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Royal Families => Spanish Royal Family => Topic started by: memyselfandroyals on August 29, 2011, 11:45:35 pm



Title: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: memyselfandroyals on August 29, 2011, 11:45:35 pm
A portuguese magazine has published this article, but that photo is old i believe:
 

Letizia, cheated in the Greek islands

 In a trip deprived before leaving with the family to Majorca, Philip had a secret meeting with his ex-girlfriend Eve Sannum. The spanish high company  does not speak about another thing.


News say Felipe has met his ex-fiancee in  Greece again. What do you think? i don't buy it. Not from Felipe, He seems so faithful and devoted to his family and wife...


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 30, 2011, 03:45:07 am
I would be horrified if such a thing was true; quite frankly, I would be disgusted since Felipe is a husband and father and Eva is an EX! I have no idea on how on earth Eva could do this to herself, turn herself into a mistress while Felipe turns himself into an adulturer.


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: rogue on August 30, 2011, 02:54:22 pm
I always was under the impression that the Spanish press just doesn't like Letizia and i would asume that if it was a well known fact amongst the Spanish elite , that the Spanish papers would be reporting it first rather than the portugese. I'm saying Bullshit!!


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on August 30, 2011, 04:46:43 pm
^^ Not really, although some press criticise Letizia, in this case it's all about Felipe and he is the heir so this info will never be published in Spain.

Do you have the link to the article, memyselfandroyals?


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: memyselfandroyals on August 30, 2011, 07:27:18 pm
when this came out, i assumed i could found it on internet, but i was wrong. Not a smart move, i know, but if i find in a bar or something i will read very carefully all article and post here  :thumbsup:
According Splash, it was a spanish socialite who knows a lot about the royal family who wrote a text telling this ... i do not know, i think Felipe loves her too much, but in the end of the day he is still a man. It seems that it all happaned in a private trip before going on vacations with his family to Mallorca this Summer...

This link was all i found and it's in spanish:

http://www.cotilleando.com/f6/revista-portuguesa-flahs-felipe-encontro-com-eva-este-vera-o-56873/index2.html

And here's the first page of the newspaper:

http://samuel-cantigueiro.blogspot.com/2011/08/comunicacao-social-de-esgoto.html



Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Dahlia on August 30, 2011, 07:31:47 pm
cotilleandos hobby is to diss Letizia  :TCP:


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on August 30, 2011, 07:46:20 pm
^^ And ours is to criticise Kate? Is what they do so different from us?

They've got a photo in the cover but Eva looks younger  :dontknow:

Edit: I've read the thread and it is an old photo, but a spanish journalist said that they had a meeting recently. A poster also said that Eva & Felipe were seen in an airport together when he was married.

Thanks M  kisss


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: memyselfandroyals on September 04, 2011, 07:26:54 pm
you're welcome Alexandrine


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 05, 2011, 06:29:07 pm
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^^ And ours is to criticise Kate? Is what they do so different from us?


Uh, Kate deserves it! :P


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on September 07, 2011, 08:46:33 pm
^^ You know what I meant  8)

I watched a gossip programme today (it's in a local tv station and kind of alternative) and they talked about this, the journalist who told the story is not famous for being against Letizia or anything like that, she said that Felipe met Eva in Norway but they didn't know if Letizia knew about it or not.

She and the rest joked about going into prison for telling this story in tv.  :KEZZA:


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: memyselfandroyals on September 07, 2011, 10:17:19 pm
She and the rest joked about going into prison for telling this story in tv.

Well, maybe they are trying to hide this information from the public oppinion... After all, Felipe is the golden prince  :shy:


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on October 24, 2011, 03:06:49 pm
Rumours of a possible crisis between them http://www.vanitatis.com/casas-reales/2011/10/19/rumores-de-crisis-en-el-matrimonio-de-los-principes-de-asturias-16208/

Felipe going alone to a wedding and the party afterwards (a street was closed because of his dinner party!!!!) http://www.vanitatis.com/casas-reales/2011/10/24/cortan-una-calle-para-una-cena-del-principe-sin-letizia-16258/


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Kuei Fei on October 26, 2011, 07:04:20 pm
What is UP with these women that they are so unwilling to let go? Why don't they just let these princes move on in their lives like everyone else?


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on November 01, 2011, 10:04:48 pm
I forgot to tell the last developments.

Peñafiel is saying that Felipe made a trip with Eva to Finlandia.

Another journalist said that there had been rumours of a crisis between the journos.  :dontknow:


Title: Re: Felipe reunited with Eva?!
Post by: Alexandrine on January 10, 2012, 04:56:17 pm
http://www.extraconfidencial.com/articulos.asp?idarticulo=8650

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En este caso, no había que salir de Europa. Al parecer, y existen fotos que han sido confiscadas, nuestro príncipe realizó un viaje relámpago a un país centroeuropeo –fuera de la agenda oficial-, para visitar a una “vieja amiga”. Y le pillaron y le fotografiaron.  Las “fuentes” son españolas/es de a píe que, supuestamente, no muestran ningún interés. Más bien entusiasmo por haber coincido con su alteza real que, para sorpresa de muchos, no mostró ni el más mínimo entusiasmo por coincidir con compatriotas fuera de nuestras fronteras.

This article says that Felipe met with an old "gf" (it doesn't have to be Eva) and someone did photos but were confiscated.

In a related topic Letizia went this new years to Morocco with her mother but no kids or Felipe.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on January 19, 2012, 07:54:50 pm
this marriage may has met better days!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: HC on January 19, 2012, 08:35:04 pm
I'm very surprised to read this.

I really hope Letizia will go for a divorce if this is indeed true that Felipe has been unfaithfull.

I once read that a psychic thought that Letizia was a bad choice as there would be a divorce in her life. But when she was told that Letizia had been married before, the psychic had no worries.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 19, 2012, 10:15:01 pm
Oh dear. I hope he's not cheating, that would be disasterous.  :o

He and Eva had their time it didn't work out, he married another,She also has a husband-fiancee and child in Norway,  I hope the cheating reports are NOT true.

Also hasn't Eva had a child and married or become engaged someone else? I thought I read something in a Norwegian paper.


(that said.....I always thought the Felipe's relationship with Letizia was a rebound for him NOT being allowed to marry Eva, so he then tried to rub his parents nose in it and demand to marry a divorcee Letizia....I get the feeling that Felipe has always had a bit of a destructive streak!)

 :cookie:  Did he ever get over Eva........really or was it forced apart because the Spanish press, public and Royal Family found her unsuitable?

Maybe the two just said a friendly "Hello" to each other and nothing else.  :mousiekins:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Mada on January 20, 2012, 01:38:52 pm
Letizia looks like an unsatisfied woman emotionally. I saw pictures of them both where you could feel something was broken, so i won't be surprised if ever Felipe cheated on her.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 20, 2012, 10:13:02 pm
Letizia looks like an unsatisfied woman emotionally. I saw pictures of them both where you could feel something was broken, so i won't be surprised if ever Felipe cheated on her.


I agree that she is unsatisfied! Because I believe she wants to do more and she can't, and they blame her for everything! About the relation  with Felipe, well all mariages have good times and bad times! I don't know if he did or not! (But if he did the victim is letizia!) I believe that he don't, and they way that things in royal families goes, anyone can be so happy! Even the Queen Sofia is so sad!

About a divorce HC, I don't believe that Letizia will! She will lost her girls, thats she really loves! I don't think that she wants that!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Mada on January 20, 2012, 10:23:25 pm
Byechoc, it will be nice if you tell more about Letizia. I don't have a real understanding of her situation. I got the impression that she was a bit restricted in her ability to exercise royal duties on her own. It seems like they want her to follow the model of Queen Sophia who looks to me like a dutiful queen but a bit too much submissive to the authority of her husband IMHO


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 20, 2012, 10:27:19 pm
In Spain they want that! But Letizia do some work alone.. she visited Germany a few years ago alone...

But if she wanted to do other things? I believe that she loved... But they don't let her, and I believe that she sick of press of saying always bad about her! If she did something worng they critics, But she did allright, they problem is her closes! and so on...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 20, 2012, 10:31:57 pm
If Felipe is cheating, I truly feel sorry for her, because Letizia seems to be a hardworker and someone who has the strength to be a strong Consort.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 20, 2012, 10:37:54 pm
You are right Serene Grace! Kate will never do what Letizia do.. always commited to her job! I can say that I can not see anyother princess do what she do (Mette or Mary)! Off course that victoria do it...

I believe that she will be a great Queen! I put my head on it!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Mada on January 20, 2012, 10:48:45 pm
She has always given me the impression she was a free spirit and hoped her new status will give her opportunity to do much more good and serve her country. I also think she married because she loved the man she married with so if he betrayed her trust I will feel very sorry for her and for felipe because I also believe she will make a great queen consort.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 20, 2012, 10:58:22 pm
Yes I agree with you Mada...

But I think that Felipe loves her... I just hope this crises at SRF gets over soon!!!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: HC on January 20, 2012, 11:32:00 pm
Byechoc
I really don't think Letizia would lose her children at a divorce.

About CrownPrincess Mary - she is the workhorse in the danish royal family. I can mention par example that she has spread out a system to avoid bullying amongst children. And this system is being used in an increasing number of schools in Denmark. Then there is her work with women in violent marriages, her visit to Horn of Africa.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 20, 2012, 11:58:00 pm
I don't think they'll divorce either.

But I do think Felipe still had strong feelings for Eva when they split. I think he loves Letizia but married her on the rebound somewhat. If he could have married Eva without so much opposition, I truly believe he would have.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on January 21, 2012, 08:14:33 pm
if one day there will be one proof of Felipe being unfaithfull, i'll lose all respect for him. I always admired him for being the real charming prince  :sigh:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 21, 2012, 11:06:49 pm
I don't think they'll divorce either.

But I do think Felipe still had strong feelings for Eva when they split. I think he loves Letizia but married her on the rebound somewhat. If he could have married Eva without so much opposition, I truly believe he would have.

He probably foughtfor Letizia because his parents kept rejecting one woman after another and he lost patience. I can't say that I blame him and the way people went on about this one blue dress seh wore, one would have thought she had worn something unforgivable.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: rogue on January 21, 2012, 11:26:30 pm
I never understood why the SRF won't allow such a smart woman to be more out there.It seems so backwards.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 21, 2012, 11:49:41 pm
Byechoc
I really don't think Letizia would lose her children at a divorce.

About CrownPrincess Mary - she is the workhorse in the danish royal family. I can mention par example that she has spread out a system to avoid bullying amongst children. And this system is being used in an increasing number of schools in Denmark. Then there is her work with women in violent marriages, her visit to Horn of Africa.
Letizia had pre-wedding contrat that say that she will lose all kids that she might have!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 22, 2012, 06:13:38 am
I don't think they'll divorce either.

But I do think Felipe still had strong feelings for Eva when they split. I think he loves Letizia but married her on the rebound somewhat. If he could have married Eva without so much opposition, I truly believe he would have.

He probably foughtfor Letizia because his parents kept rejecting one woman after another and he lost patience. I can't say that I blame him and the way people went on about this one blue dress seh wore, one would have thought she had worn something unforgivable.

I think so too, he got tired and put his foot down finally. I never understood the total outrage over the blue dress....yes it was loud , but it wasn't a sheer lace,see through dress, showing panties, it was a gown.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 22, 2012, 11:59:30 am

But it show her boobs a lot... And she was out because she did a work modelling with lingerie... About that she was completely out!

The king will never allow such thing! Even on Spain people didn't like that! At that time, on Mette-Marit wedding I was on hollidays at Spain! I was at Sanxenxo at that time, King Juan Carlos was there too... And people saw on Tv that, and many coments were: Is this what he wants to be our Queen? someone that dresses like that!

You can see that SPF, people never show too much! If Kate wanted Felipe, with that photo at uni, she was out!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: HC on January 22, 2012, 03:10:34 pm
Byechoc
But even though the prenup says that Felipe will get the children I'm sure Letizia will live with her shildren and Felipe can see them in weekends. If she would never be allowed to see her children then Felipe will stand out as a monster.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 22, 2012, 07:38:25 pm
But she agreed with that... That girls are always Crown's propety! She will lose her two children...

I know that's bad, but Ok I believe that Felipe will let the girls go with her mother, but always when the King allowed that!

But I believe that Letizia will not leave the girls!  bignono She loves them... I know that people says that she to hard at their education, but it's not bad! Today people think that being generous and kind and give everything says that they are the best... but it's not like that...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 23, 2012, 06:31:05 am
Byechoc
I really don't think Letizia would lose her children at a divorce.

About CrownPrincess Mary - she is the workhorse in the danish royal family. I can mention par example that she has spread out a system to avoid bullying amongst children. And this system is being used in an increasing number of schools in Denmark. Then there is her work with women in violent marriages, her visit to Horn of Africa.
Letizia had pre-wedding contrat that say that she will lose all kids that she might have!

Why on earht would these women agree to such a horrible thing? Why agree to sign away the rights to their children, their flesh and blood and run the risk of never at all seeing them, or only seeing them on visits? It's a horrible thing and I am disgusted by it. I mean, signing away their CHILDREN like it's nothing and it's not as if this is a simple thing. I am so surprised that a title and tiara mean so much that they would run the risk of losing their BABIES!! I would slap my fiance for suggesting such a thing and walk.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: YooperModerator on January 23, 2012, 10:22:49 pm
I think it just means that in case of divorce custody goes to to royal not the in-law.
I don't think it would have mattered if that was a male of female in law.
I think if roles were the other way around (leti spanish princess, felipe commoner) she would have gotten the kids!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 23, 2012, 10:36:33 pm

But it show her boobs a lot... And she was out because she did a work modelling with lingerie... About that she was completely out!

The king will never allow such thing! Even on Spain people didn't like that! At that time, on Mette-Marit wedding I was on hollidays at Spain! I was at Sanxenxo at that time, King Juan Carlos was there too... And people saw on Tv that, and many coments were: Is this what he wants to be our Queen? someone that dresses like that!

You can see that SPF, people never show too much! If Kate wanted Felipe, with that photo at uni, she was out!

Good to see the Spanish have more decency and more standards. It's a pity the supposedly notoriously prudish and dignified BRF has basically set the stage for Sofia instead of a better standard and expectation.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on January 23, 2012, 10:40:08 pm
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Why on earht would these women agree to such a horrible thing?

When you get married, you believe it's 4 ever


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2012, 01:57:58 am
Good point, but it's still a slap in the face.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 24, 2012, 04:26:01 pm
It's just a way to make someone think very well if they want a divorce! And a way that make it don't happen! And make the monarchy survive without scandals!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 24, 2012, 06:53:27 pm
Well, now the monarchies are being torn apart by scandals and problems. Half the new Consorts are practically anorexic and look miserable while the husbands look more burdened than supported.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on January 25, 2012, 09:04:52 pm
being princesse seems a course :(


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 26, 2012, 01:56:25 am
Well, now the monarchies are being torn apart by scandals and problems. Half the new Consorts are practically anorexic and look miserable while the husbands look more burdened than supported.

Ha, that sounds about right, except for a very few.  :tehe:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 26, 2012, 09:04:13 am
being princesse seems a course :(

I don't think it is. It depends on how the holder of the title makes it work. I mean, the protocol that surrounds them is designed to protect them, as well as enscone them in a bubble of deference and frankly a lot of it is no different than that of a politician's wife or a CEO. Felipe should not cheat, wrong either wya, but I have to wonder if whether or not he is sick of Letizia and her never ending round of problems. Letizia doesn't seem to be making a constructive adjustment to her marriage, which has been going on for some time now and if you can forgive me, Felipe might just be sick of her depression and anorexia and perpetual angst that he is porking another woman just for the sake of venting his frustration. For the sake of the kids, I hope he is faithful though.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: HC on January 26, 2012, 05:41:59 pm
Has Letizia any problems such as depression. I haven't heard.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on January 26, 2012, 10:22:12 pm
I believe she has, but she works very hard. I like her  ;)


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on January 27, 2012, 02:49:43 am
I like her too... she is a hard worker... Always do something for her country and many times, like in previous days, she does not have the respect that she should have (like those acidents with diplomats of Iran and Congo!) She always do it right, just smile and say: Ok then!

The only thing that scares me is that she looks so thin... She looked like me a few years ago! But now she scares me! I saw a photo of her and she looked better in 2010 than she looks at 2012!  :spy:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on January 28, 2012, 07:48:18 pm
Her thinness and usually bad face is what makes me thing that everything is not allright, in fact that everything is going badly with her.

It's usually said that her thinness is genetic, but pre-2004 she didn't look emaciated and her mother is not obese but not so thin either. Other times it is said that her photos are retouched or is a bad angle, but that can happen once but so many times?  :sly:



Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on January 28, 2012, 09:59:43 pm
I hated when he chose her, a divorcee, who married her University professor, after years of the Spanish press telling the world "their Prince" had to choose an Aristocrat, a Princess, someone from Royal lines, no past. I thought she was a smack in the face on paper to his parents for what a Future King of a Catholic Country should choose for a wife.

 I found her positively awful, she was living, sleeping with another news guy supposedly when she met Pr. Felipe, she was previously married, she was Common, she came from a TV background(even though a journalist, she was on tv, not something a respectable Catholic Monarchy would look for in a bride.) Awful, awful,awful,awful choice.....then the nude, topless album cover appeared of her, after the wedding. Supposedly done by a artist while Letizia was living in Mexico, the Royal Family had to quickly get their story out and the artist in-line and also Letizia's various papers about her past locked away or not entirely made  clear.

She was an awful, awful, AWFUL choice on paper....just awful...at first, imo.

Now I am actually growing to like Letizia, I see her as very-strong, she is a hardworker, she always was a hardworker, she was always a go-getter and she has a lot of strength that I think will carry her well in being Queen. I think Letizia may be mentally stronger than Pr.Felipe in many ways and she will be someone he can lean on when he has doubts or weakens emotionally. I see a bit of Eva Peron in her, she will rise to the occasion if the people need her to carry Felipe's load.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 30, 2012, 05:48:47 am
I hope to heavens she is getting help. There is no way that she is going to make it if she keeps up this self destructiveness.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 12, 2012, 04:41:39 pm
The SRF is very disfunctional, the queen and king have been separated since the 70's more or less, and the queen has even gone twice with the children to India  leaving the king. But being queen and having money was important so no divorce after all.

That means that the queen has educated the children herself but treating the infantas harshly and the prince was spoiled by her.

When the king tries to change the prince it was very late....

He has always done what he wanted except when he wanted to marry Eva. I see Leti as vengeance towards the king and the country.

He is not prepared to reing anywhere and I think that he doesn't even want to. As they say he is more similar to the greek side and everyone knows what happened to his uncle...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 14, 2012, 10:18:37 pm
What a mess the royal families are these days.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Nymph on February 17, 2012, 01:11:43 pm
Yes they are a mess, I don't know what to think anymore.  Just when you think there might be something nice or upstanding about them, some new information comes to light and shatters that belief. 


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 17, 2012, 04:22:01 pm
Look for my new thread about the King and Sophie  :tehe:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 24, 2012, 09:07:43 pm
Wow, those comments are harsh. I thought Felipe and Letizia were the most hard working CP couple in Europe, still think they are and they are taking their role the most seriously. If Felipe had wanted to take revenge on his father and Spain, after a foreign underwear model, he could have brought home a porn actress like C-P of Sweden, not a well educated career woman like Letizia. Even the former President of the Cortes, Peces-Barba, said that Felipe had shown some common sense by marrying Letizia.
Eva gave an interview on El Mundo in Aug 2011, she had a 3-month old baby (2nd) with her living-in boyfriend. Don't think she was dating all over the world with a 9-month pregnant tummy or a new born baby. That's about the silliest and most boring rumor.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 09:25:44 pm
You know that Peces Barba is a joke nowadays in Spain even for monarchists no?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 09:56:51 pm
The SRF is very disfunctional, the queen and king have been separated since the 70's more or less,

the prince was spoiled by her.

When the king tries to change the prince it was very late....

He has always done what he wanted except when he wanted to marry Eva. I see Leti as vengeance towards the king and the country.

He is not prepared to reing anywhere and I think that he doesn't even want to. As they say he is more similar to the greek side and everyone knows what happened to his uncle...

I agree, there is NO WAY Letizia was viewed as a positive choice when he announced it. The first newspaper's were comparing her to Mrs Simpson the American Divorcee who married the British King. I don't see how people could think Letizia was a proper choice at all. The only thing that saved her was she was educated and not a model, I think the King wasn't sure what Felipe would bring home next to get back at them. There were reports that the King fought him about wanting to marry this divorced news woman, but Felipe threatened to walk away from the Throne, so the King backed down.

What is with some of these Crown Prince's who don't want the job or try to sabotage themselves?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 24, 2012, 10:11:43 pm
Divorced or not, Letizia has always been seen as a more positive wife for Felipe in Spain in general than a foreign underwear model. Time has changed, Charles is married to not only a divorcee, but also his own homewrecker, he is still the heir to the throne.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 10:14:34 pm
More than a foreign tacky model yes, moreover they didn't gave anyone enough time to analyse her before the engagement announcement.

Still only Sartorius has been considered as the ideal by everyone.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 24, 2012, 10:20:21 pm
Isabel was nice when she was dating Felipe, but she is a complete loser. She hasn't done anything, couldn't hold down a single job other than being an eternal girlfriend the last 20+ years. Everyone is criticizing Kate here, Isabel is no different or even worse than Kate since we don't know what Kate would do if she got dumped by William.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 10:22:41 pm
I think Isabel is different from Kate because she had a really bad life and no stability which has not helped her at all, yep I agree she is a loser but she still looked upon as the best possible queen from Felipe's gf.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 24, 2012, 10:36:06 pm
That's because she has always been 'playing' like a victim. Isabel had a good education (just like Kate), good connections, no excuse not to put it in good use.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 10:39:31 pm
Not really, people think of the time when she was a girlfriend not now, is more like in despite of her strange life after she....



Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 10:49:24 pm
Letizia was a gasp heard around the world, when Felipe sprung that announcement on people. He hid her for a reason, he knew the Spanish press would rip her to shreds as a divorcee, marrying the Crown Prince and future King.

Did the Queen not get along with Isabel?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 11:03:45 pm
Isabel now says that the king and queen were wonderful to her, but the comment has always been that the queen considered her not the best for her son and they didn't like that her parents were divorced. However, Isabel's mother also had problems with drugs and her father with alcohol; and one of her relatives was a republican politician.

Anyway she was not good enough.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 11:06:49 pm
wow Felipe sure can picke 'em!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 24, 2012, 11:15:56 pm
I heard it was Letizia who didn't want to be known as Felipe's girlfriend. She didn't want to be the 2nd coming of Isabel, an eternal girlfriend, in case the relation failed.
Felipe and Letizia had the support of the media groups before the engagement announcement, otherwise they wouldn't dare to announce it, for example media godfather Jesus Polanco, Luis Maria Anson and others all knew their relation before the engagement. I think after Eva, people were just glad that he was marrying a well educated Spanish woman instead of a foreign underwear model.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 11:23:01 pm
She also knew that she would be killed by the press after all she was a member; that time Felipe was not as silly as with Eva when he tried to sell her through Hello which didn't work.

The press always knows more about the royal family than they say because there has always been a autocensorship when talking about the SRF. The members of the RF are also friends with the press owners as you say. Moreover the king tried until the last minute to stop the marriage. My own theory is that the last war between the king and the prince was public and the king won as he didn't marry Eva, but a similar fight in public would have harmed the monarchy.

With Leti it was more ok she is not what everyone wanted but at least is spanish plus they tried to sell her as the best thing since slice bread, if the relationship had been public before the engagement it would have been more difficult for Felipe to marry her.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on February 24, 2012, 11:41:58 pm
 :thumbsup:  Exactly.



Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on February 24, 2012, 11:45:18 pm
I don't understand why people don't like her...

Because she does not have past? She was looking for a prince! She lived... She did more than many people that are princess at this moment did!
Maxima always had a good life, after all her father was very important at argentina! She didn't need to work hard!
Mary dispite all, always wanted a rich guy, remeber what she did to won Frederik...
Vitoria was a crown princess, works hard, but she was a life and a education for that... but look at her sister (dispite i like her...) she is living with the 2nd man in her life...
Kate... I need to say anything? mum and dad did all for her...

Well letizia worked hard to have a job, she pay all her bills... and she is bad? How many princess only dress closes from her country? Mary loves Prada, Maxima Gucci and all other... Mette Valentino... But letizia is always helping Spain in this...

She also knew that she would be killed by the press after all she was a member; that time Felipe was not as silly as with Eva when he tried to sell her through Hello which didn't work.

The press always knows more about the royal family than they say because there has always been a autocensorship when talking about the SRF. The members of the RF are also friends with the press owners as you say. Moreover the king tried until the last minute to stop the marriage. My own theory is that the last war between the king and the prince was public and the king won as he didn't marry Eva, but a similar fight in public would have harmed the monarchy.

With Leti it was more ok she is not what everyone wanted but at least is spanish plus they tried to sell her as the best thing since slice bread, if the relationship had been public before the engagement it would have been more difficult for Felipe to marry her.
I don't agree... I believe that are people that knew about it... people saw them... they knew it but they didn't told anything...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 24, 2012, 11:57:19 pm
I'm agreeing, the press knew and didn't say anything. Imo because they didn't think he would marry her, because neither the king or Felipe didn't want us to know.

Because the rest of the princesses are not appropiate choices doesn't mean Leti is better, all of them in different proportions have been a bad choice and I'm sure that we will see in the future the problems they will cause.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on February 25, 2012, 12:02:33 am
Look at Diana! she was a proper choice... but Diana was not the love of charles... maybe if he maried who he want, the BRF did not had so many scandals...

Dispite evrything, I think that they are all happy... You can see that Mette and HAkoon are very very happy and  still love each other and show it in public, like any other royal couple... (Ok william and kate  are not on this one...) if they are happy and have a happy family is what matter...
Because people can have a title, can have education, but live with someone that you don't like.. like many people do,, well this can take so much problems!!!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 25, 2012, 12:11:44 am
Being romantic in public doesn't mean anything, and if they don't like the limitations on who they can marry there is always the option to renounce.

I love that now royals have all the privileges but nearly no sacrifices.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 25, 2012, 12:28:41 am
The media bosses knew about their relation, they probably respected the opinions of Felipe and Letizia not to tell yet. The yellow press didn't know (they belong to the lowest level), I remember Jaime Penafiel said a day before the announcement on TV the new girlfriend of the Prince was a 26-year-old journalist, obviously he didn't know who she was.
Byechoc, agree that I never understand why some liked a spoiled and lazy royal girl like Madde more than a hard working woman like Letizia. Letizia was divorced, not looking good on paper, but she didn't have any kid from her previous marriage, thus no real burden. The other CPsses also had lived with their previous boyfriends, no virgins either.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on February 25, 2012, 12:59:00 am
I'm agreeing, the press knew and didn't say anything. Imo because they didn't think he would marry her, because neither the king or Felipe didn't want us to know.

Because the rest of the princesses are not appropiate choices doesn't mean Leti is better, all of them in different proportions have been a bad choice and I'm sure that we will see in the future the problems they will cause.

I agree too.
If some are saying now that the Country and world press were not shocked by his choice of Letizia the divorced news reader that's just rewriting history. Letizia was not seen as a positive choice at the time, the doyenes at some point refused to meet her, then I think showed up.
And her engagment interview , introduction did not go over well the press hated her, when she cut the Prince off or seemed to, the public was not rejoicing about Letizia. She was seen as harsh, common and people were saying he hid her because he knew the tabloid press would rip her to shreds. I think they thought he would not marry this divorced woman and YES it was a big deal at the time.
If Isabel's parents being divorce was a big deal, then Felipe marrying a divorcee was a huge deal.
It's not about liking her or disliking her, but she was not viewed as a great choice at the time, but I have to admit now she has proven herself and been a hardworking Princess. Much kudos to her.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on February 25, 2012, 01:08:20 am
'Let me finish' was exaggerated by certain yellow press journalists, especially the ones who disliked her, for example Jaime Penafiel, I doubt the public cared that much.  I didn't even notice that much when i watched the press conference live. Later I watched the video again after the comments from the heart programs, still didn't find it a big deal. She said it in a playful tone, Felipe was laughing like a teenager. Maxima called Willem-Alexander dumb (he is dumb) in the engagement press conference, nobody in Netherland cared.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on February 25, 2012, 03:42:43 am
Being romantic in public doesn't mean anything, and if they don't like the limitations on who they can marry there is always the option to renounce.

I love that now royals have all the privileges but nearly no sacrifices.

You know, the limitations are there to protect the princes from making stupid choices and the point of a consort is to enable the rest of 'good society' to show deference required without creating resentment on the part of the women and men who will be required to bow the neck/bend the knee. When you think about it, I wonder if the doyenes would have objected if Letizia had been from among their class or a foreign princess. I think the idiot princes should renounce their places if a princess or aristocrat isn't good enough for them. Courtiers put up wiht enough from the royals they serve to not really end up scraping and bowing before women who they themselves owuld never marry.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on February 25, 2012, 12:06:18 pm
Peñafiel has never been yellow press, he has been the editor of Hello and been friends with the jet set forever, even best friend with a Rato, and I'm sure all journalists knew but didn't say anything. After all was a Terelu Campos who said that Leti was the girlfriend and more trashy than her is difficult to find.

I perfectly remember Peñafiel saying that he didn't say anything about Leti because he couldn't believe that the king would accept such a marriage.

Maxima may have said whatever she wanted in her interview but no one can deny that people in Spain cared and it was a huge issue at that moment.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on March 07, 2012, 03:57:35 pm
I love Letizia  :snowman:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: spanishlover on March 07, 2012, 09:23:46 pm
so is he cheating on her....in pictures he seems really enamored with her and vice versa!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 08, 2012, 09:06:20 am
Quote
in pictures he seems really enamored with her and vice versa!

So do most politicians, right before the public finds out about their mistresses; the same with Charles and Diana, right before Andrew Morton.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on March 08, 2012, 10:50:35 am
Peñafiel has never been yellow press, he has been the editor of Hello and been friends with the jet set forever, even best friend with a Rato, and I'm sure all journalists knew but didn't say anything. After all was a Terelu Campos who said that Leti was the girlfriend and more trashy than her is difficult to find.

I perfectly remember Peñafiel saying that he didn't say anything about Leti because he couldn't believe that the king would accept such a marriage.

Maxima may have said whatever she wanted in her interview but no one can deny that people in Spain cared and it was a huge issue at that moment.

I remember Penefiel he was hard to contain. Did Letizia send a few words to him via people she knew in the press at one point? I remember many people agreed with his writings about her and someone trying to quiet him down.
Whatever happened to Penefiel.......maybe he could go to UK and report on the young royals, it would be interesting to hear what he thinks.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 08, 2012, 12:36:40 pm
Letizia told him in a public event that he shouldn't write about her at all and not in the terms he had done previously.

According to him the dispute started when he wrote about Victoria Eugenia's sad life with Alfonso XIII and how she cried alone... but Leti didn't like it and told him so.

If you can read his articles in spanish you can see that he sucks up to nearly everybody that he criticises her in public is big for him. He had a row with the Queen but even then he always says how perfect she is and all that.

He is still writing for a big newspaper in spain and he also appears in a trashy tv programme which is very famous. (I prefer to read his articles than to watch him, he doesn't speak well in public, he is too slow).


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on March 08, 2012, 01:54:05 pm
what is the program called? :)


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 08, 2012, 01:58:13 pm
Sálvame.

http://www.telecinco.es/salvame/


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on March 08, 2012, 05:41:14 pm
Thank u.  :thumbsup: ;)


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 09, 2012, 12:59:40 am
Peñafiel has never been yellow press, he has been the editor of Hello and been friends with the jet set forever, even best friend with a Rato, and I'm sure all journalists knew but didn't say anything. After all was a Terelu Campos who said that Leti was the girlfriend and more trashy than her is difficult to find.

I perfectly remember Peñafiel saying that he didn't say anything about Leti because he couldn't believe that the king would accept such a marriage.

Maxima may have said whatever she wanted in her interview but no one can deny that people in Spain cared and it was a huge issue at that moment.

Yellow press is a general term for tabloids, maybe pink press is more accurately, but pink press is also towards tabloids than serious press. Penafilel doesn't belong to the royal insiders anymore (as he used to when he was Hola's editor), but he always likes to show off his connections that he really doesn't have much these days. I perfectly remember he said a day or two before the engagement announcement the new girlfriend of the Prince was a 26-year-old journalist, he didn't now who she was at that time. Of course it's nothing new for this man to change his stories from time to time.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 09, 2012, 02:31:02 pm
I think at that time he didn't think that Leti would get the ring, well that the king would allow it.

But he is still important or at least the new pr head of the house thinks so because he tried to bring him to the "good" side again. Thank god he said no thank you!  lol


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on April 09, 2012, 02:39:38 pm
i still think letizia was a good choice  :sorry:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 09, 2012, 02:44:14 pm
oh don't say sorry!

everyone has a different opinion!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on April 09, 2012, 02:53:03 pm
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on April 09, 2012, 02:58:16 pm
i still think letizia was a good choice  :sorry:
you are not alone  :thumbsup: :click:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on April 09, 2012, 03:00:20 pm
Byechoc  :hug: :loveshower:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 10, 2012, 11:25:31 pm
I think at that time he didn't think that Leti would get the ring, well that the king would allow it.

But he is still important or at least the new pr head of the house thinks so because he tried to bring him to the "good" side again. Thank god he said no thank you!  lol

Talk is cheap after the fact. If Penafield had known whom Felipe had been dating, he would have broadcasted to the whole Spain, but he got it wrong before the engagement.
Now he has been blasting Cristina everywhere for getting favorable treatment, nothing original from Penafiel though since everyone in Spain sees it. I guess JC probably saw the pain and wanted him to shut up. More than 8 years, this man has been blasting/nagging about Leti, JC hasn't lifted a finger.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 12, 2012, 05:39:51 pm
I don't he would have and he didn't.

He was still in favour with the RF and he wouldn't have said anything that could have harmed them. I remember seeing the interview after the engagement and he was asked that question. And he said that he didn't expect an engagement.

They are trying to control the press as they have done since JC is king, sadly things will not work as they have had. Trying to make Peñafiel change sides is just  a reaction to the new reality they find themselves in. Before he was a solitary voice in a sea of sugary ones, but since Urdangarin's scandal there are many more who dare to criticise the RF in the press. They've changes their PR headstaff since the last one was a disaster but I don't think this one is better.



Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 12, 2012, 08:44:55 pm
Didn't Penafile say JC had wanted to stop the wedding, if he was so in favor of RF or JC, he would have announced the name of Felipe's girlfriend for sure. This man has been full of BS.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 12, 2012, 08:59:50 pm
Yeah to make another spectacle of the RF like in Eva's case? That's what they wanted to avoid.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 12, 2012, 09:09:26 pm
I doubt Penafiel cared that much, he hated the RF after Sofia didn't help his daughter. Anyway I don't think he has been an insider long before Letizia.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 12, 2012, 09:15:21 pm
Yep they had a little tiff about his daughter but he never talks badly about the Queen.

Let's agree to disagree. I think he still has friends in high places and has always been part of the insiders group.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 12, 2012, 10:21:08 pm
Yep, let's agree to disagree. I don't think he knows much, but has found every single chance to show off.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 03, 2012, 02:01:13 pm
Someone told my father that she knew someone that saw Felipe and Eva in a nordic country together, plus that one of Eva's kids is his.

I don't know if this has become an urban legend but I was surprise when he told me as this story is starting to be similar as when everyone rumoured that the king was cheating.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on June 03, 2012, 06:31:53 pm
I did a lot of snooping in Norway about Eva, from what I heard she's got her own life, she went back to school for something. Has a home,children a man of her own. But I did hear that she and the guy may have split, they weren't sure if she was still with him?...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: D.I.R. on June 04, 2012, 09:52:47 pm
Yeah I agree with Serene Grace.
But I love it when she comes to Spain (thats when she or her people call the paps & the media).
So it's to let Leti know she's there, which is funny  :cookie: to me anyways.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 04, 2012, 09:54:41 pm
but she hasn't come in years

@SG thanks for the scoop!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: D.I.R. on June 04, 2012, 10:02:52 pm
oh i know i just re read what i just wrote. I should of said when she came instead of when she comes. brain fart sorry.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on June 12, 2012, 01:04:45 am
The King and Letizia can't be compared, some have been spreading rumors and lies on Letizia or whatever related to her all these years without even blinking their eyes.
Eva hasn't been to Spain for years, at least not on the press. The last time she was a judge for a tacky swimsuit competition in Madrid before Felipe's engagement. I think that was her last attempt to have Felipe look at her again.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 12, 2012, 07:27:19 pm
c'mon there has been talk of the king much worse than Letizia's for years and years but there was no internet and it was more difficult to be in the know.

There are even anonymous books about his money business or his relationships... a couple of years ago saying that the king had strange business or had a gf could get you a lot of strange looks, now it's kind of normal. It could be exactly the same here. I doubt Felipe has been faithful to anyone and Letizia hasn't looked healthy or happy for a long time.   


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on June 13, 2012, 01:04:09 am
JC has been the King for 35 years, most gossips related to the King were about his business and mistresses, like the 1992 Swiss trip with his mistress and this time elephant hunt, he simply couldn't hide his mistresses.  But he had never been picked apart from head to toe like Letizia, with rumors or lies coming out of nowhere.
I saw Letizia was kind of depressed a couple of years after her sister's death. She looks pretty happy now, although sometimes she looks like she wants a bigger role.  I think in general she is  a serious person, probably doesn't feel the need to pose for cameras with a fake smile like some other royals, ex. her mother-in-law Sofia.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: HC on June 13, 2012, 05:26:36 pm
Is Queen Sofia posing for cameras?

I would imagine Sofia is just photographed a lot.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 13, 2012, 05:51:36 pm
JC's whole life had been picked apart since he was born.

The stories told about him are much more serious than anything told about Leti. From betraying the sha to making all the 23-F.

Sofia is old school, she will always keep appearances (though the difference between her and Silvia I cannot see). Also I prefer them to be fake than to show that they don't care for the event they are attending.

A couple of videos show that Leti still doesn't look happy, the last one from the football match, she looks like she is in other world.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on June 13, 2012, 07:49:58 pm
JC's life is complicated, Leti's is not, but people still tried to create rumors on her, that's the difference.

Sofia probably didn't pose as much as Mary who could spot a camera in a mile, but she did pose more than the rest of the family. JC usually looked grumpy because he didn't pose. Leti looked fine when interacting with people in general, she just needs to pose more in still pictures like her MIL with a fake smile if that's what others want.
I saw Leti at the football game, she looked very much into the game. When Felipe was interviewed, she was a bit distracted, there was lots of noise in the stadium, also she probably spot the people she knew in the media teams since she was laughing and waving, didn't look unhappy at all, probably too happy to be there.

http://i.imgur.com/xJQiW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hRW5m.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AGfoD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O2qQk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/i8kjC.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NfQSR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uaI7W.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PiS37.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NdDQm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bWGGI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dPKMG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LqFsr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MxUUf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/O2qQk.jpg

please only post the links to the photos - Alex


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 13, 2012, 08:40:49 pm
Considering that she was in front of the camera from a long time I thought she should know what looks right and what doesn't. Her behaviour in the video is atrocious, starting she takes something from her mouth! Sofia will be a fake but at least I cannot imagine her doing that. Most people in twitter also commented how uninterested she was in what her husband was saying, you may be very happy but she is an adult she should know how to control herself.



Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on June 14, 2012, 12:58:07 am
She might have a sore throat. I'd rather have her taken out of her candy instead of having the candy in her mouth in front of the cameras. Victoria of Sweden was seen eating candy at the Nobel prize before, iikely she had a throat problem, royals are human too, they could also feel uncomfortable, get sick.
Of course Leti could (or should to avoid criticism) fake her interest at what her husband said. I think there might be a camera facing Felipe directly when he was interviewed, so she might not know at the very beginning she was being filmed as well by other cameras, so she went to shake hands with someone, waving and laughing at either fans or media teams she knew.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on June 22, 2012, 04:53:13 pm
Is not about avoiding criticism is simply acting in a respectful way to her husband. If she prefers to be on other other side of the camera she chose the wrong option.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 01, 2012, 09:48:32 pm
Don't ask me why but now the spanish press is talking about Sannum (they say she is still with her husband)

http://www.vanitatis.com/noticias/2012/09/29/que-fue-de-eva-sannum-20707/

http://elpais.com/elpais/2012/10/01/gente/1349103172_106758.html with recent photo


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: YooperModerator on October 01, 2012, 09:55:20 pm
 ???
Who is she? :dontknow:
no habla espagnol my dear :tehe:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 01, 2012, 09:59:26 pm
If you use chrome when you link the new you get it translated  :dontknow: She's his ex girlfriend before Letizia, he wanted to marry her but apart of him no one liked her


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: YooperModerator on October 01, 2012, 10:05:17 pm
I'm a firefox user darling... :flirt:
Thanks for the explanation!

Google translate of the 2 links
http://translate.google.be/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vanitatis.com%2Fnoticias%2F2012%2F09%2F29%2Fque-fue-de-eva-sannum-20707%2F&act=url

http://translate.google.be/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Felpais.com%2Felpais%2F2012%2F10%2F01%2Fgente%2F1349103172_106758.html&act=url


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on October 01, 2012, 11:26:57 pm
If you use chrome when you link the new you get it translated  :dontknow: She's his ex girlfriend before Letizia, he wanted to marry her but apart of him no one liked her

Norway liked her.  :bored:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 02, 2012, 02:44:18 pm
 :tehe: But in that case Norway didn't count


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: serene grace on October 02, 2012, 02:53:40 pm
That's true. I'm just saying she was actually liked by some people, those who know her say she's a nice woman, but just wrong for a Consort choice.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on October 02, 2012, 02:59:06 pm
 :flower: Ok in my first post I meant Spain and didn't consider her home country.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on December 11, 2012, 02:39:16 pm
According to this http://www.vanitatis.com/casas-reales/2012/12/11/el-viaje-secreto-de-la-princesa-letizia-a-miami-21998/ She made a trip without her husband to Miami.

Nothing strange per se but she is travelling more alone than with her husband in the last two years.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on December 18, 2012, 11:28:57 pm
maybe they are with troubles in the relationship


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 05, 2013, 05:20:50 pm
According to our most famous papz there is crisis in the marriage, there are a lot of discussions both in public and private. 


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: memyselfandroyals on March 06, 2013, 12:02:17 am
in public? where?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: berlin on March 06, 2013, 01:06:02 am
I don't see Letizia giving up her position.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Spice on March 06, 2013, 01:21:50 am
If Felipe and Letizia's marriage is anything like Juan Carlos and Sofia's, and let's face it, we often follow in the footsteps of our  parents, no matter how hard we try not to, then I think they would stay together regardless of any infidelity on Felipe's part, which, realistically, would be a case of "like father, like son". 

I like Felipe, he seems like a decent bloke, but infidelity would not surprise me. 


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Snokitty on March 06, 2013, 01:48:41 am
http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/03/crown-prince-felipe-and-crown-princess.html

They sure don't look very happy.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Spice on March 06, 2013, 01:52:51 am
^Thanks for posting.  They remind me of the photos of Charles and Di in South Korea, Nov 1991 I think it was.  You could cut the air with a knife.

Felipe and Leti often look unhappy together though, but man these pics are worse than usual.  Clenched fists and everything.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 06, 2013, 04:42:08 am
According to our most famous papz there is crisis in the marriage, there are a lot of discussions both in public and private. 

Antonio Montero ? The sleeziest paparazzi. He said Leti's family talked about the crisis ? Her mom ? dad ? Telma ? grandparents ? Absolutely laughable.  if he wanted to lie, at least not lied so stupidly.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on March 06, 2013, 10:32:43 am
I don't see Letizia giving up her position.
Because she can lose her children!!!

But like every mariages, they have problems... it's impossible don't have them!!!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 06, 2013, 04:02:35 pm
^Thanks for posting.  They remind me of the photos of Charles and Di in South Korea, Nov 1991 I think it was.  You could cut the air with a knife.

Felipe and Leti often look unhappy together though, but man these pics are worse than usual.  Clenched fists and everything.

To be honest is normal that they have long faces, people working in that business were shouting outside against them and against the politicians. But since 2011 or around that time there was a change in their relationship in public, before they were more lovey dovey and then that stopped.



Antonio Montero ? The sleeziest paparazzi. He said Leti's family talked about the crisis ? Her mom ? dad ? Telma ? grandparents ? Absolutely laughable.  if he wanted to lie, at least not lied so stupidly.

Her family has talked since the first moment at least her paternal family not her maternal who except her mother they are a class act. Sad that not all of them are like that.

It wasn't even months that her aunt tried to sell the photos of her first wedding and not even her mother (Leti's grandmonther) denied it. If it wasn't true they could have sue T5 and they didn't. They also need cash especially her aunt who is out of business and in debt. Her new brother in law has also talked to the press and I don't mean those articles in El Mundo but to a journo who works in Vanity Fair.

Montero may be a bit sleazy but he is a very good papz who has followed the SRF for years and has been threatened due to his job. If he talked in Ana Rosa like that without being more careful IMO it means that he has very good sources and that someone wants the info out.

I don't see Letizia giving up her position.
Because she can lose her children!!!

But like every mariages, they have problems... it's impossible don't have them!!!

In a way I agree with you Byechoc. But there are also rumours that Leti also has affairs. At leas the press in a very subtle way is giving that impression. Maybe Felipe wants out and Leti cannot stop him? What then? Although I don't see them divorcing, Leti free would be worse than Diana and it would be difficult to explain the separation to the public. But I think the relationship is broken.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on March 06, 2013, 04:36:05 pm

^
Do these rumors give names of the men she's had affairs with? Are they in the RF circle or not?
Could on of the many reasons Príncipe Felipe is not happy be because of her extreme dieting and regular botox injections? Men do get tired of that type of behavior. It's not pleasant to have lunch/dinner with someone that is constantly counting how many calories one pea has. And as to the botox injections most men like natural women not plastic dolls.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 06, 2013, 04:43:30 pm
When I say subtle is very subtle. When they talked about the trip to Miami they mentioned she was with her bodyguards and another unknown man, of course he could be anyone but why mention him at all or his very blue eyes? It was totally unnecessary.

The plastic surgery which she denies and the possible anorexia troubles me. I don't feel Leti is ok mentally and I think she is not getting help. I'm sorry I can't help you there Mon Roi, it's a bit of the chicken and egg, what went first? Did she started because the marriage was difficult or the opposite?

In the Morton book someone who knew her as a teenager says she was always very careful with her diet.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 06, 2013, 05:19:30 pm

Her family has talked since the first moment at least her paternal family not her maternal who except her mother they are a class act. Sad that not all of them are like that.

It wasn't even months that her aunt tried to sell the photos of her first wedding and not even her mother (Leti's grandmonther) denied it. If it wasn't true they could have sue T5 and they didn't. They also need cash especially her aunt who is out of business and in debt. Her new brother in law has also talked to the press and I don't mean those articles in El Mundo but to a journo who works in Vanity Fair.

Montero may be a bit sleazy but he is a very good papz who has followed the SRF for years and has been threatened due to his job. If he talked in Ana Rosa like that without being more careful IMO it means that he has very good sources and that someone wants the info out.


The only person who has been talking to the press is her aunt Henar. Montero's info was from her aunt Henar, surely very reliable LOL. Her Henar's failing business almost costs grandma's her house, she was rumored to sell Leti's first wedding pictures, was not invited to Telma's wedding, gate crashing the PoA party without an invitation I doubt Henar knows much about Leti's private life now. Montero always complained that the security of the SRF threatened him, he had lots of hatre towards Felipe and Leti since they made Montero's job almost impossible. With so bad economic crisis in Spain, people like Montero in the press wants his/her exclusive to maintain the good living even if it means lies with eyes wide open.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 06, 2013, 05:29:02 pm
When I say subtle is very subtle. When they talked about the trip to Miami they mentioned she was with her bodyguards and another unknown man, of course he could be anyone but why mention him at all or his very blue eyes? It was totally unnecessary.


Leti denied she went to Miami at an award ceremony for outstanding women last year. It's probably another lie,  if those stupid tabloid journalist knew a little bit of American culture,  the clinics for the plastic surgeries were close during the Thanksgiving weekends. Maybe she and Felipe did have some issues, Felipe is pretty much useless, all these years had done nothing to protect her and her family, he is (wants to be) a perfect son, perfect brother, perfect husband, perfect father, you know it's not possible, at the end, he is nothing.  I doubt William would let the press haunt down a heavily pregnant sister-in-law in the street without a word.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 06, 2013, 05:40:46 pm
Agree to disagree  :flower: Henar may not be closed to her niece but I don't have anything to believe she is not close to her mother and brother. If not all of them wouldn't have been investigated for the same possible offence. At least Jaime has been known to talk recently to the press.

Montero has been threatened by the palace not only the Asturias, it makes you think why he would start saying lies when the cost can be much higher than his profit.

The article in La Otra Crónica a couple of weeks ago wasn't much different from what Montero said but they made it look more positive but they said that they now lived more independent lives because Leti needed her space  :looky:

On off topic that the palace can threaten the journos in that way makes me sick.



Leti denied she went to Miami at an award ceremony for outstanding women last year. It's probably another lie,  if those stupid tabloid journalist knew a little bit of American culture,  the clinics for the plastic surgeries were close during the Thanksgiving weekends. Maybe she and Felipe did have some issues, Felipe is pretty much useless, all these years had done nothing to protect her and her family, he is (wants to be) a perfect son, perfect brother, perfect husband, perfect father, you know it's not possible, at the end, he is nothing.  I doubt William would let the press haunt down a heavily pregnant sister-in-law in the street without a word.

LOL I'm not going to believe what she says when she also denied plastic surgery when it's obvious to a five year old. Leti in five more years will look like Corinna. What was she going to say? Yep I went to Miami  :tehe: Not every report said she went exactly to Miami and neither all said that she was going to get plastic surgery.

Felipe has always been lazy and very egocentric. Sorry with my LOL-ing but Felipe perfect son?  :laugh: For a start he would have never made his relationship with Eva public and neither would he have married Leti because neither his mother or father were ok with the marriage.

In a sense Leti family got what they deserve in terms of public scrutiny, when you let the press in your life is difficult to stop them. That is the reason why I like her maternal family, I don't know them and that is a perfectly fine with me. While her father and Telma talked to the press since day one. Of course the press would go after them afterwards.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on March 06, 2013, 05:44:06 pm


The plastic surgery which she denies and the possible anorexia troubles me. I don't feel Leti is ok mentally and I think she is not getting help. I'm sorry I can't help you there Mon Roi, it's a bit of the chicken and egg, what went first? Did she started because the marriage was difficult or the opposite?
In the Morton book someone who knew her as a teenager says she was always very careful with her diet.

 :thankyou: Alexandrine.
Too bad about that dieting of hers and botox injections. She's a very natural pretty woman with lovely skin.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: benign on March 06, 2013, 05:55:49 pm
wait so Leti is rumored to be having an affair? oh no, so much going on with SRF...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 06, 2013, 05:56:48 pm
Why would Leti's grandma or father want to talk to Henar about Leti's private life when Henar had been talking to the press ? Henar could have been lying too, she already lost everything with Leti when she tried to sell the private pictures.
Leti said she only had a nose surgery. I believe her since that's the only surgery she did. Botox or fillers (if she uses any) is not considered a surgery. Felipe and Leti don't have to join hips, they already worked together a lot unlike most couples, if either did a couple of private weekend trips with friends, went out with friends to meals or parties once a while,  it's perfect normal, it doesn't mean there is a crisis.
Jesus and Telma only gave a short interview right after the engagement, afterward both (the whole family except for her aunt) have been very discreet. Telma didn't deserve to be chased down the street by the paparazzis when she was heavily pregnant, nobody does, not even Pippa,  it was very dangerous.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 06, 2013, 05:58:22 pm
wait so Leti is rumored to be having an affair? oh no, so much going on with SRF...

There was no such rumor. But as long as she was seen with a man, she was having an affair with him according to some on the internet. Do you believe it ?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 06, 2013, 06:14:41 pm
There are lot of rumours about the SRF, depends on what journos you follow and believe they are the best marriage ever and others consider that they are having a couple of very bad years.

A couple of years ago no one would have believed that the mistress of JC lived in nearly the same place as the rest of the royal family although there were rumours and now it's been confirmed. Or that he had dated a famous celebrity for a long time and that she was being paid by the state so she wouldn't talk. Same with the difficult relationship between Elena and Marichalar and they ended up divorcing.

Are Felipe and Letizia being unfaithful? I don't know for sure but the journos are giving some signals that would tend my opinion to the positive. It's not that she was seen with a man but that in a programme where she is usually very well treated start giving details of her trip with the unknown man who was very handsome and with very blue eyes makes me think. That she also took her wedding ring for no reason saying that is because she doesn't like jewels... then I don't understand why she looked like a Christmas tree in every night gala until recently.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: benign on March 06, 2013, 07:14:26 pm
wait so Leti is rumored to be having an affair? oh no, so much going on with SRF...
There was no such rumor. But as long as she was seen with a man, she was having an affair with him according to some on the internet. Do you believe it ?
maybe since SRF seems to be getting in a lot of trouble lately...and if its true that Leti is, then whatever works for both as long as they can handle the scandal...


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Spice on March 06, 2013, 08:56:02 pm
That she also took her wedding ring for no reason saying that is because she doesn't like jewels... then I don't understand why she looked like a Christmas tree in every night gala until recently.

 :laugh:   :worship:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on March 06, 2013, 11:49:56 pm
That she also took her wedding ring for no reason saying that is because she doesn't like jewels... then I don't understand why she looked like a Christmas tree in every night gala until recently.
She took her wedding ring off because inaki gave it to filipe has a weding gifth, but he paid with noos money!
When she knew about it, she took it off... because she knew that it came from stolen money!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 07, 2013, 12:07:37 am
There is a wedding ring and a engagement ring, what you are talking about is the second one. The gold wedding ring wasn't paid by Iñaki.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: benign on March 07, 2013, 12:15:57 am
^so are you saying Leti hasnt been wearing her wedding ring for sometime? bit weird considering she has worn it for the past 8 yrs and all of sudden not....Is Felipe still wearing his though?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 07, 2013, 12:30:30 am
Yes, he does but sometimes he takes it off like http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/prince-felipe-and-princess-letizia-visit-king-juan-carlos-news-photo/163008866.

When there was the scandal about the engagement ring being a present from Iñaki she took both rings out. I can understand about the engagement ring but the other? She was questioned about it and said that she doesn't like jewellery.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on March 07, 2013, 12:37:10 am
I don't think that take the ring off is a problem IF and only IF they stay faithfull to their husband/wife... Always....


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 07, 2013, 12:40:13 am
Me either but it's not one thing, you start summing up and at least it makes me think. Others will disagree of course.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 07, 2013, 08:35:21 am
Letizia denied she went to Miami, let alone with a handsome man. There were plenty of garbage in tabloids of Spain. With the modern technology, it's not hard to get a picture of her in Miami (lots of Spanish speaking people who know Letizia), in the airports, in the plane (I just saw a picture of MM on the plane to New York last week).


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Snokitty on March 07, 2013, 11:36:52 pm
http://www.newmyroyals.com/2013/03/prince-felipe-and-princess-letizia.html

In one photo it appears Letizia has a hickey.   :laundry:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 08, 2013, 05:22:49 pm
Leti as a super vip enters the plane the last one and is in first class, when they arrive she's the one who leaves the plane first. Then there are the bodyguards who protect her from photos.

It's obvious that she wasn't going to say that she made a trip. It's like Corinna saying that she only has a cozy relationship with the king and nothing else. Or the goverment saying that Corinna didn't have a diplomatic role when there are photos or that she didn't live in El Pardo which has been now confirmed.

Plus it wasn't a new from a tabloid but from Ana Rosa who loves Letizia and the RF.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 08, 2013, 08:28:57 pm
Why does Felipe have ot protect Letizia?

CRIPES!

The woman is thirty, a woman of the world, and she is someone who is no stranger to the more 'worldly' side of life.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 08, 2013, 08:48:33 pm
She is forty.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 09, 2013, 01:42:04 am
Leti said explicitly that 'it was a lie' (about her traveling to Miami). Ana Rosa might like Leti, but she was not the one talking about Leti, it was other journalists in her program talking about Leti, why should she stop them since it probably helped the rating of her show.
MM also traveled in the 1st class (or at least business class) like Leti, has bodyguards too, it didn't stop others taking pictures of her or mentioning her NY trip in twitter, none of this had happened to Leti's so called Miami trip.
It's palace's job to stop rumors or lies on royals.  Leti rarely talked about her personal things in public, she talked about the lies of her Miami trip or her plastic surgeries at the Women's awards last year, obviously it bothered her a lot. Leti probably doesn't have much voice in Zarzuela, but Felipe certainly has more. At the time of Elena's divorce, Zarzuela had told the press to leave her kids alone since they stationed outside their school, they could have done the same to Erika and her daughter when they were being harassed everyday by the paparazzi outside the girl's school, Telma was chased down the street while heavily pregnant, but Zarzuela didn't bother since they only cared about their own blood.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 09, 2013, 06:02:16 pm
Of course she said it was a lie because it was doing anything about her image. Does that mean that the info was not correct? Nope. As a famous journo says gossip is a buffet and you choose what to believe. There are many supposed dates of Felipe and Leti around Madrid that journos say are true but there are no photos. Do you have to believe those? Nope but some do.

Felipe went around Madrid with his children in Christmas and although some people mentioned it in twitter I didn't see any photos either. 

The question about the photos is interesting because if you think about it there are nearly no photos of the RF during their private lives. We know that both Elena and Sofia travel constantly to London for different reasons but I've never heard of someone posting their photos in twitter. The only time when I've seen that happening was when F&L took a low cost plane. Maybe Iberia has a better private policy than other companies. Then the RF is known to stop people in public places to take photos.

I don't know why are we discussing about Letizia's family here  ??? But there are many articles explaining that Letizia talked to journos to stop them following Telma.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 09, 2013, 07:21:22 pm
I don't know if Felipe went around with his children on Dec 29th or 30th (not Christmas) was true or not, but I do think twitter is a bit more reliable than those tabloid tale tellers. Is is any twitter message of seeing Leti in Miami or airports (I think not) ? Sure gossip is a buffet, if you want to believe the worst, chose the worst one to post, it's your choice, I only mentioned there were other stories out there that countered those no-evidence rumors.
I was replying Kuei Fei about why Felipe (or Zarzuela) should protect Leti (or her family) ? Only recently there were news of Leti talking to journalists to leave some breathing room to Telma, good for her since she can't rely on Zarzuela or anyone else.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 11, 2013, 05:20:41 am
She is forty.

All the more reason she should have it together.

I'm getting REALLY tired of princes (and sometimes men in general) taking up with tarts, being SO protective of them, when the women in question should be more than able to take care of themselves. I mean, Charles pushed his wife to 'get on with it,' but was so caring and protective of Camilla. Felipe/Haakon/William marry 'women of the world' (to put it mildly) and are SO chivalrous about their constant failures to do their job right and dress right, but can't do enough for them.

Meanwhile women who have it together might want a little love and affection and chivalry, but they are expected to just get on with it. Young kids are expected to 'get on with it' and the elderly are supposed to 'get on with it' and meanwhile, those who are leeching, get all the perks and the kindness. Kate/Mette/Leti get all the kindness and titles and perks and chivalry, at ages when they are supposed to be able to look after themselves.

Letizia is forty and has been CP for what, a decade now? She should be at a point in time when this comes easy to her.

I hope Felipe is happy, being Daddy to a fully grown adult who should be taking good care of herself. She's someone who is not a child bride like Diana was. Felipe has two daughters and he apparently married a woman who insists on being the center of his world and insists on being frail and damaged.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 11, 2013, 07:40:32 am
Kuei Fei, I have no idea why you were comparing Leti to Kate or MM, both have been extremely protected by their RF. If Leti works as little as Kate, or is irresponsible or lazy as MM, the SRF or the Spanish press would have thrown her out already.
I think leti has gradually learned to protect herself and her family, it's not easy in Spain, you have to be powerful at first.  About Felipe, he better hides himself behind his wife.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Byechoc on March 16, 2013, 10:49:09 pm
Kuei Fei, I have no idea why you were comparing Leti to Kate or MM, both have been extremely protected by their RF. If Leti works as little as Kate, or is irresponsible or lazy as MM, the SRF or the Spanish press would have thrown her out already.
I think leti has gradually learned to protect herself and her family, it's not easy in Spain, you have to be powerful at first.  About Felipe, he better hides himself behind his wife.
:worship: :worship: Well Letizia is a hard worker! Unlike Kate and Mette Marit!
Spanish press can be terrible! And Letizia for many years had cruel atacks!

Well said!


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on March 18, 2013, 07:53:07 pm
That absoluteldy not true, the spanish press is no better or worse than in other countries. It is also not true that the media offers a negative view of Leti in general.

Important newspapars in Spain: Abc (monarchist), La Razón (right - monarchist), El Pais (left - pro Leti) and El Mundo (right but ambiguous about Leti and the rest of the SRF).

Mags: Hello (obvious, no?) Lecturas (very pro Leti) Semana (maybe 90% in favour) Pronto (this one is the only who is more scandalous about her but it's also the less glam)

TV: TVE (state tv always positive view on SRF), Antena 3 (kinda right - positive), T5 (Berlusconni channel - ambiguous*)

We can count with the two hands which journos speak against Leti in any of the previous mentioned media channels. Only in Vanitatis which can only be read in internet you can read negative opinions on Leti continuously. That's not to say that the others never say something against Leti but they are the exception and not the norm.

I know I forgot about a couple but it doesn't change the fact that they are all pro Leti and/or pro SRF. If there another media who has another view please tell, I will add it to my reads.

The spanish press could have gone to the jugular with Leti but they didn't. Leti has never suffered what Eva Sannum did, they treated her with kid gloves.  ???

* T5 is a very strange channel to define but at this time is the only one who has gossip programmes. Peñafiel is in one of them but the host is always scolding him for saying bad things about Leti. However, they are the ones who started the thing about the photos of her first wedding and her second cousin has gone a couple of times to talk about her.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on March 20, 2013, 05:49:32 pm
If the programs really didn't like what Jaime Penafiel said, why did they bother to invite him to the shows ? At least in other countries they don't have anyone like Jaime Penafiel or Paloma Barrientos or a lowly/tacky tabloid TV show like Salvame.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 24, 2013, 10:39:25 pm
Felipe was seen with Eva Sannum (for those who don't know he wanted to marry her but she was a lingerie model and it was a no go) during the last Christmas in the Alps

the article

http://www.elsingulardigital.cat/cat/notices/2013/04/vidal_el_princep_felip_i_eva_sannum_es_van_trobar_fa_quatre_mesos_93854.php


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 24, 2013, 11:11:20 pm
Didn't the Spanish royals spent Christmas in Madrid, Felipe was seen with his daughters walking in the street a couple of days after Christmas ? Talking is free, show some proofs if there were lots of people in the restaurant they dined ? A picture from a camera phone ? LOL
I wouldn't take too seriously the gossips out of Catalan republicans or nationalists. Leti's trashy cousin's book didn't damage the monarchy much, they are trying a different story.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 24, 2013, 11:23:06 pm
Yeah no photos either from the outing in Madrid and it's easier to make photos in the street than in a restaurant where bodyguards can check that you don't make them  :akasha:

And he only says four months ago and as christmas is three weeks he could have gone in another time.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 24, 2013, 11:32:21 pm
Yeah no photos either from the outing in Madrid and it's easier to make photos in the street than in a restaurant where bodyguards can check that you don't make them  :akasha:

It's rather easy to pretend talking, then take a picture in a sit down crowded restaurant. Switzerland isn't Spain, how could bodyguards stop 'foreigners' playing their phones ?


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 24, 2013, 11:39:52 pm
Yeah as if you find yourself intimidated by a bodyguard who is checking no one makes photographs and you don't follow his orders. Plus it's not as if they were in a MacDonald's, in a posh restaurant you don't expect people doing photos.

But if it is so easy why no photos of Felipe in the Christmas fair with the children?  :akasha:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 24, 2013, 11:49:39 pm
Yeah as if you find yourself intimidated by a bodyguard who is checking no one makes photographs and you don't follow his orders. Plus it's not as if they were in a MacDonald's, in a posh restaurant you don't expect people doing photos.

But if it is so easy why no photos of Felipe in the Christmas fair with the children?  :akasha:

How could bodyguards walking around, checking at people at a posh restaurant in a foreign country ? When Felipe was out of country, he had 4 bodyguards at most, unlike in Spain, he can have a team, nobody can get close to him.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: Alexandrine on April 25, 2013, 12:02:38 am
I find much more difficult to believe that he went to a chistmas fair with his children and no one made a photo than that no one made a photo in a posh restaurant of Eva and him.  :bored:

Plus a lot of people have seen them in other places and other spanish journos have mentioned this.  :cookie: But yeah the problem are the catalan nationalists, oh but also those trashy spanish journos  :cookie:


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 25, 2013, 12:16:41 am
I find much more difficult to believe that he went to a chistmas fair with his children and no one made a photo than that no one made a photo in a posh restaurant of Eva and him.  :bored:

Plus a lot of people have seen them in other places and other spanish journos have mentioned this.  :cookie: But yeah the problem are the catalan nationalists, oh but also those trashy spanish journos  :cookie:

How do you know those rumors in Spain were not from the same source, or if not, from some internet weirdos ? If Felipe had been all over the world with Eva, I don't believe all those years there was not one single picture appeared.


Title: Re: Is Felipe Cheating?
Post by: partygirl on April 25, 2013, 12:32:13 am
Didn't you mention Felipe walking with his daughters in the Christmas fair in order to support the rumor that Leti left them behind in Spain, now you have a better rumor to believe that actually Felipe was in Switzerland, Leti was in somewhere else already, then where were Leonor and Sofia ? LOL.


Title: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Nighthawk on August 23, 2013, 05:44:43 am
Princess Letizia Runs Away From Mallorca, Spain And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir To The Crown?
http://www.latintimes.com/articles/7636/20130821/princess-letizia-runs-away-mallorca-spain-husband.htm#.Uhbn2T_D-V5
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Princess Letizia of Spain is facing an alleged crisis in her marriage with the heir to the crown, Felipe de Borbon. Letizia left the traditional summer destination of Mallorca, leaving behind the royal family of her husband, and Princesses Leonor and Sofia. From the island of Mallorca, Letizia returned to Madrid, where she then took a flight to the Swiss city of Zurich.
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Letizia has been shirking many of her royal responsibilities, including holidays on Mallorca. This summer she has only spent 5 days on the island, staying on the island is part of her duties as heiress to the crown. Following her public responsibilities, the royal family normally enjoys private holidays with her husband and their daughters, paid for entirely by the Spaniard people.

It is still unclear if Prince Felipe, who returned to Madrid after his wife, will complete his royal duties this summer or simply meet Letizia in a remote location. Currently, the heir to the throne is in Paraguay to mark the inauguration of the new president, Horacio Cartes. The couple has seemed increasingly more distant in recent months.

Maybe they just needed some time away from each other?


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 23, 2013, 07:18:15 am
Why would she need time away from her husband? It's her JOB to be there two steps behind; sexist, but c'mon, that is the way it goes!

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Letizia left the traditional summer destination of Mallorca, leaving behind the royal family of her husband, and Princesses Leonor and Sofia. From the island of Mallorca, Letizia returned to Madrid, where she then took a flight to the Swiss city of Zurich.

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has been shirking many of her royal responsibilities, including holidays on Mallorca. This summer she has only spent 5 days on the island, staying on the island is part of her duties as heiress to the crown.

Here are images of Mallorca: http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=chr-greentree_ff&va=mallorca

Her 'job' means she stays there for a while and go figure, she can't stick around? I don't think she has a lot of gratitude; she has a to die for husband, adorable daughters, and her duty is to spend time on a tropical paradise to ensure that goodwill relations remain. What on earth can be so vital to her that she has to up and leave for Switzerland?


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 23, 2013, 02:42:31 pm
Well, I am sorry but this is too far-fetched for my taste.
There is nothing that says she should stay on Mallorca for the entire duration of the vacation. For all we know she is just gone for a few days, spending time with her sister, her mother or a friend. I have many friends who also use their vacation to unwind a bit from their difficult and demanding 'job' as mother. No matter how many nannies you might have, children can be very tiresome at times and in order to fully recharge her battery after a very difficult year for the entire Spanish RF, she and her husband perhaps decided that it would be a good idea for her to spend some time with her parents, just as he is spending time with his parents at Mallorca at the moment.

Fact is that these newspapers need to make up these stories, because trouble in a marriage will sell more newspapers than a marriage where everything is all peachy-perfect.
Whenever I see pictures of the couple together, the prince seems rather attentive towards his wife and she to him. I saw some images online at the opera when they were boo-ed by some people present and she looked so hurt and also a bit worried to the prince, as feeling deeply sorry for him. I'll try to find the images.
To me the images showed a couple who is going through a hard time, not because of their marriage but because the problems Spain is facing and the problems Inaki has caused for the family.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Nighthawk on August 24, 2013, 03:39:27 am
Princess Letizia, Prince Felipe Marriage Problems: 5 Things To Know About Royal Couple Of Spain
http://www.latintimes.com/articles/7709/20130823/princess-letizia-prince-felipe-marriage-problems-rumors.htm#.UhgcXz_D-V5


hoping these 2 can work it out


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 24, 2013, 05:18:33 am
Anyone can project marital happiness in a marriage, in public. Look at how the Clintons behaved.

The problems in the RF are not her problems, they are the problems of Cristina and Inaki; she has her own family and her own life with Felipe.

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surmounting amount of pressure, to relieve this, she has reportedly asked Felipe to give her some private space,
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seeking out a remote area, far away from the pressure of Royal life and Spain,

What pressure?

Her job is supposed to support Felipe and compared to the BRF, I would say her position as Crown Princess is not as pressure filled. In fact, the position of crown princess is a skate job compared to what most do on a daily basis. First Ladies have high pressure positions because of the support their husbands need who actually run a country.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 24, 2013, 09:21:54 am
Just wondering. Say that the CFO at the company where you work has embazzled money and that he was found out and now the IRS (or an equivalent) and the police and customs etc are all looking into the company where you work with a possibility that the illegal actions of the CFO will lead to the bankruptcy of the company and you losing your job.
Would you be stressed?

Because this is what is happening in Spain. Massive unemployment, over 50% of the adolescents are unemployed. And if that isn't enough, the brother-in-law of Félipe has frauded the government out of several million euro's. This is investigated and as a result the popularity of the SRF is diminishing almost by the hour. And it could mean that the monarchy falls...it wouldn't be the first time in the last century in Spain.

Of course Letizia is worried. For her husband who has worked very hard and is one of the best prepared heirs to the throne in Europe, but also for the future of her daughters.
If she wasn't worried and didn't feel some stress because of what is happening in the family she married into, I would have problems with her, because that would tell me she feels detached from her in-laws. The fact that she worries for them and with them, puts her in a favourable light.

And I say this as someone who, like you, would much rather have seen the European Crown Princes marry nice women of noble or royal background but unfortunately that ship has sailed.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 24, 2013, 10:58:36 am
I'll be honest and be frank; since the marriage Letizia has been in need of endless private time and having problems dealing with the pressures related to being crown princess, long before this recent scandal. So what gives? I mean really, she is supposed to be a source of strength and seems unable to handle the cut.

As for marrying an aristocrat, few such women are lily-livered wimps, look at all Diana went through and kept going. Meanwhile Letizia can't handle having a handsome faithful husband who has fought for her at every turn, two daughters (like Diana never had a chance to have) and her only job is to be a gracious hostess.

As for press coverage, it isn't as bad for her as it has been for royal brides in the past. She also had a career and life of her own.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Snokitty on August 24, 2013, 12:22:31 pm
When it comes to what the royals call work Letizia does a lot of it. She has audiences at the Palaces with and without Felipe. She does more engagements than the two Mistresses of the BRF.

I see no reason why she must spend her entire holiday glued to Felipe's side.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Mon Roi Henry IX on August 24, 2013, 03:43:12 pm
I do more engagements than KM.

 :bouncy:


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Alexandrine on August 24, 2013, 04:45:15 pm
Every year the holidays in Mallorca create problems one way or another.

However, this year is interesting because the press are focusing on Letizia's quick disappearance and how she is still not adapted to what people expect of the RF.

Letizia only stayed for five days and went back to Madrid without her children. Felipe went to Mallorca before Letizia and children did and stayed back with the children.

Semana which is a gossip mag but in the serious range put this week Letizia in the cover saying "what is happening to Letizia?".

BTW the article mentions that the little infantas stayed because the king wanted Leonor to meet the prime minister and other politicians to educate her for her future role as a queen. However, Leti decided that she had other pressing things to do and left.

The press talks about a marriage crisis but they are focusing more on how Letizia doesn't understand her role and what is expected of her which is way worse.

For ex how she hasn't grown her role in comparison to her husband and how she is doing less and less events on her own.

Mallorca is a hot topic this year because it is where the trial of Iñaki is happening and a politicians wanted to take back Marivent (residence in Mallorca) from the RF . It was the perfect year to show what a happy family they were and again it was a PR fail.



Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 25, 2013, 02:19:42 am
She should be used to conforming since that was her career after all; conforming to the public and her employer's expectations of her. Career women are very much so adaptable to the expectations of conformity and expectations of roles. She has no business running out on her kids either, frankly.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Snokitty on August 25, 2013, 12:36:49 pm
I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

Letizia and Felipe made their plans and if I were Letizia I would not want to spend my entire holiday with a family that never wanted me around. She gets some needed alone time and the children enjoy some time with Grandparents.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 25, 2013, 08:58:12 pm
The last 2-3 years the couple only spend 2 weeks on Mallorca before heading off on a family-vacation (one Italy and last year Greece IIRC) with just the Infanta's.
A very healthy situation in my opinion. People try to read too much into things and especially some people in the Spanish press seem to be hoping to catch Letizia on a faux-pas. The same people who are still fuming that the prince didn't marry a nice Archduchess.
Just imagine that you have to function all year long in the knowledge that some people are just waiting for you to make a mistake/ faux-pas and will eat you alive if you do.
Not many people would be able to cope with that.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Alexandrine on August 25, 2013, 09:18:34 pm
When you get married into one of this families you enter knowing that you will have to accept certain things. This is the same as is expected with the BRF to expend Christmas and even the summer holidays in Balmoral.

Maybe not staying in Mallorca but spending time in another part of Spain would work. Though this solution could only suit if they gave back Marivent to the gov to be used for other functions. 

Or even if in the five days Letizia spent in Mallorca she had a happy behaviour the press wouldn't try to find fault in her.

How the journos speak about her is because they seem to be at the end of their tether.

Is spending the summer holidays in Mallorca the best holidays ever? Maybe not. But it is a tradition with the SRF. They never spent the whole holidays there: king went with mistresses around the mediterranean, queen visited greece/UK... but their behaviour while in Mallorca was ok and the press got what they wanted so all parties were happy. This "contract" has been broken by Letizia and Felipe.

That she had been spending a lot of time in music festivals that would be more suitable for a twenty year old than a woman in her forties with a family doesn't help to promote the idea that all is happy in her marriage.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: partygirl on August 26, 2013, 01:25:31 am
How did she spend lots of time at the music festival when she only went to one concert ? She went to another concert with Felipe, but it was not the music festival. Haakon and MM had a music festival for their birthday, nobody in Norway called them doing things only 20s would do.  Leti did a photo session, went to the official dinner, many pictures of her very smiling, what's so bad about her attitude ?
I'm pretty sure Leti would return the residence to the government without blinking her eyes. JC and Sofia are the ones who keep the residence, the press should tell J&S to return the residence, not Letizia if they think JC and Sofia alone are not significant enough.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 26, 2013, 01:36:37 am
I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

AS Crown Princess of Spain, yes it is her job to be 'tied' to her husband and children; she isn't any other woman.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Countess of Holland on August 26, 2013, 05:52:28 am
Then it is also the job of the man to be tied to his wife is it not? So why not blast Prince Felipe for his separate weekends away from his family (with or without an alledged mistress).

As for the press, they had it out for Letizia from day one. I was in Spain at the moment of their engagement and although my Spanish was and remains rusty, I could understand the zest of the articles and the newsitems. The overall opinion after the presentation was that Letizia had been very rude to interupt Felipe (who was answering a question that was posed to Letizia in the first place). And from that moment on she couldn't do anything right.

While as far as I know (and I admit that I am not a weekly follower of the couple, so perhaps I missed a few things), she hasn't put a foot wrong since. Perhaps not all people agree with her sense of style and perhaps she is sometimes under-dressed, but in these Spanish economic times I think it is better to be underdressed as a royal than overdressed.
But unlike Kate, she hasn't taken her top off, she has never showed her behind while standing on a tarmac, she has done more functions, also in her first couple of years, she worked almost right up until the birth of Leonor and Sofia, she hasn't been running to her parents (or either one of them), her family is pretty much in the shadow (except for that one sad moment when her sister committed suicide and that awful cousin who was trying to make a buck using his cousin with an allegded tell-all book) and unlike Kate, Letizia hasn't been hanging around Felipe for years waiting for a ring. She was her own person, with her own career prior to meeting Felipe. And as a result she is a more mature woman than Kate. A woman who realises that in order to have a good marriage, it is healthy to spend some time apart as well.

Because Felipe may be heir to the throne, he and Letizia are first and foremost a married couple who have to make their marriage work, for themselves and for their two daughters. And making a marriage work is hard enough even without the press hounding you at all occasions.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: Snokitty on August 26, 2013, 11:40:04 am
I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

AS Crown Princess of Spain, yes it is her job to be 'tied' to her husband and children; she isn't any other woman.

It is not a requirement for any woman no matter who she marries to be tied to her husband. It would be extremely bad for a marriage if the partners were tied together and not allowed to have any interests of their own. They would bore each other to death and the marriage would be miserable.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: serene grace on August 26, 2013, 01:20:39 pm
When you get married into one of this families you enter knowing that you will have to accept certain things. This is the same as is expected with the BRF to expend Christmas and even the summer holidays in Balmoral.

Maybe not staying in Mallorca but spending time in another part of Spain would work. Though this solution could only suit if they gave back Marivent to the gov to be used for other functions. 

Or even if in the five days Letizia spent in Mallorca she had a happy behaviour the press wouldn't try to find fault in her.

How the journos speak about her is because they seem to be at the end of their tether.

Is spending the summer holidays in Mallorca the best holidays ever? Maybe not. But it is a tradition with the SRF. They never spent the whole holidays there: king went with mistresses around the mediterranean, queen visited greece/UK... but their behaviour while in Mallorca was ok and the press got what they wanted so all parties were happy. This "contract" has been broken by Letizia and Felipe.

That she had been spending a lot of time in music festivals that would be more suitable for a twenty year old than a woman in her forties with a family doesn't help to promote the idea that all is happy in her marriage.

There has been rumours floating in various press for the past two or three years that Letizia was having trouble with Royal life. It's been rumoured that during the past two years she's been out partying with girlfriends around Spain quite more than usual. Not the normal girlfriends do lunch, but nighttime private parties , but her image is protected.

I think there must be something to this current news.


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on August 26, 2013, 04:18:00 pm
Wonderful idea for a thread!

You guys think that she might end up actually breaking away, leaving Felipe via divorce?

No one thought Diana would and I don't think she's someone who will be able to continue as a royal wife if she isn't coping with the pressures and doing her part as princess. She's human, but the thing is, that Felipe fought long and hard for her to become his wife and she should appreciate it and end up doing things like staying on a gorgeous tropical island and enjoy the comforts of a lavish lifestyle, drop dead gorgeous husband, and of course, the status as future Queen Consort of Spain.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: partygirl on August 26, 2013, 05:14:56 pm

There has been rumours floating in various press for the past two or three years that Letizia was having trouble with Royal life. It's been rumoured that during the past two years she's been out partying with girlfriends around Spain quite more than usual. Not the normal girlfriends do lunch, but nighttime private parties , but her image is protected.

I think there must be something to this current news.


The Spanish media tends to exaggerate things, if she went out once, they would make it up as if she went 10 times. The whole July, we only heard her going to one concert at a music festival, the media sounds like she was at the festival every single night. All her girlfriends are career women with a full time job, married or with kids, it's impossible they had so much time for her.


Title: Re: Princess Letizia And Her Husband Felipe: Marital Trouble For The Heir ?
Post by: partygirl on August 26, 2013, 05:24:39 pm
I wonder when it was declared that a woman must have her husband tied to her constantly on one side and the other side she should have her children tied to her.

Letizia and Felipe made their plans and if I were Letizia I would not want to spend my entire holiday with a family that never wanted me around. She gets some needed alone time and the children enjoy some time with Grandparents.

I fail to see this as a Letizia is so bad because she is acting as human as every other woman.

I completely agree with you. Letizia works with her husband more often than any other princess consorts, she lives a few blocks away from her in-laws, works at Zarzuela with them. It's normal that she prefers not to spending many days of summer holidays again with her in-laws. This time, it was her husband who decided to stay a couple of more days with his parents, why should she get blamed for her husband's sudden change of decision ?


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: serene grace on August 26, 2013, 09:38:16 pm
 Please remember don't Double Post.

 :thankyou:


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: D.I.R. on September 03, 2013, 05:08:35 am
This marriage is nothing more than a turd stain & Felipe looks like a dip... he should of just married a porn star since he's into those type of females.


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on September 03, 2013, 06:38:28 am
was it so hard for Felipe to find someone without baggage? Someone he wouldn't have to fight for or campaign for?


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: partygirl on September 04, 2013, 12:40:37 am
For Felipe, his wife is his least problem compared to his corrupt and cheating Daddy, the same greedy and corrupt sister Cristina and brother-in-law.


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: D.I.R. on September 04, 2013, 05:16:03 am
You really believe that Felipe & Leti are innocent & they are not involved in it, really now...?
Felipe is part of the family business what makes you think that he's not involved?
Who said that these 2 are faithful to each other?
My butt they are, these 2 are not faithful like Juan.


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: Ceridwen on November 11, 2013, 07:54:24 pm
was it so hard for Felipe to find someone without baggage? Someone he wouldn't have to fight for or campaign for?

I'm sure it's not - women probably fell down on his lap like flies or dung beetles!  I think (like all the royal men of his elk), they're just plain lazy and don't feel the need to court a lady because, let's face it, these women are easy.  Prince Charles with his current cow, Prince William with Waity Katiey (though they're married, she's still hasn't change), Prince Carl and his porn star, Prince Freddi and his gold digger, I could go on and on.  :-  The point though is that these men probably thought that it's a novelty to date (and thought themselves in-love at one point) these type of women, only to wake up and realized their mistakes   :laundry: but too late, they've been nailed to the wall and for some, divorce is out of the question!!!   :king:


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: serene grace on November 11, 2013, 10:03:59 pm
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/10436247/Son-in-law-of-King-of-Spains-crude-emails-about-his-in-laws.html


Son-in-law of King of Spain's crude emails about his in-laws

Iñaki Urdangarin, the disgraced Duke of Palma, caught sending series of insulting emails about his in-laws - who happen to be the Spanish Royal Family

The disgraced son-in-law of King Juan Carlos of Spain has brought further embarrassment to the Spanish Royal Family with the publication of a series of crude and sexist private emails in which he ridicules his in-laws.
 

Iñaki Urdangarin, who was given the title of Duke of Palma when he married the King's youngest daughter Princess Cristina in 1997, is currently being investigated for using his royal connections to embezzle public funds, a scandal that has damaged the reputation of the Spanish monarchy.
 

Emails from his computers seized as part of the ongoing investigation were leaked to Spanish daily newspaper El Mundo. While they may show he has a sense of humour, it will do nothing to heal the rift between him and the other Royals.
 

In two emails sent by the duke to his wife he lampoons the future Queen of Spain, just days after Crown Prince Felipe announced his engagement to Letizia Ortiz, a former television journalist.
 

One includes a pun about Prince Felipe have sexual intercourse with Letizia and the other shows screen shots of prominent female newsreaders at the time, including Letizia, and is titled "orgasms".



Pr. Felipe's brother in law, Inaki, caught sending crude emails about his in-laws , one about Pr.Felipe having sex with Letizia and other sexual things about Letizia.  :-


Title: Re: Felipe & Letizia's Marriage Thread
Post by: Ceridwen on November 11, 2013, 10:08:29 pm
I heard about that plus her addiction with plastic surgery http://voxxi.com/2013/04/25/top-royal-family-scandals-letizia-kate/