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Royal Families => Danish Royal Family => Topic started by: serene grace on October 21, 2011, 02:47:00 pm



Title: Countess Alexandra
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2011, 02:47:00 pm

I've heard or read various rumours for the Divorce but never truly understood where trouble suddenly arose in their marriage, since when they married, this was said to be a true love-match and they supposedly adored each other. I recall, the  Scandinavian press saying what a Fairytale this marriage was. I did not follow it closely at that point, but over the years, I heard various rumours or read them, towards the end of the marriage, that both Alexandra and Joachim on separate occasions were being seen out without each other.
Still I was surprised by the divorce, since this relationship started with such a Fairytale story behind it. I believed that these two were deeply in love, I could never quite get what REALLY happened to cause a divorce.  :dontknow: :o


A old article excerpts...

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February 8, 2007 - 9:29AM

Denmark's Hong Kong-born Princess Alexandra, who divorced Prince Joachim in April 2005, will marry her companion of two years Martin Joergensen on March 3, the royal palace has announced.
Joergensen, 27, who is 15 years' younger than the 42-year-old princess, is a photographer who has done several portraits of the Danish royal family. 

The wedding will be private and Alexandra will no longer be considered a member of the royal family after the marriage, a palace statement said.http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/denmarks-princess-alexandra-to-remarry/2007/02/08/1170524199516.html 

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On 3 October 2007 the Danish Royal Court announced that Prince Joachim had become engaged to Marie Cavallier, now Princess Marie of Denmark. The wedding took place on 24 May 2008 in Møgeltønder Church - in which the christening of Prince Felix had taken place - near Schackenborg Manor.[2] The wedding date marked the 73rd anniversary of the wedding of Joachim's grandparents, King Frederick IX and Ingrid of Sweden. Wikipedia


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 21, 2011, 03:53:02 pm
The thing is, that I have to wonder exactly what motivated Alexandra to marry Joachim. We know that Joachim was out in clubs, but Alexandra, to marry so soon and then someone who was connected with the Court, the photographer, I wonder where that came from. Joachim seems happy with Marie and glowing. At the wedding, the photos, Alexandra seemed almost inappropriately happy and inappropriately manic. Joachim was blamed for the divorce (as all born royals constantly are), but he is now married with a new child and supposedly very happy and faithful.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 21, 2011, 04:24:03 pm
KF there are rumours that Joachim was already with Marie before the divorce.

But I agree about Alexandra, imo she only married him because he was a prince. However, I still think he was the reason for the divorce, Alexandra got a lot of things from the DRF so that makes me think that she had leverage and used it.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2011, 06:57:38 pm
..but I found it odd that Alexandra suddenly was dating and marrying a photographer that had been at or around the Palace for Royal portraits. That was no coincidence that she ended up marrying this photographer, even if Joachim had been clubbing, it's still odd she married a court photographer.
It makes Alexandra who I have greatly respected during her marriage because of her education and business background almost seem like a "flake."

I heard Joachim had been clubbing and partying.
I don't know the details of how Marie and Joachim met, heard various things.



Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 21, 2011, 06:59:07 pm
I thought they met through common friends. what have you heard?


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on October 21, 2011, 07:01:31 pm
I had not heard much about how Joachim met Marie, at a party or something, but I get her meeting the Prince confused with Maxima's.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 21, 2011, 07:07:12 pm
Most of how the prince met future wife are kind of mysterious.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: beline on October 21, 2011, 07:09:20 pm
Prince Joachim first met Marie at a hunting trip in 2002. Alexandra first met Martin Jorgensen in 1999, and met again in 2003 while he was filming a documentary for her 40th birthday.

And about their divorce, I was surprised at well! Both had kept up the appearances very well during the festivities of Frederik and Mary's wedding in 2004. Then the separation was announced just months later.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 21, 2011, 08:09:43 pm
I think Marie is from an upper class background, since her family apparently has a palace/estate in France.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on October 22, 2011, 02:15:17 am
Yes she's upperclass. I think Marie has handled herself quite well(considering she came in as the second wife and Alexandra was so beloved by the Country.)
Marie is actually a wonderful choice for a Prince, she's bilingual, she's traveled, she's worked and lived in different Countries, so she's international. She has some things in common with Alexandra. I think Prince Joachim has wonderful taste, both wives(Alexandra and Marie)are lovely, educated ladies.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 22, 2011, 04:16:19 am
I think that helps a lot more and it helps that she is used to the lifestyle and comes from a sort of equal background. I used to think that all you had ot do was be a professional, but now I realize that it's a lifestyle that you have to learn to handle, mainly being more laid back and less tempermental.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: berlin on October 30, 2011, 12:03:46 am
I've always heard that Alex was extremely critical of Joachim and would put him down, even in front of friends.  Now I'm hearing she does the same thing to Martin! 


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 30, 2011, 02:28:56 am
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Marie has handled herself quite well(considering she came in as the second wife and Alexandra was so beloved by the Country.)

I think Alexandra has pretty much been forgotten and the country seems diffident about her. She's there, not unwelcome, but not really at all vitally wanted.


Title: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on November 23, 2011, 07:48:54 pm
Countess was unfairly accused of stealing an ashtray in 1995 in the magazine Euroman. It turns out it was a lie.

http://www.bt.dk/kendte/falsk-anklage-mod-grevinde-alexandra


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on November 24, 2011, 05:40:46 pm
I think Marie is from an upper class background, since her family apparently has a palace/estate in France.

Maries mother owns a hotel named chateu de la vernede.

http://www.chateaudelavernede-provence.com/UK/Welcome.htm


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on November 24, 2011, 06:00:22 pm
I had not heard much about how Joachim met Marie, at a party or something, but I get her meeting the Prince confused with Maxima's.

Marie and Joachim met at a hunting dinner - 2 months after the birth of Joachims second son Felix. One can only assume what happened.


Title: Countess Alexandra at high society birthday
Post by: HC on November 24, 2011, 06:06:20 pm
Countess Alexandra at high society jet set birthday. Christian Stadil owner of Hummel turns 40. Countess Alexandras husbond Martin Jørgensen is a very close friend to Stadil.

Among the guest Andrea Elisabeth Rudolph (is owner of the cosmetic brand Rudolph Care) and Pernille Aalund (CEO at Aller Press A/S) and Sarah Zobel (daughter of Zobel close friend to Princeconsort Henrik).

photo gallery, click at the photo and then photos moves.

http://www.billedbladet.dk/Kendte/Nyheder/2011/11/Se%20gaesterne%20Rigmanden%20blev%20fejret%20af%20jetsettet.aspx



Title: Countess Alexandra names Unicef city of the year
Post by: HC on November 26, 2011, 06:41:07 pm
Countess Alexandra names Randers as Unicef city of the year.

Video of children reading and Countess
Alexandra making af speech about the good cause.

http://www.tv2oj.dk/arkiv/2011/01/20?video_id=16711&autoplay=1


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on January 28, 2012, 03:55:52 pm
Found this

http://politiken.dk/indland/fakta_indland/ECE509130/marie-cavallier—danmarks-nye-prinsesse/

According to the newspaper "Politiken" Marie and Joachim met at a hunting in 2002. Then they "accidently" met abroad. And then Joachim contacted Marie after the divorce was officiel.

Really.
Off course they fell in love before the announcement of the separation in 2004 and divorce in 2005.
One does not have to be a math professor to figure out that Joachim and Marie fell in love already in 2002. At the time where Joachims second son Felix was born.

What a trashy thing to do - doing a married man with a newborn son.



Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: lothwen on January 28, 2012, 06:18:28 pm
^First of all-we don't know that they were "doing" each other before the divorice.  That is speculation. 

Second of all-if they were, it takes two to tango.  Joachim would have made the choice to cheat on his wife after the birth of his son. 

Is it possible that they fell in love before the divorce was final?  Yes it is.  But is it also possible that they didn't act on their feelings while Joachim was still married to Alexandra.  That's possibe too


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on January 28, 2012, 06:55:49 pm
Lothwen
My stand on this is: it is the husbond or wife who is cheating. Per definition the third part can off course not be cheating.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on January 28, 2012, 11:24:39 pm
but Alexandra married a Court photographer who was around the Royal Family, so who was cheating or thinking of leaving first is open to specualtion.

Marie actually doesn't strike me as the type who would give herself away so easily to someone unavailable. 


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: milagro on January 29, 2012, 07:01:49 am
HC, exactly  :thumbsup: I loathe the "blame the woman" attitude. It's the spouse's business to keep faithful, not someone else's.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: meememe on January 29, 2012, 08:27:43 am
I am sure I read something at the time about Alexandra cheating during the marriage as well as Joachim.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on January 29, 2012, 10:48:16 am
Yes, I heard the same.

But considering Alexandra I think the main fault was in Joachim as she wouldn't have lost her princess position over nothing.


Title: Countess Alexandra presents Unicef city of 2012
Post by: HC on February 12, 2012, 06:26:39 pm
Helsingør was friday officially declared UNICEF city by protektor Countess Alexandra

Picturegallery
http://helsingoer.lokalavisen.dk/flot-aabning-da-helsingoer-blev-unicef-by-2012-/20120120/artikler/120129894/2095

To be UNICEF City means that the businesses, schools, institutions initiates activities to a UNICEF´s project in the third world.

This year it is a school project in Zambia. A lot of schools drown in water.

UNICEF and local youngsters in Zambia has developed a concept "floating" schools.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on May 18, 2012, 02:58:08 pm
Another stupid remark from P Marie  :tehe: She think it was a sign that she met Joachim. I have to wonder what sign? Joachim was married and Alexandra had just given birth to their second son 2 months earlier.

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But this year it is actually 10 years ago, Marie and Joachim saw each other the first time.

Marie was single then. Joachim was married. She was at a watershed [danish expression about people in a period of reflection] in her life. He was also in a reflection period, if you can call a marriage that when it would later end in divorce. There was nothing between them to the hunting party than good chemistry.
But as Marie so beautifully told in the first major interview, the couple gave after the engagement:

– It was almost like a sign, or at least as a very strange coincidence that we should meet in that period. How should one think anything else?

http://translate.google.dk/translate?sl=da&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billedbladet.dk%2FKongelige%2FArticleFolder%2F2012%2F5%2FPrinsesse%2520Marie%2520En%2520moden%2520prinsesse.aspx&act=url


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: pechoolo11 on May 18, 2012, 09:02:28 pm


I know the story goes that Marie was invited to the hunting party at Caroline Fleming's family estate because they were such good friends, but I've always been suspicious of this story. Did Caroline and Marie really know each other before Marie and Joachim became involved? Did Marie attend Caroline's wedding to Rory Fleming? Caroline is a celebrity and has been much photographed by the tabloids, but are there any pictures of Caroline with Marie taken before 2005, when Marie and Joachim were first photographed together?



Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on May 18, 2012, 09:17:43 pm
pechoolo11

I would like to know too  :hi:
I don't recall any tabloids mentioning her in connection to Caroline Fleming before this hunting party.
That would be really great if any of our fellow posters know who participated in Caroline and Rorys wedding  :cookie:

As I recall there was an article about P Marie, where Marie told that she wanted to go to this hunting party because she had heard there would be princes present, and that would be exciting. In the context I recall getting the impression that she didn't really know anyone and was sort of asked to the party by a friend that had some connection. And they sort of went as two girlfriends going on an adventure. But it is a long time ago I read this article.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: pechoolo11 on May 18, 2012, 09:29:37 pm


I remember Marie said that she was invited to the hunting party, so was she invited by the host or was she actually the guest of an invited guest?

I'm sure Nikolai and Felix will be glad to know that their stepmom thinks it was a sign that she met their father when they were so young.




Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 19, 2012, 06:33:56 am
Yes, I heard the same.

But considering Alexandra I think the main fault was in Joachim as she wouldn't have lost her princess position over nothing.

She was the first to remarry though and she acted abnormally enthusiastic about it, almost beyond exuberant, which was in my view a little tasteless. I don't think that women should be blamed first, but men are so frequently blamed and automatically assumed ot be cheating all the time (especially royal men) and the thing that unnerves me is that she wanted to keep her title and standing as princess even after the divorce; and got to.

I know the story goes that Marie was invited to the hunting party at Caroline Fleming's family estate because they were such good friends, but I've always been suspicious of this story. Did Caroline and Marie really know each other before Marie and Joachim became involved?  Caroline is a celebrity and has been much photographed by the tabloids, but are there any pictures of Caroline with Marie taken before 2005, when Marie and Joachim were first photographed together?

If Marie was part of that set initially, I think (am more than sure really) that they might have known each other from before some time ago, but never did anything and never really hooked up until well after the divorce. That does happen; sometimes high school sweethearts bkrea up, move on, and then meet later in life and it ends up being time for them to get married and so they do. It doesn't mean they cheated, just that when they met it was the best time to meet and marry.



Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on May 19, 2012, 01:06:45 pm
Most of the stories I heard said Alexandra had fallen in love with some court photographer or artist, because Joachim had started clubbing and partying on a regular basis.

I swear I never heard about Marie with Joachim until after the divorce.

As far as Marie knowing people in certain circles, there is a good chance she did. She went to a fancy Swiss boarding school, Many from certain circles establish friendships or connections to one another.
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Collège Alpin International Beau Soleil is a private international school founded in 1910 and located in Villars-sur-Ollon, Switzerland. Beau Soleil is the most expensive school in the world. It is also one of the oldest and most renowned boarding schools in Switzerland


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 19, 2012, 02:09:14 pm
Alexandra married the photographer, his family was also kind of close to the DRF doing docs about them.

I've always thought that Alexandra must have had a very strong case when they divorced because she got lots of things, ok she was the mother of princes but she didn't need to have a title for example.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on May 19, 2012, 02:25:01 pm
 Everyone said she was loved by her inlaws. They probably hated losing her as a daughter inlaw.
I would love to know what really happened with these two that brought on the divorce.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on May 19, 2012, 02:48:15 pm
Serene Grace

That is my guess too, that Marie got friends at boarding school that might have been connected to Caroline Fleming. So I don't think she actually knew Carline Fleming herself.

Alexandrine
That is true. Alexandras new husbond was part of the jetset in Denmark, and his family firm is still connected to the royal house. Resently in connection with QMII jubilee, where his father did the jubilee interview.

I also agree Alexandra had a strong case at the divorce. Unexpectedly the government gave her an apanage due to the divorce. So I think Alexandra could have kept a princess title if she wanted to.

At the same time as the divorce the scandal about Joachim hit the frontpages. Joachim had on a regular basis been clubbing when he trained his racing car skills. For at least one or two years he had been kissing and arranged meetings with different girls at the age of 16-17.

Kuei Fei
Marie has at one point said that they met in 2004. Later on they both told they met in 2002. So I don't think there is an old friendship that was restored in 2002.

And I can't understand why Marie think it as a sign that they met in 2002. Unless they actually did have an affair at the hunting party. Then Marie probably think their affair was a sign. Marie really is a stupid woman saying stupid things.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on May 19, 2012, 04:31:32 pm
Wasn't Alexandra's husband the Royal Family's photographer? How do we know that an affair had not started between them?


On the day of the wedding, several papers made it appear as if Alexandra left Joachim to marry this new husband. That is how it appears in a few of the society magazines I have with her second wedding in them. They say Alexandra left Joachim for love, they say she fell in love with this photographer or artist.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on May 19, 2012, 04:46:51 pm
Serene Grace

I agree. We don't know who cheated first. And at Joachims second wedding the tabloids mentioned Alexandras husbond Martin Jørgensen without mentioning Joachims clubbing nor any specualtion about Joachim and Maries first meeting in 2002. 

But as Alexandra got such good terms at the divorce and an apange untop, my guess is that Alexandra had a strong case.

(There was not only the clubbing or the meeting with Marie that he actually ended up marrying. There has also been rumours about a male livrist (a royal servant). The rumours never hit the tabloids, but they appeared in connection with a lawsuit against the livrist about his alleged stealing. As the lawsuit was dropped the rumours began cirkulating, that the livrist perhaps threatened to expose his affair with Joachim).


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: pechoolo11 on May 19, 2012, 06:14:12 pm

Alexandra got a very nice house and she still has the Alexandrine tiara. The Queen doesn't seem to hold a grudge against Martin as his father was the one who took the recent official pictures of the Queen and Prince Henrik. She was also allowed to continue to be the patron for Unicef Denmark.


Kuei Fei
Marie has at one point said that they met in 2004. Later on they both told they met in 2002. So I don't think there is an old friendship that was restored in 2002.

And I can't understand why Marie think it as a sign that they met in 2002. Unless they actually did have an affair at the hunting party. Then Marie probably think their affair was a sign. Marie really is a stupid woman saying stupid things.

Yes, when Marie did her first interview, which was with Anna Johannesen from Billed Bladet, I believe she did say that she met Joachim in 2004. Then in the engagement press conference, Joachim and Marie said that they met at a hunting party in 2002.

The Billed Bladet interview took place in March 2006, more than a year before the engagement. She also told Anna Johannesen that she loved Joachim, but she hadn't told him yet. Yup, she sure says a lot of stupid things. I can't understand why the Danish media never confronted Joachim about Marie's incredibly indiscreet and stupid behavior before the engagement.



Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: serene grace on May 19, 2012, 06:30:39 pm
I think a lot of people simply thought that he would never marry Marie C. They probably figured she'd get no further than girlfriend.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: Alexandrine on May 19, 2012, 06:40:38 pm
That's the thing, if Alexandra was the guilty party she shouldn't have got all the privileges: title, her own appanage, house... I'm not saying that she didn't cheat while married simply that she seems to have been buttered up by the DRF.

She wasn't going to be the king's mother and after the marriage of Frederik, Joachim's family has a very low role in everything.


Title: Re: Pr. Joachim and Alexandra's divorce?
Post by: HC on May 19, 2012, 06:53:38 pm
As I recall there was headlines such as "too stupid to be royal". And not only the tabloids but also royal experts and ordinary reporters stated Marie was not suitable due to her stupid remarks.

Immediately the couple broke up. Who ended the relationship I'm not sure. But after tablods writing that Joachim had an affair with a girl at the age of 20, the couple reunited. And Marie apparently learned the lesson and tried to restrain herself. But she said something about her being herself .....Her stupid self  :tehe:


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on January 11, 2015, 03:58:03 pm
Qm was the one who asked for money to Alexandra the day before the separation.

http://m.bt.dk/?redirect=www.bt.dk/royale/dokument-afsloerer-margrethes-hemmelighed-bad-om-millioner-til-alexandra&


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on January 11, 2015, 09:46:05 pm
is this relevant? Who else could have asked for the money?


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on January 12, 2015, 05:52:40 pm
At the time a politician Pia christmas møller, demanded an apanage to Alexandra. And most politicians agreed. And the population as well.

But now it seems the queen asked for the appanage- and the day before the public knew anything about the separation.

To me it indicates that there is a royal wish to shut alexandra up.

The critic in the news is about the queen demanding or asking for an appanage. It seems not dignified to ask someone else to pay an alimoney.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 12, 2015, 06:10:56 pm
I really do think Alexandra never should have retained her princess title, tiara, ribbon, orders, etc. after the divorce. As for a courtesy title of Countess, all wrong. Either you're in or you're out and she has no business living off of the Danish taxpayer via an apenage. Let her walk, let her talk, get her off of the Danish taxpayer hands.

I think a lot of people simply thought that he would never marry Marie C. They probably figured she'd get no further than girlfriend.

These reigning dynasties are just too stupid and blind for words.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on January 12, 2015, 08:49:34 pm
LOL the tiara and everything else was a present. More fool was the queen that thought that there would be no divorces. Don't see why she should have given it back at all.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on January 12, 2015, 09:22:03 pm
I agree gifts should not be returned.

And if Alexandra got a good prenup then the queen should just fulfill the obligation in the contract.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on January 12, 2015, 09:31:23 pm
yeah! they would take a tiara from my cold hands it had been present. Plus is something that her children can inherit and even cash it if they need it. Considering how good Joachim seems to be with money better have it.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on January 12, 2015, 09:34:17 pm
Haha exactly  :hi:


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on September 08, 2015, 06:19:47 pm
Countess Alexandra getting a divorce
http://www.seoghoer.dk/nyheder/derfor-skal-vi-skilles

It is a difficult dicision, she says


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on September 08, 2015, 06:27:52 pm
 :- :- :o


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on October 13, 2015, 08:25:26 pm
He seemed to be having an affair...


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Countess of Holland on October 13, 2015, 08:49:40 pm
I really do think Alexandra never should have retained her princess title, tiara, ribbon, orders, etc. after the divorce. As for a courtesy title of Countess, all wrong. Either you're in or you're out and she has no business living off of the Danish taxpayer via an apenage. Let her walk, let her talk, get her off of the Danish taxpayer hands.

I think a lot of people simply thought that he would never marry Marie C. They probably figured she'd get no further than girlfriend.

These reigning dynasties are just too stupid and blind for words.

Some things could not be revoked; presents being one of them. And that is not just among royals. All over the world people divorce and I doubt people return gifts to their in-laws.
As for the orders, the giving of orders and the whole management is well-described and that includes when an order is revoked. And normally this is one in case of treason and although the Queen was probably hurt, as a mother, a divorce doesn't qualify as treason.
So revoking the Elephant was a no-no.

As for the title and the money, I think the Danish royals wanted to avoid a British situation and of course there was the problem that Joachim wasn't able to give his soon-to-be-wife a lump-sum like Charles did with Diana. So instead an apanage was arranged. As to why the Danish government was asked to pay for it..I don't know. As Alexandra has continued to represent Denmark and Danish organisations for many years after her marriage, it was somewhat warranted.

It is my personal opinion that the Danish royals handled the divorce very well. No interviews, no mud-slinging and do damage to the Crown.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 13, 2015, 09:04:49 pm
Alexandra's exhusbond out on the town with his new girlfriend eva harlou. She has just divorced a musician. She is an architect and a TV host. They met up with count wedell.

http://herognu.dk/kongelige/martin-og-eva-harlou-kyssede-hele-natten/


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on October 13, 2015, 09:07:45 pm
^someone with knowledge of danish law should know more but the money given to her for the kids and her should have depended on the money he had a the moment? The apanage given to her by the state seems very bad taste to me. Probably the reasoning was that her kids were princes of Denmark and so they deserved the money.

@HC he's such a mess. I knew it wouldn't end well when it was known he had a kid but didn't treat her well but he was going for the good stepfather with her kids.  :wopedo:


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 13, 2015, 09:21:25 pm
The apanage was given to Alexandra due to the divorce.
The royal family don't have any money to speak of. Not like the sweedish or the English or the Spanish.

Only Joachim has money after he sold shackenborg. And he won't pay unless he is forced.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on October 13, 2015, 09:24:46 pm
I doubt that they are the oldest monarchy of Europe but don't have any money.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 13, 2015, 09:41:25 pm
The family was not able to go to Russia when Dagmar got married because they were ashamed of their lack of means.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on October 13, 2015, 10:00:58 pm
Maybe at that moment but they've been around 150 years.

(BTW Dagmar must have been shocked with the Russian court? Sad how her life ended up being).


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 13, 2015, 10:08:19 pm
Yes Dagmar must have been quit shocked.

And when she returned to Denmark as an older woman her brother the king harassed her for the electric bill.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Alexandrine on October 13, 2015, 10:16:33 pm
 :o :o Poor woman


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 13, 2015, 10:35:48 pm
Well when the whole Russian people is not at your service anymore you have to remember to switch out the light leaving a room.... :tehe:


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: Rosella on October 13, 2015, 11:06:14 pm
^^ I agree that Joachim and Alexandra's divorce was handled discreetly and well. The divorce was just before Frederik's wedding, by my memory. Until Fred and Mary produced an heir Joachim and his two sons were heirs to the throne, so that was an extra reason why the boys' mother was to be looked after, though I think Alex lost her HRH and just became her Highness and was given the new Countess title. She continued with Royal duties for the Crown for quite a while and was popular in Denmark at the time. Joachim had no money so the Queen negotiated an apanage.


Title: Re: Countess Alexandra
Post by: HC on October 19, 2015, 07:24:56 pm
Owner of Hummel has lend a big expensive apartment to Martin Jørgensen.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/dkkendte/hummel-millionaer-redder-husvild-martin/5784419