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Title: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 18, 2013, 11:49:10 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10066234/Next-coronation-to-involve-other-faiths-besides-Christianity.html
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Church of England leaders have accepted the need to be “hospitable” to other faiths within any future service at Westminster Abbey, in order to reflect the spiritual diversity of modern Britain.

The Church has resisted calls for a multi-faith service in recent years, preferring to stress that the Christian nature of the coronation is preserved by law.

Senior church figures told this newspaper t that it was now accepted that other faiths should be recognised within the coronation service for the first time.
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The Church considers the coronation to be a royal ordination, setting apart the monarch for a sacred purpose under God, and will resist any compromise of that.

The ceremony contains elements dating back to 963, and is always written by the Archbishop of Canterbury, currently the Most Rev Justin Welby. The service is held at Westminster Abbey under the leadership of the Earl Marshal, currently the Duke of Norfolk, with the assistance of the Dean of Westminster, the Very Rev Dr John Hall.

The Coronation Oath Act of 1689 requires the monarch to swear to uphold the Protestant faith, and the ceremony includes Christian sacraments such as Holy Communion and the anointing of the monarch by the Archbishop. Those will remain intact.

Any changes will, none the less, be a dramatic break with the past. Dr Robert Morris of the constitution unit at University College London said: “Essentially, the last coronation was a straight rerun of what had gone before, over the centuries. It was an Anglican Christian service. No Popery allowed, etc. The Archbishop of Canterbury refused to give space to any of the other Churches, let alone faiths.”

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There was some consternation in the Church seven years ago when it was reported that the Prince of Wales would like a multi-faith service to follow the Christian one, with readings and prayers by people of the Muslim, Sikh and Jewish faiths.

Dr Hall went further in 2006, saying: “The coronation service needs to find the right way of including people of other faiths. It must be different in some ways because of the nature of society and how things have changed.” The archbishop at the time, Dr Rowan Williams, was opposed, saying: “I am not a believer in multi-faith services.”

With all the recent articles pushing Camilla & Charles. Talking about Charles taking over the Queen's duties and some talking about the Queens health. There are even articles that lean towards mean about the Queen.

Is Charles the one pushing so hard behind this campaign? If he is who is his hatchet man doing the dirty work?


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 19, 2013, 12:29:10 am
I think Charles is doing, with a guess that Camilla is pushing. Mean to the Queen, Charles PR ? given how bad a job he thinks Mummy did , living in the past about it.
OR
This hiding children thing, not being able to leave UK. Whatever the deal with the Pope is also being blamed for. If they really think she could be arrested ! better to remove her

Given Charles and Camilla are adultery, can they do holy communion ? be head of the church ?


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Stephanie on May 19, 2013, 12:56:32 am
I think Chuck is behind this.
The whole thing about other religions( modernize the monarchy) is way beyond Camzilla's MO.
She is not so concrete and direct in her way to undermine people.
She likes it more to discredit people( Diana) by making them seen insane or something like that.
Never something that can be checked or discussed in a logical or deductive manner!
She likes to scatter around some poison and then see who reacts while staying out of the spotlight herself.
This is of Chuck's making BUT is influenced by Camzilla.
He wants that crown and he knows she wants it.
After all, it has been her sole purpose for the past 35 years.
They are both aging fast and might even have health problems.
Chuck is willing to betray anyone, his wife(Diana) his sons and his mother to get his meddling whiney hands on that crown and put it on his undeserving mistress/nanny's adulterous head before he dies or is otherwise incapacitated. :ick:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: meememe on May 19, 2013, 01:00:34 am
I think Charles is doing, with a guess that Camilla is pushing. Mean to the Queen, Charles PR ? given how bad a job he thinks Mummy did , living in the past about it.
OR
This hiding children thing, not being able to leave UK. Whatever the deal with the Pope is also being blamed for. If they really think she could be arrested ! better to remove her

Given Charles and Camilla are adultery, can they do holy communion ? be head of the church ?


Of course they can - they confessed their sins before God and the world - just because some people can't forgive them doesn't mean that God hasn't forgiven them. The ones who can't forgive of course aren't Christians as Christians are taught to 'forgive those who sin against' them.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 19, 2013, 01:09:44 am
Forgiveness was for Diana to give.

What we do is not forgetting what type of man he is and it has nothing to do with being or not being a Christian.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 19, 2013, 01:18:04 am
Charles is meant to be a leader of faith and country. If the clergy are without sin, so should the leader of the Britain and the church of England

I do not forgive Upchuck and nor am I religious anymore, due to the examples the heads of the church have displayed.
Treating Diana the way they did, cannot be forgiven

I think if Chuck is feeling old and mortal, he might be on the push


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: meememe on May 19, 2013, 02:29:45 am
I feel so sorry for people who don't have the capacity to forgive as they are lacking a soul and lacking humanity.

No human is without sin - everyone, even the Pope and the church leaders sin - they also ask forgiveness and a true Christian is able to forgive. Charles and Camilla made their confession publicly and before God - we aren't asked to do anymore in the CoE - actually we aren't required to ask forgiveness publicly but in our hearts and minds - not to a priest like Roman Catholics do - as CoE believe that we can ask forgiveness etc directly from God.

If Diana couldn't forgive then she wasn't a Christian and therefore wouldn't be in Heaven as only those who follow Christ and his teachings - including forgiveness can go to Heaven.  However, she herself took 50% of the blame for the marriage breakdown and said that she hoped Charles would make an honest woman of Camilla before she died suggesting that she had forgiven them - and her sons also seem to have forgiven Charles and Camilla, and hopefully Diana, for the incredible hurt they caused each other in that public breakup.

I also find it funny, laughable actually, that people who weren't involved in the marriage can't forgive Charles for hurting Diana. I wonder if they are able to forgive Diana for the hurt she caused Charles. Charles didn't do anything to those people that he should even think about having to ask them for their forgiveness.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Freya on May 19, 2013, 03:39:18 am
^
The British public and the rest of the world were sold the fairy tale. I bought into it and we had a party at work on the day before the wedding and a party at home on the wedding day. I genuinely believed that Charles thought enough of Diana to live with her for the rest of his life. IMO people feel that they were fooled over the wedding. He should have had the balls to stay single.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 19, 2013, 05:05:33 am
I feel so sorry for people who don't have the capacity to forgive as they are lacking a soul and lacking humanity.

No human is without sin - everyone, even the Pope and the church leaders sin - they also ask forgiveness and a true Christian is able to forgive. Charles and Camilla made their confession publicly and before God - we aren't asked to do anymore in the CoE - actually we aren't required to ask forgiveness publicly but in our hearts and minds - not to a priest like Roman Catholics do - as CoE believe that we can ask forgiveness etc directly from God.

If Diana couldn't forgive then she wasn't a Christian and therefore wouldn't be in Heaven as only those who follow Christ and his teachings - including forgiveness can go to Heaven.  However, she herself took 50% of the blame for the marriage breakdown and said that she hoped Charles would make an honest woman of Camilla before she died suggesting that she had forgiven them - and her sons also seem to have forgiven Charles and Camilla, and hopefully Diana, for the incredible hurt they caused each other in that public breakup.

I also find it funny, laughable actually, that people who weren't involved in the marriage can't forgive Charles for hurting Diana. I wonder if they are able to forgive Diana for the hurt she caused Charles. Charles didn't do anything to those people that he should even think about having to ask them for their forgiveness.

WTF are you rambling on about religion for. Who gives a sh*t if Charles is going to burn in hell for all the unchristian things he has done? This thread is not about religion and if you are a preacher just get your A$$ off the pulpit because this is a forum about royalty. If you want to preach there is a thread for that.

How dare you feel so superior that you feel the right to judge everyone who does not share your beliefs to eternal damnation. Different cultures have different beliefs and there is no requirement in life that everyone has to believe your way.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: meememe on May 19, 2013, 06:01:59 am
Of course people have a right to their beliefs, just as I have a right to mine - mine are Christian beliefs that include forgiveness.

As for whether Charles will burn in hell - if he does for adultery so will Diana - but I don't believe that either will - why - because I believe that they were sorry for their actions, sought forgiveness from each other and God and that is enough for me.

As for you attack on me - as part of my Christian faith I am able to forgive you for your attack and will pray that you are able to be more understanding of other people's beliefs and cultures than you showed in that post.

As for why religion came into this - there is a simple answer - Mysha asked if Charles and Camilla can take communion having committed adultery so I explained that having confessed their sins to God they are free to take communion.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 19, 2013, 06:58:52 am
 :laugh:    :laugh:    :laugh:  Some might call you a self righteous old biddy but I guess it wouldn't matter because you are so filled with forgiveness. 

:announcement:  The spiritual adviser has arrived.   :weird:

All that sugary sweetness and sunshine is just   :ick:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 19, 2013, 12:00:53 pm
I feel so sorry for people who don't have the capacity to forgive as they are lacking a soul and lacking humanity.

No human is without sin - everyone, even the Pope and the church leaders sin - they also ask forgiveness and a true Christian is able to forgive. Charles and Camilla made their confession publicly and before God - we aren't asked to do anymore in the CoE - actually we aren't required to ask forgiveness publicly but in our hearts and minds - not to a priest like Roman Catholics do - as CoE believe that we can ask forgiveness etc directly from God.

If Diana couldn't forgive then she wasn't a Christian and therefore wouldn't be in Heaven as only those who follow Christ and his teachings - including forgiveness can go to Heaven.  However, she herself took 50% of the blame for the marriage breakdown and said that she hoped Charles would make an honest woman of Camilla before she died suggesting that she had forgiven them - and her sons also seem to have forgiven Charles and Camilla, and hopefully Diana, for the incredible hurt they caused each other in that public breakup.

I also find it funny, laughable actually, that people who weren't involved in the marriage can't forgive Charles for hurting Diana. I wonder if they are able to forgive Diana for the hurt she caused Charles. Charles didn't do anything to those people that he should even think about having to ask them for their forgiveness.

WTF are you rambling on about religion for. Who gives a sh*t if Charles is going to burn in hell for all the unchristian things he has done? This thread is not about religion and if you are a preacher just get your A$$ off the pulpit because this is a forum about royalty. If you want to preach there is a thread for that.

How dare you feel so superior that you feel the right to judge everyone who does not share your beliefs to eternal damnation. Different cultures have different beliefs and there is no requirement in life that everyone has to believe your way.


 :goodpost:

I felt judged.My husband married me and forgot to tell me he was addicted to porn and young girls.I cannot forgive , so I must burn in hell...............Felt a little worthless after that sermon

Charles had no right to lie to the public and make us believe in his marriage and faithful to his wife
If he cannot tell the truth ( forget forgiveness ) as he continues to lie, he cannot be faithful to his wife ( so how does he remain faithful to his country ) ?
Looking at the state of them, I wonder about Upchucks health and he will rot in hell for lies and constant deception
If Chuckles is a little unwell, he may push his mother or spike her food. I feel Phil is in his last year or two of life. Not sure the Queen will be that upset with that lying,rude,cheating man. It might give her a bit extra life.....now wouldn't that make PC spiral ? lol

I think C&C will never make it, they will prove mortal and gotta love karma
think William without WK will be next King, briefly



Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Freya on May 19, 2013, 02:47:00 pm
The Queen role is mainly ceremonial and can be delegated whilst she still remains the figurehead. Victoria was not seen by the public for years and still remained Queen. I don't think that the Queen needs to be visible that often and certainly should delegate the long hauls to the younger royals. Harry is becoming a big asset and Bea and Eugenie could take some some responsibilities.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: berlin on May 19, 2013, 02:58:20 pm
But Charles and Camilla still sling mud at Diana, so have they truly repented and turned from their sins?


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 19, 2013, 03:45:04 pm
^ Exactly neither has shown any type of remorse for their actions. IMO that is a requirement for forgiveness.

Charles has always felt he is the most important and had little PR wars with his Mum's court which just showed his lack of respect.

I think he is behind all these news articles coming out recently and I hope it blows up in his face in a very big way.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Ruby Slipper on May 19, 2013, 04:39:56 pm
I'm not concerned with whether the public "forgive" C&C. The fact remains that people remember what happened and what they have done. A person can forgive and still continue to be wary of someone else because of their history of hurtful actions. Forgiving does not mean forgetting everything.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 19, 2013, 10:51:47 pm
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/charles-as-prince-regent-possibility-raises-a-puzzle-for-canada-1.1288204
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As Canadians prepare to celebrate Victoria Day, the official date of birthday honours for the reigning monarch, there is increasing speculation that Queen Elizabeth is about to make a decision that could have constitutional implications for Canada.

When Queen Elizabeth II opened the British parliament last week, her son, Prince Charles, was in attendance for the first time in 17 years, along with his wife Camilla.

Some royal watchers interpret the couple’s presence as a signal that the 87-year-old monarch might be preparing to offload some of her duties by elevating Charles to a prince regent.

Another story pushing Charles to be in charge.   bignono



Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Jane23 on May 19, 2013, 11:39:56 pm
Chuck doesn't control the press they *despise* on him like their life depends on it ...and please...if he did his phone conversations wouldn't have been public and Harry's (incredible) behind wouldn't have graced the cover of The Sun!!! Plus he has The Guardian to keep him humble  lol.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: buflesse on May 20, 2013, 02:49:23 am
:laugh:    :laugh:    :laugh:  Some might call you a self righteous old biddy but I guess it wouldn't matter because you are so filled with forgiveness. 

:announcement:  The spiritual adviser has arrived.   :weird:

All that sugary sweetness and sunshine is just   :ick:

 :laugh: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: CathyJane on May 20, 2013, 03:01:33 am
I would put nothing passed upchucky or zilla. They are both devious and just plain selfish and mean.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: rosielinks on May 20, 2013, 08:21:00 am
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Jane23 on May 20, 2013, 08:29:30 am
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.

 :goodpost:.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Freya on May 20, 2013, 09:48:33 am
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/20/article-2327323-19E253E8000005DC-104_964x319.jpg

Is this a bit more of Charles PR at work? This article has shown the Queen in a very bad light and there are a number of derogatory comments from people who have taken the story at face value.

There are numerous articles at the moment that are scoring off the Queen and Diana. If this is Charles PR team at work it is a very shoddy business?


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Stephanie on May 20, 2013, 11:54:13 am
http://www.tntmagazine.com/news/australia-news/sarah-ferguson-and-prince-charles-aussies-least-trusted-royals
It isn't working! :laugh:
People don't trust Chuck and rightly so.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 20, 2013, 01:00:40 pm
His PR team are almost done on the next PR stuff..here goes

For your chance to win a trip to Paris, luxury limo with driver ,taking in all sights and tunnels of the French capital

You just have to answer this question

Whose was Prince Charles's love
1. Mable
2. Diana
3. Camzilla
4. Himself

Phone 0845 00000 or text 1, 2, 3, or 4 to 070000000 or email Chucklesprstunt@ego.UK :king:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: sandy on May 20, 2013, 03:33:06 pm
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.

Well they got rid of William's mother. Sorry don't see C and C as heroic, just a pair of ghouls. I'll never root for these two. Ever.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: sandy on May 20, 2013, 03:38:32 pm
I feel so sorry for people who don't have the capacity to forgive as they are lacking a soul and lacking humanity.

No human is without sin - everyone, even the Pope and the church leaders sin - they also ask forgiveness and a true Christian is able to forgive. Charles and Camilla made their confession publicly and before God - we aren't asked to do anymore in the CoE - actually we aren't required to ask forgiveness publicly but in our hearts and minds - not to a priest like Roman Catholics do - as CoE believe that we can ask forgiveness etc directly from God.

If Diana couldn't forgive then she wasn't a Christian and therefore wouldn't be in Heaven as only those who follow Christ and his teachings - including forgiveness can go to Heaven.  However, she herself took 50% of the blame for the marriage breakdown and said that she hoped Charles would make an honest woman of Camilla before she died suggesting that she had forgiven them - and her sons also seem to have forgiven Charles and Camilla, and hopefully Diana, for the incredible hurt they caused each other in that public breakup.

I also find it funny, laughable actually, that people who weren't involved in the marriage can't forgive Charles for hurting Diana. I wonder if they are able to forgive Diana for the hurt she caused Charles. Charles didn't do anything to those people that he should even think about having to ask them for their forgiveness.

Charles went through a penitential rite. It was a "blanket" penance. Charles never publicly apologized for his behavior to his first wife and for poaching other men's wives.  I doubt he ever said I'm sorry to Diana. And he never took any percentage of blame for the marriage, his spin indicates he's not sorry and it was Diana's fault and everybody else but him.  Bill Clinton Publicly apologized for hurting his wife by cheating. Camilla IMO was never sorry because she was all set to waltz into Diana's Memorial Service (which would have detracted from the purpose of it) and was only kept out by public opinion. She grins in triumph. I don't think these two are the least bit sorry.

How the boys feel about her is subject to speculation. Diana saying she hoped Charles would marry  Camilla is hearsay. But at that point I don't think she cared, she probably thought herself well out of it.

I think the hurt that Charles caused Diana is left out of your post. I think the "hurt" Diana inflicted was complaining about Charles playing house with Camilla. I guess she should have just sat back and took it and kissed Charles goodbye when he went to sleep with his mistress, like a good wife should.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Cressida on May 20, 2013, 03:55:30 pm
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.

Well they got rid of William's mother. Sorry don't see C and C as heroic, just a pair of ghouls. I'll never root for these two. Ever.

I'm with you Sandy - awful, selfish pair. I and many others I know will not support him as monarch and I will not be singing the national anthem if it is about him.  :angry:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 20, 2013, 04:14:20 pm
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.

Well they got rid of William's mother. Sorry don't see C and C as heroic, just a pair of ghouls. I'll never root for these two. Ever.


I'm with you Sandy - awful, selfish pair. I and many others I know will not support him as monarch and I will not be singing the national anthem if it is about him.  :angry:



God Save The King (standard version) *** never
God save our gracious King **** never
Long live our noble King **** he is not and I do not wish this
God save the King!
Send him victorious,**** cheated and adultery ......nopes
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:******* i pray not
God save The King!******* nope again
O Lord our God arise,
Scatter his enemies,******* he pops them off or de-throne them
And make them fall:
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix:
God save us all.
Thy choicest gifts in store,
On he be pleased to pour;
Long may he reign:
May he defend our laws,****Upchuck does not adbide by them
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the King !


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 20, 2013, 05:33:23 pm
His PR team are almost done on the next PR stuff..here goes

For your chance to win a trip to Paris, luxury limo with driver ,taking in all sights and tunnels of the French capital

You just have to answer this question

Whose was Prince Charles's love
1. Mable
2. Diana
3. Camzilla
4. Himself

Phone 0845 00000 or text 1, 2, 3, or 4 to 070000000 or email Chucklesprstunt@ego.UK :king:

I text 4. Do I win? What do I win? I hope it is not a ticket to the Coronation. If it is I decline.   :tehe:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Emperor on May 20, 2013, 05:35:43 pm
mysha, i would dearly love the read the uncencored version of that but I do believe it to be a bit more vulgar than my tastes.

^ You " win a trip to Paris, luxury limo with driver ,taking in all sights and tunnels of the French capital"

Lets just hope the driver isn't drunk


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 20, 2013, 05:57:22 pm
 :laugh:

I read the prize and then forgot it .   lol  Age you know. Anyway I decline the prize and gift it to Camilla or Kate.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: scarlett on May 20, 2013, 06:01:04 pm
^ ha! Good idea, Snokitty.

@ sandy  :worship: Great post!


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: CathyJane on May 20, 2013, 09:51:59 pm
:laugh:

I read the prize and then forgot it .   lol  Age you know. Anyway I decline the prize and gift it to Camilla or Kate.

Aww Snokitty you are such a nice person to give your prize to two very hardworking wonderful women.  :P


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Emperor on May 21, 2013, 12:33:09 am
^ @ Snokitty, And the Lord said "Whoever has a bountiful eye will be blessed, for he shares his bread with the poor".


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: buflesse on May 21, 2013, 01:57:21 am
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/20/article-2327323-19E253E8000005DC-104_964x319.jpg

Is this a bit more of Charles PR at work? This article has shown the Queen in a very bad light and there are a number of derogatory comments from people who have taken the story at face value.

There are numerous articles at the moment that are scoring off the Queen and Diana. If this is Charles PR team at work it is a very shoddy business?

Which story was this from?


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 21, 2013, 02:59:16 am
Myabe Charles is eager for kingship so he can deal with his dipwit eldest son.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Freya on May 21, 2013, 08:00:07 am
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/20/article-2327323-19E253E8000005DC-104_964x319.jpg

Is this a bit more of Charles PR at work? This article has shown the Queen in a very bad light and there are a number of derogatory comments from people who have taken the story at face value.

There are numerous articles at the moment that are scoring off the Queen and Diana. If this is Charles PR team at work it is a very shoddy business?

Which story was this from?

boy-actress-fulfills-wish-dress-Queen-come-round-tea.html?offset=100&max=100#comment-31338802

Sorry I thought that I had pasted the URL. This story is about a young Downs Syndrome boy who is dying of cancer and one of his wishes was to go to Buckingham Palace and meet the Queen. BP was contacted but the request was declined so Helen Mirren (who plays the Queen) invited him to her show and met him backstage with the corgis for tea.
This is a very heat wrenching tale and the Queen does not come off very well for declining this boy's request. I doubt very much if the Queen was aware but once she sees one dying child it will set a precedent and she would not be able to deal with every request. This story is however very bad PR for HM.

I do think that the RF should work more as a team rather than separate camps. The Queen is getting older and cannot undertake all the duties. Some of the work needs to be shared out a bit more.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 21, 2013, 11:39:01 am
I think Charles is proud of his dimwit son because he acts just like Charles. They also seem to like the same kind of woman Lazy & sex availability, then send them back home. Kate to Ma & Pa with Camilla going to Raymill House. Yes William is Charles's clone right down to the bald head.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: sandy on May 21, 2013, 03:18:45 pm
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/20/article-2327323-19E253E8000005DC-104_964x319.jpg

Is this a bit more of Charles PR at work? This article has shown the Queen in a very bad light and there are a number of derogatory comments from people who have taken the story at face value.

There are numerous articles at the moment that are scoring off the Queen and Diana. If this is Charles PR team at work it is a very shoddy business?

Which story was this from?

boy-actress-fulfills-wish-dress-Queen-come-round-tea.html?offset=100&max=100#comment-31338802

Sorry I thought that I had pasted the URL. This story is about a young Downs Syndrome boy who is dying of cancer and one of his wishes was to go to Buckingham Palace and meet the Queen. BP was contacted but the request was declined so Helen Mirren (who plays the Queen) invited him to her show and met him backstage with the corgis for tea.
This is a very heat wrenching tale and the Queen does not come off very well for declining this boy's request. I doubt very much if the Queen was aware but once she sees one dying child it will set a precedent and she would not be able to deal with every request. This story is however very bad PR for HM.

I do think that the RF should work more as a team rather than separate camps. The Queen is getting older and cannot undertake all the duties. Some of the work needs to be shared out a bit more.

I don't think Charles would rush to help either. He after all let his own son  (then 13 year old) Harry have access to the liquor cabinets at Highgrove while he was away in Scotland with Camilla.

Lazy William would have to get involved if the work is shared. Charles can't take on HIS duties and his mother's at his age--he's not a spring chicken. Kate also needs to share the work obviously.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: CathyJane on May 21, 2013, 08:56:08 pm
I think Charles is proud of his dimwit son because he acts just like Charles. They also seem to like the same kind of woman Lazy & sex availability, then send them back home. Kate to Ma & Pa with Camilla going to Raymill House. Yes William is Charles's clone right down to the bald head.

Absolutely right. Chucky & Willy - the dimwit duo.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 22, 2013, 12:16:00 am
Lets call a spade a spade...................Upchuck and Wimpo aka Batman and Robin. King Tampon always thought he was a crime fighter and he thinks he lives in Wayne Manor. It is only a problem if he thinks he is Tony Stark and Camilla is Pepper


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 22, 2013, 12:35:10 am
^ @ Snokitty, And the Lord said "Whoever has a bountiful eye will be blessed, for he shares his bread with the poor".

I guess I just don't see your point here.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Tatiana on May 22, 2013, 02:15:23 am
   Oh God please spare our gracious Queen , and keep these self centered hypocrites from the throne.. AMEN.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: sandy on May 22, 2013, 03:31:18 pm
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/401479/The-heir-to-the-throne-has-learned-what-love-means

It seems Chris Middleton is bucking for a knighthood.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 22, 2013, 04:26:17 pm
Charles & William like their women with no brains and are just there as an ornament. The way Camilla walks behind Charles all the time instead of beside him shows that theirs is not an equal relationship.   bignono


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 22, 2013, 04:34:00 pm
I believe this pic was a forced set up....just saying


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 22, 2013, 04:43:57 pm
I have seen Harry give strangers a better hug than he gave Charles. It sure looks staged just like Charles & William joining together to fight the killing of wildlife was all for PR purposes. Can you imagine the royals being against killing wildlife.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/prince-i-ll-leave-britain-over-fox-hunt-ban-1-1377082
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PRINCE Charles has sparked an explosive clash between the monarchy and the government after launching an outspoken attack on the Prime Minister over plans to ban fox hunting.

On the eve of today’s Countryside Alliance march in London, it was revealed that the heir to the throne wrote to Tony Blair expressing anger at the government for pursuing plans to outlaw the bloodsport in England.

It is understood the Prince, a passionate hunt supporter, told Blair that he "would not dare attack an ethnic minority in the way that supporters of fox hunting were being persecuted."

In an outburst overheard by a senior politician, the Prince is also alleged to have said: "If Labour bans hunting I’ll leave Britain and spend the rest of my life skiing."

http://inconvenientprinciples.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/princephilliptiger.jpg


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Tatiana on May 23, 2013, 08:08:46 pm
   I do have to say that Camilla is quite the most hideous ornamental wife I have ever seen    :tehe:


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: buflesse on May 24, 2013, 03:30:58 pm
Charles & William like their women with no brains and are just there as an ornament. The way Camilla walks behind Charles all the time instead of beside him shows that theirs is not an equal relationship.   bignono

I thought that was royal protocol? Isn't WK supposed to walk slightly behind PW? PP also does it. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162560-13B7F95A000005DC-154_470x634.jpg


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 24, 2013, 08:19:28 pm
It is royal protocol but they keep telling us that this is the modern Monarchy. They should walk side by side.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Magnolia on May 26, 2013, 01:58:59 am
We need PC and Cams to deal with the Midds once HM is gone. I am relying on them for this. PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes, so PC and Cams need to step up to the plate. I am hoping they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky. I'm not sure WK realises how ruthless they can be. I wouldn't like to be in her shoes.
Can it be like now!


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 26, 2013, 10:21:43 am
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PP's strength and focus is more or less gone, HM never interferes,

Which is why I think Charles is eager to take the throne; he has the cunning, wit, ruthlessness, and ability to work with the courtiers that reminds me of his grandmother, the Queen Mother who was never at odds with the courtiers. She knew how to use them.

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they are watching and waiting - and are prepared to be very sneaky.

I think C/C have learned from the mistakes that they made with Diana and are this time going to make sure all bases are covered. They have learned not to pick a fight, not to go on an interview and criticize, and they are going to let WK pick all the fights in the world and burn herself out. I don't know what Charles will do to his son (ties of blood are fierce), but I am sure he's fantasizing with the courtiers about all the stuff they'll do to Waity once they get the chance.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 26, 2013, 11:17:18 am
I think Charles likes Kate how could he not she has a lot of Camilla's traits.   8)


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 26, 2013, 12:04:48 pm
Kate is jeopardizing his inheritance; people want the whole thing abolished after HM, which means that Charles might not be crowned King.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 26, 2013, 01:25:53 pm
Yes but people don't want Charles because he is a hypocritical idiot. I do think William & Kate have made people start to prefer Charles over his heir but that is only because they have no choice.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: mysha on May 26, 2013, 05:06:21 pm
We could cope with Upchuck if there was no Camz. We camz I would prefer to abolish it all after HM


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 26, 2013, 10:26:57 pm
I think Charles will be a terrible King but I also think he will be better than William. The Monarchy needs to bypass both of them and select Harry or Beatrice but they won't.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Emperor on May 26, 2013, 10:52:39 pm
^ With the way he meddles in affairs of state? There are a couple of topics on this forum dealing with his meddling, lobbying and interfering. PW doesn't do that ... yet. These matters are way over his head. While I agree with you that I'd prefer Harry or Bea, I don't believe there will be a monarchy after PC.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: Snokitty on May 26, 2013, 11:04:43 pm
I hope there is not a Monarchy after the Queen.


Title: Re: Is Charles Using The Press To Pressure The Queen?
Post by: buflesse on May 27, 2013, 01:30:40 am
^Me too.  :nervous: