 am
I hope he has found real love with Jecca.  She would give him direction.  He married the posse's figurehead (whom i think does love him) but that group hunted him down for reasons other than love.  She has been used, mostly by her mother, but the rest of them have fed at the trough as well.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2014, 09:14:44 am
Love? So this will be the second 'love story of the century,' like Charles and Camilla's vaunted thwarted love? Jecca has no business messing with a married man, makes her worse than Camilla mainly since Camilla realistically didn't have a chance to end up Charles' wife due to the strictures surrounding expectations. Jecca apparently didn't want to marry him because of the demands and realistically this makes Jecca worse than Camilla. Jecca could have had William as a husband at the snap of her fingers and it would have made him happy, but Jecca refused him. So to me, there's no excuse.

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a) He used K for ten years and never wanted to marry her. The medds pretended that they were the perfect family he never had and K provided free s*x for ten years. But he always stayed in touch with Jecca and probably wanted to marry her. But when he dumped K, she didn't want to accept it and forced him to marry her (some say that she blackmailed him). She stalked him and held an ultimatum. Hence he couldn't marry Jecca. This case would make K the 'intruder' who didn't want to accept that he simply didn't view her as 'wife material'. Otherwise he would have married her right away. Usually people get married quickly and have children. Why waiting for ten years?

William let her in, at that level; no one made William date her long term and the thing is, that William was foolish to think that Kate would willingly leave of him of her own volition. He should have taken responsibility, manned up, and then dumped her and kept her firmly out of his life. He's an adult, could have used his unlimited resources to get her out, keep her out, and moved on in life courting and then marrying Jecca. There is and was no 'couldn't' in his life. As for the ten years, he had that full decade to get and keep Kate out. Date Kate for five years, break up with her, stay single for five years, and then move on with Jecca. He had plenty of chances.

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A lot of facts indicate that they are having an affair. He is an absent father, he wanted to spend a long time in Africa after 'his son' was born, K is staying at Bucklebury, he didn't want to take K with him to NY, his sudden interest in wildlife, he is the patron of Jecca's charity, his trips with Jecca, etc. And his cold body language when they have joint engagements. And I believe possibility a) very likely happened. The medds are ruthless social climbers and W is their social/meal ticket. It's well documented that K stalked him and was desperate for the cursed blue ring.
Maybe I'm wrong about my guess that they are having an affair, but that's how it seems for now.

This makes him as bad as his father; his father did the same and frankly put, he has no business messing around on his wife. No matter what, once you're married you owe full, FULL loyalty to your spouse. You want to be with someone else, you divorce, move on, take your lumps, then move on. Just don't do it while married.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on November 19, 2014, 09:50:24 am
Waity is permanently lodged at Manson Towers and that means that Wimpo has gone without sex and companionship for months and months on end.
Aged only 32 he is living like a divorced/widowed man with an empty bed and has to eat alone.
If that's not an open invitation for a mistress I don't know what is.
No way Waity and the Viper would let that happen voluntarily IMO.
I think Wimpo kicked Waity out because he wants a divorce and has his next wife waiting around the corner.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 19, 2014, 09:52:53 am
^^I totally agree KF.

Once you make that commitment and marry someone, whether or not in a religious ceremony, you don't mess around with others. Now if, at some point, the marriage collapses for whatever reason, you get a divorce. But fooling around within a marriage is a big no-no for me.

And some people may say 'but Jecca won't be the one cheating on a spouse', that makes little difference to me. I have a few rules when it comes to dating men and one of them, and the most important one, is that I never, NEVER, date someone who is still in a relationship (whether married or living together or whatever varieties there are). It is a can of worms I am just not willing to touch and I feel nothing but contempt for women (or men) who willingly wreck a family, no matter how much the cheating spouse willingly got along with it.

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that Wimpo has gone without sex and companionship for months and months on end
Makes you wonder how baby no. 2 got conceived doesn't it? Immaculate conception?  :laugh: Oh well, I guess it only takes a few seconds in the broom-closet of Manson Towers with Ma Midds keeping guard.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on November 19, 2014, 10:35:56 am
 :laugh:
That second "pregnancy" IMO is a desperate move from the Mansons.
But it isn't working.
Waity is still stalled at Doom's Dungeon and Wimpo hasn't taken her back.
He would rather be seen as an impotent loser then live with her and that says a lot about the state of their marriage.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2014, 11:13:17 am
I for one would be as against Jecca as I have been against Kate. Kate is his WIFE and has the right to a faithful spouse, with her marriage treated as sacrosanct. I do believe that if William messes this up, it will sabotage Harry's chances of finding a good decent wife for himself since it would make people leery about a daughter of their house being caught up in that mess.

Waity is permanently lodged at Manson Towers and that means that Wimpo has gone without sex and companionship for months and months on end. Aged only 32 he is living like a divorced/widowed man with an empty bed and has to eat alone.

Any idiot knows that Kate was going to be like this.

Cynical, but men and women do advertise; women who use their bodies often end up becoming prissy twits after marriage, denying their husbands sex except on rare occasions while switching lingerie for sweatpants. Sometimes men who charm like crazy end up being jerks as husbands. Any man with sense knows that a woman who flashes her body is trying to get a man who will take care of her. The old rules and perspectives never change. Men advertise by putting up a complete front and to be frank, often swear until the high heavens they would be a great husband. This is why I value waiting for a long time to see someone for who they really are. Kate has no business neglecting her husband, I know that much.

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If that's not an open invitation for a mistress I don't know what is.
No way Waity and the Viper would let that happen voluntarily IMO.
I think Wimpo kicked Waity out because he wants a divorce and has his next wife waiting around the corner.

I do think that men have 'needs' and should tend to them, but NEVER (men, please learn this) NEVER think that the mistress will ever be content to remain a mistress. As I ranted, mistresses are now literally killing wives and I do believe that Jecca is no innocent in my view. She knows how people think and if she marries William right after a divorce, or after any divorce, she will be branded as an adulteress just like Camilla and to be blunt I will indeed side with Kate. Kate is the wife, William could have done things differently and ended up a happily married man, but things have been done the way they have and he should live with his choice. I don't believe that HM would be happy, mainly since it would be a divorce, remarriage, and then a major scandal, something that would flash back to Charles and Camilla.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on November 19, 2014, 11:37:44 am
:laugh:
That second "pregnancy" IMO is a desperate move from the Mansons.
But it isn't working.
Waity is still stalled at Doom's Dungeon and Wimpo hasn't taken her back.
He would rather be seen as an impotent loser then live with her and that says a lot about the state of their marriage.

I agree, that's how it seems. It would explain why Waity looks so awful (her puffy eyes, forced to stay at Bucklebury, the cut of her budget,etc.). And I think that they discussed a divorce during their stay at Balmoral. They lived separately for a very long time now. Waity and CM don't seem to be able to change the situation. Not even the 'second pregnancy' helped Waity.

@KF:
No, cheating is not nice and a divorce is also bad. I agree with you that Jecca is no innocent. But if Waity did blackmail him, in that case she would be no innocent either. Perhaps Jecca and W wanted to get married, but Waity sabotaged it. I'm sure that some day the truth will come out. I believe that the medds used dirty tricks in order to get the ring.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 19, 2014, 11:44:47 am
Whether you and I agree with it or not, people in unhappy marriages have affairs.  (People in HAPPY marriages have affairs too!  Go figure.)  And we all can see how unhappy and awkward William's situation is.  He must be under tremendous pressure from the five of them.
I can't find it right now but I remember reading that Charles told Diana she couldn't possibly expect him to be the only Prince of Wales who never had a mistress.  It happens in that rarefied atmosphere.  And all over the world as well.  Sad but true.

Regarding William's trip to NYC (and where Jecca will be)....how did it change that KM is now accompanying him?  People change their minds, yes, but I believe that family "convinces" William to do what they want.  Over and over again he's made breathtakingly bad decisions.  Surprising decisions that leave us shaking our heads.  What do they say to him?  I shudder to think what explosive family information he's disclosed.

Life is so short, and William knows that; he was so very young when he lost his mother, and shortly after that he was cut from the herd by someone very calculating.  They say you can tell a man by the company he keeps.  Well, an improvement in the company William keeps would change the man into a better person.  I believe he has the potential to do good.  But it's not going to happen with his current "family".  William needs someone who will influence him to serve others.  Not to just take all the perks with a minimum of giving back.  He needs someone who truly has the same interests as he, not someone "pretending" in order to advance a family's social and financial aspirations.

 I do wish him happiness.



Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on November 19, 2014, 12:13:44 pm
 :goodpost:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2014, 02:22:38 pm
^^That, my dear, is the real world and well put.  It's unfortunate and for many not the right thing to do but it the way things go.  Personally, I don't think PW, whether he has an affair or not, is committed to a life of balance and personal satisfaction at this point anyway.  He's on a mission of (he believes) martyrdom which is a perfect recipe for feeling that you can do anything you want to make yourself feel better however temporary it is.

Do I think he's having an affair?  I don't know but even though I never gamble I'd bet a good deal that he will eventually.  He feels he deserves to have whatever he wants no matter how self destructive.  His life pattern to date is evidence of that one. 

If he spent at least some part of his life looking around him at the capabilities he has to make the world a better place and act on it in a genuine and heartfelt manner, he'd be a better man but his belief that the world is against him will hold him back until he changes that around if he ever does. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: MelissaRose on November 19, 2014, 03:07:47 pm
William has no excuse to cheat on Kate, he chose her for his wife! It's not like he was forced into a loveless marriage. He should have stuck with Jecca, he wasn't exactly barred from proposing to her...


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2014, 03:09:24 pm
^He doesn't require an excuse.  Nobody says no to PW effectively.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 19, 2014, 04:40:02 pm
I do not in principle agree with divorce.  But sometimes it just has to be.  Wasty knew what a *fool* he was, she was his booty call, in between bedding other women along the way.  Maybe his booty call when all others were unavailable.  She stalked/waited 10 years.  What does that tell us. She was prepared to do anything, and I mean anything, to snare him.  She knew the score, she knew his tempers, and etc.  She knew what the life entailed.  Why did she think he would change just because of a church service.  He knew he could make her lie on the floor and wipe his feet on her.  She must have zero self respect for herself to allow herself to be treated like that.  I ask you, what woman in her right mind would have put up with all that and then at the end of the day agree to marry a person like him.  And him, he obviously thought she was well in her lowly place and could continue treating her like a piece of dirt beneath his shoe.  He also is to blame.  He should never, ever have married her.  She is not suitable for the "job" in hand.  She wants to take the rf down t her level, one up from a sink estate. That is not what the rf is all about,  You marry in, you abide by the rules.  It is not a family in the true sense of the word, it is a "family firm".  Albeit it one steeped in tradition, history, etiquette and self entitlement.  But that is what it is, always has been, who are wasty and her family to come along and change all that.   Instead of sitting by phone for a booty call why was she not reading as she could about royalty, traditions, etiquette and all the other things that go with being a "staff member" of the royals. 

Trouble is she and ma saw no further than the Blue Curse and the frock at Westminster Abbey. After that it was thought that ma and pa would move into KP with them no doubt, their own suite of rooms, cupcake and orangina in tow.  The medd family en masse enfolded into the aristo/royal set, the second coming, and etc etc etc  - the sky was the limit, the medd family had arrived :bouncy:  Wait, stop there, that did not happen.  Ma unwanted in the circle and now bitter and twisted.  Wasty not up to the job. She though it was Cinderalla and that she lived in the lap of luxury and extravagance, unlimited funds at her disposal, buy what she liked, did what she wanted, when she wanted. Stop there again  -  that was not the case.  Wasty has Nudigate, a$$ on the line, we have to provide a meal ticket, sprog is created.  And so it goes on. - and on and on.

I think the medds mis-sold themselves and wasty to him, and he has had an eye opener.  What man, in any position in life, would want to hang on to a wife like that, and that odious family in tow, appearing to ridicule the royals weekly and eager to throw them into the gutter and trample on them.  If the royals thought they were at an all time low after the death of Diana they should take a poll now, and see what the medds are actually doing to them and their reputation, not just in the UK but world wide.

I do not like wasty or wimpo, but then neither do I think they should both have to live their lives in misery because he (they) made a mistake.  Of their own making, yes, but a mistake nevertheless.

We are not rehearsing our lives, this is the real deal, this is what we have, and to live it tied, miserably, to another person, in my personal opinion is wrong. We have seen how they both come alive on solo engagements, put them together and it is a disaster.  If they show that dislike in public, what we ask ourselves goes on when the cameras stop rolling.

HM cannot be blind surely, she must see how miserable they are and what a disaster it all is.  If it is correct that she said it will all end in tears, then let it end in tears, but for goodness sake let them both dry their tears and move on with their lives, why live in abject misery as they appear to do.

Divorce is not a dirty word, and very much something that happens in all families, and all with a fair share of hurt, anger, a whole range of emotions.  But life moves on, things settle down, it is not the end of the world,

I finish as I started, I do not in principle agree with divorce, but sometimes it is necessary and it happens.  I don´t think anyone should ruin their life to the extent that they feel utterly miserable and trapped. 

I am sure many of you will disagree with me, and I accept that, it is fine, we all have our opinions, I jut ask you to respect that these are my opinions.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2014, 04:41:57 pm
^From my standpoint, divorce is no stranger to the BRF so I don't understand any potential shock value within the ranks. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: CarryingOn on November 19, 2014, 05:29:15 pm
^^ :goodpost: Agreed


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 19, 2014, 05:32:21 pm
^^Totally agree, neither do I, in fact I think a divorce in this instance would be no shock at all for anyone  -  I think most people realise they are just not suited as a couple and wasty is definitely not suitable for the royal family, full stop.  She has none of the qualities or attributes required to fulfill her role.  If indeed she was working in a professional company she would have been shown the door many moons ago, with no golden handshake.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on November 19, 2014, 06:08:27 pm
Waity and the Mansons brainwashed Wimpo into marrying Waity IMO.
Wimpo must have had doubts about her being the One, otherwise he wouldn't have waited 10 years to propose.
Never heard of a man waiting so long.
I have some doubts about Wimpo wanting her to be his concubine because of the telephone tapes.
Wimpo came across as a working man just hoping to get some quality time with his girlfriend.
Not claiming at all, even the contrary by suggesting that Waity must be busy at work, busy at the gym or hanging out with friends.
Now we all know that Waity was just sitting by the phone doing nothing but Wimpo obviously thought otherwise.
The corruption of Wimpo's character slowly crept in-like alcoholism.
Wimpo got emotionally dependent on the Mansons, especially Ma an that might be the reason he proposed eventually.
I guess Ma was playing the shame and virtue card, how Waity waited 10 years for him, how Waity's reputation was tarnished and all those Jane Austen values that Wimpo MUST be somewhat sensitive for given the way he was raised.
He finally gave in.
But instead of having a home and a loving family he has a nightmare on his hands now.
Waity is NOT willing to learn, respect him or his family, NOT willing to work for the country Wimpo will serve one day and IMO he cannot cope with this reality.
Wimpo is hiding out, just hoping the situation will solve itself but it won't.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Snowdrop on November 19, 2014, 06:45:14 pm
^^^^^Brilliant post GB    :hi: :flower:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 19, 2014, 07:56:06 pm
You said it all, GB.  Well done.

I just want it to be over.  I know William's family will ensure a smooth transition for him, out of his unhappiness.  And many will rally around him with support.  But at some point he will have to prove himself worthy of that bolstering.  He hasn't done that yet.

And off topic, in my mind his father has proven himself.  With help in the beginning from his hardworking wife, Diana.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 19, 2014, 09:02:09 pm
If William is messing around, I do believe that he should be condemned. He had no business NOT seeing the warning signs the way others did. His unhappiness is of his own making. He has no business dropping his marriage like he's dropped everything else in his life and getting another chance at having it all. Why should he jilt his spouse and kid and be allowed back into the dating ring and then proceed to mess up someone else's carefully built life? Why should William be allowed to change his mind and essentially rip off the UK taxpayers even more after they funded that circus of a wedding? It would be the ultimate slap in the face to the United Kingdom.

At some point, it should have dawned on him that this family was playing him like a fiddle and that Kate was bad bad bad news. At some point he should have figured out that if the Middletons were so flush, despite the tack they sold, that maybe, just maybe the drug and sex trafficking Uncle Gary might be financing them.

If I had a boyfriend that took me to a villa, where I found out hardcore drugs and other stuff were stashed and that a 'fun uncle' was involved in sex trafficking, I would flake out, drop him like a hot potato, and then get the Hades OUT of that circle and order friends to drop said significant other/keep the ex out of their clubs.

Now, William had the world at his feet and had a chance to marry ANYONE he wanted. He's not some innocent victim, he was a lot more worldly and experienced than his peers were and let me be blunt when I tell you that I'm tired of being expected to feel sorry for so many privileged royals like him. He had it all as a teenager.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 19, 2014, 10:17:36 pm
^I don't know which is worse.  PW getting the whip for cheating on his wife or the long-suffering media push Kate will get.  I think the latter is more sickening, frankly. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on November 20, 2014, 12:26:38 am
If he is messing around he deserves to get blasted - he made a choice and he took a vow - live up to it.  I just see no excuse for cheating.  Especially since he knows what it was like for him when he was a child.

I do doubt he is cheating - who would have anything to do with him?  Those yellow teeth of his alone would be a total turn off not to mention how pompous he seems to be.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: LadyLaura on November 20, 2014, 01:32:02 am
^ I have a feeling there are women lining up waiting to sleep with a prince (any prince), and women who *despise* Kate so much and her uppity family they would do it for that reason alone  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 20, 2014, 02:39:49 am
^That seems logical to me.  There are women out there who would be more than happy to bask in whatever short sunshine they believe is associated with the Princely Prince William.  They need a good therapist, but it happens.

Personally, whether William has an affair or not it's not his biggest fault. There are a lot more things that would get me to smack him around than that.  How about getting your lazy butt to work and doing your duty?  His personal life?  That's his to deal with but right now his personal life is affecting how he goes about his business which is to do what's best for his country.

An affair just doesn't get me that worked up.  Maybe I have Clinton Syndrome.  No clue but there are bigger fish to fry, to me.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on November 20, 2014, 03:41:52 am
@Yooper
I love how you distill all the facts and come out with the essence of the situation in an easily understandable way.  You're an astute observer of the human (& the RF's) condition.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 20, 2014, 04:08:27 am
^Well, aren't you a darlin'.  What a nice thing to say.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Corbie on November 20, 2014, 01:59:59 pm
If he's having an affair with Jecca, it is because he wants to escape to her family's game park.
He envies her fiefdom where she can do pretty much what she wants.  Wealthy Brits in Africa
can do their own thing quite easily if they have the land and money.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: KGap on November 21, 2014, 10:01:49 pm
If William gets caught. Kate will be tossed under the bus. That's what happens to everyone in William's life.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on November 21, 2014, 10:36:50 pm
Let us never forget, "Don't you know who I am?!" from a table top.  That person hasn't changed.  So, if he gets caught with his pants down he will never, ever take personal responsibility.  Somebody will bail him out and he knows it.  It's his worst trait.  And, as time goes on, it will happen.  It's only a matter of time, I truly believe that.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2014, 05:50:41 am
I don't think William has any right to be unhappy around Kate; he chose her and frankly put, I'm tired of seeing him so miserable around a woman who he chose. No one would have pressured him to marry Kate if he had wanted to back out during that relationship or even the engagement and second, he owed her nothing. What he can't seem to get is that he brought all his misery on himself. Promise or no promise, he could have walked out of Berkshire and also ordered his friends to keep her out. He could have retreated behind palace gates while the press bashed him and learned that being disliked by certain segments of the media was inevitable and could have done so much more with himself and easily regained the adoration of the tabloid pack over time. He held (and still holds) all the power and it's not like he's unable to do things to make his life better. No one did this to anyone but himself. He could have kept it over in 2007, told Kate to bugger off if she had ended up pestering him or froze her out of his life. He could have asked his aristocratic friends to do the same and then could have easily ended up moving on in life.

Just think. He ends his relationship and starts structuring his life centered on his goals (like a normal person) and started to end up having it all his own way and after a few stints in various embassies the threads holding them together would be frayed and then ended. Then of course he would have been growing into royal life and being the prince he is. Then he could go to the clubs, but minus the ex-girlfriend trailing him and chances are he would be meeting someone nice and someone who is apparently good for him. All the fool had to do was exercise some kind of self control and everything would have ended up going just golden for him and he would be at a point in his life when he would have it all. So it does irk me when he looks so hatefully at Kate all the time like she's some woman he was FORCED to marry. He could have married Jecca, he could have married anyone on the planet really and could have easily lived a happily married life. So in my view, he has NO REASON to mess around with anyone and as far as I'm concerned, Jecca is just as bad, if not worse, as Camilla is. Only worse, mainly since Camilla was considered unsuitable.

Jecca could have been easily accepted by the BRF and a major press campaign could have ended up being just the thing to ensure her popularity with the press. Certainly nothing would have stopped her from doing a slew of fashionable appearances and she would have been highly admired. If she's messing with William, I'm siding with Kate hands down. Kate is the wife, for better or worse. Jecca has NO RIGHT to mess with a married man like William is now.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stargazer on November 29, 2014, 09:14:51 am
^yup, he's made his choices...he would be in a worse position than Chuck if he divorced IMO. I know some people loathe KM but a lot like her too. Her family wouldn't be easily silenced. I think even though her family was manipulating the situation, she truly adores him. What a mess!  :-


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on November 29, 2014, 03:16:12 pm
Hmmm, not convinced she loves him, she loves what she can get from him IMO.   I personally do not know anyone who likes wasty, or even the idea of her and her family remaining with ties to the rf.  So many people dislike the medds en mass I reckon there would be street parties if they go.

I think acceptance of divorce in the rf has moved on since the days of chucky and Princess Diana.  And let us face it, whatever her faults and foibles, many adored PD, or the person they perceived her to be.  The same cannot be said for wasty in any way, shape or form seems to be the general opinion.  Ferrari and Skoda those two, with wasty being the latter, have always thought that.

I would never say never.  Wasty and the medds are doing more harm to the monarchy than when chucky and PD divorced, the public were all for PD; they are not all for wasty and the medds.

I am sure there are some idiots out there who think wasty and the medds are the bees knees, but I doubt the people in power and who are able to alter things are not of that opinion,  they could be, but very highly doubtful.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 29, 2014, 05:04:27 pm
Whether or not she's liked it besides the point.

The real point, is that Kate is the wife and William chose her; no matter what, she deserves fidelity and deserves that much respect.

Jecca could have married him easily, but go figure, ended up refusing since she didn't want to the (not hard at all) work that would go with the position. As far as I'm concerned, Jecca really isn't different from the other many girls who enjoy a good time. If she's messing with William, she's lower than Camilla.

I do believe that Camilla really did want to marry Charles, but had 'a past,' which cut her out. Jecca had the advantage of being in modern times and William is crazy about her and with his choices and times he lives in, he has no business pleading that either were kept apart because of social restrictions. Jecca has no excuse.

No matter what, I would stand with Kate about this since I would like the position of wife respected.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: MelissaRose on November 29, 2014, 06:04:54 pm
Exactly. Whilst I *despise* what C+C did to Diana, I can understand Charles's frustration over not being able to marry his true love and having to settle for someone inexperienced and years younger. William had freedom of choice, he could have chosen any woman, but chose Kate. True, this may be because Kate craved the royal life and the more career-focused girlfriends shunned it, but she was his choice nonetheless. He has no excuse to cheat and if he is, then it shows him up as a truly spoilt and petulant overgrown brat.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Snowpea on November 29, 2014, 06:21:20 pm
@Yooper
I love how you distill all the facts and come out with the essence of the situation in an easily understandable way.  You're an astute observer of the human (& the RF's) condition.

A lot of people here are.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2014, 06:40:37 pm
Melissa, I think that the 'royal life' wasn't the problem with William not being wanted for his handsomeness, or accomplishments, or his substance, or his work. Royal life imo is just a mix of protocol, be a public figure and work for your people. nothing That difficult. all the people in politics live with their private life splashed all over the news. they are also judged and even sincerely hated if they don't work for the people who elected them.

i think that William chose Kate because literally no other woman wanted him because without the HRH in front of his name - in the real world, the world of normal people, he would be considered as a total loser. and no woman wants that. and now, even if he has an affair, it's probably with a woman who is impressed by the HRH and the never ending flow of taxpayer's money that he can spend as much as he like.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on November 29, 2014, 06:56:20 pm
Jecca could have married him easily, but go figure, ended up refusing since she didn't want to the (not hard at all) work that would go with the position.

Not sure if Jecca refused William because of the work that comes with being a royal. I think that the overall loss of privacy played a bigger role.

In my opinion royal life is a pain in the @ss and I would only go for it for the 'perfect guy' and well, it is hard to think about William as a perfect guy for anybody. He is boring, petulant, high maintenance and has serious mummy issues. Any woman with some self-respect would be running for the hills instead of running towards William. Only Kate, who has no self-respect as we all know, was willing to give up it all for the magic HRH and the black AmEx card. I hope she is pleased with her choice, but when looking at her, she doesn't come across as a happy content woman.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Ariel on November 29, 2014, 07:14:09 pm
I doubt that she got a black amex. if she did she would have looked happier. regarding the high maintenance - William strikes me as a damsel in distress who is looking for the knight in shiny armor to save him. and as for Jecca - she didn't love him enough. if she did she would have said yes and accepted his public role... the same role which William hasn't accepted yet.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: KGap on November 30, 2014, 04:30:21 am
Say William gets caught and the papers actually have the cajones to run the story. Who gets tossed under the bus? I vote papa for being such a poor role model that poor poor William had no choice.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2014, 05:01:36 am
The only reason I support Kate in this situation is because I am a supporter of the fact that wives deserve unconditional fidelity and that much respect for their status.

Marriage is fragile and hers is fragile enough, without Jecca coming in and making a mess of things and providing a way for William to avoid facing his responsibilities. I don't believe that marital infidelity is ever justified and William owes Kate that level of respect since she is after all, the woman he chose to make his wife/consort.

think that William chose Kate because literally no other woman wanted him because without the HRH in front of his name - in the real world, the world of normal people, he would be considered as a total loser. and no woman wants that. and now, even if he has an affair, it's probably with a woman who is impressed by the HRH and the never ending flow of taxpayer's money that he can spend as much as he like.

Exactly; thing is, that people these days are less tolerant of people who are privileged, who don't have their lives together and running smoothly. William has way too much baggage and is too weak to face his problems square on and deal with them decisively. Same with Harry really.

Jecca could have married him easily, but go figure, ended up refusing since she didn't want to the (not hard at all) work that would go with the position.
Not sure if Jecca refused William because of the work that comes with being a royal. I think that the overall loss of privacy played a bigger role

Which is ironic since if she's (Jecca) messing with William and this is exposed, then realistically she'll be all over the international press, which means her desire for privacy will have ended up being all a complete waste and she'll be notorious as the tart who is messing around with a married man.

Exactly. Whilst I *despise* what C+C did to Diana, I can understand Charles's frustration over not being able to marry his true love and having to settle for someone inexperienced and years younger.

Exactly; Charles was expected to marry either a Protestant princess, or he would marry a virginal British aristocrat from the top tier, non-negotiable terms. It was imperative that Charles end up marrying the 'right' type and his circle was so narrow and he had had so many affairs, someone wife material was going to be rare.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: KGap on November 30, 2014, 05:04:35 am
It's hard to feel sorry for someone who was well aware of what she was getting herself into and who William was. Wife or not.
She wouldn't let any other girls near William. She made her own bed.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on November 30, 2014, 05:11:34 am
William could have easily seen other girls if he had had the balls to put Kate in her place and tell her to stop giving death stares to the women in his circle.

So he still has no excuse.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: KGap on November 30, 2014, 05:16:16 am
He is a very weak individual. Waity got her claws out and into him. He was a goner the moment he went back to her.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: MelissaRose on December 02, 2014, 05:29:52 pm
Weak andstupid.  :king:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 02, 2014, 05:57:09 pm
Whether or not she's liked it besides the point.

The real point, is that Kate is the wife and William chose her; no matter what, she deserves fidelity and deserves that much respect.

Jecca could have married him easily, but go figure, ended up refusing since she didn't want to the (not hard at all) work that would go with the position. As far as I'm concerned, Jecca really isn't different from the other many girls who enjoy a good time. If she's messing with William, she's lower than Camilla.

I do believe that Camilla really did want to marry Charles, but had 'a past,' which cut her out. Jecca had the advantage of being in modern times and William is crazy about her and with his choices and times he lives in, he has no business pleading that either were kept apart because of social restrictions. Jecca has no excuse.

No matter what, I would stand with Kate about this since I would like the position of wife respected.

99.9% of the time I agree with you about marriage, but in this case William's boredom with Kate was so apparent that it's hard to feel sympathetic at her finding herself married to a man who is bored with her since we all knew he was bored with her.   

And Camilla REALLY wanted to marry Andrew Parker Bowles because at the time Andrew was all dashing and manly and studly and Charles was kinda wet-behind-the-ears, immature and whiney.  This is kind of blows up the Amazing Love Story that Charles and Camilla's handlers have put out, but there it is.  Just another myth.    :bored:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Emperor on December 02, 2014, 06:28:22 pm
Whether or not she's liked it besides the point.

The real point, is that Kate is the wife and William chose her; no matter what, she deserves fidelity and deserves that much respect.

Jecca could have married him easily, but go figure, ended up refusing since she didn't want to the (not hard at all) work that would go with the position. As far as I'm concerned, Jecca really isn't different from the other many girls who enjoy a good time. If she's messing with William, she's lower than Camilla.

I do believe that Camilla really did want to marry Charles, but had 'a past,' which cut her out. Jecca had the advantage of being in modern times and William is crazy about her and with his choices and times he lives in, he has no business pleading that either were kept apart because of social restrictions. Jecca has no excuse.

No matter what, I would stand with Kate about this since I would like the position of wife respected.

99.9% of the time I agree with you about marriage, but in this case William's boredom with Kate was so apparent that it's hard to feel sympathetic at her finding herself married to a man who is bored with her since we all knew he was bored with her.   

I sometimes disagree with KF but this time I'll have to agree with her and disagree with you. WK is a human being. Even if the horse is bored of his wife it doesn't justify cheating. If he's bored he should divorce har and marry someone else. Cheating IMO is never justified. PW made his bed and now he should sleep in it.
 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 02, 2014, 06:37:30 pm
Thanks.

I don't condone marital cheating because quite frankly it puts all wives at risk. How many stories do we hear of mistresses killing the wife to get the husband herself or worse, the husband killing his wife to end up marrying the mistress. We still theorize if Charles had Diana offed so he could move forward with Camilla.

William could have easily married anyone and if Jecca didn't like the royal life, it shows that even Jecca couldn't possibly love him since his royal self is part of him. So as far as I'm concerned, she's no better than Camilla, worse in fact since cheating is no longer as socially acceptable. As Emperor said, Kate is a human being, a person.

William could have had anyone else as a wife easily or walked away from the royal life to be with Jecca.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Snowdrop on December 02, 2014, 07:29:00 pm
^ Are you carzy KF  :hi:- and give up all the perks etc  :sigh:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 02, 2014, 10:53:52 pm
Sorry, I have no sympathy with her.  She stalked for 10 years and knew the score, and knew what she was getting into,  Why did she think he would change and become faithful once the wedding was over  -  obviously picked up chucky´s cheating ways along the line if he is having affairs.  He was always cheating on her during those ten years and she turned a blind eye  -  more fool her, the writing was on the wall, in capital letters.

For me, wasty has reaped what she sowed.  I do not think affairs are the right thing to do, never have and never will, but for wasty she really did know the score, and although I have no liking for wimpo, she has never cut the apron strings or tried to make a comfortable home for them, and has done nothing to become an accepted member of the rf.  She has done a lot of damage to the image of the rf, and to me that is not acceptable.  I do not think he would be easy to live with, and has a right temper if you go by the way he treats his staff, but with these two I think it is six of one and half a dozen of the other.  The point here he is has the money, the status, it is all his, he has already cheated on her on numerous occasions before the wedding, and he is so arrogant and self-entitled he thinks he can continue and treat her as he always has. 

I am not saying it is right, but she really did walk into that with her eyes wide open, or maybe just wide open on the Blue Curse. I don´t think wasty and ma saw any further than the wedding at Westminster Abbey, or if they did it was titles, entree into the aristo circles, afternoon tea at BP, Xmases at Sandringham, waving to all on the church walk and maybe an underling to take a few flowers for her.  Sadly, it does not work like that.  In laws to the royals are rarely seen or included, and that is the way it always has been.

You can´t marry into a family like the Windsors and expect to drag them down to your level, and that is what she wants to do.  So my apologies if I offend anyone, but I cannot find it in me to feel sorry for her if wimpo is having an affair.  She chose to ignore the numerous signs on numerous walls, and still went ahead.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Mandosiel on December 02, 2014, 11:02:42 pm
^Torally agree. On her own head be it, she's never going to get respect from Wimpo if she never had any respect for herself. Things don't work that way, there's no instantaneous anything, men treat you in the way you present yourself to them. She has never been anything except easy, loose, and obliging to him, willing to put up with any amount of humiliation he threw at her just to keep him.

She brought all of this on herself completely by hanging on until he married her and then expecting to be treated better by him. It's an utterly ridiculous notion on her part. He showed her who he was and what type of man when he was dating her, if she didn't see him for what he was back then, oh well, it's not like she didn't have plenty of time to figure it out.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 02, 2014, 11:34:47 pm
^^ Completely agree with both of you.   I'm all about fidelity and respect in a marriage, and it's crazy that William actually married this woman, but as you say, Kate knew the score.  I can't feel sympathy for her. 

What she NEEDS to do is get off her keister and be like Diana and throw herself into work.     :cookie:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2014, 01:07:51 am
Wasn't there some mention that she'd been advised/warned that fidelity comes with the territory before she got married?  Obviously, could be wrong but it rings a bell.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Fly on the wall on December 03, 2014, 01:25:30 am
^Wouldn't be surprise if that was true,and it's sad at the same time it comes with the territory so just deal with it.  I would think William would know better cause he saw it first hand what it did.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Miss Hathaway on December 03, 2014, 01:54:37 am
Wasn't there some mention that she'd been advised/warned that fidelity comes with the territory before she got married?  Obviously, could be wrong but it rings a bell.

I have read that Kate told Chelsy it came with the territory.     :-


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 03, 2014, 03:18:09 am
^That sounds familiar.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 03, 2014, 03:07:13 pm
Wasn't there some mention that she'd been advised/warned that fidelity comes with the territory before she got married?  Obviously, could be wrong but it rings a bell.
I have read that Kate told Chelsy it came with the territory.     :-

Ah yes; Kate the all knowin sophisticate is now forced to live by her word.

I still disagree with it though; this is why the Windsors are having problems finding 'nice' girls, the nice girls don't put up with it.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: AnaBolena on December 03, 2014, 04:05:59 pm
I think very much along the lines of Yooper.  An affair isn't the worst he could do imo.  Like others I do not condone cheating either, but at the same time as much as I dislike Willy, I do think Wastey only went as far as down the aisle as a 'nice bride'.

 I don't think she continued after the nuptials which ensured boredom and a lack of interest on the part of Willy.  Men can be naive and think a woman won't change after marriage, but many do, and then are sobbing when hubby finds love elsewhere.  In this instance I don't feel an affair is the worst thing he could do, and neither do I think wives are poor powerless creatures. 

Happy men don't stray to hamburger when they have steak at home and people don't own people.  When we marry we give a vow to forsake all others, but we also give a vow to love, honor and cherish. If you don't get the honor and cherish part right, no piece of paper anywhere can stop either party from straying.

William is dead lazy, Kate is dead lazy - infidelity is the least of their problems - and if Kate has any sense she'll do as Katherine of Aragon did - put up with it and keep her dignity whilst trying to make amends for her foolish and greedy actions.



Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:18 pm
Katherine of Aragon was a royal Princess in her own right. Light years ahead of Kate. And she had to put up with  Henry's affairs (she complained early on and there was a rift between her and Henry for a time). She also felt threatened when Henry's son Henry Fitzroy was elevated to Duke of Richmond and she thought him a threat to Princess Mary.

Kate also had ten years to figure out William had a roving eye despite all the Death Stares.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 15, 2014, 01:16:05 am
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Sorry, I have no sympathy with her.  She stalked for 10 years and knew the score, and knew what she was getting into,  Why did she think he would change and become faithful once the wedding was over  -  obviously picked up chucky´s cheating ways along the line if he is having affairs.  He was always cheating on her during those ten years and she turned a blind eye  -  more fool her, the writing was on the wall, in capital letters.

I just believe that the principle of supporting the position of a wife should kind of be held as important. He had the ultimate choice; he could have manned up, dumped her, and kept her out of his life, using the law if she was literally stalking him and he could prove it.

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For me, wasty has reaped what she sowed.  I do not think affairs are the right thing to do, never have and never will, but for wasty she really did know the score, and although I have no liking for wimpo, she has never cut the apron strings or tried to make a comfortable home for them, and has done nothing to become an accepted member of the rf.  She has done a lot of damage to the image of the rf, and to me that is not acceptable. 

I completely agree; she has no business neglecting the marital bed, messing with his family relationship, neglecting in running their household. I believe that if she had made a home for the two of them alone, he wouldn't be running around looking for that very home life that she promised to provide. If she took better, healthier care of herself I am certain that he would be more enamored of her. IF she weren't openly drooling over Harry, he might be less distant to her when it's just those two.

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I am not saying it is right, but she really did walk into that with her eyes wide open, or maybe just wide open on the Blue Curse. I don´t think wasty and ma saw any further than the wedding at Westminster Abbey,

I do think she thought she could handle him cheating, since in her mind she would be getting jewels and gifts and other endless perks, but it hasn't happened. So she has to face being dependent on a stingy, cheating husband who treats her like dirt. Like any 'normal' couple.

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or if they did it was titles, entree into the aristo circles, afternoon tea at BP, Xmases at Sandringham, waving to all on the church walk and maybe an underling to take a few flowers for her.  Sadly, it does not work like that.  In laws to the royals are rarely seen or included, and that is the way it always has been.

Exactly; she thought she would be able to do so much for her family, but it ended up not getting those advantages.

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You can´t marry into a family like the Windsors and expect to drag them down to your level, and that is what she wants to do.  So my apologies if I offend anyone, but I cannot find it in me to feel sorry for her if wimpo is having an affair.  She chose to ignore the numerous signs on numerous walls, and still went ahead.

YET; the Windsors are low, they are as low as the Middletons, their titles just cover it up. If the Windsors were so up there, Kate never would have stood a chance to marry someone like William, if only for the title itself alone. The way William behaves and the way that he treats people, it's only seen for who he is because he's with Kate. We ourselves bashed Kate, but look at how William has turned out. He is married to Kate because she is the only person who found his behavior acceptable and that is because of his title and bank account. So it's no wonder he ended up with Kate. He never tried to better himself. His behavior would only be accepted by a woman with ulterior motives.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on December 15, 2014, 03:17:43 am
Do I think PW will have an affair at some point in their marriage?  Yes.  Most emphatically yes.  I'm not so sure he is now, though.  I can see him having side phone calls for 'support' and stuff like that but I can't say I blame him.  Yep, he married her but in my long bumpy ride with men and no offense to any men here, they tend to be easily influenced and distracted if not firmly matured which I do not believe PW is.  He's still having temper tantrums over the most stupid things.

However, the biggie for me is that in any marriage one of the main things that you do whether you like it or not is to bring something of yourself to your mate's family.  And, for me, the BRF is more important in what they do than the Middletons. So what I've seen, so far, is the foolish BRF bending over backwards for Kate's family but I see very little of Kate bending herself or molding herself into what her husband's family requires and I truly believe it is what is a constant source of friction in this marriage.

Nobody can put up with the constant power struggle that must be happening.  Look at Christmas!  Should the Middletons be there? Should they not?  Who cares?  Nobody else's family ever goes to Sandringham and it's HM's gig not theirs.  I understand that Kate would like to see her family at Christmas time but so would other people who are married into the BRF and they don't make it into a big hairy deal.  It's this kind of conflict that causes human beings to seek out an oasis, however misguided morally.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephanie on December 15, 2014, 09:44:01 am
The minute Wimpo starts"talking" to a willing female about his marital problems the marriage is doomed IMO.
Look what happened when Chuck started "talking" to Camzilla.
Wimpo should divorce Waity ASAP or start marriage counseling, this situation is an accident waiting to happen.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Emperor on December 15, 2014, 11:18:54 am
^
I don't believe chuck ever stopped "talking" to camzilla


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on December 15, 2014, 04:35:19 pm
Camilla allegedly helped Charles select his bride even hosting weekends so she could "inspect" Diana and "mentor her." Charles was whining to Camilla every step of the way and Camilla's advice was not exactly objective to say the least. William may be talking to Jecca on their hunting trips.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: AnaBolena on December 15, 2014, 05:55:57 pm
^ Yooper, very good post and very true as regards marriage imo.  Both parties have to bring themselves to the respective families tables - but with W and K I see none of that coming from K, in fact I don't see anything particularly wifely coming from her or husbandly coming from W. The entire marriage comes across as farcical.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: rosielinks on December 16, 2014, 11:41:04 am
Waity will put up with infidelity as long as PW is discrete - and maybe even if he isn't. She will like playing the martyr and having people feel sorry for her.

As long as she has her mother to go home to, she is on an even keel. The problems will start once her mother proves mortal - probably not for a long while yet. She is only in her 50s.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2014, 10:56:23 pm
Kate strikes me as someone who thought the ring was the main goal and didn't understand that after, she would have to continue to make him happy. I abhor infidelity, but the thing is, Kate should have never foolishly thought that she would be able to stop making her husband happy, shirk providing a happy home, and never should have started acting more like a sister and thought that her campaign would be able to be tossed off. She didn't realize that by marrying William, she would start at a new beginning line, not a finish line. William's expectations were based on her behavior and yes, he (as I predicted) has started to get ticked that his wife isn't doing her part to promote the FIRM and make him look good. Her only job and she isn't doing that. After all her drama, it's no wonder he would be sick of her.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 17, 2014, 04:22:00 pm
Well, she can´t say she did not know what he was like, he was cheating on her for many years, he obviously did not respect her did he otherwise he would not have treated her so shabbily.  You don´t treat the people you love the way he treats her.  In fact I would not reat anyone the way he treats her, cold and despicable.

I do not approve of infidelity, and I find divorce very sad indeed.  I do however believe we only have one life, it is not a dress rehearsal, and if being together makes you so desperately unhappy and miserable, as appears to be the case with them, then you have to walk away and move on.  Yes, they married one another, but maybe each had the crazy idea that the other would change.  Sheer insanity for any couple but a lot of couples think it is possible to change people, but it does not happen, or if it does it is very rare.  I dislike both of them for reasons others do on here, but to be locked into a marriage like that, if you want out, is desperately sad for all concerned, and seems quite pointless to me.  Move on and and try and have some happiness in your life again.  Happens to many, wimpo being a royal should not prevent that happening. We are a long time dead, why waste the life you have in misery and unhappiness.  We are all fond of saying the royals are not special,  they are there by an accident of birth, so why should they be any different to others in a similar situation, if we can divorce then so can they.  As I said, sad for any couple/family, but it happens, and often.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 18, 2014, 09:35:37 am
If he's having an affair, she can't leave him on whim; like a lot of upper class women with a cheating husband, she is dependent on him, his income, and his social status to maintain the lifestyle she's used to. I think William married her in the end, because he knew he could treat her badly and get away with it. After a while I think he became really disillusioned and while he married her, the reality of her set in, in a way that must have triggered some kind of complete backlash against her. I wonder if he found something out about her or perhaps it was the realization that his surrogate family is determinedly aristocratic as the REAL aristocrats.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: cate1949 on December 19, 2014, 12:10:25 am
^^ well said Gingerboy24

Personally - he is too cheap to support another woman - geez - he doesn't even really support his wife and child.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on December 19, 2014, 03:24:12 am
I believe KM would be kept in line by her family to stay quiet and let William live his life however he so wishes.  This, in order that they could continue to enjoy the perks.  KM is that much of a pawn of her mother.  When i think of it, perhaps the more valuable asset isn't WK anymore, perhaps it's George, even at this young age.  Interesting to see CM's steely grip on him.  Does she allow PC and HM time alone with George?



Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: india on December 19, 2014, 05:55:21 am
Phew!!!! What a great influence she's going to be.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Stephie on December 19, 2014, 10:32:52 am
If he's having an affair, she can't leave him on whim; like a lot of upper class women with a cheating husband, she is dependent on him, his income, and his social status to maintain the lifestyle she's used to. I think William married her in the end, because he knew he could treat her badly and get away with it. After a while I think he became really disillusioned and while he married her, the reality of her set in, in a way that must have triggered some kind of complete backlash against her. I wonder if he found something out about her or perhaps it was the realization that his surrogate family is determinedly aristocratic as the REAL aristocrats.

Completely agree, and that is why it would be so easy for him to have any kind of affair he wants. There has always been a power imbalance in their relationship, and in the marriage, Waity is 100% dependent. She has nothing in her own right and will lose next-to-everything if their marriage ends, even if it is all Willy's fault. While married, he can do anything he wants with whoever he wants as long as the public is in the dark and Waity is determined to keep her title and lifestyle. She clearly is, which I assume is the basis of her appeal.

Affairs may explain some of his paranoia about and attacks against the media. Waity finding out isn't going to strike him from his position, but the press and public finding out could cause major problems. Maybe Waity understands and they have an open relationship. Even if they do, the public wouldn't support that. He tries to intimidate the media and frequently fights for more privacy - and it's not without reason.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 19, 2014, 10:44:19 am
I do think that even IF she had money of her own and was interested in leaving, she still wouldn't. Thing is, whether she likes it or not, her choices in life have led her to becoming a person who is dependent on William for everything and the real issue is, the VIP treatment she allowed herself to get used to. I do believe that she's not as cold as we think she is, she's so obviously begging him to love her, but he dislikes her intensely. She wants to go back to the old days, but those days are over. There's no way that she could handle the loss of lifestyle, by which I mean the loss of:

HRH
VIP access and treatment at clubs and restaurants
Access to the palace grounds

There is no way anyone ever really recovers from that kind of lifestyle and I'm certain that she is more than aware of how bad it would be for her if she lost William.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 19, 2014, 09:52:10 pm
There is also to be taken into consideration that ultimately the decision might not be theirs to make.  If HM and/or TPTB + chucky do decide to take control of the situation any way forward could be taken completely out of their hands. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Val on December 19, 2014, 10:14:06 pm
TPTB and RF would be doing the country a great service by getting rid of Waity and her grasping, social climbing family.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on December 20, 2014, 03:43:17 pm
As much as I would prefer the RF and TPTB to do something about Kate, I am afraid nothing is being planned in that order. Had they really been dead-set against Kate, they would have acted sooner, before the marriage.
Any divorce, no matter how it is handled, will cause damage to the throne and to the image of the 'perfect family' and the royals being better than the rest.

Because the royals and the courtiers would want to prevent that at all costs, they will put up with Kate, giving her just enough space for her to be happy and to pretend to the public she is 'all in'. And William will be allowed, by Kate and his family, to do whatever he pleases, as long as he is discrete.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: KGap on December 20, 2014, 11:40:59 pm
Kate is just a symptom of the bigger problem - william. They should act sooner rather than later in dealing with him. The monarchy was able to survive after it was rocked by diana's death. Ever since W&K's wedding opinion has gone down. (except for the 2012 jubilee celebrations)

Let the newspapers report on the "real" w&k for a few months and public opinion would be fairly accepting in removing them.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on December 21, 2014, 02:39:18 pm
^^  Could be lesser damage thugh than allowing wasty and the medds to continue to drag the rf into the sewer, mt forgetting how they are making them a laughing stock at the same time..  Butt/boogates, laziness, petulance, self entitlement, wasting taxpayer money, unsuitable heirs, you name it, loads more could be listed.  By the time the medds have finished with the rf they will have not street cred, or respect for them, left.  In fact a lot of the British public have lost respect with HM for burying her head in the sand and letting this whole debacle continue without addressing it in anyway.  People write to Cameron, HM, et al so many, many people high up are aware of the situation re wasty and her odious family and the utter and complete mess they are making and how they are bringing the monarch down, weekly at the moment, so it is not as if they are unaware.  I actually think the British people would be delighted to get shoto f them all from the rf.  Princess Diana was different, the people loved, her, she did a lot of good, she was heavily involved in charity,  the charities loved her as her profile always helped to raise money and awareness for them.  She produce two genuine heirs.  Match that to wasty and there is no similarity at all.  Having affairs one thing, having the public find out and have 100% confirmation is another.  I am sure most males in the rf do have mistresses, but they are obviously discreet about it, unlike wimpo who does not have the intelligence to have discretion, he who must stomp his feet and have his own way all the time.

My personal view is that to allow this debacle to continue can do more harm to the rf than allowing a divorce.  I think ther emight be street parties to celebrate a divorce, that thankful will the taxpaying Brits be to see the back of them.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 21, 2014, 03:02:18 pm
If William is having an affair, I do pity Kate and won't be too harsh. An affair is just plain CRUEL and William has no business messing around behind his spouse's back. He was given every bit of leeway to find whoever he wanted and if he had dumped her in 2010 instead of proposing, no one would have ended up judging him. Seward would have blasted or ignored Kate and a small PR campaign could have easily restored William to favor with the press and public.

William chose her, she was his choice primarily. He has no business messing around behind his wife's back.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Snowpea on December 21, 2014, 09:17:53 pm
No, but they both deserve each other.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Val on December 21, 2014, 09:59:04 pm
^^

Agree GB and thousands of others do too ie that untold harm is being done by keeping the Medds and Waity on board.
It really is a matter of time before they all go, it has to be inevitable with the damage they continue to cause.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on August 20, 2015, 06:47:05 am
O/T, not saying he is involved romantically with Jecca Craig, but I just saw some photos and she's lovely.  So very naturally beautiful without KM's "enhancements".

I hope JC is of more depth and greater emotional stability than KM.  Those attributes must be looking fairly attractive to William about now.

And something else I noticed.  Did KM COPY JC's style of dressing?  Sure looks like it to me.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 20, 2015, 07:58:53 am
I agree with the words of the late James Whitaker that Kate wants the status that much that she will put up with anything. I think she will have more children as it cements her position and makes if more difficult for a divorce.

Do I think that there will be a divorce? No I think that she is too entrenched now. Even if she continues to undertake very few duties she is the mother of the future king. Do I think that William will stray? Probably as he does not seem that happy with his lot in general.

Do I think that the behaviour of the younger royals and "the march of the Middletons" will impact on the popularity of the RF now and in the future? Definitely. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Val on August 20, 2015, 08:07:39 am
It is predicted by many groups that there will no longer be a Monarchy by 2025 so Ma's machinations will have been in vain.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: meememe on August 20, 2015, 08:30:47 am
Which groups are predicting that there won't be a monarchy in 10 years time?

I haven't seen any such suggestions - rather the opposite - that the British monarchy is entrenched into the British psyche to the extent that there will still be a monarchy in 2125.

I know that there are some people who are hopeful that the monarchy will end with the Queen's death (and that may not have happened in 10 years either by the way) but they are a very small percentage of the British population.

Republic - the main organisation that supports a republic has a membership of around 30,000 out of 60 million which is hardly a huge support base on which to build a movement to overthrow the monarchy within 10 years.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 20, 2015, 09:22:15 am
I think she will have more children as it cements her position and makes if more difficult for a divorce.


Diana had two children, one of whom is (unfortunately) in line to inherit the throne and it didn't prevent her divorce.  I waity's case the parentage of her children is debatable anyway so she could have 100 and they wouldn't cement her position in the RF


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 20, 2015, 09:24:48 am
^
I don't think that Kate would give in to a divorce. She will stick like glue.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 20, 2015, 02:13:25 pm
^
Waity is not in the position to decide anything. The rf is not a 'normal' family. Plus she caused more trouble than any other royal wife. It doesn't look good for her.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 20, 2015, 03:30:10 pm
If ER and TPTB decide it's divorce then for waity it wll be a question of "when" not "if". 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Princess Alucard on August 20, 2015, 10:14:34 pm
It would be funny if Will is one of the 37 million users on Ashley Madison   :tehe:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 20, 2015, 10:45:02 pm
What a truly delicious thought :bouncy:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on August 21, 2015, 12:11:58 am
Which groups are predicting that there won't be a monarchy in 10 years time?

I haven't seen any such suggestions - rather the opposite - that the British monarchy is entrenched into the British psyche to the extent that there will still be a monarchy in 2125.

I know that there are some people who are hopeful that the monarchy will end with the Queen's death (and that may not have happened in 10 years either by the way) but they are a very small percentage of the British population.

Republic - the main organisation that supports a republic has a membership of around 30,000 out of 60 million which is hardly a huge support base on which to build a movement to overthrow the monarchy within 10 years.


^Argumentative and provoking.  Watch the tone or it's a warning next time.  Also, in general, we're going off topic with this discussion.  YM


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 21, 2015, 02:24:11 am
There would have to be a reason for William to divorce Kate and as a wife she hasn't given one. She is not up to the plate as a member of the RF or the wife of a future head of state but as Mrs Wales she has not done anything to warrant a divorce.

I'm no fan of Kate but I really think that they would have a hard job to get rid of her without reason.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 21, 2015, 07:24:11 am
A reason? What about 'irreconcilable differences'.

Abandonnement could be another reason, we all know Kate and William hardly spend time together and that while AH wasn't finished yet, Kate spend most of her time with her parents and not with William in Wales or the cottage in the grounds of Kensington Palace.

Believe me, if William wants out, there will be plenty of reasons and the press will go all out against the Middletons and all the stories they didn't publish in the past in order to keep the fairytale alive will be published.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 21, 2015, 08:13:03 am
^ ITA.
If I remember correctly, right from the start of their marriage,  she was leaving willy in Wales and was in London more often than not so she has never been a real wife to willy.  As you say - if willy or the RF want her gone, gone she will be. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 21, 2015, 10:38:03 am
I think that she will be a much harder act to get rid of than Diana, Fergie or Mark Phillips.  Irreconcilable differences is not a reason for divorce in the UK. Unreasonable behaviour is.

Separation would mean that they would have to be separated for five years if Kate did not agree to the divorce.

I'm not a fan of Kate but I think that there would be sympathy for her especially if William played away. More sympathy for her than if Charles played away and ditched Camilla.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Val on August 21, 2015, 11:02:04 am
^

There are allegedly many unofficial ways the RF family use which would never get out in the open.   They are said to hold all the dirt on the Middletons and just one method would be to threaten them.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 21, 2015, 11:28:52 am
^ Agreed.  We are not talking about the likes of you or trying to get a divorce - with the RF everything is a whole different ball game. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 21, 2015, 12:19:35 pm
It would be an interesting scenario. James and Pippa would certainly need to polish up their CV's.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Diaphenous on August 21, 2015, 01:22:07 pm
You know when people have double weddings/  Perhaps the Cambridges and Middletons could have a double divorce!!!  Might save on lawyer's costs!!!     :cookie:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kibby3 on August 21, 2015, 02:16:16 pm
I agree that if Willy and the RF wanted her gone, she would have little choice but I don't really feel he wants her gone.  I don't think this is a fairy tale romance...more like an contractual agreement.  He needs someone on his arm from time to time and she needed the title and lifestyle that he provides.  If they split up, I don't foresee anyone beating down the door to take her place and I don't think he wants to be alone.  It would take Willy falling in love and wanting to spend his life with someone who also wanted that royal wife lifestyle for him to leave Kate.  Until then, they will live apart and show up for the occasional engagement to keep up appearances.  If only we could get so lucky and she could fade into the background...


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Freya on August 21, 2015, 02:49:36 pm
^
That's how I see it Kibby. She will put up with anything to maintain status and he needs someone. I can see them leading increasingly separate lives. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 22, 2015, 08:42:20 am
I think Willy doesn't want to follow in his father's footsteps. He's been trying to escapes his father's mistakes. He still abides by his determination but he is not happy and he seems not to be able to endure it for so long.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 22, 2015, 11:43:03 am
When the time is right cath medd and her family will have no say in the matter.  She will be booted out one day, and there is nowt she can do about it.  Cna´t come soon enough for many, including me.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on August 22, 2015, 01:40:42 pm
When the time is right cath medd and her family will have no say in the matter.  She will be booted out one day, and there is nowt she can do about it.  Cna´t come soon enough for many, including me.

Spot on. And can I ask? Are you a fellow Northener, GB?


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on August 22, 2015, 01:51:43 pm
^Hi.  Please don't quote the post directly above you or any near yours.  Use ^, ^^, ^^ instead.  Thank you!   :flower:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on August 22, 2015, 01:53:50 pm
Oops sorry Yooper - I will in future.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 22, 2015, 02:45:06 pm
^ Sorry, no, I am a southerner, however a colleague of mine is a northerner and I have picked up a few of her words and sayings.  I think she is from Bolton, or around that way.  Lovely woman, salt of the earth.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Whiffy Leaks on August 22, 2015, 02:47:45 pm
I went to Bolton School. :)


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: YooperModerator on August 22, 2015, 03:20:26 pm
^^^No problem and thank you!  Good general reminder opportunity for everybody.  YM


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: leogirl on August 26, 2015, 08:59:11 am
1. If William is having an affair, he needs to knock it off. Stop being a selfish narcissist, and keep it in your pants.  :thumbsdown:
2. William and Kate need to work things out. They promised to stay married and should keep to that promise. What's the point in getting married if you get divorced a few years later? I think they both need to step up their appearances. Keep themselves busy and there won't be time for affairs. If they've grown apart then doing appearances together should help them get reacquainted.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: starsailor on August 26, 2015, 12:34:18 pm
They are together for 14 years now. The difference between the time before the marriage and the time now is that he was able to treat her like a b**ty call. He didn't have to be seen with her in public (no royal engagements), hence it was easy to just 'use her'. But after the wedding she started to embarrass him and his family. This is the reason why a divorce is likely. It seems as if she's on her way out.  :bye:


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 26, 2015, 03:24:13 pm
Whoever they were, I do not wish them to stay together.  Leaving out the damage she has done and the laughing stock she has made of the rf, they are obviously totally unsuited in every way, very miserable and unhappy together. Can´t blame sprogs, money worries, having to work etc.  They have zero to think about, not even the washing up. The are the normal reasons given for an unhappy marriage.  So, it can only be them.  Look at it from his point of view  -  every last engagement/reception/dinner they have to go to, everyone there has seen all the most intimate parts of wasty  -  boobs, full frontal crotch, butt -  :ick: :ick:  How would that make a husband feel, especially one in the spotlight.  She appeared to be ogling Ben Ainslie´s crotch at Portsmouth the other week  She has no idea about decorum, etiquette, mixing with people, she does not try to fit in wit his family, doesn´t want to either from what we can see and hear.  She wants to drag bill medd down into the gutter with her.  She wants to ignore centuries old royal traditions  - why, they were all in place before she stalked him and got the rings. 

Okay they have two kids, the first one does not even seem to like being with them, grumpy, unhappy an always looking for the nanny, the person he spends 24/7 with it would seem.

Body language stone cold, if that jaw of his clenches any harder he will snap his jaw.  We do not get the impression they share the same house, and probably don´t.

Why condemn them both to a life of utter misery and unhappiness?  Okay, they made their bed, let them lie on it  -  maybe so, but things change, things don´t always work out.  We have one life to live, one only, and to stay in a relationship that makes you so unhappy and miserable that it even shows on engagements is insanity in my view.  If the relation ship is dead, the love has gone, how can it be revived. Sometimes a point is reach where there is no going back.  I see no harm or wrong in divorce, even for royals, far better to draw a line beneath it all and go your seperate ways.  Children can still be brought up properly, family get togethers  -  fergie and *nasty* pandy managed it.  I have zero respect for the royals, but I do also do not see why they should be forced to live a lie when everything has gone wrong. Divorce, swallow the bumpy ride, move on. As people often say, this is your life, not a dress rehearsal, why live in misery if you do not have to.  And that is how I feel with these two. They are obviously two very unhappy people, which I agree is of their own making, but still no reason to make them stay together when they can both move forward and be happy with someone else.

I know many will disagree with me, but this is just my opinion.  I have known many in a similar situation, they hang on in there, but one day it just gets too much, for their sanity they have to move forward seperately.   IMO there is no reason why these two cannot divorce when being together makes them so desperately unhappy.  I don´t care for either one of them, and one as daft as the other to go ahead with a wedding which appeared doomed to fail from the beginning, but they did it and now they might realise their mistake, I see no reason to chain them together for ever for that.

I do not approve of adultery, but two things here  -  (a) he could not keep his pants zipped for the 10 years she was stalking him, why did she think he would change, and (b) she has given him many reasons to look for what he wants elsewhere, and maybe after all her shenanigans, in many areas, he just thinks okay, why not.  She is not the wife she led him to believe he was getting, you could say that about many wives, but my God this one has been a major let down from the day of the nuptials.

If they need to divorce then fine,  set them free to tread another road and be happy, or at the very least content and peaceful.

Do I think bill medd would have an affair if married to a woman he truly loved and was happy with?  Possibly, he seems to have always got away with it, but then if he was truly happy and content maybe not.  Marrying, or at the very least being with camzilla, did not stop chucky to stop his affairs, phil the Greek never been faithful, not many have in that family, and that maybe is the example he works from.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: kolkomilko on August 26, 2015, 04:47:48 pm
^ Yes, I agree, why shall we force eternal marriage on them if they are not happy. The question is how much the Midds stick to the royal status, which is Carole's dream. I have a feeling that Willy wouldn't mind a divorce but he has promised a lot of silly things to Carole before the marriage. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 26, 2015, 05:57:58 pm
To be honest, I think the only ones with any say is this are HM and TPTB, in fact HM could well be over-ruled by TPTB, they may well be behind any divorce instructions.  If they decided divorce is the best way forward it does not matter what viper ma wants, or what bill medd has promised.  He can´t fulfill promises of titles, homes etc anyway, he has no power/authority to do that.  And when HM goes chucky has the power, and he can´t stand the medds, so viper ma could well have gasped her last before any opportunity arose for a title and other perks that only she thinks she is entitled to, nobody else and no other married in royal inlaws


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 26, 2015, 06:14:37 pm
ITA with above posters but whether we agree with divorce or not or whether we think they sshould stay toghether for whatever reason, as a UK taxpayer I want them gone, I want them to divorce unless they are forced or choose to leave the RF and lead completely private lives.  AS a divorced couple waity will be booted out of the RF as she is totally unsuitable for the RF and as future Queen Consort.  willy should be made to undertake his royal duties and take his responsibilities seriously or be told to follow waity into private life - no taxpayers money - either he can use his inheritance or his family can support him.   


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: leogirl on August 26, 2015, 08:39:19 pm
I don't think PW has a problem with the way Kate's been acting. She was doing the same sort of stuff while he was dating her (crotch shots at clubs, see-through skirt with visible thong while she was out going for a walk, disco outfit with short shorts and she fell into a very unladylike position) and he still married her. She is definitely his "type." Maybe the way she acts turns him on or something.  :ick:

I think it would be best if PW stepped down. He clearly doesn't want to work and neither does she. Let them live their lives as private citizens. That would solve the taxpayer problem. The reason I wrote about them stepping up is because I like to hope for the best, but I don't think that's ever going to happen with these two. I am not a fan of adultery, but he couldn't keep it in his pants while they were dating, so it's not like she didn't know what she was getting herself into. She probably doesn't care if he cheats on her. As she once told Chelsy, "It comes with the territory."

If PW divorced Kate, do you really think he'd find someone better? Decent women want nothing to do with him. This was proven during the breakup in 2007. He hasn't shown any signs of change since then and his situation has been made worse since then because he'd have a divorce on his record and two heirs, so she wouldn't even get the satisfaction of being mother to a future king/queen. Second marriages have higher divorce rates than first marriages, so it probably wouldn't last anyway. He still makes misogynistic jokes and would most likely cheat on his new wife. There is zero incentive for a decent woman to date or marry him. If he divorced Kate, he'd probably end up with a gold digger or some sort of former stripper or porn star. Kate may have her faults, but at least we don't have any s*x tapes of her.

IMO, they deserve each other. And if they hated each other as much as people think I don't think they would have gotten married.

I think PW is probably angry at the press more than he is with Kate. He always seems in a bad mood, he probably thinks they're stalking her and trying to kill her. He has made multiple threats and complaints about the way the paps treat her and now he's complaining about them taking photos of his children at public parks. He blames all paps for the death of his mother. Serious and irrational anger issues that haven't been resolved. Diana's death was 18 years ago, and the longer a wound goes unhealed, the more difficult it becomes to heal. He may never recover from his hatred of the press. Not a good trait for a future king.

I say, step up (do more appearances) or step down (abdicate), but they can't remain the way they are right now forever.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on August 27, 2015, 12:38:23 am
I agree.

The big mistake the Queen made was to present them with these lavish homes, numerous renovations and watch them build that tennis court. The Queen should have not given them rewards until they were earned. A full plate of work should have been given to them and unless they attended to them,no perks or vacations.

Kate's "winning William back" consisted of her going out clubbing wearing shorter skirts and grinning for cameras. So maybe William likes this sort of thing.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: FortressODaveBarry on August 27, 2015, 02:12:40 am
^^"She is definitely his "type." Maybe the way she acts turns him on or something  :ick: "

It probably did when they first started dating, when he was willing to chalk up her faults to "She's just Kate being Kate. Guys hit on her & that's so cool because I think that means they're envious of me! And omg she does whatever I want in bed  :loveshower:" But I think now he's reached the point of "Hot sex with this crazy person = I'm still stuck with a crazy person at the end of the day. I can get sex with less drama & no responsibilities elsewhere"


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on August 27, 2015, 06:48:12 am
To be honest, I think the only ones with any say is this are HM and TPTB, in fact HM could well be over-ruled by TPTB, they may well be behind any divorce instructions.  If they decided divorce is the best way forward it does not matter what viper ma wants, or what bill medd has promised.  He can´t fulfill promises of titles, homes etc anyway, he has no power/authority to do that.  And when HM goes chucky has the power, and he can´t stand the medds, so viper ma could well have gasped her last before any opportunity arose for a title and other perks that only she thinks she is entitled to, nobody else and no other married in royal inlaws

gingerboy (I just saw your Princess moniker - I thought you were male!):

I worry that CM will convince William to run a second, parallel court.  I think it's already happening.  I feel she is in William's ear at all times, subtly making suggestions, dropping hints, encouraging rebellion against QEII, the PofW, and TPTB.  I'm sure every major act of obstinacy, every new instance of "we're doing it this way, we're modern", every outrageous and unnecessary spend, is started with a word, or hints from CM.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 27, 2015, 12:55:27 pm
^ Maybe that is what she wants.  But being logical about it, bill medd would need to have approval and funding to set up a second court, and where will he get the funding from if HM and chucky do not approve the running of a second court.  Doubt fester could bankroll that, and bill medd never seems keen to dip his hands into his own trust fund does he.  If he gets external funding for a second court then it won´t do him much good if he has no access to the BP court, the two need to work together.  Also the little matter that HM, chucky and TPTB can throw him to the winds if they want to, he does not have that much clout in that food chain at the moment.  Doesn´t work to keep Lupo the dog, let alone his family, we, the taxpayers, do that.  Sadly, what ma wants she does not always get.  It is even possible by now that bill medd is sick of her demands.  The only info we get out of that camp is leaked by viper ma, and no way is she going to crack on to not being listened to any more.  What has bill medd achieved for them in over four years  -  nothing really.  The aristos have locked doors agains them, they are not welcome, no popping into BP weekly for afternoon tea with HM, no weekend stays at Highrove with chucky and camzilla.  No cozy Balmoral breaks with the royals, no Christmas Dinner with the royals. Bet bill medd has had an ear bashing about all them. She has chosen to leak and alienate the royals, and she must be even more stupid than we already think she is if she is unaware that the rf/TPTB are not aware of the game she is trying to play.  Never pays to try and back people into a corner, and that is what she is trying to do.  The only second court right now is viper ma thinking she will rule the roost for ever at AH until she moved into BP with bill and cath medd, and then she thinks she can rule the roost there.   What she thinks should happen and what happens are two very different things.  I would not lose any sleep on that one, too much to happen before then.  She can think what she likes, but you know what thought did? Thought it could and it couldn´t  :laugh:

I could be a Prince in Princess clothing!!!  No, definitely female.  I will forgive you as I have the name gingerboy   :tehe:.  I had a very much loved, and now very sadly departed, ginger cat, my feline soul mate  -  gingerboy is my way of keeping him with me. 


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: i used to be a monarchist on August 27, 2015, 01:43:58 pm
^
Princess GB, it was the name that threw me!

I too had a darling ginger boy many years ago.  My only cat.  Went to the RSPCA and he was the only kitten or cat that was actively trying for my attention.  He was 4 months old and batted me, paw to hand though the cage, going head over heels over and over again trying to reach out to me.  I fell in love then and there.  It was heartbreaking when he went a few years later - one of those feline bacterial infections - from a wound a neighbouring cat delivered.  So I know what you went through, the wonderful and the unbearably sad.  We've since had two dogs, a beautiful and noble border collie x and a mischievous, hilarious pug.

I do hope the second court doesn't come to pass and my wish is for the Middleton family to be removed from the equation.



Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 27, 2015, 01:47:27 pm
and chucky do not approve the running of a second court.   
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Considering that Charles already organised his own, second court, it is a bit hypocrite if he would be against a second court the moment William becomes Duke of Cornwall and gets the revenues to set up his own court.

But Charles and hypocrisy...a good fit (living green and taking the chopper to a polo-match) so perhaps he will throw a tantrum if William sets up his own court in the future. To be a fly on the wall when that happens because both Chuck and Willy are prima donna's and neither one will budge.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 27, 2015, 04:03:47 pm
I was writing with regard to it happening with HM still alive.  I think chucky very hypocritical about most things, as he has proved many times.  I I however think that would be hypocritical in this event because he would want his court to be the only one (once HM gone) for several reasons, the main one being he detests the medds and would want to see the back of them.  Allowing bill medd his own court would mean with medds en masse in tow, and I could be wrong but I cannot see chucky allowing them into the inner sanctum.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Fly on the wall on August 27, 2015, 04:50:08 pm
I don't think PW has a problem with the way Kate's been acting. She was doing the same sort of stuff while he was dating her (crotch shots at clubs, see-through skirt with visible thong while she was out going for a walk, disco outfit with short shorts and she fell into a very unladylike position) and he still married her. She is definitely his "type." Maybe the way she acts turns him on or something.  :ick:










Yup yup . William likes the way she acts turns him on the flashing the crotch shots he likes it they like it . Kate provides William with his his sexual kinks ,and she sticks it to the BRF being messy not being stuffy and a prude . The BRF can't do anything about it yeah they will moan and groan and release these artcles about how unhappy with Kate and William,but William will throw a tantrum and throw his trump card mummy.

That mummy card is wearing thin with the royal watchers the causal Royal watchers you can still get them with that card but the ones Royal  watchers who go deeper then the celeb glam it's not working.

As for William having an affair he did it while dating Kate never cared why would he stop now . William give her what she wanted title rich lifestyle easy life ,and William gets to run off and have his fun hunting .now sometimes when they out doing public events Kate will get snippy with him


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: leogirl on August 28, 2015, 10:26:58 am
Some people may comment that they are rarely seen together, he is away a lot, maybe they don't live together, etc. But that is how it was for the last five years they were dating (their post-uni years). He didn't marry her, so she couldn't move in and they didn't live together. He was away for a long time and everyone was hoping they were growing apart and eventually they'd announce a split and he'd find someone new. But every time someone speculated they were no longer together (a few months without new pics), they would suddenly appear at a club together, at some military event, some friend's wedding, etc. I think they like being separate a lot of the time. They probably each have their own "activities" that they like to do when the other one isn't around.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 28, 2015, 12:32:44 pm
They probably each have their own "activities" that they like to do when the other one isn't around.

Like any couple that are separated??


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: gingerboy24 on August 28, 2015, 02:10:30 pm
^Yes, it is exactly what separated couples do.  I would be very surprised it the rf allow bill medd and cath medd to continue dragging them into the sewers.  Their street cred at an all time low abroad and at home.  Unfortunately, whether HM, bill and cath medd et al like it, the decision as to whether they can be removed or not can be decided by higher powers than HM.  If they are to be removed, divorced or whatever, it will happen, whether it is what HM wants or not.  Contrary to what a lot of people think HM is answerable to, shall we say, people higher up than her.  I should think they must have pretty much had enough of the medd shenanigans, and none of us are invincible, in spite of what bill medd and his medd family think.  There is always a limit as to what they can get away with, and right now they are skating on very thin ice IMO.  And thin ice always breaks at some stage.

Let him has his affairs, who could blame him, I don´t, not with a vicious old hag like her at home.  His choice but she has definitely completely morphed into her mother big time since she got the rings.  She is no innocent and knew the score.  We don´t know what she gets up to do we.

HM knows the score, and what needs to be done, as do TPTB.  I believe it is a case of when, not if, this time bomb explodes.  Too many know too much, not just the UK but other overseas countries, powerful people who are in the know, who can press the button at any time. They are sitting on a ticking time bomb, and they have to know that, they have enough advisors and intelligent people around them.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 28, 2015, 02:32:49 pm
What a waste; I don't think William married her because he wanted an 'arrangement' or 'understanding.' If he had wanted that he would have married an upper class type and ended up marrying someone who knew how to do the job and could handle a mistress being in the picture. Since the wedding she hasn't really TRIED to be a wife/consort/helpmeet, she's been leeching off of him and making one mess after another.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 28, 2015, 06:06:18 pm
IMO willy didn't have a chance to marry an upper class girl - he dated a few but they weren't interested long term


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 28, 2015, 06:08:06 pm
Oh come on; if he had ejected Kate from his life and told Kate to stop following him around (a few calls to the police and Kate would be out for good) then I'm certain he would have had a real chance at dating him and possibly marrying him. If he had chosen a courtier to get Kate to back off Kate would be old news.

He has the resources to put a stop to ANYTHING that he doesn't like.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: empirestate on August 28, 2015, 08:52:49 pm
I believe that he never wanted to marry her. I'm not much for conspiracy theories but the guy didn't look happy to me at the wedding. I think he stuck with her because there was no one else. He's a spoiled brat and seriously screwed up in other ways, why would any upper crust girl want that? They're already rich, got the social connections and they're a cert to marry another aristocrat so what would extra money and a new title really do for them? Especially when you consider that marrying into that family, *especially* if it's to a Wales, condemns you to a lifetime of media intrusion? Serious dating means a couple years of being in the rags, along with having your name brought up as an ex forever and marrying (even if you divorce later) means having a camera jammed up your backside for life.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 28, 2015, 08:57:52 pm
Nothing was stopping him from dumping her and spending some time single; no one forced him to propose or marry her or anything.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: empirestate on August 28, 2015, 09:57:52 pm
^ Dumping her a second time after being together for the better part of a decade? No way. Not without some absolute show stopper of a rebound to steal the spotlight from Waity Katie. I think he was stuck between a rock and a hard place because breaking up would've made him look bad and her like a victim. Can you imagine the media swarm around the Midds? His parent's break up was bad but in today's age of social media it would've been a catastrophe from his point of view.

On top of that you have the issue of his still being alone with 30 on the horizon. Who would want to marry that paranoid brat? His brother is infinitely more personable and Chelsea couldn't stand the thought of joining that family. What chance did William have? He would've ended up in the same place as his father, having some random chick thrust upon him so he could produce an heir. Better to cut a deal with Kate and go out and have his fun than to risk making some other woman miserable and completely losing his luster as he ends up just like his parents. Kate was supposed to be the antithesis of all that. Mind you the shine has come off but that's because of a lack of effort but imagine how much worse it'd be if it was someone he didn't know.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: leogirl on August 28, 2015, 11:11:51 pm
They separated and got back together throughout their dating period. William was kissing girls at clubs and inviting them back to his barracks. Kate was seen leaving an ex's apartment in the wee hours of the morning (presumably, they spent the night together... she was acting very sneaky and did NOT want her photo taken). I think this is the way they like it.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: sandy on August 29, 2015, 01:08:23 am
^ Dumping her a second time after being together for the better part of a decade? No way. Not without some absolute show stopper of a rebound to steal the spotlight from Waity Katie. I think he was stuck between a rock and a hard place because breaking up would've made him look bad and her like a victim. Can you imagine the media swarm around the Midds? His parent's break up was bad but in today's age of social media it would've been a catastrophe from his point of view.

On top of that you have the issue of his still being alone with 30 on the horizon. Who would want to marry that paranoid brat? His brother is infinitely more personable and Chelsea couldn't stand the thought of joining that family. What chance did William have? He would've ended up in the same place as his father, having some random chick thrust upon him so he could produce an heir. Better to cut a deal with Kate and go out and have his fun than to risk making some other woman miserable and completely losing his luster as he ends up just like his parents. Kate was supposed to be the antithesis of all that. Mind you the shine has come off but that's because of a lack of effort but imagine how much worse it'd be if it was someone he didn't know.

Nobody was "thrust" upon Charles. He actively sought out suitable ladies not "random chicks." Charles was not forced to marry Diana, he found a young aristo to be the broodmare and she filled the bill

I think William wanted Kate because she enabled his lazy lifestyle. I doubt other women would have waited out the ten years doing very little in the way of work.


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: marion on August 29, 2015, 02:51:12 pm
The trouble with Charles was that he spent so long dithering that it got to the stage where he just had to gt married and produce an heir - by then the arostos that were of an age to be his wife were already married  - Diana fitted the bill in that she had an "unblemished" past


Title: Re: Is William having an affair?
Post by: logically on August 29, 2015, 11:35:34 pm
^  always thought has, is and will be unfaithful.