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Title: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 09, 2010, 07:50:08 pm
they are unhurt  what relief!!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7332007.html

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/8730342.Prince_Charles__car_attacked_by_mob/


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 09, 2010, 08:01:00 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337088/TUITION-FEES-VOTE-PROTEST-Thousands-students-descend-Parliament.html


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2010, 08:03:56 pm
cripes. I'm glad Charles and Camilla wasn't hurt.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Princess Alucard on December 09, 2010, 08:26:20 pm
The protesting looks pretty crazy , glad they're ok.  :nervous:


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 09, 2010, 08:38:46 pm
I, too, am VERY glad they weren't hurt.  That's excellent news.  The bad news is that people are finally getting it that there isn't any money!  And it's global.  I don't see any of this calming down for a long while.  

As an American I can fully understand why the students are as upset as they are, but, also, as an American, our tuition rates are higher than they are in Great Britain.  My son will be paying $2k a month for 10 years to pay off his school loans.  Granted, he's an attorney, but my youngest, who had a four-year degree paid $24k/year.  That's not including books, living expenses, et al.  

Now, even with an education, there aren't any jobs waiting for these young people.  Scary times and worthy of more attention than some social climber working out on her rowing machine to look pretty in her wedding gown.  


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Earth Angel on December 09, 2010, 08:42:02 pm
I'm glad they're okay too, but their minders should have seen this coming from a mile away!(pun intended) Their people are becoming more and more hostile and the the royals are bound to be targeted, considering their lavish, well-to-do lifestyle. I think it's crazy to be planning a big wedding and street celebration, considering the current hostility that's bound to only get worse before it gets better. The royals now need to be protected from terrorists and their own people whom are struggling to come to terms with all the cutbacks. Not the type of sociopolitical atmosphere I'd want to have a lavish wedding in. Carnival-like chaos is sure to happen, imo. A big royal wedding anytime soon is not wise. Even if the decision to marry Kate was partly based on sociopolitical factors, the current sociopolitical happenings in England should have given pause to a lavish show or royal ado!!!!  :cold:


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Chloe on December 09, 2010, 08:50:10 pm
I’m not surprised.  

From what I’ve seen, they were living into an other world for years then they’ve moved into an other galaxy with the attitude of both princes & that announcement with that WK lazy nobody girl.

They could find 20m£ to finance that but not students fees or people who lost their job&home and can’t even afford to feed their own children?  LOL
The whole world was hanging on every tiny bits about that announcement.  Then the whole world was totally excited when they heard about it, since the economic crisis of 2007... then after the what happened to Greece, Ireland... and awaiting of what will happen to Spain & Portugal.

When some say that the press is hard with them (esp. with Charles), frankly they’re very, very,very nice to him compared to what the people I’ve met think about him or the RF.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 09, 2010, 08:51:06 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/09/world/main7134510.shtml

see photo..


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 09, 2010, 08:53:39 pm
Earth Angel - I'm totally on board with you there.  Even if this was the most fabulously awaited wedding in the world, it's the absolute worst timing ever and should be scaled waaaaay back.  I'll be shocked if HRH doesn't demand it.  If for no other reason than the safety of her own people.    

People are mad!  People are hungry!  And they aren't going to stomach a whole bunch of tiaras when they've tightened their belts as much as possible. We have the same issues here in the US.  Any overt showing of overt financial excess is smacked down (or hidden).  I think that's why Mr. Obama had hot dogs and hamburgers for the Fourth, or something.  Whenever it was, it was a smart move.  



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 09, 2010, 08:54:45 pm
http://www.gettyimages.fr/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&assetType=image&family=Editorial&p=prince+charles#


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Earth Angel on December 09, 2010, 08:58:56 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/09/world/main7134510.shtml

see photo..

"only a minority turned violent" ...

All it takes is a few loose cannons. The Daily Mail has a picture of someone spray painting "make the rich pay" and I consider that only a prelude to the anger & resentment that could be unleashed! These are tough times for many people and I think it's unconsciencable that the royals would even consider such a large & expensive event when their people are struggling so much. The royals are not down to earth or ordinary by any means, no matter how much they'd like to be. They act down to earth, but they most certainly do not live in a down to earth manner. That goes for Kate & Co. also! ...


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: benign on December 09, 2010, 09:00:49 pm
its good that PC and DoC are okey....hope next year wont be so bad once the cuts in social programs starts...

Richard Palmer of DE tweets:
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Aides say Charles and Camilla were attacked in Regent Street en route to the London Palladium. They are at the Palladium now, unhurt.
about 1 hour ago via txt


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 09, 2010, 09:04:57 pm
I'll post some of the US slant as soon as I finish reading them all.  The fuse has been ignited, tho, and just as predicted, the sleeping giant (media) are all about Royal Welfare.  And thumbs way down on royal weddings at such a time, etc., and some whisperings of Kate-*despise* (from those I know).  She's kind of the poster girl for greed and carelessness, completely self-absorbed.  And so on.  A fair amount of criticism that the royal family should at least have said something by now regarding this issue even though they, politically, have nothing to do with it.  That their role is to be an arbiter of reason and solid stoicism.


I dunno.  I think that ship has sailed for what seems to be a youthful republic beginning to realize their own power.



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 09, 2010, 09:37:45 pm
Well, the immediate reactions on the TV news is far too inflammatory to share on this group, which seems to be heavily and justifiably monitored.  Besides, you all know how to read things and judge them accordingly, world-wide.  I trust CNN, Fox, and the NYT to be able to handle themselves against any backlash.  Lots of anger out there, tho.  That's too bad.

But, a wake up call isn't always a bad thing.  Very sorry to hear that people who hurt in this incident. 


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 09, 2010, 10:24:24 pm
I think that the porblem is that the fees are beyond the reach and the politicians are now again breaking every single promise that they made ot get elected. I think that IF the riots escalate as they likely will do, it's best that the anger be directed as far away from the monarchy and toward the politicians. It's the politicians who are at fault for this, not the RF.

As for the wedding and the royals being out of touch, I think it's been getting worse since the royals aren't seen to be doing the bare stinking minimum. Party party party is their basic itinerary.

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That their role is to be an arbiter of reason and solid stoicism.

When WWII broek out, HM didn't hide in the Palaces and deny what was going on. She went out and met survivors and the injured and went to London every day risking death through the Blitz. She and King George were out there, meeting hte people and HM made speeches over the radio and was a mechanic.

Stoicism isn't sitting back and getting blasted. It's about getting out there and being strong during a crisis for the sake of others. The RF should be out there, burning the pavement trying to get jobs and get thigns going.

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I think that ship has sailed for what seems to be a youthful republic beginning to realize their own power.

I think the wedding will set that ship sailing.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Chloe on December 09, 2010, 11:11:21 pm
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some whisperings of Kate-*despise* (from those I know)
Even if I’ve grasped what you meant within the whole context of your reply - "from those I know" ; " thumbs way down on royal weddings at such a time" etc. - don’t make the mistake usually done by some with the terms you use... that mistake explains the lack of "a fair amount of criticism" being heard.

You only recognise & name a feeling (love, joy,sadeness etc.) that you’ve got inside you.  If you do not have a certain feeling inside you, you wouldn’t be able to recognise it.

This term "*despise*" (as well as "jealous") was used by K.’s fan(atic)s.  Their actions on the (whole) web just show it.  The funny thing I’ve noticed is that it was never the ones liking/loving Chelsy (for instance) to describe them in return.  The same goes for Charles.  It was physicians, architects, politicians, environmentalists, journalists, Diana supporters or whoever... or whoever who "have it against him".  Never the contrary.  As far as I remember, it weren’t Chelsy fans who posted private fb pictures of her or of Kate... but some Kate fans (including one supposedly in "law").  LOL

The awkward and "weirdest" thing was when you stand by different positions/values from the ones spearhead by some public figures, some transformed it as being "*despise*".  You see you can be against Bush or Obama as long as arguments are based on their actions - not because one is "black" and the other one "white".  They both belong to the same race and specie in taxonomy : Homo Sapiens sapiens.  If you had studied sciences (anthropology & genetic of populations), you will known that we all come from Africa.

By "muting" if not censoring opinions based on facts here and there, some just suppressed that "fair criticism".  It ends with a fake appreciation (or depreciation) of the UK royal family members who only believe and trust into their "good" press reported....... i.e.  they were very, very, very far with the reality of the people they are supposed to serve.  The BRF was somehow into a virtual world (beiliving into its own complaisant press & fans) if not galaxy.

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A fair amount of criticism that the royal family should at least have said something by now regarding this issue even though they, politically, have nothing to do with it.
The Independent or the Guardian both have written analytical criticism articles.  But hey, they are "leftists" and "republicans?  Who do care about it among royal fan(atic)s & complaisant UK newspapers/tabs ⁈?
Thus no need to read carefully wh they write about & the comments.   On the Guardian, there is a live blog (being referred here into one of the most prominent newspaper today...)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/blog/2010/dec/08/student-protests-live-coverage

Furthermore, British royals keep on going as if their public appearances  or whatsoever saying that the RF help the economy⁇ LMAO or that Charles helped "millions" of people in the UK (RFLMAO) ⁈?
Give me a break, they are launching a 20m£ wedding with a lazy gold digger nobody female (who has lived off her parents&co... now is expecting to live off taxpayers!) at the expenses of real middle class poor taxpayers who cannot even afford to pay for feeding their own children?

For instance, the 8th event of Charles & BW, I thought that it was the joke of the year (after the announcement of the engagagement of BW&Babykins aka WK) , they came, got pictured... and thanks to their "grateful" presence (for very, very, very few hours) they raised billions.

 :wopedo: Yeah, right!  They must be so wonderful. That was my reaction.  

I am asking this question again:
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They could find 20m£ to finance that but not students fees or people who lost their job&home and can’t even afford to feed their own children?  
To be honest, I do think that people who will answer "yes" to that question are are living into an other g.a.l.a.x.y ; they do not know nothing about Economy (nada!) or History ; are delusional!


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: serene grace on December 09, 2010, 11:28:27 pm
As for the wedding and the royals being out of touch, I think it's been getting worse since the royals aren't seen to be doing the bare stinking minimum. Party party party is their basic itinerary.

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That their role is to be an arbiter of reason and solid stoicism.

When WWII broek out, HM didn't hide in the Palaces and deny what was going on. She went out and met survivors and the injured and went to London every day risking death through the Blitz. She and King George were out there, meeting hte people and HM made speeches over the radio and was a mechanic.

Stoicism isn't sitting back and getting blasted. It's about getting out there and being strong during a crisis for the sake of others. The RF should be out there, burning the pavement trying to get jobs and get thigns going.

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I think that ship has sailed for what seems to be a youthful republic beginning to realize their own power.

I think the wedding will set that ship sailing.

It may only get worse in the coming months.  How uncomfortable will it be for people without jobs in England or money for school, to sit watching golden and glass carriages rolling down the street with diamonds dripping on some who have never worked,  only to be rewarded with titles and Palaces.



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: berlin on December 09, 2010, 11:31:12 pm
Lol, Camilla didn't open her legs for this!


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: YooperModerator on December 09, 2010, 11:36:34 pm
@ Chloe
I agree with you on the first part, *despise* and love are to strong terms to use for ppl you never personally met before.
I prefer the terms: like, respect, critical and common sence over love and *despise*... 8) because at the end of the day we're a bunch of ppl sitting behind a computer and you can't change things unless you get out and take action whether it's pro or contra remains in the middle but as long as we sit here talking about it, it wont change.
We're like those two old guy's in the Muppetshow who always throw funny/sarcastic comments around, they are a necessary part of the act but they're not on stage!
To be honest, a message of concern over the vandalism caused by some of these protesters would be an acceptable reaction for the RF on these things, but otherwise they shouldn't get dragged in by commenting on this and other political stuff  bignono


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: berlin on December 09, 2010, 11:50:10 pm
You can see the attack here, but it's pretty blurry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11954333


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 12:33:50 am
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It may only get worse in the coming months. How uncomfortable will it be for people without jobs in England or money for school, to sit watching golden and glass carriages rolling down the street with diamonds dripping on some who have never worked,  only to be rewarded with titles and Palaces.


After January, the entire economy will blow up or implode, with even the seasonal jobs completely destroyed. So by April, spring will be here and unless a holy miracle happens, almost no one will have a home, income, or job. Meanwhile, Kate and CO. will be waving while expecting good cheer, but won't get it. Out of all of it, people by then will know exactly what Kate is about and there won't be a lick of goodwill and likely a high risk of rioting and overt acts of hostility. At some point, the press will turn on her too; the press follows the tone of hte public towards a public figure so I don't think that the press will defend her either.

I just cannot believe that William hasn't been paying attention to these things. I personally hope that courtiers resign rather than try to do anything to keep the monarchy going because after Charles, the whole thing will likely collapse.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kezza on December 10, 2010, 12:45:17 am
Wowzers.  :eyes:


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Lieblich on December 10, 2010, 12:53:18 am
I'm quite surprised by how fast things are imploding.  I'm also quite surprised how fast my support for the monarchy is faltering.  It's a day for surprises, it seems.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on December 10, 2010, 02:07:54 am
They abuse of people too much. Life is very difficult and England is no economic paradise. When I walked by Picadilly City a police - I repeat, a police officer - has warned me to be careful with the bag, after I went with a friend to buy a sandwich and he told me to be careful with my wallet, not in Brazil I have to be so careful so incredible it may seem. A girl who came with me on the plane a few years he studied in London says she was tired of counting how many times she had her purse stolen, she lived here in Brazil in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais and had never been robbed. Not to be a boring text, in short, they abuse a lot. They are organizing a large wedding in an abbey with an expensive dress designed by a great stylist and a great reception and forget it if I remember last year a girl committed suicide in London because she could not find a job, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267953/Job-seeker-Vicky-Harrison-commits-suicide-rejected-200-jobs.html. How do you explain in a globalized world where all people are having immense difficulties to survive you need to lift millions in taxes to keep the luxuries of a family that did something great for ages before you were born. Many people since the dawn of man did something great, they become a known and others not, but nothing that requires the sacrifice of a whole society to carry the luxuries of this family in the back, when most people can barely carry their own demands and realize their own dreams, like buying a new car, make a big trip with the family, these people do not get it, but they pays to this family. The monarchy needs a charismatic person like Diana immediately, people need to feel cared for and protected, not exploited and enslaved. I believed it would happen to overthrow the institution, but only after the death of the Queen. With the preparation of this grand marriage, I believe this step will not stand too long before starting to crumble. It is only the first pub with expensive drinks taxes paid by the people and short clothes, the matter worse. People are paying big weddings, travel, jewelry, expensive drinks, employees in designer clothes, luxury cars, bodyguards for a family and etc, and these same people - or at least of them - can never have and enjoy what they pay for that this family enjoy. It's complicated ...


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 02:55:02 am
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Why don't the millions spent on Wills and Kate's wedding instead be used so that students can go to college? It is the students who are really the future of Great Britain.

Succinct and to the point. It's only a matter of time until Kate refuses to work, pleads exhaustion, and then riots start heading to the Palace gates.

I am disgusted at the attack on Charles though, frankly Charles has been trying to do his best to help youths like these find hope, then this is how they're repaid. One thing I do know, is that I'm glad the RF is going off of the Civil List, so that way no one can complain that the RF is mooching off of the taxpayers. That accusation will only be justifiably pointed at government bureaucrats.

Does no one think to give these students the addresses of the government officials.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 03:05:58 am
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Judging by this 'Prince William's Royal Wedding' could prove a trifle testy.
- Carl Barron

Aye, and there's a prize example of an utterly wasted & futile university degree attainment, frankly a flagrant insult to those genuinely serious and respectful about their own student grievences.
- Hotspur, Switzerland, 9/12/2010 17:04

Sorry for hte double post, I just HAD to post this.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Earth Angel on December 10, 2010, 03:18:00 am
^^^^  This is probably only just the beginning of the animosity that will be shown, due to Kate's perceived lack of work ethic and the fact her degree was not put to good use. There's a bigger picture that William and Kate are seemingly failing to see. They have lived cushy lives far removed from the destitute & squalor that many are now facing. For some, an affordable education is their only hope at a better life. For others the education is necessary to attain equanimity in the event of life adversity, such as economic crisis. These young minds need to practice the rigorous discipline a university degree necessarily instills, so as to succeed in life. The rise in tuition could prove to keep some people from becoming productive members of society. ...

  :idea:   Perhaps the William and Harry Foundation can start offering scholarships for disadvantaged youth experiencing economic hardships, so that they may get a useful education?! ...


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: royal_watcher05 on December 10, 2010, 03:22:06 am
Wow. I am so happy they werent hurt. It is a scary time for everyone. Its though to take loans, go to school on the promise for something better and now there are no jobs.  :nervous:
I think that anger is clearly spilling out and something needs to be done and having a big huge wedding isnt going to help anyone.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 03:28:38 am
I think, if only for the sake of safety, the wedding should be postponed indefinately and then William shipped to base and Kate ordered to move into the Palaces to begin training. I'm glad C&C weren't hurt, but a royal wedding at this point is a bad, BAD idea.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: benign on December 10, 2010, 03:31:04 am
someone is in a deep trouble. i dont understand why PC wasnt inform beforehand that they were driving straight through a mob scene...


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 03:39:00 am
This is horrific and I'm more than sure that someone will get carpeted over this.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: royal_watcher05 on December 10, 2010, 03:41:25 am
Oh I know. Whoever planned that car trip , well i feel sorry for them. Though isnt thier job to know this?
 OT ( feel free to edit/delete/move) Anyway, I think a small wedding is fine, but in this economy royals need to be seen as productive and hardworking. Its a double edge sword for william with military duties, but this anger is going to be directed as someone and it might be the royals if they arent seen as pulling thier share.  


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 03:48:18 am
Go to the Kate nad Wlliam wedding Section and I started a topic with just that question on there.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Earth Angel on December 10, 2010, 03:51:51 am
Yeah, this isn't good at all. If I understand correctly, the protests spilled over into areas where it wasn't expected. I agree that there was most definitely a lapse in judgment about the route to drive, but I also think that no one expected the protests to turn into a riot! They should have seen it coming though, it's just common sense to anticipate an unruly protest!


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: benign on December 10, 2010, 04:00:28 am
Richard Palmer tweets:
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Witnesses said the royal Rolls Royce Phantom VI got separated from police cars flanking them in the middle of the riot.
about 7 hours ago via txt
Witnesses said the royal Rolls Royce Phantom VI got separated from police cars flanking them in the middle of the riot.
about 7 hours ago via txt
Police face serious questions over why couple were driven into a riot area. Former senior officer predicts heads will roll.
about 6 hours ago via web in reply to palaceprincess
 .Dramatic pictures show Charles and Camilla looking terrified as their car was attacked.
about 7 hours ago via txt
One witness told how the royal convoy drove straight towards thousands of protesters. "I thought it was mad at the time for them to do so."
about 6 hours ago via web .
Scotland Yard launching an internal inquiry into royal security breach. Home Sec: "The next steps are a matter for the Metropolitan Police."
about 6 hours ago via web .
Home Sec told BBC: "What we have seen in London today is a degree of violence on the streets that has nothing to do with peaceful protests."

- hope so....at least the RF cant blame the paps this time...


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: danifaul on December 10, 2010, 04:14:30 am
Wow. I am so happy they werent hurt. It is a scary time for everyone. Its though to take loans, go to school on the promise for something better and now there are no jobs.  :nervous:
I think that anger is clearly spilling out and something needs to be done and having a big huge wedding isnt going to help anyone.
me too
I agree  :flower:
'Government is about making unpopular choices.'...and Monarchy  :spy: too
//////
public deficit:     public debt:
Ireland: 32%     Ireland: 110%
Britain: 12%      Britain : 80%
Portugal: 8%     Portugal:80%
Spain: 7%         Spain:40%

is true?  :unsure:


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 06:59:23 am
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some whisperings of Kate-*despise* (from those I know)
Even if I’ve grasped what you meant within the whole context of your reply - "from those I know" ; " thumbs way down on royal weddings at such a time" etc. - don’t make the mistake usually done by some with the terms you use... that mistake explains the lack of "a fair amount of criticism" being heard.


You probably misinterpreted what I was saying, but that's ok.  It's an honest observation and I'm standing by it.  We don't mean Kate-*despise* literally.  It's a saying here, nothing more.  It wasn't meant to be taken so literally.  And, for the record, if I need to be scolded, my mother's always available.  Somebody else said it very wisely, that the people I know, work and live nearby all put working as our star power.  It's kind of common here.  Royalty is something we just don't fully understand (which is why I'm here and trying to get it) and when we see your students so passionately upset and feel the economic crunch, the natural instinct is to be angered and shout it out that a bloated (financially) wedding, if it is to be one, may be unwise, not very PC, as well as unsafe.  This is a royal forum, so it was an appropriate insight.

I would also like to add how truly sorry I am to hear about the police officers and anyone else who were hurt during this protest. 


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Chloe on December 10, 2010, 11:52:28 am
You misread my post and intention. I know that it wasn’t meant literally, hence my first sentence.

Besides, if someone wants to learn on a subject and comprehend it, then he would try to read, understand and view other povs than yours - in particularly if someone else takes his time to reply to you and point out some things........ instead of thinking that after a long day people have nothing else better to do or else.  ;)

@ Chloe
I agree with you on the first part, *despise* and love are to strong terms to use for ppl you never personally met before.
I prefer the terms: like, respect, critical and common sence over love and *despise*... 8) because at the end of the day we're a bunch of ppl sitting behind a computer and you can't change things unless you get out and take action whether it's pro or contra remains in the middle but as long as we sit here talking about it, it wont change.
We're like those two old guy's in the Muppetshow who always throw funny/sarcastic comments around, they are a necessary part of the act but they're not on stage!
:thumbsup: By the way what I said is from Gandhi and based upon Buddhism philosophy.......


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: MOSAIC on December 10, 2010, 01:38:58 pm

Typical David Cameron, typical politician.  He says the police were not to blame, the students were to blame.......
I would way the RPO were to blame for allowing the royal car to take that route.  That was their miscalculation, and more and more comment is beginning to say so.  The students were no where near the royal couple until their car was allowed to drive into the middle of what had become by then a very serious situation.
I agree with a group of students at a press conference who said the horses should be put back in their stables and the dogs left in their kennels.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 10, 2010, 01:41:21 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337351/Royal-car-attack-How-did-anarchists-close-Prince-Charles-Camilla.html


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on December 10, 2010, 02:03:20 pm
It has a perfect solution, selling Rolls-Royce and now you can pay for college for any student. Those students are fighting for a decent future. Those same students who protested the university paid more expensive than for PW and PW has not used the diploma. They just want the right to attend university and have a dignified existence, still has one pathetic comments from some **** that crucify the students for fighting for their rights. Folks, the newspapers are complaining that nobody buys magazine with KM on the cover, which should cost around five U.S. dollars, why people will spend money to travel to England to see the royal family, there are people saying that marriage is good because it will bring tourists full of U.S. dollars, dum, if anyone is interested in spending about five dollars in a magazine, they will be interested in leaving your country to see the royal family ..... Have to change this argument that the royal family attracts tourists and find another argument to justify the millions of pounds that they use from the State


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 10, 2010, 02:11:41 pm
more articles..

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3268159/Charles-Camillas-car-is-attacked-in-London-as-students-protest.html

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POLICE guarding Prince Charles and Camilla today faced criticism over how they allowed rioting anarchists to get so close to the Royal couple last night.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: karla64 on December 10, 2010, 02:21:52 pm
Royal attacks prompts big question on UK security

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101210/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_royal_security


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on December 10, 2010, 02:37:16 pm
This is also good. If students did not want to attack the royal car, they would not have attacked. They now blame the security. But I believe rather that the students wanted to attack the royal car. Regardless of where the car pass if one student knew of the presence of that car and wanted to attack this car, they would attack. These reports is to try to pass the following: students attacked the only royal car because security failed, they do not want that suggests that perhaps these students are beginning to demonstrate against the system, against the institution, understand.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Alexandrine on December 10, 2010, 03:13:42 pm
Good point Fernanda  :me2you:



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 03:18:45 pm
I'm not saying it was planned or right or anything along those lines, but it made for a prime opportunity to get more press about their turbulent cause, which I happen to think is just.  There is never any reason for violence, but some people are just pushed too far. 

I don't think the level of anger was pulsed well enough.   


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Alexandrine on December 10, 2010, 03:22:10 pm
I think that the security people should be fired. It's common sense that they should tried to avoid the students. Maybe they thought that they wouldn't attack the royals :dontknow:

I doubt that they would have attacked the queen but the rest of the BRF are open season.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 03:29:53 pm
You misread my post and intention. I know that it wasn’t meant literally, hence my first sentence.

Besides, if someone wants to learn on a subject and comprehend it, then he would try to read, understand and view other povs than yours - in particularly if someone else takes his time to reply to you and point out some things........ instead of thinking that after a long day people have nothing else better to do or else.  ;)

@ Chloe
I agree with you on the first part, *despise* and love are to strong terms to use for ppl you never personally met before.
I prefer the terms: like, respect, critical and common sence over love and *despise*... 8) because at the end of the day we're a bunch of ppl sitting behind a computer and you can't change things unless you get out and take action whether it's pro or contra remains in the middle but as long as we sit here talking about it, it wont change.
We're like those two old guy's in the Muppetshow who always throw funny/sarcastic comments around, they are a necessary part of the act but they're not on stage!
:thumbsup: By the way what I said is from Gandhi and based upon Buddhism philosophy.......

Allow me to apologize for whatever I have said or not done for which you disapprove.  But, I meant no harm and have and will continue to take yours and others points of view into consideration.  I think this was a huge misunderstanding.  And, :thankyou: in advance for understanding.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 03:35:38 pm
Go to the Kate nad Wlliam wedding Section and I started a topic with just that question on there.

Thanks, KF!  As usual, you are on the core problem.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 03:54:33 pm
It's a long read, but maybe worth your time.  Our CNN's take on this:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/12/10/foreman.london.riots/index.html?hpt=C1



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Mia on December 10, 2010, 06:15:03 pm
I'm glad that no one was hurt but BRF is totally asking for it! Despite HM efforts to cut expences, they keep living in glamorous lala land without thinking in the current economic crisis... The 2nd in line to the throne gets engaged with a supermassive waste of space that never done anything in life, and they are planning a lavish wedding that will cost millions... Dumbas***   :wellduh:


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 06:36:20 pm
The politicians are the ones asking for it, not the RF. The RF will be going off of the Civil List in 2012 and it's not the royals who are ignoring elected policy.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 10, 2010, 08:12:08 pm
The politicians are the ones asking for it, not the RF. The RF will be going off of the Civil List in 2012 and it's not the royals who are ignoring elected policy.

Absolutely true, but just to throw it out there, isn't it about perception?  A Rolls Royce in the face of a kid who's struggling just to keep ahead?  It's an image that can grab you and change things.  In the heat of the moment, the haves and have nots have nothing to do with politics.  As frightening as this sounds, this is the same sort of mentality that hit France in the 1780s.  I'm certainly not comparing the two fact to fact, but the reality is, in the end, it wasn't about what anyone was saying that made sense, it was about perception.

I don't think the perception of the monarchy is one of tightening belts and freedom of speech and all those tiresome details.  The younger generation doesn't have the same level of respect, perhaps, that comes from experience.  They're frightened for their future but thinking about NOW.  So, maybe it's best to tone down the splendor a tad.   


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 10, 2010, 08:16:37 pm
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As frightening as this sounds, this is the same sort of mentality that hit France in the 1780s.

Exactly. It'll only get worse as time goes by and I sincerely hope that someone smart in the Court figures out how to get the royals on a tight leash. Charles and Camilla and the Rolls-Royce in front of them, all that privilege is ebing flaunted and students are scared that they have no future. I don't think this is jsut about tuition, but things fianlly hitting a breaking point and going over. I'm more than sure that the politicians will be next once the RF is taken off of the Civil List; then the politicians will be the target and I sincerely hope that they are.



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Ceridwen on December 11, 2010, 10:44:41 am
As for the wedding and the royals being out of touch, I think it's been getting worse since the royals aren't seen to be doing the bare stinking minimum. Party party party is their basic itinerary.

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That their role is to be an arbiter of reason and solid stoicism.

When WWII broek out, HM didn't hide in the Palaces and deny what was going on. She went out and met survivors and the injured and went to London every day risking death through the Blitz. She and King George were out there, meeting hte people and HM made speeches over the radio and was a mechanic.

Stoicism isn't sitting back and getting blasted. It's about getting out there and being strong during a crisis for the sake of others. The RF should be out there, burning the pavement trying to get jobs and get thigns going.

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I think that ship has sailed for what seems to be a youthful republic beginning to realize their own power.

I think the wedding will set that ship sailing.

It may only get worse in the coming months.  How uncomfortable will it be for people without jobs in England or money for school, to sit watching golden and glass carriages rolling down the street with diamonds dripping on some who have never worked,  only to be rewarded with titles and Palaces.



Exactly.  The unemployed, the hungry, will be lining up down the street, watching Kate inside a glass carriage with a tiara on her head.  The very tiara that I personally think she doesn't deserve to have, only to be flaunted, oblivious to her surroundings.  This was not just about high tuition fees.  It's a cry for change.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: MOSAIC on December 11, 2010, 11:39:01 am

Ceridwen  :thumbsup:  Well said, and I believe a change there will be, sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 11, 2010, 06:05:15 pm
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Exactly.  The unemployed, the hungry, will be lining up down the street, watching Kate inside a glass carriage with a tiara on her head.  The very tiara that I personally think she doesn't deserve to have, only to be flaunted, oblivious to her surroundings.  This was not just about high tuition fees.  It's a cry for change.

Exactly. The unemployed, the hungry, will be lining up down the street, watching Kate inside a glass carriage with a tiara on her sFrench and Russian revolutions. If they've gone so far as to overtly attack a member of the RF, then I'm more than sure that Kate colud likely face an attempted assault. A lower scale will pizz Kate off since she wants the glory of a large wedding while a large wedding might end up triggering a violent reaction. Meanwhile, stupidly, a lower scale wedding might simply have the same effect, but no violent reaction.

But the resentment will still be there and like it or not, the RF is now officially in the firing line. If nothing happened at the wedding, then it's likely that the people catering might simmer in resentment was well. It trickles upward and in time, even staff that aren't the Courtiers might lash out. The probelm, yet another, of the RF is taht they are so addicted to the whole 'show must go on' mentality that it doesn't stop and think things through. HM migth encourage escape, but if things start falling to pieces, putting things on pause would be best.

This attack is quite possibly the first taht has happened. There was a fruitcake who shot at HM, but it wasn't as close up. I'm sure it's the COURTIERS who are telling HM what needs to be done, but she isn't listening. As the country disintegrates, the monarchy can delve in, get involved, set up some soret of support network and get their hands dirty and hunker odnw wiht the people, or they can rather ignore the issue and hope it goes away. And ti won't. HM needs to start throwing her weight around and get all the royals in line and start issuing orders, no matter how distateful.

I'm sure there are more attacks to come and the RF would be best advised to get together and brainstorm on how to deal with the issues that are coming thick and fast and then they need to LISTEN to the courtier's advice.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Ceridwen on December 11, 2010, 06:16:05 pm

Ceridwen  :thumbsup:  Well said, and I believe a change there will be, sooner rather than later.

 :thankyou: MOSAIC, much appreciated.  I think it's a shame that PW didn't follow protocol and went ahead with this engagement.  The very engagement that he didn't receive approval from his own family.  After all the Queen was told a mere 2 hours prior to him going on public.  PW will reap what he sow.  



But the resentment will still be there and like it or not, the RF is now officially in the firing line.
 

I think so too.  The resentment will be there no matter what because these people feel unjustly treated & their frustrations over their livelihood gone astray.  When one is hungry & unemployed, it's difficult to see the world as anything but ugly & unfair.  They see the royals as parasites who haven't done much in their lives, except getting what they want when they want.  Their choices (PH/PW) of brides leave a lot to be desired IMO.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 11, 2010, 06:37:38 pm
The one thing I do know is that HM and Philip can't protect them anymore. They've chosen to ignore the courtiers who work to help, 'go it alone,' and then make idiots of themselves because they aren't interested in boring stability, but are attracted to the lifestyle that will darg them into nothing but trouble. Charles is going to either start listening to security or they will end up getting attacked again and next time there migth be something worse poking through their window. During times like these, royals are no longer sacrosanct.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Chloe on December 12, 2010, 02:37:38 pm
Well said KF.

It has a perfect solution, selling Rolls-Royce and now you can pay for college for any student. Those students are fighting for a decent future. Those same students who protested the university paid more expensive than for PW and PW has not used the diploma. They just want the right to attend university and have a dignified existence, still has one pathetic comments from some **** that crucify the students for fighting for their rights. Folks, the newspapers are complaining that nobody buys magazine with KM on the cover, which should cost around five U.S. dollars, why people will spend money to travel to England to see the royal family, there are people saying that marriage is good because it will bring tourists full of U.S. dollars, dum, if anyone is interested in spending about five dollars in a magazine, they will be interested in leaving your country to see the royal family ..... Have to change this argument that the royal family attracts tourists and find another argument to justify the millions of pounds that they use from the State

:thumbsup:

Tabloids shed crocodile tears as royal car comes under attack
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/dec/10/tabloids-crocodile-tears-royal-car-attack
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The tabloids are quite happy to label those who attacked the Roller carrying Charles and Camilla as 'a snarling mob of student fees rioters' – it suits their agenda


Title: Charles takes no chances in his armour-plated Bentley
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 14, 2010, 05:33:21 pm
The bullet-proof Prince: After the Royal Variety Show debacle, Charles takes no chances in his armour-plated Bentley

The Prince of Wales seemed to be taking no chances today when he went out on his latest assignment... in a bullet-proof Bentley.

The Prince and the Duchess of Cornwall were visibly shaken when they were caught by a mob of protesters last Thursday in Regent Street on their way to the Royal Variety Performance at the London Palladium.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338569/Prince-Charles-takes-chances-armour-plated-bullet-proof-Bentley.html#ixzz186mpihmv



Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: W07 on December 15, 2010, 05:54:45 pm
Apparently a few heads rolled from the security team

http://twitter.com/Royalinsight


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 15, 2010, 06:58:14 pm
I'm sorry, but I don't find that an appropriate response, if true, from PC.  It was clear that the security team checked beforehand and the protest was completely unexpected.  This attack was unfortunate, but certainly unintentional from a security point of view. 

This loftiness is what turns some people in other parts of the world off.  If someone attacked the president's car, the people would be arrested and have representation, as is the law.  Period.  That's the Secret Service's JOB.  You wouldn't hear a peep out of any standing president other than, maybe, 'what an unfortunate incident.'


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2010, 07:10:43 pm
They should have stormed Parliament instead of the royals.

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Royal Household web team are scouring the internet to analyse the public mood and perception following the Royal engagement.

Idiots should have known the minute it was announced, there was more than enough of a reaction.

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Catherine Middleton is a regular visitor to Buckingham Palace, Royal Insight understand Miss Middleton has been received by the Queen...


In that respect, I suppose the wedding will go forward.


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Yooper on December 16, 2010, 07:49:34 pm
IF it's true that KM has visited the Queen and good grief, she should've by now, why no pics, articles, info, nada?


Title: Re: Breaking News: Protestors attack car containing Prince Charles
Post by: Kuei Fei on December 16, 2010, 08:13:45 pm
Just more lying likely. But unfortunately denials won't work now since idiot boy wonder announced his engagement.


Title: Police release Footage of attack on Prince Charles and Camila's motorcade
Post by: karla64 on January 04, 2011, 07:37:16 pm
see video..

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20027164-503543.html

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/851738-female-thug-suspect-wanted-as-new-cctv-footage-of-royal-attack-revealed


Title: Re: Police release Footage of attack on Prince Charles and Camila's motorcade
Post by: karla64 on January 04, 2011, 07:54:46 pm
MORE ARTICLE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344007/Tuition-fees-protest-CCTV-rioters-attacked-Prince-Charles-Camillas-limo.html


Title: Re: Police release Footage of attack on Prince Charles and Camila's motorcade
Post by: YooperModerator on January 04, 2011, 08:17:32 pm
Thanks for the video's karla  :thankyou:
 kisss


Title: Re: Police release Footage of attack on Prince Charles and Camila's motorcade
Post by: Grace and Diana Fan on January 04, 2011, 11:59:09 pm
I saw this all over the television...WOW!!! The look on Camilla's face was priceless.  :wopedo: